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Minneapolis Health, Environment, Civil Rights & Engagement Committee meeting
A
Good
afternoon
I'm
going
to
call
to
order
this
meeting
of
the
public
health
environment,
civil
rights
and
engagement
committee
for
Monday
February,
12
2008
team.
My
name
is
Philippe
Cunningham
and
I
am
the
chair
of
this
committee
with
me
at
the
Dyess,
our
councilmembers
Schrader,
Gordon,
Johnson
and
Jenkins.
Let
the
record
reflect.
We
have
a
quorum.
A
We
have
10
items
on
the
agenda
today:
8
consent
items
and
2
discussion
items.
The
consent
items
are
approving
number
1,
Southside,
Green,
Zone
task
force,
appointment,
approving
the
council,
appointment
of
Darius
Gray's
seat,
9
Ward
9
to
an
unexpired
one-year
term
ending
August
31st
2018
just
wanted
to
share
very
briefly
that
Darius
is
a
community
member
who
works
worships
and
plays
within
the
Phillip
Phillips
and
Cedar
Riverside
neighborhoods.
As
a
current
umn
student
and
environmental
justice
advocate
and
professional
to
contract
amendment
with
Riverview
windows
Inc
for
lead
remediation
work,
this
is
connected.
A
Excuse
me,
an
increase
to
contract
numbers,
see
read
nine
seven,
four:
seven
with
river
river
view:
windows
Inc
in
the
amount
of
$200,000.
This
is
connected
to
a
20
December
2014
HUD
grant
for
lead
hazard
reduction
strategies
and
the
increase
is
going
to
be
covered
by
grants
and
funds
already
allocated
items
number
three
and
for
our
internship
programs
through
school-based
clinics,
their
one-year
internships
and
their
graduate
level
clinical
hours,
and
then
five
is
five.
Six
seven
and
eight
are
ordinances
that
are
being
referred
to
staff.
Do
committee
members
have
any
questions.
A
Seeing
no
questions,
I
move
the
approval
of
the
consent
agenda,
all
those
in
favor
of
the
motion,
please
say:
aye,
those
opposed
say
no,
the
ice
habit
and
that
item
is
approved.
Today
again,
we
have
two
discussion
items.
Our
first
discussion
item
is
receiving
and
filing
a
presentation
on
Black
History
Month,
with
an
overview
of
culture,
community
assets
and
challenges.
Anthony
Taylor
african-american
community
specialist,
with
the
NCR
Department,
will
be
giving
us
a
short
presentation.
Mr.
Taylor,
if
you
will
please
come
up
to
the
mic.
B
Chair
cunningham,
council
members
good
day,
my
name
is
Anthony
Taylor
I
am
the
african-american
community
specialists
for
the
department
of
neighborhood
and
community
relations,
and
today
I
stand
before
you
to
have
a
presentation
in
honor
of
Black
History
Month
about
the
african-american
community.
The
agenda
for
today
are
talking
a
little
bit
about
the
goals
and
visions
of
our
department
in
my
work.
B
The
purpose
of
my
work,
a
few
numbers
on
the
demographics,
about
the
city
of
Minneapolis,
the
leadership
structure
in
our
city
and
also
to
to
celebrate
some
of
the
positive
things
that
are
happening
in
our
community.
But
what
those
positive
there
are
some
issues:
some
feedback
that
I've
received
from
my
many
meetings
with
different
community
members
and
organizations
within
the
city.
B
What's
our
vision,
our
vision
is
for
just
and
fair
engagement
that
connects
residents
to
achieve
our
one
goal.
Minneapolis
eliminate
our
disparities
or
relatives
can
fully
participate
in
government
process.
The
african-american
community
is
a
wonderful
community.
I'll
just
go
back
a
little
bit
just
to
say,
I
started
in
September
working
with
NCR
and
through
my
travels
and
and
talking
with
many
different
people,
Minneapolis
is
wonderful.
B
I
think
what
happens
is
that
there's
a
narrative
out
there
that
there's
a
lot
of
negative
things
that
are
happening,
but,
as
you
see
in
my
powerpoint,
we'll
be
able
to
celebrate
a
lot
of
those
because
I
think
it's
important
that
the
word
gets
out.
I'd
like
to
tell
different
people
when
I'm
speaking
and
talking
to
them
about
I
would
love
to
have
Emmy
Roscoe
come
on
West
Broadway
a
lot
more
to
us
and
some
of
the
things
that
happens
on
channel
9.
Let's
celebrate
some
of
the
things
that
happens
in
in
Minneapolis
again.
B
It's
a
very
rich
history
on
both
sides
in
North
and
South
in
Minneapolis,
and
some
of
the
wonderful
things
that
are
happening
are
a
lot
of
the
growth
development
for
small
businesses
is
happening
in
our
community,
but
also
there's
some
challenges
and
really
we're
talking
about
systemic
racism,
economic
growth
and
also
just
as
are
some
of
the
things
that
I
hear
as
I.
Do
my
work
in
the
community
as
the
african-american
community
specialists.
My
job
is
to
engaged
community
to
enhance
city
access.
B
What
happens
to
happen?
I
think
in
our
community
is
that
our
community
has
to
get
more
involved
in
the
process
and
also
to
how
the
city
can
help
in
their
community
as
far
as
engagement
activities.
The
purpose
of
my
work
is
to
provide
those
outreach
strategies
to
city
government,
as
well
as
to
merge
to
I
think
it's
important
that
people
are
a
real
representative,
their
community,
to
be
a
part
of
that
process.
B
That's
my
job
open
up
clear
communication
channels,
so
we
can
work
together
to
make
our
city
as
diversity
as
it
is
that
we
see
when
we
walk
around
our
community.
So
and
why
do
we
need
this?
You
know
it's
all
about.
Building
capacity
to
work
within
the
city
ensure
that
it
is
an
inclusive
environment.
Our
results
are
really
to
be
transparent
and
also
to
be
accountable
and
I.
Think
that's
vitally
important.
We
talk
about
issues
in
our
community
there's.
There
are
some
healing
that
needs
to
happen
as
well
in
our
community
tool.
B
I
think
I'll
talk
about
that
as
we
go
and
this
a
little
bit
our
demographics
Minneapolis
and,
as
you
guys,
will
know,
total
population
there's
a
little
over
400,000
60%
whites,
39%
of
color
and
again
a
breakdown
within
a
community
19%
african-american
9.7,
Hispanic,
5%
Asian,
two
or
more
races
3.7,
as
well
as
American
Indian.
About
one
point.
That
tells
you
a
lot
about
our
community
as
well
as
you
look
at
the
next
slide.
There's
not
a
breakdown
of
the
demographics.
B
The
nor
the
near
North
has
the
highest
concentration
of
african-american
population
that
eighty
nine
percent
compared
to
the
total
fall,
which
is
thirty,
nine
point.
Seven
in
Minneapolis
near
North.
As
you
can
see,
the
numbers
Willard
hey
in
the
Jordan
area,
compromise
most
of
our
african-american
community.
B
The
youth
driven
causes
I
think
are
important
when
I
talk
to
different
people
about
the
civil
rights
movement,
the
civil
rights
movement
really
started
by
the
students
by
the
children.
That's
what
happened
in
our
civil
rights
at
that
time.
Families
could
not
really
necessarily
protest
because
they
had
to
go
to
work
the
next
day
and
fear
of
being
arrested.
So
it
was
really
the
children
who
sparked
the
civil
rights
movement
kind
of
like
our
black
lives
matter.
Movement
are
ongoing.
Me
too.
