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From YouTube: April 17, 2018 Transportation & Public Works Committee
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Minneapolis Transportation & Public Works Committee Meeting
A
Good
morning,
I
will
call
this
meeting
to
order.
It's
the
regularly
scheduled
meeting
of
the
transportation
public
works
committee.
This
day,
April
17
2018
I
am
chairing
the
committee
again
councilman
Reich
I'm
joined
by
my
colleagues,
councilmember
Palmisano,
Jonathan,
Fletcher,
Gordon
and
bender.
We
are
a
quorum
and
we'll
proceed
with
today's
agenda
on
today's
agenda.
We
have
17
items,
many
of
which
are
in
consent.
A
I
will
note
that
we
will
be
postponing
item
17,
which
is
the
discussion
item
as
that's
a
contract
that
there
are
some
last-minute
further
refinements
that
will
be
necessary
and
we
feel
that
it
most
appropriate
to
have
it
well
baked
and
ready
to
go
for
presentation,
but
there
will
be
as
a
related
action
that
we
will
be
carrying
forward
with,
which
is
the
foundational
action
with
the
bike
sharing
ordinance,
which
has
to
be
in
place
before
anything
else
can
be
amended.
I
will
go
through
the
items
on
consent.
A
I
note
that
we
will
be
pulling
item
14
for
further
discussion,
so
staff
be
prepared
for
that
questioning
from
committee
member
item.
6
is
the
Minneapolis
stormwater
management
program
annual
report
item
7
is
the
large
event
and
amplified
sound
permit
for
Ninja
Warrior
May
19th
through
the
28th
item.
A
8
is
the
agreement
with
the
Minnesota
Department
transportation
for
landscape
improvements
at
Henley,
lyndale
split
at
the
Dunwiddie
boulevard
item
9
is
a
Minnesota
green
Corps
program,
application
to
host
green
Corps
members
or
2018
or
2019
program
year
item
10
is
the
PV
Plaza
or
Christopher
Hall
park,
use
restriction,
removal
and
easement
agreement
item.
11
is
a
bid
for
old,
Bassett
Creek
sediment
removal
project
item
12
is
a
bid
for
gray
black
colored
class-a
aggregate
item
13.
It's
a
bid
for
Bassitt
Creek
main
stem
stabilization
project.
14
will
call
item.
A
15
is
the
bid
for
Emerson
and
Fremont
bicycle
pedestrian,
proven
project
and
item
16
is
a
bid
for
Hennepin
Avenue
style.
Street
reconstruction
project
will
be
point.
14.
Does
committee
wish
to
pull
any
other
items
seeing
none
I
will
move
all
items
14
all
in
favor,
say
aye
I
sent
in
a
legal
now
Poe
14
for
discussion,
I,
look
forward
to
councilmember
Fletcher.
C
B
You
very
much
and
and
I
just
want
to
say,
I'm,
not
necessarily
pulling
this
because
I
think
it's
a
bad
idea,
but
I
think
it's
it's
good
for
the
city
enterprise
as
in
general,
to
get
in
the
practice
of
publicly
discussing
surveillance
items
as
they
come
up
so
that
people
understand
how
and
with
what
technology
they're
being
watched.
So,
if
I
could
just
ask
a
few
questions
about
how
this
proposal
is,
gonna
have
an
impact
or.
D
C
Is
replacing
existing
cameras?
These
cameras
are
older
cameras,
a
lot
of
black
and
white
ones,
and
ones
that
are
not
doing
a
good
job,
so
these
replaced
with
newer
technology
about
less
than
less
than
1%.
There's
a
total
of
1200
cameras.
Less
than
1%
of
those
are
new
cameras
and
they're
to
fill
voids.
Where
we've,
we
did
a
study
around
all
of
the
16
parking
ramps
that
the
city
runs
and
found
some
spots
that
were
being
covered,
so
these
are
to
fill
in
those
voids
and
who
has
access
to
and
monitors
the
video
feed.
C
We
have
a
security
center,
so
there
is
one
security
center
that
has
a
lot
of
monitors
in
it.
It
has
professional
security
staff
hired
by
the
city
of
Minneapolis
to
run
our
ramps
and
there
they're
the
ones
the
only
well,
the
only
ones
that
monitor
those.
As
far
as
the
city's
concerns
some
of
some
buildings,
like
the
Federal
Building,
we
share
with
the
feds
and
they
will
also
get
feeds
to
those
cameras
as
well
is.
B
C
C
B
C
C
C
Retention
period
for
the
new
cameras
is,
it
hasn't
been
decided
yet
the
old
cameras,
it's
anywhere
from
2
weeks
to
6
weeks,
and
because
we
as
we
build
the
system,
the
ramps
were
built
at
different
times
and
the
functionality
can
completely
change.
So
we're
looking
at
a
retention
period
of
somewhere
between
two
weeks
and
30
days.
Basically,.
B
Okay
and
that'll
be
some
kind
of
written,
enforceable
policy
once
thank
you
and
are
these
being
used
in
conjunction
with
either
license
plate
scanning
or
facial
recognition
technology,
or
has
there
been
a
discussion
about
the
potential
to
implement
those
technologies
as
a
part
of
this
surveillance
system
in
the
future?
