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Minneapolis Public Safety, Civil Rights & Emergency Management Committee Meeting
A
All
right
good
afternoon,
I'm
going
to
call
to
order
this
regularly
scheduled
meeting
of
the
public
safety.
Civil
rights
in
emergency
management
committee
today
is
June,
eighth
2016.
It
is
230
p.m.
and
or
2
32
p.m.
and
I
just
want
to
note
that
we
scheduled
our
meeting
an
hour
later,
just
because
there
were
some
issues
related
to
council
members
having
prior
obligations,
and
we
would
not
have
that
quorum
if
we
would,
it
started
at
130,
and
so
that's
why
the
lateness
in
terms
of
or
us
rescheduling
to
230.
A
So
with
that
said
with
me
today,
our
council
members
right
Quincy
in
Council,
President,
Johnson
and
I
believe
councilmember
Gordon
will
be
joining
us
shortly.
Today
we
have
six
items
on
our
agenda.
Five
of
them
are
consent.
Items
in
one
of
them
is
a
public
hearing
and
I
will
try
to
dispose
of
the
consent
items
first.
So
the
items
are
item
number
two
is
the
contract
amendment
with
Hennepin
health
services
for
provision
of
an
attending
medical
director?
A
Second
item
is
a
contract
with
Minneapolis
Public
Housing
Authority
for
investigating
fraud
under
Section.
Eight
housing
choice.
Voucher
program.
Third
item
is
the
contract
with
SMG
for
premier
perimeter
security
at
US
Bank
Stadium.
The
fourth
item
is
contract
amendment
with
Minneapolis
Public
Schools
for
SROs,
and
that
six
item
is
the
contract.
Compliance
division,
2016
first
quarter
report
and
accounts
numbers.
Anybody
want
to
pull
anything
for
discussion.
Council
president
johnson.
B
C
A
Council
members,
any
other
questions
right,
I
want
to
recognize
the
council.
Member
Gordon
has
joined
us
right
so
I
with
no
further
questions.
I'd
like
to
move
all,
let's
see
one
two,
three
five
consent
items
for
approval,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed.
Okay,
the
motion
carries
all
right.
Our
big
item
or
our
public
hearing
item
is
police
body.
Camera
updates,
and
this
is
an
update
on
the
body,
camera
policy
and
know.
A
Let
me
let
me
just
also
point
out
for
the
record
that
this
this
policy
that
I
was
given
to
us
was
given
to
us
just
this
morning,
I'm
guessing
a
little
bit
after
ten
o'clock,
and
so
some
of
us
might
not
have
had
a
chance
to
review
it.
But
you
know,
hopefully
my
colleagues
can
review
it
as
we
go
and
you
know
do
what
we
can
to
have
some
questions.
But
thank
you,
DC
Arredondo,
a
good.
D
Afternoon
cheering
thank
you
come
timbers
before
you
and
I
know
that
does
cheering
just
mention
you
received
just
recently.
The
latest
draft
policy
for
a
body,
worn
cameras
and
I'd
like
to
take
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
some
of
the
changes
that
have
been
amended
or
placed
in
there
since
the
last
draft
version
and
then,
of
course,
trying
to
answer
any
questions
that
our
committee
members
may
have.
D
So
in
doing
so,
I'd
like
to
just
talk
about
a
couple
of
things
that
from
our
listening
sessions
at
the
Minneapolis
Police
Department,
along
with
the
RNC,
our
members
conducted
several
community
listening
sessions
and
bringing
to
light
some
of
the
things
that
community
members
had
wanted
to
see
in
the
draft
policy
and
kind
of
where
we're
at
and
some
of
the
things
that
have
currently
evolved
since
that
time.
So
and
as
we
all
are
probably
aware
that
the
state
legislature
recently
passed
a
bill
as
it
relates
specifically
to
body
worn
cameras
for
the
state
here.
D
So
that
will
be
incorporated
into
some
of
this
as
well.
One
of
the
main
key
points
that
our
community
members
talked
about
during
those
two
minute.
Listening
sessions
were
consent,
and
while
our
current
draft
policy
does
not
require
officers
to
gain
consent,
it
is
noted
in
this
current
draft
policies
that
officers
should
make
an
effort
to
notify
a
victim
or
witness
of
the
use
of
the
body.
Worn
cameras
and
attempt
should
be
made
to
gain
consent
to
record
their
statements.
D
The
other
key
piece
that
community
members
from
those
listening
sessions
talked
about
was
the
activation
all
time
or
having
those
body
worn
cameras
activated
all
time
while
it
is
not
currently
required.
In
our
current
politrep
policy,
there
are
at
least
still
for
at
least
14
circumstances,
in
which
those
body,
worn
cameras,
would
be
activated.
Obviously,
the
vast
majority
of
those
interactions
with
our
community
members.
D
D
There
is
a
it
also
allows
for
peace
officers
to
review
footage
prior
to
making
the
report
with
that,
though,
in
any
critical
incident,
video
and/or
audio
data
shall
not
be
accessed
unless
approved
by
the
assigned
investigating
agency.
So
that
is
something
that
is
stipulated
in
this
draft
policy,
which
was
I,
don't
believe,
was
in
the
previous
draft
policy.