B
Movement
I
think
we'll
see
some
more
action
with
that
as
far
as
our
youth,
but
compared
to
also
our
traditional
leadership
structures,
which
are
the
faith-based
organizations,
the
pillar
organizations
in
our
community,
the
Urban
League,
the
n-double
a-c-p
mad
dash
I
can
go
on
and
on,
but
our
leadership
structure
in
this
city
is
strong.
Our
pillar
community
organizations
are
strong
as
well,
and
they
also
provide
a
solid
that
their
reputation
is
solid.
People
go
to
places
they're
comfortable
with
again.
If
we're
talking
about
Black
History
Month,
we
talk
about
the
civil
rights
movement.
B
The
churches
were
sanctuaries
as
well.
So
when
we
talk
about
our
faith-based
leadership,
which
Seiler
temple
New
Salem
and,
of
course
our
elected
officials
anytime,
the
community
has
needs-
wants
to
communicate
some
things.
Those
organizations
are
strong
in
our
community
and
they
always
will
be
also
we
talk
about.
B
The
progress
has
happened
in
Minneapolis
I
listed
a
few
things,
but
I
could
have
18
slides
about
the
positive
things
that
are
happening
in
North
Minneapolis,
specifically,
if
we're
talking
about
that
pen
in
Plymouth
Corridor
for
construction
I
think
is
a
blessing
to
our
community,
one
of
the
largest
african-american
owned
construction
companies
who
are
having
their
home
base
in
North
Minneapolis.
The
North
Point
expansion
is
a
great
thing
for
the
community,
as
well
as
the
green
zone.
Project
for
the
northern
metals
to
Crete
is
gonna
start
happening
in
North
Minneapolis.
B
Think
it's
very,
very
special
and
in
our
grocery
stores
you
talk
about
something.
That's
been
well-documented
about
a
need,
since
food
left
assume
you
target
left
and
income,
food
came,
but
it's
not
necessarily
represented
the
entire
community
with
the
North
Market
and
the
worth
cooperative
grocery
store
are
extreme
positives
and
we
really
need
to
celebrate
those
things
tremendously.
B
Some
of
the
community
interests
that
we
talked
about
that
I
have
mentioned
before
are
talked
to
a
lot
of
different
people.
I've
talked
to
north
nonprofit
organizations.
I've
talked
to
a
lot
of
different
community
members,
Neighborhood
Association,
it's
just
different
people
throughout
my
time
in
a
city,
just
three
things
that
could
three
things
that
come
up
when
I
talk
to
people,
one
is
police
and
community
relations.
I
hear
a
lot
about
the
fact
that
I
think
that
needs
to
happen
more
in
our
community.
B
There
is
some
open
wounds
that
have
not
been
closed.
As
far
as
some
of
the
issues
in
our
community
and
I
think
those
are
one
of
the
biggest
things
people
talk
about
accountability,
people
talk
about
justice,
people
talk
about
transparency,
some
of
the
things
that
I
hear
in
our
community
as
well
as
job
growth
in
creation.
Again,
we
do
have
a
lot
of
organizations
that
are
helping
in
that
process.
I
talk
about
Northside
funders
group
neon
as
well
as
emerge.
B
Those
are
organizations
that
are
still
helping
to
be
part
of
that
process,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
there's
still
more
to
be
done.
I
hear
this.
These
things
quite
a
bit,
and
also-
and
these
are
not
even
one
two
and
three
over
there-
1a
1b
1c-
we
talked
about
affordable
housing
as
well.
You
know
I
I,
stand
before
you
today,
almost
preaching
to
the
choir,
because
you
guys
know
the
issues
as
well
too.
B
So
but
again,
these
are
things
that
I
hear
that
people
really
really
are
concerned
about
in
their
community
and
not
like
I
said
before.
Small
business
development
as
well.
People
are
generally
concerned
and
anxious
to
have
things
a
lot
better
in
their
community,
because
it's
important
to
them
and
again
that
narrative,
sometimes
it's
not
really
necessarily
broadcast,
because
we
don't
the
community,
doesn't
really
have
an
opportunity
to
speak
on
some
of
those
things
and
I.
B
Think
if
you
listen
to
radio
and
newspapers,
you
would
feel
that
in
Minneapolis
--is,
it's
not
the
great
place
that
it
is,
but
it's
very
true
that
it's
a
great
place
in
a
great
community
with
some
hard-working
folks,
my
charge
as
I
go
and
2018
is
to
have
initiatives
in
the
community
from
what
the
people
wanted.
What
they
told
me
I
said
Anthony
you
need
to
do
this
besides,
June
teens
are
being
back
in
the
park
was
positive.
The
other
issue
said
I
heard
I'll
talk
about
a
few
things.
B
February
27th
NC
on
the
vision
for
racing
equity
will
have
a
Black
History
Month
program
on
February
27th
in
the
rotunda.
When
we
talk
about
Black
History
Month,
the
speaker
will
be
Lisa
McNair.
She
is
a
sister
Denise
McNair,
one
of
the
four
little
girls
who
was
killed
in
the
16th
Street
bombing
in
Birmingham
and
she'll,
talk
about
hope,
so
talk
about
healing
and
also
about
the
political
times
how
they
mirror
that
thin
and
today,
I
think
our
department
is
our
first
Black
History
Month
celebration,
but
she
talks
about
hope.
B
Kappa
HC
in
our
department
will
partner
to
have
some
community
renters
resource
forms,
rights
and
responsibilities
on
what
it
is
to
what
it
means
to
be
responsible
to
advocate
for
justice
in
the
housing
market,
credit
repair,
everything
that
that
renters
are
facing
now.
The
idea
is
to
bring
this
to
the
table
and
hope
to
educate
people.
It's
also
want
to
bring
landlords
to
the
table
who
are
more
friendly
to
those
citizens
who
need
some
affordable
housing.
We
need
to
get
the
word
out.
B
We
need
to
make
sure
that
people
understand
that
this
is
an
important
important
process
for
our
community,
as
well
as
the
police
and
community
relations
forum.
I've
had
some
conversations
with
deputy
Knight
about
bringing
some
forms
to
the
community.
Around
implicit
bias.
Talk
to
chair
cunningham,
about
the
possibility
of
expanding
this
whole
series,
where
we
would
be
able
to
have
Metro,
transit
police
Park
Police
to
have
these
forms
to
have
discussions.
B
When
I
talk
to
chair
Cunningham,
he
really
opened
my
eyes
about
the
party,
the
history
of
conversations
in
the
community
so
around
the
implicit
bias
training,
also
to
bringing
a
different
generations
together
to
talk
about
some
of
the
things
that's
happened.
I
know.
History
says
that
at
times
it
did
not
happen.
I
think
well.
B
Well-Meaning,
authentic
conversations
around
police
and
community
relations
are
important
and
I
think
generationally.
Each
generation
has
issues
of
different
issues.
So
we
talked
about
the
older
folks.
We
talked
about
the
the
so-called
Millennials
I,
don't
like
to
use
that
word,
but
I
think
it
describes
the
young
people
I
think
they
have
different
needs.
Our
initiative
is
to
have
those
conversations
and
do
it
authentic
and
be
able
to
progress
in
our
relations
with
our
community
and
also
a
community
resource.
Fair
I
think
it's
important
access
to
information
doesn't
happen.
B
There's
so
many
wonderful
things
that
happen
document
there's
so
many
different
organizations,
there's
so
many
ways
to
help
people
I.
Don't
think
people
really
know
how
to
access
that
information
to
be
able
to
sit
and
be
able
to
find
out
exactly
what
their
needs
are.
Not
it
can
access
that.
