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From YouTube: June 20, 2018 Housing Policy & Development Committee
Description
Minneapolis Housing Policy & Development Committee Meeting
A
Good
afternoon
call
to
order
this
meeting
of
the
housing
policy
and
Development
Committee
I'm
LT
member
acam,
Gordon
I'm
sure
the
committee
I'm
joined
so
far
today
by
councilmembers,
Goodman,
Ellison
and
Schrader
were
a
quorum
of
the
committee
and
we
can
conduct
the
committee's
business.
We
do
have
four
items
on
our
agenda
now,
but
I'm
also
going
to
be
moving
a
walk
on
item.
It
isn't
down
the
printed
agenda.
A
B
Chair
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
Casey
Carl,
the
privilege
of
serving
as
a
city
clerk.
This
item
is
being
requested
to
be
added
to
your
agenda.
The
reason
it
didn't
make
the
agendas,
because
I
missed
the
deadline
for
submitting.
So
may
echo
poem
on
my
part.
The
item
is
the
appointment
of
Andrea
Brennan,
who
is
the
housing
director
for
the
city
as
a
member
of
the
housing
family
housing
fund
board,
she
currently
sits
in
the
second
seat,
which
is
appointed
by
the
mayor
and
confirmed
by
the
council,
we'd
like
to
continue
that
appointment.
B
The
mayor
submitted
on
June
5th
his
nomination
to
reappoint
her
to
that
same
seat.
It
requires
the
confirmation
of
the
City
Council
and
so
with
the
chairs
approval.
I
had
asked
to
bring
this
item
forward
so
that
we
could
confirm
her
to
that
term,
which
was
in
retro,
actively
become
effective,
April
1st
and
continue
for
a
three-year
period
through
March
30th
2021,
if
approved.
B
A
You
very
much
I
appreciate
that
and
I
appreciate
it.
Even
the
clerk
sometimes
misses
deadlines.
So
let's
remember
that
when,
if
any
of
us
happen
to
do
that
in
the
future,
sometime
all
right
so
I'm
going
to
move
to
add
that
to
the
agenda
under
the
consent
item,
any
discussion
on
that
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
any
opposed,
say
no.
Okay,
then
I
alone
go
through
the
other
consent
items.
There's
that
one
about
that
appointment
and
then
we
have
three
other
ones.
A
One
is
authorizing
a
two-year
basic
service
agreement
with
a
recording
partners
network
to
provide
some
electronic
transmission
services
for
us,
and
especially
our
real
estate
record
with
Hennepin
County.
A
third
item
is
authorizing
the
city
to
consent
as
a
lessor
and
lender
to
amend
an
existing
Riverside
homes,
housing
project,
ground,
lease
and
easement,
and
the
fourth
item,
which
is
now
the
fourth
consent
item,
is
the
release
of
the
conservation
easement
at
1836,
Irving
Avenue
north
to
any
council
members
want
to
pull
any
of
those
items
off
then.
B
A
No
on
those
four
consent
items
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed,
say
no.
That
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
You're
very
welcome.
Now,
we'll
move
on
to
our
public
hearing
today.
This
is
a
I
won't
open
the
public
hearing,
maybe
first
we'll
get
a
brief
presentation,
but
this
is
the
matter
of
the
ordinance
amendment
actually
to
change
a
ordinance
having
to
do
with
the
condos
on
Blaisdell
housing
improvement
area.
Welcome.
C
C
It's
a
four-story
building
that
was
constructed
in
1959
as
apartments
but
was
converted
to
condo
units
in
2006
they're,
currently,
54
units
in
the
building
and
the
property
is
in
need
of
repairs
and
replacement
of
the
windows
frames,
brick
to
prevent
water
intrusion,
rehabbing
at
the
parking
garage
and
the
parking
deck
above.
The
garage
ventilation.
First
floor,
domestic
water
lives
in
the
air-conditioning.
C
The
engineers
made
it
clear
that
it
repairs
improvements
were
not
undertaking.
The
garage
will
be
structurally
unsafe
in
the
near
future
and
may
not
pass
inspection
and
the
units
that
are
getting
water
will
continue
to
get
water,
thus
causing
mold,
grow.
New
units
and
also
water,
is
getting
behind
the
brick
facade
and
that
may
fall
off
in
the
near
future
and
that's
possibly
condemning
the
building,
and
in
such
case
the
condo
owners
would
need
to
move
out
of
their
units.
C
The
project
cost
now
is
3.7
million,
and
the
Association
has
allocated
these
costs
to
each
of
the
units
based
on
their
ownership
interest
and
the
costs
range
from
assessment
cos
rating
from
thirty-eight
thousand
two
hundred
seventy
six
thousand
per
unit.
Most
of
these
costs
are
between
like
thirty-eight
thousand
and
seventy
six
thousand
there's
one
unit.