D
In
those
listening
sessions,
community
members
spoke
strongly
about
making
sure
that
the
draft
policy
detailed
when
video
might
be
altered
and,
as
listed
in
our
draft,
this
current
version
of
the
draft
policy
under
page
9.
It
states
any
necessary
and
lawful,
redaction
or
other
editing
she'll
only
be
completed
by
authorized
personnel
in
the
course
of
their
lawful
job
duties,
and
should
be
important
to
note
that
the
original
recordings
shall
remain
intact
and
stored
within
the
authorized
storage
system
and
our
members
of
the
btu.
D
Our
business
technology
unit
records
information
unit
and
crime
lab
folks,
if
in
fact,
the
chief
or
her
designee
stipulated,
so
they
would
have
access
to
being
able
to
do
that.
However,
it
should
be
noted
once
again
that
there
will
always
remain
the
original
recording
intact,
even
if
a
separate
auditing
or
redacting
function
is
done.
So
just
so.
The
community
members
are
fully
aware
that
no
matter
what
happens
after
a
subsequent
original
recording
is
done,
whether
it's
shortened
lengthened
or
what
have
you
that
original
recording
will
always
remain
intact.
D
This
policy
will
provide
NPD
personnel
with
procedures
for
the
use,
management,
access
retention
and
handling
of
evidence,
storage
and
retrieval
of
recorded
media.
Also.
The
first
bullet
points
also
talks
about
the
importance
of
accountability.
That
was
something
that
was
echoed
throughout
those
community
listening
sessions
and
to
be
very
intentional,
that's
provided
on
the
first
page
of
the
policy.
D
D
Community
members
also
wanted
the
policy
to
note
disciplinary
actions
will
result
if
inappropriate
use
of
those
cameras
were
found
to
be
the
new
draft
policy.
On
page
one
at
the
bottom
section,
there
clearly
notes
that
officers
failing
to
adhere
to
this
policy
or
act
applicable
laws
regarding
the
use
of
body-worn
cameras
and
any
associated
data,
including,
but
not
limited,
to.
Restrictions
regarding
access
in
such
data
are
subject
to
discipline
up
to
and
including
termination.
D
D
Another
point
brought
up
during
those
community
sessions
that
the
MPD
had
heard
from
community
members
was
the
trying
to
address
the
issues
of
privacy
and
who
can
access
video
and
the
issue
of
who
can
access.
The
video
will
be
in
accordance
obviously
with
the
Minnesota
government
data,
Practices,
Act
and
other
applicable
laws
and
state
law
mandates
that
only
persons
in
the
video
can
have
access
to
those
videos.
If
multiple
people
appear
in
those
videos,
the
video
must
be
redacted
so
that
they
cannot
be
identified
in
the
video.
D
One
last
point
before:
if
council
members
have
questions,
one
of
the
conversations
that
occurred
during
the
past
several
months
was,
while
officers
are
going
to
be
equipped
in
the
Minneapolis
Police
Department.
With
these
body,
worn
cameras
in
video
and
recording
citizen
contacts,
there
was
discussion
why
the
Minneapolis
Police
Department
currently
did
not
have
a
specific
policy
on
citizens
rights,
first
member
rights
to
record
officers
since
that
time.
Our
policy
nine
dash
202,
highlights
highlights.
D
The
police
recording
of
public
recording
of
police
activities
once
again
being
very
intentional
to
know
that
the
purpose
of
this
policy
is
to
acknowledge
and
protect
the
constitutional
legal
rights
of
citizens
to
photograph
and
make
audio
and
video
recordings
of
Minneapolis
Police
Department
personnel.
The
Minneapolis
Police
Department
recognizes
that
members
of
the
general
public
have
an
aunt,
have
an
unambiguous
First
Amendment
right
to
record
police
officers,
while
they
are
conducting
official
business
or
while
acting
in
the
official
capacity
in
any
public
space.
D
Unless
such
recordings
interfere
with
police
activity,
our
minneapolis
police
officers
should
assume
that
a
member
of
the
public
is
likely
to
be
observing
and
possibly
recording
their
activities
at
all
times.
Further
in
the
policy,
we
note
that
officers
shall
not
tell
people
that
recording
police
activity
is
not
allowed,
requires
a
permit
or
requires
and
officers
consent,
and
also
to
note
in
that
policy.
D
Employees
shall
not
erase
or
delete
or
request
any
person
to
erase
or
delete
any
files,
media
recorded
images
or
sounds
from
any
camera
or
other
recording
device
that
is
in
the
possession
of
any
person
or
that
has
been
seized
or
voluntarily
turned
over.
Such
action
may
constitute
a
violation
of
the
first
fourth
and
Fourteenth
Amendments.
So
the
I
know
that
the
community
members
had
stressed
about
us
having
a
policy
that
talks
about
their
rights
to
record
our
activities,
and
so
that
policy
is
now
can.
A
E
E
That's
an
individual
police
officers.
What
happens
when
there's
multiple
officers
wearing
cameras
at
an
incident?
Is
there
any
decision
on
camp?
This
incident
is
over.
We
no
longer
need
cameras
and
how
are
we
storing
and
identifying?
What's
the
incident
camera
that's
being
watched
or
can
be
viewed
or
when
multiple
people
are
collecting
information?
Are
we
storing
all
versions
of
that
incident.
