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From YouTube: September 20, 2018 Committee of the Whole
Description
Minneapolis Committee of the Whole Meeting
A
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Andrea
Jenkins
and
I
am
going
to
call
this
regular
meeting
of
the
committee
of
the
whole
for
Thursday
September
20th.
To
order
with
me
if
the
diet's
today,
our
council
members,
Palmisano
Johnson,
Goodman,
Ellison,
Schrader
council,
president
bender
councilmember,
Cunningham,
Fletcher,
Reich,
Cano
and
Gordon,
and
let
the
record
reflect
that
we
do
have
a
quorum
of
this
committee,
and
so
we
are
going
to
begin
with
the.
A
We
have
one
discussion
item
today
regarding
the
tent
encampment
on
how
you
want
the
Avenue,
but
in
order
to
give
our
fullest
attention
to
that
topic,
I
would
like
to
quickly
run
through
our
committee
reports.
First
and
I
will
ask
committee
chairs
to
give
a
very
brief
report,
if
possible,
focusing
only
on
the
committee's
highlights
and
or
items
that
may
merit
discussion
and
tomorrow's
City
Council
meeting
and
before
we
begin
with
our
committee
reports.
I
do
want
to
recognize
that
we
had
in
the
audience
today
Commissioner
Peter
McLaughlin.
A
B
You,
madam
chair,
we
don't
have
anything
being
forwarded
to
Council
on
Friday
I'll
note
that
in
Budget
Committee
this
week
we
received
and
filed
our
budget
presentations
for
police
fire
911
ESS
errs
office
as
previously
planned.
Our
next
budget
committee
would
have
been
October
4th,
but
we
needed
to
move
that
date
for
the
annual
because
of
the
annual
trans
gender
equity
summit.
So
we
have,
after
looking
at
a
few
options,
rescheduled
that
on
people's
calendars
to
the
24th,
which
is
a
couple
weeks
later,
but
that
will
accommodate
everything
thanks.
A
C
Thank
you,
madam
vice
president.
The
economic
development
and
regulatory
services
committee
met
ten
minutes
ago,
and
we
and
all
of
these
people
were
here
for
it.
It
was
great
and
we
took
up
eight
items.
The
items
include
our
liquor
license
approvals.
The
gambling
license
renewals
general
license
renewals
items,
four
five
and
six
are
all
rental
license.
Reinstatements
and
items.
Seven
is
grant
acceptance
from
deed
the
Met,
Council
and
Hennepin
County's
environmental
response
fund,
so
I
understand
Commissioner
McLaughlin's
in
the
room.
So
thank
you
for
that.
C
A
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
We
have
seven
mat
matters
that
we
discussed
at
the
Enterprise
Committee
meeting.
We
have
recommendations
for
council
on
the
paid
parental
leave
policy,
IT
contracts
such
as
terminal
for
a
contract
extension
for
PeopleSoft,
an
RFP
for
service.
Now
we
had
the
minimum
wage
baseline
report
that
was
simply
received
and
filed
a
single
point
of
access,
collaboration
being
received
and
filed
for
a
way
to
access
data
from
the
police
department
and
the
rest
of
the
enterprise
together
and
the
city
coordinators.
Monthly,
updates,
I'm
happy
to
stand
for
questions.
D
You
vice
president
Jenkins,
the
housing
policy
development
committee
is
bringing
two
things
forward
and
Friday.
The
first
is
a
just
a
revised
bond
issuance
for
the
East
Towne
apartments
at
815,
6th
Street
and
the
and
item
we
took
some
testimony
and
a
staff
report
on
the
Hiawatha
encampment
and
we're
gonna
be
hearing
more
about
that
later
this
afternoon.
A
E
You,
madam
vice
president,
the
public
health,
environment,
civil
rights
and
engagement
committee
will
be
bringing
forward
three
items
for
consideration
at
tomorrow's
council
meeting.
The
first
is
a
gift
acceptance
for
the
use
of
space
and
facilities
at
Metropolitan,
State
University
for
the
urban
Scholars
Program.
A
A
G
You,
madam
chair,
the
Ways
and
Means
Committee
has
an
extensive
list
up
to
18
items
to
bring
forth
to
the
full
council.
The
first
three
items
are
contracts,
contract
amendments
and
the
fourth
item
is
a
bid
for
the
Minneapolis
Convention
Center
terrazzo
floor.
Updating
fifth
item
is
a
bid
for
the
Minneapolis
Convention
Center
steam
room,
cooling
equipment
renovation.
Project
sixth
item
is
a
bid
for
the
Minneapolis
Convention
Center
meeting
room
and
ballroom
replacement.
Seventh
item
is
a
bid
for
the
Target
Center
for
protection
anchor
project.
G
The
fayth
item
is
a
bid
for
the
telecommunications,
PBX
equipment
and
maintenance.
Ninth
item
is
a
gift
acceptance
for
the
city
travel
expenses
to
the
International
Association
of
transportation
regulators
annual
conference.
The
tenth
item
is
a
real
estate
transaction
with
Metropolitan
Council
for
the
Southwest
light
rail
project.
The
11th
item
is
a
contract
amendment
with
Patrick
born
for
professional
planning
and
coordination
services.
The
12th
item
is
a
contract
with
SMG
for
US
Bank
Stadium
traffic
control
services.
G
The
13th
item
is
a
grant
from
the
Minnesota
Department
of
Public
Health
for
the
Minnesota
expecting
and
parent
in
student
program.
The
14th
item
is
a
contract
with
coastal
realty
information
Inc
for
access
to
real
estate
information
database.
The
fifteenth
item
is
a
collective
bargaining
agreement
with
the
Teamsters
and
the
sixteen
item
is
a
collective
bargaining
agreement
with
a
machinist
unit.
G
H
You,
madam
vice
president,
I,
just
wanted
to
make
a
comment
on
the
contract
with
King
&,
Spalding
and
I
just
wanted
to
state
I'm,
not
on
the
Ways
and
Means
Committee
I
did
get
a
chance
to
watch
the
committee
video,
which
is
available
online
and,
as
of
today,
with
the
information
I
have.
My
intention
is
to
not
support
this
contract
going
forward.
I
would
have
a
hard
time
justifying
to
my
constituents
an
additional
one
hundred.
H
For
this
external
review
of
the
study
and
I
mentioned
that
today,
I
haven't
lobbied.
Any
colleagues
I'm
not
asking
anyone
to
voting
a
certain
way.
I
wanted
to
say
that
today,
because
I
may
be
missing
something
I'd
like
to
invite
anyone
to
give
me
information
that
may
be
different
than
what
I
just
stated,
but
again
in
conversations
of
civil
rights.
Department
I
feel
comfortable
with
that
position.
As
of
today.
H
I
I
think
that
I
think
that
we
have
to
either
prove
that
objectivity
along
our
own
department
was
lost
and
since
we
have
not
been
able
to
prove
that
I
think
that
I
want
to
honor
and
prop
up
the
work
that
they
did
in
order
to
provide
us
with
a
competent
and
clear
a
study
of
this
of
this
issue
and
so
for
that
reason,
I
think
that
I'm
going
to
affirm
the
work
of
the
Civil,
Rights,
Department
and
nmap
over
not
vote
on
this.
Not
over
this
item.
A
E
You,
madam
chair,
just
briefly
I,
wanted
to
echo
both
what
council,
president
bender
and
councilmember
Allison
said
in
addition,
I
think
that,
as
we
move
forward
with
this
conversation,
we
have
addressed
the
MPD
policy
that
was
not
in
place,
as
was
mentioned,
but
yet
we
still
have
not
talked
about
the
victims
who
have
survived
this
and
who
some
experienced
lifelong
disabilities.
We
have
not
talked
about
restitutions.
We
have
not
talked
about
reparations.
We
have
not
talked
about
who
is
going
to
be
held
accountable
for
that.
E
A
J
Members
right
on,
thank
you.
Madam
president.
Madam
chair,
the
zoning
and
planning
committee
will
bring
forward
four
items
for
approval
on
Friday.
The
first
is
granting
an
appeal
for
the
land
located
at
50,
DuPont,
Avenue,
north
and
100
during
Avenue
north.
The
second
is
the
granting
of
a
rezoning
for
1625
Marshall
Street
northeast.
The
third
is
also
approving
a
rezoning
at
1327
excuse-me,
1627,
Marshall,
Avenue
Northeast,
and
the
fourth
is
approving
an
environmental
assessment
worksheet
for
30
South.
Third
Street
and
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
J
H
You,
madam
chair,
we
have
three
items
from
the
executive
committee.
They
are
each
agreements
with
collective
bargaining
units,
the
911
supervisors
unit,
the
supervisors
unit
and
the
laborers
unit
on
each
of
these
items
and
on
all
of
the
labor
agreements
that
have
come
through
the
executive
committee.
I
just
wanted
to
lift
up
that.
A
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
are
there
any
questions
seeing
none?
We
will
close
out
our
committee
reports
and
open
up
our
discussion
item
for
today
regarding
the
tent
encampments
on
on
Hiawatha,
Avenue
and
and
certainly
recognizing
that
there
are
many
other
encampments
and
homeless
individuals
and
in
throughout
our
city.
A
That
also
deserved
the
same
level
of
attention
and
given
the
intensity
and
the
gravity
of
this
situation,
you
know
I
have,
as
the
chair
decided,
to
suspend
with
our
rules
of
the
public
comment
at
and
the
committee
of
the
whole
and
open
up
a
period
for
public
comment
to
last
for
15
minutes,
and
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
have
to
do
these
things
is
a
we
need
to
have
people
sign
up
for
public
hearings.
We
have
to
notice
public
hearings
so
that
people
all
people
can
have
an
opportunity
to
participate
in
in
these
conversations.
A
But
again,
given
the
gravity
of
this
situation,
I
felt
it
important
and
pertinent
to
have
some
discussion
and
before
we
open
up
the
public
hearing.
I
do
understand
that
Commissioner
McLaughlin
wanted
to
share
some
comments
with
the
body
today.
Is
that
a
correct
assumption?
Yes,
if
you
wouldn't
mind
joining
us
at
the.
K
A
L
Commissioner,
thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
of
the
committee
I'm
joined
today
by
Jennifer
D,
cube
Ellis,
who
is
our
deputy
County
Administrator,
who
covers
Health
and
Human
Services.
She
supervises
david
hewitt,
who
was
here
at
the
last
meeting
where
this
was
discussed,
and
one
of
the
committee's
he
is
our
kind
of
he's.
The
coordinator
of
our
office
to
end
homelessness
and
jennifer
decided
he
needed
a
day
off
because
he's
been
working
seven
days
a
week
for
a
while
in
this
first
and
foremost,
what's
going
on
is
a
human
tragedy.
L
That's
really
decades
in
the
making.
I
don't
think
we
need
to
go
into
the
details
of
that.
It's
now
very
visible.
It's
also
a
systemic.
It
shows
a
where
our
systems
are
falling
short
of
what
needs
to
be
done,
and
that's
really
what
we
need
to
be
addressing
here.
People
in
every
tent
have
a
different
story,
a
very
personal
story.
That's
going
to
require
a
very,
very
individual
response
and
we're
trying
to
what
we're
trying
to
do
collectively.
L
Here,
the
city,
the
county,
the
nonprofits,
the
community,
is
to
try
to
find
a
response
that
that
that
works
for
those
for
those
individuals
and
we're
trying
to
make
adjustments
as
necessary
in
our
programming.
Some
are
possible,
some
or
not,
but
that's
the
exercise.
We're
involved
in
here.
We've
done
this
hand-in-hand
with
the
city
from
from
day
one
with
the
city
as
the
lead
as
the
public
health
agency,
the
Public
Health
Authority
in
the
city
of
Minneapolis,
as
I
understand
it
and
Jennifer
can
provide
details.
L
Any
requests
that
have
been
made
of
the
county
to
date
have
been
resolved
and
she
can
again
provide
details
on
that
and
they've
been
have
we've
been
moving
forward.
Hand-In-Hand,
I
was
in
a
meeting
with
the
governor
with
Dan
Callison
and
the
mayor
just
two
nights
ago.
We
were
pleased
that,
for
example,
the
state
is
going
to
give
us
a
waiver
on
some
grh
housing
operating
money
to
allow
for
12
new
units
of
housing,
low
barrier
housing
to
be
created
with
with
American
Indian.
Oh
I
see
that's
a
step
forward.
L
That's
going
to
address
part
of
the
population
that
is
at
the
camp
as
we
now
move
into
what
I
consider
to
be
phase
two,
which
is
to
try
to
find
as
many
placements
as
possible
for
people
we've
been
trying
that
we've
been
doing.
That
and
Jennifer
can
document
that
what's
what's
happened
today,
but
we
there
are
additional
placements
that
can
and
should
be
made
of
chemical
health,
mental
health
in
some
shelters
and
some
in
in
housing
and
there's
a
discussion
today
as
I
understand
it
of
a
temporary
navigation.
L
Mental
health
with
it
within
the
community
I
think
it's
essential
that
you
move
forward
on
on
picking
a
site
today,
I
have
suggested
in
a
in
a
letter
signed
by
the
mud
group
that
the
roof
depot
a
parking
lot
is.
That
would
be
the
a
convenient
site.
That's
going
to
be
up
to
you
folks
to
decide,
but
we
need
a
site
chosen
to
move
forward
on
this
navigation
center,
which
is
a
transitional,
a
transitional
facility.
It's
not
they!
L
A
You
Commissioner,
McLaughlin
and
I
do
want
to
say
that
we
appreciate
the
partnership
and
attention
that
the
county
has
been
giving
to
this
issue
and
look
forward
to
continuing
that
partnership.
To
try
to
do
the
best
we
can
for
this
community
and
and
and
all
of
the
homeless,
people
that
are
in
our
city.
M
Thank
You
Commissioner
McLaughlin
and
councilmembers
Jennifer
de
bellas,
deputy
county
administrator
at
Hennepin,
County
responsible
for
Health
and
Human
Services
I'll
apologize
in
advance,
I'm
dealing
with
a
head
cold,
so
I
don't
have
a
huge
voice
today,
but
did
want
to
speak
to
the
concerns
we've
been
hearing
about
is
Hennepin
County
at
the
table
and
in
partnership,
and
we
certainly
are.
We
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
talk
to
the
council
today
on
this.
M
We
are
on
daily
phone
calls
with
the
state
and
with
city
and
with
our
community
partners,
and
we
are
committed
to
continuing
those
efforts.
We,
what
has
been
very
impressive
about
the
response,
has
been
the
community
leadership
that
we
have
all
seen
the
community
helping
Drive.
What
are
they
need
when
do
they
need
it
what's
getting
in
their
way
and
our
government
response
at
the
city,
the
county
and
the
state
level
has
been.
How
do
we
remove
barriers?
M
How
do
we
get
everybody
in
the
best
possible
place
based
on,
as
commissioner
McLaughlin
mentioned,
their
individual
needs?
At
the
moment,
the
county
response
has
been
extensive.
We
have
our
shelter
access
team
engaged,
we
have
our
housing
supports
and
in
Hennepin
County
a
lot
of
those
housing
supports
are
focused
on
vulnerable
populations,
so
those
most
in
need
of
supports
to
maintain
or
engage
in
housing.
Our
mental
health
teams,
our
chemical
health
teams,
our
child
welfare
system,
making
sure
kids
are
in
school,
are
healthy,
are
well
and
those
families
have
a
pathway
to
some
housing
stability.
M
Our
health
care
for
the
homeless
team
is
on
site
on
a
daily
basis
and
providing
the
work
that
they
generally
do
throughout
the
community,
making
sure
we
have
a
focused
effort
at
the
encampment
and
then
our
Public
Health
Department
is
also
engaged
in
support
of
the
public
health
department.
That's
operated
under
Minneapolis.
Our
income
assistance
is
working
with
folks
on
emergency
assistance
or
applying
for
benefits
where
necessary,
in
order
to
again
give
people
a
pathway
to
stable
housing
and
to
stability
in
their
lives.
M
We
will
continue
to
stay
in
partnership
with
the
city
staff
and
and,
most
importantly,
with
the
community
and
community
providers
that
have
been
so
instrumental
in
driving
the
efforts.
This
is
a
lot
less
about
government
and
it
is
a
lot
more
about
what
the
community
needs
in
our
community
providers
have
stepped
up
in
all
sorts
of
ways
and
that's
everything
from
the
FQHCs
that
are
responding
daily
on-site
to
the
shelter
access
and
outreach
teams
that
have
as
well
as
commissioner
McLachlan
mentioned.
M
We
are
seeing
results,
I'm
seeing
daily
reports
on
people
accepting
shelter,
removing
barriers
to
shelter
on
a
short-term
basis,
knowing
that
those
aren't
always
long-term
solutions.
We
heard
early
on
from
lots
of
families
that
one
of
the
barriers
were
that,
culturally,
there
were
multiple
family
members
that
didn't
fit
into
our
nice
neat
packaging
of
shelter
in
Hennepin,
County,
and
so
we've
continued
to
listen
and
adapt
our
response
as
a
result
of
what
the
community
is
needing.
M
So
we
get
daily
reports
that
says
people
have
a
plan
and
that's
our
ultimate
goal
is
to
work
alongside
individuals
and
families
to
say
what
is
important
to
you.
What
can
we
offer
and
how
do
we
get
you
on
a
different
path
and
develop
those
plans
in
partnership
with
community,
in
order
to
enact
a
pathway
for
every
individual?
At
this
encampment
short
term?
M
At
this
point,
how
do
we
do
some
low
barrier
housing
and
then
how
do
we
also
increase
the
supports
when
folks
do
get
into
recovery
and
need
some
additional
supports
in
the
community
to
continue
to
support
that
recovery
back
in
our
neighborhoods?
So
we
are
looking
at
all
of
those
we
are
looking
at.
How
do
we
pull
some
levers
that
we
have
at
the
county
that
we
have
at
the
state
differently
in
order
to
better
meet
the
needs,
and
we
will
continue
to
stand
in
partnership.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
as
the
Cabela's
really
appreciate
that
update
it,
helps
us
as
a
body
to
make
the
decisions
that
we
need
to
make,
knowing
that
we
have
partnership
with
the
county
and
hopefully
the
state
as
well,
because
this
is
an
issue
that
impacts
our
entire
community
and-
and
we
all
have
to
stand
up
to
to
address
these
issues.
So
I
really
appreciate
your
your
report.
L
Closing
I
just
say:
keep
an
eye
on
the
long
term
here
at
the
navigation.
Center
is
a
transitional
effort
that
we're
going
to
need.
The
long
term
is
really
really
the
key
in
my
mind,
to
resolving
these
problems
to
getting
at
the
root
causes
that
have
been
in
place
for
a
long
long
time
and
one
of
the
places
to
go
for
that
resources
on
that
is
healthcare
money.
L
That's
all
that
the
big
pile
of
money,
sure
and
I
think
we
need
to
find
ways
to
mobilize
Medicaid
funding
for
the
those
who
are
eligible
to
try
to
provide
a
full
range
of
assistance,
whether
it
be
medical,
health,
mental
health,
chemical
health,
clinical
health,
but
also
housing,
housing
and
then,
ultimately,
there's
got
to
be
a
job
strategy
for
many
of
the
individuals
too.
So
that's
where
I
think
we
need
to
go.
A
No,
you
know
you're
right
on
point,
commissioner
McLaughlin.
It
has
to
be
a
long-term
strategy
that
has
to
be
inclusive
again,
as
I
mentioned
earlier
of
all
of
the
people
in
our
community,
and
certainly
this
has
been
a
very
emotional
visual
display
of
a
really
deeply
entrenched
problem
in
our
community
and
and
bringing
attention
to
it,
and
so
I
see
this
navigation.
I
personally
see
this
navigation
Center
as
an
initial
step
and
an
opportunity
for
us
to
begin
to
work
on
the
long
long
term
solution.
A
So
thank
you
very
much,
you're
rich,
so
I
do
want
to
give
an
opportunity
for
others
in
the
audience
that
may
be
willing
to
or
interested
in
speaking
to
this
body.
I
do
want
to
again
emphasize.
This
is
not.
This
was
not
noticed
as
a
public
hearing,
but
we
are
going
to
open
it
up
for
15
minutes
of
public
discussion,
two
minutes
for
each
speaker
and
if
you
are
interested
in
and
want
to
speak,
please
approach
the
podium
and
then
provide
your
name
and
address
to
the
clerk.
After
your
two
minutes
of
comments.
N
Wouldn't
cry
so
I'm
going
to
cry
through
this.
Just
bear
with
me.
I
want
to
say
good
afternoon
to
each
of
you
and
thank
you
for
having
this
discussion
today.
As
many
of
you
may
know,
my
son
Wade
died
at
the
encampment
August
15th.
He
was
in
a
coma
for
three
weeks
at
Hennepin,
County
Medical
Center.
We
took
him
off
of
life,
support
September
10th
and
he
made
his
transition.