That
is
a
penthouse
that
would
be
the
one
hundred
and
seventy
six
thousand.
C
The
Association
was
unable
to
obtain
private
fan
financing
for
the
project
and
when
private,
long-term
financing
options
are
not
available.
Condos
and
townhomes
associations.
In
the
city
of
Minneapolis
can
apply
for
long-term
HIA
financing
by
the
city,
I
kind
of
news
on
Blaisdell
submitted
an
application,
October
2016
and
has
met
all
the
guidelines,
a
minimum
of
criteria
for
the
HIA
policy
attached
to
your
HOA
year
RCA.
C
C
C
When
the
project
is
completed,
the
long-term
general
obligation,
bonds
or
the
Lord
will
be
used
to
pay
off
the
construction
loan
with
northeast
bank
and
the
bonds
will
not
be
will
be
issued
will
not
exceed
3.7
million
in
2019.
The
city
will
impose
the
HOA
fees
on
each
condo
unit
and
fees
will
vary
from
4.4
thousand
six
hundred
to
about
17
thousand
and,
like
I,
said
the
seventeen
thousand
would
be
they.
The
penthouse
most
of
the
other
fees
and
fees
would
be
like
four
thousand
to
like
seventy
six.
C
Seventy
nine
hundred
and
these
will
remain
constant
for
19
years
and
they
will
be
paid,
May,
15th
and
then
the
other
half
we
paid
October
15
when
taxes
are
due.
Hoa
fees
are
not
pre
payable.
When
a
unit
cells,
the
new
owner,
has
a
responsibility
of
paying
the
HOA
fees.
Since
this
report
we
have
had
four
opposition's.
C
D
Members
of
the
committee,
so
when
an
individual
owner
requests
exemption
from
the
HIA,
they
can
only
be
exempted
per
statute.
If
the
council
finds
that
they
that
unit
won't
benefit
from
the
improvements,
so
there
are
three
choices:
one
you
can
accept
the
request
and
exempt
them.
You
can
reject
the
request
for
exemption
or
three.
You
can
reserve
60
days
to
evaluate
the
objection
and
make
a
determination
later.
E
A
Guess
question
after
this
passes:
if,
if
this
passes
the
council
are
there
other
avenues
that
owners
or
association
members
could
follow
if
they
had
concerns
or
issues
about
it,.
C
F
Mr.
chair
council
members,
yes,
the
other
Avenue
that
a
homeowner
can
can
follow
is
that
there
is
a
waiting
period
after
the
ordinance
is
adopted,
but
it
doesn't
become
effective
45
days.
So
during
that
time
period,
if
45
percent
or
more
of
the
homeowners
in
the
HIA
object,
then
the
the
ordinance
and
the
fee
resolution
will
not
become
effective,
so
they'd
have
to.
They
have
to
get
together
with
other
members
of
the
Association
and
oppose
it.
So
that
would
be
their
other
Avenue
and
who.
F
A
A
G
Nobody
thinks
this
is
a
great
deal
for
the
Association.
This
is
the
best
of
the
worst
and
it's
become
very,
very
clear
that
if
the
HIA
is
not
approved,
the
Association
is
potentially
going
into
a
death
spiral.
The
building
is
in
very
poor
condition.
I
have
taken
to
calling
this
the
condo
conversion
from
hell
and
I.
Don't
use
those
words
lightly.
G
There
was
a
very
bad
landlord
Robert
Chrysler.
He
had
the
largest
discrimination
judgment
ever
in
Minnesota
filed
against
him
in
2005
1.1
million,
and
apparently
he
thought
that
by
converting
this
kind
this
this
building
to
a
condominium,
he
could
make
lots
of
money
and
pay
off
the
judgment.
Well,
he
made
lots
of
promises
and
fulfilled.
None
of
them.
2008
came
along
and
things
really
fell.
Apart
from
there.
G
G
Scope
of
work
had
both
must
do
work
and
some
good
to
do
work.
When
bids
came
in
65
percent,
higher
than
had
been
projected,
the
scope
of
work
was
reduced,
largely
to
the
must
do
the
fine
93%
of
the
scope
of
work.
Final
scope
of
work
consists
of
four
areas
of
work:
the
facade
renovation,
renovation
of
the
facade,
replacement
of
windows
and
exterior
doors,
parking
structure,
structure,
renovation
and
the
replacement
of
mechanical
system
components,
including
the
horizontal
main
water
lines
in
the
building,
rooftop
ventilation
units
and
the
laundry
room,
ventilation,
Sode
renovation.
G
G
There
are
sections
of
the
facade
that
are
threatening
that
have
pulled
away,
half
an
inch
or
more
and
are
threatening
to
come
apart.
There
is
rusting
steel,
structural
components
that
are
adding
to
the
problem.
