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From YouTube: July 17, 2017 City Planning Commission
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Minneapolis City Planning Commission
A
Good
afternoon,
I
will
call
to
order
the
July
17th
meeting
of
the
Minneapolis
City
Planning
Commission.
My
name
is
Matt
Brown
I
serve
as
president
of
the
Commission
I'm
joined
today
by
commissioners,
Gagnon,
krons,
Irma,
green
Oh,
slacks,
musi,
Freeland
and
Rockwell
this
time,
I'll
ask
that
you
silence
any
mobile
devices
and
we
can
get
started
with
our
meeting.
Our
first
item
business
is
to
approve
the
actions
from
the
June
26
meeting.
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
those
action.
A
We
have
a
motion
that
second,
all
in
favor
and
that
motion
carries
our
next
item.
Business
is
to
organize
the
agenda
will
determine
which
items
will
be
considered
on
consent
in
which
we
will
discuss.
You
can
find
hard
copies
of
the
agenda
in
the
hallway
I'm,
not
sure
if
they're
enough
for
everyone
in
the
room,
but
hopefully
you
can
find
some
of
those
and
follow
along
so
starting
at
the
top
of
the
agenda
item.
1
is
an
ally
vacation
at
3118,
Snelling,
Avenue
and
3138
smelling
Avenue.
A
So
anyone
wishing
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
modify
the
staff
recommendation
on
item
1,
seeing
no
one
will
put
item
1
on
consent
item
2
is
the
Sparrow
Academy
school
building
at
2701
and
2701,
and
a
half
California
Street
northeast,
that
is
a
conditional
use,
permit
actually
several
applications
for
a
new
school
building.
There
is
anyone
wishing
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
modify
the
staff
recommendation
on,
item
2?
A
A
A
Moving
along
item,
six
is
new
townhomes
at
9:15
sixth
Street
southeast.
Is
anyone
wishing
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
modify
the
staff
recommendation
on
item
six
I'll
mention
that
we
did
receive
a
modification
to
the
staff
report
that
there
is
an
amendment
to
condition
number
eight
related
to
bike
storage.
So
we'll
accept
that,
provided
we
consider
item
six
on
consent.
A
A
Item
8
is
a
restaurant
building,
a
39
39
East
46th
Street,
a
variance
and
site
plan
review
for
a
new
commercial
building.
There
is
anyone
wishing
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
modify
the
staff
recommendation
on
item
8c.
No
one
will
put
item
8
on
consent
item
9
is
the
cap
at
39,
39
East,
46th
Street,
several
applications
for
a
new
mixed-use
building.
There
is
anyone
wishing
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
modify
the
staff
recommendation
on
item
9.
We
do
have
a
few
people
who
want
to
become
that.
A
So
we
can
discuss
item
9
and
finally,
item
10
is
at
3:33
East
Penofin
Avenue
several
applications
for
a
new
mixed-use
building
at
that
location.
Is
anyone
wishing
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
modify
the
staff
recommendation
on
item
10,
seeing
no
one
will
put
item
10
on
consent,
so
our
agenda
as
amended,
is
as
follows:
items
1,
4,
6,
7,
8
and
10
will
be
considered
on
consent
and
will
discuss
items.
2,
3,
5,
&
9
commissioners
may
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
as
amended.
C
D
C
A
C
E
C
E
A
Right,
thank
you
and
moving
along.
Our
first
item
of
discussion
today
is
item
2
with
a
bureau.
Academy
school
building
staff
is
mr.
handler
and
we
saw
this
at
committee
the
whole.
So
perhaps
you
could
just
provide
a
brief,
brief
presentation
and
then
we
have
a
couple.
People
would
like
to
speak
coming
to.
F
Brianna
commissioners
I'll
pull
up
the
visuals
but
I
think
I'm,
not
aware
of
the
concerns
from
from
the
public
eye.
You
see
the
applicants
proposing
a
new
two-story
64,000
square
foot
school
two
stories:
21
classrooms,
the
application,
the
condition
use
permits
to
allow
for
the
school
in
the
residential
district,
the
variance
to
increase
the
maximum
off
street
parking.
F
You
saw
the
condition
of
approval
that
we're
looking
to
reduce
that
from
100
to
88
to
reduce
the
front
yard
setback
along
California
or
just
a
portion
of
the
building
and
the
applicant
supportive
of
us
denying
the
variance
for
the
fence
to
increase
the
height
of
that
and
in
the
site
plan
review.
The
applicants
noted
that
they're,
supportive
of
all
the
conditions
of
approval
and
recommendations
from
staff,
so
I
will
have.
The
presentation
here
are
the
visuals
and
turn
it
over
to
the
public.
A
B
Name
is
Justin
Fincher
with
j-b
thing,
we're
the
owners
rep
for
Sparrow
Academy
I'm
sure
you
were
aware
from
the
Committee
of
the
Whole
meeting
about
the
size
and
scope
of
the
project.
We've
been
working
with
Sparrow
for
about
a
year
now,
looking
at
finding
a
new
site
for
them
as
their
expert
they're,
successful
public
charter
school
looking
to
expand,
we
we've
done
a
five-mile
radius
to
find
the
best
possible
site
and
we
landed
on
this
one
and
it's
21
classrooms,
seven
specialty
rooms.
B
We
are
looking
for
more
parking,
since
it
is
a
specialty
and
type
of
teaching
application
at
the
school
where
the
student
to
teacher
ratio
is
a
lot
higher,
it's
one
to
eight
as
opposed
to
a
standard
public
charter
school,
which
is
about
17
or
1
to
17.
So
we're
going
to
have
a
couple
more
teachers
there,
on-site
so
I
think
that's
the
biggest
thing
to
note
other
than
that
everything
else
is
in
the
in
the
application
materials
all.
A
G
G
This
is
a
very
industrial
neighborhood.
There
are
tracks
directly
railroad
tracks
directly
to
the
east
of
the
property.
Other
are
high-voltage
transmission
lines
between
those
railroad
tracks
in
school
I'm,
not
up
on
all
the
studies,
but
obviously
there's
been
a
lot
of
concerns
raised
about
the
safety
of
you
know:
children,
our
own
high
transmission
power
lines,
so
something
just
to
bear
in
mind
again.
Those
are
the
least
of
my
concerns.
G
A
little
higher
concern,
also
related
to
the
industrial
neighborhood,
is
that
there
is
heavy
truck
usage
along
27th
Avenue,
which
again
is
just
adjacent
to
the
property
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
school
and
the
students
and
I.
Don't
know
if
there'll
be
a
lot
of
pedestrian
traffic
because
of
the
school,
but
that's
certainly
a
concern
of
mine
just
from
a
safety
standpoint.
G
It's
also
a
high-speed
route
that
a
lot
of
people
used
during
Russia,
or
that
goes
between
University
Avenue
and
Marshall
Street
other
than
Lowry
Avenue,
which
is
you
know,
control.
This
is
kind
of
the
path,
path
of
least
resistance,
and
we
see
a
lot
of
high
speed
traffic
during
those
hours,
also
a
concern.
You
know
when
it's
right
around
the
school.
G
Moving
on
to
the
second
of
my
concerns-
and
this
is
a
biggie.
Actually,
there
was
an
aborted
project
on
that
property
20
years
ago,
15
to
20
years
ago,
and
it's
because
of
the
soil
content
that
soil
is
all
peaked.
My
house
is
actually
sinking
because
of
the
property
of
the
soil.
I
would
highly
recommend
that
that
be
taken
into
consideration
when
building
this
property.
G
G
The
last
of
my
concerns
is
the
water
stormwater
drainage.
This
has
been
a
large
problem
already
and
it's
gotten
progressively
worse.
Over
the
years
again,
I've
lived
there
for
50
years,
there's
been
a
substantial
amount
of
development
in
the
east
of
this
property
uphill
from
this
property,
with
a
lot
of
large
blacktop
of
parking
lots
over
the
last,
especially
last
20
years.
G
All
of
that
water
is
draining
into
a
substandard
storm
drainage
system
and,
what's
worse,
is
the
path
of
least
resistance
is
right
through
the
property
there's
a
river
that
runs
through
this
property
every
time,
there's
any
substantial,
rainstorm
whatsoever,
the
intersection
of
27th
and
California.
Also,
floods
with
each
storm
of
say,
half
an
inch
or
more
so
if
there
is
to
be
development
on
this
property,
I
think
they
water
run
up.
Issue
needs
to
be
addressed
specifically,
if
they're
going
to
be
any
parking
lot,
which
obviously
there
will
be,
but
additionally
we're
going.
G
The
school
itself
is
going
to
have
a
problem
with
flooding
unless
that
problem
is
addressed
and
addressing
that
problem
isn't
redirecting
the
water
into
the
intersection,
because
the
intersection
already
fills
up
with
water.
So
those
are
my
three
major
concerns
again
I'm
not
opposed
to
the
project
in
and
of
itself.
Nor
are
my
neighbors,
but
these
are
some
things
that
we'd
like
to
see
addressed
all
right.
Thank.
H
H
However,
the
homeowner
is
going
to
be
protected
from
damage
further
damage.
I,
don't
think,
would
take
much
to
knock
my
little
house
down
so
and
we
haven't
seen
any
plans
at
all
on
what
the
school
looks
like
or
where
the
playground
starts,
or
you
know
anything
about
that
I
guess
it's
a
little
bit
of
concern
I'd
like
to
see
what
it
looks
like
online
when
we
have
an
online
thing
called
I
love,
North
East.
Some
of
the
discussion
was
that
the
that
there
will
be
a
playground
there
and
I
again.
H
H
If
they
are
going
to
do
pylons,
maybe
that
can
be
confirmed
or
denied.
How
long
does
that
take
I've
got
I
know
this
sounds
kind
of
frivolous,
but
I've
got
a
dog
at
home
that
can't
even
stand
a
firecracker
from
five
miles
away
and
if
I
get
those
pylons
going
on
and
how
you
know
what
time
of
day
are
they
going
to
be
in
the
weekends
and
the
weeknights?
You
know,
how
is
that
going
to
work?
H
H
How
is
the
light
pattern
they're
going
to
be
on
California,
Street
I
know
that
science
fountain
is
silly,
but
you
know,
do
I
have
to
take
out
my
window
and
to
get
some
sleep
and
then
also
the
parking
on
California
Street.
Is
that
going
to
be
open
to
the
school
people
right
now
we
have
some
challenges
already
with
parking
on
both
sides
of
the
street.
So
those
are
all
my
questions.
If
the
rabbi's
don't
know
how
I'm
going
to
get
answers,
yeah.
A
H
A
H
A
A
E
J
A
C
A
A
C
A
F
A
project
at
950
s,
Street
at
the
northwest
corner
of
Bryant
and
50th
the
applicant
had
to
quickly
summarize
the
proposals
to
replace
the
small
service
station
2,000
square
feet
has
a
large
surface
parking
lot
in
front
with
an
approximately
99
hundred
square
foot,
multi-tenant
commercial
building
that
would
span
most
of
the
property.
As
you
can
see
in
the
rendering
at
the
bottom,
the
application
site
plan
review
their
answer
to
reduce
parking
to
zero
and
parents
to
reduce
the
setbacks
along
the
north
and
west
property
lines.
F
F
F
Number
two
is
at
the
southwest
corner:
that
cleaners
building
and
then
number
three,
the
mulch
offs
and
patina
building
staff
also
found
the
projects
in
line
and
spirit
intent
of
the
Comprehensive
Plan
in
terms
of
a
few
different
sections
of
of
the
planets.
From
a
land-use
and
economic
develop
standpoint,
as
I
mentioned
before,
fiftieth
and
Bryant
is
a
commercial
node,
there's
five
properties
within
the
node,
and
it's
also
along
two
community
corridors
that
are
recognized
as
having
larger
traffic
amounts.
F
The
positive
support
with
the
features
others
don't
have
development,
such
as
having
from
a
land
use
and
economic
development
standpoint.
This
project
Museo,
will
support,
incur
the
growth
and
sustained
vitality
of
a
commercial
node.
We
also
see
that
this
will
also
provide
a
greater
mix
of
goods
and
services
to
the
neighborhood
and
also
the
city
I.
F
Just
one
of
them
is
looking
at
this
map
and
the
zoning
you
have
the
c1
zoning
for
the
properties
that,
in
the
commercial
node,
the
other
properties
are
residential.
So
the
potential
of
additional
commercial
properties
coming
to
this
area
is
very
unlikely,
and
this
is
frame
the
boundaries
of
the
commercial
node.
For
four
years,
from
a
transportation
standpoint,
the
project
we
feel
also
is
is
supported.
F
It
is
in
line
with
the
Comprehensive
Plan
guidance.
We
with
the
elimination
of
two
curb
cuts,
the
increasing
the
width
of
the
sidewalk,
both
on
50th
and
Bryant,
to
six
feet
right
now,
the
conditions
are
enacted.
That's
going
to
definitely
improve
the
conditions
for
pedestrians,
they're,
adding
more
bike
parking
and
having
a
building
at
the
corner,
along
with
the
transit
string,
will
also
provide
amenities
for
transit
riders.
F
Finally,
from
an
urban
design
standpoint,
it's
it's
also
in
line
with
with
our
policies
and
bringing
that
building
up
to
the
streets.
Having
had
pedestrian
feel
engaged
with
the
building
seen
what's
going
on,
and
the
awnings
and
the
building
lighting
will
help
the
pedestrian
friendliness
of
the
area.
Now,
just
to
note
a
couple
things
beyond
what
was
in
the
findings,
see
ped
and
Public.
F
Works
definitely
did
not
dismiss
that
there
are
parking
and
traffic
related
that
there
is
a
fair
amount
of
traffic
in
the
area
and
at
there
is
parking
demand
for
on
street
parking
there's.
