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From YouTube: June 5, 2018 Transportation & Public Works Committee
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Minneapolis Transportation & Public Works Committee Meeting
A
A
Will
call
this
meeting
to
order
it's
the
regularly
scheduled
meeting
of
the
Transportation
and
Public
Works
Committee
I'm
councilman
Reich
I
chair
the
committee
and
I'm
joined
by
my
colleagues,
councilmembers
Johnson,
Palmisano
and
Gordon?
We
are
a
quorum
and
we'll
proceed
and
council
president
bender.
We
will
proceed
with
today's
agenda,
of
which
we
have
13
items
or
which
are
public
hearings.
Remainder
our
consent
items
I'll
go
through
the
consent
items
in
turn.
Item
five
is
the
contract
with
Alliance
for
sustainability
for
letter
began
event,
services
item
six?
A
Is
the
contract
with
progressive
rail
incorporated
for
the
61st
Street
West
Street
reconstruction
project
item?
Seven?
Is
the
contract
with
ch
a
consulting
incorporated,
4
railroad,
crossing
geotechnical
review
of
the
same
project
item
8?
Is
the
acquisition
for
pipeline
easement
and
the
location
of
an
existing
watery
main
item?
9?
Is
the
grant
applications
through
2018
Metropolitan,
Council
regional
solicitation
program,
federal
transportation
funds
item
10?
Is
the
snow
and
ice
removal
from
public
sidewalks
setting
a
public
hearing
for
July
10th
2018
item
11
is
the
bid
for
Upton
vinson
and
51st
Avenue
sanitary
sewer
replacement
projects?
A
That's
accepting
a
little
bit
from
Veidt
company
incorporated
item
12
is
the
bid
for
construction
of
American
with
Disabilities
pedestrian
ramps
and
that's
accepting
the
low
responsive
bid
of
concrete
idea.
Incorporated
and
13
is
the
bid
for
the
Girard
Avenue
South
sanitary
sewer
replacement
and
accepting
a
little
bit
from
our
company's
DBA,
Pete's
water
and
sewer.
So
this
customers
wish
to
pull
any
item
for
further
consideration.
A
Seen
done,
I
will
move
all
items,
I've
submitted
all
in
favor,
say
aye
and
dissenting
named
those
items
move
forward
to
full
council
before
I
go
into
the
public
hearing
section
we
rightfully
honored
in
the
last
meeting,
all
our
fine
workers
in
the
Public
Works
Department,
but
there's
another
element
to
keep
Minneapolis
ticking
and
that
are
our
round
of
interns.
So
we
have
interns
here
today
and
if
you
raise
your
hand
for
the
cable
viewing
public,
that
would
be
really
super.
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
your
service
to
the
city
of
Minneapolis.
A
B
C
Mr.
chair
committee,
members,
my
name
is
Matthew
dirt,
all
the
bicycle
and
pedestrian
coordinator
in
the
transportation,
planning
and
programming
division
of
Public
Works.
This
action
is
to
appoint
members
to
the
Bicycle
Advisory
Committee
for
two-year
terms,
starting
in
June
of
this
year
through
May
2020,
the
Bicycle
Advisory
Committee
is
made
up
of
29
members,
13
of
which
are
appointed
by
City
Council
members
and
that's
the
action
today.
C
Three
members
are
appointed
by
the
Minneapolis
Park
and
Rec
board
and
they
were
appointed
earlier
in
the
year
and
then
we
have
13
agency
partners
as
well,
that
are
administrative
Lea
pointed
by
the
respective
agencies.
So
the
appointee
lists
is
in
your
packets
and
that
concludes
my
presentation.
I'm
here
for
questions.
Thank
you.
Any
questions
per.
D
So
I
just
had
a
question,
and
this
relates
to
the
having
a
public
hearing
issue.
This
came
up
to
our
committee
earlier
and
obviously
none
of
the
committee
members
well
I'm,
not
sure
if
that
was
obvious,
but
we
the
the
requirement
for
a
public
hearing,
wasn't
important
enough
for
us
to
have
remembered
that
it
existed
at
least
me
and
also
to
understand
why
it
was
put
in
there
in
the
resolution
at
the
beginning,
I'm
wondering
if
you
and
I
don't
think
you
were
here
when
we
passed
that
resolution.
D
But
if
there's
been
any
discussion
about
that-
and
maybe
if
maybe
the
Bicycle
Advisory
Committee
themselves
could
talk
about
whether
they
think
a
public
hearing
is
warranted.
It
not
or
not.
I'll
just
note
we
kind
of
have
a
mishmash
of
when
hearings
are
required
and
when
they
aren't
and
there's
probably
different
rationale
for
each
time
we
set
up
an
advisory
group.
Sometimes
it
might
make
a
lot
of
sense
other
times,
I'm,
not
sure
a
lot
of
times.
The
appointments
are
so
organized
ahead
of
time
sort
of
set
up
this.
D
In
this
case,
we
each
Ward
can
designate
somebody
already.
So
it's
maybe
a
bigger
discussion
we
should
have
as
a
city,
but
just
before
the
hearing
I
thought
it
might
be
interesting
to
hear
if
you
have
any
understanding
of
what
the
rationale
is
and
why
we're
having
the
hearing
and
if
it
you
think
it
makes
sense
or
any
sense
of
what
the
Advisory
Committee
itself
thinks
about
a
hearing
requirement.
D
C
Cherrick
councilmember
Gordon.
Thank
you
for
that
question.
