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From YouTube: June 1, 2015 City Planning Commission
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Minneapolis City Planning Commission
A
A
Item
of
business
is
to
organize
the
agenda,
we'll
determine
which
items
will
be
continued,
which
will
be
placed
on
the
consent
agenda
and
which
items
will
be
discussed.
So
I
will
go
through
the
agenda
item
number
one
is
1513
through
1519
franklin,
avenue,
east
and
2008
bloomington
avenue
south.
That's
a
rezoning
application.
Is
there
anyone
here
who
would
like
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
modify
the
staff
recommendation
on?
That
item
see
no
one
will
place
that
on
consent
items
number
two
and
three
we
will
take
together.
A
They
are
3238
washington,
avenue,
north
and
3240
washington
avenue
north.
That
is
a
rezoning
application.
We
will
discuss
those
items.
Item
number
four
is
34
14
25th
street
east.
That
is
also
a
rezoning
application
and
the
petitioner
has
requested
that
that
item
is
continued
to
the
june
15th
meeting.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
on
that
item?
Okay,
that
that
item
will
be
continued
to
june
15th
two
weeks
from
today,
item
number
five
is
western
line
on
second
at
24,
24,
15,
24,
19
and
24
23
2nd
street
northeast
is
there.
A
Anyone
here
would
like
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
modify
the
staff
recommendation
on
that
item.
That
is
several
applications
for
a
subbing
unit,
housing
development.
Seeing
no
one.
We
will
put
item
number
five
on
the
consent
agenda
item
number:
six
is
3535-3543
grand
avenue
south
several
applications
related
to
a
new
multi-family
development.
We.
C
A
Discuss
item
number
six
item:
number:
seven:
is
urban
works
architecture
at
617,
lowry,
avenue
north
3110
and
31
16,
lindale
avenue,
north
and
3113
and
3117
63
north
several
applications
for
a
new
multi-family
development.
We'll
discuss
item
number
seven
and
then
item
number
eight
is
a
zoning
code
text
amendment?
A
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
modify
the
staff
recommendation
on
that
item?
Seeing
no
one.
We
will
place
item
number
eight
on
the
consent
agenda,
so
our
modified
agenda
is
as
follows.
We'll
continue
item
number
four
to
the
june
15th
meeting.
Our
consent
agenda
will
consist
of
items
number
one
five
and
eight
and
we
will
discuss
items
numbers
two.
Three,
six
and
seven
may
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
as
amended.
E
A
Is
there
a
second
in
favor
all
right
and
that
motion
carries
next
we'll
move
on
to
the
public
hearing
portion
of
our
meeting
and
first
I'll
open
the
public
hearing
on
the
items
on
the
consent
agenda?
That's
items
one
five
and
eight
on
our
agenda.
Is
there
anyone
who
would
like
to
speak
on
items?
One
five
and
eight
see
no
one?
I
will
one
five
and
eight
that
that
is
1513
through
1519
franklin,
avenue,
east
2008,
bloomington
avenue,
south
item.
A
F
A
G
A
G
G
The
subject
property
is
just
east
of
interstate
94
and
the
structure
is
a
two-story,
but
due
to
topography
appears
to
be
a
three-story
from
the
rear.
Due
to
the
walk-out
basement.
There
is
an
18-foot
grade.
Change
on
this
parcel
and
current
uses
include
office,
space
envelop
or
envelope
packing
and
printing
production
use
and
general
retail
sales
and
services.
G
The
3200
block
of
washington
and
second
is
composed
of
an
array
of
uses,
including
a
cultural
entertainment
use
in
the
middle
of
the
block.
There
are
two
single-family
residences
to
the
north
of
the
block.
An
industrial
use,
I
believe,
a
fabrication
site
as
well
as
a
fast
food
restaurant
to
the
south.
G
G
G
G
G
It
reads:
the
small
sites
located
between
2nd
street
north
and
washington
avenue
north
present
somewhat
of
a
challenge
for
redevelopment,
as
many
are
small
steeply
sloped
and
narrow.
These
may
be
suitable
for
small
scale
office
and
light
industrial
uses.
There
are
already
there,
as
there
already
are
a
number
of
residential
uses
in
this
section.
It
may
be
appropriate
for
live
work
type
arrangements,
and
this
is
on
page
94..
G
G
G
G
Fifth,
whether
there's
been
a
change
in
character
or
trend
and
development
in
the
general
area
in
the
property
in
question,
the
desire
to
transition
the
area
to
a
non-residential
use
is
evident
through
the
change
in
the
small
area
plan,
changing
that
from
urban
neighborhood
to
mixed
use.
However,
there's
not
been
a
ton
of
change
in
this
area.
G
H
I
A
A
G
Right
the
applicant
did
note
that
the
proposal
was
to
allow
for
the
existing
general
retail
sales
and
service,
but
also
said
that
he
was
interested
in
possibly
adding
the
industrial
living
to
allow
for
the
conditional
use
to
allow
residential
live
work
in
this
property.
There's
been
no
application
for
that
at
this
time,
but
he
did
mention
that.
A
A
C
K
It's.
I
think
it
behooves
us
to
discuss
what
the
property
is.
It
was
built
originally
in
the
60s
as
a
kind
of
an
office
production
warehouse
area.
The
upstairs
that
faces
washington
avenue
is
approximately
1500
square
feet
and
it's
got
a
stairway.
That's
actually
outside
of
that
area.
That
goes
down
into
the
lower
level,
which
has
another
7
000
square
feet.
K
It
also
includes
an
office
area
down
there
and
what
we
call
production
area.
Part
of
that
area
is
used
for
storage,
part
of
it's
for
a
mailing
house
that
uses
it.
When
I
bought
the
property
I
leased
it.
I
was
using
part
of
the
backspace
for
my
printing
company
and
I
leased
the
other
space
to
a
company
called
absolute
mail.
At
that
time
they
took
the
office
space
upstairs
and
the
production
space
downstairs,
or
actually
we
we
shared
the
production
space
downstairs
after
about
a
year.
They
said
you
know
this.
K
K
K
K
K
I'll
read
it
exactly
support
the
redevelopment
of
this
area
with
high
density,
mixed-use
development,
including
commercial
light,
industrial,
residential
and
or
office
uses.
I
feel
like
that's
exactly
what
we're
doing.
We
are
it's
exactly
what
we're
doing,
and
the
only
real
objection
I
seem
to
hear
was
that
we're
not
grouping
it
with
other.
K
You
know
assembly,
I
guess
it's
called
assembling
it.
These
are
kind
of
new
terms
for
me
in
terms
of
this,
and
that's
really
from
what
I've
heard.
Everything
from
what
andrew
said
was
the
fact
that
I'm
not
the
the
only
objection
they
have.
Is
that
we're
not
assembling
it
or
maybe
that's
a
better
use.
Well,
what
we're
asking
for
does
not
prohibit
that
assembly
in
the
future,
but
I
don't
have
the
financial
means
to
go
and
buy
out
all
my
neighbors
and
do
that.
K
That's
just
not
in
my
my
wheelhouse,
that's
not
something
I
can
do
so
in
the
future.
If
someone
wants
to
assemble
all
this,
I
would
be
open
to
that.
What
we're
asking
for
is
ability
to
go
forward
and
be
able
to
use
commercial
commercial
uses
for
this
property,
and
when
I
look
at
some
of
the
points
here,
it
talks
about
whether
that's
in
the
public
interest
or
not,
and
for
some
reason
it.
