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Description
Minneapolis Transportation & Public Works Committee Meeting
A
Good
morning,
this
is
the
regularly
scheduled
meeting
of
the
transportation
of
Public
Works
Committee
of
the
city
of
Minneapolis.
This
day,
September
26
2017
I'm
councilmember
Reich
I
chair
the
committee
I'm
joined
by
my
colleagues
at
councillors,
yang
Palmisano,
bender
and
Gordon.
We
will
proceed
with
today's
agenda
as
we
have
10
items
all
around
consent,
except
for
our
one
public
hearing
I'll
go
through
the
consent
items
any
community
member
can
pull
them
for
further
consideration.
A
Starting
with
item
number
two
gift:
acceptance
from
Florida
International
University
for
payment
of
travel
related
expenses.
Item
three:
is
the
zombie
pub
crawl
block
event
permit
for
October
14th
2017.
It
should
be
noted
that
we
have
the
number
one
zombie
crawl
in
the
nation
and
Public
Works
is
here
to
support
that
item
for
his
Hiawatha
Trail
gap.
Layout
approval
in
easements
item
five
is
the
agreement
with
Mississippi
watershed
organization
for
modeling
in
the
East
watershed
item?
Six
is
a
contract
amendment
with
keys
well
drilling
for
the
tenth
Avenue
storm
tunnel
project
item:
seven.
A
As
the
non
governmental
tax
exempt
parcels
streetlight
operation
fee
assessment,
there
will
be
a
public
hearing
for
that.
November
13
2017
animate
is
non
governmental
taxes
and
parcel
Street
maintenance
assessment.
Also
November
13
2017
public
hearing
item
9
is
a
bid
for
removal
of
snow
and
ice
from
public
sidewalks.
That's
a
little
response
with
bid
item.
10
is
the
bid
for
the
tenth
Avenue
storm
tunnel
repairs
and
that's
also
acceptance
of
a
little
responsive
bid.
Any
further
discussion
on
the
items
on
consent
come
summer
garden,
I
just.
B
Wanted
to
make
a
comment,
an
item
number
four.
Well,
please
do
it
good.
This
is
a
Hiawatha
trail
gap
proposal
and
I'm
very
supportive
of
finishing
this
or
filling
in
this
gap.
This
is
a
little
bit
of
the
bike
trail
and
even
pedestrian
access.
It
goes
along
the
I
want
that
line
in
highway
55.
There
goes
under
the
lake
Street
bridge
I.
B
Think
it's
great
that
we're
doing
this
and
the
design
looks
good
and
the
greening
and
the
lighting,
but
it
calls
out
a
problem
that
still
remains,
which
is
what
are
we
doing
underneath
that
bridge?
There's
a
real
problem
area
in
the
city
there,
where
the
light
rail
and
highway
55
goes
up
over
Lake
Street
and
there's
a
cavern,
a
dark,
dismal
cavern
down
there
and
closing
the
gap
doesn't
really
improve
the
crossing
for
pedestrians
or
for
bikes.
B
Underneath
there
I
just
want
to
call
out
the
down
I
think
the
county
did
an
extensive
plan
about
how
to
make
improvements
back
in
2015
I.
Think
our
committee
even
had
a
presentation
about
what
we
could
do
to
make
that
area
better
and
then
those
that
presentation
and
that
study
has
been
sitting
somewhere
not
going
anywhere
in
the
neighborhood
that
people
around
there
are
wondering.
When
are
we
going
to
improve
this
terrible
place
in
our
city?
B
I
know
that
it's
a
County,
Road
I
know
that
it's
complicated,
but
now
we
have
it
compounded,
because
all
the
shelter
that's
provided
there
and
kind
of
in
the
dark
area
under
there
is
now
provided
a
great
place
for
people
to
live,
who
are
homeless
and
we
have
that
problem
as
well.
So
let's
keep
keep
in
mind
the
ideas
that
we
had
an
account.
He
brought
forward
through
their
study
about
how
to
improve
it
and,
as
we
put
in
this
trail,
hopefully
it's
just
a
first
step
towards.
B
We
can
make
other
improvements
and
amenities
there
and
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
alert,
Public,
Works
staff
and
also
committee
members
that
this
is
kind
of
a
big
deal.
It's
in
Ward
9,
but
it's
about
two
blocks
form
or
two
and
I'm
gonna,
try
to
get
a
little
more
engaged
in
at
least
and
see
if
we
can
make
a
bigger
difference
in
just
this
fabulous
trail.
Cam
Thanks
thank.
