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From YouTube: February 15, 2018 Zoning & Planning Committee
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Minneapolis Zoning & Planning Committee Meeting
A
Good
morning,
I'm
going
to
call
this
a
call
to
order
the
meeting
of
the
zoning
and
planning
committee
for
Thursday
February
15th.
My
name
is
Jeremy
Schrader
and
I.
Am
the
chair
of
this
committee
with
me
at
the
Dyess,
our
council
member
Ellison,
vice
chair,
Reich
and
councilmember
Gordon.
Let
the
record
reflect
that
we
have
a
quorum.
A
Yes,
we
will
have
a
pretty
full
agenda
day,
including
two
appeals
before
going
into
our
quasi
judicial
hearing
will
act
on
the
consent
agenda
for
item
three.
Is
the
approval
of
the
application
submitted
by
Abu
Bakar,
a
daya
sac,
the
sake
islamic
center
to
rezone
the
property
located
at
28
24
13
avenue
south
from
an
I
1
light
industrial
district
to
an
ort,
high
density
office,
residential
district
to
renovate
and
construct
an
addition
of
an
existing
building
in
order
to
establish
a
k-12
school
and
restaurant
item.
A
6
is
the
approval
of
an
application
submitted
by
the
Minneapolis
Public
Schools
to
vacate
the
remainder
of
an
existing
alley
on
the
north
end
of
25
26
Emerson,
Avenue
south
subject
of
the
retention
of
the
easement
rights
by
CenturyLink
item
7
is
the
setting
of
a
public
hearing
for
our
March
1st
meeting
to
consider
three
apartments?
It's
you
know
the
resorting
Board
of
adjustments
and
finally
items
8
through
18,
our
11
ordinances
that
are
being
referred
to
staff.
A
A
With
that
I'll
move
the
consent
agenda,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye,
all
those
opposed
say
no,
the
eyes
have
it,
and
the
motion
carries
next
we'll
begin
their
quasi-judicial
hearings.
Item
1
is
the
appeal
submitted
by
Dom
gurgling
on
behalf
of
Master
properties,
Minnesota
regarding
the
recs
26
project.
Let's
begin
with
the
staff
presentation.
B
Good
afternoon,
chair
and
commissioners,
many
members,
the
appeal
from
the
January
2018
Planning
Commission
meeting,
is
for
looking
at
the
project
at
26th
and
lyndale.
There
were
five
applications
that
were
required:
a
Cu
P
for
height,
a
variance
to
increase
the
fer
from
2.5
to
3
point
4,
2
yard
variances
and
a
site
plan
review.
C
ped
recommended
approval
of
all
those
applications
and
the
Planning
Commission
denied
the
fer
request,
the
variance
to
increase
the
fer
and
site
plan
review.
I'll.
C
B
B
They
are
committed
to
doing
that
if
they
do
or
do
not
if
they,
if
they
do
not
get
funding
or
if
they,
if
they
don't
get
tax
credits
or
some
additional
public
funding.
You
have
even
more
units,
and
the
developer
can
talk
about
that.
Those
four
bullet
points
are
for
elements
of
the
project
or
recommendations
of
approval
by
the
Neighborhood
Association
in
their
letter
and
just
to
wrap
up
the
applicant
in
their
bringing
this
project
board.
B
D
Thank
You
mr.
chair-
and
this
might
be
a
question
for
mr.
Nelson
too,
but
I'm
not
sure,
because
we're
looking
at
the
site
plan
review
at
this
point,
we
could
incorporate
the
additional
four
points
from
the
Neighborhood
Association
without
granting
the
appeal
correct
demand,
additional
glazing
put
in
a
garden
and
the
other
two
things
the
neighborhood
asked
for
since
the
site
plans
in
front
of
us.
We
don't
necessarily
have
to
approve
the
appeal
to
add
those
as
conditions,
correct,
I,
believe.
B
B
In
wrapping
up
staff
did
support
the
project
for
the
following
reasons:
the
small
area
plan
guidance
was
to
have
greater
intensity
between
26
20th
Street,
a
long
window
Avenue,
and
we
want
mixed-use
developments
like
this
along
commercial
corridors,
and
we
did
see
the
applicant
retaining
the
design
elements
that
were
important
to
have
the
building
try
to
fit
in
as
much
as
possible
to
knowing
that
it
will
be
bigger
than
its
surrounding
context.
So
that
concludes
my
presentation
happy
to
answer
questions
you
may
have.
A
E
Committee
members
I
think
mr.
Hanna
was
going
to
check
on
those
specific
provisions,
but
if
I
heard
councilmember
Goodman
correctly,
she
asked
about
whether
we
would
grant
or
non-grant
the
appeal
keep
in
mind
that
the
appellant
is
appealing
some
denial
application,
some
applications
that
have
been
denied
so
without
granting
an
appeal.
Those
applications
are
then
essentially
dead
and
the
applicant
would
revert
back
to
the
approvals
that
they
have,
which
they
are
currently
proceeding
under
construction
with.
E
E
D
So
that
was
a
yes
I
mean
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understand.
I'm
I,
understand
that
we
can't
add
affordable
housing
to
the
project
as
a
condition
of
approval,
but
I
guess
I.
Would
wonder
why
the
glazing
issue
and
the
garden
issue
and
the
solar
ready
issue
couldn't
just
simply
be
addressed
since
the
site
plan
is
again
in
front
of
us,
I
didn't
bring
the
site
plan
in
front
of
us
again.
The
developer
did
so.
D
B
B
D
B
The
the
bottom
version
is
the
larger
version,
and
now
the
applicant
is
willing
to
commit
to
those
three
items:
we'll
talk
about
affordable
housing
and
because
that's
the
one
we're
complicated.
But
if
you
with
the
additional
11,000
square
feet
of
floor
area,
they're
willing
to
do
those
three
items
that
the
neighborhood,
okay.
D
F
B
C
G
Kirk,
council
member
could
no
absent
granting
the
appeal
and
approving
this
new
site
plan
app
amendment,
which
would
give
you
the
opportunity
to
impose
conditions
on
an
approval
outside
of
that.
No,
if
it
remains
denied.
If
you
deny
the
appeal
deny
the
site
plan,
he
still
has
his
pre-existing
approvals
and
that's
what
stands.
Thank.
I
You
mister
I
just
do
want
to
note
that
for
that
2017
approval
there
was
a
significant
amount
of
feedback
from
staff
and
the
Planning
Commission.
Multiple
visits
to
the
committee
of
the
whole,
as
well
as
a
lot
of
feedback
from
neighbors
and
the
design
was
changed
very
significantly
from
the
beginning
to
when
it
was
approved.
Based
on
all
of
that
feedback.
I
A
J
J
This
project
we're
all
familiar
with
this
project,
so
I
won't
be
labor,
but
I
think
it
needs
to
be
said
that
if
we
look
at
the
criteria,
excuse
me
I've
got
a
cold
here
this
morning
we
do
check.
This
project
does
check
all
the
boxes
for
a
mixed
use
and
plus
it
creates
25
full-time
jobs
in
neighborhood
jobs
in
the
neighborhood
within
the
grocery
store.
J
So
a
quick
background
since
the
time
of
the
previous
approvals,
the
tenant
structure,
requirements,
change
and
as
the
project
was
fully
developed
since
that
a
previous
approval,
the
tenant
requires
became
known
and
they
just
impacted
the
project.
Structural
costs.
These
requirements
and
changes
were
unknown
at
the
time
of
the
last
approval,
and
only
when
the
plans
became
more
detailed.
Did
we
understand
what
the
structural
changes
really
comprised
were
surprised.
As
one
knows,
when
a
project
comes
in
front
of
the
Planning
Commission,
it
could
be
30
40,
50
percent
developed
with
them.
L
J
Out
so
today,
we're
in
we're
here
today
to
ask
for
a
consideration
of
an
F
AR
increase,
as
well
as
the
corresponding
site
plan
approval.
It's
C.
It
may
seem
like
we're
going
backwards
by
requesting
today,
the
F
AR
and
the
site
plan
approval,
but
I
have
to
say
we're
not
going
backwards.
We
spent
three
years
trying
to
make
this
project
work.
We've
been
exploring
solutions
all
along
the
way.
The
solutions
are
are
that
the
difficulties
were
trying
to
find
a
space
in
a
design
on
a
difficult
site
to
allow
a
neighborhood
grocery
store.
J
J
J
Difficulty
we
also
now
know
that
we're
able
to
offer
an
affordable
housing
component
working
with
our
financial
consultants.
We
are
able
to
do
this
on
a
voluntary
basis.
We
are
not
going
backwards.
Like
I
said,
we
now
know
all
these
things
to
move
the
neighborhood
forward.
That's
the
essence
of
our
request
today,
I'd
like
to
introduce
you
to
mark
Vannelli,
who
is
the
owner
of
this
project
and
Mark
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
his
background
and
why
he's
so
passionate
about
this
project.
B
O
O
For
example,
the
councilmember
bender
wanted
to
see
happen
on
this
corner
because
it
was
such
an
important
corner
as
you,
as
you
probably
know,
across
the
street,
is
French
metal.
Caddy
corner
is
common
routes
with
Danny
Schwartzman
we've
got
nightingale,
we've
got
Lynn
Hall
now
and
all
the
way
down
the
road.
It's
a
great
beautiful
cursory,
bohemian
Uptown
neighborhood
with
a
great
streetscape
I,
want
to
maintain
that
I
want
that
to
be
I,
want
this
to
be
a
beacon
in
that,
but
not
an
obnoxious
beacon.
O
O
This
project,
councilmember
Goodman,
had
asked
us
to
consider
a
lot
of
changes
to
the
exterior
and
aesthetics
and
we
wholeheartedly
agreed.
That
was
not
something
that
we
were
not
interested
in
doing
anyway.
As
long
as
it
wasn't
financially
constraining
ie
we
added
food.
We
kept
the
materials
on
the
exterior
this
building
and
not
only
instead
of
a
specific
and
generic
metal.
O
We
went
to
tiles,
which
were
more
expensive,
metal
tiles
on
the
building,
just
metal
tiles,
not
metal,
vertical
seam,
metal
tiles,
and
we
specifically
went
with
the
tile
in
the
profile
of
the
of
the
library
in
Uptown
and
because
it's
a
lovely
facade,
it's
a
beautiful
aesthetic
than
acting
into
the
property,
and
then
we
live.
We
went
with
the
brick
towers
and
an
aesthetically
pleasing
streetscape.
O
The
other
thing
that
we
did,
which
I
think
was
very
important
to
note,
is
we
initially
were
going
to
build
the
podium
at
22
feet
23
feet,
because
we
we
thought
we
had
to
based
on
the
topography
difference
the
reason
I
bring.
This
up
is
because
we
went
back
to
word
member
dunder
and
let
her
know
that
we
think
we
can
drop
it
because
she
was
concerned
about
the
massing
along
lyndale
and
we
did
it.
We
dropped
it
three
feet,
so
it
it
made
for
a
it
made
for
a
very.
O
We
tried
to
bring
in
the
massing
down
toward
the
street,
so
it
wasn't
certain
ominous
about
so
when
we
were
denied
at
the
last
Planning
Commission
meeting
I
asked
Don
to
think
about
how
we
could
provide
a
way
to
take
this
and
make
it
an
opportunity
and
I.
Think
if
I
could
appeal
to
you
for
an
additional
11
units,
which
essentially,
is
an
expansion
horizontally
and
maintain
the
relief
that
we've
drawn
in
a
very
thoughtful
and.
O
L
A
O
R
O
O
I'm,
just
taking
that
right
off
the
top
and
saying,
should
we
introduce
because
we
have
an
opportunity,
we
obviously
are
providing
a
discount
or
sure,
as
we
all
know,
that's
their
focus
for
this
area
being
a
food
desert.
Let's
put
a
few
units
here
in
the
form
of
affordable
and
I
would
suggest
that
we
provide
you
and
the
community
which
I'm
part
of
three
additional
units
or
3
units
of
the
11
that
we're
asking
for
in
the
count
toward
affordable
units.
R
F
O
A
lot
it's
a
way
for
those
units
to
be
available
to
somebody
that
wants
to
live
in
a
great
location
like
this
in
the
city
and
yet
be
in
there
an
affordable
way.
You
know
to
say
we
could
go
higher,
I'd
love
to
I'd
love
to
go
higher.
A
number
of
you
honestly
would
I
would
I
would
I
would
feel
it
would
feel
great
to
be
able
to
provide
more
affordable
housing
at
this
project,
but
I
don't
have
a
way
of
offsetting
that
the
constraints
you
receive
and
the
discounting
or
the
rent
income.
O
Obviously,
the
way
that
it
works
now
versus
before
is
I
can
add
rentable
square
feet
by
getting
an
additional
11
units.
So
that's
the
olive
branch,
that's
the
way
in
which
I
would
like
the
Commission
to
consider.
Consider
approving
the
appeal
to
speak
to
a
council,
member
and
Commission
member
Goodman
as
to
those
solar
ready
and
then
what
the
neighborhood
wants.
O
K
O
This
building
more
green
I
get
I
can
actually
access
better
financing
if
I
can
try
to
make
it
more
green,
it's
just
cost
which
I'm
perfectly
willing
to
do
by
the
way.
