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Description
Minneapolis Public Safety & Emergency Management Committee Meeting
A
Good
afternoon
welcome
to
the
public
Emergency
Management
Committee
meeting.
My
name
is
Steve
Fletcher
I'm,
the
vice
chair
of
this
committee
and
I'll,
be
chairing
today's
meeting
in
the
absence
of
our
chair
council
member
Connor,
who
is
absent
as
she's
attending
two
other
City
business
with
that
I'll
call
this
regular
meeting
to
order
I'll
note
that
I'm
joined
at
the
dais
by
Public
Safety
and
emergency
management
committee
members,
cunningham
Palmisano,
vice
president
jenkins
and
councilmember
allison,
and
also
by
a
councilmember
straighter
thanks
for
joining
us.
A
A
I
recommend
that
we
take
public
comments
as
the
first
action
on
that
item
before
we
receive
the
report
from
staff
and
I'd
like
to
take
a
quick
voice
vote
on
that
proposal
to
amend
the
agenda
to
allow
for
public
comments
for
a
period
of
up
to
30
minutes
on
the
ketamine
report,
which
is
item
number
five.
So
any
discussion
on
that
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
all
opposed
that
carries,
and
the
agenda
has
been
amended
with
that.
I'd
now
like
to
address
those
who
are
here
to
speak
to
the
ketamine
report.
A
If
you
are
here
to
speak
to
that
issue,
I
invite
you
to
register
your
name
with
the
clerk
Kelly.
Please
raise
your
hand,
so
that
folks
know
who
you
are.
We
will
take
speakers
in
the
order
they
are
registered,
so
please
sign
up
with
the
clerk
so
that
we
can
proceed
in
an
orderly
fashion.
Each
speaker
will
be
recognized
for
up
to
three
minutes.
If
we
have
any
time
remaining,
we
will
open
the
floor
to
additional
comments
and
with
that
I
will
move
on
I'm.
A
Sorry
and
I'll
also
note
that
if
you
prefer
not
to
speak
today
but
would
like
to
submit
your
written
commentary,
we
welcome
that
as
well.
You
can
give
any
written
comments
you
have
to
the
clerk
and
she
will
ensure
that
your
written
comments
are
provided
to
all
councilmembers
and
are
included
in
the
public
record.
Also,
if
you
have
any
materials
to
submit
on
this
subject,
please
also
give
those
to
the
clerk,
so
we
can
ensure
copies,
are
provided
to
all
council
members
and
are
also
included
in
the
public
record.
A
If
you
see
anybody
who
needs
interpretation,
please
direct
them
to
Nick
in
the
back
and
we'll
make
sure
to
have
interpretive
assistance
for
them.
For
this
meeting,
and
thank
you,
everyone
with
that
well
welcome
everyone
to
register
with
the
clerk
to
speak
on
item
number
five
and
colleagues
while
they
begin
to
do
that.
We'll
continue
with
the
agenda
we'll
begin
today
with
the
consent
agenda,
which
includes
three
items.
A
A
B
C
B
D
A
D
B
Proceed
all
right
so
the
corresponding
program.
The
purpose
of
that
is
to
have
the
opportunity
for
a
patrol
officer
to
work
directly
with
a
mental
health
provider
when
responding
to
calls.
So
this
group,
it's
a
pilot
project,
and
there
are
two
teams.
Both
teams
actually
physically
operate
out
of
the
fifth
Precinct,
which
is
in
the
southwest
community,
and
they
respond
to
calls
in
the
third
Precinct
which
covers
south
Minneapolis
and
the
southwest
fifth
Precinct.
So
these
two
teams
are
able
to
go
out
and
respond
to
911
calls
involving
emotionally
disturbed
persons.
B
They
are
formally
called
EDP
calls
through
the
911
system,
so
I'll
be
referring
to
those
calls.
As
such,
the
team
is
really
able
to
provide
a
comprehensive
service
to
those
that
are
in
the
midst
of
mental
health
crisis
and
they're
able
to
work
in
tandem
in
assisting
their
clients
that
they
come
across
out
on
the
street.
The
two
teams
they
work,
side-by-side
Monday
through
Friday
from
10:00
a.m.
until
6:00
p.m.
and
in
doing
so
obviously
they're
not
available
24/7.
B
What
they
do
do
in
order
to
fill
that
gap?
Is
they
every
Monday
morning?
They
review
all
the
911
calls
for
service
that
have
occurred
and
the
third
Precinct
and
in
the
fifth
Precinct,
and
in
doing
so
they
do
follow-up
on
those
calls,
so
whether
it
means
actually
physically
going
out
to
a
home
or
making
a
telephone
call,
they
always
make
every
effort
to
go
and
make
sure
that
they've
had
additional
contact,
so
they're
able
to
provide
resources
or
perhaps
even
going
out
to
the
person's
home
and
doing
an
assessment
right
on
scene.
B
So
we
find
that
people
are
calling
more
frequently
because
they
have
that
comfort
level
now,
which
is
a
good
thing.
Another
goal
was
to
really
reduce
the
amount
of
time
that
a
routine
patrol
officer
would
be
spent
on
these
EDP
calls.
So
what
happens
is
when
an
EDP
call
is
a
dispatch
tune
through
9-1-1
we'll
have
officers
responding
that
are
to
officers
in
a
squad
car.
That's
just
standard
procedure
that
a
two-person
squad
would
respond
to
EDP
calls,
so
they
continue
to
respond
while
at
the
same
time
dispatch
will
notify
the
correspondent
Eames.
B
B
Another
goal
is,
of
course
we
want
to
keep
people
in
the
community.
The
jail
is
no
place
for
people
that
are
struggling
with
mental
illness.
The
hospital,
although
at
times,
is
really
helpful
for
folks.
That
has
not
always
the
ideal
location
for
people
either.
We
do
have
situations
where
people
are
requests
to
go
to
the
hospital,
and
certainly
we
want
to
do
whatever
we
can
for
the
clients,
but
often
times,
that's
not
necessary
and
they're
better
served
to
be
in
the
community
being
able
to
do
that.
B
On-Scene
assessment,
then,
is
something
that
would
normally
be
done
it
in
the
hospital
setting.
We
take
that
out
of
the
equation:
do
it
in
the
home
and
help
people
be
able
to
stay
in
their
own
homes
and
out
in
the
community.
Then
another
goal
is
to
reduce
the
use
of
force
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
no
one
is
injured.
When
responding
to
these
calls,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
community
members
are
safe
and
that
those
that
are
responding
are
safe
as
well.
B
The
co
responders
again
are
really
a
fantastic
resource
that,
in
the
past,
was
not
available
to
people
out
in
the
community.
People
tend
to
call
9-1-1
when
they're
looking
for
that
immediate
response,
they
need
something
they
need
some
support
immediately.
They
can't
call
a
number
and
wait
to
go
missing
by
the
hospital
or
be
seen
by
a
clinician
at
a
later
time.
They
need
help
right
away.
B
B
Didn't
add
the
fact
that
the
officers
that
are
responding
to
these
calls
they're
not
in
uniform
so
they're
in
what
we
would
call
a
soft,
uniform
they've
got
a
polo
shirt
and
they've
got
just
regular
blue
navy
pants
and
that's
how
they
respond.
They
do
still
have
their
utility
belt
on,
but
we
want
to
set
them
apart
physically,
so
that
community
members
recognize
right
away
that
they
are
not
regular
police
officers.
These
are
specialized
team.
In
addition
to
that,
we
have
them
operating
out
of
an
unmarked
squad.
B
So
when
it
is
a
slower
day,
they're
able
to
take
the
time
to
actually
go
out
and
do
follow
up
whether
it's
follow
up
on
a
call
that
they
weren't
able
to
get
to
because
that
occurred
overnight.
Or
perhaps
it's
a
call
that
someone
has
made
a
phone
call
or
sent
an
email
in
to
the
team
oftentimes
to
were
getting
calls
from
community
members
that
are
familiar
with
the
program.
Family
members
and
officers
themselves
that
have
come
across
people
out
in
the
community.
B
That
would
really
benefit
from
the
services
that
the
correspond
team
can
do
for
them.
They
attend
community
meetings,
and
just
today
they
were
telling
me
that
they
had
provided
some
services
had
a
mental
health
facility
in
the
past
and
they
came
out
and
spoke
with
the
residents,
as
well
as
the
staff
members
about
the
job
that
they
do.
So
that
was
exciting
for
them
to
do
for
the
whole
organization.
B
So
the
core
responders
that
pretend
that
they
respond
to
a
call.
They
fill
out
some
paperwork
for
us.
Of
course,
the
mental
health
providers
have
a
lot
of
extensive
paperwork
that
they
do
and
not
presenting
that
material.
That's
all
HIPPA
classified
material,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
when
I
not
previously
with
councilmember
cutting
him,
he
had
a
really
good
point
who's
making
these
calls
and
looking
for
assistance
for
the
community
members
that
are
in
facing
mental
health
crisis
and
the
largest
percentage
friends
and
family.
B
Those
are
the
ones
that
are
recognizing
when
there
are
issues
at
hand
and
when
people
are
having.
You
know
a
tough
time
of
it,
they're
the
ones
that
are
making
the
bulk
of
these
calls.
Also,
in
proceeding
those
numbers,
we've
got
service
providers
and
then
some
of
the
shelters
or
halfway
houses
that
are
also
calling
on
their
clients.
B
They
all
have
issues
with
mental
illness,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
able
to
serve
all
communities,
and
we
can
say
that
we
have
been
able
to
effectively
work
with
every
community
that
we've
been
aute
and
responding
to
calls
for.
So
some
of
the
data
that's
been
collected,
so
the
program
just
started
last
September
and
I
wanted
to
provide
you
with
just
some
of
that
information
too.
They
responded
to
326
contacts
and
during
that
time,
for
him
from
that
would
be
from
September.
B
Just
through
this
past
April
277
of
those
calls
were
for
adults
and
then
49
of
the
calls
were
for
juveniles,
so
they
actually
I
didn't
recognize
the
fact
that
we'd
have
so
much
opportunity
to
work
closely
with
a
lot
of
other
agencies
with
this
program
too.
So
it's
been
exciting
to
be
welcomed
into
a
lot
of
different
facilities
and
working
closely
with
the
public
school
system
as
well.
When
they're,
seeing
kids
in
crisis
were
able
to
help.
B
There
were
109
assessments
conducted
by
our
cope,
mental
health
providers,
and
in
doing
so
again
that
would
be
treatment
that
people
might
receive
at
a
clinicians
office
or
at
a
hospital.
