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From YouTube: September 17, 2018 Budget Committee - Police, Fire
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Minneapolis Budget Committee Meeting
A
Good
morning,
we're
here
to
start
one
of
our
first
budget
committee
sessions
with
a
lot
of
meat
in
it,
which
is
the
the
department
by
department
presentation
of
the
details
of
the
mayor's
budget.
So
that's
exciting.
We
have
a
number
of
them
that
will
go
today.
We
tried
to
put
this
in
the
order
of
which
people
showed
a
lot
of
interest,
so
I'd
say
the
most
exciting
ones.
First,
since
we
have
the
chief
here,
we
have
with
us
here
on
the
dais
council
members,
Cunningham,
Johnson,
Allison
and
trader
with
I'm
sure
others
coming
shortly.
A
A
So
I
will
be
keeping
that
list
when
people
want
to
say
that
they
want
to
flag
something
and
I
will
take
it
upon
myself
in
my
office
to
help
start
and
make
sure
that
those
meetings
happen
with
the
right
people
in
the
department
to
invite
others
that
are
interested
in
it
that
express
an
interest
to
be
involved
in
it
and
I
think.
That's
just
one
way
that
we
can
help
the
actual
budget
process
at
the
end
of
the
year
to
be
more
knowable
and
and
just
to
be
more
forthcoming
and
better
than
it
has
been.
A
In
the
past,
so
with
that
we're
going
to
start
with
chief
mid-area,
our
Adamo's
presentation,
we
do
have
a
break
for
lunch.
That
is
scheduled
for
an
hour.
It
will
probably
end
up
being
more
than
that,
because
I'm
not
sure
that
we
will
end
up
taking
the
full
time
with
a
to
this
morning.
So
I'm
just
wanting
to
help
people
plan
for
that.
Welcome,
chief
good.
B
B
A
chair
pomace
on
I.
Don't
know
how
to
take
your
comment
about
me
being
the
most
popular
being
that
I'm,
the
only
one
here
representing
so
but
nonetheless
happy
here
to
pronounce
a
address
our
Minneapolis
Police,
Department's
2019
budget.
So
with
that
wanted
to
provide
a
snapshot,
overview
of
our
department
organization,
chart
and
I
think
oftentimes.
This
gets
overlooked.
B
I
think
it's
very
important,
as
I
have
been
in
my
role
as
chief
I,
really
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
organization
in
the
org
chart
reflected
the
core
values
of
the
Minneapolis
Police
Department,
that
being
trust,
accountability
and
professional
service.
If
you
will
look
at
some
of
the
things
that
I
really
wanted
to
uplift
and
and
and
really
highlight
our
under
the
deputy
chief
of
staff,
we
have
our
health
and
wellness,
which
is
very
important
for
us.
So
long.
B
We
have
talked
about
the
trauma
that
our
community
experiences
and
how
that
has
an
impact
on
the
role
of
us
as
peace
officers,
but
we
have
never
really
been
very
intentional
about
the
wellness
for
our
own
peace
officers
and
how
that's
so
important
to
make
sure
that
the
folks
that
serve
as
Minneapolis
peace
officers
when
they're,
interacting
with
our
community
that
there
is
healthy
and
well,
is
that
they
can
be
also
proud
to
talk
about
our
homeless
and
vulnerable
populations.
Initiative
led
by
sergeant
grant
Snyder.
B
We
knew
that
for
too
long
in
our
communities,
our
homeless
in
vulnerable
populations
have
been
invisible,
which
is
a
very
sad
statement.
We
know
that
the
police
department
interacts
on
a
daily
basis
with
those
community
members
of
ours
and
was
important
for
me
at
that
time.
To
really
do
what
I
could
in
our
space
to
have
someone
kind
of
overlooking
that
effort
would
not
have
projected
what
has
recently
occurred
in
our
city
involving
the
encampment
over
alpha
Hiawatha.
B
But
we
will
continue
to
work
as
a
city
enterprise
to
support
the
efforts
from
the
city
over
there
and
I.
Think
all
of
our
council
members.
Here,
who
are
also
supporting
what
we
can
do
best
for
our
community
members
there?
We
also
see
that
our
procedural
justice,
our
community
engagement
teams,
and
also
we
have
a
is-
is
also
under
that
and
then,
of
course,
all
of
you
know
of
your
individual
precincts
in
your
wards
and
our
investigations.
B
You
know
our
BWC
compliance,
and
that
was
very
important
for
us
as
well.
I
know
that
when
we
had
started
out,
we
weren't
where
we
needed
to
be
and
I
think
we
were
showing
it
about
a
20
percent
compliance
rate
through
the
efforts
of
our
council
members
and
and
certainly
with
our
technology
and
in
our
policy
changes.
B
Quite
frankly,
we
have
gotten
that
up
and
we
still
have
some
room
for
improvement,
but,
as
we
have
looked
at
recently,
an
80
percent
compliance,
that's
very
important
and
we'll
continue
those
efforts
also
under
that
is
our
coal
responder
model.
So
our
officers
going
out
there
interacting
and
engaging
with
members
of
our
community
who
may
be
suffering
from
crisis
and
as
working
along
with
our
professional
health
providers.
That
has
been
very
helpful
as
well,
and
that's
a
part
of
what's
reflected
here
and
I
would
also
say
to
our
get-in
gvi
teams.
B
We
had
a
very
violent
weekend
last
weekend,
but
I
want
to
say
that
our
overall
violent
crime
is
down
and
I
have
to
pay
a
lot
of
credit
to
the
work
of
our
GBI
teams,
who
have
been
doing
a
great
deal
of
work
messaging
to
members
of
our
some
of
our
groups
out
here
in
the
city
that
are
causing
some
of
that
and
trying
to
steer
them
in
the
right
direction.
Just
a
few
challenges
as
I
mentioned
data
drives,
are
working
technology.
That
also
requires
human
capital
to
oversee
that
data
and
technology.
B
We've
seen
that
with
the
BW
CS
and
having
to
review
that,
and
we
also
want
to
continue
to
make
sure
that
we
have
personnel
in
places
with
investigations
particular
as
it
relates
to
domestic
and
sexual
assault
investigations.
That's
going
to
be
very
important
moving
forward,
so
that
is
a
snapshot
of
our
org
chart.
C
A
B
Chair
Palmisano
and
committee
members,
yes,
that
that
has
changed
and
that
as
a
cultural
change
in
our
department
previously
and
I
think
over
the
years
when
members
of
our
department
have
been
suffering
or
needed,
health
and
wellness
resources,
they
certainly
had
some
of
the
opportunities
that
many
other
city
employees
would
utilize
like
EAP
employment
assistance
program,
but
we
never
won.
It
was
never
really
based
in
terms
of
having
qualified
folks
to
to
really
help
us
in.
In
such,
for
example,
fifth
Precinct
over
the
past
year
has
offered
yoga
and
mindfulness
training.
B
C
B
A
Just
as
you
transition
and
do
I
did
want
to
point
out
to
my
colleagues,
some
who've
just
joined
us
that
we
are
using
speaker
management
it'll
just
be
a
way
when
you
put
yourself
in
cue.
I
will
find
the
next
available
opportunity
to
interrupt
the
speaker
and
give
you
the
floor.
So
we
are
using
speaker
management
today.
Thanks
miss
miss
miss
McPherson
committee.
D
If,
if
you
take
the
2018
budget
and
you
decrease
it
by
the
one-time
funding
that
occurred
during
2018
and
look
at
this
number
before
the
2019
change
requests,
our
budget
increase
year-over-year
from
2018
to
2019
by
three
point:
nine
percent-
that's
made
up
of
three
specific
items:
the
first
one
there
is
a
3.3
percent
increase
over
our
base
salaries
and
again
that
is
all
base
salaries.
The
second
increase
is
a
5.2
percent
increase,
which
is
1.9
million
dollars
in
benefits.
D
This
was
primarily
due
to
pension
and
healthcare
costs,
and
the
third
item
is
a
1.2
percent
increase
in
internal
service
charges.
That's
approximately
so
1.2
percent,
approximately
1.2
million
dollars,
and
this
primarily
in
fleet
costs
actually
offset
by
some
savings
in
IT.
So
that's
the
makeup
of
the
increase
from
three
point:
nine,
to
three
point:
five:
three
point:
nine
percent
Germany
question
was
just
specific
to
that:
I.
A
Don't
think
so
I
will
interject
that
something.
This
is
the
first
of
these
department
by
Department
presentations
and
so
something
that
councilmember,
Fletcher
and
I
are
also
trying
to
incorporate
strongly
into
all
of
these
presentations
are
results,
Minneapolis
kinds
of
data,
because
the
police
department
wasn't
actually
scheduled
to
do
theirs
until
October,
sometime
and
yet
they're.
The
first
presentation.
That
is,
why
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
like
we
do
with
every
other
department,
have
the
results
part
first.
D
A
Little
ways
so
thank
you
for
and
so
the
reason
that
the
last
Minneapolis
results,
Minneapolis
that
you
will
see
is
two
years
away
is
because
you
offered
and
volunteered
to
be
part
of
this
first
transition.
Thus
you
were
kind
of
last
year
was
not
asked
of
you,
so
thank
you.
I,
don't
see
any
questions
thanks.
B
The
numbers
you
see
here
reflect
funding
for
8
personnel,
plus
three
vehicles
that
and
that's
2019,
that
you
see
there
the
11
away
that
funding
for
8
personnel
plus
3
vehicles
since
those
officers.
Those
sworn
will
then
be
transferred
back
out
to
precincts
or
investigations
and
the
929,
as
for
the
remaining
years,
which
also
includes
a
$20,000
annual
in
terms
of
fleet,
cost.
B
This
does
increase
the
staffing
civilian
staffing
as
they
replace
the
now
vacant
positions.
When
sworn
personnel
are
moved
out
where
we
are
looking
at
those
8
civilian
positions,
we're
looking
at
1
ft
in
our
crime,
lab
Quality,
Assurance
administrator
for
our
crime,
lab
computer
scientists,
one
FTE
for
our
body-worn
camera
computer
technician,
1
ft
for
a
technology
coordinator.
B
B
That
change
is
due
to
staffing
reductions
in
the
early
2000s,
which
proportionally
impacted
our
civilian
complement,
which
means
we'd
also
need
to
hire
about
64,
more
civilian
positions
to
get
to
those
past
levels.
Similar-Sized
peer
agencies
employ,
on
average,
about
24%
of
civilian
compliment
to
their
staff.
We
are
at
15%
and
again
the
reason
for
the
sworn
that
we
have
in
those
positions
now
was
due
to
that
decrease
that
we
experienced
starting
back
in
the
2000s
in
the
past
practice.
So
thank.
A
E
E
B
Palmisano
customer
Fletcher
you're
absolutely
correct,
so
one
historically,
we
have
not
really
looked
at
and
these
these
current
eight
positions
are
certainly
not
reflective
on
more
of
a
deeper
dive
that
we
need
to
do
in
terms
of
the
overall
organization.
I
do
believe
that
there
are
physicians
that
we
still
need
to
look
for
in
the
department
and
even
some
more
creative
ones,
where
I
believe
our
civilians
could
be
doing.
