►
From YouTube: September 27, 2017 Board of Estimate & Taxation
Description
Minneapolis Board of Estimate & Taxation
C
B
A
There's
been
a
motion
made.
Is
there
a
second
second
motion
made
in
second
at
all
in
favor,
say
aye,
it's
the
same
sign
all
right.
We
have
an
agenda
we're
starting
with
some
new
business.
We
will
be
having
a
time
certain
public
hearing
on
the
budget
at
exactly
five
minutes
after
5:00.
So
we've
got
a
generous
eight
minutes
to
conduct
our
our
business
first
and
we
don't
finish
it
all
we'll
do
it
afterwards.
So,
let's
Jack,
let's
move
forward
I,
would.
E
Move
item
number
one,
which
is
the
2017
adopted
capital
program
for
the
Minneapolis
Park
and
Rec
board,
supported
by
general
obligation,
bonds
for
park
board
resolution;
2017
our
245
requesting
the
issuance
of
ten
million
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
bonds.
The
park
board
resolution
2017
our
239
requesting
the
issuance
of
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
assessment
bonds
for
the
2017
disease,
tree
removal
program
and
C
City
Council.
A
A
C
G
E
Thank
you
and
I
would
just
like
to
say
thanks
to
everybody
who
made
this
possible,
we're
very,
very
excited
to
start
working
on
our
many
many
projects.
We
have
a
lot
of
incredibly
busy
staff
who
are
working
on
these
and
we
look
forward
to
being
able
to
do
a
whole
lot
more
than
we've
been
able
to
do
in
the
past.
So
again,
thanks
to
City
Council,
the
mayor,
Council
President
Johnson
for
working
with
us
on
this
a
great
a
great
thing
did
they
happen?
You.
A
You
know
they
think
one
two
three
years
down
the
line,
this
long
range
thought
I,
think
was
absolutely
fabulous
and
it
says
that
a
lot
about
the
leadership
in
this
in
this
city
and
and
the
hard
work
that
goes
on,
especially
by
staff,
to
help
make
this
a
reality.
So
it's
before
us
is
there
any
further
discussion,
seeing
none
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
opposed
same
sign
that
looks
like
we've
got
all
on
board.
Jack.
B
E
A
B
A
Thank
you
very
much
so
now
we've
got
our
time
certain
and
we've
got
gosh.
We
we
did
that
in
formats
we've
got
four
extra
minutes.
Would
it
we
really
can't
start
till
five?
Oh
five
would
be
my
understanding.
Is
that
correct?
Can
we
can
we
move
to
any
other
matters
to
for
the
next
few
minutes
before
we
start
are.
G
B
The
top
one
basically
is
an
illustration
of
areas:
20:17
houses,
the
first
house
is
a
hundred
thousand
and
market
value,
and
second
house
is
125,
and
it
goes
up
to
the
right
of
the
shade
of
line.
Then
is
if
the
question
is
asked
what
happens
if
my
estimated
market
by
equals
down
five
percent,
goes
down.
Two
percent
stays
the
same
increases
two
and
a
half
increase.
B
This
five
increase
the
seven
and
a
half
ten
percent
and
twelve
and
a
half
percent,
so
you
can
run
through
these
different
scenarios
and
you
go
to
the
bottom
line
of
each
calls
and
so
on.
If
you
had
$100,000
house
and
for
page
17
and
went
down
5%
market
value,
your
tax,
that
would
be
11%
lower
in
18,
and
that
would
be
a
$51
lower
tax
bill.
So
you
can
go
through
whatever
scenario
you
think
your
halls
had
and
it
showed
you
what
happens
to
the
taxes.
B
When
we
get
up
to
the
public
hearing,
I
have
information
with
regards
to
what
I
follow,
which
is
houses
from
14
to
18
that
are
homestead
in
value
and
I
have
not
had
any
permits
pool.
So
all
the
value
changes
are
basically
real
market
values
and
I
kind
of
like
to
wait
to
have
to
the
public
hangers.
We
don't
have
enough
time
to
worry,
discuss
it.
A
G
A
A
F
A
H
A
D
A
H
Chair
I
would
also
invite
that,
since
we
are
waiting-
and
the
conversation
was
about-
whether
somebody
could
get
here
in
time
to
provide
testimony
to
us
during
the
hearing-
and
most
people
wouldn't
be
able
to
get
here
in
time
to
provide
testimony,
but
they
could
actually
send
an
email
in
time
for
mr.
quality
to
reflect
that
before
we
vote
on
the
final
tax
levy.
That
is
why
I
brought
it
up.
Okay,.
G
H
A
E
Think
that,
very
often
when
people
come
to
testify
it's
about
issues
that
actually
have
a
lot
to
do
with
the
budget
and
and
the
priorities
within
the
budget,
so
I
even
getting
testimony
after
the
fact
can
be
helpful
because
I
think
that
can
help
the
mayor
and
the
City
Council
determine
you
know
how
to
set
some
priorities
or
maybe
change
priorities
as
they
go
ahead
and
work
through
that
the
finalized
budget.
So
again.
F
F
Thank
You.
Mr.
president,
the
adoption
for
the
budget
I
believe
is
December
6,
that's
correct!
That's
the
date
of
the
adoption
of
the
budget.