The.
C
Goal
of
this
project
is
just
to
replace
the
existing
cameras
and
you
know
for
the
safety
and
concern
of
the
public
using
a
parking
ramp,
so
those
haven't
been
discussed
and-
and
we
have
no
intention
of
using
those
at
this
time-
okay,
those
different
license,
plate
recognition
or
facial
recognition,
or
anything
like
that.
Okay,
great
thank.
B
You
very
much
I
think
that's
all
of
my
questions
and
I
certainly
think
that
there's
a
public
benefit
to
having
security
coverage
of
the
parking
ramps.
I
know
that
scenario
that
people
have
expressed
concern
about
and
appreciate
you
putting
some
thought
into
this
and
me
answering
these
questions
today.
E
You
mr.
chair
well,
I
have
staff
up
to
answer.
Questions
on
this
I
know
that
previously
there
were
concerns
around
the
sourcing
of
a
product
called
hikvision
for
these
camera
placements.
It
was
cameras
that
are
owned
by
the
Chinese
government,
which
have
serious
cyber
security
flaws
that
the
FBI
put
a
warning
out
about
specifically
with
this
acceptance
of
this
bid.
I'm
wondering
is
the
actual
source
product
still
vision
that
Public
Works
was
looking
at
or
that
we're
expecting
to
be
installed,
or
has
that
shifted
away
to
a
different
end
product.
C
E
A
Other
questions:
well,
we
have
staff
I,
see
none.
Thank
you
for
those
clarifying
inquiries
and
I
will
move
the
item
before
us
item
14,
which
is
the
acceptance
of
a
bid
from
Minneapolis,
Park
and
surveillance
project.
Is
there
any
further
discussion
seeing
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye
I
sent
a
name
that
item
carries
and
we
can
move
to
the
public
hearing
section
of
our
agenda
good
morning,
deputy
director,
good.
F
F
D
Am
here
today
to
present
to
you
for
public
hearings
and
the
request
to
approve
passage
of
resolution
for
those
four
public
hearings?
First
public
hearing
I'm
here
to
discuss
with
you
is
the
40th
Street
West
resurfacing
project
and
to
request
the
passage
of
a
resolution
ordering
the
work
to
proceed
in
adopting
special
assessments
in
the
amount,
a
twenty
nine
thousand
nine
hundred
and
seventeen
in
66
cents.
D
In
the
passage
of
a
resolution
requesting
the
board
of
estimation
and
Taxation
boys,
the
city
issuance
of
sale
and
of
assessment
bonds
in
the
amount
of
twenty
nine
thousand
nine
hundred
and
twenty
dollars
for
the
40th
Street
West
resurfacing
project
40th
Street
was
built
in
1980
and
it
has
a
current
PCI
of
65.
The
engineer's
estimate
for
all
of
the
work
for
this
year
is
8.3
million
dollars
for
the
work.
The
approximate
length
of
40
Street
West
is
26
miles.
D
The
whole
scope
will
work
as
a
mill
and
overlay
there
currently
is
no
utility
work
planned
for
the
work,
and
there
is
a
bike
lane
improvements
along
this
section
of
roadway
public
works,
hosted
a
community
meeting
on
February
7th
and
a
pre
public
meeting
with
the
affected
property
owners.
37
invitations
were
mailed
out
with
one
attendee
in
attendance
on
our
April
11th
reading,
which
was
scheduled
at
the
lyndale
farmstead.
The
project
was
designated
on
at
this
committee
on
February
9th
and
we
are
requesting
the
passage
of
these
resolutions.
D
A
You
any
questions:
/
the
presentation
by
staff,
seeing
none
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
for
item
1,
the
40th
Street
West
to
be
servicing
project.
Anyone
signed
in
clerk
indicates
no
one
signed
in.
Does
anyone
wish
to
come
forward
to
make
comment?
Does
anyone
wish
to
make
comment?
Seeing
none
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
move
the
item
before
us
all
in
favor,
say
aye
centi
name
that
carries
and
we
can
now
move
to
item
2.
D
Thirty,
two
thousand
nine
hundred
and
seventy
five
dollars
for
the
emerson
north
resurfacing
project
emerson,
avenue
north
was
originally
built
in
1983
with
a
current
PCI
of
66.
The
estimated
cost
for
all
of
the
resurfacing
work
for
this
year
is
8.3
million
dollars,
and
the
approximate
length
of
Emerson
Avenue
is
one-half
mile.
The
project
scope
is
a
two
inch
mill
and
overlay
with
approximately
1,000
feet
of
existing
curb
and
gutter
replacement.
Presently
there
is
no
utility
work
planned
and
there
are
new
bike
lanes
proposed.
D
A
Are
there
any
questions?
/,
this
presentation
see,
none
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
no
one
has
signed
in.
Does
anyone
wish
to
come
forward?
Anyone
wish
to
come
forward
and
give
testimony
seeing
none
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
move
the
item
before
us
item
2
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
I
consent,
a
name
that
carries.