Just
so
you
know,
I,
don't
know
if
this
is
known.
I
certainly
could
have
gone
with
magic
packs
in
design.
I
didn't
everybody
else
that
you're
approving
project
for
are
going
magic.
Packs
I
mean
most
of.
T
O
I'm
going
heat
Punk,
just
like
lab
45
did
and
I'm
and
I'm
trying
to
be
sympathetic
to
where
we
should
be
going
with
with
these
apartments
and
how
we're
developing
them
and
I
think
what
that
does.
It
does
two
things
number
one.
It
allows
for
energy
to
be
utilized
if
we
do
solar,
if
we
get
solar
in
some
form
or
fashion,
because
these
are
electric,
it
does.
U
O
Allows
more
natural
light
in
the
unit
because
I'm
not
blocking
a
corner
4x4
corner
in
the
room
on
the
exterior
wall,
with
a
magic
pack
that
whole
wall
now
is
open,
so
I'm,
not
the
this
is.
This
is
a
situation
where
you
probably
can't
do
this
based
on,
but
developer
distress
financially.
But
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
we're
it.
O
F
O
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
we've
been
joined
and
should
mention
this
earlier
by
a
council
president
bender
and
councilmember
Goodman,
also
we've
been
joined
by
a
lot
of
other
people.
Would
if
you
plan
on
speaking,
please
sign
in
with
the
clerk.
Finally,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
testimony
with
that
before
I
open
the
hearing.
What
excuse
me
I've
got
a
couple
notes
before
opening
this
to
the
public.
I
respectfully
ask
that
the
testimony
today
is
limited
to
new
and
unique
comments.
Once
the
comment
is
spoken
into
the
record.
A
There's
no
need
to
have
it
repeated
to
in
the
committee's
vote
today
will
be
based
only
on
the
information.
That's
on
the
record.
I
will
also
limit
comments
to
two
minutes
per
person.
We
will
have
the
timer
up
and
running
once
you're
at
the
podium.
Please
state
your
name
and
your
address
for
the
record
and
additionally,
if
you
have
not
already,
as
I
mentioned
before,
please
sign
in
so,
if
you
forget
to
before
you
get
up
there,
just
stop
over
by
the
clerk.
V
My
name
is
Peter
Robinson
I
live
at
26
48
Garfield
Avenue,
which
is
the
same
block
that
the
gentleman
before
me
was
talking
about.
I
have
lived
in
Minneapolis
since
1966.
It
is
curious
to
me
that
I
am
limited
to
two
minutes
and
the
gentleman
before
me
was
allowed
to
speak
as
long
as
he
wanted
to
now.
V
When
I
moved
to
Minneapolis
I
moved
from
the
East
Coast.
This
was
the
farthest
west
I
had
ever
been
in.
My
life
I
figured
that
I
would
live
here
for
about
three
years
and
then
move
back
to
civilization,
and
what
I
found
was
a
wonderful
community.
I
found
a
place
that
was
a
really
enjoyable
place
to
live,
and
I
have
lived
here
ever
since
I
have
not
left
and
I,
as
a
matter
of
fact
do
live
in
this
community.
V
Unlike
the
gentleman
before
me
who
says
he
lives
in
the
community,
but
he
lives
on
50
Street,
which
is
not
within
the
community
by
anybody.
Minh
being
sense
of
the
community.
I
now
live
on
the
very
block
where
they
have
been
demolishing
my
house
for
the
last
two-and-a-half
months
with
tile
driving,
which
they
mourned,
no
one
about
in
which
they
claim
they
have
the
right
to
do
from
7:00
in
the
morning
until
6:00
at
night.
V
I
do
not
yet
know
to
whom
I
have
to
apply
to
have
the
repairs
made
on
my
house
that
have
been
caused
by
that
pile
driver
when
I
drove
down
here
to
this
meeting,
I
noticed
that
the
height
of
the
buildings
is
suddenly
a
great
deal
higher
when
we
are
north
of
Franklin
Avenue
and
less
high
when
we
are
south
of
Franklin
Avenue.
So
it
seems
that
the
encroaching
plan
here
not
of
the
Zoning
Commission
but
of
developers,
is
to
develop
height
of
buildings.
That
will
in
fact
exceed
what
is
south
of
Franklin
Avenue.
V
V
When
I
moved
to
Minneapolis,
the
population
of
the
city
was
four
hundred
and
twenty
five
thousand
people.
It
is
now
merely
three
hundred
and
eighty
thousand.
It
has
not
in
the
half-century
regained
the
population
that,
if
had
before,
people
fled
to
the
suburbs
and
one
of
the
reasons
they
fled
to
the
suburbs,
because
single,
affordable
housing
was
being.
A
V
The
appeal
that
you
have
is
disingenuous:
there
first
thing
that
they
asked
to
be
approved,
of
which
was
denied,
was
essentially
what
they
are
now
asking
for
in
their
appeal.
They
were
asking
it
for
Trader
Joe's.
Now,
Trader
Joe's
is
owned
by
all
DS,
so
they
cannot
now
say
with
any
honesty
that
all
these
has
changed
their
mom
over
what
their
requirements
are.
V
W
My
name
is
blue
della
quani
I
am
a
renter
at
3404,
Emerson,
Avenue,
south
Wharton,
I,
believe
I,
believe
I
wanted
to
vote,
and
I
wanted
to
speak
in
favor
of
this
appeal
as
a
renter
as
someone
who
moved
to
Minneapolis
with
the
hope
of
living
here
a
long
time,
but
with
the
expectation
that
I
will
probably
be
a
renter
for
much
of
that
time.
I
believe
that
we
are
presented
with
a
rare
opportunity
here
of
a
developer,
who
is
sensitive
to
the
realistic
needs
of
this
neighborhood
and
of
its
realistic
future.
W
Neighborhood
I
want
to
encourage
you
to
think
about
the
future
of
people
who
rent
in
these
units,
with
the
understanding
that
they
are
renting
because
they
want
to
live
in
a
city
and
they
want
to
live
in
the
city
that
Minneapolis
is
becoming,
which
considers
the
environmental
impact
of
these
buildings,
but
also
understands
the
rental
needs
of
this
city
at
this
time.
Thank
you.
Thank.
X
Hi
I'm
Danny
Schwartzman,
oh
and
common
roots
Cafe,
which
is
just
off
of
this,
drawing
just
across
the
street
and
I,
live
at
24:01,
Lake,
Place
and
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
really
quickly
in
less
than
two
minutes.
I
said,
submitted
written
comments.
I
hope
you've
had
a
chance
to
review
those
great
and
I'd
had
a
chance
to
meet
with
mark
and
Don
after
the
Planning
Commission
conversation
and
I
actually
do
appreciate.
X
It
I
think
they
do
intend
the
right
thing
and
they'd
like
to
see
if
we're
blousing
here,
which
is
great
and
that's
a
great
asset
for
our
community
I,
would
love
to
see
this
building
be
an
affordable
housing
building.
I
also
believe
that
our
planning
process
and
our
city
processes
should
not
depend
purely
on
economics.
The
developers
create
the
developers
and
the
owner
chose
to
work
on
a
project
with
the
expectation
that
they
would
be
able
to
exceed
our
planning
requirements
that
were
already
in
place.
X
They
applied
for
variances
and
rezoning
and
multiple
things,
and
they
received
many
of
them.
That's
in
the
past.
They
proposed
those
I
would
continue.
Think
that
was
a
mistake,
but
they
received
those
and
now
they're
coming
and
they're
saying.
Well,
we
have
a
tenant,
all
these
a
giant,
multinational
tenant
who
we've
decided
to
work
with,
and
they
have
requirements
that
make
it
so
that
we
cannot
do
things
that
we
would
otherwise
have
been
able
to
do
so.
X
We
must
add
more
units,
so
we
come
view
the
council
to
approve
these
extra
units
that
doesn't
make
any
sense
that
all
these
could
ask
for
whatever
they
want
and
the
developers
and
owner
would
have
to
figure
it
out
now.
I
suggested
I
mean
I
suggested
this
directly
to
them
as
well.
If
there's
a
problem
with
all
these
work
with
all
these,
maybe
all
these
is
being
unreasonable.
Maybe
they
should
find
other
tenants.
Maybe
other
tenants
could
include
great
small
community
businesses,
maybe
a
locally
owned
grocery
store
there.
This
is
certainly
on
a
food
desert.
X
There's
I'm
glad
that
there's
gonna
be
a
good
grocer
nearby,
wedges
right
nearby,
there's
a
lot
of
great
locally
owned
grocery
stores
in
this
vicinity.
I
would
hope
that
that
the
developers
and
the
owner
can
revisit
this
and
look
and
see
what
clean
do
for
our
community
that's
positive.
How
can
we
really
make
this
be?
There's
practically
all
about
it.
Have
me
up
conversations.
I
had
my
first
conversation
with
them.
After
the
approval
before
the
prior
planning
Planning
Commission's
approval,
there
was
no
outreach
to
me,
despite
being
an
immediate
neighbor
I.
X
Had
that
conversation
it
was
great,
then
I
did
not
see
here
anything
until
I
got
a
letter
in
the
mail
saying
that
they
were
applying
for
an
additional
grants
to
exceed
what
they
had
previously
gotten
approved.
So
there
was
a
good
conversation.
We
had
I
think
there's
a
lot
that
could
be
this
project.
I
support
density,
I
support,
affordable
housing,
I
support
growing,
the
neighborhood
I
think
there
is
a
way
to
do
it
that
meets
it
and
is
not
really
based
on
economic
considerations,
which
this
application
is
transparently
and
directly.
N
Hi
and
thank
you,
my
name
is
Sarah
L
fring
I
live
in
24:53
Lyndale
Avenue
South
I
am
a
home
owner,
I
have
a
single-family
home.
My
concern
regarding
this
project
is
I,
can
appreciate
the
the
importance
of
improving
and
increasing
density
and
of
pushing
for
people
to
take
transit
and
be
pedestrians,
etc.
N
All
those
things
that
have
been
brought
up
already,
my
my
concern
is,
is
you
know,
I
want
to
live
in
this
neighborhood
I
want
to
live
in
a
house,
and
I
want
to
have
a
backyard
I,
don't
want
to
run
so
I,
don't
want
to
be
surrounded
by
apartment.
Buildings.
I
want
to
have
other
neighbors
that
are
single-family
homes
and
have
backyards
and
I
just
feel
that
I
can
see
this
creep.
That
is
pushing
me
out
and
I
don't
want
to
be
pushed
out.
I
want
to
live
here
too.
V
A
I
I
These
organizations
really
kind
of
tend
to
cycle
through
and
there's
a
lot
of
differences
of
opinions,
kind
of
based
on
who's
down
the
boards,
both
the
wedge
neighborhood
and
the
Whittier
neighborhood
are
90%
renter
and
there's
a
lot
of
pressure
on
the
renter
populations
in
these
neighborhoods.
As
our
city
is
growing,
we
actually
have
reached
420
thousand
people
in
our
city
and
we're
projected
to
continue
to
grow
far
beyond
that,
and
my
renters
are
feeling
a
lot
of
pressure
and
there
is
a
need
for
more
housing.
I
We
have
a
2%
rental
vacancy
rate,
one
of
the
lowest
in
the
country,
and
those
are
the
reasons
that
a
lot
of
my
constituents
support
new
and
needed
housing
in
the
community.
That
said,
this
project
went
through
a
number
of
months
of
review
conversations
and
because
the
overall
bulk
of
the
building,
it's
a
pretty
long
building
it
takes
up
a
number
of
parcels
along
the
block.
I
There
was
a
readi
of
variance
granted
from
2.5
5
to
3.1
as
part
of
the
original
appeal
or
applications,
and
so
even
though
the
increase
may
seem
slight
23.4,
my
position,
I
think
and
I
agree
with
the
Planning
Commission
is
that
you
know
we've
already
allowed
for
quite
a
large
building
on
this
site,
and
the
approvals
before
should
still
stand.
You
know
I
want
to
note
that
a
lot
of
the
design
of
this
building
has
been
driven
by
the
grocery
store,
and
you
know,
there's
clearly
a
demand
for
a
grocery
store.
I
It's
hard
to
believe,
because
there
are
I
live
in
this
neighborhood.
There
were
three
grocery
stores
within
walking
distance
of
my
house,
and
we
frequently
walk
to
them,
but
this
is
the
second
application
in
about
five
years
for
a
grocery
store
very
near
this
site,
and
you
know
my
concern
was
that
all
of
the
sites
that
were
you
could
consider
putting
a
commercial
use
of
that
size.
This
one
was
already
mostly
vacant.
The
building
had
already
been
torn
down.
I
The
previous
application
for
a
grocery
store
is
going
to
end
up
tearing
down
a
lot
of
existing
buildings,
and
so,
if
you
think
about
where
you
might
want
to
have
a
grocery
store,
if
you
have
one
along
the
lyndale
corridor,
this
site
seemed
as
good
as
any
probably
the
best
that
I
could
think
of.
