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Description
Minneapolis Community Development & Regulatory Services Committee Meeting
A
Good
afternoon
welcome
today's
to
today's
hearing
of
the
Community
Development
and
regulatory
services
for
today,
October
10th.
We
are
currently
waiting
on
quorum
and
as
soon
as
the
quorum
of
the
committee
arrives,
we
will
begin
but
I
wanted
everyone
to
know
why
we
haven't
started
yet
so
I
want
to
thank
you
for
being
here
today.
A
I'll
also
note
that
the
order
of
the
agenda
is
going
to
be
the
presentation
by
staff
on
grants
followed
by
a
motion
on
the
consent
agenda
and
then
the
public
hearings,
so
they're
only
one
item
prior
to
the
public
hearing
agenda
I
just
want
folks
to
know
that
I've
been
joined
by
council
members,
Quincy
Reich
and
more
Sami,
which
is
a
quorum
of
the
committee.
So
we
will
go
ahead
and
begin.
The
agenda
I'll
start
with
item
number
seven,
which
is
our
quasi
judicial
public
hearing
that
we
are
now
going
to
delete
from
the
agenda.
A
Are
there
any
questions
with
regard
to
item
number
seven
delete
from
the
agenda,
seeing
none
on
the
motion
to
delete
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
any
opposed.
That
item
is
approved
and
then
we
will
also
take
items.
10
11
12
I'll
note
that
on
item
number
10
item
41
on
page
9,
Sally
saloon
is
being
postponed,
so
I
will
move
the
liquor,
business
and
gambling
licenses
except
for
item
41
on
page
nine,
which
we
will
postpone.
A
One
cycle
on
the
motion
to
approve
item
10
is
amendment
as
well
as
items
11
and
12
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
any
opposed
those
items
are
approved.
Then
we'll
move
on
to
item
number
9
and
ask
mr.
Carroll
to
give
his
presentation
I
note.
There
are
two
items
we
will
be
amending
on
that
as
well.
Mr.
Carroll,
thank
you
for
being
here.
Thank.
B
You,
madam
chair,
a
committee,
as
you
know,
I
appear
before
you
twice
a
year
with
a
list
of
projects
that
city
staff
are
recommending
for
a
brownfield
grant
applications,
Thank
You
councilmember
Goodman
for
outlining
a
couple
of
topics.
You'd
like
me
to
address
very
briefly:
I'll
go
through
those
in
order.
He
asked
for
a
brief
overview
of
the
programs.
B
Many
if
not
most,
development
and
redevelopment
sites
in
Minneapolis
are
contaminated
in
one
way
or
another,
either
because
of
a
past
industrial
legacy
or
because
they
were
constructed
at
a
time
when
people
didn't
understand
as
much
about
asbestos
in
blood-based
pain
and
that
type
of
thing.
Fortunately,
we
have
three
local
Grand
Tours,
that
by
Brown
field
grant
funding
for
Minneapolis
projects,
the
state
of
Minnesota
through
its
Department
of
Employment
and
economic
development,
our
deed,
the
Metropolitan
Council
in
Hennepin
County
all
had
brownfield
grant
programs
a
number
of
years
ago.
B
They
coordinated
their
program,
so
they
all
have
the
same
application
deadlines
twice
a
year,
May
1
November
1.
We
solicited
three
applications
back
in
August
of
this
year.
The
city's
pre-application
deadline
for
the
Fall
brownfield
grant
round
was
September
5.
We
received
a
number
of
applications
and
reviewed
them.
The
staff
report
lists
those
projects
that
we
are
now
recommending.
That's
an
overview
of
the
program's.
You
also
asked
me
to
address
whether
or
not
the
applicants
are
ranked.
B
This
is
a
little
bit
confusing,
because
some
of
the
grant
have
grant
programs
where
they
asked
the
city
to
rank
the
applications
and
in
fact
they
sometimes
have
limitations
on
the
number
of
applications
we
can
submit
in
any
given
grant
round.
The
brownfield
system
is
different
than
that.
There's
no
limit
on
the
number
of
applications
we
can
submit
and
the
granddaughter's
asked
us
to
not
rank
the
projects.
They
can't
prohibit
us
from
doing
that,
but
they
said.
If
we
do
it,
they
don't
pay
any
attention
to
it
at
all.
B
The
reason
for
that
is,
they
have
their
own
ranking
criteria
and
they
say
in
a
way
we
almost
don't
care
how
you
rank
them,
we're
going
to
score
them
and
rank
them
ourselves.
All
they
want
to
know
is
whether
the
City
Minneapolis
supports
a
given
project
for
purposes
of
getting
grant
funding.
It's
kind
of
a
toggle
switch,
yes
or
no
type
thing.
They
want
a
resolution
from
us
that
lists
those
projects
that
we've
approved
for
purposes
of
seeking
grant
funding.
So
that's
why
we
write
the
staff
report.
That's
why
we
appear
here.
B
You
asked
about
how
much
funding
is
available
and
how
much
we
are
asking
for
I'm
gonna
make
some
recommendations
here
at
the
end
about
some
modifications
to
my
staff
report
in
the
resolutions
and
taking
those
requests
and
changes
into
effect.
What
we
have
here
is
a
case
where
deed
has
about
four
million
dollars
worth
of
grant
funding
available
in
this
round.
We've
gotten
three
applications
from
Minneapolis
projects,
seeking
a
total
of
about
3.4
million.
The
Metropolitan
Council
has
about
2.5
million
available.
We've
received
pre
applications
for
Minneapolis
projects
of
about
3
million.
B
The
Hennepin
County
is
now
alternating,
they're
involved
in
only
one
round
per
year.
They
weren't
involved
in
the
spring
round
this
year.
They
will
be
involved
in
the
fall
round.
They've
said
that
they
have
about
1.3
million
available
and
we
have
pre-application
request
from
about
2.6
million.
That
naturally
leads
to
the
question
as
to
why
we
would
submit
applications
that
seek
more
money.
That's
available,
there's.
B
Basically,
three
reasons
for
that
number
one
is
that,
based
on
the
demand
on
occasion,
granters
put
more
money
into
the
programs
than
they
had
originally
anticipated,
anticipated,
often
that's
in
a
response
to
the
applications
they
get
from
Minneapolis.
This
happened
just
in
the
last
round
or
nearly
the
sealing
out
how
much
funding
funding
we
could
have
gotten
from
the
Met
Council
in
the
last
round
is
about
1.1
million.
The
Met
Council
transferred
funds
into
their
TBR,
a
program
from
other
undersubscribed
rounds,
and
we
ended
up
getting
over
almost
2.2
million
dollars
in
grant
funding.
B
Another
reason
we
submit
lots
of
applications
is
that
the
grant
towards,
like
that
they
have
to
seek
funding
for
their
programs
and
refunding
from
time
to
time
when
they
can
prove
that
the
programs
are
oversubscribed.
It
preserves
their
ability
to
continue
to
get
funding
and
hopefully
get
more
funding
in
the
future.
Another
reason
is
because
you
know
we're
at
a
point
now
in
you
know,
early
October,
where
things
change
with
projects
and
sometimes
projects
drop
out
of
the
mix
on
there's
less
competition.
B
So
submitting
everything
that
we
think
is
eligible
is
a
good
way
to
preserve
the
maximum
amount
of
grant
funding
but
timeline
for
the
decision
making.
We,
as
staff
will
continue
to
review
the
applications
from
now
through
November
1.
In
almost
all
these
cases,
applications
are
submitted
by
the
city
on
behalf
of
the
projects.
The
Grand
Tours
will
take
the
period
from
November
1
until
late
December
to
review
them
rank
them
score
them.
They
will
then
issue
staff
reports
or
get
final
decisions
made.
B
We
will
know
who's
going
to
get
money
and
who's,
not
probably
in
the
late
December
to
late
January
range
and
in
most
cases
those
funds
are
available
immediately
for
projects
and
want
to
start
their
investigations
or
remediations
right
away.
You
asked
about
our
success
in
securing
grants
in
the
past
several
rounds.
I'll
give
you
two
examples.
In
the
spring
round,
we
were
successful
in
getting
grant
funding
for
12
out
of
the
15
Minneapolis
projects
that
sought
funding.
B
We
got
about
four
point:
nine
million
dollars
in
total,
the
next
closest
city
we
had.
We
got
14
of
the
22
grants
that
the
grand
tourers
award
of
the
next
closest
city
got
to
in
the
round
before
that
12
out
of
the
14
Minneapolis
projects
that
were
seeking
funding
were
successful
in
getting
some
or
all
of
their
funding.
So
we
got
12
grants.
12
projects
were
awarded
grants
a
total
of
17
individual
grants
out
of
the
35
that
the
three
grantor
is
awarded
over
the
last
ten
years.
B
We
have
typically
averaged
about
25%
of
the
deed
funding.
That's
been
awarded
about
a
third
of
the
Met
Council
funding
and
we've
gotten
about
a
half
of
the
Hennepin
County
funding.
I
started
doing
this
for
the
city
in
2007
from
2007.
Through
the
spring
round
of
this
year,
we
successfully
submitted
361
applications.
They
got
funding
from
Minneapolis
projects.
The
total
grant
funding
amount
is
about
85
million
dollars.