We
can
go
to
item
3
I,
which
I
believe
we
have
mister
Matsumoto's
presentation.
D
D
The
estimated
cost
for
all
of
the
resurfacing
work
for
this
year
is
8.3
million
dollars,
and
the
approximate
length
of
24th,
Street,
East
and
West
is
1.05
miles.
The
present
scope
of
work
is
to
do
a
two
inch
mail
and
overlay
with
approximately
500
feet
of
existing
curb
and
gutter
replacement.
Presently
there
is
no
utility
work
plan
and
there
are
proposed
two
new
bike
lanes
on
24th
Street
public
works
hosted
a
community
meeting
on
Monday,
April,
3rd
and
April
9th,
with
146
invitations
mailed,
and
only
two
attendees
attending
the
April
9th
meeting.
A
You
any
questions,
/
the
staff
presentation
of
this
project.
I
see,
none
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
no
one
has
signed
in.
Does
anyone
wish
to
come
forward?
Anyone
wish
to
come
forward
to
your
comment.
Seeing
none
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
move
the
item
before
us.
Is
there
any
further
discussion
from
committee,
seeing
none
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
sent
a
name
that
carries
final
Road
public
hearing.
D
Committee
committee
chair
members
of
the
committee,
this
is
the
lyndale
Whittier
residential
resurfacing
public
hearing
and
the
final
of
four
public
hearings
fir
this
morning.
I
am
here
to
recommend
the
passage
of
a
resolution
ordering
the
work
to
proceed
and
adopting
special
assessments
in
the
amount
of
1
million,
eight
hundred
and
seventeen
thousand
five
hundred
and
fifty
eight
dollars
and
seventy
four
cents
for
the
LenDale
in
Whittier
South
residential
areas
and
the
passage
of
a
resolution
requesting
the
Board
of
estimation
and
Taxation
authorized.
D
The
history
behind
these
two
programs
is
that
in
in
nineteen,
seventy
six
Lindale
residential
area
was
paved
out,
but
with
a
current
BCI
of
55
in
nineteen,
eighty-three
Whittier
residential
was
paved
with
a
current
PCI
of
fifty-six.
The
current
estimated
cost
for
the
resurfacing
work
for
this
year
is
eight
point:
three
million
dollars
the
approximate
length
of
both
combined
residential
areas.
Eight
is
eight
point
two
six
miles.
The
project
scope
is
a
two
inch
mill
and
overlay
with
approximately
3,700
feet
of
existing
curb
the
replacement.
D
Centerpoint
Energy
has
indicated
that
they
do
have
small
gas
main
and
service
replacements
in
many
of
the
areas,
and
there
is
no
other
plan
work
for
these
two
areas.
Public
Works
hosted
a
community
meeting
on
Monday
April
4th
and
April
12th
with
100
with
1610
invitations
mailed.
There
were
a
total
of
three
attendees
who
came
to
the
April
fourth
and
13
attendees,
who
came
to
the
April
12th
meeting
to
discuss
the
scope
of
work
of
the
project.
The
project
was
designated
at
this
committee
on
February
9th
of
2018
any.
A
I'm
sure
that
could
be
you
modified
down
the
road.
Thank
you,
okay,
thank
you
with
that.
I
will
put
any
other
questions
and
then
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
for
item
for
glendale
Whittier
South
residential
area
street
resurfacing
any
one
sign
in
no
one
signed
in
the
same
it
was
to
come
forward.
Anyone
wish
to
come
forward
to
comment
seeing
none
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
move
the
item
as
submitted
with
the
one
little
color
coding,
notation,
Thank,.
G
You
mr.
chair
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
we
got
a
couple
of
comments
from
my
constituents
and
the
Whittier
portion
of
this
project
that
had
a
lot
of
interest
in
a
DA
accessibility
upgrades
in
the
neighborhood
and
we've
been
able
to
get
some
of
those
done
along
Franklin
Avenue
as
councilmember
like
knows
this
neighborhood.
Well,
it's
a
you
know:
it's
an
older
part
of
the
city.
G
So,
while
those
kinds
of
upgrades
are
outside
the
scope
of
this
resurfacing
project,
we
were
able
to
connect
the
constituents
to
our
staff
for
managing
the
ADA
accessibility
program,
and
you
know
I'm
I'm
just
wanted
to
highlight
that,
because
I
think
this
work
that
we're
doing
to
upgrade
our
ramps
is
so
important.
You
know
for
folks
who
have
mobility
issues
as
well
as
just
the
greater
population.
A
H
Good
morning,
good
morning,
mr.
chair
and
councilmembers,
my
name
is
John.
Norris,
director
of
traffic
and
parking
services
for
the
city
before
you
today
for
public
hearing
is
passage
of
an
ordinance
amending
Title
18
and
in
Chapter
490
related
to
bike
sharing
elements,
and
maybe
just
a
little
bit
of
overview
on
the
item
this
includes
today.
Our
operation,
which
is
a
docked
bike
share
system,
also
is
contemplating
the
aspects
of
dhoklas
bike
share
in
the
city.