The
air
conditioner
sleeves
water
is
getting
into
them,
bottoms
of
them
have
rusted
out,
and
the
water
is
now
getting
into
the
structures
do
that
as
well
window
in
door
replacement.
The
current
windows
were
installed
in
mid
90s,
low-end
vinyl
maximum
life
20
years.
G
The
windows
have
started
to
fail
in
a
whole
variety
of
ways,
and
even
if
somebody
wanted
to
try
and
salvage
them,
it's
not
credible.
According
to
the
engineers
that
the
facade
work
could
be
done
and
preserve
the
windows.
At
the
same
time,
the
exterior
doors
that
are
being
replaced
need
to
be
replaced.
For
example,
one
of
the
rooftop
exit
doors
is
gotten
to
the
point
where
it
can't
be
open,
which
is
a
serious
life
safety
issue
in
case
of
a
fire.
G
The
parking
structure,
renovation,
structural
engineering
firms,
Walker
consultants
and
encompass
have
both
carefully
evaluated
and
said
that
if
the
work
is
not
done
it
this
year,
it
is
unlikely
that
it
that
it
could
be
certified
for
continued
use
beginning
in
two
19.
You
would
then
have
54
households
trying
to
park
on
us
on
the
streets
in
a
neighborhood
where
street
parking
is
already
an
issue.
G
The
parking
deck
has
a
whole
variety
of
problems.
One
of
the
biggest
is
water
ponds
in
large
areas
is
soaking
into
the
deck
and
once
it's
into
the
deck
it
starts,
rushed
rusting
the
steel
reinforcements
when
things
rust,
they
expand
that
pops.
The
concrete
that
tear
rates
the
structure,
the
underside
of
the
deck,
is
in
very
poor
condition
as
a
result,
and
there
is
at
least
one
part
of
the
garage
wall.
The
garage
is
is
mostly
underground
that
is
threatening
to
buckle
in
replacement
of
the
mechanical
system
components.
G
G
G
Yes,
it
can
be
sold,
yes,
can
be
sold
for
a
reasonable
price.
There
is
a
growing
body
of
data
indicating
that
the
Wellington,
which
was
completed
at
the
end
of
last
year,
another
HIA
project,
similar
level
of
cost
and
fees
per
unit.
A
one-bedroom
is
scheduled
to
close
tomorrow
for
160
pre
prior
to
that
in
the
last
10
years,
the
only
units
at
it
sold
were
two
two
bedrooms,
each
of
them
around
$60,000,
so
a
real
gamechanger,
our
lane
referenced
150
and
180.
We
had
a
large
regional
appraisal
for
firm
Forsythe
appraisal
come
in.
G
They
looked
at
the
scope
of
work.
They
looked
at
the
fees
that
we'd
be
added
to
the
taxes.
They
looked
at
two
sample
units.
They
looked
at
other
units
as
well
and
said
in
their
judgment
and
based
on
the
research
they've
done
of
other
hie
projects.
It
was
credible
that
a
typical
one-bedroom
could
sell
for
150
in
a
typical
two-bedroom
for
180.
A
G
G
G
G
A
J
J
Which
is
a
3.7
million
and
is
you're
gonna
be
paying
additional
five
hundred
forty
three
more
fully
and
I?
Don't
think
we
really
need
a
3.7
me
know
the
reason
why
I'm
saying
that
and
it's
because
they
were
telling
us
that
they
had
to
replace
the
whole
facade
of
the
building
at
the
beginning
and
little
what
up
here
recently
it
just
because
gonna
do
some
cleaning,
repairing
and
painting
and
I
kept
in
like
years
ago,
I
always
asking
them
if
I'm
gonna
go
for
the
project.
J
At
least
I
want
to
see
like
in
the
3d
view
right
how
the
work
thing
gonna
do
look
like
it's
gonna,
be
like
wow,
it's
very
good,
so
we
can
put
our
money
to
it.
We
can
ski
can't
do
it?
Not
anybody
not
ask
loser
image
like
how
it's
going
to
look
like
for
that
reason,
I'm
opposed
to
that,
and
also
or
the
second
reason,
I
drove
a
black
I
believe
this.
J
You
come
on
before
a
different
alternative
and
say:
okay,
we
can
go
for
this
one
to
replace
this
one
like
our
garage
have
some
leaking.
So,
let's
fix
our
damage
fix
and
maybe
after
that
have
different
assessment.
Let's
switch
this
one
face
so
that
people
who
order
bidding
can
stay
there
and
really
enjoy
so
for
me
start
now
they
just
trying
to
get
like
H
hi
egg,
which
is
going
to
be
like
some
money
that
nobody
can
afford.
You
know
people
outside
I
see
how
they
say.
Forty
for
myself
how.