D
Cheering
customer
quidsi
so
to
your
question:
yes,
they're,
going
to
be
incidents
where
many
multiple
officers
are
perhaps
recording
the
same
incident
or
seen
all
of
those
individual
cameras.
Are
there
tracked?
So
we
can
if
we
need
a
particular
officers
camera.
We
can
certainly
get
that
footage.
If
that
video
ought
to
note.
Also
officers
cannot
access
the
other
officers
body,
worn
camera
footage,
so
they
cannot
do
that,
but
as
a
typical
scene,
as
we
would
do
now,
let's
say,
for
example,
with
our
MV
are
our
mobile
video
recorders
in
our
squad,
cars,
r
dash
cams.
D
If
there
are
six
or
seven
squads
that
we
see
out
of
the
scene
and
all
of
those
squads
have
what
we
believe
may
be
evidentiary
information
or
evidence
through
those
videos,
we
can
track
and
record
and
make
sure
that
we
get
all
of
that
video
at
the
scene.
So
we
have
ways
of
being
able
to
to
track
that
any
access
by
the
way,
also
of
any
of
the
body
worn
cameras,
they're
time-stamped
they're
off,
so
we
can.
E
D
Charity
and
council
member
Quincy
based
upon
the
circumstances
it
will,
it
will
vary
the
polit.
The
draft
policy
indicates
that,
when
officers
believe
that
the
situation
for
the
most
part
is
over
with
or
there's
no
need
to
capture
any
more
that
they
have
the
discretion
to
deactivate
those
cameras,
there's
also
provisions
in
there
that
require
that
if
the
officer
deactivates
the
camera
but
believes,
perhaps
it
was
a
situation
where
they
should
have
actually
had
it
on.
They
must
document
that
either
through
their
police
report,
or
they
don't
have.
F
Will
have
a
couple
questions
and
I'm
trying
to
review
the
draft
shin
catch
up
on
things
here,
a
little
bit
too
I'm
wondering
about
when,
in
some
circumstances,
will
officers
be
required
to
notify
subjects
that
they
could
remain
anonymous
and
they
can
stop
choosing
a
favor
I'm?
Sorry
if
they
stopped
recording.
If
they
choose
that
option.
D
Cheering
councilmember
Quincy
hot.
Yes,
if
the
officers
in
a
situation
of
report
to
get
the
if
the
officer
is
in
a
situation
where,
based
under
the
parameters
listed
out
when
activation,
should
occur.
If
it
doesn't
meet
one
of
those
criteria
and
the
officer
believes
what
let's
say:
they're
talking
to
a
victim
of
a
sexual
assault
or
something
we're
having
that
camera
deactivated
would
help
increase
the
trust
in
the
person
field
filling
willing
to
share
information,
then
they
can
certainly,
you
know
I'd
like
to
turn
the
camera.
Would
you
like
me
to
turn
the
camera
off?
D
F
Because
it
also
is
it
and
I
think
part
of
that
was
there
might
be
situations
where
the
officer
would
prefer
to
keep
it
going,
but
the
subject
would
have
the
option
to
say
turn
it
off.
So
hopefully
they
will
also
say
you
know
I.
Think
I'd
like
to
record
this,
but
you
I
don't
have
to
record
it
according
to
the
policy.
So
we
could
have
this
turned
off
and
you're
saying
that's
in
in.
D
Councillor
Gordon,
yes,
so
there's
provisions
laid
out
when
the
activation
is
required.
However,
there,
if
there
are
times
when
and
by
the
way
the
community
member
can
always
express
to
the
officer,
if
possible,
they'd
rather
not
be
recorded,
and
once
again,
if
the
officer
feels
that
it's
a
situation
that
not
deemed
it
does
not
deem
to
be
activated,
they
certainly
have
the
discretion
to
deactivate
the
camera.
F
Yes
and
there's
a
very
specific
listed
when
it
should
be
activated
and
the
officer
will
say
I'm
required
to
keep
recording,
certainly
don't
want
every
subject
to
say
turn
it
off
I'm
going
to
do
something
really
horrible
right
now,
I,
don't
want
a
pin
or
something
like
that.
Yes,
so
then
I
also
was
trying
to
find
the
place
in
here
where
it
said.
F
The
people
who
are
the
subject
of
the
footage
could
request
to
review
it
and
I
know
we
refer
to
the
records
information
bureau
and
I
lost
my
place,
but
is
it
does
it
say
explicitly
in
here
that
the
subject
of
the
you
can
review
the
footage?
Yes.
D
I've
carry
gang
council
Invergordon.
So
yes,
that
the
person
who
is
the
subject
of
the
video
can
do
our
record
system
request.
That
footage,
however,
once
again
stipulates
that
if
there
are
any
other
individuals
who
are
captured
in
that
video
recording,
then
it
has
to
go
through
the
process
of
those
individuals,
images
being
or
being
redacted
or
blurred,
and
does.
F
For
example,
if
the
subject
is
deceased
app
you
know,
and
whether
because
of
the
interaction
or
during
that
or
afterwards
or
something
to
as
a
family,
member
or
relative
get
to
review
the
footage
or
if
the
subject
is
a
minor
or
otherwise
isn't
their
own
guardian
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
a
provision-
and
that
might
also
be
in
the
state
law
and
having
to
do
with
data
practices
act
and
who
can
who
can
get
that
kind
of
information?
