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From YouTube: June 26, 2017 City Planning Commission
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Minneapolis City Planning Commission Meeting
A
Good
afternoon,
I
will
call
to
order
the
June
26th
meeting
of
the
Minneapolis
City
Planning
Commission.
My
name
is
Matt
Brown
I
serve
as
president
of
the
Commission
I'm
joined
today
by
Commissioner
Anna
green,
oh
slack,
looky,
peer,
Breeland
and
Rockwell.
This
time,
please
silence
any
mobile
devices
and
we
can
get
started
with
our
meeting.
Our
first
item
of
business
is
to
approve
the
actions
from
the
June
12th
meeting.
They
have
a
motion
to
approve
those
actions.
A
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
all
in
favor,
and
that
motion
carries
our
next
item.
Business
is
to
approve
the
agenda.
You
can
find
hard
copies
of
the
agenda
and
the
hallway
will
determine
which
items
will
be
considered
on
the
consent
agenda
and
which
will
be
discussed
so
starting
at
the
top
of
the
agenda
item.
One
is
captionmax
at
alight.
This
is
a
twenty
four
thirty,
eight
twenty
seventh
Avenue
South,
that
is
a
conditional
use
permit
for
communications
antenna.
Anyone
wishing
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
modify
the
staffs
recommendation
on
item.
A
One
thing:
no
one
will
put
item
one
on
consent.
Item
two
is
a
twenty
five
fourteen
Lake
place
and
2505
East
Lake
of
the
Isles
Parkway.
That's
a
minor
subdivision
request.
An
item
two
has
been
withdrawn,
so
we'll
consider
the
withdrawal
of
that
item.
That's
so
if
anyone
was
here
for
that
item,
we
will
not
be
considering
it
today.
Item
three
is
Raptor
nine
rooftop
lot
law
that
2909
Bryant
Avenue
South
several
applications
for,
in
addition
to
a
building
there
we'll
discuss
item
three.
Is
anyone
wishing
to
speak
on
that
item?
A
Just
so,
I
have
a
sense.
All
right.
One
person
item
four
is
Rex
26th
at
2601
through
26:21
Lyndale,
Avenue
South.
Several
applications
for
a
new
mixed-use
building
will
discuss
item
four
and
as
also
as
anyone
wishing
to
speak
on
item
four.
So
we
have
a
few
people
who'd
like
to
speak
on
that
item
as
well
item
5
is
the
Hiawatha
collegiate
high
school
at
35,
30
East
28th
Street.
That
is
involved
several
applications
for
an
addition
for
a
school
and
athletic
field.
A
There
will
discuss
item
five
and
also
as
anyone
wishing
to
speak
on
item
five.
So
a
few
people
are
here
for
that
as
well
and
then
item
six
is
1500
Nicollet
at
11:00
West
15th,
Street,
I'm,
1515,
10,
15,
18,
15,
38,
15,
44,
Nicollet
Avenue,
several
applications
for
a
new
mixed-use
building.
There
will
also
discuss
item
six
and
as
anyone
wishing
to
speak
on
item
six,
so
one
person
on
that
so
we'll
discuss
that
item
item
seven
is
at
30
145
through
3149
Hennepin
Avenue,
several
applications
for
a
new
excuse
building
there.
A
Anyone
wishing
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
modify
the
staff
recommendation
on
item
7c,
no
one
will
put
item
7
on
consent
and
finally,
item
8
is
a
zoning
code
text,
amendment
that
relates
to
step
back
requirements
and
non
residential
zoning
district.
Anyone
wishing
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
modify
the
staff
recommendation
on
item
8c.
No
one
will
put
that
on
consent.
A
B
Thank
You
president
Brown.
We
had
one
item
that
we
heard
at
the
June
15th
committee,
the
whole
that
was
a
land
sale
for
3229
4th
Street
north
and
the
recommended
motion
was
to
approve
staff
recommendation
at
the
plan
or
the
that.
The
item
was
consistent
with
the
Minneapolis
plan
for
sustainable
growth.
All.
A
A
And
that
motion
carries
next
we'll
move
on
to
our
public
hearings
and
at
this
time,
I'll
open
the
public
hearing
for
the
items
on
the
consent
agenda.
Again,
that's
items
1
7,
&
8.
Anyone
wishing
to
speak
on
items,
1
7,
4
8,
you
know
and
I-
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
may
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda.
A
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
all
in
favor,
and
that
motion
carries
next.
We'll
move
on
to
our
items
for
discussion
and
we'll
start
with
item
3
and
staff
has
miss
de
Bourgh
act.
That's
a
raptor,
9
rooftop
loss.
I
understand
there
are
few
outstanding
issues
with
some
of
the
conditions
there.
So
if
you
want
to
focus
your
presentation
on
that,
that
would
be
great
one.
D
A
Think
yeah,
you
know
I
think
that's
probably
fine,
unless
any
other
commissioners
have
any
questions
of
you,
I
don't
see
any
so
maybe
we
can.
We
can
do
that
so,
okay,
I'll
within
the
public
hearing
on
item
3
and
the
applicant
is
here.
If
you
could
speak
to
some
of
your
concerns
about
those
conditions.
E
Good
afternoon,
commissioners,
my
name
is
J
Eisenberg,
I'm,
an
architect
and
I'm,
representing
and
consulting
with
the
owner
on
this
project.
The
owner
is
here
and
we
are
waiting
for
the
design
team,
st.
Paul,
architects,
I
think
they
don't
quite
understand
so,
hopefully
they'll
be
able
to
address
some
of
the
issues,
we're
pleased
that
they
generally
will
be
approved
for
this
project.
E
We
think
it's
a
pretty
innovative
and
exciting
project,
and
specifically,
we
would
like
to
address
a
couple
of
items
that
we
would
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
further
about
or
and
be
in
discussion
with.
First
of
all,
I'm
assuming
that
item
number
one
is
a
typo
and
that
the
landscaping
would
be
required
to
be
2018.
C
A
A
E
E
We
hadn't
heard
that
it
was
going
to
be
a
setback
required
for
the
rooftop,
so
I
think
the
massing
I
guess
do
you
have
the
packet
of
the
drawings,
yep,
okay,
okay
and
again
I'm
stalling
a
little
bit
for
the
design
team
to
address
this
they're
too
involved
there
from
the
beginning,
but
we
believe
the
unit
size
and
the
rooftop
is
a
small
footprint
and
we're
looking.
We
were
looking
for
a
as
close
to
that
front
setback
as
possible.
E
E
They
have
specific
reasons
that
they'd
like
to
do
that
and
I'd
like
to
hopefully
have
them
address
that
number.
Six
at
least
28
shrubs
I
think
that
they
have
some
specific
reasons
to
use.
Prairie
grasses,
rather
than
shrubs
I
think
there's
been
some
difficulty
and
maintenance
on
some
of
the
shrubs,
but
they
have
proposing
that
they
use
prairie
grasses
in
that
area.
E
The
trees
are
not
a
problem.
Number
eight
number:
nine.
We
think
that
that's
going
to
just
result
in
dead
plants
and
snow
covering
and
not
going
to
be
very
successful
as
a
strategy.
I
understand
why
it's
there
and
why
the
site
plan
review
would
want
that
again.
I
refer
to
29th
Street
as
recently
beautified
and
definitely
landscape.
The
corners
of
these
properties
I
think,
will
suffer
it's
it's
alley
bound
almost
on
two
sides.
So
so
that's
number
nine
number
ten
we're
not
quite
sure
where
we
would
put
a
tree
on
this
property.
E
Don't
have
any
questions
about
that
bicycle
spots
are
fine
and
number.
Thirteen
is
the
trash
enclosure.
This
is
a
really
difficult
site
and
it's
possible
that
the
owner
could
address
this
better.
But
again
the
current
public
works
access
to
pick
up
the
trash
is
very
tight
and
I'm,
not
even
sure
that
they
do
it
legally,
but
we
would
think
that
a
dumpster
enclosure
and
this
very
tight
thing
would
impact
both
the
ability
for
the
Public
Works
to
manage
their
operations
without
and
also
losing
parking
spaces.
It's
possible
I,
don't
know
most.
E
If
you
want
to
be
able
to
speak
to
that
or
not
that's
good,
you
want
to
speak
to
the
dumpster
piece.
If
you
want
to
just
let
go:
okay,
okay,
the
owner
is
much
more
familiar
with
the
operation
of
his
buildings.
He's
former
owner
of
the
adjacent
building
on
the
other
side
itself
on
the
Isle
le
and
he's
been
there
for
a
number
of
years
and
is
very
familiar
with
how
Public
Works
operates
their
trash.
It's
a
very
tight
corner
with
telephone
poles,
and
things
like
that.
So
we
think
that
might
be
an
onerous
obligation.
E
E
A
A
G
G
Logistically
it's
difficult.
We
share.
In
fact,
we
we
don't
have
separate
trash
and
recycling
containers,
because
we
decided
that
it's
more
efficient
for
us
to
share
them
and
not
have
four
containers.
So
both
five
and
the
office
building
share
a
dumpster
for
recycling
and
trash.
It
is
really
difficult
because
of
the
alleys
and
the
configuration
is
a
lot
etcetera
to
get
pickups,
so
we
have
located.
If
you
look
in
the
top
right
hand
corner
that's
where
trash
and
we
I'm
sorry
trash
and
recycling.
G
It's
difficult
to
do
things,
so
that's
why
we've
placed
the
the
receptacles
there
we've
been
cohabitating
or
existing
I
guess
with
blue,
which
is
behind
us
to
the
east
and
I'm
in
constant
dialogue
with
them,
and
it's
never
been
an
issue
since
that's
been
built
or
nor.
We
had
any
complaints
from
any
of
the
neighbors
or
whatever,
because
it's
really
not
visible
to
anyone
else,
but
us
and
the
apartments
I
feel
via
rodent,
haven't
a
harbinger
if
we
have
to
enclose
it,
which
would
create
more
difficulty.
G
H
A
H
So
I
think
in
regards
to
that
five
foot
setback.
You
know
there
have
been
discussions
of
other
buildings,
it
just
kind
of
went
straight
up
on
the
top
from
the
existing
building
and
we've
put
a
lot
of
effort
into
massing
our
building
so
that
it's
articulated
in
terms
of
sort
of
moving
forward
and
back
from
the
face
of
the
building
and
being
sort
of
generous
and
interesting
to
look
at.
So
you
know,
I
think
if
it's
sort
of
a
design
issue
versus
something
that's
practical,
I'd
be
interested
in
sort
of
hearing.
What
that
critique
is.
H
The
landscaping
issue
one
thing
we've
talked
about
is
so
there's
the
recommendation
to
put
in
shrubs
we
prefer
aesthetically
to
put
in
grasses.
We
just
think
they
look
better
with
the
more
modern,
aesthetic
and
they're
just
easier
to
care
for
lots
of
people
walking
their
dogs
up
and
down
the
street
and
the
dogs
cause
trouble
with
the
landscaping.
H
There
was
a
recommendation
to
sort
of
remove
some
asphalt
and
put
in
landscaping.
We
put
snow
storage
in
that
area.
We
just
don't
think
anything's
going
to
really
live
and
we
think
just
look
better
and
cleaner.
It's
a
nice
new
asphalt
owner
takes
a
lot
of
pride
in
the
property.
It
looks
really
good
and
it's
well
kept.
So
you
know
we
think
everything.
H
A
H
I
A
C
I
Fast
and
obviously
we
did
not
plan
appropriately.
You
know
the
garages
are
showing
is
a
typical
gable
roof,
which
you
know
ironically
most
places.
It
would
be
like
great.
We
love
a
game.
We're
up
here,
request
to
do
a
flat
roof
and
the
flat
roof,
although
it
matches
with
the
the
stuff
we're
doing
another,
rooftop
really
doesn't
kind
of
match
the
typology
of
what
we
would
think
of
as
say
an
old
sort
of
metal
shed
that
you'd
sort
of
typically
and
you
can
see
sort
of
around
downtown
and
so
for
practical
reasons.
I
That
makes
sense
to
shed
this
water
on
the
side
and
then
water,
the
grass
or
they'd,
be
the
vines
rather
than
the
you
know,
the
door
side
and
from
a
sort
of
stylistic
way.
We
kind
of
feel
like
it's
a
collection
of
these
things
which
are
either
sort
of
neither
new
nor
old
but
have
sort
of
an
in-between
sort
of
character
to
them.
J
I
The
idea,
the
idea
that
we
just
sort
of
read
it
as
a
math,
because
that's
that's
kind
of
what
we're
you
know
it's
going
to
be
a
well.
We
have
some
flexibility
at
this
time.
The
reason
it's
rendered
as
Gray's.
It's
meant
to
be
sort
of
like
a
weather,
galvalume
kind
of
thing
you
know
like
you
would
see
if
it
was
there
for
say,
20
years
or
whatever
it
is
instead
of
either
you
know
bright,
red
or
yellow
or
whatever.
I
Now
we
obviously
have
some
flexibility
we've
showing
lines
on
there
now
actually
which
doubles
as
sort
of
camouflaging
the
thing,
but
also
providing
a
little
bit
more
green
as
we
requested
by
what
the
CPR.
So
what
you're
seeing
here
is
also
the
entry
is
sort
of
shown
as
yellow
or
orange,
in
here
too,
to
delineate
that,
from
from
the
rest
of
the
building,
here's
the
street
side,
you
can
see
the
garage
there
and
you
can
see
where
that
that
unit
is,
you
know,
definitely
different
than
the
other,
but
I
think
you
know
in
scale.
I
It
doesn't
try
to
match
the
old
building
on
the
entry
side.
Then
this
helps
to
just
say:
hey
here's,
an
entry,
there's
something
going
on
here,
while
masking
and
kind
of
dialling
out
the
rest
of
the
very
many
materials
that
exist
on
the
existing
building.
So
we're
not
trying
to
really
cover
up
the
history
of
the
home.
The
warehouse
enos
of
it,
but
just
I
think
provides
some
visual
interest
in
a
way
which
is
unique
to
this
project
and.
I
Mean
definitely
this
meant
to
be
what
the
requirements
for
the
getting
an
on
site
without
really
demolishing
a
lot
of
the
extra
parking.
That's
there
means
that
we
have
to
go
with
a
flush
garage.
The
nice
thing
is
that,
like
typologically,
that's
really
pretty
much
in
keeping
with
a
lot
of
those
sheds
that
you
see
and
I'm
thinking
about
the
ones
that
were
on
oh
right
on
well,
basically,
what
was
used
was
the
North
Loop
or
with.
J
A
I
K
H
Sure
so
one
thing
we
talked
about
was
using
the
vines,
and
this
just
has
to
be
designed
as
sort
of
a
detail
thing,
but
you
know
collecting
the
water
and
sort
of
finding
way
to
turn
it
into
those
vines
making
sure
it
isn't
a
hazard
with
the
sidewalk.
Obviously
we
don't
want
cheap
device
coming
off
of
it
and
there's
just
detail
items.
You
know
that
need
to
happen
for
that
in
terms
of
the
Bruce's
unit.
Now
the
idea
is
and
we're
doing
a
modular
construction.
H
We're
creaming
these
pieces
up
there
and
we
kind
of
want
to
just
celebrate
that
modular
aspect
by
having
that
read
as
something
that's
really
interesting
and
really
unique
as
a
sort
of
item
that's
on
the
roof
part
of
it.
By
having
it
sort
of
peak
out
there
is
when
you're
coming
up
the
Green
Line
or
when
you're
even
coming
down
lagoon,
it's
pretty
visible
up
there
and
it
kind
of
pokes
out
and
I
think
it's
something
that's
iconic,
and
just
really
in
keeping
with
a
lot
of
the
architecture
in
that
area.
H
K
I
That's
wrong:
water's
coming
up
the
bill,
it's
not
going
to
be
anymore
because
we
put
a
garage
there
right,
so
we
can't
I
mean
really.
These
are
details
that
I
guess
that
they're
specific
recommendations
here
we
obviously
we
don't
want
to
really
shed
right
onto
the
sidewalk
and
we
don't
want
to
set
onto
the
parking
area.
You
know
not
necessarily
we
want
to
retain
all
that
water
on
site.
Just
like
you
want
to
do
with
water
right,
and
so
we
don't
have
anything
rendered
and
we're
going
to
have.
I
A
Hand,
okay,
are
there
any
further
questions
of
the
applicant?