B
You
also
asked
about
other
information
that
might
be
useful.
I
will
point
out
that
there's
a
section
that
we
added
to
the
staff
report
that
has
not
been
in
Prior
reports.
It
has
to
do
with
project
readiness.
All
of
the
Grand
Tours
are
getting
increasingly
concerned
about
circumstances
under
which
they've
awarded
money
to
projects
in
Minneapolis
and
elsewhere
that
had
not
moved
forward.
So
they've
asked
us
to
sort
of
ramp
up
our
review
of
projects.
B
Frankly,
a
lot
of
these
projects
have
to
submit
pre
applications
to
us,
while
projects
are
still
in
the
formative
stages
and
things
change
on
a
day
to
day
basis
with
some
of
these
projects.
So
we
included
a
line
in
the
staff
report
that
says,
city
staff
will
continue
to
monitor,
monitor
the
progress
of
the
projects
referred
to
here
in
during
September
and
October.
Applications
for
any
given
project
will
not
be
submitted
by
the
city
on
November
1.
B
If,
in
the
opinion
of
city
staff,
that
project
will
not
be
able
to
meet
the
grand
tourers
project,
readiness
expectations.
As
of
the
November
1
application
deadline,
we
basically
are
hoping
that
you
give
us
the
discretion
to
not
submit
to
the
grand
tourers
applications
that
have
a
low
probability
of
being
awarded,
and
that's
because
projects
do
change
pretty
much
on
a
day
to
day
basis.
B
I
think
that
addressed
most
of
the
questions
that
you
were
raised,
the
projects
that
were
submitting
to
you
in
many
cases,
don't
have
all
of
their
ducks
in
a
row.
In
some
cases
they
haven't
finalized
their
financing.
They
made
preliminary
presentations
to
neighborhood
groups,
but
we
try
to
review
them
and
figure
out
if
there's
some
type
of
fatal
flaw
in
the
project.
B
A
B
So
the
changes
I
was
going
to
suggest
or
request.
There
is
one
project
that
we
had
discussions
with
up
through,
including
yesterday
about
project
readiness
and
that
project
has
opted
to
withdraw
its
pre
applications
and
for
that
reason
we
would
like
to
modify
the
deed
met,
Council
and
TBR
a
applications
to
remove
references
to
the
varying.
A
B
Korean
Irving
project
also,
it
was
brought
to
our
attention
that
one
of
the
projects,
the
Sons
of
Norway,
had
intended
to
seek
funding
from
the
Met
councils
TBR
a
program
that
was
inadvertently
omitted
from
the
staff
report
and
from
that
resolution.
So
we
would
like
to
add
the
Sons
of
Norway
project
to
the
TBR,
a
resolution.
That's
in
your
packet
and
I'll
work
with
the
clerk's
office
to
get
whatever
additional
documents
are
needed
to
process
that
right.
A
A
B
A
A
C
Madam
chair
members
of
the
council,
are
the
committee.
Our
first
item
is
the
sale
of
701
Newton
Avenue
north
through
the
Minneapolis
Homes
Program.
As
you
know,
the
policies
of
the
program
were
established
by
the
City
Council
on
December
15
and
December
11
2015
7
to
1
Newton
was
acquired
on
October
23rd
2015
from
Hennepin
County.
That's
tax
forfeited
land
for
its
appraised
value
of
$2,000.
C
Previously
701
Newton
was
sold
to
auspicious
living
LLC,
but
they
failed
to
close
the
staff
remarketed,
a
property
reviewed
six
applications
in
accordance
with
the
manual
and
recommends
the
sale
of
701,
Newton
Avenue
north
to
lolli,
Sachi
and
Nara,
and
sandeep
kumar
at
assume
million
for
its
appraised.
They
have
$2,000.
The
property
was
constructed
in
1940
and
is
a
twelve
hundred
and
forty-two
square-foot
one-bedroom
one-bath
single-family
home
lolli
and
Sandeep
intend
to
rehabilitate
the
property
as
a
one-bedroom,
one-bath
single-family
home
by
investing
$45
$149
to
live
in
as
the
owner
occupants.
C
Lolli
and
Sandeep
are
recommended
as
the
purchaser
because
they
intend
to
be
owner
occupants
and
have
an
experienced
general
contractor
who
has
completed
a
number
of
Minneapolis
Holmes
projects.
Although
ctw
group
and
clean
investments
were
hired,
they
were
not
recommended,
as
both
have
several
projects
underway
through
Minneapolis
homes
and
there's
some
concern
about
capacity.
The
Northside
residence
Redevelopment
Council
received
notification
on
May
10
2017.
They
recommended
another
applicant
char
mark
as
ISA,
but
staff
believes
that
his
rehab
estimates
do
not
meet
the
minimum
rehabilitation
requirement.
C
A
There
any
questions
for
mr.
Ramadhan
on
item
number
one
seeing
none.
Thank
you
for
your
report,
we'll
open
the
public
hearing
on
item
number,
one
which
is
a
land
sale
at
701,
Newton,
Avenue
north.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
to
this
issue?
Please
step
forward
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
hi.
A
E
A
C
Additionally,
we
recommend
awarding
up
to
$20,000
to
Alisha
steel
for
the
Minneapolis
Homes
homebuyer
incentive
funds,
1610
Park,
Avenue,
North,
Oak,
Park
Avenue
north
was
acquired
on
January
16
2009
from
the
Bank
of
New
York
Trust
for
$1
staff
has
continually
continuously
marketed
this
property
to
a
listserv
of
now
over
1,700
people,
and
this
is
the
only
application
received
for
this
property.
The
lot
size
is
44
feet
by
136
or
approximately
five
thousand
nine
or
84
square
feet.
C
The
purchaser
intends
to
invest
one
hundred
ninety
five
thousand
to
build
a
3-bedroom,
2bath
single-family
home
and
to
live
in
as
the
owner
occupant.
The
purchaser
is
also
secured.
The
service
is
an
experience,
City
certified
small
underutilized
business
program,
minority
contractor
envirotec
for
the
construction,
CPS
construction
management
staff,
review,
the
scope
of
work
and
estimates
submitted
by
the
applicants
builder
and
confirm
they
are
sufficient
to
meet
the
minimum
rehabilitation
building
standards
of
the
program.
C
We'd
also
like
to
note
that
this
is
only
the
second
homebuyer
incentive
that
we're
awarding
and
we
do
expect
to
have
at
least
one
more
before
the
end
of
this
our
this
year.
We
also
noted
that
the
North
Side
residence
redevelopment
Council
received
notification
on
June
June
21st,
2017
Alisha.
Steel
is
actually
here
with
us
today
as
well,
and
if
there
any
questions
of
me
or
of
her
are.
A
There
any
questions
for
mr.
Raman
on
item
number
2,
seeing
none.
Thank
you
for
your
report,
we'll
open
the
public
hearing
on
item
number
two,
which
is
a
land
sale
at
16,
Oak,
Park,
Avenue
North!
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
to
this
issue,
come
on
up
state,
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
hello.
F
A
It's
wonderful
that
you're
here
today
and
congratulations
to
you
and
I'm
sure.
Within
one
moment
you
will
be
the
proud
owner
of
1610
or
Park
Avenue,
and
thank
you
for
your
commitment.
Thank
you.
So
much
is
there
anyone
else
here
to
speak
to
this
issue,
seeing
none
we'll
close
the
public
hearing
council
member
Frye.
Thank.
E
A
G
You,
madam
chair,
we
have
an
application
before
us
for
an
on
sell
wine
with
strong
beer
license,
Class
E
by
sovereign
Goods,
grocery
LLC,
doing
businesses
Carly
coffee.
They
currently
operate
with
a
restaurant
and
sidewalk
cafe
and
they're
upgrading
to
wine
and
strong
beer.
Now
this
location
was
previously
at
Dunn
brothers,
coffee,
it's
located
in
that
character,
on
Ward
10
at
821,
Westlake
Street
and
the
interior,
seating
for
53
persons
and
an
exterior
sidewalk
cafes
with
seating
for
eight
sovereign
goods.
Grocery
LLC
is
a
registered
Minnesota
corporation
and
is
owned
by
Christine
grimace.
G
This
application
does
require
a
public
hearing
and
we
notified
all
residents
and
property
owners
within
600
feet
of
the
premises.
Today's
public
hearing,
we
also
notified
the
Kerrigan
Lowry
Hill
East
neighborhood
associations
and
the
Lake
Street
Council.
We
received
three
responses
from
our
notifications
of
today's
public
hearing.
If
all
were
in
favor
of
this
application,
staff
finds
they
meet
all
of
our
requirements
and
staffs
recommendation
is
that
the
application
be
approved.
A
Okay,
good
attention.
First
to
the
hearing,
then
we'll
get
the
time
we're
going.
So
this
is
a
new
business
license
for
Carly
coffee
in
the
10th
Ward.
This
is
a
public
hearing
on
item
number
three.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
to
this
issue?
Anyone
come
on
up
just
a
little
commercial
about
your
business
would
be
great.
H
Name
is
Christine
rummells,
my
husband,
Hawkins
Cesar
and
I
have
loaned
sovereign
grounds
coffee
shop
on
48th
in
Chicago
for
over
20
years,
and
we
bought
this
space
from
Mike
Carly
and
July
first
and
have
hugely
expanded.