So
when
we
talk
about
the
rod
from
nonprofits
the
organizations
and
the
people
that
can
help
our
community
I
think
being
able
to
have
a
fair
that
brings
everybody
to
the
table
is
very
important.
D
B
D
B
Happen
to
be
a
part
of
the
proposal
review
for
the
northern
metal
decree
green
zone
project-
that's
happening
in
North
Minneapolis,
where
we
selected
a
organizations
to
start
with
engagement
on
the
green
zone,
initiatives
that
are
happening
in
North
Minneapolis.
With
that.
What
moving
forward
this
organization
will
start
to
have
outreach
opportunities
in
the
community,
they
formulate
the
entire
project.
What
our
department
will
do
will
help
and
assist
in
those
engagement
initiatives
for
the
Green
Zone.
A
E
E
That
was
kind
of
individual
case
I.
Remember
when
we
had
the,
although
the
occupation
at
the
third
Precinct
and
everybody
was
reminded,
though
that
used
to
be
a
community
center,
that
was
started
by
activists
in
the
neighborhood
the
way
and
it
was
taken
over
by
the
city
and
became
a
police
precinct.
E
So
and
then,
oh
and
don't
forget,
we
have
the
research
that's
going
on
to
about
covenants
our
housing,
covenants
that
basically
institutionalized
segregation
and
baked
it
into
people's
convenes
when
they
bought
a
home
who
could
who
they
could
sell
to
and
who
they
couldn't,
sell
to
and
I
think
it
really
helps.
People
understand
why
we
have
to
focus
some
energy
on
disparities
and
on
the
problem
and
issues
around
race
in
our
city.
E
E
So
we
have
that
story,
because
I
know
that
it
can
help
as
we're
making
policy
for
the
future
if
we
have
more
of
a
culture
or
community
understanding
of
where
we
are
in
this
whole
timeframe
and
what
we
maybe
need
to
do
to
help
repair.
Some
of
the
damage
is
done
in
the
past
and
move
forward
so
appreciate
that
we
had
some
time
on
the
committee
to
talk
about
this
and
that
I
got
to
make
my
little
pitch
there.
E
A
You
so
much
I
just
wanted
to
say
before
we
wrap
up.
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
presentation
today,
as
well
as
the
work
that
you
have
taken
on.
There
is
a
lot
of
healing
work
and
Trust
building
that
has
to
be
done
between
the
black
community
and
institutions
like
the
city
of
Minneapolis,
so
you
have
a
big
charge,
and
so
thank
you
very
much
for
not
only
taking
that
on,
but
also
coming
here
today
to
tell
us
a
little
bit
more
about
it.
Thank
you
and
seeing
no
further
questions.
A
F
Thank
You,
chair
Cunningham,
my
name
is
Deshawn
skivvy
I'll
actually
be
introducing
Keene,
independent
research,
council
member
Cunningham,
sorry
Chair
Cunningham,
members
of
the
committee.
My
name
is
Shawn
Skippy
and
the
contract
compliance
division
director
here
at
the
city
of
Minneapolis.
The
purpose
of
the
request
for
counsel
action
today
is
to
request
the
committee
receive
and
file
the
2017
disparity
study
and
offer
this
community
this
committee
an
opportunity
to
review
the
study's
findings.
F
With
its
author,
a
keen
independent
research
keen
will
be
presenting
the
study's
findings
here
today
momentarily
and
digging
into
the
details
and
will
also
be
available
to
answer
questions
from
the
committee.
We
are
also
seeking
to
commence
with
opening
the
public
comment
period
for
this
study
to
be
open
until
4:00
p.m.
on
Wednesday,
February,
28
2018,
and
then
both
I
want
to
note
that
both
Keene
and
myself
will
be
available
for
questions
during
the
presentation
today,
as
well
as
any
questions
or
comments
afterwards.
G
Well,
this
dovetails
nicely
with
our
previous
presentation
because
we
have
things
to
celebrate
about
the
progress
that
the
city
has
made
in
terms
of
reaching
out
to
minority
and
women-owned
businesses
in
the
Twin
Cities
area,
as
well
as
some
further
challenges.
So
we'll
will
dive
into
this.
This
is
a
very
long
study.
G
There
was
we've
been
working
on
this
for
a
year
and
a
half,
we
involved
a
number
of
local
team
members
as
well
that
interviewed
local
businesses,
trade
associations,
community
members,
as
well
as
thousands
of
businesses
throughout
the
state
over
the
phone.
We
filed
a
public
meeting
here
in
Minneapolis
a
year
and
a
half
ago
right
in
the
beginning
of
the
study
to
hear
from
the
community
and
very
pleased
to
present
this
draft
report
to
the
city
for
your
review.
G
G
I'm
gonna
race
through
a
lot
of
material,
and
please
stop
me
because
it's
we
of
course
think
this
is
a
very
important
issue,
but
I
want
to
be
very
respectful
of
your
time
and
not
get
into
more
detail
than
as
appropriate.
But
please,
if
there's
a
questions
that
come
to
your
attention.
Please
stop
me
or
we
can
answer
any
questions
at
the
end
and
I'll
have
Blanca
and
a
dive
in
and
see
where
I
messed
up
here.
G
G
In
1989,
the
city
of
Richmond
had
a
minority
business
program
and
one
of
the
contractors
who
didn't
get
a
contract
because
they
didn't
comply
with
the
program.
J
crocin
company,
which
we
happened
to
interview
in
my
hundred
disparity
studies,
they've
done
around
the
country,
Jay
Crosson
company,
sued
the
city
of
Richmond
and
said
we
think
your
MBE
program
is
invalid.
The
city
of
Richmond
said
look,
one
half
of
one
percent
of
our
contract
dollars
are
going
to
African
American,
owned
firms,
construction
firms,
we're
a
city,
that's
a
majority
african-american
population
city.
G
There
is
a
disparity
and
the
Supreme
Court
said.
No,
that's
not
enough
information,
that's
not
enough
evidence
of
discrimination.
You
need
to
go
back
to
the
drawing
boards
and
show
us
if
there
is
a
disparity
between
the
utilization
of
minority-owned
firms
and
the
availability
of
those
businesses
gave
some
parameters
about
that
and
then
instructed
the
city
of
Richmond
that
their
program
must
also
be
narrowly
tailored.
So
there
had
to
be
evidence
of
discrimination
and
it
had
to
be
a
narrowly
tailored
program.
G
The
innocence
in
essence
apply
the
strict
scrutiny
standard
of
legal
review,
which
is
the
most
difficult
standard
for
a
city
to
meet.
Anything
else
that
you
do
is
either
illegal
on
his
face
or
easier
to
have
in
place
than
the
minority
business
program,
so
that
was
spring
of
1989
by
fall
of
1989
89.
Many
of
the
cities
around
the
country
were
doing
disparity
studies,
see
County
of
Denver
was
one
of
those
and
I
got
involved
and
have
successfully
completed
more
than
100
studies
and
defended
programs
in
court
over
that
time.
G
G
That's
why
you
do
a
disparity
study,
because
the
US
Supreme
Court
said
you
have
to
do
this
to
have
a
to
take
any
kind
of
action
related
to
race,
conscious
programs.
There
are
different
legal
standards
for
women
business
programs,
but
they
are
similar
not
as
onerous
but
it's
similar
to
minority
business
programs
and
for
the
first
time
or
one
of
the
first
times
anywhere
in
the
country,
the
city
of
Minneapolis
and
the
other
participating
entities
which
includes
city
of
st.
Paul,
Hennepin
County.
G
The
state
and
others
asked
us
to
incorporate
research
on
persons,
businesses
owned
by
persons
with
disabilities
and
by
veterans.