A
C
D
Mr.
chair
council
members,
my
name
is
Andrew
Carlson
I
am
the
project
manager
for
special
service
districts,
it's
good
to
be
before
you
again
today.
You
recall,
we
were
here
at
the
last
meeting
to
present
are
what
we
refer
to
as
our
428
a
districts
428
a
refers
to
the
statutory
way
in
which
it
is
codified.
These
are
our
non
428,
a
districts
or
also
referred
to
as
our
legacy
districts.
D
These
service
charges
would
be
collected
on
their
2018
real
estate
taxes
in
the
same
manner
as
special
assessments.
Each
affected
property
owner
was
mailed.
A
notice
of
public
hearing
with
the
service
charge
amount
10
days
in
advance
of
this
public
hearing
staff
therefore
recommends
the
following
passage
of
a
resolution,
including
special
services
and
the
budget
cost
estimates
of
1
million
290
$1,700
service
charges
and
the
list
of
service
charges
at
1
million
two
hundred
and
thirty
three
thousand
four
hundred
eighty
one
dollars
and
directing
the
city
engineer
to
proceed
with
the
work.
A
Any
questions,
further
staff
presentation,
Gordon
no
seen
done
I-
will
then
open
the
public
hearing
its
public
hearing
for
item
number
one
special
service
districts.
Anyone
wish
to
come
forward.
I
do
have
someone
on
a
sign-up
list
and
we'll
start
there.
Nick
Merlot.
Please
come
forward
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
E
Good
morning,
the
first
time
I
ever
spoken
when
you
folks
I've,
been
here
for
a
long
time
around
your
council,
I'm,
just
gonna,
read
off
and
I
gave
you
guys
all
a
packet.
It
might
be
easier
if
you
can
follow
along
dear
council
persons.
My
family
owns
a
property
in
2400
to
24:14
Hennepin
Avenue
South.
We
have
owned
it
for
nearly
75
years.
It's
the
first
time.
I
can
call
wife
where
we
have
objected
in
the
committee
forum
I'm
here
today
to
object.
E
E
Additionally,
Boulevard
maintenance,
specifically
grass
between
the
sidewalk
and
the
curb,
is
confined
a
limited
number
of
properties
in
this
special
service
district
and
thus
serves
to
enrich
the
specific
private
properties
at
the
expense
of
the
entire
district.
Referring
to
statue
for
28.0,
to
quote
the
fact
that
neither
the
landowners
property
nor
its
use
is
benefited
benefited
by
the
proposed
special
service
district.
Lastly,
the
25%
increase
is
excessive.
The
proposed
Boulevard
maintenance
cost
for
2018
is
$75,000.
The
2017
budget
item
for
Boulevard
maintenance
was
fifty-seven
thousand
dollars
in
2004.
The
boulevard
budget
was
eleven
thousand
dollars.
E
The
budget
has
increased
since
2004
over
700
percent.
This
special
service
district
cannot
make
grass
grow
consistently
between
the
sidewalk
and
the
curb
on
Hennepin
Avenue.
We
believe
this
is
fiscally
irresponsible.
An
option
is
the
few
property
owners
who
out
Boulevard
grass
mow
their
own
or
mulch
as
they
did
prior
to
2004.
This
will
save
seventy
five
thousand
dollars
in
2018,
not
to
mention
the
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars.
It
has
cost
the
property
owners
over
the
last
13
years
I.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
E
I
would
hope
that
this
committee
would
also
see
the
necessity
of
my
family
being
here
today.
Thank
you
and
I
have
some
stuff
stapled
on
the
back
that
talks
about
the
budgets
and
and
I
refer
to
the
codes
that
I
looked
up
through
the
city
charter
and
also
the
statue
Charter
on
page
three
and
then
it
talks
about
the
actual
budget.
Going
back.
I
had
four
copies
from
28th,
20:17
and
I
believe
2011
in
2004.
A
F
A
E
A
Before
you
in
case
there's
other
people
who
want
to
talk,
then
you
can
knock
them
all
out
at
once.
I
don't
see
anyone
else
signed
up
other
than
mr.
Grillo.
Does
anyone
else
wish
to
come
forward?
Anyone
we
should
come
forward.
Seen
none
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
ask
staff
to
come
forward
to
address
issues
raised.
D
Mr.
chair
accounts
members
again,
Andrew
Karsen,
Minneapolis
Public
Works
project
managers
for
special
service
district
did
have
a
nice
conversation
with
mr.