There
is
a
public
hearing
in
two
public
hearings.
One
of
those
is
on
the
sixth
and,
in
addition,
speaking
about
comments
on
the
budget,
which
is
not
what
we're
talking
about
here,
is
setting
the
maximum
levy
within
the
board
of
estimate
taxation,
but
the
tool
that's
been
created
for
the
website
is
easily
found
at
budget
dot,
minneapolis
MN
gov,
and
it
invites
comments
frequently
during
that
process.
F
The
first
of
our
department,
public
hearings,
begins
on
October
3rd
and
the
schedule
for
those
Department
hearings
are
also
available
on
that
website.
So
people
will
be
able
to
look
at
the
actual
budget.
The
connection
and
the
presentations
associated
with
each
of
those
department,
budgets
and
comments
are
welcome
online
during
that
process.
Thank.
G
To
be
clear,
the
people
who
are
watching
at
home
we
have
no
way
to
get
emails.
If
you
email
us
right
now
and
if
you're
getting
this
on
repeat
on
cable
access,
it
is
also
too
late
because
we
will
be
making
the
vote
for
the
maximum
property
tax
levy
in
the
next
couple
of
minutes.
If
you
do
want
to
have
input
into
the
budget
process,
though,
you
need
to
contact
the
City
Council
and
the
mayor
on
that.
It
is
too
late
to
contact
the
board
of
estimate,
but
please
do
participate.
G
A
Thank
you
very
much
so
now
little
past
our
time
certain,
but
we
have
a
public
hearing
that
we
never
adjourned.
So
we
are
open
for
a
speaker.
I
know
what
has
joined
us.
Thank
you
very
much
for
coming
and
you
come
up
to
the
microphone
and
introduce
yourself
and
let
us
know
your
address
and
we'd,
be
delighted
to
hear
hear
from
you.
I
D
I
And
so
really
what
I
wanted
to
say
in
view
of
this
proposal
for
the
levy
increase,
which
then
backstops,
of
course,
the
property
taxes.
It's
that
it's
excessive
and
exploitive
and
totally
insensitive
to
the
burden
that
it's
putting
on
households
in
my
neighborhood
and
the
city
in
totality
and
what
I
mean
by.
F
I
This
exhibit
and
I.
Don't
know
how
to
you
know.
It
looks
good
this.
What
this
shows
is
the
overall
property
taxes
in
the
city
of
Minneapolis
promote
Udo
17,
which
have
increased
at
five
point.
Three
percent
Currier
my
bill
for
my
house
has
increased
five
point:
five
percent
per
year
theoretically
in
2002,
if
my
income
was
a
hundred
and
hundred
thousand
per
year
and
it
increased
at
this
average
rate
of
average
weekly
earnings
in
the
state
of
Minnesota
over
the
time.
F
I
This
is
such
a
you
know:
there's
not
a
lot
of
evidence
for
what
this
results
him
in
terms
of
burden
within
my
neighborhood
anecdotally,
there's
been
dozens
of
people
that
I've
known
over
the
years,
who
have
either
chosen
not
to
move
in
my
neighborhood
and
moved
to
st.
Louis,
Park
or
Edina,
because
of
that
burden
or
because,
when
they
had
children,
they
moved
because
the
tax
burden
was
too
high
relative
to
the
value
that
you
get
for.
Schooling
and
housing
in
Minneapolis.
I
So
I
think
that
this
contribute
increase
in
the
levy
is
exacerbating
the
distortions
between
Minneapolis
or
those
South,
West
neighborhoods,
and
they
those
adjoining
suburbs
Edina
in
st.
Louis
Park
and
it
produces
more
flood
and,
what's
even
more
scarier
to
me,
is
if
I
look
at
your
five-year
forecast.
That's
for
a
five
point:
five
percent
increase
each
year
and
so
for
the
city.
To
me,
it's
as
our
representatives.
I
It's
very
important
that
you
not
only
acknowledge
the
burden
that
you're
putting
on
the
on
the
households
of
Minneapolis
but
you're,
exacerbating
what
I
call
rent
shifting
from
the
people
who
use
the
assets
of
Minneapolis,
which
has
many
of
us
at
all
the
surrounding
community,
so
you're
putting
more
rents
on
us,
the
homeowners
in
Minneapolis
and
you're,
not
taxing
or
you're,
shifting
their
ments
from
the
people
in
those
suburban
communities.
So
there
should
be
a
different
mechanism
for
the
city
to
pay
for
its
bills.
I
The
city
should
take
a
more
I,
think,
responsive
recognition
of
the
burden
that
they're
putting
onto
the
households
of
the
city
by
trying
to
provide
more
services
for
about
the
same
cost
like
every
large
business
does
in
the
United
States
and,
as
I
said
earlier,
looking
for
a
different
mechanized
mechanism
to
lower
the
burden
to
create
more
equality
between
Minneapolis
and
the
suburban
communities.
And
you
could
do
that
by
putting
on
Yousefi
for
the
city
of
Minneapolis.
I
So
if
you
don't,
if
you're,
not
a
resident
of
Minneapolis,
what
would
you
say
if
we
were
to
put
a
two
hundred
dollar
fee
for
you
to
park?