N
N
What
most
of
you
know
about
me
is
that
I've
worked
on
food
allergies
because
of
my
son,
and
that's
how
we
all
know
me,
but
what
you
don't
know
is
that,
prior
to
Waites,
birth
I
was
a
director
of
a
women's
treatment.
Center
I
wrote
state
and
city
policy
for
recovering
homes
and
life
saying,
and
things
like
that.
What
you
may
not
also
know
is
that
I'm
thirty
years
sober,
but
yet
my
child,
my
child,
at
20
years
old,
died
of
a
drug
overdose.
N
So
I
want
to
leave
you
with
a
few
words
that
I'd
like
you
to
add
to
this
conversation.
One
of
them
is
we.
This
is
not
them
or
those
Adham
folk
over
there.
It's
us.
The
second
word
is
safety.
We
need
a
place
that
offers
shelter
for
the
coming
winter.
So
yes,
shelter
and
housing
is
important,
but
I
really
need
you
all
to
talk
about
ending
and
dealing
with
the
disease
of
addiction.
Harm
reduction
strategy
saves
lives.
No
one
has
to
die
because
of
a
stigma
or
fear.
We
have
no
more
time
to
waste.
N
To
deaths
at
the
encampment
is
far
too
many.
Let
it
be
no
more
so.
I
am
advocating
that,
along
with
the
navigation
system,
I'd
like
to
see
a
safe
injection
site
can
be
a
pilot
project
ran
by
the
University
of
Minnesota
or
any
other
ancient
entity,
but
one
of
the
things
that
could
have
prevented
Wade's
death
is
a
supervised
injection
site,
knowing
that
he
was
an
IV
drug
user
at
that
camp.
The
third
word
is
epidemic.
This
is
an
epidemic.
N
N
Addiction
is
a
disease
period,
yet
in
the
state
of
Minnesota,
which
is
known
for
recovery
and
known
for
treatment,
we
do
not
have
treatment
facilities
for
black
and
brown,
queer
youth
of
color
and
our
treatment
system,
and
my
son
was
queer.
I'm,
encouraging
the
council
to
fund
a
feasibility
study
to
address
these
gaps,
I'm
equally
committed
to
making
sure
that
black
Brown
lbgtq
iead
youth
get
inpatient
treatment,
stays
and
that
they
are
served
by
black
and
brown
treatment
professionals.
N
The
fifth
phrase
I
want
to
leave
you
with
this
brain
disorder.
Addiction
is
a
chronic
but
treatable
medical
condition
involving
changes
in
the
brain.
We
have
to
have
people
at
the
table
who
understand
the
impact
that
addiction
has
on
the
brain.
The
sixth
is
solutions.
I
encourage
you
to
look
at
the
root
of
these
issues
and
to
get
to
the
solutions.
Homelessness
is
an
unfortunate
symptom
of
so
many
other
things
that
have
happened.
Wade
had
two
homes,
one
in
Chicago,
one
in
Minneapolis.
N
The
dominant
framework
in
addiction,
science
today
is
biopsychosocial
framework
which
recognizes
that
there's
a
complex
interaction
between
biology,
behavior
and
environment,
so
it
is
not
lost
on
me
that
what
I'm
proposing
has
impacts
on
the
social
and
environmental
systems
that
we
live
in
and
in
our
communities.
So
the
solution
has
to
address
all
of
those
we
have
to
begin
with
having
an
accessible
treatment
facility
in
the
city
of
Minneapolis
in
the
county
of
Hennepin,
we
need
substance,
abuse
treatment
and,
lastly,
the
word
is
care.
N
The
most
caring
thing
that
we
can
do
is
move
people
out
of
the
cold
into
safe
shelter.
Second,
most
caring
thing
we
can
do
is
offer
them
support
to
manage
the
issues
that
they
face
in
closing.
I
just
want
you
to
know
that
I'm
not
standing
here,
because
I'm,
strong
or
invincible.
My
heart
is
broken
I'm
standing
here,
because
I
believe.
N
A
Thank
you.
Mr.
Edmund
and
I
know
that
I
can
speak
on
behalf
of
my
colleagues
and
saying
that
we
express
our
deep,
deep
condolence
to
you
and
your
family
and
to
the
other
families
that
has
has
lost
their
loved
one
in
this
struggle
to
land
to
all
the
families
that
are
struggling
at
this
encampment,
and
so
thank
you
so
much
for
your
very,
very
moving
testimony
and
and
suggestions
for
for
future
improvement.
A
O
Kg
narco
kg
kg
mm-hmm
Cochise
vice
president
natives
against
heroin
I
apologize
James
was
unable
to
be
here
today,
but
he
does
have
a
statement
that
he
would
like
me
to
read
so
I'm
gonna
do
that
I'm,
chairman
and
council.
We
as
not
need
you
need
you
to
hear
the
message
from
our
community
that
we
need
the
roof
depot.
It's
already
getting
cold
and
this
property
is
in
our
community.
So
this
is
the
golden
ticket
for
our
relatives
at
the
wall.
It
has
a
building
water
fence.
Are
there
now?
O
P
Name
is
Greg
Frandsen,
also
with
natives
against
heroin,
one
of
the
things
that
I
want
to.
Let
you
know
as
far
as
that
goes,
we
do
do
outreach
work
every
day
as
natives
against
heroin.
We
do
it.
We
can,
with
the
way
that
things
are
today.
We
make
sure
that
people
have
narcan.
We
make
sure
that
they
have
clean
needles.
We
also
try
to
get
people
into
treatment.
That's
what
I
do
on
a
daily
basis
is
work
on
getting
people
in
a
treatment
where
the
problem
comes
in
is
getting
people
in
the
treatment.
P
Is
you
got
a
week
after
they
do
the
rule
25
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
two
people
don't
want
to
go
no
more.
It
needs
to
be
where
something
can
change
where
you
can
have
it
to
where
right
that
day,
if
they're
doing
a
rule
25,
they
should
be
okay
to
get
into
treatment.
That's
where
the
problem
comes
in,
because
it's
time
and
time
again
we
have
had
this
problem
come
up
and
the
only
place
that's
really
suitable,
and
that
would
work
for
us
would
be
like
the
Home
Depot
it's
fenced
in.
P
We
can
control
who
comes
in
and
out
of
there
where
we
are
right
now
we
cannot
control
it.
We
have
somebody
overdosing
on
a
daily
basis,
almost
where
we
have
to
shoot
them
with
narcan,
because
the
drug
dealers
can
walk
up
to
that
pit.
We
can't
do
that
anywhere
else.
If
we
were
fenced
in
there's
no
way
that
they
could
get
there,
we
would
make
sure
that
the
only
people
get
to
our
residence.
P
So
please
consider
that
as
a
site
that
would
be
ideal
and
work.
I
know
it's
not
a
long-term
goal,
but
the
governor
promised
us
a
hundred
and
twenty
people
would
be
buried
within
the
next
ten
days.
He
hasn't
done
air.
The
mayor
promised
that
they
haven't
told
us
anything.
There's
not
a
hundred
and
twenty
people
that
have
beds.
P
Q
Yep
new
council,
my
name,
is
John
Thompson
I
live
in
the
state
of
Minnesota.
Be
brief,
I'll
be
very
brief.
This
morning,
including
including
this
morning,
when
I
open
my
eyes
this
morning
that
every
other
day
that
I
woke
up
I
woke
up
a
black
man,
so
I'm
gonna
speak
for
my
people
right
so
I
come
here
humbly
asking
you
guys
to
hear
me
understand
that
the
encampment
is
full
of
our
native
lives.
I
understand
that
the
camp
is
full
of,
but
when
I
walked
over
there
I
saw
black
people
at
that.
Q
Encampment
me
and
brother
Jonathan
was
over
there
just
the
other
day,
and
there
was
a
black
man.
Told
me,
brother,
don't
put
me
on
camera,
because
I
got
a
job
and
the
people
at
my
job
will
see
me
on
your
camera
and
then
they'll
talk
about
me
because
I'm
homeless,
all
right.
There
is
a
drug
epidemic
in
a
Native
community,
but
there's
a
drug
epidemic
in
the
african-american
community.
I,
don't
want
you
to
forget
my
people,
I
heard
him
say
that
he
was
gonna
come
up
with
ten
houses
with
the
Indian
or
whatever
court.
Q
Listen
you're.
Gonna!
Do
people
a
bit
suffering
for
very
long
time,
a
very
long
time
and
I,
don't
know
nothing
but
black
I
wake
up
every
morning
the
black
man,
the
first
thing
I
do
is
plant
my
feet
on
stolen
native
land,
so
I
understand
the
natives
fight,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
my
people
been
something
the
same.
Fighting
y'all
did
nothing
about
it,
but
now
it's
trying
out
we're
gonna
help.
No,
no!
No!
No!
No!
Q
So
don't
try
to
figure
this
out,
but
just
one
demographic
of
people,
because
another
people
are
my
people
too,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
my
people
have
been
suffering
in
action
y'all
for
some
of
the
same
thing
for
years
and
y'all
never
came
up
as
a
body
to
look
out
for
my
people.
I,
don't
know
nothing
on
this
earth.
Q
Better
than
being
a
black
man
and
black
people
are
beautiful,
so
I
speak
for
my
people
when
I
tell
you
don't
forget
us
like
y'all,
always
do
don't
forget
black
men
and
black
women
and
black
families
like
y'all,
always
do
and
try
to
mix
this
up
to
be
that
native
thing,
because
it's
black
bodies
out
there
in
that
tent
camp
in
intensity
also
and
I
want
y'all.
Remember
that
remember.
My
people
will
remember
my
face.
Q
Cuz
I'll
be
back
when
you
go
to
downtown
Minneapolis
over
there
by
the
Salvation
Army,
there's
a
whole
lot
of
black
people
that
don't
have
no
Howard,
no
hell,
no,
where
to
go,
but
they
got
drugs
to
get.
There
are
no
fool,
but
they'd
rather
spend
their
money
than
the
money
on
drugs.
There's
so
many
barriers
in
front
of
us
brother
I'm
talking
about
it
I'm
respect
to
two
minutes.
But
a
brother
just
told
me
that
the
landlord
told
him
that
his
he
got
a
620
credit.
Q
Q
They
tell
me
the
same
thing
if
your
credit,
if
my
credit
was
620,
I,
won't
be
looking
for
an
apartment
I'll
be
trying
to
buy
a
house,
so
I
want
y'all
to
keep
black
folks
in
mind
when
you're,
making
your
decision
and
make
it
a
comprehensive
decision
to
end
homelessness
for
everybody,
because
black
people
suffer
from
the
same
thing
that
native
people
suffer
from
love
y'all.
Thank
you.
A
R
A
R
Key
I
come
here
in
representation
of
Aurora
charter
school
next
to
one
of
the
sites
that
is
proposed,
2600
Minnehaha,
2600,
Minnehaha
Avenue
and,
like
the
others
who
spoke
it,
it
sounds
like
it
might
be,
a
pattern
we
found
out
about
this
site
being
a
proposed
site
on
Monday,
and
there
hadn't
been
any
engagement
with
me
until
that
morning
about
9:30
and
I.
Do
have
some
concerns
about
that,
because
we
educate
411
children
between
the
ages
of
3
and
14
daily
and
I.
R
Think
they're
already
exposed
to
difficult
lives,
some
of
them
and
have
trauma
and
stress
and
I
I
can't
support,
2600,
Minnehaha
being
a
location
where
there's
going
to
be
known,
drug
use
and
that
sort
of
behaviors
going
on
so
close
to
a
school
yard
where
kids
play
at
recess
and
I
am
in
favor
of
the
roof
depot
site
and
I
just
want
to
express
that
and
think
about
compassion
for
the
kids,
we're
playing
at
recess
and
may
be
exposed
to
behaviors.
That
could
cause
more
trauma
so.
S
Hello,
my
name
is
Meredith
Folger
I
live
in
Maple,
Grove
Minnesota,
but
I
teach
and
I'm
also
an
administrator
at
Aurora
charter
school.
My
concern
is
also
for
the
2600
location
that
is
adjacent
to
our
property.
Our
children
play
right
out
back
and
the
only
thing
separating
them
from
that
area
that's
been
proposed
and
is
heavily
being
sought
out,
is
a
chain-link
fence.
I
prepared
a
letter
that
I
would
like
to
briefly
read,
but
I
do
want
to
state
that
I
am
no
stranger
to
addiction
and
recovery.
S
S
S
Homelessness
has
been
an
ongoing
issue
in
Minneapolis,
which
continues
to
be
ignored
and
dealt
with
once
minimal
action
is
taken,
such
as
locking
skyway
doors
and
asking
individuals
to
move
along.
The
reality
of
homelessness
is
now
receiving
more
attention
because
it
is
visible
for
a
population
who
are
treated
as
invisible.
S
This
is
not
a
discussion
about
which
of
the
two
marginalized
populations,
the
homeless
and
Latino
students
at
Aurora
matters
more
or
african-americans
individuals
or
any
individual,
but
instead
a
distraction
from
the
real
issue.
Where
are
our
pillars
of
the
community
and
businesses
who
have
revenue
to
donate,
to
political
campaigns,
but
not
to
help
set
up
sustainable
systems
to
help
the
complex
needs
of
our
fellow
residents
who
happen
to
be
homeless?
If
there
is
drug
use
happening,
we
need
to
establish
treatment,
plants
and
rehabilitation
programs,
not
supply
clean
syringes
and
make
the
environment
more
sterile.
S
That
is
simply
a
way
of
avoiding
the
inevitable
reality
that
they
will
die
from
their
condition
if
the
homeless
are
in
need
of
mental
health
services.
As
part
of
a
civilized
an
industrial
nation,
we
need
to
provide
support
for
those
individuals,
individuals
who
are
homeless.
For
any
variety
of
reasons
need
help
establishing
sustainable
living
conditions,
health
and
recovery
services
and
people
to
help
them
do
that.
Our
students
are
of
paramount
importance,
just
as
any
human
beings
life
is
I
feel
we
need
to
advocate
for
individualized
comprehensive
emergency
plans
for
every
individual
experiencing
homelessness.
S
T
Esteemed
members
of
the
Minneapolis
City
Council,
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
speak.
My
name
is
James
boric
I'm,
a
teacher
in
my
seventh
year
at
Lincoln,
International,
high
school
and
though
I'm
not
speaking
officially
in
this
capacity
today.
I
also
serve
as
the
chair
of
its
board
of
directors
I'm
here
today
to
urge
you
to
decide
on
an
alternative
sight
to
the
proposed
emergency
shelters
at
2,600,
Minnehaha
Avenue
as
someone
who's
devoted
considerable
time
and
effort
to
serving
the
needs
of
culturally
and
linguistically
diverse
students.
T
I
want
to
applaud
the
efforts
of
the
city
and
the
American
Indian
community
to
resolve
the
unacceptable
levels
of
homelessness
that
befall
the
community
in
Minneapolis.
My
heart
goes
out
to
the
vulnerable
residents
at
the
wall
of
forgotten.
Natives
I
especially,
would
like
to
recognize
and
appreciate
the
work
of
the
metropolitan
urban
Indian
directors
and
natives
against
heroin
in
their
monumental
task
of
providing
a
level
of
safety
and
stability
to
the
camp.
All
organizations
work
to
secure
a
more
permanent
solution.
T
However,
I
humbly
ask
that
this
committee
also
weigh
the
needs
of
the
students
at
Lincoln
and
Aurora
charter
school.
The
proposed
location
at
2600
Minnehaha
is
within
a
hundred
feet
of
both
schools.
Despite
the
best
efforts
of
the
organizations
working
with
the
residents
at
the
wall.
It
remains
a
high-risk
environment,
as
can
be
evidenced
by
the
two
deaths
that
have
occurred
there
in
the
last
month.
T
Is
my
fervent
belief
that
placing
emergency
shelters
at
this
site
would
expose
our
students
to
legitimate
dangers.
Both
physical
and
mental.
Many
of
the
refugees
at
our
school
suffer
from
PTSD
related
to
their
experience
at
camps.
I
worry
that
building
the
shelters
across
the
street
could
trigger
and
retama
retraumatization
aliy
building
emergency
shelters
may
have
a
negative
impact
on
our
enrollment.
As
I
mentioned,
many
of
our
students
and
their
families
are
refugees.
T
Creating
these
emergency
structures
at
2600
Minnehaha
would
do
little
to
enhance
our
reputation
as
a
safe
school.
On
the
contrary,
it
could
be
seen
as
a
reason
to
enroll
students
elsewhere
in
summation
on
behalf
of
the
well-being
of
the
children
at
Lincoln
and
Aurora
I.
Ask
that
you
vote
to
build
the
emergency
shelters
at
the
former
roof
depot
property
or
another
viable
site.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
U
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
patina
Park
I'm
in
kachou
Lakota,
my
family
comes
from
both
Cheyenne
River
and
Standing
Rock
and
I
greet
madam
chair,
madam
president,
and
then
whole
council
with
an
open
heart
and
a
good
mind
and
I'm
grateful
for
this
opportunity
to
speak
I'm
representing
the
metropolitan
urban
Indian
directors.
In
my
current
role,
I
am
the
chair
and
I
was
identified
in
a
meeting.
I
wasn't
at
as
the
point
person
for
the
community,
which
is
a
role
I
have
taken
on
our
letter.
U
When
is
a
reasonable
time
to
put
all
the
infrastructure
and
space
for
this
temporary
transitional
winter
camp
essentially
that'll
give
us
time
to
address
the
needs
of
the
individuals.
It
will
give
us
time
to
come
up
with
alternatives
that
will
have
long-term
housing
effects
in
the
community
that
are
self
determinant
that
are
no
barrier
and
low
barrier
housing
and
will
be
accessible
for
all
people,
because
I
also
step
here
in
front
of
you
as
your
relative
Mitaka
Wasson.
U
You
are
all
my
relatives,
so
I
ask
you,
as
my
relatives,
that
you
think
outside
of
historic
responses
to
this
issue,
that
you
think
outside
the
pressures
of
people
who
don't
understand
why
that
community
is
their
community.
That
is
not
just
native
because
we're
all
native
somewhere
aren't
we,
but
that
we
look
at
them
as
the
humans
they
are.
These
are
people
and
I
hope
that
whatever
response
is
brought
forward,
hold
that
humanity
first
and
foremost,
so
I
am
grateful
for
your
time,
we'll
play
Tonka.
Thank
you.
So
much
thank.
V
Hello
I
would,
like
my
name,
is
Ana
Soria
I
am
both
a
member
of
the
staff
at
the
school
adjacent
to
the
lock
that
is
being
proposed,
as
he
the
best
viable
option
for
the
for
the
encampment.
Sorry
I'm
a
little
bit
nervous.
I
am
here
too
for
you
today,
as
a
parent
in
a
voice
for
my
child,
because
my
child
is
in
school
and
he
is
not
able
to
be
here.
V
There
are
a
lot
of
concerns
just
recently
finding
out
about
about
this
proposal
about
having
them
so
close
to
the
school.
The
campus
so
close
to
school.
I
have
not
even
had
enough
time
to
digest
the
news.
The
proposal
I
I
went
in
ahead
and
and
and
did
some
you
know,
try
to
do
some
research
all
second
hand.
Third,
having
information
that
I
am
receiving
as
a
parent
and
I
am
concerned
for
both
sides.
V
V
It
is
my
job
to
educate
them
on
things
that
happen
and
on
events
that
really
affect
those
around
us
in
our
community.
But
I
ask
you
please
as
well
to
consider
a
more
sustainable
option
such
as
the
roof
office,
the
roof
depot
for
for
them.
That
would
not
leave
open
barriers
for
just
anyone
to
walk
by.
Thank
you
thank.
W
W
There
are
children
that
are
at
the
encampment
and
aren't
our
children
just
as
important
I
support
the
roof
depot
as
a
time-limited
solution.
I
also
want
to
ask
for
a
joint
coalition
of
city,
county
state,
tribal
governments,
corporations
and
churches
and
foundations
to
come
up
together
with
a
long-term
solution
that
deals
with
not
only
the
homeless
situation,
but
all
the
things
that
lead
to
that
substance:
abuse
mental
health,
education.
W
W
That
measures
the
social
ills
in
this
country,
so
I
just
want
to
say
you
know,
like
don't
you
know.
The
roof
depot
is
a
good
temporary
solution,
but
it
is
not
the
long-term
solution.
There
needs
to
be
an
intermediate
goal.
It
needs
to
be
a
long-term
goal
and
that
will
take
the
work
of
everybody.
Now
before
I
came
over
here.
W
X
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
I'm
am
indatus.
First
of
all,
thank
you
for
your
continued
service
to
help
the
residents
of
the
wall
of
Forgotten
natives.
It
is
imperative
that
the
people
living
there
receive
the
adequate
housing
and
resources
that
they
need
and
deserve
I'm
a
teacher
at
a
rural
charter
school
where
I
have
worked
for
15
years.