H
It
does
basically
three
things
it.
What
bike
sharing
is
both
in
a
docked
in
a
traditional
docked
model,
as
well
as
the
dock,
the
dock
less
model.
It
also
puts
forth
requirement
in
order
to
have
bike,
sharing
and
use
the
right
of
way.
There
needs
to
be
an
agreement
with
the
city
to
to
use
that
right
away,
and
then,
thirdly,
it
it
propagates
some
bike,
sharing
regulations
on
how
things
may
operate.
H
So
that's
the
additional
element
to
this
ordinance,
the
the
the
remaining
articles,
one
two
and
three-
have
all
been
updated
to
be
in
alignment
with
what
we
just
added
relative
to
article
four.
Likewise,
we
found
some
inconsistency
or
some
outdated
elements
in
those
articles,
one
two
and
three
that
we
have
also
updated.
So
with
that,
mr.
chair
and
council
member,
that's
kind
of
a
summary
of
this
ordinance
and
report
any
comments
or
items
that
come
forward
in
the
public
hearing,
good
Jordan.
H
H
J
I
Language
said
you
had
to
secure
a
permit
from
the
office
of
the
mayor
and
I.
Don't
think
the
mayor's
office
does
permitting
of
anything
anymore
and
it
did
say
a
proper
permit.
So
maybe
I
suppose
if
people
can
can
ask
about
their
event
and
will
say
no
permit
is
required
and
then
they
won't
have
to
have
one
I
guess
we'll
leave
it
for
now.
Thanks.
A
Yeah
thanks
for
that
clarification,
and
perhaps
you
know
creating
some
guideline
for
staff
when
they
have
to
review
what
is
it
isn't,
could
be
useful
for
practical
purposes
moving
forward.
So
with
that
there's
no
further
questions
for
the
presentation.
I
will
open
the
public
hearing.
This
is
item
five
regulation
of
bicycle
sharing,
ordinance,
rewrite
and
I
will
go
in
order
of
people
who
signed
in
starting
with
mr.
Ethan
Polly.
Please
come
forward
state
your
name
and
address
for
a
chair.
K
Right
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
Ethan
folly:
I'm
the
executive
director
of
our
streets,
Minneapolis,
we
use
our
Street
supports
the
proposed
ordinance
change.
I
do
want
to
note
a
couple
things
for
you
all
specifically
in
the
ordinance
changed
before
you
you'll
see
that
something
is
not
being
changed.
We
want
to
draw
attention
to
in
that
section:
4
9,
0.14,
zero
and
where
it
says
no
person
shall
ride
a
bicycle
on
a
sidewalk
within
a
business
district
or
upon
any
sidewalk
were
prohibited
by
appropriate
signage.
Now,
I
would
ask
anyone.
K
I
would
challenge
that.
No
one
here
can
define
a
business
district
and
that
probably
no
one
enforcing
this
ordinance
can
define
a
business
district.
It
is
defined
in
state
statute,
I,
looked
it
up
it.
A
business
district
means
the
territory
continuous
to
and
including
a
highway
where
50,
when
50%
or
more
of
the
frontage
they're
on
for
a
distance
of
300
feet
or
more,
is
occupied
by
buildings
and
use
for
business.
K
Okay.
So,
having
heard
that,
I
would
still
suggest
that
there
is
a
lot
of
ambiguity
in
our
city
on
what
is
a
business
district
now,
probably
somewhere
that
is
defined.
But
I
would
really
question
that
the
average
person
in
our
community
when
traveling
our
city
knows
when
they
are
in
a
business
district
or
not.
K
There
are
areas
where
we
do
mark
on
sidewalks
that
it's
illegal
to
bike,
but
that's
actually
very
rare
and
I
think
further
complicates
people's
understanding
of
where
it
would
be
illegal
and
not
legal
to
ride
on
the
bike.
Ride.
A
bike
on
the
sidewalk
and
I
recognize
that
this
is
a
complicated
issue
where
we're
balancing
pedestrian
and
bicycle
safety.
Well,
with
also
the
recognition
that
the
way
that
we
have
enforced,
this
ordinance
is
has
probably
traditionally
been
inequitable,
and
so
we
did
a
study,
a
police
citation
report
a
couple
years
ago.
K
One
of
the
things
that
we
found
is
while
we
don't
have
data
for
everyone
who
was
cited
for
riding
a
bicycle
on
the
sidewalk
of
those
that
led
to
a
police
report
more
than
65
percent
or
african-american
men.
Now
it
is
not
true
I,
don't
think
anyone
can
say
that
65
%
of
people
bicycling
on
sidewalks
in
commercial
districts.
However,
we
wanted
to
find
that
our
african-american
men,
and
so
it
we
don't,
we
can't
say
definitively
but
I-
think
that
there's
something
concerning
there
and
and
I
think
that
we
had
as
a
city.
K
K
Now
we
can
argue
whether
people
should
be
riding
on
the
sidewalk,
but
if
there's
no
signage
or
anything
saying
that
you
shouldn't
or
it's
illegal
yet
we
have
ticketed
a
lot
of
people
and
some
of
those
have
led
to
police,
Escalade
or
police
escalation
and
and
police
reports.