Those
positions.
B
Data
is
going
to
be
very
key
as
we
move
forward
and
in
terms
of
making
sure
you
know
and
I'll
just
say
this
there's
some
great
technology
and
data,
that's
gonna
be
coming
out
and
one
that
I'm
going
to
be
working
with
some
national
police
and
partners.
It
talks
about
how,
if
we
do
it
right,
we
can
look
at
even
some
of
the
impacts
in
which
housing
education,
how
that
leads
us
into
policing
into
certain
areas
and
and
give
us
a
real,
timely
sense
of
what
we're
doing
right.
What
we're?
B
B
I
don't
have
to
I,
have
to
do
more
of
that
deeper
dive,
but
yeah
I
think
that
there's
certainly
more
of
a
need
for
that
and
as
police
departments
tend
to
go
more
with
technology
and
data,
we're
gonna
need
some
more
civilian
experts
to
to
take
on
those
roles.
So
I
absolutely
continue.
Those
conversations
be
interested
myself
and
looking
at
our
organizational
structure
and
seeing
where
we
can
have
a
good
complement
of
civilians,
doing
these
technology
and
data-driven
work
moving
forward.
So
thank
you.
Councilmember.
F
B
D
Community
Palmisano
councilmember,
we
don't
have
an
exact
number,
but
we
definitely
do
have
more.
We've
done
a
few
over
the
last
couple
of
years
and
we're
trying
to
do
more
and
more.
We
are
evaluating
it.
I
think
there's
two
questions
here:
one
is
what
can
be
civilian
eyes
and
then
the
second
question
is:
we
are
understaffed
with
civilians
and
so
both
those
those
need
to
be
addressed.
And
again
you
know
the
technology,
it's
wonderful
to
get
this
new
technology
or
new
RMS
system,
and
things
like
that
and
a
lot
of
times.
D
People
I
think
have
a
false
sense
that
that's
going
to
reduce
staffing,
but
instead
we
have
more
and
more
data,
better
data,
bate
and
better
information,
but
we
need
to
be
able
to
access
that
information.
So
in
some
cases
and
I'll
talk
specifically
about
the
intelligence
side
of
things,
we
have
both
sworn
and
civilian
right
now
and
the
question
is
what's
the
right
mix,
because
there
is
some
benefit
to
having
sworn
in
some
of
those
positions.
D
F
Thank
you
for
that.
I
just
want
to
share
as
well
that
I
had
the
fortune
of
meeting
the
LGBT
liaison.
Who
is
the
civilian
in
this
position?
He
came
to
my
community
office
hours
to
be
able
to
connect
with
me
and
the
folks
who
were
there.
Amazing
folks
really
were
drawn
to
him
and
I
think
in
ways
that
folks,
maybe
would
have
been
a
little
bit
more
apprehensive.
Had
they
seen
somebody
in
a
uniform
and
so
seeing
that
that
polo
with
the
you
know
that
that
really
made
him
far
more
approach.
Approachable.
F
B
Palmisano
to
councilmember
Cunningham,
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
look
at
for
for
any
officer
is
if
they
have,
if
they're,
going
through
sort
of
any
disciplinary
action
or
what-have-you.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
those
officers
are
in
good
standing,
not
only
with
the
department,
but
that,
as
they
go
back
out
to
the
precincts,
for
example,
that
they
have
great
that
they
have
good
supervision.
That
is
monitoring
that
so
and
I.
Also
I
am
NOT
someone
who
wants
to
transfer
problems.
B
We
want
to
address
them
to
deal
with
them,
and
so,
if,
if
there
are
the
folks
that
are
currently
in
some
of
these
positions,
it's
not
based
upon
disciplinary
reasons,
but
we
always
want
to
make
sure
that
every
person
who
wears
this
uniform,
no
matter
what
assignment
they
are,
that
they're
doing
the
right
thing
are
in
good
standing,
and
so
there
are
times
when
a
person
an
employee
is
going
through
where
it's
it's
pending.
The
investigation
is
ongoing,
where
we
may
reassign
them
from
non
enforcement
duty.
But
again
regard
regards
to
the
outcome
of
that.
B
Cheer
Palmisano
to
comes
president
vendor
those
eight
positions,
those
eight
FTS
there'd
be
one
FTE
assigned
to
the
crime
lab
Quality
Assurance
administrator.
There
would
be
two
FTEs
assigned
as
crime
lab
computer
scientists.
There
would
be
one
FTE
assigned
as
the
body
worn
camera
computer
technician,
1ft
assigned
as
a
technology
coordinator,
one
current
FTE,
LGBT
liaison
and
two
FTEs.
In
our
background,
support.
G
Thank
you,
that's
helpful.
I
did
have
a
couple
of
other
questions.
You
know
I,
think
I,
don't
doubt
that
we
we've
talked
for
for
a
number
of
years
since
I've
been
on
the
council
about
this.
The
fact
that
we
have
a
lower
account
of
civilian
up
to
ease
in
our
department
compared
to
similar
departments,
so
I
think
the
idea
that
we
would
add
more
civilians
in
these
roles
make
sense.
G
And
so
one
question
and
concern
I
have
is,
if
we're
moving
toward
this
idea,
that
we
would
be
using
our
existing
sworn
officer
pool
as
the
new
officers
that
were
putting
onto
the
street
the
eight
new
officers
that
we
would
be
making
less
progress
on
that
on
those
diversification
goals.
Can
you
speak
to
that?
A
chirp.
B
Palmisano
to
come,
president
bender
so
for
context,
so
the
eight
officers,
the
eight
swarm
positions
there
there
are
existing
there
within
our
existing
numbers.
So
it's
not
necessarily
eight
new
hires,
but
but
ones
that
are
currently
there.
We
want
to
and
I
want
to
continue
to
utilize
hiring
new
officers
from
both
our
community
service
officers
as
well
as
we
see
some
diversity.
B
G
G
You
want
to
use
evolving,
how
we
are
as
a
city
and
how
MPD
is
interacting
with
the
public
and
that's
why
I
was
so
supportive
last
year
of
having
community
liaisons
and
having
more
civilians,
be
interacting
with
the
public
on
behalf
of
the
department
and
not
always
having
sworn
officers,
be
that
face
of
our
department.
So
I
just
don't
want
to
lose
that
value
as
worth
talking
about
ways
that
we
can
continue
to
add
staff
to
the
department.
G
B
Navigator
I
would
always
accept
more
and
I
think
that
they'll
play
a
vital
role,
and
so
I'll
continue
to
have
conversations
with
all
of
our
our
council
members
in
that
that
a
certain
is
something
that
community
has
also
expressed
to
me.
They
would
like
to
see
and
there's
certainly
a
need
there.
So
as
the
conversation
went
before
is
how
can
I
do
a
deeper
dive
in
terms
of
other
parts
of
the
organization
where
we
can
look
at
where
civilian
team
members
are
needed?
B
As
a
police
department,
when
we
have
our
trainings
they're
held
over
at
the
intimate
County,
Technical
College
and
one
of
the
changes
that
we
saw,
that
has
impacted
our
budget
is
that
Hennepin
County
Technical
College
has
increased
that
demand
for
instruction
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
more
so
in
2017,
the
cost
for
a
cadet
going
through.
That
training
was
fifty
five
hundred
dollars,
roughly
2018,
with
the
changes
that
infant
County
Technical
College
increased.
That
went
up
to
a
again
that
increased.
B
H
E
I
think
I'm
less
concerned
about
the
budgetary
impact,
although
you
know,
obviously
that's
something
to
think
about,
but
I'm
interested
in
this
sort
of
mandate
to
have
Hennepin,
County,
Technical
College,
providing
the
use
of
force,
training
and
and
other
trainings.
That
I
would
wonder
if
we
might
want
to
have
more
input
into
the
curriculum.
Are
you
feeling
constrained
in
terms
of
how
we
train
people?
Do
you
feel
like
the
training
is
appropriate?
B
Palmisano
to
councilmember
Fletcher.
So
exactly
to
your
point,
so
there's
there's
a
set
of
standard
training
modules
that
the
Academy
will
do
the
benefit
that
we
have
within
our
agency
here.
Is
it
once
our
cadets
or
recruits
come
back
to
us?
We
can
provide
them
and
provide
for
them
specialized
training
specifically
to
us.
So
if
we
want
to
have
training,
that's
focus
specifically
on
CIT
or
a
core
responder
specific
to
Minneapolis.
B
We
can
have
that
if
we
want
to
have
sergeant
grant
Snyder
conduct
training
on
interaction
with
their
homeless
and
vulnerable
populations,
we
can
do
that
from
a
state
level.
I
will
say
that
one
of
the
things
are
added
training
modules
at
the
pulse
board.
Added
was
implicit
bias,
training
and
I
will
say
that
I'd
like
to
say
that
they
probably
took
that
from
our
department,
procedural
justice
and
they've.
B
Also,
some
CIT
training
as
well,
but
I
agree
with
you
that
we
want
to
be
mindful
that
the
training
that
we
are
cadets
and
recruits
anyone
who's
employed
with
us
get
that
it's
real
specific
to
us
as
Minneapolis,
and
so
at
this
point,
I
don't
see
so
much
hampered
by
by
that
we
can
still
tailor
some
specific
training
to
our
employees.
Just.
E
As
a
quick
follow-up,
particularly
on
use
of
force,
there's
obviously
a
range
of
use
of
force,
trainings,
ranging
from
trainings
that
would
really
emphasize
de-escalation
and
use
of
force
avoidance
to
trainings
that
are
really
the.
It
only
takes
a
second
sort
of
you
get
everybody
reaching
for
their
guns
as
quickly
as
possible
kinds
of
trainings
right
and
we've
seen
nationally
just
a
big
variation
and
how
we
do
that.
Are
you
comfortable
with
the
Hennepin
County
curriculum?
Is
that
something
that
you
feel
is
appropriate
to
the
Minneapolis
police
force?
At
this
point,
chair.
B
I
But
you
know
I
think
you
addressed
that
fairly
well,
but
it
sounds
like
we're
increasing
by
$100,000.
So
what
what
is
the
current
tuition
or
training
fees
that
we
pay
and
then
I
have
a
another
follow-up
question
about
the
previous
discussion
about
the
civilian
edition?
So
if
you
want
to
answer
that
question
person,
then
I
can
ask
a
second
question.
B
I
And
and
yeah
we
lose
that
autonomy
of
being
able
to
really
I
mean
cuz.
We're
still
gonna
need
to
do
that
specialized
training
when,
when
they
come
back
to
the
department,
I'm
wondering
about
addition
of
civilians,
that
frees
up
sworn
officers
to
be
able
to
go
back
out
on
the
streets.
Will
that
help
reduce.
B
Cheer
Palmisano
to
council
vice
president
Jenkins,
so
one
at
least
with
this
budget,
with
the
eight
FTEs
we're
talking
about
those
aid,
civilians
I'm,
looking
at
placing
those
eight
sworn
into
a
mixture
of
the
trol
and
investigations
and
I
can
pretty
much
say
that
for
the
investigations,
sexual
assault
and
domestic
assault
is
a
priority
for
us
too,
to
boost
those
those
investigative
teams
up
his
as
far
as
response
time
fire
department,
they
have
kind
of
a
national
standard
of
what
that
looks
like
for
policing.