So
that's
an
unusual
and
more
comprehensive
study
than
is
normally
conducted,
and
now
we
have
some
good
information
on
what
our
marketplace
conditions
for
persons
with
disabilities
and
veterans
and
can
report
that
as
well.
The
state
of
Minnesota
has
programs
that
are
targeted
towards
businesses
owned
by
persons
with
disabilities
and
veterans
that
those
types
of
programs
are
much
more
easily
defended
in
court
than
minority
business
programs.
G
We
with
the
help
of
your
wonderful
staff-
and
we
could
not
have
done
this
without
them
and
among
the
nine
entities
the
people
like
Cynthia
and
Sean-
were
kind
of
leaders
because
of
their
experience,
with
disparity
studies
and
with
these
types
of
programs.
So,
with
a
lot
of
help
of
city
staff,
we
were
able
to
examine
almost
7,000
procurements
during
our
study
period,
totaling
about
1.3
billion
dollars.
G
We,
so
we
you're
the
statistics
that
will
show
you
include
both
certified
and
non-certified
firms.
We
confirmed
that
the
most
of
your
locally
funded
procurement
was
going
to
firms
that
had
locations
within
the
Twin
Cities
metro
area,
and
then
we
had
to
develop
benchmarks
to
measure
the
strength
of
that
participation
against
what
might
have
happened
if
there
were
a
level
playing
field
out
in
the
marketplace.
So
if
minority
and
women-owned
firms
in
the
local
marketplace
had
the
same
opportunities
as
majority
owned
firms,
what
percentage
of
City
dollars
would
have
gone
to
those
types
of
companies?
G
So
we
did
an
availability
survey.
We
successfully
contacted
more
than
20,000
firms
throughout
Minnesota.
Most
of
those
were
in
the
Twin
Cities
area,
and
we
asked
them
about
their
qualifications
in
interest
in
doing
work
for
the
city
and
others
so
of
those
20,000.
5,000
firms
expressed
qualifications
and
interest
in
public
sector
work.
It
bid
on
public
sector
work
in
the
past
were
really
a
part
of
this
availability
pool
really
answering
all
the
the
defects
that
the
Supreme
Court
had
with
the
city
of
Richmond
approach
to
this
years
ago.
G
E
G
Firms
within
the
state,
okay
and
most
of
those
are
Twin
Cities
firms,
and
we
asked
firms
where
they
conducted
work.
So
if
you're
in
Mankato
or
st.
cloud,
it
may
be
that
you
conduct
work
here.
It
also
may
be
you
that
a
Twin,
Cities
firm
will
go
out
to
Mankato
or
st.
cloud
and
do
work
as
well.
So
one
of
our
questions
was
not
only
what
type
of
work
do
you
do
in
what
size
of
contracts
do
you
bid
on
we're
geographically
new?
You
work,
so
statewide
28%
of
businesses
are
minority
or
women
owned.
G
So
this
is
not
an
unusual
thing
to
come
across
a
minority
in
or
email
owned
business
in
Minnesota.
Now,
not
all
of
those
firms
are
equally
available
for
all
of
the
types
of
city
procurements
that
you
have
that
you
may
have
very
big
contracts
as
well
as
small
contracts,
and
you
know
you
could
be
you
know,
building
buildings
or
you
could
be
a
specialty
trade
and
we
looked
at
professional
services,
Goods
and
other
services
as
well.
G
Overall,
we
dollar-weighted
them
so
that
the
big
contracts
counted
more.
There
were
some
contracts
for
which
there
was
no.
There
was
a
very
limited
availability
of
any
firm,
but
no
availability
of
minority
women-owned
firms,
and
there
are
some
contracts
that
had
a
lot
of
availability.
Those
were
weighted
based
on
the
size
of
those
contracts
to
come
with
up
with
an
overall
figure
of
what
is
it
realistic
benchmark
for
purposes
of
the
disparity
study.
G
G
Usdot
funded
contracts
that
you
might
get
that
money
through
MnDOT
and
you
might
apply
the
DBE
program
and
it
also
excludes
types
of
procurement
such
as
computers
and
in
off-the-shelf
software
that
you
would
buy
from
a
national
market.
So
that's
what
you
would
buy
locally
and
really
through
the
efforts
of
city
staff
and
the
city's
small
and
underutilized
business
program.
You
achieved
11
percent
participation
that
was
less
than
availability.
So
there
is
a
disparity.
G
We
think
that
eleven
point
two
percent
participation
yeah
a
lot
of
that
is
achieved
through
the
efforts
of
staff
and
the
programs
that
you
have
in
place
that
the
disparity
would
have
been
larger.
But
for
your
program
now
again
we
need
to
be
done.
The
court
decisions
we
need
to
start
breaking,
that
down
by
minority
group,
for
white
women,
owned
firms
and
by
industry
and
here's
the
a
very
simple
breakdown
by
group,
one
of
the
first
things
that
jumps
out.
G
So
we
have
utilization
in
the
left-hand
column
availability
benchmarks,
which
is
the
percentage
of
dollars
that
would
go
to
each
group
if
there
were
a
level
playing
field
and
then
I'll
explain
the
disparity
index
in
a
moment.
So
one
of
the
things
that's
different
about
the
city
of
Minneapolis
and
your
programs,
and
what
you've
been
able
to
achieve
is
five
percent
of
the
dollars
go
to
minority-owned
firms.
Six
percent
of
the
dollars
go
to
white
women
owned
firms.
G
If
you
look
at
other
entity
participation,
it's
much
more
white
women-owned
firms
that
are
able
to
take
there
have
been
taking
advantage
of
these
programs
where
the
dollars
are
going
and
the
participation
of
minority-owned
firms
is
very
low.
Here
is
more
of
a
balance
between
what
you've
been
able
to
achieve
in
minority
business
participation
and
participation
of
white
women-owned
firms,
and
so
that's
that's
an
advantage.
You're
a
an
achievement
of
what
C
Minneapolis
has
been
able
to
do
that.
A
E
G
E
G
E
G
Would
not
do
it
based
off
this
chart,
I
would
I
would
do
it
based
off
some
of
the
detail
where
we
go
industry
by
industry
and
we're
evaluating
the
success
of
a
program
that
you've
had
in
place
that
three
point
five
six
percent
participation
in
medium
American
owned
firms
is
because
you've
had
a
program
that
would
not.
That
might
be
zero.
If
you
didn't
have
a
program
and.
E
I'm
just
concerned
that
it'll
be
difficult
for
us
to
justify
continuing
all
of
our
programs
and
also
the
93
index.
Concerns
me
when
in
in
fact,
some
of
the
reasons
why
might
have
to
do
with
how
few
firms
actually
provide
the
goods
and
services
that
we
want
that
are
owned
by
that
particular
demographics.
E
And
so,
of
course,
we
want
to
grow
the
availability
and
that,
but
should
we
be
also
can
so
we
might
be
a
little
bit
concerned
about
the
93
for
Asian
American
owned
companies
that
could
threaten
our
justification
for
some
programs,
as
well
as
the
170
for
Native
American
owned.
That
threatens
the
justification
for
some
programs,
but
we
can
clearly
make
the
case
for
African
American,
owned
and
Hispanic
owned
companies
that
we
need
to
keep
investing
in
programs.
Is
that
a
good
conclusion?
I.
G
Here
we
see
disparities
for
both
construction
and
perversion.
Professional
services
accept,
and
they
accept-
is
for
Native
American,
owned
firms
and
but
for
the
program
we
have
evidence
that
there
would
have
been
a
substantial
disparity
and
for
other
entities
participating
in
the
study.