Not
is
there
anyone
else
here
who
would
like
to
speak
on
item
three
seeing
no
one
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
commissioners.
Are
there
any
further
questions
of
staff,
or
would
someone
like
to
start
us
off
with
a
motion
Commissioner,
real
and.
L
D
Well,
during
the
process
of
writing
this
doctor
part,
yes,
I
did
talk
with
the
applicant
about
some
of
our
concerns,
and
then
we
have
discussed
the
conditions
of
approval.
Since
the
report
was
published
on
the
web
last
Wednesday,
some
of
the
conditions,
as
you've
heard
they
are
amenable
to
as
far
as
the
building
editions
projecting
over
the
front
of
the
building.
We
have
from
I,
don't
want
to
say
historic
with
a
capital
H,
but
we
have
some
or
not
landmark
buildings,
but
not
only
in
marks
buildings
were.
D
We
have
had
rooftop
additions
done
to
them
where
they
have
come
straight
up
and
the
end
results
have
not
fared
well
from
a
design
perspective
in
our
opinion,
and
so
we
are
recommending.
That
is
how
we
arrived
at
that
recommendation,
to
have
that
side,
foot
setback
and
to
mimic
what
is
happening
on
myself
and
that
forth
of
the
addition
I
know
it
would
take
away
from
the
digit
design.
If
you
will
of
that
curved
front
wall,
however,
the
entire
modules
module
could
be
play
that
side
feet.
D
You
know
some
some
making
different
layouts
a
different
arrangement
of
having
that
move
back
could
be
made.
So
that
is
why
we
have
a
condition
about
the
building
walls.
As
far
as
the
roof
pitch
results
out
having
a
pitched
roof
on
a
flat
building
was
not
similar,
and
so
we
recommended
you
know
we
have
a
connect,
amend
a
ssin
or
a
stipulation
that
we
have
somewhere
riches
when
doing
additions,
and
so
we
are
making
that
recommendation
all
of
the
landscaping.
D
D
We
initially
discussed
vacating
this
portion
of
the
alley.
However,
that
would
make
the
process
longer,
given
that
it
requires
full
council
action,
and
so
the
applicant
at
this
juncture,
has
decided
not
to
petition
to
vacate
that
that
area,
if
you
will
I'm
not
sure
I
did
not
have
a
conversation
with
of
the
works.
D
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
needed
for
maneuvering
of
any
sort,
whether
it
be
trash
or
utility
overhead,
so
as
they
did
not
pursue
that,
recognizing
that
their
trash
was
currently
located
in
the
public,
right-of-way
and
meaning
to
have
that
conversation
with
Public
Works
about
an
encroachment
permit,
but
thinking
that
that
would
be
a
good
location.
Since
they
are
sitting
there
now
and
could
most
likely
continue
to
sit
there
in
the
future.
But
our
condition
is
to
have
those
enclosed,
as
we
do
all
trash
receptacles
that
do
sit
outside
and.
M
D
J
D
For
that
is
brought
up
in
this
tax
report,
the
that
second,
that
currently
exists
that
condition.
If
you
look
in
your
report,
I
don't
have
a
copy
of
that
handy
again.
When
the
Allied
vacated
half
would
have
gone
to
one
property
owner
Graco
at
the
time,
it's
no
longer
Greg
of
half
would
have
come
this
way,
and
so,
since
Greco
constructed
blue,
this
area
has
been
I'll,
ask
about
whether
they
were
striping
there
or
not.
It
has
been
pavement
and
so
removing
that
would
eliminate
all
of
those
parking
spaces.
J
D
J
D
Not
seen
a
plan
with
vines
in
that
area,
that
is
something
new
being
presented
tonight.
The
graduates
26
feet.
Why
so
they
could
narrow
up
the
garage
to
provide.
You
know
a
foot
to
allow
vines
to
grow
that
would
ultra
obviously
the
design
of
that,
but
it
isn't,
as
they
said,
of
standard
garage,
and
so
that
would
be
one
I
can't
tell
from
there
from
this.
Drawing
here,
I
would
need
to
look
at
the
survey.
D
A
A
C
C
C
N
A
A
K
A
K
K
A
All
right,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
I,
don't
see
the
site
plan
review
with
some
changes
to
the
conditions
and
I'll
try
to
recap
those.
So
we
have
a
change
to
condition.
One
changing
the
date
from
2017
to
2019,
Commission
condition.
Three
has
been
removed,
condition
five
has
been
modified
so
that
the
staff
will
or
the
applicant
will
work
with
staff
to
manage
storm
water
coming
off
of
the
garage
on
where
and
silent
on
the
pitch
of
the
roof
item.
A
Six
is
modified
to
require
ornamental
grasses
on
the
site,
roughly
in
the
equivalent
of
twenty-eight,
shrubs
and
then
item
eight
is
modified
to
remove
the
words
thornless
honeylocust
and
simply
state
two
additional
trees.
Commissioner
crimes-
oh
did
I
restate
you
did
a
great
job.
Actually,
okay,
thank
you.
Is
there
any
further
discussion
on
this
motion.
A
I
should
probably
give
the
applicant
an
opportunity
to
respond.
Are
there
any
continued
concerns
or
thoughts
on
that
I
I
will
say
on
the
trash
enclosure
issue.
You
know
whether
you
share
trash
with
an
adjacent
building.
That's
fine!
Although
I
I
do
think
it's
pretty
clear
that
the
code
requires.
You
can't
simply
have
can
sitting
outside
so
in
one
way
or
another,
any
trash
containers
would
need
to
be
screened,
but
I
think
we
address
most
of
the
rest
of
your
concerns.
I
So
thanks
I
think
we
can
live
with
that
stuff
and
I.
Think
the
main
thing
about
the
screen
is
we
don't
want
to
be
pushed
into
something?
That's
you
know
not
the
intent
of
the
of
what's
you
know,
being
asked
for
so
I
think
if
we
can
work
with
staff
with
the
screening
just
like
we
were
doing
with
the
guttering
and/or,
the
drainage
off
of
the
garage
roof.
That
would
be
great.
A
A
And
that
motion
carries.
That
concludes
our
discussion
on
item
three.
The
next
item
for
discussion
is
item
for
Rex
26
staff
is
mr.
Hanauer
and
I
know.
We
have
a
least
a
couple
people
here
who
wanted
to
be
on
the
item
to
maybe
we
could
have
just
a
brief
presentation
that
appears
that
and
we
well,
we
received
a
revised
memo.
It
looks
like
there
are
some
concerns
or
outstanding
issues
around
that
traffic
circulation
as
well.
So
if
we
could
address
those
that'd
be
great
nope.
O
Chairman
of
Commissioners,
so
the
Rex
26
development
at
the
southeast
corner
of
Glendale
and
26,
was
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission
in
December
2016.
The
applicant
approached
staff
in
about
February
to
mention
some
changes
that
they'd
like
to
make
to
the
project.
There's
a
lot
of
similarities
between
this
project
and
the
previous
one.
But
a
number
of
the
differences
were
not
able
to
be
approved.
Administrative
Lea.
O
O
Based
upon
how
we
calculate
and
analyze
the
first
floor,
they
are
bringing
the
first
floor
down
from
twenty
three
to
twenty
feet,
so
we
recognize
that
the
number
of
floors
going
up
from
four
to
five,
but
the
number
of
storeys
we
saw
this
as
same
also
the
overall
height
is
staying
with
that
maximum
height
is
staying
at
62
feet.
I
mentioned
the
reduction
in
height
of
the
first
floor,
and
each
of
the
upper
floors
is
being
reduced
in
height
by
approximately
a
foot.
Number
units
has
increased
in
same
with
the
floor
area.
O
Just
note,
some
of
the
design
changes,
reduction
height
at
first
floor
from
pre
feet,
I
mentioned
that,
but
also
recessing
the
upper
floors,
and
it
shows
that
first
floor
a
greater
projection
on
lyndale
trying
to
help
the
building
relate
more
to
the
neighborhood
commercial
buildings
at
the
other
intersections
and
then
lighting
within
the
soffit
that
what
accompany
the
building
lighting
that's
required
by
the
PIO
district
and
almost
done
here.
But
they
are
I
noted
this
in
the
application,
but
moving
the
elevator
core
to
an
internal
portion
of
the
site.
O
Uppers
or
the
approved
lower
is
what
is
proposed
by
moving
the
co
elevator
shaft
to
the
inside.
It
frees
up
and
allows
space
to
have
windows
within
that
portion
of
the
building
along
lyndale,
and
then
the
applicant
did
change
their
mechanical
equipment
from
that
magic
pack
system
to
an
internal
system.
So
you
didn't
have
those
grilles
on
the
outside
of
the
building.
O
Now
the
big
one
of
the
big
things
was
the
maneuvering
through
the
site
and
in
summering
it
some
are
getting
too
big.
Just
change
of
that
of
the
ingress
egress
haven't
vehicles
turned
into
the
site
and
out
was
a
tall
vehicle.
Traffic
now
would
enter
an
exit
on
Lyndale
Avenue.
Previously,
cars
would
enter
on
lyndale
and
exit
on
26,
but
they
added
a
half
load
of
underground
parking.
O
There's
one
less
curb
cut
with
this
proposal
that
curb
cut
on
20
on
lyndale
has
increased
in
length
from
about
20
to
29
feet,
but
we've
audited
the
conditions
of
approval
in
a
minute
that
we're
recommending
delivery
trucks.
The
number
would
stay
the
same,
but
instead
of
entering
lyndale
and
exiting
226,
they
would
enter
from
the.
Let
me
said
it
again:
prior
it
was
entering
on
through
the
alley
and
exiting
on
20
onto
lyndale,
that's
delivery,
trucks,
and
now
they
would
enter
on
lyndale
and
exit
through
the
alley.
O
O
Okay,
so
I
will
come
back
to
that
in
a
minute,
but
the
same
number
of
delivery
trucks
I'll
make
sure
you
have
the
correct
information
in
a
second.
Let
me
look
at
my
notes,
but
so
Public
Works
did
have
concerns
with
the
with
the
proposal
of
of
having
all
the
vehicle
traffic
enter
and
exit
on
Linden
Avenue,
and
one
of
the
big
things
was
that
vehicles
would
try
to
take
a
left
turn
onto
Lyndale
Avenue
in
that
Inn
and
the
poster
child
is
the
wedge.
O
So
situations
and
complaints
that
have
been
taking
place,
but
the
applicant
with
with
the
conditions
of
approval
of
staff's,
recommending
we're
looking
at
a
real-time
parking
counter.
So
people
aren't
trying
to
enter
the
parking
ramp
and
exit
order.
Wanting
a
real-time
transit
screen
to
support
transit
and
having
people
take
mass
transit.
A
right
turn
only
sign
that
be
well
posted,
so
BA,
so
vehicles
would
only
not
trying
to
go
into
traffic.
O
That
would
cause
greater
delays
and
then
a
plant
having
a
median
that
would
separate
the
the
truck
access
and
the
vehicle
access,
so
kind
of
reducing
the
size
of
that
curb
cut.
The
timing
of
this
is
that
public
works
provided
those
comments.
We
got
those
comments.
We've
been
working
with
them
since
February,
but
we
had
that
official
review
last
week,
so
it's
a
little
later
than
we'd
like
to
see,
but
the
applicant
will
definitely
have
to
gain
approval
from
the
public
from
public
works
department
for
this
configuration
to
work.
O
O
It
is
recommended
to
have
a
dedicated
bike
lane
on
the
north
side
of
26th,
Street,
okay
and
then
in
reviewing
exterior
building
materials.
The
whatnot
stayed
the
same,
is
the
building
would
have
these
quick
boxes
closest
to
Lyndale
Avenue
and
then
a
kind
of
an
almost
in
accent
material
that
states
the
champagne
vertical
metal
signing.
But
what
has
changed
is
in
the
previous
proposal.
Floors
2
through
4
had
a
architectural
metal
shingle
that
was
about
40%
of
the
xperia
LAN
that
west
and
east
elevation.
O
The
applicant
is
now
proposing
to
have
a
vertical
metal
panel
that
would
be
on
floors,
2
through
4
and
then
a
metal
shingle.
On
the
upper
floor,
we
counted
the
number
of
materials
each.
They
had
three
different
types
of
metal,
Sheng,
a
metal
material,
and
we
counted
each
of
the
counting
each
of
those
as
a
separate
material.
We
saw
them
having
too
many
materials,
so
we
recommended
a
condition
of
approval
that
only
three
materials
be
allowed
on
one
elevation:
that's
that's
part
of
our
guide
to
experiment,
aerials
and.
O
Just
you
see
the
recommended
conditions
of
approval,
I
think
I
try
to
touch
on
the
main
ones
that
often
want
boilerplate
and
saw
the
in
the
public
comments
that,
like
I
mentioned,
there's
two
letters.
One
is
not
in
support
of
the
project.
The
other
from
a
neighboring
business
owner
common
roots
was
encouraging.
The
Commission
amongst
among
a
few
things,
was
to
consider
additional
bike
parking
and
not
having
canopy
trees.
Looking
at
looking
at
canopy
trees,
rather
than
the
owner
of
ornamental
trees
at
the
applicants
proposing
in
the
public
right-of-way.
J
O
I'm
sure
the
pker
is
a
good
point,
and
if
that
with
this-
and
there
was
some
of
the
other
vendors
that
show
this
in
closer
detail,
if
you
felt
that
this
would
help
reduce
the
speed
the
cars
would
try
to
come
in,
but
would
like
a
lower
height,
that
could
be
something
that
you
could
definitely
definitely
add
as
a
condition
of
approval.
Well,
thank
you.
J
O
Fisher
Conger
they
didn't
provide.
They
like
like
us,
will
often
react
to
a
proposal
and
did
provide
specific
recommendations
on
what
would
make
this
support.
However
supportable,
but
in
reviewing
the
previous
proposal,
the
one
that
you
had
in
2016,
there
might
have
been
some
reservations.
As
noted
on
page
two
and
three
in
the
PDR
report
there-
and
you
can
see
the
previous
PDF
report
in
the
report
in
here,
but
they
they
would
have
signed
off
on
a
previous
proposal
by
having
vehicles
entered
lyndale
and
exit
on
the
26th
Street.
A
All
right
are
there
any
further
questions
of
staff
and
Aaron,
just
just
to
clarify
your
recommendation
is
still
to
approve,
with
with
all
of
the
conditions
that
were
originally
listed
because
of
the
applicant
would
have
to
get
that
sign-off
from
Public
Works
anyway,
we
would
not
need
to
modify
our
conditions
if
we
were
to
go
with
the
staff
recommendation.
Correct.
O
A
O
P
Just
just
clarification
on
the
so
we've
got
signs
directing
traffic
exiting
the
project,
so
only
took
a
right
turn
right,
but
there
is
nothing
precluding
a
southbound
driver
on
Lyndell
taking
a
left
turn
across
traffic
right,
so
we're
cutting
our
cross
traffic
potentially
in
half.
He
had
not
totally
two.
O
O
C
A
Okay,
are
there
any
further
questions
of
hearing?
None
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
on
this
item,
I'd
like
to
ask
the
applicant
to
speak
first
and
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record,
and
perhaps
you
could
just
address
your
rationale
for
having
the
traffic
circulation
on
your
proposal
through.
K
K
This
was
the
old
site
plan,
and
what
you
have
here
is
this
is
the
alley
back
here.
Traffic
was
the
trucks,
are
supposed
to
turn
in
off
of
LenDale
and
come
through
a
12
foot
wide
opening
into
the
garage
into
a
garage
area,
and
that
assumes
that
a
truck
driver
can
make
it
through
that
needle
it's
like
threading,
a
needle.
K
Every
time
you
drive
a
truck
into
that
space,
then
they
were
supposed
to
come
through
the
truck
area
and
maneuver
back
into
a
loading
dock
which
would
likely
required
them
to
come
over
the
alley
in
order
to
make
that
transition
and
back
properly
into
the
loading
dock.
What
that
also
in
this
current
is
foreigner
design.
It
also
had
all
of
the
trash
in
other
areas
for
the
building,
including
the
residential
building,
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
truck.
So
everything
had
to
come
across
to
get
to
the
trash
room.