I
live
in
Ward
10,
where
I
have
lived
for
12
years.
X
Sadly,
the
students
of
Aurora
charter
school
currently
have
no
playground.
Their
play
area
is
a
small
parking
lot
behind
our
school
there.
They
run
and
jump
and
skip
on
the
hard
pavement
they
wander
over
to
the
metal
fence,
separating
our
parking
lot
and
the
vacant
lot
at
2600,
Minnehaha
Avenue
by
this
fence.
The
students
gaze
at
the
grass
there
with
longing
imagining
swings
and
slides
and
soccer
fields.
X
Although
I
can
sympathize
with
and
respect
the
needs
of
our
neighbors
at
the
wall,
I
cannot
support
relocating
it
or
moving
it
to
the
vacant.
Lot
adjacent
to
Aurora
and
I
urge
you
to
propose
another
option,
such
as
the
the
depot
for
all
of
the
reasons
that
have
been
stated
by
the
speakers
before
me.
X
What
I
am
most
concerned
about
is
the
drug
use
that
we
know
will
continue
to
happen
because
of
addictions
and
because
of
the
problems,
the
social
ills
that
are
happening
within
the
community
and
honestly,
as
I
stand
before
you
I'm
conflicted,
because
I
feel
like
saying
the
statement.
I
am
I'm
making
this
about
like.
Oh,
we
don't
want
them
there.
It's
not
that
I,
don't
want
anybody
to
think.
Oh,
we
don't
want
these
people
next
to
us,
that's
not
it
at
all.
We
I
believe
that
the
people
at
encampment
need
housing.
X
Y
Name
is
Jonathan
Mason
I
also
live
in
Minnesota
I'm
gonna
make
it
quick.
I
was
up
at
the
encampment
with
my
brother
John
and
we
talked
to
James
cross
and
a
lot
of
Native
Americans
are
out
there
and
they're
they're
fighting
and
they
have
a
lot
of
people
on
the
behalf
of
them.
But,
like
my
brother
John
said
the
black
community
we've
been
dealing
with
this
over
North
next
to
our
schools.
Y
Next
to
the
houses
all
day
every
day,
and
so
I
went
to
the
encampment
I'm
talking
to
brothers,
hanging
high,
he's
sober
or
he's
sober.
He
has
a
baby
newborn
baby.
They
sleep
at
Walmart
in
the
bathroom
okay
there
he
said
brother
Jonathan,
he's
texting.
He's
writing
me
every
day.
Can
you
come
back
down
here?
Can
you
come
back
down
here?
Please
talk
to
some
people
talk
to
people
I'm
out
here,
speaking
for
I'm
native
black
and
white
I'm
speaking
for
everybody
out
there
we
know
there's
a
drug
addiction.
Y
We
know
that
there's
a
epidemic
going
on.
We
need
to
honestly
the
st.
Anthony
just
had
that
debacle
with
the
land.
Let's
get
everybody
over
there,
ASAP
get
the
chain-link
fence
from
tip
Thor
Construction
get
them
over
there
chain
it
up.
Let
my
brothers
over
here
run
the
security
by
themselves.
Get
their
walkie-talkies
get
everything
that
they
need.
We
need
to
have
emergency
assistance
for
the
people
that
are
out
there.
The
winter
is
coming
there.
I
know
people
are
upset
about
the
schools,
but
there's
babies
inside
of
those
tents.
That's.
Y
Are
watching
overdoses
and
they're
watching
people
come
up
that
have
drug
addictions
and
I
went
out
there,
and
several
people
told
me
bro,
don't
give
me
on
camera
I'm
like
for
what
what's
going
on?
I
got
a
warrant
now,
so
the
now
there's
people
in
there
that
got
their
pedophiles
there's
people
that
are
ready
to
do
whatever
to
these
people
and
you're,
not
you.
People
are
moving
so
slowly.
Eight
agenda
items
gone
in
40
45
seconds,
but
we
can't
figure
this
out.
We
got
to
hurry
up
and
get
this
going.
Y
So
if
it's
I
talked
to
Minneapolis
Public
Schools,
they
said
that
the
women
and
children
all
of
them
they
can
come
in
to
Willard.
So
if
you
guys
aren't
tapping
at
graph,
I
wouldn't
suggest
talking
to
Minneapolis
Public
Schools
at
night
time
get
the
kids
all
light
rail
ticket.
If
you
did
it
for
the
people
for
the
superball.
This
is
what
I
don't
understand.
Y
You
pushed
all
the
homeless
out
into
all
these
other
communities
and
then
for
the
Super
Bowl
to
come,
and
then
now
they're
that
they're
all
coming
back
now,
what's
going
on
when
this
happened.
This
has
been
going
on,
you
just
see
in
a
rush
of
it,
coming
back
and
now
they're
all
posted
up
on
Hiawatha,
and
now
it's
a
big
concern
that
that
is
little
earth
right
over
there
and
there's
a
lot
of
Native
Americans
from
all
tribes
I'm
from
several
different
tribes,
myself,
I'm
1/16,
a
native
but
I'm,
also
a
descendant
of
slaves.
Y
So
I
have
to
understand
that
there's
tons
of
black
people
out
here
that
are
homeless.
More
than
5-hundred
on
the
north
side,
walking
around
sleeping
in
Walmart's
sleeping,
getting
kicked
out
of
Cub
Foods
I
know
what's
going
on,
so
we
have
to
figure
it
out.
I
would
love
to
talk
to
Jacob
Frye,
ed
Graf,
a
lot
of
these
leaders.
They
have.
We
have
vacant
properties
as
well.
These
vacant
properties
need
to
be
built.
Y
If
thora
construction
can
do
it
on
pen
in
Plymouth,
they
can
do
it
for
elsewhere,
give
the
tax
incentives
and
breaks
for
these
people.
We
have
to
move
quicker,
there's
babies
and
stuff,
seeing
things
that
they
don't
want
to.
I
know
the
school
is
right:
there
get
the
chain-link
fence,
get
them
in
the
depot
ASAP,
and
then
we
have
to
have
stability
when
you're,
trying
to
work
forward
and
I'm
trying
to
build
housing
for
these
people.
Thank.
Z
AA
Come
before
you
guys
today,
my
government
name
is
Thomas
Anderson.
My
spare
name
is
Wabash
key
Muscadet
busy
Keith
McCloskey
Bayless,
the
members
and
the
relatives
from
Canada
come
all
the
way
down
the
other
day.
To
say
this,
our
relatives
need
to
go
and
they
need
a
healing
and
they
need
help,
and
we
can
do
those
things
in
a
way
that
we
do
them
and
we'll
bring
them
up
north
and
get
that
done.
But
we
you
guys
to
work
with
us
to
get
that
done.
AA
So
when
I
come
down
to
say,
hey,
we
got
a
Bible
place.
We
don't
need
the
tribal
police
up
and
white
or
trying
to
run
people
out
of
a
place
that
we
can
use
the
dudette
so
I
can
eat
you
guys
get
on
the
same
page
and
I.
Need
you
guys
to
get
ahold
of
the
government
here
and
I
need
to.
Let
them
know
that
ain't
no
state
certified
police
gonna
run
anyone
out
of
anywhere
anymore
ain't
happening,
and
this
ain't
just
about
one
direction.
It's
about
all
of
them.
So
we
got
issues.
AA
AA
And
then
we
can
move
forward.
It's
pretty
simple,
so
you
want
to
Bible
a
solution.
We
have
a
place
for
people
to
go,
but
we
can't
be
having
no
more
state
tribal
police
running
any
one
out
of
anywhere,
because
that's
not
okay,
because
they
are
certified
by
the
state.
They
have
no
authority
to
remove
anyone
from
the
reservation,
because
this
has
gone
federal
and
anyone
wants
to
continue
to
break
those
federal
laws,
those
treaty
laws
and
those
constitutional
laws.
You
will
be
ending
up
in
federal
prison
for
those
things,
I
don't
care.
AA
If
you
think
you
got
immunity
because
you're
a
state
official
or
not,
you
do
not.
We
have
been
respectful.
You
continue
to
do
the
things
you
do
and
do
not
help
all
of
our
people,
because
it
is
all
those
directions.
So
we're
done
we're
done,
asking
we're
telling
we
got
the
solutions.
Let
us
do
it.
Thank
you.
AB
Hi
good
afternoon,
council
members
I
appreciate
the
time
to
talk
with
you.
My
name
is
Anthony
stately
I'm,
the
CEO
of
the
Native
American
community,
clinic
and
I
am
my
clinic
and
my
staff
are
located
exactly
two
blocks
to
the
west
of
the
encampment
and
for
the
last
four
or
five
weeks
myself
and
my
staff
have
been
working
tirelessly
to
try
and
bring
medical
services
to
the
encampment,
including
harm
reductions.
Support
wound
care
a
number
of
other
things
in
that
encampment.
AB
I
remember
a
time
when
things
were
much
different
in
this
part
of
the
city
when
there,
when
the
American
Indian
community
in
Minneapolis,
south
Minneapolis
was
vibrant
and
thriving
and
when
it
was
doing
well,
when
I
was
a
young
child,
I
could
ride
my
bike
all
the
way
from
31st
to
Minnehaha.
In
the
middle
of
the
day,
I
could
go
down
to
P,
V,
Park
and
I.
Couldn't
I
didn't
have
to
worry
about
being
accosted,
I
didn't
have
to
worry
about
being
human
trafficked,
I
didn't
have
to
worry
about
running
into
drug
addicts.
AB
AB
We
have
people
dying
every
single
day
right,
not
just
in
that
encampment,
but
all
over
Minneapolis,
but
I'm.
Here
talking
to
you
about
the
issues
that
specifically
relate
to
the
people
that
I
am
in
charge
of
providing
that
I.
That
I
have
a
commitment
to
and
an
expectation
to
provide
services
to.
We
have
overdoses
rates
in
Minneapolis
that
are
6
to
7
times
higher
for
the
native
population
than
the
rest
of
the
state.
Right
it
doesn't
mean
we
have
more
opiate
addiction
happening.
It
means
that
we
have
less
services
available
to
us
right.
AB
So
what
I'm
asking
you
to
do
is
I'm
asking
you
to
think
very
carefully
and
thoughtfully
and
intentionally
about
the
decision
you're
about
to
make.
We
have
people
who
are
three
blocks
away,
who
can
for
all
kinds
of
reasons
and
I
and
when
I
sit
in
audiences
and
I
hear
people
talk
about
mental
health
issues,
and
this
and
this
I'm
a
psychologist
I,
understand
that
very
very
well.
AB
My
dad
was
a
schizophrenic
he
was
put
in
the
psych
ward
and
in
prison
eventually
for
kneeling
in
the
middle
of
Franklin
Avenue
in
Bloomington
and
praying
right,
I
know
it.
Mental
illness
really
really
well
personally
and
professionally
right,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
these
are
human
beings
who
need
and
who
need
our
help,
who
need
our
protection
and
who
need
our
support
and
they
won't
leave
that
Kampmann
for
all
kinds
of
other
reasons,
just
to
walk
across
the
street
for
services
at
the
community
oversee
health
care
center.
AB
They
have
a
difficulty
walking
into
the
native
american
community
clinic,
which
is
three
blocks
away.
Our
two
blocks
away.
They
have
difficulty
walking
five
blocks
away
to
the
Indian
Health
Board,
where
they
could
get
services,
because
they're
struggling
with
so
many
conditions
and
situations
that
are
directly
related
to
the
issue
of
being
homeless,
so
to
move
them
further
away
from
a
safety
net
of
services
that
are
immediately
helpful
to
them
is
really
challenging.
How
many
of
you
have
actually
gone
out
there
and
tried
to
walk
across
Hiawatha
Avenue?
AB
Have
you
ever
tried
to
walk
across
Hiawatha
Avenue,
which,
when
I
was
a
kid,
was
an
Avenue?
You
could
actually
ride
your
bike
down.
It's
now
a
highway
right.
Nobody
is
going
to
bank
it
to
the
American
Indian
corridor
from
there
to
get
support
and
services
that
they
rely
upon
every
single
day.
If
you
keep
it
on
this
side
of
Hiawatha
and
you
keep
it
closer
to
the
Native
American
community
support
services
that
are
available
for
them
in
South
Minneapolis
in
the
corridor.
We're
gonna
see
much
more
success
right.
AB
My
organization
I,
am
committed
as
its
leader
and
its
fiduciary
leader
and
responsible
I'm
gonna
figure
out
a
way
to
continue
to
provide
services,
so
no
matter
where
they
go.
If
I
have
to
buy
a
van
out
of
my
own
personal
fund,
I'll
do
it,
but
the
point
is:
is
that
it
doesn't
help
me
to
have
you
disburse
them
all
over
the
city.
I
won't
be
able
to
help
them.
AB
A
AC
Okay,
so
I'll
be
quick
and
brief.
I'm
margarita
Ortega
I
am
a
little
earth
resident.
I
was
born
and
raised
there.
If
I
wanted
to
give
you
a
full
picture
of
why
the
camp
is
at
Hiawatha,
it
is
at
Hiawatha
because
we
have
the
largest
urban
native
population.
There
we've
organized
together
as
a
community,
because
a
lot
of
us
even
that
do
have
homes
right
now
didn't
have
homes
before
we've
been
homeless.
AC
A
lot
of
our
population
knows
this
story
knows
this
experience
so
I
want
you
guys
to
understand
that
a
lot
of
the
people
that
work
within
Na
they've
already
been
addicted.
They've
already
are
in
recovery,
they've
already
been
homeless.
We
are
doing
this
out
of
our
own
experience.
Our
life
experience
to
help
people
that
are
going
through
the
same
things
we've
been
through.
That's
why
the
camps
there
and
that's?
Why
we're
there
around
the
clock?
24/7
we
don't
leave.
AC
We
no
one
leaves
that
camp,
not
not
one
Nam
member
believe
that
camp
until
another
nam
member
is
there
to
recover.
We
are
there
around
the
clock
to
make
sure
that
we
are
helping
every
single
person
there.
If
you
move
the
kak
over
to
26th
in
Minnehaha
I
want
you
to
understand
something.
Winter
is
harsh
here
in
Minnesota:
there's
no
buildings,
no
barriers
to
break
that
wind
and
our
wind
chills
can
get
to
35
below
it's
it's
dangerous
and
just
putting
up
buildings.
Ain't
gonna
going
is
not
going
to
help
it.
AC
Putting
up
a
fence
is
not
going
to
help
that
we
need
an
emergency
building
that
we
can
go
into
if
things
get
harsh
and
rough
Depot
is
the
only
one
with
that
emergency
building
that
we
have
babies
out
there.
We
have
pregnant
mother
out
there
that
is
going
to
give
birth
out
there
bring
back
her
baby
out
there.
I
need
you
to
understand
how
important
this
is.
This
isn't
about
money.
This
is
about
your
heart,
your
humanity.
AC
We
are
all
in
this
together
and
I.
We
need
your
help
to
make
sure
that
we
can
provide
for
each
and
every
single
person
out
there.
They
may
be
having
addictions,
but
guess
what
that's
not
their
fault.
It's
a
system's
fault.
They
threw
us
on
all
these
pills
and
then
wanted
to
cut
us
off.
Well,
guess
what
that's?
What
spiraled
out
of
control
so
I
need
you
guys
to
take
ownership
and
help
our
people
out
there?
It's
not
just
all
their
fault.
Thank
you.
Thank.
O
A
An
insight
and
expressing
your
concerns,
it's
very,
very,
very
important
to
hear
and
and
and
certainly
moving
so
now
we
are
going
to
hear
from
city
staff
who
will
report
on
the
city's
plan
for
the
emergency,
navigation,
centers
and
I
think
will
first
hear
from
city
coordinator,
Maria
Rivera
vandemeyer.
Thank
you.
Thank.
AD
You,
chair,
Jenkins
and
council
for
allowing
us
to
come
back
and
speak
a
little
bit
about
our
efforts
at
the
encampment
at
our
last
meeting.
We
really
spoke
to
the
partnership,
and
part
of
that
is
really
a
partnership
that
is
community
driven
community
led
and
I
cannot
speak
highly
enough
for
our
mud.
Partners
are
now
partners
who
are
out
there
and
our
other
community
partners
who
are
really
helping
us
shape.
AD
It
is
a
gap
that
we
have
seen
in
the
system.
There
is
not
a
lot
of
low
barrier,
emergency
shelter,
programming
as
we
look
towards
the
city
and
across
the
nation.
The
concept
of
navigation
Center
have
really
taken
hold,
and
that
is
something
that
we
really
want
to
move
forward
to,
while
today
we
may
be
thinking
of
a
proposed
site
for
what
will
be
a
transition
or
a
temporary
navigation
Center.
AD
The
concept
of
one
that
remains
throughout
our
system
that
is
more
permanent
is
something
that
I
know
that
the
state
and
the
county
are
committed
also
to
thinking
about
in
the
future,
along
with
longer
term
items,
as
commissioner
McLaughlin
also
mentioned
as
well.
I
also
wanted
to
address
that.
The
lessons
that
we
learned
today
are
not
just
about
the
encampment,
although
we
appreciate
the
candor
and
the
vulnerability
of
so
many
at
the
campsite
who
have
shared
their
realities
and
their
stories
with
us.
AD
It
has
helped
shaped
strategies
that
I
think
we
can
use
in
the
future,
because
the
reality
is
that
the
plight
of
homelessness
or
the
unsheltered
is
something
that
happens
all
across
the
city.
It
is
not
just
happening
at
the
encampment;
it
is
the
physical
and
most
visible
manifestation
of
an
issue
that
is
impacting
not
just
us
as
a
city,
but
it
is
a
nationwide
crisis,
and
it
is
something
that
we
hope
to
learn
from
this
to
move
forward
and
create
better
options,
whether
they
are
treatment
options
where
they
are
housing
options.
AD
But
really
importantly,
one
of
the
lessons
we
have
learned
from
the
folks
at
the
encampment
is
really
focusing
on
mental
health
options
as
well,
and
so
I
want
to
not
let
that
be
spoken
and
be
said
that
the
the
opportunities,
the
richness
of
the
experiences
of
the
encampment,
will
actually
help
shape
a
better
future
as
we
move
forward.
I
also
want
to
address
the
issue
of
September,
30th
and
I
want
to
just
say
out
loud
that,
as
that
initial
date
came
forward,
it
was
a.
AD
It
was
something
that
was
a
date
that
came
forward
not
in
isolation.
It
was
certainly
a
date
that
was
done
with
staff
and
with
mud
leadership
at
the
table.
It
was
a
date
and
a
strategy
that
we
talked
about
with
other
jurisdictions
who
have
been
addressing
this
issue
in
terms
of
having
a
goal
in
which
to
say
all
right.
We're
going
to
put
all
our
efforts
quickly
to
a
certain
deadline.
Part
of
that
is
a
strategy
because,
as
you
know,
and
I
know
that
we
have
talked
about
this
in
other
and
other
times.
AD
If
we
had
said
six
months
that
we
owed
in
here
six
months,
if
we
had
said
a
year,
we
would
have
been
here
in
a
year.
It
is
a
strategy
to
get
us
to
move
quickly
in
a
coordinated
fashion
together
and
while
I,
don't
believe
and
I
think
that
we
are
clear
that
we
are
not
intending
to
disband
the
camp
without
an
alternative.
I
think
it
has
helped
shape
and
move
our
strategies
together
in
a
different
way.
AD
Just
earlier
this
morning,
the
mayor's
office
and
Miss
Park
and
myself
spoke
about
September
30th
being
not
being
viable,
because
we
need
to
have
this
discussion
today
about
what
a
site
looks
like
and
what
that
could
look
like.
It
is
the
commitment
of
all
our
staff
who
have
been
involved
in
this,
not
to
simply
say
all
right,
September
30th
has
come.
Everyone
leave
the
camp
that
is
not
where
we
have
been
talking
about.
It
is
not
what
we
intend
to
do.
AD
We
intend
to
move
forward
with
a
temporary
navigation
center
because,
first
and
foremost
wherever
that
site
is
located,
is
safety
is
public
health
and
it
is
services
to
make
sure
that
people
can
get
to
positive
outcomes
throughout
this
crisis.
So
I
I
stand
ready
for
questions,
but
I
know
that
I'm,
not
the
person
that
you
want
to
hear
from
and
so
I
will
yield
the
floor
if,
unless
there
are
questions
specifically
to
David
Frank
to
speak
a
little
bit
about
site.
AE
Madam
chair
committee,
members
David
Frank
from
CPD.
Thank
you
for
your
attention
today,
Thank
You
KC,
for
your
upcoming
help
before
I
start.
You
should
know
that
you
have
some
of
your
best
city
staff
working
on
this
emergency
situation.
Maria
Rivera
van
der
Meyde,
your
city
coordinator,
our
city
coordinator,
has
been
doing
incredible.