H
J
Vote
going
on
with
a
lot
of
people
say
no
to
that
project
before
the
know
for
sure,
by
the
way
it
grows
from
ten
who
come
to
your
door
knock,
you
mean
knock
your
door
in
time
and
talk
to
you
beg
you
to
sign
all
the
stuff
and
I.
Don't
think
I
said
we're
away
and
they
should
be
doing
that
and
it
was
you
say
no.
J
They
should
leave
them
alone,
instead
of
taking
them
in
trying
to
say
to
say
that
the
building,
so
those
are
the
reason
why
I'm
very
composed
we
can
try
to
fix
stuff
once
at
the
time
like
if
it's
a
garage
fix
it
at
the
time
and
so
okay,
like
did
it
before
in
a
part,
you
have
a
session,
it
official
I
live
euro,
we
did
it.
We
have
assessment
to
fix
the
hearing
we
before
that,
and
they
talking
about
God,
you
can
have
access,
meaning
we
can
be
further.
J
H
J
Have
to
filter
the
garage
and
I
believe
that
you
have
to
fix
the
window,
but
some
of
the
words
I
think
the
Association
had
to
come
and
do
some
so
the
three
point:
seven
million
that
they
asking
for
us.
You
have
to
pay
for
our
pocket.
Please,
let's
exchange,
don't
pay
anything
I,
don't
think!
That's
it!
Thank
you.
Okay,.
F
H
Since
I've
moved
in
I've
seen
a
lot
of
water
issues
throughout
the
building
and
many
many
units,
my
own
windows
are
not
that
great
exterior.
My
my
unit
has
been
kind
of
makeshift
I.
Think
somebody
must
have
like
put
some
caulk
in
the
cracking
of
the
brick
at
some
point
and
that
that's
not
that's
not
working
that
great.
H
H
I
The
amount
of
work
needed
to
be
done
has
been
inflated
and
hence
the
cost
is
inflated.
They
want
to
replace
all
the
windows
and
all
the
doors
in
the
building.
There
are.
A
lot
of
people
are
happy
with
their
windows.
It's
it's
not
necessary.
Something
need
to
be
replaced.
I
wanted
to
cite
the
Falls
in
pinnacle
condominium
that
I
have
the
rejection
letter
from
2017,
signed
by
David
Frank
and
says
there
appear
to
be
other
options
available.
Therefore,
we're
denying
the
HIV
bond.
I
Now
we
have
other
options:
they're
not
open
to
them,
and
basically
they've
tried
to
squelch
any
opposition
to
this
HIA.
Our
lien
says
those
are
only
four
people
that
oppose
I'm
collecting
signatures
this
past
week,
I've
got
seven
I've
got
some
other
people
that
are
afraid
to
sign
in
opposition.
A
lot
of
people
feel
like
they
were
intimidated
into
signing
on
for
the
HIA
bond
and
now
they're
upset,
because
the
costs
have
doubled
from
what
they
were
presented.
I
Initially,
to
sign
it's
gone
from,
you
know,
being
an
extra
two
thousand
a
year
in
taxes
to
being
like
an
extra
four
thousand
a
year
in
taxes
and
people
feel
they
can't
afford
it
now.
Also
I've
talked
to
several
Realtors
who
say
that
these
places
won't
move
with
such
a
huge
debt
hanging
over
them,
and
so
you
know
a
lot
of
people
what's
gonna
happen.
Well,
what
happened?
I
It
falls
in
pinnacle
now,
I
I
know
a
couple
of
people
over
there,
one
of
them's,
a
realtor
who
says
this
is
a
bad
deal
and
what's
happening
over
there.
Now
this
didn't
pass
it.
The
H
I
didn't
pass
at
the
Falls
in
pinnacle,
but
the
first
service
management
company
came
in
and
they
got
a
loan
from
a
Puerto
Rican
bank
for
ten
million
dollars.
I
believe
it
was
now
what's
happening.
I
There
is
there's
a
there's,
an
exodus
going
on
there
everybody's
trying
to
sell
their
units
because
they've
just
they're,
taking
their
losses
and
I'm
afraid.
That's
what's
gonna
happen
here
and
you
know
a
growing
number
of
people
are
afraid.
That's
what's
gonna
happen
and,
let's
see
here,
Doug
strand
is
an
encompass
are
taking
two
hundred
and
seventy
three
thousand
four
hundred
dollars
in
professional
fees
of
which
Doug
gets
sixty
five
thousand.
I
You
know
I
I,
just
think
we
have
other
options
and
you
know
if
they
would
bring
the
costs
down.
I
mean
you
think
you
know
like
I,
say
the
the
amount
of
work
they're
doing
is
inflated,
and
it's
just
it
just
makes
me
suspicious
and
I
just
think
it's
a
bad
deal,
so
I
didn't
craft
as
good
of
a
narrative
as
these
people.
But
that's
my
take
thank.