But
that's
that
again,
you
know
we
there's
I,
think
there's
only
so
much
that
we
can
compromise
on
the
design
of
the
building
to
allow
for
a
grocery
store,
and
the
economics
of
that
use
are
really
not
our
problem.
I
As
a
city
I
think
many
in
the
community
would
prefer
to
see
a
you
know,
the
smaller
scale,
retail,
that's
really
more
in
keeping
with
the
scale
of
most
the
rest
of
the
corridor.
There
are
a
lot
of
people
who
are
excited
about
a
new
grocery
store
as
well.
So
all
that
to
say
I
think
you
know
this
project
is
certainly
complex.
All
of
these
projects
in
the
neighborhoods
are,
you
know,
we're
trying
to
do
infill
development
and
already
built
out
communities.
I
There's
a
lot
of
passion
about
it,
but
I
think
in
this
instance,
given
the
previous
application,
I
think
that
we
have
allowed
a
building
that
fits
in
the
best
and
I
think
even
the
small
expansion
goes
kind
of
back
on
our
commitment
to
the
design
changes
that
we
had
asked
for
a
staff
and
in
my
office,
through
the
community
conversation
on
this
project.
Thank
you.
D
You
mr.
chair
I
wholeheartedly
concur
with
councilmember
bender
I
do
want
to
ask
the
staff
to
draft
findings
of
fact.
For
me,
the
most
persuasive
argument
here
is
that
they,
there
is
just
simply
no
practical
difficulty
that
would
require
us
to
increase
the
fa.
Our
that's
already
been
once
increased
and
I
can
see
where
there
would
be
frustration
on
behalf
of
the
neighbors
when
there's
been
so
much
compromise
already
to
have
a
project.
That's
under
construction,
that's
been
so
disruptive
and
this
one
has
been
substantially
disruptive
the
pile-driving
is.
D
You
can
hear
that
on
a
quite
frankly
on
the
west
side
of
Lake
of
the
Isles,
but
that's
the
way.
Construction
works,
I
guess,
but
I
will
say
that
they
just
simply
do
not
remotely
meet
the
legal
criteria
for
a
variance
of
this
kind
and
I
hope
it
will
tell
other
developers
not
to
come
back
when
your
project
is
under
construction
and
you've
already
gotten
quite
a
few
things
through
that.
A
A
M
M
This
project
went
before
the
City
Planning
Commission
on
January
22nd,
with
several
land-use
applications,
one
for
a
rezoning
from
r4
to
r6
or
the
South
parcel
on
the
site.
A
conditional
use
permit
for
a
Planned
Unit
development,
as
some
committee
members
are
aware,
or
if
they
are
not.
The
conditional
use
permit
for
a
planning
of
development
allows
an
applicant
to
request
certain
exceptions
to
the
zoning
ordinance
in
exchange
for
amenities
provided
in
the
project.
M
M
This
is
a
bird's
eye
view
that
shows
where
the
site
is
located.
It
occupies
a
large
portion
of
the
block
between
those
fronting
streets
that
I
previously
mentioned.
There
is
an
existing
office
building
on
the
site
currently
occupied
by
the
Sons
of
Norway,
proposed
to
be
demolished.
That
tenant
is
intended
to
occupy
the
new
structure
in
the
proposed
commercial
space.
M
Some
land
use
contacts.
The
project
site
is
located
adjacent
to
the
uptown
activity
center
fronts
along
the
West
Lake
Street
commercial
corridor
and
is
guided
by
the
uptown
small
area
plan.
This
is
a
Landy
snap
from
that
plan
that
calls
for
mixed-use
projects
along
the
West,
Lake,
Street
frontage
and
medium
density
housing
along
with
South
parcel.
M
The
plan
also
provides
guidance
as
to
the
type
of
Urban
Development
or
the
type
of
development
that
is
desired
on
those
parcels
and
makes
a
distinction
between
neighborhood
oriented
urban
oriented
and
transit
oriented
at
varying
scales
of
intensity
and
urban
quality.
The
site
has
guided
for
urban
oriented.
In
this
case,
the
up
Johnsonville
area
plan
concentrates
a
lot
of
guidance
on
built
form
and
on
the
desire
to
see
transitions
between
the
denser
parts
of
the
neighborhood
towards
the
lower
density
parts
of
the
neighborhood
single
into
family
homes.
M
The
I
just
wanted
to
try
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
context
on
how
this
project
has
moved
through
the
review
and
approvals
process.
The
the
original
submission
for
the
project
that
went
to
the
City
Planning
Commission
Committee
of
the
whole
was
for
a
larger
project.
I
proposed
a
six
story
structure
along
that
south
parcel
staff,
and
primarily
staff
expressed
concern
about
the
projects,
not
meeting
the
intent
of
the
small
area
plan
with
that
amount
of
bulk,
particularly
along
that
south
parcel.
M
M
This
is
a
site
plan
showing
those
different
parts
of
the
planning
of
development,
as
I
stated
previously,
there
two
principle
structures
as
a
part
of
this
proposal,
one
the
North
Building
fronting
along
Humboldt
and
then
along
West,
Lake
Street,
and
then
the
South
building
fronting
along
Holmes
Avenue
and
31st
Street
West.
They
are
under
the
guidance
of
two
different
zoning
districts.
Currently
the
r4
and
the
c3a.
M
The
applicant
is
requesting
the
rezoning
to
r6
for
that
south
portion
of
the
site.
This
is
a
little
bit
of
analysis
that
attempts
to
get
at
the
differences
between
those
two
zoning
districts
under
the
RF
for
zoning.
There
is
a
maximum
density
requirement
of
1,250
square
feet
per
unit.
As
a
result,
the
maximum
number
of
units
under
the
current
zoning
would
be
38
the
next
floor
area
ratio
under
the
current
zoning
would
be
one
point.
Eight,
seven,
five
and
the
heights
would
be
four
stories
and
56
feet
under
the
proposed
r6
zoning.
M
M
R
M
Parking
proposed
as
a
part
of
the
project,
most
of
that
parking
is
accommodated
in
an
underground
parking
garage
that
spans
the
entirety
of
the
proposed
sites,
and
then
there
is
one
level
of
at-grade
parking
in
the
South
building,
which
is
lying
on
three
sides
with
walk-up
residential
units.
That's
the
state
plan
of
that
south
building.
M
So
again,
in
summary,
the
land
use
applications
before
you
today
are
rezoning
from
r4
to
r6
recommended
the
Planning
Commission
recommended
approval
of
that,
and
then
the
appeal
today
concerns
the
conditional
use
permit
for
planning
a
developments,
variance
to
increase
the
maximum
lot
coverage
site
plan
review
and
then
there's
the
alley.
Vacation
and
preliminary
and
final
plans.
M
The
Planning,
Commission
and
staff
did
impose
some
conditions
of
approval
on
the
project
at
the
Planning
Commission
meeting.
One
of
them
was
to
modify
the
design
of
the
South
building
such
that
it
would
be
divided
into
three
primary
masses
with
glass
walkways
connecting
them
to
add
additional
transparency
through
the
building
from
between
homes
and
and
Humboldt
Avenue,
South
I
know
the
applicant
has
done
some
thinking
about
that
and
may
have
additional
information
to
provide
about
how
they
intend
to
meet
that
condition.
I
You
mr.
chair
first
mr.
Crandall
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
so
much
for
all
of
the
time
that
you've
spent
on
this
project
and
I
just
want
to
say,
you've
gone
really.
Above
and
beyond
our
expectations
for
staff
meeting,
with
my
constituents
on
the
site
and
walking
around
and
answering
I
know,
like
probably
hundreds
of
phone
and
emails
about
this
project,
and
we
don't.
My
colleagues
know
this.
The
way
that
we
staff
our
current
planning
department.
I
I
I
had
a
couple
of
questions
and
I
wanted
to
go
back
to
this
question
about
the
zoning
of
our
four
versus
our
six
and
wanted
to
ask
you
to
explain
in
more
detail
the
difference
between
r4,
r5
and
r6
zoning
in
terms
of
the
numbers
of
units
that
are
allowed,
because
that's
a
really
big
question
here
in
considering
the
rezoning,
the
rezoning
from
our
Fort
r6
has
effects
the
bulk
and
scale
of
the
building.
But
it
also
affects
the
number
of
units
that
could
be
built.
So.
I
M
M
The
primary
difference
when
you
move
from
our
four
to
our
five
and
our
six
is
that
in
our
five
and
our
six
there's
no
maximum
density
requirement,
so
as
where,
as
an
r4,
the
maximum
is
1,250
square
feet
per
dwelling
unit.
The
our
six
does
not
have
a
maximum
density
requirement,
so
certain
things
about
the
project
might
be
similar.
Our
four
has
a
maximum
height
of
four
storeys
in
56
feet.
In
this
case,
the
applicant
is
proposing
five
storeys.
M
I
M
K
M
M
M
That
was
the
principal
thrust
by
which
staff
concern
expressed
concern
about
the
original
proposal
in
the
project
and
requested
that
the
developer
make
significant
alterations
to
that
south
portion
of
the
site
staff
feels
that
there
is
enough
policy
guidance
and
yet,
in
the
underlying
land-use
and
comprehensive
plan
to
support
the
amount
of
density,
that's
proposed
while
meeting
the
bulk
of
the
intent
of
the
small
area
plan
with
regard
to
height
density
and
building
block.
Thank
you
so
much.
D
M
The
part
of
the
block
that
contains
existing
single
entity,
family
homes
is
guided
for
the
maintenance
of
a
lower
density.
The
portion
of
the
site,
that
is,
that
contains
the
South
building
that
we've
seen,
has
got
it
for
medium
density
and
then
the
entirety
of
the
site.
That's
currently
Zone
C
3
a
is
headed
for
mixed-use.
Ok,.
D
I,
don't
have
any
problem
with
the
part,
that's
on
Lake
Street.
That
makes
complete
sense
to
me.
What
doesn't
make
sense
to
me
is
how
you
can
kind
of
say
that
a
transition
from
five
storeys
to
to
stir
is
a
graceful
transition
down.
I
mean
you
can't
you
see
how
that
would
be
different
in
the
eye
of
the
beholder
I,
see
a
graceful
transition
down
being
from
two
stories,
two
three
and
then
maybe
four.
D
But
this
is
like
two
and
then
five,
and
so
you
can
see
why
people
think
that
that's
not
a
graceful
transition
down,
and
then
they
worked
on
a
small
area
plan
that
called
for
medium
density
or
36
units,
which
probably
is
not
enough.
Even
I
would
agree
with
that,
but
to
go
from
35
to
a
hundred
and
what
50
145.
M
D
Is
a
big
difference?
It's
not
just
35
to
145,
so
I
mean
I
can
see
where
I
have
a
hard
time,
understanding
how
you
would
say
that
there's
a
graceful
transition
down
based
on
the
buildings
step
down
to
the
lake
from
two
storeys
to
five.
Perhaps
you
could
explain
to
me
how
the
two
to
five
meets
the
building
step
down
to
the
lake
from
the
planning
departments.
Point
of
view
so.
M
D
So
and
I
would
happily
hear
from
the
proponents
or
the
applicant,
because
they'll
be
given
more
time
how
they
think
five
to
two
is
a
graceful
step
down
and
how
they
think
35
units
to
145
units
is
not
a
gigantic
difference.
Just
focused
on
that,
like
I,
said,
I
have
no
objection
to
the
part.
That's
in
the
commercial
mixed
use
portion
and
its
height
density
bulk
mass,
nor
do
I
have
an
issue
with
the
parking.
I.
Probably
would
build
less
parking,
so
I.
D
A
And
just
to
provide
some
clarity,
we
will
have
a
chance
for
the
applicant
to
speak
and
where
the,
how
I'm
going
to
be
doing
the
process
next
will
be
the
appellant
and
much
like
last
time.
They'll
have
time
to
to
talk
to
their
their
points,
then
we'll
be
hearing
give
a
chance
to
the
applicant
to
speak
any
any
other
further
questions.
Y
Name
is
Loren
orcish,
Crampton
and
I
am
here
as
a
representative,
as
one
of
many
representatives
are
here
for
the
echo
neighborhood
in
appealing
the
approval
of
this
proposal.
I
do
have
some
materials
I'd
like
to
just
hand
out
quickly
that
I
think
it'll
be
make
it
a
little
easier
to
go
through
some
of
this,
since
there
are
so
many
land
use
applications
as
part
of
this
proposal,
chirping.
Y
Y
But
again,
this
is
not
anything
against
anybody
or
anything
in
particular,
it's
more
how
the
policies
work
for
this
proper,
this
property
and
how
how
it's
worked
out
in
practice.
So
what
I'd
like
to
do
first
off
is
the
main
thing
that
were
oh
and
I
should
just
also
say:
I
am
the
reason
I
am
involved
in
this
at
all,
is
I
am
a
resident
in
the
neighborhood.
Our
neighborhood
board
was
very
active
in
initially
reaching
out
to
the
developer.
Y
When
I
was
trying
to
understand
why
the
project
needed
a
rezoning,
a
plan
unit
development,
a
conditional
use
permit
a
variance
and
at
partial
Ally
vacation
to
make
this
project
go
forward.