AE
Work
coordinating
inside
the
enterprise
and
outside
on
our
response
to
this
terrible
situation
from
CPD
I
would
acknowledge,
Chuck
lots
and
Andrea
Brennan,
who
have
been
instrumental
in
formulating
the
things
that
we're
doing
and
carrying
them
out
from
Public
Works
public
works,
director,
Robin
Hutchison
and
Lisa
cerny,
the
deputy
director
and
Mark
ruff
from
finance
and
property
services.
So
I
will
just
point
briefly
to
each
of
the
sites
that
I
will
then
mention
and
I'll,
probably
wind
up
putting
that
map
back
up
again
as
we
as
we
get
into
it.
So
I'll
stand
here.
AE
The
encampments,
as
you
know,
is
towards
Franklin
cedar
Hiawatha
at
the
top
center
you'll
hear
me
talk
in
a
moment
about
what
we
call
the
IPT
F
site
that
stands
for
indigenous
peoples,
task
force
and
again
I'll
get
into
the
details.
But
we
will
soon
be
bringing
forward
a
recommended
agreement
to
sell
that
property
to
the
indigenous
peoples.
Task
force
and
you'll.
Hear
me
mention
it.
It
isn't
one
of
the
primary
ones
we've
been
considering.
AE
Those
two
are
towards
the
bottom
of
the
image:
the
roof
Depot
parking
lot
and
please
remember
we're
talking
about
the
parking
lot,
not
the
building
and
then
2,600
Minnehaha.
So
I'll
say
much
more
about
those
last
two
but
I
wanted
to
orient
us
on
a
map
before
I
get
started
so
based
on
previous
staff
directions
and
in
response
to
lots
of
work.
AE
AE
We
only
considered
options
that
would
satisfy
the
request
by
encampment
residents
and
community
residents
and
organizations,
supportive
of
people
at
the
encampment
to
be
nearby
to
the
current
encampment
site
and,
as
I
said,
we
mostly
almost
entirely
considered
property
owned
by
the
city
and
the
county,
and
we
only
considered
properties
which
are
vacant.
There
are
far
too
many
issues
to
move
as
quickly
as
we
need
to
move
to
put
this
interim
facility
in
an
existing
building.
AE
AE
AE
Even
a
temporary
one.
The
site
has
been
environmentally
remediated
to
an
industrial
standard
and,
just
in
case
anyone's
wondering
that
means
pollution
has
been
removed
to
a
12
foot
down
level.
We
could
put
housing
on
grade
residential
on
grade.
Everything.
You'll
hear
me
talk
about
today.
Are
trailers,
okay,
likely
a
trailer,
that's,
which
is
what
I'll
tell
you
about
in
the
budgets
in
a
few
minutes?
That's
what
we're
talking
about.
AE
We
are
not
talking
about
tents
and
you're,
not
talking
about
something
more
permanent,
we're
talking
about
a
trailer
that
comes
to
the
site
and
is
placed
on
site,
and
that
would
be
okay
with
this
in
the
environmental
condition
that
2600
Minnehaha
is
and
putting
the
thing
you
need
to
know
about.
That
is
that
putting
water
and
sewer
the
utilities
below
grade.
We
would
need
to
be
and
are
already
working
with,
the
Minnesota
Pollution
Control
Agency
to
allow
that
installation.
AE
We
think
that
putting
the
interim
navigation
Center
on
this
site
won't
impede
future
development
on
this
site.
That's
why
we
own
it
we
own
it
for
future
development.
There
has
been
talk
of
a
Somali
mall
with
councilmember
Warsaw
Me's
office.
We've
done
some
work
on
that
any
development
that
might
happen
here
is
prospective
and
far
enough
in
the
future
that
a
short
use
from
an
interim
navigation
Center,
we
think,
would
not
impede
that
development.
AE
The
site
is,
as
you
know,
and
as
you
have
heard
today,
is
adjacent
to
one
charter
school
and
across
the
street
from
another,
and
we
know
that
and
the
closest
residential
properties
to
this
site,
which
is
largely
in
an
industrial
area,
including
those
two
schools,
is
about
two
and
a
half
blocks
to
the
northeast
as
the
as
the
crow
flies
I'll
now
move
on
to
describe
the
roof.
Depot
parking
lot,
that's
about
1.9
acres,
so
slightly
larger,
more
of
a
rectangle
than
the
square-ish
shape
that
2600
Minnehaha
is.
AE
It
is
also
city-owned
and
from
a
physical
standpoint
that
parking
lot
is
also
immediately
accessible.
It
is
zoned
I,
it's
also
industrially
zoned
and,
as
at
2600,
we
would
need
to
pursue
rezoning
of
some
sort.
Let's
call
that,
with
that
I'll
add
I
mentioned
to
permit
this
temporary
residential
use
on
the
site.
This
site
is
not
environmentally
remediated.
AE
We
believe
temporary
housing,
like
a
trailer,
can
be
put
on
top
of
the
parking
lot,
because
that
asphalt
cap,
we
think,
is
enough
of
a
barrier
between
the
environmental
contamination
under
the
asphalt
and
the
trailers
placed
on
top.
We
think
that
if
water
and
sewer
were
to
be
put
underground
at
roof
depot
that
we
would
have
to
do
some
level
of
remediation,
which
would
take
time,
we
think
it's
could
be,
it
could
be
possible.
AE
Although
I
know
my
phone
will
ring
tomorrow
from
the
MPCA
when
I
say
this
to
run
lines
above
grade
insulated
water
and
sewer
lines
above
grade
to
avoid
disturbing
the
soil.
The
site
is
across
the
street
across
Longfellow
from
residential
properties.
It's
not
adjacent
to
schools
and
here's
a
here's,
a
key
one,
creating
an
interim
navigation
Center
at
the
roof.
Depot
parking
lot
would
require
you,
the
City
Council,
to
make
a
decision
about
the
use
of
the
roof
Depot
parking
lot.
AE
AE
So
there
are
several
other
key
things.
I
want
to
talk
about
what
we've
been
figuring
out
about,
how
much
this
costs
and
how
long
it
takes
and
then
what
we
recommend
for
operations
going
forward.
So,
madam
chair
I,
will
look
to
you.
Should
I
keep
going
with
my
presentation,
or
do
you
want
to
pause?
There
are.
D
AF
Thank
you
and
thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
appreciate
it
first
of
all:
muchisimas
gracias,
a
todos
los
familias
que
estan
aqui
del
escuela,
the
Aurora
charter
school
yo.
Se
que
un
poco
difÃcil
para
ustedes
participar
en
este
proceso
por
que
algunas
veces
el
lenguaje.
No
se
press
tapara
que
ustedes
puede
andar
su
voz
su
voto
de
lo
que
quieran
para
sus,
familias,
gracias,
por,
estar,
aqui
voy,
a
tratar.
AF
So
I
just
mentioned
that
I
would
I'm
going
to
try
my
best
to
represent
them
and
represent
the
Native
American
community
that
I'm
also
representing
in
little
earth,
and
so
thank
you
to
all
the
community
for
coming
here
today.
So,
there's
sort
of
just
some
technical
questions
that
we
have
before
we
get
into
the
discussion
about
what
the
council
will
do
today.
This
information
is
being
presented
to
us
for
the
first
time
as
a
whole
body
where
we
can
dig
into
the
details
and
discuss.
AF
Many
of
us
have
wanted
to
see
some
of
this
information
before,
but
it's
been
sort
of
hard
to
ascertain
some
of
it,
so
in
relationship
to
the
roof
depot
site,
which
is
in
Ward
9,
in
which
I
support
openly
welcoming
the
camp.
There
and
I've
talked
to
many
of
my
colleagues
about
that
intent
as
well
as
clarified
that
there
is
no
nefarious
intentions
in
somehow
affording
the
city's
efforts
to
relocate
its
water
yard
activities
there.
AF
In
addition
to
continuing
to
see
the
greens,
jobs
and
in
green
urban
center
that
that
community
has
been
fighting
for
for
many
for
many
years
and
I
commend
our
city
staff
for
working
with
our
community
on
that
and
every
time
people
ask
me:
are
the
city
staff
doing
enough
on
this?
I
always
say
yes,
we're
doing
our
due
diligence
and
so
I
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
all
know
that
I
did
meet
with
Robin
Hutchinson
who's.
Our
public
works
director
to
clarify
that
there
is
no
nefarious
dark
intent
behind
this
move.
AF
It's
actually
me
saying
we're
smart
people,
we
have
the
political
will.
We
have
the
privilege-
and
we
have
the
the
challenge
to
step
up
to
this
and
solve
this
in
a
way
that
that
can
meet
multiple
community's
needs
in
a
way
that
have
never
been
addressed
before
so.
I
do
feel
privileged
and
sitting
here
on
the
dais,
with
many
new
council
members
who
share
similar
dreams
and
visions
about
what
our
city
can
be
and
how
we
can
be
holy
and
fully
with
everyone
on
board
and
not
pitting
communities
against
each
other.
AF
So
with
that,
I
do
have
some
questions
about
the
other
handout
that
was
up
on
the
projector
regarding
the
financing,
which
is
the
question
I'm
digging
into
a
little
bit
more.
So
it's
my
understanding
from
our
finance
director
that,
because
there
has
been
no
budgets
presented,
there
are
no
sources
of
funding
identified
for
any
of
the
camps.
That
would
go
up
to
help
them
Hiawatha
residents.
So
if
you
could,
please
change
this
to
the
other
hand
out,
so
that
everyone
can
see
what
I'm
talking
about.
Madam.
AE
AF
So
it
was
a
relationship
to
this
notion
that
I
think
it's
a
false
assumption
that
the
camp,
if
it
moves
to
roof
Depot,
would
be
there
forever.
So
that
triggers
this
monetary
sequence
of
events,
where
the
city
has
to
pay
itself
back
for
purchasing
the
land
of
roof
depot,
so
I
just
want
to
clearly
understand
what
that's
about
I
really
need
to
understand
what
is
under
city
council
purview?
What
are
some
of
the
amendments
we
could
take?
AF
AE
Madam
chair
councilmember,
Cano
I,
will
look
to
our
finance
director
mark
ruff
to
answer
the
bulk
of
the
question
I'm
happy
to
answer
about
the
2,600
sites
separately,
but
I
think
that
the
first
part
and
the
bulk
of
your
question,
if
I'm
understanding
it
right
goes
to
repaying
the
water
fund
and
Mark,
is
the
an
expert
there.
Yes,.
AG
Council
vice-president
councilmember
Cano
mark
ruff,
the
city's
chief
financial
officer,
thanks
for
the
question
and
first
of
all,
thank
you
also.
I
would
like
to
echo
the
strong
working
relationship
we've
had
with
you
on
a
very
difficult
site
for
a
number
of
years
and
difficult
in
the
sense
that
it's
good
to
have
a
piece
of
property
in
the
city
where
lots
of
people
are
interested
on
things
happening
and
that
we
are
all
willing
to
have
a
conversation
about
what's
best
for
the
enterprise
as
a
whole.
AG
It
was
envisioned
for
a
period
of
time
a
number
of
years
that
it
would
complement
to
the
existing
Public
Works
facility
that
sits
just
south
of
26th
immediately
north
of
the
roof
Depot
property.
And
so
there
would
be
a
you
know:
better
efficiencies,
better
service
delivery
for
Public
Works
services
and
in
particular
it
is
a
site
that
involves
the
real
okay
of
what's
called
the
water
yards,
which
exists
in
Northeast
Minneapolis,
which
is
a
site
which
is
has
been
used
for
literally
a
hundred
years
for
the
city
to
provide
water
repair.
AG
Primarily,
it's
not
distribution
facility.
It's
the
repairs
that
are
located
from
there
when
we
have
a
water
main
break.
We
also
have
other
other
water
uses
that
are
that
are
currently
envisioned
in
that
site
on
the
roof
depot.
So
there
was
water
fund
money
which
is
an
enterprise
fund.
It's
not
just
money
that
we
use
for
police
and
fire
and
for
general
resources
it
is
what's
called
an
enterprise
fund,
and
so
I
have
certain
restrictions.
AG
Those
restrictions
are
by
policy,
they
are
also
by
state
law
and
they're,
also
by
the
fact
that
we
have
contracts
with
other
cities
that
we
supply
water
to
including
riot,
which
is
a
good
thing
right
to
have
more
centralized
efficient
services.
Obviously
other
cities
think
highly
of
our
water
that
they
are
willing
to
pay.
AG
We
also
have
some
architectural
costs
that
have
been
encouraged
since
then,
but
clearly
we
just
talking
about
repaying
the
the
water
fund
that
amount
and
if
it
ceases
to
be
used
for
for
homeless
services,
then
again
the
water
fund
could
repay
the
Development
Fund
money
and
go
on
with
the
plans
for
water
fund
and
also,
as
you
have
mentioned,
also
working
with
a
neighborhood
to
see
whether
there's
non
municipal
uses.
That
can
be
accommodated
on
that.
AG
If
there
are
non
municipal
uses
for
what
some
of
the
neighborhood
organization
has
envisioned,
then
clearly
that
money
need
to
be
repaid
the
water
fund
as
well,
and
so
those
same
rules
apply.
So
that's
I
think
the
best
answer
I
can
give
you.
If
I
understood
your
question
properly
and
if
I
misunderstood,
I
apologize
so.
AG
Think
shorter
answer
is
yes,
and
even
what
costs
that
we
would
spend
above
and
beyond
just
the
land,
but
you
know,
for
example,
utility
hookups
that
mr.
Frank
mentioned
you
know
the
structure
that
or
the
trailers
themselves
may
involve
several
resources.
So
once
we
have
details
of
what
those
plans
would
be,
we
could
bring
some
of
those
resources
as
well,
but
the
short
answer
is
yes:
all.
AF
Right
so
just
for
my
council
colleagues
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
feel
like
we
need
more
time
to
look
into
the
specifics
of
what
kind
of
a
financial
set
of
complications
would
either
be
true
or
not
true.
If
we
choose
the
roof
depot
site
and
so
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
do
feel
like
I
wish.
We
had
more
information
before
us
today
and
a
little
bit
more
of
a
deeper
analysis
of
that,
and
so
I've
been
vigorously
sending
emails
right
now,
just
to
trying
to
get
as
much
clarity
as
possible.
AF
But
for
that
I
hope
we
don't
take
Rafi
bo
off
the
table.
I
definitely
think
we
need
to
take
the
school
site
off
the
table
and
I
hope
we
can
take
that
vote
today
or
make
that
very
clear
and
either
go
back
to
the
drawing
board.
We
have
a
council
meeting
tomorrow
or
we
can
take
a
decision.
We
also
have
a
housing
policy
that
meets
next
week
on
the
26th,
which
is
my
birthday
by
the
way,
and
we
could
also
decide
to
dig
deeper
into
there
and
have
more
consensus
around
what
we
think
is
possible.
AF
I
know
that
the
city
could
say
this
is
not
our
problem,
there's
another
jurisdiction
that
could
be
leading
the
way
that
could
be
taking
ownership
of
this
issue
in
a
different
way,
and
we
don't
have
to
be
doing
this.
What
we're
doing
right
now,
but
I,
realize
that
many
staff
members
in
our
enterprise
have
taken
leadership,
have
owned
the
issue.
Do
you
feel
connected
to
bringing
solutions
forward
and
I
want
to
acknowledge
our
mayor
without
mayor
Frey,
putting
affordable
housing
squarely
on
the
agenda
of
this
I?
Guess
a
cohort
of
elected
officials
I?
AF
Don't
think
that
we
would
be
having
such
deep
and
robust
conversations
on
this
topic
today
and
I
know
that
his
office
has
been
really
involved
in
addressing
the
issues
at
the
encampment
since
day.
One
so
I
think
that
you
have
right
now
before
you
a
very
strong
mayor's
team,
very
strong,
City,
Council
team
and
very
strong
staff.
E
Cunningham,
mr.
ruff,
please
don't
go
too
far.
Sorry
I
was
trying
to
whisper
shout
at
you.
I
just
had
a
quick
question
regarding
Enterprise
Enterprise
funds.
So
are
we
authorized
within
local
ordinance
and
state
statute
to
be
able
to
delay
paying
that
so,
like
let's
say,
I
have
we
are
able
to
have
put
off
the
repayment
of
the
six
point,
eight
million
dollars
by
let's
say
until
June
30th
of
next
year?
Do
we
have
the
authorization
to
do
that.
AG
Council
vice-president
councilmember
Cunningham,
so
there's
a
cost
to
a
delay.
The
cost
clearly
is
is
that
the
water
fund
is
not
earning
interest
on
those
dollars.
So
I
mean
there
is
a
cost
in
terms
of
the
impact
on
the
existing
operations
and
the
efficiencies
of
delivering
water.
So
I
think
we
have
to
account
for
all
those
costs.
As
and
that's
the
issue
at
hand,
right
is
how
do
we
define
what
those
costs
are,
but
clearly
at
a
minimum?
Those
are
the
kinds
of
cost.
AG
AG
Council
vice
president
comes
member,
Cunningham
I
think
it's
as
finance
people
right.
It's
like
always
the.
What
is
that
line?
The
former
president
said
I
was
wish.
I
met,
just
a
one-armed
economist,
you
know,
so
you
could
just
say
instead
of
on
one
hand
or
on
the
other
hand
right.
So,
if
you're
asking
for
my
recommendation,
my
recommendation
that
I
gave
earlier
is
the
one
that
I
stand
by,
which
is
the
cleanest
way
to
do.
This
is
just
to
take
other
money
and
move
it
toward
the
water
fund
and
say
for
a
period
of
time.
AG
This
is
not
going
to
be
water
fund
property
and
then
in
a
year,
if
we
find
another
solution,
we
just
move
the
water
fund
money
back
and
that
eliminates
the
risks
that
we
are
talking
about
with
this.
So
that's
my
direct
firm,
one-handed
one-armed
recommendation
to
you.
If
you
were
to
ask
us,
how
is
there
a
way
that
we
can
get
around
that
that
takes
more
discussion?
Sure,
okay,
thank
you.
So.
H
You,
madam
vice
president
I
know
we
have
more
to
hear
from
staff,
but
I
just
I'm
a
little
concerned
at
the
lack
of
detail
that
we
have
and
I'm
hoping
that
you
will
be
bringing
us
more
detail
in
a
budget
either
today
or
soon
right
now,
but
I
I
did
want
to
ask
a
broader
question,
which
is:
how
are
we
going
to
decide
when
the
temporary
facility
will
be
shut
down
and
dismantled
and
removed,
and
who
will
make
that
decision
and
what
criteria
are
we
using
like?
How
are
we
defining
success?
H
AE
Chair
comes
the
president
bender.
That
is
a
great
question,
so
I
shouldn't
I'm
gonna
answer
that
in
one
moment
I
should
say
in
front
of
all
of
my
sentences
today.
This
is
an
emergency
situation.
I've
showed
up
without
copies
of
these
things,
because
you
know
we
made
this
map
this
morning.
The
budget
I'm
about
to
tell
you
about.
We
pressed
our
consultants
to
have
for
us
this
morning.
AE
You
know
like
this
is
not
how
we
want
to
be
standing
in
front
of
you
right,
but
it
is
an
emergency
situation
and
in
that
spirit,
here
we
are
doing
the
best
that
we
all
can
right.
That's
not
an
answer
that
I
have
right.
I,
believe
that
that
is
a
combination
of
a
technical
and
a
political
and
a
construction
schedule
answer
I
would
say,
broadly
speaking,
what
I
believe
we
has?
AE
Staff
have
heard
from
you
all
and
from
the
community
is
that
the
temporary
meaning
the
interim
navigation
center
would
be
in
place
and
operating
until
there
was
a
replacement
and
that's
a
thing.
We're
committed
to
working
on
I'd,
forget
what
staff
direction
and
instructed
us
to
come
back
to
chair
Gordon's,
housing
and
policy
development
committee
in
some
upcoming
cycle
to
talk
about
our
plans
for
that.
AE
AE
Madam
chair
council,
president
bender,
no,
we
don't
as
we
stand
here
today,
but
that's
because
there's
a
series
of
things
that
haven't
happened
yet
I
haven't
had
in
a
moment.
I'll
tell
you
what
our
estimate
of
the
budget
is
only
once.
We
know
what
the
rough
budget
is
with
lots
of
caveats
because
of
how
rough
it
is.
Are
we
able
to
have
a
conversation
with
our
partners
about
who's,
going
to
pay?
How
much
of
that
right,
I,
hope
and
expect
that?
AE
D
Well,
I
guess
some
of
my
questions
were
already
asked.
I
think
there's
certain
assumptions
about
how
long
it
would
be
open.
I
also
think
there
are
certain
assumptions
about
how
many
people
might
use
the
navigation,
Center
I,
think
that
so
and
how
other
people
might
be
housed,
but
I'm
not
sure
what
those
assumptions
what
you're
assuming
I
know.