This
did
come
up
at
the
most
recent
Bicycle
Advisory
Committee,
and
nobody
that's
currently
on
the
committee
or
was
around
at
the
time,
had
a
strong
rationale
for
why
it
was
included.
My
understanding
is
very
few
committees:
I'm
have
a
public
hearing,
so
it's
definitely
something
that
I
think
we
can
look
into
and
possibly
bring
back
if
the
change
is
desired.
A
Thank
you.
Okay,
with
that
I'll
open
the
public
hearing,
anyone
signed
in
no
one
signed
in
does
anyone
wish
to
come
forward.
Anyone
wish
to
come
forward,
seeing
none
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
entertain
a
motion
to
accept
lifted.
So
what
okay?
It's
been,
a
move
all
in
favor,
say
aye,
centi
name
that
carries
and
thank
everyone
for
their
service
and
yeah.
We
will
look
forward
to
the
clarification
on
that
point
and
we
will
certainly
take
seriously
the
advice
of
the
committee
itself
item
2,
director
Hutchinson.
Mr.
B
Chair
members
of
the
committee,
our
second
public
hearing
today
is
on
the
Minneapolis
stormwater
management
program
and
Animalia
annual
report.
This
is
an
update
to
our
stormwater
management
plan
to
be
consistent
with
the
changes
in
permitting.
This
item
will
be
presented
with
a
graphic
presentation
by
Elizabeth
stout
from
surface
water
source.
Thank.
E
Morning
to
right,
Council
members,
I'm,
Liz,
stout
I'm,
the
water
resources
regulatory
coordinator
with
Public,
Works,
surface
water
and
sewers
division,
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
come
forward
this
morning
and
and
talk
to
you
about
the
many
layers
of
water
resource
regulation
that
impact
the
city.
Today's
public
hearing
is
to
provide
an
opportunity
public
input
into
the
city
and
the
Minneapolis
Park
and
Rec
Ward's
stormwater
permit.
But
today's
presentation
will
be
a
little
more
wide-ranging
I
want
to
cover
some
of
the
many
layers
that
cover
water
resources
within
the
city.
E
The
city
of
Minneapolis
falls
under
the
jurisdiction
of
us,
sometimes
the
wildering
array
of
entities.
When
it
comes
to
water
resource
regulation.
We
have
federal
state,
regional
and
local
rules
and
regulations
that
can
make
understanding
the
different
permits,
programs,
rules,
regulations,
ordinances
and
acronyms
around
water
resources,
incredibly
confusing.
Even
for
those
of
us
who
work
in
the
field.
E
My
goal
today
is
to
try
to
provide
some
context
and
clarity
around
water
resource
regulation
and
how
it
impacts
our
work
here
at
Minneapolis
and
highlight
some
efforts
underway
with
our
watershed
partners
and
how
we'll
be
using
data
to
inform
a
lot
of
our
ongoing
decisions
in
regards
to
transportation
projects
led
by
our
other
partners
within
Public
Works
at
the
federal
level.
The
most
important
regulation
that
guides
Water
Resources
in
Minneapolis
is
the
federal
Clean
Water
Act,
the
federal
Clean
Water
Act
was
passed
in
1972.
At
that
time,
the
primary
focus
was
controlling
industrial
pollutants.
E
One
of
the
most
significant
events
that
led
to
the
passage
of
the
Clean
Water
Act
was
significant
pollution
in
the
Ohio
area.
This
is
these
two
pictures
of
the
Cuyahoga
River,
one
of
them
it's
on
fire
and
the
other
one
shows
where
the
river
enters
Lake
Erie
and
it
shows
all
of
the
industrial
pollution
that
was
just
a
fact
of
life
back
in
the
70s
while
it
started
with
regulating
industrial
discharges
and
wastewater
treatment.
E
As
time
passed,
the
Clean
Water
Act
expanded
its
purview
to
cover
large
construction
sites,
as
well
as
municipalities
like
the
city
of
Minneapolis,
under
the
federal
Clean
Water
Act
Minneapolis,
like
other
cities,
needs
to
manage
the
stormwater
to
keep
pollutants
from
degrading
its
water
bodies.
This
management
is
done
under
the
newest
municipal
stormwater.
Permit.
E
The
fundamentals
to
the
success
of
the
Clean
Water
Act
for
the
city
of
Minneapolis,
is
this
NPDES
permit
in
minute.
Minnesota.
The
Pollution
Control
Agency
at
the
state
level
is
really
the
administrator
for
those
Clean
Water
Act
permits.
The
city
has
historically
had
two
permits.
One
of
those
regulates,
our
general
stormwater
discharge.
The
other
one
regulates
our
combined
sewer
overflow
system
back
in
march.
Katrina.
Kessler
spoke
to
this
group
about
the
combined
sewer
overflow
program
and
about
the
city's
success
with
minimizing
the
risks
of
that
system
to
our
water
bodies.
E
That's
katrina,
kessler
mentioned
back
in
march,
we're
moving
towards
a
more
integrated
approach
with
our
storm
water.
What
we've
done
is
we've
worked
with
the
Pollution
Control
Agency
to
combine
our
CSO
and
our
general
stormwater
permit
into
one
combined
integrated
permit.
This
was
actually
approved
and
by
the
PCA
and
by
the
city
back
in
February.
E
One
of
the
requirements
that
comes
with
this
permit
issuance
is
that
the
city's
working
on
drafting
what's
called
a
new
stormwater
management
program.