In
the
city
of
Minneapolis,
if
you're
not
a
resident
like
the
state,
the
City
of
Tucson,
like
Deephaven
in
our
own
community
or
like
Provincetown
Massachusetts,
which
is
they
charged
two
hundred
and
seventy
per
year,
if
we
look
at
what
the
city
has,
if
you
were
to
lower
the
property
tax,
could.
I
A
I
You
so
if
you
were
to
reduce
the
city's
burden
on
tax
payers
by
20
percent,
that
would
create
a
revenue
hole
in
the
city
of
Minneapolis
budget
of
thirty
one
point:
four
million.
If
you
charge
the
use
fee
for
parking
in
the
city,
if
you
were
not
a
resident
of
two
hundred
dollars,
you
would
have
to
have
one
hundred
fifty
seven
thousand
users.
If
you
look
at
how
many
people
commute
here
per
day
in
a
car
from
outside,
you
would
be
able
to
tax.
I
Fifty
three
thousand
of
those
and
you'd
have
to
find
eighty
three
thousand
for
people
who
don't
commute
and
park
in
their
city.
Now,
obviously,
those
are
just
rough
numbers
and
you
can
manipulate
them.
That
would
also
no
doubt
result
in
lower
congestion,
as
people
chose
to
take
the
bus
or
to
carpool
with
a
friend
versus
paying
the
two
hundred
bucks,
but
there's
different
mechanisms
that
create
different
public
policy
goals
to
help
meet
different
public
policy
goals,
while
reducing
burden
on
the
Minneapolis
taxpayer.
So.
F
A
A
G
A
A
H
A
B
The
first
multi-page
thing
so
what
we
went
over
it
before
the
public
hearing,
so
you
can
look
up
a
housing
value
and
ask
yourself
this
theoretical
question
of
what
happened
as
a
market
value.
What
happened
in
the
taxes,
as
I've
always
said,
there
may
be
a
simple
question
about
property
taxes:
I,
don't
care
how
simple
the
question
is.
There
are
no
simple
answers.
B
In
2002
to
2017
is
a
extended
period
of
time,
which
is
complicated
for
analysis,
because
the
market
value
of
credit,
it
was
not
in
existence
back
in
2002.
It
was
a
homestead
credit
and
had
a
different
effect,
basically
on
different
homes.
The
next
page,
basically
at
the
top,
shows
the
estimated
market
values
for
P
2018
and
that's
has
almost
31,000
homes
and
that
from
2014
to
2018
have
not
had
any
permits
pull.
So
all
these
value
changes
are
based
on
pure
marketplace,
and
this
is
a
breakdown
of
homes
pipe
bracket.
B
So
if
you
go
down
the
bracket
number
9,
which
is
$250,000
estimated
market
value
to
275
thousand,
you
can
see
there's
three
thousand
seven
hundred
and
fifty
nine
parcels
for
seven
point
four
percent
of
the
sample
size
in
in
that
bracket.
So
it
gives
you
the
distribution
of
housing
within
these
different
brackets
of
home
values,
the
paid
the
section
below
yeah.
A
Jack
I
need
to
jump
in
at
this
moment
because
I'm
this
is
people
who
are
watching
this
have
no
clue
of
what
we're
talking
about,
because
this
is
a
huge,
complicated
and
complex
document.
What
the
public
is
interested
in,
who
are
listening
to
us
and
this
whole
thing.
What
they're
interested
in
is
what
is
going
to
be
the
effect
on
my
house,
and
it
varies
all
over
the
city.
It.
The
taxes
I
used
to
live
in
Linden,
Hills
I
live
very
close
to
it.
A
Now
taxes
linden
hills
are
about
the
highest
if
anywhere
the
city
there's
a
few
other
places,
it
might
be
a
little
bit
higher,
but
their
high
I
know
I
looked
on
Aven
and
it's
very
different
in
parts
of
the
north
side
is
very
different
in
other
nations
and
it's
very
tough
to
understand
with
it.
This
is
a
great
document,
but
it
the
public,
isn't
gonna
understand
from
our
discussion
unless
we
make
it
really
straightforward
with
what
we're
talking
about
right
now,
unfortunately,.
B
F
B
Their
impact
not
only
for
the
city
but
for
the
county
in
a
school
district
and
the
miscellaneous
taxing
districts
and
that's
the
information.
That's
under
the
process
calls
out
in
which
the
city
pays
at
Porton
postage
fee
for
to
all
individual
park,
property
owners
in
the
middle
of
November,
and
that's
what
generates
the
public
attendance
at
councils,
public
hearing
in
December
before
the
adoption
before
that
there's?
Basically,
no
public
information
disseminated
on
a
personal,
specific
basis.
G
B
B
H
G
Doing
a
little
bit
of
quick
math
about
fifteen
percent
of
homeowners
are
going
to
sorry.
Ten
percent
of
homeowners
are
gonna,
see
a
fifteen
percent
or
more
increase
under
this
budget.
So
that's
the
the
top
the
bottom
three
on
that
list,
because
possibly
it
would
be
possible
to
post
this
top
pay
top
part
of
this
o.
All.
A
D
H
Thank
You
mr.
chair
yeah,
there's
a
couple
things
that
I
would
like
to
say:
first
about
the
budget
itself
that
the
budget
that
I
have
presented
to
the
City
Council
and
the
considering
and
the
tax
levy
that
has
been
brought
forward
to
the
board
of
estimate.
