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From YouTube: July 20, 2018 Minneapolis City Council
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Minneapolis City Council Meeting
A
Good
morning,
everyone,
my
name,
is
Lisa
bender
I'm,
the
president
of
the
Minneapolis
City
Council,
welcome
to
our
meeting
today.
Before
we
begin
our
official
business,
we
often
have
special
resolutions
and
today's
is
timely
and
important.
I'm
going
to
turn
the
microphone
to
my
colleague,
councilmember
Warsaw
me
to
read
the
resolution,
which
is
one
for
the
Minneapolis
City
Council,
to
stand
with
the
people
of
Ethiopia
right
now
and
I.
Will
let
him
explain
and
read
the
resolution.
B
Thank
you,
madam
president,
and
we
also
have
school
board
director,
see
a
tally
here
as
well
today,
and
this
resolution
basically
came
about
because
of
events
that
are
taking
place
in
the
country
of
Ethiopia
and
the
resolution
goes
and
it's
been
signed
by
all
my
colleagues.
So
thank
you
very
much
to
everyone
and
the
title
of
the
resolution
is
expressing
concern
and
condemnation
over
the
humanitarian
crisis
and
communal
violence
in
Ethiopia.
B
Whereas
the
Somali
and
aroma
ethnic
groups
have
struggled
for
over
a
century
for
the
self-determination
and
have
been
historically
marginalized
since
the
inception
of
modern
Ethiopia
and
whereas,
since
2015,
there
has
been
mass
demonstrations
led
by
the
Oromo
and
other
communities
to
bring
about
civil
rights,
justice
and
a
more
equitable
estoppel
and
whereas
dr.
Abby,
Ahmed
Ali
was
recently
appointed
Prime
Minister
of
Ethiopia
and
has
articulated
a
reform
agenda,
centered
around
love
and
unity
to
combat
hatred
and
division.
B
And
whereas
recently
Ethiopia
has
seen
an
increase
in
communal
violence,
which
has
resulted
in
the
loss
of
hundreds
of
lives
and
the
displacement
of
thousands
of
ethnic
Somalis
and
or
almost
from
their
homes.
And
whereas
this
continued
humanitarian
crisis
has
affected
communities,
notably
in
to
legal
aid,
verbally
Maury,
Ali,
Waldo
and
many
other
towns,
and
whereas
the
Human
Rights
Watch
in
July
2018,
published
a
detailed
report
about
the
horrific
situation.
B
Many
Somali
prisoners
encounter
at
the
notorious
prison
known
as
a
jail
or
garden
and
discussed
the
lack
of
accountability
by
the
Ethiopian
government
and
whereas
the
city
of
Minneapolis
is
home
to
the
largest
concentration
of
Somali
and
all
Roma
communities
in
the
united
states,
living
side-by-side
in
peace
and
harmony,
and
whereas
residents
of
many
police
are
alarmed
at
the
ever
increase
in
death
and
displacement,
continued
incarceration
of
political
prisoners
and
the
mob
justice.
Many
innocent
civilians
are
facing
in
Ethiopian.
B
Cities
now,
therefore
be
resolved
that
a
mayor
and
city
council
do
hereby
urge
the
government
of
Ethiopia
to
respect
the
Somalian
or
Roma
people's
rights
to
their
land,
their
self-determination
and
to
safeguard
their
human
rights
and
dignity.
We
call
on
Prime,
Minister
dr.
Irby
Ahmed
Ali
to
take
concrete
action
to
immediately
halt
violence
and
return
all
displaced
civilians
to
their
homes.
B
C
Thank
you
very
much
concerned
member
olsommer
and
other
members.
Thank
you
very
much.
Madam
president.
The
Oromo
and
the
Somali
community
are
brothers
and
sisters
and
they
share
everything
in
life.
Therefore,
it's
very
important
that
we
have
to
condemn
the
violence
that's
going
on
in
Ethiopia,
and
this
is
a
great
opportunity
that
the
Prime
Minister
is
top
is
visiting
us.
It's
really
a
noble
idea
that
we
share
our
united
voice
as
a
city
of
Minneapolis
that
we
care
about
human
rights
in
East
Africa.
C
A
Thank
you
so
much
and
I
just
also
want
to
thank
my
colleague,
councilmember
Sami,
for
his
leadership
in
fighting
for
Minneapolis
on
the
United
States
of
America,
to
continue
to
be
a
refuge
from
people
who
are
fleeing
this
kind
of
humanitarian
crisis
and
violence.
And
it's
a
shame
that
we
have
to
do
so.
But
we
are
standing
with
you
and
the
community
in
that
fight
as
well.
D
A
A
Thank
You
mr.
cook,
I'd
like
to
note
for
the
record
that
our
vice
president,
councilmember
Jenkins,
is
absent
from
the
meeting
today,
because
she
is
participating
in
the
senior
executive
in
state
and
local
leadership
program
at
Harvard's,
Kennedy,
School
of
Government
or,
as
I
like
to
say
she
as
at
Harvard,
getting
all
fancy
and
we
very
excited
to
hear
what
she
has
learned
when
she
gets
back
with
that.
We'll
proceed
to
the
meeting
agenda
will:
are
there
any
amendments
to
today's
agenda?
F
A
Those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed
that
carries
and
the
agenda
is
adopted.
Next
we
have
the
minutes
of
the
regular
meeting
for
June
29th
for
acceptance.
Is
there
a
motion
to
accept
the
minutes
so
move
that
all
those
in
favor
of
say,
aye
aye,
any
opposed
that
carries
and
the
minutes
are
accepted?
And
finally,
we
have
the
referral
of
petitions,
communications
and
reports.
The
proper
committees.
A
So
we
do
have
the
one
resolution
today
on
the
agenda,
which
expresses
our
support
for
civil
rights
for
the
people
of
Ethiopia,
condemning
the
humanik
humanitarian
crisis
and
communal
violence
happening
in
that
country.
Councilmember
osami
has
read
the
resolution.
Is
there
any
comment
on
that?
I?
Don't
have
my
speaker
management,
okay,
so
I'm
gonna
relay
schraeder
councilmember
burst
on
me.
Oh.
B
Madam
president,
thank
you
very
much.
I
I
wish
to
make
a
motion
and
the
motion
is
to
amend
the
resolution
by
adding
the
following
resolved
clause.
We
further
resolved
that
a
city
county
city
clerk,
the
city
clerk
be
directed
to
send
a
copy
of
this
resolution
to
the
Ethiopian
embassy
in
Washington
DC,
the
state
department's
Africa
desk
and
the
Minnesota
federal
delegation.
A
G
You,
madam
president,
the
committee
of
the
whole
brings
forward
two
items
to
this
to
this
meeting.
The
first
is
a
local
government
amicus
brief
in
Washington
state
versus
United
States
authorizing
the
city
to
join
the
local
government.
Amicus
brief
in
the
support
of
the
plaintiffs
in
the
case
of
Washington
State
versus
United
States
and
authorizing
the
city
attorney's
office,
to
take
all
necessary
steps
to
join
in
support
of
the
samhitas
brief
that
is
in
regards
to
family
separation.
G
The
second
is
its
2020
census,
directing
the
neighborhood
and
community
relations
staff
to
provide
progress
reports
on
2020
census
activities
and
passage
of
a
resolution
establishing
the
complete
count
to
serve
as
an
advisory
board
to
the
City
Council
on
the
issues
of
the
2020
census.
I
move
approval
of
these
items,
councilman.
A
H
A
A
H
You,
madam
president,
the
economic
development
and
regulatory
Services
Committee
is
bringing
11
for
items
forward
for
approval
this
morning.
Item
number
one
is
an
expansion
of
premise
for
Prioress
brewing
item.
2
is
an
extended
hours
license
for
Starbucks
coffee
item.
3
is
the
innovative
and
emerging
small
business
pilot
program?
Item
number
4
is
a
rental
license
denial
for
a
number
of
properties.
I
will
I'm
going
to
actually
move
to
delete
that
from
the
agenda,
because
the
matter
was
recommended
for
dismissal
by
an
administrative
law.
H
A
E
E
E
I
A
E
E
A
J
A
A
D
E
D
A
K
Policy
and
Development
Committee
is
just
bringing
one
thing
forward.
This
is
approval
of
our
committee
work
plan.
I,
encourage
my
colleagues
and
others
to
go.
Look
at
that
and
they
can
see
what
we
have
planned
and
the
timing
for
maybe
some
of
the
issues
that
they
brought
forward
to
work
on
this
year.
I'll
also
note
that
at
the
committee
we
had
an
interesting
report
from
the
University
of
Minnesota
center
for
urban
and
regional
affairs
on
gentrification
in
Minneapolis.
A
E
E
A
G
You,
madam
president,
the
public
health
environment,
civil
rights
and
engagement
committee
brings
forward
four
items.
The
first
is
neighborhood
a
community
engagement,
Commission
appointments
of
Jeff
Stran
Queen
Kimmons
and
Mary
Dido
Swinton.
The
second
is
accepting
a
grant
from
the
Minneapolis
downtown
Improvement
District
for
forty
thousand
dollars
for
street
outreach.
The
third
is
approving
the
council
appointment
of
laurie
Campagnolo
to
the
public
health
advisory
committee.
Excuse
me,
yeah
committee
appointment
and
the
last
is
approving
the
council
appointment
of
went
on
American
and
the
mayoral
appointment
of
Kate
Davenport
to
the
Minneapolis
workplace.
A
D
A
L
You,
madam
president,
we
are
committing
forwards.
13
items
today
for
consideration
item.
One
is
the
snow
and
ice
removal
from
public
sidewalks
I'll
note
an
amendment
to
that.
That's
been
distributed,
removed
from
the
proposed
assessment,
the
ice
removal
against
property
of
3200
Taylor
for
the
amount
listed,
and
this
was
due
to
a
we
discovered,
a
communication
snafu
that
caused
this
situation.
L
Item
2
is
a
28th
Avenue
South
Street
reconstruction,
58th
Street
East
to
the
city
limit
item.
3
is
the
low
power
vehicle
ordinance
item.
4?
Is
the
contract
tool
design
group
for
vision,
zero
action
plan
item
five?
Is
the
contract
amendment
with
Jurgen
construction
company
for
the
Nicollet
Mall
art
restoration
item?
Six?
Is
the
temporary
occupancy
permit
agreement
with
Burlington
Northern
Santa
Fe
for
the
water
main
repair
that
we're
doing
item
seven?
Is
the
grant
from
Hennepin
County
for
the
public
recycling
containers
item.
Eight?
L
Is
the
metro,
Blue
Line
extension,
light
rail
project
master
funding
agreement
with
the
project
team
item?
Nine?
Is
the
acquisition
land
from
Hennepin
County
for
stormwater
holding
on
item
10?
Is
the
Hennepin
Avenue
South
Street
reconstruction
project?
That
project
goes
from
Lake
streets
of
West
36th
Street
item
11
as
a
tenth
Avenue
South
East,
River
Bridge
project.
That's
a
layout
approval
and
Eastman's
item
12
is
the
bid
for
installation
of
large-diameter
security
in
pipe
the
amount
listed.