But
we
just
want
to
know
that
there
are
60
commercial
nodes
throughout
the
city,
and
this
is
a
successful
one
and
we
want
to
see
a
continued
by
having
another
business
have
continued
on
vitality
of
the
area.
F
These
are
the
traffic
counts
for
Bryant
and
50th.
Street
comparator
from
2006
to
2015
and
traffic
has
done.
2015
was
the
lowest
traffic
count
in
that
10
year
period,
so
hit
50th
there's
over
10,000
cars,
but
I
just
want
to
note
that
traffic
levels
have
not
increased
over
the
last
10
years.
They've
they've
gone
down.
F
F
F
They
are
looking
at
an
additional
or
they're
having
the
trash
enclosure
or
refuse
receptacle
at
50th
of
Bryant
that
the
building
owner
will
maintain,
though,
there's
a
gate
that
the
neighborhood
was
encouraging.
The
developer
to
have
this
is
for
the
Western
property
and
then,
finally,
some
an
update
to
the
plan
for
the
site
plan.
The
left
is
the
site
claims
you
see
in
your
packet.
The
right
is
a
version.
F
That's
new
they're,
looking
to
reduce
the
building
setback
to
feet
here,
to
definitely
provide
looking
to
provide
closer
to
six
feet
or
actually
six
feet
or
more
sidewalk,
and
then
space
for
bike
parking.
So
we
we
really
do
feel
that
with
the
public
hearing
process,
there's
number
of
things
that
were
brought
up,
that
we
were
able
to
incorporate
into
the
conditions
of
approval,
I'm
happy
to
answer
questions.
You
can
have
all.
M
Hi,
my
name
is
teri
Jacobs
and
I
am
the
developer
one
of
the
developers
of
the
hopeful
development
of
that
corner.
That
intersection
I
want
to
say
that
we
did
have
a
neighborhood
meeting
we
and
we
heard
the
neighbors
and
their
discussion
about
the
parking
and
so
forth.
There's
not
a
whole
lot
that
we
could
do
even
if
we
made
it
into
a
parking
lot,
we'll
probably
be
able
to
park
about
fifteen
or
sixteen
cars.
M
We
looked
at
a
number
of
options
to
go
underground
because
of
the
size
of
the
site
and
the
dimensions
of
the
site.
You
end
up
having
a
ramp
to
go
down.
You
end
up
with
about
six
cars,
six
to
seven
cars
per
level,
so
in
order
to
meet
the
parking
requirements
for
the
building
itself,
we'd
probably
be
three
levels
down
on
the
ground
and
that
would
include
pylons
and
everything
else
in
a
residential
neighborhood.
We
just
didn't
want
to
do
that.
M
We
also
took
into
account
that
the
front
of
the
building
is
something
that
we
really
want
to
enhance.
We've
set
the
building
back
from
the
property
line,
which
is
the
edge
of
the
sidewalk,
which
is
a
six
and
a
half
foot
sidewalk
right
now
we
set
it
back
and
additional
eight
feet
because
we
wanted
to
provide
a
dining
experience
and
a
residential
and
pedestrian
experience
along
the
front
of
our
building
also
allow
some
streetscape
and
landscaping
and
so
forth.
We
provided
on
the
east
side
of
the
building.
M
We've
set
the
building
back
as
Erin
noted
an
additional
two
feet,
all
along
that
side
to
accommodate
I,
believe
it's
either
13
or
15
bike
parking
stalls,
we're
absolutely
going
to
encourage
each
of
the
tenants
and
all
of
their
employees
to
take
into
account
and
and
try
to
encourage
people
to
take
them,
transit,
their
bicycles
or
walking
or
whatever
to
and
from
the
site,
if
possible.
So
it's
kind
a
cancel.
What
it
is,
if
you
have
any
questions,
I
can
answer
a
there's.
A
lot
of
people
want
to
talk
and.
A
Commissioners,
are
there
any
questions
for
the
hearing?
None
we
can
move
on
to
some
other
speakers
and
I
understand
a
lot
of
you
would
like
to
speak.
So
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
set
an
initial
initial
time
of
30
minutes
for
public
testimony.
We
can
extend
that
if
absolutely
needed
and
I'll
also
ask
that
if,
if
you
do
start
to
go
over
about
two
minutes,
I'll
ask
you
to
kind
of
wrap
off
just
so
we're
respectful
of
everyone's
time.
I
won't
cut
anyone
off,
but
I
will
remind
you
to
keep
moving
along.
A
So
also
I
would
like
to
ask
everyone
is
just
mindful
of
not
simply
repeating
things.
Others
have
said
and
continue
to
bring
new
information.
So
we
can
start
over
on
this
side
of
the
room.
Who
would
you
like
go
ahead?
You
can
go,
go
for
I
know
you
do
need
to
go
to
the
microphone
just
so
alive.
If
you
don't
mind
just
so,
it's
picked
up
on
the
audio
I
apologize
for
that
and
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
N
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Roxy
Olson
and
I
live
at
5015
Bryant
Avenue,
South
I
have
lived
there
for
24
years
with
my
husband,
my
husband
recently
passed
away,
and
the
support
I
received
from
my
neighborhood
and
all
the
businesses
around
the
corner
is
nothing
to
be
believed.
It
was
so
heartfelt.
It
makes
you
feel
you're
a
part
of
something,
and
this
has
been
developed
by
the
community
that
works
around
this.
It's
a
lovely,
lovely
neighborhood.
N
As
a
woman
of
a
limited
mobility,
the
flexibility
of
being
able
to
go
to
these
shops
and
restaurants,
it
makes
you
engaged
it
keeps
you
a
part
of
your
community
I've,
looked
at
the
project
very
seriously
and
I.
Think
it's
well
thought
out.
I
think
it
is
respectful
of
what's
existing
now
I
think
it
would
complement
everything.
That's
going
on
I'm,
really
very,
very
much
in
favor,
but
I
hope
you
will
consider
it
seriously,
because
I
think
this
is
a
really
wonderful
project.
I.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration.
All.
A
O
I'm
Mary,
Donovan
and
I
live
six
houses
up
from
the
old
Joe's
break
shop,
I'm,
49
and
Bryant,
so
I
just
have
to
walk
down
the
hill
and
I
agree
that
the
proposal
is
going
to
be
an
improvement,
and
it's
really
a
good
idea.
I
just
have
a
few
concerns
for
my
first
one
is
that
the
proposed
building
is
too
big:
the
setbacks,
I
6
or
8
feet.
I
went
down
and
I
was
looking
at
them
at
the
drawings.
J
O
There's
the
building,
then
there's
a
planter,
and
then,
if
there
is
proposed
tables
for
outdoor
seating
and
people
to
walk
by
it's
it's
too
small,
it
needs
to
be
larger.
Like
Saint
Genevieve
I
measured
their
sidewalks,
they
were
12
feet
and
those
are
small
tables,
but
that
is
a
little
bit.
So
there's
no
consideration.
This
is
a
very
big
thing
for
me
is
for
the
stormwater
runoff
there's
currently
19
mature,
maple
trees
and
19.
Eight
foot
rubs
that
totally
black
the
parking
lot.
O
The
suggestion
of
four
trees
on
this
Southside
or
it
just
is
not
compensation.
It
required
a
hundred
eighty
four
square
foot
on-site
landscaping
when
I
read
that
on-site
review
and
it
seems
like
that's
something
that
we
can't
give
up
given
the
Minnehaha
Creek,
the
lakes,
the
river
everything
this
water
is
super
important
and
then
I
wanted
to
recommend,
maybe
a
patio
on
the
west
side
that
would
connect
to
the
bike.
The
bike
lane
I,
you
know,
I,
think
the
way
this
picture
looks
up
here.
O
It's
really
hot
when
you
go
to
walk
from
our
house
to
Kowalski's
that
development
isn't
as
good
as
our
development,
because
there's
no
trees,
it's
like
you're
walking
for
this
our
desert.
So
this
just
looks
to
me
like
it's
like
the
same
consideration:
we
need
more
trees
than
the
little
shrubs
in
between
just
on
the
south
side
and
the
ones
on
the
backside.
On
the
north
side
that
block
the
condo.
That's
important
I
mean
that's
a
barrier
for
those
people
that
live
in
that
those
condos,
so
setbacks
in
your
zoning
is
by
feet.
O
I
thought
that
would
be
important
on
the
north
and
west
side
for
the
resident
then
also
under.
My
second
point
is:
there
needs
to
be
more
windows
on
Bryant,
that
is
30,
it's
35
percent,
I,
guess
the
zoning
code
and
it's
30
percent.
It
looks
like
that.
One
area
where
all
the
bikes
are
going
to
be
is
it's
just
a
huge
gap.
There
should
be
windows
there,
I
mean
that's,
not
very
aesthetic
I
was
thinking.
Is
it
like?
The
dumpster
is
going
to
sit
out
there
on
trash
day
and
then
also
the
next.
O
My
next
consideration
is
the
exterior
material
should
match
the
Bachmann's
building
in
the
patina
building
and
they
suggested
metal
that
looks
like
wood
I.
Think
that
isn't
the
same
to
be
brick
and
you
know
how
patina
and
vineya
they
have
they're
cut
off
corners,
so
the
entrance
is
really
big.
So
I
was
suggesting
in
this
picture
of
the
southwest
corner
angle
that
corner.
O
So
it's
the
larger
it's
more
welcoming,
and
you
know
that's
why
this
neighborhood,
as
is
popular
because
it
has
a
lot
of
character,
so
I
didn't
I
was
wondering
who
the
retail
shops
are
going
to
be
the
little
teeny
1,000
square
feet
chops
with
no
exterior
windows,
just
the
front
windows,
it
sounds
like
maybe
like
a
phone
company
or
something
so
I
would
just
propose,
maybe
a
little
smaller
building
with
a
consideration
for
stormwater
runoff
and
perhaps
just
less
tenants.
So
thank
you
all.
A
P
P
There
parking
is
difficult
and
if
we're
going
to
take
the
hit
for
parking,
I
prefer
personally,
that
we
not
do
another
commercial
development.
We
already
have
several
very
successful
restaurants,
and
if
you
look
our
talked
to
the
people
that
are
visiting
those
restaurants,
there
are
many
of
them
that
are
driving
in
from
the
western
suburbs
to
eat
at
these
restaurants,
their
destination,
restaurants,
frankly,
I
think
it's
kind
of
a
joke
to
think
that
people
are
going
to
be
taking
a
bus
to
come
to
these
restaurants.
It's
not.
P
Folks-
and
it's
not
going
to
happen,
I
also
think
that
the
plan
that
shows
how
trash
and
deliveries
will
be
made
is
simply
inadequate
and
actually
dangerous,
because
the
way
it's
set
up
right
now
and
the
developer
during
our
proposed
developer
during
our
community
meeting
even
said
this
fellow's
most
likely
that
trash
trucks
and
delivery
trucks
would
have
the
double
Park
on
Bryant
to
do
their
deliveries
and
pick
up
the
trash.
Well,
there's
a
bus
stop
right
there.
P
So
how
is
it
going
to
get
around
these
delivery
vehicles
in
the
wintertime
and
how
about
traffic
being
backed
up
on
Bryant
as
we're
waiting
for
a
delivery,
vehicle
double-parked
and
a
bus
and
trying
to
get
around
that
again
out
of
the
neighborhood
seems
to
me.
The
traffic
flow
should
be
have
a
higher
consideration
here.
P
Last
one
is
just
kind
of
a
pet
peeve,
and
that
is
that
I've
lived
in
this
neighborhood
now
for
12
years
and
there
was
no
trashcan
down
at
the
bottom
of
50th
and
Bryant
I
got
one
from
the
city.
My
neighbors
and
I
pick
up
the
trash
from
that
trash.
Can
the
city
doesn't
do
it?
We
pick
it
up
and
throw
it
in
our
trash
cans,
the
weeds
in
the
parking
lot
along
the
edge
somehow
miraculously
in
the
last
month.
P
But
what
I
really
think
is
important
here
is:
why
do
you
give
variances
in
the
first
place
and
I
presume
you
give
variances,
because
you
want
to
do
it
for
something
a
greater
good?
Now
we
already
have
restaurants.
We
have
coffee
shops
if
we're
going
to
do
a
variance,
I'd
be
fine
with
a
small
apartment
building
there.
If
we
have
to
take
the
hit,
let's
build,
some
more
housing
city
needs
it.
So,
let's
say
thank.
A
R
My
name
is
Steve
sites,
I
live
on
5006,
DuPont,
Avenue
South,
so
a
couple
blocks
away
from
the
proposed
development
and
I
wrote,
weather
quick
sure
how
this
was
working.
I
wrote
a
letter
to
the
City
Council
members
just
today,
but
I
wanted
to
read
some
of
my
points
for
that.
Really
what
this
comes
down
to
for
most
of
my
neighbors
and
I
did
see
a
show
of
hands
of
who's
here
in
opposition
to
this
development.
R
Okay,
so
maybe
not
everybody's
going
to
speak,
but
I
think
there's
some
pretty
strong,
negative
views
of
this
on
this
project.
It
really
comes
down
to
parking
and
livability
there's
already
a
parking
issue
in
this
area.
I
understand
that
it's
a
commercial
node
and
that
buildings
are
going
to
get
built
and
businesses
are
going
to
go
in
there.
But
we
need
to
be
smart
about
this.
R
We
can't
create
this
and
then
hope
that
it's
going
to
be
okay,
we
can't
eliminate
parking
and
think
that
that's
going
to
eliminate
cars
I
found
it
somewhat
ironic
that
they're
really
worried
bike
parking
seems
to
be
a
high
priority.
I
mean
Vice
Park.
That's
great
people
can
bike
I
agree
that
nobody
will
take
the
bus
to
go
to
these
restaurants.
R
But
let
me
just
the
big
thing:
is
the
party
so
note
the
the
linters
Community
Association
conducted
two
meetings,
June
21st
and
July
13-
to
raise
our
concerns
about
this
project.