We
heard
it
right
just
ready
and
available
to
do
it
right
on-site.
There
was
one
incident
out
of
the
326
contacts
that
we've
made.
There
was
one
incident
involving
a
use
of
force,
and
in
that
situation
the
client
had
missed
a
medication
dosage
and
officer
the
officer
and
the
mental
health
provider
actually
called
off
the
responding
officers
because
they
are
familiar
with
the
site.
B
It
was
a
location
where
some
residents
there
they'll
they
struggle
with
mental
illness
and
so
in
responding.
The
officer
was
talking
to
the
client
and
the
client
was
very
upset
and
and
actually
went
after
the
officer
and
the
officer
had
to
put
put
him
down
onto
the
ground
and
put
handcuffs
on,
and
please
note,
though
he
did
not
go
to
jail.
B
B
The
recommendation
that
I
have
today
is
that
we
expand
this
program
I'm,
going
to
make
sure
that
it
continues
in
the
3rd
and
the
5th
precinct
where
we
have
60%
of
the
calls
for
service
are
in
the
third
Precinct
again
the
Southside,
the
fifth
Precinct,
covering
Southwest
and
downtown
60%
of
all
of
our
EBP
calls.
So
I'd
really
like
to
expand
this
program
beyond
3s
and
5s
and
bring
it
into
the
first
precinct.
So
we
can
help
a
significant
number
of
people
that
are
millions
in
the
downtown
community
as
well.
A
E
You
mr.
chair
and
thank
you
inspector
I
actually
didn't
recognize
you
at
first,
not
in
uniform,
so
well.
Thank
you
so
much
for
this
presentation
to
share
with
folks
here.
I
actually
am
the
one
who
request
requested
this
presentation,
because
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
staying
plugged
into
the
work,
that's
happening
at
the
pilot
and
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we're
understanding
how
it's
being
implemented
in
the
impact
that
it's
making
so
I
actually
have
a
few
few
questions,
but
I'll
also
start
with
with
a
two-part
one.
E
The
first
is
so
when
I.
What
I've
heard
from
you
is
that
the
process
is
when
there's
a
an
EDP
call
that
a
traditional
squad
with
two
folks
will
the
two
officers
will
go
out:
do
they
go
out
with
their
lights
and
sirens
on
for
an
EDP
call
the
cause?
You
talked
about
the
co
responders,
not
doing
that.
But
what
about
the
initial
call
sure.
B
That's
a
very
good
question.
You
know
if
there's
an
immediate
need
for
their
quick
response,
say,
for
example,
if
someone's
holding
a
knife
to
their
neck
or
if
somebody
has
got
a
weapon
and
they're
threatening
to
injure
somebody
else
or
themselves,
then
the
primary
squad
that
two-person
squad
would
respond
code
3
to
that
call.
E
The
initial
responding
officers
are
essentially
making
the
call
as
to
whether
or
not
a
co
responder
is
needed,
for
that
particular
call.
What
mechanisms
really
are
in
place
to
help
prevent
those
officers
becoming
gatekeepers
to
the
services,
because
you
had
mentioned,
you
know
that
folks
are
just
kind
of
skipping
over
now
and
calling
directly
to
them,
but
that's
really
based
on
personality,
not
policy.
So
I
was
just
curious.
If
you
could
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
mechanisms
to
help
prevent
that
gatekeeping
sure.
B
Absolutely
so
they
monitor
both
radio
channels
for
a
portion
of
the
day,
both
the
third
and
the
fifth
Precinct
trying
the
same
radio
channel.
So
they
just
want
to
train
the
one,
but
then,
as
the
day
progresses
they
go
into
different
radio
channels.
They
do
monitor
those
as
well
as
having
their
squad
computer,
that
they
can
remove
from
their
squad
and
put
at
their
desk.
B
F
Well,
thank
you
very
much
and
appreciate
you
letting
me
participate
in
the
committee.
This
is
something
that
I
was
very
interested
in
and
I'm
still
very
interested
in
getting.
It
started,
I'm
curious
about
the
pie,
chart
and
149
people
who
remained
at
home
and
how
that
might
compare
to
some
kind
of
a
control
group
or
maybe
what
happened
in
other
precincts
or
what
was
happening
in
these
precincts
prior
to
that.
The
fact
that
there
were
no
arrests
makes
me
think
this
has
been
successful.
F
B
B
In
a
recent
case,
we
had
a
young
man
that
was
talking
about
killing
himself
with
a
kitchen
knife,
and
so,
but
the
team
does
then
is
they
help
problem-solve
with
not
only
the
client
himself
but
also
with
the
entire
family,
and
they
were
able
to
provide
them
with
a
lockbox.
So
you
know
we
didn't
want
them
to
lose
all
of
the
knives
in
the
home
because
they
need
their
knives
and
cutlery
for
their
day-to-day
tasks
in
the
home.
B
So
they
were
able
to
give
them
a
lockbox
to
put
all
of
the
knives
inside
the
lockbox
and
that's
so.
This
is
common
practice
of
what
they
do
and
I
would
say
frequently
in
a
situation
similar
to
that
officers
might
feel
as
those
the
safety
safest
environment
for
that
person,
because
they
are
struggling
with
suicidal
ideation
and
considering
a
method
as
to
how
they
might
kill
themselves.
F
Well,
that
certainly
sounds
very
positive
and
excellent
and
I'm
curious
if
the
PDP
calls
are
flagged
and
other
in
our
system.
If
we
could
look
at
how
things
have
gone
in
the
fourth
precinct
or
the
second
precinct
in
terms
of
EDP
calls
and
compare
it
with
the
pilot
areas
that
might
give
us
an
indication
what.
G
F
H
You
mr.
chair
I
think
it's
important
to
remember
that
this
program
began
with
a
lot
of
community
advocates,
some
of
whom
continued
to
remain
involved
like
stamp
the
Barbara,
Schneider,
Foundation
and
I.
Remember
a
lot
of
I,
remember
a
very
late
evening
in
the
Civil
Rights
offices,
with
councilmember
Gordon,
chief
Harrington
people
from
multi
jurisdictions,
Hennepin,
County,
Attorney's
and
court
workers
and
people
who
really
wanted
to
help
solve
this
issue.
H
I
also
really
greatly
appreciate
think
we
all
appreciate
the
personal
investment
that
you've
taken
an
interest
that
you've
taken
in
this
as
a
pilot
and
you're
helping
getting
it
off
the
ground.
I
wanted
to
also
acknowledge
that,
while
we
can't
really
take
a
motion
that
goes
into
the
budget,
yet
the
councilmember,
Gordon
and
I
feel
strongly
about
this
project
and
and
will
continue
to
work
on
it
and
try
to
make
it
more
more
than
a
pilot
and
expand
it
to
more
of
the
city
as
it's
needed.
I
am
curious.
H
My
one
small
question
is
simply
on
the
hours.
Do
you
find
that
the
hours
10
a.m.
to
6
p.m.
are
the
best
hours
based
on
I
assume?
It
was
based
on
data
and
when
these
reports
come
in
I
also
happen
to
know
from
the
nine
on
one
presentations
that
the
busiest
hour
for
9
1
1
is
3
to
4
p.m.
and
that
may
be.
This
also
coincides
then
nicely
with
schools.
But
could
you
share
a
little
bit
about
why
the
hours
are
so
as
such
and
what
it
might
take
to
run
a
24-hour
operation?
Sure.
B
Those
hours
were
selected
for
a
few
different
reasons,
so
initially
Monday
through
Friday,
the
for
service
that
come
in
that's
generally,
when
they're
coming
in
that's
when
the
bulk
of
those
9-1-1
calls
for
EDP
services.
That's
when
they're
happening
in
addition
to
that,
the
bulk
of
the
calls,
as
far
as
time
of
day
are
generally
from
11:00
a.m.
until
about
9:00
p.m.
B
They
work
an
eight-hour
shift
because
I
just
get
more
hours
from
people
when
we
do
that
and
I'm
sure
they
would
love
tens,
but
I
would
prefer
keeping
them.
You
know
boots
on
the
ground
one
more
day
a
week.
I
think
that's
pretty
valuable,
I
think
in
the
future.
If
we
were
to
provide
a
24-hour
service,
I
think
that
would
be
fantastic
in
the
entire
city
would
be
my
preference,
and
if
we
were
to
do
that,
we
would
need
a
significant
number
of
personnel
to
do
that.
To
make
it
happen.
B
Considering
days
off
and
such
you'd
have
to
build
a
really
significantly
sized
unit
of
both
patrol
officers
as
well
as
mental
health
providers,
but
if
we
could
just
bring
it
to
all
the
precincts
I
think
it's
there's
a
critical
need
out
in
the
community.
These
911
calls
will
continue
to
come
in
whether
we
have
this
program
or
not,
and
there
is
a
significant
gap
in
services
provided
to
this
community
that
we're
getting
called
upon
to
provide
either
way.
Why
not
bring
in
additional
resources
to
really
serve
the
community?
J
I
B
B
B
I
E
E
It's
it
makes
me
wonder
how
many
folks
are
going
to
jail
in
North
Minneapolis,
rather
than
getting
the
support
that
they
need
like
they
might
be
getting
through
this
coal
responder
model,
and
so
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
explain
why
it's
not
being
proposed
to
be
expanded
to
North
Minneapolis
and
also
is
there
a
plan,
long-term
plan
or
/,
and
also
how
much
would
it
cost
to
expanded
to
the
4th
precinct?
Cuz
I
know
that's
needed,
and
that
is
really
really
wanted.
Absolutely.
B
It
would
be
valuable
for
all
the
precincts
and,
having
worked
quite
a
bit
on
the
north
side,
I
would
I
would
love
to
bring
it
to
the
nursing
community
as
well.
So
originally,
the
pilot
was
in
the
third
precinct
in
the
5th
precinct,
because
that's
where
the
bulk
of
the
calls
were
at
that
time
again,
60%
of
all
the
calls
for
EVPs
are
occurring
in
a
threes
fives
in
downtown.
So
there's
just
a
smaller
volume
of
calls.
That's
why
it
wasn't
originally
brought
to
the
north
side
and
North
East.
Is
there
a
need?
B
Absolutely
there's
a
need
nationwide
for
programs
such
as
these
and
I
would
love
to
see
it
happen
as
far
as
the
contract
goes.
Originally,
it
was
built
on
providing
the
resources
for
just
the
two
mental
health
providers.