K
You
know
it
was
deemed
not
to
be,
but
I
don't
see
how
an
industrial
use
is
going
to
be
more
in
the
public
interest
than
a
hair,
stylist
or
a
barber
that
would
actually
let
people
in
the
immediate
neighborhood
have
a
service
to
use.
How
does
an
industrial
use
in
1500
square
feet?
Number
one?
You
don't
get
industrial
uses.
I
don't
think
in
that
smallest
space,
the
mailing
company,
that
moved
out
is
still
down
in
the
lower
level.
K
They've
been
there
for
15
years,
so
I'm
I've
got
this
1500
square
feet
that
I'm
that's
sitting
all
alone
that
we
would
like
to
use
for
again
for
commercial
use.
The
trends
in
the
area-
I
think
you
know,
we've
shown
it-
you
know
burger
king
went
in
a
number
of
years
ago.
You
know
my
that
upper
space
of
mine
has
gone
from.
You
know,
offices
for
industrial
to
commercial
uses.
I
think
the
trends
show
that
that
is
what
is
coming
in
that
area
and
not
not
away
from
it.
K
K
K
Okay,
okay
and
I
mean
because
it's
right
across
the
the
you
know,
you
just
take
lowry
and
go
up
to
lindale
and
take
a
right.
It's
like
a
block
away,
so
yeah
I've
been
there.
I
like
that,
I
called
I
left
messages
I
emailed
and
just
zero
response.
I
don't
know
if
they're
still
in
business
and
I've
been
doing
that
for
a
month,
so
I'm
not
sure
what
else
to
do
you
know.
I
don't
have
the
time
to
sit
there
all
day
and
see
if
someone
shows
up
so.
K
You
know
so
I
mean
I
thought
this
was
the
perfect
answer.
I
thought
that's
kind
of
what
this
was
for
was
would
allow
the
the
commercial
use
and
the
industrial
use.
I
mean
I
don't
wanna.
I
think
the
industrial
use
is
important
in
the
space
that
it's
in
it
provides
jobs
for
local
residents
but
yeah,
but
they
don't
use
the
upstairs
space
at
all
and
there's
no
plan
to
so
I
want
to
be
able
to
put
commercial
in
into
that
space.
K
If
I
go,
if
I
transfer
the
whole
thing
to
commercial,
then
you
know,
then
I'm
in
conflict
with
the
the
industrial
part
of
it,
so
it's
kind
of
a
unique
property.
I
guess
in
that
way
it's
it's
like
a
walk-out
basement.
I
mean
we're
built
into
the
side.
You
know,
probably
a
million
years
ago.
The
river
was
that
high
or
something
you
know,
but
it's
built
into
that
slope.
K
A
Questions
of
the
applicant:
if
there
are
none
we
can
move
on
to
the
next
speaker,
is
there
anyone
else
who
would
like
to
speak
on
this
item?
The
rezoning
3238
washington
avenue
north,
seeing
no
one.
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
on
this
item.
Commissioners.
Are
there
any
further
questions,
or
would
someone
like
to
start
us
off
with
commissioner.
L
G
L
G
F
F
L
F
A
G
G
G
The
applicant
is
seeking
the
iolod
to
legally
establish
the
general
retail
sales
and
service
existing
on
site
and
staff
has
not
received
any
comment
from
mckinley
neighborhood
as
a
part
of
the
rezoning.
There
are
five
findings
that
must
be
addressed:
the
first
finding
whether
the
amendment
is
consistent
with
applicable
policy
of
the
comprehensive
plan
and
again,
the
comprehensive
plan
and
small
area
plan
provide
mixed
guidance
for
this
area.
G
G
G
Rezoning,
a
single
parcel
or
two
to
eilod
would
not
be
covering
a
an
assembly
of
parcels,
but
rather
just
a
couple,
the
second
finding,
whether
the
amendment
is
in
the
public's
interest
or
the
interest
of
the
property
owner
again
staff
finds
that
being
a
single
parcel.
It's
not
in
the
public
interest.
It
is
in
the
sole
interest
of
the
property
owner.
A
O
That's
the
number
one
thing
is
I
still
here
because
of
the
weather
in
here
we
have
a
four
season,
it's
beautiful
and
then
for
the
viewpoint
of
the
asian
people
who
came
in
here
as
a
refugee-
and
I
see
this.
This
is
the
opportunity
for
me
to
develop
in
a
nation
that
is
pretty
good
for
for
me
and
for
my
children
and
for
further
generation
of
my
family,
and
I
do
in
nineteen
1905.
O
A
N
C
P
Merge
those
two
things
so
we
can
create
a
you
know,
a
better
program,
a
better
place
for
people
to
be
able
to
utilize.
This
get
tax
money
based
from
and
just
have
an
overall
better
city.
So
we
started
prior
to
receiving
our
denial
for
today's
agenda
meeting
or
suggested
denial
by
trying
to
reach
out
to
a
number
of
different
places.
P
P
P
Essentially
what
we
thought
was
a
pretty
normal
question:
we'd
like
to
get
a
better
understanding
of
your
vision
of
the
community,
but
that
wasn't
allowed
so
we
couldn't
understand
or
put
together
a
better
way
or
proposal
to
be
able
to
help.
You
understand
the
vision
that
we
have
for
a
building,
that's
not
owned
by
us,
we're
renters.
We
can
leave
there
and
move
somewhere
else
and
open
up
shop
somewhere
else,
but
my
wife
certainly
has
a
great
relationship.
P
P
N
P
Residents
are
looking
for
amenity-rich
communities
with
a
number
of
destinations,
I.e,
shops,
cafes
parks,
etc.
So
in
an
industrial
zone,
it's
kind
of
difficult
to
imagine
those
things
occurring
so
again.
I
think
that
the
idlod
seems
to
kind
of
merge
very
well
with
the
analysis
that
was
done
now,
I'm
sure,
there's
somewhere
in
there,
where
you
could
find
some
other
page.
We
found
this
page
here.
There
were
some
other
areas
within
there
there
were
pages
in
the
90s
and
so
forth.
That
seemed
to
kind
of
direct
you
in
the
same
direction.
P
The
idea
of
in
order
to
bring
people
you
need
to
bring
small
businesses
and
people
that
are
selling
things
and
offering
different
services
so
that
people
want
to
be
there
and
can
utilize
those
areas.
I
myself
had
a
house
on
minnehaha
parkway
on
the
other
side
of
the
city,
which
I
loved
loved
that
house
and
some
of
the
reasons
that
I
loved
that
one
was
because
I
could
walk
out
my
front
door
and
I
could
go
down
to
my
favorite
mexican
restaurant
and
and
walk
it
was
nice.
P
It
was
nice
to
be
able
to
walk
around
and
do
that
kind
of
thing.
I
think
that
you
know
if
we're
going
to
industrialize
this
and
we
see
our
future
being
bringing
in
more
salesy
types
things,
coffee
shops,
so
forth.
Boy
something's
got
to
change,
and
I
think
that
this
is
a
good
change
from
that
standpoint.
So
I
believe
that
it's
applicable
with
the
policies
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
In
addition
and.