D
We
didn't
necessarily
have
a
number
on
how
many
units
that's
going
to
be
because,
quite
frankly,
we're
going
to
rely
on
the
nonprofit's
and
our
county
partners
and
others
to
to
do
that,
and
it's
a
complicated
way
of
getting
rehoused
when
you're
homeless
and
there's
we
did
talk
about
how
it's
an
individual
solution
for
every
family
that
needs
to
be
found.
I
was
curious.
I
am
curious
about
hearing
about
the
budget
and
I'm
also
interiors
about
hearing
about
specific
oversight
and
how
we
think
that
they
they
will
look.
AE
Madam
chair
council,
member
Gordon
I
would
say
yes,
we
considered
it,
but
we
believe
that
the
provision
of
services
and
the
intensive
amount
of
property
management
that
a
navigation
Center
will
take,
means
that
we,
the
public,
would
be
better
served.
Providing
those
services
in
one
place
and
not
scattered
or
in
several
places.
D
D
That's
why
I
think
we
were
really
clear
in
the
staff
direction
that
we
made
sure
that
we
asked
about
navigation
center
or
centers
the
same
with
the
housing
options,
making
sure
that
it's
open
so
I
appreciate
that
evaluation
and
I
thought
it'll.
Give
you
that
feedback
and
I
know
there's
a
few
more
Council
members
with
questions
before
you
get
to
move
on.
AH
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
I
recognize
that
there
are
challenges
with
all
of
these
sites,
and
that
were
in
an
emergency
moment
where
there
are
challenges
that
we
need
to
overcome.
I,
don't
think
that
I'm
ready
to
write
off
2600
Minnehaha,
even
as
we
sort
of
debate
the
sites,
I,
think
that
there
are
some
questions
that
we
need
to
ask.
I.
AH
In
an
emergency
situation
like
this
one
thing
that
I
heard
that
I
thought
was
particularly
compelling
as
a
concern
about
2600
Minnehaha
was
the
question
about
access
to
it
for
pedestrian
access
and
I.
Think
that
recognizing
that
crossing
Hiawatha,
which
is
something
that
I've
done
on
foot-
and
it
is
a
little
bit
treacherous-
is-
is
a
concern
in
terms
of
access
to
services,
I'm
wondering
if
between
our
partners
at
the
county
and
can
we
get
Metro
Transit
to
the
table
and
I
know
MnDOT
isn't
here
today
and
they
actually
own
Hiawatha
and
public
works.
AH
Have
we
given
some
consideration
to
thinking
about
making
that
a
friendlier
pedestrian
crossing,
certainly
in
terms
of
distance
walking
it's
not
farther
away
but
I
in
terms
of
psychologically
what
that
distance
feels
like,
because
you
have
to
cross
this
really
busy
highway.
I
understand
that
it
feels
farther
so
I'm
wondering
if
we've
given
any
thought
to
making
that
a
more
friendly
pedestrian
crossing.
If
there
are
things
that
we
can
do
in
the
short
term
to
help
people
get
across
Hiawatha
to
the
services
on
the
west
side
of
the
highway.
AE
AI
Council
vice
president
Jenkins
councilmember
Fletcher,
we
struggle
with
Hiawatha
from
a
pedestrian
perspective
at
nearly
every
crossing.
That's
there
it
is
wide
and
it's
fast.
What
I
can't
say
is
that
we
are
working
closely
with
MnDOT
on
a
number
of
fronts,
both
related
to
this
issue
at
hand.
This
emergency
situation,
as
well
as,
more
generally
in
our
transportation
plans
and
I,
think
as
any
of
the
sites
are
considered
and
moves
forward.
F
Think
you,
madam
vice
president
and
I,
think
I'll
echo
councillor
Fletcher
just
mentioned
in
terms
of
industrial
land
uses
and
how
they
come
England.
We
approve
these
things.
We
do
it
willy-nilly
or
spot
zone
that
we
can
create
complications
in
the
code
and
I'm
particularly
acute
to
that
since
50%
of
industrial
properties
in
my
ward,
so
so
I'll
just
echo
that
and
I'm
glad
that
was
commented
on.
You
know
citing
something
like
this
is
always
going
to
be
complicated.
F
It
doesn't
matter
if
it's
some
kind
of
facility
that
seems
to
be
disruptive,
sober,
supportive
housed
in
my
ward
and
yet
filled
to
gems
like
like
that
it
was
a
big
deal.
How
you
do
something
that
people
actually
say
they
do
in
principle,
but
then
they
just
don't
want
it
in
terms
of
proximity.
It's
a
pretty
standard,
dynamic
and
I'm,
not
surprised
these
issues
and
concerns
have
been
raised
and
of
course
they
do
need
to
be
addressed,
be
it
as
contra
Fletcher
noted.
F
You
know
in
terms
of
how
you
move
around
all
the
way
to
other
sort
of
abuses
and
concerns
that
can
be
grazed
by
them.
But
I
will
say
this
is
not
abstract
in
terms
of
the
complications
that
are
at
the
Home
Depot
site,
I'm
familiar
with
it
just
because
it's
department
work
in
terms
of
what's
contemplated
there,
the
project
staging
the
funding.
All
these
things
are
real
things.
The
timeline,
if
you
want
to
have
the
actual
project,
move
forward
on
a
timeline,
that's
been
developed
for
three
years
and
to
put
a
pause
button
on.
F
Oh,
that's
open-ended.
That
could
be
detrimental
the
project.
That's
a
real
thing.
The
monies
do
have
to
go
back,
that
there's
no
unclarity
about
that.
Those
dollars
are
appropriate
under
state
law,
with
specific
public
purposes,
it
will
get
paid
back,
and
so
what
we
have
our
two
sites
that
are
polluted
one
might
be
a
little
more
polluted
than
the
other.
They
are
approximately
located,
but
one
will
come
with
a
bigger
sticker
price.
That's
the
end
result
of
that.
The
complications
can
be
boiled
down
to.
F
We
can
solve
them
by
money,
but
could
the
money
be
going
through
trying
to
smooth
over
the
complications
of
one
site
or
the
other?
Or
could
those
dollars
be
used
for
the
very
things
that
we
said
we
were
going
to
use
to
remediate
the
issues
that
are
in
the
human
level,
not
on
the
pollution
level,
a
better
place
of
shelter,
better
resources.
F
A
E
Councilmember
Cunningham,
thank
you,
madam
chair
I.
Just
want
to
make
a
real,
quick
point:
I
used
to
be
a
former
teacher
in
a
public
school
and
I
understand
firsthand
the
vulnerability
of
schools
for
public
safety
and
public
health
issues,
there's
quite
a
vulnerability
there,
and
so
just
imagining
being
in
this.
In
this
situation,
where
I
would
be
a
teacher
and
having
to
navigate
across
the
street
as
well
I
hear
you
all.
E
We
can
talk
about
the
impacts
on
the
kids
like
I,
hear
that
and
I
know
that
there
are
also
children
at
the
camp
as
well,
and
we
need
to
be
dealing
with
children's
mental
health
trauma
across
the
board,
and
so
you
know,
I
I
can't
help,
but
ask
like
if
this
was
a
more
affluent
school.
Would
this
even
be
a
part
of
the
conversation
like.
E
I
just
wanted
to
express
like
as
a
former
teacher
and
somebody
who
has
been
in
public
education
in
a
classroom.
It's
just
we.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
supporting
our
schools
as
well
I
know
that
we've
approved
for
them
to
be
in
industrial
areas,
but
they're
still,
kids,
there
and,
and
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
best
named
and
into
the
space
that
trauma
early
childhood
trauma
is
real
and
it's
happening
at
the
camp,
and
we
have
the
potential
to
spread
that
trauma
by
putting
it
then
next
to
a
school.
E
AF
You,
madam
chair,
so
I
just
want
to
highlight
that
I
I
agree
with
council
president
bender
that
there
doesn't
seem
to
be
a
lot
of
the
details
that
I
guess
some
of
us
would
hope
would
be
here,
partly
because
we're
trying
to
make
a
decision
quickly
and
and
really
address
the
oncoming
winter
and
potential
cold.
However,
I
don't
think
that
we
should
rush
to
make
that
decision.
AF
If
we
don't
have
the
right
information
before
us
and
what
I've
been
just
trying
to
tell
folks
right
now
via
email
as,
let's,
let's
make
sure
that
we
have
the
information
that
we
need
to
make
informed
decisions,
and
so,
while
that
is
true
in
terms
of
what's
happening,
what
could
potentially
happen
at
the
roof?
Depot
site
and
I
didn't
realize
that
the
indigenous
peoples
task
force
site
was
still
at
play.
AF
I
see
the
MnDOT
land
lot
was
taken
off,
and
so,
while
we're
still
kind
of
looking
at
these
things
and
I
guess
grappling
with
the
information
that
that
we
have
right
now
and
perhaps
trying
to
get
more
throughout
the
day
today
and
tonight.
I
do
want
to
say
that
there
are
two
very
clear
points
of
information
that
we
have
today.
AF
The
American
Indian
community
has
requested
the
roof
depot
site
and
there's
an
empty
parking
lot
ready
to
go
number
two:
the
Latino
families
and
the
students
and
the
schools
are
saying
they
do
not
feel
comfortable
with
this
being
put
next
to
them,
at
least
at
this
pace
at
this
rate.
Right
now.
So,
as
we
heard
from
some
folks
in
the
audience
today,
the
school
learned
about
this
on
Monday
and
today's
Thursday.
AF
So
that's
probably
like
you
know
three
full
business
days
to
engage
with
a
discussion
or
even
understand,
what's
going
on,
and
so
for
me,
that's
really
important
that,
as
we
left
our
strategic
planning
and
racial
equity
action
retreat
this
morning.
That
today,
we're
being
asked
to
take
a
racial
equity
vote
and
what
would
it
mean
to
place
two
vulnerable
populations
really
close
to
one
another
understanding
that
we
haven't
had
much
community
engagement
and
discussion
on
this
issue
and
that,
frankly,
I
think
easily
80%
of
the
folks
who
are
going
to
be
impacted
by
the
move.
AF
The
camp
to
the
schools
can't
even
engage
you
in
there
in
their
own
language,
because
either
we
don't
speak
Spanish
or
they
don't
speak,
English
and
and
so
we're
having
what
I
would
say
a
divide
here
in
representation
and
a
gap
and
almost
an
erasure,
erasure
of
voices.
And
yes,
if
this
was
a
very
well
resourced
non
diverse
school
I,
don't
think
this
would
even
be
considered
a
viable
option,
and
so
I
just
want
to
say
that
we
should
just
take
that
off
off
the
table.
AF
We
should
either
make
a
decision
tomorrow
after
we've
had
a
chance
to
talk
more
or
again
next
week
during
the
housing
policy
development
committee.
But
please,
you
know
by
all
means
on
behalf
of
all
the
Latino
families
and
students
that
aren't
able
to
have
the
privilege
to
be
here
today
before
you
or
would
like
to
engage
you
in
Spanish,
and
we
would
need
a
translator
and
I'd
be
happy
to
be
that
person.
Their
voice
is
really
please
don't
relocate
this
to
the
next
to
their
schools.
G
I'd
also
like
to
thank
the
community
members
from
the
the
wall
of
forgotten
natives
camp.
Who
came
here
also
and
testified
and
spoke
up.
Thank
you
for
that,
and
what
I
wanted
to
talk
about
was
basically
the
human
element
that
needs
to
be
reinforced.
You
know
winter's
coming,
it's
gonna
be
very
difficult
and
I'm
very
happy
that
Ward
6
has
housed
the
camp
for
this
long
and
I'm
also
very
touched
by
the
support
that
the
communities
around
the
city
of
Minneapolis
and
the
state
has
given
to
the
to
the
camp.
G
However,
we
do
need
to
make
a
decision
I'm
very
much
troubled
by
the
2,600
site
and
the
reason
is
because
of
the
children
and
and
because
we've
had
neighbors
around
the
cap,
who
are
residents
of
our
Ward,
complaining
to
us
on
a
regular
basis
about
some
of
the
issues
that
they've
seen
as
a
hardship
to
them
and
I'm
worried
that
would
have
the
same
impact,
if
not
more
with
the
children
and
the
schools.
So
that's
one
of
my
main
concerns
is
the
2600
site.
G
It
is
a
viable
site
and
I
want
to
hear
from
the
staff.
You
know.
How
can
you
know?
Is
there
some
plans
to
mitigate
against
some
of
the
concerns
that
we've
heard
from
the
schools?
What
can
we
do?
Is
it
possible
to
to
have
a
school?
You
know
run
five
days
a
week
full
of
children
next
to
a
camp
where
there's
going
to
be
vulnerable.
Members
of
our
community
house
I
think
that's
a
concern
that
we
have
and
I
and
I
would
like
that
to
be
addressed.
G
AE
AE
Frank,
thank
you,
madam
chair
council,
member
saumui,
when,
after
the
council
has
asked
their
questions
and
made
their
points,
I
do
have
some
layouts
to
show
you,
along
with
budget
estimates
and
happy
to
talk
about
what
that
the
budgets
that
we
have
gathered
planned
for
in
terms
of
what
is
the
condition
right.
So
what
do
these
look
like?
What's
the
enclosure
house
site
access
controlled?
So
I'll
have
a
little
bit
more
to
say
about
that
when,
during
that
part
of
the
report.
A
So
I
put
myself
in
the
queue
just
make
a
couple
of
comments
and
I
do
want
you
to
finish
up
your
report
so
that
we
can
have
at
least
more
information
than
if
we
currently
have
now.
But
you
know,
I
I
certainly
understand
like
this
has
been
a
response
to
an
emergency
situation,
and
so
we
don't
have
all
of
the
information.
You
know
I
understand
the
frustration
of
the
school
saying
that
you
know
they
didn't
know,
but
it
we
all
just
learned
about
this
site
as
a
potential
site.
A
AE
Madam
chair
so
you're
right
that
the
engagement
is
with
the
community
within
nearby
residence
with
the
nearby
businesses,
including
the
schools,
has
not
been
much
of
anything
right.
If
we've
had
a
couple
of
phone
calls,
that's
about
all
it's
been
and
that
isn't
how
anybody
has
any
plan
to
do
this
cities
business,
that
isn't
those
are
not
our
values.
Those
are
not
how
we
do
things.
I
know.
You
know
that
feel
like
I
need
to
say
it
at
the
risk
of
sounding
defensive.
AE
No,
it's
also
true
that
we
feel
most
strongly
from
you
and
your
colleagues.
We
need
to
get
this
done
right,
and
so,
as
your
staff,
we,
you
know,
we
turn
that
dial
as
far
as
it
goes
and
that's
why
our
we
are
standing
here,
asking
you
to
cues
right,
I,
understand
the
things
that
I'm
hearing
right
now,
but
the
clock
will
start
once.
There's
a
single
site
and
the
clock
won't
start
before
that
right.
We
can't
order
things.
AE
We
can't
finalize
the
length
of
fence,
we
can't
sign
a
contract,
we
can't
right,
we
can
keep
programming
and
we
can
and
we
can
make
reports
and
we'll
make
reports
to
committees
as
you
direct,
but
we
can't
start
until
there's
a
site.
That's
why
we're
recommending
one?
That's
why
we
hope
you
choose
one
Thank.
AF
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
just
wanted
to
share
that
the
discussions
in
the
community
I've
led
that
I've
shared
with
others
that
have
been
in
different
spaces
where
I've
been
present
around
roof.
Debone.
The
and
welcoming
the
camp
there
on
a
temporary
basis,
started
on
September
12th
when
we
got
the
copy
of
the
letter
from
the
metropolitan
urban
Indian
directors
group
requesting
the
site.
So
many
of
those
residents
that
you
saw
here
today
advocating
for
that
site
are
East
Phillips
residents.
AF
As
you
know,
we
have
a
community
meeting
on
Monday
the
24th
at
5:30
p.m.
at
the
East
Veloz
Park,
cultural
and
community
center
to
talk
about
the
future
of
roofs.
People
in
association
to
the
water
yard,
maintenance
facility
being
built
there,
and
obviously,
if
this
was
a
conversation
we
needed
we
needed
to
bring
there.
We
will
and
we're
sort
of
planning
to
do
that
anyway.
So
there's
been
a
lot
of
engagement
both
on
social
media.
AF
The
Star
Tribune
has
covered
this
as
one
of
the
sites
and
it's
been
a
push
from
the
community
to
have
this
there.
So
I
do
feel,
like
there's
been
a
lot
more
discussion
about
the
roof
depot
site
and
the
potential
camp
home
there.
Then
there
has
been
at
the
2600
site,
which
you
know
I
learned
about
on
Monday
as
well.
A
O
A
Is
closed
and
we're
we're
really
trying
to
have
discussion
in
order
to
get
to
some
level
of
understanding
for
the
members
of
this
body
to
be
able
to
make
some
decisions,
and
so
I'm
not
sure
if
the
people
standing
in
line
are
standing
in
line
to
speak.
But
the
public
hearing
has
has
been
closed
at
this
particular.
P
They
said
at
the
end
of
the
month
there
would
be
a
site,
reboot
house,
a
hundred
and
twenty
people
that
came
out
of
his
mouth.
It
ain't
coming
out
of
my
mouth,
see:
I,
have
to
go
back
to
that
camp
and
tell
them,
because
I
was
told
that
we
would
have
a
site
today
now
you're
trying
to
push
it
off
again.
P
P
AJ
AJ
AJ
A
H
You
ma'am
sure
I
hope
this
will
help
segue
into
what
the
stuff
was
about
to
show
us
next.
But
I
just
want
to
be
clear.
We
do
not
have
any
money
committed
from
any
organization,
including
the
city
of
Minneapolis,
to
build
this
anywhere.
So
we
should
have
a
really
detailed
and
thoughtful
conversation
about
where
something
should
go.
H
Instead,
what
money
we
have
for
this
or
don't
what
we
can
expect
from
the
county
or
the
stage
or
private
entities,
because
I
don't
want
to
continue
to
give
us
the
give
the
impression
to
the
community
that
we
are
serious
about
this
without
making
a
serious
commitment
of
actual
dollars
to
building
something.
So
I
don't
want
to
derail
any
conversation
about
where
this
should
go,
because
that
is
clearly
important,
but
I
just
want
to
remind
us
and
ground
us
in.
We
need
to
make
decisions
about
committing
dollars
to
this.
For
this
to
become
real.
A
AE
AE
How
much
will
it
cost
to
I'm
sure
everybody's
question
and
how
long
will
it
take
to
set
it
up
from
when
you
tell
us
that
we
can
start
and
then
I
want
to
pivot
to
the
operations,
because
to
date
this
has
been
City
as
lead
and
for
the
operations
and
the
funding
we're
a
participant
were
not
the
lead,
so
I
want
to
cover
both
of
those
things.
So,
first
I'm
going
to
show
you
a
couple
of
excuse
me.
First
I'm
gonna
show
you
a
couple
of
site:
layouts
I
will
start
with
the
roof.
AE
Thank
You
KC.
Oh
look
at
that!
Alright,
so
on
this
map,
North
is
to
the
right.
Longfellow
is
at
the
top.
28Th
is
at
the
left,
which
is
really
the
south.
So
what
I'm
going
to
show
you
here
at
the
roof
Depot
parking
lot,
which
we
have
studied
and
have
information
about,
and
at
2600
Minnehaha,
where
there's
a
layout
right
here
we
are
planning
for
laying
out
approximately
100
space
works,
approximately
150
residents.
AE
So
what
you
can
see
there
when
you,
when
you
look
at
it,
this
one
has
156
and
that's
space
for
156
people
in
trailers,
with
service
facilities
with
bathrooms,
with
showers
and
with
a
navigation
Center.
So
there's
there
are
several
places
for
residents
to
interact
with
service
providers
and,
of
course,
with
the
rest
of
the
community.
So
this
shows
that
on
the
roof
Depot
parking
lot,
we
can
fit
approximately
150
people
and
I'll
show
you
the
layout
for
2,600
Minnehaha,
which
shows
the
same
thing.
AE
The
streets
here
are
oriented
the
right
way,
26th,
which
is
north
at
the
top
and
Minnehaha
diagonally,
and
on
the
right
hand,
side
same
count:
156
space
for
156
residents,
same
facilities
laid
out
differently
because
it's
more
square
than
rectangular,
and
it's
worth
noting.
We've
we've
tried
to
identify
where
site
access
will
be.
You
can
see
that
note
is
on
the
right-hand
side,
just
above
the
word
Minnehaha
that
was,
and
it
was
on
the
roof
depot
layout
as
well
from
28th
at
the
South.
So
we
have
been
working.
AE
So,
for
instance,
around
the
outside
it
exists
is,
would
be
a
fence
with
a
gate
where
anybody
could
leave
anytime,
but
where
we
would
check
who
was
coming
in
when
people
arrived
at
the
site
to
make
sure
that
the
that
we
have
room
for
everyone
and
can
provide
services
for
everyone,
who's
housed
on-site
in
this
interim
condition,
there
be
a
fence
around
the
2600
Minnehaha
site.