I
would
say
how
much
would
it
cost
us
I
can't
tell
you
exactly
it
to
look
into
that,
because
we'd
have
to
consider
the
staff
from
MPD,
as
well
as
the
staff
from
cope
and
the
other
resources
needed,
such
as
just
the
office
space,
the
squads
and
computers.
We
can
make
it
happen,
though.
I
would.
E
Love
to
see
that
you
know
I
I
know
that
the
data
shows
a
concentration
in
another
part
of
town,
but
you
know,
and
you've
been
up
there
on
the
north
side
I'm
concerned
about
what
kind
of
how
is
it
being
coded
out?
Are
we
you
know?
Is
there
bias
that's
getting
in
the
way
of
seeing
folks?
You
know
black
and
brown
folks
as
going
like
an
EDP
call.
So
I
I
have
some
further
questions
about
that,
but
I
look
into
that.
A
K
Folks
might
not
be
calling
and
saying
that
that's
what
they're
experiencing
that
that's
what
their
families
experiencing
and
so
making
sure
that
we
have
a
way
to
councilmember
Cunningham's
point
to
sort
of
coach
people
in
learning
that
they
can't
call
for
that
reason,
because
I
have
a
hard
time,
believing
that
you
know
folks
are
just
suffering
less
with
you
know,
with
mental
health
in
those
neighborhoods
and
more
you
know.
My
experience
tells
me
that
more
that
stigma
is
preventing
folks
from
reaching
out
for
that
kind
of
service.
K
B
And
below
definitely
look
into
copse
numbers
as
well,
because
people
are
are
calling
cope
separately
from
calling
9-1-1,
and
that
is
another
resource
that
people
are.
You
know
they're
utilizing
everyday,
so
we
can
look
at
their
numbers
too,
because
that's
gonna
tell
you,
give
you
kind
of
a
different
perspective
on
when
people
are
calling
aside
from
911.
B
A
Inspector
wait,
it
sounded
like
you
were
saying
that
as
part
of
the
cost,
we
would
need
to
consider
additional
patrol
officers
as
well
as
the
co
responders.
Can
you
explain
why?
That
would
be,
because
it
seems
like
there
would
already
there
would
be
a
squad
responding
to
a
911
call
in
the
absence
of
a
co
responder
program.
So
why
why
the
budget
need
for
additional
patrol
officers,
because.
B
The
correspond
the
mental
health
provider
needs
a
partner,
and
so
that's
how
they
that's,
how
they
work.
They
work
as
a
team,
the
mental
health
provider
alongside
that
police
officer,
and
it's
a
really
unique
situation
in
that
they're
operating
in
a
squad,
car
working
side
by
side
for
their
entire
shift,
and
so
we
need
that
body
to
fill
that
gap.
Well,
there
are
always
be
another.
The
patrol
staff,
the
two-person
squad,
responding,
like
you,
said,
that's
the
kind
of
the
protocol.
F
You
very
much
and
in
the
presentation
they
don't,
we
can
see,
but
it
wasn't
I
guess
shared.
The
recommendation
is
to
add
one
team
to
include
one
precinct
and
it
includes
an
AA
police
officer,
a
mental
health,
professional,
a
squad,
car,
two
computers
and
a
phone.
Do
you
happen
to
know
what
the
total
cost
of
that
is
and.
B
G
F
Get
you
that
information
well,
that
would
be
excellent,
and
that
would
also
give
us
an
indication
about
what
we
think
it
would
be
to
add
team
per
precinct
because
there'll
be
a
definite
cost
we
could
assist
by
then,
and
we
could
also
I
guess.
My
other
question
is:
if
there
was
the
funding
available
to
add
to
precincts,
would
we
have
the
capacity
to
hire
train
and
equip
those
teams
next
year?
Absolutely
okay?
So
it's
mostly
a
funding
issue
up
in
terms
of
expanding
it.
Yes,
sir,
okay,
thank
you.
A
A
A
We
already
have
many
people
registered
and
if
there
are
folks
here
who
wish
to
speak
on
this
topic
and
have
it
yet
registered,
please
do
so
now
with
the
clerk
Kelly
and
again,
if
you
prefer
to
submit
written
comments
rather
than
speaking
today,
you
can
give
those
written
comments
to
the
clerk
the
clerk
has
forms
available
for
folks
to
use.
If
you
would
prefer
to
submit
written
comments.
A
Each
speaker
will
three
minutes
to
begin,
although
we
have
I
think
more
than
ten
people
who
want
to
speak
so
out
of
consideration
to
everybody
else
where
we're
budgeting
a
half
an
hour.
So
please
try
to
keep
your
comments
brief,
to
the
extent
that
they
can.
We
have
a
timer
set
up
and
we
will
make
use
of
it,
and
then
we
ask
each
person
surrender
the
podium
when
their
time
is
expired
before
I
call.
A
The
first
speaker
I
do
want
to
note
that
the
report
that
we're
going
to
receive
today
is
merely
to
provide
an
update.
This
was
something
that
we
didn't
feel
it
was
appropriate
to
have
a
public
safety
meeting
with
this
being
the
topic
on
everybody's
mind
without
having
some
discussion
about
it.
But
there
is
no
action
expected
to
result
from
the
report
of
this
committee
today.
A
I'll
note
that
on
Monday,
the
public
health,
environment,
civil
rights
and
engagement
committee
did
give
a
staff
direction
to
have
the
office
of
police
conduct
review,
complete
its
report
and
to
return
in
July
with
its
findings,
so
that
work
will
continue.
That
action
has
been
taken,
and
today's
status
report
is
to
give
this
committee,
which
addresses
Public
Safety,
a
better
understanding
of
where
we
are
today
on
the
use
of
ketamine
and
policy
changes
by
the
police
chief.
As
a
result
of
the
draft
report.
I
C
Gross
I'm,
president
of
Communities,
united
against
police
brutality
and
council
members
and
chair
fletcher.
We
want
to
talk
today
a
little
bit
about
our
own
experiences
related
to
this
particular
issue.
Of
course,
drugging
of
people
we're
concerned
both
with
the
course
drugging
aspect,
as
well
as
the
particular
use
of
this
particular
drug.
C
What
I
want
to
mention
is
we
have
a
24-hour
hotline
people
call
our
hotline
frequently
with
cases
of
what
they
consider
to
be
police
brutality,
and
a
few
years
ago
we
started
to
hear
about
people
telling
us
that
the
police
made
them
drug
us.
This
kind
of
thing-
and
you
start
to
hear
these
things
and
at
first
you
think
you've
got
to
be
kidding
me.
You
know
it
doesn't
even
seem
credible,
but
bit
by
bit.
C
We
began
to
hear
more
and
more
these
cases,
and
when
people
come
to
us-
and
you
know,
call
our
hotline
and
so
forth,
they
we
then
invite
them
to
a
meeting.
They
get
to
tell
their
whole
story
to
us,
and
then
we
begin
to
do
work
on
that
case
and
what
people
have
been
have
told
us
pretty
consistently.
Is
that
the
incidents
where
in
which
they
were
coercively
injected
involved
verbal
disagreements,
verbal
objection
to
the
police
conduct
that
they
were
experiencing,
but
not
physical
resistance?
And
so
this
was
a
deep
concern
to
us.
C
These
were
people
that
were
strapped
down
on
a
gurney
had
been
injured
and
things
like
that
and
then
the
other
component
that
we
heard
about,
which
was
deeply
concerning,
is
that
these
people
would
wake
up
hours
later
in
a
hospital
or
in
a
jail
cell
injured,
but
not
remembering
how
they
were
injured.
So
that
is
of
deep
concern,
because
the
particular
drug
ketamine
does
have
an
amnesiac
effect,
and
so
it
makes
people
forget
what
happened
to
them.
You
know,
which
is
a
pretty
appalling.
C
This
to
us
represents
a
violation
of
people's
constitutional
rights,
particularly
you
know
the
Fourth
Amendment
right
to
privacy
and
the
and
the
right
that
a
nurse
from
that
which
is
the
witches
under
the
patient,
Bill
of
Rights
the
right
to
refuse
care,
and
we
have
a
very
strong
patient
Bill
of
Rights
in
Minnesota
Minnesota
statute,
one
for
4.65
one.
If
anybody
wants
to
look
it
up
and
that
you
know,
people
who
are
able
to
articulate
should
not
be
given
drugs
forcibly
against
their
will.
That's
a
deep
concern
to
us.
C
We
see
this
as
being
very
connected
to
the
previous
presentation
which,
by
the
way,
thank
you
for
that
presentation
and
for
the
very
thoughtful
questions
that
happened.
You
know
we
see
this
as
deeply
related
to
that.
We
support
the
demand
for
or
the
community
demand,
really
for
all
for
not
just
Co
responder
models,
but
eventually,
hopefully
an
alternate
responder
model
for
most
calls,
and
so
we
are
really
pleased
about
that.
But
the
question
then
becomes
you
know
if
these
people
are
having
you
know
mental
health
issues
or
there's
some
kind
of
thing
going
on?
C
Why
are
they
being
forcibly
objected
ejected
rather
rather
than
being
addressed
in
a
mental
health
capacity?
And
so
that's
of
deep
concern
to
us
again.
You
know
our
experiences
show
that
this
is
perhaps
more
widespread,
even
than
that
report
acknowledges
and
so
finally,
our
kin,
our
call
is
for
an
independent
investigation,
and
that
means
a
nest
of
an
investigation
outside
of
internal
affairs
and
even
outside
of
the
OPC,
our
which
has
done
a
great
job.
You
know,
allegedly
with
this
report.
C
L
L
Big
question
is
what
was
happening
in
between
the
chief
says
that
he
first
heard
about
this
in
mid
May
of
this
year.
Soon,
after
that,
he
issued
a
new
and
much
improved
policy.
That
much
is
good,
but
was
the
chief
truly
unaware
all
that
time?
If
so,
the
communication
and
the
police
department
is
badly
broken,
were
all
the
officers
and
their
immediate
supervisors
just
unaware
that
this
might
perhaps
be
a
controversial
practice.
Did
it
never
go
up
the
chain
of
command,
and
likewise
the
communication
with
the
council,
particularly
as
committee,
is
badly
broken.
L
If
something
like
this
has
been
going
on
for
at
least
six
years,
it
shouldn't
come
to
us
from
the
Star
Tribune.
The
OPC
R
was
clearly
made
aware
of
this
before
mid
May
of
this
year.