To
me,
that
indicates
that
this
is
how
far
out
from
the
intention
of
the
underlying
zoning
that
this
project
actually
is
and
how
many
exceptions
to
the
zoning
have
to
work
to
make
it
happen.
Y
My
understanding,
also
as
far
as
the
art
for
zoning,
for
the
South
site,
specifically,
is
that
there
are
certain
amounts
of
increases
in
density
that
could
happen
with
the
conditional
use
permit
or
under
the
planning.
A
development
I
think
it's
20%
of
the
PUD,
but
it
can't
go
to
the
extent
that
the
applicant
wants,
which
is
145
so
for
that
we
also
need
the
r6
don't
rezoning
on
top
of
that,
and
it's
particularly
that
rezoning
that
is
troublesome
to
the
people
in
my
community,
so
correct
context
is
for
31st
Street.
Y
All
right,
so
this
is
31st
Street,
the
the
site.
The
building
site
is
to
the
east
of
this
home
right
here.
This
is
a
single-family
home.
There
are
duplexes
triplexes.
This
is
art.
This
is
all
are
to
be
for
them.
The
overwhelming
part
of
our
neighborhood
away
from
the
corridor
is
all
our
to
be,
which
is
single-family
duplexes
and
then
some
non-conforming
or
regular
triplex
is
sprinkled
through.
Y
This
is
a
process
straight
from
the
proposal
and
again
duplex
duplex
duplex
duplex.
So
this
is
not
a
single-family
stripped
a
single-family
home,
but
it
is
our
TV,
and
so
what
we've
been
trying
to
figure
out
is
again
what
is
a?
What
is
a
logical
transition
from
a
seven-story
building
on
a
commercial
corridor
to
a
residential
street
like
31st
Street
and
the
Uptown
plant,
the
Uptown
small
area
plan,
which,
again,
if
for
those
I
know,
we
have
some
new
members
on
the
committee
and
on
that
City
Council
and
the
small
area
plans?
Y
I
was
fortunate
enough
to
be
on
this
on
the
Planning
Commission
when
they
were
being
codified
all
over
the
city
and
the
intention
of
the
small
area
plans
was
not
to
create
a
plan
from
the
comprehensive
plan,
but
was
to
figure
out
how
the
principles
of
the
comprehensive
plan,
the
land-use
guidance,
could
be
applied
to
each
unique
context.
Town
is
a
unique
context.
Chicago
and
Lake
is
unique
context.
Y
Northeast
is
a
unique
context,
so
what
we
try
to
come
up
with
in
our
plan
was
something
that
that
could
specifically
deal
with
the
unique
context
we
had
here
and
so
what
the
guidance
for
the
zoning-
and
this
isn't
even
from
the
uptown
plan.
Actual
comprehensive
plan
is
to
encourage
development
of
high
density
and
commercial
corridors.
One
point:
10.6
encouraged
the
development
of
medium
density,
housing
on
properties
adjacent
to
properties
on
community
community
commercial
corridors.
Y
So
again,
as
the
planner
said
for
our
purposes,
medium
density
was
listed
as
smaller
scale,
multi-family
residential
20
to
50
units
per
acre,
so
the
art
for
zoning
for
the
Southside
allows
for
35
billion
units
per
acre
at
no
more
than
four
stories.
This
does
not
mean
that
there
couldn't
be
density
added
under
the
r4
zoning.
There
could
be
20%
under
the
PUD
there's
some
other
things
with
CPS.
It
just
can't
reach
the
145
that
the
applicant
is
asking
for,
and
that
is
a
concern
for
the
neighborhood.
Y
Now,
in
the
printed
extensive
appeal
statement
are
forwarded
to
you,
we
go
into
at
length
about
language
in
the
small
area
plan
and
what
the
small
area
plan
tried
to
do
is
to
spell
out
strategies
for
how
we
can
allow
growth
and
end
and
vibrancy
on
the
corridors
where
they
belong,
but
also
allow
for
the
transitions,
as
stated
in
the
comprehensive
plan
to
the
predominantly
residential
neighborhoods.
So
the
idea
was
to
have
allow
for
growth
on
the
corridors,
but
protect
the
edges
of
the
existing
communities.
Y
So
that
way
you
don't
have
masking
creep
and
commercial
stuff
in
places
where
it
doesn't
belong
on
residential
streets.
Now
this
is
this
is
how
we
applied
in
the
uptown
plan,
but
certainly
these
prints
apply
all
over
the
city
any
place.
You
have
a
commercial
corridor.
You
want
to
make
sure
that,
and
that's
what
the
Comprehensive
Plan
we
interpreted
to
say
as
well.
Y
Is
that
that
concern
is
that
you
want
to
make
sure
that
what
happens
on
a
commercial
corridor
that
there
is
a
buffer
between
what's
happening
there
and
what's
happening
deeper
in
the
residential
neighborhoods.
So
and
then.
The
other
thing
that
we
know
is
that
we
have
a
lot
of
speculative
pressure,
real-estate
pressure
in
the
cities
again
and
certainly
in
Uptown,
we
have
quite
a
bit
and
that
we
just
feel
like
this.
Y
Pressure
is
the
up
zone
and
I
want
other
permits,
Antep
UT
to
circumvent
the
letter
and
the
spirit
of
the
Comprehensive
Plan
and
the
Uptown
small
area
plan
undermines
the
ability
of
long
term
renters
to
stay
as
rents
are
driven
beyond
what
they
can
afford.
It
also
serves
to
driver
trends
in
Uptown
and
throughout
the
city,
make
an
affordable
housing,
affordable,
housing
situation
even
worse
and
we're
seeing
that
with
commercial
real
estate.
Y
We
have
a
very
good
relationship
with
all
the
residents
in
our
community
and
we'd
like
them
to
be
able
to
stay.
The
other
point
here
is
to
promoting
growth,
encourage
overall
vitality
by
directing
new
commercial
and
mixed
use,
development,
designated
corridors
and
districts.
So
we
feel,
like
the
145
unit,
the
massing.
Y
This
is
part
of
the
comp
plan,
neighborhood
character
and
natural
features,
minimizing
pedestrian
and
vehicular
conflict,
promoting
street
life
and
activity,
reinforcing
public
spaces
and
visually
enhancement.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
new
neighbors
are
compatible
with
the
old.
The
zoning
for
this
particular
site
was
very
deliberate
as
a
buffer
zone
between
a
commercial
core
in
a
residential
neighborhood.
That's
why
the
massive
rezoning
study
that
happened
after
all
the
smaller
area
plans
were
passed.
Y
This
was
the
Midtown
green,
lay
land,
use
zoning
study
and
that
was
happened
in
2010,
so
that
went
all
the
way
up
and
down
the
Lake
Street
corridor.
All
the
major
intersections-
and
it
was
done
all
at
one
time-
can
make
sure
that
the
regional
goals
fit
this
thing.
So
what
I'd
like
to?
We
have
another
person
from
the
neighborhood
here
and
I
guess
and
talking
about
the
instability
of
this
and
kind
of
how
this
can.
Y
What
we're
seeing
on
the
ground
versus
theories
that
we're
hearing
about
how
you
know
density
brings
like
cheaper
housing,
we're
really
not
finding
that
in
our
neighborhood.
So
I'd
like
to
me
by
Christine
to
just
say
a
few
words
here
dealing
specifically
with
that.
Z
Hi,
my
name
is
Christine
Vincent's
I
live
at
three
one.
Two
five
homes
I
have
on
a
South
apartment.
201
I
have
been
a
renter
at
that
address
for
over
27
years,
the
effects
of
the
speculative
real
estate
market,
the
current
development,
the
variances
that
have
been
granted
on
me,
are
set
this.
My
building
at
the
28
unit
building
has
been
flipped
twice
in
the
last
three
years.
My
rent
has
gone
up
22%
in
that
time.
Z
This
rising,
that
was
without
improvements
to
my
unit,
with
a
decrease
in
the
maintenance,
the
services
and
amenities
to
the
building
which
are
making
overall
the
quality
of
life
less
livable.
The
latest
figures
I
have
heard
for
this
development.
This
new
development
is
that
approximately
375
square
foot
studio
apartment
will
rent
for
$1,200
a
month.
Z
My
rent
is
currently
1020
dollars
a
month
for
a
500
square,
foot
modest
one
again,
and
that
was
what
the
22%
raise
over
the
last
three
years.
I
can't
afford
to
live
in
this
new
development.
I
work
at
the
University
of
Minnesota
I've
been
employed
there
for
13
years.
I
mean
middle
management.
I'm
pretty
firm.
The
middle
class
I
can't
afford
this.
On
my
salary,
my
employer
is
certainly
can't
put
it
on
their
salary.
Z
Most
of
my
co-workers
could
not
afford
this
on
their
salary,
I'm
a
full-time
employee,
but
one
of
the
leading
employers
in
the
Twin
Cities.
That's
ridiculous.
I
choose
to
live
in
this
neighborhood
and
deliberately
chose
to
move
into
this
neighborhood
when
I
was
20
years
old.
Because
of
all
the
things
that
that
we're
hearing
about
this
development,
the
walkability,
the
access
to
transit,
I've
lived
without
a
car
for
a
lot
of
third
of
the
time
I've
been
in
the
Twin
Cities
I
rely
on
that
transit
I.
Take
it
daily.
Z
Z
Z
I
appreciate
that
there's
an
MPR
news
story
on
January
3
recorded
as
saying
put
and,
of
course,
the
post
supporting
housing,
affordability
and
stopping
displacement
in
my
communities
is
the
number
one
priority
of
the
City
Council
and
the
mayor
I
appreciate
the
statement
more
than
you
know,
but
I'm
asking
you
to
apply
it
to
my
neighborhood
because,
as
of
right
now,
the
support
for
this
development
as
it
stands,
is
running
me
out
of
the
neighborhood
I've
come
home,
my
entire
adult
life.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
Y
One
of
the
reports
that
I
sent
to
you
it's
a
Colliers
article
and
it
states
specifically
just
about
national
trends
and
speculative
trends
in
real
estate,
and
they
did
a
special
section
on
Minneapolis
st.
Paul
because
they
say
that
Vinny
Appice,
st.
Paul
has
had
record-breaking
increases
in
real
estate
sales
and
flipping,
and
so
of
course,
every
time
that
that
happened.
Every
time
a
property
is
sold.
You
know
somebody
makes
a
profit
off
that
and
then
eventually
it
trickles
down
to
the
rent.
So
it
does.
You
know,
what's:
affordability
and.
A
Y
What
I
would
just
invite
you
to
do
is
just
to
please
look
at
the
report,
because
what
it
talks
about
specifically,
is
that
the
instability
that
these
up
zonings
and
continued
revisiting
other
zonings
and
spot
rezoning
that
just
sort
of
in
in
overreaching
projects
like
this
inc
in
terms
of
density
and
intensity,
really
feed
the
sort
of
speculative
market,
and
we
all
lived
through
the
last
sort
of
real
estate
boom
and
bust.
What
they're
saying
what
the
collars
article
says
is
that
Minneapolis
st.
Y
Y
They
rate
Minneapolis
st.
Paul,
they
saw
our
medium
income
is
seventy
four
five.
Seventy
four
thousand
five
hundred
our
housing
costs
are
here
comparable
in
Denver,
three
ninety-eight
for
the
same
income,
a
little
bit
above
that
Seattle,
so
based
on
these
kinds
of
numbers,
we're
on
the
map
for
people
who,
especially
from
out
of
state
and
even
international
investors
that
say
boy,
there's
a
lot
of
room
here
to
drive
these
prices
up
and
it
will
still
be
me,
still
be
reasonable
by
national
standards.
Y
So
this
in
turn,
this
again
is
exactly
what
we're
concerned
about
the
variances.
The
see
appease,
the
massing
that
shadows
our
neighbors
and
the
other
final
quantifiable
thing.
I'd
like
to
talk
about
the
density
to
this
site
is
some
of
the
specific
public
health
and
public
safety.
Things
that
have
come
up.
The
city
has
done
its
own
pedestrian
crash
study.
Hennepin
Lake
is
number
four
as
far
as
safety
for
as
far
as
the
highest
amount
of
pedestrian
crashes,
with
the
current
density
and
the
current
car
track,
we
have
now.
Y
Well,
when
you
have
this
development
emptying
out
onto
a
side
street
that
empties
on
into
a
t-intersection
at
Holmes
and
Lake
Street,
for
instance,
and
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
to
get
around
to
go
points
north
down,
Hennepin
further
down
the
lagoon
whatever
and
the
traffic
study
did
try
to
address
that,
even
though
they
did
it
in
October,
rather
than
our
busiest
season.
You
can
anticipate
there'd,
be
a
lot
more,
our
link,
traffic,
a
lot
more
pedestrian
car
conflicts
and-
and
so
that's
kind
of
where
we're
that's.
Y
One
of
the
many
other
concerns
that
we
have
here
so
I'd
like
to
close
with
just
a
statement
of
somebody.
Who's
been
looking
at
these
studies
a
little
bit
more
and
again.
The
goal
of
this
is
not
to
say
we
like
density,
we
don't
like
density
is:
try,
try
to
quantify
what
should
go
where
what
the
existing
context
is
and
and
to
try
to
quantify
the
impact
of
that
rather
than
she's
saying
we
want
it
or
we
don't
want
it.