Taxation
builds
on
investments
of
the
last
three
years
and
the
challenges
and
the
opportunities
that
the
city
are
faced
is
faith
has
been
facing.
It
also
builds
on
the
last
decade,
plus
a
fiscal
responsibility
that
we've
brought
to
the
city.
It's
a
structurally
balanced
budget.
H
It
incorporates
the
parks
and
streets
funding
that
we
agreed
on
as
as
me
as
the
mayor
and
the
City
Council
and
the
parks
it
stabilizes
brings
some
stability
to
the
general
fund
through
the
creation
of
the
downtown
assets
fund.
It
incorporates
the
request
of
the
Minneapolis
Park
and
Recreation
Board
for
the
fourth
straight
year.
H
This
budget
also
incorporates
2.6
million
dollars
worth
of
cuts
and
this
levy
and
this
maximum
levy
does
build
the
base
upon
which
the
rest
of
the
parks
and
streets
plan
is
built
for
the
next
18
19
years,
and
so
it's
important
that
we
get
the
maximum
levy
here
today,
so
that
we
can
keep
with
the
plan
that
we
have
for
the
parks
and
streets
investment
plan.
And
the
only
question
before
us
today
is
the
maximum
levy.
H
As
the
ve
T
now
and
I
asked
everybody
and
I
can
ask
people
to
support
what
is
what
is
before
us
and
what
I
put
forward.
But
I
also
know
that.
There's
been
a
lot
of
conversation
about
the
timing
of
my
budget
presentation
and
the
impact
that
that
had
on
the
board
of
estimate,
taxation
and
the
court
ruled
in
my
favor.
H
Nobody
should
pretend
to
be
surprised
by
this,
because
that
authority
does
not
just
exist
on
paper.
All
three
of
the
recent
mayor's
mayor
sells
Belton
Mayor,
Rybak
and
I
have
exercised
that
authority
and
mayor's
have
always
had
at
this
flexibility
and
here's
a
piece
of
information
it
has.
This
Authority
has
been
used
11
times
in
the
last
24
years.
H
A
C
J
C
C
J
J
C
C
You
know
including
library,
death
and,
as
that
goes
away,
and
that
that
kind
of
thing
but
I
mean
it
would
be
the
case
that
we
could,
instead
of
increasing
the
levy
to
account
for
the
increased
park
board
spending,
we
could
choose
to
use
one
time
it
would
just
put
us
at
what
would
it
do
to
us
going
forward?
Then,
if
that
was
if
we
chose
to
do
that,
sure.
J
C
J
J
A
couple
of
other
things
and
I
think
is
related
to
the
testimony.
To
is
what
I
would
just
like
to
remind
the
council.
I'm
sorry,
though,
or
it
is,
was
brought
up
in
a
presentation
that
I
made
at
the
previous
meeting
that
a
function
of
property
tax
increases
is
not
just
related
to
city
spending,
but
also
the
state
aides
that
we've
received.
And
if
you
recall
the
chart
that
I
presented
in
2002.
I
F
J
C
J
The
state
clearly
hasn't
kept
up
with
inflation
on
how
much
they
write
down
property
taxes,
and
so
I
would
just
remind
the
audience
that
certainly
not
to
take
away
from
the
testimony,
because
clearly
costs
are
going
up
and
people
have
to
pay
more
for
those
costs.
And
many
of
us
don't
like
to
do
that.
But
at
the
same
time
there
is
some.
J
Be
shared
with
our
our
friends
at
the
state
in
terms
of
those
LGA
levels
and
the
second
comment
in
it
that
I
think
I've
made
it
every
public
meeting
I've
been
at,
which
is
we
know
as
a
staff,
and
we
all
know
personally,
people
who
have
burdens
and
paying
property
taxes.
It's
not
just
about
the
increase,
but
it's
the
raw
number
that
people
have
to
pay
and
just
a
reminder
that
the
state
of
Minnesota
does
have
a
rebate
program.
It
is
both
for
renters
and
homeowners.
J
F
B
E
I
think
many
of
the
much
of
the
park
board
funding
is
going
to
come
through
bonding,
so
I,
don't
know
how
much
of
an
effect
that
you
we
actually
see
in
the
in
the
annual
operating
budget
and
I
think
that
the
park
board
requested
increase.
Tisha
was
at
four
point
one
percent
Julie
four-foot
one
in
total.
Oh
I,
really.
E
D
E
We
did
have
a
significant
increase
last
year,
that's
already
built
into
the
base
when
we
did
do
the
increase
for
excuse
me,
the
maintenance,
and
that
we
did
that
was
sort
of
as
a
one-time
line
item
so
moving
forward.
We
are
sort
of
back
to
a
normal
amount
and,
and
frankly,
a
lot
of
the
increase
you
know
has
to
do
with
with
costs
like
minimum
wage
increases
health
insurance
that
that
continued
I
think
to
plague
all
of
us.
E
You
know
all
of
our
organizations
in
ways
that
we
never
would
have
suspected
20
years
ago,
and,
and
it
is
it's
a
real
challenge
to
deal
with
those
kinds
of
increase
in
costs.