It
varies
in
a
lot
of
times.
B
B
What
those
response
calls
times
are
and
I
know
that
all
of
our
council
members
also
are
concerned
and
get
information
about
that,
and
so
we
want
to
do
our
best
as
we're
responding
to
those
priority
ones
and
482
calls
and
so
service
levels
as
to
how
precincts
are
staff
I
look
into
all
of
that
as
we're
looking
at
every
year
after
we,
you
know
if
we
lose
folks
through
attrition
when
our
inspectors
are
looking
at.
How
do
we
look
at
our
numbers
now
for
the
precinct?
We
look
at
all
of
that.
B
I
think
it's
important
also
to
work
closely
with
our
MACC
partners
to
look
at
different
times
of
day
when
vom
calls
are
higher
that
helps
our
precinct
inspectors
in
terms
of
their
staffing
appropriately
for
those.
But
those
are
things
we
continue
to
to
to
look
at.
There's
just
no
set
time
different
police
jurisdictions
in
terms
of
their
City
it
just
it
did
varies.
It
really
varies,
but
priority
one
calls
are
those
ones
where
I'm
sure
all
of
you
as
council
members
here
when
that
community
members
bonuses
I,
need
a
police
response
right
now.
B
B
Your
Palmisano
to
counselors
person
in
jenkins,
absolutely
and-
and
we
do
those
monthly
breakdowns
we
we
do
look
at
for
precinct
and
across
city
wide,
which
precincts
are
averaging
the
amount
of
time,
whether
it's
two
minutes
and
36
seconds
for
party
ones.
Compared
to
this.
So
we
look
at
that
absolutely
to
determine
what
that
data
tells
us
in
terms
of
what
we
need
to
do
to
increase
our
efficiency
and
reporting
faster
to
some
of
those
calls
so
yeah,
okay,.
J
You
just
want
to
follow
up
on
your
point
of
the
increase
in
time
that
the
training
is
happening,
the
increase
in
cost
the
increase
in
focus
on
what
Hennepin
County
will
be
doing,
and
you
mentioned
that
we're
not
the
only
jurisdiction
affected.
I
wanted
to
see.
Is
there
something
that
was
driving
this
in
other
jurisdictions
as
part
of
what
we're
doing
just
kind
of
want
to
get
a
little
more
background.
B
Chair
Palmisano,
councilman,
burger
schraeder,
it's
a
good
question.
It's
I'm
sure
over
years
that
that
fee
has
gone
up
a
bit
post
board
mandated
that
there'd
be
increased
curriculum,
focusing
on
I,
believe
again,
implicit
bias,
CIT
training,
there's
another
thing
in
terms
of
proximity
where
we
said
because
Minneapolis
PD,
we
do
not
have
our
own
Academy
per
se,
where
we
run
our
own.
B
We
we
look
at
proximity
in
terms
of
where
our
students
are
work
or
recruits
can
go
to
Hennepin.
County
Technical
College
is
probably
in
terms
of
proximity.
The
easiest
for
us
there's,
there's
other
academies
based
much
further
away,
and
then
we
have
to
account
for
what
that
would
look
like
yeah
we're
kind
of
right
now:
kind
of
beholden,
because
they're,
the
ones
that
are
really
kind
of
guiding
this
the
statewide
training
and
so
yeah.
J
B
Palmisano
councilman
straighter,
so
yeah
I
think
probably
one
of
the
keys
is
now
because
it's
gone
from
16
to
22
weeks
that
added
curriculum
by
posted.
They
just
changed
it
last
year.
So
I
think
that
is
a
key
driver,
the
longer
that
they
have
a
piece
recruits
there.
The
costs
are
going
to
with
instructors
and
everything
else.
B
E
We
went
on
some
very
important
calls
and
we
went
on
some
calls
that
it
actually
seemed
like
we're,
probably
not
calls
that
should
have
been
made
to
MPD
in
the
first
place.
But
where
else
are
you
going
to
dispatch
them
right
if
they,
if
they
come
in,
they
come
in
and
so
I
I
guess?
A
part
of
my
question
is
one
of
the
ways
that
we
can
support.
You
know
one
answer
to
supporting
MPD
in
having
faster
response
times
would
be
increased
staffing.
E
One
answer
would
be:
are
there
functions
that
shouldn't
be
on
your
plate
that
we
can
take
off
of
your
plate
so
that
you
can
respond
most
effectively
to
the
things
that
we
most
need
you
to
respond
to,
and
so
I
guess
I'm
wondering
what
thought
are
you
putting
into
or
have
you
thought
of?
Are
there
particular
areas
of
calls
that
you're,
seeing
or
particular
areas
of
responses
that
MPD
is
being
asked
to
give
that
if
you
really
stop
and
think
about
it,
you
go
cash.
You
know.
B
B
Director
assistant
director,
McPherson
from
MCC,
would
want
to
get
down
and
have
a
conversation
with
her
about
the
CAD
layouts
and
the
different
calls
for
service
and
really
see
if
there's
some
a
lot
of
it
has
just
been
because
we've
always
been
the
ones
to
respond
to
it
and
I
think
we
can
do
a
better
job
of
that.
I
also
think
that
it's
a
benefit
for
our
communities.
If
there's
another
response,
it's
more
appropriate
for
that
as
well.
Folks
get
and
we
talked
about
the
response
times.
B
You
know
if
it's
a
call
that
did
not
require
police
response
and
then
again
it
is
prioritized
to
a
priority.
Three
and
the
officers
show
up
30
minutes
later
and
canal
community's
upset.
If
we
could
have
had
another
response,
it
could
have
got
there
more
faster,
more
appropriate.
So
I
absolutely
think
that
there's
a
an
opportunity
for
certainly
for
me
to
look
at
and
work
with
our
Emmy
CC
to
see
if
we
can't
do
deeper
dive
into
that
and
eliminating
some
of
those
calls
that
we
give
her
the
most
appropriate
response
to
go
to.
B
B
As
I
had
mentioned
earlier
in
terms
of
our
org
chart
the
importance
of
health
and
wellness
training
for
our
employees,
we
are
looking
at,
and
this
is
the
first
time
and
I
want
to
thank
the
council
for
being
in
support
of
the
health
and
wellness
of
our
of
our
employees.
This
would
be
a
program
that
would
be
multi-pronged.
It
would
focus
on
both
mental
health,
mindfulness
training,
physical
and
nutritional
awareness,
but
will
also
integrate
our
early
intervention
system
efforts
with
an
overlap
with
mentoring
and
counseling
efforts.
B
These
funds
would
be
spent
on
consultants
for
training
and
to
evaluate
our
needs
and
develop
programs
that
are
significant
to
the
increase
of
our
health
and
wellness
for
our
staff.
We
have
seen
significant
increase
in
workers
comp
budget
over
the
last
few
years
and
that
one
of
those
figures
is
1.9
million
from
just
a
few
years
ago.
B
While
we
know
that
sick
time
is
a
benefit
for
all
of
our
city
enterprise
employees,
it
certainly
can
have
a
significant
impact
on
overtime
due
to
the
need
in
the
Minneapolis
Police
Department
to
backfill
those
positions.
If
a
third
of
sick
time
was
needed
to
be
filled,
the
overtime
cost
would
be
approximately
1.5
million
for
the
Minneapolis
Police
Department
again.
B
Sick
time
is
a
benefit
for
all
our
employees,
but
we
have
not
done
the
best
job
we
can
in
terms
of
addressing
our
health
and
wellness
of
our
employees,
and
so
this
funding
here
for
health
and
wellness
I
think
will
be
a
an
important
way
for
us
to
move
forward
and
when
we
talk
about
those
relationships
with
our
community
and
that
they're
suffering
from
trauma.
The
fact
that
we
are
able
to
name
now
for
the
first
time
that
our
employees
need
to
have
their
health
and
wellness
supported.
F
You,
madam
chair,
so
chief
I,
just
wanted
to
ask
real
quick.
Was
this
the
$150,000?
Is
this
meant
to
be
a
one-time
or
is
was
the
request
originally
for
ongoing
because
I'm
just
not
sure
if
it's
like
an
investment
so
that
we
build
the
capacity
within
the
department
to
be
able
to
carry
it
out
or
is
this
gonna
be
something
that
we
have
to
continuously
come
back
and
ask,
or
you
have
to
keep
coming
back
and
ask
for
chair.
B
F
In
so
thank
you
for
that
and
I
have
talked
quite
extensively
with
the
leadership
at
the
fourth
Precinct
around,
specifically
improving
constituents,
satisfaction
and
policing
service.
That's
provided
by
the
fourth
Precinct,
because
I
get
quite
a
lot
of
feedback
from
community
members
that
they're
not
particularly
happy
about
the
way
that
officers
are
interacting
with
community,
whether
they're,
victims
or
witnesses
or
whatever
the
case
may
be.
When
I
talk
to
the
leadership,
one
of
the
pieces
of
feedback
that
I
got
was
essentially
reflecting.
What
is
here
which
is
like
there's.
F
There
are
some
both
coming
in
already
amped
up,
and
they
don't
necessarily
have
the
tools
to
be
able
to
calm
themselves
down.
So
this
is
I,
think
really
really
crucial,
and
when
we
were
looking,
it
mentions
around
data.
The
results
in
data
I
just
wanted
to
also
suggest
if,
if
this
is
something
that
ends
up
being
supported
by
the
council,
that
there
I
would
really
recommend
a
data
point.
F
This
is
a
particular
area
that
I
really
want
to
support
as
a
council
member,
because
I
heard
the
fourth
Precinct
leadership
when
they
said
that
this
was
something
that
was
really
needed
so
but
I
wanted
to
reflect
that.
That
was
really
where
that
conversation
came
from
was
ultimately
about
constituent
satisfaction
in
Police
Service.
So
thank
you,
chair.
B
Palmisano
councilman
Cunningham.
Thank
you
for
your
comments
on
that
I
I
would
agree
with
you.
That
is
very
important.
That
is
something
that
occurs
daily
and
the
work
that
officers
are
doing
to
respond
if
they
were
dealing
with
a
priority-one
call
for
a
couple
of
hours,
and
now
they
know
that
they
have
to
respond
to
that
prior
to
3:00
and
they're
an
hour
and
15
minutes
late.
The
callers
it
a
little
bit,
unnerved
and
and
so
very
important
I
will
say
in
terms
of
the
ability
for
officers
to
recalibrate
and
reset
is
very
important.
B
I'll
just
a
story
about
fifth
Precinct
had
started
their
yoga
and
and
some
mindfulness
training
over
there
and
as
inspector
weights
tells
the
story.
The
some
of
the
veteran
officers
were
just
for
margined
and
that
what
do
you
mean
waterfalls
of
rocks?
This
isn't
gonna
do
anything
and
about
two
months
into
it.
Now
those
veteran
officers
are
bringing
their
own
yoga
mat,
so
it
it.
