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From YouTube: December 3, 2018 City Planning Commission
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Minneapolis City Planning Commission Meeting
A
All
right
I'm
going
to
call
to
order
tonight's
meeting
of
the
Minneapolis
Planning
Commission
with
me
today
our
Commissioner
Marino
Schrader,
Swezey,
Coleman,
I'm,
sorry
and
I'll.
Listen
we'll
begin
tonight
by
approving
that
committee.
The
whole
consent
agenda
items
which
were
a
land
sale
at
232,
Humboldt,
Avenue
north
and
a
Lancel
of
927
West
Broadway,
18:32
DuPont
and
1838
DuPont
Avenue
North
can
I
get
a
motion.
A
All
in
favor
those
have
been
approved
now
we
will
sort
the
agenda
for
tonight's
meeting,
a
reminder
for
everyone
to
silence
their
cell
phones.
If
you
do
have
them
here
tonight,
if
there
is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
out
in
regard
to
item
number,
one
which
is
appointment
to
the
Zoning
Board
of
Adjustment,
all
right,
how
about
number
two
number
two,
the
2019
City
Planning
Commission
calendar-
is
there
any?
A
My
apologies
I'm,
not
normally
the
president,
all
right
so
tonight's
intended
anything.
I
remember
when
is
commemorative
street
name
Edition
for
Ward
5,
starting
here
to
speak
out
in
opposition
to
staff
recommendation
for
this
item.
Seeing
none.
We
will
place
that
on
the
consent.
Agenda.
Item
number
2,
1500,
West,
56th
Street.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
out
against
the
variance
in
the
minor
subdivision
as
staff
recommended?
Yes,
okay,
all
right,
we'll
pull
that
from
consent.
A
Item
number
3
is
a
contractor
yard
and
tow
company
parking
at
40
40
and
40
50
and
a
half
Washington
Avenue
north.
That
has
already
been
pulled
from
consent.
So
we
will
hear
that
item
tonight,
item
number
five
Suzy
for
Centrepointe,
an
ADIZ
substation
at
2406,
McNair
Avenue
north-
is
your
own
here
to
speak
out
in
opposition
of
staff
recommendation,
see
no
one
will
put
item
number
four
on
the
consent
agenda:
I,
don't
number
five
Target
Field
2019
enhancements
at
353,
fifth
Street
north.
We
have
a
variance
and
a
site
plan
review.
A
Does
anyone
here
to
speak
out
in
opposition
to
staff
recommendation
on
item
number
five,
all
right
seeing
none?
We
will
add
that
to
the
consent
agenda
item
number
six,
45,
53
and
45
61
Minnehaha
Avenue.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
out
in
opposition
to
staff
recommendation
that
I
don't
number
six
seeing
none
will
place
that
on
the
consent
agenda.
A
A
Item
number
nine
23,
25,
East,
38th,
Street
and
3812
24th,
Avenue
South.
Isn't
anyone
here
to
speak
out
in
opposition
to
staff
recommendation?
Okay?
We
will
pull
item
9
in
number
10
1202
4th
Street
southeast
1206,
4th
Street
southeast
1208,
4th
Street
southeast
1214,
4th
Street
southeast
and
316
12th
Avenue,
South
East.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
out
in
opposition
to
staff
recommendation,
ok,
hole,
number
10.
A
And
lastly,
item
number
11:
the
CH
DC
workforce
housing
at
8:10,
7th,
Street,
south
827,
6th
Street,
south
and
618,
ninth
Avenue
South.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
in
opposition
to
staff
recommendation
all
right,
seeing
none
I
move
that
to
the
consent
agenda
for
tonight.
So
commissioners,
we
have
items,
number
1,
4,
5,
6
and
11
for
the
consent
agenda
can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda
in
a
second.
A
A
You
can
I
have
it
okay,
so
they
can
send
a
general
the
items
number
one:
five,
six
and
11
with
okay.
Who
will
do
that
as
I
consented
in
the
first
motion?
Second,
all
right.
Thank
you
at
this
time,
I'm
going
to
open
the
public
hearing
on
those
numbers
items
number
one:
five,
six
and
eleven
one
more
time
to
see.
If
anybody
wants
to
speak
in
opposition
to
staff
recommendation,
seeing
no
one
I'll
close,
the
public
hearing
on
those
items
can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda,
all
in
favor
opposed
abstentions.
A
A
D
Commissioners,
just
to
clarify
these
are
action
items
that
are
not
subject
to
a
public
hearing.
We
routinely
get
City
Planning,
Commission
feedback
on
appointments
to
the
Zoning
Board
of
Adjustment,
and
this
particular
point
II
was
interviewed
last
year
when
Commissioner
upkeep
year
was
involved
with
the
Board
of
Adjustment
interviews
that
he
recommended
appointee
is
Matt.
Clark
he's
the
seventh
Ward
resident
interested
in
civic
land.
Use
issues
works
in
a
regulatory
environment,
although
not
in
land-use.
So
he
is
the
recommendation
for
a
new
appointment
to
the
Board
of
Adjustment.
E
D
And
commissioners,
you
have
the
draft
2019
City
Planning
Commission
calendar.
As
you
recall,
the
Planning
Commission.
This
calendar
is
largely
determined
by
the
City
Council's
calendar.
The
meetings
are
held
the
same
week
as
the
City
Council.
So
there's
not
a
ton
of
discretion
on
this
on
our
calendar
and
we've
tried
our
hardest
to
avoid
major
holidays
this
year,
which
we
had
a
mistake
on
this
year.
But
if
there's
any
questions,
I'd
be
happy
to
entertain
those.
Otherwise
it's
before
you
for
your
approval.
A
B
B
B
In
this
case.
As
you
can
see
in
your
packet,
the
applicant
has
provided
a
development
plan
that
meets
that
requirement
through
the
implementation
of
a
shared
driveway
between
the
two
proposed
structures
that
would
access
either
a
side.
Loading
garage
or
the
applicant
has
also
provided
more
recently.
Another
proposal
that
would
allow
for
rear
loading
garages
in
a
tuck
under
style
for
each
single-family
residence,
so
staff
has
recommended
approval
of
the
subdivision
and
variance
based
on
the
proposed
development
plan
and
I
know.
B
G
My
name
is
Heather
Hansen
I've
purchased
this
lab
with
a
plan
to
subdivide
it
and
build
two
single-family
residences.
I
reside
any
dine
on
my
business
addresses
4960,
Lincoln,
Drive,
Edina
I,
don't
know
if
there
are
any
specific
questions
for
me
or
any
more
information.
You
need
for
me
at
this
time
other
than
what's
provided
in
the
packet.
Are
there
any.
A
I
My
name
is
Philip
Gleason
I
live
at
55:14,
Humboldt,
Circle
I.
Remember
the
board
of
directors
of
the
humble
Oh
bolt
circle,
Association
I
believe
the
Association
believes
that
the
point
on
page
3
found
88.3
10
variances
the
grantee.
The
variance
will
not
be
detrimental
the
public
welfare
or
injurious
to
other
property
in
the
area
in
which
the
property
is
located,
and
we
believe
that
it
will
a
matter
of
fact
where
it's
positive,
that
it
will
the
Humboldt
Circle.
I
Association
is
comprised
of
six
single-family
homes
and
seven
double
homes,
for
a
total
of
twenty
homeowners,
we're
located
between
55th
Street
and
56th
Street,
with
the
exception
of
the
homes
at
phase
56
in
the
Girard
alley
in
the
urban
alley.
This
area
is
remembered
by
many
of
the
locals
is
a
swamp
until
1988,
when
somehow
they
got
it
approved
and
anyway,
that's
where
that's
where
we
all
live,
and
we
love
it,
but
we
do
have
problems
with
with
water.
I
I
Well,
unfortunately,
we
haven't
met
that
because
we
have
a
few
problems:
the
property
on
56th
Street
that
we're
talking
about
tonight
is
at
least
six
feet
higher
than
the
rest
of
the
whole
circle.
So
we
get
there
water.
If
you
look
at
55th
Street,
it's
a
level
two
Gerrard,
then
you
have
the.
If
you
recall
the
Fremont
he'll
ever
run,
54th
Street,
there's
a
stop
sign!
You
go
way
down.
Well
we're
at
the
bottom
of
that,
so
we've
taken
in
a
lot
of
water
that
I,
don't
think
was
ever
intended
for
this
particular
storm.
I
Pond
last
I
forget
the
date
in
September.
You
probably
already
call.
We
had
a
four
inch
rain.
The
pond
was
completely
full.
The
water
was
up
halfway
up
from
the
street
to
my
front
door,
the
end
of
my
garage
in
the
back
on
the
ravine
side.
I
can't
speak
for
those
folks
because
they're
all
single-family
homes,
but
their
backyards
were
flooded
as
part
of
that
as
well.
I
Putting
the
two
houses
up,
there
is
going
to
increase
the
amount
of
impervious
surface
and
is
going
to.
You
know,
spread
very
caused
us
to
have
more
runoff,
I
guess
the
other
objection
that
I
would
have
is
probably
more
general
and
not
has
he
an
association
item,
but
the
56th
Street
is
a
bus
route.
It's
not
a
particularly
wide
street
and
it's
also
some
emergency
route.
I
I
I
But
that's
the
subject:
property
and
this
covered
it
all
up
myself.
This
is
Humboldt
Circle,
with
the
exception
of
this
house
in
this
house.
That's
all
Humboldt,
so
you
know
there
is
no
no
access
and
because
it's
ventured
earlier
from
the
back
of
the
property
here,
because
it's
a
private
street,
we
haven't
turned
around
back
there.
Urban
gutter,
occasionally
the
homeowner
current
homeowner
sneaks
in
there,
but
we
don't
care
for
that.
So
I.
A
B
A
J
F
J
K
My
name
is
elias
Tovar
and
I'm
a
resident
at
55:48,
Girard,
Avenue,
South,
I'm,
just
adjacent
to
the
property
that
was
discussed
for
this
subdivision
and
also
neighbors
with
the
association
behind
me.
We
share
an
alleyway
and
first
of
all,
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
I
just
want
to
say:
I
can
attest
to
the
accuracy
of
his
concerns
with
the
waterway
in
the
spillway.
We
get
an
exorbitant
amount
of
water
in
the
alley
and
on
that
particular
for
ensuring
fall.
I
personally
experienced
water
in
my
finished
basement,
which
was
newly
remodeled
eight
years
ago.
K
So
things
are
definitely
changing
on
climatically
and
we're
experiencing
it
on
our
street
because
it
is
low-lying.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
the
thorough
narrative
on
that
I'm,
not
a
public
speaker
and
I'm,
going
to
just
read
my
thoughts
and
what
I
have
here
in
letter
form,
which
then
I
would
like
to
submit
to
Peter
Crandall,
actually.
A
K
You,
dear
Peter,
I'm,
writing
you
to
request
your
reconsideration
of
details
presented
and
to
reject
the
variance
requested
for
the
property
of
1500
West
56th
Street
Minneapolis,
as
described
in
the
notice
of
public
hearing
and
the
findings
provided
by
your
office
and
other
surveyors,
which
provided
their
information.
I,
do
not
believe
this
location
is
suitable
to
the
subdivision
of
a
single
property
and
will
detrimental
II
increase
the
block
density
in
a
fragmented
matter,
which
again
alluded
to
more
flooding
issues
that
we
already
have.
K
The
block
ends
moving
along
West
56th
Street
from
Lyndale
Avenue
to
Penn,
Avenue,
typically
end
with
a
two
row
dwelling
house
configuration
so
for
every
block
on
the
end
row
on
56th,
Street,
they're,
typically,
two
houses
only
and
they
join
on
the
ABC
roads
as
they
run
north
solid,
very
good
community,
very
good
on
base
of
neighborhood
feel,
and
two
of
my
neighbors
are
actually
in
fact
present
here
today
as
well.
That
live
close
to
this.
K
So
all
of
these
blocked
ends
are
2
2,
2
2,
and
then
we
go
to
2
2
2.
My
property
is
55
40.
Here's
Humboldt
Circle
addition,
and
there
are
already
one
two
three
properties:
shoehorn
into
the
same
plot
or
row
of
houses
to
its
Soloff,
where
it's
a
2
back
to
you.
So
in
effect
we're
putting
a
house
in
there
that
just
simply
doesn't
fit.
K
K
So
basically,
this
will
increase
the
density
beyond
the
current
allotment
in
the
Kenny
r1
single-family
district.
In
my
opinion,
this
is
not
a
satisfactory
improvement
to
the
development
of
our
neighborhood
and
should
be
denied
the
variance
as
it
already
goes,
against
the
written
Code
of
Ordinances,
which
I've
also
provided
within
this
package
and
of
which
it
does
not
elaborate
and
specify
any
specific
need
for
the
variance
we
don't
know
why
they
are
granted
a
variance
based
upon
section,
525,
2003,
severances,
variances,
I,
looked
them
all
up
and
I
can't
see
a
fit
here.
K
There
are.
There
are
there's
a
particular
one
that
can
be
used
and
to
vary
the
lot
area
or
lot
with
requirements
of
up
to
30%.
In
this
case
it's
20%
over
what
a
typical
lot
variance
would
allow
for
to
vary.
The
lot
area
or
width
of
up
to
50%
is
strictly
for
schools
where
they
are
allowed
to
do
additions
or
or
things
with
splitting
up
to
fifty
percent
of
the
space.
K
So
again,
this
is,
in
fact
a
20
percent
violation
of
the
code
of
authorized
variances
and
according
to
Minneapolis
Minnesota
Court
of
Ordinances,
the
required
findings
and
findings
must
explain
and
resolve
the
specific
cases
listed
under
five.