I
do
think
in
the
last
even
eight
years,
the
increases
that
I
have
seen
come
through
have
generally
been
considerably
lower
than
I
did
prior
to
that
and
I
think
we've
tried
to
keep
those
down,
but
property
taxes
are
incredibly
difficult
to
predict
because,
as
I
think
mr.
E
E
That
have
caused
the
property
taxes
to
increase
I.
Think
one
of
the
things
that
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
city
we
do
is
have
continued
to
have
growth
in
our
city
and
that
helps
us
to
spread
the
burden
among
more
people
and
hopefully
we'll
keep
our
property
taxes
down
over
the
longer
term.
But
it
is
it's
a
it's
a
very
complicated
issue,
much
more
complicated
than
I
had
ever
thought
and
when
I
started
getting
into
it,
it
gave
me
headaches
so
I.
C
You
in
you
know,
I
appreciate
mr.
rough,
given
the
real
number
of
what
our
local
government
need
was,
but
I
I've
been
on
council
20
years
when
I
first
came
on
the
council,
we
received
more
of
our
general
fund
budget
from
state
aids
than
we
actually
levied
in
property
tax.
Something
was
amazing.
There's
been
an
amazing
turnabout
in
your
point
about
the
move
from
commercial
industrial
to
residential
exacerbated
that
problem,
and
we
did
have
many
years
where
we
had
to
have
a
8%
in
property
tax
increase.
That
was
our
policy
council
member
Hodges.
E
C
So
it's
a
real
challenge.
It's
a
real
challenge,
but
we
have
increasing
costs.
Every
year's
commission
cap
pointed
out
our
employee
costs,
go
up.
Health
care
costs,
go
up,
everything
we
buy
cost
more
every
year
and
it's
it
is
a
challenge.
It
is
a
challenge,
but
I
think
we've
been
responsible.
I
will
say.
A
Just
a
quick
word,
I
know
the
the
gentleman
who
testified
to
us,
which
we
really
appreciate,
had
a
question
and
I'm
willing
and
I'm
sure
other
people
are
willing
to
stay
afterwards
and
and
and
entertain
those
conversations
with
you.
Thank
you
for
your
hanging
in
there
with
us.
Mr.
ruff,
did
you
have
something
something
more
you'd
like
to
say
mr.
J
President
I
think
I,
don't
think
I
fully
answered
the
council
president's
question,
because
I
think
I
was
thinking
more
operating
cost
rather
than
capital
costs,
and
so,
when
that
comes,
the
president
was
asking
if
we
reduced
the
bond
amount
that
we
were
to
issue
with
one-time
costs.
In
other
words,
if
we
make
it
right,
pay
cash
instead
of
issuing
debt.
What
would
that
do
to
save
us
in
terms
of
property
taxes?
Next
year
and
within
the
parks
and
streets?
J
We
set
up
the
capital
debt
service
over
a
10-year
period,
and
so
we
have
to
think
about
the
fact
that
then
we
would
at
least
for
next
year
not
have
that
service
payment
associated
with
that
and
that's
just
under
a
million
dollars.
So
the
property
tax
increase
in
that
particular
situation
then
could
go
down
by
essentially
one
third
of
one
percent.
So
if
you
go
from
five
point,
five
percent
down
to
five
point:
two
percent:
if
we
were
to
make
a
choice
of
paying
cash
instead,.
F
G
Want
to
clarify
some
of
the
comments
that
the
mayor
made.
One
comment
the
mayor
made
was
that
she
had
delayed
releasing
the
budget.
The
argument
that
the
mayor
made
was
that
the
seven
tables
that
were
scattered
within
the
eight
pages
speech
that
she
gave
constituted
the
full
budget
and
the
argument
that
she
made
before
the
judge
was
that,
in
fact
that
met
all
the
legal
requirements
and
she
is
under
no
compunction
to
produce
anything
last
else.
A
Me
for
just
as
I
am
hi
I'm,
not
so
sure
that
this
process
is
particularly
helpful
to
setting
the
property
tax
levy,
which
is
the
piece
that
is
before
us
right
now
and
I
understand.
There's
some
animus
around
this
issue,
but
I.
It
feels
to
me
like
it's
time,
to
sort
of
move
beyond
the
past
and
to
work
on
setting
the
property
tax
levy.
It's
a
personal
comment,
but
I.
That's
that's
how
I'm
feeling
at
present
so.
G
Judge
very
very
Vasily
said.
Nonetheless,
the
court
agrees
with
miss
Becker
that
a
recommended
budget
that
does
more
than
meet
the
bare
minimum
requirements
of
the
Charter
would
be
a
much
more
useful
document.
The
recommended
budget
provided
on
August
15th
serves
as
a
foundation
for
further
budget
discussions
and
negotiations
by
providing
a
recommended
budget.
The
mayor
is
the
privilege
and
duty
of
leading
the
city
by
setting
financial
priorities
that
support
her
considered
objectives.
G
The
board
of
estimate,
City,
Council
and
taxpayers
should
be
given
the
full
advantage
of
her
leadership,
as
well
as
a
meaningful
opportunity
for
input
providing
the
minimum
information
required
on
August
15th
and
later
supplementing.