Barlow
before
today's
public
hearing
and
also
and
received
of
his
letter
objection
as
he
as
he
mentioned.
The
there
is
a
substantial
increase
with
the
landscape
means
specifically
with
the
turf
maintenance
and
it
is.
It
is
an
area
within
the
budget
that
the
board
has
deemed
worthy
of
investments
such
as
of
within
that
Boulevard.
As
you
can
imagine,
you've
got
street
parking.
D
You
have
a
a
narrow
strip
of
turf
that
adds
to
the
character
and
livability
within
that
district
is
something
that's
highly
valued
by
by
the
board,
as
well
as
other
ratepayers
and
there's
a
cost
in
terms
of
maintaining
that
as
mr.
Barlow
and
I
discussed,
the
idea
is
that,
with
with
a
real
focus
on
maintaining
it,
hopefully
that
cost
will
come
down.
Grass
does
come
back
every
spring.
If
we
can
keep
that
in
place,
keep
it
watered
then.
Hopefully
the
replacement
costs
or
will
be
reduced
should
also
mention
there.
D
Other
alternatives
that
have
been
discussed
by
the
board
in
terms
of
some
pervious
pavement
type
of
materials
that
come
in
use
and
have
been
tested
and
piloted
throughout
the
district.
So
this
issue
is
not
lost
on
the
Advisory
Board
or
the
ratepayers
or
the
city
for
that
matter,
as
we
try
to
find
in
a
way
innovative
ways
in
terms
of
maintaining
that
that
aesthetic,
but
at
the
same
time,
keeping
costs
within
budget.
So.
D
A
B
D
Chair
council
member
Gordon,
there
was
an
open
house
held,
as
there
is
every
year
in
advance
of
the
public
hearing
to
allow
for
folks
that,
once
they
have
received
their
public
notice
as
well
as
so
the
materials
that
mr.
Birla
was
referring
to
were
the
materials
that
were
provided
to
all
the
ratepayers
so
he's
speaking
specifically
to
materials
that
were
brought.
But
they
were
brought
to
his
attention
through
staff.
So
that
information
that
then,
through
that
open
house
that
opportunity
to
attend,
was
unable
to
attend
that
open
house.
D
B
So
I
guess
I'm
just
a
little
bit
wonder
about
the
process,
so
I
believe
the
Advisory
Committee
reviews
the
budget
and
comes
forward
with
the
recommended
budget
that
we're
just
kind
of
approving
and
typically
we
don't
amande
or
switch
their
budget
very
much
I.
Don't
know
that
in
my
12
years,
I've
ever
seen
us
change
the
budget.
B
D
Chair
customer
reporting
very
good
question
in
terms
of
process.
Special
service
districts
are
a
true
public-private
partnership
and
that's
what
has
made
them
successful
over
the
decades
throughout
the
city
is
developing
that
trust
within
the
city
as
well
as
within
the
business
community.
So
yes,
while
the
board
does
recommend
a
budget
which
is
brought
forward
to
the
City
Council
into
the
committee
for
approval,
there
is
numerous
opportunities
for
input
into
that
budget.
D
In
addition
to
that,
we
are
extremely
mindful
that
we
are
using
the
city's
tax
authority
to
collect
those
dollars
and
those
100%
of
those
dollars
are
spent
within
the
districts.
So
as
as
you
peruse
through
the
different
budgets,
you'll
see
that
every
district
is
different.
They
all
prioritize
and
value
different
services,
so
no
special
service
district
is
is
the
same
partly
based
on
their
geography
and
the
makeup
of
the
district,
but
also
the
businesses
that
are
within
them.
D
So
yes,
through
our
open
meeting
process
through
our
open
house
process
and
advance
the
budget
plus
just
ratepayer
engagements,
which
we
take
very
seriously,
there's
numerous
opportunities
on
a
daily
basis
in
which
to
express
those
concerns
in
terms
of
not
only
the
type
of
services
but
how
those
services
are
delivered.
I.
B
Guess,
from
my
perspective,
I'm
a
little
reluctant
to
be
not
I'll
say
that
the
packet
is
great.
It's
a
very
useful
information.
It
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
but
it's
difficult
to
hear
the
other
perspective
why
they
set
the
budget
and
there's
also
my
sense
that
I
have
I,
really
appreciate
the
volunteers
who
are
on
the
advisory
committees
coming
forward
with
the
budget
and
I.