K
If
you
had
cardboard
or
other
things,
so
we
were,
we
were
creating
a
safety
factor
in
our
mind,
with
truck
with
people
migrating
across
the
truck
area,
to
bring
things
that
don't
go
down
a
crashing
into
that
trash
area
and
then,
in
this
plan,
the
entrance
to
the
old
lower
garage
was
here
on
20
and
on
lyndale.
Excuse
me,
and,
as
Aaron
said
a
moment
ago,
the
exit
was
out
on
26.
K
We
reviewed
that
with
our
traffic
consultants
and
they
universally
said.
This
is
an
unsafe
condition
to
have
an
exit
bound
here
on
26
Cole
mingling,
with
a
curb
cut,
both
directions
for
an
alley,
and
they
said
that
they
would
not
recommend
that
from
a
safety
standpoint
as
well.
And
so
then
we
modified
that
to.
K
Furthermore,
there's
an
elevational
difficulty
here
this
alley
here
at
the
end
of
the
building
is
almost
5
feet
higher
than
the
alley
of
in
the
street
elevation,
and
so
we're
working
actually
counterproductive
to
how
a
truck
would
work
or
unload,
and
so
by
doing
it.
This
way.
We
also
underneath
this
we
back
the
foundation
up.
K
So
how
this
came
about
is
that
was
really
our
discussion
to
start
this
dialogue
and
when
we
met
with
city
staff
and
ultimately
Wisconsin
and
the
vendor,
they
were
supportive
of
that
change
and
actually,
if
we
had
left
it
at
that,
we
would
have
been
able
to
do
that
on
an
administrative
approval.
But
as
we
further
met
with
them,
they
indicated
that
there
were
other
concerns
about
the
project
such
as
the
height
of
the
first
floor
and
some
of
the
elevations
along
lyndale.
K
And
so
we
decided
that
we
would
take
this
opportunity
to
reinvent
other
parts
of
the
building
as
well.
And
so
that's
why
we
came
back
before
you
today
in
good
faith,
to
try
to
address
some
of
the
other
concerns
that
were
lingering
from
the
previous
approval.
So
the
traffic
flow
was
always
such
that
the
trucks
were
going
to
enter
from
lyndale
originally,
as
with
any
vehicles
enter
from
lyndale
to
your
question,
commissioner
Rockwell
and
then
depart
on
both
of
them
departing
26.
The
other
aspect
of
that
that
we
felt
was
problematic.
K
Plus,
hopefully,
you
can
read
this
this
lower
part
here
is
the
original
plan,
and
so,
as
that
truck
came
in
and
it
faced
towards
the
alley.
This
is
not
necessarily
representative
the
size
of
the
potential
truck
that
could
be
sitting
in
here.
That
truck
is
running
and
that
running
tab
is
in
close
proximity
to
our
neighbors
across
the
alley,
and
we
felt
that
was
a
problematic
and
could
be
subject
to
other
complaints.
K
Plus,
you
can
see
the
slope
of
this
truck
in
order
to
feed
us
of
the
grade
change
in
order
for
the
truck
to
function
here,
this
truck
has
to
sit
at
an
angle
up
against
the
loading
dock.
Well,
that's
a
completely
unsafe
condition
and
was
objected
to
by
our
by
our
retailers
about
how
to
unload
safely
a
semi
or
a
trailer
trying
to
unload
things
with
a
pallet,
checker
or
wheelie
or
other
things
to
do
that,
and
so
by
reversing
the
traffic
flow
on
the
truck
side.
K
So
we
felt
that
this
was
a
much
safer
condition
and
we
were
able
to
make
that
modification,
and
while
we
were
doing
that,
we
decided
it
was
best
to
try
to
address
these
other
concerns
as
well,
and
that
is
also
consistent
with
your
own
asourian
code.
This
site
is
guided
for
mixed
mixed
use,
its
future
guidance
misuse.
Your
your
zoning
code
requires
and
a
mixed
use
that
truck
traffic.
K
We
not
used
the
public
right
away
in
order
to
maneuver,
so
we've
been
able
to
now
accomplish
that
where
we
felt
before
that
was
subject
to
the
debate.
Furthermore,
there's
no
equal
in
section
541
I'll
throw
it
up
here.
You
can
read
it
in
541.
It
says
the
consolidation
of
perc
that
shall
be
encouraged,
and
nuclear
prep
should
be
discouraged
whenever
appropriate,
considering
safe
traffic
flow.
The
objectives
of
this
ordinance
and
access
points
needed
for
the
proper
functioning
of
the
youth.
K
So
we
dispelled
that
the
consolidation
of
this
curve
gets
on
on
lyndale,
which
is
200,
and
those
pert
cuts
are
275
feet
from
the
intersection
versus
the
exit.
Formally
approved.
Exit
from
the
site
on
to
26
is
a
hundred
feet
from
the
intersection,
so
we
felt
this
was
a
much
safer
condition.
We
are
totally
fine
with
the
right
out
only
language,
and
we
would
instruct
our
tenants
to
make
certain
that
they're
truck
drivers
comply
with
that.
K
We
think
that's
right
and
we're
totally
aware
that
there
could
be
a
future
median
down
the
middle
as
well,
and
we're
fine
with
that.
If
that
happens,
in
fact,
we
would
encourage
that
to
happen
sooner
versus
later.
In
order
to
facilitate
this,
though,
so
we
think
this
is
a
much
safer
thing.
We
think
what
this
really
boils
down
to
us.
Some
of
this
information
got
to
public
works
late.
They
really
haven't
had
an
opportunity
to
vet
this
and
look
at
this
thoroughly.
K
K
The
proposal,
but
the
new
one
will
be
like
a
new
one,
okay,
something
that
shows
some
of
the
more
line
work
where
the
exiting
car
has
to
neck
down
to
meet.
The
curb
cut.
Do
I,
hear
that
do
I
have
it,
and
why
are
getting
that?
My
global
question
is,
it
seems
like
we're
at
an
impasse
of
Public
Works
and
until
we
have
resolution,
it's
really
hard
for
us
to
do
much
here.
K
Q
R
K
Delivered
we
were
unaware
that
the
information
was
delivered
to
them
later
than
normal
in
the
process,
and
we
were
awaiting
the
opportunity
to
meet
with
them
and
we
were
actually
the
ones
that
helped
orchestrate
the
information
getting
to
them.
And
there
was
not
time
prior
to
this
to
have
that
meeting.
Commissioner
Brown,
sir,
but
what
we
won't
plan
on
having
all.
E
K
K
Do
you
forced
to
turn
left
slightly?
What
is
that
element
there
you're
an
exiting
car
coming
out
through
here
and
boom?
It's
right
in
here
yeah!
That's
just
this:
a
narrowing
of
the
sidewalk
in
the
curve
at
the
street,
so
the
Congress
forced
if
the
car
was
forced
it
based
on
trying
to
comply
with
your
curve,
desires.
Okay,
the
car
is
forced
to
go
left
before
it
goes
right.
That's
correct
that
and
that's
your
requirement.
K
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
metal
panels
and
what?
What
actually
is
the
proposal
but
we're
an
agreement
with
staff
that
will
consolidate
the
middle
panel
sound
but
I'm,
our
substitute
more
so
civil?
What
the
actual
vertical
panel
is
and
what
the
shingle
is,
that
you're
proposing
to
adjuster
we're.
T
Looking
at
two
options,
one
is
a
corrugated
metal,
pamphlet,
I'm,
sorry,
I'm
Patrick
thick
to
have
them
with
different
architects.
One
of
the
part
of
the
design
team
there
so
are
two
metal
panel
options
that
we
had
on
your
work,
corrugated
metal
panel
from
two
to
three
or
I'm.
Sorry,
two
to
four,
with
the
metal
sheet
style
on
level
5.
So
right
now
we're
looking
at
consolidate
to
one
of
those
two
options.
So
both
of
them
are
a
punched
panel.
They'll
have
some
kind
of
insulation
behind
them
or
within
the
wall.
If
you're
looking.
C
A
K
Here
and
hopefully,
maybe
here
again
in
a
few
weeks,
can
you
talk
about
your
foundation
system
and
how
that's
installed?
It's
a
driven
steel
foundation
on
three
other
sides,
a
normal
spread
footing
foundation
on
the
south
end,
because
that's
now,
basically
a
single-story
element
and
the
the
internal
workings
will
be
a
precast
system
and
that's
a
pile
driven
steel
piled
higher.
What
are
your
plans,
Rock
tool,
steel,
or
what
are
your
plans
for
a
pre
conduction
survey,
so
neighboring
problem
monitor
all
of
that
and
we'll
have
sound
and
vibration
monitors
throughout
construction.
K
We
do
pre-production
surveys
as
well.
Yes,
will
you
share
that
those
results
with
the
city
if
we
should
ask
but
yeah
PW?
Thank
you
real
clock
on
the
trees
in
the
right-of-way
wide
ornamental
versus
canopy
I.
Did
it
take
your
pick?
Oh
yeah
I,
just
a
man
about
you,
some
people
like
red
some
people,
like
blue,
we're
not
going
to
fight
over
whether
it's
an
ornamental
or
became
3G
and
on
the
bicycle
parking,
where
actually
I
think
almost
double
the
required
bicycle
parking.
K
A
U
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
bobby
doll.
I
am
co-owner
of
2624
inland,
a
lab
result
which
is
directly
across
the
street
from
where
this
apartment
complex
will
be
built.
I
have
a
few
concerns
about
the
bike
entering
the
facility
with
the
trucks
there,
supposedly
going
to
be
a
bike
lane
proposed
and
26th
Avenue.
U
So
as
far
as
this
drawing
shows,
it
shows
the
drop
how
the
trucks
will
have
to
veer
out
from
inside
lane
into
the
outside
lane.
My
concern
is
that
they're
going
to
be
veering
into
bike
lanes,
and
my
also
the
other
concern
I
have-
is
that
there's
a
certain
amount
of
radius
that
you
have
to
have
for
a
truck
to
go
around
I'm,
not
sure
exactly
what
that?
Yes,
but
that
is
one
of
my
other
concerns.
U
The
other
thing
was
the
flow
of
this
I
understand
he
what
he
was
talking
about
the
trucks
coming
in
and
how
going
through
it
he
said.
Was
it
eight
foot
tunnel,
as
opposed
to
now
a
20
foot,
but
before
when
the
traffic
the
trucks
would
come
in
when
they
come
into
Lindo
and
you'd
end
up
getting
this
kind
of
nice?
Little
loop
that
was
happening,
which
means
less
we
aren't
here
on
the
road.
Now,
what
happens
is
the
traffic?
The
trucks
will
be
coming
from
26?
How
did
they
get
there?
U
U
Lyndell
going
up
Franklin
and
then
getting
on
the
one
way,
which
is
really
more
residential,
then
turning
on
26
the
whole
thing
about
the
process,
the
more
trust
that
you
have,
the
more
wear
and
tear
you
have
on
your
streets.
I
understand
that
at
this
point
this
is
going
to
be
an
Aldi
I
have
no
idea
that
will
stay
or
not
might
change
to
something
else
which
brings
up
the
another
point
of
the
setbacks
that
they
have.
U
They
wanted.
My
understanding
is
they
want
to
make
the
setbacks
left
to
the
street.
So
if
you
do
that,
give
you
an
example:
we
live
across
from
French
metal,
French
metal
has
their
sidewalk
cafes
a
place
to
walk,
and
then
they
have
those
large
decorative
things
where
they
put
plants
and
stuff.
The
area
to
watch
is
both
large
enough
for
one
person
it's
difficult
with
a
wheelchair.
U
So
if
you
put
that
type
of
setback
in,
if,
if
all
these
doesn't
exist
there
anymore,
it
turns
into
a
restaurant
or
coffee
shop.
We
need
a
coffee
shop,
there's
a
coffee
shop
in
every
corner.
We
don't
have
one,
so
we
need
one.
So
when
you
have
no,
you
put
the
streets
up,
the
cafe
CDs,
there
won't
be
enough
room
for
people
to
walk
around
I
will.
U
U
One
of
them
is
what
will
happen
to
our
aging
water,
sewer
and
gas
lines
along
Lyndale
Avenue,
and
will
this
construction
cause
if
it
causes
anything
to
break
who's
going
to
have
to
pay
for
the
repairs?
Is
master
properties
going
to
pay
anything
at
all
and
if
they
are,
will
it
be
held
in
escrow
until
the
construction
is
done
so
that
there
is
money
there
in
case
it's
needed?
U
U
They
could
put
in
more
than
a
couple
of
shrubs.
They
could
keep
our
whole
area
cooler.
All
you
need
to
do
is
lose
one
big
tree
in
it,
and
the
temperature
rises
10
to
20
degrees.
Just
one
canopy
tree,
our
Forestry
Department
is
asking
people
to
plant
trees
in
their
yards,
and
then
we
are
telling
these
people
with
money
who
are
putting
construction,
that
they
don't
have
to
and
I
think
that
that
is
like
totally
wrong
and
all
I'm
getting
obsessed
I
have
I
mean
I
really
do
think.
U
And
also
I
have
a
little
funny
thing
about
the
drawings
that
that
these
people
have
been
showing
it
and
in
one
of
them,
which
shows
the
proposed
building
from
the
26th
Avenue
site.
Our
building,
which
is
a
two-story
building
on
the
opposite
side
of
Lindale,
looks
like
it
is
nearly
as
tall
as
a
six
foot.
Five
five
to
six
story
building
wall
here,
I,
don't
think,
that's
true,
a
one-family
home
across
the
alley,
which
is
probably
two-story.
Maybe
three.
U
Are
you
going
to
make
them
put
in
at
least
10
to
20%
of
the
units
to
help
get
rid
of
homelessness
so
that
people
can
afford
to
live
somewhere?
Because
a
lot
of
people
who
are
homeless
are
working
two
or
three
jobs?
They're,
not
just
loafers
they're,
not
just
drunk
out
on
the
street.
They
need
places
to
that.
They
can
afford
to
live.
E
U
A
C
A
R
U
Live
at
26,
24
Lindale
in
the
discussions
on
the
traffic
you,
nobody
has
talked
about
the
fact
that
exactly
across
Lindale
from
where
the
new
entrances
will
be,
you
have
the
French
Meadows
parking
lot,
which
currently
causes
backup
today,
as
people
are
coming
from
the
South
heading
north
and
trying
to
turn
into
the
park.
Not
so
how
is
this
going
to
work
if
you're
going
to
have
Sam
trying
to
get
into
French
meadow
and
people
exiting
or
else
trying
to
get
into
the
Rex
26?
U
M
A
Right,
thank
you
and
is
there?
Anyone
else
would
like
to
speak
on
this
item.
Seeing
no
one
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
constraints.
We
have
several
applications
before
us
six
to
be
exact.
Would
someone
like
to
start
off
the
discussion
with
emotion
or
are
there
any
further
questions
of
Commissioner.
C
V
Sorry
that
that
being
someone
that
drives
down
that
part
of
lyndale
daily,
sometimes
several
times
currently
most
of
the
day,
the
traffic
because
of
that
left
one
way
straight
26
and
the
left
lane
is
backed
up
on
this
all
the
way
to
Lake
Street.
And
so
you
have
to
go
around
so
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
what
public
works
like.
How
will
what
will
working
with
public
works?
V
How
will
that
resolved
the
fact
that
that's
going
to
be
with
French
meadow
there
with
the
one
way
at
common
roots,
with
that
being
a
major
left
turn
until
you
get
to
the
highway
or
until
you
get
to
Franklin?
How
will
they
resolve
that
I
mean
we
say:
okay,
go
work
with
Public
Works
and
come
back
or
not
come
back.
Just
I'm
I
really
like
to
understand
how
they've
been
resolve
it,
because
it
really
is
bad,
very,
very
bad
right
now
so
I'm
just
trying
to
wrap
my
head
around
what
that
will
look
like
yeah.
Q
We
want
to
make
sure
it
doesn't
get
substantially
worse.
Mr.
Hanna
are
mentioned
the
situation
at
the
web
to
co-op,
which
does
cause
some
traffic
concerns,
and
but
my
understanding
is
that
part
of
that
does
stem
from
the
number
of
people
that
are,
as
mr.
Rockwell
alluded
to
heading
southbound
and
trying
to
turn
left
into
into
the
parking
lot.
So
I
think
that
is
probably
the
biggest
concern
that
Public
Works
will
try
to
address.
V
Q
C
V
Q
W
Bringing
this
up
when
we
talked
about
this
last
year
and
I,
don't
know
that
we
can
necessarily
consider
exactly
that.