We
call
it
a
swamp.
That's
one
of
your
acronyms.
For
today
the
swamp
outlines
specific
things
that
the
city
has
to
do
on
an
ongoing
basis
and
any
new
programs
and
initiatives
that
we
have
to
implement
over
this
five-year
permit
cycle.
It
describes
work
plans,
timelines
and
participating
documents
are
in
departments
across
the
city
with
responsibility
towards
stormwater
management
programs.
E
It
describes
things
like
public
education,
illicit
discharge,
detection
and
elimination
and
how
we
manage
our
stormwater
facilities
like
ponds
and
wetlands
as
part
of
this
new
permit,
we're
in
the
process
of
updating
our
swamp
and
we'll
be
bringing
it
to
the
council
for
approval
most
likely
later
this
year.
The.
E
Next
to
our
water
resource
regulation
is
the
state
level
and
it
involves
the
Metropolitan
Council.
The
Metropolitan
Land
Planning
Act
requires
municipalities
within
the
Twin
Cities
area
to
provide
an
updated,
comprehensive
plan
every
10
years.
This
is
the
the
Minneapolis
2040
plan
that
RC
ped
develop.
Department
is
working
on
along
with
other
internal
city
partners.
E
E
In
order
to
try
and
work
towards
a
more
integrated
system,
we
have
actually
combined
these
two.
What
are
going
to
be
appendices
to
the
comprehensive
plan
into
one
overall
water
resources
management
plan?
I,
don't
have
a
cool
acronym
like
swamp
for
this
one.
Historically,
these
were
two
separate
documents
that
were
done
independently.
However,
because
we
do
have
integrated
systems,
we
want
to
work
towards
a
more
integrated
planning
document,
this
water
resources
management
plan.
It
describes
our
systems,
both
sanitary
stormwater
and
surface
water.
E
It
provides
a
description
of
how
these
systems
have
grown
with
the
city
and
how
we
operate
and
maintain
them.
The
water
resources
management
plan
also
includes
an
implementation
section.
This
section
describes
how
the
city
sets
priorities
for
water
resource
projects
across
the
city.
We
look
at
coordinating
with
Road
reconstruction
projects,
the
intersection
of
flooding
and
water
quality
improvements.
E
We
look
at
where
we
can
implement
water
quality
improvements
when
we
update
the
storm
sewer
system
due
to
age
section
describes
how
we
will
work
with
all
of
our
partners,
such
as
the
park
board,
as
well
as
our
for
watershed
management
organizations
within
the
city.
The
draft
water
resources
management
plan
is
right
now
currently
out
for
a
60-day
public
review
and
you'll
be
seeing
it
for
your
approval
later
this
year,.
E
E
The
city
of
Minneapolis
has
four
watershed:
management
organizations
that
have
jurisdiction
within
our
borders.
These
are
Shingle
Creek,
Bassett,
Creek
and
Minnehaha
Creek,
as
well
as
the
Mississippi
River
watershed
management
organization.
I
just
mentioned
about
the
city's
water
resources
management
plan
as
a
requirement.
The
comp
plan,
the
Met
Council,
is
one
of
our
regulators
and
has
to
approve
that
plan.
However,
these
four
watershed
management
organizations
are
also
required
to
review
and
provide
a
comment
and
approval
to
this
plan.
E
Each
of
them
has
a
ten-year
planning
document
and
we
need
to
ensure
that
all
of
our
how
we
describe
our
system
is
consistent
with
theirs
were
consistent
with
their
goals
and
policies,
and
we
also
look
at
how
they
regulate
stormwater
to
make
sure
that
we're
consistent
with
theirs.
So
they
are
also
a
regulator.
E
In
addition
to
being
a
regulator,
they
are
a
project
partner.
For
example,
this
project
was
done
with
the
Bassett
Creek
watershed
management.
Commission
there
was
a
stream
restoration
project
that
happened
through
Wirth
Park.
This
was
back
in
2012
coming
up
later
this
year,
we'll
be
doing
the
next
phase
of
that
from
Glenwood
Avenue
down
to
about
Van
White,
we'll
be
doing
some
erosion
repair
through
the
creek
section,
and
that's
that
Creek
is
a
project
partner
is
providing
funding
for
this
project.
E
The
Shing
at
management
organization
we're
working
with
them
to
look
at
some
bacterial
mitigation.
How
can
we
prevent
bacteria
from
entering
ours?
Our
water
systems
we're
finding
we've
done
some
bacterial
studies
that
are
showing
it's
pretty
ubiquitous
and
there's
not
a
lot
of
research
into
how
to
control
bacteria.
One
of
the
things
that
the
Shingle
Creek
watershed
did
was
they
got
a
grant
to
study
that
and
looking
at?
Are
there
things
that
we
can
build
into
filters
that
will
help
prevent
bacteria
from
them
going
into
our
lakes
and
causing
more
impairments.
E
We're
right
now,
working
with
the
Minnehaha
Creek
watershed
district
and
the
park
board
on
some
FEMA
repair
work
along
the
creeks
corridor.
We
signed
an
MoU
with
those
two
organizations
and
are
working
to
restore
the
creek
along
several
different
sections
in
an
upcoming
project
with
the
mwm
o.
The
Mississippi
watershed
management
organization
is
looking
at
a
pilot
project
with
between
the
watershed,
as
well
as
the
DI
D
partnering
on
some
green
infrastructure
pilots
and
how
we
can
put
green
infrastructure
into
our
urban
corridors.