So
that's
concerning
for
us.
We
hope
that
the
city
will
take
a
look
at
that
and
and
make
some
changes
to
make
that
clear
to
the
issue
of
dhoklas
bike
share.
More
generally,
we,
as
we
said
we
support
the
changes
here.
K
They
set
up
smartly
for
the
city
to
be
able
to
license
bike
share
providers,
as
you
know,
and
they
currently
have
a
an
agreement
with
nice
ride
to
provide
bike
chef
service,
a
nice
ride,
son,
a
great
job,
our
streets
minneapolis
supports
a
continued
exclusive
relationship
with
nice.
Ride
Minnesota
for
$4
bike
share.
We
do
so
exclusivity
is
an
important
point
here.
We
do
support
exclusivity
and
I
think
there
are
a
number
of
factors.
K
Why-
and
this
is
let
me
just
be
honest,
though,
that
this
is
fairly
unique
in
in
the
US
will
be
I
want
to
give
a
lot
of
credit
to
nice
ride
for
bringing
this
forward.
I
want
to
give
a
lot
of
credit
for
city
staff
for
the
work
that
they've
done
it
on
this
I
think
it's
really
thoughtful
and
valuable
and
I
think
exclusivity
provides
the
best
potential
for
us
to
maximize
the
public
good
of
dhoklas
bike
share.
K
But
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
city
is
holding
strong
to
getting
something
really
good
in
exchange
for
exclusivity
around
equity
pieces
and
clarifying
that,
because
it's
not
very
clear
what
that
means
in
the
current
language.
I
also
note
that
we
have
a
bit
of
concern
that
we're
locking
in
with
virtual
stations
as
the
model
for
serving
parking
of
bike
share
bikes
throughout
the
service
area
for
the
next
three
years.
This.
K
How
we're
managing
bike
sharing
is
changing
rapidly
and
we're
still
learning
a
lot,
and
this
pilot
period
is
is
a
really
good
idea
and
there's
a
lot
of
really
smart
thinking.
That
goes
into
the
virtual
station
concept.
That's
included
as
part
of
the
amended
contract,
but
I
think
it's
a
little
bit
limiting
to
say
that
that's
the
only
way
that
we
can
provide
access
to
bike
share
bikes
while
maintaining
a
safe
and
accessible
sidewalk
and
public
right-of-way.
K
We
think
that
there
should
be
a
little
bit
of
flexibility
provided
to
be
able
to
try
different
things
and
and
work
with
between
city
staff
and
nice
ride
on
how
that
looks,
rather
than
locking
in
to
say
this
is
the
only
way
for
the
next
three
years,
unless
we
come
back
to
council
that
we
can
provide
access
to
two
dhoklas
bike
share
bikes.
So
those
are
our
comments
around
the
the
ordinance
I.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you.
J
Good
morning
councilman
to
remember
right
and
councilmembers.
Thank
you
just
a
couple
of
brief
comments.
First,
I
want
to
say
that
nice
ride
Minnesota
supports
this
ordinance,
changed
and
I
want
to
say.
Thank
you.
Thanks
to
the
council
or
eight
years
ago,
really
taken
a
chance
on
us.
I
think
that
what
we're
seeing
around
the
world
a
little
bit
of
comebacks,
comes
back
to
what
started
here
in
Minnesota,
so
there
are
50
nonprofits
in
North
America
that
followed
the
model
that
this
council
set
in
motion
nine
years
ago.
J
Yes-
and
thank
you
for
that,
but
I
also
really
want
to
thank
staff
acting
proactively
in
an
industry.
That's
changing!
This
fast
is
really
hard.
I
know
that,
because
I'm
talking
to
my
counterparts
in
other
cities
and
what
I'm
hearing
is,
your
staff
is
also
talking
to
them
and
they're
coming
to
our
public
meetings
and
paying
attention
to
all
the
changes
that
are
happening
and
bringing
forward
I.
Think
a
good
ordinance,
proactively.
I.
Think
that's
terrific
I!
Don't
want
to
thank
them
for
doing
that.
A
G
J
We
saw
a
lot
of
investment
in
what
we
call
better
bike
share.
Philadelphia
was
really
a
leader
in
that,
and
the
better
bike
share
partnership
grew
out
of
that.
Nice
ride
participated
that
in
a
lot
of
ways,
including
launching
our
nice
ride,
neighborhood
program,
I,
think
we
have
learned
a
whole
lot
about
how
to
make
bike
share
work
for
everybody
in
that
there
are
different
interventions
that
are
needed
in
neighborhoods.
That
may
be
less
inclined
for
a
towards
active
living
and
the
neck
would
be
for
lots
of
reasons.
So
we've
learned
those
best
practices.
J
G
Where
we've
been
able
to
work
together
to
again
meet.
You
know
all
kinds
of
shared
goals
that
a
public
entity
like
the
city
and
a
non-profit
and
any
like
nice
ride
can
can
do
together
and
two
more
questions
that
you
kind
of
talked
about
just
now.
