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Description
Minneapolis Health, Environment & Community Engagement Committee Meeting
A
Good
afternoon
I'm
calling
to
order
this
meeting
of
the
health
environment
and
community
engagement
committee,
don't
remember
kamcord
in
the
chair,
I'm
joined
today
by
Andrew
Johnson,
Elizabeth
button
and
the
vendor
or
a
quorum
of
the
committee.
We
can
conduct
the
committee's
business.
We
have
four
consent
items
in
one
discussion:
item
on
the
agenda:
I'll
go
through
the
consent
items.
First,
any
committee
member
wants
to
pull
something
off
for
discussion.
You
can.
A
A
Would
anyone
like
to
pull
any
of
those
items
off
for
discussion
or
questions
seeing
them
and
I'll
move
all
of
those
forward
for
approval
all
those
in
favor?
Please
say:
aye
aye,
any
opposed,
say,
nay.
Those
motions
carry
then
now
we'll
move
on
to
our
discussion
item,
and
this
has
to
do
with
our
the
franchise
fee.
B
B
B
B
Shows
our
emissions
going
back
through
2006
and
what
you'll
notice
was
in
2015.
We
did
hit
our
greenhouse
gas
reduction
goal
of
a
15
percent
reduction.
We
actually
had
a
17
point,
8
percent
reduction,
so
we
hit
our
first
goal
in
2015,
we're
now
looking
towards
our
2030
goal,
where
we
aim
to
make
a
30%
reduction
and
ultimately,
looking
forward
to
2050.
B
We
aim
to
make
an
80%
reduction
a
few
things
I'd
like
to
point
out
here
is,
although
we
are
making
progress
towards
our
goals,
we
are
currently
not
on
track
to
meet
our
2050
goals.
Most
of
the
progress
we
have
made
to
date.
In
fact,
81%
of
our
total
progress
to
date
has
been
because
the
carbon
intensity
of
the
electricity
we
receive
from
Xcel
Energy
has
decreased
over
time.
So
mostly
our
our
progress
has
been
due
to
a
cleaner,
greener
electricity
source.
B
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
you'll
see
here,
two
of
the
bottom
colors
of
blue
color
and
gray
color,
that's
electricity
and
natural
gas
and
those
actually
indicate
most
the
energy
that's
going
towards
our
buildings
in
our
community
and
here's
another.
Look
at
that.
The
pie
chart
in
fact,
71
percent
of
the
emissions
for
us
as
a
whole
as
a
community
come
from
the
building
energy
sector.
B
Some
of
the
ways
that
we
we
tackle
the
energy
use
of
buildings
is
by
looking
at
programs
that
could
increase,
for
instance,
energy
retrofits,
for
existing
buildings.
We
also
have
an
energy
goal
specifically
for
energy
retrofits
in
a
climate
action
plan,
and
that
goal
says
that
seventy-five
percent
of
households,
both
owner-occupied
and
rental
households
with
receive
energy
retrofits
by
2025.
This
bar
graph
bar
graph
shows
that
in
2006
we
only
reached
837
households
through
the
home
energy
squad
program,
which
is
a
joint
offering
by
center
point
energy
and
Excel
energy.
B
To
achieve
75%
energy
retrofits
of
households
in
Minneapolis
by
2025,
we
would
have
to
greatly
increase
that
number
of
annual
retrofits.
It
really
requires
an
order
of
magnitude
larger,
so
we
are
making
progress,
but
much
more
progress
is
needed,
especially
to
hit
that
80%
reduction
goal
and
also
then
day
to
meet
the
75%
energy
retrofit
goal
for
households
to
help
meet
this
goal
and
also
to
meet
our
energy
goals
and
and
increase
energy
efficiency
and
renewable
energy.
B
The
city
formed
with
Xcel
Energy
and
CenterPoint
Energy
back
in
2015
the
clean
energy
partnership
that
the
tools
that
we
utilize
it's
going
to
partnership
is
using
community
and
stakeholder
engagement.
Looking
at
data
gathering
information
on
that
and
assessing
where
some
possibilities
lie
in
that
data
and
then
also
examining
policy
levers
that
the
city
may
have
in
ways
that
we
can
work
with
Xcel,
Energy
and
CenterPoint
Energy
to
examine
some
of
those
policy
made
policy
levers.
B
So
we've
been
engaged
in
the
clean
air
partnership
now
for
a
few
years,
I
think
we've
made
a
good
progress
and
again
a
lot
of
our
progress
that
we
have
made
is
working
on
building
energy
efficiency
as
well
as
renewable
energy.
But
again,
there's
been
this
realization,
though,
that
much
more
work
still
is
needed
to
meet
our
climate
energy
goals.