There
was
a
substantial
disparity
for
Native
American
owned
firms.
E
G
G
For
goods
procurements,
even
though
you
know
you
try
to
get
minority
and
women-owned
firms
involved,
that
was
substantial
disparities
for
each
group
for
other
services
firms.
You
had
much
greater
success
in
eliminating
disparities
through
the
program.
So
if
you
look
overall
for
minority
women-owned
firms,
you
do
not
have
a
disparity
for
your
other
services
procurements.
What
for
the
program
you
would
have
had?
We
think
you
would
have
had
a
disparity
and
so
you'll
need
to
look
carefully
at
the
individual
results
and
look
carefully
at
the.
G
You
know
the
detailed
discussion
of
these
all
of
the
evidence
in
the
disparity
study,
but
we
think,
but
for
certified
firms
there
would
have
been
a
disparity
for
Hispanic
American,
oh
no,
their
services
firms
and
we're
looking
at
one
lens
to
look
at
these
results
is
at
a
program
evaluation.
So
we
looked
back
and
you
had
a
disparity
study
done
about
eight
years
ago
and
you
had
extremely
low
participation
of
asian-american,
owned
other
services,
firms
and
white
women-owned
firms
and
other
services
in
the
results
of
that
past.
G
Two
thousand
four
hundred
and
forty
nine
firms
or
trade
associations
or
other
individuals
gave
input
to
us
during
the
study
above
and
beyond,
all
the
so
the
availability
survey
that
we
did.
We
did
public
meetings,
we
sat
down
and
met
with
people
individually.
We
talked
with
people
over
the
phone,
we
did
focus
groups
so
almost
2,500
people
and
by
the
end
of
this
process,
probably
more
than
2,500
people
will
have
taken
the
time
dudas
input.
G
We
think
that's
tremendous
and
again
we
appreciate
all
the
efforts
of
the
folks
that
that
made
their
time
available
to
to
give
us
information.
Not
everybody
likes
these
programs
and
we
heard
from
those
folks
do
we
had
one
organization
commissioned
an
expert
that
has
testified
against
these
programs
in
court
to
write
a
report
about
our
study
methodology,
and
so
we
were
able
to
get
that
early
in
the
process
and
take
a
look
at
that
and
say:
okay.
Well,
that's
good
input.
G
G
You
know
set
asides
in
all
the
work
go
to
minority
woman
on
firms
and
that's
probably
not
legally
defensible,
so
what
we
really
appreciated
in
Ann
and
that
Tom
Kean
led
this
effort
with
our
local
sub
consultants
is
the
business
owners
that
might
have
spent
an
hour
and
hour
and
a
half
talking
with
us
about
the
whole
history
of
experience
of
doing
business
in
Minnesota
or
in
the
Twin
Cities
and
as
a
net
was
describing
in
an
earlier
meeting
today.
Sometimes
there
were
tears
involved,
mostly
there's,
but
not
always-
and
this
is
a
heartfelt.
G
This
is
your
baby.
If
it's
your
business,
as
you
know,
if
you
have
small
business,
people
come
and
talk
with
you
and
we're
small
as
business
people,
you
put
your
heart
and
soul
into
this,
and
when
you
hear
about
unfair
treatment
based
on
your
race
or
ethnicity
or
gender,
that
is
an
emotional
experience.
We
heard
that,
and
so
we
thought
that
that
was
important
to
bring
to
you.
We
know
that
you're
going
to
have
some
listening
sessions
and
we're
going
to
have
some
public
meetings.
G
Also
this
week,
where
we'll
have
even
more
opportunity
for
people
to
come
to
us,
but
the
numbers
that
I
just
presented
to
you
are
a
synthesis
of
a
lot
of
individual
business
owners
experiences
and
there
are
fewer
minority
and
women-owned
businesses
in
the
Twin
Cities
today
than
there
should
be
or
would
be
absent
the
effects
of
discrimination.
There
would
be
stronger
minority
and
women-owned
businesses
today.
G
If
people
started
out
with
the
same
access
to
capital
and
capitalization
of
their
companies
and
the
same
opportunities
along
the
way,
you
would
be
able
to
buy
from
a
vendor
pool
a
consultant
and
contractor
pool
that
was
stronger,
but
for
marketplace
discrimination.
There
are
financial
institutions
in
your
that
have
been
found
to
be
discriminatory
and
we
have
individual
business
owners
that
explain
some
of
those
personal
experiences
with
that.
That
continues
to
be
an
issue.
G
G
G
But
I
just
wanted
to
alert
you
to
some
tools
that
you
have
now
that
you
should
make
sure
you're
implementing
as
broadly
as
you
legally
can,
and
one
of
those
tools
is
because
you
have
HUD
dollars.
There
is
a
HUD
outreach
requirements
in
federal
regulations.
You
have
this
tool
now,
and
one
of
the
things
I've
been
pointing
out
to
municipalities
is
when
you
have
HUD
funds,
the
requirement
to
do
maximum
outreach
to
the
minority
business
community,
which
includes
women-owned
firms.
G
There
was
some
information
in
our
study
that,
even
though
the
letter
of
the
law
is
letter,
the
your
program
is
that
professional
services
contracts
be
reviewed
by
the
Department
of
Civil
Rights
for
potential
contract
goals.
The
Department
of
Civil
Rights
can
only
set
goals
and
contracts
that
they
know
about,
and
some
of
the
contracts
professional
services
contracts
were
being
awarded
without
DCR
review,
so
that
could
be
tightened
up.
That
is
a
great
opportunity
to
get
participation
and
again,
if
that
were
happening
here,
where
some
contracts
slipped
through
the
cracks
by
under
user
agencies.
G
That
wouldn't
that's
consistent
with
our
experience
with
other
cities
that
that's
what
end-user
departments
do.
Sometimes
you
have
12%
MBE
and
13%
WBE
participation
goals.
Our
availability
is
certainly
in
the
ballpark.
You
know
we
are
providing
you
some
additional
information
that
will
help
you
set
contract
goals,
and
you
may
want
to
revisit
your
overall
annual
goals
and
it's
not
a
requirement
that
you
have
overall
annual
goals.
This
is
a
city
decision.
G
G
G
You
have
a
target
market
program,
that's
relatively
new.
We
are
suggesting
that
you
require
certification
as
SPE
s.
This
is
a
the
target.
Market
program
is
a
sheltered
market
where
some
of
your
procurements
can
go
to
small
businesses.
We're
suggesting
that
you
tighten
up
the
certification
of
that
program
and
a
good
rule
of
thumb
is
if
you're,
requiring
minority
women-owned
firms
to
go
through
rigor.
The
rigorous
certification
to
participate
in
a
program
make
white
male
felon
firms
go
through
that
same
certification
process,
so
everybody
is
on
the
equal
footing.
G
One
of
the
strengths
of
a
good
minority
and
women
business
program
is
if
it
develops
firms
to
be
big
enough
to
compete
without
the
program,
and
we
gave
the
city
some
examples
of
effective
programs
such
as
a
city
of
Portland
Oregon
prime
contractor
development
program
where
you,
it
has
been
a
capacity
building
focused
where
not
only
our
firms
getting
city
contracts,
but
the
those
firms,
and
many
of
them
are
minority
and
women-owned
we're
going
through
technical
assistance.
Getting
bonding,
getting
funding
to
be
able
to
take
on
bigger
and
bigger
construction
projects.
G
The
city
of
Portland
doesn't
put
any
of
its
small
construction
contracts,
doesn't
award
any
of
those
contracts
without
going
through
this
program.
Those
a
hundred
percent
of
their
small
contracts
will
go
through
their
prime
contractor
development
program,
so
they
have
some
real
energy.