L
A
M
Thank
you,
madam
president.
I
wanted
to
talk
about
item
three
briefly.
The
low-power
vehicle
ordinance
and
first
want
to
commend
council
member
Reich
for
his
leadership
on
this
I
think
it's
very
important
that
we
actually
have
an
ordinance
and
that
we
can
actually
get
this
regulated
in
a
way
that
allows
us
to
make
sure
that
this
is
both
a
service
that
we
can
explore
and
something
that
we
are
able
to
regulate,
to
make
sure
it
doesn't
become
a
nuisance
in
our
city
and
I.
M
Think
it's
it's
a
really
good
thing
that
we'd
already
had
something
in
progress
when
the
first
committee
came
in.
So
thank
you
for
that.
There
are
some
things
that
this
ordinance
doesn't
do
and
I
want
to
just
sort
of
talk
about.
Why
I'm,
supportive
of
passing
it
anyway,
which
is
that
you
know
we
needed
to
get
something
in
place
to
have
a
regulatory
framework,
and
then
we
are
going
to
continue
to
improve
this.
M
The
biggest
thing
that
I'm
concerned
about
that
this
doesn't
do
yet
and
I
want
to
see
if
we
can
do
it
through
the
contract
and
then
we'll
look
at
ordinance.
If
we
can't
do
it
through,
our
agreements
with
the
providers
is
the
level
of
access
that
it
provides.
So
right
now,
there's
a
very
high
bar
for
access
that
excludes
a
lot
of
people
in
our
community.
M
M
H
H
Everyone
who
wants
to
take
transit
people
who
want
a
bike
and
those
who
want
to
patronize
all
of
the
businesses
along
the
Avenue
I
am
really
impressed
with
the
work
of
the
public
works
department.
Every
single
property
owner
was
met
with
multiple
times.
There's
been
a
lot
of
community
engagement
surrounding
the
project.
H
L
Thank
you,
madam
president,
and
just
responding
to
the
great
comments
from
my
colleagues.
We
do
have
great
framework
for
both
the
Hennepin
Avenue
and
we
have
a
great
framework
for
our
policies
regarding
this
new
mode
in
our
city,
but
there
is
more
work
to
be
done.
Hennepin
Avenue,
though
it
was
a
very
challenging
layout,
given
all
the
uses
that
councilmember
Goodman
outlined
still,
it
needs
to
be
activated
and
there's
a
lot
of
work
about
how
it
gets
activated.
L
Nicollet,
of
course,
is
a
very
kind
of
a
jewel
in
our
city,
but
Hennepin
Avenue
is
that
Main
Street.
You
know
it's
really
where
it's
happening
and
how
we
do
that
and
how
we
activate.
That
is
something
we
want
to
do
intentionally
and
to
councilmember
Fletcher
I.
Think
you
really
laid
it
out
perfectly.
A
regulatory
framework
can't
just
be
for
how
we
regulate.
It
also
has
to
be
baked
in
on
agreements
how
we
aspire
to
promote
the
values
of
our
city,
and
so
you
just
nailed
the
head
access
as
one
of
our
top
values.
L
So
more
work
to
be
done
and
I
also
would
say
that
the
vendors
that
have
worked
with
us
patiently,
that's
how
you
establish
a
long
term
relationship
with
an
enterprise,
and
we
appreciate
that
and
we'll
always
remember
that
so
with
that
Madam
President.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speciate
on
the
points.
Well,
maybe
my
calling
councilmember.
I
Just
wanted
to
highlight
number
eight,
which
is
the
blue
line,
extension
the
master
funding
agreement
on
the
Bottineau
corridor
and
just
stress
that
transportation
in
North
Minneapolis
is
what's
going
to
tie
folks
to
to
work.
It's
gonna
allow
folks
to
be
more
mobile
and
just
wanted
to
highlight
my
excitement
about
transportation
options
coming
to
North
Minneapolis.
Thank
you.
C
A
I
don't
see
any
I
will
note,
echoing
what
chair,
Reich
and
Casimir
Fletcher
said
the
next
step
for
the
low
powered
vehicle
ordinance
will
be
at
tbw
just
next
week
on
Tuesday,
and
that
will
be
the
license
agreement.
That
staff
is
working
out
with
the
companies
that
have
been
engaging
so
far,
so
if
people
will
be
able
to
review
that
soon
online
and
will
be
able
to
come,
learn
more
at
that
point
meeting
next
week.
All
right!
Thank
you.
So
then,
when
that
comes
over,
Reich
has
moved
CB
w
agenda
with
the
amendment
clerk.
A
E
H
A
B
Thank
you,
madam
president.
The
Ways
and
Means
Committee
brings
forth
seven
items
or
council
approval.
The
first
item
is
illegal.
Sediment
claims
of
Thomas
J
Mack.
The
second
is
a
legal
set
of
a
claim
of
Andre
C.
Well.
The
third
is
at
least
leases
for
early
voting
centers
for
the
2018
elections.
The
fourth
item
is
a
contract
amendment
with
messenger
Construction
Company
Inc
for
contract
closeout
regarding
the
Convention
Center
drinking
far
fountains
replacement
project.
The
fifth
item
is
a
gift
acceptance
for
the
city
staff
travel
expenses
to
Ann
Arbor
Michigan
in
September
2018.
B
A
E
D
A
N
You,
madam
president,
zoning
and
planning
will
be
bringing
forward
of
five
items
for
google
today.
The
first
is
a
vacation
resolution
correction
at
2900,
Pleasant
Avenue.
The
second
is
a
rezoning
at
1901,
grand
and
Street
and
Northeast.
The
third
is
also
rezoning
at
25,
ten
Riverside
Avenue
2506,
Riverside
Avenue
and
25
14,
8th
Street,
south.
The
fourth
is
a
rezoning
for
14
4636
Avenue
south
and
the
fifth
is
a
rezoning
for
800,
first
Street
North,
730
and
730,
and
a
half
first
Street
north
I'll
stand
for
questions
and
move
on
Thank.
A
E
A
A
A
So
under
the
statute,
the
council
needs
to
submit
the
proposal
in
form
of
an
ordinance
to
the
Charter
Commission
for
its
consideration
before
it
can
be
put
on
the
ballot.
So
this
action
today
is
to
formally
introduce
the
ordinance
and
to
give
it
a
first
reading
is
required
under
the
city
charter
and
our
rules
and
if
passed,
the
ordinance
would
then
be
referred
to
an
intergovernmental
relations
committee,
the
next
cycle.
So
there
any
questions
from
Council
members
on
those
notices,
councillor
Palmisano.
J
My
concern
is
that
as
an
elected
official
who's
supposed
to
be
representing
residents,
I'm
not
able
to
represent
them
without
fully
understanding
what
it
is
we
are
voting
on,
I
feel
we're
talking
about
a
fundamental
change
to
our
form
of
government
I'm,
not
a
fright
afraid
of
shying
away
or
upsetting
the
applecart
when
that's
warranted,
but
I
don't
understand
the
full
force
of
this
one,
for
example
a
filing
fee
charter
amendment.
We
spoke
about
four
before
us
for
two
years
before
we
actually
submitted
it.
J
This
way
I've
heard
my
colleagues
argue
that
we're
voting
today
to
just
allow
for
the
conversation
and
I
might
be
persuaded
in
that
fact.
If
I
didn't
also
know,
this
was
being
rushed
through
to
meet
a
deadline
that
is
only
a
month
away
in
this
type
of
emotion.
You
are
signaling
that
you
like
this
proposal
enough
to
derail
a
lot
of
time
and
energy
and
resources
to
it
immediately
for
the
next
month.
If
this
had
been
at
all
vetted,
then
today
might
be
normal.
J
A
normal
introduction
to
this
kind
of
a
major
change
and
I
could
vote
to
have
that
conversation,
but
I
feel
this
is
bad
process.
I
think
it's
unacceptable
that
I'm
supposed
to
make
an
informed
decision
and
vote
even
on
a
referral
at
this
stage
when
I
have
no
idea
how
this
could
practically
be
implemented,
so
just
to
be
clear
in
so
many
conversations
around
the
city
on
public
safety
and
curbing
violence
in
our
communities
and
in
healing
the
divide
between
communities
that
have
been
disenfranchised
by
police
over
generations
of
time.
J
I've
never
heard
this
brought
up
as
a
solution.
One
of
my
colleagues
mentioned
yesterday
that
this
came
up
last
year
during
his
door.
Knocking
in
were
12
I
feel
he
could
have
brought
it
up
in
January
and
we
could
have
had
this
conversation
for
at
least
the
last
six
months.
You
know
people
are
still
worried
about
not
having
enough
time
to
comment
on
a
first
draft
of
a
2040
comprehensive
plan
and
we've
been
that's
been
going
on
a
lot
longer
than
this
I
feel
council.
J
J
If
the
author
or
authors
would
be
willing
to
field
some
questions,
some
that
are
on
my
mind,
are:
would
council
members
be
able
to
craft
and
implement
policy
for
their
ward
or
will
council
as
a
whole
vote
on
policy
for
each
of
our
separate
wards?
That's
unclear
here.
Another
example
would
be
in
the
case
of
an
urgent
policing
issue
affecting
Minneapolis.
Does
the
chief
need
to
call
14,
council
members,
Gaines
consensus
and
then
act?
J
Instead,
our
concern,
my
concern,
is
not
over
changing
Authority
during
an
unprecedented
catastrophe
or
disaster,
but
rather
the
high-stakes
decisions
made
by
the
chief
and
the
mayor
regularly.
Where
consequences
are
high,
lives
might
be
at
risk,
but
there's
immediately
public
consequences.
Present.
J
Maybe
we
get
a
call
from
one
of
my
constituents
who
doesn't
have
my
phone
number
little
on
all
of
our
phone
numbers
I
see
the
ability
for
a
mayor
to
effect
change
about
that
pretty
immediately
and
the
technique
you
know,
I
think
he
handles
a
situation
like
that
other
examples
of
what
kinds
of
ways
we
need
to
make
decisions
on
that
quickly
would
be
during
a
protest.
God
forbid
during
a
riot.
So
first
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
postpone
this
indefinitely.
J
A
D
Procedurally,
emotions
been
made
to
postpone
indefinitely
a
motion
requires
a
second
to
be
entertained.
Okay,
you
have
a
second,
so
the
motion
is
before
the
body
will
open
up
the
second
Q&A
key
core
management,
those
who
wish
to
speak
to
the
motion
on
postponing
and
definitely
would
register
under
that
queue
once
that
queue
was
done
and
that
motion
is
disposed
of,
we
would
return
to
the
original
queue
in
order
that
the
speakers
have
already
registered
Thank.
A
N
I'd
like
to
speak
to
the
motion,
I
think
that's
a
it's
not
appropriate
to
talk
about
football
following
this.
The
reason
this
has
not
been
timely
is
because
we
haven't
acted
and
I,
don't
know
how
else
to
put
this
there.
This
has
been
going
on
and
we're
talking
about
actual
reform
that
is
needed.
Maybe
this
doesn't
get
this
there,
but
this
is
the
only
proposal
I've
seen
in
my
time
here
and
to
say
that
this
has,
we
may
not
have
heard
about
it.