It
is
not
a
process
that
allows
city
officials
and
the
public
a
full
opportunity
to
contribute
their
expertise
and
raise
their
concerns
about
the
recommended
budget.
Such
a
procedure
compresses
the
time
available
to
those
like
Miss
Becker,
who
need
to
study
pertinent
information
before
they
take
the
next
step
in
the
process.
G
It
also
disadvantages
those
in
the
public
who
would
add
value
to
the
process
by
contributing
to
a
full
discussion
of
all
aspects
of
the
budget,
including
the
details.
The
result
is
to
diminish
the
quality
of
the
ultimate
product
and
a
comprehensive
city
budget,
which
is,
of
course,
vitally
important
for
the
city.
As
Miss
Becker
says,
a
budget
is
the
most
critical
policy
statement
that
any
governmental
organization
makes
the
more
detailed
and
thoughtful
the
budget
recommended
on
August
I
mean
the
more
likely
it
is.
G
G
Thank
you
for
the
two
folks
that
did
come
and
I
believe
we
would
have
had
more
people
if
we
had
had
more
robust
information.
Having
had
some
time
to
review
the
budget,
it
looks
to
me,
like
it's
a
Christmas
list
for
just
about
every
special
interest
group,
we're
looking
at
15%
of
our
homeowners,
seeing
a
10%
or
more
increase
I'm.
Sorry,
30%
of
our
homeowners,
seeing
a
10%
or
more
increase
10%
of
our
home,
we're
seeing
a
15%
or
more
increase,
plus
franchise
fees,
increases,
plus
utility
fee
increases.
G
At
a
time
when
our
city
is
booming,
our
economy
is
growing,
a
population
is
growing
and
we
are
making
the
city
unaffordable
to
live
in.
This
is
way
above
inflation.
This
is
way
above
our
wage
increases.
I
have
had
the
same
wage
increase
experiences
you,
sir
and
I,
get
it
I
will
not
be
voting
YES
on
this
I.
Don't
think
that
this
has
been
a
good
process
for
democracy.
I
think
that
these
tax
increases
make
it
increasingly
hard
for
people
who
live
in
the
city.
G
I
think
we
deserve
better
I
would
also
say
to
the
mayor.
This
is
not
personal.
This
is
about
what
the
process
should
be
is
about
a
strong
democracy,
and
it's
about
doing
what's
right.
They
have
no
personal
animosity
to
you.
I
know
that
your
staff
have
attacked
me.
I've
read
what
you've
written
about
me.
They
have
not
written
anything
like
that
back
about
you,
but
I
do
think
that
this
is
not
serving
our
city
well
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
people
in
our
community
to
make
a
better
process.
Thank
you.
F
A
E
Just
want
to
make
sure
everyone
realizes
that
we
are
setting
a
maximum
property
tax
increase.
That's
what
the
board
does.
I
have
in
fact
seen
the
City
Council
after
having
passed
a
maximum
increase,
actually
lower
it
so
there.
So,
as
the
city
goes
through
the
process
of
looking
at
what
the
budget
looks
like
and
trying
to
agree
amongst
all
of
them
there.
There
is
always
the
opportunity
to
do
that
again.
E
I
know
that
when,
when
we
did
our
budget-
and
we
looked
at
sort
of
what
we
were
doing
today
and
just
sort
of
keeping
everything
level,
we
were
sort
of
like
in
the
hole
by
about
two
million
dollars.
I
can't
remember
the
exact
number
Julie,
but
just
just
to
stay,
even
with
what
you're
doing
very
often
is
incredibly
expensive.
So
unless
you
begin
to
lower
some
of
the
service
levels,
we
are
I
know
from
a
park
board
perspective,
we're
looking
at
an
increase
and,
and
that
sort
of
just
just
sort
of
keep
things
level.
E
A
H
You
very
much
mr.
chair
in
first
on
the
maximum
levy.
I
appreciate
Commissioner
Tabs
comments
on
president
haves
comments
on
the
role
that
the
be
et
is
playing
here
to
vote
on
a
maximum
property
tax
levy,
not
the
budget
as
a
whole
and
also
on
the
you
know,
the
costs
of
current
service
level
and
inflation,
which
are
covered
here
in
a
proposed
maximum
tax
levy,
along
with
the
costs
of
our
parks
and
streets
agreement,
as
we
agreed
to
as
a
city
and
as
parks
last
year.
H
Regarding
the
budget,
the
court
essentially
said
that
it
would
be
better
for
a
mayor
to
present
a
full
budget
on
August,
15th
and
I.
Agree,
of
course,
which
is
why
I
did
so
my
first
three
years
as
ms
becker
pointed
out
in
court
and
why
I
presented
my
full
budget
two
weeks
ago
with
months
remaining
for
consideration
by
the
city
council
and
the
public.
H
It
would
also
have
been
better
if
we
had
not
had
to
major
public
safety
crises
over
a
period
of
three
weeks
during
the
time
that
I
typically
make
final
budget
decisions,
so
I
applied
common
sense
and
use
the
flexibility.
At
my
disposal
to
meet
both
the
requirements
of
the
Charter
and
the
urgent
needs
of
our
residents,
I.
F
Thank
You.
Mr.
president,
I
just
wanted
to
speak
in
favor
of
the
motion
to
adopt
the
resolution
on
setting
the
maximum
levy
at
five
point.