It
is
an
Aldi
when
we're
talking
about
approving
the
site
plan
here,
but
I
think
we're
all
familiar
with
the
wedge
parking
lot.
I
went
to
the
wedge
a
couple
days
ago
and
it's
not
a
great
situation
on
one
day
with
people
turning
in
and
out
of
that
onto
Lindale,
but
the
wedge
is
really
like
a
regional
destination
and
I
anticipate.
W
This
particular
aldea
26
of
lyndale
is
going
to
have
a
lot
less
car
traffic
coming
to
it,
I
mean
if
you
are
really
committed
to
drive
into
all.
These
are
certainly
easier,
all
these
to
get
to
if
you're
driving
a
car
I
imagine.
This
is
going
to
be
a
lot
of
walk-up
business
from
Lowry,
Hill,
east
and
Whittier,
and
if
it
does
become
that
much
of
a
chore
to
drive
your
car
for
blocks,
you
might
either
walk
or
just
drive
to
another
Aldi,
and
so
I
mean
it
seemed
like
a
lot
of
the
concern.
W
Public
Works
had
was
the
the
car
access
rather
than
the
truck
access.
I.
Think
that
I
was
kind
of
mr.
Henner
was
getting
at
and
then
I
guess.
I
did
kind
of
have
a
question
for
staff.
When
we're
thinking
about
the
wedge,
you
know
they
often
have
a
cop
out
there
directing
traffic.
Is
that
something
they
just
do
it
at
the
goodness
of
their
heart,
or
did
we
did
someone
make
them?
Do
that?
That's
something
we
could
condition
potentially
for
the
site
if
it's
needed.
O
W
Q
Commissioners,
I
don't
know
that
I
have
anything
else
to
add
to
what
mr.
Hanover
said.
If
you
go
down
that
path,
maybe
it's
more
of
a
suggestion.
The
public
works
consider
implementing
that
rather
than
a
mandate,
but
if
the,
if
it
comes
down
to
that's,
really
only
the
oh,
no
mitigating
circumstance,
that
would
make
this
the
only
way
that
would
be
acceptable
and
certainly
that
it
could
be
something
you
would
consider
requiring
I
know.
W
The
city
does
require
not
exactly
require,
but
they'll
put
conditions
on
a
business
license
that
you
have
to
have
off-duty
police
officers,
not
necessarily
for
traffic
reasons,
but
for
others
and
so
I.
Don't
think
that
would
be
entirely
outside
of
our
our
scope,
but
it
is
a
land
use
application
which
is
a
little
bit
different,
so
just
some
thoughts
about
it.
Mr.
B
This
is
more
of
a
comment
for
staff
than
a
question,
specifically
in
your
ongoing
conversations
with
public
work.
You
know,
I,
think
that
you
need
to
really
think
about
the
interface
of
where
the
automobiles
that
are
exiting
sort
of
interact
with
the
public
realm,
because
it's
which
I
think
with
the
grade
there
and
the
fact
that
the
public
realm
is
fairly
wide,
that
there's
sort
of
a
gray
area.
B
You
know
car
is
probably
going
to
pull
further
out
they're,
probably
going
to
pull
over
the
sidewalk
to
kind
of
get
a
view
to,
hopefully
just
turn
right,
not
turn
left,
but
so
there
might
be
some
things
that
Public
Works
might
want
to
think
about,
as
it
relates
to
sort
of
that
transition.
So
whether
it's
increased
scoring
on
the
on
the
sidewalk
part,
the
pedestrian
realm
part
or
not.
That
I
want
to
add
any
visual
or
noise
clutter,
but
you
know
auditory
or
signs
that
kind
of
announce
it.
You
know,
there's
a
car
pulling
out.
C
L
Colleagues
concerned
f9
about
the
chunk
of
thing
between
trucks
and
cars.
Oh
and
since
it's
our
insistence,
but
that
be
there,
I
would
hope
to
empower
staff
to
design
something
that
is
not
going
to
endanger
small
children
or
wagons
or
whatever
couldn't
be
seen
to
either
transparent
or
lower
or
just,
and
it
you're
perfectly
capable
of
negotiating
that
without
us.
Changing
number
nine,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
was
mentioned.
L
K
C
W
O
C
P
C
K
A
O
A
Any
further
discussion,
I
might
just
add,
I,
think
you
know
and
I
hope
the
applicant
understands
as
well.
I
think,
particularly
since
there
is
a
lot
of
interest
in
traffic
issues
associated
with
this
project.
It
would
be
good
before
we
do
make
a
final
decision
to
just
can't
have
that
finality
from
public
works
as
well,
that
we
aren't
going
to
see
substantial
changes
and
I
think
gives
everyone
a
little
bit
higher
of
a
comfort
level
with
it.
So
there
is
no
further
discussion.
We
have
a
motion
and
second
clerk.
Please
call
the
roll.
P
C
A
And
that
motion
carries.
That
concludes
our
discussion,
at
least
for
today,
on
item
for
our
next
item
for
discussion
is
item
5
Hiawatha
collegiate
high
school
and
staff
is
Miss,
Dvorak
I
know
there
are
a
few
people
here
and
we
got
some
comments
by
email
as
well.
So
maybe
you
want
to
hit
some
of
the
highlights
of
this
pressure.
D
I
was
no
project
a
school
project
at
35,
30
East,
28th
Street.
There
are
a
number
of
applications
Victoria
this
evening
conditional
use
permit
to
allow
the
public
or
the
school
excuse
me
and
there's
a
high
school.
The
conditional
use
permit
to
increase
the
height
of
the
four
light
poles
surrounding
the
soccer
field,
up
to
sixty
feet,
a
variant
of
the
maximum
Sun
types
not
required
quarter;
side
yard
in
north
interior
side
yards
from
6
to
20
feet
to
Metis
for
the
fence.
D
Or
than
the
netting
system,
if
you
will
there's
a
variance
of
the
corner
side,
yards
and
athletic
field
from
12
feet
down
to
2
feet,
and
that
is
along
East,
28th
Street.
That
is
for
the
goal
itself
and
then
also
for
that
net.
A
variance
of
the
north
interior
side
yard
from
9
feet
down
to
0
and
again
that's
for
the
goal
and
also
for
that
net
I'm,
a
variance,
reduce
the
rear
yard
setback
and
that
is
along
with
East.
D
Excuse
me,
the
West
property
line
from
9
feet
down
to
7,
and
that
is
for
the
scoreboard,
also
highlighted
and
then
cite
hunter
view
to
allow
the
partial
demolition
of
the
existing
building
and
approximately
24,000
square
foot
addition.
Staff
is
recommending
approval
of
all
applications
and
before
you
tonight
subject
to
conditions
of
approval.
D
So
there
may
be
schools
on
question
in
the
summer,
but
maybe
the
soccer
field
would
be
used
so
in
the
future,
and
it
could
be
more
than
just
for
school,
but
when
it's
not
in
when
we
are
asking
that
it
be
taken
down
when
not
in
use
for
the
site
plan
review,
there
are
some
items
that
need
alternative
compliance.
One
is
the
building
placement
along
20
streets.
We
are
recommending
approval
of
that.
They
have
some
blank
walls
and
some
window
issues
of
the
North
elevation.
D
They
do
have
high
rated
walls,
so
they
cannot
have
openings.
So
we
are
recommending
that
you
grant
alternative
compliance
for
those.
They
need
alternative
compliance
to
the
number
of
trees
on
the
site.
They
do
meet
the
number
of
trees.
When
you
combine
the
number
of
evergreen
trees
and
the
number
of
canopy
trees
serve,
we
are
recommending
alternative
compliance
for
that.
The
evergreen
trees
does
provide
seasonal
interest
when
all
of
the
canopy
trees
with
drop
low
leaves.
So
we
feel
that
that
is
a
good
trade-off
for
the
shrubs.
D
We
are
adding
the
condition
of
approval
similar
to
the
last
item
that
I
have
presented
for
you
tonight.
They
are
proposing
a
number
of
perennials,
including
ornamental
grasses.
In
addition
to
those
are
those
progresses,
we
are
recommending
that
they
meet
half
of
the
shrub
requirements,
so
146
shrubs.
So
that
is
in
the
added
condition
of
approval
to
the
site
interview
and
then
we.
D
Alternative
compliance
for
the
parking
lot
screening
on
the
north
property
line,
the
Midtown
Greenway
is
adjacent
to
the
site.
It
is
higher
than
and
some
screening
would
not
screen
it
from
the
trails.
Given
the
elevation
change
from
the
mid
tendering
way
down
to
where
the
parking
lot
would
sit,
and
so
those
are
the
conditions
of
approval
and
the
applications
that
I
can
walk
through
any
items
at
the
slides
of
the
elevations.
If
you
would
like
me
to
or
I
can
I
conclude
and
stand
for
questions
I
think.
V
So
we've
had
to
do
that
for
other
form.
Analysis
of
the
schools
like
10
o'clock
at
night,
and
it's
a
firm,
stop
and
I
think
that's
other
soccer
fields
in
the
state
that
have
not
done
that
people
are
playing
till
11:00
at
night,
I
mean
it
really
goes
late
and
just
respectfully
the
Greenway,
but
also
there's
homes
right.
There.
I
have
to
have
a
hard
stop
or
it
will
not
happen.
We
have
to
end
games,
I,
don't
care
if
it's
double
overtime,
we
have
to
stop
and
turn
the
lights
out
so
I'm.
V
Just
cognizant
of
that,
we
had
a
two-year
conversation
with
the
south
with
high
school
soccer
or
lights
that
went
up
on
the
field
and
it's
made
of
really
it's
made
a
positive
difference.
Otherwise
I'm
telling
you
we
would
not
have
turned
them
off
at
10:00
because
games
go
on
and
on.
So
thank
you
all
right.
L
D
D
There
are
a
number
of
things
that
need
to
be
investigated
to
determine
whether
or
not
the
well
water
can
be
used,
and
the
applicants
are
here
and
can
speak
to
the
environmental
health
department
for
the
city
and
the
state
would
get
involved
in
that
in
those
investigations
and
pending
the
outcome
of
that
was
determine
whether
or
not
the
water
could
be
used.
It's
my
understanding
that
the
applicant
would
be
using
the
well
water
if
it
is
usable
for
irrigation
purposes
on
the
site.
Thank.
C
A
X
Absolutely
I
was
the
planning
commission
president
Brown
commanders
as
well.
Thank
you
for
tuning
to
be
here
tonight.
My
name
is
Sean
alder
I'm,
the
chief
operating
officer
with
Hiawatha
Academy
I,
understand
tonight's
hearing
is
about
the
specifics
about
my
end.
User
application,
but
I
did
want
to
take
a
little
bit
of
time
to
talk
about
Hiawatha
and
the
school
that
we'll
be
going
into
the
site.
For
those
of
you
that
don't
know
us.
We
are
a
network
of
public
open,
enrollment
charter
schools
in
South
Minneapolis
dedicated
to
closing
the
opportunity
gap
that
exists.
X
We
serve
a
population
of
students
that
has
90
percent
of
whom
qualify
for
free
or
reduced
lunch,
98
percent,
of
whom
our
sense
of
color
and
85
percent
of
our
students
are
Latino
and
many
of
whom
received
English
language
learner
services
as
well.
We
were
founded
in
2007.
Our
schools
have
consistently
been
named
as
reward
in
celebration:
schools.
The
two
top
rankings
offered
by
the
Minnesota
Department
of
Education.
X
Our
mission
is
to
empower
every
single
one
of
our
scholars,
with
the
knowledge
character,
leadership,
skills
to
graduate
from
college
and
serve
the
common
good.
We
make
a
solemn
promise
to
every
child
that
walks
through
doors
and
every
parent
that
supports
both
students
and
that
we
as
I
lost
academies,
will
do
everything
that
we
can
in
our
power
to
help
them
on
that
path.
To
college
on
this
score,
we've
and
then
are
entering
into
our
11th
year.
We've
had
early
success.
X
Our
schools
frequently
are
listed
on
the
star
tribune,
x'
being
the
odds
list,
frequently
our
scholars
outperform
national
growth
standards
across
the
country
and
we're
proud
of
those
opportunities,
and
we
celebrate
them.
But
we
do
know
that
our
work
is
beyond
just
academic
test
scores
and-
and
is
not
just
what
brings
us
to
our
work.
X
We
believe
in
the
infinite
dignity
of
all
of
our
students
and,
if
the
dignity
of
all
children
in
our
city,
we
understand
that
we're
faced
with
an
unfortunate
reality
today
in
our
city,
where
a
child
zipcode
and
the
race
and
ethnicity
is
still
largely
predictive
of
educational
opportunities
that
we
have
to
society
offer
them.
The
data.
X
The
way
we
get
there,
a
few
components
of
our
program
includes
high
expectations
for
all
of
our
scholars
that
enter
our
schools.
Our
principals
act
as
instructional
leaders,
our
directors
of
operation
at
each
one
of
our
campuses,
serve
as
community
liaisons
and
facility
managers
that
support
our
neighborhood
engagement.
We
regularly
use
data
to
inform
our
instruction
and
to
support
our
students
in
an
individualized
way,
and
we
also
spend
more
time
in
our
schools.
X
That's
a
brief
overview
of
who
we
are
I
know
that
there
are
likely
questions
about
the
specifics
of
our
of
our
project,
but
I
do
want
to
speak
to
our
mission
and
our
students
and
our
scholars.
We,
you
know,
scholars
like
pilot
Bobo,
whose
mother
is
here
to
speak
tonight
and
the
work
that
Cynthia
does
with
her
and
Kyle
is
one
of
our
high
school
students
that
is
we'll
be
fortunate
to
attend.
High
Life
collegiate
high
school
at
this
site
should
be
approved
for
Tyler
the
opportunity.
X
The
question
isn't
whether
to
go
to
college
but
which
college
to
go
to.
It
won't
be
whether
she'll
have
a
data,
but
whether
she'll
be
prepared
to
navigate
jobs
for
the
future,
such
as
the
designer
for
our
program
is
seeking.
So
since
they
will
speak
to
that
specifically
a
little
later
on,
our
schools
will
open
our
high
school
will
open
in
the
fall
of
2018.
X
It
is
our
desire
to
continue
to
root
ourselves
in
our
local
neighborhoods
and
our
communities,
just
as
we
have
done
in
the
Moores
park
community
in
the
northrop
community
in
the
Kingfield
community,
and
we
take
great
pride
and
create
focus
and
our
partnership
and
outreach
to
community
members,
which
is
why
we're
asking
the
board
and
the
Commission
to
to
vote
YES
on
the
land
use
application.
The
timing
of
this
approval
is
critical.
X
That
has
certain
time
limits
on
that
financing,
as
well
as
I
mentioned,
we've
routed
ourselves
in
community
since
January
we've
engaged
with
the
Longfellow
Community
Council,
the
Seward
community
group,
Greenway
coalition,
Seward
redesigned
and
we're
fortunate
and
grateful
for
the
letters
of
support
that
have
been
sent
in
on
this
project
and
during
those
meetings,
we've
made
a
number
of
adaptations
to
our
site
to
manage
stormwater.
There's
a
lot
of
interest
about
the
field
and
the
opportunity
to
reduce
impervious
surface
area
on
the
site,
to
increase,
screen,
Greenham
enemy
and
then
books
using
amenities.
X
A
lot
of
Greenway
and
I
understand
that
we,
we
may
have
community
concerns
that
are
expressed
tonight
and
we
welcome
those
we
take
approach
of
active
engagement,
transparent
communication,
accessible
listening
and
adaptation
when
it
ever
possible
that
we
can
do
that.
I
hope,
the
neighbors
and
that
that
speak
tonight
and
see
that
even
in
the
last
week
we've
been
trying
to
to
be
as
responsive
as
possible
or
when
we
can.
X
We
also
committed
to
that,
while
our
schools
are
in
operation,
because
we
know
that
there
may
be
blind
shots
and
relationships
that
are
ongoing
and
as
I
mentioned,
our
organizational
design
is
designed
in
a
way
that
has
a
specific
person
to
to
accommodate
those
concerns.
Just
as
an
example,
in
the
last
week
we've
talked
about
our
busing
strategy.
All
of
our
students
take
Metro
Transit
buses
to
our
campus.
X
We
do
not
use
yellow
buses,
we
understand
there's
a
school
nearby,
but
the
traffic
management
is
an
important
conversation
with
our
neighborhood
and
our
Metro
transit
buses
will
accommodate
that.