We
need
to
do
it
looking
more
into
it.
N
O
O
Each
one
of
us
has
been
elected
to
represent
not
only
the
voters
that
voted
us
here,
but
the
variety
of
people
that
live
in
our
districts
and
in
their
wards
I
am
heavily
concerned
about
the
type
of
impact
that
an
irresponsible
motion
that
was
brought
forward
without
consulting
the
very
head
of
the
department
that
we're
discussing
without
consulting
the
chair
of
the
committee.
That
runs
the
line
of
work
that
councilmember
Jeremy
Schrader
is
critiquing
right
now,
I'm
very
concerned
about
how
this
entire
conversation
has
lacked.
O
What
do
you
think
about
that?
Yeah?
Let's
just
talk
about
it
right
here
right
now
the
media
would
eat
me
alive.
Council
members
would
eat
me
alive.
Staff
would
eat
me
alive.
I
wouldn't
be
about
be
able
to
walk
out
of
this
room
and
I
know
because
I
here
for
four
years
and
I
know
because
I've
had
to
have
those
battles
and
I
am
just
so
concerned
with
the
fact
that
currently,
we
have
a
variety
of
tools
at
our
disposal
to
make
changes,
and
none
of
those
ideas
have
come
to
me.
O
O
O
So
I
will
be
supporting
the
motion
to
continued
conversations
to
get
folks
on
the
same
page
to
get
through
the
challenges
and
the
tensions
that
we're.
Having
now
about
this
very
important
issue,
never
in
my
life
would
I
ever
bring
forward
a
motion
like
this
in
such
an
irresponsible
way.
That
would
impact
our
community
members
in
so
many
different
ways
without
checking
in
with
the
key
folks
who
are
leading
the
charge
on
this
effort.
A
A
You
you
know,
I
just
wanted
to
comment
briefly
on
this
motion
to
postpone
the
item
indefinitely,
which
I
I
strongly
disagree
with
I've,
never
voted
against
a
subject
matter.
Introduction
proposal
by
a
colleague
and
I
know
that
our
process
can
feel
difficult
to
follow
for
an
average
person.
But
this
really
truly
is
the
beginning
of
a
policy
discussion
for
an
item
in
our
process.
So
we
do
this
notice
that
intent
that
were
there
were
to
earlier
on
the
agenda
for
much
less
exciting
topics,
and
then
we
vote
to
introduce
the
item.
A
A
If
any
councilmember
brought
a
introduction
for
rent
control
or
another
item,
I
would
be
very
likely
to
support
it
because
I
don't
want
to
stop
a
discussion
before
it
starts,
and
this
is
a
very
important
discussion
to
have
I
think
we
will
be
best
served
if
we
focus
on
the
governance
question
before
us
and
not
on
people
or
personalities.
I
was
among
a
group
of
council
members
that
suggested
this
last
term
with
a
different
mayor
and
a
different
police
chief
and
I'll
have
more
to
say
about
the
content
of
this.
A
But
at
this
point,
when
we're
discussing
a
motion
to
postpone
indefinitely,
which
creates
such
a
lack
of
transparency
and
confusion
for
anyone
who
would
want
to
engage
on
this
I
can't
support
this
motion
and
then
again,
like
I'll,
have
more
to
say
about
the
actual
motion
that
comes
some
of
our
Gordon
has.
And
hopefully
we
decide
not
to
postpone
this
indefinitely.
Councilmember
Gordon.
K
C
K
Apologize
if
somehow
my
action
was
offensive
to
anybody
in
bringing
this
forward
to
councilmember
Palmisano,
that
the
language
that's
posted
online
is
the
same
thing
that
I
dropped
off
in
your
office
shortly
after
committee,
the
whole
I
gave
you
two
versions
of
the
potential
language
and
I
said:
I
preferred
this
one,
and
so
you
did
see
it
then,
and
that's
the
same
thing
that
we
talked
about
then
and
I
appreciate
that
you're
opposed
to
it,
but
I
did
try
to
get
the
word
out.
This
is
actually
something
that
I've
talked
about.
K
I
think
I've
written
about
it.
There's
an
article
on
Southside
pride
that
was
it
something
like
2010,
certainly
brought
it
up
after
Jamar,
Clark
last
term
talked
about
it
as
an
idea.
I
think
that
I
was
struck
at
committee
of
the
whole.
When
we
were
listening
to
everybody
once
again
coming
to
the
council
and
say,
could
you
please
do
more?
Could
you
please
lean
in?
K
Could
you
please
take
on
the
challenge
and
try
to
help
develop
and
guide
policy
with
the
police
department
so
that
we
can
help
make
sure
that
everybody
is
safer
in
our
city
and
I
brought
the
idea
of
publicly
and
openly
at
a
meeting
when
we
were
all
here,
some
people
responded
to
it.
Some
people
responded
to
it.
Favorably
that
was
three
weeks
before,
and
actually
that
was
a
few
days
before
I
would
even
have
to
give
notice
of
intent
and
that's
the
way
we
do
things
around
here.
We
have
a
new
idea.
K
We
want
to
try
out
we're
gonna
bring
to
the
council.
We
notify
everybody
ahead
of
time
and
I
actually
notified
people
at
committee
of
the
whole
and
the
mayor
that
I
might
bring
it
up
at
the
committee
as
a
notice
so
that
they
knew,
and
then
we
had
a
three
week
time,
and
actually
it's
been
pretty
amazing.
This
is
an
idea
that
obvious
Lee
has
sparked
the
attention
of
our
community
and
we've
already
started
engaging
in
a
bigger
dialogue
about
what
does
it
mean?
Where
does
this
archaic
thing
come
from?
K
So
I
hope
that
we
can
at
least
move
it
forward.
So
we
can
bring
it
to
intergovernmental
relations
and
I'm,
encouraging
the
chair
of
that
community
to
take
some
community
input
on
it.
I
mean
I've
been
around
here
a
long
time.
We
get
to
bring
ideas.
We
have
election
certificates,
we
bring
them
forward
if
we
don't
have
seven
votes,
they're
going
to
stop
and
we'll
see,
but
this
is
even
bigger
than
that
and
the
engagement
could
be
potentially
much
larger
because
all
I'm
asking
is
the
opportunity
to
put
it
on
the
ballot.
K
So
democracy
can
make
a
decision
about
it.
We
can
have
a
discussion,
so
I
hope
that
will
move
forward
on
that.
Also,
if
we
move
forward,
it
would
help
me
answer
some
of
the
questions
that
councilmember
Palmisano
posed.
Remember
that
she
wanted
to
know
answers
for.
Well,
it's
pretty
hard
to
answer
them.
I
think
that
the
simplest
answer
is
to
say
think
of
how
it
is
with
the
fire
department,
with
public
works
with
the
city
coordinator
with
the
city
attorney
with
regulatory
services
with
every
single
other
department.
That's
how
thing
would
be
managed.
K
We
would
expect
the
department
head
to
take
action,
maybe
they'd
confer
if
they
had
time
with
the
mayor.
The
council
president,
the
committee
chair-
maybe
they
wouldn't
the
police
chief,
would
certainly
have
all
the
authority
and
ability
to
respond
in
any
kind
of
emergencies
that
they
have
now
based
on
the
policies
that
we've
already
set.
K
Oh,
that's
right,
based
on
the
policies
is
the
police
chief
and
the
mayor
have
said,
because
the
council
doesn't
get
to
set
those
policies
also
I
think
it's
I'm
not
sure
what
the
rhetorical
device
is,
but
acting
as
if
all
council
members
would
be
able
to
adopt
policies
for
their
wards.
If
we
do
that
with
Public
Works
and
the
fire
department
than
anything
else,
I
suppose
we
could
decide,
we
get
to
do
that.
The
automatic
privileges
I
think
went
away
decades
ago,
and
that's
not
my
intention
at
all
I,
don't
think!
K
That's
why
it's
government
and
I
don't
think
that
would
happen
and
I'm
I,
suspect,
there's,
probably
a
lot
more
questions.
I
think,
there's
probably
a
lot
more
thoughts
and
feelings
that
the
people
of
Minneapolis
have
about
this
idea:
community
members
and
engaging
them
and
I
look
forward
to
having
that
discussion
after
we
hopefully
vote
down
this
motion
to
postpone
indefinitely.
I
A
I
Madam
president,
the
my
constituents
in
Ward
5,
many
of
them
you
know,
know
Ward
as
the
monolith,
but
many
of
my
constituents
were
Ward.
5
do
expect
me
to
be
able
to
respond
to
concerns
about
police
and
when
the
reality
is,
is
that
we
actually
don't
have
that
much
power
to
to
respond
to
our
constituents
in
that
way.
That's
not
what
I
signed
up
to
do.
I
I
didn't
I,
didn't
sign
up
to
not
take
ownership
and
responsibility
for
what
happens
in
the
city,
and
you
know
I
think
that
through
this
process
we
can
shape
and
hash
out
the
the
specifics
of
of
this
policy
and
and
what
it
would
entail,
but
I'd
like
to
make
sure
that,
as
we
have
a
conversation
that
we
have
a
conversation
about,
the
policy
right
and
I,
don't
find
it
appropriate.
For
you
know,
members
of
this
body
to
question
the
motives
of
other
council
members,
the
intentions
of
other
council
members,
I,
don't
find
that
appropriate.
I
I
find
that
is
I
find
that
we
should
discuss
the
merits
of
the
policy
and
and
not
get
into
personality
politics.
I'm,
not
offended
by
council,
council
member
kulmann.
Sano's
motion,
but
I,
don't
agree
with
it
and
I
would
I
would
like
to
matter.
President
would
like
to
call
the
question
because
I
think
we
could
talk
about
this
all
day,
but
I
think
that
on
this
particular
motion,
I'd
like
to
call
the
question
and
so
that
we
could
get
to
the
get
to
the
original
motion.
Thank.
A
J
E
D
Madam
President,
if
I
can
jump
in
and
clarify,
the
motion
was
made
a
priority
motion
to
call
the
question.
What
that
does
is
cease
any
further
discussion
and
move
back
to
the
question
to
immediately
vote
on
the
motion
to
postpone
indefinitely.
If
it
passes
there
was
a
second
we're
determining
whether
or
not
there
is
a
two-thirds
vote
to
stop
for
the
discussion
on
the
pending
motion
to
postpone
so
a
yes
vote
is
a
vote
to
stop
discussing
and
vote
on.
The
question
right
now
and
no
vote
is
to
continue
to
discuss
I.
D
A
J
J
D
A
A
G
Came
out
on
president
I
will
be
voting
in
favor
of
the
motion
to
refer
this
item
to
igr,
but
I
would
like
to
be
very
clear
about
why
when
I
campaigned,
I
was
always
clear
that
I
would
be
an
evidence-based
policy
maker
and
I
have
adhered
to
this
core
value
since
taking
office.
Today's
vote
is
not
to
put
this
question
on
the
ballot
this
year
to
begin
the
legislative
process
and
conversation
about
what
a
more
transparent,
accountable
governance
of
policing
could
look
like.