Y
A
A
U
Sure
Schrader
members
of
the
council,
my
name,
is
Tony
Baraka,
47:16,
Colfax,
Avenue,
south
of
the
Lyndhurst
neighborhood
and
I'll
do
my
best
to
keep
my
comments
brief
and
try
to
address
some
of
the
comments
from
both
council
president
ender,
as
well
as
council,
Councilwoman
Goodman.
First
of
all,
I
wanted
to
thank
and
acknowledge
the
Sons
of
Norway
folks
for
trusting
Ryan
with
really
revitalizing
their
business
on
the
site.
U
I,
don't
think
I
came
to
appreciate
the
investment
that
they've
made
in
Uptown
and
their
business,
as
well
as
the
impact
that
they've
had
on
the
community
and
you'll
hear
from
Ivan
Heiberg
in
a
little
bit
the
CEO
of
Suns
in
Norway
as
well
also
wanted
to
echo
council
president
Bender's
comments
related
to
Peter
Crandall.
He
has
gone
above
and
beyond
to
support
us
in
this
process
and
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
this
is
a
large
site.
U
It's
a
site,
that's
been
it's
in
its
similar
form
for
the
last
five
decades
and
it's
in
a
fully
developed
area
and
for
that
reason,
we've
been
very
proactive
in
outreach
to
the
community,
engaging
in
dozens
of
meetings
with
the
echo
neighborhood
with
wedge
with
these
dials
or
the
Uptown
Association
on
our
own
we've
opened,
we've
done
two
different
open
houses
for
broad
feedback
and
we've
taken
dozens
of
emails
phone
calls
about
it.
One
also
recognized
Monica
Smith
from
the
echo
neighborhood
in
Susie
and
Susie's
here
as
well.
U
They've
done
tons
of
additional
emails
and
other
things
to
support.
Getting
the
word
out.
We
also
whether
we
liked
it
or
not
have
a
lot
of
questions
and
we've
also
received
tons
of
support.
I've
never
had
a
project
that
has
had
two
websites
created
to
support
it
without
our
inducement,
but
that's
been
what's
happened
and
we've
had
a
lot
of
friends.
Come
join
us
for
these
conversations.
U
Also
I'm
thankful
to
the
wedge
neighborhood
for
providing
a
letter
of
support
and
the
unanimous
support
from
the
Plan
Commission
at
our
hearing
on
January
22nd
I'm
gonna
briefly
walk
through
a
couple
parts
of
the
site,
including
some
of
the
things
that
have
changed
since
the
last
meeting.
I'll
try
to
be
brief,
I.
U
Won't
share
the
current
site,
as
Peter
had
gone
through
that,
but
a
couple
of
the
things
that
some
of
the
Planning
Commission
or
the
Planck
researchers
has
discussed
in
council
members
brought
up
today.
What
does
density
look
like
this
is
a
massing
diagram
that
maybe
in
an
earlier
packet
that
shows
what
varying
densities
look
like
on
the
sites.
I'll
take
a
minute
to
point
out
two
projects
that
are
one
completed,
one
nearly
completed
that
are
adjacent
to
the
site
across
Holmes
to
the
east.
U
You
can't
see
my
finger
here,
but
the
mouse
there
shows,
in
the
upper
right
hand
corner
a
project,
that's
across
Holmes.
That
project
is
71
apartments
and
it
fits
on
a
very
small
portion
of
the
site
that
is
253
units
per
acre
and
density.
Just
south
of
that
there's
another
project,
that's
60
units
of
apartments
that
fits
on
it's
about
190
units
per
acre
and
density.
What
we're
proposing
across
the
street!
If
you
take
a
look
at
these
three
massing
points
just
to
the
west
side
of
Holmes,
our
three
individual
blocks.
U
U
From
an
architectural
perspective,
we've
always
tried
to
divide
it
into
a
couple
of
different
points
at
North
Building
in
the
South
building
and
in
each
of
those,
we've
tried
to
create
individual
and
unique
masses
to
show
a
smaller
scale
and
to
also
give
some
context
similar
to
what
you
see
in
Uptown
with
a
lot
of
different
design
masses,
and
this
is
our
interpretation
of
that
in
order
to
address
one
of
the
key
concerns
for
the
neighbors.
As
Peter
had
mentioned.
U
U
U
You
can
take
a
look
at
kind
of
the
middle
right
of
this.
We've
made
a
quick
modification
of
this
plan
to
show
what
that
recommendation
for
Commissioner
Krauser
will
look
like
with
a
pass-through
in
between
that
30-foot
setback
of
relief
on
the
site.
The
other
condition
which
you
can
also
see
in
the
attached
image
is
the
visual
of
the
six-foot
setback.
There
was
a
requirement
again
requirement
provided
in
the
subpoenas
the
January
22nd
plan,
Commission
meeting.
U
U
We've
also
continued
to
redevelop
or
continue
to
work
through
the
exterior
massing
of
this
site,
as
one
of
the
conditions
is
that
we
simplify
the
the
exterior
design
and
we'll
continue
to
work
with
staff
on
that
requirement,
as
we
go
through
so
clearly,
the
section
of
the
project
that
has
gotten
the
most
feedback
has
been
our
South
building
go
back
a
few
pick
pages
here.
The
building
is
reflected
on
the
middle
left-hand
side
of
this,
and,
as
we've
discussed,
that
site
is
currently
zoned
our
four.
U
We
acknowledge
that
we
are
proposing
in
our
six
zoning,
but
the
building
in
terms
of
size
is
very
similar
what
it
could
be
approved
in
an
hour
for
from
an
overall
massing
perspective,
the
r4
allows
for
a
four-story
building
that
is
56
feet
in
height
in
a
hundred
and
1400
square
feet.
Our
proposal
is
for
a
59
foot
high
building
with
a
setback,
the
corner
features
along
Holmes
and
31st
or
47
feet,
or
just
shortly
Sherly
above
that,
and
our
building
size
is
about
a
hundred
and
thirty-eight
thousand
square
feet.
U
U
This
gray
box,
if
an
hour
for
building
would
be
built
with
to
its
maximum
size,
is
what
could
be
built
within
this
area.
Our
project
is
superimposed
underneath
this.
So
again
the
gray
box
refers
to
what
could
be
built
in
the
current
hour
for
zoning.
What's
underneath,
that
is
what
we
are
proposing
in
our
project.
U
This
is
a
little
bit
of
a
better
shot
because
it
does
show
the
three
feet
which
is
represented
in
that
brown
section
above.
That
shows
the
difference.
In
height
there
and
one
of
the
things
I'd
like
to
take
a
quick
minute
to
address
councilmember
Goodman's
comments
about
transition
to
the
neighborhood
I
do
want
to
make
a
couple
of
notes
on
that.
First
of
all,
if
you
take
a
look
at
to
the
right
of
this
image,
there
is
the
Daily
point
project
that
building
tops
out
at
81
feet.
U
Our
building
at
59
feet
as
you
move
to
the
west
is
a
reduction
from
the
81
feet
and
then
the
height
of
the
single-family
homes.
Okay,
I,
don't
think
if
we've
measured
those
but
I'm
guessing
they're,
probably
in
the
high
20s
to
30
feet,
and
so,
if
you
look
at
the
transition
moving
from
east
to
west
you're,
going
from
81
feet
to
59
to
25
to
30
feet,
and
we
feel
as
though
that
is
meeting
some
of
the
intent
of
the
transition
in
height.
U
The
other
thing,
I
think
that's
important
to
note
is
there's
a
transition
is
not
only
in
height,
but
transition
also
is
in
use
type.
We
understand
that
the
transition
coming
from
the
east,
which
is
much
more
commercial
in
nature,
you've
got
Lucia's
and
then
you've
got
the
proposed
retail.
That
would
be
at
the
base
of
Dilla
point.
Our
project
is
all
residential,
so
as
you're
going
along
31st.
U
U
Last
thing,
I'll
just
talk
about
is
project
benefits
and
who
are
served
by
these.
The
site
has
been
an
undeveloped
site.
There's
significant
contamination
on
the
site.
The
site
also
has
no
active
stormwater
management
plan.
This
site
would
remedy
those
and
that
benefits
the
health
and
safety
of
our
community.
U
We
also
firmly
believe
that
creating
new
housing
options
will
help
folks,
like
Christine
with
affordability,
because
if
we
don't
address
in
building
more
supply
in
the
city,
we
are
going
to
continue
to
see
rent
rents
increase
because
there
aren't
going
to
be
enough
options
for
renters.
With
that
I'll
conclude
my
comments
and
open
it
up
for
any
questions.
A
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
questions
from
Council
members?
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you
with
that
I'm
going
to
open
the
public
hearing
portion
of
this
again,
please
limit
the
testimony
to
new
comments.
Only
we've
received
a
lot
of
public
feedback
on
both
sides
of
the
this
project.
There's
no
need
to
repeat
information
and
comments
again
will
be
limited,
two
minutes
per
person,
which
will
be
tracked
by
the
timer
near
the
clerk
and
once
at
the
podium,
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
C
Thank
you
for
letting
us
come
today.
My
name
is
Carol
dines
I
live
at
3245,
herbing,
Avenue,
south
and
I'm
going
to
speak
quickly,
because
I
was
supposed
to
be
one
of
the
opponents
and
I'm
here
today,
because
I
believe
this
building
is
really
bad
urban
planning
for
our
neighborhood
at
the
at
the
31st
Street
corridor.
If
the
goal
in
the
city
is
to
build
walkable,
bikable
spaces,
the
Sons
of
Norway
density
is
not
responsible
planning
in
an
area
that
is
already
highly
congested.
C
Five
months
of
the
year,
the
traffic
study
paid
for
by
Ryan
was
done
in
late
October
and
did
not
take
into
consideration
the
huge
seasonal
uptick
in
traffic
during
the
summer
from
May
through
September,
bday,
makovski
and
uptown
former
regional
destination.
We
we
host
in
this
neighborhood
the
aquatennial
Bastille
Day,
Jazz,
Festival,
Greek
festival,
food
truck
festival
along
with
fundraising,
runs
almost
every
weekend.
Anyone
who
comes
to
Uptown
during
the
warmer
months
knows
that
people
from
all
over
the
Twin
Cities
flock
to
this
to
the
lakes
and
escape
the
heat.
C
The
proposed
sense
of
Norway
will
bring
a
25%
increase
in
population
to
one
neighborhood,
an
estimated
four
to
five
hundred
new
residents.
The
parking
they
are
providing
is
not
adequate.
Three
hundred
and
twenty
three
parking
spaces
for
325
units
is
misleading.
When
you
consider
ninety
three
of
the
apartments
are
two-bedroom
and
the
parking
spaces
for
residents
must
be
paid
for,
and
they
will
be
shared
with
forty
office
workers,
retail
restaurants,
staff
and
pen
patrons
along
with
visitors
to
the
four
and
five
to
five
hundred
residents.
C
A
C
AA
AA
AA
For
working
that
out,
thank
you
for
having
me
my
name
is
Andy.
Finn
I
live
at
to
three
to
seven
meeting
place
in
Wayzata.
My
family
has
been
owners
of
property
and
owners
of
Minneapolis
rag
stack
for
over
33
years.
In
this
neighborhood
we've
seen
a
lot
of
change
in
Uptown,
and
it
could
be
brief.
I
really
support
this
project.
I
think
it's
a
great
added
benefit
to
the
neighborhood
I
think
it'll
be
great
for
my
tenants
in
the
building.
I
think
it'll
be
great
for
my
company
and
that's
all
I
have
to
say
so.
AB
My
name
is
erica
brass:
the
31:13
humble
Avenue
South
I'm
less
than
a
block
less
than
one
block
from
the
site.
In
fact,
my
house
is
on
many
of
those
renderings,
and
this
is
my
oldest
daughter
Morgan,
who
rides
her
bike
in
our
neighborhood
and
walks
to
the
two
loans
of
Byerly's
with
us
on
a
regular
basis.
We
regularly
had
to
dodge
cars
just
crossing
31st
Street,
because
there
aren't
lighted
crosswalks
there
aren't
painted
lines
on
the
road.
AB
It
is
already
a
concern
and
I
stand
here
today,
despite
being
told
how
hopeless
it
would
be,
how
my
voice
wasn't
going
to
matter
and
the
less
I
will
persist
and
I
will
stand
here
on
behalf
of
myself,
my
family,
my
fellow
neighbors,
who
couldn't
make
it
today
to
tell
you
that
I
think
this
is
so
far
out
of
proportion.
We
just
bought
this
home
on
Humboldt
in
2016
and
the
way
that
cars
already
speed
up
our
street
is
has
me
on
edge
with
my
six-year-old
daughter
learning
to
ride
her
bike.
AB
R
You
chair
vice
chair
committee
members.
My
name
is
Peter
Mason,
I,
love,
nice
tiles,
neighborhood,
I'm,
a
resident,
I
think
renter
and
homeowner
is
a
misnomer,
should
not
be
used.
I'm.
A
resident
of
these
styles
of
2530
curvy
Minneapolis,
has
critical
housing
needs,
there's
a
vacancy
rate
about
three
percent
or
lower,
and
if
projects
like
this
are
not
built,
it's
going
to
get
worse,
rents
are
gonna
get
higher.
