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From YouTube: March 20, 2018 Ways & Means Committee
Description
Mike Ways & Means Committee Meeting
A
Good
afternoon,
everyone
I
call
this
regularly
scheduled
meeting
of
the
Ways
and
Means
Committee
to
order
I'm
the
chair
of
the
committee,
councilmember
Abdul,
or
something
and
we're
joined
by
a
councilmembers,
Cunningham,
Johnson,
Alma
Sano
and
vice-president
Jenkins.
Let
the
record
reflect
that
we
have
a
quorum
and
are
able
to
take
consideration
of
the
city
business
today.
First,
what
we're
going
to
do?
We
have
26
items
on
the
agenda.
A
The
first
consent
item
is
a
grant
from
the
American
Society
for
the
Prevention
of
Cruelty
to
Animals
for
an
upgraded
sanitation
system
at
Minneapolis,
Animal,
Care
and
Control.
The
second
item
is
confidentiality
and
non-disclosure
agreement
with
the
berkeley,
risc
administration
administrators
company
LLC
for
protection
of
employee
medical
information.
A
The
next
item
is
the
bid
for
the
Minneapolis
Convention
Center
expansion,
a
restroom
remodel
project.
The
next
item
is
a
authorizing
participation
in
the
Minnesota
municipal
money
market
fund
for
M
for
the
investment
of
city
funds.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
a
rollover
of
2017
funds
to
the
2018
general
appropriation.
A
A
Item
number:
nine
on
agenda
is
the
contracts
with
KCI
conservation
and
Midwest
art
Conservation
Center
for
the
pool
of
qualified
art
conservators.
The
next
item
is
an
agreement
with
the
primary
school
of
behavioral
art
LLC
for
creative
city
challenge,
temporary
public
art,
Commission
item
number
11,
the
bid
for
official
advertising.
Idol
number
12
is
a
2018
local
board
of
appeal
on
equalization.
An
item
number
13
is
the
local
2018
local
board
of
appeal
on
Equalization
appointments.
A
Appointing
the
the
following
members
for
the
city's
2018
board
of
appeal
and
Equalization
appointing
tad
Mary
nack
sandy
Rocha,
Patricia,
Werner,
Earl,
Network
and
Geoff
Lawson.
Item
number
14
is
a
contract
with
the
University
of
Minnesota
for
Minneapolis
Department,
bomb
detection
at
TCF
stadium
for
football
soccer
and
homecoming
events.
An
item
number
15
is
a
contract
amendment
with
Minnesota
Homeland,
Security
and
Emergency
Management
for
bomb
disposal.
Units
item
number
16
is
a
contract
with
various
organizations
for
the
provision
of
services
for
victims
of
domestic
violence.
A
A
Item
number
20
is
an
agreement
with
the
Minnesota
Campus
Compact
for
a
Vista
volunteer
item
number
21
is
a
nondisclosure
agreement
with
Xcel
Energy
item
number
22
is
a
bid
for
free
three
campus
sanitary
sewer
improvements.
I,
don't
number
23
is
a
mid-city
industrial,
Street
reconstruction
project,
approval
assessment
and
areaway
abandonment.
A
Item
number
24
is
a
Brooklyn
Boulevard
reconstruction
project,
cooperative
agreement
with
the
city
of
Brooklyn
Center
item
number
25
is
a
Plymouth
Avenue
North
street
resurfacing
project
approval
and
assessment.
An
item
number
26
is
the
Nokomis
area
residential
street
resurfacing,
project
approval
and
assessment.
A
A
Seeing
none
all
in
approval
of
the
consent
agenda
say
aye
opposed,
say:
no.
These
items
are
approved
and
now
we're
going
to
go
back
to
our
first
item
on
the
agenda,
which
is
our
public
hearing,
move
which
today
will
be
considering
two
resolutions
regarding
the
chapter:
four,
seventy-five
five-year
capital
improvement
plan
for
the
East,
Side
storage
and
maintenance
facility
city
hall
renovations
and
the
new
office
building,
or
consolidated
building
public
service
center
and
the
issuance
of
bonds
to
finance
these
projects.