I'm,
not
sure,
but
it
wasn't
mentioned
in
here
and
I
know
that
did
come
up.
F
D
F
D
It
all
in
one
document
and
cheery
and
mcclearn.
That
is
a
great
point
to
bring
up.
I
do
know
that
from
the
state
law
that
those
individuals
who
are
captured
on
the
video
certainly
have
at
right
to
make
the
request
to
get
others
in
the
video,
for
they
have
to
redact
those.
But
as
far
as
a
draft
policy
I'll
take
a
further
look
into
that
and.
D
F
H
Chair
members
of
the
committee
and
Councilman
Gordon,
you
know
that
that
would
very
much
be
an
analysis
done
under
the
data
practices
act
a
lot
of
times.
We
come
across
requests
for
data
where
the
person,
even
if
not
deceased,
is
not
the
subject
of
the
data.
It's
a
family
member
and
you
have
to
do
the
same
analysis,
no
matter
who
it
is.
If
it's
not
the
subject
of
the
data,
you
have
to
look
to
the
Act
to
see
who
gets
access
to
the
data
or
not.
I
Come
on
up
sorry,
tarrying
and
councilmember
Gordon,
the
the
newly
enacted
provision
in
the
data
practices
act
that
relates
to
body
cameras.
It
allows
just
the
subject
of
the
data
to
get
access
to
it
and,
as
chief
arredondo
already
said,
if
there
are
other
people
visible
in
it
who
have
not
consented
to
the
release,
then
then
their
images,
you
know,
will
be
blurred
if
it's
a
minor
I'm,
not
sure
the
legal
answer,
whether
whether
the
legal
guardian
for
that
minor
would
have
the
right
to
access
it.
I
I've
never
researched
that
topic.
So
I
and
I
know
that
there's
an
answer
some
place,
probably
in
in
the
opinion
serving
what
we've
done
previously
and
we
can
find
out
and
let
you
know
if
it's
a
legally
at
the
individual
as
a
minor
well.
F
A
Recordin
could
I
jump
in
real,
quick
yeah.
With
regards
that,
your
question
there
I
still
a
deputy
chief
arredondo
I,
you
know
kind
of
towards
what
councilmember
important
was
asking
you
know
within
the
policy
I
see
you
know
it
reads:
public
request
for
a
BWC
recording
shall
be
referred
to
records
unit,
and
you
know
that's
that's
one
part
of
a
general
public
but
I
mean
for
the
subject.
I
mean.
Is
there
a
different
track
for
them?
There's
a
faster
track
for
them.
I.
Imagine
in
terms
of
accessing
data
right
and
cheering.
D
Just
to
be
clear,
you're
saying
so,
yes
/
from
our
policy
page,
if
you're,
referring
to,
if
the
subject
of
that
data
wishes
to
seek
a
copy
of
the
video
or
with
for
them
to
go
through
a
record
unit,
riser
faster
track
for
them,
as
it
is
currently
set
up
now
through
our
systems.
That
is
where
all
requests
would
be
would
go
through,
and
so
we
haven't
really
launched
this.
A
Thinking
that
would
make
sense,
especially
you
know,
if
you're
the
subject
matter
of
a
video
camera
footage
of
me.
It
just
seems,
like
you
know,
if
you
put
on
the
same
track
as
let's
say
a
reporter
or
you
know
just
the
general
public
citizen
I
mean
it
could
take
months
and
months
sometimes,
and
you
know
I
mean
especially
if
the
case
is
directly
affecting
you,
I
mean
when
when
it
makes
sense
for
you
to
you
know,
get
access
quicker
or
I
mean
to
maybe
defend
yourself
or
to
you
know,
get
yourself
in
a
better
situation.
D
A
Right
but
I
mean
my
point:
is
you
know
if
I'm
the
subject
of
you
know
bodycam
footage
and
no
I'm
getting
in
line
just
like
everybody
else,
and
you
know
for
somebody
who's,
not
a
subject
and
who
is
making
a
general
requests,
I
mean
if
it
takes
them.
Let's
say
two
months:
you
know
it
shouldn't.
Take
me
two
months,
especially
when
you
know
I
got
to
put
up
my
defense.
D
It
certainly
makes
sense.
We
certainly
want
to
keep
a
consistent,
a
process
in
place
in
terms
of
integrity,
making
sure
that
every
community
member
goes
through
the
same
route.
It's
also
good
for
us
in
terms
of
being
able
to
track
that
through
a
records.
Information
unit
will,
quite
frankly,
will
have
to
have
those
conversations
with
our
ra.
You
staff,
to
see
if
that
means,
if
we
start
seeing
an
innovation
in
a
large
bomb.
D
F
Alright,
that's
fine
and
I
I
kind
of
agree
and
I
wonder
if
there
isn't
a
faster
track
to
get
a
police
report
or
to
get
some
dashcam
footage
if
you're
actually
charged
with
the
crime
or
somehow
you're
getting
put
into
the
system.
There
must
be
a
way
the
people
can
access
that
information
a
little
more
quickly.
Maybe
there
isn't,
but
it
would
seem
that
would
be
a
fair
way
to
do
it.
Although
somewhat
somebody
might
want
to
see
the
footage
right
away
anyway,.
I
Cheering
and
Councilman
record
if
there
is
a
criminal
case
prosecutors,
are
obligated
to
provide
discovery.