The
food
menu
and
uptown
enjoys
the
food,
but
the
coffee
not
so
much
in
evening
it
would,
they
would
prefer
other
things
to
drink.
So
you're.
A
Gonna
sell
other
things
you're
going
to
sell
other
things,
Oh
ice.
A
I
You,
madam
chair,
this
is
a
real
privilege
because
we've
known
obviously
the
folks
at
sovereign
grounds
and
accounting
Kris
for
a
long
time
and
I
know
there'll,
be
a
terrific
property
owners
and
business
operators
and
a
great
contribution
to
the
Uptown
neighborhood.
So
I'd
like
to
move
approval
of
this
item,
approval.
A
J
G
You,
madam
chair,
we
have
an
application
by
Porto
veracruzano
to
LLC,
doing
businesses
Porto
veracruzano
at
331,
East
Lake
Street.
They
currently
operate
a
restaurant
there
with
a
on
sale.
Wine
and
strong
beer
license
Class
E,
and
they
would
like
to
upgrade
to
full
on
sale
liquor
with
Sunday
sales,
Class
E.
G
They
have
operated
since
at
this
location
since
December
of
2016,
that's
in
the
central
neighborhood
in
the
Ninth
Ward
they
have
interior
customer
seating,
472
persons
and
no
exterior
seating.
At
this
time,
they're
open
from
11:00
10:00
p.m.
Monday
through
Thursday
and
11
a.m.
to
2
a.m.
Friday
through
Sunday.
If
they
provide
food
service
during
all
hours
of
operation,
Berto
veracruzano
2
is
a
Minnesota
cup
corporation
formed
on
October
3rd
2016
principle.
Owners
are
Marco,
Mendez,
bravo
and
jose
carrasco.
G
This
upgrade
requires
the
public
hearing.
We
notified
all
persons
within
600
feet
of
this
premises.
We
also
notified
the
central
area
neighborhood
development
organization.
In
the
Lake
Street
Council.
We
received
3
responses
from
our
notification.
Today's
public
hearing
1,
was
in
favor
of
the
application
and
2
were
opposed.
The
truther
were
opposed
to
the
application
indicated
that
this
restaurant
was
already
selling
alcohol,
distilled
spirits
without
the
correct
license
and
that
they
were
open
late
at
night
into
the
early
morning
and
were
a
nuisance.
G
We
reviewed
all
of
the
police
calls
for
service
and
police
reports
for
this
address
for
the
past
couple
years
and
found
no
police
activity
at
this
site
at
all.
The
the
business
licensing
department
has
not
received
any
complaints
of
this
reported
activity,
and
we
also
conducted
an
unannounced
inspection
this
week
and
found
no
evidence
of
alcohol
violations
at
all
upon
complete
review
of
this
application.
In
what
we
hear
today
is
public
hearing
staff
is
recommending
that
this
application
for
upgrade
to
an
sell
liquor
be
approved,
are.
A
There
any
questions
for
mr.
Wilson
on
item
number
4
Singh.
None.
Thank
you
for
your
report,
we'll
open
the
public
hearing
on
item
number
4,
which
is
a
license
upgrade
grade
for
Puerto
Veracruz
Ayano
veracruzano.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
to
this
issue?
Please
step
forward
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
K
A
You
for
being
here
today
is
there
anyone
else
here
to
speak
to
this
issue.
Anyone
anyone
sing,
none
will
close
the
public
hearing,
councilmember
Cano.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I
would
like
to
move
this
item
forward.
This
item
has
been
moved
for
approval,
further
comments
or
questions,
seeing
none
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
any
opposed.
That
item
is
approved.
A
Okay,
so
we're
gonna
try
to
get
the
timer
set
up,
while
the
staff
report
is
going
on
so
that
everyone
will
get
two
minutes
to
speak
and
you'll
know
how
it
works.
Based
on
the
timer
and
we'll
figure
that
out
all
the
staff
is
giving
their
reports
I'll
note
for
the
public
hearing,
we
really
want
your
comments.
A
L
You,
madam
chair
committee,
members
Noah
Stockman,
director
of
regulatory
services,
I,
have
a
brief
presentation
on
number
five
and
six,
which
are
two
separate
ordinance
changes
on
the
same
subject
matter,
which
is
short-term
rentals
both
grant
willson
from
the
CPA
business
licensing
and
Joel
fussa
from
the
city
attorney's
office
will
hopefully
chime
in
as
appropriate,
and
grant
will
share
a
portion.
The
presentation
as
well.
L
Met
from
from
excuse
me,
workgroup
met
from
fall
of
last
year
until
May
of
this
year
and
included
a
list
of
staff
from
intergovernmental
relations,
the
coordinators
office,
regulatory
services,
cpad
the
health
department,
if
City,
Attorney's,
Office
finance
and
then
meet
Minneapolis,
and
during
that
time
we
also
met
with
external
stakeholders,
including
the
lodging
industry
and
then
as
well
as
interacting
with
the
industry
itself.
Airbnb
Expedia
and
other
partners.
L
As
the
workgroup
met,
we
looked
into
financial
and
tax
implications,
looked
at
other
city
ordinances,
around
the
state
and
around
the
country,
the
city's
housing
rental
markets
and
then,
as
I
mentioned,
took
input
from
stakeholder
groups
through
the
work
we
defined
a
short-term
rental
as
rental.
The
dwelling
unit
for
a
period
of
less
than
thirty
consecutive
days
for
two
as
tourists
or
transient
use.
L
To
just
show
a
slide
that
summarizes
other
jurisdictions.
The
the
policies
in
other
jurisdictions
vary
depending
on,
though,
on
what
each
local
government
unit
wants
to
do.
Bloomington
Minnesota,
for
example,
completely
prohibits
short-term
rentals,
while
our
neighbors
in
st.
Paul
are
voting
tomorrow
to
adopt
their
ordinance
and
as
you
can,
as
you
can
see,
as
you
look
through,
there
are
ordinances
around
this.
E
I'm
sure
mr.
Chuck
mean
you
just
glossed
over
an
important
fact:
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
a
little
bit
more.
It
sounded
like
you
were
saying.
If
you
are
presently
occupying
a
room
or
the
vast
majority
of
a
home
in
which
you
own,
it
goes
through
a
different
criteria
if
one
of
the
rooms
are
going
to
be
rented
out
on
the
short-term
basis.
Madam.
L
You
so
currently
short-term
rentals
are
not
explicitly
regulated
in
Minneapolis.
As
a
result,
there
are
a
couple
of
implications.
One
is
that
we
have
as
a
city
no
ability
to
get
into
properties
where
we
have
life
safety
or
inspection
related
concerns.
We
have
no
real
concept
of
what
the
scope
of
the
industry
is
in
the
city.
There's
not
a
way
for
the
city
to
understand
the
universe
of
properties
being
rented
in
this
manner
and
we're
also
not
collecting
tax
revenue
associated
with
short-term
rentals.
L
E
Give
another
one
so
it's
mentioned
kind
of
industry
impact
and
the
the
necessity
to
have
some
form
of
safeguards
in
there
and
if
sorry,
I,
just
have
a
question
for
mr.
fussy
on
this
topic.
So
mr.
fussy
is
it's
my
understanding
that
one
of
the
issues
was
that
there
was
some
legal
difficulty
in
that
hotels.
Presently,
peut
attacks,
hotels
are,
do
have
some
form
of
regulations
surrounding
them,
yet
the
short-term
rentals
did
not,
and
there
was
a
risk
of
lawsuit.
M
Madam
chair
councilmember
fry,
certainly
that's
true.
A
host
of
issues
were
were
looked
at
and
examined
and
in
reaching
out
all
the
interested
parties.
A
number
of
you
know,
potential
disparities
were
looked
at,
and
certainly
it
was
the
desire
of
everyone
to
make
sure
that
people
are.
You
know
operating
on
the
most
Fairfield
and
and
I
think
you
know.
M
L
So
we
have
drafted
steps
drafted
with
the
Attorney's
Office
two
ordinances,
one
specific
to
the
platforms
themselves,
so
that
specifically
regulates
each
of
the
platforms
that
assist
property
owners
in
offering
a
short-term
rental
and
then
one
specific
to
the
hosts
see
pet
business
licensing
would
be
responsible
for
the
ordinance
associated
with
the
platforms
and
regulatory
services.
My
staff
would
be
responsible
for
the
ordinances
associated
with
the
hosts
and
we
would
work
together
to
do
that.
I
will
turn
over
to
grant
Wilson
for
a
summary
of
the
business
licensing
portion.
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair
committee,
members
chapter
351
ordinance.
Amendment
proposal
before
you
today
is
a
new
chapter
and
it
will,
for
the
first
time,
license
short-term
rental
hosting
platforms.
We
felt
it
necessary
to
do
that
because
it
will
identify
the
true
owners
and
operators
of
each
hosting
platform.
We
actually
found
up
to
16
such
companies
listing
properties
in
Minneapolis
right
now.
It
will
ensure
that
the
hosting
platforms
remain
law-abiding.
G
It
also
has
a
provision
for
the
hosting
platforms
to
accurately
collect
taxes.