B
F
F
It's
not
in
the
capital
budget,
it's
so
further
out
than
that,
but
I
know
this
has
been
an
ongoing
issue
that
this
Boulevard
and
there's
been
grass
and
artificial,
turf
and
I
just
feel
like
continuing
to
ask
the
business
owners
here
to
pay
for
solutions
that
aren't
working
over
and
over
over
again
in
the
public
right-of-way.
Maybe
isn't
us
being
our
best
partner
on
the
public
side
and
is
there
something
more
that
we
can
do?
D
D
Obviously,
in
older
streets,
that's
been
a
while,
since
it's
seen
a
new
streetscape
proposal,
other
parts
of
the
city
where
we
have
now
implemented
our
larger
planting
beds
within
the
sidewalk.
We
have
service
districts
in
particular,
most
recent
examples
at
54th
and
lyndale,
where
you
have
the
larger
landscaping
beds,
which
lends
itself
to
the
health
and
survivability
of
the
trees
and
plantings
within
them,
also
allows
for
easier
maintenance
and
cost
savings
on
the
part
of
the
service
district
there
as
well.
So
we
are
Delta,
we
are
dealt
the
hand
were
dealt
and
we
we
are.
D
We
take
spending
of
taxpayer
dollars
extremely
extremely
seriously
that
we
try
to
bring
to
those
boards
best
practices
that
are
occurring
throughout
our
service
district.
They
are
very
fortunate
to
have
16
active
districts
to
self-manage,
both
the
D
ID,
as
well
as
West,
Broadway
and
other
City
managed
districts.
So
there's
a
sharing
of
ideas.
We
are
always
looking
at
best
practices
within
public
works
as
well,
and
how
to
keep
costs
down
and
how
to
deliver
those
services.
So,
while
we
help
in
advising
and
bringing
those
idea
forward,
that
recommendation
truly
does
come
from
the
board.
C
Mr.
chair
and
members
of
the
committee,
if
I
might
just
provide
a
couple
of
points
of
clarification
here,
Hennepin
Avenue
is
indeed
on
our
radar
and
we
hope
to
make
multiple
improvements
as
that
Street
is
reconstructed.
In
the
meantime,
we
rely
on
our
special
service
districts
to
come
forward
with
the
items
that
they
feel
are
most
important
to
them
and
for
us
to
try
and
make
all
of
those
happen
in
the
best
way
possible,
using
best
practices
in
approving
the
budget.
Today,
you
are
not
foregoing
the
possibility
to
spend
less
on
any
particular
item.
C
You
can
improve
up.
You
approve
a
budget
and
spend
less
than
in
any
particular
item
in
that
budget.
If
the
board
chooses
to
work
with
an
individual
on
new
ideas
or
different
ways
to
implement
so
by
approving
today,
you
are
not
you.
The
the
board
will
still
have
the
opportunity
to
consider
ways
to
reduce
costs
and
implement
different
or
new
kinds
of
ideas.
Now,
if
it
were
something
more
expensive
that
would
you
know,
go
above
the
bots
budget,
it
would
be
a
different
scenario,
but
we
are
looking
at
one
special
service
districts.
C
F
B
I
will
be
indicating
now
that
we
would
want
that
discussion
to
continue
then
with
the
advisory
board.
With
these
concerns,
that's
gonna
be
at
least
if
one
council
member
here
I
thought
I
heard,
counts
member
bender
saying
she
kind
of
shared
it,
but
we
would
like
to
see
this
issue
get
a
little
more
bedding
and
maybe.
A
B
A
I
think
this
issues
come
up
before
and
I
think
staff
has
always
brought
back
that
to
the
committee
and
I
think
this.
This
good
discussion
today
really
reinforces
that
we
do
value
our
special
service
districts.
They
are
self
governed
to
the
extent
that's
legally
possible
and
that
those
meetings
matter
and
so
for
those
who
are
stakeholders
with
issues
concerns
or
an
interest
participate
because
that's
the
direction
that
will
happen.
Mr.
A
so
with
that,
is
there
any
further
discussion
from
the
committee
I
see
none
I'll
move
the
item
as
submitted
noting
the
interest
in
further
conversation,
roams
particular
budgetary
items
that
were
brought
up
today
in
testimony
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
is
empty
name.
That
issue
carries
and
then
I'll
note
on
the
agenda.
We
did
approve
item
regarding
the
watershed
district
and
our
modeling.
C
Mr.
chair
members
of
the
committee,
just
as
an
opening
remark,
this
is
Paul
who
dollies
with
surface
waters
and
sewers
I,
want
to
remind
you
that
together,
you
did
some
good
work
in
approving
just
a
consent
item
a
couple
of
months
ago
that
highlighted
our
partnerships
with
the
Mississippi
watershed
organization.