E
The
city
implements
programs
across
the
city
for
for
water
resource
protection.
Many
of
these
programs
are
really
driven
by
our
NPDES
permit.
Those
require
street-sweeping
annual
inspection
of
water
quality
facilities
like
grit
chambers
and
rain
gardens
and
5-year
inspections
of
ponds.
This
also
includes
additional
things
like
we
televise
all
of
our
sanitary
and
storm
sewer
and
look
at
condition
ratings
and
that
helps
drive
future
improvements.
E
We're
also
doing
a
great
deal
of
modeling
both
for
flood
modeling,
as
well
as
water
quality
modeling.
To
look
where
we
maybe
have
some
deficiencies
where
we
should
be
putting
best
management
practices
in
for
water
quality
improvement
or
where
we
have
a
an
actual
amount
of
flooding,
rather
than
just
relying
on
resident
complaints
to
document
flooding.
E
With
models
for
flooding
and
water
quality
and
using
infrastructure
condition,
information
we'll
be
able
to
better,
evaluate
and
prioritize
where
green
infrastructure
investments
should
be
located
to
better
leverage
city
funds,
mitigation
solutions
will
likely
include
a
mix
of
underground
and
above-ground
storage,
green
alternatives
such
as
rain
gardens
or
bioswales,
and
larger
pipes
or
tunnels
for
additional
flood
capacity.
There
benefits
to
be
realized
for
realized
for
water
quality
as
well.
E
E
Past
projects
have
included
installation
of
infiltration
basins,
wet
ponds
or
a
combination
of
underground
storage
and
vegetation
swales.
These
are
some
recent
pictures.
The
bottom
left
is
the
infiltration,
Basin
and
Island
neighborhood
adjacent
to
Edison
High
School.
A
lot
of
these
stormwater
drivers
again
include
the
condition
of
the
existing
system
capacity
in
our
tunnels,
where
we
need
flood
mitigation,
water
quality
opportunities
and
also
leveraging
partnerships.
E
City
ordinances
really
exciting
stuff.
You
can
look
forward
to
seeing
updates
to
chapter
54,
which
is
the
city's
stormwater
management
ordinance
in
the
near
future.
One
of
the
drivers
to
this
is
our
watershed
management
organizations.
They
all
have
their
own
rules
and
regulations,
and
sometimes
we
have
to
update
ours
to
meet
their
requirements
along
with
our
new
stormwater
permit
from
the
Pollution
Control
Agency
requires
just
some
new
volume
reduction
requirements
and
new
water
quality
treatment
requirements
that
then
need
to
be
integrated
into
our
city,
ordinances,
I,.
E
Want
to
stress
that
none
of
these
layers
existed
in
a
vacuum.
They
all
impact
each
other.
However,
some
of
them
they
do
in
a
operate
sometimes
independently.
For
example,
our
national
pollutant
discharge,
elimination,
permit
or
NPDES
permit
requires
that
we
inspect
our
stormwater
ponds
every
five
years.
This
permit
requirement
guides
the
work
that
we
do
and
that's
reflected
in
both
the
city's
swamp
stormwater
management
plan,
as
well
as
our
water
resources
management
plan.
E
A
F
F
So
as
our
culture
and
our
city
has
changed
over
the
decades,
we
have
seen
dramatic
increases
in
the
amount
of
styrofoam
and
plastic
trash
littering
at
our
Waters.
Lake
Hiawatha
has
borne
the
brunt
of
this
cultural
shift.
Lake
Hiawatha
is
littered
with
tons
of
trash
derived
directly
from
the
streets
of
South
Minneapolis,
a
minimum
of
2,000
pounds
of
plastic
and
styrofoam
trash
gets
removed
from
Lake
Hiawatha
annually
by
volunteers.
Yet
this
extraordinary
effort
is
not
enough
to
clean
Lake
Hiawatha
of
the
trash
that
has
spread
throughout
this
important
resource
and
habitat.
F
For
years,
Friends
of
Lake
Hiawatha
have
been
asking
for
the
implementation
of
an
effective
mitigation
system
for
the
43rd
Street
pipe
or
called
the
North
pipe.
This
is
a
nine
hundred
plus
acre
pipe
shed
that
brings
tons
of
pollution
into
the
lake.
Unfortunately,
the
mitigation
of
the
north
pipe
has
become
mixed
in
the
debate
about
groundwater
pumping
and
golf.
This
has
resulted
in
delays
in
the
process
of
developing
a
solution
for
the
Aged
aging
infrastructure
of
the
north
pipe
dramatically
alter.
F
F
It
was
just
dramatically
altered
the
lake
bottom
and
the
litter
of
a
huge
swath
of
urban
streets
dumps
directly
into
the
lake,
creating
hazardous
conditions
and
impairing
and
in
some
cases,
killing
wildlife
residents.
In
addition,
the
lake
receives
all
of
the
other
chemical
contaminants
associated
with
urban
environments.
The
MPR
be
in
the
city
of
Minneapolis
have
been
presented
with
an
opportunity
to
implement
an
effective
mitigation
system
that
can
effectively
address
all
of
the
aforementioned
pollutants
by
using
green
infrastructure
and
other
stormwater
management
techniques.
F
However,
this
process
has
been
delayed
repeatedly
by
the
extended
and
divisive
community
debate
about
Ron
water
pumping
and
golf
the
Vista
buy.
Sadness
is
also
extended
to
include
the
park
commissioners
and
has
so
far
impaired
their
ability
to
address
this
egregious
source
of
pollution.