Yes,
so
can
it
can.
F
Work
it's
important,
so
that's
what
I
heard
from
the
fourth
Precinct
leadership.
They
were
like
only
gone
to
about
three
or
four,
because
I
was
skeptical.
I
was
like.
Is
anybody
even
taking
these
yoga
classes
and
they
kind
of
were
like
I've
been
to
about
three
or
four?
So
so
it
is
actually
a
big
hit.
So
I'm
excited
to
see
that
folks
are
open
to
this,
because,
honestly
pushing
that
reset
button
being
able
to
be
mindful
in
between
the
two
interactions
is
what
ultimately
is
community-police
relations.
Thank
you
and.
B
Our
mobile
data
computers,
the
numbers
that
you
see
reflected
here
through
from
2019
projected
out
to
2020
for
these
MDC's,
as
are
known,
are
the
primary
device
used
for
our
non
voiced
data
transmission.
These
are
the
technology
computers
that
our
officers
use
day
and
night
to
go
ahead
and
transcribe
the
reports
and
make
the
reports
our
current
fleet
of
MDC's
dates
back
to
2010.
B
We
have
been
replacing
them
due
to
frequent
breakdowns
for
last
year,
we
averaged
to
approximately
45
breakdowns
a
month
when
those
breakdowns
occur.
They
keep
our
squads
from
being
used
greatly,
impacting
our
operations
and
productivity.
This
funding
helps
us
to
replace
those
needed
plus
ongoing
funding
allows
us
to
be
on
a
replacement
cycle,
so
we
can
keep
those
squads
fully
functioning
and
operational.
B
Currently,
we
have
110
M
old
MDC's.
We
would
be
replacing
those
with
tough
books
and
I'm,
not
a
computer
geek,
but
if
any
of
you
know
what
the
tough
books
are
they're
a
really
robust
dirty,
you
can
pop
them
out
of
the
squad
car.
You
can
take
them
with
you
and
that's
that's
what
the
the
new
technology
it's
better
in
terms
of
efficiency.
They're
also
more
reliable,
better
able
to
handle
our
PIM
software
and
better
able
to
run
both
programs.
We
currently
have
67
books
being
used
for
our
PIMs
training.
B
This
plus
the
18
from
the
100,000
will
go
towards
the
old
squads.
Then
we'll
we
will
do
the
rest
over
the
next
year
and
have
half
to
follow
that
replacement
cycle.
The
life
expectancy
is
seven
years.
The
cost
is
about
fifty
five
hundred
for
one
of
those.
So
that's
where
we
get
the
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
there.
B
E
Thank
You,
chair
Palmisano
chief
we've,
talked
about
one
of
the
critical
mobile
computing
functions
that
we
need
being
printers
and
I'm
wondering.
If
there's
anything,
we
can
do
about
that.
I've
had
conversations
with
officers
where
they've
indicated
that
sometimes
they're,
not
writing
tickets
for
things
that
we
would
want
them
to
be
enforcing,
because
they
don't
have
mobile
printers,
that
they
feel
comfortable
carrying
and
I'm
wondering
if
that's
a
the
technology
doesn't
exist
or
if
it's
something
that
we
actually
could.
You
know
make
an
investment.
E
I
know
it's
very
frustrating
for
some
of
my
constituents
when
they
see
somebody,
you
know
flagrantly
parked
in
a
place
that
they're
not
supposed
to
be
parked
and
they
see
an
officer
walk
past
that
and
do
nothing
about
it.
And
the
reason,
of
course,
is
that
we're
not
allowing
handwritten
tickets
anymore,
and
so,
if
they
don't
have
a
mobile
printing
device,
they're
not
able
to
do
that
and
I
think
that's
a
real
gap
that
we've
created
by
upgrading
technology.
E
B
D
Committee,
chair,
Palmisano,
counts
members,
we
do
know
the
ticket
writers
need
to
be
replaced.
The
old
technology
for
the
printers
is
poor.
At
best
of
my
opinion,
non-tech
opinion
here,
but
we
are
lieutenant.
Rugel
is
now
in
charge
of
our
BTU
unit
and
that's
one
of
the
things
he's
looking
at
in
2018.
D
We
don't
have
an
answer
on
what
that's
going
to
look
at.
We
are
using
I
think
it's
brake
services,
some
of
theirs
as
a
trial
basis
yeah,
but
we're
gonna
be
expanding
that
and
looking
at
other
options.
So
at
this
point
we
don't
know
what
we're
going
to
go
to,
but
we
definitely
need
to
know
that
we
need
to
go
to
something
different
than
what
we
have
currently.
E
I'll
just
Express
a
sense
of
urgency
around
this
question.
I
think
it's
something.
I
have
constituents
constantly.
You
know
tweeting
at
me,
saying
like.
Why
is
MPD
not
doing
anything
about
this
and
I
think
you
know
the
fact
that
there's
some
practical
barriers
to
us
doing
any
kind
of
an
enforcement
program
around,
for
example,
parking
in
bike
lanes.
You
know
it's
it's
something
that
I
I
wouldn't
want
to
have
wait
until
you
know
the
2019
budgets
like
over
2020.
If
it's
something
that
we
can
make
some
progress
on
it
like
that
Thank
You,
councilmember,.
I
B
Palmisano
to
councillors,
president
Jenkins
so
on,
they
shouldn't
be
idling
for
hours
at
a
time,
the
tough
books,
because
there
and
again
not
being
a
technology
person,
but
my
understanding
is
because
they
were
plate.
You
can
take
them
out
pop
them
up
it
shouldn't
require
unless
I'm
wrong.
It
shouldn't
require
them
to
be
idling,
to
get
their
cars
to
idle
for
a
long
time
to
boot
up,
and
you
can
pop
those
things
right
out
and
take
them
into
the
precincts
what-have-you.
So.
I
B
Cheer
pumps
on
two
accounts:
vice-president
Jenkins
yeah,
with
with
these
talk
books
and
I've,
actually
used
one
before
I
mean
you
don't
require
idling
to
to
get
it
to
boot,
up
and
what-have-you.
So
with
these
here.
That
should,
if
there's
any
talk
or
concern
about
that,
that
should
help
in
that
so
yeah.
I
A
B
Next
is
our
body:
camera
interface
along
the
same
lines
of
technology
and
I
will
say
that
this
is
one
that,
through
some
very
intentional
conversations
by
chair
Palmisano
you
a
customer,
Fletcher
and
others
as
relates
to
the
BWC
s.
This
will
be
very
helpful
and,
as
we
talk
about
our
compliance
with
body,
worn
cameras
and
our
audits,
this
new
technology
will
basically
grab
that
video
and
grab
that
CCM
that
case
control
number
and
match
them.
Together.
B
We
saw
that
when
our
compliance
numbers
were
very
low,
one
factor
had
to
do
with
this
technology,
not
being
integrated
just
some
of
the
numbers
for
quarter
two.
There
was
over
one
hundred
fifty-three
thousand
videos,
but
there
was
no
startup
videos
or
training
videos.
There
was
at
least
almost
7,000
that
were
missing
and
a
case
number.
There
was
700
that
had
an
incorrect
year
and
and
there's
a
couple
of
other
lists
that
go
on
and
on
this
body.
B
Camera
interface
to
our
9-1-1
cad
system
would
help
increase
that
the
efficiency
and
the
compliance
with
our
b
WCS
and
that's
so
important.
We
talked
about
the
human
capital,
that's
needed
to
review
all
of
those
videos
and
if
there's
a
CCM,
that's
not
attached
to
it.
This
body,
camera
interface
would
help
that
so.
B
Again,
along
the
same
lines
with
body
cameras
by
the
end
of
2020,
all
MPD
will
have
been
issued
body,
worn
cameras.
We
have
currently
right
now,
614
deployed
MPD
officers
are
recording
on
average
1,900
videos
per
day
and
June
cameras
were
activated
along
that
82
percent
compliance
number
that
I
had
mentioned
next
steps
that
we
want
to
do
with
this
important
tool
is
have
our
dashboard
development
for
supervisory
and
audit
staff
continue
to
implement,
supervise
our
auditing
program
and
create
this
public
dashboard
for
our
be
WCS
60,000.
B
And
much
of
our
conversation
today
has
been
on
our
responses
to
our
community
and
certainly
our
community
in
crisis.
Our
core
responder
program
has
paid
really
important
dividends
in
terms
of
our
outreach
to
our
communities
and
having
a
different
response
than
one
that
was
oftentimes
uniformed
officers
responding
to
situations
where
they
may
not
have
been
had
the
most
appropriate
training.
B
Our
core
responder
program,
trained
teams,
up
MPD
officers
with
cope
professional
health
service
providers,
and
the
ultimate
goal
is
to
keep
those
in
crisis
at
home
and
not
having
to
transport
them
to
facilities
out
of
their
home.
The
program
in
its
first
six
months
resulted
in
over
almost
1500
people
being
able
to
remain
in
their
homes.
Our
correspondent
teams
responded
to
326
contexts
or
149
of
those
remained
at
home
96.
We
did
transport
to
hospitals,
other
care
facilities.
B
We
had
some
where
they
were
gone
on
arrival
those
community
members,
we
anticipate
even
more
success
with
the
completion
of
the
new
1800
Chicago
building
and
cope,
has
submitted
several
grants,
which
would
also
help
with
costs
in
2019
and
I
know
that
just
recently,
they
were
awarded
a
grant
at
a
significant
grant,
so
I'm
a
firm
believer
and
what
cope
has
done
already,
and
this
would
expand
it
from
third
and
fifth
Precinct
to
the
first
Precinct.
This
also
provides
for
a
unmarked
vehicle
for
the
COPE
team.
Thank.
F
You
madam
chair
I,
just
wanted
to
first
I
want
to
say
that
inspector
wait
has
done
a
wonderful
job,
leading
this
when
she
came
to
show
all
the
data
and
give
me
an
update
on
it.
I
was
I
mean
it's
just
really
great.
Really
great
leadership.
I
I
have
some
concerns
about
the
expansion,
not
including
the
fourth
Precinct
and
in
North
Minneapolis.
So
I
I
was
just
curious
as
to
what
the
data
was
that
drivet
Rove
this
decision
to
not
because
now
we
only
don't
have
it
in
the
second
in
the
fourth
Precinct.
B
B
We
do
know
that
we
have
a
lot
of
our
community
that
are
utilizing
some
services
in
downtown
Minneapolis
or
that
they're
closer
to
those
services
in
downtown
Minneapolis,
whether
it's
those
of
our
community
members
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
or
those
who
fill
the
need
to
stay
close
to,
for
example,
HCMC
in
the
event
that
they
should
suffer
crisis.
We
do
see
a
significant
call
load
of
our
officers
in
the
first
Precinct,
responding
to
check
on
individuals
in
those
communities.
I
do
not
have
data
specifically
for
the
4th
precinct,
but
I
will
tell
you
that.
B
Those
can
come
out
as
domestic
those
can
come
out
as
assaults
or
things,
but
but
there's
there's
there's
a
crisis,
that's
actually
in
play,
and
so
so
part
of
that
dad
I
think
is
gonna
be
skewed
a
bit
because
we
have
not
looked
at
it
in
that
sense,
but
I
do
believe.