We
didn't
agree
to
spend
any
money.
We
didn't
agree
to
do
any
particular
projects.
C
What
we
agreed
to
is
to
work
together
for
both
of
our
benefits,
and
this
I
think
is
an
great
opportunity
for
us
to
show
you
how
that's
playing
out
in
a
real
project,
with
some
participation
from
both
parties.
So
Paul's
gonna,
present
to
you
on
this
topic
of
modeling,
which
I'm
sure
he's
going
to
make
very
exciting.
G
So
the
primary
purpose
of
all
this
computer
modeling
work
is
our
flood
mitigation
projects.
So
what
these
computer
models
do?
Is
they
look
at
rainfall
at
varying
intensities
and
we
can
put
in
our
storm
sewer
pipes
through
our
GIS
network
and
the
surface
topography,
and
then
we
can
predict
where
water
levels
are
and
then
we
can
switch
around
pipes
and
the
model
and
see
what
happens.
We
switch
those
around
so
the
primary
purpose
of
initiating
this.
Where
is
our
flood
mitigation
work?
G
It
will
allow
us
to
identify
and
quantify
some
flood
problems
throughout
the
city
and
the
past
we
relied
mostly
on
complaints
from
residents.
This
was
a
problem
for
a
few
reasons.
First
of
all,
not
every
resident
knows
who
to
complain
to
or
would
take
the
effort
to
complain
to,
especially
you
know
some
areas
where
there's
a
lot
of
rental
we're
seeing
a
lot
more
flooding
than
what
had
been
reported
previously,
which
makes
sense
they
might
not
have
as
much
a
vested
interest
in
the
property.
G
As
someone
who
owns
the
house,
the
other
issue
is
that
there
is
variability
of
rainfall,
especially
with
these
really
highly
intense
rainfall
events.
We
may
have
never
experienced
a
hundred
years
storm
in
some
areas
of
the
city,
so,
rather
than
waiting
for
something
to
happen
and
then
hearing
a
complaints
about
it,
we're
doing
the
modeling
work
to
identify
where
those
problems
might
be
before
we
have
a
catastrophe
at
hand.
So
maybe
we
can
solve
the
problem
before
the
problem
occurs.
G
The
other
thing
that
we're
gonna
be
doing
is
then
using
this
modeling
work
to
prioritize
where
we're
going
to
be
doing
the
flood
mitigation
work
throughout
the
city.
We
can
use
this
by
it
for
looking
at
cost
benefits
comparisons
and
to
try
to
alleviate
problems
where
it
can
be
done
most
cost-effectively
on
the
modeling,
although
it's
mainly
for
flood
mitigation
work
and
all
the
problems
that
we
have
with
flooding,
it
can
be
used
for
a
whole
host
of
other
things,
related
to
drainage,
design
and
cleaning
our
capital
projects,
development
review
and
then
even
policy
development.
G
So
initially
the
city
has
always
used
modeling
I
should
state
this
isn't
really
anything
new,
but
it's
been
done
on
by
project
basis,
so
they
tend
to
be
much
more
simple
models
and
if
we
were
using
them
for
something
that
popped
up
like
a
street
reconstruction
project,
it
would
be
something
very
crude
compared
to
the
models
that
were
constructing
now.
The
availability
of
data
and
the
software
has
improved
such
that
now
we
can
actually
look
at
modeling,
the
entire
city.
So
on
the
map
here,
you
can
see
the
areas
that
we've
completed.
G
Full
coverage
of
the
city
is
shown
in
green.
Those
are
all
the
new
models
that
we've
created.
The
ones
in
orange
were
models
that
were
created
before
I
started
working
here
four
years
ago,
and
those
are
models
are
in
really
good
shape.
So
we
decided
not
to
proceed
with
new
models
in
those
areas
at
this
time,
since
we
already
have
coverage
there,
the
red
areas
are
ones
that
we're
currently
working
on
to
complete
and
we'll
blue
areas,
the
U
of
M,
which
they
primarily
owned,
their
own
drainage
system
in
that
area.
G
So
they've
told
me
that
they
are
actually
intending
to
model
their
area
within
the
next
couple
years,
so
that
will
be
nice
to
have
full
coverage
there
as
well.
So
again,
you
know
this
is
using
a
XP
swim
in
GIS
software
to
very
specialized
software's,
and
then
we
take
all
this
data
and
we
can
put
it
in
there
to
predict
where
the
flooding
will
occur,
and
some
of
this
is
actually
being
done
in-house
by
city
staff.