B
As
a
city
when
the
cleaner,
through
partnership,
looks
at
ways
we
can
meet
our
climate
energy
goals,
we
convene
around
the
partnership
board
councilmember
Corrine
announcement
Glidden
you
both
her
members
of
that
partnership
board,
as
well
as
mayor
Hodges,
currently
councilmember
rank
and
see
coordinators
Spencer
crime.
In
addition
to
the
city
leadership,
we
also
have
utility
leadership.
B
A
number
of
vice
presidents,
from
both
utilities
are
members
of
that
board
and
that
board
also
interacts
with
the
planning
team,
that
is,
the
staff
members
of
each
of
the
three
partners
and
there's
a
number
of
planning
team
members
here
in
the
audience
today
too,
who
have
spent
much
time
talking
about
crime
and
energy
issues
as
well
as
specifically
looking
at
additional
programming
that
can
be
done
in
the
future,
but
a
really
valuable
resource
we
have
is
clean
to
partnership.
Is
the
energy
vision,
Advisory
Committee?
This
is
our
expert
citizen
engagement
committee.
B
It's
made
of
about
15
members.
They
really
are
available
in
terms
of
developing
policy,
developing
goals.
Examining
progress
that's
been
made
as
well
as
then
getting
their
feedback
on
proposals
that
the
city's
our
utilities
may
have.
We
see
there's
an
integral
partner
to
the
work
we
do
and
as
an
integral
partner,
they
actually
convened
a
study
led
by
their
own
members,
examining
the
resources
and
programming
that
the
city
and
the
partnership
as
a
whole.
B
We
need
to
meet
these
very
aggressive
but
attainable
energy
and
climate
goals
and
I'm
joined
here
today
by
mecca's
inka,
as
I
mention
before
who's
in
evac
co-chair
also
at
the
Lake
Street
Council
mad,
as
a
co-chair
as
well
with
Abby
Fitness
who's
from
the
Great
Plains
Institute
and
I.
Now
up
to
give
a
presentation
on
the
study
that
Yvette
perform.
D
A
C
You
aren't
familiar
with
evac.
As
we've
mentioned,
we
have
a
15
member
committee
that
represents
almost
entirely
residents
of
Minneapolis
from
several
different
words.
We
have
folks
from
educational
institutions,
environmental
organizations,
business
serving
organizations,
residents
low
on
community
focused
organizations
in
small
businesses,
and
we
have
been
working
as
part
of
the
as
part
of
the
clean
energy
partnership
to
identify
how
we
can
move
the
work
of
the
partnership
forward.
C
Luke
laid
out
the
case
very
well
for
why
we
need
to
accelerate
their
goals
and
that's
something
that,
as
Evac
members
we've
taken
as
a
serious
task
for
ourselves,
that
we
know
that,
especially
to
meet
goals
like
that
75
percent.
Retrofit
goal
by
2025
is
incredibly
ambitious
and
also
incredibly
important,
not
only
for
our
climate
goals,
but
also
to
make
our
housing
more
affordable
and
comfortable
for
our
residents
and
as
well
as
making
commercial,
commercial
space
more
affordable
and
comfortable
and
usable
for
our
businesses.
C
We
have
been
from
the
start
trying
to
think
about
how
do
we
leverage
that
expertise
that
we
have
to
guide
the
partnership
towards
addressing?
You
know
clear,
concrete
sort
of
issues
and,
as
we've
thought
about
these
goals
around
accelerating
energy
efficiency
implementation
across
the
city,
we've
we've
noted
some
very
clear
barriers.
C
You
know
that
for
us
to
have
the
staff
capacity
at
these
institutions,
as
well
as
the
ability
to
partner
with
other
organizations,
to
offer
additional
incentives
to
residents
and
businesses
to
make
improvement
and
to
make
energy
efficiency
truly
accessible
to
everyone,
no
matter
their
income,
our
first
language
spoken
or
their
ownership
status
of
property.
That
additional
funding
is
like
a
key
and
necessary
piece.
So
we
launched
a
funding
workgroup
at
the
beginning
of
the
year.
Could
six
of
us
all
Minneapolis
residents
that
represented
a
variety
of
different
groups
and
interests.
C
We
were
supported
by
staff
from
the
city
from
Excel
and
from
center
points
to
help
us
figure
out
a
plan,
and
we
did
a
study
of
what
could
potentially
work
as
a
funding
mechanism
to
fund
this
work
long
term
and
in
a
sustainable
way.
We
knew
not
only
that
we
need
funding
that
is
reliable,
that
we
know
we'll
be
there
a
year
year
and
that
we
can
build
on
to
develop
programs
that
work
and
and
improve
those
programs
as
we
go,
but
also
funding.
That
is
at
the
right
scale.
C
We
think
of
this
as
the
most
sustainable
and
scalable
option
for
for
this
work
just
to
have
a
couple
slides
on
what
the
impacts
of
this
would
be
in
what
it
would
look
like.