I
understand
there
were
concerns
raised
before
the
beginning
of
this
year,
but
the
public
heard
nothing
until
the
draft
report
was
leaked
to
the
public
through
the
Star
Tribune
and
in
the
meantime,
this
practice
continued.
L
What's
going
on
here,
there's
a
serious
breakdown,
an
oversight
which,
frankly,
does
not
surprise
me.
Given
the
history
of
the
OPC
are
the
Minneapolis
Police
Department
and
the
City
Council,
you
say
you
won't
be
taking
any
actions
today,
but
I
would
strongly
urge
you
to
take
one
action,
one
directive
that
could
be
done
by
this
committee
immediately,
and
that
is
even
as
you
wait
for
the
final
report,
you
should
direct
the
OPC
R
and
the
Minneapolis
Police
Department
to
proactively
notify
the
people
who
were
injected
with
ketamine.
L
That's
the
very
nature
of
a
date-rape
drug
I.
Don't
think
it's
a
good
for
the
city
to
sit
back
and
wait
for
lawsuits
to
be
filed,
though
I'm
sure
there
will
be
councilmember.
Schrader
was
quoted
in
the
paper
to
the
effect
of
your
responsibility
as
to
the
people
of
the
city,
not
to
the
the
city,
government
and
I
think
this
is
a
point
where
you
could
illustrate
that
in
a
very
dramatic
fashion
by
proactively
contacting
people
and
letting
them
know
what
happened
to
them,
release
the
records.
Thank
you
very
much.
M
M
He
lived
in
North
Minneapolis,
a
couple
of
blocks
from
where
Jamar
Clark
was
killed
and
just
because
he
was
biracial,
they
would
never
take
him
to
detox.
I
took
him
to
hospital
several
times
and
they
wouldn't
even
keep
him.
They
put
him
in
a
padded
cell.
I
talked
with
a
social
worker
called
there
at
7:00
in
the
morning
and
they
released
them.
They
would
not
keep
him
in
the
hospital
that
we
need
more
mental
health
in
criminal
justice
reform
people
with
substance,
abuse
problems
and
mental
health
just
deteriorate
in
jail.
M
That's
all
they
do
is
deteriorate
and
we
need
help.
We
need
help
for
mental
health
and
substance,
abuse
and
affordable
housing.
He
had
to
live
there
because
of
a
minor
criminal
record.
He
never
was
a
drug
dealer.
He
never
was
a
sex
offender.
It
was
always
minor
offenses,
because
he'd
always
have
a
public
defender.
That
would
tell
him
to
plead
guilty
and
he
went
to
jail
many
times.
They'd
even
called
me
that
in
tell
me
he
was
having
panic
attacks.
I
got
him
a
lawyer,
a
mental
health
worker.
They
would
not
do
anything.
M
M
N
I'm
Loretta
Van,
Pelt
and
I'm,
with
Twin
Cities
Coalition
for
justice
for
Jamar,
and
if
this
was
anything,
our
demand
has
always
been
for
community
control.
The
police-
and
this
has
very
much
been
an
example
of
why
we
need
that.
Why
we
need
that
now
because
to
find
out
that
sit
like
our
neighbors,
our
family
members
are
getting
drugged
by
police
is
just
wrong
and
we
demand
transparency.
We
want
more
than
just
a
little
report.
We
demand
transparency.
N
We
want
to
know
who
did
who
ordered
those
who
ordered
people
to
get
shut
up,
ketamine
why-why-why
for
the
driver.
They
said,
why
did
they
make
that
decision
and
all
that?
We
demand
transparency
when
it
comes
to
this,
because
this
is
very
appalling:
I'm,
a
taxpayer
in
the
city
and
I
I'm,
appalled
that
my
money
was
used
to
do
that
to
other
to
my
neighbors,
to
friends,
to
family
that,
then
that
that
we
need
transparency
and
that's
what
I'm
demanding
and
what
we
demand.
O
Council
person
I
just
want
to
clarify
I
worked
at
911
during
the
time
that
this
evidently
took
place,
and
we
were
never
told
one
incident
of
this
occurring.
So
this
has
been
covered
up
from
the
very
beginning.
There
is
never
any
notes
and
any
calls
about
administration
of
ketamine,
so
I
have
a
number
of
different
questions.
O
So
my
question
is
this:
we've
heard
from
HCMC
who
has
made
the
excuse
that
this
has
been
a
psychological
treatment.
We
haven't
heard
anything
from
North
Memorial,
and
so
is
this
also
a
practice
of
North
Memorial
to
operate
and
fourth
Precinct
with
this
kind
of
impunity.
We've
also
understood
that
cope
has
been
on
some
of
these
calls,
and
so
has
Colton's
standing
by
observing
these
people
being
injected
with
ketamine,
knowing
mental
health
protocols
and
not
saying
anything
and
I
want
to
know
why
that's
happening.
O
Why
is
no
saying
anything
and
covering
up
everything
until
the
whistleblower
steps
forward?
I'm
sure
you
didn't
hear
of
it?
I
didn't
hear
that
I
worked
right
down
there
and
the
other
thing
is
if
the
police
were
aware
of
it
and
the
EMS
were
aware
of
it
was
fire
aware
of
it?
Was
fire
call
done
on
these
calls?
How
do
they
know
if
we
have
body
camera
images
of
these
events?
Those
officers
that
were
caught
on
body
camera
using
this
medication
inappropriately
need
to
be
terminated.
This
is
this
is
not
a
training
issue.
O
This
is
not
a
oops
I,
didn't
think
of
anything
occurring
issue.
This
is
harassment.
This
is
a
legal
treatment
of
human
rights
of
our
citizens,
whether
they're
mentally
ill
or
whether
they're,
just
not
cooperative
with
the
police.
So
I
really
want
it
to
be
noted
that
if
there's
CIT
officers,
they
know
right
away.
What
they're
doing
is
wrong
according
to
their
protocols.
Ems
knows
it's
wrong.
North
knows
it's
wrong.
Fire
knows
it's
wrong.
P
My
name
is
Cathy
Zack
I
live
at
13-13
44th
Avenue
North
in
Minneapolis
I
am
with
the
group
stamp,
also
known
as
safety
triage
and
mental
health
providers.
First
of
all,
I
will
give
kudos
to
chairman
councilmembers.
Once
a
member
Gordon
also
an
inspector
wait.
We
have
come
a
very,
very
long
way
with
a
whole
lot
of
work.
I.
P
Too,
have
some
issues
with
the
key
to
mine,
I'm,
probably
saying
it
wrong.
I
was
told
by
an
individual
who
lives
in
the
5th
precinct
that
when
the
officers
come,
they
will
throw
her
on
the
floor
and
pile
up
on
her.
This
has
happened
before
the
co
responder.
This
has
happened
since
the
co
responders
started.
She
says
if
they're
nice
he'll
throw
me
on
the
couch.
She
was
given.
P
The
key
to
mine
and
I
had
a
problem
with
even
believing
this
I
am
an
RN
and
the
physicians,
Desk
Reference
I
dealt
subscribes
to
this
as
a
use
of
Paquita
mine.
Yes,
it
is
used
for
depression,
but
there
is
a
full
evaluation,
not
by
a
nurse
but
by
a
physician
who
can
order.
This
medication
monitor
this
medication
and,
even
more
so
knows
about
drug
interactions,
the
individual
that
I
spoke
with
needed
to
be
intubated.
She
did
lose
consciousness.
She
was
in.
She
woke
up
in
the
ICU.
She
was
there.
P
I
can't
remember
if
it's
probably
several
weeks,
because
you
don't
go
from
unconscious
intubated
just
to
being
with
it.
She
is
terrified
terrified
of
this
happening
again.
There
is
no
way
this
should
be
delivered
in
an
emergency
on
ethical
matters,
but
also
on
medical
health
matters.
These
folks
do
not
know
drug
interactions.
What
other
medications
these
folks
are
taking.
P
Yes,
also
just
a
little
bit
on
the
poor
responder,
there
are
times
when
officers
refuse
to
refer
people,
and-
or
these
times
are
given
kind
of
mine
I
don't
know
could
be,
could
not
be.
There
are
some
gaps
and,
of
course,
it's
a
new
program
but
I'm,
hoping
that
this
will
work
through
as
it
goes
on
once
again.
Thank
all
of
you,
I
think
this
is
just
awesome
that
this
is
taking
place.
A
G
It
doesn't
pose
me
that
anybody
would
think
that
it's
okay
to
drug
another
human
being
against
their
will
and
it
enforced
happen
to
have
an
investigation
around
the
subject.
It's
wrong.
It's
just
wrong
and
the
people
who
did
these
things
should
be
fired
from
their
jobs
immediately
and
his
practice
should
be
stops.
I,
don't
understand
how
anybody
could
think
that's
okay
in
this
world
in
this
day
and
age.
G
It
hurts
my
heart
that
this
these
practices
are
going
on
and
I'm
and
I
want
to
cry,
but
it
just
hurts
my
heart
that
these
practices
are
going
on.
That
is
more
african-american
people
that
are
being
drugged.
People
who
look
like
me
and
I'm
concerned
about
this
program.
They
took
that
to
the
inspector
was
some
tough
talking
about,
because
the
data
is
accurate.
It
didn't
include
people
in
the
fourth
Precinct
at
all
so
I
I'm
concerned
about
I'm
concerned
about
that
when
I,
when
I
heard
about
this,
when
I
heard
about
this.
G
I'm
so
emotional,
when
I
heard
about
these
people
being
sedated,
I
immediately
immediately
went
into
prayer,
haven't
I'm
a
minister
right
and
I
prayed
about
the
situation,
but
I
can't
understand
how
it
is
that
we
get
to
this
point,
how
it
is
it.
Anyone
could
think
it's
okay
to
drug
us,
drunk
anyone
and
at
all
I
saw
I,
saw
instead
I
own
so
I'm
here
to
say
that
I
want
justice
for
the
people
who
are
poor
or
drugs.
I
want
justice
for
those
who
work.
G
G
I'm
sorry
I'm
so
emotional
about
this.
It's
like
I,
don't
usually
be
it,
be
they
emotional,
but
I.
Just
think
that
this
is
just
so
wrong
and
it
hurts
my
heart
to
the
core.
Did
this
happen
at
all
and
I'm
tired
of
people
of
us
having
to
beg
you
guys
to
treat
black
people
or
people
of
color
like
we're
human,
because
we
are
human
and
discerned
that
I
know
that
it
wasn't
white
people
that
were
being
drugs,
I
know
they
weren't
being
drugs,
and
if
it
was,
it
was
a
small
amount.