P
Whether
the
amendment
is
in
the
public's
interest
and
not
solely
for
the
interest
of
the
single
proprietary
owner,
I
think
we
could
have
some
conflict
and
discussion
around
that
because
I
think
the
owner
of
the
building
probably
feels
maybe
differently
about
that.
I
don't
know
I
don't
own
that
particular
building.
P
But
quite
honestly,
this
thing
is
essentially
stating
that
hey
look.
You
know
if
there
were
more
parcels
being
turned
over.
It
might
make
some
sense
for
us
to
consider
that.
Well,
look
at
the
three
different
lots
that
we're
considering
here.
There's
the
30
30
32
40.
There's
the
32
38
right
next
door.
Both
of
those
are
asking
for
the
side
transfer
the
next
one
over.
P
What
I
believe
you
described
is
the
cultural
place
or
the
church
of
the
angels,
or,
I
believe,
they're
also
called
the
aka
hells
angels
are
right
next
door
to
that,
I'm
not
sure
how
many
or
how
popular
that
might
be
of
a
place
for
everybody
to
want
to
go.
I
think
they're,
some
of
the
best
neighbors
that
you
could
possibly
ever
imagine
some
of
the
nicest
guys
I've
ever
met,
but
you.
C
P
I
don't
think
that
they're
going
to
be
interested
in
making
any
changes,
but
guess
what
the
two
buildings
right
next
to
it
are,
and
you
know
what
sometimes
it
takes
one
or
two
to
start
the
process.
Then,
once
one
or
two
of
those
does
that
more
comes
in,
so
I
think
that
we
have
to
be
a
little
more
optimistic
around
that
and
that
we
have
to
look
to
the
future
and
say
I
think,
based
on
these,
two
groups
want
to
do
this.
P
It
notes
here
that
there
are
no
other
industrial
overlays
in
this
particular
area.
Now
the
picture
that
we're
looking
at
is,
I
believe,
within
350
feet
of
the
building
ish
okay,
so
you
were
able
to
find
on
that
document
where
the
other
island
was
or
is
that
just
another
couple
buildings
down
locked
down?
Okay,
it's
two
blocks
down.
I
could
almost
throw
a
rock
at
the
building
from
the
front
of
my
the
rental
property
that
we
currently
have.
P
So
I'm
not
quite
sure
what
you
mean
by
immediate
area,
because
I
can't
think
of
much
more
immediate
than
that.
The
approval
by
the
way
on
that
was
not
done
in
numerous
parcels.
It
was
a
single
parcel
that
you
approved.
However,
now
and
if
you
read
through
it,
I
actually
provided
you
also
with
a
copy
of
the
actual
approval
of
that
particular
property.
As
well
as
pictures,
you
notice,
the
pictures
look
almost
the
exact
same
as
3240
property.
P
The
other
thing
that
you're
going
to
notice
is
the
fact
that
there
was
no
issue
with
it
being
a
single
pro
pro
parcel
and
approved,
which
begs
the
question:
why
now
does
it
have
to
be
multiple
parcels
instead
of
a
single
parcel,
because
to
me
that
doesn't
make
sense?
Why
did
you
do
it
one
way
for
one
and
now
it
seems
like
it's
changed
as
far
as
the
way
that
you're
doing
it.
Now,
when,
realistically,
I
don't
think
anything's
changed.
P
Number
four:
whether
these
are
reasonable
uses
of
the
property
in
question
reasonable
uses.
We
want
to
make
sure
we
have
reasonable
use.
It's
downstairs
currently
it's
being
used
as
light
industrial
they're,
making
great
cords
and
things
like
that
for
businesses
and
that's
fantastic.
It's
exactly
what
you
want
it
for
upstairs,
and
certainly
for
the
past.
P
Almost
eight
years
my
wife's
been
working
there
she's
been
working
her
tail
off
since
coming
from
china
on
the
third
page
in
I've,
actually
provided
you
with
a
biography
of
what
she
does,
and
I
thought
I'd
share
that
with
you,
her
company's
name
is
bodega.
Lotus
provides
a
wide
range
of
services
to
clients
in
the
following
areas.
She
does
video
and
photo
editing,
helps
with
distribution
and
then
does
therapeutic
massage
in
the
following
mortalities.
P
P
She
got
her
citizenship
and
everything
on
her
own
she's,
a
hard
worker
jen
ling
was
a
student
at
center
point,
enter
energy
or
center
point
energy
center
point,
massage
and
shiatsu
therapy
school
and
clinic
she
specialized
there
in
swedish,
deep
tissue
and
siachu
massage
prior
to
her.
Coming
to
the
united
states,
my
wife
yin
ling
boho
was
an
english
teacher
in
china,
equivalent
to
age
fifth
grade
through
seventh
grade.
P
Her
income
in
general
is
derived
in
three
different
ways
photo
and
editing
make
up
approximately
50
of
what
she
does,
which
I
believe
is
actually
legal
in
the
current
situation
she's
in,
but
then
she
also
has
been
doing
more
and
more
massage
and
distribution
makes
up
about
20.
So
that
gives
you
kind
of
a
better
feel
for
is
this
a
good
use
for
this
particular
property?
It's
1500
square
feet.
P
P
A
D
I
just
have
a
real
quick
comment.
First
off,
I
appreciate
the
packet
of
information.
It's
it's
very
thorough
and
I
almost
wish
I
would
have
seen
it
for
the
previous
application,
but
in
hindsight
you
know,
I
think
the
unfortunate
part
here
that
that
we
have
to
consider
is
the
fact
that
3442
was
rezoned
eilad
in
2013..
D
I
personally
think
it's
the
wrong
approach
to
individually
rezone
and
I
think,
based
on
the
conversation
that
we've
had
more
so
on
the
on
the
previous
application,
is
that
this
is
going
to
take
a
more
holistic
approach
to
rezoning,
especially
in
that
part
of
the
city
and
as
jason
as
mr
wittenberg
mentioned.
It's
something
that's
on
the
work
plan
moving
forward,
and
so
I'm
going
to
make
a
recommendation,
or
or
subsequently
I'm
going
to
vote
to
deny
this
application
as
well,
because
I
think
that
we
need
to
take
a
more.
D
F
But
in
january,
on
january
22nd
of
2013,
when
that
rezoning
was
in
front
of
you,
the
guidance
in
place
at
that
time
was
urban
neighborhood,
which
made
it
more
clear
than
the
current
policy
that
transitioning
to
residential
was
the
was
the
goal
there.
So
in
june
of
that
same
year,
later
after
that,
rezoning
is
when
the
smaller
plan
revision
was
adopted
by
the
city
by
the
city
council.
A
N
A
L
Mean
I
just
wanted
to
also
echo
my
colleagues
comments
but
say
that
in
looking
at
the
the
previous
island,
the
only
other
island
in
the
20
block
stretch
of
i2
that
they
have
it
appears
as
though
it
doesn't
really
precedent
setting,
because
it's
it's
a
different
situation.
It
was
industrial
use
where
the
artist
wanted
to
live
there,
which
is
the
point
of
the
industrial
living
overlay,
and
so
I
could
see
where,
especially
given
that
the
guidance
wasn't
in
place
because
it
preceded
it
by
six
months,
based
on
the
above
the
falls
plan.
L
L
A
All
right
and
that
motion
carries
so
our
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
at
35
35
through
35
43
grand
avenue
south
miss
sether
is
staff,
and
we
saw
this
item
at
committee
of
the
whole
a
number
of
weeks
ago.