Since
the
mitigation
of
the
north
pipe
became
tied
to
this
debate
about
golf
and
groundwater
pumping
the
commissioners
decided
to
delay
the
closure
of
the
golf
course
for
five
years,
if
stormwater
management
and
golf
were
not
bound
together.
This
would
not
be
a
problem.
F
However,
the
delay
of
five
years
now
means
10,000
pounds
of
trash
for
Lake
Hiawatha.
We
urged
a
city
of
Minneapolis
and
the
MPR
B
to
move
forward
with
addressing
these
critical
infrastructure
needs.
Regardless
of
the
continued
debate
about
golf
infrastructure
needs
to
be
prioritized
over
these
other
public
use,
considerations
that
should
have
never
been
tied
together.
The
NP
RB
is
charged
with
keeping
the
park
land
free
of
Chet
trash,
yet
they
make
no
effort
to
remove
the
trash
from
the
shores
of
Lake
Hiawatha.
F
It
is
only
extensive
volunteer
efforts
that
work
to
stem
the
tide
of
trousers.
If
the
MPR
B
continues
to
delay
the
implementation
of
the
mitigation
at
Lake
Hiawatha,
we,
the
Friends
of
Lake
Hiawatha,
will
be
asking
the
MPR
B
to
meet
its
obligation
to
keep
the
park
land
free
of
trash.
Instead
of
relying
on
volunteer
efforts,
we
have
created
a
calculation
based
on
our
survey
of
the
trash
in
Lake
Hiawatha.
At
least
6000
pounds
of
trash
from
the
shores
of
Lake
Hiawatha
had
been
verified,
collected
from
2015
to
2017.
F
That's
2,000
pounds.
Every
year,
one
tonne
of
mostly
plastic
and
styrofoam
trash,
a
minimum
of
10,000
pounds
of
trash
will
accumulate
within
five
years.
It
takes
three
to
four
hours
of
focused
labor
to
remove
twenty
pounds
of
trash
from
the
shores
of
Lake
Hiawatha,
a
minimum
of
300
hours
of
direct
labor
to
remove
the
trash
per
year.
F
The
yearly
employee
estimate,
then,
would
be
sixty
days
working
and
420
hours
of
labor.
It
should
be
noted
that
if
mitigation
is
implemented,
that
would
not
be
necessary
and
that
the
isolated
and
captured
trash
could
be
much
more
easily
disposed
of
and
the
costs
of
disposal
of
the
trash
need
not
be
accounted
because
they
are
already
paying
for
that.
F
One
other
thing
that
we're
working
on
is
trying
to
get
a
trash
TMDL
in
place,
so
that
trash
can
be
considered
a
pollutant,
because
currently
it's
not
considered
a
pollutant
and
clearly
it
is,
and
so
everything
that
I
said.
I
would
like
to
say
that
we
feel
that
we
are
partners
with
the
park
in
the
city
and
that
we
do
have
a
very
positive
relationship
with
with
both
those
entities.
But
we
are
hoping
for
some
attention
on
this
issue
that
needs
to
be
taken.
Care
of
and.
A
A
Anyone
else
wish
to
come
forward
and
give
commentary
anyone
sign
in
anyone
wish
to
come
forward,
see
none
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
move
item
two
before
us,
which
is
the
Minneapolis
stormwater
management
program
annual
report,
any
further
conversation
seeing
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye
SNT
name
that
is
carried,
and
thank
you
for
the
report.
It
was
very
well
done.
A
I
think
we've
done
a
lot
of
work
to
make
the
invisible
visible
in
terms
of
our
structures,
but
there's
another
layer,
our
jurisdictional
sort
of
relationships
and
I
think
this
was
a
nice
complement
to
past
reports.
So
well
done
and
thank
you
we'll
move
now
to
item
three
alley
renovation
program.
It
will
be
noted
that
I
will
open
a
public
hearing
only
to
have
it
continued
for
a
subsequent
meeting,
but
we
will
take
comment
today
as
well.
Director
hutchinson
mr.
G
Mr.
chair
members
of
the
committee
Mike
Kennedy
I'm,
the
director
of
transportation,
maintenance
repair
for
public
works
on
May,
1st
2018,
the
City
Council
designated
the
alley
locations
for
the
improvements
to
be
made.
These
improvements
consist
of
installing
Apatow
or
an
asphalt
overlay
on
the
concrete
alleys.
This
work
is
being
done
to
extend
the
operational
life
of
the
concrete
alleys
and
to
facilitate
localized
drainage.
9
alleys
throughout
the
city
are
scheduled
to
be
resurfaced
in
2018.
The
project
cost
estimate
for
this
work
is
two
hundred
and
thirty.
G
Four
thousand
four
hundred
fifty
six
dollars
and
the
2018
adopted
uniform
assessment
rate
will
be
used
for
the
portion
of
the
project
costs
being
assessed
conforming
to
the
current
city
policy,
of
using
uniform
assessment
rate
for
Street
construction
renovation
and
resurfacing
projects
for
council
resolution,
the
uniform
assessment
rate
for
the
alley
renovation
for
2018
is
seven
cents
per
square
foot
of
land
area.
Abutting
the
alley
to
be
improved.
This
rate
is
the
same
for
residential
and
non-residential
use
properties.
The
total
amount
to
be
assessed
is
eighty-seven
thousand
eight
hundred
one
dollars
and
thirty
four
cents.