Behind
this
you
have
Hennepin.
County
has
some
good
examples
of
some
very
targeted
programs
as
well.
So
we're?
G
So
this
is
a
draft
report
I'm
available
to
answer
questions
about
it.
We
have
a
rigorous
public
meeting
program.
It
begins
shortly
over
it
over
at
the
Urban
League
Minneapolis
Urban
League,
starting
at
five
o'clock.
We
hope
to
see
you
there.
If
you,
everybody
is
invited
we'll
do
a
one
tomorrow
at
the
Wellstone
Center.
G
C
You,
chair
Cunningham
and
thank
you
and
as
well
as
the
Department
of
silver
ice.
This
say
when
you
go
through
their
port,
you
can
tell
how
much
work
and
resources
have
been
put
into
that
when
I
read
through
it.
I
had
a
couple.
Other
questions
or
I
also
want
to
kind
of
extend
additional
thanks
to
the
department's
civil
rights
for
really
taking
the
time
to
help
me
find
those
answers,
and
just
a
couple
of
those
that
let
the
run-through
just
kind
of
add
to
the
public
record.
C
You
mentioned
in
your
report
that
you
reached
out
to
over
20,000
firms
when
you
look
in
the
appendix
it
talks
about
over
12,000
I'm
saying
that
they
weren't
interested
and
that
number
really
stuck
out
for
so
because
the
reason
I
would
see
to
go
through
this
report
is
to
find
out
why
people
aren't
interested.
Is
it
something
we're
doing
wrong,
and
especially
that's
that's
over
60%
that
weren't
interested?
C
G
Certainly,
the
outreach
continues
today
into
this
week,
so
some
firms
might
be
available
for
this
type
of
work
and
they've
been
discouraged
and
and
as
much
as
possible.
We
tried
to
reach
up
to
those
firms
through
the
study,
but
I
think
this
is
the
best
opportunity
for
those
firms
to
come.
Come
attend
a
public
meeting
or
provide
us
comments
through
email
or
on
our
study
website.
It's.
G
But
let
me
answer
your
question
about.
Is
that
a
large
number-
and
we
think
not
necessarily
and
the
reason
for
that
is
we
were
over-inclusive
because
we
wanted
to
draw
as
wide
a
net
as
possible.
We
are
over
inclusive
in
the
firms
that
we
reached
out
to
about
their
availability
for
public
sector
work,
so
we
have
electrical
firms
who
may
only
do
residential
electrical
contracting
not
ever
bid
on
a
public
sector
project,
but
we
reached
out
to
them
statewide
and
a
lot
of
them
said
no.
G
The
more
you
can
fine-tune
your
availability
figure,
the
more
you've
taken
arguments
away
from
people
who
don't
like
these
programs
and
say
that
our
methodology
is
flawed
or
the
information
that
we
were
basing
our
ill
ability
on
was
was
too
broad
or
too
generic
and
I've
testified
about
this
and
in
multiple
court
cases,
one
every
one
of
them,
and
we
tend
to
be
on
the
more
rigorous
side
to
be
able
to
answer
those
types
of
questions.
Then
your
previous
despairity
city
consultant,
who
did
not
do
that
type
of
analysis.
G
They
would
have
just
looked
at
the
list
and
said
everybody
was
available,
so
we
called
them.
A
number
of
people
said
they
weren't
available
weren't
interested
and
some
of
them
just
simply
didn't
want
to
do.
Take
the
time
to
give
us
information,
even
though
it
was
purpose
with
hey.
Wouldn't
you
like
we're
we're
doing
outreach
to
see
who's
out
there,
that
maybe
the
participating
entities
haven't
learned
about
and
want
to
be
on
the
list
to
get
future
notices
of
bids.
G
So
one
of
the
key
things
is:
is
that
twelve
thousand
or
whatever
that
number
was
or
those
firms
different
in
terms
of
minority
and
women
business
composition
than
those
five
thousand
firms
that
were
in
our
final
availability
pool?
Is
there
anything
about
a
research
process
that
mists
was
more
likely
to
miss
on
minority
women
own
firm?
And
so
we
did
some
research.
And
what
do
we
know
about
those
firms?
G
That
said
no
not
interested,
and
we
found
the
minority
and
women
business
composition
was
about
the
same
as
the
five
thousand
that
did
say
yes,
I'm,
qualified
and
interested,
and
that
gave
us
some
comfort
that
are
in
our
methodology
did
not
kind
of
skew
one
way
or
the
other
and
leave
out.
Often
different
interests
will
say.
G
C
Just
a
warning
about
about
three
questions
so
but
on
I
did
want
to
lift
up
from
your
answer
that
there
was
going
back
and
checking
because
my
my
main
concern
was
that
we
were
not
getting
getting
the
answer.
The
question
of
why
individual
businesses
were
not
interested
in
working
with
the
city,
so
I'm
glad
to
see
that
that
was
done
there.
But
it
also
was
wondering
why
that
number
wasn't
brought
out
a
little
bit
earlier.
C
G
We
were
used
to
seeing
it
for
for
one
thing,
so
perhaps
we
get
immune
to
that
and
the
reasons
that
firms
bring
up
for
not
being
interested
in
public
sector
work.
A
lot
of
those
may
may
be
not
insurmountable,
but
love
surmountable,
then
of
the
firms,
are
actively
participating
and
trying
to
get
public
sector
work
and
facing
those
barriers.
G
Can
you
remove
those
barriers,
or
can
you
further
develop
the
capabilities
of
those
firms
that
are
they're
more
successful,
getting
public
sector
work
so
when
people
say
flat
out
no
kind
of
reject
the
idea
of
getting
public
sector
work?
We
take
that
at
face
value,
and
you
can't
get
somebody
to
talk
to
you.
That's
really
not
interested.
There
wasn't
anything
in
it
for
them.
We
were
able
to
talk
to
some
of
their
trade
associations,
though,
and
so
some
of
the
groups
that
were
representing
those
types
of
companies.
G
G
The
list
goes
on
and
on
and
the
businesses
that
we
talked
with
that
do
try
to
do
public
sector
work.
They
were
saying
the
same
thing
so
that
some
of
the
barriers
were
very
consistent
between
some
of
what
the
trade
associations
were
telling
us
that
their
members
may
not
be
here
that
the
folks
they
represent
may
not
be
integrated
into
the
public
contracting
in
an
bidding
process.
We're
very
consistent
with
some
of
the
other
things
we're
hearing
from
small
businesses
that
we're
trying
to
crack
this
market
great.
C
G
So
we
started
with
two
sources
of
information
to
reach
out
to
firms
the
total
50,000
companies.
In
total,
we
aggregated
the
what
we
called
an
interested
bidders
list
from
each
one
of
the
participating
entity.
So
we
took
the
city
of
Minneapolis
to
see
st.
Paul
last
stadium
in
Minnesota
has
a
big
list
and
we
put
all
those
together
he
duplicated
down,
and
that
was
one
set
of
information,
and
then
we
were
worried
for
the
same
reasons
that
you
just
brought
up
that.
Well,
these
are
firms
are
kind
of
in
the
process
already.
G
What
about
all
the
other
firms
that
might
be
able
to
provide
work?
So
we
got
from
dunn
and
bradstreet
all
firms
in
Minnesota
that
do
the
types
of
work
involved
in
public
sector
contracting.
That
amounts
to
a
substantial
portion
of
public
sector
contracting
and
we
added
those
firms,
and
then
we
called
each
one
of
those
firms
and
we
call
them
once
twice
three
times
there
was
a
website
where
they
could
submit
information
as
well.