G
My
constituents
call
me
all
of
the
time
and
say
do
something
about
the
police,
whether
that's
about
police
misconduct
or
response
times
or
folks,
will
call
and
say
do
something
for
the
police
in
terms
of
putting
systems
and
structures
in
place
that
support
officer
wellness,
for
example,
truth
be
told.
There
are
very,
very
few
mechanisms,
if
any
for
me,
as
a
council
member
North,
Side
Council
member,
to
do
anything
except
for
make
threats
with
the
budget
which
goes
deep
goes
against.
G
My
deep
respect
for
chief
arredondo
I
will
be
voting
YES
today,
because
I
support
the
City
Council
having
legislative
authority
over
the
police
department,
legislative,
not
executive.
We
are
not
talking
about
14
people
with
executive
authority
over
the
police
department.
We're
talking
about
what
many
other
cities,
including
Seattle
and
New
York,
have
done
or
have,
which
is
a
more
transparent
legislative
process
for
making
policy
changes
in
how
their
police
department
operates.
G
I
would
like
to
emphasize
the
lack
of
interest
in
being
involved
in
the
daily
operations
of
the
police
department,
which
I'm
pretty
sure
is
shared
by
all
of
my
eggs.
I
have
heard
from
my
constituents
who
feel
very
passionately
for
or
against
a
charter
amendment
and
I
hear
and
share
much
of
the
same
excitement
and
concerns
about
such
a
change.
I
am
NOT
voting
YES
today,
because
I
I
think
amending
the
Charter
is
the
right
way
to
achieve
what
we
are
seeking
to
achieve
here.
G
I
am
voting
YES,
because
I
will
be
continuing
to
work
closely
with
the
civil
rights
Department
to
do
in-depth
research
about
what
other
cities
are
doing,
to
increase
transparency
in
their
policing
policy,
making
process
that
work
might
not
lead
to
any
charter
change,
but
all
solutions
should
be
explored
with
that
information.
Then
I
will
be
informed
enough
to
make
a
decision
one
way
or
the
other,
while
something
this
high-stakes
has,
of
course,
become
politicized
and
who's
on
whose
team
so
I
want
to
make
myself
very,
very
clear.
G
M
Thank
you,
madam
president.
I
really
appreciate
councilmember,
Cunningham's
comments
and
and
agree
with
a
great
deal
of
Allah
said
this
is
a
vote
to
continue
the
conversation
and
I
think
it's.
It
would
be
odd
to
say
we
haven't
had
enough
conversation,
so
we
should
go
to
shut
down
conversation
or
to
postpone
it
in
that
way.
I
think
we
can
move
it
forward.
I
am
pretty
skeptical
and
I've,
told
council
member
Gordon
that
we're
gonna
get
it
done
on
the
timeline.
You
know
that
we
get
it
to
this
year's
ballot.
M
I
think
there
is
a
lot
of
conversation
to
be
had,
but
I
think
starting
the
conversation
knowing
that
we're
not
going
to
force
it
we're
gonna
do
this
in
a
way
that
gets
us
to
good
policy.
Is
the
right
thing
and
I'm
not
going
to
vote
for
anything
moving
forward
that
doesn't
reassure
my
mayor's
executive
power
I
think
it's
very,
very
important
that
there
be
a
very
clear
chain
of
command
when
decisions
need
to
be
made
in
day-to-day
operations.
M
M
Think
our
job
as
policymakers
is
to
look
at
the
policy
merits
is
to
look
at
is.
Is
there
a
good
idea
here
that
we
should
be
debating
and
that
we
should
be
debating
out
in
the
open
where
the
public
can
see
us?
Do
it
and
can
understand
why
this
does
or
doesn't
pass
so
I'll
be
voting
in
support
of
the
introduction.
N
You,
madam
president,
I,
won't
belabor
all
the
points.
I
very
much
appreciate
customer
Cunningham's
kind
of
conversation
about
this
and
very
much
in
the
exact
same
spot.
For
me,
it
really
is
about
accountability.
It
really
is
about
how
are
we
responsive
to
community
members?
I
think
that
this
issue
has,
and
by
issue
I
mean
the
police
shooting
of
citizens
of
Minneapolis
I?
N
Think
I
don't
want
that
to
get
lost,
that
this
is
this
is
extremely
serious
and
that
things
have
to
be
moving
and
that
the
City
Council
needs
to
have
more
policy
levers
to
hold
the
police
accountable
to
help
reform.
What's
already
there
with
folks
that
are
interested
in
making
that
change.
Thank
you.
J
You,
madam
president,
I'd
like
to
make
a
priority.
Most
motion
and
I'll
pass
that
out
now
just
to
be
clear,
a
motion
to
postpone,
as
I
mentioned,
to
continue
the
conversation.
It
doesn't
mean
we're
not
going
to
keep
talking
about
it,
we're
not
ready
to
yet
bring
it
forward
to
the
very
important
charter.
Part
of
the
process.
J
It
talks
about
talking
about
it
more
at
the
committee
of
the
whole,
where
everyone
can
participate.
It
talks
about
moving
this
to
the
committee
of
the
whole
to
a
to
allow
study,
review
an
input
from
all
councilmembers
and
to
invite
feedback,
specifically
from
the
public
I'd
like
to
speak
on
that.
If
that's
all
right,
no.
A
D
A
You
so
I
have
put
myself
in
queue
next
and
I
would
like
to
speak
to
the
underlying
motion
from
Council
member
Gordon.
I
support
come
over
Gordon's
subject
matter,
introduction
again,
as
I
said
earlier,
I
know
that
our
process
has
a
lot
of
sort
of
jargony
terms,
but
I
actually
find
it
to
be
very
helpful
and
transparent
to
announce
before
we
plan
to
make
a
policy
change
even
begin,
which
is
called
Notice
of
Intent
and
then
to
do
the
subject
matter.
A
Introduction,
which
then
alerts
folks
in
the
city
that
we're
considering
an
idea,
be
a
zoning
change,
a
change
to
our
Complete
Streets
policy
or
any
other
type
of
policy
that
the
City
Council
has
the
authority
to
adopt.
And
then
it
is
referred
to
the
committee
for
our
staff
to
begin
work
on
it.
And
then
any
proposal
often
has
informal
Public,
Engagement
or
staff,
does
Public
Engagement
and
has
a
public
hearing
where
the
folks
from
across
Minneapolis
and
any
stakeholder
can
come
and
speak,
and
that
would
happen
at
multiple
stages
during
this
kind
of
process.
A
I
want
to
say
that
to
the
folks
who've
been
engaging
after
police
violence
and
after
shootings
I
know
that
this
change
is
not
enough
and
it
does
not
even
begin
to
address
the
pain
in
our
community
and
I
want
to
say
that
my
constituents
have
been
contacting
me
for
the
past
four
and
a
half
years
asking
me
to
do
more
on
policing
and
the
the
fact
is.
The
City
Council
does
not
have
policy
authority
over
a
police
department
under
the
city
charter
and
I.
A
Think
councilmember
Gordon
has
examples
from
the
past,
where
he's
moved
policy
through
the
council.
That
then
did
not
implement
it
because
of
this
charter
rule
in
our
city
and
I
think
it
is
worth
having
the
conversation
about
whether
or
not
our
constituents
want
us
to
be
able
to
make
policy
over
the
police
department.
So
this
isn't
about
some
list
of
policies
that
this
mayor
won't
support.
A
It
is
about
changing
the
process
to
create
more
civilian
oversight,
more
citizen
involvement
and
more
transparency
and
clarity
about
how
police
policy
decisions
get
made,
because
right
now
what
happens
as
the
mayor
goes
into
a
back
room
and
asks
the
police
chief
nicely
to
make
a
change
and
they
may
or
may
not-
and
we
know
from
the
past
and
I
hate
to
drag
this
up.
For,
but
former
mayor
Rybak
tried
to
remove
a
police
chief
and
was
overridden
by
the
City
Council.
A
We
have
a
lot
of
lack
of
transparency
and
authority
in
our
current
command
chain
and
again
that
is
not
again
about
any
particular
chief
or
mayor.
It
is
baked
into
our
system
of
government
and
I
think
that
the
people
of
Minneapolis
deserve
a
chance
to
weigh
in
on
how
this
system
of
government
is
working
for
them
or
not.
A
I,
don't
see
how
we
could
have
a
more
transparent
or
involved
process
than
the
one
that
councilmember
Gordon
has
proposed.
I
have
never
voted
against.
Subject
matter
introduction
to
stop
a
piece
of
work
that
a
colleague
has
brought
forward
before
it
has
even
began,
and
I
won't
do
that
in
this
case,
I
appreciate
that
all
of
the
work
that
these
council
members
that
the
mayor
and
our
police
chief
are
doing
in
this
time.
This
is
not
the
first
time
that
this
has
been
brought
up
as
a
proposal.
A
J
J
I
would
like
to
offer-
and
that's
before
you
now
I
see
it
now
great
so
by
me,
speaks
to
this
motion.
I
appreciate
these
things
that
my
colleagues
are
saying.
I
think
that
we
all
deserve
to
have
an
opportunity
to
weigh
in
I'd
like
to
have
a
real
conversation
about
what
stay,
to
day,
going
to
be
the
responsibilities
of
counsel,
then
versus
the
mayor's
office
and
I
think
it
is
fundamentally
irresponsible
to
put
something
on
the
ballot
or
to
look
to
change
our
charter
without
a
really
healthy
long
discussion
of
it.
J
If
the
author
has
any
proposals
he
can
share
with
us
and
what
the
reception
from
the
mayor
has
been
to
these
proposed
changes.
Questions
that
I
just
have
in
my
head
are:
what
policies
do
you
want
to
implement?
I
think
we've
made
a
lot
of
progress
in
the
last
year.
We're
not
done.
We
have
a
lot
of
ideas
coming
forward.
Do
you
still
plan
to
do
that?
If
you're
successful
here
without
talking
to
the
chief
and
the
mayor,
is
what
I
wonder
another
big
problem
here?
J
J
I
can't
ask
someone
to
vote
on
something
they
have
no
idea
what
it
is
and
neither
can
I.
Perhaps
all
of
my
fellow
council
members
need
to
lay
out
their
policing
plans.
That
would
be
a
way
to
hold
ourselves
accountable
if
we're
defusing
control
amongst
14
people,
we
cannot
ask
people
to
vote
on
something
that
they
don't
know
about
us
I've
been
equally
as
transparent
as
I
here
for
several
years
now,
but
I'd
have
to
get
my
own
together
as
well.
J
I
disagree
with
some
of
my
colleagues
statements
that
our
current
operations
preclude
a
policy
role.
The
simple
fact
that
we
approve
a
chief
and
a
budget
fly
directly
in
the
face
of
that
we
have
oversight.
Today
we
have
oversight,
not
control,
it's
indirect,
but
we've
done
some
great
things.
For
example,
a
separation
ordinance
that
really
talks
about
how
police
can
go
and
approach
a
member
of
our
community.
J
What
they
can
and
can't
say,
has
given
some
of
our
immigrant
communities
I,
know
great
comfort
as
to
how
our
MPD
are
there
to
help
them
and
not
be
an
arm
of
immigration,
control
or
enforcement.