There
is
a
fence
today
at
the
roof
depot
site,
so
those
things
are
factored
into
our
budget.
AE
So
what
these
would
look
like
would
be
trailers
placed
on
the
site,
fencing
around
the
outside
and
a
configuration
and
an
exact
specification
to
be
determined.
Those
are
included
in
the
budgets
I'll
mention
in
a
moment,
and
we
have
programmed
and
developed
budgets
for
the
physical
construction
of
this
layout
at
2600
and
I'll
put
the
roof
depot
layout
back
up.
AE
And
you
can
see
the
site
access
at
the
South
there,
the
the
physical
construction,
creating
this
the
necessary
infrastructure
work,
including
the
utilities
that
I
mentioned
earlier.
Here's
what's
not
included
in
the
budget
numbers
I'm
about
to
tell
you
what's
not
included,
because
we
don't
know
yet
are
the
social
services,
the
actual
navigation
of
the
navigation
Center.
So
the
number
I'm
about
to
tell
you
is
to
construct
this
and
have
it
operate
from
a
property
management
standpoint
for
a
year,
but
not
the
social
services.
AE
We
do
not
know
that
number
yet
so
I
need
that
needs
to
be
a
very
large
asterisk
and
that
number
these
numbers
for
either
site
range
between
two
million
dollars
and
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
to
construct
it.
No
land
acquisition,
I'll
set
aside
the
water
fund
discussion
we
own
both
of
these
no
land
acquisition.
AE
So
this
is
for
the
physical
construction
and
to
operate
it
again
from
a
property
management
standpoint,
but
not
there's
no
number
yet
in
that
for
provision
of
the
social
services
which
are
so
necessary
here
so
again
between
two
and
two
and
a
half
million
dollars,
and
we
believe
that
from
when
you
tell
us
to
go,
and
that
means,
among
other
things,
choosing
a
single
site
that
we
could
have
this
up
and
ready
between
1
and
2
months
from
then
so
I'll
say
again.
I
know
you
know
and
I
know
you
are
as
well.
AE
AE
Do
you
mind
if
I
keep
going
couple
more
things
so
again?
What
do
our
costs
include?
Let
me
just
may
be
a
little
more
specific
for
anyone
who's
watching
at
home
I'm
for
our
news
media
colleagues
right.
So
this
is
for
something
between
one
and
a
half
acres
and
two
acres
secured
with
both
fencing
and
a
single
access
point
open
and
accessible
24/7
lighted.
AE
We
would,
of
course,
want
to
know
who
the
people
were
who
be
living
there,
we're
imagining
that
there
are
some
checkpoint
so
that
the
rest
of
the
world
is
not
coming
and
going
it's
only
the
people
who
should
be
there
all
of
these
structures.
The
residential
structures
are
trailers,
they
would
be.
We
would
sort
through
exactly
what
population
they'd
serve.
There'd,
be
property
management,
providing
bedding
linens
pillows
bathroom
there
be
bathrooms
in
the
bathroom
trailers
sinks,
toilets
showers,
there'd,
be
a
social
service,
trailer
a
health
care
trailer.
AE
As
we
know,
you're
very
interested
in
our
colleagues
and
public
works
are
investigating
lockers.
Okay.
We
have
spent
a
large
amount
of
time
in
the
past
days
on
availability
of
trailers
right
with
the
awful
things
happening
elsewhere.
In
this
country,
hurricanes,
trailers
and
specifically
bathroom
and
shower
facilities
which
are
in
trailer
form
are
hard
to
come
by,
but
we
are
confident
that
we
can
deliver
them
on
the
timeline
that
I
mentioned,
and
within
the
budget
that
I
mentioned,
we
still
need
to
investigate
the
provision
of
food
service.
AE
So
that's
another
big
asterisk
I
should
put
here.
We
have.
We
have
to
determine
more
specifics
about
all
these
things,
but
I
wanted
to
give
you
a
flavor
for
what
is
in
these
numbers
so
that
you
know
we're
not
just
throwing
something
out
there.
This
is
based
on
very
intensive
work
around
the
clock
by
ppl
and
by
city
staff.
So
we
need
to
investigate
the
security
needs
and
have
a
security
strategy.
We
have
to
have
policies
on
all
kinds
of
things
I'll
duck
on
those.
A
H
You,
madam
chair,
so
I,
know
we're
operating
under
a
quick
timeline
and
then
we
have
lots
of
talented
staff
at
the
city,
but
we
don't
have
expertise
or
experience
in
operating
or
designing
shelter
for
people
and
so
I
just
wanted
you
to
talk
through
who
who's
designing
this
who's,
helping
us
design.
This
I
didn't
catch
the
size
of
the
trailer.
If
you
mentioned
that
and
how
much
space
each
person
is
getting
and
then
is
there
common
area
or
not.
AE
Madam
chair
council,
president
bender
I'll
check
on
the
plan
when
KC
brings
back
the
copies,
I
believe
they're
the
standard
size
trailer,
and
somebody
mentioned
it
to
me
a
few
days
ago.
I,
don't
I,
don't
remember.
Okay,
you!
We
have
been
working
with
colleagues
and
social
service
organizations
in
the
community
and
specifically
in
the
Native
American
community.
AE
What
we
have
not
done
yet
because,
among
other
things,
we
don't
have
a
sight
not
to
keep
beating
on
that
drum
is
made
the
formal
arrangements,
so
we're
very
hopeful
about
who
will
have
working
on
this,
but
we
need
to
identify
scopes,
who's,
doing
the
what
I'll
call
straight
property
management
who's,
providing
the
social
services.
How
much
will
that
cost
to
up
to,
and
where
is
that
money
coming
from
to
your
earlier
question?
So
all
of
those
are
fantastic,
fantastic
questions
that
are
on
lists
at
the
office
book.
We
don't
know
and.
AE
AD
Come
flights
president
Jenkins
comes
president
bender.
We
have
had
several
conversations
with
a
variety
of
people,
including
our
partners,
in
with
the
Minnesota
Indian
Women's
Resource
Center,
with
MS
Park.
We've
also
been
speaking
to
those
folks
at
AI
CDC.
They
are
not
concluded
yet,
as
it
is
hard
to
think
about
how
to
do
programming.
When
we
don't
know
what
a
site
is
going
to
look
like
I
know,
our
Hennepin
County
colleagues
have
also
reached
out
to
st.
Stephen's
and
Catholic
Charities
and
others
who
provide
emergency
shelter
as
well.
AD
Vice
president
Jenkins
council,
president
bender
I
can
I
don't
know
if
they
are
having
public
meetings.
I
understand
that
this
is
something
certainly
that
is
has
been
part
of
the
commissioners
conversations.
It
is
something
that
David
Hough,
the
County
Administrator
has
been
talking
in
with
his
staff
as
well.
It
is
a
standing
conversation
and
topic
for
their
meetings
according
to
Jennifer
DQ
Bella,
so
they
continue
to
think
about
what
those
look
like
as
well.
AD
H
I
have
just
one
last
question:
I
know
there
are
at
least
one
more
the
council
member
who
wants
to
ask
something,
but
the
two
point:
the
2
to
2.5
million
dollar
figure
that
we
you
gave
us.
Could
you
tell
us
how
long
that
assumes
it's
under
operation
and
could
you
break
out
the
capital
and
operating
costs
either
now
or
in
the
future?
Madam.
AE
Chair
Kelso,
president
bender:
yes,
we
can
I,
don't
have
it
on
this
piece
of
paper.
I
will
say
that
the
two
for
two
to
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
assumes
and
that
it
would
take
between
a
month
and
two
months
to
get
it
set
up,
and
it
would
then
operate
for
a
year.
So
it
includes
one
year
of
operating
cost
again,
I'll
say
it
every
time
without
the
social
services,
the
navigation
part
of
the
navigation
Center.
So
two
to
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
gets
you
the
center.
A
D
AE
Chair
councilmember
Gordon,
yes,
the
two
to
two
and
a
half
million
includes
one
year's
worth
of
operating.
What
I
will
call
a
more
standard
property
management
arrangement
and,
yes,
it
includes
it
includes
security,
the
specifics
to
be
determined.
Yes,
we
have
included
some
assumptions
about
security.
Yes,
it
includes
lighting.
Yes,
it
includes
what
we
are
imagining
subject
to
conversations
once
we
have
a
site
with
our
social
service
team
provider,
team
navigation
team-
about
how
does
the
checkpoint
work.
But,
yes,
we've
included
assumptions
about
the
physical
construction
and
the
operation
in
that
number
and.
AE
D
AE
Madam
chair
councilmember
Gordon,
these
numbers
assume
renting
the
trailers.
We
are
doing
an
analysis
to
see
how
much
do
those
cost
and
how
long
do
we
think
we
might
actually
need
them
and
are
we
close
to
break-even
to
buy
them?
We
have
spoken
to
our
colleagues
in
emergency
management's
here
at
the
city,
and
I
will
continue
to
try
to
figure
that
out.
If
we
thought
it
was
going
to
be
longer
that
we
needed
the
trailers,
it
could
conceivably
make
sense
to
buy
them,
but
at
the
moment
these
numbers
assume
renting
them.
It.
D
Could
also
be
that
we
don't
have
a
hundred
and
fifty
people.
This
trailer
is
extra.
Also
seeing
these
three
trailers
also
makes
me
see
how
they
could
want
to
be
located
at
a
particular
site
and
to
add
another,
so
I
not
to
go
back
to
that
question
no,
except
that
I
just
did
now.
I'm
curious
in
terms
of
the
site
plan.
I
noticed
that
the
one
the
2600
proposal
is
all
the
way
in
the
front
of
Minnehaha,
but
we
don't
actually
see
it
on
the
block.
D
AE
D
D
I
think
it's
already
incredibly
cold
and
rainy
today,
so
I
feel
a
need
that
we
get
going
on
this
one
month,
of
course
sounded
much
better
than
two
months,
but
I
think
that
there
is
a
critical
need
down
there
and
there
will
be
even
when
cold
weather
comes
for
some
people
who
will
end
up
having
to
camp
outside
anyway.
They
won't
it'll
be
so
hard
for
them
to
find
an
alternative
without
some
help,
with
some
navigation,
so
I'm
motivated
to
try
to
figure
out.
How
can
we
make
the
Sites
work?
D
D
My
commitment
is
to
the
community
and
to
others
is
that
we
are
going
to
sit
down
and
we'll
see
if
this
is
the
site
that
the
council
decides
we
have
to
do
and
because
there
is
such
an
urgent
need.
I'm
gonna
roll
up,
my
sleeves
in
my
office
staff
and
everybody,
and
we're
going
to
come
in
there
and
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
everybody
is
just
as
safe
and
protected.
D
Probably
more
so,
quite
honestly,
because
if
the
encampment
goes
away
and
there's
more
services
that
are
meeting
the
needs
of
those
people,
a
lot
of
the
rippling
repercussions
throughout
a
lot
of
our
communities
from
this
encounter
and
the
dangers
and
the
fears
and
the
livability
problems,
we
can
manage
and
deal
with
them.
So,
quite
honestly,
closing
the
encampment
is
going
to
be
a
key
to
addressing
a
lot
of
problems
and
dangers.
D
We
have
right
now,
but
then
it's
going
to
be
really
important
for
me
that
their
staff
and
others
that
are
helping
and
we're
going
in
there
and
we're
talking
to
people
and
figuring
out.
How
do
we
mitigate
and
manage
those?
So
that's
if
it's
2600,
I'm,
also
open
to
the
roof
depot
site
and
I
want
to
understand.
It
seems
like
a
lot
of
those
concerns
are
coming
from
from
us.
D
I
don't
want
to
delay
the
waterworks
they
want
to
break
ground,
I,
think
in
the
spring,
on
that
project
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that,
if
that
our
public
works
director
is
comfortable
and
gets
the
reassurances
and
they're
certain
years
around.
All
of
that,
and
so
if
that
seems
to
be
the
site
and
where
we're
gonna
going
to
land,
probably
oh,
what
a
relief
as
a
council
member
that
I'm
not
having
to
manage
this.
D
D
But
I
also
want
us
to
also
stretch
and
say
what
are
the
problems
about
the
reef
do
people
and
how
could
we
get
over
that
I'll
feel
bad
if
you
leave
this
meeting
and
we
haven't
identified
and
agreed
on
the
site
and
if
we
do
I
expect
us
to
figure
it
out
tomorrow
and
I
expect
us
to
figure
out
a
way
that
we
can
commit
to
ourselves.
We're
gonna
make
it
work.
So
that's
my
little
speech.
A
AK
Member
Johnson,
thank
you,
madam
chair
and
I.
Just
have
a
question
here,
and
this
is
a
out-of-the-box
kind
of
question,
but
just
doing
the
math
on
the
budget
that
you're
talking
about
just
for
the
basic
housing,
it's
13,000.
It
works
out
to
about
thirteen
thousand
three
hundred
at
the
low
end
to
sixteen
thousand
six
hundred
per
individual.
Have
we
looked
at
in
making
some
assumptions
off
of
how
long
individuals
are
there?
I
mean
that
could
be
more
than
$100
a
night
per
individual?
AE
Madam
chair
council,
member
Johnson
I
will
say
similar
to
an
answer
I
gave
earlier.
Yes,
we
all
say
briefly
considered
not
because
it's
outside
the
box
was
it
brief,
but
because
our
understanding
and
part
of
the
basis
for
how
we've
have
landed
on
this
kind
of
a
solution
is
that
these
people
need
all
the
help
that
we
can
muster
and
that
we,
because
of
the
kind
of
answer
I
gave
to,
should
it
be
scattered
cider.
Should
it
be
in
one
place.
We
want
to
focus
the
public's
ability
to
be
helpful
in
a
way.
AE
J
That's
right,
I
think
you
matter,
Jared
had
a
question
about
the
the
difference.
We'd
the
two
sites,
just
in
hooking
up
the
the
water
and
sewer
on
the
roof
Depot
site
that
would
that
be
possible.
I
know
that
we'd
have
to
go
against
current
building
State
Building
Code,
which
they
tend
to
get
cranky
about,
but
also
just
what
would
that?
Because
this
would
be
an
on-ground.
That's
that
my
assumptions
that's
going
to
be
cheaper
than
going
in
ground,
which
we
would
have
to
do
for
the
2600
Minnehaha.
Madam.
AE
Chair
councilmember
Schrader
what
I
meant
to
say:
I
hope
what
I
said
is
that
the
installation
of
the
infrastructure
at
the
roof
depot
site,
specifically
the
water
and
sewer
utilities.
Those
public
utilities
we
know,
would
be
have
to
be
an
outside-the-box
solution,
so
not
against
building
code.
But
what
would
be
an
unusual
way
to
do
it
because
the
site's
not
environmentally
remediated?
AE
We
would
either
have
to
remediate
it
very
quickly
where
the
underground
utilities
were
going
to
go
or
get
permission.
Not
to
that
would
be
unusual,
that'd
be
outside
the
box
or
I
was
mentioning
that
there
could
be
an
above
a
solution,
I'm
not
sure
that
that's
less
expensive.
This
is
what
I
think
my
phone
will
ring
about
because
of
the
amount
of
insulation,
for
instance,
that
you'd
need
to
move
water
above
ground
in
a
winter
condition.
AE
AE
J
AE
AF
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
guess
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
if
folks
are
ready
to
consider
taking
some
action.
I
really
appreciate
council
member
Gordon's
statement
about
you
know.
There's
we
do
need
to
make
a
decision,
and
you
know
there's
a
few
of
us
that
have
talked
about
a
staff
direction.
We've
been
kind
of
working
on
it
here
and
there,
and
and
discussing
it
back
and
forth
back
and
forth,
and
so
I'm
I
would
like
to
know.
AF
If
you
know
folks
would
consider
the
the
roof
depot
site
and
then
I
would
like
to
bring
that
forward.
I'm
asking
my
staff
to
make
copies
of
that
right
now
and
I
would
just
like
to
ask
the
clerk
if
it's
okay,
if
I,
can
just
circulate
that
right
now
via
email
and
still
read
it
off
to
folks.
So
let
me
just
pull
it
up
and
would
love
to
hear
discussion
on
it
and
consider
any
questions
and
things
like
that.
So
let
me
just
pull
it
up.
A
AE
Madam
chair
Kel's
member
kind
of
it's
okay,
while
you're
doing
that
could
I
just
make
the
one
last
point
that
completes
everything.
I
was
hoping
to
say
today.
Yes,
thank
you
so
the
third
piece
right,
so
we've
talked
about
staff's
recommendation
and
our
analysis
of
the
sites.
We've
talked
about
developing
the
site,
how
long
that
might
take
and
what
that
might
cost.
The
other
thing
I'd
like
to
talk
about
for
just
one
moment
is
the
navigation,
Center
and
operating
this
interim
facility
right.
AE
The
city
has
led
on
each
of
these
first
two
things
right
figuring
out
the
site,
and
you
are
all
tremendous
leaders
for
taking
that
on
and
I
think
are
going
to
charge
us
sue
and
I
hope
on
developing
the
site,
but
as
the
as
we
pivot
towards
operations
towards
the
social
services
towards
the
operations
of
this
facility,
we
have
to
be
a
participant
and
not
the
lead.
So
I
hope
that
whatever
you
will
direct
us
to
do
will
include
recognition
to
the
council
president's
point
several
times
that
there
are
nonprofits.
AE
A
AF
A
AF
I
would
like
to
bring
forward
a
motion
and
it's
a
staff
direction
and
I'll
read
it
out
to
folks,
and
hopefully
you
could
have
it
before
you
as
well
via
email.
So
the
staff
direction
is
to
continue
to
work
with
a
coalition
formed
in
partnership
with
representatives
from
the
Minnesota
interagency
Council
on
homelessness,
Hennepin,
County
and
community
partners,
including
the
Minneapolis
urban
Indian
directors
group
on
the
city-owned
lot,
located
at
1860,
28th
Street
and
27
17th
Longfellow
Avenue
as
the
site
for
a
navigation
center
to
serve
persons
transitioning
out
of
the
current
encampment.
AF
This
work
should
include,
but
not
be
limited
to
the
following:
a
project
management
services
that
will
make
the
site
ready
for
conceive
before
October
31st
2018
a
working
with
a
finance
officer
to
prepare
a
finance
plan
for
both
capital
and
operating
costs,
with
a
clear
delineation
of
costs
to
be
borne
by
the
city
and
costs
to
be
borne
by
other
partners.
Work
with
Hennepin
County
nonprofit
service
organizations
and
outreach
workers
to
design
and
implement
the
operations
and
services
needs
of
the
navigation
Center.
AF
This
includes
developing
and
implementing
admission
in
use
policy
case
management
systems,
service
plan,
development
and
delivery,
security
and
center
staffing.
The
county,
nonprofit
service
providers
and
outreach
worker
workers
will
lead
the
planning
and
implementation
efforts
of
this
work,
with
support
from
the
city,
determination
of
a
property
manager,
determination
of
navigation
service
providers
and
outreach
workers
plans
to
mitigate
off-site
impacts
of
the
navigation
center
on
nearby
properties.
An
implementation
plan
with
a
sunset
date.
AF
Item
number
two
in
this
in
the
same
staff
direction,
would
be
to
return
to
the
housing
policy
and
development
committee
by
September
26
2018,
with
a
plan
for
the
navigation
Center.
That
includes
all
of
the
above
information
for
consideration
and
potential
adoption
by
the
council.
Item
number
three
is
to
participate
in
an
ongoing
joint
task
force
with
a
coalition
above
and
other
organizations
that
serve
on
shelter
populations
to
define
long
term
strategies,
including
regular
reports
to
the
City
Council
on
ongoing
resources
for
unsheltered
populations.
AF
Recommendations
for
interagency
coordination
related
to
future
encampments
supports
needed
to
address
social
service
needs
and
outreach
worker
support
in
unsheltered
populations
of
future
or
future
encampments.
I
think
it
was
supposed
to
say
of
future
encampments
and
related
budget
needs
from
the
city,
county,
state
and
private
sources.
So
the
intent
and
I'll
go
ahead
and
speak
on
this.
If
you
will
agree
to
take
this
motion
to
be
brought
forward,
so
I
would
like
to
explain
it
a
little
bit
more
in
terms
of
how
this
came
about.
So
many
of
us
do
feel
the
interest
in
addressing.
AF
AF
So
we
know
that
there
is
need
to
address
the
housing
situation
from
a
short
term
perspective,
a
temporary
home
for
the
camp
as
well
as
looking
to
as
our
director
from
C
ped
just
mentioned
the
other
counties
and
jurisdictions
that
are
involved
in
this
conversation
to
make
sure
that
they
stay
engaged
with
us
and
that
we're
all
working
together
to
address
the
long-term
housing
concerns.