G
They
could
get
a
fax
survey
and
send
it
back
so
courts
that
have
looked
at
this
approach,
even
in
here
in
Minnesota.
This
is
a
highly
litigious
issue
if
I
haven't
expressed
that
clearly,
yet
some
of
the
courts
that
have
favorably
reviewed
availability
methodology
that
similar
ours
hold
it
a
custom
census
and
we
say
hey.
D
G
Use
those
two
words
too,
because
we
start
with
a
custom
census
and
make
it
even
more
custom
and
census
II,
because
we
reach
out
to
everybody.
Everybody
got
an
opportunity
to
participate
in
this
and
we
find
it
fine
tuned
it
down
to
those
firms
that
are
active
participants
in
this
market
and
gave
us
all
the
information
about
what
types
of
work
they
do
where
they
do
it,
what
size
of
contracts
they
bid
on
spent
the
time.
G
So
when
I'm
testifying
in
court-
and
somebody
says
your
availability
is
just
junk-
you
just
took
you
just
read
the
number
out
of
a
book
and
said
no,
no,
we
we
talked
to
these
firms,
we
called
them.
They
spent
the
time
with
us
to
indicate
their
specific
qualifications
and
ability
to
do
work
for
our
the
participating
entities
in
Minnesota,
great.
C
G
E
You
I
have
about
four
questions
and
a
staff
direction
at
the
end
and
I'm
just
curious
about
some
of
the
things
that
you
said.
I
was
intrigued
with
Portland's
program.
It
gave
some
capacity
building
to
the
smaller
businesses.
This
is
a
program,
then
that's
free
it
once
they
get
the
contract
that
the
city
provides
to
them.
What
do
they
have
to
pay
for
I.
G
G
Is
that
they
start
small,
and
so
it
may
be
contracts
I
forget
the
tears
but
say
it's
under
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
so
you
have
to
have
been
in
business
for
three
years.
You
have
to
meet
certain
rather
requirements
and
as
part
of
participating
in
this
program,
you
have
to
be
investing
your
business
time
and
resources
in
the
as
far
as
I
know,
free
capacity-building,
technical
assistance
that
the
city
provides
City.
E
E
And
I
don't
know
whether
I'll
go
to
my
other
questions
and
we'll
see
if
they
want
to
respond
to
that.
You
also
suggested
that
there
are
some
financial
institutions,
maybe
in
the
state
or
the
city
of
Minneapolis,
that
are
using
discriminatory
practices.
Do
you
want
to
tell
us
which
financial
institution.
G
G
E
Then
my
fourth
question:
you
talked
about
veterans
and
persons
with
disabilities
and
I
saw
a
lot
of
information
about
him
in
the
report,
but
I
never
got
to
some
of
the
high
level
understandings
in
terms
of
availability
and
utilization
for
the
city
of
Minneapolis.
Do
we
have
numbers
for
that
and
can
you
there
are
any
recommendations
about
that?
You.
G
Do
not
have
numbers,
and
the
reason
for
that
is.
It
would
be
like
any
other
program
that
you
would
enact
you
don't
need.
The
legal
basis
is
rational
basis
tests,
any
other
municipal
action,
that's
not
race
or
gender
based,
would
probably
be
rational
basis,
test
challenge.
Anybody
can
say:
I,
don't
like
your
city,
ordinance
I
mean
to
see
you
and
you
have
to
defend
it
and
it's
fairly
easy
to
defend
compared
to
a
minority
business
program.
G
A
better
business
program
and
a
program
for
persons
with
disabilities
is
at
that
rational
basis,
test
legal
standard
which
is
very
easy
to
meet,
and
we
found
that
persons
with
disabilities
who
owned
businesses
earned
less
than
other
people
who
owned
businesses.
That
may
be
enough
to
survive
a
legal
challenge.
The
evidence
was
not
as
clear-cut
for
veteran
owned
businesses
and,
if
you
think
about
it,
when
we
did
the
research
and
what
who
those
veteran
businesses
are.
First
of
all,
they
are
mostly
white
men
and
they're.
Mostly
older
white
men
in
Minnesota.
G
People
who
own
businesses
tend
to
be
older
is
its.
Although
there
are
Iraq
veterans
and
Afghan
war
veterans
that
are
coming
back
and
starting
businesses,
that
was
not
at
this
point
the
majority
of
those
types
of
businesses,
so
they
were
more
established
stronger.
There
were
that
many
differences
in
in
terms
of
their
the
disparities
weren't
considerable
between
veteran
owned
businesses
and
non
veteran
owned
businesses,
primarily
by
the
composition
of
who
owned
those
businesses,
which
is
largely
white
men
in
Minnesota,
so
clear
evidence
of
disparities
for
persons
with
disabilities
less
clear
for
veterans.
G
But
it
may
be
that
you
don't
even
need
that
information
if
you're
the
state
of
Minnesota,
for
example-
and
you
have
a
veteran
owned
business
program
saying
this
is
a
good
thing-
may
may
be
enough.
We
don't
we
don't
know
very,
very
different
than
programs
for
minority
business
owners
and
female
business
owners
in
terms
of
what
legal
thresholds
you
need
to
meet.
E
A
Sounds
great,
thank
you.
I
have
a
few
questions
and
I'll
pass
it
on
over
to
councilmember
Jenkins,
so
I
just
wanted
to
go
back
to
the
African
American
community
disparity,
it's
pretty
bad!
That's
pretty
severe
the
what
was
a
twenty.
It
was
at
a
twenty
overall
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
hear
from
you
some
some
of
the
factors
that
went
into
causing
such
a
large
disparity
I
mean
aside
from
discrimination.
But
you
know
what
are
some
of
the
factors
I
went
into
there
and
there's
some
miss
opportunities.
There.
G
G
That
I
was
listening
to
the
previous
presentation
about
how
everything
is
interrelated,
and
so,
if
you
have
discarnation
and
housing
and
that
and
council
member
of
Gordon's
comments
about
some
of
the
presentations
you've
had
in
the
past,
just
as
an
example,
if
you
have
a
discriminant
historic
discrimination
and
housing,
you
then
have
lower
homeownership
rates
for
african-americans
in
this
community
still
dramatically.
You
have
lower
home
values
for
people
who
don't
do
own
homes.
G
B
G
Home
because
of
discrimination-
or
you
have
low
home
value
because
of
discrimination
or
you're
discriminated
against
when
you
get
a
home
equity
loan,
and
there
is
evidence
that
that
has
happened,
then
you're
already
behind
and-
and
you
even
haven't-
started
the
business
yet
so
and
that
that
web
of
interrelated
effects
of
past
discrimination
intergenerational
and
end
current
effects.
They
African
American
community
across
the
country
as
much
as
or
more
than
any
other
group
and
is
no
different.
Thank.
A
You
I
appreciate
the
history
piece
because
African
Americans
were
the
only
group
that
legally
was
banned
from
being
able
to
own
businesses
and
be
able
to
buy
homes
in
certain
particular
certain
areas,
but
like
the
in
even
in
the
antebellum
period,
the
ax
access
to
capital,
the
lack
of
access
to
capital
was
still
a
problem,
and
so
it
is
now
even
today
and
so
I
appreciate
that
history
I
was
also
wanting
to
get
some
clarity.
Is
there
any
desire,
gated
data
specifically
on
women
of
color?
We.
G
Did
look
at
women
of
color
and
one
and
I
don't
recall
the
specific
statistics,
but
we
were
very
interested
in
because
we
were
looking
at
minority-owned
businesses
and
we
were
including
women
of
color
in
in
our
data
for
minority-owned
businesses
and
we
had
veterans
and
we
had
persons
with
disabilities
and
in
other
groups
we
were
looking
at
the
intersection
between
all
of
those
different
groups
and
we
specifically
broke
out
women
of
color
of
each
minority
group,
and
we
have
that
information
in
the
report.