So
residents
and
businesses
each
have
different
fee
rates
that
they
are
at
currently
4.5%,
5%
and
3%
for,
respectively,
residential
commercial
and
industrial
customers.
C
We
are
evac
in
our
study.
We
proposed
that
the
city
consider
increasing
the
fee
rates
by
half
a
percent
in
each
of
those
customer
classes,
so
taking
up
to
five
five
and
a
half
and
three
and
a
half
what
that
means.
What
that
looks
like
for
an
average
business
and
an
average
resident
the
resident
we'd
be
looking
at
based
on
the
past
four
years.
Kind
of
the
average
of
bills
you'd
be
looking
at
about
a
fifty
seven.
C
Fifty
seven
cent
increase
on
the
average
monthly
bill
of
a
resident
in
Minneapolis
for
businesses
the
for
most
businesses,
the
average
increase
would
be
about
a
seven
dollar
and
sixteenths
and
increase
on
their
monthly
bills,
but
I
will
say
that
there
is
a
lot
of
variation.
It
depends
a
lot
on
how
much
in
what
way
they
use
energy
so
for
businesses
that
just
use
it
to
heat
and
cool
and
turn
on
the
lights.
C
E
C
A
different
different
type
of
impact
higher
the
industrial
categories
you
can
see
the
increase
is
much
higher.
That
is
because
the
industrial
category
of
the
industrial
grade
class
for
Excel
and
for
Centrepointe
doesn't
actually
mean
manufacturing
businesses.
It
is
the
highest
users
of
energy
in
the
city,
so
this
could
be
educational
institutions,
colleges,
large
large
businesses
and
properties,
as
well
as
industrial
and
manufacturing
buildings.
C
So,
while
the
increase
is
certainly
higher
for
industrial
customers,
that
is
because
it
is
in
proportion
to
their
normal
energy
bills,
which
are
in
the
thousands
or
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars
each
month.
One
thing
I
will
note
is
that
you
know
I
work
with
small
businesses
and
my
work
with
Lake
Street
Council.
C
What
I
have
heard
from
both
talking
to
our
businesses
and
talking
to
other
business
partners
and
chambers,
is
that
you
know,
while
they
have
concerns
about
additional
costs,
they
also
see
the
value
of
the
investment
that
this
could
make
and
making
energy
efficiency
and
lower
energy
bills.
Value
achievable
for
businesses
they're
concerned
when
I
want
to
have
talked
to
them
about
this
proposal
is
that
if
we
were
to
raise
the
franchise
fees,
they
would
really
want
that
money
to
go
towards
funding
energy
efficiency
in
funding
tools
that
will
make
efficiency
more
accessible
to
businesses.
C
So,
on
the
residential
side,
we
see
a
few
key
things.
We'd
like
to
have
funded
one
is
to
expand
outreach
to
single-family
and
multi-family
buildings,
both
the
tenants
and
the
property
owners
of
those
buildings
to
implement
the
lessons
learned
from
a
community
engagement
pilot
that
the
Clean
Energy
Partnership
funded
this
last
year,
which
reached
renters
in
all
types
of
buildings
and
gave
us
a
very
good
idea
of
what
are
some
of
the
barriers
that
renters
face
weren't.
Some
of
the
things
that
keep
landlords
from
making
investments
in
their
buildings.
C
We
think
there
there
could
be
a
key
kind
of
target.
We
may
want
to
have
for
subsidizing
utility
program
visits,
especially
for
tenants
and
building
owners
that
may
not
make
participate
in
those
programs,
otherwise,
especially
for
low-income
low
income
renters
as
well.
We
also
would
like
to
see
the
building
benchmark.
C
Sorry,
a
large
building
benchmarking
program
that
the
city
has
expand
to
multifamily
buildings,
because
we
see
a
lot
of
the
opportunities
that
exist
are
in
multifamily
buildings
and
we
want
to
see
the
the
resources
that
the
city
is
putting
into
large
buildings,
extend
to
those
multifamily
building
operators
and
to
get
a
better
sense
of
where
the
opportunities
are
and
help
us
make
those
investments.
And
finally,
we
know
that
financing
is
a
is
a
barrier
for
some.
C
On
the
commercial
side,
we
would
like
to
see
the
green
business
cost-share
program,
which
Patrick
will
talk
about
in
a
moment,
be
funded
at
the
level
that
will
meet
demand,
because
it
is
a
program
that
has
been
successful
and
we
want
to
see
it
expanded.
We
also
want
to
have
mechanisms
in
place
to
make
sure
that
all
small
businesses
in
the
city
learn
about
and
can
access
and
use
utility
programs.