I'll
mention
that
that
July
13th
meeting
came
was
before
the
day
before
the
parking
study
was
published
on
July
14th.
So
we
didn't
have
that
parking
study.
When
that
meeting
took
place,
neither
meeting
was
attended
by
councilmember
Palmas,
a
no
and,
as
a
result,
I
did
not
believe
she
has.
R
She
does
not
have
a
full
understanding
of
use
of
her
constituents
in
the
immediate
area
and
is
not
able
to
properly
represent
our
concerns
on
this
matter.
At
this
time,
I
don't
know
what
the
point
of
community
meetings
are.
If
we
don't
have
the
people
that
we
vote
for
there
to
hear
our
concerns.
The
current
traffic
study
data
July
14
2017,
was
conducted
in
two
time
periods
over
a
span
of
only
10
days,
June
23rd
to
July
2nd.
The
two
periods
were
June
23rd
of
June
27th
and
June
30th
of
July,
2nd.
R
The
study
and
I
quote
the
study
consisted
of
placing
cameras
with
views
of
half
blocks,
half
blocks
of
alder
jamming
himself
Bryant
Avenue
South
and
Colfax
Avenue
South,
both
north
and
south,
of
West,
50th
Street
and
quote
as
such.
The
analysis
concludes
that
there
was
parking
pressure
on
the
half
blocks
of
Bryant
Avenue
South,
both
north
and
south.
Well,
isn't
that
interesting,
the
cameras
only
reached
half
the
block
and
there
was
parking
congestion
right
up
to
the
end
of
that.
R
I
can
assure
you
that
parking
pressure
exists,
extends
beyond
the
half
blocks
of
Bryant
captured
by
the
limited
range
of
the
cameras
and
cameras
been
set
up
with
extended
range
would
have
been
immediately
apparent
of
congestion
on
Bryan,
extended
south
252
Webb
script,
first
Street
and
Beyond
and
I
say
Bryan
self,
because
I
don't
drive
north
of
50th
typically,
so
that's
the
one
that
I
experience
on
a
daily
basis.
The
conclusions
drawn
from
this
current
study
do
not
accurately
reflect
the
parking
congestion
issues
currently
experience
around
the
50th
and
Bryant
interception.
R
The
addition
of
four
new
businesses,
comprising
nearly
10,000
square
feet
of
retail
space,
will
exacerbate
an
already
difficult
certain
situation.
So
what
I'm
asking
for
today
is
merely
to
delay
the
vote
on
the
requested
parking
variance
for
the
50th
and
Bryan
Avenue
cells
property
and
take
some
more
time
to
do
an
appropriate
parking
study.
I
understand
that
buildings
get
built
and
developers
develop,
but
we
need
to
be
smart
about
that
and
I.
R
S
Name
is
Kevin
caveny
I'm
at
5150
in
Colfax,
we've
lived
there
for
38
years,
and
these
last
three
gentlemen
on
ladies
have
said
everything
I
wanted
to
say
except
safety.
The
city
has
gone
overboard
to
put
in
bike
boulevards.
Bryant
is
a
bike
Boulevard
at
51st
and
Bryant.
There's
a
u-turn
buy
a
car
every
five
minutes,
I'm
waiting
for
the
first
Thomas,
the
first
vehicle
homicide
on
that
corner.
It
will
happen
and
I
hope
the
city
and
the
project
people
are
ready
for
it,
I
fear
for
people's
life.
You
cannot
see
on
that
intersection
whatsoever.
T
T
I'm
reminded
years
ago,
the
Metropolitan
airports
Commission
Commission
to
study
regarding
plane,
noise,
which
is
something
we
all
suffer
from
its
quality
of
life
issue.
This
is
a
quality
of
life
issue
and
back
then
they
said
there
are
1,250
flights
in
and
out
of
MSP
every
day.
Now
this
is
25
years
ago,
and
they
said
it's
not
going
to
change.
There's
not
going
to
be
that
much
more
growth.
T
T
My
concerns
are
parking
a
couple
years
ago
the
people
who
live
on
Bryant
had
a
neighborhood
meeting
to
discuss
the
issue
and
they
met
with
businesses
and
the
businesses
said.
What
we'll
do
is
we'll
encourage
our
employees
to
spread
out
and
and
I'm,
not
saying
that
you
know
if,
if
the
parking
exists,
this
new
development
exacerbates
the
parking
on
Colfax.
T
T
T
Well,
if
this
goes
through
the
laundry
cleaners
and
the
thick
building,
that's
a
directly
across
the
street
from
and
that's
going
to
be,
the
next
thing
to
go,
because
there's
too
much
revenue,
that's
produced
and
I
get
it
that
the
city
is
looking
at
some
significant
tax
revenue,
but
as
a
homeowner
we
pay
a
significant
amount
of
money
for
property
taxes.
So
if
we
do
this,
this
development
I
proposed
a
50%
reduction
in
our
property
taxes,
then
I'm
all
for
it.
T
T
Cars
at
parked
in
front
of
my
home
now
in
the
wintertime
plows
go
by
I've
got
my
driveway
a
shovel
at
and
then
I
shoveled,
my
walkway,
so
people
can
get
up
to
my
home
and
people
will
park
in
front
of
the
walkway
which
forces
my
guests
to
come
up.
My
driveway
now
I,
don't
know
how
many
other
people
are
familiar
with
this.
T
We
go
to
great
lengths
to
keep
our
street
or
you
know,
shovel
only
to
have
a
black
by
a
person
who
is
going
to
run
over
to
patina
I,
don't
see
this
as
enhancing
the
neighborhood
at
all.
All
this
is
is
development
for
revenue
for
taxes,
rather
move
for
business
and
I
get
that
I'm
in
the
construction.
Business
I,
love
development,
but
not
here.
T
U
Think
some
of
my
concerns
are
similar
to
what
I've
heard
from
others
certainly
concerns,
first
and
foremost
about
variances
and
balancing
between
residential
and
commercial
development
in
this
area
and
feeling
like
this
is
getting
pushed
in
a
way
that
negatively
impacts
both
property
values.
For
those
of
us
that
have
lived
in
the
area
as
well
as
the
issues
of
safety
and
cars
and
all
of
the
above
I
would
echo
Kevin's
comments
that
51st
and
Bryant
is
a
continual
u-turn.
There
is
traffic
and
parking
well
down
to
51st
and
on
51st
on
a
regular
basis.
U
Sometimes
beyond
that
and
we've
got
kids
there's
the
bike
Boulevard
and
that's
a
big
concern,
so
I
went
around
and
talked
to
our
neighbors
actually
on
the
weekend.
The
fourth
of
July
weekend
and
well
I
missed
lots
and
lots
of
people
because
they
work
on
and
I
suspect
people
weren't
going
to
our
restaurants
either.
U
So
I'm
also
suspect
at
the
the
parking
study
that
weekend,
but
I
did
collect
on
the
south
side
on
Bryant's
Colfax
and
DuPont
69
signatures
of
neighbors
who
are
concerned
and
opposed
the
parking
variance
because
we're
concerned
about
what
it's
doing
for
our
neighborhood
and
I.
Think
as
I
talk
to
people
the
other
piece
that
I
would
point
out
and
I
don't
know
given
all
of
the
current
zoning.
But
the
comment
that
I
got
most
often
for
people
is
what
we
need
desperately
we
need
in
our
neighborhood
in
our
city
is
more
housing.
U
We
need
housing
for
our
children.
Many
of
us
are
now
you
know:
parents
of
young
adults
who
want
to
live
in
this
neighborhood
who
want
to
live
in
Minneapolis
and
they're
priced
out,
and
it
would
be
much
better
if
we
have
concerns
about
supporting
the
development
of
vital
and
support
of
transportation
and
supporting
the
neighborhood
nodes
to
be
able
to
be
retail
or
the
local
community,
as
opposed
to
people
coming
in
from
the
suburbs
to
our
neighborhoods,
then
we
need
is
higher
density.
U
U
I
mean
that
this
particular
development
as
plan
as
nothing
for
our
neighborhood
and
so
I
urge
you
to
think
carefully
about
the
issue
of
variances
and
making
the
trade-offs
between
residential
and
and
think
long
and
hard
about
supporting
what
we
really
need
as
a
community
which
is
higher
residential
density,
so
I've
got
these
signatures
and
I
will
pass
them
on.
Thank
you.
Thank.
V
You
know
what
I
and
I
I
work
in
the
commercial
real
estate
industry.
We
work
in
this
world
a
lot
so
I
appreciate
all
the
dynamics,
but
I
would
suggest
to
you
when
you
read
through
the
report.
It
looks
like
the
boxes
were
checked,
but
the
depth
isn't
there,
and
so
my
overriding
theme
to
you
is
your
responsibility
as
a
Planning.
V
Commission
is
to
be
a
steward
of
the
assets
that
are
in
this
city
and
there's
thoughts
that
you
have
to
give
to
how
things
get
developed
and
when
there's
demand
you
have
an
opportunity
to
customize
things
more
to
the
liking
of
the
community,
certainly
balancing
the
needs
to
make
sure
it's
economically
feasible,
but
there's
missing
links
I
mean
there's
an
inference
that
the
bus
line
is
going
to
be
appealing.
So
you
give
up
21
parking
spots
and
you
get
13
bikes.
What
do
I
mean?
V
V
You
really
have
to
think
about
that.
I
mean
you
cannot
park
it.
You
cannot
walk
across
49th
and
Bryant
if
you're
a
child
and
you
walk
across
sporting
rights
and
Bryant
doesn't
flow.
Okay,
not
going
to
happen.
You've
got
to
go
across
midstream,
so
people
aren't
thinking
about
it.
You
have
an
opportunity
and
might
as
well
do
it
right
and
you
might
as
well
pause
and
you
might
as
well
think
through
it,
because
I
think
you're
missing
enough.
All
the
information
that's
necessary
to
make
a
smart
decision
thanks,
bye.
V
W
Hi,
my
name
is
Sharon
Landreth
and
I
live
on
50
13
by
himself,
actually,
two
houses
down
from
the
best
ones.
There
I
moved
to
50th
and
Bryant
25
years
old,
because
I
wanted
to
be
in
the
city
I
liked
the
atmosphere,
I
didn't
move
to
Woodbury,
where
there's
lots
of
parking
I
moved
there,
because
I
wanted
to
be
in
the
city.
W
Also
I
like
to
remind
people
when
someone
goes
to
the
canyon,
for
instance,
they
spent
an
average
of
maybe
a
half
hour
parked,
and
then
they
read
if
they
go
to
a
restaurant,
most
people
who
spend
more
than
I
would
say
an
hour
and
dinner,
so
I
mean
constantly
the
space
is
opening
up.
So
it's
not
like
someone's.
You
can
put
up
I've
been
building
there
by
the
way
they're
going
to
be
there
overnight
and
on
their
days
off
all
day
to
where
this
is
continually
changing.
W
X
Am
father
Egizi
know
the
president
of
Lyndhurst,
Neighborhood,
Association
and
I
live
at
51:12
Emerson,
so
I'm
not
directly
affected
by
the
parking,
but
I
did
want
to
address
some
of
the
things
that
were
not
discussed
previously
so
on
the
Bryant
Avenue
they've
asked
for
no
setback
at
the
northeast
corner,
the
typical
residential
to
the
commercial
setback
and
that's
right
where
the
condominiums
Drive.
What
comes
out
I?
Think
since
we're
focused
on
pedestrian
traffic
and
bike
traffic.
X
X
You
can
see
pedestrians
coming
also
that
creates
an
abrupt
change
of
setback
from
the
apartment,
the
condo
building
to
the
north
and
the
face
of
the
proposed
building
at
the
north
and
west
setbacks,
I've
heard
from
a
1
or
2
neighbors
that
they
don't
mind
that
and
I
think
it's
a
valuable
setback.
I
mean
trade-off
for
the
8
foot.
Setback
along
50th,
Street
I.
Think
that's
a
really
advantageous
setback
as
we've
been
trying
to
increase
the
walkability
of
50th.
X
As
far
as
the
site
plan
review
the
building
materials.
Originally
they
had
30
or
all
concrete
block
on
the
north
and
west
sides.
I
hear
from
Erin
that
they've
changed
the
metal
panel.
That's
better,
but
I,
still
kind
of
questioned
the
use
of
metal
panel
on
the
north
side,
because
that's
right
where
the
driveway
is
and
I
can
imagine
after
five
years.
That's
not
going
to
look
very
good.
X
Y
Currently
Colfax
is
maybe
not
as
busy
as
Bryant
and
Aldridge
are,
but
if
we
allow
the
this
building
to
go
through
with
its
current
size,
we
feel
that
it
will
be
a
burden
on
Colfax
and
DuPont
enya
and
beyond
so
I
have
shared
these
signatures
with
Erin
Hanauer
and
you've
probably
seen
them
as
well.
Thank
you
thank.
A
Z
My
name
is
Joan
and
I
now
live
at
5100
Brian
prior
to
that
I
lived
at
58
Aldridge.
Back
in
the
day
when
the
mulch
out
first
came
into
being
and
the
neighbors
got
together.
We
were
having
issues
with
traffic.
At
that
time
we
bought
City
Hall,
so
to
speak,
and
we
had
all
Gertz
made
into
a
one-way
I
understand
that
that
wouldn't
be
possible
for
Bryant
we're
snow
emergency
route,
we're
also
a
bicycle
Road
Colfax.
Z
On
the
other
hand,
could
it
be
considered
that
maybe
they
could
have
a
one-way
street
Bryant
and
51st
is
my
corner
and
I
watch,
so
many
close
calls
every
single
day.
If
we
could
get
a
four-way
stop
there,
it
would
help
considerably.
The
bikers
often
are
at
fault
too
I'm,
not
just
blaming
the
cars.
They
really
don't
slow
down.
Hardly
anybody
comes
to
a
full
stop.