We
have
before
us
CFO
mr.
mark
ruff.
B
Sure
we're
saw
many
members
of
the
Ways
and
Means
Committee
and
Mark
ruff
I'm
gonna
quickly
walk
through
a
PowerPoint,
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
as
we
go
through
the
presentation
or
at
the
end
as
well.
As
the
chair
mentioned.
We
have.
We
have
two
actions
following
the
public
hearing
and
those
are
both
to
adopt
a
capital
improvement
plan,
that's
specific
to
financing,
as
well
as
awarding
a
bond
sale,
but
I
should
mention
that
this
is
all
in
preparation
for
subsequent
construction
bids
that
will
be
considered
later
this
year
and
there.
B
This
discussion
today
and
the
actions
today
are
to
allow
the
City
Council
then
to
award
those
bids
and
understand
where
the
financing
is
going
to
come
from
to
pay
for
those
fins
generally
as
an
overview
of
debt
for
the
city,
you
may
be
familiar
with
the
fact
that
the
city
issues
debt
under
its
Charter.
The
difficulty
we
have
is
that
the
Charter
limits
per
project
bonds
to
15
million
dollars.
B
I'm
told
that
part
of
the
folklore
and
I
haven't
gone
back
to
research,
originally
that
this
15
million
dollar
cap
was
set
sometime
1970s
and
it
was
done
at
the
time
there.
There
was
the
first
domed
stadium
that
was
actually
proposed
in
the
city,
and
this
was
a
way
of
limiting
the
city's
participation
in
a
domed
stadium
for
financing,
so
that
dollar
amount
and
and
others
can
tell
you
some
of
the
history
there.
B
But
I'm
told
there
was
a
rather
significant
change
in
the
council
that
occurred
at
this
time
as
well,
and
so
as
a
we
go
through
these
decision
points
and
cities
all
along
the
way.
But
this
is
one
where
there
was
no
inflation
assigned
to
this,
and
so
we've
been
able
to
live
within
that
cap,
primarily
because
we
find
other
authorities
to
issue
debt
so,
for
example,
we're
undertaking
a
60
million
dollar
renovation
of
the
Fridley
water
treatment
plant.
B
Well,
that's
not
being
issued
with
bonds
according
to
our
Charter,
we're
using
state
statutes
to
authorize
the
bonds.
In
that
particular
case,
the
state
statute
we're
using-
or
in
that
particular
case,
either
we
have
special
legislation
or
we
have
a
state
statute
that
allows
us
to
issue
debt,
and
in
that
case
we
have
both
of
those
options
for
this
particular
set
of
projects
being
that
they're,
primarily
public
works
and
public
safety
oriented.
We
are
able
to
use
a
different
statute
and
that's
chapter
four.
B
Seventy
five
point:
five,
twenty
one
that
allows
us
to
pay
for
either
portions
of
buildings
or
all
of
buildings
that
are
associated
with
these
public
safety
and
Public
Works
needs
as
well
as
City
Hall.
Now
one
of
the
subtleties
here
in
this
discussion
is
the
new
consolidated
office
building,
which
we
also
refer
to
as
the
new
Public
Service
Center
is
not
a
City
Hall.
B
Our
City
Hall
resides
in
this
building,
and
so
we
can't
use
this
authority
to
pay
for
all
of
that
new
building
as
well,
but
we
can
combine
these
statutory
authorities
and
that's
what
we
anticipate
doing
with
the
consolidated
office
building
is
is
coming
together
with
two
or
three
different
statutory
authorities.
The
one
that
we're
just
dealing
with
today
is
the
chapter
475.
B
There
are
eight
considerations
that
we'll
walk
through
that
the
council
and
this
committee
will
receive
feedback
on
in
terms
of
what
specific
findings
are
required
under
the
resolution.
In
the
statute.
There
is
this
public
hearing
and
then
there
is
an
allowance
or
30
days
that
if
people
don't
like
this
particular
way
of
financing,
they
can
assemble
a
petition.
I
think
it's
5%
of
the
that's
right,
Julie
Julie
Eddington
from
Kennedy
engraven.