One
is
about
the
technology
about
virtual
stations
and
we
have
some
comments
from
our
Bicycle
Advisory
Committee
I
know
you
know
Nick
Mason,
the
chair,
who
sent
us
the
comments
very
well
I
know
he's
been
involved
in
conversations
with
you
guys.
G
Could
you
talk
about
the
technology
around
virtual
stations
and
how
its
evolving
and
some
of
the
you
know
right?
It's
not
perfect.
Yet
right
now
and
what
we
can
expect
in
accuracy
when
someone
is
looking
for
a
bicycle,
how
they
would
know
where
it
is
and
how
we
can
use
that
technology
to
try
to
make
sure
that
there
aren't
bikes
like
all
over
the
sidewalks
in
the
city.
Sure.
J
J
So
maybe
a
little
background
on
Dhokla
spikes,
so
right
now,
there's
really
kind
of
three
possible
approaches.
So
one
is
the
one
that
we've
seen
explode
across
250
cities,
which
is
really
park
anywhere
illegal
and
there's
a
big
problem
with
it
is
that
people
don't
park
just
where
it's
legal
they
park
anywhere.
So
we
have
seen
big
piles
of
bikes
and
bikes
blocking
the
right
of
way.
That's
not
working!
You
can
go
to
Dallas
and
see
that
it's
not
working.
There
are
two
other
models
out
there.
J
One
is
the
lock
to
approach
so
lock
to
something
legal.
There's,
some
challenges
with
that
in
that
it
may
particularly
in
busy
areas,
consume
more
of
your
bike
parking
than
you
want
it
to,
but
it's
also
new.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
examples
of
that.
The
approach,
the
third
approach
and
the
approach
that
we
would
we
are
really
embracing
and
our
would
really
be
leaders
on,
is
what
I
would
call
a
site
planned
designated
parking
zone
approach.
J
J
It
was
tricky
eight
years
ago
when
we
had
to
figure
out
where
to
put
these
bike
share
stations.
I
believe
that
the
contract
that
Public
Works
is
bringing
forward
is
going
to
give
us
the
flexibility
to
do
this
very
well.
We're
gonna
have
to
bring
them
site
plans,
they're,
gonna,
have
to
approve
them
and,
most
importantly,
we're
going
to
do
it
in
a
very
public
way.
J
So
we're
going
to
start
by
hiring
Community
Design
Group
to
do
a
community
engagement
process
and
create
a
set
of
priorities
and
design
goals
for
these
virtual
stations
to
the
technology.
The
challenges
where
you
have
big
buildings,
it's
hard
for
satellites
to
know
exactly
where
something
is
motivate,
is
investing
in
technology
to
make
that
work
better,
not
going
to
get
into
that
detail,
but
that's
one
of
the
strengths
of
their
proposals.
There
were
many,
but
that
was
one
of
them.
J
J
They
both
talk
a
good
game
about
sharing
data,
but
when
you
push
them
for
their
real-time
data,
there
are
some
that
say:
I
will
comply
with
the
international
standard
and
I
will
ask
my
users
to
open
to
sign
something
that
opens
it
up,
so
that
city
planners
can
use
their
trip.
Data
for
planning
purposes.
Motivate.
Does
that
now
and
will
continue
to
do
that
under
the
contract
that
we
will
sign
all
these
new
startups
are
not
doing
that.
J
I
I
The
Dhokla
system
relies
on
smartphone
technology
and
some
kind
of
app
in
order
to
access
the
bicycles,
Catherine
Gordon.
Yes,
that's
correct,
so
they'll
no
longer
be
fob
or
a
key
device
that
communicates
only
with
nice
ride.
It
will
be
an
app
and
information
will
then
be
shared
with
some
other
company.
So.
H
J
J
Correct
it
is
Metropolitan
Council,
but
that's
something
that
yes,
they
have
wanted
for
a
long
time
and
something
that
we're
going
to
now
get
so
we
have
worked
with
the
Met
Council
towards
user
interface,
integration
on
multiple
fronts
for
a
long
time
and
have
made
some
progress
there
and
I
could
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
that.
One
well.
I
That's
fantastic
news:
I
appreciate
that,
so,
when
you're
using
your
go-to
card,
there
wouldn't
be
much
information,
that's
being
trimmed
transmitted
to
the
user,
then
right
or
to
motivate
except
they
know,
who's
got
the
bike.
So
what
about
when
you're,
using
your
app?
How
much
information
then
does
motivate
get
about
you,
and
what
do
they
do?
Is
that
information.
J
So
you
are
correct
that
when
you
use
an
app
or
today
when
you
use
your
key
fob,
our
back-end
knows
where
you
started
your
trip
and
where
you
end
your
trip,
we
do
release
data
that
is
anonymous
so
that
we
don't
tie
a
trip
to
a
user
and
we've
been
doing
that
all
along
and
that
is
kind
of
the
standard
for
how
to
do
this.
We
do
not
use
that
data
for
other
purpose.
Excellent.
J
Motivate
has
always
made
money
from
two
sources,
one
sponsorship,
so
they
have
large
sponsors
in
New
York
in
San,
Francisco,
like
city
bike
and
Ford.