We
have
a
desire
to
adapt
our
landscaping
needs.
We
even
found
a
way
to
keep
a
large
tree
on
the
site
just
recently
with
some
grading
changes
that
was
expressed
by
community
meeting
and
are
open
to
adaptations
as
needed,
though
we
do
offer
quite
a
bit
more
landscaping
than
I
know.
The
code
requires
if
they
were
in
the
60%,
compared
to
the
20%
requirement.
A
S
Name
is
my
name
is
Cynthia
Bobo.
My
address
is
46:29
2nd,
Avenue
South,
my
daughter,
Kyla
is
15
years
old.
She
will
be
when
school
start
again.
She
will
be
a
junior
and
she
doesn't.
She
won't
be
16
until
the
end
of
September.
This
school
is
an
amazing
school.
I
could
go
on
for
the
rest
of
the
night
to
talk
about.
The
school
Kyla
has
been
at
the
school
since
the
day,
the
doors
open
in
2007.
S
So
she
will
be
part
of
the
first
graduating
class
of
hiawatha,
Leadership
Academy,
so
the
whole
school,
the
education
is
stellar.
She
already
knows
where
she
wants
to
go
to
college,
although
she
changes
it
like
teenagers.
Do
she
is
a
student
AV
student
and
she
also
with
the
help
of
the
school.
They
do
practice.
Ac
T's
and
she
is
at
a
22
and
2530
is
guaranteed
scholarships
that
will
be
flooding
for
her
and
without
this
school
I.
Don't
think
that
this
would
have
happened.
She
is
the
last
of
five
children.
S
She
will
be
my
first
child
to
go
to
a
university,
and
that
is
a
big
achievement
in
itself,
and
not
only
is
my
daughter,
there
I
have
four
grandchildren
there:
five
I'm
safe,
but
anyway
she's
a
kindergarten.
She
just
started
so
I
have
five
grandchildren
their
grandchildren.
There
and
I
have
been
part
of
everything
that
goes
on
in
school,
and
that
is
phenomenal
because
a
lot
of
schools
you
can
not
only
you
can't
even
go
to
the
school
without
an
appointment.
S
There's
an
open-door
policy,
my
other
three
older
children
were
educated
in
Chicago,
Illinois
and
I.
Don't
have
anything
good
to
say
about
that.
What
happened
Minnesota
and
this
school.
Even
my
up,
my
youngest
son
Jojo
he's
24.
He
still
struggles
through
school,
but
Tyler
has
not
had
one
hiccup
in
her
education.
S
So
I
can't
like
I,
say:
I
could
talk
all
night
long
about
the
school
in
the
field.
The
kids
are
so
excited,
I'm,
so
excited
for
them
to
have
an
athletic
field,
because
right
now
they're
in
the
junior
high
building
and
they
have
a
little
playground
in
the
background
and
everything.
But
this
field
will
open
up
so
many
opportunities
for
our
children.
I
just
think
it's
phenomenal
and
I
think
all
the
little
things
can
definitely
be
worked
out.
There's
no,
there's
no
reason
why
they
can't.
So.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
Y
Some
3905
34:17
yourself
thanks
for
your
time
and
attention,
I've
got
I,
wrote,
big
voluminous
letter
and
I
think
you
have
it
because,
thanks
to
Lisa
and
she
minutes
later
over,
there,
you
get
the
Clarkes,
not
Lisa.
Hi,
Lisa
and
I've
got
seven
seven
points
and
I'm
trying
to
get
to
them
really
quickly.
I
think
there's
a
couple
of
other
neighbors
who
want
to
speak,
but
if
I
speak
too
quickly
or
if
you
don't
understand
my
accent,
please
completed
for
me
to
slow
down
and
I.
Y
Don't
want
that
to
delay
how
concerned
I
am
about
a
serious
proposal
tonight.
So
what
I'm
requesting
is
that
you
can
in
consideration
of
the
concerns
that
myself
and
my
neighbors
are
about
to
put
forward
that
you
delay
approval
of
this
proposal
tonight
until
we
can
have
ongoing
conversations
with
Sean
and
the
school
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
level
of
confidence
that
they
will
be
addressed.
We
don't
have
that
level
of
confidence
at
this
moment.
Y
The
second
matter,
you'll
have
some
could
redesign
also
communicated
with
Brian
Miller,
their
executive
director
I'm
curious
about
that
and
my
curiosity.
There
is
around
the
land,
use
and
pre
development
study
that
was
approved
as
guidelines
in
2007
that
I'm
presuming
that
you
guys
are
all
very
familiar
with.
So
when
I
looked
at
the
proposed
high
water
Academy,
it
really
is
kind
of
ambiguous.
Why
of
school
should
be
there
when
it's
meant
to
be
residential
after
talking
with
Brian
I
understand
why
such
a
school
and
I
think
it's
awesome.
Y
What
you
guys
do
in
terms
of
your
mission
now
is
be
feeding
the
mission
or
the
that
school
does
fantastic
work
or
that
it
should
be
Brewer.
It's
really
the
process,
the
proposal
and
certain
parts
of
that
design
we
want
to
talk
to,
but
I
would
like
I'd,
be
curious
to
hear
from
you
how
that
so
many
parts
of
this
proposal
kind
of
are
in
conflict.
That
probably
too
strong
of
a
word
is
the
land
history.
Development
study
in
the
land
use
plea
development
study.
Y
34Th
Avenue
is
excerpts
where
all
the
bikes
exits
as
kind
of
the
bracket
Park
experts,
two
cyclists
on
the
cyclist
myself
of
the
Greenway.
He
comes
straight
down
past
that
ugly
ugly
cluster
building
site
awesome.
That's
going
to
be
remediated
onto
34th
Avenue
in
the
land,
use
and
pre
development
study
that
was
envisaged
as
a
Boulevard,
pedestrian
and
bike
friendly
part
of
the
traffic
management
and
demand
plan
and
I'm
sure
I'm
going
to
get
my
acronyms
a
little
mixed
up
here.
Y
Is
that
there's
on
street
parking,
which
will
supplement
the
fact
that
there's
only
112
parking
spaces
when
there
are
expected
to
be
424?
Students
of
driving
age
now,
Shawn's
reassured
us
and
I-
know
no
reason
to
doubt
this
that,
especially
because
of
the
Latino
high
Latino
population
is
not
going
to
be
a
lot
of
student
drivers.
However,
the
traffic
demand
management
plan
says
any
excess
parking
can
be
accommodated
on
this
residential
street.
Y
So
that's
amazing
conflict
with
the
vision
of
what
34th
Avenue
should
be
and
should
become,
and
it
also
raises
the
point
of
event
parking
which
the
traffic
demand
management
study
also
says
can
be
accommodated,
particularly
in
the
2800
block.
So
what
is
there
something
that
could
be
done
about
that
going
to
be
no
parking
here
after
hours
like
they
do
announcement,
Thomas
and
in
case
I,
don't
know,
but
that's
that's
a
concern
that
we
don't
have.
Y
Confidence
is
going
to
be
addressed
and
I
think
it's
because
the
build
up
of
the
school
and
the
population
is
going
to
have
an
over
a
number
of
years.
So
it's
not
going
to
be
788
kids
there
in
year,
one
right
and
they
approach
them.
Shawn
are
the
responsive,
Shawn.
Well,
let's
see
what
happens
and
if
we
need
to
change
our
strategy.
This
is
a
big
development
on
a
very
small
block
and
to
me
it
gives
you
guys
to
actually
consider
the
long
term
strategy,
regardless
of
whether
that
might
change
at
the
time.
Y
Okay
and
then
there
was
the
Greenway
coalition.
So
me
they're,
supportive
of
it
not
so
concerned
because
of
the
in
the
land
you
studied
is
meant
to
be
eyes
on
the
Greenway
I
think
the
building
design
is
really
kind
of
attractive
and
what
you've
done
in
preserving
that
fund
end
of
the
sheffster
building.
I,
really
personally,
like
all
kinds,
no
not
so
concerned
about
that.
Y
So
concerns
over
that
there's
a
huge
one
about
traffic.
Now
the
traffic
demand
management
study
looks
great
on
paper,
I,
don't
know
whether
they
actually
equipped
with
it
actually
there
during
the
time
of
school,
that
Anne
Sullivan
and
the
inish
in
school
at
operate,
but
28th
Street
when
I
looked
up
in
Google's
autumn
I'm,
hoping
I'm
referring
to
Minnesota
ordinances,
but
I
looked
up.
The
municipal
state
aid
plan
right
that
allocates
I'm
assuming
funding
to
maintenance
of
road
28
Street
is
one
of
those
roads
that
I
think
is
under
is
at
odds
with.
Y
You
know
what
they
think
should
be
given
to
that
road,
and
it
has
a
lot
of
traffic
on
it.
Now
the
feeder
streets
I,
don't
think
I
meant
to
have
bus
traffic
on
them
at
all,
but
anecdotally
they
have
such
traffic
on
them
right.
We're
not
talking
about
Hiawatha,
not
talking
about
that's
a
whole
other
issue
of
ninety-five
kids
being
dropped
off
and
curbside
cutting
right,
even
I
think
it
was
in
Hillary's
plan
somewhere,
and
this
might
have
been
the
pre
development
study.
Y
But
in
the
predator
lament
study
they
were
even
recommended
that
the
curb
side,
it
would
be
better
if
kids
are
offloaded
on
the
actual
property
itself,
not
using
the
curbside
drop-off,
but
there
is,
can
I
read
you
a
quote
from
the
neighbor
I
currently
live
on
the
2800
block
of
video
70
35th
Avenue
during
the
regular
MSP
school
year.
It
is
not
unusual
to
have
up
to
15
school
buses
drive
down
our
street.
This
is
35th
Avenue,
so
they
shouldn't
actually
be
using
that
street
unless
we're
going
to
get
allocated
maintenance
dollars
to
help
upkeep.
Y
As
a
result
of
all
these
office
driving
down
that
Street
right
morning
and
afternoon
to
reach
an
sullivan
school,
I
would
like
to
make
sure
how
other
academies
would
have
transportation
in
the
works.
That
does
not
add
to
this
traffic
and
does
not
utilize
vertically
for
me,
so
we
know
there's
not
going
to
be
the
buses,
but
that
would
does
raise
a
question.
In
the
permission,
I
cover
what
they're
called
their
variances
conditional
use
permit.
Y
It's
referred
to
as
K
to
12
now
Sean
said
this
is
a
nine
to
twelve
school,
but
in
various
parts
of
that
permit
the
language
has
carried
to
tool.
So
that
just
raises
the
concern
about
what
are
we
granting
a
permit
for?
Is
it
a
nine
to
twelve
but
will
always
and
only
be
Metro
transit?
Can
there
be
some
change
of
mind
in
the
future
where
it
becomes
K
to
twelve,
and
it
could
just
be
a
language
thing,
but
that's
a
concern
that
I
have
that
we'd
like
to
see
address.
Y
So
that's
a
traffic
in
one
of
the
other
applications
enforcement
now
I'm
knowing
is
able
to
enforce
what
happens.
We've
had
a
bus
go
down
that
Street
knock
off
a
resident.
Read
sideview
mirror
the
records
to
the
resident
to
the
school,
not
our
problem
contact
the
bus
company,
no
resolution
right.
It's
fine
to
say
that
we
can
enforce
these
and
I
think
it
was.
Commissioner
Witten,
though
they
said
that
enforcement
is
a
difficult
issue.
Well,
that's
not
really
a
satisfactory
answer
for
the
residents
when
things
go
wrong.
Y
If
it's
not,
strictly
speaking,
the
liability
of
the
school
out
of
the
residents
have
recourse
and
I
truly
believe
when
Sean
says
he's
got
community
liaisons
I
think
that's
great,
but
we
haven't
had
time
to
talk
through
all
these
issues
with
Sean
to
feel
confident
that
this
stuff
isn't
going
to
be
a
major
source
of
school.
Next
to
a
school.
Ninety
five
parents
dropping
kids
off
here,
20
hours
of
seven
to
eight
twenty
seven
ten
to
eight.
Twenty
is
a
lot
of
lot
of
traffic
for
that
little
street.
Y
How
are
they
feeding
up
and
down
to
get
to
the
school
for
drop-off
and
I?
Think
I'm
going
to
leave
you
to
speak
to
the
le-tree,
because
I
know
I'm
going
on
a
bit
here
and
okay,
landscaping
and
I
have
a
different
number
in
the
report.
I,
looked
at
on
the
in
sight
today,
Hilary
so
I
might
have
looked
at
one.
Y
That
was
since
updated
that
I
had
landscaping
and
I'm
a
bit
confused
about
the
landscaping
being
perceived
as
a
lot,
but
the
tree
allocation
actually
being
much
lower
than
what
is
required
for
this
area,
so
from
59
canopy
trees
to
31
canopy,
trees
from
292,
shrubs
to
67
shrubs,
but
Hilary
I
think
he
said
it
was
146
and
there
was
something
there
in
the
fine
print.
That
said,
the
car
park
was
in
proximity
to
a
mature
tree.
So
I
guess
my
question:
there
is
as
they're
being
where
is
it
there's
some
tree
protection?
Y
Maybe
actually
Scott
knows
this,
but
there's
if
there
a
tree
protection
plan,
have
they
been
talking
to
the
urban
forestry
folks?
What
is
the
plan
to
tree
preservation?
Is
there
one?
Can
we
see
it
they've
actually
engaged
in
earnest
dialog
with
authority?
You
know
whatever
the
department
is
that
they're
supposed
to
engage
with
so
that
NPR
B,
which
I
think
Scott's
area.
Sorry,
commissioner,
feel
Andrea.
Okay,
that's
three
soccer
field.
Okay,
concerns
about
the
soccer
field
is
variances
for
the
setbacks
of
this.
In
the
plan,
it's
a
big
soccer
field.
Y
Do
any
of
you
know
the
neighborhood.
Have
you
been
to
that
neighborhood?
If
so,
commissioner,
very
peregrinus?
Yes,
so
right
off
of
this
bracket
part
huge
park,
huge
facility,
I,
understand
the
passwords.
Looking
at
doing
soccer
fields
there
and
I
understand
that
you'd
want
to
dedicated.
We
wouldn't
want
to
dedicated
soccer
field
as
part
of
the
school,
but
the
lighting
I
think
the
lighting
is
going
to
be
approved
about
sixty
six.
Y
If
they're
requirement
that
the
distance
between
the
light
pole
and
new
residences
double
the
height
of
the
light
pole
so
I
don't
know
how
much
120
feet
is.
But
when
you
look
at
those
illumination
plans
which
always
look
good
on
paper
right,
those
lumens
always
say
to
the
agreeable
limit
right
when
it
hits
the
neighborhood
property,
but
I
would
want
to
be
living
in
that
house
on
28th
Street
during
a
soccer
event,
so
I
really
appreciated
Commission,
no
gag
number,
that's
hard
cutoff
for
the
events.
We
don't
know
how
many
events
they're
going
to
be.
Y
You
don't
know
if
there's
going
to
be
ten
events,
it
was
kind
of
news
to
us
that
we're
actually
going
to
open
them
up
to
the
park
board
to
have
events
when
school
was
up
there.
So
we
just
don't
get
how
much
that
volume
of
traffic
and
people
is
going
to
have
an
impact
on
us.
I
read
somewhere
in
the
requirement
of
conditional
permit
desks,
which
I
thought
was
great,
but
it
will
not
be
detrimental
to
or
endanger
the
public,
health,
safety,
comfort
or
general
welfare.
No
one
that
we've
spoken
to.
Y
Y
Y
The
well
so
well
is
415
feet
in
depth.
Okay,
when
you
look
at
the
aquifer
research,
it
could
be
to
a
very
old
aquifer
billions
of
years
old.
The
fact
that
that
will
is
going
to
be
used
as
irrigation
for
a
soccer
field
is
egregious
to
me
right.
That's
1
million
gallons
a
year
in
my
calculations
to
water,
a
soccer
field.
When
why
do
you
even
need
a
soccer
field
and
you've
got
Brackett
Park
20
feet
across
the
road?
Why,
but
they're
a
greater
collaboration,
the
school?