G
The
remaining
costs
not
covered
by
assessments
would
be
funded
by
net
debt
bonds.
So
our
recommended
recommendation
today
is
passage
of
a
resolution
ordering
the
work
to
proceed
and
adopting
special
assessments
in
the
amount
of
that's
been
mentioned
before
and
passage
of
a
resolution
requesting
the
board
of
estimate
and
Taxation
and
authorize
the
city
to
issue
and
sell
assessment
bonds
in
the
amount
of
eighty
seven
thousand
eight
hundred
five
dollars
for
this
program.
However,
we
also
recommend,
as
mentioned
that,
because
we're
not
positive
that
all
of
the
abutting
property
owners
have
been
appropriately
noticed.
G
We
want
to
continue
open
the
public
hearing
today
and
continue
it
until
June
19th,
whereby,
by
that
time
we
or
notices
that
we
have
been
mailed
now
we'll
be,
will
meet
the
requirements
of
our
legal
notice
requirements.
So
that's
our
presentation,
if
there's
anything
else,
any
other
questions
I'd
be
able
to
take
them
any.
A
H
Really
I'm
here
for
the
34th
Avenue
project,
but
one
thing
that's
been
along.
These
lines
is
I
haven't,
heard
anything
about
environmental
studies
between
asphalting
surfaces
versus
concrete
on
surfaces
and
in
the
brief
time,
I've
done
research
it
sounds
like
asphalt,
has
a
lot
more
toxicity
and
runoff
and
I
haven't
heard
a
single
thing
in
any
of
these
reconstruction
projects.
Regarding,
regarding
that
and
like
for
me,
the
34th
Avenue
project,
it's
concrete
now
and
they
want
to
make
it
into
asphalt.
H
A
H
Because
it
seems
like
we're
taking
a
real
short-term
view,
let
me
ask
the
concrete
and
that'll
take
care
of
it,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
water
and
a
lot
of
bedrock
and
a
lot
of
information
about
that.
So
I'm
thinking
with
being
pretty
short
term
on
what
we're
looking
at
versus
saying.
What
are
we
leaving
people
with
I
mean
because
the
longevity
of
concrete
I
mean
that's
a
solid
surface
once
it's
done,
you
know
well.
B
Chair
I
could
jump
in
here
and
briefly.
First
of
all,
we
have
several
engineers
in
the
room
that
would
be
happy
to
talk
with
you
afterwards
and
explain
the
trade-offs.
Each
corridor
gets
its
own
analysis
on
what
the
appropriate
treatment
is
for
that
particular
street
and
in
some
cases
the
technical
requirements
of
the
soil.
That's
underneath
it.
The
cost-benefit
of
the
material,
is
what
drives
those
decisions.
B
We
bring
forward
to
Transportation
and
Public
Works,
a
mix
of
both
concrete
and
asphalt,
and
each
one
is
evaluated
separately
based
on
environment,
based
on
engineering
on
cost-benefit
and
again
we
have
several
engineers
and
I'll
actually
ask
either
Mike
Kennedy
or
John
Elwood
to
just
spend
a
moment
with
you
and
and
just
talk
about
it
more.
Thank
you,
but.
H
H
A
I
D
D
Thank
you
very
much.
Yeah
I've,
just
hearing
the
comment
and
discussion
and
also
talking
about
alleys
right
after
we
talk
about
stormwater
management
made
me
recall:
lots
of
conversations
that
I've
had
with
residents
in
Minneapolis
wondering
why
we
don't
utilize
our
le
corridors
more
as
a
stormwater
management
thing
and
also
I.
Think
there's
some
there's
been
some
big
stories
about
Chicago
and
some
of
the
innovations
that
they've
done
to
help
manage
stormwater
by
looking
at
more
permeable
surfaces
or
making
room
for
water
management.
D
We
have
to
send
it
down
into
the
stormwater
system
and
it
seems
like
there
could
be
an
opportunity
here
and
I
know
that
it
was
one
of
the
projects
we
talked
about
in
our
resource
plan,
but
at
least
it
seemed
like
I
could
raise
that
issue
here.
To
look
at
that,
it
would
be
fun
to
think
about
what
could
we
do
more
of
with
that?
D
So
if
we
took
and
there's
not
very
many
alleys
that
we're
doing
on
this
map
here,
it's
a
handful
right.
So
if
we
were
to
able
to
think
of
okay,
let's
come
up
with
a
pilot
that
we
could
test,
and
maybe
it's
not
going
to
be
as
durable.
We
don't
know
I
know,
there's
always
questions
about
it.
Whenever
I've
asked
about
permeable
surfaces
for
driveways
and
what
we
allow
and
don't
and
where
we
go,
but
there
could
be
opportunities,
I
know,
at
least
in
the
second
Ward.
D
B
Chair,
remember,
Gordon
and
I.
We
are
committed
to
piloting
a
number
of
projects.
This
is
not
a
pilot
that
we
have
currently
looked
at
as
we
have
been
selecting
our
stormwater
management
projects
in
areas,
and
they
are
pilots
in
areas
where
we
have
existing
partnerships
where
we
can
leverage
external
dollars
to
our
own
and
where
we
have
our
biggest
problems.
It's
not
to
say
that
alleys
don't
have
their
issues,
but
our
selection
of
pilot
programs
for
stormwater
management
have
been
focused
on
where
we
can
see
the
greatest
results.
We
do
have
additional
information.