On
this
note,
I
still
don't
know.
What
do
you
want
to
do
because
the
only
thing
I
know
or
that
we
know
about
some
of
the
people
talking
about
this-
is
that
last
year,
in
an
election
year,
they
said
they
wanted
to
envision
Minneapolis
to
be
a
place
without
police.
They
signed
a
candidate
questionnaire
about
it.
J
Now
they
want
more
control
over
the
police.
The
runner-up
for
mayor
a
candidate,
many
of
my
colleagues
said
they
were
putting
on
the
ballot
said
he
wanted
to
disarm
the
police.
So
we
deserve
to
know
exactly
what
all
council
members
want
to
do
with
this
newfound
power
over
the
department
if
they
get
it,
because
if
this
is
a
step
to
disarm
police
altogether
or
abolish
the
apartment,
get
rid
of
the
department,
that's
a
conversation.
J
Let's
work,
I'm
really
interested
in
working
on
a
different
model
for
public
safety,
but
the
Charter
moves
like
this
I
fear
would
paralyze
the
vision
of
our
new
chief
I
think
we
need
to
give
him
a
chance.
I
think
we
need
to
work
with
him.
This
would
allow
us
to
put
together
a
robust
set
of
policy
ideas.
It
would
would
make
our
policy
ideas
maybe
come
to
the
forefront
here
if
you've
got
a
great
idea,
I'm
so
eager
to
hear
it,
but
first
rushing
charter.
J
A
F
My
colleagues
are
welcome
at
intergovernmental
relations
to
be
a
part
of
this
process.
I
welcome
public
feedback
as
well
I
hope.
My
colleagues
vote
against
this
substitute
introduction.
I
think
we
need
to
be
consistent
with
where
we
send
these
items
and
consistent
with
our
own
rhetoric
and
I
will
therefore
call
to
question
on
this
I
think
we've
had
enough
discussion
on
having
a
discussion.
A
Come
I'm
sorry
I
have
like
really
lost
my
voice,
I'm
struggling
to
speak.
How
Thornburg
gordon
has
moved
to
call
the
question.
I'm
sorry
tells
Mark
Johnson
have
moved
to
call
the
question
on
the
substitute
motion.
Is
there
a
second
there's,
a
second
clerk
just
for
the
math
reasons,
we'll
call
the
roll
on
the
motion
to
call
the
question
how's.
E
A
J
D
J
D
A
F
You
Madame
president,
is
for
the
people
watching.
Normally
this
is
a
formality.
Normally
we
have
introduction
of
notice
and
these
topics
go
on
the
committee
and
that's
where
the
discussion
happens.
I
think
there's
been
a
lot
of
great
points
raised
today,
questions
about
what
the
proposal
is
by
my
colleagues
and
that
deserves
to
be
discussed
in
committee.
That
deserves
to
be
heard.
We
deserve
to
be
able
to
look
at
this
proposal
and
even
talk
about
things
like
the
timeline
on
it.
I
know
there
was
concerns
around
some
council.
F
Members
might
not
want
the
responsibility
for
policy
making
around
the
police
department.
There's
even
been
the
thought
of
well.
Does
this
get
enacted,
then,
in
the
next
term,
allowing
council
members
to
fulfill
their
current
term
with
their
current
responsibilities
around
this,
and
we
do
these
notice
of
intense
all
the
time
and
I
agree
this
one's
a
pretty
big
topic,
and
so
you
know,
ideally,
you
do
a
lot
of
legwork
up
front
on
it.
F
I
know
that
the
author
of
this
introduction
has
specifically
apologized
for
that
and
said
you'd
like
to
do
some
things
different,
but
I
also
disagree
with
this
idea
that
these
process
complaints,
even
though
the
processes
Kanpur
is
imperfect,
I
disagree
with
the
thought
that
this
wouldn't
have
happened.
If,
on
day,
one
of
this
new
council
taking
office
that
we
turned
around
and
did
this
introduction
in
this
notice,
so
I
think
we
need
to
have
this
conversation
I
think
we
need
to
continue
it
and
really.
A
Johnson
has
called
the
question
on
the
subject
matter:
introduction
brought
by
councilmember
Gordon
that
needs
a
second.
There
has
been
a
second
I
want
to
note
that
we've
been
joined
by
Mayor
fried
we
will
be
voting
now
on
whether
or
not
to
call
the
question
and
discussion
and
vote
on
the
subject
matter.
Introduction
clerk,
please
call
the
roll
on
that
motion.
Councilmember.
D
J
A
A
D
A
O
O
O
When
I
wasn't
salted
on
this
idea,
it's
not
because
I'm
taking
it
personal,
it's
because
I
represents
about
30,000
people
and
work
with
a
wide
range
of
folks
who
have
a
lot
of
different
experiences
with
public
safety
and
crime
in
our
neighborhoods
and
and
I'm
very
aware
and
sensitive
to
all
of
those
different
dynamics.
So
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
when
I
wasn't
engaged
on
this
issue,
I
felt,
like
my
community,
was
being
erased
from
the
conversation
I.
O
O
I
do
I,
do
not
feel
disabled
in
any
way
to
make
changes
and
to
deliver
strong
police
reform
to
our
community
and
and
I.
Just
want
to
that.
I've
had
a
big
learning
opportunity
through
this
discussion
to
understand
and
see
that
our
committee
perhaps
needs
more
of
my
guidance
in
assuring
through
some
of
the
ideas
that
people
may
have
in
their
head,
that
they
want
to
put
into
practicality
and
and
I've
been
doing
that
over.
The
last
couple
of
days
is
just
after
the
dust
settled
from
the
original
introduction
of
this
discussion.
O
I've
been
reaching
out
to
folks
on
the
committee
just
to
reaffirm
that
we
have
very
robust
tools
in
place
to
make
significant
impact
and
that
we
should
be
taking
advantage
of
those
things
and
just
asking
the
question
of
what
do
I
need
to
do
to
make
sure
that
folks
hear
that
message.
Clearly
that
we're
putting
time
energy
thinking
and
and
I
guess
commitment
to
that.
O
So
the
committee
again
that
I,
chair
and
and
that
I've
been
leading
for
the
past
six
months,
started
very
aggressively
with
a
community
engagement
agenda
that
took
a
lot
of
time
a
lot
of
effort,
a
lot
of
energy
that
I
think
is
perhaps
not
valued
as
much
as
it
should
be.
My
staff
worked
very
hard
on
this
and
we
engaged
hundreds
of
people
in
in
public
safety
conversations
that
have
never
been
done
before.
O
On
the
City
Council,
we
had
department
heads
from
almost
all
levels
of
our
institution
present
and
active
and
engaged
with
our
community
members,
and
we
were
working
towards
aligning
those
voices
with
our
committee's
work
plan
and
our
council
strategic
planning,
which
we
have
still
yet
to
do
so.
I,
don't
want
to
put
the
cart
before
the
horse
on
that
front
and
then
just
in
terms
of
like
them
the
responsibility
issue
of
you
know
what
this
change
would
mean
for
the
future
of
the
committee
and
so
forth.
O
So
what
we're
doing
is
looking
at
can
we
meet
twice
a
month?
Are
there
other
initiatives
that
we
can
start
to
really
divide
up
the
work
between
the
council
members
on
the
committee
to
ensure
that
everyone's
pulling
their
weight
and
really
championing
an
effort
or
an
issue
that
they
can
deliver
on?
And
the
committee
is
a
place
to
do
that.
So
I
think
that
that
brings
me
to
my
point,
which
is
I,
would
really
love
to
see
the
Public
Safety
Committee
involved
in
the
in
the
codification
of
this
initiative.
O
So
I'm
wondering
if
my
colleagues
would
be
willing
to
support
a
motion
to
add
the
Public
Safety
Committee
to
this
next
step.
In
this
conversation,
I
appreciate
consumer
Palmisano
x'
motion
to
try
to
make
it
to
the
committee
of
the
whole
so
that
we
can
have
our
council
vice
president
present
and
actively
involved
in
shaping
this
initiative.
O
I
understand
that
motion
failed,
so
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
support
the
the
language
that
we
have
in
addition
to
adding
the
Public
Safety
in
a
joint
meeting
with
igr,
to
continue
the
conversation
to
have
the
committee
members
and
the
committee
workload
that
represents
this
body
of
work.
Yeah
part
of
it
I
think
that
would
be
a
natural
connection.
It
might
be
a
good
way
to
reconcile
some
of
the
differences
that
we're
having
in
the
approach
that
has
been
chosen
to
lead
this
conversation.
A
Mcconnell
has
moved
to
amend
the
subject
matter.
Introduction
I
do
see
cousin
or
Gordon
talking
with
a
clerk.
Is
there
a
second
on
the
motion?
There
is
a
second
mr.
clerk.
Maybe
you
could
clarify
for
us
since
there
seems
to
be
a
lot
of
discussion
and
then
I
think
maybe
comes
more
Gordon.
We
could
hear
from
you
as
well
about
the
process
going
forward
through
our
committees
before
this
would
come
back
to
the
council.
A
So
could
you
just
I
know
that
we
spent
a
good
long
time
on
this
at
kau,
but
perhaps
you
could
help
us
remember
what
will
happen
at
the
committee's?
Usually
it's
just
the
staff
direction
na
nanika
on
a
consent
agenda,
but
what
actions
would
need
to
be
taken
and
then
I
don't
know.
If
consular
recording
wants
to
weigh
in
on
the
committee
assignment.
D
Madam
President:
this
is,
as
you
noted,
the
first
official
process
that
goes
into
a
procedure
with
an
ordinance,
although
it
is
usually
a
pro
forma.
As
several
members
have
noted,
it
is
the
first
opportunity
for
a
member
of
Council.
If
successful,
to
remove
an
item
you
have
to
think
of
the
legislative
process
as
a
conveyor
belt.
If
an
idea
is
put
on
the
de
facto
process
is
that
it
will
go
forward.
So
the
introduction
is
the
first
time
to
take
an
idea
off
that
conveyor
belt.
So
the
introduction
is
a
normal
motion.
D
It's
open
to
debate,
it's
open
to
amendment
as
we've
been
going
through
that
process.
Today
again
appreciating
it's
not
normally
done
under
those
rules.
The
council
refers
the
ordinance
to
the
committee
that
has
subject
matter
jurisdiction.
We
had
decided
you,
the
council,
had
decided
as
part
of
its
organization
this
year
that
the
subject
matter
committee
is
the
intergovernmental
relations
committee.
So
matters
that
relate
to
the
charter
to
charter
amendments
or
to
the
Charter
Commission
are
routinely
referred
by
the
president
to
the
inter
government
relations
committee.
D
That
does
not
mean
that,
of
course,
this
body
could
not
decide
to
refer
it
to
either
a
joint
meeting
of
multiple
committees
or
to
a
serial
number
of
committees
in
order
if
they
chose
to
do
that.
So
that's
up
to
the
council
to
decide
how
the
referral
is
done
once
it
gets
referred
to
a
committee
or
multiple
committees.