The
license
fee
recommended
for
the
hosting
platforms
is
brought
to
you
today
at
a
level
of
$5,000
/
hosting
platforms.
Now
it's
based
upon
a
review
of
staff
cost
recovery.
The
anticipate
staff
will
spend
about
40
hours
per
rental
hosting
platform
annually
that
will
comprise
about
$2,500
of
the
fee.
The
other
$2,500
will
be
used
to
pay
a
third-party
data
collection
service.
That
will
give
us
information
that
we
need
on
how
many
platforms
and
rental
dwelling
units
are
operating
in
the
city.
G
This
ordinance
proposal
was
requires
the
public
hearing
which
we'll
have
here
in
a
minute
but
to
notice
that
we
notified
all
short-term
rental
hosting
platforms
that
we
could
find.
We
notified
all
business
associations
and
neighborhood
associations
of
today's
public
hearing.
We
received
two
responses.
One
was
in
support
and
one
was
opposed
with
a
suggestion
that
we
not
allow
backyard
fire
pits
in
residential,
short-term
rentals,
because
they're
problematic
to
the
neighborhood.
A
L
You,
madam
chair
in
Chapter
244,
which
is
the
portion
that
would
be
an
inclusion
in
the
current
rental
licensing
code.
The
city
currently
has
25,000
licensed
rental
properties
that
encompasses
approximately
a
hundred
thousand
licensed
rental
units
in
the
city.
What
this
ordinance
amendment
would
do
would
be
to
add
to
that
portfolio
the
short-term
rental
version.
L
What
we
do
not
know
currently
is
how
many
currently
licensed
rental
properties
are
being
used
for
this
purpose,
but
this
would
bring
two
more
categories
into
rental
licensing,
so
you'll
see
on
the
graphic
in
front
of
you
that
on
the
left,
you'll
see
non-owner
occupied
home
that
is
being
rented
out
for
short-term
use.
In
this
case,
the
entire
unit
is
rented
out.
L
To
take
a
look
at
the
financial
impact
of
the
proposal,
the
estimated
sales
and
entertainment
tax
associated
with
the
industry
is
$700,000,
as
mr.
Wilson
mentioned,
it's
a
$5,000
per
platform
fee,
that's
associated
with
the
ordinance
and
then
the
license
fee
for
each
host
in
the
two
categories.
That
I
mentioned
would
be
a
forty
six
dollar
annual
fee.
L
Next
steps,
where
we
took
continued
on
schedule
here
in
committee
today,
the
passage
would
be
scheduled
for
October
20th
and
we
would
look
to
begin
accepting
applications
for
short-term
rental
licenses.
On
December
1st,
the
city
has
working
with
our
communications
department,
put
together
a
communications
plan
for
reaching
out
to
both
the
news,
media
and
current
property
owners
about
the
change.
We
would
add
additional
information
to
our
rental
property
owners
workshop
about
short-term
rentals
and
pursuant
to
chapter
351
in
the
ordinance
amendment
that
is
as
written.
A
L
L
A
Own
a
house
I
have
three
bedrooms:
I,
usually
sleep
in
one,
but
I
want
to
rent
the
whole
house
and
go
stay
with
my
boyfriend.
If
I
had
one
that'd
be
great,
but
if
I
didn't
go
stay
with
someone
else,
then
I'm
gonna,
rent,
my
house,
but
the
whole
house,
I'm
gonna,
stay
somewhere
else.
Do
I
have
to
be
registered.
Yes,.
L
L
A
A
A
N
A
N
L
A
E
You,
madam
chair,
so
for
everyone,
who's
listening.
First
off
the
the
sharing
economy
is
coming
to
town
in
a
major
way,
whether
it's
in
the
form
of
uber
and
lyft
and
ride-sharing,
or
it's
in
the
form
of
short-term
rentals
and
I
I.
Think
it's
a
very
innovative
new
business
type
and
it's
one
that
we
need
to
embrace
and,
as
mr.
fussy
pointed
out,
it's
also
one
that,
from
a
legal
perspective,
we
do
have
to
have
some
form
of
safety
guidelines
and
mechanisms.
E
Exactly
what
we're
doing
today,
speaking
only
for
myself
I'm
very
much
for
this
new
business
model,
I
think
when
you
have
a
cornucopia
of
different
stay
options
in
a
city
whether
it's
Hotel,
Motel,
bed-and-breakfast,
european-style
and
or
Airbnb
or
VRBO,
I
think
it.
This
just
adds
to
the
number
of
options
that
you
can
choose
and
it
makes
you
stay
in
a
city
better.
So
we're
all
for
this.
We
need
to
figure
out
how
to
do
this
right
and
obviously
there's
a
lot
of
technical
logistics
that
we're
sorting
through
right
now.
E
So
we
recently
got
a
letter
that
was
addressed
to
chair
person
Goodman
a
little
bit
ago.
That
identified
a
couple
of
areas
of
the
ordinance
that
were
of
concern
at
the
very
least
to
Airbnb
and
I.
Just
want
to
go
through
a
couple
of
those
to
make
sure
that
that
for
everybody's
purposes
they
understand
what
is
and
is
not
on
the
table.
So
mr.
E
Shipman,
the
the
first
segment
of
this
letter,
talked
about
MCO
244,
which
is
allowing
short-term
rental
operators
to
comply
with
new
regulations,
and
the
concern
was
that
short-term
rental
operators,
so,
in
other
words
those
renting
out
their
home.
The
concern
was
that
they
weren't
able
to
advertise
their
listings
as
they
completed
the
new
registration
process.
So
you
know
right
now:
we've
got
the
Superbowl
coming
to
town.
People
are
obviously
advertising
their
listings
and
their
homes
for
the
upcoming
Super
Bowl,
and
the
concern
was
that
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
do
that.
E
L
Chair
councilman
Frye,
that
is
correct.
Our
intent
is
to
make
this
as
simple
and
clean
as
possible,
and
so
we
have
no
intention
of
getting
in
the
middle
of
that.
Our
goal
is
to
help
educate
property
owners
as
we
move
forward
and
then
work
with
them
to
make
sure
that
they're
getting
their
properties
registered
as
the
process
continues.
So.
E
I
just
want
to
take
that
item
off
the
docket.
Anyone
who
is
advertising
for
the
Super
Bowl.
We
want
you
to
advertise
for
the
Super
Bowl.
We
recognize
that
you're
booked
in
your
place
and
tongues,
sometimes
six
months
a
year
or
two
years
in
advance.
There
is
no
restriction
at
all
on
that
in
this
ordinance,
and
so
that
is
not
a
legitimate
concern.
E
The
next
one
is
MCO
351,
and
so
there
were
a
few
forms
in
here,
and
this
is
this
is
really.
This
really
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
short-term
rental
owners.
This
really
has
to
do
more
with
the
platform's,
but
I
want
to
go
through
this
to
be
very,
very,
very
specific.
So
one
of
the
first
things
that
Airbnb
asked
for
was
for
there
to
be
no
regular
download
requirement,
in
other
words,
no
requirements
that
the
city
was
able
to
be
able
to
download
all
of
the
information
on
a
monthly
or
bimonthly
or
annual
basis.
E
L
Chair
council,
member
fred,
that
is
correct.
Well,
we
would
prefer
to
have
a
regular
download
of
information
from
the
platforms
they
did
object
to
that
and
in
our
multiple
conversations
with
Airbnb
and
Expedia,
and
the
work
that
our
attorneys
did
with
theirs
to
find
a
common
ground,
we
did
remove
that
item
from
the
requirements.
Okay,.
E
So
Airbnb
said
they
didn't,
want
a
regular
download
requirement
so
to
be
rbo
and
we
said:
ok,
no
download
requirement.
Second,
there
was
a
concern
about
sharing
of
data.
So
how
often
the
data
needed
to
be
shared,
they
said
they
didn't
want
the
data
being
shared
and
we
said:
ok,
we're
not
going
to
share
the
data.
Is
that
right,
Madame.
E
L
Schirmer
Fred,
that
that
is
correct.
I
think
the
other
place
that
there
may
be
a
need
for
the
platforms
to
share
under
a
legal
process
would
be
if
we,
for
some
reason,
as
part
of
our
normal
process
revoked
the
rental
license
associated
with
the
property,
short-term
or
long-term
rental,
that
we
would
ask
the
platform's
to
remove
that
property
from
the
platform,
given
that
it
is
no
longer
legally
allowed
to
be
rented
in
the
city
right.
E
And
now
we
just
be
in
compliance
with
everything
that
we
already
do
right.
So,
in
other
words,
we're
saying
that
you
know
right
now,
I
mean
put
put
Airbnb
put
VRBO
aside,
put
all
short-term
rentals
aside
right
now.
We,
when,
when
a
landlord
signs
up,
they
have
a
registration,
they
get
it,
they
get
a
license
to
rent
their
property
out
and
if
they're
messing
around,
if
there
is,
if
the
property
is
in
unhittable
conditions,
and
if
the
license
gets
taken
away,
they're
no
longer
able
to
have
a
rental
property
anymore.
We
don't
do
this.