Twenty
five
point:
five
hundred
required
findings,
a
variance
may
be
granted
from
the
regulations
of
the
zoning
called
all
all
code.
Only
when
the
applicable
board
commissioning
counsel
makes
each
of
the
following
findings
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
to
it
in
each
specific
case,
and
there
are
three
in
its
attachment
B
in
this
package.
K
Practical
difficulties
exist
and
complying
with
the
ordinance
because
of
circumstances
unique
to
the
property.
There
aren't
any
unique
circumstances
with
this
property.
It's
perfectly
suitable
plot
of
land
to
build
a
new
residence
on
or
remodel
the
existing,
the
property
owner
or
authorized
applicant
proposes
to
use
the
property
in
a
reasonable
manner.
That
will
be
in
keeping
with
the
spirit
and
intent
of
the
ordinance
and
the
comprehensive
plan.
I
I'm
not
sure
how
that
applies
in
this
case,
with
the
existing
circumstances
of
the
lot
I
have
a
lot
more
questions
on
that.
K
There
has
to
be
an
authorized
variance
of
some
sort
in
there
1
through
31,
listed
in
the
codebook
and
I've
to
those
often
we'll
submit
them,
but
in
general
I
can't
see
any
of
that
needed.
I
hope
you
will.
Please
reconsider
the
use
of
land
for
an
improvement
or
a
new
build
for
a
single-family
dwelling
on
the
existing
property
as
it
stands
currently
and
without
subdivision.
Thank
you.
F
F
A
Actually,
I
have
two
questions
for
one.
If
we
just
see
that
plan,
if
you
have
it
with
you
of
the
of
the
other
two
dearest
Abrash
one,
if
you
could
put
that
on
the
overhead
and
the
number
two,
if
you
could
maybe
briefly
show
us
it's
hard
to
read
on
the
plans
here,
the
topography
changes
between
what's
currently
there
on
the
site
versus
what
you're
proposing
to
see
how
that
might
impact
the
watershed
from
the
site
to
the
other
parcels
in
question.
So.
G
This
is
what
is
currently
existing
on
the
property.
The
Rambler,
as
you
can
see
here,
the
parse
part
in
red
is
the
building
that
drains
to
the
back
of
the
property,
which,
apparently
is
the
concern,
is
bagent.
Is
the
topography
slope
with
the
arrows
or
the
topography
slopes
this
way
down
the
way
you're
looking
at
it
is.
This
is
north
west,
east,
south
and
the
slope
is
back
this
way.
This
is
humboldt
circle
back
here,
so.
G
Yes,
so
currently
the
way
it
stands
there
is
21
and
I
had
this
done
today,
because
I
was
made
aware
over
the
weekend
that
there
were
some
questions
about
drainage.
Just
through
here
say:
I
didn't
have
any
specific
to
go
with
on
this.
One
I've
been
working
with
my
surveyors
since
August
on
this
trying
to
find
a
reasonable
plan
that
would
work
for
what
I
was
trying
to
achieve.
G
So
today
we
went
back
and
did
a
study
on
the
existing
hard
cover
versus
what
I'm
proposing
and
at
this
with
this
right
now,
the
way
it
is
currently,
this
structure
has
2133
square
feet
that
the
house
drains
to
the
back.
Does
that
make
sense?
I
also
am
NOT
a
public
speaker,
so
I'm
not
very
eloquent.
So
if
you
have
any
questions,
please
ask:
are
we
clear
on
the
way
it
stands
today?
Yes,.
G
This
is
what
I
have
proposed
proposed
and
spoken
with
Peter
about
this
shows
a
here
I'll.
Do
it
the
way
that
was
before
so
we've
got
Northwest
East,
so
here
I
suggested
a
shared
driveway,
so
we
worked
on
doing
this.
This
is
a
shared
driveway,
with
side
loads
on
both
structures.
The
green
part
here
are
the
part
of
the
structures
that
would
also
drain
to
the
back
of
the
property,
with
both
structures
that
represents
one
thousand
six
hundred
and
forty
four
square
feet
of
hard
cover,
which
is
actually
less
than
what
is
currently
existing.
G
G
G
The
driveway,
no
it's
sloped
to
the
back,
but
as
you
can
tell
I'm
trying
to
keep
it
even
so,
there's
a
quite
a
bit
of
retaining
here
to
hold
that
driveway
up.
So
you
have
first
floor
entrance
into
the
garage,
so
I
believe
there
would
be
a
way
to
drain
it
out
to
the
street,
but
there
would
be
quite
a
bit
of
retaining
needed.
A
L
G
Was
another
suggestion
that
the
city
had
for
me
regarding
a
driveway
and
turn
around
with
lower-level
talk
under
garage,
and
that
does
increase
the
hardcover
that
could
potentially
drain
to
the
back
of
the
property?
So
personally,
I
would
try
to
work
with
something
like
I
showed
you
earlier
with
a
side.
Entry
are.
A
M
A
M
H
J
F
A
A
O
Good
evening,
the
zoning
of
this
subject,
property
is
I
to
industrial
zoning
with
the
Mississippi
River
critical
area.
Overlay
district
surrounding
uses
are
primarily
been
I,
historically
been
an
industrial
area
but
off
to
the
northeast
of
it.
That's
North
Mississippi
Park.
Obviously
we
have
the
Mississippi
River
to
the
east
and
then.
O
Property
here
is
also
owned
by
the
park
board,
although
it's
currently
industrial
also
note
there's
an
access,
easement
that
runs
across
in
this
area.
Here
it
provides
access
to
the
park
board
as
well
as
the
subject
property.
What's
currently
happening
on
the
site.
There
was
a
previously
a
towing
service
approved
for
the
building
and
the
front
part
of
this
site.
That's
currently
operating
area
situating
service.
There
was
some
storage
approved
behind
the
building,
but
not
any
parking.
Then
recently,
the
applicant
acquired
the
parcel
behind
the
building
through
a
subdivision
from
the
adjacent
railroad.
O
A
review
for
the
towing
service
staff
is
recommending
denial
of
all
three
applications,
and
that
would
be
for
two
main
reasons:
the
first
being
and
considered
with
a
comprehensive
plan,
and
then,
secondly,
because
the
post
I
sign
would
not
comply
with
these
site
plan
review
standards.
So,
looking
at
the
comprehensive
plan,
first
of
all,
this
site
is
designated
for
mixed-use
and
I'm.
Just
generally
in
the
comprehensive
plan
adjoining
service
would
not
be
supported,
slow
job
density
and
has
adverse
visual
impact.
O
O
O
There
would
be
an
opportunity
to
implement
sustainable
stormwater
management
solutions
to
minimize
runoff
and
water
quality
for
the
river,
as
well
as
implementing
sites
under
these
standards,
but
because
the
proposal
wouldn't
be
consistent
with
these
policies
for
the
short-term
industrial
use
and
it
would
not
be
brought
into
compliance
with
six
interview
standards.
We
found
that
was
not
consistent
with
the
policies
with
comprehensive
plan
and
then
looking
at
site
plan
review
standards
and
not
compliance
with
those
requirements.
First
of
all,
no
building
changes
are
proposed.
O
These
requirements,
of
course,
are
established
to
promote
development,
that's
compatible
with
nearby
properties,
neighborhood
character,
natural
features,
adaptive
plans,
reducing
heat
island
effect
and
just
generally
visually
enhancing
development.
So,
in
this
case
for
this
site,
we
found
that
issues
or
problems
here
set.
The
us
again
is
not
consistent
with
the
short-term
policy
for
the
area
and
it's
going
to
have
negative
impacts
to
water
quality
in
the
river
and
the
urban
heat
island
effect
and
then
visual
impacts.
O
So
with
the
park
nearby
they're
technically
visible
from
the
public
realm
in
that
direction,
and
there
may
be
some
visibility
from
the
river
as
well.
In
looking
at
the
alternate
compliance,
we
found
that
there's
no
basis
to
prove
the
request.
There's
no
alternate
approach
to
meet
the
intent
we
can
find
that
was
infeasible
to
meet
the
requirements
and
that
there
no
there's
no
consistency
here
again
with
the
Comprehensive
Plan,
so
I'm.
Looking
at
a
finer
view,
specifically,
we
did
not
support
those
requests
and
then
looking
at
the
conditional
use
permit.
O
We
also
did
not
find
that
findings.
1,
2,
5,
&
6
for
being
month,
so
more
specifically,
what's
proposed,
would
be
having
a
negative
impact
on
public
health
and
where
welfare,
as
well
as
development
of
surrounding
property,
again
not
considered
with
the
Comprehensive
Plan
and
not
conforming
to
the
applicants
owning
district
requirements
so
not
meeting
those
findings
ultimately
recommended
denial.
O
So
then,
looking
at
the
variance
for
the
surfacing
requirement,
as
I
mentioned,
because
they're
proposing
to
locate
vehicles
in
an
unsafe
area,
even
though
they're
just
being
stored,
it
does
trigger
that
requirement.
The
intent
of
the
ordinance
is
to
provide
a
durable
parking
surface
that
doesn't
produce
just
erode
or
allow
dirt
or
other
matter
to
be
trapped
into
the
public.
Right-Of-Way
in
this
area
is
currently
unpaved,
but
not
used
for
a
vehicle
storage.
O
The
applicant
indicated
that
approximately
150
vehicles
could
be
parked
there
and
their
findings
that
they
submitted
their
reason
for
not
paving
it
was
that
it
was
Impractical
based
on
the
GM.
Property
is
not
being
paved
that
the
shared
dumpster
storage
use
would
be
damaging
to
the
pavement.
There
were
not.
There
are
no
about
social
properties
and
relatively
flat
area,
so
the
strong
water
runoff
is
minimal.
However,
staff
didn't
find
that
those
practical
difficulties
were
unique
to
the
property,
and
this
is
a
change
that's
proposed
by
the
applicant.
O
The
site,
isn't
your
Mississippi
River
and
but
those
associated
adverse
impacts
and
this
location
with
the
access
shared
access
easement
the
dirt
can
be
tracked
onto
the
public,
right-of-way
and
potentiated
storm
stirs
as
well
as
towards
the
river,
because
even
the
park
board
property
shares
that
easement.
So
that
is
a
concern
of
staff.
Again,
we
found
that
the
the
request
was
not
consistent
with
the
concrete
so
plan
with
those
potential
impacts
to
the
river
and
the
other
development
of
the
area.
So
once
again,
recommend
needs
an
ion.
So
that
does
conclude
my
presentation.
A
P
P
P
So
40
40
Washington
is
is
part
of
a
family
of
companies
owned
by
a
private
party.
We
include
atomic
recycling,
Killington
construction,
maverick
cutting
and
breaking.
We
have
committed
our
businesses
to
North
Minneapolis.
We
have
a
construction
and
demolition
recycling
facility
on
22nd
Avenue
near
Broadway
in
Washington,
and
we
have
a
contractor
yard
at
4401,
Lyndale,
Avenue
North.
P
We
understand
that
this
area
is
part
of
the
future
above
the
falls,
so
we
know
that
it's
a
short-term
industrial
area
and
but
we
also
know
that
it's
phase
two,
it's
not
going
to
be
developed
as
fast
as
the
phase
1
area.
So
we
really
feel
that
we
should
be
allowed
to
use
our
property
to
the
most
of
its
extent
until
you've
figured
out
the
development
for
phase
2.
P
As
an
example,
atomic
recycling
is
leasing
land
in
the
river
yard,
from
the
city
right
now
and
we're
on
a
year-to-year
lease
because
of
the
phase
one.
So
we
know
that
we
are
already
being
impacted
by
the
change
and
the
development
of
the
area
along
the
river,
and
we
understand
that,
but
it
does
seem
that
the
business
community
is
losing
a
lot
of
the
industrial
property
available
to
us
so
that
we
can
service
our
businesses
within
the
core
of
the
city.
P
P
We
also
could
add
a
fresh
coat
of
the
recycled
asphalt
of
the
class-five,
which
could
help
if
that
makes
you
felt
better
instead
of
using
paving
to
me
if
you're,
adding
blacktop
or
asphalt
you're
increasing
the
impervious
surface
to
this
area
and
the
gravel
would
be
much
better
for
our
purposes,
because
if
there
are
dumpsters
on
there
they
won't,
they
won't
wreck
the
gravel.
We
can
easily
recreate
it.
If
we
needed
to
the
landscaping,
we
did
add
the
landscaping
along
Washington
Avenue.
P
When
we
asked
for
this,
you
pee
for
40
40
and
it
just
as
an
aside
I,
want
to
make
sure
you're
not
taking
away
her
see
you
pee
for
the
towing
company.
That's
there
now
I
mean
that's
an
active
business
right.
There
we
did
I
did
offer
to
doubt
that
we
would
be
willing
to
either
plant
a
tree
or
some
equal,
but
Landscaping
in
park
or
somewhere
else.
That
might
be
more
beneficial
than
right
here.
P
Our
neighbors
are
also
industrial
and
I.
Don't
think
that
parking
cars
or
dumpsters
will
be
injurious
injurious.
What
are
the
name
of
the
Lord
that
was
in
the
report
to
our
neighbors?
They
parked
their
own
cars
and
trucks
and
trailers.
This
is
the
park
board
and
they're.
Using
this
building
as
industrial,
you
can
see,
they
haven't
done
anything
through
their
site
to
improve,
add,
add
different
landscaping.
They
use
it
for
trucks.
P
P
P
P
P
So
the
park
board
maintenance
building
is
on
the
other
side
of
the
railroad
tracks,
and
then
we
have
some
silos
in
another
building.
That
is
there
as
well,
so
that
is
screening
and
and
also
people
from
the
river.