You
know
if
discoveries
requesting
were
obligated
to
provide
any
exculpatory
evidence
and
with
this
system
actually
I
think
it's
just
going
to
be
a
matter
of
sending
a
link.
You
don't
and
downloading
it
so
that
we
is
that's
prescribed
by
the
rules
of
criminal
procedure
for
timely
response
to
that,
and
so.
F
Those
cases
it
would
be
rapid,
there
might
be
other
cases
where
you'd
say
I
think
that
something
went
wrong
with
my
interaction
with
the
police
I'd
like
to
review
the
footage
somehow-
and
we
still
may
have
to
wait
so
I
I,
guess
I'm
sympathetic
to
what
you
were
saying
and
I
just
wanted
say
that
would
make
sense
if
somebody's
the
subject
of
it,
that
they
might
be
able
to
review
it
sooner.
The
last
piece
that
I
just
wanted
to
be
clear
about
had
to
do
with
reviewing
that
footage
of
an
incident.
F
Before
writing
a
report
and
I
know
that
came
up
a
lot
in
discussions.
I
know
it
came
up
early
in
our
discussions
and
I
was
looking
at.
What's
our
dash
cam
policy
thinking,
that
would
be
consistent,
and
so
it
seemed
like
reviewing
the
footage
made
sense,
but
I
understand
it
was
left
out
of
the
state
law.
I.
F
Think
the
governor
made
some
comment
about
that
and
didn't
want
it
in
there
and
also
came
up
over
and
over
again
in
the
community
meetings,
but
I
noticed
that
it's
still
in
our
policy
is
that
we
want
the
officers
to
be
able
to
review
their
camera
footage
before
even
writing.
Their
initial
report
said
true.
Charity.
D
F
It
probably
does
improve
the
accuracy.
I
think.
The
concerns
that
we
heard
from
people
is
that
the
arrest
should
have
been
made
on
the
information
that
they
had
at
the
time
and
they
should
had
their
probable
cause
without
reviewing
any
of
that
footage,
and
there
was
somehow
concern
that
the
report
would
change
so
I
think
there
was
some
interest
in
having
an
initial
report
drafted
without
reviewing
the
body,
camera
footage
and
so
I'm,
just
reiterating
what
we've
already
talked
about,
and
we've
already
heard.
F
I
personally
was
kind
of
on
the
fence
on
this,
but
then
I
saw
that
it
might
really
help
address
the
community
issues
of
trust,
and
certainly
the
footage
could
be
reviewed
later,
as
people
are
looking
at
the
case
as
it
moves
up
down
the
line,
but
so
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
that
that
change
hadn't
been
made,
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
community
talks
about
and
we
haven't
changed
the
policy
at
this
point.
Thank.
B
B
D
D
Cheering
if
I,
could
the
consular
reports
I
know
that
you
had
mentioned
regarding
the
officers
being
able
to
review
the
reports
prior
to
being
able
to
watch
the
video
prior
to
making
the
reports
I
just
want
to
highlight
that
it's
very
important
to
during
critical
incidents.
That
would
not
be
the
case.
So
if
it's
a
critical
incident,
officers
would
not
be
reviewing
video
and,
as
the
draft
policy
indicates
in
here
during
a
critical
incident,
the
investigative
agency
are
those
investigative
agents
who
are
handling
that
critical
incident.
D
A
D
There
might
be
a
situation
where
it's
an
accidental
discharge
of
firearm,
but
under
this,
under
this
provision,
officer
involved
in
a
shooting
or
discharge
of
weapon
is
his
or
her
weapon,
as
well
as
just
discharged
the
weapon
and
a
use
of
force
that
results
in
substantial
bodily
harm
and
those
circumstances
officers
would
not
be
under
critical.
Instant
would
not
be
viewing
the
video
part
of
making
report,
but
also
under
those
circumstances
those
videos
would
be
deemed
public,
okay,
so
discharge
weapon
and
any
use
of
force
by
an
officer
that
results
in
substantial
bodily
harm.
A
D
Cheering
under
the
under
the
provision
under
critical
incident,
currently
the
officers
under
this
year
would
not
be
allowed
to
view
the
video
prior
to
making
the
report.
Okay.
However,
if
that
critical
incident
involves
one
or
if
the
incident
involves
an
officer
discharging
their
weapon
aside
from
the
Crypt
immune,
not
speaking
so
much
dirt,
Winston
discharged
weapon
or
use
of
force
that
results
in
substantial
bodily
harm,
those
videos
are
being
public.
Now
there
are
going
to
be
exceptions,
perhaps
if
that
a
matter
is
under
criminal
investigation
review
or
what
have
you?
A
Council,
prizes
and
guns-
and
you
have
any
more
questions-
okay,
all
right.
Well,
if
we
can
save
some
questions
for
after
the
public
hearing,
that
would
be
great
and
we're
going
to
go
straight
to
the
public
hearing
now,
and
so
we're
going
to
be
on
this
public
hearing
and
the
process
will
proceed
as
follows:
a
member
of
the
public
who
wants
to
speak
if
you
can
sign
up
with
the
clerk
that
would
be
very
helpful
for
us.
A
We
will
begin
with
the
list
and
if
the
clerk
can
just
give
me
the
list,
oh
we
don't
have
anybody
signed
up
by
now.