E
Often,
this
is
not
like
the
going
rate,
but
we
at
the
city
need
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
have
slumlords
in
the
city
right
I
mean
so
that's
what
we
presently
do,
and
all
we're
saying
is
the
exact
same
criteria
would
also
apply
to
everyone
else.
In
other
words,
if
the
can
missions
are
horrible,
which
I'm
sure
they're
not
by
the
way,
but
if
the
conditions
are
horrible,
just
like
we
don't
allow
a
slumlord
to
exist,
we
also
wouldn't
allow
a
slumlord
to
exist
in
the
Airbnb
contest.
E
Okay,
and
so
I
mean
this-
these
are
these
are
not
new
requirements.
These
are
the
same
exact
requirements.
We've
got
for
literally
every
single
of
their
property
in
our
entire
city
and
all
were
saying.
Is
you
know
if
a
if
a
rental
license
gets
taken
away,
which
almost
I
mean?
What's
the
percentage
of
the
time
that
that
happens,
I
mean
added
an
untold
number
of
rental
licenses
in
this
city?
What
have
we
taken
away?
One
or
two
in
the
last
several
years,
I
mean
if
you,
madam.
L
E
Point
out
exactly
right:
okay,
that's
that's
really
helpful,
so
I
just
wanted.
You
know
before
before
we
we
started
the
comment.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
it
that
everybody
kind
of
had
an
understanding
as
to
where
things
were
so
because
a
lot
of
times
when
these,
like
this
ordinance
process,
goes
through
some
confusion
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
everybody
was
on
the
same
page,
I'm
sure
councilmember,.
I
You,
madam
chair
mr.
Shipman,
when
we
were
on
your
earlier
slide
that
had
the
revenues
attached
to
it,
we're
talking
about
the
estimated
sales
and
entertainment
tax
and
as
councilmember
Frey
was
just
talking
about
no
sharing
of
data.
I
understand
that
I
understand
that
that
would
be
important
and
I
don't
want
to
collect
data,
certainly
don't
want
to
share
it.
How
would
we
verify
sales
tax
collection,
I.
I
I
These
are
hotel
or
short-term
rental
licenses
will
be
a
state
sales
tax
and
it
would
be
remitted
according
to
their
own
formulas
and
processes,
but
it's
the
state
of
Minnesota
that
will
be
actually
collecting
the
taxes.
Is
that
fair
and
that's
why
we
would
not
be
in
the
data
collection
data
downloading
kind
of
position,
because
it's
not
our
job
to
audit
whether
these
sales
taxes
have
been
collected?
Is
that.
A
There
any
further
comments
or
questions
from
the
committee:
okay,
Singh,
none!
You
can
take
your
report
down
just
a
little
bit
clear.
The
screen.
If
anyone
who
would
like
to
testify
is
here
that
would
be
great
I'd
ask
you
to
just
come
up
to
the
microphone.
Seven
people
have
signed
in
in
advance
and
why
don't
you
just
go
ahead
and
line
up
and
and
we'll
have
time
for
everybody.
We're
gonna
try
to
use
the
two-minute
clock
if
possible,
and
we
would
ask
you
first
to
just
state
for
the
clerk.
O
O
We
use
it
ourselves
and
rent
it
out
through
Airbnb,
when
we
can't
be
there
we're
asking
that
the
second
home
can
be
included
in
the
tier
two
short-term
Airbnb
category,
in
contrast
to
Airbnb
hosts
who
own
and
operate
several
properties
or
owned
one
and
have
a
second
home
that
they
live
in.
We
actually
do
live
in
this.
We
don't
live
in
it
all
the
time,
but
we
are
regular
occupants
of
this
property.
O
So
we
feel
we
should
not
be
included
in
the
rent
non-owner
occupied
category.
It
would
require
changing
tier
two
wording
from
owner
lives
at
the
property
to
owner
lives
at
the
property
on
a
regular
basis
or
maybe
creating
another
category,
if
that's
necessary
for
partially
owner-occupied
properties.
O
I
would
like
to
make
the
case
that
we're
not
operating
this
little
bit
as
a
business
and
shouldn't
be
subject
to
the
type
of
regulations
that
invest
in
investment
properties
usually
are.
This
is
truly
our
our
second
home,
and
we
are
here
quite
often
in
2012.
We
purchased
this
foreclosed
property,
we,
it
was
a
mess.
We
did
a
lot
of
work
to
make
it
livable
and
we
had
three
of
our
sons
living
in
this
area,
which
is
the
reason
we
chose
to
come
here.
O
We
have
done
a
lot
of
work
through
it.
We
found
our
kids
growing
up
and
one
son
moved
away,
and
so
we
weren't
being
up
here
as
often
as
as
possible
and
decided
to
try
Airbnb
my
daughter-in-law
lives
in
the
property
in
the
area,
so
she's
always
available
for
our
guests,
and
we
call
this
our
urban
cabin.
O
So
we
have
had
wonderful
experiences
with
the
guests.
We
have
Airbnb
has
a
great
review
process,
so
I
don't
accept
people
that
I
that
do
not
have
good
reviews.
People
do
not
give
my
property
good
reviews.
If,
if
it's
not
what
it
says,
it
is.
So
we
all
look
at
that
and
balance
that,
and
in
this
particular
case,
if.
O
P
Patrick
Porter
1768,
Colfax,
Avenue
South,
madam
chairman
and
committee
I
run
an
air
B&B
and
I
have
a
license
and
I
have
a
five
star
rating
and
I
probably
have
had
over
600
guests
and,
like
the
lady
before
me,
said,
she
isn't
unit
for
business.
All
my
profits.
100%
goes
to
channel
to
the
Minneapolis
Art
Institute
and
the
Walker
do
I
pay
taxes.
Air
B&B
sends
me
a
little
love
letter.
That
says
just
like
your
w-2
form.
We
sent
this
to
the
state
of
Minnesota
and
we
sent
this
to
the
federal
government.
P
So
I
am
paying
taxes.
What
this
does
for
me
pushing
80
years
old,
is
that
I
get
all
these
young
people
in
and
I
say
to
them.
Would
you
please
explain
to
this
old
bastard?
What
you
do,
because
all
you
kids
are
in
careers
that
weren't
out
there
when
I
was
there
I
also
have
on
my
air
B&B
situation.
All
people
are
welcome,
so
I
get
people
from
Asia
I
get
the
gay
crowd,
I
get
black
people,
I
get
white
people
and,
if
they're
purple
they
come
through
the
door
too.
P
P
A
P
Q
You
for
the
opportunity
to
address
you
in
the
meeting.
My
name
is
Scott
Owens,
one
of
our
addresses
1174
14000
southeast,
my
wife
and
I
got
involved
in
the
short-term
rental
business
about
eight
years
ago.
We'd
been
regular
landlords
for
12
years.
Before
that
there
were
three
things
that
I
wanted
to
mention
today.
One
I
understand
the
situation,
because
how
do
you
differentiate
between
roommates
and
short-term
and
all
the
rest?
Q
I
just
have
a
small
concern
if
somebody
has
gone
through
a
whole
bunch
of
rental
inspections
that
you
know
what's
happening,
if
there's
no
inspection
and
people
are
staying
there
now,
I
know
that
Airbnb
has
checkmarks
free
we've
got
CO.
Detector
is
no
alarm.
You
know
all
that,
but
I
do
have
a
concern.
I
just
wanted
to
mention.
Q
Yes,
group
didn't
want
one
up,
and
you
know:
we've
had
a
lot
and
I
I
can
say
that
from
the
point
of
your
taxes,
there's
sales
tax
in
the
hospitality
taxes
in
Minneapolis,
and
we
have
paid
every
single
penny
on
every
single
short-term
rental
over
the
last
years.
It's
not
hard
to
do
that.
I
mean
you
have
to
register
with
the
state,
get
sales
tax,
ID
and
all
the
rest
of
that.
But
I,
you
know,
I
got
the
impression.
Some
people
were
thinking.
Q
No
taxes
had
ever
been
paid
by
any
of
us
how
it
you
know,
that's
not
the
case
with
everybody.
Last
and
I
guess
most
important
from
my
point
of
view.
My
wife
and
I
had
properties
we
converted
into
short-term,
had
furnished
rentals
and
over
the
over
time
we
have
also
rented
properties
that
we
then
rent
short
term.
After
furnishing
and
the
concept
of
the
platform,
you
know
we're
not
actually
collecting
fees
from
people
etc.
Q
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that,
in
the
definition
of
a
platform
you're
not
talking
about
somebody
just
you
know,
has
an
advertising
website,
which
is
what
we
have
I
mean.
We've
got
you
know
dozens
of
properties
list
like
now
on
our
website,
but
it's
all
advertising
so
I'd
hate
to
you
know
have
somebody
come
to
us
and
we're
we're
paying.
You
know
whatever
we
have
to
pay
through
Airbnb
and
all
the
rest.
Q
Isn't
somebody
you're
supposed
to
be
paying
to
so
if
somebody
could
pay
attention
to
the
definition
when
you're
getting
down
to
the
nitty-gritty
on
that?
That
would
be
great
but
I'm
pleased
to
hear
what
I've
heard
so
far.
You
know
it
seems
to
be
necessary
regulation
you're
putting
in
place
and
definitely
appreciate
that
part
of
it.
Thank.