We
are
human.
G
Q
R
How
offices
are
doing
this
and
everyone
I
first
beacon
spoke
so
far
are
just
people
that
are
somewhat
advocates
of
those
that
have
been
victims
of
that
I.
Personally,
myself
am
a
victim
on
March
23rd
of
this
year
and
I
do
have
videotape
I
have
footage
and
everything,
but
it
also
it
seems
that
all
the
way
across
the
board
and
this
incident
occurred
officers
actually
drugged
me-
and
this
has
been
something
that
has
been
happening
to
me
for
some
time
in
Minnesota
I've
had
a
vehicle
taken
from
me
called
on
the
impound
for
30
days.
R
They
told
me
it
wasn't
there,
then
on
8:30,
it
was
I've
lived
in
Minneapolis,
public
housing
and
I
am
a
recovering
addict
and
it's
been
a
real
struggle
for
me
to
try
to
stay.
Clean
I
was
cleaning
from
December
23rd,
all
the
way
till
February
27th
the
year
2007,
all
the
way
to
the
year,
2017
I
was
constantly
harassed,
dealing
with
the
police
dealing
with
my
vehicle
in
2012,
someone
hit
my
vehicle
and
I'm
living
in
Minneapolis
public
house,
and
they
tell
me
I
have
to
go,
get
a
police
report.
R
Police
refuse
to
give
me
a
police
report
and
I
come
down
here
to
the
commissioner
and
I
finally
did
get
one
for
that
incident
in
2012,
but
in
2017,
when
they
basically
continue
to
just
knocked
off
my
mirror.
Scratchy
advented
and
wheel
I
went
down
to
the
management
of
Minneapolis
public
housing.
They
told
me
I
needed
a
police
report
again.
The
police
refused
to
give
me
a
report
once
I
sold
them
for
the
three
thousand
dollars
worth
of
damage.
R
They
decided
to
give
me
$300,
because
I
just
wouldn't
accept
a
hundred
I,
don't
know
what
took
you
guys
back
to
a
little
bit
of
history
of
if
you
can
do
the
research
yourself
Frank
bright
hearing
in
1974
what
they
were
talking
about
gang
stalking
and
you
know,
harassment
of
individuals.
I
am
a
target.
Our
experience
this
every
day
of
my
life,
I've
struggled
to
stay
clean
today
only
have
14
months,
but
not
I
should
be
celebrating
14
years.
R
Stress
is
one
of
the
biggest
problems
that
cause
individuals
to
use
drugs
and
I'm,
totally
tired
of
being
stressed
out,
harassed
and
followed
by
the
police
and
giving
tickets.
I
just
did
STS
service
yesterday
for
four
tickets
they
broke.
One
said:
I
was
eight
three
eight
feet.
Three
inches
away
from
the
curb
and
I
was
actually
eight
feet
on
the
money,
but
I
was
given
a
ticket,
and
I
did
do
that.
I'm
all
I'm,
a
law-abiding,
individual
I,
don't
harm
anyone,
but
I
do
have
videotape
of
the
incident
of
what
they
did
to
me.
R
Changed
me
stopped
me
and
then
incubated
me
and
put
me
in
the
hospital
and
as
they
are
actually
like,
simultaneously
evicted
me
from
Minneapolis
public
housing.
I
refuse
to
release
me
from
jail
after
my
bail
was
posted
for
an
entire
week,
but
I
must
state
of
good
cheer.
Regardless
of
that,
you
know,
that's
my
duty
do
yours.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
S
Some
specific
information
in
regards
to
excited
delirium,
the
chief
proponent
and
advisor
of
excited
delirium,
is
dr.
Jeffrey
Howe,
who
is
the
director
of
ms
at
Ramsey
or
now
Ramsey,
but
Hennepin
County,
Medical
Center.
He
has
published
numerous
amounts
of
papers.
He
has
specifically
there's
one
in
2007
how
to
respond
to
excited
delirium,
because
you,
as
law
enforcement
officers,
are
often
required
to
control
suspects
in
various
stages
of
agitation.
It
is
important
for
you
to
understand.
Some
of
these
subjects
will
be
in
the
state
of
excited
psychological
stress
in
2007.
S
Abc
did
a
report
because
there
were
multiple
deaths
in
police
custody
in
regards
to
excited
delirium.
There
is
up
until
that
point
been
nothing
in
any
medical
journal,
nothing
in
any
medical
dictionary
to
support
this
excited
delirium
and
often
cases
and
in
most
cases,
excited
delirium
is
only
pronounced
after
death
of
a
subject
in
police
custody.
So
you
have
an
individual
who
was
a
sheriff
who
works
in
Hennepin,
County
Medical,
who
has
been
spreading
this
theory
of
excited
delirium
to
cops
nationwide
with
previous
to
him
and
some
of
his
colleagues
work.
S
There
is
no
known
or
understood
idea
or
diagnosis
of
excited
delirium
that
these
cases
under
police,
distress
of
police
abuse
or
death
in
police
custody
are
the
only
times
that
they
have
been
able
to
diagnose
this
excited
delirium.
So
this
basically
seems,
in
my
opinion,
that
this
is
an
excuse
or
something
built
around
a
narrative,
to
explain
why
these
individuals
are
dying
in
police
custody
and
what
these
things
are
to
use
for
these
individuals.
S
Eric
Balaban
of
the
american
civil
union,
civil
liberties
union
argued
in
2007
that
excited
delirium
was
not
recognized
again
by
any
medical
American,
Medical
Association
or
the
American
Psychological
Association,
and
that
they
diagnosed
or
the
diagnosis,
served
as
means
of
whitewashing.
What
may
be
excessive
use
of
force
and
inappropriate
control
techniques
by
officers
during
arrests.
This
was
back
in
2007
we're
talking
about
eleven
years
later.
This
is
something
that
was
addressed
publicly
on
national
news
and
by
the
American
Civil
Liberties
Union.
S
There
should
be
no
question
what
you
should
do
in
your
report
or
how
this
should
be
handled,
especially
from
the
lead
individual
that
you
guys
are
getting
information
from
both
medically.
As
part
of
your
police
force
and
works
for
Hennepin
County,
who
are
in
cahoots
with
the
officers
that
are
collectively
drugging
our
citizens
since
symptoms
of
this
excited
delirium
are
agitation,
delirium
and
sweating.
Now
the.
S
Quickly,
thank
you.
Differential
diagnosis
is
our
low
blood
pressure,
low
blood
sugar
heat
stroke
by
osmosis,
which
I
not
even
sure
that
I'm
pronouncing
paranoid
schizophrenia
and
bipolar
disorder,
so
the
amount
of
individuals
who
could
be
listed
or
being
drugged
under
these
could
also
have
a
number
of
these
other
effects,
and
by
no
means
would
you,
by
law
or
by
any
other
service,
give
these
individuals
ketamine
put
them
into
a
place
where
they
might
be
innovated
and
the
death
rate
about
individuals
with
Khadem.
S
A
T
I
don't
understand
how
we've
gotten
to
the
point
that
we
have
our
hospitals
under
the
control
of
the
police
as
well.
That's
terrifying
and
dr.
Jeffrey
Howe
has
been
doing
research
on
ketamine
for
the
past
decade
in
pre-hospital
settings,
so
this
is
not
new
to
him.
He's
been
using
vulnerable
people
that
are
being
arrested
by
the
Minneapolis
Police
Department
to
conduct
his
own
research,
which
is
extremely
unethical
and
terrifying.
T
T
I
know
too
many
people
that
have
been
date-raped
and
I
know
too
many
people
that
have
been
sexually
assaulted
and
raped
by
police,
so
that
needs
to
be
looked
into
and
finally
like,
we
need
to
do
something
I
mean
we
cannot
have
this
conflation
of
police
running
our
medical
services.
That's
absolutely
unethical!
T
We
need
to
know
who
these
officers
are
that
happen
and
commanding
EMS
workers
to
inject
people.
We
need
to
know
who
the
EMS
workers
are
and
all
those
people
need
to
be
fired.
I
also
think
we
need
a
commitment
from
City
Council
to
not
add
any
new
police
officers
to
the
budget
this
upcoming
year
and
with
that
money
that
would
be
used
for
new
officers.
I
would
like
to
see
that
put
into
alternate
responders
for
medical
health
crisis
so
that
this
can
be
handled
in
a
way,
that's
appropriate.
Thank
you.
Thank.
U
U
These
medical
experts
expressed
concern
about
the
rate
of
intubation,
because
it's
incredibly
high
for
people
being
administered
ketamine
and
not
as
indicative
of
the
fact
that
it's
in
a
pre-hospital
environment-
and
it
also
is
done
with
no
clinical
assessment,
so
no
determination
of
the
risks,
which
is
why
people
die
due
to
those
risks.
Pre-Hospital
I
want
to
know,
as
Mattie
expressed
how
many
people
were
brought
directly
to
jail
after
being
drugged.
U
How
many
convictions
have
resulted
from
arrests
of
this
nature
and
Jeffrey
Howe
published
a
work
last
year
that
between
2014
and
2015
545
people
were
drugged
pre-hospital
because
they
were
agitated
and
he
narrowed
down?
That
pool
to
roughly
150
people
who
were
incredibly
agitated
and
then
stated
that
from
that
pool,
only
50
were
brought
to
HCMC,
so
I
want
to
know
where
everyone
else
is
going
and
I
also
want
to
ask
this
committee
to
connect
with
st.
Paul
Paul's
public
safety
committee.
U
Accordingly,
chief
medical
officer
in
the
press
conference
that
happened
recently,
this
is
happening
at
regions
as
well,
which
tracks
with
hose
research,
which
is
co-authored
by
people
from
regions
specifically
Christian
anger,
Brunson,
Paul,
Nystrom
actually
is
HCMC
and
then
there's
one
other
guy
John
Cole.
So
I
would
ask
that
you
all
look
into
these
people
and
then,
as
Curtis
named
excited
delirium
is
not
an
academic
observation.
U
J
V
Good
afternoon,
I
want
to
first
just
applaud
all
of
the
people
who
showed
up
today,
because
you
care
about
your
fellow
human
beings
in
the
city
of
Minneapolis
and
in
Hennepin,
County
and
particularly
I,
think
it
was
noble
of
the
person
who
experienced
trauma
from
being
injected
and
all
of
the
police
abuses
to
stand
up
here.
It
takes
a
great
deal
of
courage
to
do
that.