However,
we
definitely
need
the
help
of
some
of
our
consultants
to
get
all
this
work
done.
G
So
I
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
funding
agreement.
That's
before
you
today,
the
this
is
the
East
region,
modeling
area,
which
is
somewhat
arbitrary
and
how
it
relates
to
the
geography,
as
you
might
know
it.
But
for
me
it
follows
the
water
divide,
so
it's
very
intuitive
why
it
exists.
The
way
that
it
is
mwm
Ola
is
proposing
a
50%
reimbursement
and
that
will
cover
the
areas
that
are
shown
in
yellow
here.
G
This
is
actually
the
6th
modeling
project
that
we've
done
of
this
magnitude
with
MW
mo
others
include
all
of
North
Minneapolis
under
one
contract,
the
majority
of
southeast
Minneapolis
under
one
contract,
and
we
had
two
contracts
covering
Northeast,
Minneapolis
and
then
an
area.
That's
kind
of
up
by
the
quarry
shopping
center
near
st.
Anthony,
which
had
a
lot
of
flow
coming
in
through
there
from
the
city
of
Saint
Anthony
for
the
areas
outside
of
the
city,
I
should
note
them
W,
more
actually
funded.
G
G
Wanted
to
go
through
a
few
of
these
modeling
applications,
so
obviously
the
primary
intention
here
is
flood
mitigation
work.
However,
it
informs
a
lot
of
drainage
design.
The
map
on
the
right
shows
an
area
near
the
entrance
of
Bassett
Creek,
so
its
the
impound
lot
south
of
the
creek
there
that
you
can
see
on
the
map
and
then
the
area
north
of
there,
which
is
currently
being
considered
for
redevelopment
by
cpad.
G
So
when
they
came
to
us
or
actually
we
heard
that
they
were
considering
redeveloping
that
and
we
were
able
to
take
the
results
of
our
modeling
work
and
go
to
them
and
share
with
them
some
of
the
concerns
that
we
had
about
flooding.
So
this
map
here
shows
in
blue
the
areas
are
most
susceptible
to
flooding
in
the
area,
so
the
light
blue
is
100-year
event
or
probability
of
1%
of
occurring
in
a
given
year.
So
that's
obviously
a
huge
flood
risk
in
that
area.
G
So
we're
continuing
to
work
now
with
cpad
through
this
issue
and
we're
advising
them
on
how
they
might
be
able
to
get
a
consultant
involved
to
try
to
mitigate
some
of
this
flooding
before
development
would
occur
in
the
area
set.
We
don't
have
new
flood
problem
moving
forward
once
this
gets
redeveloped.
Another
example
on
a
smaller
scale
is
building
at
54:28
lyndale.
G
So
when
they
went
in
with
the
new
development
project
there
for
a
new
building,
we
were
able
to
work
with
the
developer
and
explain
to
them
what
the
model
was
showing
for
high
water,
elevations
and
I'd
like
to
note
that
they
actually
raised
their
building
elevation
because
of
that,
so
they
intended
to
build
it
about
3
feet
lower
than
what
it
ended
up
being
built
at
without
the
models
we
want
to
have
that
information
to
inform
their
decision.
So
it
was
another
one
where
we
avoided
another
flood
problem.
G
Just
by
having
the
models
available,
the
model
is
also
being
used
for
the
downtown
tunnel
study
looking
to
improve
our
tunnel
capacity
throughout
downtown.
It
also
is
used
to
inform
the
street
design
on
Nicollet
Mall,
the
original
layout,
actually
with
the
tabletop
design
that
they
have
with
the
road
being
pretty
much
act
grade
with
the
sidewalks.
G
Throughout
there,
there
were
actually
problems
discovered
through
using
the
modeling,
whereby
the
target
building
would
have
been
prone
to
flooding
there,
so
the
design
was
actually
altered
to
account
for
that
and
again,
obviously,
that's
a
huge
benefit
when
we
don't
have
major
businesses
downtown
having
problems
with
flooding.
So
again,
a
good
use
for
this
modeling.
The
Blue
Line
LRT
has
used
this
modeling
to
inform
some
of
their
drainage,
Network
decisions,
and
then
we've
also
begun
to
study
some
of
the
flood
mitigation
area,
in
particular
the
Cleveland
neighborhood
in
North
Minneapolis.