B
I
Mr.
chair
council,
member
garden,
Lisa
cerny
city,
engineer,
deputy
director
of
Public,
Works
you're,
asking
really
great
questions,
and
actually
director
Hutchinson
explained
a
lot
of
them.
There
are
very
technical
or
I
should
say
technical
considerations
in
all
of
our
hard
surfaces,
understanding
the
vehicles
that
drive
on
them
understanding.
What's
underneath
them
understanding
what
we
put
in,
how
do
we
maintain
it?
How
do
we
access
it?
What
type
of
equipment
do
we
need?
G
You
director,
mr.
chair
councilmember,
remember
this
program
is
about
resurfacing.
We
can
look
at
at
storm
water
mitigation
on
alley,
reconstruction
programs
when
we
take
the
whole
alley
up
and
rebuild
it,
so
it
wouldn't
really
be
appropriate
for
this
program,
but
we
can
do
it
in
some
in
some
of
the
reconstructions
in
our
unpaved
alley
program,
I.
D
A
And
I'll
just
note
in
places
where
we
have
done
pilots,
the
the
underscore
that
staff
has
shared
is
the
notation
of
partnerships,
and
these
aren't
just
sort
of
technical
partners.
These
are
cost
participants,
and
so
it's
not
just
the
implementation
of
the
BMP.
It's
the
maintenance
of
the
BMP
to
make
it
effective
over
time
and
oftentimes
we're
talking
about
three
year,
maybe
five
year
cycles
on
save
just
the
paver
treatment
just
to
keep
it
working.
Otherwise,
it's
oils
over
and
it's
not
doing
anything
different
than
the
standard
service.
So
all
considerations
were
moving
forward.
J
J
I
think
that
we
have
that
balance
in
place
right
now
or
could
get
to
that,
especially
by
leveraging
outside
dollars.
As
director
Hutchison
mentioned,
and
hope
that
we
can
move
forward
with
that
in
earnest.
It
would
be
great
to
say
that
we
have
a
plan
in
place
to
really
phase
out
impermeable
surface
alleys
over
the
decades
to
come.
A
Okay,
so
we
have
we
continuing
item
three.
Now
we
can
move
to
item
four
I
believe
unless
there's
any
more
commentary
on
the
alleys,
it's
good
to
highlight
infrastructure
at
any
opportunity
and
I
think
we
did
that
today.
Item
four
is
the
34th
Avenue
south
of
58th
Street,
south
east
to
east
Minnehaha,
Parkway
Street
reconstruction
project
director
hutchinson,
mr.
B
A
K
Good
morning,
mr.
chair
committee,
members,
my
name
is
Chris
angleman
I
am
a
project
engineer
with
the
transportation,
engineering
and
design
division
of
Public
Works.
Today,
I
am
presenting
for
the
public
hearing
for
34th
Avenue
South
Street
reconstruction
project,
City
project
number,
6,
753,
also
known
as
CPV
o
87.
K
The
proposed
project
consists
of
reconstructing
34th
Avenue
south
from
58th
Street
East
East
Minnehaha
Parkway,
the
elements
included
in
the
full
removal
of
the
existing
roadway
new
pavement
new,
curbing
gutter
and
bump-out
treatments.
The
project
also
include
planted
boulevards
with
trees,
street
lighting,
new
signage
and
pavement
markings
and
a
new
storm
and
sanitary
mains
in
the
area
56
to
58
Street
East.
The
total
project
cost
is
ten
point:
eight
million
the
Street
reconstruction
assessment
is
1
million.
Four
hundred
and
thirty
six
thousand
two
hundred
thirty-five
dollars
based
on
the
2018
uniform
assessment
rates.
K
The
project
also
has
funding
in
the
form
of
net
debt
bonds
in
the
amount
of
540
thousand
dollars
cash
transfers
in
two
point:
seven
to
five
million
dollars
and
municipal
state
aid.
In
the
amount
of
five
point,
three
three
million
dollars
also
the
storm
sewer
and
sanitary
sewer
funding.
Four
hundred.
Ninety
thousand
dollars
for
storm
sewer
and
$920,000
for
sanitary
sewer
staff
has
conducted
numerous
outreach
activities
through
the
planning,
design
and
design
of
the
project,
including
two
public
meetings.
K
The
City
Council
provided
layout
approval
on
the
project
on
March
14
2017
in
advance
of
today's
public
hearing,
a
staff
hosted
a
pre-assessment
meeting,
provide
and
overview
the
project,
discuss,
plan
improvements
and
answer
questions
as
abel
related
to
the
assessment
method
and
process.
The
meeting
was
held
on
May
31st
and
one
person
attended
the
today
public
source
is
asking
city
council
the
passed
resolutions
ordering
the
work
to
proceed;
dopping
special
assessments
authorizing
the
sale
assessment
bonds
and
the
thorazine
authorizing
abandonment
and
moving
very
ways
in
conflict
with
the
checked.
A
H
Environmental
study
34,000
is
currently
concrete
when
we
got
the
letter,
it
just
said:
there'd
be
a
reconstruction
and
it
didn't
say
at
the
imagery.
Do
it
didn't
say
we
were
going
to
decide
what
type
of
surface
it
would
be.
We
didn't
say
it
was
gonna
change.
The
look
of
the
road,
so
I
know
for
a
lot
of
people.
We
just
assumed
it
would
be
taken
care
of,
and
then
it
turns
out
that
they
changed
the
surface
type
from
concrete
to
asphalt.
They
change
the
side
of
the
street.