One
day,
I
was
going
to
start
tallying
and
I.
K
Z
Z
Some
are
there
from
afternoon
until
the
next
day,
I,
don't
know
where
they're
coming
from
I've
considered
putting
notes
on
their
cards
I
wondered
about
what
one
would
have
to
do
to
have
a
limitation
put
on
the
amount
of
time
that
someone
can
park
in
a
residential
area.
My
husband
was
handicapped.
We
did
not
even
apply
for
a
handicap
zone
because
we
did
have
a
driveway
that
we
could
use
and
I
could
get
them
in
and
out
to
the
back.
But
it's
that
corner
is
an
accident
waiting
to
happen.
Z
Q
Q
To
setbacks
on
our
driveway,
the
developers
have
talked
to
everyone,
our
building.
In
fact,
the
owners
had
a
building
meeting
on
Thursday
of
last
week
and
we're
all
very
much
in
support
of
the
project
and
I.
Don't
think
anyone
else
was
here
from
our
building.
I
know
one
was
trying
to
make
it,
but
we're
all
excited
for
the
proposed
commercial
development
there
on
the
corner.
We
are
all
living
where
we
live.
Q
I've
lived
there
for
nine
years,
I've
lived
in
the
area,
my
whole
life
we
want
to
live
and
we
want
to
have
our
residents
be
around
mixed
use,
mixed
commercial?
We
all
enjoyed
using
the
restaurants
on
the
shops
in
the
area.
We
use
them
a
weekly
basis,
so
we're
excited
for
that.
The
tourists
the
parking
is
concerned,
I,
don't
think
I
can
fit.
You
in
disagree
with
my
neighbors
that
parking
traffic
is
a
very
real
issue
in
that
area.
It's
it's
impossible
to
say
that
there's
always
on
street
parking
as
there
is.
Q
There
is
open
traffic
flow.
There
is
a
there's
buses,
there's
bikes,
there's
cars,
I,
don't
have
a
garage,
but
I
don't
have
a
driver.
I
have
to
park
on
the
street
every
day
and
it's
a
champ.
You
know
that
doesn't
inhibit
my
desire
to
have
this
project
go
through
and
have
the
commercial
out
there
and
I.
Think
as
many
you
know,
our
neighbors
have
also
talked
about.
There
might
be
alternative
solutions
to
the
parking
concern.
Q
I,
don't
know
that
a
variance
one
where
the
other
is
going
to
solve
the
problem
for
the
neighborhood
as
a
whole.
I,
don't
know
that
for
spots,
I,
don't
know
that
16
spots
is
going
to
make
a
difference
to
the
size
of
the
problem.
Permit
parking
with
a
no
permits
for
people
that
live
in
the
area
to
park
on
Street,
with
maybe
at
three
hour
limit
for
those
using
commercial
just
to
keep
the
flow
moving,
might
be
an
option.
There
might
be
other
options
again.
Q
D
D
And
the
other
thing
I
think
everyone
is
forgetting
is
that
we
live
in
Minnesota
and
we
can
only
bike
about
maybe
five,
maybe
six
months
out
of
the
year
and
otherwise
people
are
going
to
be
driving
and
they're
gonna
be
parking,
and
then
we
have
snow
emergencies
and
people
are
going
to
be
able
to
park
on
one
side
of
the
road
and
you're
going
to
push
that
parking
weight
into
my
streets
and
other
streets.
So
don't
think
that
there's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
people
biking.
You
go
to
st.
D
Genevieve
you're,
going
to
drink
a
couple
glasses
of
wine
I'm
not
going
to
be
biking
home
and
you
are
those
people
and
many
of
those
people.
It
disrupts
Ronsard
liquors
they're,
not
you
don't
want
them
on
their
bikes
that
they've
had
a
couple
of
years,
so
you
have
to
consider
who's
going
to
be
riding
those
bikes
all.
AC
A
K
I
did
call
LOX,
5012
cool
backs,
have
them
so
so
I'm,
just
I
could
sit
here
and
talk
Oh
a
lot
of
issues,
but
I
live
on
Colfax
and
there
is,
you
might
have
the
turnover
quickly
on
Bryant,
but
Colfax
is
where
the
long-term
parking
all
day
for
the
kicks
to
do
or
the
kick
employees
are
and
then
at
night
for
the
cooks
and
the
staff
Park
on
Colfax
three
four
houses
in
from
the
corner
of
50th
and
Colfax.
You
know
they
haven't
reached
further,
but
I
think
it's
a
successful
note.
K
K
K
And
it
came
back,
is
that's
good?
Well
yeah.
So
are
you
waiting
for
it
to
get
that?
I
mean
great
it's
good
now,
because
of
the
size
of
it,
you
keep
adding
to
it,
and
then
it
gets
to
be.
Oh,
it's
a
problem,
but
then
who
does
they
referred
the
residents?
The
businesses
are
already
in
there.
They
just
I,
know
fiftieth.
There's
a
corridor.
K
I
know
Brian's
a
corridor
I,
don't
think
living
in
the
city
you
signed
up
for
just
because
you
live
close
to
a
node
that
you
have
to
have
all
these
parking
issues
and
the
safety
is
also
the
concern
of
cars
using
the
driveways
to
turn
their
own
and
the
u-turns
going
on
in
the
area
as
well.
Just
more
traffic
leads
more
issues.
There's
lots
of
kids
we're
trying
to
revitalize
the
neighborhood,
so
I
mean
all
the
neighborhoods
are
in
Minneapolis
and
that's
why
we
live
here
that
life
having
the
nodes.
AE
Moran
50
25
Bryant
parking
is
a
huge
issue.
We
happen
to
have
a
driveway
on
it
on
Bryant
and
very
often
people
will
just
park
in
front
of
the
driveway.
Yes,
there
are
no
spacers
they'll
pull
up,
we've
had
people
say
well
only
for
10
minutes
or
so
yes.
I
know
we
have
painted
the
curb
yellow
and
it
still
hasn't
helped.
In
the
winter
we
put
out
the
big
orange
cone
people
feel
zoom
into
the
driveway
turn
around
and
will
often
park
in
our
driveway
I
I.
AE
A
AF
AF
A
Right
any
further
questions
here
and
I
might
ask
a
question
what
at
least
one
of
the
speakers
had
raised
the
issue
of
deliveries
and
kind
of
the
location
of
that
service
entrance,
and
maybe
this
is
more
a
question
for
the
applicant
but
depending
on
item-
and
maybe
you
haven't
identified
all
the
tenants
yet.
But
what?
What
are
you
envisioning
for
kind
of
the
timing
and
frequency
of
of
deliveries
that
would
be
using
that
service
entrance?
Yes,.
M
Think
the
timing
is
totally
dependent
on
what
the
decision
I
mean
how
quickly
you
people
reach
the
decision.
As
far
as
the
tenants
are
concerned,
other
generic
tenants
and
I
might
point
out
that
the
building
is
about
ninety
nine
hundred
square
feet
in
total
from
outside
world
outside.
Well,
the
actual
gross
leasable
areas
under
eight
thousand
and
the
reason
for
that
is
obviously
getting
you
have
well
thicknesses.
M
We
push
the
building
back
eight
feet
of
what
we
could
have
actually
built
from,
which
is
the
front
property
line,
and
we've
also
included
a
corridor
in
the
back
that
totally
encloses
all
of
the
trash
and
the
meters,
all
utility
connections
and
so
on,
and
regarding
the
storm
runoff
every
we
have
two
restraints
and
it's
going
to
the
roof
drains
will
drain
directly
into
the
storm.
Sewer
there'll
be
no
runoff
from
the
property.
What
so
other
other
into
except
for
ends
to
the
storm
sewer
itself,
which
it
does
not
only
it
does
on
the
surface.
M
M
AB
F
AH
AI
Hi
Erin,
just
because
I
think
the
one
speaker
kind
of
hit
the
nail
on
the
head
and
that
this
isn't
going
to
help
her
kind
of
be
the
straw.
Oh,
it
may
be
a
different
stock
coming
shortly,
but
in
regard
to
the
parking
situation,
do
we
know
the
name
or
number
of
some
that
public
works
that
they
can
talk
to
regarding
residential
parking
permits?
AI
That
would
at
least
allow
them
to
you
know,
have
use
of
the
street
and
be
able
to
have
a
guest
over
or
they
can
person
street
or
whatever,
and
then
limit
people
come
into
the
area.
Maybe
maybe
restrict
them
more,
so
they
would
be
inclined
to
use
buses.
There
won't
be
any
parking
available
for
people
coming
from
the
burbs,
or
maybe
it
would
at
least
have
an
impact
on
future
development
if
it
wasn't
successful
in
doing
so
so
who
do
they
talked
about
Public
Works?
Or
do
we
just?
F
There's
there's
a
web
page
devoted
to
critical
parking
areas
and
they're,
not
there
often
in
in
a
letter,
I
think
from
my
colleague
Josh
Johnson.
He
said
that
or
in
the
conversations
with
him,
that
the
current
parking
situation
in
his
opinion
did
not
rise
to
level
of
having
a
critical
parking
area,
but.
F
AJ
J
F
Don't
want
to
speak
incorrectly,
so
anything
I
can
I
can
look
quickly
and
in
a
few
notes
that
I
had
but
I
don't
know
the
specific
threshold
and,
as
commissioner
looky-looky
pur
mentioned,
that
we
were
just
talking
about,
it
can
be
neighborhood
driven.
So
I
think
that
that
point,
oh,
that
that
threshold
can
can
vary
depending
on
the
area
south
of
40th
Street.
It's
for
critical
parking
areas.
There
were
two
near
schools
and
her
one
was
there's
two
in
commercial
areas.
So
it's
it
can
they
can
vary.
F
C
C
M
Don't
they
don't
work
yeah,
let
me
say
a
couple.
Words
learn
because
Brady's
actually
won
that
through
these.
However,
because
of
the
dimensions
of
the
site,
you
can't
get
a
double
loaded
parking.
That
being
said,
it
you've
got
to
have
two-way
traffic
or
one-way
traffic.
Depending
on
what
kind
of
park
would
you
do,
90
degree
or
angled
parking
number
two
you'll
notice
that
in
both
of
these,
where
we
show
the
building,
the
building
is
right
up
on
the
property
line
in
front
which
we
really
couldn't.
K
AG
I'm
Brady
Mueller,
with
Kirk
O'brien
meal
and
associates,
carry
basically
said
what
it
is
and
we
can't
get
we
can
get
either
gotta
be
two-way
traffic
or
a
one-way
traffic.
If
it's
two-way
traffic
we
everything
is
coming
in
and
out
and
Brian
really
close
to
the
intersection.
Here
you
talk
about
causing
issues
at
a
narrow
section.
AG
AD
AG
AD
AG
AG
E
Aaron,
thank
you
guys,
all
right
two
bit
time.
So
the
the
traffic
study
was
done
during
the
summer.
It
was
done
during
the
fourth
of
July
weekend
which,
when
we
do
know
a
lot
of
folks
are
gone
and
and
so
forth,
but
the
other
concern
that
I
have
is
it's
several
blocks
down
from
what
will
soon
be
one
of
our
larger
high
schools
in
Minneapolis
Minneapolis
and
our
largest
middle
school,
and
there
is
a
lot
of
youth
bike.
E
Pedestrian
traffic
in
that
area,
that
is
a
Washburn
high
school
attendance
area
so
and
Bryant
isn't
a
protected
bike
lane,
obviously,
and-
and
it
is
very
well
used
since
the
other
bike
lane
that
is
protected-
is
what
plays
Bell
to
one
way.
So
that
is
a
highly
used
bike
lane
for
our
youth.
It
is
a
kind
of
a
blind
area
there
and
I,
don't
think
the
service
delivery
truck
question
was
answered
so
considering
that
when
school
starts
the
traffic
in
that
area
is
what
I
would
assume
is
exponential.
E
E
That's
a
huge
concern
to
me,
given
the
the
amount
of
youth
you'll
have
2,000
kids
at
Washburn
high
school,
the
next
couple
years
about
a
thousand
kids
at
Ramsey.
That's
three
thousand
youth
from
August
through
June
that
dual
of
the
malt
shop
and
so
forth,
and
so
on.
It
might
love
this
place.
I,
don't
know
what
it's
going
to
be,
but
I'm
just
I'm,
really
curious
and
concerned
about
that
sure.
F
Just
to
be
clear,
the
traffic
demand
management
plan
or
traffic
plan
traffic
analysis
that
was
not
required
by
Chief,
Ed
or
public
works
because
of
the
size
of
the
building.
It's
a
small
building.
It
was
at
the
council
members
request
to
just
end
up
this,
get
a
feel
of
what
parking
demands
were
in
the
area
and
that's
what
you
that's
the
summer
that
you
have
in
your
addendum
packet,
the
service
and
and
putting
the
loading
and
unloading
the
truck
here
and
trash
pickup,
given
there's
also
a
fire
hydrant
there.
F
But
this
is
something
that
Public
Works
has
asked
an
a
player
development
review
to
work
with
the
applicant
to
have
a
plan
in
place
that
will
be
at
the
safe
as
possible.
So
they
do
recognize
that
the
tight
site
and
it's
a
tight
portion
of
site
all
on
Bryant,
but
that
there
will
be
with
working
at
the
applicant
and
in
our
colleague
set.
It
will
to.
AJ
F
Safety
concerns
and
finally,
I
just
confirm
to
Public
Works
that
having
that
building
wall
at
this
location
right
up,
the
Bryan
Avenue
was
was
not
a
concern
from
a
safety
standpoint
which
we
can
you
know
so.
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that,
and
that
was
an
important
architectural
detail
to
just
have
to
give
the
building
depth.
They
wanted
to
continue
this
portion
of
the
building.
This
would
be
step
back
to
the
trash
area
just
to
like
they
have
in
this
corner
here
that
awning
and
protection
of
the
elements
for
pedestrian
and
I.