So
maybe
shannon
you
could
focus
on
the
outstanding
issues
which
appear
to
be
the
parking
lot
setbacks
for
the
most
part.
Okay,.
B
Thank
you
very
much
and
I
apologize
for
the
voice.
So
if
you
need
me
to
repeat
anything
just
let
me
know
the
subject.
Properties
include
3535,
3539,
3543,
grand
avenue
south
as
you'll
see
on
page
one
of
the
staff
report,
there's
a
list
of
applications
sought
by
the
lander
group,
the
applicant
for
the
project
to
build
a
three-story,
multiple
family
structure.
B
We
have
the
proposed
structure
here
and
there
would
be
18
parking
stalls,
a
combination
of
standard
compact
and
a
handicap
accessible
stall,
and
then
the
public
alley
is
here
at
the
rear
included
in
your
packet.
Today
is
a
proposal
by
staff,
which
would
include
the
denial
of
two
of
the
requested
variances
to
reduce
the
interior
side
yard
setback
along
the
north
property
line
and
along
the
south
property
line.
B
Why
that's
important
is
that
would
further
reduce
the
requested
parking
variants
so,
as
proposed.
The
project
requires
22
off
street
parking
spaces
so
for
a
24
unit
building
they
were
able
to
take
advantage
of
the
existing
transit
incentive
which
reduces
their
austria
parking
requirement
by
two
spaces.
B
B
There
is
some
known
to
be
pooling
of
water
in
the
alley,
and
I
know
that
we
have
a
few
neighbors
here
who
are
have
already
weighed
in
on
that
fact.
I
believe,
have
additional
information
they
like
to
provide
and
then,
lastly,
with
providing
these
greater
interior
side
yard
setbacks
up
to
the
five
feet.
We'll
have
a
little
bit
more
of
a
landscape
yard
to
provide
the
on-site
deciduous
tree,
which
is
the
last
item
for
alternative
compliance
that
the
applicant
is
seeking.
A
I
A
D
D
D
We
took
a
good
look
at
what
was
proposed
in
terms
of
site
plan
modifications,
and
we
still
believe
that
what
we're
proposing
with
the
18
stalls
is
the
is
the
right
plan,
part
of
looking
at
the
original
parking
reductions
and
where
we're
at
with
the
18
is.
We
believe
the
18
is
the
right
number
for
this
project,
and-
and
that
is
where
we
want
to
stay.
D
The
color
version
of
this
same
site
plan
on
the
back
portion
of
the
site.
What
we're
really
trying
to
do
is
minimize
kind
of
the
sea
of
parking
approach
and,
although
they're
pulled
further
to
the
side,
lot
actually
for
the
first
40
feet,
it's
a
one
foot
setback.
I
believe
and
we're
at
45
feet
to
this
corner,
actually
45
feet,
9
inches
or
about
5
foot
9
inches
over
on
this
corner,
which
is
the
reason
for
the
variance
the
same
on
this
corner
over
here
and
so
for
the
first
40
feet.
D
It
can
be
within
one
one
foot.
I
believe,
and
staff
can
certainly
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
part
of
the
reason
to
pull
these
two
parking.
Lots
apart
is
to
provide
the
landscaping
actually
on
the
inside
of
the
site
to
get
the
overhead
tree
canopy
over
the
top
of
the
parking.
Also
to
make
it
look
like
two
individual
parking
lots,
we're
also
trying
to
get
structure
along
the
back
alley.
So
we
do
have
the
fences
coming
back.
D
We
do
have
the
trash
and
we
do
have
a
bike
enclosure
the
trash
located
where
it
is
provides,
direct
access,
and
it's
enough
width
that
people
can
actually
walk
between
the
cars
as
opposed
to
a
three
feet,
coming
back
out
to
the
alley
around
and
dump
the
trash
off
on
the
two
adjacent
sides
in
question.
On
one
side
on
the
north
side
it
is
an
existing
garage,
so
we
do
have
a
fence
up
to
that
point.
D
We
do
have
landscaping
and
on
the
south
side
it
is
a
surface
parking
lot
as
it
is
so
with
we
believe,
the
the
dimension,
whether
it's
two
feet
or
five
feet.
If
you've
got
a
screen
in
front
of
it
and
you're
on
the
other
side,
you
can't
really
you
don't
really
have
that
impact,
especially
given,
since
it's
a
it's
a
garage
on
one
side
and
parking
on
the
other.
So
we
believe
this
is
a
better
plan
and
better
for
the
site
and
better
for
the
users
of
the
building
that
are
here.
D
I
do
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
parking,
I'm
sorry
the
water,
since
I
know
that's
going
to
come
up
shortly.
We
understand
from
the
neighbors
that
there
is
some
water
issues
in
the
neighborhood,
not
just
this
site,
but
those
water
issues
are
bigger
than
our
site.
As
we
understand
we
have,
we
will
certainly
follow
recommendations
that
are
brought
forth
by
the
city
and
through
the
pdr
we
will
follow
those
recommendations,
but
as
far
as
solving
a
bigger
problem,
we're
going
to
have
people
live
there.
D
We
want
to
be
part
of
the
answer,
but
we're
not
the
only
answer
so
we've
reached
out
to
the
neighborhood
group
and
are
trying
to
set
up
a
meeting
to
actually
talk
about
the
best
solution
for
that,
and
we
don't
necessarily
know
the
best
solution,
because
we
don't
necessarily
understand
the
depths
of
the
problem
outside
of
our
project.
So
we
will
handle
what
is
on
our
project,
certainly,
but
then
anything
bigger
and
beyond
that.
D
We're
want
to
work
with
the
neighborhood
group,
as
kind
of
the
liaison
through
the
council,
member
and
through
public
works
to
kind
of
get
get
the
right
answer
and
we'll
be
there
arm-in-arm
to
try
to
figure
out
the
best
solution.
Finally,
on
the
siding
we
are
proposing,
actually
that
that
would
be
the
5
8
inch,
the
thicker
cement
board,
siding
on
that
location
as
opposed
to
the
thinner
one.
So
with
that,
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Commissioner.
H
C
D
Potentially
that
there
could
be
some
trees,
I
mean
it
is
a
very
tight
zone,
whether
that's
two
feet
or
five
feet,
and
then
there's
root
structures
and
adjacent
garages.
Certainly
on
the
north
side,
that
might
become
a
little
bit
problematic,
but
we're
suggesting
adding
a
tree
kind
of
along
that
edge.
Yeah.
H
H
D
H
D
A
M
Commissioner
gisselmann,
I
just
had
a
question
regarding
the
stormwater.
I
I
think
that
we're
going
to
hear
some
comments
about
existing
zixing
problems
in
the
alley
right
now,
with
with
standing
water
after
after
heavy
rains,
and
I'm
just
curious.
I
we've
seen
our
report
that
the
the
area
is
vacant
right
now,
but
what?
What
exactly
is
it
right
now?
What
is
the
surface
right
now?
What
is
there.
D
D
Bearing
point
of
view,
there's
probably
been
four
other
projects
proposed
on
this
site
over
the
last
number
of
years,
all
incredibly
expensive
because
of
the
type
of
soils
and
the
reason
I
say
that
in
terms
of
stormwater
is
that
infiltration
through
those
soils
is
actually
somewhat
problematic
as
well.