H
You
know
so
a
lot
of
us
I
own
Nokomis
hardware,
on
34th,
Avenue,
South,
so
I
get
to
talk
to
a
lot
of
people
who
live
in
the
neighborhood
and
I
know
their
studies,
because
I
showed
up.
It
was
the
only
one
and
there's
probably
the
only
one,
because
a
lot
of
people
think
that
doesn't
matter
what
we
say
because
there's
been
some
input
that
we
want
concrete
again,
because
we
know
it
takes
longer
and
there's
more
disruption.
H
So
I
guess
the
one
thing
I
want
to
say
here
is
that
maybe
when
city
letters
go
out,
it
doesn't
just
say
reconstruction
because
to
the
common
person
was
really
busy
with
their
life.
We
just
assume
you're
gonna,
redo
the
road
and
fix
it.
Maybe
it
needs
to
say,
hey
we're
ripping
the
whole
road
up
everything's
up
for
grabs.
H
You
are
going
to
get
a
bill
for
this
because
nobody
understood
that
we
just
assumed
that
that's
what
we
pay
our
taxpayer
dollars
for,
and
we
really
want
your
input.
You
know
that
first
letter
just
said:
reconstruction,
the
rest
we're
busy
we
aren't
going
to
show
up.
Another
thing
I'd
really
like
to
see
is
that
when
we
redo
stuff
with
asphalt,
what
are
the
options?
Because
I
know
about
the
permeable
alley?
And
that
sounds
so
cool
and
a
lot
of
us
are
willing
to
pay
more
for
concrete,
because
we
know
it's
going
to
last
longer.
H
Clear
communication
say:
you
know
this
isn't
just
a
road
reconstruction
because
we
don't
usually
live
on
a
street,
so
we
didn't
know
we
were
gonna,
get
a
big
bill
for
this.
We
thought
hey.
This
is
a
common
busy
street
and
then
all
of
a
sudden,
now
there's
this
big
bill
and
a
lot
of
us
didn't
show
up
because.
D
H
A
Points
well
made
and
we
will
address
them,
presuming
there's
no
other
testimony,
but
I
will
keep
it
open
for
more
testimony.
Anyone
wish
to
come
forward.
Anyone
wish
to
come
forward.
I
see,
none
I
will
close
the
public
hearing.
If
staff
would
address
the
two
questions
before
us,
the
communication
protocol
and
then
what
sort
of
environmental
analysis
goes
into,
our
selection
of
material.
B
A
K
A
K
City,
chair
I,
that's
a
broad
question:
I'm,
diving
into
the
ideas
we
do
send
out
letters
that
present
information
to
the
project,
announcing
the
public,
meaning
offered
offering
the
opportunity
for
input
into
the
roadway
reconstruction
project,
a
variety
of
other
conversations
and
back
and
forth
as
to
what
the
concerns
are,
what
the
potential
desires
are
and
then
try
to
incorporate
a
variety
of
different
stakeholder
groups
and
property
owners
into
that.
So
we
have
the
the
public
meetings
we
work
with
the
neighborhood
groups.
K
A
I
was
just
going
to
say
them
within
that
I
think
there
are
some
insights
in
terms
of
how
the
communications
received
to
the
layperson,
and
so
that's
something.
Perhaps
the
department
and
communications
can
work
on
in
terms
of
having
not
only
clear
and
legally
accurate
information,
but
information
that
resonates
and
insights,
engagements
and.
B
Mr.
Tara
all
speak
to
that,
we
were
always
evolving
the
way
we
communicate
and
when
we
receive
feedback
from
a
community
member.
We
we
want
to
do
better.
We
want
to
take
a
look
at
how
it
was
worded
and
why
it
wasn't
a
compelling
case,
why
I
didn't
invite
people
and
and
and
continually
make
changes
in
how
we
communicate.
We
work
with
a
large
body
of
technical
information
and
it
is
an
ongoing
process
for
us
to
sort
of
D
Technic
by
our
language,
we're
always
working
on
it.
Thank.
L
Morning,
good
morning,
chairman
Wright
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
Paul
Ogrin
I'm
in
charge
of
the
engineering
lab
for
the
city
of
Minneapolis.
From
a
run-off
standpoint,
the
water
goes
into
the
catch
basins
and
the
material
pretty
much
is
it
doesn't
really
matter
in
that
case,
there's
a
lot
of
technical
reasons
on
asphalt
in
the
concrete
on
why
you
would
choose
one
versus
the
other
asphalt
as
a
flexible
payment.
L
Concrete
is
a
rigid
pavement
and
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
technical
reasons
behind
that,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
you
have
a
hard
surface
and
the
water
falls
from
the
heavens
comes
onto
the
street
goes
into
the
catch
basins
and
it
goes
its
merry
way.
We've
had
various
studies.
In
the
past,
we've
been
on
the
forefront
of
doing
some
porous
concrete
in
the
past
in
the
city
of
Minneapolis.
It
has
not
been
successful
in
a
roadway
application
or
a
sidewalk
application,
but
we
continue
to
look
at
new
things
as
they
come
along.
Thank.
A
J
F
A
So
with
that
on
the
public
hearing,
I
was
closed
and
I
will
entertain
any
conversation
or
questions
or
clarifications
for
the
conversation
I'm.
Seeing
none
I'll
move
the
item
before
us
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
I
sent
a
name
that
carries
and
I
believe
we've
concluded
our
agenda
and
thereby
are
adjourned.
Thank
you
very
much.