E
Just
want
to
note,
too,
that
many
many
of
our
high
schoolers
at
Washburn
and
Southwest
drive
cars.
They
stayed
overnight
device,
and
so
it's
I
would
love
to
move.
I
made
my
middle
school
or
my
kids
have
ridden
their
bikes.
They
have
an
own
cars,
but
that's
not
the
norm.
So
the
car
issue
is
a
pretty
big
issue
and.
F
I'll
just
mention
one
thing
and
then
one
additional
thing
like
talking
about
the
positives
of
the
project.
You
know
try
to
mention,
may
agree
or
disagree
with
the
bike
parking
in
the
transit,
but
also
the
benefits
tip
attest
Rian's
in
eliminating
two
curb
cuts
in
those
conflict
points.
This
will
an
increase
in
the
width
of
the
sidewalk.
Are
we
feel
positive
for
for
the
residents
of
the
area
and
and
the
tenants
and
others
that
will
be
using
sites
and.
AI
Sorry
to
get
people
by
she
had
a
question
for
that
architect.
An
applicant
in
Erica
do
put
them
image
of
the
shows
that
you
alternatives,
we're
looking
at
back
from
the
drive
out,
so
my
two
questions,
one
was
given
the
setbacks
for
the
front
that
you
want
and
which
make
it
marketable
as
a
restaurant
face.
What
would
the
size
of
a
floor
plate
be
given
if
you
were
had
to
have
the
required
parking
and
all
the
one
and
I'm
the
one
with
the
red
highlighted.
Q
M
AJ
AG
It's
roughly
where
you
are
now
look
at
two
storey
building
we
looked
at
either
it's
going
to
be
a
single
storey
building
or
a
multiple
stories
like
three
or
four
stories.
Having
one
one
level
of
apartment
is
not
going
to
be
economic
excited,
we
just
can't
do
it.
If,
then,
you
have
to
have
three
or
four
so
three
or
four
plus
one
retail
we've
got
four
to
five
story:
building:
okay,
I,
don't
character
in
that
corner
would
be,
and.
M
AI
K
AI
So
then,
my
other
question
was
in
relation
to
this:
did
you
run
these
options
by
public
works
and
what
did
they
think
of
the
curb
cut
I'm,
not
sure
if
it
would
expand
or
less
I
know,
there's
two
existing?
This
would
have
to
still
or
did
they
get
bigger
if
it
was
to
a
jovial
or
one
way,
Drive
eilers
at
the
city,
always
it
smaller
now,
and
how
does
it
change?
What
did
Public
Works?
Think
of
eliminating
curb
cuts
versus
having
to
did
they
weigh
in
on
these
at
all?
No.
AG
AG
F
M
A
AF
A
AI
I
just
wanted
to
thank
everyone
who
came
out
to
speak
today.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
really
valuable
testimony.
I
think
you
know
we
hear
a
lot
about
parking.
You
know
this.
One
I
thought
was
kind
of
compelling
the
thing
that
I
want
you
to
know
things.
Some
people
worry
that
maybe
we
were
Provost
because
it
raises
the
city
taxes
and
that's
actually
not
something
we
can
consider
here
at
all
I.
AI
Is
that
in
granting
a
variance,
though
pretty
much
the
primary
thing
we
have
to
consider
that
we
can
consider
is
whether
or
not
the
applicant
makes
a
case
for
having
practical
difficulties
with
why
they
can't
comply,
and
so
what
you're?
Seeing
in
the
diagrams
here,
for
example,
and
then
then
they're
following
testimony
is
saying,
if
we
complied,
it
would
be
impractical
without
going
to
extreme
measures
such
as
doing
a
multiple
story.
Building
that
might
change
your
thing
and
impact
curb
cuts
and
who
knows
whatever
do
is
a
blessing
on
etcetera,
etcetera,
ergo.
AI
AI
Since
you
seem
very
cohesive
to
make
a
case,
I
think
you
could
have
a
strong
case
for
permanent
parking
for
event
and
I
think
that
would
actually
go
a
long
way
to
her
alleviating
some
of
your
some
of
your
pain
and
may
be
contacted
to
our
company
about
the
people
of
driveways,
but
I
just
wanted
to
explain
so
that
we
don't
walk
out
of
here.
Thinking
that
it's
different
reasons
for
why
people
vote
one
way
or
the
other
just
so
we
have.
A
A
M
Yeah
you're
talking
about
forty
five-degree,
okay,
you
know
like
I,
said:
I
am
open
to
it
and
if
it
works
for
the
restaurant
it
works.
For
me,
it's
fine
and
I
do
understand
that
both
Bettina
and
the
one
across
the
street
from
us
to
the
east,
and
although
the
name
of
that
building
probably
has
a
name,
but
they
also
have
that
45
degree
I
think
both
of
them,
so
it
would
be
in
it
would
be
a
conforming
entrance.
If
you
will.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
and
so
let's
do
a
voice
vote
on
adding
that
eight
condition
to
the
site
plan
review
related
to
the
principal
entrance,
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye,
all
right
any
opposed,
and
that
motion
carries
that
condition
is
added.
We
can
go
back
to
our
original
motion
now,
which
was
to
improve
all
five
applications.
Is
there
any
further
discuss
on
that
Commissioner
looky
here.
A
Is
there
a
second
okay
motion
and
a
second
further
discussion?
If
there
is
none
I'll,
just
add,
obviously,
a
lot
of
the
testimony
we
had
revolves
around
the
parking
issue
and
I
realized
this.
This
is
certainly
a
significant
change
over
the
existing
condition.
This
proposal,
however,
does
generally
reflect
the
historical
development
pattern
of
this
area.
There
really
the
scale
and
the
placement
of
the
building
block
coverage
really
reflect
the
other
types
of
development
we
see
in
this
commercial
node,
as
well
as
others,
nearby
and
I.
Think.
As
commissioner
Lukey
Pierre
pointed
out.
A
Really
we,
the
applicant,
has
to
demonstrate
practical
difficulties
with
respect
to
this
variance
and
I
think
they
did
that.
Obviously,
it
would
be
very
difficult
to
place
a
lot
of
the
parking
on
the
site
and
I
think,
even
if
they
did
that.
That
really
wouldn't
very
well
reflect
the
types
of
development
we
want
to
see.
A
It
would
actually
look
a
lot
like
the
existing
condition,
which
is
kind
of
unsightly
having
just
an
expanse
of
asphalt
there
and
I
think
the
case,
especially
that
the
retail
bays
would
have
to
be
very
narrow
and
just
wouldn't
be
very
marketable.
It
certainly
helps
make
that
case
that
it
would
be
very
difficult
to
provide
parking
on
site.
So
if
there
is
no
further
discussion,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
clerk.
Please
call
fall.
A
AK
AK
AH
A
Is
there
any
further
discussion
before
we
vote?
I
might
just
ask
the
applicant
to
speak
once
again
if
you
had
any
response
or
concern
with
that,
I
think
for
seizing
that
a
little
bit
open
that
you
can
work
with
staff,
if
you
don't
mind
coming
to
the
microphone
again,
sorry
to
search.
Thank
you,
move.
A
F
AH
Interesting
explain,
I,
mean
I,
think
all
across
the
city.
We
have
a
problem
with
roadway
geometry,
being
kind
of
hostile
to
pedestrians
and
cyclists
and
I.
Think
a
lot
of
the
folks
brought
that
up
in
their
testimony,
and
so
that's
just
a
way
of
making
the
street
environment
a
little
bit
better
and
hopefully
slowing
down
some
of
those
cars
that
are
on
50th.
That
people
were
talking
about
if
approved,
Public,
Works,
electric
transit,
all.
A
A
Is
there
any
further
discussion
hearing,
none
all
in
favor
any
opposed,
and
that
motion
carries
so
again
going
back
to
our
original
motion
to
approve
item
B
through
D
we've
added
three
conditions
to
the
site
plan
review
principal
entrance
Klump
out
three
trees.
There
any
further
discussion,
mr.
Hanna
to.
F
C
Much
Francois,
I,
there's
I,
think
there's
plenty
of
room
to
add
two
additional
trees,
especially
in
lieu
of
potentially
a
bump
out
on
Bryant.
So
there's
that's
why
I
left
it
open
to
the
public
right
away?
You
know
the
spacing
just.
Unfortunately,
it
just
starts
to
to
block
the
facade
a
little
bit
which
I
think
reto.
He
says
don't
necessarily
always
like
that,
but
I
do
think
that
there
is
some
added
value,
especially
since
there
are
a
lot
of
mature
trees
that
are
being
removed
as
part
of
the
project.
So
thank
you.
Y
AH
AH
A
And
that
motion
carries.
That
concludes
our
discussion
on
item
three.
Our
next
item
for
discussion
is
item.
Five
and
staff
is
once
again
mr.
Hanauer.
We
can
take
a
minute
and
let
the
room
clear
out.
Obviously
we
we
had
considered
this
item
at
our
last
meeting.
I
continued
it.
There
was
some
uncertainty
related
to
the
public
works
review
of
traffic
circulation,
so
maybe
Aaron.
You
could
just
give
us
a
very
brief
update
on
those
traffic
issues.
I
know,
Commissioner
krons
er
had
some
additional
conditions
he
wanted
to
discuss.
A
F
So
Tara
Brown
we
after
the
meeting
with
the
continuous
sheephead
Public
Works
in
the
African,
met
that's
the
same
week
to
discuss
possible
changes
that
would
bring
to
get
Public
Works
support
for
the
for
the
access
to
and
inside
to
to
the
site
and
to
exit
the
site,
and
this
is
the
corner
primarily
that
the
changes
took
place.
The
applicant
is
proposing
a
surmountable
curb
here.
F
They
also
put
in
a
pork
chop
and
to
help
them
once
again
encourage
cars
that
are
looking
to
exit
the
site
not
to
take
a
left,
but
only
to
take
a
right,
and
that
works.
Another
way
in
that
this
discourages
cars
going
cell
phone
and
lyndale
from
trying
to
take
a
left.
It
will
only
encourage
vehicles
to
enter
the
site
when
traveling
northbound
signage
will
be
proposed
to
delineate
the
different
entrance
point
and
to
ensure
once
again,
I
think
no
left
turns
out
of
the
site
and
to
Commissioner.
F
Look
the
piers
point
the
we're
looking
at
having
a
low
raised
bed
to
reduce
the
size
of
that
curb
cut
for
pedestrians
and
then,
finally,
at
the
back
of
the
site,
they're
looking
at
having
monitors
to
when
when
trucks
are
entering
the
building.
This
would
allow
the
garage
doors
to
to
go
quickly
up
so
there's
not
trucks
idling
in
the
alley.
F
There's
not
an
official
letter
of
support
from
public
work,
but
I
can
confirm
that
they.
There
was
no
objections
from
reviewing
the
language
that
you
have
in
the
statute
court
signals.
But
you
had
the
traffic
demand
management
plan
in
front
of
you.
That's
an
updated
one,
and
so
that
was
something
that
Public
Works
did
not
specify
that
they
needed
before
this
public
hearing
in
their
review.
That
just
needs
to
be
signed
up
and
and
updated.
They
need
to
sign
off
on
the
final
version,
but
it
wasn't.
F
It
wasn't
necessary
to
have
their
support
for
these
changes,
to
make
it
a
safer.
Entering
and
exiting
of
the
site
have
a
comparison
of
the
two.
If
that's
someone
you
didn't
read,
I
could
try
to
zoom
in
and
I
could
go
to
back
and
forth
between
the
site
plans
if
you
like.
That
concludes
from
the
updates
for
for
this
project.
Thank.
A
AB
A
AD
AL
That
are
the
Luca
bonds
and
it's
the
accent
materials
which
will
identify
the
floor
so
and
regarding
the
bus,
shelter,
we
have
met
with
Metro
Transit
and
we're
working
with
their
design
team
for
the
exact
placement
of
the
buses.
Both
40-foot
and
articulated
buses
do
travel
on
this
commercial
corridor
and
we've
identified
where
that
will
be
we're.
Also,
looking
we've
requested
that
they
provide
us
with
the
bus,
shelter
E,
which
is
the
new
bus
shelter
that
has
a
cantilevered
roof
which
allows
more
people
to
gather
rather
than
the
traditional
C
bus,
shelter
and
mr.
AL
AL
AG
AB
X
A
AB
Site
plan
review
conditions,
modify
a
condition
number
7
to
add.
The
applicant
shall
use
the
metal
shingle
in
lieu
of
the
brown
vertical
metal
panel.
Add
a
condition
number
11.
The
applicant
shall
provide
electricity
to
the
bus,
shelter
or
sufficient
for
lighting
and
heat
and
a
and
condition
12.
The
applicant
shall
work
with
staff
to
canopy
trees
and
little
decorative
trees
along
lyndale.
All.
A
AF
Quick,
no
for
Aaron
and
maybe
Jason
on
this
project
and
actually
also
the
previous
project
I,
just
encouraged
on
the
real-time
transit
screens
on
both
of
these
to
include
the
where
the
buses
are
going
or
bus
map.
I.
Think
we
saw
on
the
last
set
of
comments
that
a
lot
of
people
are
worried.
No
one's
going
to
take
the
bus,
probably
in
part,
because
some
people
don't
know
where
the
bus
goes.
Where
it
comes
from.
AF
You
know
you
go
to
a
lot
of
transit
systems,
including
our
own
train
lines,
and
it's
a
model
wreck
abound
blue
line.
It's
a
safe,
all
bound
Green,
Line
whatnot.
We
could
do
the
same
thing.
Both
of
these
are
on
the
floor.
You
know
which
field
bound
for
downtown
Minneapolis
and
northeast
bound
for
I
think
that'd
be
helpful
for
bus
riders.