R
My
name
is
Lance
Bass
I
own,
a
property
on
36:28
Nicollet
Avenue
in
Minneapolis
I
also
started
at
the
vacation
rental
Alliance.
Here
Minnesota
we
have
about
190
members,
I've
been
actively
involved
with
regulations
here,
st.
Paul
Stillwater
and
quite
a
few
other
places
and
I've
spoken
regularly,
not
that
I
enjoy
doing
it,
but
I
do
my
concern
today
is
with
the
$5,000
annual
fee
for
platforms,
mainly
because
I
have
a
small
local
platform.
R
That
is
it's.
It's
a
cost
prohibitive
type
of
fee
I
mean
I'd,
have
to
make
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
in
booking
'he's,
just
to
be
able
to
pay
that
five
thousand
dollars
just
to
break
even
and
I'm
advertising
in
minnesota
visitor
died,
Minneapolis
st.
Paul
visitor
guide
to
attract
and
bring
people
to
the
great
state
of
Minnesota
in
the
cities
which
the
larger
platforms
are
not
doing
so
I'm
asking
for
concession
you're
willing
to
give
these
large
platforms
like
Airbnb
and
VRBO.
R
R
R
So
that's
that's
my
main
thing.
I
just
would
like
to
I
mean
it's
the
cost
of
doing
business,
I'm,
hoping
that
you
can
get
some
sort
of
concession
in
there
for
that,
the
rest
of
it.
You
guys
have
done
a
great
job
compared
to
all
the
other
cities
that
dealt
with
these
making
you're,
making
this
process
extremely
easy,
straightforward
and
I
commend
you
for
it.
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
great
to
see
and
I
appreciate
your
they
work
on
this.
So.
A
Perhaps
you
and
Scott
Wright
could
just
touch
base
with,
because
this
is
a
new
issue.
I
had
not
heard
about
the
difference
between
licensing
platforms
that
are
big
national
companies
versus
small
or
local
folks
who
do
it
more
frequently,
I'm,
not
sure
if
our
staff
had
heard
about
that
or
not,
but
perhaps
you
could
just
hang
out
and
talk
to
staff
afterwards
about
this
angle.
That's
what
a
public
hearing
is
for
ya.
R
R
R
A
A
S
Hello
committee,
I'm
Cheri,
Desmond
may
I
live
at
26,
26,
West,
River,
Parkway,
south
and
Minneapolis
we've
been
using
a
section
of
our
home
upstairs
that
was
a
grandmother
apartment
as
an
Airbnb
rental.
For
the
last
three
years,
we've
had
many
many
guests,
it
has.
We
renovated
the
space,
we
have
increased
our
property
value
by
adding
a
fence
and
gardens
and
a
fit,
and
a
patio
and
back
the
people
that
come
are
incredibly
rich
from
all
over
the
world.
S
I've
had
people
from
from
every
continent
and
now
get
mostly
grandparents
and
parents
coming
to
visit
their
kids
and
grandkids
in
the
city,
we're
full
fall
winter
fall
spring
summer
and
during
the
winter,
almost
three-quarters
full.
So
for
us
it
has
been
a
rich
experience.
It
means
we
keep
up
our
household
so
that
the
Val
property
values
are
up.
S
My
husband
collects
trash
in
the
neighborhood
every
day
to
make
sure
that
our
guests
are
welcome
in
the
city
and
I,
send
our
guests
to
all
of
our
local
venues,
the
breweries
and
the
art
fairs
in
their
local
grocery
stores
in
restaurants.
So
to
me
it
seems
like
a
great
benefit
to
the
city.
I
appreciate
you're,
conscientious
examination
of
this
and
really
urge
you
to
vote
on
keeping
the
platform
as
you
have,
and
that
proposal
as
it
has
developed.
Thank.
T
Hi,
my
name
is
Angie
to
me:
I'm
at
23:13,
Cola
Avenue
and
it's
gonna
pull
my
nose
here.
I
hate
em,
with
Minneapolis
vacation,
rentals
I
have
a
vacation
rental
management,
company
and
I
manage
properties
that
I
own,
as
well
as
properties
for
other
people
in
Minneapolis
and
in
the
surrounding
area.
First
I
want
to
thank
you,
the
City
Council
and
all
those
involved
in
drafting
the
regulations
that
allow
us
to
continue
providing
affordable,
comfortable
and
from
the
accommodations
for
visitors
to
Minneapolis.
T
I
began
offering
homes
for
rent
on
VRBO
in
2005
and
I'm,
proud
to
say
that
I
was
the
very
first
vacation
rental
in
Minneapolis,
I've
seen
thing
a
lot
of
thing:
change
a
lot
of
things,
change
and
evolve
over
the
last
10
plus
years
in
2005.
At
that
time,
having
a
vacation
rental
meant
that
I
could
generate
income
during
vacancies
of
my
long
term
rentals
and
continue
paying
my
mortgages
for
my
investment
properties
during
the
downturn
downturn
in
the
market.
I
can
credit
my
vacation
rentals
with
really
helping
my
rental
property
business.
Stay
up.
T
Blog
I
also
credit
my
vacation
rentals
for
creating
strong
bonds
with
my
neighbors.
The
relationships
are
very
important
to
me
and
being
able
to
continually
improve
my
properties
and
keep
my
neighbors
informed
about
my
homes
has
strengthened
my
relationships
in
the
neighborhood
and
the
community.
I
also
feel
that
it
improves
the
value
of
our
neighborhoods
and
brings
a
significant
amount
of
income
to
our
restaurants,
such
as
manning's
cafe
down
the
street.
T
T
U
Hello,
my
name
is
Susan
Terra
I
live
at
677,
13th
Avenue
in
Northeast,
Minneapolis
and
I
happen
to
own
a
Victorian,
triplex
and
so
I.
Don't
quite
know
it's
a
little
bit
unclear.
We
would
need
a
little
clarity
and
is
that
owner-occupied,
the
one
of
the
one
unit
I
rent
out
as
an
air
B&B,
the
other
is
just
on
the
general
rental
market.
So
I'm
not
quite
it
wasn't.
That
part
wasn't
quite
clear.
U
The
other
thing
is
I'm.
Apparently
there's
an
occupancy
requirement
for
Minneapolis
long
term.
Rentals
would
also
apply
to
short-term
rentals,
which
those
criteria
are
a
little
bit
restrictive.
I
would
say,
because
one
family
and
up
to
two
other
people
could
stay
at
a
unit
together
and
frequently
we
have
for
young
people
who
are
unrelated
coming
to
stay
with
us.
J
My
name
is
Kristine
Barajas
and
I
live
at
4300,
Garfield
Avenue,
so
my
husband
and
I
have
been
in
that
home
for
28
years
and
we
raised
our
kids
two
blocks
away
and
they
went
to
the
South,
Minneapolis
schools
and
so
I
know
the
area
really
really
well.
Ten
years
ago,
during
the
whole
housing
crisis,
I
was
one
of
those
that
Wells
Fargo
got
and
I
was
afraid.
J
We
were
going
to
lose
our
home
and
we
fought
through
it
and
fought
through
it
and
we
we
held
on,
but
it
was
also
super
scary
time
for
us,
because
I
had
three
kids
in
high
school
and
all
of
them.
Looking
at
college
and
I
didn't
know
how
we
were
gonna
get
through
this
well
tell
you
what
has
made
the
big
difference,
because
also
our
taxes
are
taxes
on
you
know
what
property
taxes
are
like
in
south
Minneapolis,
it's
through
the
roof.
J
A
J
V
V
First,
can
the
hosting
platforms
be
prepared
and
will
they
be
in
compliance
by
the
time
rental
agreements
are
accepted,
which
is
beginning
right
now,
so
I'm
not
sure
how
the
timing
is
going
to
work,
but
maybe
there
needs
to
be
an
exception
for
the
Super
Bowl,
since
it's
coming
up
quickly,
second,
is
I
would
suggest
an
additional
category.
We
look
at
this
as
our
urban
cabin
as
well,
and
our
intent
is
not
to
rent
more
than
14
days
per
year.
V
So
I
would
suggest
that
this
piggybacks,
the
federal
tax
law,
the
Agusta
tax
rule,
which
is
basically
states
that
14
days
or
less
there
are
no
taxes
required
on
a
rental
of
that
length.
I
would
still
collect
the
fees,
I
understand
getting
a
handle
on
all
of
these
rental
units
out
there.
So
the
fees
and
the
license
fees
etc
I
think,
would
be
great,
but
this
additional
category
you
could
collect
the
fees
and
maybe
reduce
the
administrative
costs
to
the
city
and
to
the
state.
V
If
you
create
another
category,
where
you
say
14
days
or
less
might
not
require
as
many
hoops
to
be
jumped
through
and
then
just
to
reiterate
again
in
the
hosting
platform
in
our
building,
there
may
be
an
opportunity
for
us
to
hold
their
own
platform
as
well,
so
again
that
$5,000
fee
would
be
prohibitive,
but
we
are
close
to
the
Superbowl
venue
and
there
will
be
additional
venues
coming
up
with
NCAA
tournament,
etc.
So
we
may
want
to
host
our
own
platform.
V
But
again,
if
it's
X
amount
of
units
or
less,
maybe
we
can
get
around
that
$5,000
annual
fee.