C
So
a
small
business
engagement
program
that
meets
businesses
where
they're
at
uses
trusted
mission
messengers
and
it's
effective
in
bringing
small
businesses
in
to
you
know
this
area
of
energy
efficiency.
Again
there
may
be
opportunities
to
targets
of
the
subsidies
for
building
efficiency
studies,
especially
in
small
industrial
buildings
or
other
buildings.
Where
there's
a
lot
of
process,
efficiency
that
could
be
gained,
we'd
like
to
see
increased
technical
assistance
for
our
large
building
operators,
those
that
are
participating
in
the
benchmarking
program
now
have
a
lot
of
data
on
where
their
opportunities
might
be.
C
We'd
like
to
see
the
city
be
able
to
help
support
them
and
actually
making
an
implementing
changes
and
finally,
we'd
like
to
for
businesses,
as
we
want
to
see
for
residents
to
create
tools
that
reduce
financing
barriers,
although
that
is
increasing
the
usage
of
the
property,
assessed,
clean
energy
program,
pace
program
or
creating
new,
more
inclusive
financing
models
or
0%
interest
loans.
We
want
to
look
into
that
and
see
what
is
the
best
tool
that
can
make
efficiency
investments
more
accessible
for
businesses.
C
One
final
thing,
I'd
like
to
point
out,
is
that
we
did
write
a
pretty
lengthy
reports
about
our
recommendations
and
how
the
we
worked
through
to
come
to
our
conclusions
and
make
our
recommendations.
The
link
is
available
on
the
slides
and
I
believe
they'll
be
uploaded
to
the
city
websites,
so
I
can
invite
back
up.
Thank
you.
B
Thanks
Matt
and
do
really
some
of
the
great
work
that
energy
vision,
Advisory
Committee,
did
during
their
analysis
of
some
of
the
needs
to
meet
our
energy
goals
and
climate
goals.
The
kleenex
worship
boards
saw
fit
to
to
adopt
the
joint
resolution.
So
this
is
resolution
that
was
adopted
by
all
members
of
the
parish
aboard
city
members,
as
well
as
the
members
of
Xcel
Energy
and
sup
on
energy
and
Australia
retention.
B
To
the
end
of
the
resolution,
which
says
the
clean
and
cheap
burner
shipboard
supports
additional
dedicated
City
funding
for
new
and
existing
programs
to
increase
energy
efficiency
and
renewable
energy
investments,
with
the
specific
focus
on
equity
in
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
Reductions
and
again,
this
exact
language
was
adopted
at
our
Q
3
clearance
board
meeting
in
July.
B
Building
off
of
what
the
great
recommendations
that
you
vac
made
and
that
just
presented,
we
see
that
implementing
those
recommendations
really
falls
into
four
categories.
There
are
policy
levers
that
can
be
examined
and
implemented
engagement,
strategies
that
we
that
can
help
make
existing
and
new
programs
as
beneficial
to
the
community
as
possible,
their
incentives
that
can
help
move
both
building
owners,
residential
customers
to
take
on
energy
efficiency,
renewable
energy
work
and
there's
also
financing
options
to
reduce
those
barriers
to
acquiring
capital
for
these
projects
really
examine
some
policy
options.
B
Some
programs
that
meet
these
four
criteria
here
in
the
next
few
minutes,
but
I
will
mention,
though,
that
the
list
we're
talking
about
today
is
necessarily
exhaustive
of
all
the
possible
programs.
So
we
could
use
I,
recommend
reading
Eve
act
report,
which
methods
a
lot
of
those
programs.
We
can
provide
an
illustration
today
of
some
of
the
high
impact
programs
that
we
think
could
have
the
potential
for
being
scaled
up,
and
many
other
programs
would
have
many
similarities
to
these
programs.
B
As
Matt
mentioned,
financing
and
buy
down
options
specifically
for
programming
could
be
very
important
to
increase
energy
efficiency
of
new
larger
projects.
One
potential
isn't
0%
interest
energy
efficiency
low
in
the
program.
This
would
be
a
program
where
the
board,
the
city
could
help
buy
down
the
interest
rate
for
residential
customers
to
increase
home
insulation
and
air
sealing
in
their
houses.
Center
for
energy,
the
environment,
who
is
the
provider
of
home
energy
squad,
visit
estimates
that
probably
about
25
percent
of
single-family
houses
in
Minneapolis,
have
no
wall
insulation
at
all.
B
By
helping
those
homeowners
put
in
Multan
solution
or
attic
insulation
or
air
sealing,
we
can
significantly
reduce
their
energy
Burt,
especially
during
the
winter
months,
when
energy
can
be
very
unaffordable
for
many
residents,
and
this
program
would
also
build
on
a
successful
pilot
that
we
undertook
with
Center
for
energy
in
the
environment
2016.