AF
AK
That
Commissioner,
Cron's
or
motion
is
really
a
motion
to
provide
an
electrical
connection
rather
than
provide
electricity,
as
per
our
conversation
at
our
last
day,
so
they
won't
be
paying
if
you're
not
asking
them
to
pay
for
the
electricity.
We're
just
asking
for
a
connection
is
that
is
that
correct,
yeah.
AH
Mcgrew
no
just
wanted
to
make
a
quick
comment
that
we've
definitely
seen
this
one
a
few
times
over
the
past
year
and
I'm,
happy
that
it's
potentially
finally
getting
built
or
maybe
getting
built
in
the
next
year.
So
I
things
like
this.
Adding
grocery
stores
to
our
neighborhoods
is
kind
of
a
big
deal.
When
we're
talking
about
walkability
and
livability
of
those
areas.
AH
We
have
a
travel
demand
management
plan
here
and
I
never
want
to
argue
with
the
study,
but
just
in
general,
making
neighborhoods
more
walkable
maybe
eliminates
the
need
to
have
a
car
at
all
and
so
we're
adding
those
around
the
city
and
places
like
you,
town,
which
is
like
right
here.
Maybe
another
one
in
a
few
minutes
down
at
46
in
Hiawatha,
really
supports
a
vision
for
living
in
the
city
that
we
are
working
towards.
So
thanks
for
sticking
with
it
over
the
past
year.
Thank.
AH
AH
A
And
that
motion
carries.
That
concludes
our
discussion
on
item
five.
Our
final
item
for
discussion
tonight
is
item
939
3096
three
staff
is
lived
with
Meyer
and
we
thought
this
that
committee
the
whole
several
months
ago,
maybe
could
give
us
a
quick
update
on
any
changes.
Next,
we
have
a
few
people
would
like
to
see.
AM
So
recap
of
the
changes
that
you
would
have
would
that
have
occurred
since
clean
the
hall
would
include
adding
a
corner
entrance
at
the
corner
of
46th
and
smelling,
and
that
would
be
for
the
grocery
store
sister
pencil
entrance,
where
that
wasn't
there
before
another
change
was
checking
up
the
drive
aisles
in
the
parking
area
and
there's
another
main
concern
that
it
writes.
Lipping
my
mind.
Our
main
change
rather
and.
AM
Articulation
to
the
floors
on
46th
Street
that
added
some
boats
along
that
elevation
and
just
for
the
recommendations
that
there's
obviously
recommending
approval
deeds
and
took
with
the
developer
and
they
are
and
not
objecting
to
the
recommended
conditions.
So
I
doesn't
have
a
question
for
the
Commission.
I
know
that
at
least
the
concerns
that
I've
heard
of
those
are
related
to
height
alley
access
and
some
stormwater
runoff
that
I
could
just
focus
on
those
or
I
could
do
a
full
presentation.
There's
a
preference.
AM
AM
Here's
about
elevations
of
the
building,
then
I'll
just
note
that
most
of
the
building
is
at
65
feet
in
height,
and
the
elevator
overruns
would
extend
to
70
feet
so
that
height
increase
is
including
the
elevator
over
on.
So
therefore,
we
get
to
a
total
height
of
70
feet.
The
long-range
vision
for
this
area
is
to
have
transit,
oriented
development
and
this
floor
plan
that's
been
adapted
specifically
calls
for
a
building
that
we
four
to
five
storeys
in
height
to
attain
the
desired
density
for
this
area.
AM
So
there
are
residential
uses
across
the
alley,
but
how
the
height
it
supposed
to
orient
on
the
site
is
actually
set
back,
pretty
significantly
from
only
the
closest
point
where
we
have
the
five-story
part
of
the
dwelling
is
20
feet
from
the
alley
and
that's
up
towards
the
north
end
of
the
block
words
across
the
street
from
a
liquor
store.
So
when
you
get
closer
to
where
the
residential
properties
begins,
a
five-story
portion
of
the
building
of
stepped
back
about
40
feet.
AM
The
another
area
that
we
looked
at
was
that
along
the
west
side
of
the
property,
there
is
a
future
for
the
capacités
proposed
and
again,
there's
no
foreseeable
significant
impacts
to
that
future
pathway
based
on
the
height
the
height
increase,
and
so
therefore
just
did
recommend
approval
of
this
application
to
increase
the
height.
Looking
at
alley,
access.
AM
The
proposed
alley
axis
would
be
for
the
grocery
stores,
that
is,
the
primary
tenant
space
proposed
for
this
development
and
that
is
to
load
trucks,
access
to
their
loading
area,
which
you
can
see
aqua
Valley.
All
the
maneuvering
would
occur
on
site,
but
they
do
they're
requesting
that
vehicles.
The
trucks
be
allowed
to
go
into
the
alley,
checking
access
to
the
site
in
their
loading
area.
AM
So
that's
proposal
to
those
that
access
does
require
alternative
compliance
to
state
plan
review
and
and
looking
that
we
look
at
other
uses
on
the
block,
as
I
mentioned,
there's
residential
properties
on
the
east
side
of
the
alleys
17
total,
as
well
as
a
couple
of
non-residential
copies.
That
book
can
be
the
block
it
isn't
to
the
alley.
There's
again
is
the
suggesting
for
trucks
entering
the
site
to
be
next
to
the
loading
area,
and
it's
not
extending
far
into
the
block
itself.
AM
It
actually
only
extends
to
about
the
second
residential
property
in
and
then
with
the
maneuvering.
That's
opposed
the
trucks
would
be
exiting
out
property
to
the
west
and
would
not
return
to
the
alley.
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
place
signs
up
and
I'm
alie,
so
trucks
know
not
to
go
south
beyond
certain
points
that
they
enter
in
there
I'm
taking
access
to
the
loading
area.
The
absence
also
proposing
to
work
with
trucks
and
delivery
times
to
make
sure
they're
in
a
speak
hours.
AM
Finally,
Public
Works
also
has
looked
at
this
and
did
not
object
to
the
access
proposal,
so
that
did
reiterate
that,
through
a
condition
of
approval
that
those
no
truck
signs
be
placed
in
an
alley
and
that
they
work
with
the
truck
drivers,
making
deliveries,
ten
sugars,
British
impacts
on
those
adjacent
properties
and
then
of
the
one
last
thing
with
the
strimer
to
run
off.
Whatever
is
that
there
are
concerns
with
how
much
water
runs
out.
They
say
it
does
serve
impact
in
the
valley
with
with
straw.
AM
Leave
us,
so
there's
a
concern
that
this
new
development
work
contribute
to
that
they
are
proposing
to
contain
all
of
their
water
on
the
site.
So
hopefully
that
will
reduce
some
of
these
things
are
happening
in
the
alley.
They
did
have
a
large
stormwater
system
proposed
at
the
south
end
of
the
state
below
the
parking
area,
they're
also
proposing
to
do
a
large
landscape
buffer
along
the
alley.
Again
that
would
prevent
stormwater
from
running
off
into
the
alley.
All
the
water
from
the
building
would
also
be
channeled
to
that
system.
AM
AJ
AM
So
this
is
one
of
a
conceptual
drawing
of
a
long-term
future
plans
for
having
a
trail,
a
public
trail
along
the
west
side
of
site.
It's
in
an
old
railroad
corridor
that
and
the
city
now
owns,
and
it's
just
to
save
myself
between
Nevada
half
and
46th
Street.
So
this
is
indicating
a
way
that
could
be
built
out
as
the
plans.
The
detailed
plans
and
the
package
don't
show
this
and
since
I
have
switched
to
this.
AM
But
for
the
interim,
given
that
there's
not
a
safe
way
to
have
pedestrians
and
bicyclists
cross
46th
Street,
the
public
works
was
called
for.
Having
Snelling
Avenue
will
be
used
as
a
route
to
gain
access
across
46
at
a
controlled
intersection,
so
that
should
improve
safety
and
there's
a
lot
of
traffic
on
46th
Street,
which
is
a
big
concern
of
that.
So
what
some
internal
discussions
that
have
occurred
is
how
to
accommodate
that
pedestrian
bicycle
traffic.
AM
Now,
if
it's
going
to
be
rerouted
along
skelling,
we
don't
know
how
long
it
will
take
to
have
the
trail
extend
along
that
railroad
corridor.
Really
long-term
plan
would
be
to
have
a
bridge
or
cause
that
would
be
the
safest
option,
but
that
requires
us
to
be
more
funding
and
it's
currently
available.
So
right
now
we're
looking
at
how
safe
access
route
can
be
provided
for
bikes
and
pedestrians
along
but
selling
Avenue
extension
and
there's
a
sidewalk
that
would
be
provided.
AM
AD
A
I'll
open
the
public
hearing
on
this
item
and
give
the
applicant
an
opportunity
to
speak
first,
someone
have
the
applicant
would
like
to
speak
and
I
know
we
have
a
few
other
people
I
just
so
have
a
sense.
How
many
of
you
would
like
to
I'd
like
the
applicant
to
speak
first
and
then
we
can
move
on
so
we
have
three
or
four
other
people.
Would
anyone
like
to
be
on
behalf
of
the
applicants.
AN
Hi,
my
name
is
Drew
Johnson
with
Oppidan
investment
company
of
our
project
team
here
as
well.
So
we're
very
excited
about
this
project.
I
thought
the
comment
about
infill
groceries
on
the
prior
project
was
very
fitting
here.
This
area,
indeed,
is
a
food
desert
for
the
USDA
and
giving
people
those
walkable
options
for
grocery.
You
know
contribute
to
that
longer
vision
according
to
Google.
AG
AN
A
10-minute
walk
of
the
site
there's
over
7,000
people,
our
populations,
and
if
you
include
that,
with
one
light,
rail
stop
north
or
south,
that
goes
that
goes
up
as
well.
So
if
we
want
to
get
into
some
of
the
details
about
how
that
and
the
evolution
of
how
the
trail
interfaces
with
our
project
in
the
old
railway
we're
happy
to
do
that
when,
when
the
time's
right,
but
overall
we
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
know
teams
here.
AB
AN
You
well
it's,
you
know
very
clear
in
the
guiding
documents
and
in
County
2001
or
the
plan
that
they
sponsored
in
2001
that
that
was
updated,
that
that
part
of
46
streets
should
be
alive
should
have
should
have
a
retail
presence.
But
you
know
knowing
given
market
constraints
and
availability
of
potential
parking
being
farther
away.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
we
did
make
that
space
too,
deep
or
too
large,
so
we
rotated
it.
So
you
can
have
as
much
activity
along
the
street
and
then
to
keep
the
building
efficient.
AJ
AN
AN
Harder,
but
our
plan
is
that
you
know
to
offer
the
safest
spot
for
peds
and
bikes
to
use
forty-fifth
I'm
sorry
Snelling
as
an
interim
stop
to
get
to
the
light
for
safe
crossing,
but
then,
as
the
trail
or
the
Highline,
that's
envisioned
and
the
guiding
documents
goes
all
the
way
north
that
a
more
permanent
solution
can
be
found,
but
one
environment
that
we
want
to
create.
That
is
important
to
us
in
that
pedestrian
way
is
that
you
we
work
so
hard
on
making
sure
whomever
the
groceries,
I'm
sorry
oriented
out.
AN
So
that's
a
very
active
pedestrian
environment.
There's
life
there's
spilling
into
that
area,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
we
get
kind
of
the
right
balance
that
if
you're
you
know
hoping
to
drive
your
bike
15
miles
an
hour
through
there,
and
you
need
to
get
someplace
really
fast
that
it's.
You
know
it's
kind
of
that
70
feet.
80
feet
is
because
more
of
a
commercial,
you
know
slower,
walk
your
bike
type
area,
given
that
there's
larger
bike
trails
on
the
other
side
of
55.
If
your
goal
is
mobility,
north
or
south.
A
AO
Name
is
Newland
Morgan
and
I
live
on
the
second
house
on
this
block
where
they
want
to
build
a
skyscraper,
I,
call
it
and
she's
going
to
bring
up
a
picture
here.
That's
the
alley
along.
There
were
all
those
little
blocks
are
behind
there
and
that's
our
houses
on
that
street
and
you
talk
about
somebody
was
mentioning
getting
shaded
out
by
some
other
facility.
If
this
is
five
stories
high,
it's
going
to
take
my
asking
son
because
you
know
I'm
on
the
most
protruding
end
of
it.
AO
AO
So
that's
my
concern
so,
besides
pushing
it
back
further
further
west
because
we're
people-
a
bunch
of
us-
are
here
that
live
on
that
block
and
if
you
care
about
shading
people
out
or
putting
a
skyscraper
in
their
backyard,
then
listen
to
it.
I
mean
what
I
would
like
to
recommend
I.
Think
a
four
stories
would
be
reasonable
one
retail
level
and
for
housing
that
wouldn't
be
as
bad
and
also
if
you
keep
it
further
away
from
the
alley,
I
mean
look
at
this
picture.
AO
To
work
her
cell
phone
I,
don't
have
a
computer
okay.
So
if
you
look
at
this
picture,
here
is
my
alley.
There
is
my
house
and
this
entranceway.
It
shows
a
truck
coming
out
of
it
to
the
right.
If
you're
looking
at
the
picture
to
the
right,
it
shows
a
truck
coming
on
and
look
how
close
it
is
to
the
alley.
AO
That's
my
alley,
our
alley,
and
it
even
has
something
to
compare
it
with
there's
a
little
station
wagon
there
in
the
front,
lower
lower
right-hand
corner,
and
that
is
not
even
12
feet
from
the
alley
and
let
alone
20
or
30
or
40
or
whatever.
They
said.
That
is
way
too
darn
close
to
the
alley
to
build
a
five
storey
building
and
there's
people
live
in
here.
AO
Don't,
like
you
know,
I
mean
we
like
the
project.
I.
Think
most
of
us
agree.
We,
like
you,
know
having
an
alley
cleaned
up,
and
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
alcoholics
that
like
to
hang
out
back
there
because
of
the
liquor
store,
and
we
think
this
new,
this
new
building
will
not
be
friendly
to
people.