Five
percent
I
do
so
with
the
understanding
that
was
consistent
with
the
financial
projections
that
we
voted
on
in
the
last
budget,
because
one
of
the
advantages
of
having
a
priority
based
budget
with
a
five-year
projection
as
possible
makes
that
a
real
thing
that
we've
already
taken
a
vote
on
and
I'm
pleased
to
see
that
this
budget
stays
in
line
with
the
anticipated
levy.
F
F
It's
a
combination
of
the
of
the
park
board
levy,
as
well
as
the
city
operations,
net
debt
bond
levy,
what
we're
doing
with
the
municipal
building
commission
various
retirement
funds.
These
are
all
well
well
constructed
structurally
balanced
budgets
and
I
believe
that
this
levy
accommodates
those
requirements
as
effectively
as
possible
and
I'd.
Also
like
to
point
out
when
we
were
talking
about
in
the
not-too-distant
past,
when
we
were
looking
at
8.8
levy
adoptions,
the
feels-like
factor
was
much
more
significant
to
the
individual
resident,
especially
in
my
neighborhoods
in
south
Minneapolis.
F
We
were
experiencing
a
feels
like
experience
of
double
digits
in
terms
of
closer
to
20%
and
that's
that
what
we're
seeing
now
is
that
that,
with
the
growth
of
growth
and
population
and
with
the
growth
of
new
proximal
properties
as
a
development
is,
for
example,
we've
had
six
consecutive
years
of
over
a
billion
dollars
of
permits
old,
that's
adding
to
our
tax
base.
That's
sharing
the
verdant
much
more
widely
much
more
evenly
and
makes
it
a
feels
like
factor
that
is
much
more
tolerable.
It's
no
fun
to
pay
taxes.
F
Nobody
wishes
to
do
that
and
I'm
anxious
to
talk
to
fellow
council
members,
as
we
take
up
the
budget
to
see
if
we
can
make
changes
within
the
structurally
balanced
budget
to
accommodate
that,
but
I
believe
firmly
that
the
financial
projections
that
called
for
a
five
point,
five
percent
levy
increase
in
the
out
years
and
it's
consistent
with
this
year's
budget,
recommended
budget
I'm
going
to
be
supporting
the
levy
adoption
as
the
mode.
The
motion
that's
in
front
of
us.
A
G
Want
to
clarify
a
couple
points:
when
we
talk
about
current
service
level,
I
went
and
looked
back.
We
went
the
budget,
that's
as
proposed
increases
the
FTE.
That's
number
of
people
working
for
the
city
to
its
highest
level,
since
at
least
2001
I
didn't
go
earlier
than
that.
So
this
is
not
a
current
service
level.
This
is
an
expansion
budget.
G
C
F
J
J
D
A
E
B
B
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
point
out
was
the
mayor's
proposed
budget.
The
tax
capacity
rate
decreases
four
point
two
percent,
but
it's
a
task
capacity
rate
decrease
of
4.2%.
What
that
means
is
if
her
home
is
under
five
hundred
thousand
hours,
he
have
to
have
a
value
increase
in
excess
of
two
and
a
half
percent.
They
even
see
any
increase
in
your
taxes.
B
Now,
as
we
know,
most
homeowners,
their
home
is
their
best
asset.
They
have
the
most
important
asset,
the
most
valuable
asset
yep,
it's
so
in
the
way,
it's
somewhat
counterintuitive.
If
you
see
your
asset,
increasing
that
you're,
not
you
know
paying
the
price
to
see
that
increase.
I
mean
what
that's
the
way
taxes
work.
I
mean.
E
F
You,
mr.
president,
I
am
was
I
know,
that's
it's
awfully
difficult
to
do
on
the
back
of
your
napkin
there.
Mr.
rough,
but
I
was
wondering
as
we're
considering
a
the
idea
of
lowering
the
levy
amount
this
year.
I
understand
that
the
implications
in
out
years
would
be
to
fill
that
hole.
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
estimate
what
the
financial
projections
would
be
in
the
out
years
if
we
were
to
adopt
the
wizard
five
point:
two
five
point:
three
that
was
made
in
the
substitute
motion
by
a
council
president.
J
Mr.
president,
council
member
Quincy,
there
would
be
an
impact
estimating
that
would
be
difficult,
but,
as
we
have
described
before,
parks
and
streets
agreement
is
not
just
a
one-time
agreement,
an
increase.
There
is
an
assumption
that
there
will
be
approximately
0.6
2.7
percent
increase
in
the
levy
every
year
to
accommodate
the
additional
capital
spending,
and
that
was
a
longer
than
10
year.
Assumption
so
number
one
I
was
my
assumption
was.
J
Is
that
question
raised
by
the
council
president
was
that
this
is
not
taking
funds
from
a
from
fund
balance,
for
example
our
general
fund
balance,
but
was
a
replacement
of,
for
example,
the
one-time
spending,
so
I
just
want
to
caution
that
if
it
were,
if
it
were
to
take
money
from
fund
balances
and
still
have
the
same
level
of
one-time
spending,
then
that
would
be
an
additional
burden
upon
the
city.
So
I
don't
mean
to
be
evasive.
It's
a
question,
that's
being
raised
and
I
just
don't
feel
comfortable
doing
math
on
my
feet.