Is
that
there's
enough
density
in
that
soil
that
it's
not
like
a
sand
where
the
water
can
we
can
do
rain
gardens?
We
can
do
those
types
of
things
and
the
water
will
infiltrate.
D
Our
understanding
also
is
that
the
problem
is
actually
bigger
than
that
and
that
there's
some
trough
in
the
alley
that
is
actually
creating
some
of
those
problems
so
other
than
accepting
more
water
onto
the
site
into
soil.
That
actually
doesn't
percolate.
I
think
the
answer
is
a
bigger
solution
for
the
neighborhood
of
which
we.
D
M
Can
just
follow
up
real,
quick,
and
maybe
this
is
part
of
the
bigger
solution,
but
have
you
and
is
there
any
been
any
discussion
about
having
a
cistern
or
any
any
type
of
you
know
if
the
soil
is
not
good
for
it?
Is
there
any?
Is
there
any
room
for
putting
any
water
storage
on
the
site,
perhaps
to
be
to
be
reused
as
part
of
the
development.
D
D
A
cistern
idea
would
be,
I
think,
is
one
possible
solution.
There
is
also
a
pipe
solution.
I
don't
think
we
would
rule
that
out.
I
think
our
concern
is
we
from
the
pdr
perspective
would
answer
one
set
of
questions
in
terms
of
this
site.
We
actually
don't
know
what
the
issue
is
from
a
larger,
bigger
perspective
in
terms
of
how
big
is
that
cistern
and
how
much
is
being
taken
and
who
pays
for
that.
L
L
D
No,
I
think
what
we're
saying
is
we
want
to
be
part
of
those
discussions.
We
understand
that
that
is
an
issue
we're
on
the
site.
We
have
residents
here
with
cars
here
and
we
want
to
solve
a
problem,
a
problem.
We
just
don't
know
what
the
extent
of
that
problem
is
in
terms
of
its
magnitude,
and
we
also
don't
feel
like
it's
a
hundred
percent,
our
problem.
So
if
we
were
to
look
at
our
site
and
only
our
site
we'd
come
up
with
one
solution,
but
there
seems
to
be
a
bigger
one.
So
we.
N
D
To
go
as
a
neighborhood
as
residents
within
the
neighborhood
with
the
neighborhood
organization
and
then
go
to
public
works
and
talk
about
what
possible
solutions
may
be,
and
if
we
can
help
facilitate
that
great.
But
it's
also
there's
a
cost
to
all
of
those,
and
you
know
if
it's
on
our
site
and
we're
contributing
to
that
portion
of
what
is
ours.
That
is
one
thing,
but
to
then
solve
it,
for
the
entire
neighborhood
is
a
cost
that
this
cannot
bear.
L
D
B
That's
great
right:
they
actually
haven't
defined
a
long-term
solution,
but
they
know
one
is
necessary.
Anything
in
pdr
that
we
talked
with
jeremy
stralow
from
public
works,
surface
waters
and
sewers
and
said
that
it's
not
currently
on
the
capital
improvement
plan,
but
they
are
aware
that
during
major
storm
events,
there
is
some
flooding
there
and
will
continue
if
the
project
is
approved
to
work
through
the
next
stage
of
pdr,
preliminary
development
review
to
ensure
that
the
site
doesn't
contribute
in
such
a
negative
way,
but
that
process
is
yet
to
come.
D
D
C
N
C
N
Afternoon
my
name
is
carol
maguire
I
live
at
35,
36,
pleasant
and
my
property
is
the
property
across
the
alley
from
the
project,
and
I
must
apologize
because
I
wear
hearing
aids
on
your
auditory
system
here.
In
my
hearing
aids,
I'm
not
doing
well
and
consequently
I
missed
much
of
what
staff
said
and
and
the
land
of
representative
water
is
a
real
problem
attached
to
your
packets.
N
We've
got
the
cart
before
the
horse.
Here,
let's
resolve
the
structural
issue
before
we
get
to
the
fine
points,
and
if
maybe
this
isn't
a
buildable
property,
I'm
sure
the
owner
doesn't
want
to
hear
that,
but
it
I
mean.
Maybe
the
soils
are
so
bad
that
it
should
not
be
built
upon.
I
don't
know
that
and
I
think
this
commission
needs
more
information
before
it
can
make
an
intelligent
decision.
N
I've
heard
that
a
fix
to
this
might
be
a
catchment
basin
and
that
yes,
there's
a
lot
of
cost
to
that,
and
indeed
I
agree
with
the
representative
of
the
lander
group
that
there's
much
more
contributing
to
the
the
standing
water
than
simply
this
project,
because
you've
got
an
alley
here
which,
over
the
years,
all
of
the
multiple
dwellings
have
paved
from
the
alley
up
to
the
building
and
so
you've
got
a
tremendous
water
flow
off
of
the
existing
parking
areas
behind
the
other.
Two
minutes
is
up:
okay,.
A
A
A
R
Good
afternoon
members
of
the
city,
council
and
planning
commission,
my
name
is
patrick
kegley.
I
live
in
lindeau
now,
I'm
quite
near
the
area
of
35th
and
grand
I'd
first
like
to
bring
to
your
attention
that
there
was
a
vote
at
lindell,
neighborhood
association,
and
that
vote
was
to
deny
and
not
support
the
variances.
The
six
variances
that
is
the
neighborhood,
did
not
approve
of
this
building
proposal.
R
R
R
R
To
conclude
these
remarks,
many
residents
and
myself
in
neighborhood,
neighbor,
lindelow,
neighborhood
and
gravdanville,
insist
that
you
make
the
responsible
decision
in
denying
leonard's
group
these
six
variances
that
they
are
asking
for
the
building.
It
does
not
suit
the
needs
of
the
neighborhood
and
many
gathered,
and
also
in
that
in
that
area
stand
opposed
to
this
proposal.
Q
I
live
on
30,
I'm
I'm
so
nervous,
so
I
should
definitely
get
through
the
two
minutes,
because
I
go
really
fast
when
I'm
nervous,
but
I
live
on
3527
pleasant
avenue,
it's
one
block
over
from
the
grand
avenue
site
and
I
I'm
against
the
building
of
this
building,
because
it'll
add
increased
parking
strain
to
the
neighborhood
on
our
pleasant
avenue
block.
We
lose
on
one
side
of
the
block
about
25
percent
of
the
blocks
parking
because
it's
a
handicap
space
on
the
grand
avenue
side
in
front
of
where
they're
having
the
building.
Q
We
lose
again
about
one
third
of
the
block,
because
it's
a
bus
stop
not
to
mention
that
35th
street
is
a
snow
emergency.
36,
35th
and
36th
street
are
both
snow
emergency
streets
along
with
grand
avenue
which
are
snow
emergency
streets,
which
has
tremendous
parking
problems
in
the
winter.
My
other
reason,
as
a
mother
of
people
on
mother
kids
in
the
neighborhood,
we
have
what's
called
the
lindell
walking
bus
in
our
neighborhood,
and
it
starts
out
on
37th
and
pillsbury
at
about
8
o'clock.
Q
In
the
morning,
we
have
50
60
kids,
walking
down
the
street,
trying
to
cross
trying
to
cross
36th
street
to
get
and
then
cross
35th
street
again
to
get
up
to
lindell
school
at
34th.
It
takes
sometimes
when
my
daughter
and
son
who
use
the
they
go
to
minneapolis
public
schools
and
take
the
city
bus.