But
we
did
provide
32
months
and
we
can
also
provide
income
qualification
standards
to
those
to
make
sure
we're
also
hitting
the
households
their
most
in
need.
They
both
the
business
side
and
the
residential
side.
B
We
can
also
buy
down
energy
assessment
visits
so
for
that
home
energy
score
visits,
a
residential
customer
and
that
can
be
turnkey
assessments,
the
turnkey
program
for
commercial
customers,
specifically
small
businesses.
We
can
provide
incentives
that
would
reduce
the
financial
barriers
to
actually
undertaking
these
assessments
as
well
as
then.
We
can
provide
as
Patrick
lamented
some
some
actual
incentive
offers
to
pair
with
financing
to
again
reduce
those
barriers.
B
D
Chair
Gordon
councilmembers,
my
name
is
Patrick
Hanlon
I'm,
the
director
of
environmental
programs
for
the
Health
Department,
in
looking
at
recommendations
from
'back
that
we
could
help
to
implement.
On
the
operation
side,
we
looked
at
the
energy
benchmarking
program.
We've
been
running
the
commercial
energy
benchmarking
program
for
about
five
years,
and
we've
got
some
great
data.
That's
a
program
run
by
Nadia
Khan
in
the
in
the
health
department,
along
with
other
city
staff
and
looking
at
ways
how
we
could
go
from
getting
compliance
with
that
ordinance
to
really
driving
change
in
that
sector.
D
You
look
at
15%
of
citywide
greenhouse
gas
emissions
from
a
relatively
small
number
of
properties,
which
is
70%
of
the
commercial
square
footage.
So
if
we
can
get
some
changes,
if
we
can
drive
changes
in
that
sector,
we
can
make
some
pretty
significant
greenhouse
gas
emission
reductions,
and
so,
if
the
strategy
there
would
be
to
build
upon
collaborative
success
with
the
utilities
in
conducting
workshops
and
doing
technical
assistance
in
that
area
and
then
on
a
policy
level
as
well
also
was
mentioned.
D
D
Combining
engagement
like
as
Matt
was
talking
about
with
groups
like
Lake
Street
Council,
with
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
energy
smart
program,
combining
the
using
the
incentives
of
the
green
business
cost
your
program
and
then
at
financing
partners
as
well
that
specialize
in
that
area.
The
green
business
cost
year
program
we
in
leverage
investments
at
around
ten
to
one.
So
we
have
invested
four
hundred
and
thirty
four
thousand
dollars.
D
Seven
hundred
and
twenty
four
hundred
thirty
four
thousand
seven
hundred
twenty
two
dollars
and
seventy
cents
make
sure
that
we're
keeping
track
of
all
of
our
numbers
and
we've
leveraged
over
four
and
a
half
million
dollars
in
energy
efficiency
and
renewable
energy
projects.
With
that
program.
In
the
first
couple
years
of
focusing
on
in
the
energy
area,
businesses
are
saving
over
six
hundred.
Fifty
thousand
dollars
in
energy
savings,
so
it's
it's
a
unique
area
where
you
can
invest
fees
and
eventually
save
businesses
more
money
than
they're
being
charged
in
those
fees.
D
This
is
since
the
program
started,
so
this
also
includes
air
quality,
but
I
also
would
like
to
look
at
this
graph,
not
only
as
the
as
the
financials
of
the
money
that
was
leveraged,
but
also
the
impact
that
can
be
made.
So
if
we're
focusing
our
money
on
city
only
projects,
you
know
that
graph
on
the
left
is
is
the
impact
that
can
be
made
if
we're
taking.
D
If
we're
utilizing
these
fees
and
leveraging
leveraging
projects
that
happen
out
in
the
world
where
the
other
ninety
seven
percent
of
greenhouse
gas
emissions
are
taking
place,
so
we
can
really
have
some
huge
impacts
when
we
leverage
investments
from
nonprofits
from
government
partners
from
utility
funding,
and
it
should
be
noticed
noted
that
there's
a
lot
of
unused
capacity
with
utility
incentives
that
are
out
there
that
could
be
leveraged
into
Minneapolis
for
to
be
fully
used
and
fully
utilized
with
the
commercial
program
opportunities.
There
is
a
lifetime
of
work
that
could
be
done.
D
We're
looking
at
focusing
our
engagement
are
these
incentive
program
and
in
financing
tools
in
green
zones.
First,
those
are
the
areas
that
are
highlighted
in
green
and
those
are
areas
that
have
been
historically
under
invested
in
and
historically
intentionally
under
invested
in
and
so
starting
in
those
areas.
First,
where
we're
providing
additional
incentives
to
drive
down
energy
costs
for
small
businesses
in
those
areas
and
then
working
our
way
out
to
other
opportunities
across
the
city.
D
Another
approach
that
was
recommended
by
'back
was
Green
housing
cost
share
program.