Here
we
have
invited
motivate
to
negotiate
a
new
sponsorship
agreement
with
Blue
Cross
Blue
Cross
has
been
our
title
sponsor
from
the
beginning.
They
are
negotiating
a
title
sponsorship
now
I've
heard
from
both
of
them
that
that
negotiation
is
going
well.
So
that's
one
key
revenue
stream,
the
other
revenue
stream
is
sales
sales
of
memberships
and
trips.
B
Well,
since
I'm
the
one
asking
about
privacy
today,
Oh
councilmember,
Gordon's
questions
around
data
sharing,
is
there
a
data
retention
policy
or
on
how
long
will
maintain
personally
identifying
information
and
I
guess
I'll,
just
I'll
just
say:
I'm
wondering
I
recognized
that
we've
committed
to
not
sort
of
publicly
sharing
that
information.
But
if
government
agencies
were
to
subpoena
a
record
of
everywhere
of
bikes
from
and
to
over
a
period
of
time,
how
long
do
we
have
that
information
in
the
database
so.
B
That
were
in
the
process
of
revising
to
see
if
some
significantly
shorter
period
of
time
might
be
appropriate
for
at
least
personal
identifiable
data
in
relationship
to
data
privacy.
I
understand
the
huge
benefit
to
having
anonymize
data
so
that
we
can
mittigar
out
patterns
and
usage
and
a
lot
of
those
issues,
but
I
would
I
would
caution
about
creating
a
database
about
people's
comings
and
goings.
So.
J
B
Grandma,
thank
you
and
then
one
other
question.
When
I
was
in
DC
recently,
I
think
the
thing
that
people
complained
about
the
most
about
the
dock
was
bike.
Sharing
there
was
bikes
that
were
left
overturned.
It's
unclear
to
me
whether
the
users
were
doing
that
or
whether
they're
getting
knocked
over
by
the
wind
or
whatever
else,
but
I'm
wondering.
J
Thank
You
councilmember
the
answer
that
is
they're
working
on
it,
so
I
am
not
aware
of
anyone
who
has
that
technology
on
the
bike,
but
we
recognize
that
that's
part
of
order
in
the
right-of-way
and
we
want
to
solve
that
problem,
and
there
is
an
education
part
of
that.
There
is
a
good
site
plan,
part
of
that
and
there's
a
technology
side
of
that
and
we're
gonna
work
on
all
of
those.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
L
L
We
are
now
entering
an
uncharted
territory,
as
we've
been
listening
this
morning
as
we
transition
to
a
new
dynamic
system,
I
support
the
amendment
to
the
bicycle
coordinates,
but
I
do
want
to
make
these
comments
with
the
transition.
Two
main
points
here,
I
strongly
support
the
plan
to
continue
working
exclusively
with
nice
ride.
There
are
many
benefits
this
a
arrangement
such
as
dealing
only
with
one
entity
to
work
out
inevitable
issues
that
will
arise,
but
I
am
concerned.
L
A
I
Just
had
a
question
because
we
talked
a
lot
about
exclusivity,
but
when
I
read
the
ordinance,
the
ordinance
doesn't
stipulate
any
kind
of
exclusivity
to
anybody.
It
just
talks
about
you
need
a
contract
or
a
license
to
operate
of
our
bike
share.
So
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
when
we
get
to
that
exclusivity
piece,
that's
going
to
be
in
the
contract
that
we're
gonna
yet
be
negotiating
approving
that.
A
I
A
A
Think
council,
president,
put
it
very
succinctly
in
the
place
that
we're
in
and
we're
in
a
place
where
we
can
be
a
little
bit
ahead
of
the
curve
and
start
to
have
some
foundational
work
done
and
then
also
some
great
detailed
conversation
that
would
set
us
up
moving
forward
when
we
activate
this
new
generation
of
bike
sharing,
which
I
think
has
a
lot
of
upsides
that
we
that
we
understand
before
us.
But
we
also
know
amazing
challenges.
A
If
you
don't
do
it
right,
I've
been
to
a
couple
of
those
cities
and
I've
seen
the
YouTube
videos
and
it's
anywhere
from
disconcerting
to
just
don't
rate
messy
and
scary,
so
I
think
we're
trying
to
avoid
that,
and
do
it
well
and
I
think
the
commentary
that
we've
had
from
our
advocates
is
spot-on
as
Minneapolis.
We
believe
in
access,
we
believe
in
universal
access
and
how
we
get
there,
of
course,
is
the
work
that
we
have
before
us.
A
A
I
The
notion
of
the
business
district
and
where
you
can't
ride
on
sidewalks
and
not
is
I,
don't
know
that
we
can
take
that
up
today.
Necessarily
but
I
do
know
that
we
talk
about
commercial
corridors,
we
might
have
a
better
divine
city
definition
of
that,
so
we
can
narrow
in
on
that.
I
certainly
have
sympathy,
especially
unconcerned
about
the
equity
issue
and
who
gets
tickets.
Where
do
they
get
tickets?