That
think
RL
is
a
good
place
to
get
drunk
but
anyway.
AO
A
J
L
Evening
my
name
is
Jennifer
Bachman
I'm,
a
resident
at
46:32,
Minnehaha
Avenue,
so
I
will
be
sharing
an
alley
with
the
new
development
and
I
am
a
neighbor
of
Maryland.
A
couple
things
I
can
address
tonight
that
I
will
just
go
ahead
and
piggyback
on
the
height
of
the
building,
because
I
know
that
is
topics
this
evening.
I
had
a
question
and
I'm
not
sure
if
people
can
answer
that
question
at
this
point
in
the
game,
but
currently
the
building
is
I
mean
I.
Don't
I
haven't
gone
out
and
done
my
slope.
L
You
know
mathematics
on
it
approximately
three
to
five
feet
higher
the
ground
is
built
up
about
three
to
five
feet
higher
than
the
current
alley.
So
my
first
question
is:
when
we're
talking
about
elevation
and
raising
the
height
of
a
building,
I
need
to
know
where
it's
done.
What's:
Ground
Zero
I
can
I.
AM
L
So
then,
I'm
going
to
take
that
information
and
I'm
going
to
go
on
to
my
next
concern-
and
maybe
this
should
have
been
addressed
on
during
item
eight,
because
it
does
have
to
do
a
little
bit
with
landscaping,
but
primarily
I
will
consider
myself
a
bit
of
a
neighborhood
alley
expert
and
our
alley
has
had
problems.
I've
lived
there
for
20
years.
It's
taken
me
almost
20
years
to
figure
out
how
to
survive.
Ally.
L
L
It
starts
to
go
downhill
again,
so
you
can
see,
with
the
current
building
I've
been
involved
a
little
bit
with
trying
to
understand
watershed,
drainage,
storm
water
drain
off
and
all
that
information.
It
was
pretty
much
above
my
head,
but
you
can
see
how
we
have
huge
problems
with
a
lot
of
water
sitting
where
it
looks
like
there's
going
to
be
a
potential
driveway
and
then
extending
arms
towards
the
next
four
or
five
homeowners
houses.
So
we
talked
about
trucks
coming
through
there.
L
Added
traffic
I
just
want
to
know
or
ask
that
we
be
very
cognizant,
especially
with
the
city.
The
city
is
going
to
have
to
do
a
lot
more
plowing
through
this
alley.
One
of
the
big
things
that
happens
when
I
think
about
trucks
using
this
alley
is
the
fact
that
we
get
a
snow.
The
alley
goes
like
this.
The
snowplow
comes
through
the
snowplow
is
not
like
this.
The
snowplow
is
flat,
so
there
is
always
some
snow
residue
left
over.
They
never
get
all
the
way
down
to
the
Flint.
Then
we
live
in
Minnesota.
L
We
get
a
warm
day
in
February
slush
begins
to
happen,
and
sometimes
it
rains,
and
sometimes
it's
sleep.
The
end
of
the
story
is,
is
that
many
many
winters
we
can
have
12-inch
what
I
call
ice
potholes
in
our
alley.
It
doesn't
happen
for
the
whole
alley
because,
like
I
said
it
goes
down
and
then
it
kind
of
plateaus
and
then
it
goes
down
again
as
a
personal
resident.
One
of
the
things
I've
learned
is
that
I
have
to
plow
my
alley.
L
I
am
out
there
with
a
snow
shovel
by
hand
after
it
snows
shoveling
my
alley.
I
just
say:
that's
my
us,
women,
fitness
and
when
it
starts
the
melt,
I
go
out
there
and
I
push
the
water
down
the
alley.
Cuz
I
grew
up
on
a
farm
and
that's
what
you
do
you
get
out
there
and
I
manually
push
the
water
down
the
alley
to
get
that
through
to
get
that
flush
moving.
So
I
just
ask
that
these
added
trucks
are
going
to,
hopefully
not
make
more
work
for
me.
L
L
My
garage
is
at
a
90-degree
angle,
with
the
alley
I
require
at
least
three
to
four
feet
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
alley
to
use
to
get
into
a
ninety
degree
garage
that
means
I
have
to
shovel
three
feet
on
the
other
side
of
the
alley
so
that
I
can
get
in
and
out
of,
my
garage
I
need
a
place
to
put
that
snow.
So
currently,
there's
a
10.5
measurement
of
space,
I
think
is
allotted
for
landscaping.
L
L
Is
it
going
to
go
I'm,
not
an
expert
in
this
area,
so
I
don't
know
the
answers.
I
can
just
tell
you
the
problems
that
we've
been
having
and
I
think
that
pretty
much
covers
my
concerns
with
the
alley
and
the
trucks
coming
in
and
out
on.
The
increased
traffic
I'm
learned
a
little
bit
regarding
parking
from
the
previous
very
long
item,
I'm
wondering
if
there's
anything
the
city
could
do
on
a
temporary
basis
for
us.
L
Because
two
years
ago
we
lived
through
the
reconstruction
of
Minnehaha
Avenue
I
almost
killed
me
a
couple
days,
I'm
wondering
if,
on
a
temporary
basis,
we
can
get
parking
permits
so
that
we
didn't
have
to
become
a
neighborhood
like
so
us
as
neighbors,
wouldn't
have
to
be
inconvenienced
and
take
time
out
of
our
days
to
try
to
go
to
this
endeavor,
but
perhaps
that
for
the
duration
of
this
construction
period,
a
single-family
home
get
a
couple
permit
passes.
If
you
live
in
a
duplex,
you
get.
L
Four
permit
passes
that
just
that
Street
becomes
permit
parking,
only
or
extremely
short-term
parking
during
the
time
of
construction,
because
I'm
going
to
guess
that
during
this
construction,
it's
going
to
be
really
difficult
to
get
in
and
out
of
our
alley
and
use
our
car
parks
in
the
back,
and
there
is
a
pilgrimage
to
Minnehaha
Park
and
parking
in
the
front
is
pretty
much
impossible.
The
other
idea
that
I
had
was
to
also
paint
lions,
because
people
don't
park
very
efficiently.
L
A
lot
of
people
don't
like
to
parallel
park,
so
they
waste
a
lot
of
spaces.
So
it's
the
city
at
all
or
if
you
could
direct
us
and
what
we
could
do
instead
of
having
to
organize
ourselves
as
a
neighborhood
go
apply
for
this
special
permit
pass.
If
we
could
just
do
it
as
a
temporary
thing
during
the
time
of
the
construction
and
that
that
be
led
or
spearheaded
by
somebody
else
other
than
us
individuals,
all.
L
L
Now
we
don't
currently
have
any
lighting
back
there
I'm
going
to
guess,
but
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
lighting
installed
and
I
would
like
to
be
part
of
that
conversation
or
some
of
those
community
members,
because
that's
going
to
mean
I
know
that
was
brought
up
by
another
community
resident
in
a
different
part
of
the
city.
But
that's
huge.
L
So
I
first
want
to
make
a
couple
comments.
We
are
not
in
a
food
desert,
we
have
three
grocery
stores
but
are
like
within
a
mile
and
a
half
I
can
walk
to
one
by
oles.
I
can
last
Macomb
is
food.
Pride
I
can
like
to
come
well,
I,
probably
rightly
like
to
cut
whatever
so
we're
not
in
a
grocery
store
food
desert,
but
I'm
not
necessarily
opposed
to
a
grocery
store
with
me
and
either
and
I
do
just
want
to
say
that
I'm
not
quite
sure
why
we
would
have
to
have
five
stories.
L
I
think
that
it
is
a
bit
excessive
as
a
neighborhood
when
a
light
rail
went
in,
we
had
a
community
lot
of
community
forums
and
we
believed
as
a
community,
that
these
buildings
should
not
exceed
three
or
four
stories
and
I.
Don't
really
know
what
that
means:
retail
plus
three
apartment
stories
or
exactly
what
that
was,
but
I'm
not
quite
sure
why
we
have
to
change
that,
because
I
think
so
the
community
kind
of
expressed
what
they
wanted.
L
L
L
I,
don't
know
why
we
would
have
to
like
so
many
and
are
we
really
thinking
long
term
because
I
don't
know
a
single
soul,
who's
going
to
be
able
to
afford
$1700
for
a
two-bedroom
apartment,
I
mean
I'm,
a
college,
educated
woman
and
special
education
teacher
of
raise
two
kids
and
I
certainly
could
not
afford
$1,700
a
month,
so
CMAs
be
trending
a
little
bit
more
towards
gentrification.
In
my
opinion,
but
I
guess
my
comments
visit
all.
AP
Try
to
talk
fast
and
I
talk
fast
anyway,
so
I
echo
the
issues
with
the
ally,
so
whatever
we
can
do,
it
affects
not
great
but
my
bigger
problem
via
there's
a
big
old
truck
parked
right
in
front
of
my
garage,
because
that's
not
going
to
be
okay.
I
live
right
next
to
Marilyn's
on
the
third
help
soon
oh
and
I'm
Emily
Schmidt.
By
the
way.
My
other
concern
is
the
off-peak
trucks
coming
well.
AP
The
other
thing
that
we
talked
about
was
the
drunks
in
the
alley
and
I
don't
want
to
give
them
just
a
bigger
space
to
play
in
the
parking
lot
so
I'm,
assuming
there
will
be
some
sort
of
security
that
will
kind
of
monitor
the
lighting
will
help
with
that
I
think,
but
as
much
as
I
love.
My
liquor
store,
there
are
some
unsavory
characters
who,
like
it
a
little
bit
more
than
I,
do
and
then
they
have
were
asked
me
and
it's
to
the
point.
AP
I've
called
the
cops
multiple
times:
it's
not
safe.
So
as
long
as
we
keep
it
safe,
I'm,
fine
with
it,
everybody
keeps
talking
about
all
of
these
pedestrians
and
pedestrians
are
walking.
I
am
that
pedestrian
I
do
have
a
car,
but
I
Drive.
It
maybe
once
a
month
to
go
to
my
Cub,
which
I
love
but
I
do
walk
to
the
light
rail
and
I
get
hit
or
almost
hit
at
least
probably
once
a
week.
AP
I
am
constantly
paying
super
close
attention
to
what's
going
on,
because
cars
are
not
other
pedestrians
or
not
everybody's
on
their
phones
and
they
don't
care
about
anybody
but
themselves.
So
I
like
the
idea
of
a
much
safer
way
to
get
across
46.
However,
I
think
the
city
of
Minneapolis
needs
to
also
consider
a
safer
way
to
get
across
55.
We
sit
and
hit
the
light
hit.
The
light.
Please
wait,
please
wait,
please
wait
and
then
the
lights
change
and
it
should
turn
to
walk
and
it
does
and
I
could
miss
three
trains.
AP
The
time
I
actually
get
across
when
it
says,
walk
so
I
am
one
of
those
people
who
walk
across
and
it's
not
letting
me
do
it,
but
I
understand
how
the
lights
work
that
blind
person
next
to
me.
Doesn't
the
person
in
the
wheelchair
who's
trying
to
get
across
in
18
seconds.
It
gives
you
it's
not
enough
time,
so
it's
not
only
getting
across
46.
It's
also
getting
to
the
light
rail
I
know.
A
AQ
Thank
you
for
letting
me
speak
I'll
try
to
make
this
short.
My
name's
Dan
Farrell
I
live
at
4704
Minnehaha,
so
I'm
down
the
street
of
ways,
I'm
lucky
that
this
building
will
not
be
directly
behind
my
house,
not
yet
I'm.
Very
glad
of
that,
because
I
would
be
very
concerned
about
the
shadow
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
vehicle
about
the
alley.
It
is
a
story
state
of
affairs.
AQ
It
is
so
bad
that,
even
though
there
is
a
lot
of
driving
around
there,
I
don't
feed
nearly
as
much
on
the
alley
that
I
would
expect,
because
I
think
the
visitors
know
how
useless
of
an
alley
it
is
to
try
to
drive
through,
especially
in
the
winter.
Thank
goodness.
But
it
is
really
a
sorry
state
I
mean
go,
go
skating
out
there,
this
winter.
AQ
If
you
don't
believe
me
because
you'll
be
able
to
skate
right
down
the
alley
on
your,
I
th
I
want
to
talk
more
about
the
number
of
people,
we're
talking
about
a
building
with
146
units
and
a
big
grocery
store
right,
47,000
square
feet.
That's
a
pretty
big
grocery
store
and
it's
not
a
big-box
store,
but
it's
pretty
big
getting
up
there
right
how
many
turkey
spots
are
going
to
fit
in
that
lot.
AQ
I
didn't
see
a
number
I,
don't
know
what
you
can
provide
a
number
but
146,
it's
pretty
safe
to
guess
that
there's
going
to
be
a
car
for
each
one
of
those
rented
apartments.
I
love
the
car
free
city
vision,
but
these
are
renters.
You
know
they
don't
live
in
the
city.
Full-Time
like
like
our
the
property
owners
do
they're
going
to
have
to
park
somewhere
and
they're
not
going
to
fit
in
that
lot.
Then
the
people
for
the
grocery
store
arms
so
just
doing
the
math.
AQ
You
know,
assuming
even
just
one
car
per
unit
at
a
couple
of
hundred
people
in
the
grocery
store.
There's
not
space
for
parking
for
these
cars
and
I
think
it
is
a
balance
in
certain
in
the
summer.
It's
a
very
busy
part.
It's
a
very
popular
park
and
I'm
concerned
that
there
won't
be
any
parking
for
anyone.
I
also
wanted
to
discuss
the
issue
for
the
residents
on
the
block
of
being
able
to
get
out
of
their
garages.
AQ
AD
AQ
To
put
it
somewhere,
I
put
it
in
my
garage
and
I
really
need
to
be
able
to
pull
out
four
feet
to
get
into
it.