V
One
of
the
things
that
struck
me
when
I
first
read
the
Star
Tribune
article
talking
about
the
role
of
the
police
in
urging
medical
professionals
to
use
ketamine
is
that
this
is
yet
another
example
of
unchecked
police
power
in
the
city
of
Minneapolis
and
unfortunately,
it's
just
the
tip
of
the
iceberg.
I
remember
coming
here
in
2015
and
talking
to
City
Council
members,
as
well
as
the
mayor
at
that
time,
about
the
fact
that
we
need
comprehensive
criminal
justice
reform
in
the
city
of
Minneapolis.
V
Police
abuses
are
happening
on
a
regular
basis
and
it's
not
as
if
government
leaders
aren't
aware
of
this.
You
have
enough
video
evidence.
You
have
enough
lawsuits
that
have
been
settled
on
behalf
of
police
officers
against
victims
for
years.
Tens
of
millions
of
dollars,
and
so
the
evidence
and
the
information
is
there,
but
the
political
will
has
not
been
there
to
do
something
about
it.
V
Since
we
held
the
press
conference
a
few
days
ago,
I
have
received
at
least
three
calls
from
emails:
I'm,
sorry
from
members
of
the
public,
talking
about
being
drugged
with
ketamine,
talking
about
being
forced
into
studies
that
they
did
not
agree
with
at
HCMC
surrounding
ketamine,
and
they
are
traumatized
as
a
result
of
what
has
happened.
Some
of
these
people
have
mental
health
issues.
Many
are
vulnerable
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
when
I
think
about
what's
happening
here,
I
feel
like
we're.
V
In
the
twilight
zone,
I
mean
it's
just
the
nature
of
the
culture
here
that
would
allow
police
officers
to
feel
comfortable,
giving
instruction
to
medical
professionals
to
drug
people.
So
we
are
asking
for
a
number
of
things
number
one
well,
of
course,
we're
asking
for
third-party
independent
investigation.
We
do
not
trust
local
agencies
or
individuals
to
conduct
an
investigation,
we're
asking
for
a
credible
entity
outside
of
the
state
of
Minnesota
to
evaluate
and
examine
what
is
really
happening
here
beyond
that.
We
have
asked
for
reparations
for
the
people
who
have
been
victimized
through
this
scandal.
V
It's
unfortunate
that
people
felt
uncomfortable,
calling
the
police
before
and
now
we
have
to
feel
uncomfortable
calling
for
emergency
medical
services,
because
we
don't
know
what's
going
to
happen
to
us.
Absolutely
outrageous.
I
also
want
to
add
that
we're
looking
for
information
on
the
race
and
the
gender
and
the
zip
codes
of
an
age
of
the
people
who
have
been
victimized
I
would
argue
that
many
of
these
people
have
come
from
some
of
our
most
underserved
communities,
and
that
is
an
absolute
tragedy.
V
If
this
was
happening
in
southwest
Minneapolis,
it
wouldn't
have
even
come
to
this.
It
wouldn't
have
taken
three
years
to
figure
out
that
something
was
terribly
wrong
and
that's
a
manifestation
of
the
inequities
that
continue
to
persist
in
the
city
of
Minneapolis.
So
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
here
standing
in
solidarity.
We're
asking
you
guys
to
take
this
to
heart,
to
think
about
the
people.
V
W
Hi
I'm
an
attorney
and
I've
gotten
involved
with
a
lot
of
criminal
justice
matters,
because
I
developed
the
ministry,
because
pastors
would
ask
me
to
visit
people
in
jail,
so
I've
been
in
all
the
local
jails
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
three
about
three
comments.
First,
my
observation
from
the
suburbs
is
that
one
issue
that
we
have
is
very
often
our
police
will
dump
people
into
Minneapolis
or
st.
Paul
any
person
that
they
consider
to
be
somehow
not
belong
in
that
community.
W
W
I
think
that
they're,
Regional
and
Minneapolis
just
is
the
place
that
people
get
dumped
and
I
do
know
of
another
man
who
was
in
Apple
Valley
and
the
police
dragged
him
and
tased
him
and
put
him
on
the
bus
and
told
him
to
go
back
to
Minneapolis,
and
he
wanted
to
be
a
Napa
Valley,
but
they
said
no,
you
go
back
to
Minneapolis,
so
I
definitely
see
that
these
issues
that
were
having
is
regional.
It
involves
seven
counties,
not
just
Minneapolis.
W
Another
thing
that
I
would
say
is
the
police
definitely
are
trying
to
get
information
from
people
in
their
local
jails,
because
they
don't
have
a
good
relationship
with
the
community,
so
they're
always
trying
to
get
information
from
the
people.
But
if
you
are
ever
labeled
a
snitch,
you
are
gonna
die.
You
have
you,
your
life
is
in
danger.
If
you
are
ever
labeled
a
snitch
and
like
any
local
jail,
you
cannot
meet
with
anybody
from
local
law
enforcement.
W
If
they
see
you
leave
to
talk
to
anybody
in
law
enforcement
as
somebody
who's
in
a
Cell,
you
get
labeled,
snitch,
okay
and
your
life
is
in
danger.
So
I
can
totally
see
that
kind
of
mind
being
a
the
kind
of
substance.
That
is
that
it
is
that
the
police
would
use
that
to
get
information
from
people,
but
they
would
forget
about.
They
are
answer.
Questions
they'll
forget
that
they
answered
them,
will
answer
them
truthfully.
W
Ketta,
truth,
serum,
so
I
can
see
that
the
police
would
have
a
huge
incentive
to
use
Ted
of
mine
in
order
to
get
information
from
people
about
the
community.
What's
going
on
so
I
think
I've
been
asked
myself.
Why?
That's?
The
only
thing
that
really
comes
to
my
mind
is
getting
information
and
people
forget
about
it
and
also
there's
a
whole
there's
a
huge
history
in
this
country
about
medical
experiments
done
on
people
of
color
and
I.
W
Definitely
you
listen
to
you
read
about
african-americans
and
syphilis,
and
not
given
people
drugs
against
syphilis
and
letting
people
just
suffer
and
die,
and
I
see
that
there
there
are
medical
experiments
being
conducted
on
people
of
color,
unofficial,
illegal
and
I
think
that
the
doctors
involved
it
should
be
reported
to
the
Medical
Board.
There
are
other
ways
to
sanction
people
thought
that
should
not
do
that.
Thank
you.
X
A
Thank
you
all
for
your
testimony
and
thank
you
all
for
being
here
today.
At
this
time,
I'd
like
to
recognize
the
staff
for
their
status
report
and
I'd
like
to
note
that
we
also
extended
an
invitation
to
medical
staff
at
HCMC
to
see
if
they
could
answer
questions
related
to
their
area
of
expertise.
The
appropriate
experts
were
not
able
to
attend
this
meeting.
A
Y
As
this
body
is
aware,
the
city
has
equal
obligations
to
ensure
that
public
data
is
made
available,
but
to
prevent
the
public
to
prevent
the
disclosure
of
protected
data.
Over
the
last
several
days,
we
received
guidance
from
the
City
Attorney's
Office
and
informal
advice
from
the
Minnesota
data
practices
office.
We've
concluded
that
the
programmatic
review
work
of
the
office
of
police
conduct,
review
by
its
very
nature
of
oversight,
is
while
in
draft
form,
confidential
or
productive,
non-public
data
under
Section.
Y
Thirteen
point:
three:
nine
of
the
Minnesota
government
data
Practices
Act,
the
section
pertains
to
internal
auditing
data
and
it
states
data
notes
and
preliminary
drafts
of
reports
created
collectively
maintained
by
the
internal
audit
offices
of
government
entities
or
persons.
Performing
audits
for
governmental
entities
and
relating
to
an
audit
or
investigation
are
confidential
data
on
individuals
or
protected
non-public
data.
Until
the
final
report
has
been
published
or
until
the
audit
or
investigation
is
no
longer
pursued
actively.
As
director
Korbel
will
explain,
the
office
of
police
conduct
review
generated.
Y
This
draft
is
part
of
its
audit
of
police
procedures.
As
such
Minnesota
statute,
13
392
classify
the
report
is
confidential
or
protected
non-public
data.
The
statute
is
important
because
it
enables
the
OPC
are
to
effectively
performance
audits.
It's
part
of
an
important
part
of
its
oversight
function
of
police
conduct
so
because
of
this
classification
staff
comments
today
must,
of
necessity
be
limited
to
those
items
that
we
discussed
without
potentially
releasing
protective
data.
Once
the
report
is
finally
is
finalized
and
published,
it
then
becomes
public
data.
Y
Y
So
in
order
to
ease
public
access
and
improve
transparency,
the
city
will
publish
the
public
portions
of
the
final
report
as
well
as
any
related
data
public
data
to
the
city's
website.
We
plan
to
use
the
same
web
address
that
we've
used
for
other
hi-hi,
frequently
posted
datasets
and
that
web
address
is
the
city's
website.
Wwe
apples,
MN,
gov,
slash
police
sloth
records,
/
frequent
and
that
will
be
available
on
the
city's
homepage
as
well.
Y
F
Y
Z
Afternoon,
mr.
chair
and
committee
members,
my
name
is
Velma
Korbel
and
I'm.
The
director
of
civil
rights
here
in
the
city
of
Minneapolis.
In
May
of
this
year,
the
office
of
police
conduct
review
a
division
within
the
Civil
Rights
Department
released
a
working
draft
of
a
report
that
this
is
the
subject
of
this
presentation.
Z
By
way
of
background,
the
primary
mission
of
the
office
of
police
conduct
review
is
to
assure
that
police
services
are
delivered
in
a
lawful
and
non-discriminatory
manner.
The
office
does
this
in
two
key
ways:
first,
by
investigating
complaints
of
misconduct
against
Minneapolis
police
officers
and
secondly,
by
conducting
program,
reviews,
audits
and
research
studies
in
doing
it's
program,
reviews
or
audits,
the
OPC
Arad
ordinance
at
title
9
chapter
172
provides
that
quote.
Z
For
this
particular
report,
the
legal
analyst
was
assisted
by
a
body
camera
analyst
who
transitioned
into
his
new
role
in
April
of
this
year.
The
process
for
conducting
a
program,
review
or
audit
that
focuses
on
improving
police
services
and
ensuring
that
those
services
are
delivered
in
a
lawful
manner
is
described
in
detail
in
the
pc.
Osi
study
process
document
and
I've
made
some
copies
available
to
the
committee
this
afternoon
and
there's
also
a
copy
that
is
available
for
the
public
to
examine
if
they
would
would
like
to
do
that.