I
I
think
there
might
be
a
reason
why
we
might
want
to
do
citations
with
it,
but
clearly
it's
an
educational
issue
and
a
signage
issue
and
maybe
there's
some
direction.
We
can
do
around
that
and
if
there's
an
amendment
prepared
today,
I'm
ready
they're,
supported
and
considerate,
but
if
not,
we
still
might
have
time
to
refine
some
language.
Even
if
we
move
forward
with
recommendation
at
the
council,
so
I
just
wanted
to
say,
I'm,
open
and
interested
in
that
issue,
in
particular,
yeah.
A
F
A
And
you
know
the
three
pieces
we
have
to
look
at
or
clarification
of
how
we
define
it
I
think
right
now
we
define
it
through
our
commercial
designation,
but
we
want
to
keep
the
ordinance
somewhat
generic,
because
terminology
changes
over
time.
We
are
doing
a
comp
plan
and
we
are
changing
our
categorical
designation.
So,
for
example,
what
was
industrial
we
proposed
to
be
named,
something
else
so
a
different
word.
So
that's
one
guideline,
but
I
think
the
stronger
point
does
raise
was
education
and
clarity
and
uniform
application.
A
M
Thank
You
mr.
chair
I
do
have
a
question
for
mr.
Burgess
about
the
virtual
stations.
You
know
something
that
I'm
mostly
excited
about
around
this
plan
is
something
that
came
to
us
early
this
morning
and
I
comment
too,
which
is
to
make
bike
chair
financially
viable
and
less
densely
populated
corners
of
the
city.
I
know,
for
example,
the
Lyndhurst
neighborhood
just
got
there
nice
ride
station
last
year
and
they
were
so
excited
about
it
in
places
that
are
less
densely
populated
but
have
great
destinations.
M
Can
you
explain
the
virtual
docking
station
and
I
know?
We've
talked
about,
there's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
them.
I
had
originally
understood
that
it
was
simply
a
portion
of
the
right-of-way,
but
pretty
much
the
right-of-way
everywhere.
Are
you
saying
that
it
is
only
in
certain
corridors?
Or
could
you
just
help
me
define
help
me
understand
where
the
virtual
places
are
to
leave
and
to
pick
up
bicycles
a
little
bit
better
because
they
just
think
there's
some
confusion
and
then
different
kinds
of
feedback
we've
been
getting
mr.
H
H
You
I
think
you
referenced
this
morning
and
and
there's
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
ideas
out
there
on
how
we
can
maybe
do
virtual
stations
in
a
number
of
different
means
and
methods
I'm
still
within
a
framework
that
that
nice
ride
would
continue
to
operate
in
control
and
propose
those
solutions
back
in
a
dialogue
with
the
community.
Okay,.
A
You
thank
you.
I.
Think.
Palmisano
brings
up
a
question
that
anyone
who
represents
in
three
of
us
do
the
far
corners
of
the
city
critically
as
a
Brutes.
Finally
got
theirs
as
they
as
they
put
it
and
as
the
system
grew
out,
it
would
not
shrink
down
and
of
course,
when
it's
virtual
people
say
well
now
that
the
virtual,
why
can't
you
go
to
wait
Park
in
the
far
far
corner
of
the
city,
and
so
those
things
will
be
definitely
pressing
conversation
from
our
constituents?
Thank
you.
I
G
You
mr.
chair,
you
know
I
just
wanted
to
again
highlight
how
much
I
think
we
all
appreciate
the
partnership
with
nice
ride
and
your
openness
to
you
know
even
going
forward
from
today
taking
another
look
at
this
contract,
making
sure
that
the
level
of
specificity
is
there
to
really
codify
in
the
contract.
G
All
of
these
things
that
we've
been
working
on
together
for
a
number
of
years,
around
equity,
around
access
to
the
stations
around
having
a
public
view
on
station
locations
on
having
a
way
to
adjust
as
we
go
forward,
I
think
we
all
appreciate
the
the
way
that
the
current
agreement
phases
in
the
number
of
bikes
that
we'll
be
seeing.
So
we
have
time
to
adjust
as
needed
as
we
go
and
not
have
a
huge
influx
of
bikes
all
at
once
so
and
I
also
just
really
appreciated.
G
All
the
the
you
know
attention
to
detail
from
the
people
who
came
to
speak
today
from
the
Bicycle
Advisory
Committee
and
from
our
streets
and
the
others
who've
engaged
in
this,
so
that
we,
you
know
we
do
as
best
we
can
they
get
it
right.
As
we
start,
this
new
kind
of
adventure
and
bike
sharing
in
Minneapolis
and
again,
you
know,
as
I,
hear
stories
from
other
cities.
I
just
want
to
say
that
we're
really
fortunate
to
have
this
partnership
here.
A
Regulation
of
bicycle
sharing
and
ordinance,
and
the
passage
of
ordinance
amending
Title,
18
chapter
490
of
our
code.
Any
further
discussion
see
none
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
I
sent
a
nay
that
carries
as
we
are
postponing
discussion
item
for
the
next
cycle.
That
concludes
our
agenda
and
we
are
thereby
adjourned.
Thank
you.