Would
you
already
see
all
of
those
buildings
as
well
everything
else
along
the
river
there
currently
is
industrial
we've
got
well,
there's
also
a
yard
waste
light.
P
P
P
All
right,
so
this
is
where
it's
green
and
then
along
here
is
this
fence.
It
goes
all
the
way
along
and
it's
zoned
r5,
but
there
aren't
any
residents
up
there
and
if
it's
park
I'm
not
sure
that
they're
gonna
be
putting
any
multifamily
there
in
the
future
or
not
so
there
are
no
residents
up
there.
There's
I,
don't
think
the
people
to
the
north
or
from
the
river
are
going
to
see
our
property,
which
is
back
in
inside
the
railroad,
track.
P
P
All
right,
so
you
can't
really
be
done,
but
there's
a
topographic
map
and
the
area
where
our
property
is
is
all
about
at
8:30
and
the
water,
basically
just
kind
of
stays
right
there,
but
then
the
railroad
track,
which
is
between
our
property
and
the
river,
is
higher.
So
water
cannot
flow
directly
from
the
property
to
the
river
there's
a
ditch
along
there
and
there's
other
businesses
on
the
other
side
of
the
river.
P
So
really
rain
water
falling
on
our
property.
We'll
have
plenty
of
time
and
additional
land
before
ever
flows
anywhere,
because
it'll
have
to
flow
along
the
river
till
it
finds
a
culvert
or
something
so
I'll
have
time
to
soak
into
the
ground,
and
it
won't
actually
get
to
the
river
directly
from
our
property.
P
F
E
P
They
currently
use
the
property
on
the
the
other
side
of
the
building,
and
if
you
went
there
today,
there's
cars
there
now
the
dumpsters.
We
have
usually
really
it's
only
in
the
winter
that
we
need
to
find
a
place
for
dumpsters.
We
have
1500
dumpsters,
usually
they're
out
on
projects
and
because
we've
been
very
busy,
it's
been
a
good
construction.
A
few
couple
years
we
do
have
storage
capability
at
our
transportation,
the
recycling
facility.
We
have
some
up
at
our
contractor
yard
on
lyndale.
P
We
don't
want
to
have
that
too
many
storage
or
too
many
dumpsters
and
lyndale,
because
that
that
does
have
residential
people
right
there
right
across
the
street,
so
we're
kind
of
cognizant
of
being
careful,
but
not
putting
too
many
up
there.
Our
trucks
are
up
there
too.
We
have
currently
a
spot
on
the
river
yard,
so
it's
darling
and
to
the
south
I
think
Dowling
is
where
we
have
some
of
our
backup
storage.
We
know
that's
going
away
with
the
phase
one
of
the
above,
the
falls
development
product
project,
so
we
are
still
looking.
P
H
A
E
I
think
you
know
I
think
I'll
vote
for
this.
I,
but
with
hesitation.
Frankly,
the
you
know,
I,
don't
see
really
a
basis
in
the
comprehensive
plan
for
doing
this.
But
but
you
know
we
have
engaged
in
a
lot
of
discussion
about
how
we
can
support
the
business
community
and
well.
There
are
not
jobs
associated
with
this
literal
acreage.
E
H
J
Yeah,
it's
an
intensification
of
the
use
and
I
feel
like
there's
some
more
discussion
that
could
happen
with
staff
on
alternative
compliance.
The
number
of
items
where
alternative
compliance
is
required
and
I
don't
see
anything
being
done
and
I
understand.
There
have
been
calm
stations,
but
I
would
encourage
staff
to
think
of
a
little
more
creatively,
perhaps
the
applicant
to
step
up
a
little
bit
on
contributions.
J
R
H
F
Q
N
H
F
Q
A
S
Good
afternoon
planning
Commissioner
Shanna
Sadler
here
to
present
the
application
at
47
57
Hiawatha
Avenue.
The
application
is
for
a
new
apartment
building
with
85
dwelling
units.
The
applicant
has
requested
a
variance
of
the
pedestrian
oriented
overlay
standards
to
allow
for
the
building
to
be
setback,
greater
than
8
feet
from
the
property
lines,
long
Nevada
Boulevard
and
along
Hiawatha
Avenue.
The
applicant
has
also
requested
a
conditional
use
permit
to
increase
the
maximum
height
will
talk
about
the
amended
request,
which
was
a
outlined
in
your
memorandum
today
and
then
also
site
plan
review.
S
The
subject
property
is
located
at
the
corner
of
Nevada
Boulevard
and
Hiawatha
Avenue,
it's
just
south
of
strip
mall,
and
there
is
a
shared
access
easement
across
a
portion
of
the
site,
which
kind
of
lends
itself
to
the
proposed
layout
of
the
structure.
S
But
can
provide
access
in
perpetuity
to
the
shopping
center
to
the
north
kind
of
across
its
property
line
here
at
the
northwest
corner.
So
as
the
building
sits
on
the
property
lines,
the
building
is
more
or
less
a
polygon
and
rectangular
in
shape.
The
property
lines
are
very
much
a
skew
to
comply
with
the
pedestrian
oriented
overlays
standards
of
house
setting
the
building
back
eight
feet
along
those
property
lines
would
result
in
a
building
that
would
be
very
challenged
in
order
to
provide
the
building
in
those
locations.
S
So
in
some
cases
the
building
is
set
back
quite
a
bit
a
ways
to
allow
for
that
garage
access.
Here,
it's
a
little
over
90
feet,
but
then
you
can
see
as
the
building
takes
advantage
of
the
property
lines
askew
and
locates
as
near
to
those
property
lines
as
possible
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
that
variance.
S
The
staff
report
indicates
an
alternative
recommendation
for
the
conditional
use
permit
to
increase
the
maximum
height,
so
staff
is
asking
instead
for
a
proposed
project
at
five
storeys
not
to
exceed
70
feet
to
the
to
the
to
the
roof
deck.
The
applicant
has
amended
plans
and
those
were
included
in
your
packet
today.
There
should
still
showing
a
six
story.
S
Building
but
now
they've
reduced
the
building
height
at
the
at
the
main
pair
of
hit
to
68
feet
eight
inches,
so
it
would
be
under
what
we
would
otherwise
measure
a
five-story
building,
how
we
get
to
70
feet
as
we
multiply
each
floor
of
14
feet
times,
five
to
get
to
five
storeys
seventy
feet,
and
that
was
where
the
recommendation
came
from.
It
also
was
consistent
with
the
CAC
development,
which
is
near
to
the
site.
S
The
applicant
is
also
proposing
a
new
roof
top
canopy.
There
is
a
roof
deck.
On
top
of
the
the
sixth
floor,
as
proposed,
the
height
is
measure
two.
Seventy
six
feet:
seven
and
a
fifth
height
are
inches
and
height
to
the
top,
and
then
also
the
elevator
overrun
was
reduced
in
height
from
eighty
six
feet.
Nine
inches
to
eighty
five
feet
where
staff
had
recommended
the
maximum
height
be
eighty
five
feet:
the
center
properties
within
the
shoreland
overlay
district
or
the
maximum
height
allowed
as
two
and
a
half
stories
not
to
exceed
thirty
five
feet.
S
So,
notwithstanding
the
allowance
for
height
in
the
currency,
3a
district,
the
the
maximum
allowed
height
here,
based
on
proximity
to
Minnehaha
Creek,
is
two
and
a
half
stories
not
to
exceed
thirty
five
feet.
At
the
community
level.
Meeting
on
September
30th,
the
Planning
Commission
requested
additional
site
context
and
photos
from
the
river,
and
that
has
been
provided
in
both
packets,
including
the
revised.
S
S
It
was
based
on
that
analysis
of
looking
at
the
the
proposed
building
that
staff
felt
as
though
the
additional
height
to
go
to
six
storeys
eighty
six
feet.
Nine
inches
should
be
reconsidered,
down
to
five
storeys
not
to
exceed
70
feet
to
the
top
of
the
roof
and
then
also
to
allow
for
the
elevator
overrun,
which
allows
another
15
feet
so,
as
proposed
in
the
building.
Right
now
is
at
sixty
feet,
eight
inches
to
the
main
pair
of
pipes.
Seventy
six
feet,
seven
ish
inches
to
the
top
of
the
canopy
structure.
S
The
elevator
over
run
is
285
feet.
The
applicant
is
also
eliminated
alternative
compliance
to
provide
more
than
three
materials
per
facade.
They
have
changed
the
metal
panel
to
a
seven
Tisha's
me
treehouse,
sighting
and
now
is
compile
it
with
no
more
than
three
materials
per
elevation.
The
applicant
has
also
extended
the
first
floor
exercise
room
to
take
advantage
of
more
space
along
the
elevation,
which
is
the
front
elevation
along
Hiawatha
Avenue.
So
they
no
longer
need
alternative
compliance
for
a
ground
floor,
active
functions.
S
Since
the
staff
report
was
published,
well,
I
should
say
in
staff
report,
you
have
a
copy
of
the
Longfellow
community
council.
They
are
requesting
building
height
of
no
more
than
four
storeys,
so
the
conditional
use
permit
would
still
be
required
because
again,
the
maximum
height
is
two
and
a
half
stories,
and
then
we
also
have
a
number
of
letters
of
opposition
that
were
received
in
the
last
few
days
that
were
included
with
the
memorandum
today
and
with
that
I
would
be
happy
to
take.
Any
questions
are.
H
A
T
Good
evening,
commissioners,
thank
you
for
your
time
this
evening
and
Thank
You
Shanna
for
your
overview
of
the
project.
I
think
is
very
accurate
of
what
we've
been
discussing.
I'm
Kyle
brass,
sir
I,
represent
the
developer
on
this
project.
As
shanab
reviewed
planning,
staff
has
recommended
the
approval
of
our
applications
with
three
additional
conditions
or
alternate
recommendations.
T
We
are
amenable
to
two
of
those
and
part
of
the
third
as
well.
The
condition
I
would
like
to
begin
with
relates
to
the
conditional
use
permit.
The
conditional
use
permit,
as
staff
has
recommended,
tasks
to
limit
the
height
to
five
storeys,
not
to
exceed
70
feet
to
the
top
of
the
roof
parapet
and
85
feet
to
the
top
of
the
stair
and
elevator
overrun.
T
We
are
amenable
to
the
70
foot
height
limit,
but
ask
that
the
conditional
use
permit
be
revised
to
and
updated
to
allow
for
six
storeys
versus
the
five
storeys
still
within
those
70
feet
within
the
shoreland
overlay.
It
seems
that
height
should
be
the
guiding
metric,
as
opposed
to
the
number
of
storeys,
which
alone
does
not
impact
how
the
building
is
viewed
from
the
creek
or
within
the
shore
land.
If
anything,
more
stories
makes
the
building
more
visually
and
aesthetically
appealing
than
then
limiting
to
five
very
large
tall
stories.
T
T
T
So
a
little
difficult
to
see
on
the
screen,
but
you
can
see
these
arrows
here
that
outline
we
took.
We
did
a
view
study
and
took
varying
pictures
from
different
areas
along
the
creek
and
I
want
to
just
mention.
Try
to
remember
this
is
number
one,
and
this
is
number
five,
because
it's
very
difficult
to
read,
but
these
two
arrows
on
either
side
of
the
of
the
bridge
are
most
notable
on
the
next
pages.
T
We
have
the
update.
We
have
the
views
of
our
building
within
those
various
context.
This
is
view
number
one.
This
is
view
number
one
and
the
building
is
is
clearly
visible.
But
again
this
is
one
of
the.
This
is
the
most
urban
view
and
one
of
the
to
have
most
urban
views
of
the
creek
in
this.
In
this
context,
and
then
here's
two
three
you
can
see
where
the
building
is
four
outlined.
T
T
A
H
U
Hi,
my
name
is
Angela
Cabot
Cates
ABB,
I
live
at
36
13,
East,
42nd
Street
I
also
serve
as
one
of
the
pastors
at
Holy
Trinity
Lutheran
Church,
which
is
also
in
the
Longfellow
neighborhood,
and
my
main
concern
is
with
the
businesses
that
will
be
employing
workers.
It's
my
understanding
that
they
have
a
history
of
labor
trafficking
and
I,
see
that
as
a
direct
contradiction
to
the
comprehensive
plan.
U
The
two
main
thrusts
of
the
comprehensive
plan
to
run
to
reduce
disparities
are
quotes
and
2040
Minneapolis
will
have
significantly
reduced
economic
housing,
safety
and
health
disparities
among
people
of
color
and
indigenous
people
compared
with
white
people
and
also
living
wage
jobs
in
2040.
All
Minneapolis
residents
will
have
the
training
and
skills
necessary
to
participate
in
the
economy
and
will
have
access
to
a
living
wage
with
what
their
history
of
violations
against
human
beings
and.
U
J
:,
if
the
speaker
could
return
to
the
microphone,
please
I'm
at
a
loss.
That
was
a
little
big
for
me.
So
who
exactly?
Are
we
talking
about
and
I
have
a
series
of
questions
here?
Okay,
are
you
talking
about
with
the
labor
trafficking
and
what
does
labor
trafficking
mean
and
what
history
and
what
evidence
is
there?
This
is
not
something
familiar
to
me:
I
can't
process
the
general
statements
that
you
made
without
more
specifics
sure.
U
A
Okay,
yes,
commissioner,
I'm
just
gonna
quickly
jump
in
for
a
second
I
I
did
receive
a
phone
call
for
the
record,
which
I
forwarded
for
public
record
from
mr.
McConnell
about
this
issue.
Earlier
today
and
I
told
him
what
I'm
going
to
tell
everyone
here
tonight,
which
is
that
our
purview,
unfortunately,
is
limited
to
what
directly
we
have
to
deal
with
regard
to
the
land,
use
applications
and
our
required
findings.