This
is
the
exact
type
of
thing
that
needs
to
be
built
and
that's
because
of
exclusionary
zoning
that
Minneapolis
has
had
for
a
long
time.
R
The
only
issue
here
is
the
South
building.
This
North
Building
is
172
units.
That's
out
of
question
here.
It's
145
units
in
the
South
building,
where,
as
you
can
see
from
the
picture,
what
they
could
build
as
a
bright,
it's
not
a
height
issue,
as
councilmember
Goodman
noted.
What's
the
graceful
5
to
2,
this
is
the
exact
same
graceful
thing
that
is
under
the
small
area
plan,
with
just
an
extra
three
feet
of
height.
What
it
is
is
the
number
of
units
we
need.
R
More
neighbors
I
was
very
privileged
to
grow
up
in
Minneapolis
Indesit,
the
neighborhood.
We
should
have
more
people
that
have
the
opportunity
like
me,
and
how
can
you
do
that?
You
build
more
housing,
it's
a
mere
supply
and
demand
issue.
You
build
more
housing,
other
housing
become
more
affordable,
so
this
particular
project
may
not
be
affordable
for
some
people,
but
that's
not
the
issue.
R
It's
that
over
all
other
units
will
be
that
people
will
move
out
of
units
because
the
amenities
this
may
provide
and
other
units
would
then
be
vacated
that
don't
have
the
same
amenities
that
would
be
affordable.
This
is
the
exact
cyber
project
and
just
to
address
the
traffic
or
parking
issues.
Well,
first
of
all,
those
are
competing.
If
you
build
more
parking
spaces,
you're
gonna
have
more
have
more
traffic
parking.
Spaces
brings
cars,
no
parking
spaces
doesn't,
but
even
with
that,
there's
an
ax
solution
on
each
of
these.
R
With
the
city
right
now
critical
area
parking
there's
a
project
that
was
down
right
on
the
lake.
They
have
a
critical
area
parking
around
that.
So
if
there's
a
problem
with
parking
for
residents
in
the
area
want
to
store
their
private
vehicles
for
free
in
the
public
right
away,
they
can
do
so
for
twenty-five
dollars
a
year.
R
It's
close
to
three
now
with
critical
parking
permits
and
they're
allowed
ones
or
visitors
as
well
separately,
there's
ways
if
there's
problems
with
traffic
and
how
it
is,
how
fast
there's
bulb
outs,
there's
crosswalks,
there's
tables
that
they
can
build,
that
the
city
has
and
it's
to
do
under
the
Public
Works
that
that
can
be
addressed,
and
so
it's
very
easy,
and
that
should
not
be
the
responsibility
this
developer,
but
the
responsibility
Minneapolis.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
AC
AC
Several
blocks
south
of
the
project,
I'm
active
in
the
neighborhood
having
served
on
the
echo
board
and
led
many
neighborhood
improvement
initiatives,
including
bringing
more
than
a
dozen
rain,
turns
to
her
neighborhood
I've
worked
closely
with
my
neighbors
and
friends,
many
of
whom
work
here
and
while
we
have,
we
all
have
passion
for
a
wonderful,
friendly
and
livable
neighborhood
on
this
proposed
redevelopment.
I
respectfully
disagree
with
some
of
my
neighbors
and
friends.
I
support
the
sons
of
neighborhood
redevelopment
because
it
addresses
many
of
our
cities
and
neighborhoods
goals
and
priorities.
AC
First,
we
have
a
citywide
and
neighborhood
housing
shortage,
and
this
project
is
just
one
of
many
needed
projects
that
begins
to
address
that
shortage.
Second,
our
neighborhood
and
city
have
a
have
made
a
strong
commitment
to
improving
the
environment,
and
this
project
builds
housing
on
a
high
frequency
transit
line
in
walkable
neighborhood,
which
places
our
housing
and
our
city's
people
in
a
place
well-suited,
reducing
driving
trips
in
supporting
our
climate
action
goals.
Third,
our
neighborhoods
businesses
need
additional
local
residents
to
support
them.
Renee,
our
local
businesses
do
best
when
they're
supported
primarily
by
neighborhood
residents.
AC
My
wife
and
I
love
eating
at
Lake
in
Irving,
not
not
be
just
because
of
the
staff
and
food
are
so
wonderful,
but
primarily
because
it
has
become
a
community
gathering
space
where
we
can
see
all
of
our
neighbors
more
residents.
Our
neighbor
has
the
more
formal
and
informal
community
gathering
spaces
will
have
fourth
and
finally
I'm
sick
of
looking
at
this
parking
lot.
When
I
moved
to
Echo
nine
years
ago,
I
was
shocked
that
this
intersection
of
Lake
and
Humble
had
surface
parking
lots
at
three
of
the
four
corners.
AC
It's
only
nominally
better
today,
this
site
could
be
so
much
better
and
providing
more
to
our
neighborhoods
existing
and
future
residents
with
so
much
more
value
than
the
parking
lot
ever
has
I
do
have
some
concerns.
I
originally
had
some
concerns
about
the
height,
particularly
along
31st
Street,
given
the
the
why
Hawaii
thirty-first
is
in
the
fact
that
the
the
the
project
has
come
down
in
scale.
I
said
I
support
the
project
as
it
is,
and
all,
and
like
most
of
my
neighbors
I,
have
concerns
that
the
project
does
not
include
affordable
housing.
AC
AD
My
name
is
Heather
Wolfsburg
and
I'm
homeowner
3,300
homes
just
down
the
street
and
density,
is
the
word
of
the
day
and
I.
Welcome
this.
This
development,
but
I
at
the
buffer
zone
that
South
parcel
everybody's,
been
talking
about.
I,
really
feel
that
our
four
should
be
held
and
the
density
I
feel
like
there
is
a
tipping
point
and
I
think
duck
town
I've
heard
some
article
saying
that
uptown
was
like
one
of
the
densest
parts
of
the
city:
it's
vibrant,
it's
beautiful,
I,
love,
the
city,
I
love
being
a
part
of
it.
AD
I'm
raising
my
family
here,
but
I
feel
there
is
a
tipping
point.
There
I
walk
my
dog
this
morning
and
there
were
six
developments
that
either
are
in
process
or
done
in
Echo
in
you
know,
adjacent
to
it.
So
I
feel
like
you
guys,
are
encouraging
density.
It's
happening,
I,
think
keeping
the
density
level
and
that
self
parcel
is
really
important.
Somebody
wants
to
put
down
roots
and
have
family
they're,
not
gonna.
Do
it
in
a
micro
apartment,
that's
350
square
feet,
they're,
gonna,
move
out,
I.
AD
Think
the
people
who
have
to
support
the
rents
in
these
these
units
are
gonna,
have
to
drive
to
their
jobs
out
in
the
suburbs.
Cars
are
a
reality,
I
hate
to
say
it.
My
biggest
fear
like
this
woman
is
my
kids
getting
hit
by
a
car
in
Uptown.
There
is
mounting
frustrations,
it
is
it's
crazy.
I
have
to
walk
around
and
and
I
know.
That's
a
part.
AD
You
know
we
work
with
public
works,
but
with
this
hundred
and
forty
five
units
are
gonna,
come
cars
or
else
people
who
are
visiting
the
people
with
their
cars
with
the
snow
and
slides
the
streets
stripped
of
parking
cars,
so
I
feel
like
it's.
It's
an
issue.
I
feel
like
it's
a
dirty
word,
but
that's
that's
our
reality.
So
I,
please
the
people
who
are
directly
affected
really
directly
affected
living
in
this
neighborhood
for
decades.
Can
you
please
consider
our
feelings
and
our
quality
of
life
just
vote
for
the
r4?
Thank
you
thank.
A
AE
Good
morning,
my
name
is
Dane
stem
art
and
I
own,
a
small
700
square
foot
condo
on
three
zero.
Three
three
East
Kelvin
Parkway
amongst
nine
mixed
owner
rental
units
I,
have
now
lived
in
Minneapolis
for
14
years,
five
years
in
Dinkytown,
one
downtown
two
and
renting
in
the
Granada,
which
is
right
across
basically
a
street
from
the
sun's
in
Norway
and
I'm.
AE
Currently
in
the
echo
neighborhood
I
am
here
today
to
voice
my
concern
as
an
individual
and
echo
community
member
and
as
a
Minneapolis
resident
I
love
this
city,
our
neighborhoods
and
the
people
who
live
here
and
care
for
it.
I
have
been
fortunate
enough
to
have
a
job
that
takes
me
all
over
the
world
and
I
found
that
this
place
has
the
best
balance
of
community
responsible
development
parks
and
wildlife.
AE
Unfortunately,
now
this
incredible
place
has
caught
the
eyes
of
profit,
driven
development
firms
and
I
am
terribly
concerned
how
the
Sons
of
Norway
development
proposal
has
been
handled.
Our
uptown
small
area
plan,
which
has
won
an
award
for
excellence
for
applying
the
city's
comprehensive
plan,
the
uptown
and
a
thoughtful
innovative
way
by
the
pro
density,
American
Planning
Association,
is
being
trashed.
AE
Our
echo
board
and
community
letters
opposing
this
large-scale
project
have
been
hidden
and
diluted
among
suspicious
citywide
emails
without
addresses
local
developers
who
had
bid
to
stay
within
the
zoning
were
denied
and
our
Planning
Commission
has
turned
a
cold
shoulder
to
the
people
who
physically
live
here
and
know
it
makes
our
community
healthy
now
and
for
the
long
term.
I
have
no
doubt
that
if
this
Sons
of
Norway
project
is
approved,
that
your
decision
will
signal
to
these
global
profit-driven
development
firms.
AE
Looking
the
laughs
past
or
thoughtfully
created
community
zoning
density
balance
and
our
community
and
our
city
are
for
sale
to
the
highest
bidder.
There
are
responsible
project
proposals
that
can
promote
density
and
still
respect
the
current
zoning
for
this
site.
The
city
does
not
owe
this
developer
or
anyone
so
many
exceptions
to
zoning
Comprehensive,
Plan
and
up
town
small
area
plan,
but
they
can
drop
such
a
massive
cash
vacuum
in
the
middle
of
our
neighborhood.
AE
So
I'm
asking
you
today,
as
a
member
as
members
of
the
zoning
and
planning
committee
to
please
uphold
the
zoning
and
the
current
comprehensive
plan
in
Uptown
small
area
plan.
By
deliberating
the
echo
appeal,
let's
turn
this
lot
into
a
responsible
building,
size
density
and
cost-effectiveness
to
build
this
great
community
that
has
drawn
the
world's
attention
we
Minnesotans,
the
bold
north
are
better
than
this.
Thank
you.
Please,.
F
My
name
is
Keith
Shaw,
West
and
I
live
at
31
41
Hampton
Avenue,
which
is
in
the
heart
of
our
of
uptown
I've,
lived
there
for
41
years,
I've
seen
a
lot
of
development
I'm,
an
architect,
I'm
pro
development,
however
I'm
pro
responsible
development-
and
it
appears
to
me
that
what's
happening
here,
is
just
making
favoritism
to
the
developer
and
no
basis
for
it.
We've
already
talked
a
lot
about
the
transition
of
our
four
and
I've
got
an
example.
Next
to
my
house,
they're
doing
a
project.
Lander
development
is
doing
one,
it's
our
four.
F
They
combine
their
setting
back
from
the
street
and
two
storeys,
and
then
they
go
to
four
at
the
alley
and
they
are
responsible
developers
and
they're,
not
maxing
out
the
site,
which
is
most
sort
they
want
to
do
on.
This
project
is
max
it
out
for
the
most
dollars
and
the
most
people
and
I
just
hope
that
the
Planning
Commission
will
stick
to
their
guns
and
make
it
our
four
that's
the
way
it
was
planned
to
be
and
that's
the
way
it
should
be.
Thank
you
thank.
AF
Thank
you
for
letting
me
speak
I'm
on
that
cross.
My
name
is
Linda
hoon
I
have
owned
a
duplex
at
in
which
I
live
in
at
26
and
DuPont
in
Minneapolis,
which
I've
owned
since
1977
I
previously
lived
two
blocks
from
the
proposed
development
and
then
I
lived
when
I
lived
with
by
myself.
I
moved
five
blocks
away,
so
I
I
have
about
50
years
in
this
neighborhood,
so
I
live
in
the
wedge.
AF
AF
This
does
not
take
into
consideration
the
fact
that
the
city
of
Minneapolis
seems
to
want
to
increase
our
population,
and
so
maybe
the
rents
will
go
down
for
a
while,
but
you
increase
the
population
you're
back
where
you
started
so
I
think
this
is
just
another
Ponzi
scheme
to
ignore
the
the
feelings
of
the
people
who
already
live
here,
because
you've
got
us
here
and
we're
not
going
to
move
and
to
bring
in
more
people
to
raise
property
values
raise
taxes.
Then
everybody's
property
values,
everybody's
property
taxes,
go
up
then
rents
go
up.
AF
I
have
to
raise
my
rents
to
my
tennis,
when
my
taxes
go
up.