B
B
This
is
not
refer
to
this
as
a
capital
improvement
plan
process,
but
it's
really
just
for
financing.
It's
not
the
same
as
what
the
Kliq
Committee
goes
through
that
this
council
considers
as
a
part
of
the
budget.
This
is
a
specific
capital
improvement
plan
just
for
for
bond
financing
the
two
projects
in
more
detail,
and
we
have
staff
here
who
certainly
can
outline
if
you
have
questions
about
these
projects,
but
I
think
we've
talked
about
them
a
few
times
beforehand
and
certainly
several
times
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
B
The
first
is
the
east
side,
storage
and
maintenance
facility,
and
it's
up
at
27th
and
university.
It
is
replacing
two
outdated
facilities,
27:10
Pacific
and
1809
Washington
Street,
so
one
in
North
Minneapolis,
one
in
Northeast
Minneapolis,
both
of
those
buildings
were
originally
built
in
the
1940s,
so
they've
obviously
served
the
purpose
as
well
for
our
solid
waste,
as
well
as
our
transportation
maintenance
repair
needs.
B
Part
of
the
justification
for
this
particular
facility
is
being
able
to
combine
those
two
storage
and
maintenance
facilities
into
one
so
that,
hopefully,
over
the
long
term,
we
see
some
efficiencies
garnered
by
the
fact
that
we
have
large
vehicles
all
in
one
place
where
they
can
be
attended
to
by
the
similar
staff,
and
there
is
also
has
been
some
discussion
in
the
past
and
maybe
sometime
in
the
future.
The
ability
to
incorporate
park
board
large
vehicles
into
some
of
components
of
this
facility
as
well.
B
The
other
facilities
we're
talking
about
are
the
renovations
to
this
building,
which
would
be
associated
with
people
moving
in
and
out
with
the
construction
of
a
new
public
service
center
or
what
we
refer
to
as
the
consolidated
office
building.
So
looking
at
Eastside,
first
we'll
focus
on
that.
This
is
an
architectural
rendering
we
are
actually
at
90
percent
or
I
think
probably
close
to
100
percent
now
Bob
in
terms
of
construction,
drawings
and
so
project
has
been
undertaken
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
B
This
is
the
office
portion,
so
if
you're
on
university,
looking
south,
you
can
see
downtown
off
in
the
distance
and
then
on
the
east
side
of
university,
just
south
of
where
that
bridge
comes
down
is
where
this
facility
would
be.
This
is
the
what
I
would
call
the
prettiest
side
of
the
building.
It
is
some
part
where
you
will
see
a
fair
amount
of
landscaping.
There
will
be
public
art
incorporated
as
well,
and
then
this
is
the
office
component.
B
Behind
that
you
can
see
some
of
the
indoor
maintenance
facilities
there's
parking
associated
with
this
as
well.
This
is
just
a
site
plan
again.
The
upper-left
corner
is
that
is
that
area
that
we
were
looking
at
before
and
that's
the
office
component
and
you
can
see
on
the
right
hand,
side
is
a
fair
amount
of
outdoor
parking
that
will
be
associated
with
these
larger
vehicles.
B
I
know
we
are
also
considering
CNG,
so
natural,
a
different
form
of
powering
our
solid
waste
vehicles
using
natural
gas
as
one
of
the
alternatives
that's
been
evaluated
with
this,
so
it's
a
good
opportunity
to
review
a
variety
of
not
just
facility
needs,
but
also
operational
needs
for
these
departments.
And
again
we
have
staff
with.
There
are
questions
to
answer
those
particular
issues.
This
facility
is
right
now
estimated
to
be
less
than
47
million
dollars.
I
think
we
expect
right
now
between
about
forty
and
forty
five
million
dollars
is
the
exact
cost.
B
This
project
will
be
bid
in
the
next
couple
of
months
and
we
have
alternates
and,
depending
on
the
savings
in
the
amount
we
will
come
forward
with.
Those
bids
to
the
council
in
2018
about
fifteen
million
dollars
is
tax,
supported
the
taxes
to
support
this
bond
issue
were
approved
in
the
last
budget
cycle,
so
a
part
of
our
bond
redemption
levy.