So
some
of
this
isn't
anything
where,
regardless
of
all
compelling
it
is
that
we
can
necessarily
await
and
on.
A
D
That
Commissioner
is
just
just
to
reiterate
that,
essentially
past
practices
of
an
applicant
can't
be
a
relevant
piece
of
your
consideration
in
land-use
deliberation.
Within
the
context
of
the
legal
findings,
we
essentially
have
to
be
blind
to
who
the
applicant
is
and
what
their
past
has
been
related
to
compliance
with
land
use
applications
or
other
rules.
V
Thank
you
and
I
guess
I
should
just
say:
I
noticed
in
the
correspondence
that
we
received
in
our
packet
today
on
that
same
issue,
there's
some
reference
made
to
current
charges
filed
against
somebody.
I
am
also
an
assistant
Hennepin,
County
attorney
I
am
NOT
involved.
In
that
case,
I
don't
know
anything
about
it.
I
haven't
worked
on
it
and,
in
addition
to
the
reasons
that
mr.
Wittenberg
has
pointed
out,
many
consider
consideration
of
that
will
play
no
role
in
my
decision
on
this
case.
C
Yes,
so
just
wondering
if,
based
on
what
we
can
consider,
will
those
other
issues
that
are
being
brought
up.
Does
this
project
then
go
to
another
body
that
can
consider
some
of
these
other
issues
that
are
being
voiced
tonight
so.
A
I
mr.
Wittenberg
addressed
the
second
party
question,
but
from
anything
that
you
hear
that
is
relevant
to
the
land
use
applications
of
forests.
In
regard
to
the
required
findings,
we
have
to
make
please
do
take
into
consideration
in
terms
of
another
body
and
what
role
that
might
play
I
will
defer
to
staff,
because
this
was
a
new
one.
For
me,
too,
I
was
a
little
bit
unsure
of
how
how
to
handle
it.
D
Just
to
be
clear,
the
land
use
applications
that
are
in
front
of
you.
The
Planning
Commission
has
final
purview
over
them
unless
they
are
appealed,
but
even
if
those
applications
are
appealed
to
the
City
Council,
the
City
Council
would
be
bound
by
the
same
limitations
that
you
are
bound
by
in
consideration
of
those
applications.
A
W
Two
things,
one
is
the
Hiawatha
corridor
and
Minneapolis
are
undergoing
and
will
be
undergoing
dramatic
increases
in
construction
in
the
construction
of
housing
and
I,
find
that
somewhat
disturbing
that
this
commission
and
the
City
Council
would
have
to
turn
a
blind
eye
if
there's
labor
trafficking
going
into
building
Hiawatha
corridor
up
I,
just
I,
that's
beyond
me,
I've
lived
in
the
neighborhood
for
a
long
long
time.
I've
been
a
union
member
for
probably
close
to
four
decades
and
to
see
this
happening
right
in
my
own.
Neighborhood
is
extremely
disturbing.
I
also
have
a
problem.
W
My
kids
were
raised
in
Minnehaha
Park
and
by
the
Falls,
and
any
kind
of
encroachment
and
I
have
to
say
that
this
is
encroachment
for
the
sake
of
even
the
idea
of
making
six
storeys
so
that
they
can
fit
more
people
in.
There
is
objectionable
to
me
and
I
think
that
you
should
not
approve
this
beyond
what
the
Longfellow
community
Council
has
already
suggested,
possibly
send
this
back
to
the
Longfellow
community
Council
for
further
consideration.
Thanks.
X
Hi
good
afternoon,
my
name
is
Lucas
Franco
I
live
at
for
137
22nd
Avenue
South
as
a
nearby
resident
I'm
here
to
express
my
concern
about
this
project.
The
Reuter
long
project
I'm
worried
about
this
project
really
for
two
central
reasons.
The
first
is
the
height
of
this
project.
I
use
the
creek
all
the
time
and
I'm
really
concerned
that
this
is
out
of
proportion
with
the
existing
properties
and
that
this
will
create
a
precedent
for
towering
facades
right
along
the
Minnehaha
Creek
and
second
I.
X
Don't
think
this
project
is
consistent
with
the
proposed
2040
comprehensive
plan
and
I
also
like
to
hear
a
bit
more
about
how
that
goes
into
the
evaluation
of
this
project.
For
you
all,
particularly
around
two
central
goals:
first,
promoting
greater
equity
and
second
promoting
living
wages.
This
project
will
potentially
undermine
these
goals.
Ruder
Walton
has
relied
on
worker
exploitation
to
build
past
projects,
one
of
the
subcontractors.
As
we've
heard
about
on
a
past
project,
Ricardo
Beatrice
was
recently
charged
by
the
Hennepin
County
attorney
with
labor
trafficking,
insurance
fraud
and
theft
by
swindle
very
serious
charges.
X
So
in
conclusion,
I'm
not
opposed
to
new
development
in
the
area,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
new
development
is
appropriate
in
scale
and
also
that
it's
done
by
developers
that
are
responsible
and
that
are
living
up
to
the
goals
of
the
twenty
forty
comp
plan
of
promoting
a
more
equitable
City
and
living
wage
jobs.
Thanks
a
lot
for
your
time.
Thank.
Y
Z
Z
AA
Sorry
hi,
my
name
is
that
work:
okay,
hi!
My
name
is
Kristen
Mel,
B,
I'm,
smart,
sorry
for
sneaking
up
here,
but
my
son's
only
gonna
last
a
little
bit
longer
and
I
live
at
3701.
38Th
Avenue
I
want
to
say
a
couple
things
one.
Not
only
am
I
a
resident
of
Longfellow
but
I'm,
also
a
Minneapolis
public
school
teacher
and
that's
important
because
of
two
of
my
main
concerns.
AA
AA
My
concern
is
the
well-being
of
the
individuals
who
build
and
make
our
city
and
the
conditions
that
families
live
in
with
those
projects
built,
and
so
my
concern
is
to
full
we've
heard
several
times,
and
if
this
isn't
enough
information
for
you,
you
can
do
the
investigation
yourself
about
the
subcontractors
that
have
worked
with
ruder
Walton.
Now
we
know
that
it's
really
convenient
to
say
they're
subcontractors,
but
it's
2018
and
I
think
we
need
to
say
that
that
excuse
doesn't
fly
anymore.
AA
People
are
well
aware
of
who
they
hire
to
work
for
them
and
if
they're
not
that's,
also
intentional
right,
it
drives
wages
down.
It
treats
people
as
less
than
human
and
Minneapolis
can
sit
here
and
say
we
have
a
plan
for
equity
in
2040,
but
we
actually
don't
want
to
think
about
what
people
are
doing
like
I,
find
that,
like
absurd
as
a
fourth
grade
teacher
I,
wouldn't
take
that
rationale
like
I,
won't
think
about
what
just
happened,
because
I'm
just
gonna
take
this
right
now.
AA
That
doesn't
even
make
any
sense
to
me
so
I'm
sort
of
horrified
at
that
not
just
about
this
project,
but
at
in
general,
like
what
does
that
mean
for
us
as
a
city?
If
we
say
we
have
these
values,
but
we
just
don't
want
to
take
in
any
information,
that's
inconvenient
at
the
time.
So
I
have
a
couple
questions
for
the
applicant
one
I'd
like
to
know
how
much
of
this
housing
is
gonna,
be
mixed
income
that
will
accept
section
8.
AA
We
don't
need
any
more
luxury
condos.
We
need
affordable,
family
housing
that
people
can
like
pay
to
live
in
with
dignity
and
not
like
have
to
work
for
jobs,
so
they
can
pay
their
rent
or
decide
that
they're
not
going
to
pay
medical
bills
and
pay
rent
a
month
right
and
the
other
thing
I'd
like
to
know.
AA
A
Z
AB
AB
AB
H
AC
AC
AC
Medical.
Ok
me
dijo
que
no
tenia
Nevada
yo
akarsha
for
images
and.
Z
AC
Z
AC
AC
Z
AD
AD
I've
lived
in
Longfellow
for
18
years
and
I've
been
active
in
my
block
Club
and
served
as
a
block
club
co-captain
for
a
couple
of
those
years.
I
also
want
to
affirm
that
Longfellow
South
Minneapolis
is,
as
many
of
you
probably
know,
very
informed
about
what
goes
on
and
I.
Only
recently
found
out
about
this
meeting
and
I
was
able
to
clear
my
calendar
because
of
my
financial
privilege,
because
I
don't
have
kids,
because
I
don't
have
to
work
a
nine-to-five
job.
AD
So
I
really
respect
what
a
previous
speaker
addressed
about
how
hard
it
is
sometimes
to
get
the
people
in
the
room
based
on
their
living
conditions.
I
also
want
to
ask
how
many
of
you
on
the
Commission
have
enjoyed
that
part
of
Minnehaha
Creek
in
the
Falls
Park.
That
is
being
considered
where
this
construction
might
go
up.
AD
I
biked
through
there
many
times,
and
we
know
that
it's
a
jewel
of
the
city
I,
think
a
trip
advisor
at
Minnehaha.
Falls
Park
is
listed
as
number
one
place
to
visit
in
the
city,
so
I'm
really
struck
by
the
elevations
that
the
applicant
provided
seemed
like
they
were
trees
that
were
in
you
know,
with
their
full
foliage
I,
didn't
see
any
and
maybe
saw
one
elevation
that
had
bare
trees,
I'd
like
to
see
more
elevations
a
winter
time
and
I.
AD
AD
AD
Historically,
that's
what
government
has
been
about
and
we're
seeing
more
and
more
pieces
of
evidence
that
this
is
how
white
supremacy
and
racism
is
perpetuated
and
I
really
have
appreciated
recent
iterations
of
the
mayor
and
city
council.
That
is
doing
what
what
we
can
as
a
city
to
address
that
proactively.
So
I
also
want
to
just
name
that
and
lift
that
up
here.
AD
As
a
long
fellow
resident,
I
was
around
when
the
development
at
West,
River,
Parkway
and
Lake
Street
was
being
considered.
It's
the
building
that
houses,
Dunn
brothers
and
Longfellow
grill,
along
with
apartments
and
I,
was
new
in
my
let's
pay
attention
to
what's
happening
in
the
city
sort
of
development,
but
the
number
of
people
who
turned
out
for
those
meetings
when
that
development
was
being
considered
really
inspired
me
and
there's
a
lot
of
concern
about
the
original
heights
that
was
planned
for
that
building.
AD
AD
It
would
transform
the
character,
negatively,
transform
the
character
of
that
part
of
Longfellow,
and
it
makes
me
think
of
corridors
like
50th
and
France
and
I.
Don't
think
people
move
into
Longfellow
neighborhood
because
they
want
to
feel
like
they're
at
15th
in
France
and
I
and
I
shop
there.
That's
fine!
It's
not
like
I
I
know
that
different
cities
have
different
characters
and
different
purposes.
I,
don't
think.
Longfellow
is
right
for
this
project.
I.
Don't
think
this
project
is
right
for
Longfellow.
AD
AD
Too,
was
a
little
horrified
to
see
that
some
of
the
practices
that
fit
told
colleagues
here
have
already
spoken
to
and
I'm
glad
that
there's
some
material
out
there
for
us
to
learn
about
some
of
these
practices
that
endanger
Minnesotans
and
Minneapolis
residents
and
workers.
I'd
like
to
I'd
like
to
think
that
we
pay
attention
to
the
quality
care
that
we
provide
our
workers,
whether
they
are
mowing
our
lawns
or
shoveling.
Our
driveways
are
building
our
buildings.
AD
A
AE
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Sarah
Lazar
woods,
I'm
a
resident
of
the
how
neighborhood,
which
is
represented
by
the
Longfellow
community
Council.
As
you
can
see,
there's
been
a
lot
of
speakers,
so
I
don't
feel
like
I
necessarily
need
to
add
too
much
more
to
that
you've
gotten
to
hear
a
little
bit
about
the
working
conditions
of
the
workers
who
might
be
working
on
this
project
might
experience
under
Ritter
Walton
I
just
want
to
really
encourage
all
of
you.
AE
What's
going
with
Hennepin
County
the
charges
that
are
against
the
subcontractor
who's
been
working
with
Ritter
Walton
I
think
you
have
a
responsibility
to
the
city
to
do
that
and
if
you're
making
decisions
about
development,
these
aren't
just
kind
of
bland
decisions
that
are
about
buildings.
These
are
actually
decisions
that
make
a
difference
in
people's
lives.
So
I'm
just
gonna
end
my
comments
there
and
I
hope
that
you
really
consider
that.
Thank
you.
Thank.
AF
Hi,
my
name
is
Meryl
Payne
I'm,
the
co-director,
it's
a
tool
at
3740,
21st,
Avenue,
South,
hey
I,
think
we've
heard
a
lot
of
comments
and
concerns
both
about
labor
practices
as
well
as
variances
that
have
been
requested.
A
lot
of
these
concerns
did
not
come
before
Longfellow
and
they,
the
Longfellow
community
council,
was
not
aware
of
these
concerns.
AF
So
I
would
request
and
ask
that
this
be
put
back
to
the
community
council
for
members
of
the
community,
actually
really
have
a
deeper
conversation
about
this
before
a
project
we're
going
to
go
forward
both
all
of
the
concerns
that
have
come
up
about
the
labor
as
well
as
the
variances.
Thank
you
thank.
A
T
Appreciate
the
Planning
Commission
making
comments
about
sort
of
what
is
the
purview
of
the
Planning
Commission?
What
can
be
taken
into
consideration
when
reviewing
an
application
like
this,
but
due
to
the
serious
nature
of
the
statements
that
were
made
here
this
evening?