J
F
J
A
H
You
and
I'm
gonna
speak
against
this
motion
that
the
substitute,
because
this
would,
in
effect
create
a
structurally
imbalance
to
things,
create
a
structurally
imbalanced
budget
that
is
not
sustainable
over
the
long
haul
that
would
at
or
it
would
eliminate
one-time
funding
for
some
key
departmental
priorities,
including
spending
in
the
clerk's
office,
including
spending
in
the
police
department,
Fire
Department
equipment.
All
kinds
of
things
would
be
jeopardized.
H
If
we
use
the
all
the
one-time
funding
for
this,
or
else
it
would
create
a
structurally
imbalanced
budget
and
either
way
it
would
create
significantly
higher
pressure
on
the
property
tax
levy
in
out
years.
Because
of
the
way
we
structured
this
plan
for
parks
and
streets
because
of
the
way
we've
structured
it,
it
would
because
the
base
of
our
levy
wouldn't
be
as
high
this
year.
H
It
would
also
create
significant
pressures
on
the
property
in
future
years.
When
and
we
don't
know
how
our
growth
is
going
to
go
in
future
years,
but
we
know
that
the
growth
is
is
strong
now
and
that
an
increase
now
is
actually,
as
councilmember
Quincy
pointed
out,
spread
across
more
properties
and
higher
property
tax
values.
H
I
would
also
note
that
if
council
President
Johnson
did
want
to
make
changes,
she
has
the
authority
through
the
council
to
work
to
make
those
changes
in
December
giving
weeks
and
actually,
at
this
point
months
to
vet
through
some
of
the
proposed
changes
that
she
wanted
to
make
in
the
long
term
impact
and
the
structural
impact
on
the
budget.
So
I'd
say
I
just
speak
against
this
motion
tonight.
It's
a
precipitous
action
that
could
have
devastating
consequences
on
our
services
or
departments,
the
structural
balance
of
our
budget
and
our
future
property
tax.
E
Thank
you,
my
honest
preference
would
be
for
us
to
pass
the
5.5
and
let
City
Council
really
work
through
scrubbing
the
budget
themselves.
I
know
that
makes
it
very
difficult
and
it
puts
a
lot
of
pressure
on
council,
but
I
do
always
have
some
concern
about
making
changes
when
some
assumptions
have
been
made
up
here,
sort
of
at
the
last
minute,
because
I
don't
because
I
would
I
know
that
the
council
hasn't
had
a
chance
to
go
through
sort
of
in
a
lot
of
detail.
A
Is
there
further
discussion
on
the
on
the
motion
that
is
before
us
at
substitute
motion?
There
is
no
further
discussion
than
Jack.
Would
you
a
roll
call
vote
please?
But
if
you
vote
no
thank
you.
Yes,
if
you
vote
no
it
snow
for
the
substitute
you
vote.
Yes,
it's
in
favor
of
the
substitute
mayor,
Hodges.
E
A
D
G
A
Well,
at
long
last,
I'll
say
a
few
words
Churchill
said
be
brief,
be
witty
had
be
seated
I'm
already
seated
so
I'll
see
if
I
can
do
one
or
two
of
the
others.
First
of
all,
I
think
that
by
setting
the
maximum
property
tax
levy
at
what
has
been
requested,
what
has
been
part
of
the
long-range
plan
is
sensible
and
prudent.
A
It
is
more
than
I'm
comfortable
with.
On
the
other
hand,
it
will
give
the
public
and
the
elected
officials
who
make
the
final
decisions
on
it.
The
opportunity
to
I
heard
the
word
scrub,
but
you
know
to
take
a
close
look
at
it
and
do
what
needs
to
happen
to
to
make
it
make
it
better.
I
I
think,
as
I
have
read
and
understood
the
budget
and
I
can't.
F
A
To
do
it
as
well
as
every
person
who's
been
working
on
it,
I
think
it
is
prudent
and
progressive
budget.
It
set
some
very
good
priorities
for
our
city.
I
am
continuing
to
be
absolutely
amazed
and
delighted
at
the
quality
of
the
staff
who
worked
on
this
and
who
diligently
put
in
lots
of
hours
and
listen
well
and
respond
to
requests
and
crafted
I.
A
Think
a
pretty
good
budget
and
you're
going
to
be
busy
in
the
next
few
months
doing
the
rest
of
the
stuff,
as
will
the
elected
officials
who
sit
here
in
the
City
Council
I'm
pleased
that
our
city
is
growing
economically
I
think
we
need
to
help,
have
others
pay
for
the
cost.
The
city
of
Minneapolis
I
have
long
felt
that
we
are
the
economic
engine
of
the
state
of
Minnesota.
A
We
pay
far
more
in
taxes
and
supporters
date
than
we
get
back
and
support,
and
everybody
from
the
from
the
surrounding
area
comes
in
and
makes
use
of
all
the
amenities
that
we,
as
the
taxpayers,
pay
for
and
and
I
I.
Think
at
some
point
there
may
be
some
opportunities
to
to
redress
that
and
I
do
think
that
the
state
needs
to
step
up
and
say
yes,
we're
grateful
for
what
you've
done
and
they
need
to
increase
their
local
government
aid.
I
mean
I.