G
G
Fulton
neighborhood
we've
already
begun
to
look
at
some
of
the
flood
issues
there
and
we'll
be
looking
at
using
the
modeling
with
some
other
decision
matrix
used
to
to
inform
decisions
on
how
to
best
resolve
the
flooding
in
that
area,
then
shared
in
neighborhood,
13th,
Avenue
and
2nd
Street
northeast
at
dangerous
man.
There's
been
some
flooding
there
that
we're
looking
into
and
I'd
like
to
note
with
this
one
that
this
is
another
place
where
identifying
where
the
flooding
is
occurring
is
really
important.
G
Here
we
had
a
case
where
the
building
was
being
primarily
used
as
a
warehouse
in
the
past,
and
then
a
business
came
in
there
that
has
a
restaurant
and
all
of
a
sudden
putting
sandbags
in
front
of
the
door,
which
is
what
the
previous
owner
had
done,
and
they
didn't
seem
to
have
that
big
of
an
issue
with
that.
That
was
clearly
not
an
option
anymore
when
you
have
to
have
a
restaurant
open
and
having
people
come
in
and
out.
G
G
We
were
able
to
look
at
both
sewer
condition
and
then
also
using
our
modeling
to
predict
where
flood
issues
might
be
to
try
to
make
sure
that
we
take
care
of
all
this
in
one
dig,
so
that
were
not
back
in
there.
Fixing
problems
again
after
the
street
has
been
freshly
rebuilt
so
again
having
these
models
readily
available.
Even
if
our
Street
reconstruction,
proud
schedules,
may
shift
slightly
we'll
have
now
full
coverage
over
the
whole
city,
rather
than
trying
to
put
together
a
model
at
the
last
second
to
resolve
these
issues.
G
G
Then
we'll
look
at
the
street
capital
improvement
program
and
then
equity
also
will
be
factored
into
those
decisions
so
that,
finally,
when
we're
done,
we
will
have
a
ranking
of
which
projects
make
the
most
sense
to
implement
at
this
time
and
then
the
as
we're
prioritizing
and
implementing
these
solutions.
We'll
also
be
looking
to
include
usually
a
combination
of
storage,
both
above
and
below
ground
and
then
stormwater
treatment
to
improve
water
quality
and
then
green
infrastructure
at
the
streetscape
level.
G
If
if
it
shows
that
that
is
a
good
option
to
move
forward
with
so
and
then
on
the
the
bottom
piece
of
the
slide
here,
there's
a
graphic.
This
was
actually
taken
from
the
five-year
capital
improvement
program,
slide,
show
and
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
emphasize
that
we
will
be
working
closely
with
our
street
reconstruction
projects.
H
You
mr.
chair,
no
questions
just
wanted
to
add
a
couple
of
comments.
You
know
watersheds,
don't
follow
our
municipal
boundaries
or
our
county
boundaries
or
our
political
boundaries
around
here.
So
so
many
organizations
come
together
to
manage
and
and
protect
it
and
what
I
think
is
so
neat
about
the
work
this
workgroup
does
is
that
are
just
how
collaborative
they
have
to
be.
G
H
Their
approach,
you
know,
I've,
been
part
of
the
Minnehaha
Creek
watershed
district
from
a
policymaking
perspective
and
and
I
see
our
Public
Works
employees
play
so
many
different
roles
in
it,
formal
and
informal.
You
know
formal
in
the
policy
work
and
and
in
being
on
these
official
committees,
unofficial
at
the
neighborhood
level
and
I've
gone
on
walks
with
you,
Paul
down
the
creek
and
and
seeing
our
Public
Works
employees
at
helping
young
people
get
enthusiastic
about
our
watershed.
H
Like
teaching
young
kids
to
fish
in
Lake,
Minnetonka
I've
just
always
been
impressed
at
how
they
can
come
together
and
solve
a
problem
and
I
think
it's
a
model
of
maybe
how
we
can
work
better
as
government,
but
I
mean
it's
just.
This
is
water.
You
know
like
large
and
small,
even
between
individual
residents.
Last
night
I
have
you
know.
Sometimes
urgent
issues
come
up
well,
I
think
we're
the
majority
of
the
Mississippi
watershed
right.
H
H
There's
other
there's
other
places
involved
like
Columbia
Heights
and
Fred
Lee
and
Saint
Paul
and
st.
Anthony
and
and
the
Park
District
also
gets
involved
so
I.
Just
it's
really
important
for
us
all
to
remember
that
the
storm
sewer
is
like
five
to
12
feet
below
ground
in
residential
areas,
but
like
90
feet
below
ground.