Okay!
Well,
this
might
be
quick
and
we're
going
to
open
up
the
public
hearing.
I
would
not
allow
people
to
say
for
three
minutes.
I
just
want
to
know
that
three
minutes
is
fairly
long
for
public
hearings
and
so
I'm
going
to
cut
you
off
at
three
minutes.
Okay,
and
that's
pretty
much
it
anybody
wanting
to
submit
written
comments,
please
feel
free
to
do
so.
A
You
can
submit
the
public
comment
to
the
cleric
or
to
myself
and
I
will
get
it
to
all
the
members
here,
and
that
is
about
it.
After
the
public
hearing
is
closed,
accounts
members.
We
will
open
it
up
for
a
discussion
and
we're
comments
afterwards
and
then
I
just
want
to
note
that
we
are
not
voting
on
what
whether
to
approve
this
policy
or
not.
A
We
are
taking
public
comments
and
then
we
will
receive
and
file
these
at
the
end
and
that's
the
extent
of
what
we're
doing
is
a
committee
just
to
be
clear,
and
so
does
anybody
have
any
questions
about
this
all
right?
Well,
we
are
going
to
open
up
the
public
hearing
and
anybody
who
has
signed
up
or
would
like
to
speak.
Please
come
on
up.
Please
state
your
name,
your
address
for
the
record.
Please
come
on
up.
J
Sure
yeah
members,
my
name,
is
Jim
Michaels,
I'm
attorney
for
the
Police
Federation.
We
welcome
the
opportunity
to
address
you
on
this
issue
today.
The
first
thing
I
would
like
everybody
to
know
is
that
going
all
the
way
back
to
squad
video
cameras
back
in
the
mid-2000s,
I'm
going
to
say
about
maybe
2004-2005.
J
The
Police
Federation
has
taken
the
conscious
step
to
collaborate
and
cooperate
with
the
police
administration
rather
than
fight
the
issue,
and
we
have
a
long-standing
history
of
working
together
to
try
and
come
up
with
policies
that
serve
all
interests,
including
the
public
and
police
officers
and
and
the
administration
body.
Cameras
has
been
no
different.
We
helped
facilitate
the
pilot
program.
We
worked
with
the
City
Attorney's
Office
in
lobbying
and
addressing
the
legislature
both
last
year
and
this
year
on
what
wound
up
in
the
body
camera
legislation
that
was
signed
by
the
governor.
J
J
Cameras,
surveillance,
I,
know
that
that
was
one
of
the
topics
that
that
you
heard
from
community
members
on,
but
I
think
it
was
important
in
the
pilot
program
and
we
believe
it's
important
to
maintain
that
in
the
ongoing
policy
that
that
that
the
body
cameras
may
be
reviewed
periodically
on
a
random
basis
for
compliance
with
the
policy.
But
we
do
have
an
objection
if
the
intent
is
to
try
and
target
individual
officers
to
to
spot-check
or
to
pour
through.
J
We
don't
think
that
that's
appropriate
and
in
fact,
one
of
the
reasons
why,
in
the
in
the
a
pilot
program
policy
we
referred
to
the
language
prohibiting
the
surveillance
on
officers
is
because
there's
case
law
from
many
other
jurisdictions
throughout
the
country
that
when
the
body
camera
system
is
used
for
purposes
of
surveilling
officers,
it
becomes
a
term
and
condition
of
employment
that
has
to
be
negotiated,
and
we
have
not
taken
that
position
on
any
of
the
technology
pieces
that
we
worked
at
have
worked
on
for
the
last
several
years
and
we
don't
really
want
to
do
it
with
this
either
on
and
so
I
think.
J
Perhaps
in
the
discussions
we
have
had
on
this
issue
with
the
police
administration,
we
can
find
maybe
a
happy
medium
to
assure
that
the
interests
of
the
public
in
in
policy
compliance
are
satisfied
without
necessarily
allowing
the
absence
of
that
language
to
facilitate
a
winch
hunt
on
individual
officers.
So
that's
the
concern
we
just
wanted
to
bring
that
forward
to
you
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
in
the
minute:
twenty
six,
five,
four
that
I
have
left.
Otherwise.
Thank
you
for
the
time.
Thank.
A
A
D
Cheering
council
members-
this
has
been
a
very
as
far
as
you
receiving
it
just
today
we
have
literally
been
been
working
on
it
and
it's
a
it's.
A
very
weighty
and
important
document
I
mean
we've
certainly
heard
from
community.
This
was
a
this
something
that
our
entire
police
department
is
going
to
be
utilizing.
D
Many
in
the
community
have
expressed
that
this
is
a
tool
that
could
potentially
help
build
the
trust.
So
we
we
know
that
we're
not
seeking
perfection
in
this
policy,
but
we
certainly
are
trying
to
seek
something
if
it
will
establish
goodwill
and
and
help
us
with
the
accountability
and
trust
that
we
are
so
intentional
in
mentioning
in
the
first
listing
in
the
first
page
of
this.
D
You
know
if
there
are
things
that
continue
to
come
up
or
fear
things
or
issues
that
we
still
need
to
look
at
now
that
the
legislature
has
passed
their
bill.
We
still
want
to
confer
and
and
make
sure
that
we
get
this
as
right
as
positively
as
we
can
so
in
terms
of
the
delay
in
our
council
persons
getting
this
this
morning.