So,
taking
that
same
successful
approach
that
we
have
with
the
Green
Business
cost
your
program
and
moving
into
the
housing
sector
Matt
mentioned.
There's
a
split
incentive
between
tenants
and
owners
owners
usually
pass
the
cost
on
to
tenants
and
tenants
a
lot
of
times.
Don't
have
the
resources
of
the
capacity
to
make
improvements
in
their
building,
so
they're
stuck
bearing
the
burden
of
those
costs.
There's
a
there's,
a
tremendous
opportunity
to
address
affordability
a
lot
of
times.
D
We
talk
about
affordability
in
housing
as
supply
and
demand
of
housing,
but
there's
tremendous
opportunity
in
energy
efficiency
and
being
able
to
to
create
affordability
within
the
city
in
addressing
energy
efficiency.
So,
as
we
look
at
rolling
out
this
program,
you
know
we
looking
at
a
way
that
we
can
start
small
and
scale
up,
and
we
looked
at
the
cities
and
led
and
healthy
homes.
D
Program
is
the
way
when
staff
are
going
cities
when
city
staff
are
going
into
these
houses
and
they're
working
on
changing
out
windows
that
have
LED
they're
doing
other
renovation
projects
in
the
house
to
address
healthy
housing
conditions.
They
can
also
be
looking
at
weatherization
and
energy
efficiency.
Most
of
the
homes
that
that
program
works
with
are
low
income
housing,
and
so
it's
a
way
to
address
affordability
in
those
houses.
D
At
the
same
time,
when
the
staff
is
there
and
when
contractors
are
in
units,
we
look
at
this
program
could
probably
project
we
project
that
we
could
leverage
resources
at
five-to-one
with
this
program,
so
a
$200,000
investment
with
leverage
around
a
million
dollars
in
private
investment
and
utility
investment
there's
also.
It
should
also
be
noted
that
when
we
go
into
these
homes,
there's
federal
dollars,
there's
HUD
dollars
that
are
on
the
table
that
are
being
are
not
being
utilized.
D
So,
like
I
said
we
would
start
small.
If
this
is
similar
to
the
commercial
program.
Start
small
in
green
zones
look
at
high
priority
areas.
These
are
these
are
cases
of
lead
and
Healthy.
Homes
cases
lead
poisoning
cases
and
so
starting
in
those
green
zone
areas
and
then
working
our
way
out
and
the
opportunity
again
is
a
lifetime
of
work.
In
looking
at
the
residential
opportunities
that
are
out
there
in
scaling
up
our
engagement
or
incentives
in
our
financing
programs
to
target
rental
and
owner
occupied
housing.
D
And
so
this
is
the
last
slide.
You
know,
we've
talked
a
lot
today
about
accelerating
we
need
to
bend
the
curve
using
policy,
engagement,
incentives
and
financing
to
hit
our
goals
and
it
kind
of
gets
lost.
When
you,
you
know,
when
you
look
at
when
you
look
at
it
in
terms
of
charts
and
hitting
80
percent
of
climate
action
goals-
and
you
know
the
other
day,
I
was
it's.
This
is
the
season
of
departments
asking
for
resources
to
meet
their
needs
to
get
their
base.
D
Work
done
and
I
was
in
a
in
a
room
with
Gretchen
music
aunt
and
someone
had
asked
well.
Why
are
we
doing?
Why
are
we
looking
at
doing
all
these
things,
these
special
things
that
go
above
and
beyond?
When
you
know
some
of
our
base
needs,
you
know
we
have
department,
saying
we
can't
get
some
of
our
base
needs
done
and
I
was
really
liked.
D
I
feel
very
fortunate
standing
up
here
and
knowing
that
we
live
in
a
city
that
that
our
our
Council
and
the
people
in
the
city
know
that
that's
a
reality
and
and
then
I
also
feel
very
fortunate
to
be
standing
up
here,
representing
evac
in
and
then
coming
forward
with
this
whole
concept.
This
whole
franchise
fee
concept
that
they've
worked
a
long
time
on.
It's
taken
them
a
lot
of
time
to
bring
us
all
together
a
lot
of
conversations
and
a
lot
of
work
to
get
that
all
done.
A
E
Which
is
more
I,
think
about
kind
of
the
general
support
for
the
need
for
increased
revenue
and
and
and
I
do
wanna,
say
I
really
appreciate
that
you
back
dug
into
this
topic,
worked
with
folks
from
the
city
from
Centrepointe
from
Xcel
on
really
bringing
together
a
lot
of
information.
There's
a
lot
in
your
report
and
I
appreciate
that
you
kind
of
gave
us
some
good
food
for
thought
on
some
of
your
recommendations,
I'm
trying
to
make
sure
I
understand
how
this
becomes.