Z
The
analyst
then,
would
seek
additional
information
from
those
involved
in
the
issue
under
review
to
provide
context
and
a
response
to
any
unanswered
questions.
The
working
draft
is
then
revised
to
include
this
feedback
before
any
final
draft
report
is
dude.
All
contributors
have
an
opportunity
to
review
their
responses,
make
corrections
and
provide
any
final
comments.
The
report
is
then
only
considered
final
when
all
contributors
have
had
an
opportunity
to
go
through
this
process.
A
working
draft
is
never
a
final
draft.
Z
The
sequence
of
events
that
brought
us
to
the
production
of
this
particular
working
draft
are
as
follows:
in
the
fall
of
2017,
at
the
request
of
the
Minneapolis
internal
audit
department,
the
office
of
police
conduct
review
staff
reviewed
body
camera
footage
for
the
purposes
of
reviewing
use
of
force
incidents.
During
this
review
process,
several
instances
were
observed
of
individuals
being
injected
with
an
unknown
substance
by
emergency
medical
professionals.
Z
In
early
2018,
the
office
of
police
conduct
review
analysts
notified
the
director
of
that
office
that
they
were
had
observed
these
instances
and
in
the
office
of
police
conduct.
Reviews
director
reviewed
the
body
camera
footage
director.
That
director
then
requested
that
the
staff
research
any
relevant
policies
regarding
the
use
of
sedatives,
the
staff
researched
the
policy
and
that
but
the
OPC,
our
staff
were
unable
to
find
any
applicable
MPD
policy
in
late
February
of
2018.
The
office
of
police
under
review
director
notified
me
regarding
her
staffs
observations.
Z
I
then
looked
at
some
of
the
body
camera
video
and
requested
that
the
staff
in
the
office
of
police
conduct
review
to
conduct
a
review
regarding
the
use
of
sedatives.
At
this
point,
the
office
of
police
conduct
review
analysts
suspected
the
substance
used
in
most
of
these
cases,
with
ketamine
between
late
February
and
mid
May
of
2018.
Z
The
office
of
police
conduct
review
reviewed
reports
dating
back
to
2010
to
April
2018
the
OPC.
Our
analysts
retrieve
police
reports
that
contained
the
word
ketamine
and
review
the
corresponding
body
camera
video.
If
it
was
available,
a
total
of
159
reports,
mentioning
ketamine
from
2010
to
2011
Siddhant,
were
observed
to
include
instances
of
MPD
involved
decision-making
prior
to
sedation.
Z
AA
AA
Z
June
of
this
year,
the
city
is
informed
that
the
start
review
of
the
staff
and
inform
that
the
star
Hyun
had
obtained
a
copy
of
the
working
draft
and
started
in
publish
this
article.
That
day
on
June
18th,
several
Minneapolis
City
Council
members
on
the
peace
committee
issued
a
staff
direction
that
the
office
of
police
conduct
review
is
to
complete
its
report
and
produce
that
back
to
them
by
the
end
of
the
July
and
that
that
staff
Direction
also
calls
for
an
external
evaluation.
Z
At
that
same
time,
mayor
fry
and
chief
arredondo
announced
an
independent
investigation
into
prehospital
into
the
pre-hospital
sedation
reports.
I'd
like
to
emphasize
that
the
questions
that
were
developed
by
the
office
of
police
conduct
review
to
carry
out
the
program
review.
These
questions
were
as
follows:
were
Minneapolis
police
officers
conducting
themselves
appropriately
when
they
were
recommending
or
suggesting
detained
persons
be
injected
with
a
sedative
known
as
ketamine?
If
not,
what
should
be
done
about
it?
Z
And
the
second
question
is
if
a
medical
study
involving
the
injecting
of
a
sediment,
a
sedative
known
as
ketamine,
was
being
conducted
in
Minneapolis
on
Minneapolis
residents,
with
the
assistance
of
Minneapolis
employees
did
leadership
and
policy
makers
know
about
such
a
study?
If
not,
what
should
be
done
about
it?
Z
Late
May
into
the
middle
of
June,
the
working
draft
of
the
report
was
obtained
by
persons
external
to
the
city
before
those
two
research
questions
were
completely
answered.
So
the
report,
as
has
been
mentioned
previously
by
the
clerk,
is
still
in
a
draft
form
when
the
working
draft
was
prematurely
obtained
by
these
parties
external
to
the
city.
In
the
interest
of
transparency,
the
peace
committee
approved
a
staff
direction
that
requires
an
external
evaluation
or
a
peer
review
of
the
final
draft
report.
Z
The
ordinance
provides
that
in
doing
its
work,
the
quote
analysts
for
the
office
of
police
conduct
review
shall
organize
and
administer
programs
of
research
and
study,
and
thus
is
programmatic
reviews
to
operate
without
interference
or
other
influence
that
might
adversely
affect
an
independent
and
objective
judgment
of
the
analyst
in
quotes.
Because
of
this
premature
release
of
the
working
draft
to
allay
accusations
of
a
loss
of
objectivity
or
neutrality.
Z
The
peace
committee
issued
a
staff
direction
for
the
external
evaluation
and
again
this
is
not
part
of
our
normal
process.
The
department
is
in
the
process
of
engaging
the
peer
review
team,
barring
any
unforeseen
events.
We
expect
to
meet
the
deadline
of
July
26th
I'd
like
to
also
point
out
at
this
time
that
the
office
of
police
conduct
review
staff,
who
are
the
authors
of
this
report,
are
both
attorneys
with
experience
in
civilian
oversight
and
program
review.
Z
One
is
a
certified
government
audit
professional
certified
by
the
Institute
of
internal
auditors,
and
he
must
recertify
each
year,
which
requires
him
to
attend
continuing
education
classes.
I
mentioned
this
because,
for
a
peer
review
is
critical,
that
the
team
engaged
also
have
the
qualifications
and
experience
to
understand
civilian
oversight
and
program,
reviews
and
audits,
so
I've
reached
out
to
the
National
Association
for
civilian
oversight,
a
law
enforcement
Nicolle
for
a
referral
and
for
folks
who
have
not
heard
of
nicole.
It
is
a
national
civilian
oversight
organization.
Z
Z
Some
of
those
program,
reviews
and
audits,
include
the
body,
camera
policy,
research
and
study
the
mental
health
and
policing
study.
That
was
the
form
the
basis
for
the
presentation
that
you
just
heard
prior
to
this
one,
the
complaint
filing
process
study
and
the
most
recent
one
is
the
evictions
and
calls
for
service
study,
which
is
currently
known
as
the
conduct
on
premise,
conduct
and
license
premise.
Studies
and
I
would
end
at
this
point.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
J
These
comments
were
brought
to
my
attention
by
a
draft
report
by
the
OPC
ER,
which
states
MPD
officers
either
recommended
or
suggested
medication
or
medical
treatment
for
individuals
encountered
on
emergency
medical
calls.
I
take
these
allegations
seriously
matters
that
impact
the
public
safety
and
well-being
of
the
residents
and
visitors
to
our
city
are
the
utmost
importance
to
me
to
make
officers
procedures
on
such
calls.
Absolutely
clear
and
Ministry
of
announcement
was
sent
out
to
the
rank
and
file
explaining
the
issue
in
a
recent
policy
was
activated
to
address
the
issue
moving
forward.
J
I
did
this
as
quickly
as
possible.
Public
Safety
and
the
sanctity
of
life
are
my
first
priorities
and
are
at
the
center
of
every
decision.
I
make
as
chief
I
act
on
behalf
of
the
over
400,000
residents
of
this
city
and
have
dedicated
to
putting
these
priorities
at
the
forefront
of
my
decisions
to
make
decisions
that
significantly
impact
people's
lives
simply
based
on
emotion
and
without
all
available
facts
would
be
irresponsible.
J
Dangerous.
A
dereliction
of
my
duties,
I
have
confidence
in
the
professional
service.
The
men
and
women
of
the
may
of
Police
Department
provide
to
the
residents
of
Minneapolis
on
a
daily
basis
and
when
that
service
can
be
improved,
I'm
committed
to
making
those
changes,
but
we
also
have
an
obligation
to
those
we
serve
to
provide
clear
and
accurate
data
data
and
reports.
J
J
K
J
E
Thank
you
so
much
mr.
chair,
first
I
just
want
to
start
off
with
saying
repeating
what
I
said
at
Monday's.
Peace
meeting,
which
is
I,
am
very
appalled
by
the
question
for
you,
if
you
wanted
to
yet,
but
very
appalled
by
the
initial
findings
of
this
study
and
I,
hear
everyone
here,
y'all
showed
up
and
and
spoke
truth
about
what
is
happening
and
I
am
very
concerned
of
I
share.
E
Many
of
the
concerns
I
want
to
name
that
it
is
the
job
of
the
Civil
Rights
Department,
which
is
largely
made
up
of
women
and
people
of
color.
It's
their
job
to
push
it's
their
job
to
make
people
feel
uncomfortable,
because
what
the
department
does
is.
It
brings
to
light
the
ugliness
of
what
discrimination
in
real
time
looks
like
and
what
the
violation
of
people's
civil
rights
basic
civil
rights
looks
like
I
as
a
North
Sider
as
a
younger
black
man.
E
E
E
Z
Chair
comes
member
Cunningham
that
this
program
review
is
actually
the
work
of
the
office
of
police
conduct.
Review
is
not
a
research
and
study
that's
been
offered
by
the
police
conduct
oversight
Commission,
so
I
want
to
make
that
clear
out
of
gate,
as
I
mentioned
in
my
remarks,
a
working
draft
is
never
a
final
draft
and
in
order
to
create
a
final
draft,
there
are
other
voices.
Z
Other
comments,
other
pieces
of
information
that
need
to
be
considered
in
order
to
bring
this
to
conclusion,
it
is
unfortunate
and
regrettable
that
the
working
draft
made
it
out
into
the
public
and
that
folks,
outside
the
city
receive
that,
but
we
are
in
the
process
of
doing
the
fuller,
more
complete
study
and
will
consider
all
the
various
pieces
of
input
that
we've
gotten
to
this
point.
Great.
E
Thank
you.
I
also
wanted
to
share
that
I
I
am
the
author
of
the
staff
direction,
having
the
civil
rights
department,
complete
the
study
and
then
having
the
external
evaluation
I
just
wanted
to
give
the
feedback
that
I
appreciate
you
hearing
that
the
peer
review
process,
given
that
it's
a
research
paper,
was
definitely
what
we.