They
have
to
wait
sometimes
five
to
ten
minutes
just
to
get
across
36th
street
to
get
down
to
a
bus.
Q
It's
nothing
on
weekends,
for
traffic
to
be
backed
all
the
way
from
35w
over
to
glendale
avenue
and
people
sitting
on
harriet
avenue,
grand
avenue,
lindell
avenue,
pillsbury
can't
get
out
of
their
block
because
the
traffic
is
so
backed
up
and
then
they're
gonna
put
this
stuff
on
the
corners.
My
son
was
hit
one
time
by
a
car
that
was
trying
to
avoid
a
light
at
grand
avenue,
because
that's
another
thing
that
happens
is
the
traffic
light
at
grand
avenue.
People
see
it
and
don't
want
to
sit
in
traffic.
Q
C
I
I
I
L
L
L
I
Style,
real,
quick,
okay,
I'll
try
because
there's
a
lot-
and
it's
limited
on
time
here,
but
okay,
yeah,
okay,
we'll
go
down
the
list:
affordability,
housing,
which
you
know,
there's
lots
of
reasonings
behind
each
reason
too,
so
parking
green
space
is
another
one.
I
feel
that
there
needs
to
be
more
green
space.
I
In
that
you
know
we
have
a
lot
of
development
coming
up
and
there's
not
a
lot
of
affordable
development,
and
you
know
we
we're
we're,
advocating
that
it
would
be
nice
to
have
a
community
garden
or
maybe
a
pocket
park,
something
like
that
in
the
community
right
there.
It's
been
vacant
lot
for
40
years
I
mean,
and
the
community's
done
quite
well.
Actually
so.
I
I
I
know
it's
a
temporary
problem,
but
it's
we
we're
not
very
keen
on
on
that
as
well,
and
then
effective
small
businesses,
although
it's
gonna,
be
harmful
to
the
small
businesses
c1
district,
which
is
the
smallest
commercial
district
that
you
guys
have.
Zoning
for
being
supporting
middle
class
is
what
we're
feel
strong
on
small
businesses.
I
Do
the
not
in
keeping
with
the
area
points
that
we've
mentioned
will
also
affect
the
small
businesses,
because
it's
going
to
put
a
strain
again
on
the
parking
for
the
customers,
as
well
as
the
the
type
of
store
that
it
is
the
one
of
the
businesses.
It's
it's
a
metaphysical
holistic
store,
that's
very
kind
of
in
keeping
with
kind
of
when
people
come
into
the
store,
they're
looking
for
a
just
a
a
vibe
that
they
get
like
a
kind
of
a
relaxed,
peaceful
energy
when
they
come
to
the
store.
L
I
I
That's
five
or
five
bulleted
points,
there's
yeah
the
water.
I
mentioned
that's
about
five
or
six
bulleted
points.
There's
also,
you
know,
I
think
it's
invasive
to
the
house
and
the
north
side.
They
have
a
single
family.
There
they're
set
back
at
20,
20
22
25
feet.
You
know,
I
don't
think
they
wanted
a
huge
structure
right
next
door
with
kids
playing
around.
You
know
and
it's
it's
not
really
synonymous
with
a
small
single
family
home.
I
The
other
large
buildings
around
are
you
know,
11
units
10
units.
You
know
less
than
half
the
size
that
those
are
the
larger
the
buildings
that
are
nearby
the
others.
You
have
duplexes
houses
and
fourplexes
so
again,
not
not
in
keeping
with
the
environment
of
the
neighborhood.
So
environmental
reasons
I
feel,
are
another
reason.
That's
kind
of
related
to
the
green
space
traffic
is
blocked
during
construction.
That
could
create
a
hazard.
I
Q
E
I
think
what
tran
was
trying
to
articulate
about
customers
coming
to
to
present
moment
is
like
if,
if
that
block
is
now
known
as
like
tight
packed
parking
kind
of
like
uptown
is
when
you
try
to
go
to
uptown
you
you're,
like
am
I
up
for
that,
trying
to
search,
you
know,
drive
around
in
circles
for
a
while
for
a
parking
spot.
Maybe
not
you
know,
and
I
think.
L
E
What
we're
looking
at
is,
I
think
that
we're
probably
looking
at
a
permitted
parking
parking
situation
very
soon
and
I
think
that's
why
we
had
so
many
signatures
when
that
other
petition
came
up-
and
I
I
guess
we
didn't
have
time
to
do
another
petition,
but
right
now
in
the
summertime,
there's
just
barely
enough
parking.
There
is
enough
parking.
For
instance,
let's
say
I
come
home
at
10
o'clock
at
night.
There
might
not
be
a
spot
for
me
on
grand,
that's
where
I
would
normally
go
into
my
front
door.
E
B
E
Going
to
stretch
it
I
mean
that's,
not
even
counting
guess
but,
like
you
know,
let's
say:
half
of
those
people
have
two
cars:
that's
12,
12
people
plus
the
17
spots
that
you
didn't
allow,
for.
You
know
everybody
having
worn
a
car,
okay,
the
other
thing
that
I
really
agree
with
carol
and
what
she
said
about.
E
A
M
There's
a
paragraph
that
talks
about
staff
suggesting
recommending
that
the
plan,
the
planning
commission
grant
alternative
compliance
to
requiring
a
seven
foot
landscape
yard
essentially,
but
instead
requiring
a
five-foot
landscape
yard
along
the
alley
and
along
the
side
yards
next
to
the
parking
lot.
Is
that
correct.
B
M
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
my
other
question
was
for,
for
you,
jason,
and
that
was
just
regarding
and
obviously
regarding
this
water
water
problem.
I
mean
I,
I
hesitate
to
think
that
it
is
a
problem
that
this
applicant
should
bear
all
by
themselves.
Because
again
I
mean
we
certainly
have
information
before
us.
M
That
suggests
that
there
is
a
large
cooling
of
water,
but
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
information
that
tells
us
where
exactly
it's
coming
from,
I
guess
what
I
am
curious
about
is
in
our
process
of
approval
today
or
conditions
that
we
may
approve
moving
forward.
What
what
kind
of
language
can
we
use
to?
Really,
I
guess,
bind
the
applicant
into
working
with
public
works
and
the
neighborhood
and
finding
you
know
whatever
that
long-term
solution
is.
F
Commissioners
and
commissioner
gisellen
certainly
first
and
foremost,
you'll
want
to
take
a
look
at
whether
any
of
the
applications
in
front
of
you
and
the
findings
that
you're
required
to
make
are
applicable
to
that
issue.
Specifically.
But
beyond
that,
certainly
you
have
the
ability,
through
site
plan,
review,
to
require
that
the
applicant
continue
to
work
with
public
works
toward
a
solution.
H
H
Comment
you
know,
the
stormwater
issue
is
a
large
issue
in
this
applicant
and
this
application,
and
denying
this
this
proposal
is
not
going
to
solve
any
issues,
and
the
applicant
has
stated
here
at
a
public
hearing
that
they're
willing
to
help
solve
the
problem.
So
I
think
doing
nothing
is
not
going
to
fix
anything
approving
this.
This
project
now
getting
the
development
going,
will
provide
more
financial
feasibility
actually
having
them
participate
financially
in
this.
So
I
would
support
that
commissioner
lou
keep
here.