Out
of
my
garage,
I
also
have
a
little
Honda
Civic
to
make
up
for
the
carbon
footprint
and
I
also
need
to
pull
into
that
leeway
to
get
in
and
out
of
the
garage.
The
Honda
Civic
I
mean
it.
You
cannot
turn
into
a
garage
from
yeah,
there's
no
way
you're
going
to
do
it.
AQ
So
it's
really
important
that
there's
nothing
there
that
we
expressly
say
cars
need
to
be
able
to
drive
here.
Speaking
of
cars
driving
in
the
alley.
I
would
much
appreciate
an
amendment
to
add
speed
bumps
to
the
alley,
if
at
all
possible,
because
I
don't
want
to
see
I'm
not
so
concerned
about
the
talks.
AQ
I
think
we'll
follow
the
rule
that
important
for
you,
but
the
residents
and
the
drivers
in
that
area
will
go
down
the
alley
and
turn
out
as
a
lot
of
how
to
get
back
on
Minnehaha,
because
it
will
be
zero
lights
and
the
whole
place
is
crazy
down
there
with
pedestrians.
In
fact,
the
pedestrian
traffic
in
the
whole
area
is
actually
really
bad.
I
used
to
have
an
apartment,
Whittier
a
lot
of
people,
a
lot
of
cars.
AQ
The
danger
I
feel
on
the
street
daily
is
way
worse
than
my
neighborhood
than
it
was
in
Whittier,
because
people
what
people
have
said
people
just
aren't
paying
attention
they
get
off.
Fifty
five
and
get
out
of
the
forty
six
and
I
think
the
life
is
going
to
help
a
lot
so
I.
Really
that
really
needs
to
happen.
A
little
break
up
the
traffic
flow
and
that
light
really
helpful
lot.
But
overall
I
think
you
should
look
really
carefully
about
these
variances
and
ask
yourself:
why
do
we
need
a
fifth
floor?
AQ
Why
do
we
need
more
than
double
the
default
allowed
space
in
the
grocery
store?
I
mean
obviously
works
well
for
the
investment
company
and
I
can
appreciate
that,
and
you
know
it's
going
to
add
a
lot
of
units,
but
the
number
of
units
is
in
the
variance
right.
The
number
of
units
isn't
necessarily
going
to
change
here.
Are
they
bigger
or
how
does
that
fit
for
work
here?
AQ
I
realized
that
we're
looking
at
a
state
of
the
city
where
there's
more
bikes
and
more
cars
or
people
in
higher
densities
and
that's
the
direction
we're
going
to
go
in
but
I
think
we
should
take
careful
steps.
There's
more
than
enough
space
to
develop
along
55
without
making
every
store
every
building
a
little
taller
than
we
even
were
going
to
allow
figure
all.
AA
My
name
is
Harry
Hartigan
and
I
live
on
the
block
that
will
back
up
to
this
development.
I
worked
on
the
project
previously
with
Sandy
Cove
and
Roy
in
2005,
when
we
planned
500
units
back
there,
which
included
the
strip
mall
and
bridge
mins,
and
all
that
kind
of
thing
and
I
realized
the
high
density
of
that
area.
How
important
that
is
to
the
city
and
I
have
no
objections
to
the
building.
I
think
it'll
be
a
huge
improvement
over
the
cap
site
that
there's
right
now,
I
am
concerned
about
the
grocery
store.
AA
AA
We
right
now
on
that
street
cannot
park
period
when
the
park
is
active,
which
is
a
spring
winter
or
not
too
much
winter,
but
the
fall
and
summer.
So
we
can't
ignore
that
piece
that
that's
part
of
this
development
and
that
eventually,
whatever
happens
at
that
site
on
protecting
that
alleyway,
those
things
are
all
important
and
I
guess
what
I'm
asking
is
that
the
developer
worked
with
the
people
who
back
up
to
that
site
because
we're
going
to
be
forced
to
live
with
it
and
that's
what
I
think
is
critical
here.
AA
AO
A
AN
J
K
J
Mean
it's
nice
to
be
out
at
night.
It's
how
about
ourselves!
It's
very
pleasant!
You
know
in
the
evening
and
and
I
want
to
cleave
like
parking
lot
lights
bleeding
across
the
alley
so
just
concerned
I
mean
it.
How
far
is
that
going
to
go
back
because
it's
just
really
an
unpleasant
place
to
be
you
don't
want
to
be
in
your
backyard
and
I,
don't
have
any
place
else
to
go.
You
go
to
the
park.
J
J
AR
Nora
Volkow
Nevsky
I
live
at
46,
eight
Minnehaha
and
my
house
is
actually
built
on
the
alley
5
feet
from
the
alley.
I
have
all
my
windows
right
there
and
the
fourth
house
down
so
I'm
about
ready
now
to
throw
up
when
I
hear
some
ID.
So
Ducks
are
going
to
come
down
that
alley
because
it
makes
me
sick,
I,
get
headaches
and
sick
some
diesel
exhaust
base
to
figure
out
a
way
to
enter
it
in
their
own
property
and
not
come
down
our
alley.
AR
That's
terrific,
although
I'm
very
appreciative
that
they're
taking
away
that
building
that
was
built
the
year
that
I
moved
in
1995
when
they
built
that
giant
building
it's
all
flat
and
there's
that
one
place
where
all
the
water
comes
out.
The
middle
building
you've
heard
about
the
water
and
ice
problems.
Well,
this
is,
it
would
come
out
and
turn
into
giant
glaciers
and
then
at
some
point
crash
down
in
the
Elias.
You
know
you
could
die
if
you
were
walking
down
the
alley.
I,
don't
know
why
they
ever
let
them
do
that.
AR
I
heard
they
have
to
pay
money
to
the
watershed
district.
Because
of
how
screwed
up
their
water
thing
is,
but
so
I'm
really
grateful
that
that
buildings
going
away
and
I
freaked
out
that
there's
going
to
be
diesel
coming
down
my
alley
and
my
main
point
that
I
wanted
to
bring
up
and
I
know
it's
not
yet
because
we're
living
in
the
past
type
of
energy
program,
but
50%
of
our
fossil
fuel
use
is
for
heating
and
cooling
of
buildings,
and
my
opinion
is
even
though
they
don't
have
ordinances
yet
or
demand.
AR
You
know,
control
of
what
people
do
they're
going
to
dig
into
the
ground
to
build
a
new
building
I'd
like
some
house.
It
asked
for
this
just
to
do
the
right
thing.
There
is
an
ordinance
to
get,
but
geothermal
heating
and
cooling
is
so
important
and
I
know
if
everyone
knows
about
it,
but
the
candidates
running
for
mayor
at
governor
next
year,
sir,
do
Rebecca
Otto
has
it
in
for
home.
It's
extremely
important
and
it's
been
neglected
so
far
as
an
issue,
but
anyway
it's
not
part
of
this
issue
that
I
just
asked
all.
AR
Could
you
consider
doing
the
right
thing
in
us,
like
our
library
hit
when
they
renovated
our
Nokomis
library
they
dug
in
and
put
the
deal
thermo,
and
so
it
cost
like
fifteen
dollars
a
month
to
heat
and
cool
the
place.
So
that's
my
main
issue
with
that.
But
I'm
going
to
freeze
out
of
semi
trucks
are
coming
down.
My
alley
I
might
have
to
turn
into
a
terrorist,
because
the
way
it
makes
me
feel
to
breathe
diesel
would
make
me
mentally
disturbed
enough.
That
I,
you
know
whatever
sorry.
A
AN
AN
Because
I
I
heard
two
things
that
I
that
I
think
are
I
can
help
with
the
conversation
that
is
factual,
the
first
one
why
it's
getting
pulled
up
is
I,
believe
and
I
during
a
lot
of
the
public
meetings.
We
we
discussed
it
but
I
think
a
lot
of
the
alley.
Conditions
with
the
ice
is
that
the
scuppers
from
the
building
drain
right
to
the
alley
and
the
building
actually
is
built
pretty
much
on
the
property
line.
AN
AN
So,
yes,
that
was
one
thing,
I
think
was
easily
corrected
and
then
okay,
can
you
guys
see
my
see
my
mouse
here?
But
but
one
of
the
reasons
of
this
geometry
here
is
bad.
When
trucks
enter
the
site
from
46th
Street,
they
pull
off
the
alley
right
where
the
current
city
lot
is
right
now
and
then
they
back
into
the
loading
dock
and
then
they
have
to
exit
the
site.
This
way
to
likely
55
will
be
a
right
out
on
55
would
be
the
most
expedient
way
to
return
or
make
their
next
delivery.
AN
So
because
of
this
geometry,
and
because
of
where
the
alley
hits
Nevada
hot,
you
know
unless
a
trucker
wants
to
make
loops
around
the
alley,
there's
no
physical
way
to
access
the
site
and
load
if
you're
coming
northbound
down
the
alley-
and
it's
purposely
designed
that
way.
So
there
should
be
zero
truck
traffic
beyond
the
city-owned
parcel.
Because
of
this
geometry,
all.
A
AN
Probably
eight
eight
to
ten
per
week
and
and
and
again
timing
would
be
you
know,
there's
conditions
of
approval,
but
I
think
it's
usually
from
8
a.m.
till
10
is
the
most
yawning
in
the
grocery
world,
the
most
frequent
we
know
which
shelves
are
being
replenished
and
then
there
you
know
there
are
some
trucks
that
would
remain
in
the
shelter
the
loading
dock,
for
you
know,
work
inside
8.
AN
AM
AH
Agree
no
question
for
the
applicant,
so
in
the
packet
on
page
five,
we've
got
that
site
plan,
which
seems
a
little
bit
more
conceptual
than
the
actual
plans
that
are,
you
know
further
out
of
the
packet
and
the
the
way
the
traffic
works.
Coming.
You
know
down
Snelling
out
of
the
parking
lot
and
over
255
seems
to
make
a
little
bit
more
sense.
Long
term,
then,
as
a
councilman
vendor
was
saying
sort
of
like
the
spaghetti
thing
that
is
going
on
now
and
I
mean.
AN
J
AH
AN
AH
All
right
yeah,
it's
kind
of
hard,
so
you
bet
at
label
this
five,
not
sure
word
yeah
there
you
go
so
just
because
sort
of
thinking,
long-term
about
potentially
having
a
bike
facility
that
goes
along
Hiawatha
there
and
you've
got
that
on
the
site
plan.
The
way
that
the
bike
facility
interacts
Snelling.
There
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
and
it's
kind
of
hard
to
imagine
working
that
into
what
you've
actually
got
proposed,
so
I
mean.
Is
there
a
way
that
that
intersection
could
be
simplified?
A
little
bit
I.
AN
Think
the
answer
is
yes
and
agree,
and
maybe
Janelle
could
speak
to
this.
But
one
of
the
Hennepin
County
comments
which
has
been
incorporated
into
the
final
submit
all
was
to
add
that
additional
kind
of
swoop
or
change
to
discourage
cut
through
traffic,
and
that's
what
you
see
there
that
I
think
from
it
is
the
Hennepin
County
updates
to
that
that
plan
that
had
it.
Let's
call
it
an
easier
movement
found
from
snowing,
look
snowing
extension.
AN
S
AN
AN
K
AN
A
permanent
easement
to
Minneapolis
should
access
here
or
here
on
behalf
of
the
city
or
the
county,
choose
to
be
closed
and
I.
Think
that
does
simplify
this
intersection
to,
but
it's
on
the
other
side
of
the
railroad
tracks
properties.
So
beyond
our
control,
but
we've
dedicated
that
additional
option
to
simplify
intersections
should
access
to
the
to
business
want
to
come
via
permanent
easement.
Here
any
help
on
that.
My.
AD
Name
is
Trisha
C
with
Kim
Lee
horn,
2550,
University
Avenue,
st.
Paul
Andrew,
said
a
civil
engineer,
working
with
Abaddon
this
project
and
we
have
had
countless
hours
and
conversations
as
well
as
City
Public
Works
with
the
county.
Looking
at
the
specific
intersection
and
it
is,
it
is
really
tricky
because
you
have
a
couple
driveways
that
are
coming
in
at
the
same
point,
so
we
try
to
make
it
as
efficient
and
as
safe
as
possible
with
some
changes
that
County
wanted
to
start
discourage
the
cut
to
cut
through
traffic
coming
from
Snelling
straight
255.
AD
Right
there
with
the
access
to
the
strip
retail,
and
then
we
also
have
showing
right
now.
This
potentially
could
be
an
interim
plan
if
some
of
the
other
access
to
the
Burger
King
and
the
gas
station
were
changed
in
the
future,
looking
at
it
from
an
overall
roadway
Network
plant
and
what
does
the
city
and
vision
for
the
future
roadway
Network,
and
how
does
this
intersection
play
into
it?
AH
AN
AB
AB
A
I
A
AH
AH
A
AF
I'd
like
to
offer
a
condition
of
approval
number
12,
which
is
that
the
Apple
can
provide
a
marked
by
kraut
on
snowing,
snowing,
Avenue
extension
between
46th
Street
and
the
proposed
bike
path
on
the
rail
adjacent
rail
extension.
Until
such
time
as
the
rail
extension
path
continues,
north
46
straight.
A
AF
Commissioner
Mac:
well,
let
me
just
offer
one
other
item
here,
which
is
I
would
encourage
you
to
look
at
the
safest,
possible
type
of
bike
route.
It's
hard
to
tell
what
is
possible
from
these
drawings.
Ideally,
some
kind
of
protected
route,
getting
people
to
46th
Street
with
dollard's
or
some
planters,
but
I
hesitate
to
give
that
condition,
because
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
technically
feasible
and
I
want
you
to
work
with
staff
Public
Works
to
to
do
whatever
is
possible
there,
but
you
know,
if
possible,
to
do
something
beyond
just
that
chicanes.