Y
R
I'm
tree
today,
I
live
at
2,
8,
1,
7,
35th
Avenue
South
to
let
you
don't
weigh
in
the
5th
house
in
down
the
south
side
of
where
the
proposed
school
is
to
be
what
I
want
a
really
addressable
a
couple
things.
Let
me
just
say:
I
love,
education,
I
have
a
master's
degree.
I've
had
various
degrees
and
for
a
school
to
be
one
for
persons
of
minority
is
great
I
am
a
person
of
color.
I
belong
to
boy.
Try
so
I'm,
not
disputing
that
I
love
school
I,
don't
think
they
have
spent
time
doing.
R
A
traffic
study
of
this
area.
I
have
spent
a
significant
amount
of
time.
The
last
year
helping
to
drive
a
friend
student
class
child
to
school,
watching
more
than
80
about
80
parents
line
up
45
minutes
in
advance
to
pick
up
their
school
for
their
kid
from
school.
When
they
talk
about
a
cutout
and
you're
talking
28
straight
and
36,000,
which
had
hoses
to
bust
up
my
alley
now
I
was
sold
by
a
scam.
Why
don't
I
just
turn
around
and
go
the
other
direction?
R
I
answer
the
ad
Lee
from
29th
Street
to
enter
my
garage.
My
biggest
concern
is
I.
Have
a
50%
grade
going
down
my
alley
right
on
to
28th
Street
and
it's
flanked
by
two
retaining
walls
I
creep,
even
in
the
summer
I
creep
down
that
hill
I
narrowly
missed,
hitting
somebody's
dog
who
ran
across
in
this
in
the
winter.
We
slide
now,
it's
great
to
say
we're
going
to
put
sand.
It's
great
to
say
every
one
of
these.
R
These
Oklahoma
owners
are
going
to
be
able
to
turn
around
and
go
the
other
direction,
but
I'm
fearful
with
the
cutouts
being
directly
right
across
from
there.
Somebody
there's
going
to
be
accident
after
accident,
of
the
amount
of
students
being
dropped
up,
and
that
is
a
fear.
I
just
I
fear
every
time
I
come
down
even
as
I
creep
at
2
miles
an
hour,
so
I'm
a
very
big
concern
about
that.
The
corner.
R
R
On
top
of
the
Anne
Sullivan
school
bus
is
going
down
our
block
and
items
waiting,
we're
going
to
have
the
students,
the
students,
parents
so
I,
just
don't
think
they
have
spent
enough
time
and
visited
that
area
to
really
look
at
the
amount
of
traffic
on
top
of
the
next
and
yeah
an
sullivan
school
for
them
to
really
make
a
decision.
The
suit.
So
I
hope
you
consider
that.
Thank
you
all.
Z
Me
clearly,
my
cell
phone,
that's
where
my
notes
are
here.
My
name
is
Travis
Gopal
I
live
at
2808,
35th,
Avenue
South,
so
three
houses
in
from
the
proposed
development
and,
while
my
my
summer,
attire,
might
not
attach
to
it
I'm.
Actually,
a
public
school
teacher
for
Minneapolis,
Public
Schools,
so
I
fully
realized
the
value
of
education.
I
had
taught
students
who
have
I'm
an
eighth
grade.
Teacher
and
I've
had
I
have
students
every
year
who
go
to
Hiawatha
Academy
as
ninth
graders,
and
they
have
a
great
program
and
a
strong
program.
Z
Students
come
back
to
say
hello
and
say
I'm
really
enjoying
my
time
there.
So
I
fully
support
the
mission
and
and
again
being
a
fellow
educator.
I
completely
agree
with
the
what
what
it
is
they're
trying
to
accomplish.
However,
my
concern
is
not
about
the
school
or
the
program
or
the
great
work
that
they
do.
Z
My
concern
is
the
impact
of
the
proposed
site
on
my
neighborhood
in
my
home,
specifically
28th
Street,
aside
from
the
traffic
conditions,
if
you've
ever
driven
down
28th
Street,
it's
like
driving
on
a
35
year
old
mattress,
you
will
just
rock
back
and
forth
the
whole
way.
If
you
hit
it
with
any
speed,
you
will
lift
a
wheel
off
the
road
so
on
that
Street
on
unless
Public
Works
has
a
plan
to
concrete
that
Street
every
year
they
come
out
with
the
asphalt
and
every
year
they
come
back
and
redo
it
again.
Z
So
the
increased
traffic
aside
from
the
bus
traffic,
the
increased
car
traffic,
will
further
destroy
the
road
that
I
rely
on
to
access
my
neighborhood.
So
that
is
one
concern
that
I
have
in
regards
to
that
Street.
The
other
one
again
is
the
is
the
like
polls,
as
has
been
mentioned
again,
being
three
houses
from
the
proposed
site.
Z
Well,
that
may
be
technically
more
than
120
feet.
I
guarantee
I'm
going
to
see
it,
and
it's
going
to
shine
right
through
my
windows.
I
do
have
North
facing
windows
on
the
home.
In
fact
my
bedroom
faces
north.
So
if
those
lights
are
kick
in
at
10
o'clock
at
night,
and
it's
bedtime,
then
I'm
going
to
see
it
it's
going
to
come
right
through
I,
don't
feel
like
I
need
to
blackout
shade
my
house
for
a
60-foot
light
pole
I'm.
Z
Z
Z
Pardon
me
notes
here
and
then,
of
course,
the
the
construction
it
was
previously
mentioned
in
one
of
the
previous
applicants
sonic
and
seismic
impact
on
the
neighborhood
again
being
three
houses
down
from
a
seventy
four
thousand
square
foot
renovation,
I
can't
imagine
the
sonic
or
seismic
and
the
sonic
insides
an
impact
on
the
quality
of
life
on
our
home
during
the
construction
time
is
just
going
to
be
intense
again.
Seventy
building
sound
like
you're,
building
a
shed
in
the
backyard.
Z
Seventy
four
thousand
feet
of
concrete
and
steel
is
going
to
shake
and
make
some
noise,
so
that
is
concern
that
I
have
ultimately,
my
my
greatest
concern
with
the
project
is
the
is
a
consistency
process
that
was
gone
through
with
the
neighborhood.
It
has
been
noted
that
the
Longfellow
community
council,
the
Greenway
coalition
of
the
Greenway
coat
and
the
Seward-
remember
the
exact
thank
you
all
had
meetings
and
got
together
with
it,
and
but
the
neighborhood
has
found
out
less
than
two
weeks
ago.
Z
Subsequently,
this
morning,
as
I
was
driving
by
the
site,
I
noticed
the
pink
piece
of
paper
plastered
to
the
side
of
the
building,
so
I
walked
up
and
read
it,
and
it
noted
all
the
agenda
items
that
we
are
discussing
this
evening
on
the
own.
So
why
didn't
I
go
up
and
read
the
piece
of
paper
there?
Also
right
next
to
those
signs
are
no
trespassing,
some
facilities
under
surveillance
and
there's
been
security.
Z
Cars
parked
outside
I'm
not
going
to
go,
walk
up
the
hill
and
read
a
piece
of
paper
with
security
card,
a
no
trespassing
sign
with
cameras
watching
my
every
move.
So
the
biggest
concern
here
is,
while
I,
you
know
they
own
land,
I
can't
imagine
how
much
they
paid
for
that
building
and
the
land
that
it
sits
on.
So
I
think
it's
kind
of
said
that
this
project
is
going
to
move
forward
and
I
also
realize
again
being
a
teacher.
Z
The
timeline
that
goes
into
this
recognizing
that
school
needs
to
start
when
it
needs
to
start.
However,
I
think
one
month
at
your
next
meeting,
I
believe
is
July
17th
I
think
one
month
having
that
month.
Instead
of
a
week
for
us
to
work
out,
some
of
the
issues
that
the
neighborhood
has
would
be
beneficial,
I
think
Hiawatha
Academy
would
find
greater
acceptance
within
the
neighborhood
if
we
could
take
the
time
to
not
only
speak
to
the
council's,
but
to
the
people
who
live
in
those
neighborhoods.
The
council
is
a
small
group
of
people.
Z
C
A
C
D
J
D
K
D
D
V
V
Okay,
but
again
so
that's
fine.
The
expectation,
though,
is
people
are
going
to
be
the
park.
Visitors,
Watchers
and
I
know
like
for
our
soccer
fit
our
fields
that
are
disconnected
from
schools.
There's
parking
all
up
and
down
the
neighborhoods
all
over
the
place.
So
that's
just
going
to
be
a
reality.
W
Green
I'll
ask
one
quick
clarifying
question.
So
item
G
site
plan
review
for
the
building
in
the
addition
does
that
include
the
soccer
field,
or
is
that
as
a
soccer
field
covered
with
variances,
or
is
that
in
G,
if
someone
was
going
to
put
a
condition
on
the
soccer
field,
but
you
want
to
put
it
in
G
if.
D
W
A
N
C
C
A
AA
N
N
W
A
Right
we
have
most
amount,
a
second
to
approve
G
the
site
plan
review
with
that
modification
to
condition
one
changing
2017
to
2019
there.
Any
further
discussion,
I'll,
just
add
and
I-
think
several
of
the
neighbors
have
now
left,
but
you
know
I
certainly
understand
the
concerns
about
traffic.
When
you
have
a
vacant
building,
that's
going
to
be
reoccupied
with
something
that
at
least
at
certain
times
a
day
you
know
has
a
pretty
intense
bayous,
and
particularly
with
the
soccer
field.
When
there
are
events
there,
it
can
result
in
a
lot
of
traffic
I'm.
A
Pretty
confident,
though,
that
the
occupants
of
this
building
will
try
to
be
a
good
neighbor.
It
seems,
like
they've,
demonstrated
that
they're
willing
to
work
with
the
neighbors
and
if
they're,
further
traffic
issues
or
parking
issues
that
need
to
be
sorted
out,
I
think
there
is
still
opportunity
to
do
that.
Mr.
gay
sorry,
I.
V
Just
wanted
to
comment
on
that
I
believe
the
school
start
and
end
times
are
very,
very
different
for
Hiawatha
and
miss
Sullivan,
so
that
should
also
play
a
role
in
allowing
I
mean
it's
not
going
to
help
the
streets
not
become
disrepair,
but
it
will
help
the
traffic
patterns
that
the
I
know.
Sullivan
has
some
after
school
activities
and
50,
but
I
still
think
at
least
the
end
times
are
very,
very
different
and
I
believe
the
start
times
has
been
released.
Art
school
all.
L
It's
a
large
area,
and
certainly
using
storm
water
rather
than
the
aquifer,
would
be
a
better
use
of
both
decreasing
the
negative
impact
of
storm
water
on
the
river
that
this
water
would
drain
to.
So,
if
there's
a
cistern
system
or
other
systems,
I'm
also
a
watershed,
commissioner,
or
the
Mississippi
watershed
management
organization,
and
we
could
be
helpful
with
the
the
technologies
and
maybe
even
some
funding
of
some
strategies
to
use
storm
water
as
your
your
first,
your
first
choice
for
mitigating
storm
water
issues
and
keeping
your
field
green.
L
F
A
A
A
D
D
So
I
guess
to
abbreviate,
and
the
applicants
are
here
to
speak
to
some
of
the
conditions
pertaining
to
the
conditional
use
permit
for
the
planned
and
development
and
also
the
site
plan
review.
But
there
are
other
applications
and
so
I'm
to
be
fair
to
those
in
the
audience.
I
will
quickly
run
through
those
as
I.
Think
I
should
have
done
that
two
items.
The
first
item
I
presented
is
this
evening.
D
So
there's
a
rezoning
of
the
properties,
those
that
are
c1,
which
is
the
majority
of
the
site
to
the
C,
to
the
conditional
use
from
it,
then
for
the
Planned
Unit
development,
a
variance
to
increase
the
maximum
from
Anna's
floor
area.
From
two
point:
seven,
two
to
three
point:
eight:
nine
I'm,
a
variance.
F
D
District
standards
to
allow
a
single
commercial
use
to
have
more
than
120
feet
of
frontage,
and
that
is
along
west
15
States
135
feet
of
frontage
that
they
have
a
variance
of
ten
sites
and
six
to
ten
along
Nicollet.
I
know
that
you
all
give
me
eyes
it's
not
as
scary
as
it
sounds
that
I
will
point
out
where,
where
those
benefits
are
six
to
ten,
that
has
to
do
great
change,
them
has
to
do
with
the
garage
wall
that
projects
above
grade.
D
There
is
a
point
of
view
and
under
the
preliminary
plan
I'm
going
to
skip
forward,
they
do
meet
the
point
requirements.
We
are
not
recommending
approval
of
the
points
with
based
on
some
Meserve
sites
or,
if
you
will
in
the
pewdie
there
they
do
achieve
the
required
number
one.
Is
that
I'm
necessary
and
they
are
not.
D
It
was
as
far
as
I
know,
they
are
not
debating
the
rationale
for
us
not
recommending
approval
of
all
of
those
points.
This
is
just
a
site
plan
that
gives
you
a
little
bit
better
visual
on
the
overhead
this.
What
is
brown
on
your
salmon-colored
is.
The
decorative
pavement
on
the
site
is
a
delineate,
so
it's
the
site
plan
for
you,
everything
in
the
courtyard
areas
that
you
see
in
them
along
the
street.
That's
not
that
decorative
pavement
is
landscaping,
maybe
just
a
little
bit
more
of
a
site
and
the
colors
are
coming
out.
D
Also
on
your
overhead.
This
is
that
public
pathway
that
connects
niccola
Avenue
to
the
public
sidewalk,
then
on
Oak
growth.
This
is
the
public
sidewalk
along
the
Clemens
15.
So
we
did
have
some
conversations
about
the
public
sidewalk
on
15th
and
landscaping
versus
no
landscaping,
and
the
neighborhood
and
Public
Works
agree
that
no
landscaping
is
best
given
the
narrowness
of
that
site.
We
did
have
that
conversation.
A
communal.
The
end
result
is
no
landscaping.
They
do
have
landscaping
on
their
property
and
back
of
the
property
line.
D
With
planters
and
whatnot
that
you
we,
some
of
the
commissioners
I
think
debated
actually,
but
there
is
no
landscaping
there.
We
are
adding
on
keeping
along
nicholette,
both
in
the
right-of-way
and
then
on
the
private
property
and
then
the
lines
for
the
middle
of
the
site
pros.
That
shows
that
excuse
me
about
through
black
connection
from
Nicollet
through
this
main
courtyard
and
then
to
the
different
activity
points
along
the
alley.
This
is
the
southern
part
here
that
has
talked
about
in
the
sacrified.
This
is
where
the
children
play
equipment
is
located
on
the
site.
D
There
are
some
alternative
compliance
measures
that
are
being
asked
for
insights
interview.
One
is
building
emplacement
that
courtyard
area
of
the
building
on
the
south.
Excuse
me,
the
north
end
of
the
site
is
recessed
173
feet.
Excuse
me
awesome
from
Nicollet.
We
are
recommending
approval.
This
is
a
design
element
that
you
see
and
any
of
the
older
buildings
in
the
neighborhood.
We
are
recommending
that
you
grants
will
turn
compliance.
They
have
some
link
wall
issues
on
the
site.
D
One
is
on
an
interior
wall
of
the
building,
they're,
mitigating
that
through
landscaping
and
then
on
one
portion
of
the
wall
that
faces
the
alley.
It's
actually
resets,
underneath
the
building
in
their
loading
dock
phase,
so
it
is
set
fairly
far
back
from
the
property
line.
Sweet.
You
really
won't
see
that
for
sex
it
is,
it
will
be
in
shadow
with
the
building
floor
plate
above
the
exterior
material
percentages.
They
do
have
a
high
percentage
of
fiber
cement
on
the
elevation
facing
the
alley.
Thirty
percent
is
what
was
allowed.
D
D
They
do
exceed
that
in
most
cases
they
have
for
materials
for
elevation,
however,
that
fourth
out
material
is
a
stone
it's
used
as
the
window
sills
and
as
accent
materials
on
those,
and
so
we
are
recommending
they
dress
those
from
compliance
for
that
and
then
the
last
one
is
the
landscape
dirt
and
screen
in
the
loading
area.
We
put
landscaping
there.
You
would
not
well
one.
It
was
the
end
of
the
building
and
into
with
hinder
maneuvering
into
and
out
of.
D
Into
and
out
of
the
loading
system,
so
we're
recommending
alternative
compliance
I'm
going
to
the
conditions
of
approval
for
site
plan
review,
the
the
one
condition
that
I
know
they
do
want
to
talk
about
is
the
condition,
and
it's
in
the
conditional
use.