The
part
of
the
levy
that
we
pay
for
regular
bond
issues
wasn't
incorporated
this
particular
project
when
the
budget
was
adopted
in
2017
and
then
we'll
have
the
majority
of
the
building.
B
There's
a
document
that
was
in
the
packets,
it
outlines
all
of
the
findings
that
are
required,
but
generally
I
will
just
quickly
go
over
the
fact
that
we
do.
We
have
looked
at
the
condition
of
the
infrastructure.
There
were
condition
reports.
It
wasn't
just
that
these
facilities
were
built
in
the
1940s.
They
have
aged
they're
in
areas
that
don't
support
these
kinds
of
facilities,
in
particular
over
the
twenty-seventh
and
Pacific
part
of
that
facilities
in
the
floodplain
just
the
circulation,
not
just
the
construction,
but
the
circulation.
Those
facilities
really
don't
meet.
B
Certainly,
the
demand
and
the
costs
of
the
improvements
are
outlined
already,
but
the
demand
for
solid
waste
and
recycling
we've
been
asking
more
and
more
of
our
solid
waste
and
recycling
folks
as
we've
added
organics,
so
that
entire
operation
has
changed
and
will
continue
to
change
over
the
next
few
years.
There
is
a
provision
asking
about
overlapping
debt.
There
is
that's
I,
think
just
trying
to
understand
how
much
the
school
district
has
in
debt,
how
much
the
county
has
in
debt
and
by
the
city
adding
a
lot
more
debt.
B
Is
that
going
to
somehow
be
a
problematic,
and
so
we
have
included
some
numbers
on
that
at
this.
At
this
stage
we
don't
see
that
as
a
problem
for
any
of
the
jurisdictions,
but
certainly
happy
to
talk
about
that
some
more
as
well,
and
then
there
they're
asking
also
about
alternatives
so
and
I
think
this
is
just
a
statutes
way
of
saying.
Have
you
thought
City
about?
Is
there
a
different
way
of
doing
business
so,
for
example,
in
solid
waste?
Is
there
should
we
be
combining
with
the
county?
B
But
there
was
an
exploration
of
that
particular
kind
of
combined
effort,
and
it
just
did
not
materialize,
certainly
councilmember
riking,
that
this
isn't
his
work
and
give
you
more
history
than
I
have
in
terms
of
the
evolution
of
that.
But
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
we
also
have
been
talking
with
the
park
board
and
it's
really
went
into
great
detail
of
trying
to
find
a
way
operationally.
Could
we
make
this
facility
work
for
everyone,
the
additional
amount
of
land
that
would
have
been
necessary?
B
We
potentially
could
have
added
to
this
particular
project,
but
the
park
board
themselves
pulled
out
of
the
process
about
a
year
ago
and
so
we're
on
our
way
to
just
our
own
facility.
But,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
there
could
be
ways
for
them
to
utilize
this
facility,
but
they
may
not
store
their
vehicles
there,
at
least
to
have
been
fixed
washed
other
kinds
of
opportunities
for
combined
facilities
for
I.
Think
in
this
particular
area,
especially
given
the
councilmember,
the
ward
councilmember,
is
also
the
chair
of
GT.
B
We
do
have
a
good
sense
of
what
the
operating
costs
are
and
again
part
of
the
efficiencies
of
the
fact
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
LEED
Gold
certified
facility
as
well.
So
even
you
know,
larger
public
works
buildings,
as
was
the
case
in
Hiawatha
facility,
can
be
very
energy
efficient.
We
do
anticipate
some
savings
associated
with
that
as
well.
So
that's
the
27th
and
university
project,
the
city
hall
renovations
in
the
new
office,
building
just
a
quick
review
in
terms
of
the
existing
conditions.
B
You
know
40
percent
of
this
building
is
under
the
county's.
Control
were
out
of
space
currently,
and
we
are
in
a
variety
in
a
variety
of
facilities,
including
the
public
service
center
of
which
there's
been
no
investment
since
1999
the
council's
familiar
with
some
of
this
history,
we
also
rent
in
for
other
buildings.