L
B
B
B
A
A
H
The
primary
reason
for
keeping
that
center
space.
In
my
mind,
the
same
is
that
if
that
could
actually
help
in
the
solution
to
the
water
issue,
one
one
solution
might
be
to
try
to
capture
all
the
storm
water,
hitting
that
parking
lot
on
site
and
being
able
to
tip
those
two
parking.
Lots
to
the
center
of
the
site
might
actually
help
keep
that
water
on
site
versus
trying
to
bring
it
to
the
edges
of
the
property.
H
A
L
Yeah,
I'm
a
little
torn
on
these
variances,
I'm
inclined
to
think
one
way
because
of
the
water
situation
and
I'm
inclined
to
think
the
other
way
because
of
the
parking
situation.
If
we
make
them
keep
the
setbacks
off
said
we
lose
parking
if
we
give
them
the
setback,
so
they
have
more
parking.
We
have
a
bigger
water
problem,
so
I'm
I'm
a
little
bit
torn
as
to
what
to
do.
L
I
guess
I'd
be
more
inclined
to
to
give
to
give
them
the
parking
if,
if
they
were
inclined
to
retain
a
guarantee,
retain
a
100
of
their
water
on
site.
I
think
that
would
be
a
nice
gesture
and
I
think,
given
the
land
coverage
and
the
lack
of
really
substantial
vegetation
and
plantings
that
that
they
have
around
their
parking
lot,
it
would
be
appropriate.
But
I
guess
I'm
open
to
hear
what
my
colleagues
have
to
think.
M
M
I
mean
I
would
I
think
that
I
would
support
the
idea
of
of
allowing
more
variants
for
the
parking
lot
if
we
can
solve
some
of
the
parking,
if,
if,
in
fact,
there
is
a
solution
that
will
allow
more
of
the
water
to
be
retained
on
site.
So
again,
I
guess
I
I
I
would
support
what
you
just
said.
I'm
just
not
sure
exactly
how
we're
going
to
accomplish
that
in
our
work
here.
C
L
So
I
guess
this
would
apply
to
both
of
them.
I
would
move
to
approve
the
application
to
the
variances
and
then
at
the
end
of
the
sentence
I
would
say,
provided
they
come
accommodate
100
of
the
storm
water
to
be
retained
on
site,
and
that
would
be
referring
to
the
stormwater
created
by
their
site,
not
not
everyone's
stormwater
on
their
site.
F
F
So
I
would
just
be
cautious
about
a
100
on-site
retention
requirement
and
I
just
also
know
that
maybe
this
has
been
a
little
bit
overlooked,
but
one
portion
one
component
of
staff's
recommendation,
commissioner
kronzer
referred
to
whether
it
would
be
practical
to
include
trees
on
the
north
and
south
landscaped
yards
north
and
south
of
the
parking
lot
that
becomes
more
practical
within
a
five-foot
space
and
I'll
just
note
that
deciduous
trees
can
have
the
potential
to
intercept
an
awful
lot
of
storm
water
before
it
hits
the
ground.
But
then.
N
A
N
A
L
I
mean
I
just
wanted
to
briefly
address
some
of
the
concerns
that
the
community
members
had
in
terms
of.
I
think
you
had
a
lot
of
really
heartfelt
concerns
that
I,
I
think,
resonate
a
lot
with
a
lot
of
people
up
here,
especially,
I
would
say,
the
affordable
housing
component.
It's
something
that's
lacking,
but
unfortunately
it's
nothing
that
we
can
make
a
ruling
on
in
regard
to
these
variances.
L
For
so
we
can't
we
can't
mandate
that
they
make
it
affordable
or
that
they
have
certain
rental
rates.
So
as
much
as
I
am
really
sympathetic
to
the
the
lack
of
affordable
housing
throughout
the
city,
it's
not
something
that
I
can.
We
can
specifically
point
to
as
a
finding
for
denial
of
those
variances.
L
I
will
say
that
for
some
of
these
I
I
I
I
the
point
you
made
about
the
tiny
house
to
the
north
and
how
it's
going
to
feel
dwarfed.
It's
probably
true,
unfortunately,
that
whole
area
is
zoned
r5,
which
indicates
that
future
proposed
growth
for
that
area
of
the
city
is
r5,
so
they're
not
asking
for
anything,
overly
burdensome
for
that
zoning
classification
and
in
fact
they
didn't
even
they
didn't,
they
didn't
apply
for
a
height
variance
or
anything.
L
So
it's
it's
well
within
the
allowable
envelope
so
and
believe
me,
I
think
a
lot
of
people
up
here
are
sympathetic
to
many
of
the
points
you
made
at
the
same
time.
It's
also
not
to
offend
our
heads
very
attractive
building.
However,
you
feel
about
it.
So
now
I'm
not
dissing
the
the
project
as
it
is
that
by
any
means,
I'm
just
saying
that
the
requirements
we're
required
to
find
we're
not
there
for
us
to
be
able
to
make
a
motion
against
these
variances
legally.
L
L
A
R
S
J
S
Has
been
pulled
by
the
applicant
to
discuss
two
specific
conditions
of
approval
this
evening,
so
I'd
like
to
keep
the
the
presentation
short
and
tailored
to
that,
but
I'd
be
happy
to
also
give
you
a
brief
overview.
So,
however,
I'll
start
with
a
very
brief
overview
of
the
applications
and
then
we'll
kind
of
roll
into
the
conditions
of
approval.
So
there
are
five
properties
that
are
associated
with
this
particular
development
of
the
hawthorne
eco
village
apartments.
S
They
do
require
rezoning,
a
conditional
use
permit
for
plan
unit
development,
site
plan
review
and
then
preliminary
and
final
plat.
So
the
parcels
in
question,
of
course,
are
those
that
are
fronting
on
lowry,
lindale
and
then
6th
street
north.
It's
this
chunk
of
the
site
that
is
shaded.
The
only
parcel
is
currently
zoned
or
two
is
the
parcel
that
abuts,
the
very
long
hurst
little
buds
lori,
the
other
four
parcels
to
the
south
are
zoned
are
for
the
applicant
proposes
to
rezone
those
two
or
two
just
quickly
for
context.
S
S
There
is
a
four-story
component
of
the
building
and
a
three-story
component
of
the
building
three
stories:
friends
on
lowry,
where
there's
a
setback
from
basically
zero
to
three
feet
for
the
building
and
the
four-story
component
is
located
adjacent
towards
avenue.
That
setback
of
the
building
in
that
location
is
approximately
seven
feet.
The.
S
Setback
adjacent
to
the
non-conforming
grocery
store
is
at
11
feet,
it's
compliant
and
then
the
setbacks
as
you
round
the
corner
to
sixth:
it's
a
51
foot
setback
to
the
edge
of
the
building
wall
for
the
apartment,
building
and
six
feet
to
the
town,
homes
that
are
located
in
the
back.
So
again,
three
and
four
stories
for
the
building.
It's
71
units.
There
are
68
parking
stalls
that
are
located
within
the
structure
and
then
two
two
unit
townhomes
for
a
total
of
75
units
on
this
specific
site.
S
So
this
bird's
eye
perspective
really
shows
how
the
massing
is
done
on
the
site.
It
shows
again
the
two
two
attached
town
home
units
at
the
back
of
the
site.