So
this
involves
three
tracks:
one
is
the
the
camp
temporary
home
to
be
at
the
former
roof
depot
site,
which
the
address
is
codified.
H
I
want
to
thank
House
l'americano
for
her
really
important
leadership
on
this
and
I
was
involved
in
helping
draft
the
staff
direction,
along
with
a
couple
of
our
colleagues
and
I,
think
that
there
is
a
lot
of
agreement
among
the
council
about
making
a
commitment
today
and
to
most
of
what
is
here.
I
have
one
small
amendment
that
I'd
like
to
suggest
to
some
too
item
1a.
H
That
I
think
the
author
will
agree
is
in
line
with
a
sentiment,
and
that
would
just
be
to
specify
that
the
date
would
be
mutually
agreed
upon
by
funding
partners.
So
you
just
add
project
management
services
that
will
make
the
site
ready
for
occupancy
before
October
31st
2018
with
a
date
mutually
agreed
upon
by
funding
partners.
I
just
feel
like
that's
important,
because
again
it
brings
us
back
to
the
reality
that
we
are
not
able
to
fund
this
alone
or
we're.
Assuming
that
we're
not.
H
We
may
come
back
and
change
our
minds
about
that,
but
we
certainly
can't
operate
it
alone
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
number
one
we're
engaging
the
community
on
any
dates
that
are
announced
so
that
we're
not
causing
stress
and
confusion
and
that
we
are,
you
know,
making
sure
that
everyone
at
the
table
is
an
agreement
that
time
line
for
any
transitions.
So
that's
the
purpose
of
that
amendment.
I
also
want
to
separately
move
that
we
consider
a
different
site,
but
I
think
I
want
to
take
up.
H
The
overall
motion,
like
the
small
amendment
first
and
I
know
other
council
members
do
want
to
speak
to
this.
I
do
want
to
say
that
for
myself,
I
am
going
to
move
that
we
support
the
staff
recommendation
of
the
2600
site
for
the
following
reasons.
Number
one
I
feel
very
strongly
that
we
need
a
new
water
yard
facility
for
our
staff
that
maintain
and
make
sure
that
we
have
clean
water
coming
to
our
homes
and
businesses
not
to
be
overly
dramatic
about
that.
H
But
not
every
city
in
the
country
can
say
that
and
I
think
it's
really
important
that
our
staff
be
able
to
do
their
jobs.
Well,
I
personally
feel
very
uncomfortable
setting
any
kind
of
date
that
says
we're
gonna
close
this
down
by
this
date
and
I
think
again
like
this
any
other
date
that
we
choose.
That
needs
to
be
mutually
agreed
upon
and
so
I
feel
uncomfortable
with
the
idea
that
we
would
say
by
spring
or
by
fall
or
some
certain
date
that
we
would
be
shutting
down
at
the
temporary
navigation.
H
Center
and
I
know
that
there
is
disagreement
on
the
Pacific's
of
a
site,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
also
keep
in
mind
the
overall
agreement
that
we
have,
that
we're
committing
to
move
forward.
With
this
we're
going
to
need
to
consider
city
funding
for
this
and
I'm
hearing
a
lot
of
support
for
those
underlying
things.
Moving
forward.
A
AL
H
AL
E
You,
madam
vice
president,
I,
wanted
to
take
a
quick
moment
because
looking
at
0.3
talking
about
ongoing
Joint,
Task,
Force
and
looking
at
long-term
strategies
as
we
step
into
this
first
I
just
want
to
say
as
a
as
a
black
human
being
that
I
am
I,
stand
in
solidarity
with
my
native
brothers
sisters,
two-spirit,
siblings,
I,
stand
in
solidarity,
stand
in
solidarity
with
the
Latino
families
that
are
impacted
by
this
and
I.
Think
that
actually
a
transformational
solidarity
is
what
is
needed
to
really
actually
get
to
the
roots
for
our
communities.
E
I
think
it
can
really
be
impactful.
It
can
be
really
challenging
as
a
black
person
to
also
be
able
to
talk
hold
both
truths
around
Native,
community
or
I
shouldn't,
say:
I
have
a
struggle.
I
would
say
that
we
have
a
struggle
with
being
able
to
hold
multiple
truths
about
similar
but
different
experiences.
E
So
we
so,
but
it's
a
both/and,
but
I
would
say
that
you
know
white
supremacy,
Eurocentric
logic
forces
us
to
do
in
either/or.
It's
either
the
Native
community
or
is
the
black
community
either
the
Latino
community
or
its
white
folks,
like
it
always
either
or
and
but
I
think
that
we
have
the
ability
now
to
choose
to
do
differently,
and
so
I
wanted
to
name
that
I
stand
with
the
community
and
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
I
name
into
this
space.
E
What
homeless
look
homelessness,
looks
like
on
the
north
side,
so
homelessness
on
the
north
side
looks
like
you,
don't
have
a
lease
or
a
mortgage
in
your
name.
That
means
that
somebody
once
told
me
that
your
one
argument
away
from
having
nowhere
to
sleep
tonight
and
so
a
lot
of
folks
couch-surf
a
lot
of
folks,
it's
hidden
in
North
Minneapolis,
the
epidemic
of
homelessness.
E
But
it's
also
sort
of
not
because
when
you
look
at
downtown
most,
the
black
folks
who
are
downtown
are
from
North
Minneapolis
when
you
go
to
Youthlink
over
50%
of
their
kids
have
identified
with
only
two
North
Side
zip
codes.
Five,
five,
four
one
two,
which
is
in
my
ward
in
five
five,
four
one
one
which
is
in
councilmember
Allison's,
and
that's
just
the
young
folks
who
have
identified
with
zip
code
they're
from
there
could
be
more
folk,
young
folks
from
North
Minneapolis
as
well.
E
E
Like
the
first
time,
we've
really
been
forced
to
look
at
the
consequences
of
genocide
and
generational
trauma
and
I
mean
this
is
pulling
it
out
into
the
open
in
a
way
that
I
think
is
really
important
and
I
really
hope
that
we
as
communities
of
color
and
indigenous
communities,
can
work
in
transformational
solidarity
to
actually,
instead
of
fighting
over
the
little
slices
of
pie
to
be
able
to
say.
Actually,
we
want
the
whole
pie
so
and
be
able
to
build
some
work
differently,
so
just
wanted
to
name
that.
Thank
you.
E
E
If
it's
cold
outside
I
was
just
kind
of
curious
about
the
potential
of
something
like
a
temporary
location,
so
that,
if
it's
like
until
early
December
before
we
actually
are
able
to
let's
say
get
all
of
the
trailers
on
the
location
to
be
able
to
stay
in
a
facility
that
already
has
showers
and
keeps
folks
warm
and
there's
lots
of
space.
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
answers
to
that,
but
just
throwing
that
out
there
as
a
potential
and
that's
like
a
thank
you.
AE
Medicare
customer
Cunningham
only
to
say
we
have
been
proceeding
100%
on
the
basis
that
we
will
identify
a
site
and
construct
an
interim
navigation
Center
on
that
site
and
that
we
will
do
it
as
fast
as
possible.
We
have
not
invested
any
thinking
really
into
the
idea
that
it
would
take
long
enough
that
we
should
have
an
interim
interim
er
yeah.
So
no,
we
have
not.
AH
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
This
is
such
an
important
thing
for
us
to
be
doing
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
we've
heard
is
that
it
is
going
to
take
some
real
resources,
and
that
is
going
to
take
some
real
courage
for
this
council
and
I.
Think
that
courage
is
there
and
I'm
excited
about
that.
I
think
that
that's
something
that
we
all
need
to
do
and
that
everybody
needs
to
hear
we're,
making
commitments
that
are
unprecedented
and
that
I
think
are
going
to
signify
some
significant
changes.
AH
I
also
think
we
have
to
be
realistic
about
the
limits
of
that,
and
we
have
to
be
thinking
about
being
honest
with
each
other
about
what
we're
able
to
do
and
where
those
constraints
come
in.
If
we're
talking
about
just
finding
two
and
a
half
million
dollars,
that's
not
an
easy
thing
to
do.
We're
gonna!
Do
it
right?
We
have
to
figure
it
out.
AH
When
we
talk
about
permanently
housing,
150
people,
the
cost
of
creating
new
housing,
is
going
up
and
up
and
up.
If,
if
we're
really
lucky,
we
could
do
it
for
a
hundred
thousand
a
unit,
and
that
means
we're
talking
about
fifteen
million
dollars
for
those
hundred
and
fifty
people,
and
so
then
recognizing
that
this
is
not
the
only
place
that
homelessness
is
happening.
Right
housing.
This
hundred
and
fifty
people
does
not
solve
the
problem.
There
are
so
many
people
who
are
on
housed
right
now.
AH
Workarounds,
where
we
could
pay
the
costs
of
delay
that
we
could
pay
the
costs
of
interest
in
the
costs
of
construction
delay
in
the
costs
of
maintaining
the
original
facility
and
the
cascading
costs
of
not
building
the
fire
department.
That's
supposed
to
go
on
the
site
of
the
original
facility
and
all
of
the
other
stuff
that
gets
sort
of
messed
around.
That
gets
sort
of
charged
to
this
project
that
we
could
probably
do
that,
and
that
could
be
a
set
of
cost
that
we
incur
and
that
that
would
be
money.
AH
AH
So
that's
the
money
that
would
not
be
going
to
actually
housing
people
in
the
long-term
and
creating
sustainable
solutions,
and
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
understanding
is
accurate
and
I
want
to
and
and
I'd
like
to
know,
because
it
sounds
like
you've.
Been
looking
at
this
model
of
the
navigation
Center,
do
we
have
a
model
of
a
navigation
center
that
was
opened
and
that
was
helpful
to
people
and
that
closed
within
a
year
after
it
had
served
its
purpose,
and
it
got
everybody
to
other
kinds
of
more
stable
housing
that
quickly.
AD
AD
If
you
recall
from
the
presentation
last
week,
there
are
some
that
took
buildings
that
were
already
abandoned,
some
that
were
on
a
parking
lot
and
they
remained
to
this
day
after
years
of
being
open
on
that
parking
lot
structure.
That
is
a
sprung
structure.
What
we
have
heard
is,
as
we
think
about,
and
the
caution
we
have
heard
from
both
colleagues
and
doing
some
of
the
research
on
the
interagency
Council
on
homelessness
is
to
precisely
be
careful
of
where
you
put
your
dollars
in
a
temporary
solution,
because
that
odds
are
will
become
a
permanent
solution.
AD
There
are
ways
around
it
if
we
are
intentional
and
are
thoughtful
and
is
one
of
the
reasons.
I
repeat
that
part
of
this
plan
is
to
build
a
navigation
center
in
an
appropriate
site
at
some
point
in
the
future,
because
I
think
it
is
needed
as
we
move
forward.
But
to
your
point,
there
have
not
been
a
lot
who
have
built
a
navigation
center
and
had
that
be
temporary,
but
that
is
because
they
came
to
this
dilemma
much
later
in
the
game.
H
H
But
I
just
I
just
want
to
say
that,
because
it's
54
beds
in
a
pretty
small
space-
and
it
looks
like
there's
like
basically
just
enough
room
for
the
beds
and
not
a
lot
of
common
area
and
I-
just
want
to
continue
to
you're
back
from
our
staff
and
all
of
our
partners
about
all
the
things
that
we're
going
to
need
to
have
in
place.
To
really
make
this
a
livable
place.
For
people
to
be,
and
I
really
appreciate.
The
part
of
this
direction.
That
comes
some
of
our
condo
brought.
H
That
that
makes
sure
that
staff
is
coming
back
to
our
Housing
Committee
next
week
with
more
details
and
we're
going
to
need
to
keep
hearing
these
details.
To
make
sure
that
we
are
setting
up
something
that
is,
is
dignified
and
is
the
kind
of
quality
of
shelter
that
we
would
expect.
Any
of
our
relatives
to
be
in
I
did
want
to
make
my
motion
to
change
the
location
of
the
site
to
2600
Minnehaha
Avenue
as
I.
H
If
we
go
forward
with
a
roof
depot
site
where
we
have
a
really
needed
City
facility,
and
so
that's
why
I
support
this
site
if
the
other
one
has
chosen,
if
Ruth
Tebow
is
chosen,
you
know
I
think
we'll
work
together
to
try
to
make
that
work.
But
I.
My
support
today
is
for
the
2,600
Minnehaha
site
and
I.
Do
think
it's
important
that
we
take
this
decision
today
and
if
there
are
other
sites
that
we
don't
know
about
or
something
else
comes
forward.
AF
It's
one
of
the
most
pressing
issues
of
our
time
and
when
I
met
with
Ellen
Arthur
a
few
days
ago,
he
was
describing
the
fact
that
you
know
he
anticipates
the
issue
getting
the
issue
of
homelessness
becoming
more
and
more
prominent
in
our
radar
screens
because
of
the
different
things
that
are
happening
in
our
society,
with
stagnant
wages
and
more
people
moving
into
the
region
and
us
losing
naturally
occurring
affordable
housing
at
unprecedented
rates.
So
so
I
think
it's
really
great
that
we're
all
working
together
in
a
very
collegial
way
to
figure
out.
AF
You
know
I
have
three
small
children
I've
been
to
the
camp
twice
many
of
my
friends
and
and
supporters
are
at
the
camp,
and
what
I
want
to
say
is
that
I
guess
I
would
appreciate
the
consideration
to
have
the
roof
depot
site
looked
at
because
I
think
what
it
does.
Is
it
challenges
us
to
fix
the
problem
and
not
to
let
it
go
on
and
on
and
grow
and
become
this
thing
that
just
kind
of
becomes
part
of
our
you
know
housing.
AF
AF
I
think
the
institution
needs
to
just
take
a
look
at
its
privilege,
a
little
bit,
try
to
figure
out
how
how
to
make
things
work
and
and
if
you're
feeling
uncomfortable
and
if
you're
feeling
the
tension.
Maybe
that's
where
we
gotta
go.
Maybe
that's
where
we
got
to
push
a
little
bit
deeper,
because
honestly,
this
does
put
us
on
a
timeline,
and
this
does
make
us
think
about
like
oh,
where
are
we
gonna
get
the
money
to
do
this,
because
this
is
a
short-term
commitment.
AF
This
is
not
a
problem
that
we
can
hide
away
somewhere
and
then
not
think
about
again,
which
is
you
know.
Part
of
my
worry
is
that
that
the
kind
that's
kind
of
what
would
happen
if
we
put
out
that
2600
Minnehaha
site,
because
it
doesn't
seem
like
a
lot
of
people
care
right
about
what
happens
at
that
site.
But
we
have
a
lot
of
eyes
and
care
about
what
happens
at
the
roof
depot
site
and
that's
what
I
want
I
want.
AF
I
want
that
I
want
that
institutional
support
I
want
that
institutional
buy-in
I
want
that
institutional
worry.
So
if
we
never
thought
about
homeless
folks,
before
you
know
four
or
five
years
ago,
we're
gonna
be
thinking
about
them
every
day
from
now
until
fall,
2019
and
I
want
us
to
feel
that
to
work
on
that
to
have
that
be
in
our
calendars.
Oh
I
have
a
meeting
about
the
roof
depot
site
in
the
end.
There's
an
encampment.
AF
AF
We
can
bring
that
political
will
to
the
table
and-
and
it's
half
I've
seen
things
like
this
before
right,
you
get
into
rooms
and
people
say
it's
impossible
and
by
the
time
you
have
two
or
three
conversations
all
of
a
sudden.
You
know
we
have
minimum
wage
or
we
have
green
zones
or
all
of
a
sudden.
You
know
worth
bringing
in,
like
you
married
jacob
frye
dead,
forty
million
dollars
for
the
affordable
housing.
So
again,
I
believe
that
this
is
a
viable
site.
AF
I
believe
that
we
have
the
ability
to
work
on
this
together
to
make
it
work.
I
believe
we
have
very
talented
people
on
our
team
that
can
figure
out.
How
does
this
manage?
How
can
we
make
it
work?
There's
community
members-
and
you
know
if
we
put
out
a
call
right
now
for
like
a
brigade
of
volunteers,
to
help
us
put
up
small
portable
houses
in
a
parking
lot.
AF
I
know
we
would
have
it
we're
not
leveraging
all
the
power
and
voice
and
platform
to
get
the
assets
that
are
available
to
our
community
to
support
folks
I
mean
you've
been
seeing
how
many
donations
have
been
pouring
in
and
yes,
the
message
will
always
be.
This
is
a
temporary,
short-term
solution,
because
guess
what
nobody
really
wants
to
live
in
a
camp
forever?
You
think
those
folks
want
to
be
there
and
I
can't
forever
know
they
actually
want
to
be
a
part
of
the
solution,
and
you
saw
them
testify.
AF
Our
sergeant
sergeant,
grant
Snyder
has
been
incredible
at
building
those
relationships
and
bringing
folks
into
the
fold
and
I
know
women
who
were
in
a
you
know,
treatment
for
chemical
dependency
a
year
ago,
who
are
now
here
testifying
on
this
very
project.
So
the
change
is
possible.
Folks
are
going
to
be
able
to
be
empowered
and
might
be
even
connected
to
that
community
vision
of
green
jobs
and
making
the
east
phillips
community
better
and
throwing
down
to
see
what
else
the
community
can
do.
AF
That
is
here
saying
no
and
not
knowing
how
long
that
might
go
on
for
if
it's
going
to
be
two
three
four
years,
because
guess
what
now
the
camp
feels
comfortable
and
there's
no
pressure,
there's
no
there's
no
time
ticking,
and-
and
so,
if
you
folks
want
to
sign
up
to
that.
Alright,
but
I'm
not
really
interested
in
signing
up
for
that.
AF
I'm
really
interested
in
us
solving
the
deeper
issue
doubling
down
on
these
efforts
and
delivering
through
on
what
we
see
we're
going
to
do
so
when
it's
short-term
its
short-term
and
we're
committed
to
the
long-term
vision,
so
that
the
women
who
are
pregnant
and
living
at
the
camp
and
are
due
in
November,
can
have
some
more
stable
to
live
next
year
and
raise
their
children.
So.
F
You,
madam
chair
and
I,
think
there's
a
consensus
in
terms
of
wanting
this
to
be
short-term,
no
matter
what
location,
I
think
the
long-term
commitment
has
been
well
outlined.
I
think
we
have
commitment
to
that.
I
just
see
a
choice
between
not
caring
or
not
care
and
I
think
a
choice
between
really
being
concerned
about
embracing
a
lot
of
unknowns
and
a
lot
of
extra
expense
at
a
solution
that
needs
as
much
resources.
Now,
with
least
the
least
amount
of
uncertainty
and
I
think
one
site,
as
selected
by
soar,
recommended
by
staff.
F
They
very
clearly
outlined
that,
if
we
can
have,
the
imagination
is
home.
How
we're
going
to
figure
out
how
to
get
out
of
state
law
requirements.
We
could
certainly
figure
out
what
we
always
are
able
to
do,
which
is
to
come
up
with
good
site
plans.
I
mean
we
have
all
kinds
of
land-use
that
have
impacts
and
sometimes
those
impacts
have
conflict.
We
spend
a
lot
of
time
through
the
site
plan
process,
of
course,
which
we
don't
have
before
us
now
to
figure
out
how
to
mitigate
issues
and
concerns.
F
I,
don't
see
an
apples
and
oranges
here
in
terms
of
the
issues
and
concerns.
I
see
a
lot
of
expense,
a
lot
of
unknowns,
a
lot
of
uncertainty
to
add
to
an
already
challenging
situation
versus
here's
a
site
we
can
go
for
it.
We
actually
know
how
to
do
good
site
plans
given
the
time-
and
we
will
have
time
after
this
subsequently
to
make
sure
that
we
can
buffer
against
any
specific
issue.
F
E
D
Thank
you
and
I
spoke
earlier
about
how
I
would
do
my
best
to
support
any
any
site
that
can
we
landed
on
in
consensus.
I
guess
I
was
hoping.
We
could
think
a
little
bit
about
more
about
how
we
could
build
in
the
reassurances
that
could
potentially
make
the
roof
depot
site
work.
If
we
set
an
end
date
on
it
or
not,
I'm,
not
sure.
D
If
we
got
there
and
I
haven't
been
able
necessarily
to
think
of
anything
either
I
would
like
to
see
them
break
ground
when
they
want
to
break
ground,
and
it's
unclear
to
me
that
they
couldn't
break
ground
well,
the
encampment
is
not
the
encampment,
it's
not
the
encampment.
Well,
the
navigation
Center
was
there
so
I.
Guess
it's
it's
tough
for
me
to
make
this
change.
It
occurred
to
me.
Well
maybe,
and
we
could
we
could
try
to
talk
more
today
and
move
forward
without
recommendation.
D
If
2600
is
the
site,
it
may
be
that
there
are
other
mitigations
that
we
need
to
come
forward
on
and
there's
other
expectations,
and
you
may
see
me
back
here
and
hopefully
supporting
me
to
say
we
actually
need,
and
you
know
off-duty
police
officers.