So
here
you
can
see
different
facilities
that
the
city
has
downtown,
all
of
which
are
in
need
of
either
replacement
or
some
kind
of
renovation,
the
green
being
the
least
buildings.
B
We
just
started
the
lease
another
building,
the
Grain
Exchange
building
across
from
the
flower
exchange.
It
was
also
pointed
out
to
me
that
the
fire
stations
in
the
wrong
place
on
this
map-
it
should
be
a
block
east,
so
I
apologize
for
that,
but
we
are
also
hopeful
that
fire
station
number
1
will
be
replaced
over
the
next
couple
of
years
on
that
as
a
part
of
a
larger
redevelopment
that
would
occur
on
the
allied
parking
lot
surface
parking
lot
area
where
it
currently
resides.
B
But
really,
our
objective
is
to
consolidate
than
all
of
the
office
workers
for
the
city
within
city
hall
and
this
consolidated
office
building
or
new
public
service
center.
If
the
department's
that
we'll
be
moving
into
the
to
the
new
consolidated
office
building
are
listed
here,
so
a
fair
amount
of
our
Police
Department
revolving
around
investigations.
So
that's
also
a
public
service
in
the
sense
of
people
coming
in
who
are
either
witnesses
or
victims
of
a
crime.
B
Meeting
with
the
police
department
happens
a
fair
amount
in
this
building,
as
well
as
will
will
in
the
new
building
cpad,
is
also
a
major
tenant
in
this
new
building
and
obviously
has
a
lot
of
interaction,
a
number
of
levels
from
business,
licensing
up
to
small
business
health,
as
well
as
permits
and
and
building
permits
and
advice
that
comes
from
the
building
department.
Steve.
The
porous,
Area,
Health,
Department
and
regulatory
services
will
also
be
located
in
this
building,
as
well
as
parts
of
finance
and
property
services
such
as
utility
billing
and
our
area
procurement.
B
That
takes
bids
so
again.
The
goal
here
is
to
provide
much
more
accessible
and
easy-to-understand
services
for
those
people.
Coming
in
whether
are
not
regular
visitors
to
the
city
or
maybe
regular
visitors
to
the
city,
but
can
actually
minimize
the
number
of
trips
that
they
have
to
take
among
the
different
departments
here
specifically,
is
listing
who
is
coming
in
to
City
Hall
and
who's
moving
out
of
City
Hall?
So
it's
not
just
about
building
a
new
building.
B
It's
also
about
the
need
to
update
this
building
for
the
workers
who
are
becoming
in
and
so
a
significant
number
of
departments,
including
Human
Resources,
part
of
our
department,
finance
and
property
services
and
Risk
Management
Area.
Our
Assessor
will
be
moving
in
neighboring
community
relations,
who
again,
who
do
most
of
their
work
out
in
the
neighborhoods,
but
need
to
have
a
home
base,
and
that
would
be
located
in
this
building,
as
well
as
the
youth
Coordinating
Board.
So
how
do
we
pay
for
all
of
these
renovations
in
the
new
construction?
Well,
there
are
several
sources.
B
The
first
of
all
is
and
we're
not
going
to
need
new
property
taxes
to
pay
for
the
depth
associated.
With
this
we
have
an
existing
debt
levy.
Ten
point:
four
million
dollars:
that's
used
being
used
to
pay
for
the
city's
share
of
the
library
bonds.
So,
even
though
the
county
operates
the
libraries
we
are
continue
to
levy
property
taxes
to
pay
the
debt
service
associated
with
the
construction
of
not
just
a
new
downtown
library,
but
the
neighborhood
libraries
that
were
approved
as
well.
B
In
the
document
we
mentioned
that
the
total
project
cost
over
five
years,
because
this
does
actually
look
over
five
years
is
expected
to
be
potentially
over
two
hundred
million
dollars,
but
this
debt
would
just
be
paid
for
a
portion
of
that
and
there's
also
not
just
the
department
working
space
infrastructure
of
City
Hall
itself.
That
is
needed
to
be
replaced.