What
we
had
in
mine
is,
as
my
colleagues
and
I
talked
to
it,
really
being
able
to
cover
the
basis
of
the
methodology
being
able
to
talk
about
the
fieldwork.
The
data,
that's
included
the
final
report
and
recommendations.
E
That
is
where
a
lot
of
the
questions
are,
and
so
so
I
just
wanted
to
reflect
back
that
you
have
heard
the
staff
direction
correctly
and
I
look
forward
to
that
work.
Do
you
believe
that
the
premature
distribution
of
this
study
has
compromised
the
objectivity
of
the
OPC
are
to
complete
the
study
with
integrity?
Mr.
Z
Chair
becomes
member
Cunningham,
I
I,
don't
think
so
in
the
long
term.
But
in
response
to
this
present
situation,
I
think
the
the
peace
committees
production
of
the
staff
direction
is
very
helpful
because
we
welcome
that
second
set
of
eyes
or
network,
we're
not
afraid
to
have
our
work
reviewed,
but
I
was
just
want
to
bring
some
comfort
to
the
stakeholders
and
also
to
the
community
that
we
are.
AB
Think
you
might.
The
the
study
is
one
thing
that
the
conduct
is
another
and
Mike.
My
questions
are
really
to
make
sure
that
you
know,
as
this
is
going
forward,
that
this
conduct
is
stopped.
So
my
first
question
after
the
administrative
order,
you
feel
confident
that
that's
enough
to
send
the
message
to
all
of
your
officers
that
until
we
learn
more,
this
stops
now.
J
Chairman
Peres,
chair,
Fletcher,
councilmember,
Schrader,
I
I,
think
the
administrative
order,
along
with
the
policy
that
we
sent
out,
is
going
to
be
kind
of
reinforced
in
the
administrative
order.
The
administrative
order
is,
you
sent
out
to
it,
sent
out
every
bit
to
all
members
of
Police
Department,
but
it's
usually
we
ask
these
supervisors
to
go
over
it
with
the
officers
that
roll
call
and
kind
of
with
the
specific
idea
of
talking
points
on
what
to
cover
and
what
we're
addressing.
AB
The
second
one
I
mean
you've
mentioned
the
medical
professionals.
That's
that's
the
that's
under
the
county.
So
is
there
more?
We
need
to
be
looking
for
yeah
because
they
have
they
done
similar
actions.
Are
they
also
questioning
this
or
is
this
my
concern
is?
Are
they
going
to
be
doing
continue
this
policy
of
using
ketamine,
or
is
that
being
questioned
right
now?
As
far
as
you
know,.
J
Sheriff
Fletcher
councilmember
trader
from
the
information
I
had
received
I
think
is
the
same
as
it
buddy
received
from
the
public
statements
they
gave.
It
appears
that
they
were
they
I
did
not
hear
them,
say
anything
about
stopping
about
stopping
the
decision
on
going
forth
with
their
research.
Okay,
Thank
You.
K
K
I
am
you
know,
given
that
her
department
is
sort
of
the
primary
victim
this
leak
right,
because
now
they
have
a
incomplete
study
that
is
now
up
for
scrutiny
when,
as
director
Koval
said,
usually
it
would
be
a
completed
study
that
would
be
up
for
public
scrutiny
and
peer
review
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
was
on
the
mind
and
that
on
you,
all's
mine
and
that,
and
that
chief
hard-on
Oh
could
maybe
make
a
commitment
to
to
making
a
strong
statement
with
our
director
civil
rights
as
well.
A
few
other
questions,
I.
K
J
Chair
Fletcher
comes
from
where
Ellison
I
spoke
to
the
chief
about
that
yesterday
and
got
an
update.
So
he
and
the
mayor
been
in
close
discussions
regarding
that
topic.
They
are
very
close
to
picking
an
independent
investigator.
They
are
trying
to
narrow
the
search
down.
They
do
have
some
people
in
mind.
They
they
have
a
couple
criteria,
they're
looking
for
one.
They
do
not
want
they're.
J
Looking
for
someone
who
is
not
affiliated
with
the
city
to
not
affiliated
with
the
police
department
and
three
they're,
possibly
looking
at
somebody
that's
out
of
state
to
do
the
investigation.
They
have
some
people
in
mind.
However,
they
have
not
settled
yet
on
a
name
with
the
information
I
received
so
based
on
our
and
what
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
is.
If
we
had
officers
that
were
administering
the
ketamine,
which.
J
K
That's
what
this
is
all
about,
and
I
think
that
in
a
couple
of
the
state
in
a
couple
of
statements,
both
the
joint
statement
by
the
mayor
and
the
chief,
the
Chiefs
public
statement,
that
is
on
the
NPD
website,
and
the
lack
of
a
joint
statement
from
with
director
Korbel
I-
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
creating
the
sense
that
that
the
mayor
or
the
police
chief
are
questioning
the
the
objectivity
of
our
civil
rights
department
and
the
the
officer
kind
of
review
process.
Would
you
be
willing
to
affirm
your
commitment
to?
J
Flexure
councilmember
Hilson
I
can
I
can
tell
you.
I've
worked
directly
with
the
members
of
the
OPC
are,
and
civil
rights
for
the
last
approximately
four
or
five
years.
I
was
prior
to
my
role
here.
As
internal
affairs
and
I've
always
been
I've
been
very
impressed
with
the
work
they
do
and
we've
kept
that
we've
built
that
relationship
and
and
I
think
we
can
still
keep
that
relationship.
J
J
H
You
mr.
chair
I
do
have
a
question
for
deputy
chief
cubberson
deputy
chief
I'm
I'm,
wondering
it
with
the
information
that
we
have,
which
is
incomplete,
and
for
me
only
what
I've
read
through
the
media
I
haven't
seen
a
draft
report.
It
is
concerning
that
there
was
such
a
vast
increase
from
two
to
70
cases,
and
it
makes
me
uncomfortable
I
think
makes
all
of
us
uncomfortable
not
to
know
what
the
cause
will
did.
H
J
Think
it'd
be
really
difficult
needed.
I'm,
sorry,
cheerful,
I,
sure
councilman
Thomas
on
I
think
it'd
be
really
difficult
for
me
to
speak
to
that
right
now,
given
the
investigation
is
still
incomplete,
it's
possible.
They
may
have
some
other
ideas
that
they
want
to
some
other
avenues
on
why
they
believe
that
is
and
and
I
kind
of
want
to
give
them
their
ability
to.
You
know
investigate
down
those
avenues
and
I
don't
want
to
really
steer
them
a
certain
way,
so
I
think
if
you
really
it
would
do
a
disservice.
J
K
Have
a
question:
I
think
this
is
couple
of
a
few
times,
while
we're
still
investigating
whether
or
not
police
officers
themselves
did
the
injecting.
We
know
via
the
transcripts
that
a
number
of
officers
were
sort
of
making
a
demands
or
suggestions.
Have
those
officers
been
disciplined
in
any
way
and
if
so,
how?
But.
J
Tier
four
accounts
for
minute
counts.
Remember
Ellison.
Nobody
has
been
disciplined
from
this
at
all.
Yet
again,
the
the
study
is
still
in
draft
phase,
so
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
the
information.
We
have
not
gone
forth
and
fully
identified
all
the
officers.
Yet
on
our
end,
the
police
departments
end
regarding
the
information
the
OPC
R
has
so
nobody
has
been
disciplined
on
this.
However,
I
did
speak
to
that.
We
will
also
be
looking
at
officers
that
may
have
asked
for
it
that
may
have
asked
for
the
the
ketamine.
K
J
Chair
Fletcher,
don'ts,
remember,
Ellison,
I
couldn't
speak
to
that.
To
be
honest
with
you,
I
would
think
just
being
working
investigations.
It
would.
It
would
probably
something
that
you
would
want
to
include
in
that
report.
That'd
be
my
thought,
but
again
that
would
be
whoever
the
independent
investigator
is
a
be
the
decision
to
go
forth
with
that
Thank.
E
You
mr.
chair,
it's
just
more
of
a
comment:
I
just
want
to
go
back
in
and
reiterate,
I
think
this
term
civil
rights
has
really
been
a
little
bit
worn
out
and
lost
a
lot
of
its
power,
but
to
take
a
step
back
and
look
at
it.
Civil
rights
are
basically
the
right
to
basic
human
dignity
and
to
be
treated
with
basic
humanity.
E
When
people
say
civil
rights,
they
think
a
lot
of
times
of
the
1960's
in
the
civil
rights
movement.
It's
right
here
and
right
now
we
are
still
fighting
the
same
battles
that
we
have
generations
ago.
It
just
looks
different
now,
so
I
just
really
want
to
take
a
moment
to
really
reiterate
the
power
of
our
civil
rights
and
that
they
are
not
violated.
We
are
not
done
having
this
conversation,
because
the
civil
rights
was
done.
E
E
Well,
I
have
been
a
special
education
teacher
with
students
whose
special
their
their
disabilities
showed
up
violently
and
I
would
never
ever
ever
allow
this
to
be
used
on
them
and
so
to
to
the
point
of
you
know:
well
you
just
don't
understand
it's
like
well,
you
know,
I
can
say
personally
that
I
have
been
in
this
work
before
and
I
would
never
ever
want
to
see
my
that
used
on
my
students.
In
fact,
I
would
fight
very
hard
for
them.
E
A
Thank
you,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
everybody
who
came
forward
to
testify.
I
think
it
was
very
important
that
we
created
space
for
public
comment
today,
because
I
think
we
all
needed
to
hear
from
the
community
and
we
needed
to
hear
how
this
information
was
landing,
how
this
information
was
circulating,
how
people
are
feeling
I
think
we
heard
that
this
feels
like
a
real
violation
of
trust
and
I.
Think
to
me,
we
have
a
lot
of
information
that
we
still
need.
A
This
report
is
in
progress
and
I
want
to
thank
the
civil
rights
department
and
OPC
are
for
your
work
and
moving
this
forward,
and
in
bringing
this
to
our
attention,
it
was
awful
to
hear
and
it
would
be
even
more
awful
to
have
it
happening
in
our
community
and
not
know
so.
I
really
appreciate
that
this
information
is
coming
forward
for
us
and
whether
we
discover
that
there
were
policy
violations
or
not,
as
we
move
through
this,
whether
we
discover
that
our
officers
directly
ordered
or
or
had
illegally
an
appropriate
role
in
administering
ketamine.