I
just
feel
like
it's
upon
you
to
state
that
writer
Waltons
does
not
and
has
not
engaged
in
labor
trafficking.
These
practices
are
deplorable
and
we're
in
no
way
condone
them.
Writer
Walton
is
currently
working
on
organizing
a
local
industry-wide
meeting
to
address
industry
practices
that
are
of
concern
in
the
broader
industry.
T
AG
Hello,
my
name
is
Eduardo
Morales
I
just
wanted
to
bring
attention
to
the
concerns
that
my
colleagues
have
put
on
the
table.
I
grew
up
here
in
south
Minneapolis
and
a
culture
where
a
lot
of
the
Hispanic
kids
grew
up
working
on
construction
sites.
The
nars
sites
were
the
watson
sites.
This
I
I
I
lived.
So
these
are
straight
facts.
AG
We're
calling
on
ruta
walton
to
be
a
leader
in
development
and
sit
down
as
he
told
and
see
how
we
can
help
each
other
out,
so
we
can
create
better
conditions
for
workers,
and
so
we
can
minimize
minimalize
labor
trafficking
here
in
minneapolis.
As
I
said
before,
I
grew
up.
South
minneapolis
went
to
anderson,
open
middle
school
and
most
of
those
kids
worked
in
construction
and,
as
I
moved
on
into
roosevelt
high
school,
most
of
those
kids
of
color
worked
in
construction.
AG
H
A
J
C
J
I
just
like
to
explain
my
reasoning
behind
that.
At
the
Committee
of
the
Whole
meeting,
we
did
ask
the
developer
to
bring
forward
the
visual
shots
from
the
Minnehaha
Creek
area
and
I
appreciate
that
that
was
done.
I
anticipated
that
there
would
be
less
visual
impact
even
on
those
two
areas
around
the
bridge.
E
I'm
not
sure
how
many
were
on
this
yet,
but
I
was
going
to
suggest
a
lower
height
as
well.
I
do
think
I
guess
as
too
high
I
guess.
My
question
for
commissioner
coma
is:
do
you
have
from
pictures
a
height
that
looks
right
or
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
do
is
see
if,
if
35
feet
is
right
or
if
you
know
for
if
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
what,
but
can
you
elaborate
a
little
bit
on
the
specifics
of
the
height
you
see
as
appropriate?
J
R
I'm
just
gonna
say
you
know
you,
you
would
be
able
to
see
it
two
and
a
half
story
building
from
the
angles
where
you
can
see
the
building
from
the
creek
currently
and
so
I
I,
don't
know
a
lot
of
the
surely
over
these
stuff.
If
you
look,
we
kind
of
apply
this
irregularly
and
I
think
this
is
the
spot
where
there
are
a
lot
of
amenities
downs.
You
can
return
to
station
where
we're
building
you
know
also
a
fairly
large
building
and
I.
A
AH
AG
A
A
A
E
E
So
when
we
say
we
don't
have
the
authority
to
act,
it's
not
that
were
think
that
and
if
she
was
inconvenient
it's
that
if
we
were
to
put
a
condition
on
this,
it
would
not
hold
up
in
court.
There's
absolutely
no
way
that
it
will
hold
up
in
court
the
thing
that
does
hold
up
in
court,
his
action
by
Hennepin
County
Attorney's
Office.
So
there
are
some
bodies
of
government
which
have
a
lot
of.
E
Jurisdiction
over
a
lot
of
issues,
you
know
and
then
mayor's
office
and
city
council
were
mentioned
here
tonight.
They
do
have
jurisdiction
over
issues
have
to
do
with
labor
standards
and
wages
and
living
conditions
and
so
forth,
and
and
so
they
can
act
in
ways
that
will
hold
up
in
court.
But
it
doesn't
matter
for
us
to
act
on
something
that
we
have
no
authority
over,
which
does
not
mean
that
it
is
frustrating
to
us
not
feel
to
act,
but
but
it
doesn't
matter
if
we
do
so.
E
E
It's
not
that
if
we
acted
that
that
could
change
something
it
it
won't,
but
there
are
other
bodies
where
it
will
so
I
would
encourage
the
people
who
came
here
tonight
and
who
are
fighting
for
these
issues
to
focus
on
those
other
bodies,
including
the
council
in
their
state,
Reps,
County,
Commissioners,
and
but
these
small
little
Commission's,
that
are
single
issue
focused
just
don't
have
a
lot
of
authority.
We
can
like,
as
somebody
said,
we're
just
you
know,
doing
the
boring
decisions
about
the
buildings,
but
that's
what
that's.
E
H
A
J
A
That
may
or
may
not
be
working
for
you,
since
we
are
not
the
judicial
authority
on
that
on
that
matter.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
everybody,
though,
for
taking
their
time
and
coming
down
here,
because
I
do
think
I
do
think
it
was.
It
was
quite
worthwhile
whether
or
not
you
whether
or
not
you
have
what
you
wanted.
We
had
to
make
our
decisions
based
strictly
on
what
we
had
a
purview
to
do.
So
that's
what
we
had
the
Long's.
C
To
thank
the
commissioners
for
is
as
someone
whose
thing
up
here
going
well,
why
can't
we
act
and
because
other
issues,
thank
you
for
letting
me
know
why
that's
important,
but
I
also
want
to
say
the
people
came
to
speak.
It's
not
that
you
wasted
your
time.
This
was
very
helpful
to
shine
the
light
on
what
is
going
on
and
what's
happening,
and
so
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone
for
tonight.
A
A
AI
It's
an
irregularly
shaped
parcel
it's
located
between
the
neighborhood
commercial
note
at
43rd
and
Sheridan
and
Lake
Harriet.
As
you
can
see
from
the
zoning
map.
There
are
there's
a
large
variety
of
zoning
districts
and
uses
in
the
area.
So
there
is
our
one
zoning
directly
to
the
east
of
the
site
and
our
four
zoning
on
all
other
sites.
AI
The
site
includes
a
single-family
home
which
would
be
demolished
as
part
of
this
proposal.
The
proposal
is
a
three
story:
building
with
36
dwelling
units
and
36
enclosed
parking
spaces.
You
may
recall
that
in
2017
the
same
applicant
came
forward
with
a
proposal
for
a
four-story
building
and
at
that
time
the
Planning
Commission
approved
the
project,
but
for
a
three-story
building.
Instead
of
the
requested
four
storeys
and
the
City
Council
upheld
that
decision
and
the
applicant
is
now
proposing
a
different
project.
AI
So
this
is
no
longer
a
cluster
development,
it's
just
a
single
apartment
building
and
it's
at
a
lower
height
at
the
3
storeys
and
42
feet
that
was
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission
last
year.
There
are
a
number
of
applications
required,
so
there's
the
Cu
P
the
conditional
use
permit
to
increase
heighten
in
the
shoreland
overlay
district,
which
allows
a
total
height
of
two
and
a
half
stories,
and
so
this
is
a
half
story.
AI
Increased
request
of
three
storeys
there's,
also
a
variance
to
reduce
the
minimum
lot
area,
variances
to
reduce
the
minimum
front
yard
from
29
feet,
to
20,
about
20,
to
20,
to
22
feet,
to
allow
the
building
wall
and
to
12
feet
to
allow
the
canopy
along
the
east
side.
There
are
going
to
be
two
ground-floor
patios,
so
that
applicant
is
requesting
reduction
to
four
feet
to
allow
those
patios
and
then
along
the
rear
yard.
AI
So
here
are
the
elevations.
The
primary
materials
is
pretty
simple:
pallet
brick
is
the
primary
material,
and
then
there
are
metal
accents.
You
can
see
from
the
North
elevation
that
that
there
is
garage
access
from
directly
from
the
alley,
so
that
would
include
access
for
for
enclosed
parking
spaces,
as
well
as
the
trash
room
and
then
along
the
west
side
of
the
building.
There's
there's
a
driveway
that
leads
to
the
underground
parking
area.
AI
AI
Sorry
so
this
here's,
the
site
plants-
you
can
see
the
driveway
situation.
I
was
telling
you
about
and
I'll
just
note
that
this
is
the
location
where
the
patios
are
encroaching
right
here,
and
so
that
requires
this
step
back
and
then
here's
the
four
foot
setback
on
the
on
the
back
and
then
here's
the
canopy
in
the
front.
The
29
foot
step
back
is
based
on
the
established
front
yard.
So
most
of
the
building
would
be
pretty
much
in
line
with
that.
AI
But
it's
the
the
patio
that
I'm,
sorry,
it's
the
canopy,
that's
encroaching
in
the
front
yard,
so
the
the
conditional
use
permit
findings
I'm,
just
gonna
summarize
what
staff
found
in
the
staff
report,
so
the
the
shoreland
obviously
allows
up
to
two
and
a
half
stories
without
a
Cu
P.
The
r4
district
allows
up
to
four
stories,
so
the
proposed
building
is
14
feet
shorter
than
what
is
allowed
by
right
in
the
r4
without
the
shoreland.
AI
There
is
already
development
on
this
block
are
within
a
block
of
this
area.
That
is
three
stories
or
taller,
and
so
that's
already
in
the
shoreline
overlay
district.
It's
already
developed
at
three
stories
or
taller
staff
finds
that
the
development
would
not
compromise
the
shoreland
area
adjacent
to
wake
Harriet.
AI
The
proposal
also
greatly
exceeds
the
minimum
landscaped
area
and
window
requirements,
and
this
helps
to
offset
the
height
request
for
inference,
since
our
four
allows
up
to
85
percent
of
the
site
to
be
impervious
and
the
applicant
is
proposing
58
percent
they're
also
exceeding
the
tree
and
shrub
requirement.
The
applicant
has
proposed
to
vary
the
massing,
building,
setbacks
and
architectural
features
of
the
development
to
address
light
and
air
of
the
proposed
building.
The
overall
height
of
the
building
is
42
feet.
AI
Well,
the
closest
residential
home
to
the
east
is
85
feet
away,
and
then
the
nearest
residential
home
to
the
west
is
37
feet
away
at
the
nearest
point
and
then
the
building
is
also
separated
from
other
buildings
on
the
north
and
south
sides
by
the
public
street.
In
the
alley,
sorry,
the
shadow
study
does
show
that
there
would
be
some
shadowing
of
right
before
sunrise
and
before
sunset
during
the
summer
in
winter
months.
But
midday
is
not.
Midday
shadowing
is
not
expected
throughout
the
year
shadow.
It.
AI
The
shadowing
impact
caused
by
this
building
is
not
greater
than
the
shadowing
impact
caused
by
other
existing
buildings
in
the
area.
We
also
find
that
the
building
is
380
feet
west
of
the
protected
water
and
there
there
are
a
number
of
properties,
trees,
a
Parkway
and
also
public
street
that
separate
the
site
from
the
protected
water.
Here's
a
drawing
that
was
submitted
by
the
applicant.
That
shows
you
how
the
site
line
and
the
height
would
be
perceived
at
the
wake.
AI
I'll
also
cover
the
minimum
lot
area,
variance,
which
is
a
comment.
That's
come
up
in
a
number
of
the
comments
before
you,
so
the
allowed
minimum
lot
area
is
1041
square
feet
per
unit
or
up
to
26
units
without
a
variance.
The
applicant
is
proposing
$36
units
and
that's
a
minimum
lot
area
of
751
square
feet
based
on
a
lot
area
of
the
property
and
I'd
like
to
note
that
lot
area
is
an
issue
that
comes
up
typically
in
r3
and
r4.
AI
AI
Building
that
would
be
allowed
by
right
could
have
larger
bedrooms
or
a
larger
unit
size
and
that
could
potentially
have
more
people
than
a
building
that
has
36
units,
and
this
proposed
building
has
smaller
unit
sizes,
and
so
it
doesn't
address
actual
number
of
people
who
could
potentially
live
in
this
building.
So
it's
it's
sort
of
limited
in
that
respect,
and
then
another
point
is
that
we
find
that
the
proposal
does
comply
with
provide
providing
housing
of
different
sizes
and
income
levels
in
different
areas
of
the
city.
AI
AI
AK
John
gross
with
the
developers
on
this
project
and
as
we'd
like
to
thank
the
Commission
with
mailing
for
bringing
us
forward
as
mailing
mentioned,
we
were
here
before
and
we
were
going
to
do
a
intending
to
do
a
four-unit,
I'm,
sorry,
a
four-story
condo
building
and
the
limit
that
the
city
gave
us
was
three,
so
it
took
a
while
to
kind
of
figure
out
that
could
not
economically
work
but
come
back
with
this
project
and
him
doing
this
project.
We
were
trying
to
be
responsive
to
any
input.
AK
We
got
on
the
condo,
so
it
deliberately
has
no
balconies.
We
had
heard
from
the
neighbors
on
the
east
side
towards
the
lake
that
they
didn't
like
the
ideas
of
the
balconies
on
the
condos,
so
we
don't
have
that
we
we
did
not
max
out
the
lot
so
there's
light
and
air.
We
put
a
lot
of
effort
into
using
higher
grade
materials
and
and
just
making
this
beautiful
project
that's
possible
and
request
again
for
the
36
units.
AK
AK
AK
A
AL
But
they
are
requesting
numerous
variances,
as
well
as
a
conditional
use
permit,
which
will
make
the
building
both
taller
and
also
many
more
units.
You
know,
then
it
then
it
would
have
if
those
variances
weren't
granted.
So
let
me
just
quickly
start
with
the
personal
impact
and
I
would
like
to
bring
back
the.
AL
Okay,
so
here's
the
proposed
building
here,
which
goes
all
the
way
from
here
to
here-
here's
our
house,
here's
the
kind
of
building
next
door
and
then
you've
got
various
large
houses
that
are
along
Lake,
Harriet
Parkway.