B
I
think
in
terms
of
these
findings
again,
we
feel
like
there's
adequate
basis
in
the
document,
as
well
as
the
other
information
that's
been
presented
to
the
council
after
over
the
last
four
years
to
support
all
of
these
findings,
but
certainly
would
be
happy
to
walk
through
those
in
detail.
If
the
committee
was
wishes
to
at
this
point
in
time,
I'm
just
a
brief
on
the
new
office
building,
it
is
expected
to
be
11
stories.
The
11
story
is
a
mechanical
floor,
so
it's
really
going
to
be
10
occupied
floors.
B
We
have
a
floor
and
a
half
that's
being
built
for
the
future,
so
those
would
not
be
actually
built
out
its
what's
called
shell
demeaning.
The
mechanicals
will
be
in
there.
The
basic
ability
to
sometime
in
the
future
occupy
that
space,
but
we
are
looking
about
three
hundred
and
eighty
two
thousand
square
feet
that
includes
one
underground
level,
which
will
not
have
parking
but
will
have
storage
as
well
as
a
bicycle
facility
for
city
employees.
B
I
won't
be
moving,
the
police
chief
won't
be
moving,
the
fire
chief
won't
be
moving.
Those
very
core
functions
will
be
staying
within
City
Hall,
so
there's
just
a
review
of
actions
and
then
to
let
you
know
that
we
do
anticipate
that
demolition
will
be
starting
on
June
18th.
So
with
that,
mr.
chair
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
or
certainly,
if
there's
any
public
comments,
we
could
take
that
and
then
and
then
respond
is
accordingly
afterwards.
Thank.
A
A
C
C
B
Chair
councilmember
Jenkins.
Yes,
there
is
a
conference
center
on
the
first
floor,
that's
being
planned
its
if
it
were
all
opened
up
into
one
large
room
which
will
it
will
have
the
potential
for
OB
up
to
150
people
to
meet
it
can
be
broken
into
smaller
areas
as
well.
One
of
the
things
that
we
have
been
doing
a
staff
is
had
a
couple
of
neighborhood
meetings
and
been
meeting
with
those
downtown
associations,
as
well
as
Elliott
Park
neighborhood
as
to
what
get
their
input
on
what
kind
of
facilities
that
shouldn't
include.
B
B
There
or
so
many
council
member
jenkins,
there
is
more
dialogue
on
it.
I
think
they
refer
to
them
as
bike
centers
I
think
where
were
people
who
are
not
employees
could
come
and
store
their
bikes.
I
think
the
question
would
be
is:
is
there
gonna
be
enough
space
in
the
basement
for
that
kind
of
facility?
I
think
the
other
is
just
a
larger
policy
issue
for
the
council
to
address,
which
is
they
support.
B
Our
Public
Works
Department
have
said:
is
their
current
emphasis
of
the
city
is
to
get
employers
to
put
bike,
storage
facilities
and
locker
rooms
in
individual
buildings,
so
people
can
just
have
their
bike
in
their
own
building,
but
we
haven't
closed
the
door
on
that
option
and
talked
to
the
public
works
director.
Robin
Hutchinson
she's
committed
as
a
part
of
this
evaluation
process
to
look
and
see
whether
it
could
be
feasible
likely
it
would
need
to
be
run
by
a
third
party,
and
so
there
would
be
because
it's
a
it's
a
service.
B
It
would
at
least
the
research
that
I've
done
around
the
country.
People
who
have
these
bike
services,
they
usually
cost
somewhere
between
40
and
50
$60
a
month,
and
so
part
of
this
is
also
a
business
evaluation,
which
is
does
that
pay
for
the
costs
of
the
facility,
as
well
as
a
third
party
running
it
and
I
know
the
closest
thing
that
we
have
in
the
Twin
Cities
to
something
like
that.
That
I'm,
aware
of
is
the
freewill
bike
facility
down
on
Midtown,
Greenway
I
know
that
facility
was
the
beneficiary
of
several
grants
originally.
B
So
that's
a
question
to
as
to
whether
we
could
emulate
that
particular
business
plan
or
not,
but
it's
it's
something
that
I
would
say
is
being
investigated.
I
would
also
just
caution
to
say
it's
probably
not
likely
at
this
stage.