Those
committees
then,
are
in
charge
of
reviewing
and
perfecting
the
proposal.
That
is
the
subject
matter
of
an
ordinance
in
a
manner
where
can
be
referred
back
to
the
council.
D
The
introduction
today
counts
under
the
Charter
as
the
first
reading.
The
Charter
requires
two
readings
of
every
ordinance,
so
today
we
are
giving
it
its
first
reading.
If
the
motion
introduced
passes
at
the
committee
level,
the
committee
is
charged
with
refining
the
proposal,
putting
it
in
a
form
that
can
come
back
to
the
full
council
for
its
second
reading
under
the
Charter
and
at
that
time,
potential
action.
Public
engagement
in
this
councils
process
is
done
at
the
committee
level.
D
As
you
know,
so
the
committee
would
be
responsible
for
conducting
a
public
hearing
and
allowing
for
input
from
the
community
at
that
stage.
Prior
to
coming
back
for
its
second
reading
to
the
full
council,
because
it's
an
ordinance,
every
official
act
of
the
council
is
in
subject
to
the
mayor's
consideration.
The
mayor
has
essentially
two
choices
to
either
approve
it
or
to
allow
it
to
become
effective
without
signature
or
to
disapprove
it.
D
The
difference
in
this
particular
case
is
because
this
ordinance
is
true
proposing
to
amend
our
city
charter,
our
Constitution,
that
is
under
state
statute,
not
just
under
the
council
rules
and
not
just
under
our
Charter.
Whenever
you're
proposing
to
amend
the
Charter,
you
must
send
it
to
the
Charter
Commission.
So,
in
addition
to
your
normal
process,
you
would
have
to
refer
this
after
the
committee
formulates
the
final
form
of
its
ordinance
to
the
Charter
Commission
for
its
consideration.
D
The
Charter
Commission
has
the
option
of
either
approving
the
proposal
you
submit
to
them
and
referring
back
that,
yes,
they
thinks
that
this
is
a
good
proposal
and
should
go
on
the
ballot.
The
Charter
Commission
can
reject
that
proposal
and
say
no.
They
don't
think
it's
a
good
idea
or
the
Charter
Commission
can
develop
a
substitute
proposal
that
it
thinks
is
a
better
proposal
and
send
it
back
to
the
council,
no
matter
what
the
Charter
Commission
does.
It's
up
to
this
body
to
either
submit
its
original
proposal
to
the
ballot.
D
J
You,
madam
president,
I
want
to
speak
in
support
of
councilmember
condos
amendment
here.
I.
Do
appreciate
that
at
least
the
subject
matter
where
this
is
at
least
the
subject
matter
committee
is
being
in
the
natural
process,
which
would
then
be
for
our
charter
amendments
to
go
to
igr
I
have
a
number
of
additional
questions
about
the
Meerut
of
this
proposal,
but,
as
it
was
earlier
pointed
out
because
we're
at
this
point,
I'll
save
those
for
the
future
too.
J
I
would
like
to
say,
however,
and
be
on
the
record,
that
many
of
the
arguments
I've
heard
today
from
my
colleagues
supporting
this
change
feel
misguided.
First,
there
is
no
world
in
which
this
change
enhances
accountability.
Right
now,
there's
one
person
held
accountable
for
policing
in
our
city
he's
sitting
right
next
to
me,
the
mayor,
no
matter
where
you
live,
is
responsible
for
the
functioning
of
our
Police
Department.
One
of
his
primary
responsibilities
is
to
work
with
the
chief
to
implement
their
collective
vision.
J
Every
four
years
residents
of
Minneapolis
get
to
weigh
in
on
the
work
that
ye
or
she
has
done
defusing
that
power
and
that
responsibility
to
13,
policymakers,
necessarily
diffuses
accountability
and
I,
don't
see
that
it's
possible
to
say
otherwise.
We
as
council
members,
may
not
be
able
to
be
held
accountable
to
our
constituents
for
police,
but
that's
not
the
point.
J
They
have
the
power
to
hold
one
common
person
accountable
across
the
city,
and
it
is
the
only
person
in
the
city
who
they
are
all
allowed
to
vote
for
he's
waiting
very
patiently
and
queue
to
finish
all
of
our
thoughts
here
so
right
now,
we
just
I
need
to
know
who's
in
charge
and
responsible
with
this
change.
The
buck
stops
where
the
buck
stops.
Where,
with
this
proposal
and
I'll
just
leave
it
at
that,
Gordon.
A
K
Think
you
I
just
wanted
to
speak
to
this
particular
amendment,
even
though
I'm
eager
and
anxious
to
debate
and
discuss
all
of
councilmember
Palmisano
some
interesting
ideas
that
she's
raised
previously
and
now
hopefully
there'll
be
time
to
do
that.
As
this
moves
forward,
I
don't
see
any
problem
with
having
some
kind
of
a
joint
meeting.
I
actually
think
it's
a
it's
a
good
move
that
another
committee
could
review
it
as
long
as
it
can
fit
in
the
timeline.
K
I
have
to
confess
to
everybody
that
I've
worked
pretty
hard
looking
at
the
calendar
and
to
make
sure
that
with
approval
today,
there
is
still
an
opportunity
to
get
this
on.
The
ballot
I
actually
met
with
the
Charter
Commission
and
spoke
to
them
about
it,
to
give
them
a
warning
ahead
of
time,
and
they,
the
chair,
committed
having
a
special
meeting
after
the
council
acts
because
they
don't
look
at
anything
till
the
council
actually
approved
some
language,
as
our
clerk
demonstrated
so
I
think.
K
With
the
assumption
that
the
Public
Safety
Committee
could
meet
with
intergovernmental
relations
on
August
1st,
the
chair
could
just
call
a
special
meeting.
They
could
both
hear
everything
they
could
be
there
together.
They
could
each
vote
separately
as
their
committees
and
what
the
recommendation
going
forward
is.
I.
Don't
have
any
objections
to
that
I
guess
we
could
hear
from
the
chair
of
igr
to
see
if
he
has
any
objections,
but
I
just
thought.
K
This
is
a
a
nice
tip
of
the
hat,
a
nice
reaching
out
over
the
hand
to
say
yep,
let's
work
on
this
together
and
see
if
we
can
come
up
with
something
in
the
end
on
August
3rd,
for
example,
it
actually
gets
us
13
votes
and
the
mayor
smiles
about
and
says.
Yeah
I
can
live
with
that.
Let's
work
together
and
make
sure
we
have
the
best
Police
Department
that
we
can
for
the
people
of
Minneapolis.
A
I
have
a
request
from
the
mayor
to
speak.
I
didn't
realize
we're
gonna
have
so
many
substitute
motion
for
discussion,
he'll
notes
so
I
like
that
invite
mayor
Frye
to
speak.
This
is
we're
still
discussing
some
of
our
condos
and
I
meant
to
move
this
to
a
joint
committee
meeting,
but
please
feel
free
to
speak
for
that
greater
question.
I.
P
Thank
you,
council
president
I
do
appreciate
the
the
opportunity
to
speak.
I
will
not
address
today
the
the
substance
of
the
underlying
introduction,
I.
Think
I've
made
my
points
several
times
and
articulated
my
my
viewpoint
that
this
is
most
certainly
a
bad
decision.
What
I
will
say
is
that
I
have
the
sincere
desire
to
collaborate.
A
council
member
Gordon
mentioned
just
a
second
ago
that
we
need
to
be
working
together
and
I
agree
entirely.
P
The
very
first
day
in
office
I
made
certain
that
every
council
member
had
access
on
a
daily
basis
to
my
office
and
access
on
a
daily
basis
to
collaborate
to
communicate
and
to
work
together.
I
continue
to
have
that
sincere
desire,
a
sincere
desire
to
carry
out
our
responsibilities
as
public
servants
in
a
responsible
fashion.
D
P
To
the
committee
whole
Committee
of
the
Whole
meeting,
when
this
topic
was
brought
up
and
several
council
members
took
positions
from
the
very
beginning,
our
office
was
not
informed.
The
Chief
of
Police
was
not
informed.
This
is
a
nearly
unprecedented
move
that
changes
the
department's
structure
that
has
been
in
place
for
about
a
hundred
years.
J
P
Has
not
been
taken
in
this
fashion
by
any
other
city
in
the
entire
country
and
as
a
it
as
a
move
that
should
be
thoroughly
considered
and
thoroughly
thought
through.
I
continue
to
have
that
sincere
desire
to
collaborate
with
all
of
you,
I
want
to
work
together
and
I
look
forward
to
hopefully
doing
that
in
the
future.
Sadly,
I
do
not
believe
that
that
mission
and
that
desire
was
there
from
the
beginning
on
this
particular
on
this
particular
issue.
A
O
Maybe
I
feel
like
we're
putting
her
it
Clerk's
office
on
the
spot,
a
lot.
So
here's,
let
me
explain
my
intent
and
then
let
me
ask
the
clerk
for
some
clarification
and
then
I'd
be
happy
to
work
with
with
ways
that
we
can
meet
the
intent.
My
intent
is
to
have
the
Public
Safety
Committee
have
a
codified
and
significant
role
in
this
process,
because
this
is
being
sent
to
IG
our
you
know:
I,
don't
I,
don't
feel
like
I'm
we're
meeting
that
goal
so
I'm
just
curious.
O
The
the
intent
of
my
motion
was
to
respect
council
member
at
Gordon's.
Time
line,
which
is
you
know,
IG
are
would
be
meeting
on
August
1st,
so
my
my
suggested
language
to
amend
the
motion.
That's
before
us
is
to
have
a
joint
meeting,
or
perhaps
more
currently
correctly
seated,
to
have
the
Public
Safety
Committee
call
for
an
official
meeting
that
meets
with
igr
on
August
1st
I.
Believe
that's
the
time
that
we're
looking
at
August
1st
and
so
that
the
idea
is
that
both
committees
are
meeting
at
the
same
time
we're
sharing
the
same
information.
O
We're
able
to
participate
together.
We're
asking
questions.
We're
receiving
the
same
amount
information
at
the
same
time.
Now.
What
does
that
mean
for
actions
that
can
be
taken?
That's
kind
of
a
question
I
have
for
a
clerk
if
there's
any
issues
with
quorum
with
voting
that
sort
of
thing,
but
but
again,
if
my
intents
can
be
met
in
other
ways,
I'm
happy
to
entertain
those
things
and
would
actually
appreciate
direction
from
the
council
leadership
on
some
some
of
this
idea.
O
D
Madam
President
understand
the
question
is:
what
is
the
effect
of
calling
a
special
meeting
of
the
public
see
or
Emergency
Management
Committee
at
the
same
time,
so
that
they're
meeting
jointly
with
the
inner
government
Relations
Committee
to
jointly
consider
the
proposal
being
referred
to
them?
The
effect
of
that
emotion,
if
passed,
would
be
that
you
are
having
two
separate
committees
meeting.
D
At
the
same
time,
both
committees
would
have
to
have
a
quorum
of
their
members
present
in
order
for
those
meetings
to
continue
at
the
end
of
that
meeting,
any
actions
taken
are
taken
separately
by
the
two
committees
and
would
require
the
normal
majority
vote
to
move
anything
forward
from
each
of
those
committees.