Permit
then
also
the
variance
of
SAR
is
the
condition
about
the
eighty
five
verses
of
the
ground
floor
of
the
North
Building,
the
commercial
retail
uses,
and
so
this
is
of
the
floor
plan.
But
this
is
a
plan
that
shows
the
the
floor
plan.
D
The
commercial
space
in
the
building
is
concentrated
in
this
location.
That
is
your
retail
all
of
this
elemental
two
different.
This
is
building
amenity
space.
If
you
will
the
lobby
the
workout
room,
the
yoga
room
wait
what
happened
and
then
from
this
line
over.
This
is
all
residential
units.
There
is
a
three
foot
great
change
about
here
in
the
building,
and
so
all
of
those
units,
as
you
may
remember,
from
from
a
the
whole,
have
been
converted
to
the
live
work
units.
They
do
have
staircases,
however,
from
the
street.
F
D
D
We
felt
that
because
of
the
SAR
that
is
needed
and
the
activity
center
and
the
commercial
corridor
and
where
downtown
growth
center,
that
we
did
want
to
see
more
commercial
in
the
building,
and
so
we
did
add
that
condition
that
you
have
85%
of
that
ground
floor
and
the
north,
just
in
the
North
Building
be
retail.
So
that
would
you
know
that
takes
out
trash,
elevator
staircase
towers.
What
not
allows
room
for
that,
and
so
it
would
be
all
of
this
done
that
we
would
be
looking
at
you
know.
D
We
do
have
a
condition
that
they
add
to
destory
ins,
scale,
lighting
in
and
around
the
perimeter
of
the
play
area.
If
you
looked
at
the
lighting
plan,
a
lot
of
my
projects
have
two
dislikes
today.
There
are
perimeter
lights
on
the
side
of
the
building,
but
those
are
controlled
by
the
units
themselves,
seeing
it
owners
as
a
renters,
and
there
is
the
one
main
entrance
from
the
buildings
which
has
a
light
over.
However,
at
night,
if
you
choose
not
to
have
your
porch
light
on,
it's
going
to
be
dark.
D
We
also
have
conditions
about
benches
and
trash
and
recycle
and
receptacles
in
that
areas,
because
parents
like
to
sit
and
then
you
also
do
have
trash,
because
you
feed
your
children,
you
bring
them
out
to
play,
and
then
we
are.
This
is
just
the
suggestion.
It's
not
a
requirement,
but
we
are
recommending
that
the
apple
can
consider
reducing
the
amount
of
colors
of
the
fiber
cement
they
have
for.
We
would
like
to
have
seen
less
than
four
and
that
we
again
we're
not
mandating.
D
That
is
just
a
point
of
conversation
or
if
no
one
has
any
thought
on
it.
You
know
we
can
talk
about
that
further
and
they
can
tell
you
why
I
want
to
have
that
number
of
colors
and
the
other
conditions
of
approval
done
that
are
under
the
site
interview.
This
is
the
main
entrance
into
that
north
residential
into
the
lobby
space.
D
If
you
will,
if
your
guests
even
I,
think
you
well,
you
may
be
able
to
get
into
this
Lobby,
but
if
you're
coming
to
the
building
this
does
that
mean
Lobby,
expanse
or
the
main
entrance?
It
is
recessed
more
than
the
eight
feet
back
from
that
property
lines,
we're
recommending
a
that
that
you
brought
up
this
is
part
of
the
loving
em
times
drawing
all
over
this.
Now
this
is
part
of
the
lobby
for
the
residents,
and
so
it
could
be
reworked
to
have
that
entrance
see
closer
to
the
property
line.
D
We
have
a
requirement
that
there
be
80
to
long-term
bike
parking
spaces
for
the
residents
in
the
building
until
I
know
that
they
are
amenable
to
that
I'm
immense
of
the
this
is
the
mechanical
units
that
are
located
along
in
the
alley.
This
is
a
path
there
is
a
dog
run,
that's
personally
on
a
property
but
partially
on
the
94
property,
and
that
will
be
open
to
the
residents
and
also
to
the
residents
in
the
neighborhood,
and
so
there's
Lance
to
be
here.
D
A
C
AB
V
A
B
D
They
hadn't
found
an
artist,
and
so,
after
the
fact,
I
worked
with
their
artists
and
you
know
made
sure
that
everything
that
the
dollar
amounts,
but
the
numbers
worked
up
enough
of
us.
There
was
a
public
art
piece,
and
so
they
are
proposing
public
art
to
sit
in
the
middle
of
this.
But
I
get
again
it's
early
in
the
process.
They
haven't
selected
artists,
I,
don't
know
what
it
is.
I
would
work
with
them
and
their
artists
and
to
ensure
that
the
value
equals.
What
are
quantifiers
look.
W
W
D
D
The
way
that
I,
yes
in
the
way
that
I
look
at
the
condition
that
whole
ground-floor
needs
to
be
reworked,
I,
don't
see
another
way
to
meet
that
condition
without
reworking
that
so
that
means
maybe
there
aren't
no
drawing
units
at
all
in
the
ground
floor.
Maybe
there's
no
amenities
base
for
the
residence,
maybe
that's
just
a
different
part
of
the
building,
I'm,
not
sure
I'd,
like
you
know,
the
applicant
I
have
discussed
this
a
little
bit,
but
not
not
to
the
extent
of
if,
if
that
is,
remains
a
condition
of
approval.
What
what
happens?
A
AC
President
Braun
and
plenty
commission
members,
my
name-
is
Ryan
Munder
being
with
dominium
addresses
2865
29th
Avenue,
north
I'm
at
the
Minnesota.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration
tonight
and
thanks
Hillary
for
for
all
of
your
work
on
the
project.
To
get
us
to
this
point.
Overall,
we've
got
a
great
project
proposed.
AC
Portable
housing,
public
courtyard
spaces
live
work
unit,
reach
units,
retail,
a
private
playground,
courtyard
space
for
children,
the
residents,
a
solar,
rooftop
amenity,
among
other
things,
a
complicated
project
given
the
affordable
housing.
The
structure
that's
proposed
with
cap
rents,
especially
in
this
location.
We
work
closely
with
the
council
member,
the
Lauren
Park
Neighborhood
Association
who's
who's
here
tonight,
as
well
have
had
multiple
meetings
with
them:
the
police
department
and
other
groups
to
develop
the
current
design.
AC
That's
before
you
tonight,
I
believe
there
are
about
17
conditions
outlined
in
the
staff
report
to
the
project
in
total
and
I.
Think
roughly
12
or
13
of
those
were
agreeable
to
without,
without
any
further
discussion
and
like
10
by
chris
falco
h
up
from
PKB
to
start
going
through
the
items
we
like
to
discuss
trigger.
AB
AB
22Nd
to
to
to
North
2nd
Street,
sorry
in
the
appleÃs
first
time,
I'd
like
to
address
is
the
the
principal
entry
discussion
point
that
the
policies
that
have
it
within
8
feet
from
the
property
line.
We
really
took
our
design
cues
for
this
from
the
from
the
neighborhood
and
from
the
context
of
a
lot
of
historic
projects.
You
can
see
on
the
map
here,
the
all
the
projects
and
the
like
buff
our
projects
that
have
a
courtyard
style
entry.
AB
The
two
closest
to
us
being
the
Buckingham
apartments
here
and
125
Oak
Grove
Street.
All
of
these
really
kind
of
help
design
our
give
a
lot
of
cues
to
design
our
building.
Overall.
As
you
can
see,
the
shape
of
our
overall
building
then
ends
up
being
two
courtyards
one
towards
Nicollet,
which
is
to
be
our
entry
courtyard
area
and
then
one
towards
the
alley
side
really
to
capture
the
Western
Sun
and
that's
our
kids
play
area
and
it's
more
of
the
kind
of
what
call
the
backyard
a
little
bit
of
the
building.
Overall.
AB
So,
to
speak
more
directly
to
the
courtyard
entry,
if
we're
approximately
just
over
28
feet
from
the
property
line
here
is
the
entry
point
here
is
Hillary
brought
up.
We
feel
we've
done
a
number
of
items
to
really
maximize
the
visibility
and
create
a
cohesive
overall
architectural
feature
of
call.
This
entry
works
the
overall,
the
North
entry
inhabits
this
entire
portion.
It's
split
in
half.
AB
You
can
see
the
fences,
the
fence
through
here
there's
a
private
resident
courtyard
more
in
and
the
inner
portion
of
the
building,
and
then,
if
you
get
out
towards
the
street,
it's
a
public
court
and
we
enter
through
the
public
court
area
so
that
public
court
is
really
this
entire
area
right
here.
Additionally,
from
there
we
have
entry,
canopy
overhead
that
comes
all
the
way
out
and
within
three
feet
of
the
property
line
and
we'll
have
our
entry
signage
and
we're
not
presenting
the
entry
signage
today.
AB
AB
AB
We
think
we're
you
know
as
you'll
see
in
some
of
these
future
perspectives.
We
think
we're
providing
a
great,
a
great
walkable
vibrant
community
in
this
building
and
be
happy
to
share
with
it
more,
but
we're
really
going
back
to
that
85%
portion.
We
excluded
the
vertical
circulation
here
and
here,
and
it
only
left
us
with
this
back
portion
here
over
all
of
this
85%
of
we're
looking
at
just
at
the
floor
just
by
square
feet,
and
you
know
that
could
certainly
be
positioned
in
different
locations.
AB
But
it
really
leaves
us
with
a
difficult
opportunity
to
where
to
locate
retail.
If
you
know,
as
we
get
further
further
from
the
street
closer,
the
alley
becomes
more
difficult
to
use
overall,
but
just
wanted
to
give
that
visual
piece
there
and
for
the.
As
for
the
perimeter
piece,
we
we
consider
the
live
work
in
our
minds
to
be
part
of
the
retail
square
footage.
AB
W
Q
F
AB
AC
Just
a
couple
of
more
points
on
more
on
the
85%
of
the
square
footage
requirement.
So
you
know:
we've
engaged
a
retail
consultant
along
the
way
and
been
working
with
them
for
a
number
of
months,
and
there
are,
you
know,
recommendations
from
them
where
retail
tenants
in
order
to
lease
that
space
they
look.
They
would
much
prefer
a
shallow
depth
of
a
retail
space
where
you
get
more
storefront
square
footage
versus
deeper
space
and
a
narrower
storefront.
AC
So
that's
base
to
the
back
of
the
building
towards
the
alley
is
much
less
valuable
to
them,
and
so
you
know
I
think
you
know
that
that
makes
that
challenging
the
other
thing
about
requiring
85%
is
it
virtually
leaves
us
with
no
space
to
operate
the
property
or
either
stripping
our
amenities
from
the
project
or,
if
you
relocate
them.
What
would
happen?
A
Can
you
help
us
understand
why
you
prefer
to
have
that
retail
frontage
along
15th,
Street
I
know
our
comprehensive
plan
tends
envision
more
continuous
commercial
along
designated
commercial
corridors
like
Nicollet
as
opposed
to
15-3.
This
is
more
the
location.
Is
that
the
depth
of
the
space
or
access
to
the
alley?
Maybe
you
could
help
us
understand
why
you
preferred
to
locate
the
retail
in
that
part
of
the
building
sure.
AB
We
were
doing
our
initial
studies.
It
was
really
driven
by
the
traffic
on
15th
is
I,
don't
know
if
it's
exactly
double
but
a
much
higher
level
of
traffic
through
there.
It
was
just
going
to
create,
create
just
more
visibility
of
that
space
overall,
and
you
know,
working
through
the
layers
with
the
neighborhood
and
having
multiple
meetings.
We
know
work
to
create,
live
work
to
create.
You
know
that
kind
of
semi
semi
retail
along
Nicholas,
because
I
understand
the
importance
of
it
along
there
as
well,
and
the
pedestrian
experience
and.
J
J
AB
J
J
AB
J
A
AB
AB
F
AB
AB
AC
AB
To
give
the
to
give
the
appearance
that
it's
working
as
a
quick
use
of
unit
here
and
really
it's
the
the
main
facade
along
15th
and
Nicola
they're,
really
driven
by
the
relationship
as
you
go
down
the
sale.
You
look
at
some
of
the
beautiful
buildings
on
there
like
the
Buckingham
apartments
and
others
said
you
know
much.
C
AB
Very
rich
brick
and
masonry
high
quality
to
them
within
their
design
and
again
being
an
affordable
project.
We're
trying
to
find
the
balance
of
fitting
in
to
that
neighborhood
and
making
the
cost
I'll
work
out
at
the
end,
so
the
the
first
color
the
fiber
cement
at
the
brown.
The
second
is
a
bronze
along
the
top
here
on
the
South
building.
It
has
three
colors
of
fiber
cement.
AB
Releasing
many
many
units
throughout
the
country
that
they're
really
recommending
a
lighter
color
at
the
top
of
that
side,
saying
it
it's
going
to
have
low
visibility
from
the
street,
but
when
you
get
into
that
enclosed
courtyard,
having
a
dark
color
at
the
top,
really
kind
of
makes
the
entire
courtyard
feel
rather
dark.
Overall.
So
working
with
that,
we
we
stayed
within
the
palette
and
chose
a
gray
paint
that
would
match
the
metal
that's
seen
throughout
the
building.
I.
AC
Think
the
last
couple
of
items
really
one
of
them-
relates
to
the
link
and
the
Skyway
regulations
for
that
on
so
I.
You
know
if
we're
viewing
this
as
basically
a
corridor
use,
that's
for
our
resident
to
the
project,
private
use
for
them.
I
think
we
can
accommodate
the
glazing
requirement.
We're
close
to
that
now.
I
think
we're
six
percent
under
the
80
percent
requirement
for
the
glazing
in
looking
at
the
bird
proof
glass.
AC
The
costs
of
that
at
least
initially
from
pella
through
White's
builders,
is
that
that
would
be
add
the
project
of
about
one
hundred
and
ninety
thousand
dollars
to
do
that.
That
link
in
the
bird
proof,
glass
we're
currently
getting
a
lot
of
feedback
from
cpad
on
the
financing
side
of
things
for
cost
containment
and
we're
looking
for
help
for
ways
to
keep
our
costs
where
we
have
them
currently
through
our
application
with
them,
and
you
know,
they've
they've
made
that
pretty
clear
along
the
way,
so
yeah
we're
asking
for
two.
AC
AC
AC
We
want
to
see
if
you
would
consider
actually
removing
the
requirement
for
the
art
feature
as
a
three-point
QD
item
just
because
it
would
save
the
projects
and
costs
as
well
in
that
regard,
given
that
where
our
budget
is
is
kind
of
maxed
out
with
keep
it
on
the
financing
side.
So
if
that,
if
that's
something
you
would
consider
tonight,
we'd
appreciate
it.
If
not,
you
know
we'll
take
that
all
right.
A
Are
there
any
questions
of
the
applicant
I
might
clarify
one
thing
quickly
or
ask
mr.
Wittenberg
to
clarify
on
the
bird
safe
glass
issue,
I
understand,
there's
a
separate
approval
process
or
administrative
approval
process
for
that
that
that
level
of
detail
isn't
actually
considered
with
the
site
plan
review.
Is
that
correct
that.
Q
AC
But
we
think
it'd
be
a
great
feature
for
for
the
residents.
We
think
it
provided
a
better
way
of
life
for
for
in
the
winter,
they
wouldn't
have
to
either
cross
the
center
courtyard
in
the
winter,
or
have
a
hassle
of
going
down
into
the
parking
structure
to
get
to
the
other
elevator
lobby
in
the
in
the
North
Building.
So
we
see
it
as
a
a
good
amenity
for
the
residents
so.
J
K
AB
K
W
W
Q
AB
We're
continuing
to
review
it
with
the
city.
Accessibility
committee
got
our
basic
concept
that
we
presented
today
was
that
they
been
on
the
South
building.
There
is
that
primary
building
entry
with
a
elevator
right
there,
so
that
that
can
bring
someone
up
the
three
the
three
feet
at
that
point,
and
it
opens
an
appointment
type
of
thing.
They
could
get
them
in
that
way.
Just.
AC
C
J
AB
A
AD
I
live
at
210,
West,
Grant
and
I
am
a
board
member
of
citizens
for
Loring,
Park,
community
and
I'm,
also
on
the
Land
Use
Committee.