We
need
walkthroughs
regularly
from
city
staff,
not
just
to
work
on
I,
don't
know
what
it
is,
but
so
it's
with
big
reservations
that
you
know
did
I'm
and
maybe
so
I'm
encouraging
you.
D
If
you
have
questions
about
the
amendment
you
could
think
about
that
we
could
go
back
and
try
to
amend
it.
Some
more
I
was
actually
thinking.
There
might
be
some
more
amendments
to
the
roof,
people
society
that
people
could
offer
to
say,
I'd
accept
it
if
it
said
it
would
end-
and
you
know
April,
we
could
talk
about
that
or
November
or
August.
So
I
decided
to
throw
that
out
there
Thanks.
AH
Thank
You
mr.
vice
chair,
so
the
one
question
I
have
that
makes
it
really
hard
to
support
the
roof
depot
site
is
understand,
even
if
we
were
to
put
a
date
on
it.
Let's,
let's
say
that
we
say
it's
going
to
be
closed
by
October
31st
of
next
year.
Do
we
have
an
estimate
of
what
the
cost
would
be
in
terms
of
delays
in
terms
of
the
things
that
we
would
have
to
reimburse
the
water
fund
for
for
that
year?.
AE
Mr.
chair
council,
member
Fletcher
I'm
that
part
of
this
is
for
mark
I'm,
council
member
Fletcher
I,
believe
your
question
went
to
doing
part
of
it.
How
much
additional
cost
would
having
a
site?
That's
chosen
go
past
a
year
to
operate
that
site.
Is
that
part
of
your
question
or
is?
Could
you
restate
please
my.
AH
Question
is,
let's
say
we
did
limit
it
to
a
year.
Let's
say
we
successfully
said
we
can
we
can
time
limit
this?
We're
gonna
create
this
as
a
short-term
solution.
I
take
the
spirit
of
councilmember
condos
sort
of
call
to
get
really
serious
about
that.
If
we
were
to
do
that,
what
does
that
cost
in
terms
of
what
we
have
to
reimburse
the
water
fund
for,
because
I
feel
like
I,
don't
understand
what
kind
of
cost
I'm
committing
to
in
this
choice,
and
that
makes
it
hard
to
go
for
the
site.
AE
That's
what
I
thought
you
were
asking
so
if,
for
instance,
we
were
targeting
having
something
done
by
October
of
nineteen
to
be
the
replacement
site,
we
might
be
in
a
place
where
we
had
to
pay
more
to
make
that
the
case
sooner
I'm
saying
like
that's
a
project
that
wanted
to
take
18
months,
but
we
were
paying
more
to
accelerate
it.
That
happens
a
lot
in
construction,
so
I
understood
that
to
be
part
of
your
question
and
no,
we
don't
know
that
part
but
I.
Think
now
I
understand.
Your
question
was
for
mark.
AH
I
think
that's
right,
but
I
think
that
the
lack
of
clarity
around
the
additional
cost
of
that
as
well
and
saying
you
know
what
what
does
it
take
to
make
this
as
short
term
as
we
want
it
to
be.
It
would
be
very
helpful
in
making
this
vote
from
here
if
they
read
any
kind
of
numbers
that
we
get
attached
to,
that.
AE
AG
Council
vice
president
Jenkins
comes
member
Fletcher,
yes
I.
The
dilemma
were
in
and
I
just
want
to
reiterate
for
everybody.
We
have
staff
work
for
you
as
a
council,
and
so,
if
you
tell
us
to
spend
money
here,
we
will
spend
money
there.
You
are
also
I
think
asking
us
for
an
opinion
on
what
these
costs
are
and
I
still
stick
with
my
original
recommendation,
which
is
we
can
quantify
what
the
interest
costs
are.
We
can't
quantify
what
the
opportunity
costs
are.
Okay
and
the
opportunity
cost
mean
I'll
just
paint,
a
scenario
which
is.
AG
We
are
all
well-intentioned
about
solving
the
problem,
okay
and
we
create
even
potentially
some
some
new
housing
for
people
and
who
are
dealing
with
homelessness,
and
we
are
successful
in
that,
as
was
mentioned
earlier.
If
we
are
good
at
that
model,
then
we
want
to
repeat
that
model,
and
so
where
would
be
attempt?
Where
would
be
the
most
logical,
temporary
solution?
AG
It
would
be
on
the
roof
depot
site
and
then
we
would
produce
more
housing
to
deal
with
that
model,
and
that
would
be
a
very
good
effort
to
attack
a
very
difficult
problem
where
it
puts
us
is
two
or
three
or
four
years
down
the
road
for
not
having
a
water
site
and
uncertainty.
So
hence
the
reason
that
I'm
making
the
recommendation
that
I
do
because
I
can't
quantify
what
those
opportunity
costs
are
for.
AG
You,
I
could
just
tell
you
what
the
interest
costs
are
on
6.8
million
dollars
for
one
year,
but
that's
not
going
to
give
you
the
whole
picture.
So
I
don't
mean
to
be
vague
about
that.
It
just
want
to
be
as
direct
as
possible.
But
if
you,
as
we've
discussed
before,
if
you
choose
to
spend
money
on
something
we
we
will
find
the
money
to
get
done
with
whatever
you
choose
to
direct
us
on.
Okay,
thank.
AF
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
think
we
also
have
a
lot
of
lack
of
information
about
the
budgetary
costs
of
the
other
site
at
2,600
Minnehaha,
specifically,
because
we
haven't
engaged
the
school
to
understand
what
it
is
that
they're
gonna
need
the
city
to
do
to
make
that
site
work,
and
so
you
could
Ram
this
down
the
throat
of
the
schools
and
the
Latino
families
and
the
administrators
and
the
teachers
that
are
here.
I
think
that
would
be
a
horrible
mistake.
AF
If
you
go
back
to
read,
it
describes
a
process
to
come
up
with
a
budget,
a
plan,
a
property
manager,
a
sunset
date,
it's
to
get
more
details
on
an
actual
site,
so
we
could
at
a
future
time
if
you
decided
that
you
know
this
is
too
much
money
or
it
doesn't
make
sense,
or
all
of
the
questions
that
our
chief
financial
officer
wasn't
able
to
answer
here
for
us
today,
because
again,
this
is
the
first
time
we're
digging
in
deep
to
figure
out.
What
does
this
look
like?
AF
It's
we're
an
emergency
mode
response,
sort
of
timeframe
right
now
that
what
we're
asking
for
here
is
to
identify
a
site
and
dig
deeper
to
figure
out
what
those
costs
are
going
to
be.
What
that
plan
looks
like
what
that
sunset
time
looks
like,
and
it
also
includes
you
know
some
more
reporting
back
to
the
council,
as
well
as
the
long-term
options.
AF
I
would
be
happy
to
add
more
language
about
that
to
address
some
of
councilmember
Fletcher's
concerns,
I
think
it's
already
included
in
here,
but
if
we
want
to
make
it
a
little
bit
more
visible
or
I'm,
fine
with
that
so
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
I
think
voting
to
to
put
this
at
the
school
site
is,
is
not
a
good
idea.
You
could.
Alternatively,
like
council
member
said
you
know.
AF
If
you
don't
want
to
support
the
staff
Direction,
we
could
pause
it
and
discuss
it
tomorrow,
discuss
it
next
week
on
Wednesday
as
long
as
we
don't
put
it
at
the
school
and
if
you,
if
there
are
other
sites
that
cost
less
money
that
we
can
do
quicker,
that
would
be
amazing.
Let's
do
that
at
the
end
of
the
day,
however,
I
do
think
we're.
Gonna
have
to
put
our
money
where
our
mouth
is.
AF
If
we're
trying
to
solve
an
issue,
that's
been
ignored
for
the
last
four
to
five
to
ten
years
and
now
we're
grappling
with
it
face
to
face
and
there's
nowhere
to
hide
and
nothing
to
ignore
about
it.
So
we
are
gonna
have
to
pay
y'all
are
gonna,
have
to
pay
to
do
this
and
I
think
it's
worth
wild
I
think
it's
a
good
investment
and
and
I
don't
think
we
should
be
afraid
of
looking
at
price
tags
and
I
also
want
to
remind
everybody
of
what
our
council
president
said.
AF
The
city
is
not
on
the
hook
for
the
entire
cost
of
this
project.
We
have
so
many
partners.
We
have
so
much
volunteer
energy
and
support.
We
have
so
many
people
willing
to
help
and
stepping
up
already
there's
so
many
types
of
groups
and
community
outraged
folks
and
donations
I
mean
I
just
feel
like.
We
need
to
be
looking
at
all
the
assets
that
we
have
and
how
this
can
be
possible
instead
of
saying
no.
No.
No.
I
You,
madam
chair
I,
just
wanted
to
ask
a
clarifying
question
just
because
I
feel
like
it
hasn't
been
asked
like
this
straight
forward
when,
if
we're
gonna
put
this
on
the
roof,
Depot
site
that
that
seven
million
dollar
debt
sorry
six
point,
eight,
that
has
to
be
paid
back
immediately
right,
like
that's,
not
I,
feel
like
like
that
hasn't
been
answered
in
such
a
straightforward
way.
We
don't
have
an
option
to
like
wait
and
see
what
goes
on.
We
at
vast
to
be
replenished
immediately,
correct.
AG
I
You
yeah
I
I,
have
this
is
a
super
difficult
decision
and
I
think
for
a
number
of
reasons.
You
know
I've
been
thinking
about
some
of
the
conversations
that
I've
been
having
with
folks
over
north
I
represent
Ward
5,
which
is
a
community
that
faces
its
own
sort
of
challenges
with
regards
to
safety
issues
and
that
kind
of
thing
and
I
know
initially.
You
know
you
know
we
when,
when
there
was
a
lot
less
certainty
about,
you
know
where
exactly
this
will
go.
I
I
was
in
conversations
with
the
Minneapolis
Public
Schools
about
some
of
the
abandoned
buildings.
In
my
ward
and
I
know,
you
know
that
that
Ward
5
is
not
that
my
neighbors
and
my
resident
and
my
constituents
wouldn't
necessarily
want
to
see
this
go
in
the
ward
and
I
think
that
the
but
I
know
that
if,
if
that
was
the
way
that
we
were
going,
that's
that's
something
that
I
would
support
right.
I
My
point
with
that
is,
is
that
I
think
that
often
we
think
that
we
can
quarantine
this
population
off
in
a
way
that
we
simply
can't
right.
They're
there
they're
in
a
community
now
right,
they're
right
next
to
a
park
now,
if
we
put
them
at
roof
depot
they're
going
to
be
right
across
the
street
from
a
residential
area.
That
is
a
POC
community.
That
inevitably
has
a
lot
of
kids.
If
we
put
the
next
to
the
school
which
which
is
an
uncomfortable
option,
it's
it's
a
school
that
represents
a
POC
community.
I
It's
a
it's
a,
but
it's
also
in
an
area.
So
I
don't
think
we
avoid
any
of
our
problems
that
have
been
stated,
whether
we
put
them
at
one
site
or
the
other,
as
I've
been
listening.
I
really
wanted
to
be
supportive
of
my
colleagues
and
council.
Member
kind
of
and
I
have
gone,
went
down
to
the
site
and
talked
to
folks,
and
people
have
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
disagreement
about,
even
among
folks
living
in
the
camp
about
how
things
would
get
solved,
and
so
I
I
say
all
that.
I
We're
still
going
to
be
near
kids,
we're
still
going
to
be
in
a
residential
area,
we're
still
going
to
be
in
a
POC
community
and
so
on,
and
so
with
that,
as
it
stands
right
now,
I
don't
feel
comfortable.
Delaying
and
I
don't
feel
comfortable
voting
for
the
site
to
go
at
2600.
But
if
we
had
to
vote
right,
the
second,
that
is
what
I
would
that
is
the
I
would
support
putting
at
at
2600
as
it
stands.
So
I
just
wanted
to
vocalize
that.
H
You,
madam
chair
I,
I,
do
also
want
to
just
encourage
us
to
stick
with
this
and
make
a
decision
today.
It
would
feel
too
easy
to
say
well.
Maybe
we
can
find
a
MnDOT
site,
or
maybe
we
can
go
back
to
the
county
and
I'm
just
concerned
that
that
continues
to
further
delay
a
timeline
and
that
we
just
need
to
show
up
today
and
and
make
a
decision
and
thank
the
chair
for
setting
a
tone
of
respectful
disagreement
and
that
that's
okay,
I
did
just
want
to
read
it.
H
My
position
in
maybe
reference
to
sending
a
council
member
Gordon
raised
earlier,
which
is
that
I.
It
is
my
position
that
I'm
uncomfortable
setting
an
end
date
for
the
NAB
temporary
navigation
center.
That
would
be
a
date
in
which
we
would
clear
out
the
temporary
navigation
Center.
That's
just
my
personal
opinion.
I
feel
really
uncomfortable
with
that.
H
Given
the
uncertainty
of
the
fact
that
we
do
not
have
commitment
to
permanent
housing
for
folks
and
that
that
is
very
challenging
and
when
you
talk
to
people
who
operate
our
shelters,
who
work
to
house
folks
who
are
experiencing
homelessness,
that
that
is
a
very
large
undertaking
and
I'm,
not
sure.
We
should
assume
that
it
will
be
complete
six
months
from
now.
D
AI
D
AG
AG
D
AG
Vice
council,
vice
president
comes
member
Gordon.
You
are
asking
me
a
legal
question,
I
think
of
which
we
would
need
the
city
attorney
to
weigh
in
on
a
legal
question,
which
is
what
are
we
bound
by
as
I
mentioned
earlier?
It
is
not
just
council
policy,
it
is
also
state
law
and
it
is
also
contract.
So
I
think
that
would
you,
as
a
council
can
choose
to
be
informed
by
a
city
attorney
opinion,
in
addition
to
my
recommendation,
which
has
more
to
do
with
financial
risk.
I.
D
Like
that
I
like
that
idea,
a
lot
and
I
think
just
to
get
some
clarity,
because
I
would
you
know
I
that
the
argument
resonates
with
me,
but
I
wanted
to
be
clear
and
I
want
to
be
able
to
explain
to
to
people
why
this
decision
was
made
by
the
council.
So
maybe
we
could
ask
the
city
attorney,
madam
chair,
to
weigh
in
on
this.
A
AM
Madame
pure
councilmember
Gordon,
so
the
City
Attorney's
Office,
has
has
not
been
consulted
on
this
yet
and
it's
certainly
something
we
could
look
at
and
hopefully
get
an
answer
to
you
as
soon
as
possible.
I
am
sure
the
answer
is
that
the
money
has
to
be
repaid,
but
the
question
would
be
have
to
be
repaid
in
full
immediately
or
could
there?
AM
You
know
be
some
sort
of
scenario,
words
potentially
paid
in
what
would
be
sort
of
rent
and
ultimately,
if
there
was
a
use
that
was
deemed
temporary,
that
became
permanent
and
the
full
balance
would
be
due.
But
but
it's
something
we
could
look
at
as
Miss.
As
the
CFO
has
said.
It's
based
on
council
policy,
state
law
and
contractual
arrangements
with
other
jurisdictions
that
access
that
enterprise
fund.
E
You,
madam
vice
president
I
with
all
due
respect
to
my
colleagues
who
are
in
the
queue
behind
me.
I
think
we've
had
a
really
robust
conversation,
thus
far
and
and
so
I
would
like
to
call
to
question
the
men
council
president
benders
Amendment,
and
is
it
possible
for
the
clerk
to
do
a
roll
call
vote?
How
do
I
request
that.
AL
E
AL
G
AF
G
B
H
A
E
E
AB
B
H
D
A
AL
AL
D
So
on
I
did
want
to
comment
on
the
final
staff
direction
and
actually
I'm
prepared
to
support
the
save
it
the
location,
even
though
I
voted
against
the
amendment
and
I.
Think
I
would
have
preferred
us
exploring
the
the
other
side
a
little
bit
longer
and
we
might
even
find
out
that
the
costs
of
doing
the
navigation
Center
there
for
a
few
marks
aren't
as
high
as
we
thought.
I
think
we
heard
the
paying
back
to
six
point.
Eight
million
isn't
necessarily
something
that
we're
gonna
find
out
and
I'm
hoping.
D
The
attorney
will
still
dig
into
that
a
little
bit
and
I'm
not
going
to
necessarily
wave
that
around
too
much
because
I
realized
it
there's
other
repercussions
and
reasons
why
people
are
supporting
the
roof
depot
site
and
I'll
vote
to
support
this
overlying
motion
at
this
point
right
now,
because
I
wanted
just
to
demonstrate
to
you
all
and
everybody
I
guess
how
critically
important
it
is.
I
think
that
we
get
an
alternative
to
the
encampment
and
we
help
move
forward
with
that
and
so
on,
and
then
I
hope.
D
D
So
we
need
to
put
a
place
that
they're
willing
to
come
to
at
least
some
of
them
who
want
to
seek
help
and
then
obviously
I'll
be
talking
to
the
schools
and
others
in
the
community
in
my
neighborhood
and
I'm,
seeing
what
we
can
do
to
make
sure
that
this
works
in
a
good
way
and
I
know
that
some
of
you
said
you
don't
really
like
an
end
time
on
it.
But
I
want
to
be
able
to
reassure
folks
that
this
isn't
going
to
be
a
permanent
thing,
necessarily
right
there.
D
So
I
expect
there
to
be
you
to
help
us
figure
out
how
we're
gonna
find
more
stable
trend
or
transitional,
but
more
stable
housing
for
all
those
folks
who
go
through
this
Center,
and
this
isn't
necessarily
gonna,
be
the
location
of
any
kind
of
permanent
navigation
Center.
This
is
a
short-term
thing.
Correct
nod
your
heads
agree
with
me:
okay,
thanks.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
think
that
the
point
about
buying
in
is
well
taken
both
from
the
community
members
who
are
just
here
and
from
council
member
Borden
and
so
I
have
a
question
potentially
for
a
city
coordinator.
What
do
we?
What
do
we
lose
in
terms
of
with
a
day
because
I
think
and
then
I
guess
I'd
like
to
then
ask
the
City
Attorney's
Office?
I
How
long
you
know
could
we
have
at
least
some
semblance
of
an
answer
to
the
question
regarding
the
payment
of
the
water
fund
by
tomorrow?
I
know,
sorry,
I
know
it's
late
in
the
day
and
we
got
the
meeting
at
9:30
in
the
morning,
but
I
just
feel
like.
If,
if
we
go
ahead
with
this
and
we
don't
and
we
don't
have
buy-in
from
the
camp
and
we
aren't
wrong
about
the
water
fund,
then
you
know
I
do
think
that
there
are
some
inherent
problems.
I
Then
we're,
then
we
are
kind
of
putting
our
money
down
down
a
hole.
So
I
just
wanted
to
get.
You
know
what
do
we
lose
I
just
wanted
to
ask
the
question:
could
an
answer
could
some
semblance
of
an
answer
be
given
tomorrow
and
then
to
the
coordinator
of
what
do
we
lose
by
waiting
to
make
this
decision
at
9:30
a.m.
you
know
and
yeah?
So
I
guess
I'll
ask
those
two
things
answering:
whichever
order.
AD
R
AD
Time
is
of
the
essence
figuring
out
a
solution,
and
the
decision
to
move
forward
will
get
staff
to
move
forward
as
quickly
as
we
can.
We
know
that
we're
waiting
until
tomorrow,
anyway,
but
making
some
these
hard
choices
and
I,
don't
envy
policymakers,
as
you
think,
about
the
choices
ahead
of
you,
but
making
them
is
important
for
us
to
be
able
to
move
forward
and
find
solutions
that
we
can
then
engage
community
with
that
we
can
engage
our
staff
partner,
our
partners
within
our
stakeholders
and
move
forward.
I
AM
Sorry
yeah,
madam
chair,
account
summary
Alison,
so
among
the
other
than
many
other
considerations
that
you
have
discussed
today,
we
can
at
least
say
that
there
is
no
disagreement
that
they,
if
the
roof
depot
site
is
chosen,
that
the
water
fund
has
to
be
made
whole
or
repaid.
My
thought
and
the
question
that
we
could
look
at
is
whether
that
could
be
whether
there's
some
way
that
that
can
be
done
sort
of
in
installments
or
whether
it
needs
to
be
repaid
in
full
immediately.
AM
I
A
H
Know
we
all
need
to
go.
I
just
want
to
state
that
our
final
vote
is
tomorrow.
I
did
want
to
say.
If
you
believe
that
this
will
be
done
in
a
year,
then
we
would
move
seven
million
dollars
into
the
water
fund
and
then
move
it
back
out
in
a
year,
and
that
probably
will
take
some
financial
shuffling
and
may
mean
there
are
things
we're
not
doing
with
that
year
period.