The
first
thing
I'd
like
to
talk
about
in
it.
Obviously
it
only
affects
a
few
of
us,
but
it's
a
very
large
effect,
and
that
is
the
loss
of
privacy.
AL
So
what
you
might
not
realize
is
that
underneath
our
backyard
and
underneath
the
backyard
of
this
kind
of
building
next
door,
this
little
box,
incidentally,
is
just
a
it's,
not
a
structure.
It's
a
it's
a
skylight!
So
what's
underneath
that
whole
kind
of
really
big
backyard
is
an
underground
parking
lot.
Some
of
it
is
owned
by
us
for
our
house,
and
some
of
it
is
owned
by
the
building
next
door.
So
what's
on
top
of,
that
is
just
a
foot
and
a
half
of
soil.
AL
So
what
that
means
is
that,
right
now,
you've
got
a
really
broad
expanse,
with
not
a
lot
in
the
way
of
shrubbery
and
so
on.
We
could
conceivably
plant
trees
right
along
the
periphery,
but
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
create
a
private
backyard,
which
means
this
is
going
to
be
basically
a
fishbowl
situation
for
us,
which
basically
means
we're
not
going
to
be
using
that
backyard.
I
mean
it's
just
it's.
It's
not
a
good
situation.
AL
For
half
of
the
plot,
the
half
that
was
the
Brenda
Yulin
house
I
mean
there
was
some
controversy
around
that
too
because
of
its
historical
value,
but
it
was
not
in
good
shape
and
it
was
kind
of
an
eyesore
and
I
think
this
building
would
be
nicer
than
that,
but
the
other
half
of
the
plot
is
a
100
year
old
home
that
was
beautifully
remodeled
and
expanded.
In
the
last
10
years,
it's
a
beautiful
house
and
if
I'd
known
I
had
the
overhead
projector
I
would
have
brought
a
picture
for
you.
AL
AL
AL
I
mean
multiple
different
kinds
of
dwellings
and
that
one
of
our
goals
is
to
have
like
not
all
single
family
homes
or
all
of
this
are
all
bad,
but
a
mixture.
We
had
a
mixture
previously
the
north
side
of
44th
Street,
just
on
the
block
from
Lake
Harriet
Parkway
up
to
Upton.
We
had
two
years
ago,
five
single-family
homes
and
something
like
five
different
multiple-use
I
mean
multiple
family
buildings,
everything
from
four
plexes
up
to
pretty
large
buildings.
AL
AL
AL
Let's
talk
about
traffic
for
just
a
second
traffic,
was
put
in
your
staff
report
as
being
yeah
traffic's,
not
a
problem,
maybe
I'm,
sorry,
not
traffic
parking
and
the
fact
that
they're
putting
36
spaces
underneath
the
building
is
very
good.
But
let's
be
real,
there's
going
to
be
additional
demand
for
street
parking
generated
by
this
building.
First
of
all,
those
places
are
extra
cost.
So
some
of
these
tenants
are
going
to
choose
not
to
park
there.
AL
They're
going
to
some
of
some
tenants
will
have
multiple
vehicles
and
something
there
will
be
guests,
and
some
of
these
apartments
are,
you
know
one-bedroom
and
larger,
and
there
could
be
multiple
cars,
so
yeah
big
deal,
except
if
you've
ever
tried
to
park
around
where
we
live
there.
It's
really
tough
in
the
best
of
circumstances,
so
that's
a
problem.
It
will
potentially
affect
the
local
businesses.
AL
We've
got
some
really
great
little
businesses
and
when
in
health,
but
we're
reaching
the
point
where
people
won't
be
able
to
come
because
they
won't
be
able
to
find
a
place
to
park.
So
that's
one
concern.
The
other
concern
is
the
access
to
this
building.
Now
every
other
multi-family
dwelling
on
4th
Street
I
believe
I
was
out
there.
AL
Checking
today
has
access
from
44th
Street,
meaning
there's
a
driveway
that
goes
back
and
down,
and
you
know
the
parking
is
underneath
and
some
of
its
behind
and
so
on
this
one
it's
going
to
be
accessed
through
a
alleyway
off
of
Upton.
The
alleyway
is
between
two
businesses,
creative
kids,
stuff
on
one
side
and
B
below
on
the
other
side-
and
we
all
know
you
know
people
may
not
be
there,
but
there
will
be
some
equivalent
shop
there.
AL
The
the
entry
to
that
le
is
so
narrow
that
the
parking
there's
parking
on
either
side
for
their
businesses
and
it's
angled.
So
you
think.
Okay,
it's
you
know
it's
angled,
okay,
I'm
gonna
park
here
it's
angled
and
then
you
realize,
when
you're
trying
to
get
out
that
either
you're
gonna
back
out
on
to
Upton
or
you're
gonna
have
to
turn
around
somewhere
because
it's
just
sort
of
a
no-man's
land
back
there.
So
we've
got
a
lot
of
concern
around
36,
more
cars
coming
in
and
out
of
an
area,
that's
very
heavy
pedestrian.
AL
AL
My
conjecture
I
mean
these
guys
they're
trying
really
hard,
but
they've
come
up
twice
now
with
proposals
that
have
required
a
lot
of
variances
because
they're,
basically
too
big
and
here's
another
example.
Why
aren't
they
putting
access
from
44th
Street?
Probably
they
need
that
space
because
they
need
every
single
square
foot
to
make
this
economically
viable
for
them.
AL
H
H
AM
AH
Good
evening,
commissioners,
thank
you
for
your
time
tonight.
My
name
is
Joseph
Schmidt
I
love
that
2607
West
44th
Street,
just
across
the
street,
from
the
project
I'm.
Also,
the
president
of
the
West
Lake
bridge
condominium
association,
the
building
which
we
live
in
with
our
family,
on
the
corner
there
and
I
come
tonight.
S
of
two
things
from
you
guys
is
to
deny
the
height
variation
requests
in
the
unit
request.
AH
We
are
living
amongst
the
2040
plan,
now
one
of
the
things
that
maybe
they
have
been
pointing
out
in
the
planning
stuff
from
let's
like
area
parkway
up
to
up
to
the
Avenue
on
the
north
side
of
that
street.
That's
no
one
more
dizzy
route,
so
from
November
15th
through
April
1st
every
year.
We
need
to
circle
around
the
blocks
a
couple
more
times,
so
we
have
a
couple
of
kids
with
cars
they
have
to
park
on
the
street.
AH
We
usually
park
a
block
from
our
unit
right
now
up
on
the
hill
and
if
you
look
around
the
corner
of
44th,
if
you
go
to
the
south
on
West
Lake,
Harriet
Park
right
there
there's
two
buildings
right
next
to
us
and
both
of
those
units
both
of
those
buildings
have
no
allowed
at
parking
for
their
tenants.
So,
with
this
building
here,
I've
been
to
I'm
in
the
represent
that
anyone
can
develop.
AH
I
just
ask
that
we
develop
in
site
the
guidelines
of
the
shoreline
overlay
and
the
city's
zoning
and
planning
guidance,
and
that
we
shouldn't
give
up
our
quality
of
life
in
our
neighborhood
to
enrich
a
developer
and
so
again,
I
strongly
urge
you
guys
to
deny
the
variance
on
the
heights
and
of
the
units
and
goes
back
to.
This
is
a
huge
box
sitting
on
to
current
residential
lots
and
it's
going
to
greatly
affect
the
quality
of
life
in
our
neighborhood
and
I
again
to
26
units
might
fit
in
there
and
again.
AH
This
building
has
no
guest
parking
allowed
it
for
people-
and
this
is
the
developer-
has
told
us.
The
tenants
will
be
paying
additional
for
parking
in
the
building,
so
if
I'm
going
there
out
of
college
looking
at
a
place
to
live
by
the
lakes
and
stuff
I'm,
not
gonna
pay
for
that
parking,
I'm
gonna
try
to
park
in
the
street
which
again
personally
on
Sunday.
AH
Don't
know
how
this
all
works
with
traffic
planning
and
zoning
and
stuff,
but
currently
I
mean
go
out
there
any
week
and
a
and
look
at
the
traffic
and
people
trying
to
get
in
and
out
of
the
two
businesses
and
they're
trained
to
back
out
of
that
alley
way
into
up
den,
and
it's
always,
you
know,
something's
going
on
there,
the
cars
honking
and
stuff
like
that,
but
I
mean
that's.
Something
in
this
project
needs
to
be
addressed.
Okay,
why?
We
don't
have
access
off
44th,
but
again
we
brought
that
up
at
the
city.
AH
Linden
in
the
hill
city
counts
me
with
the
developer
and
we
all
agreed.
That
might
be
another
bad
idea,
because
44th
is
such
a
Raceway
down
to
the
lake
and
we've
always
are
dealing
with
traffic
high
speed
traffic
on
that
road
way
down
to
the
lake.
So
again,
just
for
the
neighborhood
and
livability
of
our
homes.
There
I
just
asked
of
you
to
deny
the
variance
on
the
height
and
the
number
of
units
for
this
development.
Thank
you
thank.
L
My
name
is
Linda
Allen
Sperry
I
live
at
41:25
du
Pont
Aven
himself
and
I'm
here
to
speak
about
the
history
of
the
area
and
the
historic
preservation
which
Minneapolis
has
a
history
of
not
preserving
buildings
and
I'm
concerned
about
tearing
down
a
perfectly
good
century-old
house
that
will
have
to
go.
If
this
is
approved,
I'd
like
to
see
more
concern
about
the
historic
structures
in
our
city.
L
That's
one
of
the
things
that
attracted
me
to
Minneapolis
in
the
first
place
was
all
the
charming
and
livable
houses
that
I
saw,
and
this
project
has
as
much
charm
as
a
Kmart,
so
I
would
I
would
like
to
ask
not
to
tear
down
the
existing
house.
The
Yulin
house
is
already
gone,
but
we
have
one
house
there
that
is
still
part
of
the
fabric
of
the
neighborhood
and
it
will
change
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
to
keep
tearing
down
the
houses
and
putting
in
big
boxes.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
AN
My
name
is
Pat
to
tante.
I
live
right
across
the
street
at
2617,
West
44th.
In
fact,
I
bought
the
home
of
the
developer
John
gross
a
year
ago
and
I
moved
here
after
a
lifetime
of
64
years
in
Wisconsin,
some
people
feel
I
left
Wisconsin,
because
I
knew
what
was
going
to
happen
to
Green
Bay
and
figured
out
what
was
going
to
happen
with
the
Vikings.
That's
not
the
case.
I
am
a
marathon
runner
have
spent
a
lot
of
years
running
around
they
carry
it
and
I
went
to
school
at
st.
AN
Thomas,
nine
of
my
12
grandkids
live
up
here.
My
wife
and
I
wanted
to
come
and
live
in
a
very
'print
special
part
of
the
Twin
Cities,
which
Linden
Hills
is
I,
can't
claim
to
have
the
history
that
these
people
do,
but
I
can
tell
you
they're
a
passionate
bunch,
and
rightly
so,
but
I'm
a
little
bit
heartbroken
when
John
and
I
and
in
no
way
do
I
believe
he
misled
me
because
I
think
he's
an
outstanding
guy
the
whole
my
baud
is
beautiful.
AN
It's
very
unique,
but
I've
started
negotiating
on
this
property
in
late
October
of
seventeen
and
we
closed
a
year
ago,
Saturday
and
December,
first
and
unbeknownst
to
me
when
John
and
I
talked
about
that
vacant
lot
across
the
street.
He
was
very
forthright
with
me
that
he
owned
it
and
that
the
home
across
the
street,
which
is
a
beautiful
single-family
home
which
is
operating
I,
think
as
a
Abyan
Airbnb,
it's
beautiful.
AN
I
was
disheartened
to
learn
and
not
until
this
issue
started
to
elevate
that
that
deal
had
actually
been
voted
against
between
the
time
I
had
negotiated
and
John
had
accepted
my
offer
and
closed
now,
I
can't
honestly
say
if
I
would
have
known
what
was
on
the
potential.
That
would
have
changed
my
mind
because
I
do
love
that
home
I
do
love
that
area,
I'm,
surrounded
by
apartments,
I
love
the
neighborhood,
I
love
the
diversity
of
the
people,
I'm
concerned
about
parking
I'm
concerned
about
traffic.
AN
That
is
a
pathway
to
that
lake,
but
I'm
baffled
how
we
can
casually
go
from
8
to
36
units.
It
just
seems
so
casual
to
me
and
I've
sat
and
thank
you
all
for
what
you
do.
I've
been
on
that
side
and
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
front
of
this
type
of
meeting
and
I
applaud
you
for
your
efforts
and
I
know
you
do
your
very,
very
best
and
I
know
you
need
to
serve
the
majority
of
the
people
and
I'm
not
here
about
my
personal
personally.
AN
I
would
like
to
suggest
that
my
experience
has
taught
me
one
thing
that
normally
the
rules,
the
zoning
rules
are
put
in
place
with
an
awful
lot
of
thought
and
it's
a
very
slippery
slope
once
we
start
to
allow
variances,
because
where
do
you
draw
the
line
and
all
of
a
sudden,
we
go
up
eight
feet
and
the
next
project
goes
up
another
two.
It
doesn't
seem
like
much
but
to
me
from
eight
units
to
36
units
seems
like
an
awful
lot,
so
my
suggestion
is
I'm
all
for
the
development
within
the
rules.
AN
I
would
ask
that
you
do
not
allow
any
of
these
variances.
We
can
build
a
beautiful
property,
maintaining
everything
we
want
to
do
for
now
and
for
the
2040
within
the
guidelines
that
I
think
have
been
established
by
some
pretty
smart
well
thought
people.