A
A
L
Afternoon
my
name
is
Sal
Fein
city
I
am
at
the
2500
place
till
Avenue
from
3rd
October
16
and
my
situation
is
that
I
don't
have
any
credit
history,
that's
right
non
bank
he
gave
me
loan
I
went
to
the
owner
of
the
that
one-bedroom
unit.
His
name
is
Fillie.
I
told
my
situation.
He
said,
ok,
I
can
sell
the
house
for
contact.
L
For
date,
then
I
got
this
apartment
on
contact
for
deed
for
five
years,
which
will
be
done
in
October,
2000,
October,
21,
3rd
October,
so
I
paid
twenty
thousand
down
payment
from
my
selling.
My
jewelry
and
I
came
here
and
I'm
paying
every
month
$400
four
more
days
and
three
and
250
for
the
Association
three
$30
for
the
parking.
L
Those
all
money
might
cook
itself.
Giving
me
my
daughter
and
my
son
I,
had
the
bank
documents
everything
they
are
paying
because
I
I
gave
my
life
insurance
to
my
small
younger
son,
and
my
this
house
will
go
to
my
daughter
after
my
did.
I
have
my
my
will
for
that.
So
there
I'm
taking
money
from
them
and
staying
here
and
I,
cannot
take
Liu,
Xie
Cho
a
because
this
house
that
time
all
apartment
with
one
bedroom
was
selling
for
seventy
thousand
less
than
70
thousand.
L
Some
of
them
was
even
sixty
thousand,
but
you
not
told
me
I
have
to
pay
ninety
five
thousand
extra
twenty
five
thousand,
because
I
don't
have
any
credit.
So
I
agreed
for
that
at
time
that
okay
I
will
pay
ninety
five
thousand
at
the
end
of
five
years,
so
I
am
paying
in
that
way
and
if
I
take
another
loan
to
pay.
Forty
four
hundred
forty
eight
dollar
a
month,
I
had
no
way
to
pay
for
that.
My
kids
cannot
give
me
so
much
of
money
for
payment.
So
that's
right.
L
I
want
to
stay
here,
because
I
am
going
to
my
retirement
after
two
years,
I'm
63,
now
after
two
years,
I
work
for
the
school
district.
I
will
get
my
retirement
money
from
there
I
calculate
according
to
that
that
I
can
pay.
I
can
leap.
I
can
survive
with
this
money,
but
now
it
is
really
nightmare
for
me
that
I
am
going
to
lose.
My
house
I
contact
with
my
realtor
that
lady
contact
from
the
Edina
Realty.
L
She
contacted
there,
a
Tony
at
Rabaul,
email
from
them
in
the
attorney
said.
For
me,
it
is
better
to
just
to
ask
mercy
just
to
ask
just
to
request
the
owner
main
owner
Philip
that
he
will
get
rid
of
me
from
the
contact
for
did
so.
I
have
to
go
away,
I'll
not
get
back.
My
twenty
thousand
or
anything
according
to
the
agreement,
I
lose
my
all
money,
I
paid
for
one
and
a
half
year
as
mod
case
I
lose
everything
after
that.
L
Also,
he
can
sue
against
me
that
why
I
am
terminating
from
the
city
from
contact
fatigue.
That
is
another
one
situation.
I
have
all
papers
that
lawyer
from
the
Edina
Realty
is
a
loyal
guy
and
that
isn't
from
the
diner
who
helped
me
to
buy
the
house
and
my
situation.
My
contact
for
did
everything
here.
If
you
guys
can
I.
L
Cannot
go
for
any
more
loan
and
when
I
bought
the
house
in
iterative
line
that
in
the
HIA
is
coming,
he
told
me
when
H
is
coming
then
before
I
bought
the
house.
I
call
the
city
that
what
is
the
hie?
What
will
come?
The
city
told
me
that
time
also,
one
month
ago,
I
called
again
the
same
thing.
They
say
that
this
house
does
not
have
any
problem
except
a
parking
lot
issue
and
my
house
before
I
bought
it
everything.
L
I
checked
with
my
daughter,
helped
me
to
check
with
the
professional
people
windows
flow
rules,
everything
everything
is
in
so
good
condition.
Still
now,
I
gave
up
those
pictures
to
here
in
this
packet
that
from
this
assessment
company
they
does
the
inspection.
That
inspector
also
told
me
I,
don't
need
to
work
so
I
was
happy.
I
am
going
for
determined
with
a
good
apartment.
One-Bedroom
apartment
is
good
for
me,
because
I
am
by
myself,
now
see
the
my
situation.
What
will
happen
today?
I
talk
with
dog
dog.
L
He
told
me
that
after
the
HIA
I
can
sell
this
house
for
hundreds
$60,000
I,
don't
160,000
if
I
get
hundred
25
even
hundred
$20,000.
Now
he
give
me
and
I'll
leave
chuckles
I'm
not
going
to
lose
my
money.