E
You
know
what
what
is
the
city
staff
do
to
kind
of
take
those
recommendations
and
I
see
mr.
Hanlon
you've
kind
of
given
us
sort
of
some
specifics
on
some
of
those
recommendations,
but
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
like
kind
of
what
are
our
next
steps?
Maybe
this
is
more
for
Luke
I'm,
not
sure,
just
to
make
sure
we're
understanding
kind
of.
How
would
we
really
if
this
franchise
fee
is
approved?
Take
the
steps
to
build
out
I
think
what
I
would
envision
as
a
more
comprehensive
plan.
That
is
not
an
evac
plan.
E
I
feel
Evac
gives
us
that
advice,
but
as
sort
of
the
city
enterprise
plan
and
in
conjunction
with
Centrepointe
and
Excel,
you
know
how
do
we
kind
of
raise
it
to
that
level
and
kind
of
figure
out
kind
of?
What
are
we
going
to
do
to
continue,
because
some
of
these
things
are
programs
that
are
recommended
that
we
have
some
history
with
that
we
know
how
to
track.
Some
of
these
things
are
new
proposals.
E
This
is
how
do
you
more
about
the
safe
and
healthy
homes
and
Simone,
and
also
about
affordability
too,
so
I
should
yeah
so
anyway.
I
just
want
to
kind
of
put
that
out
there
because
I'm
curious
kind
of
how
at
what
point
do
we
get
a
recommendation
on
kind
of?
How
do
we
take
it
to
the
next
level
with
how
to
take
this
information
and
we're
kind
of
in
the
midst
of
getting
the
resident
input
through
the
community
meeting
process
and
then
we'll
kind
of
have
the
ordinances
themselves
to
be
considered?
B
I
think
you're
absolutely
right
to
me
to
be
thinking
about
the
next
step.
Obviously,
right
now,
there's
there's
kind
of
the
revenue
side.
That's
going
forward
with
policy
makers
and
we've
started
talking
as
staff
with
evac
and
and
some
of
the
policy
makers
as
well
as
how
do
you
start
determining
that
expenditure
side?
I'd
say
that
I
think
after
any
potential
actions
taken
the
ordinance
and
a
budget
is
adopted
in
the
coming
weeks.
B
I
believe
that
I
think
then
there's
a
defined,
and
perhaps
you
would
call
it
a
bucket
of
money
to
be
spent
on
these
programs
and
obviously
there's
many
different
programs
that
could
be
funded
and
what
I
see
is
going
into
early
next
year
over
bringing
in
new
clean
energy
partnership
board
members
and
obviously
some
of
their
aides
and
staff
as
well.
I'd
see
one
of
the
first
tasks
next
year
would
be
to
be
looking
at
that
expenditure
side,
using
the
cleaner
partnership
and
evac
as
a
sounding
board.
B
First
I
have
to
talk
about
programs,
recommendations
also,
obviously
talking
with
utilities.
They
have
a
lot
of
expertise
as
well
amenities
programs,
so
bringing
in
our
new
cleaner,
cheaper.
At
board
members
and
their
aides
and
talking
as
a
group
about
some
of
the
staff
recommendations
for
programs,
what
can
be
scaled
up
quickly,
I
think
is
something
we
considered
as
well
as
what
maybe
takes
a
longer
term
investment.
B
So
I
think
there
will
be
a
balance
there
as
well
and
then
I
think,
there's
a
balance
we
discussed
on
energy
efficiency
and
renewable
energy
and
I
think
there's
also
a
balance
to
be
discussed
and,
in
fact,
'back
will
be
having
their
quarterly
meeting
on
Thursday
and
one
of
the
items
that
we
one
of
the
questions
we
post
evac
is
what
is
a
balance
in
terms
of,
let's
say,
policy
versus
financial
incentives
directly
out
the
door.
For
instance,
policy
development
oftentimes
takes
people,
engagement,
staff
and
then
obviously,
promoting
action
in
the
community
requires
financial
incentives.
A
Just
a
little
bit
because
I
think
the
process
is
going
to
be
really
important,
but
I
also
think
there's
still
questions
out
there
right
now
about
how
much
money
will
this
potentially
bring
in
what
are
their
existing
things
in
the
budget
that
might
already
be
tied
to
this,
and
my
theory
was
we
approved
the
budget
and
we
approved
the
ordinances
to
raise
the
franchise
fee,
but
hopefully,
in
that
process,
maybe
we
can
come
up
with
a
clearer
staff
direction
on
then.
What
is
what
of
what
is
actually
going
to
get
gonna
get
funded?
A
So
maybe
that
is
something
we
could
do
this
year
at
least
is
tee
it
up.
Maybe
something
similar
to
what
was
outlined
here
is
that
there'll
be
a
process
that
we're
gonna
have
to
pursue
to
narrow
it
down.