There's
absolutely
a
need
for
that,
and
so
I'd
certainly
be
open
to
having
discussions
about
that
and
what
that
looks
like.
But
but
I
would
agree
with
you
on
that
great.
F
If
one
of
the
questions
that
I've
gotten
from
folks
is
like,
how
do
we
make
sure
that
the
county
is
paying
their
fair
share
of
this
program?
Given
that
it's
really
mental
health
intervention
based,
you
mentioned
that
cope
got
a
large
grant
recently.
So
I
guess
I'm
just
curious
how
from
perspective?
How
do
we
partner
better
with
the
county
to
make
sure
like
if
we
want
to?
Let's
say:
expand
citywide
that
we,
as
the
city
don't
have
to
absorb
that
burden,
given
that
the
county
plays
such
a
large
role
in
mental
health
interventions.
B
Cheer
Palmisano
the
customer
cunningham,
so
we
certainly
are
having
those
conversations
I'm
having
conversations
with
lea
kaiser
over
at
the
county.
I
think
that
they
would
tell
you
to
there's
an
e,
probably
citywide
here
in
minneapolis.
I
know
that
they're
there
doing
as
much
as
they
can
in
terms
of
trying
to
secure
those
grants,
and
I
think
it's
again.
B
I
think
it's
very
important
that
we
do
make
sure
that,
in
terms
of
balance
that
city
isn't
taking
on
more
than
we
would
basically,
they
were
leveraging
our
county's
assistance
and
partnership
and
those
fundings
where
we
can
so
well
I'll
continue
to
have
those
conversations
I'll
work
closely.
Director
McPherson
monitors
those
as
well
so,
and
she
certainly
needs
a
stickler
for
speaking
up
to
making
sure
that
we
are
getting
the
the
right
funds
that
we
should
so
yeah
yeah.
G
General
Misano,
my
questions
were
actually
specific
to
this
question
about
the
costs
associated
with
the
program
and
how
much
of
it
is
going
to
especially
trained
officers
and
their
training
and
related
expenses
versus
how
much
we're
paying
to
the
county
for
the
Koch
support
and
I
I
am
very
interested
in
expanding
this
program
citywide
as
soon
as
we
can
so
I.
Think
part
of
the
question
is
the
breakdown
in
costs
between
the
COPE
support
from
the
city's
expenses
versus
the
cost
of
our
officer.
Sure.
D
Community,
chair
and
council,
member
or
council
president
right
now,
the
police
department
is
pretty
much
absorbing
anything.
That's
an
on
cope,
so
this
money,
with
the
exception
of
the
car,
would
go
a
hundred
percent
to
cope.
So
two
hundred
fifty
thousand
would
go
to
cope
to
pay
for
their
people
long
short
term,
we're
hoping
that
the
grants
come
through.
We
have
not
seen
the
budget
for
the
grant,
so
we
don't
know
how
much
was
awarded.
D
Long
term,
though
I
think
there's
a
bigger
question
on
what's
sustainable
again,
where
is
the
division,
because
grants
are
only
good
for
so
long
and
usually
once
the
program
is
up
and
running,
the
grant
goes
away
and
you're
expected
to
handle
the
program
within
your
normal
operating
costs.
So
you
again
with
the
chief
with
inspector,
wait
myself
having
conversations.
This
is
a
long-term
issue
that
we
need
to
determine
how
once
we're
up
and
running
as
as
much
as
we
possibly
can.
Then
what
happens-
and
we
don't
have
an
answer
for
that
at
this
point.
So.
G
D
Yes,
they
are,
and
so
we're
also
using
two
vehicles
specifically
for
the
two
teams
that
are
already
up
and
running.
So
we've
pushed
those
two
that
we
do
have
some
training
we've
sent,
the
officers
they've
actually
been
local,
so
the
training
has
been
relatively
inexpensive,
but
we
have
sent
them
to
some
trainings
to
some
other
cities
to
see
best
practices.
Things
like
that
they
have
sought
the
uniform
costs
which
we
cover,
which
is
not
part
of
a
standard
uniform.
So
we
are
absorbing
some
cost.
D
D
G
Minimal
expense
to
the
city
of
the
officer
portion,
if
we
wanted
to
have
just
one
officer
per
precinct,
would
be
a
total
of
five
officers
plus
the
soft
costs,
but
then
we
would
be
looking
to
the
county
or
other
sources
to
fund
the
COPE.
The
mental
health
portion
of
the
program
is
gross,
but
we
have
been
cut
that
basically
fully
from
the
beginning
of
this
pilot.
That's
correct.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
You,
chair
Palmisano,
so
when
inspector
wait
presented
to
the
Public
Safety
Committee
about
this,
it
sounded
like
we
would
need
to
add
an
officer
and
I.
Don't
see
that
reflected
in
this
change
item
so
is
that
coming
up
it
is
that
reflected
in
the
in
the
eight
additional
capacity
that
comes
from
the
civilian
izing
positions.
Is
that
how
we
get
a
physician
to
to
work
with
the
co
responder
in
the
first
precinct.
D
E
E
B
Chair
Palmisano
councillor
Fletcher,
it
means
yeah,
absolutely
there's
it
there's
a
need
for
that.
Scaling
it
up
would
require
obviously,
instead
of
the
one
officer
in
the
daytime,
obviously
adding
it
so
basically
two
officers
per
precinct
so
yeah
it
would
have
to
bolster
those
numbers
a
to
per
precinct,
as
well
as
to
cope
yeah.
A
If
I
may
interject,
here,
I
asked
a
lot
of
questions
about
that
to
inspect
her
weight
when
she
came
to
present,
and
she
did
say
that
part
of
the
decision
to
staff
Co
responders
when
when
we
did
in
this
pilot
version
of
the
program,
was
both.
It
was
the
hours
that
the
most
voluminous
a
number
of
calls
came
in
in
terms
of
all
of
their
data
on
the
disturbed
calls
that
they
received.
A
It
also
was
to
coincide
with
the
school
day,
because
they
felt
that
this
would
best
serve
students
to
have
something
like
this
able
to
show
up
when
necessary
and
to
make
that
service
available
to
the
schools
in
our
city.
So
that
was
I
know
part
of
the
thought
behind
it,
and
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out.
A
Also
I
wanted
to
mention
to
my
colleagues
that
I
know
that
councilmember
Cano
did
a
lot
of
scoping
of
this
with
the
police
department
in
terms
of
what
citywide
mental
health
correspond
or
expansion
would
look
like
and
I
believe
she
just
sent
that
out
to
everybody
here
on
the
dais.
So
some
of
that
additional
legwork
is
is
here
thanks.
B
We
know
that
many
in
our
communities,
because
of
the
necessity
to
have
vehicles
to
get
to
and
from
work
or
take
their
kids
to
date.
Here
they
may
have
repairs
on
their
vehicles
that
the
require
fixing
but
adding
additional
sort
of
enforcement
tickets
to
that
only
creates
a
more
strain
and
stress
on
that
community.
Member.
B
The
voucher
program
will
have
a
positive
impact
for
some
of
our
most
vulnerable
people,
as
they
may
have
quicker
access
to
needed,
repairs,
avoiding
multiple
tickets
in
pounds
and
possibly
loss
of
jobs.
This
also
improves
street
safety
due
to
more
functioning
vehicles
with
lights,
helps
mitigate
hardships
of
repairs
and
builds
goodwill
with
our
community,
and
so
we
have
already
this
past
year,
had
our
officers
with
these
tickets
out
and
have
gotten
some
really
good
feedback.
B
F
You
I
just
wanted
to
to
ask
real
quick,
Ron
chief
Rondo
about
data
that
will
be
collected
on
this.
Is
there
any
sort
of
measurements
that
are
in
mind
again?
This
is
one-time
dollars,
so
we
might
be
back
here
next
year
and
and
would
just
like
to
be
able
to
have
some
data
to
be
able
to
back
up
potentially
another
one-time
investment.
F
G
You,
chair,
Palmisano
I
believe
this
was
the
last
slide
in
the
presentation.
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
the
way
that
the
city
funds,
public
safety
shows
up
partly
in
the
police
budget,
but
also
through
the
Health
Department
and
our
violence
prevention
work
that
I
know
chief
you've
been
so
supportive
of,
and
really
a
champion
of,
our
investments
in
group,
violence,
intervention
and
our
next
step
program
and
our
youth
waste
violence
prevention
work.
G
G
It
was
an
initiative
of
the
former
mayor,
but
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that,
while
we're
continuing
to
invest
millions
of
dollars
in
the
police
department
every
year
that
we
are
continuing
to
also
invest
in
a
balanced
approach
to
public
safety
that
goes
upstream
and
and
invests
in
violence,
prevention,
too,
and
so
I'm
very
pleased
to
see
that
the
GBI
fun
in
this
proposed
budget
are
proposed
to
be
ongoing
funds.
The
next
step
are
not
and
I.
B
Palmisano
to
council
president
vendor
absolutely
I
think
that
the
work
the
GBI
and
next
step
miss
Connie.
Mr.
Farr
geez
team.
The
teams
over
there
have
truly
saved
lives
and,
as
we
look
at
so
many
of
our
young
people
who
oftentimes
have
had
to
utilize
those
services
but
have
really
walked
away
with
support
and
resources
and
I
can't
speak
enough
about
GBI,
particularly
the
next
step
has
done.
Phenomenal
work
and
they'll
continue
to
be
a
great
ally
and
partner
with,
but
certainly
me
in
the
police
department.
So
yeah
Thank.
F
Last
question
I
wanted
to
see
if
it
would
be
possible
as
we're
going
into
this
this
budget
time
to
get
some
data
on
on
MPD's
performance
while
we're
taking
that
into
consideration,
would
it
be
possible
to
get
data
on
the
cases
in
cases
solved
for
homicide,
assault
robbery
as
well
as
in
the
so?
That's
the
violent
crime
investigations
and
then
within
special
Crimes
Unit
data
on
domestic
assault,
crimes
against
children
and
sex
crimes.
F
Please
I
also
would
be
I
would
like
to
see
some
data
on
the
EIS
and
if
I
could
get
some
feedback
or
data
or
some
narrative
around
the
police,
athletics,
League
and
the
sro
program
as
a
part
of
the
the
juvenile
outreach
work.
Just
curious
about
that,
so
that
we're
able
to
tell
the
story
about
the
work,
that's
happening
and
be
able
to
see
how
that's
impacting
our
community.
So
a
little
bit
of
data
would
be
really
helpful.
Thank
you.
So
much.
A
Other
things
that
I
heard
but
aren't
kind
of
formally
in
this
queue
might
be
around
the
expansion
of
the
correspondent
program
and
or
clever
tees
collaborative
safety
strategies.
Is
there
energy
around
that?
Do
we
want
to
formally
take
that
offline
and
start
a
workgroup
about
it?
I
I
won't.
Unless
somebody
wants
to
speak
up
and
and
say
so.