Just
given
my
gut
feeling
about
it,
but
I
think
there
is
a
need
there.
We
recognize
the
need-
and
we
certainly
if
it
doesn't
work
in
this
building,
we'll
come
back
with
a
further
discussion
about
whether
the
city
should
be
looking
at
that
kind
of
facility
long
term.
But
we
haven't
closed
the
door
on
that.
B
B
D
Mr.
cherrick
council,
vice
president
Andrew
Jenkins
I,
am
we
are
in
the
process
of
defining
the
whole
public
art
plan
for
the
building
we
are
in
the
first
phase.
The
first
phase
involves
an
artist
working
with
the
design
team
to
identify
what
the
public
art
opportunities
are.
The
locations,
the
media
also
kind
of
the
range
of
artists
that
could
be
engaged.
D
So
our
plan
is
probably,
by
the
end
of
the
spring,
we
will
have
identified
a
draft
set
of
possible
locations
for
art,
and
then
we
have
gone
for
one
artists,
selection
process,
that
artists
from
Atlanta
Tristan
Alfa
Dodd
is
working
with
the
design
team
currently
to
identify
these
locations.
But
then
once
Tristan
and
the
design
team
or
identify
them,
then
we
will
probably
do
multiple
subsequent
calls
depending
on
what
the
opportunities
are
expect.
They'll,
be
both
two-dimensional
opportunities
and
three-dimensional
opportunities,
and
we
want
opportunities
that
have
a
range
of
budget
sizes.
C
D
E
Thank
You
mr.
chair,
this
question
is
for
mr.
ruff
I
was
looking
through
I
read
through
the
five-year
capital
improvement
plan
based
on
the
chapter
475
and
on
page
9
of
it
there
is
a
pay.
There
is
a
table
that
this
says,
that
is,
information
relating
to
the
outstanding
overlapping
at
general
obligation
indebtedness
of
the
city
as
of
the
end
of
26
tene
I
I
have
two
questions.
B
Mr.
chair
comes
member
cunningham.
First
of
all,
congratulations
on
making
it
all
the
way
through
that
document,
I'm
impressed
that
you
read
it
and
that
you
picked
out
this
table
I
think
you
know,
being
fiscally
sound
is
often
times
I'll,
be
more
reflected
by
bond
ratings
than
necessarily
an
absolute
debt
amount.
I
would
say
that
for
the
city
itself,
there
has
been
a
continual
decline
in
debt,
so
we
were
over
1.1
billion
dollars
in
debt
several
years
ago
and
I
think
the
low
point
was
something
below
700
million.
B
I
would
expect
that
with
these
projects
that
are
mentioned
here,
as
well
as
our
20-year
streets
and
parks
program,
we
will
be
increasing
debt,
but
we
hope
not
to
get
certainly
up
to
those
levels
of
the
1.1
billion.
We
would
like
to
see
these
be
more
manageable.
Debt
amounts
and
I
would
also
say
that
your
question
is
astute
from
the
standpoint
that,
to
me
is
less
about
how
much
debt
you
have
and
how
you
pay
for
it.
B
So,
for
example,
if
we're
adding
a
bunch
of
debt
for
our
water
facility,
but
it's
going
to
be
debt,
that's
affordable,
we're
borrowing,
money
from
the
state
of
Minnesota
through
the
public
facilities,
Authority
loan
program
that
will
probably
be
dead
at
at
one
and
a
half
for
one
3/4
percent
interest
rates.
You
know
that's
very
affordable
as
well
or
pay
for
paying
for
it
with
water
revenues,
whereas
if
we
were
paying
for
that
with
taxes,
that
would
be
a
whole
different
story
right.
B
So
we
have
to
all
have
to
know,
then,
where
the
debts
coming
from
in
terms
of
the
county
itself,
the
county
will
be
adding
debt,
assuming
that
some
of
these
light
rail
projects
come
online
and
they
have
a
new
tax
levy
that
I'm
sorry
new
sales
tax
that
was
associated
with
that.
That
will
be
adding
some
depth.
The
school
district
I
expected
would
be
fairly
level
as
well,
but
it's
actually
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
very
happy
about
that.