Okay,
so
I
think
that
we've
got
to
stop
killing
the
goose
that
laid
the
golden
egg.
You
know,
those
of
us
who
are
here
should
have
priority
over
developers
who
aren't
going
to
live
in
the
neighborhood
who
probably
lives
somewhere
else.
You
know
they
have
their
own
lakeshore,
their
own
duck
pond
whatever,
but
we
live
here
and
we're
committed
to
our
neighborhood
and
to
our
properties
to
improving
our
properties.
We
need
to
have
more
families
in
this
neighborhood,
not
more
single
apartments.
AF
A
AG
Hello,
my
name
is
Jo
Huber
I
resided
in
the
wedge
at
2008,
Brian
Souths
I'm
here
today
to
support
the
Sons
of
Norway
project.
For
several
reasons.
One
of
the
things
that
I'd
like
to
acknowledge
is
that
the
sons
in
Norway
is
the
organization
that
initiated
this
development.
They
are
a
local
organization,
that's
been
an
up
town
for
a
long
time,
support
good-paying
jobs
in
the
community
and
have
partnered
with
a
local
developer,
Ryan
that
to
build
a
community
driven
project,
they've
held
numerous
sessions
with
EKKO.
AG
They
also
came
to
Lena,
to
which
I
am
a
part
of
responded
to
our
questions.
Thoughtfully,
incorporated
feedback
and
they've
also
included
a
public-private
partnership
element
in
the
park
that
they
want
to
build
as
part
of
this
project.
A
lot
of
people
have
discussed
the
traffic
that
this
development
would
cause,
and,
yes,
there's
traffic
in
Uptown,
we
live
in
a
city
and
that's
the
price
we
pay
to
live
in
nice,
vibrant
area,
the
apartment
building
that
I
live
in
actually
has
two
spots
for
the
ten
units.
A
lot
of
us
have
given
up
our
cars.
AG
AG
There's
a
pharmacy
and
plenty
of
restaurants
to
walk
and
bike
to
the
other
thing
that
I
would
like
to
say
is
that
Lena
actually
supported
this
project,
and
one
of
the
things
they
outlined
is
that
currently
100%
of
the
storm
water
isn't
managed
on
site,
whereas
this
project
is
committed
to
an
environmentally
responsible
management
of
the
stormwater
in
site
and
I.
Think
that's
important
to
consider.
Thank
you
very
much.
AH
My
name
is
Eric
Hendrickson
who
live
at
3045,
humboldt
immediately
adjacent
to
the
development
so
to
clear
vacations
of
fact,
and
then
this
sort
of
a
general
statement.
So
the
two
clarifications
of
fact
are
directed
to
Tony
barranco,
the
applicant.
So
first
of
all,
he
made
a
comparison
about
the
buildings
across
the
street
with
his
development
and
he
sort
of
said,
look
at
the
same
density.
There's
no
difference
here.
Those
buildings
are
in
the
activity
center
they're
designed
to
be
high-density.
His
building
is
in
the
buffer
zone.
AH
It's
designed
not
to
be
high
density,
he's
comparing
apples
with
oranges
and
the
comparison
doesn't
exist
at
all.
Second
of
all,
he
made
it
incredibly
on
bad
analogy.
He
was
trying
to
say
look
at
we're.
Transitioning
from
commercial
to
sort
of
dense
residential
to
less
dense
residences
were
going
from
east
to
west
and
his
example
was
Lucia's.
Restaurant,
okay,
Lucia's
restaurant
closed
okay
because
they
built
a
development
on
the
corner
and
took
their
parking
all
away
so
I'm.
AH
Sorry,
the
developer
is
so
out
of
touch
that
he
doesn't
realize
that
the
last
development
that
went
in
our
neighborhood
killed
one
of
the
city's
most
beloved
restaurants,
then
they're
just
out
of
touch
with
where
the
the
community
is,
and
that's
my
last
point,
I
think
if
you're
on
the
street,
if
you
are
in
the
echo
neighborhood,
we've
had
people
from
echo,
come
up
here
and
voice
their
approval
of
this
thing
perfectly
fine.
But
if
you're
on
the
street
you
go
to
these
meetings,
you
talk
to
your
neighbors
80.
AH
P
Good
morning
my
name
is
Peter
stark.
My
wife,
Heidi
and
I
live
at
one
446
West
34th
Street,
and
it
angers
me
beyond
words
that
I'm
here
this
morning,
two
quick
things.
First
of
all,
I
lived
in
the
wedge
or
I
lived
on
Colfax.
This
project
would
be
great.
I,
wouldn't
have
350
cars
wandering
through
my
neighborhood
I'll,
get
350
of
my
friends,
we'll
just
circle.
Your
block
for
a
while
see
how
that
works.
I.
A
Could
stop
the
clock
for
a
second
I?
Do
want
to
say
this?
We
want
to
hear
the
issues
and
no
old
boy,
but
what
it's
not
even
you
I
just
also
want
to
say
that
we're
gonna
have
people
that
are
very
passionate
in
this
committee,
going
forward
and
I'm
not
gonna
tolerate
anything
that
goes
a
little
more
personal.
You
were
very
close,
but
didn't
get
there.
I
don't
want
you
to
take
it
too.
Personal
I
won't
go
there,
but
I
do
want
to
let
that
be
no.
No.
P
As
the
gentleman
before
me
mentioned,
this
is
our
neighborhood
and
there's
no
objection
to
anyone
in
Echo
to
development.
That's
not
our
issue.
What
our
issue
is
is
the
the
constant
rezoning
of
this,
the
destruction
of
this
small
area
plan
that
has
been
approved
and
is
being
violated.
Now,
that's
been
said
again
and
again
and
again
and
again
we're
not
against
the
don't
we're,
not
anti
diversity,
we're
not
edit
at
all
we're
not
even
anti
pike,
we're
anti
145
high-density
units
on
that
spot.
So
that's
my
two
cents
thank.
A
A
S
S
The
responses
have
been
given
to
a
resolution
of
that
issue
is
that
people
shouldn't
have
cars
they
should
they
shouldn't
drive,
they
should
ride
bicycles.
My
point
on
that
is
that
not
everyone
is
able,
physically
or
due
to
medical
conditions,
to
ride
a
bicycle
that
that's
point.
In
short,
people
are
going
to
need
to
have
a
car.
S
You
need
to
take
your
children
to
child
care,
school
activities,
medical
appointments,
you
may
have
elderly
parents
that
you
need
to
transport
to
medical
appointments
and
they
aren't
always
in
destinations
that
are
on
bus
lines
or
or
other
public
transportation.
So
my
point
is
that
parking
is
essential
and
it
is
a
huge
issue
and
that
there
is
not
sufficient
parking
being
made
available
either
in
this
development
or
past
about
which
is
what
has
caused
the
the
parking
problem
and
issues.
S
Other
points
that
I
was
going
to
make
have
been
have
been
touched
on.
I
would
like
to
say
that
the
basis
for
the
appeal
is
that
all
the
Planning
Commission's
decision
is
that
it's
arbitrary
and
capricious
number
one
they
are
you
know.
Findings
are
based
on
general
conclusions,
not
supported
by
the
evidence.
Number
two,
the
Commission
did
not
receive
or
consider
and/or
ignored.
S
The
testimony
and
written
objections
of
the
residents
number
three
they
did
not
Commission
did
not
consider
the
cumulative
impact
of
the
multiple
large
developments
that
are
currently
being
built,
as
well
as
those
have
been
been
built
in
the
fairly
recent
future.
So
my
point
is
I'm.
Not
is
enough
thank.
A
AI
So
my
name
is
Jack
disease,
Ives
and
I
live
on
three
to
four
or
five
Irving
Avenue
south
and
I'm,
a
happily
retired
faculty.
Member
of
the
University
and
I
taught
German
and
critical
theory
and
I
just
want
to
make
some
comments
about
what's
been
going
on
here,
because
it
really
angers
B
as
well
as
my
compatriot
over
over
there
and
I
want
to
talk
with
terms
that
are
much
more
honest
and
truthful.
AI
So
I
want
to
talk
about
very
briefly
the
type
of
what
we
might
call
gentrification
of
Uptown,
which
is
really
horrible
and
I
I
come
by
the
way.
I
grew
up,
as
you
could
tell
from
my
accent
in
New
York
and
my
father
fought
with
all
sorts
of
people
like
Trump
and
I
grew
up
in
the
real
estate
family,
where
I
had
to
work
every
summer
in
some
aspect
of
real
estate,
so
that
by
the
time
I
was
22,
I
was
fed
up
by
what
I
call
speculation.
AI
AI
There's
such
a
thing
as
people
who
want
to
make
profit
by
buying
buildings
or
building
buildings
and
not
taking
into
the
consideration
of
people
in
a
community
gentrification
is
alienation.
Communities
are
being
destroyed
when
I
grew
up
on
the
Upper
West
Side
and
Giuliani
became
mayor
of
New
York.
He
destroyed
a
whole
section
of
New,
York
City,
and
it's
actually
going
on
throughout
the
world.
So
just
want
to
close
by
saying
that
the
type
of
gentrification
and
I'll
make
it
very
quick.
I've
got
three
sentences.
I
would.
AJ
Hi
I'm
sandy
Thomas
I
live
at
3,100
homes,
so,
basically,
my
house
is
right
there
and
I'm.
Looking
at
the
property,
I've
lived
there
I've
owned
that
house
for
30
years.
We
bought
it
as
an
investment.
I
was
in
my
20s.
We
were
only
going
to
live,
there
fix
it
up,
move
on
because
that's
what
we
did
I'm
in
real
estate,
we
love
living
there.
Our
daughter
is
now
20
years
old
was
born
there.
So
I
am
as
sad
as
what
this
man
just
said
and
I
agree
with
all
that.
That's
not
reality.
AJ
We
know
that
this
site
I
knew
when
I
was
25
years
old,
that
this
was
gonna
get
developed.
This
is
not
what
I
thought
it
would
be.
They
did
not
think
it
would
be
a
high-rise
the
graves
building
we
were,
we
dealt
with
it.
It's
beautiful
I,
don't
have
a
problem
with
it.
It's
reality.
This
is
different.
This
is
coming
in
there's
too
many
people
the
cars
with
her
getting
hit
by
car.
It's
always
been
busy.
AJ
My
daughter,
it's
a
hundred
times
worse,
so
to
take
it
and
not
be
realistic
and
say
we're
gonna
make
it
bigger,
is
a
problem,
and
we
all
as
much
as
what
he
just
said.
I
agree
with
I
know
because
of
the
business
I'm
in
it's
happening.
We
can't
we
can't
cry
and
scream
I'd
love.
It
lay
in
the
road
I.
Look
at
it
all
day,
my
husband's
so
depressed
about
this.
He
won't
come
because
he
knows
he
doesn't
even
think
he
has
a
voice
to
say
anything.
He
doesn't
like
it.
AJ
I'd
like
to
just
sell
my
house
I
that
that's
I've
lived
here
forever.
I
can't
cuz
I
gotta
wait
til!
This
beast
goes
in
and
I'm
stuck
now
and
I
don't
want
to
move.
But
this
is
the
problem.
In
a
nutshell,
is
it's
too
many
people?
It's
too
many
cars
and
it's
not
gonna
make
rent
prices
go
down.
My
house
is
a
duplex
I,
get
the
highest
rent
of
anyone
in
that
neighborhood,
so
believe
me,
I
get
how
it
works.
I'm
gonna
make
her
rent
cheaper,
we're
guys,
gonna
see
it.
It
owns
it.
AJ
A
A
T
City
Council
members,
my
name
is
Ivan
Heiberg
I
am
the
CEO
for
Sansa
Norway,
located
on
1455
west
lake
street
I
personally
worked
for
Sansa
Norway
in
this
location
for
nearly
16
years
and
on
behalf
of
the
entire
organization.
We
want
to
thank
you
for
taking
time
to
review
these
project
plans.
South
inori's
123
year
old
company
organization
that
has
been
engaged
employer
business
owner
in
our
town
for
over
86
years.
Sansa
nori
is
a
community
of
people
dedicated
to
their
families,
other
members
and
making
a
difference
in
the
world
around
them.
T
While
we
have
enjoyed
our
current
home
and
the
role
that
it's
played
in
the
community
for
nearly
six
decades,
the
physical
space
that
we
occupy
has
not
kept
pace
with
the
growth
and
future
of
our
company.
We
see
that
our
office
is
obsolete
in
certain
areas
in
need
of
repair
and
certainly
not
in
the
highest
and
best
use
form.
T
Despite
our
aging
physical
space,
our
commitment
to
Minneapolis
and
the
Uptown
neighborhood
is
as
strong
as
ever.
Over
the
past
few
years
we
saw
city
the
city
developing
around
us,
and
we
felt
it
was
the
right
time
to
engage
a
partner
who
could
help
us
shape
Suns
the
north
presence
in
Uptown
for
the
next
generation.