Our
apologies
in
that,
but
I
want
to
assure
you
that
it
was
something
that
was
not
sitting
on
a
shelf
for
the
last
three
months.
D
It
has
been
a
living
working
document
and,
quite
frankly,
will
continue
to
be,
and
even
after
we
establish
a
policy
to
roll
out,
I
can
almost
guarantee
you.
We
will
continue
to
come
back
to
this
as
communities
needs
change
as
technology
changes
as
the
hear
from
our
officers
what's
working
out
there
in
terms
of
the
equipment
all
of
those
things.
This
will
continue
to
be
a
living
breathing
document
so
and.
A
You
know
with
regards
to
officers
having
to
remove
themselves
from
service
because
their
battery
is
out
or
something
like
that.
I'm
just
wondering
do.
Are
we
purchasing
a
spare?
You
know
body
one
cameras
as
well,
or
you
know
spare
battery
packs
or
something
like
that.
Just
said
that
they
won't
be
out
of
service
for
very
long
if
and
when
their
battery
runs
out.
Cheering.
D
My
understanding
is
yes
or
a
part
of
the
purchasing
will
be
to
equip
with
her
folks
will
be.
Managing
the
equipment.
Meats
will
have
some
spares,
but
part
of
also
built
into
the
the
draft
policy
about
officers
making
sure
that
they
do
these
regular
check-ins
in
terms
of
the
equipment.
Malfunctioning
damage
at
the
beginning
other
shifts
and
throughout
the
ship.
Just
is
to
assure
that
if
we
do
have
a
faulty
device
out
there
that
it's
getting
in
serviced
right
away,
so
that
it's
not
taking
up
too
much
time
for
an
officer
being
out
of
service.
D
D
D
You
know
we'll
make
sure
that
we're
monitoring
that
supervisors
will
also
be
monitoring
that
if
we
see
that
there's
issues
in
terms
of
the
equipment
itself
that
is
causing
a
you
know
a
delay
in
getting
swapped
out
or
what
have.
You
will
certainly
be
monitoring
that
and
working
with
the
vendors
on
that
yeah.
A
Okay
and
how
you
know
couldn't,
can
you
speak
to
what
add
mr.
Michael's
pointed
out
a
little
bit
earlier,
which
is
no
I?
Think
I
mean
everyone
will
agree
with
this
idea
of
auditing
to
improve
our
police
departments,
but,
in
terms
of
you
know,
a
witch
hunt
for
let's
say
a
problem
officer
that
you
know
we're
going
to
go
back.
You
know
anywhere
from
two
to
six
months.
Looking
at
you
know
any
of
their
body
camera
footage
just
to
see
any
mistakes
that
they've
made
for
discipline.
D
Cheering
so
in
fergus
I've
had
not
had
the
opportunity
to
have
a
discussion
with
mr.
Michaels,
but
the
intent
is
really
similar
to
other
things
that
we
already
have
in
place
now,
for
example,
if
there's
opportunities
for
supervisor
22
look
at
these
in
terms
of
a
training
situation
or
coaching
situation
as
you're
well
aware
we're
going
to
be
implementing
an
EIS
system
real
soon,
there's
measures
we
have
in
place
now
with
our
internal
affairs
unit
that
looks
at
use
of
force
reports
and
and
swap
our
video.
D
Now
many
of
those
are
to
look
at
just
to
see
if
there's
any
training,
issues
or
policy
issues
it
might
have
occurred
and
they
can
range
from
everything
from
coaching
to
to
be
on
it,
but
the
intent
is
certainly
not
to,
as
our
supervisors
are
looking
for
specific
ways
to
wear
those
violations
or
things
to
to
provide
penalties
against
the
officer
really.
What
this
is
is
for
office
supervisors
to
do
just
that,
to
supervise
their
people
to
look
at
ways.
If
that's
like
I,
said
it's
a
training
issue,
coaching
issue.
D
This
is
once
again
this
is
going
to
be
new
technology
for
the
police
department.
It's
important
that
not
only
the
officers
as
they
go
through
this
and
learn
the
the
nuances
of
this
equipment.
It's
important
for
supervisors
to
assure
that
the
officers
like
every
policy
that
the
officers
are
in
accordance
with
those
policies
and
procedures
and
I
also
think
that
that
also
helps
establish
and
build
that
the
trust
that
we're
trying
to
gain
as
well.
Okay,.
G
A
You
know
another
question
kind
of
going
back
to
earlier
when
reviewing
video
and
from
the
citizens
perspective.
If
you're
the
subject
matter
of
you
know
of
footage
in
that
situation,
then
you're
getting
interrogated.
It
were
question.
Let's
say
that
night
or
the
following
nights:
I
mean
in
that
situation:
I
mean
you
know.
If
you
want
the
same
privilege
that
an
oscar
has
in
terms
of
reviewing
video,
I
mean,
can
you
make
that
request
and
will
that
request
be
granted
at
that
point
or
you
know,
do
those
citizens
happen
just
go
through
our
normal
processes.
D
A
F
Cursive
aware
the
policy
is
going
to
be
posted,
so
people
can
find
it
and
see
it.
I
guess
I'm
hoping
especially
if
there's
changes
that
come
in
the
future
will
be
notified,
but
I
also
that
it
will
be
on
the
police
department's
webpage
and
their
site.