If
there's
90
units
in
our
building
of
which
approximately
40
are
in
the
pool
that
that
wanna
rent,
so
maybe
there's
a
category
there
for
the
hosting
where
it
says
if
you
represent
less
than
a
certain
number
of
units,
can
get
around
that
$5,000
hosting
fee.
Thank.
W
W
It
started
doing
some
Airbnb
about
six
months
ago
on
a
couple
units
as
I
was
holding
some
units
for
someone,
and
it
was
just
so
cool
loved
it
and
the
people
that
were
coming
in
the
city
really
enjoyed
to
be
able
to
stay
in
old
1886
building,
as
opposed
to
a
beautiful
hotel,
downtown
right.
We
loved
our
hotels,
but
what
a
different
experience
that
we
provide
so
many
provide,
and
then
they
go
to
a
segue
cafe
or
bandbox.
You
know
some
local
places
to
eat,
so
it's
just
been
great
things
for
this
regulation.
W
I
think
it's
pretty
fair,
I'm
glad
that
Airbnb
will
be
collecting
the
sales
tax
portion.
I've
been
paying
it
one
less
thing
for
me
to
do
so.
That's
a
win-win
for
me
and
I
love
that
they
are
listening
to
these
new
small
business
entrepreneurs
who
are
starting
their
own
platforms.
Who
need
who
need
to
use
some
of
that
leverage
of
these
big
companies
so
that
they
can
get
their
foot
in
the
door
too?
So.
Thank
you
so
much
thanks.
X
I'm
sharing
numbers-
my
name
is
Dan
McElroy,
19:59,
Sloan,
Place,
Maplewood
and
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
mr.
lodging
association,
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity.
The
associations
position
for
many
years
has
been
that
we
believe
that
home
rentals
are
a
here.
Tuesday
they're
part
of
a
sharing
economy
that
our
guests
and
others
like,
but
that
they
should
compete
on
his
level
of
playing
field
is
as
reasonable
we're
supportive
of
the
two
ordinances
before
you
today.
We
applaud
the
distinction
between
true
home
sharing,
part-time
home
sharing
and
commercial
buildings.
X
When
we
hear
about
a
building
of
80
units,
that's
larger
than
about
a
third
of
the
hotels
that
are
our
members
and
we
think
the
distinction
between
licensed
and
unlicensed
hotels
was
important.
As
you
know,
there
are
38
hotels
in
Minneapolis
with
about
9,000
rooms.
They
employ
more
than
10,000
people,
and
many
of
those
jobs
like
virtually
all
of
them
are
good-paying
jobs
with
benefits,
hotels,
pay,
property
taxes
at
the
highest
category
and
the
commercial
3a
category
and
they're
important
to
our
economy
and
our
culture
and
our
brand,
and
they
can
easily
coexist
with.
X
We
regulated
appropriate
phone
sharing
and
we
think
of
that
and
the
ordinance
may
need
to
change
over
time.
This
is
a
really
good
place
to
start.
I.
Do
want
to
clarify,
however,
that
the
federal
law
exempts
home
rentals
for
14
days
from
the
federal
income
tax.
There
is
no
such
exemption
under
the
sales
tax,
and
so
that
sales
taxes
are
due,
they
may
not
always
have
been
collected,
but
from
day
one
and
dollar
one.
So
with
that,
madam
chair
and
members,
we
appreciate
your
efforts
on
behalf
of
the
community.
Thank.
Y
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Tim:
Connolly
I
live
at
4312
Washburn
and
my
wife
and
I
are
investors
and
we
owned
five
rental
properties
in
North
Minneapolis.
We
Airbnb
three
of
them
and
two
of
them
are
our
long-term
rentals
I
just
want
to
point
out,
there's
so
much
discussion
about
this
around
the
country
and
a
lot
of
it
focuses
on
problems
with
these
things
and
I
just
want
to
bring
a
different
point
of
view
to
it.
We
have
had
a
tremendous
amount
of
fun
with
this,
as
well
as
with
our
guests.
Y
We
bought
for
foreclosures
in
North
Minneapolis,
and
we
rehabbed
all
of
them
we're
closing
on
number
5
on
Friday,
and
we
will
fix
that
one
up
and
whether
we
short
term
or
long
term
is,
is
yet
to
be
determined.
We
are
certified
landlords
on
all
the
properties
we
have
been
through
Luther
Krueger's
course
on.
You
know
landlording,
so
we're
responsible.
One
of
the
places
we
bought
was
a
tier
3
when
we
bought
it.
It
is
now
tier
1
and
people
talk
again
as
I
say
about
problems.
Our
business
operates
on
great
reviews
without
great
reviews.
Y
Without
the
amazing
guest
experience,
we
have
no
business
across
our
three
Airbnb
s.
We
are
four
point
nine
out
of
five
stars.
You
know
across
the
board,
so
we
work
very
hard
at
that.
There
are
no
problems,
I
think
a
great
advantage
to
it
as
well.
We
have
eyes
on
four
different
neighborhoods
in
North.
Minneapolis
I
am
in
each
of
our
homes
multiple
times
each
week,
I
keep
eyes
on
them.
I
have
no
problem,
calling
the
police,
if
I,
think
that's
needed,
and
so
I
think
we
are
actually
a
pretty
good
benefit.
Y
People
talk
about
over
occupancy
honestly,
these
old
houses
in
North
Minneapolis
I'm,
worried
about
my
plumbing
I.
Don't
have
the
patience
for
over
occupancy
further
I
think
it's
great
for
the
city.
We
Instagram,
we
promote
Minneapolis,
we
promote
the
businesses.
Here
we
tell
people
where
to
get
a
good
beer
where
to
get
good
coffee
where
to
have
a
good
meal.
We
drive.
All
of
that
here
we
meet
and
greet
a
lot
of
our
guests.
We've
had
a
Swiss
band,
cutting
a
CD
stay
at
our
place.
We've
got
an
Irish
folk
band
stay
at
our
place.
Y
We've
had
a
Brazilian
volleyball
team
play
and
we
had
to
use
our
phones
to
communicate
because
I
don't
speak
Portuguese
and
we
are,
we
are
booked
for
Super
Bowl,
as
well
as
for
the
International
cross-country
competitions
at
Wirth
Park
in
January.
We've
got
a
team
from
Austria
coming
to
stay
with
us.
A
Y
A
Y
R
Z
Carol
leech
I
have
a
duplex
at
Logan,
Park,
11:26,
Jefferson,
Street,
North
East
I
am
a
tier
1
landlord
upstairs
and
I
rent.
My
a
guest
room
downstairs
I'm.
There
I
started
it
originally
after
the
2013
winter.
That
was
so
bad
and
I
became
very
isolated.
So
for
people
like
me,
older
people
are
people
who
work
at
home.
You
know
it's
wonderful
to
have
the
company
and
it's
really
like
building
family,
to
have
an
Airbnb
rental
I'm,
a
super
host
with
lots
of
good
reviews.
Z
Few
bad
reviews
can
kill
an
Airbnb
rental
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
young
people
who
are
starting
out
and
retired
people
in
my
neighborhood
plus
were
wonderful
for
the
businesses
of
Northeast.
There
are
no
hotels
or
or
motels
in
Northeast,
Minneapolis
and
I've
noticed
that
I
have
an
increasing
number
I
have
a
lot
of
people
from
all
over
the
world,
but
all
of
a
sudden
this
past
year
that
as
Airbnb
has
kind
of
taken
off
I
get
people
from
Wisconsin
and
South
Dakota,
even
Illinois,
coming
in
for
a
concert
or
coming
in.
Z
You
know
for
a
wedding
or
something
that
they
would
not
come
to
if
they
had
to
park
downtown.
Well,
there's
plenty
of
parking
on
my
block
or
in
my
neighborhood
I,
also
I
maintain
a
website
with
Al
I'm,
a
big
fan
of
the
Visitors
Bureau
I
pass
out.
Their
booklets
I
have
a
website
Carol's
airbnb.com,
where
I
advertise
all
sorts
of
things
going
on
in
the
city
and
a
Facebook
page
visit,
Northeast
Minneapolis,
where
I
post
news
about.
What's
going
on
in
Northeast,
the
only
thing
we've
questioned,
we
love
what
the
city
has
done.
Z
Incidentally,
we've
complemented
the
staff
with
some
of
the
council
members,
the
they've
met
with
us.
We've
talked
with
them.
There
have
been
hotel
people
there
as
well
and
so
forth,
but
we
have
asked
that
maybe
under
title
12
Part
C
were
there
exclusions
that
perhaps
you
could
make
it
as
obvious
that
you
intended
doing
to
exclude
people
who
are
renting
guest
rooms.
Great.
A
Unfortunately,
you
are
also
adorable,
but
we
have
to
keep
going.
Thank
you
for
your
testimony.
Let
me
just
get
a
sense
of
who
else
would
like
to
speak.
We
have
nine
minutes
left,
so
I
don't
want
to
cut
anyone
off
rather
than
maybe
telling
us
your
interesting
personal
story.
If
you
could
speak
to
the
regulation,
that
would
be
good
just
so
we
can
get
everybody
else
in.
Thank.