So
thank
you.
I
appreciate
all
your
efforts.
Thank.
Q
A
M
AM
E
You
know
I
think
I,
understand
that
I
think
that
the
as
of
right,
you
know
two
point.
Five
stories
versus
versus
the
three
stories
is
functionally
the
same
in
terms
of
the
window
height
looking
in
I
realize.
If
this
is
a
greater
density
but
I,
you
know,
I
hear
that,
but
but
I
think
practically
speaking.
This
is
something
that
we
should.
Q
A
H
Q
E
Very
briefly,
this
is
well
you
know
in
terms
of
the
the
density
of
the
units,
I
think
and
I
think
the
concern
about
parking,
which
is
really
the
main
concern
there.
You
know
this
is
is
near
very
walkable
neighborhood,
which
I
think
is
really
important,
and
it
is
near
the
number
six
bus
line
which
just
starting
meetings
I'm.
E
Turning
that
into
a
bus,
rapid
transit,
it's
not
only
a
horizon
but
I
do
think
that
that
allowing
density
and
and
frankly
it
allowing
for
and
and
for
separating
the
parking
pricing
from
the
units,
there's
actually
a
really
good
practice
from
a
long-term
planning
standpoint.
It
reduces
the
the
cost
per
unit,
so
the
cost
of
the
parking
space
is
not
baked
into
that
unit
cost
and
it
provides
an
incentive
to
not
have
a
car
in
a
place
where
you
actually
have
transit
options
and
so
I
think.
AO
F
F
B
A
F
H
F
H
Q
AD
M
M
A
B
Okay,
the
next
project
before
you
is
located
at
23
25,
East,
38th,
Street
and
3812
24th
Avenue
south.
This
is
a
project
in
the
12th
Lord
in
the
Standish
neighborhood
you'll
notice
that
the
still
fronting
along
East,
38th,
Street,
number
23
25,
is
currently
split
zone
between
the
c1
and
the
r1.
A
district
and
the
southernmost
parcel
which
is
currently
occupied
by
a
single-family
home
is
also
done
for
the
r1
a
that
northern
most
parcel
is
currently
occupied
by
a
vacant
gas
filling
station.
B
This
is
the
site
plan
for
the
proposed
structure.
It
includes
a
retail
space
fronting
along
East
30th
Street
on
the
north
end
of
the
parcel
that
wraps
around
slightly
onto
24th,
Avenue
South
and
then
the
rest
of
24th
Avenue
South
is
lined
with
residential
Lobby
and
amenity
spaces.
The
principal
entrance
for
the
residential
portion
of
the
building
is
also
located
on
24th
Avenue
South,
and
then
there
are
two
planned
entrances
for
the
retail
uses
along
38th.
B
The
application
or
the
project
includes
several
applications
and
as
you'll
remember
in
our
discussions
and
committee
the
whole.
This
is
I
believe
the
first
project
to
request
the
split
zoning
overlay
district
in
order
to
allow
for
two
zoning
districts
within
one
project.
So
the
northern
half
of
the
2325
parcel
will
remain
zone
for
c1
and
the
southern
two-thirds
of
the
project
are
requesting
a
rezoning
to
the
r5
district
for
the
residential
uses
on
that
portion
of
the
site.
B
As
far
as
the
analysis
goes,
it's
a
little
bit
complicated
because
certain
aspects
of
each
zoning
district
will
apply
to
certain
aspects
of
the
site.
The
lower
of
the
intensity
in
terms
of
FA,
R
and
height
applies
to
the
entire
site,
where
by
yard,
setbacks
will
apply
to
the
relevant
portion
of
the
site
in
terms
of
the
zoning
district
that
applies
to
that
part
of
the
project.
So
I'll
go
through
the
applications
in
the
list
here
and
if
there
are
questions
about
that,
I'm
happy
to
try
to
address
them.
B
This
is
for
the
retail
component
in
the
project,
so
the
project
is
proposing
31,
enclosed
parking
spaces
in
an
at-grade
parking
garage,
that's
accessed
out
of
the
alley
via
two
garage
entrances,
which
you
can
see
on
the
site
plan
here
that
is
meeting
the
minimum
requirement
for
the
residential
portion
of
the
project.
The
project
does
qualify
for
a
50%
reduction
and
minimum
parking
requirements
because
of
its
proximity
to
the
East
30th
Street
light
rail
station.
B
There
is
a
variance
to
increase
the
maximum
floor
area
ratio
from
two
point:
three,
eight
to
two
point:
four:
six
again,
the
maximum
fer
in
this
case
is
being
set
by
the
c1
district.
The
r5
district
would
have
a
somewhat
higher
fer
if
it
were
applied
to
the
entire
site.
They
do
qualify
for
a
bonus
bonus
for
including
enclosed
parking.
B
As
a
part
of
the
proposal,
there
was
a
variance,
reduce
the
minimum
front
yard
of
environment
along
24th
Avenue
from
22
feet
to
eight
feet,
for
the
proposed
par
5
for
another
site
that
22
foot
front
yard
is
being
established
by
the
single-family
residence
immediately
to
the
south.
So
it's
somewhat
larger
than
the
required
front
yard
that
would
be
applicable
via
the
underlying
zoning
district.
B
There
is
a
variance
reduced
to
minimum
interior
side
yard
along
the
South
property
line
from
11
feet
to
5
feet.
So
that's
that
yard,
that's
adjacent
to
the
lower
scale,
single-family
residences
to
the
south
and
then
a
variance
reduce
the
minimum
rear
yard
along
the
alley
from
11
feet
to
5
feet,
as
a
variance
should
increase
at
the
maximum
lot
coverage,
and
that
again
is
just
for
the
r5
portion
of
the
site
from
70%
to
78%
and
then
site
plan
review
for
a
new
four-story
mixed-use
building
so
kind
of
a
mouthful
there.
B
The
fourth
story
would
actually
meet
the
setback
requirement
for
in
this
particular
zoning
district.
If
that
were
the
extent
of
the
building
wall
and
that's
to
provide
light
in
there
to
those
lower
scale
residential
uses,
the
building
itself
is
composed
of
brick
cladding
along
the
East
38th
Street
elevation
and
a
mixture
of
fiber
cement
and
metal
panel,
some
renderings,
showing
that
retail
space
at
the
corner
of
38th
and
24th.
B
AO
Thank
you
I
think
you
did
a
great
job
describing
the
project.
Obviously,
we've
been
before
the
most
of
you
and
the
committee
of
the
whole
and
we
started
the
project,
probably
10,
8
or
9
or
10
months
ago,
and
the
neighborhood.
The
developer,
is
also
met
with
him
sort
of
continually
throughout
the
process.
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
great
deal
of
items.
I
wanted
to
add
that
Peter
hasn't
already
covered.
I.
Think
he's
covered
all
the
young.
All
the
subject
matter
pretty
well
Rob
did
you
want
to
add
anything.
AP
Good
evening,
Rob
Dube
now
with
the
yellow
tree
I
live
at
46
in
Park.
Just
want
to
make
know
kind
of
that
process
of
working
with.
You
know
some
of
the
stakeholders
neighbors
initially
you
know,
meeting,
had
a
couple,
see
no
neighborhood
groups
meeting
with
members
on
site
and
then
finally
meeting
with
the
Housing
Committee
with
Cena,
so
it
truly
has
transformed
starting
with
kind
of
the
process
to
get
to
where
we're
at
today.
So
initially
we
had
two
options.
AP
One
is
if
we
assembled
with
the
single-family
home
to
the
south,
so
it's
that
added
parcel
and
one
that
did
not
so
I
guess.
At
that
meeting
there
was.
There
was
a
strong
suggestion
that
they
were
concerned
about
parking
bus,
initially
I
guess
we
wanted
one
prioritize
commercial
and
then
prioritize
housing,
and
after
that
we
were
concerned
about
parking.
But
just
one
of
the
things
that
we
reviewed
with
the
neighbors
is
that
parking
was
a
concern
of
theirs.
AP
So
by
adding
that
additional
single-family
home
to
the
south,
it
did
allow
us
to
provide
twice
as
much
parking
and
then
it
kind
of
then
played
into
a
bunch
of
things.
That
was
kind
of
back
and
forth
between
how
we
aren't
orientated
the
building,
how
it
the
perception
on
24
that
it's
two
separate
masses
around
there.
AP
Then
you
know
one
solid
facade,
which
I
think
is
more
in
line
with
the
single-family
homes,
the
duplex
directly
to
the
south,
but
then
still
having
a
large
commercial
presence,
so
just
disclose
the
entries
on
the
corner
of
38th
and
Center.
This
is
our
corridor
talking
with
most
people.
It
is
apparent
that
they're
excited
about
the
corridor.
I
think
you
know,
kind
of
transformation
of
commercial
space
providing
an
amenity
for
the
neighborhood
is
coming
back.
AP
We
get
that
with
our
building
out
38th
and
Theater,
and
we're
seeing
that
kind
of
extend
down
to
the
light
rail
station.
So
there's
not
a
lack
of
individual
groups
that
long
commercial
space
pitches.
How
do
you
give
them
a
commercial
space
or
a
small
business
that
can
fit
within
the
context
of
the
neighborhood,
with
that,
a
lot
of
people
have
reached
out
a
lot
of
people.
There
have
been
local
businesses
that
have
reached
out
to
us
to
move
into
this
spot.
AP
Just
for
that
reason,
kind
of
as
we
go
through
the
process
to
finish
up
because
you're
going
through
the
process.
Obviously
not
everyone
got
everything
that
they
wanted,
but
I
think.
Ultimately,
this
is
a
good
blend
of
what
is
available
on
the
site
and
also
what
the
neighbors
responded
to,
and
that
is
also
seen
in
in
the
support
from
the
Housing
Development
Committee
from
Cena,
who
did
make
note
of
their
preference
to
attract
residents
who
prefer
to
live
without
cars.
I
think
that's
another
thing
front
door,
there's
a
there's!
B
Just
want
to
add,
because
I
think
I
forgot
to
mention
in
terms
of
the
land
use
features
the
site
is
guided
for
mixed
uses.
It's
located
within
the
transit
station
area
for
the
East
30th
Street,
light
rail
station,
it's
in
a
pedestrian
oriented
overlay
and
a
neighborhood
commercial
node,
and
a
community
online
community
corridor,
which
is
he's
30
yesterday.
Thank.
H
AQ
Thank
you,
it's
first
time
being
here
a
little
bit
nervous,
but
I'm
just
gonna
read
from
what
I
prepared
previously,
so
my
name
is
Clark.
Howell
time
live
at
38,
25
24th,
Avenue
South,
which
is
across
the
street,
and
three
houses
down
from
the
proposed
development
and
I
was
in
the
community,
meaning
that
they
did
have
and
was
appreciated
kudos
to
the
developers
on
that
they
did
come
and
see
us,
and
that
was
that
was
a
good
thing.
But
there
is
a
one
issue,
particularly
that
I'm
concerned
with
it.
AQ
I'll
keep
my
comments
somewhat
specifically
to
that
so
which
one
I
question
the
conclusions
of
mr.
Crandall
regarding
a
traffic
and
parking
impact
within
the
residential
area
adjacent
to
a
nearby
the
planned
development
complex
with
63
dwelling
units
and
retail
space
will
create
traffic
and
parking
impacts
in
the
immediate
area,
especially
on
the
immediate
single-family
residence
nearby.
AQ
These
are
areas
where
children
play
and
any
increase
in
traffic
volume
will
make
the
area
less
safe
for
normal
neighborhood
activities.
I
would
conservatively
estimate
that
each
dwelling
would
average
about
one
vehicle
per
unit.
So,
in
my
estimation,
another
63
cars
which
they
have
room
431,
not
enough
in
my
in
my
estimation,
as
we
do
and
will
continue
to
live
in
a
personal
vehicle,
dependent
lifestyle
for
sometime
that,
despite
well
wishing
for
pedestrian
transit
Renaissance
of
some
sort,
and
but
this
will
impart
impact
parking
despite
mr.
AQ
AQ
More
traffic
will
be
traded
on
38th
Street,
on
24th
Avenue
in
the
alley
between
24th
and
and
23rd
avenues.
As
an
example,
the
construction
of
a
similar
complex
on
38th,
Street
and
28th
Avenue
has
created
traffic
and
parking
issues
in
some
cases,
I
perceive
that
this
overcrowding,
traffic
and
parking
has
caused
difficulty
for
small
businesses
to
survive.
AQ
For
example,
there
have
been
four
different
attempts
to
get
a
coffee
house
going
at
38th
and
28th
Avenue
southeast
corner
there,
and
the
latest
one
that
I
see
doesn't
have
as
much
traffic
as
they're
going
to
need
to
be
successful.
I
consider
this
because
they
don't
have
parking
in
the
area
to
for
their
customers
to
to
go
in
and
come
out
in
the
morning
when
it's,
the
busiest
and
I
would
ask
that
all
variances
since
they're
interrelated
to
the
parking
traffic
issue
be
denied.
AQ
AR
Hello,
my
name
is
Greg
cutter
and
I
own
the
business
and
the
building
right
next
door
to
this
project.
We've
been
there
now
ten
years
and
it's
become
a
totally
different
area
from
where
we
first
started.
It's
a
bookstore
and
traffic
has
gotten
very
busy.
There.
Parking
is
becoming
increasingly
difficult
already.
AR
The
building
across
the
street
on
23rd
changed
hands
from
an
attorney's
office
to
several
other
businesses,
and
kitty-corner
from
us
is
now
Sister,
Sledge,
coffee
and
also
a
tattoo
shop,
and
that's
increased
traffic
and
parking
problems
in
the
area.