There
and
it'll
be
easily
accessible
to
everybody,
so
they
can
check
it
now
and
into
the
future.
D
Trivia
income
important
so
yes,
prior
to
the
actual
1st
precinct
officer,
is
rolling
out
with
the
body
cameras
policy
obviously
will
have
to
be
in
place.
Yes,
we'll
make
sure
that
we
get
it
posted
online
and
through
different
different
media
sources
and
outlets
for
folks.
I
should
also
mention
too
I'll
continue
to
work
with
NCR.
We
will
plan
to
hit
communities
as
well
to
educate
them,
make
them
aware,
listen
to
them
regarding
with
whatever
the
final
policy
will
be
as
well,
and
when.
F
D
F
A
Let's
say
you
know
there
are
10
spot
guys
going
into
a
house.
I
mean.
Are
all
the
cameras
on
you
know,
I
see
I,
see
a
provision
here
that
says
you
know
any
technical
injury
or
force
entry
into
a
building
unless
the
supervisor
has
determined
in
advance
at
the
video
or
audio
data
could
result
in
the
disclosure
of
operational
tactical
information
that
would
compromise
the
effectiveness
of
future
actions
or
jeopardize
offer
safeties.
So
you
let's
say:
if
that
exception
is
not
there.
A
Okay
right,
that's
numbers
any
other
questions
all
right.
Seeing
none
I
will
just
boob
to
receive
and
file
this
action
and
we'll
kind
of
go
from
there.
So
I'm
any
questions
right
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
hi,
any
opposed
all
right!
Thank
you
and
with
that
we
are
done
with
our
businesses
for
this
committee
and
so
yep
council
president
johnson
Thank.
B
You
mr.
chair
and
nothing's
chief
chief
Arredondo
I
just
wanted
to
comment
that
there's
a
very
compelling
story
in
the
startribune
today
about
a
young
girl
who
was
shot
in
her
bedroom
in
North
Minneapolis,
and
the
challenges
that
she's
going
through
in
her
mother's
account
of
the
the
trying
to
deal
with.
What's
going
on
outside
her
home
in
esco
escalation
that
comes
with
people
playing
dice
games.
B
That
kind
of
thing
is
what
she's
talking
about,
and
this
young
woman
has
got
a
injury
to
her
foot
that
isn't
healing
well
according
again
to
this
article,
and
I
I
just
I,
really
want
to
point
out
again.
These
are
this
is
going
on
too
much
a
child
has
got
an
injury
in
her
foot
that
may
affect
her
for
the
rest
of
her
life.
We
all
walk
on
our
feet.
We
know
how
important
they
are.
This
is
just
intolerable
in
our
city
and
I
can't
stress
enough.
B
A
Council
president,
if
I
may
add
to
that
you
know,
as
we
are
here
now,
the
funeral
for
Bernal
beaks
happening
on
the
north
side
at
New,
Salem,
Baptist,
Church
and
misspeaks
was
the
grandmother
who
was
in
the
minivan
when
some
trey
bullets
were
shot
and
it
hit
her
and
killed
her
n.
So
I
completely
agree
with
you
on
that
public
safety
should
be
our
number
one
priority,
especially
given
you
know
the
number
of
shootings
that
are
happening
on
the
north
side
there.
So
yes,
I,
agree
with
you.
A
You
know,
and
let
me
let
me
close
by
just
saying:
no
I
really
appreciate
the
police
department
and
all
our
staff,
who
are
not
a
part
of
the
police
departments
as
well
in
terms
of
engaging
the
public
and
allowing
the
public
to
comment
on
our
body,
worn
camera
and
policy
and
doing
everything
we
can
to
get
to
a
place
where
we
would
have
the
best
policy
possible
under
the
circumstances,
understanding
it's
a
you
know,
living
working
document
that
could
change
over
time.
A
You
know
based
on
you
know,
incidents
were
based
on
trial
and
error
and
those
words
of
things,
but
in
just
to
have
that
sort
of
engagement
that
includes
going
out
to
the
community
talking
with
different
folks,
you
know
engaging
with
the
PCO,
see
I
mean
doing
all
that
sort
of
thing
I
mean
you
know.
I
think
it's
it's
a
good
example
of
how
we
should
be
engaging
with
you
know.
A
Everybody
just
said
that
we
come
up
with
something
that
works
for
you
know
this,
this
great
me
that
we
have
in
minneapolis,
and
so
thank
you
to
the
police
department
and
everybody
involved
in
terms
of
helping
us
get
to
this
point,
and
no,
I
know
that
we
were
kind
of
you
know
dancing
a
little
bit
on
eggshells.
You
know
with
regards
to
public
this
public
safety
committee.
A
You
know
involving
itself
in
you
know
the
policy-making
related
to
have
this
body
worn
camera,
but
no,
I
think
we
feel
like
we
did
it
well
enough
that
we
didn't
step
on
anybody's
toes
and
we,
you
know,
got
to
a
good
place
and
you
know.
Hopefully,
we
will
get
a
really
good
policy
out
when
we
started.
We
can
slowly
change
it
as
we
move
on,
but
thank
you
so
much
everybody,
okay.
So
with
that
and
with
no
further
business
before
this
committee,
we
will
adjourn
this
eating.
Thank
you.