What
I
paid
for
the
mod
case
and
for
that
for
the
down
payment
I
just
want
to
get
that
money
back
I
do
not
160
I,
just
don't
the
money.
I
paid
I
want
that
anion
to
go
away
from
there,
because
it
is
all
lie
to
me.
I
have
no
problem
with
the
window
item.
L
I
have
no
problem
with
the
wall
or
anything.
I
never
complained
against
Trinity,
but
it
was
the
problem.
Once
I
continuous
last
month,
I
complained
about
the
bathtub
water
was
not
in
going
I
called
Association.
They
said
to
call
the
cleaner
I
called
the
cleaner.
The
guy
came
and
I
was
so
stupid.
He
he
just
put
one
button
up
said
that
your
sink
was
blocked.
That's
why
the
water
tinker
even
then
I
paid
$100
to
them.
I
had
no
another
complaint
that
first
company
I
did
without
that
within
one
and
half
year.
L
I
didn't
say
anything
about
the
apartment:
no
water
leaking.
Nothing,
no
window
leaking
my
windows,
a
very
good
accident
condition.
Why
should
I
pay
for
this
decision?
I
can
I
was
thinking
that
okay,
the
city's
telling
hia,
is
coming
with
the
parking
lot.
So
we
are
65.
People
are
here
in
this
apartment.
Maybe
this
65
people
who,
if
we
pay
for
that
parking
lot,
then
it
will
not
raise
my
more
than
hundred
dollar,
maybe
$100
eighteen
years.
L
I
can
finish
this
no,
but
I
didn't
know
that
with
parking
lot,
there
will
be
fancy
cosmetic
surgery
for
the
window
for
the
poor
to
everything
and
those
pictures
you
will
sure
I,
don't
think
everything
is
right
because
who
complain
of
all
those
goofy
sometimes
goes
or
has
fun
what
a
leaking.
Maybe
he
saved
something
even
I
using
anything.
A
L
A
L
M
Chair
I
just
want
to
say
my
my
staff
are
on
their
way
and
all
the
folks
that
live
in
this
building
are
my
constituents.
My
office
would
be
happy
to
follow
up
with
the
woman
who
just
spoke
or
anyone
else
who
needs
our
help
kind
of
beyond
the
scope
of
what
we're
talking
about
here
with
the
loan
decision.
So
my
age
should
be
coming
in
any
second
now,
but
if
not,
anyone
can
also
just
call
my
office
or
speak
to
me
after
the
committee.
Look
if
we
can
be
of
assistance
beyond
this
decision.
Excellent.
N
N
Of
the
flavor,
as
Doug
mentioned,
when
this
was
converted
to
condos,
there
was
financial
issues
that
did
not
put
this
condo
association,
a
good
position
early
on
I
purchased
about
four
years
ago
and
from
day
one
we've
basically
had
zero
reserve
funds.
We've
done
multiple
special
assessments
to
address
major
issues
in
the
building,
and
some
of
those
are
still
ongoing.
Part
of
the
reason
why
we
just
didn't
qualify
for
other
solutions.
I
want
to
sort
of
counter
or
offer
an
alternative
opinion
on
some
of
the
things
that
have
been
said.
N
I
have
not,
and
as
president
and
very
concerned
about
the
suggestion
that
intimidation
has
occurred,
we
have
held
open
meetings,
we've
knocked
on
doors
to
get
people's
opinions,
we've
reached
out
with
letters
and
offer
people
the
chance
to
speak
to
myself
or
other
board
members,
the
Association
manager
Doug
directly.
We
have
been
as
open
as
possible.
Is
that
this
we
don't
take
this
lightly
by
any
means.
This
is
a
lot
of
money
in
many
cases
and
or
not
many
in
some
cases,
it's
comparable
to
what
people
paid
for
their
units.
N
N
We
cannot
go
through
cheaper
options
without
basically
doing
a
high
cost
repair,
resulting
in
no
value
add
to
the
building,
putting
people
both
with
an
H
eye
assessment
and
no
value
improvement
to
the
unit's
we've
had
a
few
and
we
respect
their
opinions,
folks,
who
have
come
out
against
it,
but
the
vast
majority
are
either
for
this
or
when
we
sit
down
with
it
understand
that
we
don't
have
any
other
options
and
have
talked
through
every
possible.
Conceivable
chat
with
this
Bank
come
up
with
this
organization.
N
Talk
to
this
group
and
we
have
just
take
them
all
off
as
best
we
could.
The
city's
opportunity
that
they're
offering
us
seems
to
be
the
best
and
only
route
forward.
At
this
point,
I'm
sorry
I
can't
read
my
notes
completely.
I
there
was
a
mention
of
another
project
that
might
have
had
some
special
financing
offered
to
them.