Downtown
success
usually
means
that
nothing
changes
from
like
a
street
level
right
and-
and
so
it's
easy
to
overlook.
H
All
of
that
interagency
work
that
gets
just
to
keep
everything
moving
as
it
should
so
I
just
want
to
thank
this
whole
group
I
think
the
work
they
do
is
really
important
and
I
think
they
they're
very
creative
and
they
help
us
to
really
address
the
most
urgent
things
that
benefit
everyone.
So
thank
you
and
I.
Just
thanks
for
letting
us
put
a
spotlight
on
this
kind
of
stuff.
F
F
G
Absolutely
well,
we
are
looking
at
you
know,
partnering
with
the
the
planning
department
to
look
into
greening
options
and
that's
something
that
we're
definitely
pursuing
what
we
can
do
with
the
modeling
work
is
we
can
actually
quantify
like
the
types
of
flood
benefits
that
would
occur
and
then
there's
kind
of
a
separate
lens
of
modeling,
which
is
water
quality
modeling,
which
we
can
actually
use
these
models
to
help
build
those
quickly.
So
we
can
actually
model
both
of
those
to
see
what
the
water
quality
improvements
would
be.
G
G
I
Cherán
and
consummate
remember
thanks
again
for
this
opportunity:
I'm
Katrina,
Kessler
and
Paulist,
and
a
great
job
with
this
and
I
just
want
to
reinforce
that
at
the
end
of
the
hydraulic
modeling.
It
is
our
goal
to
have
this
decision
matrix
in
place
so
that
we
can
have
the
water
quality
model
done.
We
can
have
the
hydraulic
information
and
that
we
can
have
this
general
framework
of
cost-benefit
analysis,
which
is
difficult
to
do
because,
as
council
member
Paul
Masson
pointed
out,
it's
not
it's
not
even
uniform
across
the
city.
I
So
we
can't
say
this
cost-benefit
equation
works
for
this
area
of
Hennepin,
and
this
cost-benefit
equation
also
works
for
this
area
in
downtown
or
this
area
in
Northeast.
So
it's
a
little
bit
more
complicated
than
coming
up
with
a
decision
tree
and
saying
yes.
No,
yes,
no!
Yes,
no,
but
we
hope
to
have
something
that
is
transparent,
that
we
can
go
to
the
through
our
partners
with
watershed
partners
or
our
community
partners
and
say:
okay,
we've
done
all
this
work.
This
is
how
we
can
use
it.
This
is
how
you
can
use
it.
I
This
is
how
we
collectively
can
have
this
conversation
about
how
we
can
be
at
the
same
place,
at
least
with
the
same
information
when
we
need
to
be
when
planning
occurs.
I,
don't
think
it's
always
going
to
be
the
answer
that
people
want
to
hear,
because
I
think
we
will
have
more
acute
problems
that
need
to
be
addressed
than
any
given
streetscape,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
we
can't
have
the
conversation
and
when
the
opportunities
align,
we
should
certainly
be
taking
advantage
of
them.
I.
F
Just
think
that's
great
and
I
think
that
will
be
very
sad.
I
mean
I
think
as
much
as
people
may
want
to
see
something
in
their
individual
neighborhood
I.
Think
the
fact
that
we
have
that
overall
planning
system
will
be
very
satisfying
to
people
as
they
asked
for
this.
So
I
really
appreciate
this
work.
A
Any
other
commentary
yeah
it's
really
great
to
take
us
systems
and
data-driven
approach
and
I.
Think
it's
also
underlying
that
we
want
performance,
our
water
in
our
water
systems,
of
rely
on
what
we
do
in
the
Gulf
environment,
and
so
taking
that
big-picture
approach
is
absolutely
necessary
and
the
councilmember
Bender's
point
I
think
it
also
helps
to
have
an
informed
public.
Why
we
do
the
things
that
we
do
it's
not
because
they're
neat
it's
because
they
actually
do
something
very
important
and
kind
of
complement,
Palmisano
notes.
A
The
work
that
you've
done
with
the
University
of
Minnesota
and
what
that's
done
for
our
water
delivery
and
the
work
that
we're
doing
with
our
watershed
districts,
how
it's
really
up
in
our
game
for
water,
quality
and
management
as
well,
is
pretty
pretty
stellar
and
certainly
using
our
public
dollars
wisely
and
so
I
applaud
this
work
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
Any
further
commentary,
c9
we'd,
already
glued
this
as
a
receiving
file,
and
so
with
that
we
are
now
adjourned.
Thank
you.