C
A
So
the
will
of
the
people
here
continue
continue
on
and
end
a
little
early
chief.
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
here.
I
also
wanted
to
recognize
we
do
have
the
chief
public
defender
of
Hennepin,
County
public
defender's
office
here
in
the
audience,
Mary
moriarity
and
a
colleague.
So
thank
you
for
caring
and
being
part
of
some
of
the
important
things
that
we
do
in
our
Police
Department
with
that
we'll
bring
in
the
fire
chief
and
get
started
with
that.
We'll
give
you
just
a
minute
to
do
the
transition
here.
K
You
it's
a
pleasure
to
be
here
again:
I'm
chief,
real,
proud
to
say,
I'm,
the
chief
of
Minneapolis
Fire
Department
I,
don't
mind
I,
don't
mind
following
roundel
being
number
two
that
will
change
on
Saturday
in
the
Battle
of
badges
when
I
finally
win
that
rib
cook-off
again
it'll
be
number
one.
So,
thanks
for
the
opportunity,
the
committee
chairman
Paul
Masson,
I,
really
appreciate
the
opportunity
20:19
mayor's
recommend
a
budget.
Thank.
A
K
I
would
love
to
a
drink
and
I'll.
Do
it
before
that's
fine.
It's
my
right
is
my
finance
director
loose
guard
Ely.
We
have
assistant
chief
Tyner,
we
have
assistant
chief
crews,
I,
have
a
deputy
chief
of
EMS
amber
leis,
and
my
internship
coordinator,
Erica
Prosser
I've
got
some
other
staff
are
here
they're
working
today,
I
just
I
probably
can
say.
We
just
started
another
class
to
recruits
this
morning
at
8
o'clock,
so
they're
busy
with
of
the
class
recruits
month
there,
dr.
Bailey,
feminism.
K
K
The
finance
director,
and
also
we
also
have
administrative
assistant
chief
chief
crews,
as
my
assistant
chief
of
operations,
and
in
that
he
pretty
much,
is
in
charge
of
all
the
day-to-day
operations
of
the
firefighters
out
in
the
districts,
though,
as
he
yeah
he
under
him.
Their
five
district
chief
said
that
they're,
deputy
chief
and
five
district
Chiefs
that
all
work
under
him
he's
pretty
much
in
charge
of
all
the
day-to-day
operations
on
R
on
the
phone
and
late-night
and
pagers
going
off
he's
the
first
one
that
we
talked
to.
We
start
talking
right
away
about.
K
What's
going
on
with
the
different
events,
our
logistic
chief
was
not
with
us
today.
He
pretty
much
takes
care
of
all
of
our
fire
stations.
All
my
fire
trucks
we've
been
able,
over
the
last
few
years
to
get
our
fleet
back
in
line
when
I
first
came
back,
as
chief
our
fleet
was
a
little
bit
of
disarray.
We
had
obviously
with
some
economic
stresses
that
we
had
in
the
city.
The
fleet
became
a
little
bit.
It
was.
K
It
was
certainly
getting
used
and
so
being
able
to
get
that
back
on
track
and
and
working
with
the
folks
in
fleet
and
Public
Works
they've
done
a
really
good
job
of
getting
that
back
on
track.
Amber
leis
deputy
chief
of
EMS,
that's
one
area
that
I'll
probably
talk
a
little
more
and
one
of
my
change
requests.
That
is
a
very
important
element.
What
we
do,
because
that's
about
85%
of
what
we
do
is
AMS
and
that's
one
of
the
changes
on.
K
K
K
Indoor,
our
first
change
ramp,
we
had
for
2019
as
I
spoke
about
earlier.
You
know:
I
grew
up
in
settings.
Our
runs
are
certainly
EMS.
Ems,
probably
commands
about
80
percent
of
what
we
do
today
and
we're
all
very
well
aware
of
the
challenges
the
healthcare
system
has
in
this
country
today.
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
departments.
K
You
know
I
think
and
then
it's
there
and
then
that's
a
trip
to
the
ER
with
a
very
expensive
ambulance
ride
with
a
real,
expensive
firetruck
going
down
the
street.
Maybe
you've
included
many
of
us
PD
officer
depending
on
the
type
of
incident.
That's
a
lot
of
resources
to
put
on
a
number
of
these
runs.
A
number
of
the
runs
that
we
go
on
today.
K
They
may
be
fearful
and
we've
concerned
about
the
medical
condition
they
may
have,
and
they
go
right
back
in
the
ER
system
when
we
truly
I,
don't
think
focus
enough
on
defining
really
what
type
of
medical
care
that
really
need
to
be
able
to
pretty
and
need
to
be
defined
for
them.
So,
overall,
in
in
the
project
going
forward,
we
are
going
to
identify
a
group
whether
it
be
through
some
BLS
work,
which
is
basic
life,
support,
work
and
also
do
them
commute
a
little
bit
of
a
commute.
K
Emt
work,
we're
truly
the
the
needs
of
these
of
the
folks
that
they
have
medical
needs
could
be
defined
and
we
can
assist
with
connect
them
to
the
appropriate
healthcare.
You
know
a
role
in
scope
of
the
role
that
we
play
at
mobile,
integrated
health
care,
I,
think
Asprey,
truly
divine
defined.
What
we're
talking
about
is
something
that
is
relatively
new,
its
innovative
in
the
country.
K
A
lot
of
folks
haven't
gone
to
this
level
yet,
but
I
think
that
I
think
that
our
folks
in
the
citizens,
their
City,
deserve
us
and
deserve
our
best
effort
to
improve
efficiency
and
the
end
outcome.
The
end
of
the
day,
it's
approved
the
improve
the
healthcare
for
the
folks
in
and
outcomes
for,
the
folks
who
live
in
the
city
we've
got.
There
was
a
an
ask
for
five
five
positions.
We
are
going
to
start
out
with
a
beta
study
collaboration
cooperation
with
Hennepin
County
Medical
Center,
that
is
going
to
start
in
January.
K
We're
gonna,
be
ready,
focused
on
how
this
is
going
to
be
rolled
out,
we're
going
to
start
putting
some
data
together
early
on.
So
we
can
come
back
and
report
to
committee
to
find
out
just
where
we're
at
how
this
is
going
to
work.
I
think
it's
gonna
be
very
efficient.
I
think
it
should
be
cost
savings,
we're
not
kanessa
to
have
to
spend
her
sin.
Excuse
me
a
$500,000
fire
truck
down
the
street
to
a
certain
event.
We
can.
K
We
can
put
the
right
right
vehicle
on
the
on
the
right
event
and
hope
they
have
the
the
right
outcome.
So
there
is
some
gonna
be
some
efficiency
in
their
savings
I.
Think
it's
a
exciting
opportunity
for
us.
We
have
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
work
to
do
between
now
and
January.
I
started
this
discussion
almost
six
years
ago
and
has
taken
six
years
to
get
this
point.
We
it's
just
hard
to
move
that
rock.
K
Sometimes
it
is
challenging,
but
especially
when
it
comes
into
the
healthcare
world,
but
I
think
it's
something
we
need
to
do.
I
think
our
present
model,
although
it's
very,
very
good
and
working
in
collaboration
with
antiphon
County
I,
think
our
response
model
is
very
successful.
I
think
we
can
become
more
efficient
and
I
think
that
our
health
care
can
it
can
improve.
I
think
that
we
can
do
a
better
job
of
assisting
our
constituents
in
helping
them
truly
get
connected
to
the
healthcare
that
they
probably
need.
K
E
E
So
if
people
are
interested
in
going
into
more
detail
on
this,
so
when
a
flag
that
we're
continuing
this
conversation
on
it
and
it
councilmember,
Cunningham
and
I
are
collaborating
to
do
a
small
ordinance
change
sort
of
open
up
the
space
for
this
so
I
in
support
of
this
good
work.
There's
a
lot
of
moving
pieces
to
this.
There
are
state
funding
and
county
funding
implicate,
there's
the
practical
logistics
of
it.
E
J
I
just
want
to
echo
a
councilmember,
Fletcher
and
I'll
definitely
follow
up
on
a
little
bit
more
interest
in
this.
But
I
did
have
a
question
about.
Are
we
moving
into
an
area
that
the
county
is
currently
the
head
of
wanted
I'm,
worried
about
us
taking
on
responsibility
and
putting
resources
to
something
that
another
entity
should
is
in
that
space
and
should
be
responding
to
this.
K
Is
I
would
look
at
this
chair
and
Palmisano
committee
member
streeter
I?
Look
at
this
as
a
shared
collaborative
effort.
Now
we
have
worked
very
closely
with
Hennepin
County,
my
entire
career,
as
we
first
time
when
I
first
came
on
in
this
job,
we
were
just
first
responders
little
first-aid
patches
on
our
on
our
uniforms.
Now
this
is
evolved
in
a
small
dollar,
we're
all
EMTs.
This
is
the
next
step
in
that
progression,
I'll
be
involved.
You
know,
I
had
this
whole
medical
piece
starts.
K
We
evolved
I
think
that
it's
important
for
us
to
maintain
that
collaborative
effort
with
them.
There
will
be
hopefully
something
built
in
where
the
programmer
itself
will
be
sustainable.
In
other
words,
there
will
be
some
reimbursement
back
to
us
for
the
work
that
we
do
and
we
will
not
be
right
now
we're
doing
all
of
our
EMS
events.
Those
are
off
for
free
we're,
not
getting
anything
back
so
I
think
it's
a
real
strong
collaborative
effort.
K
I
think
it's
important
that
we
maintain
that
you
know
in
some
of
the
work
that
we've
done
with
Hennepin,
County
and
I
would
just
say,
for
example,
for
the
success
rate
or
survivability
of
witnessed
cardiac
arrests.
We
have
someone
the
highest
success
rates
in
the
country
with
that,
and
that
is
something
that
we're
very
proud
of
working
together
on
and
I
think
that's
something
that
I
know
that
there
are
other
cities
that
are
trying
to
meet
that
mark
and
it's
challenging.
So
there's
some
really
good
work.
A
Thank
you,
I,
don't
see
other
questions
in
queue,
so
I'll.
Stick
myself
in
here.
I
wanted
to
point
out
to
my
colleagues
that
the
fire
department,
as
well
as
the
police,
are
both
transitioning
to
the
new
system
of
results
Minneapolis.
So
they
also
were
exempt
from
this
year,
meaning
during
the
2017
results
in
2018,
Andrea,
Larson's
email
last
week
pointed
us
all
to
the
results
that
are
listed
in
that
2018
budget
book,
as
well
as
the
2017
results
report.
So
it
is
based
off
of
2016
data,
but
you
gave
us
some
good
information.
K
You
know
right
now,
I'll
just
give
you
I'll
just
give
you
maybe
an
example
of
a
typical
run.
9-1-1
call
is
received
a
911
dispatch
said
we
get
dispatched
in
right
now,
at
the
present
time.
On
a
typical
event,
we
get
a
Hennepin
County
ambulance
or
two
paramedics.
We
get
a
generally
a
pumper
or
an
engine
company
which
is
a
$500,000
vehicle
with
three
or
four
firefighters
on
it.