T
We
want
to
reinvent
ourselves
and,
at
the
same
time,
be
stewards
of
the
Minneapolis
community
that
we
call
home
in
looking
for
a
partner,
we
were
drawn
to
Ryan
companies
for
the
like-minded
values
and
shared
commitment
to
Minneapolis
they're,
perfect
fit
for
us,
and
we're
really
excited
about
these
plans
and
how
that's
going
to
help
transform
Sons
of
Norway
in
Uptown.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
AK
AK
Palmer
and
I
live
at
3440,
Colfax
and
I'm
here
in
support
of
my
neighbors
in
Echo
and
I
asked
you
to
please
support
their
appeal,
while
I
do
not
live
immediately.
Next
to
this
development,
lungs
is
my
grocery
store.
Wells
Fargo
is
my
bank
and
goes
all
the
time
and
the
traffic
that
has
infiltrated
the
neighborhood
since
the
big
development
building
boom
in
the
last
five
or
so
years
has
just
been
incredible.
It's
nearly
impossible
to
just
pull
out
of
the
loans
parking
lot
to
go
back
to
my
home.
AK
I
worry
about
the
families,
the
children,
the
pedestrians.
We
want
all
these
new
people
to
come
into
the
community
and
we
welcome
them.
The
density
is
an
issue
that
needs
to
be
addressed,
but
it
needs
to
be
addressed
smartly
and
sensitively.
These
are
families
and
children
and,
like
I,
said
it's,
it's
not
directly,
my
home,
but
it's
my
home,
it's
my
neighborhood,
and
these
are
real
lives
and
real
people
and
we're
not
asking
to
not
build
the
building.
It
needs
to
happen.
AK
That
is
a
major
concern
to
me
and
my
neighbors
in
the
car
again,
a
bur
hood
and
others
in
the
area
and
in
Minneapolis
at
the
hole
we
want
to
keep
the
livability
standard
as
wonderful
as
it
is,
and
by
increasing
the
density
in
that
specific
location
right
there.
As
you
come
into
Uptown
from
the
West,
it's
I
feel
like
it's
just
gonna
create
an
even
Harry
your
issue.
H
My
name
is
Marius
bhakti
I
live
at
3427
yourself
and
we've
lived
there
in
August
will
be
35
years.
Oh
everybody's
talked
about
all
the
issues
and
I
won't
bring
them
all
up
again,
except
for
two
things.
One
of
them
is
that
the
graves
building
I
want
to
meet
clarification
as
nine
units
in
it
nine,
as
opposed
to
145.
So
when
we're
talking
about
mass
or
it's
not
apples
and
apples,
it's
apples
and
oranges,
the
other
thing
is
which
haven't
been
brought
up
today.
H
What
was
certainly
brought
up
in
the
planning
particularly,
was
the
supposed
amenities
that
are
being
provided
by
this,
the
Mays
major
complex
that
is
going
and
in
the
fjord,
which
we
kind
of
all
laugh
about
in
our
neighborhood.
But
the
point
of
it
is
talking
about
a
green
space
in
the
middle
which,
from
our
understanding
is
going
to
be
astroturf,
not
a
green
space,
and
the
other
is
that
in
the
winter
we'll
have
a
little
skating
rink
there.
H
H
Let
me
question
that
if
there
it's
time
or
somebody's
loud
out
there
and
if
you're,
paying
$2,500
a
month
for
your
rent,
you're
not
going
to
want
the
public
in
this
little
tiny
space,
either
skating
or
sitting
on
a
bench,
so
I
would
just
question
the
what
the
amenities
are
really
going
to
provide
for
the
neighborhood.
Thank.
AL
Hello,
my
name
is
Andrea
KP
I'm
from
the
Southside.
My
address
is
32
25th
Avenue
South,
although
I
don't
live
precisely
in
this
neighborhood
I'm,
like
many
many
at
Politan,
say
socialize
there
and
I
just
want
to
speak
in
favor
of
the
Sons
of
Norway
project.
I
personally,
don't
believe
that
increasing
supply
alone
will
solve
the
affordable
housing
problem,
but
it's
definitely
an
important
tool
and
I
simply
do
not
understand
what
is
controversial,
about
building
a
five
storey
building
full
of
apartments.
There's
nothing
wrong
with
that.
There's
nothing
wrong
with
people
who
live
in
apartments.
AL
This
is
one
of
the
most
walkable
neighborhoods
in
the
state.
I
would
love
to
see
it
have
more
transit
amenities,
but
there's
currently
at
least
I
know
at
least
six
bus
lines
that
would
provide
easy
access
for
people
to
live
car
light
or
car
free
and
access
jobs
in
downtown
or
walk
or
bike
very
easily
to
downtown.
There's
nothing
wrong
with
this
proposal
and
I
encourage
you
to
support
it
and
support
other
projects
like
it.
If
people
would
like
to
see
more,
affordable
housing
in
Minnesota.
Excuse
me
in
Minneapolis.
AL
Q
Hi,
my
name
is
Cathy
scag
and
I
live
at
32:29,
Irving,
Avenue,
south
and
I.
Want
you
to
think
about
a
couple
of
things.
One
is:
we
talked
all
about
density.
You
know
all
about
that.
We've
talked
about
cars.
We
also
need
to
think
about
the
more
bicycles
that
will
be
there
every
day
almost
I
try
to
cross
on
Irving
Avenue
across
the
lagoon
and
then
go
across
the
next
street.
There
is
not
even
a
stop
sign
there.
Q
Q
In
addition
to
the
fact
that
I
think
it
is
your
role
as
the
city
council
to
be
our
mediators
to
look
for
the
good
of
all
and
the
good
of
all
includes
neighbors
who
have
lived
in
Uptown
for
a
really
long
time,
not
just
new
neighbors
who
will
come
in
and
so
I
want
you
to
think
about
the
bigger
picture
and
what
your
role
as
elected
officials
is.
Is
it
to
help
developers
who
come
from
out
of
state
or
is
it
to
help
people
who
live
here
in
election?
Q
A
L
L
And
a
lot
of
the
sentiments
and
the
emotions
that
are
being
expressed,
but
the
same
Accord
I,
don't
like
the
nanny
state
and
I
think
that,
right
now
a
nanny
state
would
say:
well,
the
intersections
are
unsafe
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
I've
been
biking
and
skating,
walking
around
Uptown
since,
before
all
the
construction
I
remember
what
I
felt
welcomed
in
Uptown
I
think
that
if
there's
more
density,
maybe
there's
gonna
be
more
people
that
look
like
me
and
I
can
feel
welcome
in
Uptown.
L
AM
Yes,
I
would
just
like
to
make
a
motion
to
deny
this
appeal.
I.
Think
that
you
know
it's
a
it's
a
it's
affluent
area.
You
know,
I
know
that
displacement
is
going
on
in
a
lot
of
parts
of
the
city,
especially
you
know
the
area
that
I
represent
and
I
think
that
we're
behind
on
affordable
units,
but
we're
also
behind
on
units
overall,
and
this
project
seems
like
a
reasonable
project.
AM
I
think
the
graphic
where,
if
you
know
where,
if
you
put
just
kind
of
like
a
large
box
in
that
area,
that's
still
a
lot
under
the
current
zoning
was
was,
was
really
informative
for
me,
and
so
yeah
I
just
want
to
move
that.
Thank.
I
You
mr.
chair,
you
know,
I
just
want
to
first
acknowledge
how
stressful
these
kinds
of
developments
are
for
neighbors
and
I
have
a
lot
of
compassion
for
everything
that
has
been
stated
here.
Whether
people
came
to
support
the
project
or
to
oppose
it
or
something
in
between
you've
taken
a
lot
of
time.
I
know,
maybe
ours
have
spent
hours
door
knocking
and
talking
with
each
other
about
this
and
I
know
it
causes
stress
and
that's
something.
That's
that's
hard
to
see.
This
is
probably
one
of
the
most
desirable
neighborhoods
in
the
city
of
Minneapolis.
I
It's
by
the
lake.
It
has
the
Greenway.
It
has
an
amazing
community
school.
You
can
walk
to
a
grocery
store
to
local
businesses,
a
bookstore,
my
family
walks
to
all
of
those
destinations.
All
the
time
from
where
we
live
nearby
and
I
know
that
the
reason
so
many
people
came
today
is
because
you
love
your
neighborhood
and
with
such
good
reason,
it
is
really
truly
a
beautiful
part
of
our
city.
I
I
I'll
just
wait
until
people
are
done
responding
when
the
developer
proposed
an
original
building
that
was
more
about
or
six
building
the
city
said
no,
and
this
building
is
the
scale
of
an
r4
building.
So
then
the
big
question
is
about
how
many
people
get
to
live
here
and
I.
Don't
know
how
expensive
the
condo
units
are
going
to
be
in
the
homes
and
thirty-first
projects,
probably
multi-million
dollar
homes,
I
can't
in
good
conscience,
as
an
elected
official
in
the
city
of
Minneapolis
force
a
developer
to
build
multi-million
dollar
homes
at
this
location.
I
It
just
isn't
consistent
with
any
of
our
policies
on
the
promises
that
I
have
made
when
I
ran
for
office.
It
doesn't
make
sense
to
me
to
say
that
we
could
only
build
38
units
here.
Imagine
how
expensive
those
units
would
be
millions
of
dollars
if
this
is
an
expensive
neighborhood.
If
you
try
to
find
a
single-family
home,
the
costs
are.
The
listing.
Prices
are
five
hundred
sixty
thousand
dollars,
$495,000
eight
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars,
1.2
million
dollars
four
and
a
forty
nine
thousand
dollars.
I
These
are
the
current
listing
prices
of
single-family
homes
for
sale.
In
this
neighborhood,
this
building
will
have
a
number
many
more
two-bedroom
units
than
we
typically
see
in
a
lot
of
the
neighborhoods
that
I
represent,
which
are
more
of
the
you
know.
If
you
go
farther
east
in
my
neighborhood
and
the
lower-income
neighborhoods
that
I
represent,
we
tend
to
get
the
smaller
units,
but
this
will
allow
for
more
options
in
a
neighborhood
that
again
has
so
many
amenities.
I
This
allows
an
option
for
a
family
to
live
in
the
community
and
take
advantage
of
all
the
amenities
we
try.
Riis,
like
we've,
seen
many
move
into
the
other
multifamily
buildings
in
the
neighborhood,
so
I
support
the
motion
and
I
am
really
thankful
for
all
of
the
discussion.
You
know
and
there
are
no
customers
and
has
to
leave.
D
You
mr.
chair
I
agree
with
a
lot
of
what
councilmember
bender
has
said.
I
just
simply
come
to
a
different
conclusion
and
I
do
think
reasonable
people
can
disagree.
For
me
in
many
ways
the
small
area
plan
represents
the
desires
and
wants
of
the
neighborhood
as
it
fits
into
the
larger
context
of
a
city,
and
this
is
an
approved
neighborhood
small
area
plan,
while
36
units
might
not
be
enough.
155
seems
to
be
a
totally
different
small
area
plan
with
completely
different
zoning.
I.
D
Don't
think
it's
really
open
to
interpretation
that
five
storeys
stepping
down
to
two
is
not
the
graceful
stepping
down
that
the
small
area
plan
suggested.
My
issue
is
really
with
the
five
story:
building
not
with
the
density
on
Lake.
Street
I
also
have
no
concern
about
the
parking,
as
I
said.
If
it
were
me,
I
probably
would
build
less
so
for
me.
I'm
mostly
concerned
about
the
impact
of
projects
like
this
on
our
future:
affordable
housing
goals.
It's
almost
like.
We
have
this
republic
republican
s
kind
of
trickle-down
theory
going
on
that.
D
If
you
just
build
a
lot
more,
then
that
will
free
up
units
at
the
lower
level,
but
I
more
see
it
as
if
you
build
a
lot
of
small,
very
expensive
units
per
square
foot.
It's
going
to
increase
prices
in
this
immediate
area
and
I
think
it
will
increase
prices
in
the
word.
I
represent
directly
across
the
street
I
think
there
are
some
good
things
about
this
project.
Clearly
getting
rid
of
surface
parking,
lots,
managing
stormwater
on
site,
I
think
this
is
a
very
good
developer.
Who
has
done
good
work
in
the
city.
D
A
G
Chair
get
just
for
the
record
too
that,
with
with
the
just
to
be
clear
and
for
for
the
new
members,
in
particular
by
denying
the
appeal
you're
effectively
affirming
the
Planning
Commission
action,
so
in
that
regard,
you're
also
adopting
the
city
staff
report
findings.
Thank
you
very
much,
and
and
and
also
just
as
a
reminder
and
I'm
sure
you
know
you
still
have
the
rezoning.
That's
the
application.
A
At
issue,
that's
a
great
sin
transition.
The
next
is
the
our
last
item
on
the
agenda.
Is
the
rezoning
application
an
alley
vacation
that
are
also
part
of
the
Sons
of
Norway
project?
Considering
this
committees,
actions
on
the
appeal
to
force
a
day,
I'll
ask
staff
to
briefly
explain
these
applications
and
how
they
relate
to
our
other
actions.
M
I
A
You
for
there
any
other
questions
on
the
committee
or
a
president
been
benders
motion
is
before
this.
All
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye,
all
those
opposed
say.
No,
thank
you.
The
eyes
have
it
and
the
motion
carries
seeing
no
further
business
before
us
at
this
present
time.
I
am
going
to
adjourn
the
committee.
Thank
you
very
much.