What
I
wasn't
comfortable
with
was
just
letting
it
pass
as
a
great
increase
without
some
kind
of
action
that
the
council
would
take.
So
that's.
A
Why
there's
a
resolution
before
you
today,
which
is
very
general,
maybe
as
general
as
the
clean
energy
partnerships
action
just
to
support
this
concept,
but
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
do
tie
this
to
clean
energy
efforts
and
that's
what
we
say
we're
doing
throughout
the
process
and
that
seemed
to
be
the
role
this
committee
could
play,
and
so
that's
why
I
thought?
Well,
let's
have
it
come
here.
Let's
talk
about
some
of
the
details,
then,
let's
take
some
action.
A
The
elites
expressly
says
that
removed
for
that
off
two
ways
and
means
them,
because
it's
my
understanding
that
in
the
ordinance
themselves
that
won't
talk
about
where
the
money
goes,
they're
just
the
ordinances
that
get
amended,
we'll
just
talk
about
raising
the
franchise
fee,
a
certain
percentage.
So
that's.
A
Maybe
I'll
just
speak
to
that
a
little
bit.
I
think.
One
of
the
reasons
why
this
is
acceptable
to
people
is
because
they
see
this
rate
increase
tied
to
energy
and
clean
energy
and
potentially
energy
savings
and
efficiencies.
I
think
one
of
the
things
we've
also
heard
it's
at
the
different
classes
of
ratepayers.
If
you
will
are
concerned
that
it
might
not
benefit
them,
so
this
at
least
calls
us
out
that
we're
going
to
look
for
programs
that
will
will
support
residential
as
well
as
industrial
and
commercial
and
I
think.
D
E
A
A
Sumption
was-
and
I
think
maybe
I
said
that
would
be
referred
to-
waste
means
certainly
would
be,
and
mostly
I'm.
This
was
vetted
with
sustainability
staff
in
the
coordinators
office.
I
don't
know
if
it
actually
got
financed,
looked
at
it
as
well
I'm
seeing
kid
not
sound,
so
at
least
the
awareness
you
don't
have
any
comments
you
want
to
make
her
okay,
but
because
it's
going
to
ways
it
means
you
can
certainly
be
vetted
more
fully.
A
E
Mr.
chair
I'll
just
say
kind
of
might
my
questions
weren't,
because
I
was
thinking
we
should
have
had
a
staff
direction
today
and
I
kind
of
feel
like
there
may
be
something
that's
more
about
kind
of
what's
the
process
once
we
once
we
see
if
an
ordinances
or
two
ordinances
are
approved
kind
of
what
would
be
those
next
steps
to
make
sure
that
is,
that
is
clear,
and
we
kind
of
kind
of
figure
out
how
that
loops
into
deliverables
and
and
and
things
like
that.
E
So
just
for
you
to
kind
of
hear
that
a
little
bit
more
directly
from
me.
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
put
some
of
those
things
on
the
table,
because
I
think
we
have
some
good
grounding
of
what
would
happen.
But
now
we
kind
of
need
to
put
this
into
what's
the
framework
for
a
multiple
year
kind
of
initiative
and
reporting
back
and
kind
of
the
things
that
the
public
expects
and
that
the
policy
makers
would
want
to
see
to
which
is
goal-setting
and
transparency,
and
I.
A
Agree-
and
I
think
one
of
the
only
reasons
why
this
has
significant
support
is
because
people
do
see
this
as
being
tied
to
the
clean
energy
partnership
and
climate
action
plan
and
working
on
those
goals
and
I.
Think
if
we
end
up
just
raising
the
franchise
fee
and
it
goes
into
the
general
fund
and
we
forget
to
follow
through
and
do
we
don't
have
any
accountability
or
transparency
or
any
good
process.
A
And
we
can't
point
to
things
and
say
this:
did
actually
save
energy
or
promote
clean
energy,
that
we're
gonna,
have
disappointed
policy
makers
and
disappoint
public
and
we've
got
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
do
that.
I
think
the
process.
We
really
have
to
nail
down
a
good
process,
maybe
annually
or
what's
going
to
be
the
process
for
determining
how
we
use
these
resources
and
report
back
to
the
council.
So
we'll
keep
working
to
that,
even
though
this
little
framework
doesn't
have
that
explicitly
put
in
there.
A
But
if
we're
willing
to
ready
to
vote
on
the
motion,
then
I'll
call
for
a
vote
all
those
in
favor
of
the
resolution
before
you,
please
say
aye.
Any
posts
say
no,
that
motion
carries
I,
guess
I
moved
to
receive
and
file
the
report
as
well,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
and
any
opposed.
That
motion
carries
and
I
don't
see
any
other
business
before
so
this
meeting
is
adjourned.
Thank
you.
Everyone.