We
are
very
supportive
of
this
project.
With
that
said,
we
do
want
to
stress
importance
of
commercial
uses
along
the
Nicollet,
since
it
is
a
commercial
corridor
with
the
ultimate
future
hope
of
reconnecting
that
community
to
Stephen's
square
bridging
over
the
freeway
as
20
years
of
the
nikah.
A
venire
development
plan,
including
our
met
Council
approved
small
area,
have
promoted
plcp
wants
to
acknowledge
the
development
team.
AD
AD
The
artists
housing
concept
came
from
a
discussion
for
the
need
for
commercial
space
along
Nicholas
and
the
need
for
the
developers
to
deal
with
finance.
It
was
a
win-win
solution.
Adding
a
playground
for
the
children
came
from
the
Minneapolis
police,
their
input
during
the
Nicollet
business
meeting,
when
it
was
found
that
such
an
amenity
for
families
with
missing
also
landscaping
the
stretch
next
to
the
freeway
edge
was
another
community
concern.
We
wanted
to
ensure
that
we
were
addressing
areas
where
crime
could
thrive.
AD
AD
A
F
Or
was
it
hello,
I'm,
Dan,
amici
and
I'm?
The
coordinator
of
CLBC
citizens
for
a
Loring
Park
community,
16:45,
Penofin
avenue
south
suite
204
minneapolis
5
5
403,
just
a
couple
of
extra
points.
I
just
wanted
to
throw
out
at
one
of
the
last
cow
meetings
that
I
was
at
someone
brought
up
the
NIC
that
each
street
streetscape,
and
so
we
were
able
to
get
through
Public
Works,
the
streetscape
guidelines
that
go
from
Grant
Avenue,
all
the
way
to
29th
to
be
cavies.
F
They
can
be
integrated
with
the
project
and
then
I
also
wanted
to
make
just
one
comment
about
the
accessibility
of
the
artist
housing
units
on
Nicollet.
So,
if
you
think
about
the
apartment
buildings
north
on
the
north
end
and
Nicollet,
you
have
three
senior
high-rises,
then
you
have
boots
manner
that
is
adjacent
to
the
park.
Lots
of
seniors
with
differing
accessibility
needs
and
when
we
conversed
with
those
neighbors
and
those
neighbors
brought
information
to
our
board.
They
want
us
to
continue
working
with
the
development
team
on
the
accessibility
of
the
artists
units
along
Nicollet.
F
They
feel
like
if,
for
instance,
their
studio
space
is
facing
Nicollet
and
they
don't
have
access
to
that.
That
it
is
something
they'd
like
us
to
you
to
work
on
if
possible
and
it's
financially
feasible,
and
so
our
board
at
our
last
meeting,
said
that
we
would
bring
this
up
to
the
Commission
as
well.
So
we
will
continue
to
work
with
the
team.
AC
AC
Lastly,
just
you
know
the
the
project
is
at
a
point
where
we
are
a
couple
of
months.
From
closing,
we
have
secured
financing
commitments
for
all
the
financing
with
HUD.
We
have
an
investor:
that's
willing
to
provide
equity
over
of
over
20
20
million
dollars
to
the
project
has
approved
it
in
its
current
state
and
we're
hopeful
that
that
feel
approved
tonight.
A
J
Said
a
question
for
staff:
I
was
looking
at
the
QP
condition
over
to
where
talks
about
me
intend
to
the
mixed-use
density
bonus
and
if
they
weren't
utilizing
the
mixes
density
bonus.
What
other
land
use
applications
are
they
have
been
applying
for
instead,
given
that
that
one
of
the
conditions
is
85
percent
of
the
grounds
for
being
retail
other.
B
J
B
Yeah
before
I
make
a
motion
I
just
wanted
to
provide
a
couple
of
comments,
I
think.
First,
thanks
for
everybody
who
came
out
to
testify,
we
appreciate
that
I
think
for
the
applicants.
We
as
a
Planning
Commission
I,
won't
speak
for
everybody.
Vote
for
myself
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
come
to
committee,
the
hall
twice
to
have
conversations
with
us
about
this
project.
It's
it's
it's
helpful
and,
and
you
know,
I-
think
to
that
sort
of
process
were
able
to
learn
about
the
project
and
some
of
the
issues
with
that.
B
You
know
I
think
there's
two
issues
for
me
that
from
the
first
meeting
on
that
we're
really
big
for
me,
one
being
retail
long,
Nicola
hasn't
changed
and
the
second
being
the
Skyway
I,
don't
really
see
the
purpose
for
it
personally
and
has
always
been
an
issue
from
from
built
form
standpoint.
I
I
do
really
like
the
project.
A
lot
I
think
it
brings
a
lot
of
value
to
that
part
of
the.
B
And
to
Nicollet,
and
so
I
will
be
voting
in
approving
all
the
applications
tonight,
but
personally
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
we
should
be
changing
any
of
the
condition.
I
would
like
to
have
a
conversation
with
other
members
of
the
committee
about
the
85%
I.
Don't
know
if
85%
of
the
ground
floor
is
necessarily
the
right
number.
For
me,
it's
sort
of
85
percent
of
the
frontage
along
Nicollet
is
more
something
that
should
be
applied.
B
I
do
see
some
issues
with
trying
to
fill
out
85%
of
the
entire
ground
floor
and
then
I
also
don't
agree
with
the
live
work.
I,
don't
think
that
that
meets
sort
of
the
intent
of
what
we're
looking
for
from
the
standpoint
of
retail,
so
I
will
be
pushing
forward
or
making
recommendations
on
these
motions
and
potentially
having
conversation
about
changing
that
item
number
two,
but
I
think
that
at
least
from
what
we've
seen
from
staff
is
appropriate.
B
A
W
It
was
a
good
idea
from
commissioners
like
that
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
retail
sorry
about
that.
It's
a
good
call
from
commissioners
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
retail
requirement
here.
It
does
seem
like
me
having
85%
of
the
entire
ground
floor,
would
probably
you
know,
be
undoable,
just
considering
all
the
other
uses
that
they
need
to
fit
in
the
ground
floor
of
the
building
there
I
guess
I'm,
also
kind
of
curious.
What
the
rest
of
the
Commission
thinks
about
that
condition.
W
If
you
wanted
to
get
into
it,
you
could
start
to
talk
about
the
South
building
but
I
think
given
the
grade
change
on
the
site
that
might
start
to
get
kind
of
complicated
for
the
applicant
and
it
is
as
they've
mentioned
it
is,
you
know,
an
affordable
project
and
so
I
think
to
potentially
spend
a
lot
of
money
on
engineering
to
rearrange
the
way.
The
buildings
are
on
the
site
that
might
you
know,
potentially
knock
out
project,
so
I'm
curious
to
see
what
other
people
think
about
it.
Mr.
Q
A
J
Imagine
that
the
living
in
it
itself
with
any
pretty
much
an
efficiency
attached
to
this
workspace,
but
otherwise
I
just
don't
see
it
operating
as
a
traditional
commercial
entity,
which
is
the
intent
I
think
your
traffic
counts
are
down,
but
this
won't
help
them
get
higher.
So
in
attempting
to
kind
of
connect
that
I
think
it
needs
to
be
a
priority.
Oh
and
of
course,
accessibility,
you
know,
let's
not
make
it
so
people
at
the
scheduled
for
things.
Other
people
can
just
walk
up
to
so.
P
I
am
fully
in
line
with
with
requiring
something
approaching
100
percent
retail
frontage
on
the
Nicollet
side
of
the
North
Building
I
think
that
we
can
do
something.
Should
I
have
100
percent
of
that
frontage
to
allow
for
entrances
into
the
residential
areas,
so
a
classic
Department
and
free
in
between
commercial
spaces.
The
commercial
frontage
along
15th,
Street,
I,
seize
139
feet
and
I
buy
my
tally,
the
frontage
that
is,
that
actually
fronts
on
the
sidewalk,
the
North
Building
is
138th
and
four
inches.
P
You've
already
got
that
you
can
just
reorient
and
I
think
make
the
Performa
work,
but
I
do
think
that
has
to
be
retail
there.
You
know
the
the
to
Commissioner
Luke
appears
comment
about
testing
these
live-work
spaces.
I
think
that
we
are
doing
that
the
South
building
by
allowing
that
to
go
forward.
If
that's
the
way
we
go
and
I
think
that
that's
a
good
way
of
testing
this
in
kind
of
a
controlled
fashion-
and
you
know
no
pressure-
I've
told
one
other
developer
who's
testing.
This
idea
now
assuming
the
project
goes
through
appeals.
P
But
you
know
we
haven't
seen
these
function
in
the
city
and
I'm
not
willing
to
roll
the
dice
on
an
entire
block
frontage
on
Nicollet
Avenue
on
that
concept,
but
well
in
12.
That's
a
50%,
a
hen
and
you
know
and
I
think
that's
frankly,
that's
giving
a
giving
you
a
break
because
the
the
FA
are
bonus
in
section
five,
four:
eight,
it
gives
the
bonus
for
50%
of
the
entire
ground
floor
SAR.
P
So
you
know
that
would
be
a
100%
in
one
of
these
buildings
or
something
about
that
assuming
the
two
buildings
are
equivalent
square
footage.
So
you
know
I
think
we're
willing
to
work
with
this
and
I
think
this
is
a
good
project
and
I
think
this
will
add
a
lot
to
the
streetscape.
But
I
think
this
is
an
important
beast
and
it's
one
that
we've
reiterated
and
I
think
we've
got
the
space
and
that
you
can
reorient
and
keep
the
number
of
units
united
moba
live
work
or
just
the
standard
two-bedroom
over
the
fifteenth
Street.
P
A
A
It
seems
like
the
consensuses
is
moving
toward
at
least
requiring
a
majority,
if
not
close
to
all,
of
the
Nicollet
Avenue
frontage
and
by
frontage
I,
think
we
mean
excluding
that
courtyard
area,
but
including
the
the
two
parts
of
the
building
that
actually,
you
know,
form
the
freefall
on
Nicollet
and
we're
maybe
less
concerned
about
the
square
footage
requirement.
I,
don't
know
if
we
wanted
to
eliminate
that
altogether
or
if
we
wanted
to
simply
reduce
it.
A
Q
On
your
comments,
president
round,
that
you
might
want
to
consider
if
you
do
go
with
the
frontage
requirement
that
you
that
we
do
talk
about
that
sort
of
minimum
depth,
because
one
could
imagine
a
scenario
where
somebody
needs
the
frontage
without
at
all
meeting
the
intent
by
doing
some,
you
know
six-foot
deep
space.
That's
that.
C
B
Yeah
I'm
going
to
move
motion,
move
staff
recommendation
for
item
V
conditional
use
permit
for
plan
G
and
development
with
modification
to
condition
number
two
to
read:
comply
with
the
intent
of
mix
use
density
bonus,
not
less
than
85
percent
of
Nicholas
Avenue
frontage.
North
building
she'll
be
dedicated
for
commercial
uses
with
a
minimum
depth
of
50
feet.
A
A
The
lineal
footage
along
Nicollet,
Avenue
or
frontage
along
nicollet
ave
anew,
was
devoted
to
retail
space
and
I
believe
to
clarify.
We
are
excluding
that
courtyard
area
that
faces
east
from
that
from
that
frontage
and
that
those
spaces
are
a
minimum
of
30
feet
deep
all
right
and
we
have
a
second
step.
Okay,
we
have
a
second
now.
Is
there
any
further
discussion
hearing
none
clerk,
please
call
the
roll.
C
N
A
C
A
C
A
A
N
A
That
motion
carries
item
passed
the
site
plan
review.
I
know
the
applicant
had
had
raised
a
concern
about
conditions,
three
related
to
the
principal
entrance,
I'm,
not
sure
that
in
our
questions
to
staff,
we
really
addressed
that
I.
Although
I
didn't
hear
any
comments
from
the
Commission
either
about
that
commissioners
flag
to
give
any
actually
Commissioner
Rockwall,
do
us
something
else.
P
No
I
would
be
inclined
to
allow
and
can
put
such
an
emotion,
but
could
to
allow
the
principal
entrance
to
be
located
greater
than
8
feet
from
property
line,
with
a
condition
that
it
be
sufficiently
lit
pedestrian
scale
lighting
24
hours
a
day.
I
do
think
that
a
lot
of
these
buildings
with
this
design
have
that
kind
of
feature.
All.
P
W
I
wanted
to
add,
I,
think
a
few
conditions,
despite
plan
review,
so
I'll
just
dive
was
come
off
individually.
The
applicant
had
indicated
that
they
would
be
willing
to
ensure
a
DA
access
to
the
live
work
units
along
the
clip.
So
I
just
want
to
add
that,
as
a
condition
phrase
that
so
I
make
a
motion,
the
applicant
shall
ensure
a
DA
access
to
the
Nicollet
Avenue
live
work
units
all.
A
W
A
B
P
C
W
Mean
I
guess
my
concern
that
I
mentioned
earlier
is
that
potentially
we
might
build
a
building
and
then,
if
we
wanted
to
actually
operate
businesses
in
the
space,
if
they
go
to
get
a
business
license,
you
know
there
might
be
issues
with
mixing
the
residential
interior
parts
of
the
building,
with
potentially
whether
it's
a
business
space.
I
guess,
if
you're
going
to
be
moving
customers
in
and
out
of
those
hallways
I.
P
D
D
C
D
D
D
C
D
W
I
guess
I
see
the
concern
a
little
bit
more.
The
math
issue
there
so
I
will
withdraw
that
motion.
Sorry
for
the
confusion
there,
but
I'd
also
like
to
add
maybe
an
easier
condition
that
the
app
can
shall
provide
electricity
to
the
bus,
shelter
that
will
be
reconstructed
on
the
south
side
of
the
site.
There.
A
A
AC
Audio
thank
you
for
allowing
me
respond
to
that.
We've
been
working
with
Metro
Transit
to
provide
the
infrastructure
for
the
electricity
for
the
bus.
Stop
we're
willing
to
do
that.
I
think
what
I
do
want
to
clarify
is
that
the
project
will
not
be
required
to
pay
the
expense
for
the
number
of
years
for
the
actual
electricity
bill
for
the
for
the
bus
stop,
we
will
provide
the
infrastructure
for
the
electricity
to
the
bus,
stop
of
as
part
of
a
project
cost
all
right.
A
W
Or
Magritte
one
last
one:
sorry
I
live
down
the
street
from
this
time,
paying
extra
close
attention
to
it.
I
do
live
on
15th,
and
that
is
not
a
great
Street
for
pedestrians
and
cyclists.
People
go
pretty
fast
down
the
street,
so
I'd
like
to
add
a
condition
of
approval
that
we
bump
out
the
corner
at
the
corner
of
15th
and
Nicollet
right.
There.
A
Okay,
we
have
a
motion,
and
a
second
to
for
the
applicant
to
work
with
Public
Works
to
add
a
bump
out
to
the
corner
of
15th
and
Nicollet,
provided
that
Public
Works
approves
of
that
is
there
any
further
discussion?
I
might
also
ask
the
applicant
if
there
any
major
concerns
with
with
that
we're,
leaving
that
a
little
bit
open-ended,
but
wanted
to
give
you
an
opportunity
if
you
can
come
to
the
microphone.
That
would
be
great.
AA
All
right,
Jesse
Mayer,
with
pkv
group,
we
have
had
meetings
with
Public
Works
and
there
was
some
discussion
about
the
bump
outs
on
the
corner
and
I
I.
Don't
think
that
there's
planning
yet
for
that
to
happen
at
that
particular
location,
we
are
providing
some
infrastructure
for
there's
some
ad,
a
special
signaling
that
they're
planning
so
in
providing
infrastructure
for
that.
But
I'm
not
I.
Don't
think
that
the
bump
outs
are
part
of
the
planning
for
that
corner.
They
make.
It
still
may
be
playable.
If
there's
a
recommendation
here,
though,
thank
you.
A
All
right
is
there
any
further
discussion
on
that.
We
can
at
least
propose
that
there's
another
conversation
about
that
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
any
opposed,
and
that
motion
carries
all
right,
so
I
think
we
could
have
to
go
back
to
our
original
motion.
Is
there
any
further
discussion
on
the
original
motion?
Now
we
have
amended
condition.
Three
we've
added.
Eighth
and
ninth
condition
is.