I
have
quickly
looked
at
the
membership.
I
believe
that
the
membership
only
has
one
cross
over
the
inter
government
relations
committee
is
chaired
by
council
member
Johnson
and
includes
the
vice
president,
Jenkins
councilmember,
Schrader
or
sámi
council
president
bender
and
councilmember
Reich.
D
The
public
safety
emergency
management
committee
is
chaired
by
councilmember
Cano
and
includes
councilmembers
Fletcher
Cunningham
Palmisano
Council
vice
president
Jenkins
and
council
member
Ellison.
So
there
is
one
member
who
crosses
between
both,
assuming
that
we
have
a
quorum
and
assuming
that
the
committees
act.
If
they
take
the
same
exact
action,
then
that
action
is
what
the
two
committees
would
jointly
be.
Referring
back
to
the
council
for
the
council's
consideration
at
its
next
regular
meeting
following
the
August
first
joint
meeting
of
the
two
committees
to
be
considered.
D
If,
however,
there
is
a
disagreement
between
the
committee's
then
both
reports
would
be
forwarded
to
the
council.
It
would
be
the
effect
of
a
committee
not
taking
action,
so
the
action
of
both
of
those
committees
would
be
forwarded
to
the
full
council,
and
the
full
council
would
then
have
to
decide
which
of
the
committee
recommendations
to
move
forward
at
that
point.
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank.
O
You
for
the
clarification
and
I
believe
that,
if
there
is
some
kind
of
a
separate,
if
there
are
separate
actions
taken
in
that
joint
at
that
at
those
committee
meetings
that
are
meeting
at
the
same
time
in
the
same
place,
I
think
the
council
meeting
that
follows.
Those
two
committees
would
then
be
a
place
to
reconcile
some
of
those
differences.
O
You
know
this
is
assuming
there
are
differences,
so
I'd
like
to
be
optimistic
and
I
like
to
think
that
we're
going
to
keep
trying
to
work
together
better
and
that
we're
going
to
try
to
find
that
common
ground,
so
so
I
would
still
like
to
keep
the
the
language
of
having
the
first
reading
in
referral
at
with
a
joint
meeting
between
IG
R
and
P
SEM
on
I.
Believe
August.
O
G
You,
madam
president,
I,
will
I
support
this
motion,
so
I
will
be
voting
in
favor
of
it.
But
I
would
like
to
ask
my
colleagues
to
please
stop
leaning
into
a
lazy
narrative
that
we
as
progressives,
who
would
like
to
make
change
in
the
police
department,
are
somehow
silly
misguided
progressives
who
don't
understand
how
things
work.
I
have
heard.
G
Judgments
of
questioning
merit,
saying
this
guy
did
just
don't
understand
and
I
have
to
say
that
that
is
incredibly
insulting,
particularly
when
Ward's,
four
and
five
are
completely
being
decimated
with
trauma,
and
we
understand
that
firsthand
and
we
also
have
really
gotten
a
handle
on
the
system
here.
So
it's
very
insulting
to
lean
into
this
lazy
narrative
that
we
just
don't
understand.
G
What's
going
on
when
my
community
comes
to
me
with
this
trauma,
I
really
do
not
have
the
tools
to
be
able
to
make
the
kind
of
changes
as
right
now
I
we
as
a
council.
We
do
not
have
the
authority
to
say
before
a
city
employee
can
be
issued
a
gun
we
that
person
has
to
go
through
this
training.
This
training,
this
training
in
this
training.
We
don't
have
the
authority
to
do
that.
G
A
You
class
member
I
was
actually
going
to
similarly
just
remind
my
colleagues
to
just
please
try
to
stay
respectful
in
and
to
focus
on
the
issues
not
on
people.
That
is
a
rule.
I
stole
from
one
of
my
neighborhood
organizations.
I
did
want
to
say
that
I
support
the
motion.
I
would
love
to
work
together
with
the
chairs,
just
to
make
sure
that
we
create
a
process
that
isn't
confusing
to
the
public.
A
O
You,
madam
president,
I
just
it
comes
from
Cunningham's
articulation
of
some
of
the
I
think
tones
of
the
conversation.
You
know,
I
I,
do
appreciate
that,
and
and
thank
you
for
Rees
entering
us.
This
is
a
very
difficult
conversation,
but
also
a
very
hopeful
conversation
and
so
like
mitigating
those
two
feelings.
O
At
the
same
time
is
you
know
it's
a
good
exercise
for
us
as
a
governing
body
in
the
times
that
we're
in
right
now
of
deep
unrest
and
division
from
you
know,
specifically
coming
from
the
federal
government,
so
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
on
that
same
line,
I
would
appreciate
it.
If
folks
could
take
some
time
to
learn
the
work
that
the
Public
Safety
Committee
has
been
doing
now.
O
We
don't
have
to
rely
on
people
with
guns
to
keep
us
safe,
so
so
with
that
I
will
just
say
that
I
appreciate
councilmember,
Philippe,
Cunningham's,
point
on
that
and
and
I
want
to
express
and
expand
that
to
include
the
work
of
the
Public
Safety
Committee.
When
people
are
saying
you
know
pounding
the
fessing
we're
not
doing
enough.
Let's
look
at
the
list
of
things
that
Lenny
and
I
can
point
to
that
have
been
done.
We
have
a
separation,
ordinance,
weary
filled
lurking
and
and
spinning.
We
have
an
opioid
task
force.
O
Mpd
is
addressing
commercial
sexual
exploitation
in
ways
that
is
leading
the
nation.
We
have
an
amazing
u-visa
program
where
we're
doing
a
lot
of
really
good
work
and
and
I.
Think
part
of
what
we're
feeling
here
is
that
many
of
us
want
to
participate
in
the
work
of
police
reform
and
I.
Don't
want
us
to
leave
anyone
out
of
that.
That
includes
our
first
african-american
chief.
O
A
With
that,
we
have
no
more
council
members
and
Q
I
will
ask
the
clerk
to
please
call
the
roll
on
the
amendment
offered
by
councilmember
Cano
to
refer
this
to
a
joint
meeting
of
the
intergovernmental
relations
committee
and
the
public
safety
and
emergency
management
committee.
That
will
take
place
that
first
week
of
August.
E
E
D
A
K
Thank
you
very
much.
This
discussion
has
been
very
interesting.
It's
taken
us
down
many
twists
and
turns,
and
I
just
want
to
know
that
I've
been
here.
This
is
my
fourth
term,
so
I
have
been
on
the
council
on
three
terms.
Before
this
term.
You
can
do
subtraction
and
all
those
three
terms.
Twelve
years
I
was
vice
chair
of
the
Public
Safety
Committee.
So
I
had
a
lot
of
experience
up
to
this
point,
working
with
the
police
and
and
understanding
how
the
system
operates.
K
It
actually
took
me
a
while
to
understanding
the
this
particular
provision
in
the
Charter
also
throughout
that
time,
and
maybe
it's
because
I'm
minority
leader,
but
my
father
always
led
me
into
the
mayor's
office,
so
I'm
not
sure
what
what
or
that
what
that
means.
But
I
wanted
to
mention
a
couple
things
that
have
come
up
and
just
respond
to
it
a
little
bit
if
you're
confused
about
what
this
might
mean,
it
might
help
to
just
think
fire
chief
just
think
fire
chief.
How
does
the
council
work
with
relate
the
mayor?
K
Work
with
them
relate
with
the
fire
chief.
What
happens
when
there's
a
big
emergency
that
involves
the
fire
chief?
What
happens
in
your
ward
about
the
fire
department?
Do
we
get
to
it's
in
my
I
want
to
move
the
station
and
our
board.
You
know
so
think
about
that
and
I
think
that's
kind
of
the
understanding.
This
is
an
alignment
of
organizational
structure
that
I'm
after
here,
so
it's
consistent
and
it's
stable.
K
So
everybody
understands
how
our
government
works
and
there
are
different
departments
that
have
different
rules
that
operate
differently
and
there's
a
greater
alignment
there
and
I.
Don't
have
a
policy
agenda
that
I'm
thinking
of
with
this.
It
is
actually
more
about
process
if
you're
curious
about
reform
ideas,
I
have
I've,
certainly
written
about
him
there
in
my
newsletters
there,
probably
on
my
blogs
that
probably
published
in
newspapers
and
back.
K
This
was
one
of
them
that
I
have
brought
up
often
about
this
once
I
discovered
it
couldn't
and
I
discovered
it
really
one
day
when
Peter
Gander,
the
assistant
city
attorney
was
up
there.
This
is
probably
in
two
thousand
seven
or
eight
and
I
wanted
an
early
warning
system
and
I
didn't
understand
why
the
police
department
was
sponding
to
my
staff
directions
like
every
other
department
was
about
getting
them.
The
early
warning
system
set
up.
We
could
hear
about
it.
We
could
approve
what
the
early
warning
system
is.
K
This
is
a
system
so
that
there's
people
can
identify
red
flags.
Maybe
one
officer
needs
some
mental
health
assistance
or
some
training
or
some
work,
because
they're
at
risk
for
police
misconduct
and-
and
we
were
supposedly
going
to
get
it
way
back
then,
and
we
still
haven't,
and
then
the
city
attorney
informed
me.
Well,
you
can
move
staff
directions
in
your
committee,
but
really
what
it
is
because
of
this
charter
provision.
K
It's
a
request
of
the
department
and
they're
under
no
legal
obligation
to
fulfill
their
staff
direction
and
I'll
admit
we
sometimes
get
ignored
a
little
bit
by
some
of
the
other
departments,
but
it
does
feel
very
different
when
we
do
a
staff
direction
and
there's
a
timeline
on
that,
and
so
that's
when
I
thought.
Oh,
maybe
this
could
be
repaired
and
actually
what
I
see
this
is
doing.
K
It's
opening
up
a
door,
a
door
for
council
members
to
bring
ideas
in
about
police
policy
and
a
door
for
greater
transparency
about
them
and
a
formality
about
them
once
they're
set.
We
did
something
with
with
Tasers
years
ago,
because
the
police
department
wanted
to
spend
a
quarter
million
dollars
on
Tasers.
This
might
have
been
in
2011
or
something
in
committee.
Public,
Safety,
Committee
I
was
able
to
stop
the
quarter
million
dollars
for
the
tasers
and
I
said,
show
us
your
policy.
So
we
understand
how
they're
gonna
be
used.
People
are
really
worried.
K
There's
horrible
stories
about
what's
happened
with
taser
use,
develop
the
policy
and
they
actually
went
to
disciplined
review
Authority.
That's
the
Pratt's,
the
predecessor
of
our
PC
OSI
police
conduct
oversight
Commission.
Now
they
developed
a
great
policy,
they
brought
it
in.
They
told
it
share
it
with
us.
I
clarified
with
the
attorney.
Can
the
council
approve
this
policy
and
pass
it
and
we'll
know?