Us
in
Chapter.
Five
of
the
report.
G
I
have
a
great
memory
for
this
stuff,
but
I
simply
can't
recall
some
of
the
the
results
that
we
had:
you're
not
required
by
the
courts
and
the
utilization
and
availability
analysis
to
do
a
disparity
analysis
for
african-american
male
own
companies,
african-american
female
and
companies
and
in
Minnesota.
If
you
start
to
do
that,
you
get
groups
that
are
so
small.
That
is
very
hard
to
say
very
much
about
it
and
the
courts
simply
don't
require
it.
G
That's
where
you're
going
to
see
it
show
up,
because
it's
white
male
owned
firms
and
white
female
owned
firms
and
their
differences
and
outcomes
for
white,
female
and
firms,
and
the
answer
is
yes
and
then
our
logic
which
they
have
testified
about
in
the
course
of
upheld.
The
logic,
is
gender
discrimination
sees
no
color
I
mean
it
may,
but
the
courts
have
held
if
there's
gender
discrimination
in
near
an
african-american
female
you
a
double
discrimination.
G
A
Great
thank
you
and
my
last
question
is
so
I
know
that
veterans
disabilities
work
folks
with
disabilities
were
also
disaggregated.
Data
collected
and
I
know
that
in
the
targeted
group
program
at
the
state
level,
that
veterans
and
folks
with
disabilities
are
considered
within
that
and
also
LGBTQ
bees,
and
so
I
was
curious
as
to
whether
or
not
because
I
know
that
the
city's,
not
on
parity
with
the
state,
because
we
don't
identify
veterans,
both
disabilities
and
LGBT
business
enterprises,
and
so
is
there
any
particular
reason
why
that
demographic
was
left
out
of
this.
G
So
we
actually
considered
that
where
that
was
brought
to
our
attention-
and
it
was
the
the
main
entities
that
we
were
our
client
with
the
Department
of
Administration
kind
of
leading
the
charge.
We
took
a
look
at
that
issue
and
they
decided
okay
for
this
disparity
study,
we're
not
going
to
examine
it.
It
kind
of
came
in
late
in
the
process,
but
we
we
came
back
and
they
asked
us
to
say
well
can't
does
anybody
do
this?
Does
anybody
have
a
program
for
gay
and
lesbian
owned
businesses
and
there
are
cities
that
do
so?
G
I
think
this
is
something
that
you
can
take
a
look
at
the
other
thing
that
we
especially
for
the
city
of
Minneapolis,
because
you
may
be
in
a
good
position,
but
this
may
be
a
tool
that
you
will
need
in
the
future.
There
is
a
way
to
structure
programs
where
it's
socially
and
economically
disadvantaged
individuals
that
are
eligible
for
the
program
and
you
can
be
socially
disadvantaged
for
many
reasons,
certainly
economically
disadvantaged.
You
don't
want
large
businesses
to
mean
this
should
be
a
small
business
focused
and
a
focus
for
businesses
owned
by
people.
G
G
So
we're
working
with
the
city
of
New
Orleans
right
now
on
a
socially
and
economically
disadvantaged
business
program
that
there
may
be
many
ways
of
showing
social
disadvantage
being
part
of
the
LGBT
community
might
be
one
of
those
disadvantages,
and
you
are
now
at
the
point
where
you
might
want
to
consider
converting
your
DVE
based
program,
because
you
need
the
DBE
certified
to
be
a
participant
near
in
your
program.
It's
very
close,
so
it
would
not
take
many
changes
again.
G
D
G
So
you,
the
city
of
New
Orleans,
for
example,
will
deny
certification
to
an
african-american
owned
firm
that
comes
in
and
says
I'm,
not
socially
disadvantaged,
I'm
part
of
the
power
structure
of
New,
Orleans
and
I'm,
just
fine.
They
say
well.
Thank
you
very
much
good
for
you,
you're
not
eligible
for
our
program,
the
same
thing
with
the
white
male
that
comes
in
and
says
because
of
my
past
history.
I
am
socially
disadvantaged.
G
A
You
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
name
that
in
the
space
as
well,
because
there
is
a
misconception
that
LGBTQ
often
means
white
cisgender
man
and
then
that
also
can't
conjures
thoughts
of
affluence
and-
and
this
particular
assumption
about
what
the
LGBTQ
community
looks
like
and
what
it
means.
And
so
thank
you
so
much
for
for
bringing
that
in
councilmember,
Jenkins
Thank.
D
You,
chair
cunningham
and
mr.
keen
you
you
mentioned
the
the
target
market
program
and
how
potentially
tightening
up
certification
might
be
one
effort
that
we
can
take.
Do
you
have
recommendations
around
what
these
some
tightening
measures
in
that
certification
process
and
then
just
as
a
follow-up,
you
talked
about
making
white
male
owned
firms
go
through
that
certification
process
as
well,
and
I
was
just
hoping
you
could
expound
on
that
a
little
bit
more
sure.
G
G
G
It's
a
blanket
ten
million
dollars,
so
there
are
tools
in
place
already
at
the
city,
where
you
look
at
what
type
of
construction
business.
Are
you?
What
type
of
professional
services
business?
Are
you
and
you
can
tailor
those
thresholds
or
ceilings
to
participation
in
the
program?
Much
finer
with
really
no
additional
effort
than
one
you
have
right
now,
and
one
of
our
concerns
is
you
want
to
make
this
really
work
for
minority
and
women-owned
firms,
as
well
as
white
male
in
the
firms?
G
I'm,
not
sure,
you've
structured
the
program
to
really
work
it
as
well
for
NDE
W
bees
as
you
might,
and
we
saw
the
spera
teas
so
there's
certainly
a
need
you're
not
done
yet
and
you're,
maybe
missing
an
opportunity
to
get
even
more
minority
and
women
business
participation
in
there.
The
program
was
so
new
that
we
didn't
have
a
lot
of
data
to
know
what
it's
accomplishing,
so
they
these
are
more
questions
rather
than
that
we
wanted
to
bring
up
to
staff
into
the
City
Council.
Where
than
hey.
G
E
Mr.
chair
I
just
have
a
staff
direction,
which
is
essentially
to
follow
up
on
these
recommendations
and
maybe
and
focusing
in
on
one
recommendation
in
particular.
I'll
read:
read
the
staff
direction
and
people
can
respond
to
it,
but
I'd
like
to
move
and
direct
the
city
coordinators
office
to
procurement,
division
of
Finance
and
property
services.
E
Maybe
I
could
just
speak
to
that
for
a
minute.
Yes,
they
let
were
less
I
was
I
was
very
intrigued
by
the
idea
of
having
this
price
in
evaluation
preference
program
for
prime
contractors
and
I'm
assuming
prime
contractors
just
means
the
general
contractor
who
gets
the
the
work
as
opposed
to
subcontractors
and
I,
think
that
it
would
really
help
if
policymakers
could
put
something
out
there.
So
there's
an
automatic
scoring
system.
E
A
E
A
Those
in
favor
of
the
motion
signify
by
saying
aye
aye,
those
against
they
know
the
eyes,
have
it
and
now
seeing
no
further
questions.
I
move
to
receive
and
file
the
all
those
in
favor
of
the
motion
signify
by
saying
aye,
those
opposed
say
no,
the
eyes
have
it.
That
item
is
received
in
file,
seeing
no
further
business
before
this
committee.
We
are
adjourned.