Again,
sixth
lowry
and
lindell-
are
your
contacts
four-story
component
again
adjacent
to
lindale
three
adjacent
to
lowry
avenue?
We
are
recommending
approval
of
all
of
the
applications
this
evening.
S
Three
is
relative
to
that,
and
basically
it's
suggesting
that
this
entrance
point
be
reoriented
towards
the
public
street.
So
that's
condition
number
three.
The
applicant
would
like
to
keep
it
as
it's
currently
proposed,
which
again
there
would
be
four
principal
entrances
off
that
interior
component
for
the
two
townhome
units.
So
again,
this
is
condition
three.
S
And
then
there's
one
other
condition
that
the
applicant
has
concerns
with
that
staff
recommended
which
was
limiting
some
of
the
the
material
color
on
the
nichija
panels
on
the
front
face
of
the
building
and
at
the
interior
courtyard.
One
of
the
things
that
we
had
talked
about
too
at
committee
of
the
hall
was
just
trying
to
limit
the
number
of
building
materials
and
the
colors,
and
they
did
make
one
of
the
design
changes
that
both
staff
and
the
planning
commission
had
suggested
as
being
appropriate
at
that
time.
It
was
on
this
face
of
the
building.
S
I
don't
have
the
old
drawings,
but
basically,
what
was
shown
is
that
it
was
all
sort
of
a
grayish
sort
of
silverish
cement
board
product
all
on
the
face
of
that
building.
They've
wrapped
the
brick
and
they've
basically
brought
the
color
from
the
fourth
floor
of
the
building
down
into
the
first
second
third
and
fourth
floors
on
that
elevation.
So
they
have
simplified
it
and
we'd
like
them
to
go
a
bit
further,
which
is
the
reason
for
the
recommendation.
S
There
is
a
blow
up
of
the
color
panels
that
they're
proposing
on
the
front
part
of
the
building
and
they're,
basically,
five
different
colors
of
nichi
hot
panels
that
are
proposed
on
the
building,
and
so
this
breaks
it
down
a
through
e
showing
the
different
variations
in
colors.
Obviously,
greens,
yellows
and
white,
and
just
kind
of
showing
contextually
too.
S
As
you'll
recall,
there
was
a
fairly
significant
grade
change
on
the
site
so,
basically
at
grade
the
building
is
when
you're
at
the
southeast
corner
of
lowry
and
lindale,
so
basically
zero
and
then,
as
you
cut
across
the
site,
heading
east
there's.
Basically
a
10
foot
grade
change
from
this
edge
of
the
building
into
this
edge
of
the
building.
So,
basically,
what
you
have
is
you
have
not
only
exposed
block
concrete
masonry
sort
of
burnished
block
on
the
lower
base
of
the
building
that
is
being
masked
to
some
degree
with
some
living
wall
panels.
S
S
Obviously,
that
was
very
much
recommended
by
staff.
In
fact,
just
as
a
kudos,
the
landscape
plan
was
probably
one
of
the
most
amazing
landscape
plants.
I've
seen
in
a
long
time
with
everything
from
fruit
growing
trees
to
just
a
ton
of
canopy
trees
on
the
site,
so
very
well,
landscaped
very
well
done.
We
just
thought
that
these
two
small
minor
amendments
to
their
site
plan
would
really
improve
it
further.
A
A
J
So
please
state
your
name,
I'm
abby
lewson.
I
work
with
project
for
pride
and
living
and
I'll
be
talking
about
item
three
and
bart.
We'll
talk
about
item
four,
so
we're
really
just
here.
Thanks
for
listening
to
us
present
a
few
more
facts
about
these
we're
not
going
to
go
on
and
on,
but
essentially
our
project.
Is
there
a
master
plan
in
your
packet?
Our
project
was
designed
so
that
the
town
hoses
the
big
building,
all
reinforced
and
kind
of
activate
that
community
green.
J
So
that's
why
the
entrances
to
the
townhouses
face
the
community
green
second
moving
the
principal
entrance
for
that
town
home
to
the
what
would
be
the
east
elevation
would
make
the
the
floor
plan.
Pretty
tight
right
now
is
designed
very
efficiently
with
all
the
circulation
within
the
unit
kind
of
on
the
inside.
J
N
J
T
T
T
At
the
front,
the
north,
it
was
supposed
to
announce
the
entry
to
the
building
as
a
as
a
splash
of
color
multi
colors.
It
was
also
meant
to
anchor
the
end
of
the
green
space.
So,
on
the
west
end
of
the
green
space,
there
was
also
a
splash
of
color
that
would
kind
of
terminate
that
green
space
and
anchor
it.
T
The
other
thing
that
came
up
in
community
meetings
was
the
desire
for
adding
a
sort
of
diversity
of
color,
so
it
wasn't
meant
to
be
one
or
two
colors
there
was
there
is
a
desire
to
have
sort
of
diversity
of
color
and
and
not
just
a
series
of
brick
facades
separate
by
one
color.
So
those
are
the
reasons
we
we
added
the
splash
of
color
at
the
entrance
and
at
the
inside
of
the
courtyard,
and
I
guess
we
would
like
to
have
it-
consider
not
limiting
it
to
just
two
thanks.
H
H
E
J
I
H
J
A
D
H
N
L
L
L
But
the
other
bays
of
color
tone
it
down
and
find
some
refined
element
to
kind
of
make
it
more
grounded
because
it
is
still
a
historic
neighborhood
and
there's
a
lot
of
character
in
the
houses
to
draw
from
and
even
the
eco
village
kind
of
have.
So
I
think
the
most
successful
projects
kind
of
harken
back
to
the
history
rather
than
loud
flashy
in
your
face,
you
know
color.
L
So
I
would
say
that
would
be
my
comment
on
it.
I
don't
know
how
to
word
that
here,
except
to
say,
maybe
I
guess
I'm
looking.
Maybe
staff
could
help
find
wording.
That
would
say
yay
in
that
one
area.
You
can
have
your
five
colors,
but
everywhere
else
I
don't
want
to
say
no
color,
because
everything's
a
color,
but
a
nice
neutral.
L
It
seems
a
little
bit
excessive
and-
and
you
know
it
feel
noisy
to
me
just
looking
at
it,
so
not
not
as
peaceful
and
relaxing
as
that
garden
you
just
created
it
would
be
like
so
anyway,
that's
my
thoughts
on
it.
I'm
not
sure
how
to
word
those
thoughts
in
terms
of
refining
item
number
four,
but
so
so,
maybe
maybe
my
colleagues
can
help
me
word
that
appropriately.
A
All
right,
so
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
to
approve
item
c.
The
site
plan
review
with
the
seven
stated
conditions,
with
the
exception
of
condition
three
which
has
been
struck,
condition
four
addresses
the
colors.
Maybe
maybe
we
just
changed
the
language
of
that
to
suggest
that
the
applicant
work
with
staff
to
refine
the
color
palette,
although
maybe
we
want
to
provide
a
little
bit
more
detail
or
direction
around
that
so.
L
C
F
A
All
right
so
so
again
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
item
c.
The
site
plan
review
with
the
seven
stated
conditions,
with
the
exception
of
item
three
which
has
been
struck
and
item
four,
has
been
reworded
to
to
limit
the
to
to
work
with
staff
to
refine
the
color
palette,
limiting
the
various
colors
over
the
principal
entrances
only
specifically,
and
specifically,
removing
the
yellow
color.