K
That's
the
police
department's
policy,
that's
up
to
the
chief,
so
they
shared
it
and
it
was
a
good
policy,
and
so
we
approved
the
quarter-million
dollars
and
then
we
went
on
our
way
and
actually
the
policy
was
posted
on
the
police
department's
website
for
about
six
months
and
then
somehow
it
just
disappeared.
I
heard
that
the
ideas
got
put
into
their
training
manual
and
it
was
no
longer
available
when
it
was
no
longer
out
there,
but
everybody
had
the
tasers
I'm,
assuming
they're
still
trying
to
basically
operate
under
that
same
policy.
K
But
if
that
had
been
a
policy
the
council
had
and
approved
on
the
recommendation
of
the
chief,
it
would
have
been
in
our
records,
it
would
have
been
on
the
website,
it
would
have
been
recorded
in
council
action
and
if
we
wanted
to
change
the
policy,
we'd
come
back,
we
discuss
it,
it
would
be
noticed,
and
everybody
would
understand
that
and
that's
what
I'm
hoping
that
we
could
do
with
this
I
know
I'm
going
to
get
more
opportunities
because
I'm
pretty
confident
the
subject.
Introduction
is
going
to
go
forward
now.
K
Maybe
we
can
even
go
forward
with
a
unanimous
vote,
we'll
see,
but
I
did
want
to
clarify.
There
was
a
question
that
we
talked
about
a
lot
on
some
survey
and
it
wasn't
really
about
envisioning
anything.
My
my
all-star
ate
looked
up
the
questionnaire
for
me
to
clarify
what
it
actually
said
and
it
said:
do
you
believe
that
we
could
ever
have
a
city
without
police?
And
my
answer
was
no
I
know
there
are
other
people
who
answered
yes,
I
believe
the
mayor
actually
answered
yes
down
the
question
here.
E
K
And
I'll
admit
that
if
we
changed
the
name
and
had
the
same
general
function,
I
mean
clearly
what
I
believe
we
need
is
to
build
a
support
system
of
trusted
people
who
are
seen
as
the
constructive
part
of
the
community
without
any
of
them
as
being
hostile.
But
whether
or
not
we
call
them.
Please
seem
secondary
I
said
in
my
answer:
to
eliminate
the
policing
functions.
We
need
to
eliminate
the
need
for
them
and
eradicate
the
root
causes
of
crime
and
violence.
K
It's
going
to
be
a
long
haul
and
there's
going
to
be
emergencies
and
people
are
going
to
need
help
and
they're
gonna
really
want
to
pool
their
resources.
So
when
they're
in
desperate
need
of
help,
they
can
maybe
get
some,
maybe
they're
trapped
on
some
gorge
by
the
river
or
something
and
maybe
they're
a
son
is
talking
about
jumping
off
some
tall
building,
I,
don't
know,
but
I
believe
we
need
people
to
respond
in
and
we
need
good
people
to
respond
and
we
need
to
base
that
on
public
health.
K
Community
engagement
and
a
discussion
about
it
and
I
believe
that
if
we
have
a
more
active
role,
if
we
welcome
our
responsibility
to
get
engaged
in
this,
as
a
council,
it'll
open
the
door
for
our
ideas,
but
it'll
also
open
the
door
for
the
community's
ideas.
Because
when
community
ideas
come
forward
right
now,
they
maybe
have
a
chance
to
get
the
chief
to
go
along
with
it
or
the.
K
Other
departments
and
other
areas
they
can
come
and
talk
to
us
individually,
one
by
one
and
start
to
build
some
support
for
those
ideas.
We
are
a
gateway
to
them
so
that
they
can
get
in
and
make
the
policy
I
want
us
to
open
the
doors
so
that
we
can
get
all
of
their
great
ideas
in
ours.
Vet
them
like.
We
do
other
policies
and
approve
them
in
a
transparent
and
accountable
way
and
I
think
that
this
little
tweak
to
the
Charter
can
do
that.
E
K
Our
police
chief
couldn't
operate
under
such
a
system.
Rondo
would
be
so
skilled
and
so
good
at
working
with
this
council
and
working
with
the
chair
and
understanding
it
immediately,
just
like
our
just
like
our
fire
chief
wasn't
is
in
our
in
our
public
works
director.
I
know
this
would
work
for
him.
A
I
worked
really
hard
to
become
the
president
of
the
City
Council
and
you
could
take
how
many
hours
you
spoke
with
me
and
the
questions
you
asked
me
and
multiply
them
by
12
to
determine
a
measure
of
that
and
the
first
day
of
the
public
safety
and
emergency
management
committee
meeting
I
walked
in
and
I
stood
back
there.
Next
to
my
policy,
aide
Ron
Harris
and
the
two
of
us
turned
to
each
other
and
said
it
was
all
worth
it.
A
So
that's
why
I
support
starting
this
conversation
and
I
feel
again
compelled
to
remind
folks
who
are
following
along
that
this
is
the
beginning
of
a
process
to
give
you
a
vote
and
a
voice
about
how
you
want
our
system
of
government
to
work
around
Public,
Safety
in
and
and
policing
and
I.
Think,
based
on
my
experience,
my
constituents
will
welcome
that
chance
to
vote
directly
and
if
they
vote,
no
I
will
respectfully
continue
to
work
with
the
powers
that
we
do
have
to
make
change.
So
I
have
cumber
Ellison
next.
Thank
you.
I
I
just
wanted
to
I'll
keep
a
brief
say
that
we
shouldn't
have
policy
that
hinges
on
the
individual
temperaments
of
a
mayor
or
a
chief
right.
We
should
that
policy
that
that
is
systemic
and,
while
you
know
I
have
a
lot
of
respect
for
the
mayor
and
when
he
sits
here,
and
he
says
that
hey
I'm
excited
to
collaborate
with
you
all
I
believe
this
mayor
when
he
says
that
right,
I
believe
the
this
police
chief
and
trust
this
police
chief.
I
I
There
will
be
a
different
police
chief
who
I
may
disagree
with,
and
not
trust
and
I
hope
that
we
can
build
sort
of
a
systemic
infrastructure
that
does
not
leave
our
constituents
sort
of
at
the
at
the
mercy
right
of
the
individual
temperaments
of
elected
officials.
I.
Don't
think
that
that's
and
I
think
that's
what
any
of
us
signed
up
to
do,
and
so
you
know
again,
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that's
why
I'm
supporting
that
we
have
this
conversation
and
as
the
and
as
a
the
amount
of
president
indicated.
I
O
You,
madam
president,
so
I,
you
know,
since
council,
member
Gordon
brought
it
up.
You
know.
I
did
want
to
say
that
I
I
did
respond
to
the
question
of
do
you
believe
you
can
live
in
a
world
without
police
and
and
I
affirmed
early
affirmative
Lee
responded
and
still
stand
by
that
answer
today.
I
think
that
we
need
to
whoever
answered.
Yes,
we
should
team
up
and
we
should
start
thinking
about
that.
O
I
think
that
that's
for
me
a
really
intuitive
way
to
lead
some
of
the
work
that
we
know
is
deeply
embedded
in
institutions
around
how
community
safety
has
been
defined
by
the
legacies
of
colonization
and
slavery
and
and
while
I
can
recognize
that
some
of
our
police
officers
are
doing
a
great
job.
Some
of
them
have
more
challenges
that
some
community
members
want
more
police
in
their
neighborhood
and
others
want
less
I
want
to
see.
O
If
we
can
hold
that
that
conversation
together
and
and
not
be,
you
know,
pigeon
told
as
crazy
people
or
something
like
that.
But
how
do
we
actually
bring
some
grounded
strategies
to
what
that
would
mean
and
and
to
reconstructing
our
society
in
ways
that
we
don't
have
to
carry
the
weight
of
the
past,
but
lead
with?
What
we
believe
is
hopeful
for
the
future,
so
I
wanted
to
just
you
know
acknowledge
that
it's
really
interesting
to
be
in
a
space
where,
where
the
charter
amendment
issue
has
been
brought
forward.
O
When,
when
the
question
that
I
heard
from
constituents
and
residents
last
year
was,
you
know,
will
you
support
living
in
a
world
with
with
no
police?
And
so
it's
it's
interesting
for
me
to
be
in
the
space
of
trying
to
kind
of
change
tracks
a
little
bit
as
we
were
hoping
to
dig
deeper
on
those
other
questions.
I
thought
you
know.
O
We
have
to
make
change
while
entertaining
new
structures
and
I
really
look
forward
to
getting
a
lot
of
answers
to
the
many
questions
that
are
being
proposed
about
what
this
change
would
actually
entail,
what
it
would
mean
and
to
be
able
to
actually
communicate
that
to
residents.
So
we
can
clearly
delineate
between
a
logistical
change
of
like
which
suit
does
the
cut
through
the
cops
report
to
versus
here
are
deeply
systemic
changes
that
we
know
will
result
in
in
the
changes
that
folks
want
to
see.
J
H
A
A
Carries
its
adopted
and
referred
to
a
joint
meeting
of
the
intergovernmental
relations
and
public
safety
and
emergency
management
committee
for
the
next
cycle
for
review
and
recommendation,
that
is
the
last
no.
That
is
not
the
last
item.
We
also
we
have
a
closed
session
after
this
as
well.
The
next
order
of
business
is
unfinished
business
and
we
have
a
charter
amendment
proposed
by
ordinance
related
to
debt
for
capital
expenditures.
Mr.
clerk,
you
have
an
update
for
us
on
this
item.
Madam.
D
A
Thank
You
mr.
Cook,
so
the
mote,
Council
member
Gordon,
moved
to
refer
this
item
to
the
intergovernmental
relations
committee
for
the
purpose
of
conducting
a
public
hearing
and
the
proposal
to
amend
the
city
charter
related
to
debt
for
capital
expenditures.
This
would
go
to
IG
our
next
cycle
and
return
back
to
the
City
Council
on
Friday
August
17th,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed
that
carries
the
proposed
charter.
Amendment
is
referred
to
the
IGR
committee
in
the
next
cycle.
The
next
order
of
business
is
new
business.
A
This
item
is
a
proposed
charter
amendment
that
was
initiated
by
the
Charter
Commission
to
be
submitted
to
the
voters
at
the
November
general
election.
Its
proposals
to
remove
references
to
liquor,
license
regulations
in
the
Charter,
the
Charter
Commission
conducted
as
public
hearing
and
received
favorable
testimony
which
is
linked
in
our
agenda
and
available
to
the
public
online.
The
Charter
Commission
has
referred
this
proposal
to
the
council
and
we
have
the
statutory
responsibility
for
studying
the
ballot
language
that
will
be
submitted
to
voters.
A
So
the
motion
I
will
make
is
to
refer
the
proposal
to
the
Internet
governmental
relations
committee.
To
formulate
recommended
ballot
language
is
there
a
motion?
I
moved
it
there's
a
second
I'm.
Sorry,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
that
carries
the
proposed
charter.
Amendment
is
referred
to
the
intergovernmental
relations
committee
at
the
next
cycle.
That
completes
the
business
items
on
our
printed
agenda.
Are
there
any
announcements
for
council
members
I
don't
see
any
we
are,
will
be
a
journey
into
a
closed
session
to
discuss
litigation
matters
listed
on
the
agenda.