We
may
or
may
not
get
a
police
ask
a.
K
We
may
not
get
police
assistance
depending
on
the
type
you
know,
auto
back
some
type
of
thing
we'd
get
and
we
would
also
have
law
enforcement
on
scene,
so
you've
got
a
paramedic
rig
with
two
paramedics.
You've
got
a
fire
truck
with
expensive
fire
truck
with
three
firefighters
on
it,
possibly
police
officers
and
men.
These
events
may
be
a
sprained
ankle,
so
we
get
there.
We
go
sprained
ankle.
Now.
K
We've
got
resources
that
are
out
of
service,
basically
I've
only
gotten
18
stations
and
we're
over
40,000
events,
just
an
EMS
this
year
right
around
40,000,
EMS
events,
and
when
we
get
that
far
now.
What
happens
is
now
those
resources,
especially
our
fire
trucks,
for
example,
when
they
go
to
these
events
that
are
out
of
service,
and
so
we
have
so
many
of
these
EMS
events.
Now,
suddenly,
we've
got
people
responding
and
in
filling
in
for
those
or
substituting,
and
our
map
just
starts
to
go
like
this.
K
If
we
got
rigs
out
of
position
and
I
think
it's
really
important
for
us
to
look
at
this
because
I,
really
our
firefighters,
we're
always
gonna
be
firefighting.
Firefighting
is
always
gonna
come
first.
What
happens?
Is
we
start
getting
ourselves
really
thinned
out?
We
may
have
70
80
90
minutes
going
on
at
one
time,
and
a
lot
of
these
rigs
are
out
of
position
now.
Suddenly
we
get
a
fire
run,
and
now
we've
got
crews
coming
from
all
over.
Now
it's
going
to
impact
our
response
time.
So
I
think
it's
important
to
they're.
K
Still,
firefighters
are
still
gonna
have
to
go
on
ALS
or
advanced
life
support
events.
They
are,
if
the
fire
trucks
they
are,
and
so
our
Hennepin
County
paramedics
I,
think
those
lesser
runs
that
don't
require
that
kind
of
response.
Those
are
what
we
are
gonna
focus
on,
I
think
that's
where
we
can
save
in
our
efficiencies.
You
know
these
fire
rigs.
They
get
zero
miles.
K
A
gallon
I've
said
it
many
times
they
are
expensive
to
run
they're
extremely
expensive
to
fix
and
they're
extremely
expensive
to
buy
so
I
think
if
we
can
get
into
a
less
expensive
vehicle,
much
more
efficient
vehicle-
maybe
two
firefighters
in
that
vehicle,
depending
on
how
this
position
is
going
to
be
ultimately
defined,
and
we
treat
our
some
of
those
calls
that
come
in.
We
can
minimize
that
there
will
be
certainly
be
a
savings
in
that
alone
for
sure
that
we
can
really
be
able
to
identify
through
this
data
project.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
First
of
all,
let
me
say,
being
the
victim
of
a
fire,
whether
there's
loss
of
life,
animal
property,
valuables
is
the
worst
thing
you
could
ever
go
through.
I've
had
three
fires
in
my
ward
in
20
years,
which
is
not
a
lot,
but
the
effect
on
people
is
horrible
and
that's
why
we
believe
that
we
should
have
a
top-notch
fire
department,
but
the
truth
of
the
matter
is
the
suburbs.
Some
suburbs
in
Hennepin
County,
don't
even
have
a
fire
department.
So
I
guess.
K
H
H
I
would
wonder
out
loud
and
I'm
interested
if
someone
in
the
fire
department
could
respond
back
to
me
as
to
what
happens
and
all
of
the
other
small
towns
in
Hennepin
County
that
don't
have
fire
departments
but
get
emergency
response
through
paramedics
is
the
county
just
covering
the
cost
of
that
for
all
those
small
cities,
but
yet
were
covering
the
cost
of
Minneapolis
I'm,
just
wondering
how
that
equals
out.
In
the
end
we
don't
get
reimbursed
for
our
EMS
calls,
but
I
doubt
cities
are
reimbursing
Hennepin
County
in
the
small
cities
either
I
do.
K
Know
that
most
communities,
Elise
I,
know
of
all
the
fire
chiefs
I
know
of
in
the
county.
Most
of
the
communities
all
have
a
fire
department.
Now,
maybe
a
small
career
department
and
say
st.
Louis
Park
Richfield
edina.
Some
of
those
those
Golden
Valley
is
a
small
career
department
and
then
there
they're
supported
by
a
group
of
volunteer
members
of
that
department.
Also,
so
it's
a
different
kind
of
model
than
then
we
have
we
all.
Basically
in
we
respond
to
all
of
us,
respond
to
our
communities
for
free.
That
is
how
it
works.
K
I
mean
that
is
how
it
has
been
we
have
in
so
this
model
will
allow
us
to
define
a
model.
It's
gonna
we're
going
to
realize
some
savings
in
our
overall
cost
of
providing
that
service,
and
also
there
will
be,
for
example,
in
a
community
EMT
and
the
legislation.
That's
already
passed,
there's
already
a
built-in
reimbursement
structure,
that's
been
defined
and
built
into
that.
So
we
will
get
reimbursed
for
some
of
the
level
of
work
that
we're
going
to
do
in
this
program.
K
So
there
will
be
some
reimbursement
of
that
that'll
be
done
by
healthcare
providers
who
would
be
reimbursing
the
city
or
us
the
fire
department
for
that
work.
So
there
will
be
a
model
to
do
that.
It
is
you
know,
I
talked
to
those
outside
Chiefs
a
lot,
and
we
are
all
in
this
together,
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
can
come
up
with
a
program
that
is
going
to
be
effective
and
it's
going
to
be
sustainable
and
not
be
a
burden,
and
that's
what
I
think
we've
come
up
with
here.
K
I
really
think
that
we're
gonna
see
that's
what
we're
doing
a
study,
and
it
will
be
very,
very
focused
on
hours
of
operation
of
this
we're
gonna
be
very
focused
to
see
how
this
is
gonna
work,
all
that
data
out
of
it,
because
if
we
find
that
it
doesn't
work
well,
then
we
need
to
relook
at
it.
You
know
we
need
to
look
at
it
soundly,
but
I
do
think.
K
H
Chair,
mr.
chief,
this
has
been
an
ongoing
issue.
The
20
years
I've
been
here.
So
if
you
look
at
the
fire
department's
annual
report,
which
I
look
at
every
year
because
they
give
it
to
me
in
paper-
form
I,
guess
everyone
gets
it
in
paper
form.
You
just
see
the
numbers
increasing
each
year.
Ems
calls
the
number
of
fires
decreasing
yay
for
us.
That's
because
there's
good
fire
prevention
and
some
good
and
some
less
than
good
state
laws
about
fire
prevention,
but
the
long
and
short
of
it
is.
We
are
increasing.
Our
EMS
calls.
H
Firefighters
have
become
glorified,
EMS
responders
and
it's
an
extremely
expensive
business
for
us
to
be
in.
Perhaps
we
need
to
be
more
aggressive
and
how
we
solve
this
problem.
Others
before
us
have
you
and
I
I
mean
councilman.
Rostro
was
active
in
this.
There
have
been
lots
of
council
members
who
have
tried
to
solve
this
problem.
The
time
seems
right
right
now,
so
I
support
your
efforts.
I
would
urge
other
council
members
who
are
interested
in
this
issue
to
dig
in
because
this
is
a
place
of
real
potential
reform
that
would
be
positive
for
firefighters.
H
They
don't
love
going
to
em
s
calls
either
quite
frankly,
and
it
would
save
the
taxpayers
of
Minneapolis
the
money
that
could
go
towards
other,
more
prevention,
type
things
or
other
activities.
I
would
love
to
see
this
problem
resolved
without
blaming
anyone
else,
but
asking
the
healthcare
system
to
do
more
or
the
county
to
do
more
so
that
our
firefighters
are
not
EMS
responders
as
their
main
job
anymore.
K
Chair
pull
myself
I
may
add
one
more
thing:
I,
you
know,
I
was
going
to
save
some
of
this
for
the
the
Public
Safety
Committee
meeting,
but
I
think
I
need
to
talk
about
a
little
bit
right
now,
that's
our
EMS
Academy!
You
know
one
step
to
answer
a
little
bit,
maybe
to
the
question
that
that
member
Goodman
brought
up
was
you
know,
hopefully
in
in
my
whatever
we
want
to
see
happen
here.
Is
we've
had
to
CMS
Academy?
You
know,
we've
had
it
for
three
years.
You
know
we
start
out.
K
We've
got,
we've
got
21
of
those
graduates
on
our
department
and
looking
at
Imus
back
results
a
little
bit
rich
and
challenges
years
ago
that
we're
trying
to
deal
with
and
those
members
on
our
department.
Now
it's
about
they're,
about
80%
persons
of
color
now,
which
is
I
think,
is
out
saying:
we've
come
a
long
ways
with
that.
K
But
when
you
look
at
our
EMS
Academy,
it
would
be
my
hope
that
at
some
point
we
would
create
maybe
some
other
division
within
this
department
that
we'll
be
doing
in
really
connecting
a
dots
under
EMS,
Academy
graduates
and
start
coming
in
and
do
some
of
these.
These
visits
that
we've
already
an
or
gonna
probably
happen
or
take
on
some
of
this
work
it'd
be
different
than
having
our
firefighters.
K
That's
the
issues
that
we'll
have
to
certainly
work
through
with
our
union
through
labor
management,
I,
think
they're
willing
to
certainly
sit
on
and
talk
about
it,
but
it's
all
part
of
the
process
of
really
change
and
I
really
want
to
be
I
want.
Everybody
know
that
I
am
I,
am
committed
to
this
I'm.
Passing
to
this
I
think
we
can
have
some
real
savings.
K
F
You,
madam
chair
I,
just
want
to
first
take
a
moment
to
say
how
much
I
appreciate
you
chief
I,
feel
like
you,
have
produced
really
great
programs
and
systems
really
thinking
comprehensively
about
connecting
the
dots
and
a
lot
very
strategically
and
a
way
that
we
don't
always
see.
Leaders
and
so
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
that,
because
you're
very
detail-oriented
about
how
do
we
all
fit
this
together?
How
do
we
get
more
folks
of
color
into
the
department?
How
do
we
get
more
community
folks
into
the
department?
F
And
there
was
some
conversation
about
reimbursement?
I
was
curious
if
you
could
talk
actually
a
little
bit
more
about
the
revenue
streams
into
the
program,
because
that
was
something
that
we
had
previously
talked
about
around
like
insurance
reimbursements,
as
well
as
as
other
potential
revenue
streams,
so
that
it
could
eventually
potentially
become
budget
neutral
and
so
I'm
curious
as
to
what
those
revenue
streams
might
look
like
in
what
we
could
probably
expect.
F
K
Palmisano
chimeric
Cunningham
how
this
is
the
at
least
right
now
the
discussions
that
we're
having
at
these
at
the
community
AMT
piece
of
that
there
is
it's
it's
kind
of
multifaceted
community
AMT.