AA
You
so
my
name
is
gene
Buckley,
I'm,
45,
24,
45,
new
south
and
I've
contacted
Kim,
Keller
and
councilmember
Andrews
about
my
concern,
because
you
started
off
the
thing
saying:
I
need
to
be
clear
here
if
I
own
the
property
not
going
off
to
my
boyfriend's
house,
low
okay,
that
is
what
this
piece
of
paper
showed
us.
When
we
met
with
licensing.
When
you
read
it,
it
is
not
clear
didn't
when
I
contacted
Kim,
color
and
councilmember
Andrews,
they
say
we
are
purposely
being
silent
on
it.
Based
on
our
attorneys
recommendation
and
I
feel
strongly.
AA
AA
So
thank
you
for
saying
that
out
loud
and
I
also
support
that
and
also
I
came
today,
because
I
was
afraid
from
reports
on
the
news
that
I've
been
hearing
that
there's
been
a
lot
of
pushback
on
air
B&B
and
I'm,
pleasantly
surprised
that
you're
not
getting
that
today.
Now
I,
don't
know
where
those
people
are
who
opposed
to
it,
but
I
think
you're.
Hearing
from
the
hosts
at
least
today
that
it's
a
great
experience
for
us
yeah.
A
I
think
what
happens
as
the
news
says.
So
all
these
onerous
things
are
happening
in
some
city,
but
we're
not
but
we're
taking
it
up
at
the
same
time
and
it
scared
people
I,
know:
I
have
my
own
constituent
here
that
happened
with
and
I
encouraged
him
to
come
today.
So,
but
we
got
to
hear
all
the
interesting
stories
of
what
the
cool
things
people
are
doing
so
I
think
it
reinforces
that
the
shared
economy
is
alive
and
well
in
Minneapolis.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
hi.
AC
My
name
is
Laura
Bareilles
I
live
at
38,
45
Cedar
Avenue
I
have
in
a
900
square
foot
house
and
I
own,
a
duplex
with
two
one-bedroom
apartments
at
3300
Cedar
and
one
is
fully
rented
long
term,
the
other
one
I'm
turning
into
an
Airbnb
and
I,
totally
believe
in
a
level
playing
field.
I
was
very
concerned.
When
I
read
this
online
last
week.
It
seems
like
a
lot
of
the
language
has
changed,
but
it
was
really
unclear
to
me.
AC
It's
it's
a
little
more
clear
now,
but
I
would
like
more
clarity
about
it
before
it
would
go
into
effect
and
I
would
like
to
say
I'm,
not
a
big
investor.
I
have
one
property
which
I'm
not
maybe
I'm,
not
a
very
good
business
person,
but
I
would
say:
I
already
pay
a
lot.
It's
I've
had
a
rental
license
for
10
years.
I
pay
that
I've
had
inspections.
I
I
pay
an
extra
thousand
dollars
in
property
taxes
every
year,
because
I
don't
live
there.
AC
I
pay
double
for
garbage
and
water
there,
even
though
my
tenants
produce
hardly
any
garbage
and
use
hardly
any
water.
The
ESU
of
the
is
greatly
inflated
because
it's
considered
a
duplex
that
it's
they
charge
a
lot
more
for
the
water
than
and
the
water
is
actually
used.
So
I
would
just
like
to
say,
if
you
add
a
fee
of
a
hundred
and
seventy
five
dollars
just
to
register.
AC
AB
We,
you
know
we,
you
know
the
number
of
units
on
the
platform
or
a
percentage
of
gross
revenue
or
something
to
that
effect
because
doesn't
seem
like
at
playing
even
playing
field
where
an
Airbnb
may
be
paying
the
same
amount
as
a
small
platform
that
has
only
30,
condos
or
whatever.
I
also
appreciate
the
lodging
industry
saying
that
there
would
be
coexisting,
but
it's
a
hotel
building
is
completely
different
than
a
condo
building.
A
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I.
First
off
I
really
appreciate
everybody's
comments,
appreciate
everyone
for
coming
out.
This
is
this
is
a
new
form
of
business.
It's
an
innovative
model.
It's
and
it's
something
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
continually
embrace
as
the
the
business
world
were
living
in
changes,
and
we
think
we've
been
probably
seeing.
Is
it
changing
pretty
dramatically
in
the
near
future?
E
E
There
were
several
comments
that
I
think
will
ultimately
help
influence
the
the
ultimate
character
of
the
ordinance
and,
in
particular,
the
last
individual
made
a
I.
Think
a
really
intelligent
remark
about
you
know
if
you're
a
platform
that
only
has
five
individuals
on
and
it's
dramatically
different
than,
if
you
had
5,000
people
on
it,
perhaps
the
the
fee
should
be
adjusted
to
that
those
particular
so
I
think
these
are.
These
are
subject
matters
that
I'm
going
to
work
with
staff.
E
The
interim
between
today's
meeting
and
the
final
vote-
and
the
final
vote
may
not
even
happen
this
cycle
as
it's
it's
possible
that
we
need
to
continually
refine,
and
so
that
being
said,
I
think
we're
in
a
solid
place
to
start
from
so
I'm
going
to
move
to
approve
fully
acknowledging
that
there
will
likely
be
changes
that
happened
as
we
move
forward.
There
will
not
likely
be
things
that
I'm,
not
anticipating
and
that
we
can
correct
for
so
I'm
happy,
okay,.
N
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
the
vice
chair
of
FRA
for
the
work
and
a
continued
effort
to
refine.
What
we
have
is
a
solid
base,
as
you
put
it,
I
think.
The
commentary
that
we
had
here
helps
us
tweak
what
we
have
before
us
and
any
clarifications
I,
think
chair
and
indicated
staff
is
available
here
today
and
even
afterwards
it's
necessary,
make
sure,
there's
clarifications
on
any
of
the
language
and
then,
if
anything
needs
to
be
in
the
base,
ordinance
that
creates
a
permanent.
A
A
A
But
you
know
I
mean
if
I
had
to
say
I'd
take
a
look
at
one
of
the
larger
buildings
in
the
city
and
look
at
a
number
like
that.
I
would
also
encourage
you
to
talk
to
the
people
who
are
here
today
who
have
some
valuable
input.
One
of
the
pieces
of
public
participation
that
didn't
seem
I
didn't
hear
was
talk
to
people
who
do
this,
so
we
talk
tax,
PDR,
we've
talked
to
and
none
of
them
I
noticed
they're
here
today
and
if
you're
a
lawyer
for
any
of
these
big
platforms,
raise
your
hand.
W
A
He
already
wrote
us
a
letter
saying
he
doesn't
like
it
at
all,
so
I'm
not
sure
exactly
how
interested
I
am
in
hearing
from
him,
but
I
would
point
out
that
all
the
people
who
came
here
today
came
here
today
to
say
this
is
great
for
the
city
we
love
and
live
in.
That's
what
I
heard
that
and
that's
the
point
of
a
public
hearing
to
have
people
come
and
express
your
point
of
view
and
have
us
adjust
as
a
result
of
it.
A
That's
the
belief
in
government
that
we
all
are
here
to
participate
in,
and
so
I
do
think
it
would
make
sense
if
a
few
people
stayed
after
and
talked
to
our
staff
I
see.
Mr.
shuckman
is
happy
to
do
so
in
shaking
his
head
and
we
can
work
out
these
two
issues
and
then
you
will
leave
here
knowing
that
we're
not
intending
to
pass
this,
as
is,
but
we're
intending
to
pass
it
with
the
feedback
that
we
got
from
the
people
who
are
here
today
who,
quite
frankly,
were
from
all
over
the
city.
A
I
was
really
surprised,
I'm
sure
councilmember
fry
was
that
there
were.
It
wasn't
just
downtown
condo
owners,
or
it
wasn't
just
people
living
on
the
north
side,
trying
to
make
money
or
people
on
the
south
side
or
paying
really
high
taxes
and
can't
afford
to
pay
them.
So
they
have
to
rent
out
a
room.
It
was
really
across
the
board,
I
thought
and
so
I
just
want
to
pass
those
two
staff
directions
and
if
councilmember
fry
agrees,
he
might
actually
do
my
work
for
me
and
amend
this
because
he's
heard
the
same
thing.
E
You,
madam
chair
I'm,
going
to
do
your
work
for
you
real
quick
item
number
I'd
like
to
amend
and
tack
on
an
item
letter
C
at
the
end
of
two
44.1
84.
Five
standing,
short-term
rental
registration
is
not
required
for
a
homestead
status
property.
If
the
owner
lives
in
dwelling
unit,
only
a
portion
of
the
dwelling
unit
is
rented
and
the
owner
occupies
the
dwelling
unit
during
the
rental
period.
I
think
that
makes
sense,
and
then
you
can
invite
your
boyfriend
over.
A
E
A
A
That
item
is
approved
and
then
we'll
move
on
to
the
main
motion,
which
is
the
approval
of
items
5
&
6,
with
the
staff
direction
to
work
out
some
sort
of
difference
in
the
platform
size
and
platform
fee,
as
we
heard
from
people
today,
all
in
favor
of
councilmember
Fry's
motion
to
approve
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
any
opposed.
That
item
is
approved,
seeing
no
further
business
before
the
committee.
We
are
adjourned.