My
understanding
is
that
first
service
residential
was
mentioned
as
a
management
company.
They
actually
were
a
previous
management
company
in
our
organization.
N
We
did
not
have
a
very
good
experience
with
us
and
when
the
scope
of
work
became
apparent
to
them,
they
actually
dropped
us
forcing
us
to
find
a
new
association
management
company.
So
it's
a
very
good
chance
that
whatever
example
was
mentioned
earlier,
is
not
a
relevant
comparison.
They
HIA
that
we're
considering
and
we
have
and
they
to
the
point
of
value
I
myself
am
optimistic
that
we're
going
to
get
those
increases,
but
even
if
we
got
partially
or
most
of
those
value
increases,
you
know
we
have
talked
through.
N
Those
are
opinions
based
on
folks
who
understand
what
an
HIA
is
and
not
an
average
realtor.
Who
may
be
unaware
of
the
concept,
so
we
feel
like
we
have
done
our
due
diligence
there
and
we
were
making
a
most
weighted
and
fundamental
decision
necessary
to
the
building
and
I
also
wanted
to
sort
of
mention
that
I
heard
earlier.
The
suggestion
that
there
were
professional
fees
being
paid
to
the
engineering
company
who's,
helping
us
make
sure
we're
not
getting
taken
advantage
of
and
to
Doug
who's,
been
the
management
and
consultant
on
this
Doug's
credit
alone.
N
N
A
lot
of
construction
work
is
happening
and,
unfortunately,
that
seems
to
have
in
part
translated
to
our
initial
estimates
inflated
you
to
just
simply
demand
on
the
construction
industry,
and
we
are
doing
our
best
to
slice
and
dice
that
down
to
bare
minimums
things
that
are
important
for
the
building
and
things
that
will
return
value
to
the
owners.
We
are
committed
to
that.
We
are
open
to
all
opinions
and
we
are
trying
to
be
as
accessible
as
possible
and
consider
it
two
very
unique
individual
circumstances.
N
Affordability
is
hugely
important
in
Minneapolis
these
days
and
we
in
no
way
want
to
displace
folks
unless
we're
stuck
doing
it
because
I'm
on
the
third
floor,
I
have
water
seeping
into
my
unit
through
the
walls.
From
the
fourth
floor
above
me,
the
fourth
floor
above
me,
I
walked
into
his
unit
once
just
to
have
a
conversation.
He
has
open
holes
in
his
walls
where
water
intrudes,
because
you
can't
repair
it
until
you
replace
the
facade
on
the
outside.
N
So
basically,
we
have
tons
of
owners
who
have
been
years
in
the
waiting
with
holes
in
their
walls,
leakage.
Every
time
it
rains
city,
suggesting
and
and
warning
us
that
we're
gonna
get
condemned
condemnation
for
either
the
full
building
of
the
parking
garage
and
we
need
to
move
forward,
and
we
really
just
appreciate
the
city's
opportunity
to
provide
this
HIA
and
let
us
get
this
building
up
to
what
it
should
be,
give
our
owners
the
value
they
deserve
and
become
stronger
part
of
the
wood.
Your
neighborhood
thank.
A
K
Good
afternoon
you
know
I'm
in
unit
107
and
I
work
for
an
engineering,
firm
I,
do
construction
management
and
I
think
part
of
the
problem.
A
lot
of
the
people
have
I'm
in
favor
of
the
HIA
is
that
water
infiltration
is
a
major
problem,
and
you
only
can
see
what
you
can
see.
A
guarantee
of
the
damage
is
much
worse.
K
I've
I've
got
a
lot
of
experience
with
this
part
of
the
hardware
and
I
think
is
from
the
previous
companies
that
we
worked
with
that
were,
in
my
opinion,
unethical
with
their
Billings
and
what
they
actually
provided
and
the
previous
board
members
didn't
handle
it
well.
I
think
this
board
now
is
much
more
in
tune
with,
what's
going
on
what
the
needs
are
and
I
can
tell
you
that,
I'm
in
the
first
floor
unit,
there's
water
infiltration
in
my
unit
minor
damage,
but
minor
damage
becomes
major
damage.
The
windows
are
extremely
inefficient.
K
The
parking
garage,
my
expertise
is
structural
engineering
and
the
parking
garage
is
in
bad
shape
and
it's
only
going
to
get
worse.
Like
Doug
said
rebar
when
it
rusts,
it
expands,
causes
falling
and
popping
and
more
water
infiltration,
it's
just
going
to
get
worse
before
it'll,
never
get
better.
So
that's
really
all
I
had
to
say
is
that
I
would
say.
K
Doug
and
I
have
communicated
he's
going
to
share
those
plans
and
specs
with
me
for
review,
and
the
one
thing
I
would
say
and
I've
mentioned
this
to
Doug-
is
that
the
on-site,
construction
management
or
observation
should
be
a
daily
thing.