There
is
a
structured
reimbursement
rate
that
is
based
on
quarter
hour
without
really
getting
into
the
weeds
on
this.
K
Generally,
that's
going
to
be
decided
upon
by
their
treating
physician,
and
then
there
we
will
be
charged
with
visiting
them
unnecessary
firefighter,
but
certainly
some
gonna
be
visiting
them
and
we'll
get
paid
reimbursed
for
that
visit
time,
and
this
is
where
I
think
in
terms
if
system-wide
savings
comes
into
play.
These
visits
are
helping
really
to
continue
to
connect
those
dots,
so
we
can
clearly
identify
any
additional
needs
or
assistance
they
need
and
try
to
keep
them
from.
K
Taking
that
9-1-1
call
to
try
to
minimize
them
from
using
the
system,
once
again,
we
have
an
expensive
ambulance
right
back
the
ER
and
try
to
break
that
chain
of
of
events
that
just
a
continuum.
So
that
is
one
piece
on
this
other
piece
in
this
data
study
we
want
to
do
is
is
maybe
some
basic
life
support
responses
where
we
don't
necessary
have
to
spend
that
expensive,
firetruck
Ambus
to
paramedics.
K
We
can
send
a
lesser
vehicle
to
respond
on
those
runs
and
they
will
be
talking
about
revenue
share
back
to
us
from
the
the
county
and
those
kinds
of
thing.
As
we
go
forward
this,
so
there
will
be
a
reimbursement
piece
where
I
know
we're
gonna
save
money
is
our
apparatus.
You
know
we
have.
You
know
a
transmission.
Our
apparatus
cost
sixteen
thousand
dollars
just
to
put
a
transmission
to
the
fire
truck
yeah,
oh
maybe
more.
So
we
can.
K
We
look
at
the
fuel
savings
and
fuel
and
and
and
maintenance
and
labor
costs
of
three
or
four
firefighters
going
on
on
a
sprained
ankle.
We
could
send
somebody
else
on
a
lesser
vehicle
that
is
gonna
have
some
savings.
So
it's
all
that
data,
but
I
think
we
need
it's
important
for
us
to
pull
out.
So
I
can
come
up
here
and
say
here
is
the
savings?
It's
one
thing
to
talk
about.
It
I
need
to
demonstrate
it
and
that's
what
I'm
committed
to
do
great.
F
Thank
you,
I
also,
I'm
curious.
Has
there
been
in
conversation
with
the
health
department,
because
they've
started
some
epidemiological
surveillance
at
the
population
level,
and
so
I
was
curious.
If
there's
been
any
sort
of
conversations
between
the
two
departments
about
being
able
to
share
data
or
anything
potential
partnership
there
as.
K
K
So
it's
very
broad
I
tell
you
what
every
every
every
a
lot
of
fire
departments
this
country
looking
at
this
one?
What
are
we
gonna
do
because
we're
not
the
only
ones
facing
the
same.
You
were
running
EMS
and
and
no
reimbursement
back
in.
So
it's
something
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
and
I
think
it's
gonna
be
effective.
Well,.
A
Thank
you,
I,
don't
see
any
other
comments
or
questions
in
queue,
but
before
you
go
on
to
your
next
slide,
I
just
wanted
in
this
vein
to
ask
you
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
overtime
costs.
I
know,
you've
been
working
hard
to
curb
them
and
I.
Think
it's
important
to
kind
of
put
that
story
in
here.
As
we
have
this
bigger
discussion,
could
you
share
a
little
bit
about
some
of
your
work
to
curb
overtime
costs
in
your
department.
K
We
have
been
chair,
Palmisano
overtime.
Has
it
certainly
been
very
challenging
this
year?
For
us
we
have
to
date,
I
think
we
have
retired
I,
believe
we've
had
24
retired
to
date.
As
of
this
morning,
I
believe
the
number
is
24.
We
expect
to
lose
30
firefighters
for
the
end,
the
up
total
of
30
right
now,
I
have
17
firefighters
that
are
off
in
different
forms
of
paper
on
a
leave
long-term
injury,
and/or
illness.
So
when
you
start
doing
the
math,
you
add
up
that
24
plus
a
17.
K
Now
we're
looking
at
41
positions
that
I
don't
have
to
be
able
to
use
so
this
year
and
also
I'll
have
to
say
that
we
are
probably
going
to
have
to
cover
over
300
shifts
of
military
leave
this
year.
The
backfield
cost
of
that
is
all
overtime.
So,
when
you
look
at
the
challenges
that
we
have,
it
is
really
really
challenging
for
us.
I
would
hope
that
it's
always
been
my
goal
to
try
to
eliminate
or
absolutely
minimize
overtime
in
this
department.
I
think.
K
If
we
we
have,
we
were
in
really
good
shape
and
all
of
a
sudden,
the
hardest
options
that
we've
had
to
make
it
in
terms
of
overtime
is
our
attrition
rate.
You
never
really
know
what
happens,
and,
and
so
in
the
past,
like
I've,
said
the
past
priorities,
big
classes,
that
attrition
ball
becomes
down
a
pipeline
and
all
of
a
sudden
I
got
this
huge
class
leaving
and
now
suddenly
we
can't
we
can't
react,
quick
enough
and
and
aren't
able
to
hire
enough
to
because
it
takes
long
to
train
them.
K
K
I
think
that
I
would
hope
that
if
we
really
start
to
realize
what
potentially
some
of
these
studies
in
this
work
and
do
an
EMS
side
of
things
can
really
help
us
offset
some
of
those
costs
and
we
have
it
over
time.
I
think
everything
that
we've
we
generated
some
some
revenue
back
to
the
city
trying
to
assist
with
some
of
that,
but
it
is
extremely
challenging
and
overtime
is
all
about
bodies.
It
is
all
about
personnel
we're
going
to
continue
to
hire.
K
We
have
a
lot
of
young
good
young
veterans
on
this
department.
I,
certainly
thank
them
for
all
their
service.
A
lot
of
them
are
still
active
members
and
reserves,
and
they
have
a
lot
of
training
of
go
to
and
that
that
that
is
driven
direct
I'm
budget
and
because
we
have
to
back
fill
form
so
they're,
just
a
lot
of
channels.
I'm
going
to
continue
to
work
on
and
try
to
be
creative,
as
I
can
be
to
try
to
minimize
some
of
that
of
a
can.
The
impact
of
them.
Thank.
A
K
Would
love
to
I
think
that's!
You
know
appears
ago
working
with
with
patch
council
members,
we
were
had
the
rule
of
three
that
has
been
eliminated,
which
really
freed
us
up
in
to
be
we'll,
be
have
a
much
more
flexible
in
in
the
type
of
class
we've
hired.
We
we
eliminated
the
written
exam
that
I
don't
have
a
written
exam
any
more
to
come
on
our
department
I.
Don't
think
that
there's
a
written
exam
that
can
clearly
identify
who's
gonna
make
a
real
good
firefighter
I.
Just
don't
I,
don't
think
that
questions
been
written.
K
So
at
this
time
we
we
basically
took
their
their
application,
looked
at
their
life
experiences
and
what
they've
done
their
life
and
greater
gave
them
credit
for
that,
and
our
the
diversity
of
our
hiring
list
right
now
is
just
a
little
under
50%
persons
of
color,
of
course,
with
the
advent
of
our
EMS
Academy
that
has
just
been.
We've
really
worked
hard
to
address
some
of
the
equity
issues
that
we
have
in
our
department,
we're
very
proud
of
what
we've
done.
I'm
very
proud
of
the
work
my
staff
has
done
in
regard
to
that.
K
It
has
been
a
lot
of
work
in
collaboration
of
partnership
with
HR
and
others,
so
it's
been
something
that
we're
very
proud
of,
and
hopefully
we
can
in
equity
and
especially
when
it
comes
to
employment.
It's
easy
to
talk
about
and
it's
you
could
set
some
lofty
goals.
It's
it's
challenging
to
sustain
and
you
can't
do
it
alone.
So
we
appreciate
all
the
help
we've
had.
K
And
the
last
the
last
piece
we
had
with
pretty
you
only
had
really
two
this
year
and
that's
our
personal
protective
equipment.
Obviously,
the
standards
have
changed
in
our
personal
protective
gear
that
our
firefighters
wear.
That
ensemble
includes
you
know:
coats
pants,
hood
boots,
other
items
that
that
that
protect
them
right
now
that
there
is
a
10-year
standard,
that's
out
there
that,
after
10
years,
it
can
no
longer
be
worn
in
structural
firefighting.
K
So
when
you
have
400
firefighters
and
we
have
a
fair
amount
of
fires,
that
this
is
a
physically
demanding
job
and
it
certainly
demands
a
lot
of
our
of
our
equipment,
so
this
would
be
an
ongoing
funding
for
to
put
us
on
a
program
that
would
allow
us
to
buy
these
sets.
Are
there
says
in
the
in
the
presentation
about
two
thousand
dollars
a
piece?
They
are
expensive,
and
so
it's
a
way
that
we
can.
K
We
can
get
into
a
solid
replacement
plan
and
budget
for
it
versus
having
to
try
to
be
reactionary,
which
is
very,
very
challenging.
I
will
say
that
we
had
a
hazardous
materials
or
fire
involving
hazardous
materials
on
a
warehouse
and
up
in
Northeast
Minneapolis
a
few
years
ago.
It
involved
hazardous
materials.
We
found
a
state
statute
that
allowed
us
to
build
back
to
that
that
that
company,
so
we
were
able
to
build
back
and
they
reimbursed
us
so
the
cost
of
the
the
turnout
gear
that
was
lost
during
that
fire.
K
So
it's
those
kinds
of
things
that
we
have
to
do
to
try
to
minimize
the
impact
of
cost.
It
is
it's
a
in
it's
expensive
business
to
be
in
with
fire
trucks
and
turnout
gear.
It's
one
of
the
most
important
things
that
our
folks
wear
and
I'm
committed
to,
hopefully
having
our
folks
have
a
quality
set
of
turnout
gear.
K
This
is
pretty
easy.
I
only
had
two
things
as
artists
at
this.
That's
that's
kind
of
little,
but
I
have
a
lot.
I
look
forward
to
sharing
Palmisano
too.
They
are
meeting
when
the
Public
Safety,
Committee,
meeting
or
I
can
really
get
into
talking
about
community
MT
and
what
we're
working
to
do
the
momentum,
good
health
care
and
expand
on
that
a
little
bit
and
answer
more
questionable,
where
I
think
this
is
gonna.
K
A
Know
that
councilmember
Connell
is
interested
in
inviting
anybody
who
might
be
interested
in
that
topic
to
that
deeper
dive
in
that
okay,
then,
if
there's
anyone
that
wants
to
flag
something
to
to
take
offline
and
work
on
together,
right,
I
welcome
you
telling
me
offline
or
chiming
in
now
absent
that
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
juries
even
file
both
of
the
presentations
this
morning,
both
from
cheap
arredondo
and
chief
Friedel
for
the
2019
budget,
presentation
I
will
just
go
ahead
and
make
that
motion
all
in
favor.
Please
say
aye
aye
opposed
that
carries
now.