There
should
be
daily
reports
and
daily
photographs
of
what's
happening.
If
there's
change
orders,
there's
credits
back,
they
were
into
something
that's
unknown,
it's
it's
documented
and
it's
immediately
brought
to
everyone's
attention.
But
what
happened
on
the
previous
projects?
K
A
E
You
mr.
chair
I
am
going
to
move
the
staff
recommendation
to
approve
the
HIA.
I
would
like
to
also
speak
to
it
fairly.
Briefly,
I
was
the
author
of
this
when
this
first
came
about
I
think
almost
going
on
15
years
ago
as
the
result
of
a
project
in
my
ward,
the
wellington
that
had
a
life
safety
issue
with
its
back
balcony,
where
the
city
was
going
to
condemn
the
building
because
they
didn't
have
ingress
and
egress,
and
there
were
less
than
50
units
of
affordable
homeownership
in
that
building.
E
E
The
reason
we're
here
today
is
because
no
bank
would
be
willing
to
finance
this
and
I
felt
at
the
time
like
councilmember
bender
does
as
well
that
multifamily
buildings
are
such
a
blessing
in
our
city.
We're
thanking
people
for
living
in
a
multi-family
way,
but
we
didn't
really
have
any
way
to
help
when
banks
didn't
treat
condos
the
same
way
as
they
treated
homeownership
and
single
family
homes,
and
so
this
was
a
way
for
us
to
be
the
funder
of
last
resort.
I
would
also
tell
my
colleagues
that
our
staff,
mr.
E
Winkle
Hague,
would
never
agree
to
this.
If
this
was
not
the
funding
of
last
resort,
in
fact
he
stops.
A
number
of
HR
is
from
going
forward
when
people
just
want
us
to
help
them
finance,
which
we
can't
do
and
really
works
hard
to
ensure
that
this
is
the
financing
of
last
resort.
I
don't
want
to
get
involved
in
the
conflict
between
residents
and
I
feel
bad
that
we've
been
put
in
that
position.
E
We
really
need
to
look
at
one
thing,
which
is:
is
the
work
needed
and
if
it's
needed
will
anyone
else
be
willing
to
lend
to
pay
for
it?
And
my
guess
is
no
one
else
would
be
willing
to
lend
to
pay
for
it
or
if
they
would,
it
would
be
like
a
payday
loan
rate,
and
so
you'd
have
a
much
higher
rate
and
I
fear.
If
we
don't
do
this,
they
don't
move
forward.
E
All
of
these
people
will
lose
their
entire
investment
with
no
ability
to
recoup
it,
as
the
city
probably
would
have
a
health
life
safety
issue
with
water
and
filtration.
So
we're
not
I
mean
this
isn't
a
happy
situation.
We
are
of
last
resort
in
terms
of
financing
it
but
I
believe,
given
what
I've
heard
from
our
staff
who
are
impartial
and
not
the
consultant,
and
you
need
consultants
to
do
this-
that
we
don't
have
a
choice
and
it's
a
risk
for
us
too.
I
want
to
be
clear.
E
You
know
we're
putting
this
out
as
a
general
obligation
bond
against
the
rest
of
the
taxpayers
of
the
city
of
Minneapolis.
Essentially,
everybody
else
in
the
city
is
saying:
take
the
risk
to
preserve
the
housing
for
these
people.
I
am
one
who
does
not
like
to
use
geo
bonds
for
anything,
maybe
other
than
financing
our
water
infrastructure.
So
it
is
a
risk
to
us,
but
it's
a
wit
risk
that
this
group
of
people
have
been
willing
to
take
in
the
past
in
order
to
preserve
homeownership
and
not
have
people
without
housing.
M
M
We
will
and
I
know
my
staff
followed
up
with
the
woman
who
spoke
earlier,
which
sounded
like
you
know,
just
like
a
complex
legal
situation
that
she
finds
herself
in,
and
so,
if
we
or
the
Whittier
alliance,
which
has
a
new
Housing
Committee
or
anyone,
can
help
with
any
of
these
individual
situations,
that's
my
commitment
to
so
that's!
That's
all.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
A
Matter
to
decide
sure.
D
Gordon
before
you
vote
on
the
HIA
I
think
you
need
to
make
a
decision
about
the
request
for
exemption.
D
D
A
Would
we
move
to
deny
the
exemption
if
we
wanted
to
deny
the
exemption
I
I
will
move
that
I
guess
we
can
vote
on
them
separately.
So
you
we
should
vote
on
this
motion
to
deny
the
exemption
first
that
clear
to
everybody
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed,
say
no.
That
motion
carries
and
then
on
the
bigger
motion.
The
staff
recommendation
involving
the
HIA
remember:
Goodman's
motion
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed,
say
no.
That
motion
carries
as
well.