This
is
going
to
probably
set
us
over
the
edge.
It's
going
to
be
very
difficult
for
parking
in
that
area.
AR
AR
That's
going
to
be
a
problem:
I
already
have
put
on
hold
a
solar
panel
project
that
I
was
going
to
do,
but
if
they
put
that
building
up-
and
it
would
make
solar
panels
totally
moot
I'd
still
like
to
do
that
project,
but
I
have
to
hold
off
until
I
find
out
what
happens.
A
two
and
a
half
story,
as
is
required,
would
probably
define
for
the
area,
but
four
storeys
is
just
way
too
many.
AR
38Th
Street
has
become,
as
I
said,
quite
a
quite
a
good
corridor.
It's
becoming
very
friendly
for
business
and
things
but,
as
was
just
said,
the
the
new
development
at
28th,
Street
and
28th
Avenue
and
38th
Street
has
increased
parking
problems
there.
Even
though
the
retail
businesses
are
gone
empty
for
over
a
year
now,
I
don't
know
if
they've
actually
tried
very
hard
to
fill
them,
but
they
have
been
empty
for
quite
some
time.
I
just
like
to
see
these.
AR
AM
Good
evening
Brian
Copeland
38th
streets,
which
is
just
across
the
street
from
it
I've
only
got
two
major
concerns.
First,
you
got
to
extend
the
olive
branch.
I
really
do
appreciate
the
developers
developing
this
gas
station
and
I
really
do
like
the
density
of
it.
I'm
sure
you've
heard
the
number
63
several
times.
63
units
is
going
to
be
very
dense,
housing,
47
units
between
350
square
feet
and
500
square
feet.
AM
That's
a
lot
of
very
small
apartments,
so
I
I'm
kind
of
sympathetic
about
the
parking,
I'm
kind
of
not
I,
mostly
just
concerned
with
the
characteristic
of
the
neighborhood
in
Peters
report.
It
discusses
that
this
is
part
of
a
master
plan
for
the
38th
Street
corridor,
but
it's
kind
of
a
sloping
down
I
should
turn
around
as
I
go
ahead
to
the
to
the
east,
where
the
30th
Street
Station
is.
There
is
some
high
density,
housing
right
specifically
right
on
the
station
and
then
they've
been
mentioning
28th
Street,
which
is
just
two
blocks
away.
AM
We're
four
blocks
farther
than
that
we're
right
at
that
half
mile
cusp,
where
if
they
were
actually
occupying
the
comic
book
store
the
gentlemen
you
just
heard
they
would
not
qualify
for
that
transit
benefit
where
they
only
have
to
have
31
parking
spots.
So
they
write
on
that
line
and
even
back
over
at
28th
across
from
northbound
we're
talking
three
stories
here.
The
majority
of
the
housing-
that's
not
just
single-family
homes
is
three-story
housing.
This,
of
course,
is
asking
for
a
four
story.
House
and
I.
Think
that's
where
I
take.
AM
AM
It's
just
a
small
variance,
as
opposed
to
the
35%
increase
that
they're
asking
and
it
still
allows
for
commercial
and,
in
fact,
if
they
continue
with
the
31
parking
spots
with
47
units,
that's
going
to
alleviate
a
lot
of
my
neighbors
concerns
about
parking
in
the
area.
So
that's
the
one
big
one
and
then
the
other
tiny
one.
If
I
can
get
to
a
map,
I
think
I
can
do
it.
I
just
wanted
to
raise
to
the
your
panels
attention
up
there.
AM
We
go
that
this
is
not
a
streamline
straightforward
traffic
area,
you'll
notice
that
23rd
Avenue
has
a
stoplight
right
there
and
then
it
bends
to
the
side.
That's
going
to
cause
a
lot
of
traffic
back
up
as
there's
more
and
more
people
trying
to
interrupt
that
flow
of
traffic
to
turn
into
the
alley.
Almost
every
other
intersection.
AM
AS
AS
All
the
buildings
down
there
I
remember,
they've
all
changed
parking
used
to
be
very
plentiful,
but
with
all
the
nursing
home
coming
in
parking
across
the
street
was
had
lots
of
parking
for
the
nursing
home,
then
they
built
the
assisted
living
place
and
I'm
totally
against
the
whole
63
years.
62
units,
whatever
they're
asking
for
stories,
is
way
too
high
for
the
neighborhood.
It
just
does
not
it
just
offsets
the
whole.
Look
at
the
neighborhood.
AS
Some
of
the
neighbors
have
already
sold
their
houses.
They
were
either
up
for
sale
once
old.
He
just
moved
in
two
years
ago,
but
when
he
heard
this
coming
in,
he
said
I
don't
want
anything.
This
is
not
my
neighborhood
anymore,
another
lady
that
lived
a
little
farther
down.
She
has
two
children,
one
in
a
car
seat.
Parking
for
her
would
have
to
be
sometimes
a
block
and
a
half
away
and
she'd
have
to
walk
home
with
her
baby
in
the
car
seat
and
then
go
back
and
get
her
groceries.
AS
I
mean
the
parking
in
this
neighborhood
isn't
right:
we've
got
businesses
there,
I
lived
three-door
and
I
didn't
give
you
my
address.
I
was
38
17,
23rd
Avenue
and
three
houses
behind
the
bookstore,
and
he
does
have
enough
parking
back
there
for
himself,
but
there's
other
businesses
that
have
taken
over
where
the
law
offices
were
on
the
other
side
on
the
west
side
of
23rd,
and
one
of
them
was
a
dance
school.
AS
There
were
people
coming
every
every
hour
and
things
change
and
parking
is
just
one
of
the
Big
Unit
they're
a
big
thing,
and
he
just
described
it
very
well
and
the
four
stories
that's
just
way
beyond
what
we
need
in
her
neighborhood
I
love,
my
neighborhood
at
the
place.
I
grew
up
in
I,
moved
back
to
and
I
just
want
to
see
it
go.
This
way,
I'd
like
to
see
an
apartment
building
come
in.
AS
That's
fine
I'd,
look
a
lot
better
than
that
gas
station
that's
there,
but
what
I'd
really
like
to
see
is
something
that
fits
the
neighborhood.
The
neighborhood
shouldn't
be
that
overbuilt
62
cars,
60
volt
62
units
31
spots
for
cars
and
most
of
them
will
be
taking
transportation.
So
that
means
when
they
park
their
cars
on
the
street.
They're
gonna
stay
there
all
day
long
if
they
work
downtown.
AS
Q
AT
Rob
circle
I
live
at
816,
24th,
Avenue
South
with
my
partner.
So
that's
the
house
directly
south
of
the
proposed
development,
so
I
just
want
to
say,
like
we
are
excited
for
that
gas
station
ago.
We're
excited
for
the
proposed
development,
but
there
are
three
of
the
variances
that
we
take
issue
with
so
item.
C
is
the
height
increase
yeah.
It's
at
one
point
three:
four
times
increase
from
the
zoning
requirement
and
proposed
step
down
on
the
south
side
of
the
building.
I
appreciate
the
thought,
but
it's
not
wide
enough
to
actually
provide
relief.
AT
We're
also
opposed
to
that
one
for
the
reason
that
the
development
won't
stay
in
the
character
of
the
neighborhood.
Second,
one
is
item
F,
that's
the
front
yard
variance.
So
we
have
32
feet
in
our
front
yard
to
the
sidewalk
I
think
the
requirement
is
22
feet.
They've
got
8
feet
proposed,
so
2.75
X
reduction
and
a
4x
reduction
from
what
our
our
houses
it's
pretty
drastic
and
they
claim
this
is
to
support
the
minimum
parking
requirements,
but
the
parking
requirement
is
driven
by
the
relatively
enormous
size
of
the
building.
AT
So
it's
kind
of
circular
reasoning,
so
we're
opposed
to
that
one
as
well.
The
other
one
is
item,
G,
the
side
yard
variance.
So
that's
the
north
side
of
our
Lots
outside
of
their
lot.
This
is
an
important
one
for
us,
we're
going
down
from
11
feet
to
5
feet,
as
was
proposed,
2.2
X
reduction
significant
again.
They
claim
this
is
to
support
the
minimum
report
parking.
AT
AT
They
previously
told
us
that
the
building
itself
would
be
further
away,
but
that
doesn't
seem
to
be
the
case
and
then
yeah,
I
guess.
The
last
point
I'd
like
to
touch
on
is
that
we
bought
the
property
about
a
year
ago,
and
we
were
hoping
that
somebody
would
come
in
and
improve
the
gas
station,
but
our
expectation
was,
it
would
be
done
in
accordance
with
the
requirements
and
the
requirements
that
these
variances
are
describing
is
an
order
of
magnitude
greater
than
what
we
thought
might
be
possible.
AT
A
AB
R
W
R
A
F
H
R
H
L
N
R
Y
R
I'll
say:
I
think
that
this
is
a
building
that
is,
you
know
pretty
in
character
with
what's
already
on
the
street,
there
is
a
four-story
building
across
the
street.
Does
step
down
this
project
does
step
down
to
the
house.
That's
on
the
south
side
of
the
lot
and
I.
You
know,
I
think
it's
asking
too
much
to
crease
the
maximum
floor
area
ratio
a
little
bit.
F
AO
R
A
F
A
A
H
A
B
The
proposed
site
is
made
up
of
five
separate
parcels
that
currently
contain
dwellings
of
a
range
of
unis
primarily
currently
marketed
to
student
housing.
The
application
is
to
demolish
the
existing
housing
on
the
site
to
construct
a
new
six
storey
114
unit
residential
building.
The
applicant
is
requesting
a
rezoning
for
all
parcels
to
the
par-3
district
from
the
r5
currently
on
the
site.
B
There
are
several
variances
which
I'll
run
through
here:
one
is
to
reduce
the
minimum
vehicle
or
a
parking
vehicle
parking
requirement
from
137
spaces
to
67
spaces.
The
project
is
located
in
the
university
area
overlay
district
which,
as
you
know,
does
not
allow
for
transit
reduction
in
the
same
way
that
other
parts
of
the
city
do
when
in
proximity
to
high
frequency
transit.
As
you
can
imagine
this,
this
parcel
being
located
in
the
Dinkytown
activity
center
is
in
close
proximity
to
high
frequency,
transit
and
so
limited.
B
One
parking
requirement
would
be
somewhat
less
than
what
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
provide.
The
there's
also
a
variance
to
reduce
some
known
loading
requirement
from
one
small
space
to
zero
spaces.
The
applicant
has
indicated
that
the
units
in
this
building
are
intended
to
be
rented
furnished
and,
as
a
result,
the
loading
requirement
in
the
project
would
be
somewhat
reduced.
B
It's
also
marketed
towards
students
which,
as
you
can
imagine,
has
a
requirement
that
is
highly
concentrated
on
two
particular
days
during
the
calendar
year
and
the
applicant
has
indicated
that
they
intend
to
manage
the
proposed
underground
parking
garage
to
accommodate
for
those
needs.
On
those
particular
and
limited
days,
I
should
note
that
the
all
of
the
parking
is
proposed
to
be
located
in
one
level
of
underground
enclosed
parking.
B
There
are
several
variances
to
reduce
yard
requirements
in
the
or3.
The
variance
along
4th
Street
southeast
is
from
15
feet
to
6
feet.
I
will
note
that,
because
this
project
did
go
to
committee
the
whole-
and
we
talked
somewhat
about
some
of
these
yard
variances-
that
the
applicant
has
made
some
changes
from
that
time
to
increase
that
setback
along
4th
Street
southeast
to
allow
for
some
additional
buffering
between
the
proposed
walk-up
units
and
principal
residential
entrance
and
the
property
line.
So
that
was
changed
from
the
last
time.
You
saw
the
project.
It's
gonna
pop.
B
B
B
There's
a
variance
to
reduce
the
interior
yard
along
the
East
property
line
from
15
feet
to
12
feet
and
then
a
lot
coverage
variance
to
go
from
70%
to
80%
I
did
variance
was
noticed
for
mechanical
equipment
in
the
required
rear
yard
along
the
South
property
line.
We're
asking
that
that
be
returned
because
it's
actually
meeting
the
spacing
requirements
and
then,
of
course,
the
site
plan
review
application.
B
So,
as
I
noted
in
my
previous
description,
the
projects
are
proposing
presidential
uses
only
there
are
several
walk-up
units
along
4th,
Street
southeast
and
then
along
12th,
Avenue,
south
east
lining
the
ground
level
of
those
elevations
and
then
the
principal
entrance,
which
you
also
know.
It
has
been
moved
since
the
last
time
that
you
saw
the
project
in
response
to
feedback
that
we
heard
a
committee
the
whole
to
along
the
4th
Street
South
East
elevation,
and
then
the
building
is
pulled
back
somewhat
from
the
corner,
which
was
another
change.
B
B
Elevations
that
were
provided
in
the
packet
to
you
are
changing
slightly
in
terms
of
color,
so
there's
an
additional
green
color
provided
for
some
of
the
fiber
cement
or
some
of
the
middle
panel.
That's
proposed
on
the
project
as
an
accent
color
and
those
are
reflected
here
so
I
think
I
will
pause
there.
I
will
note
in
terms
of
the
land
use
features
that
we
are
located
on
the
community
corridor
and
within
the
Dinkytown
activity
center.
AU
Well,
commissioners,
nuruddin
ESD
architecture
and
design,
500
Washington
Avenue,
South
Martinez,
here
about
two
available
to
answer:
questions
Carroll
Lansing
of
attorney,
Stern,
Robertson,
CA
ventures,
the
developer
and
Ben
Johnson
with
Kimmel
a
horny.
We
will
note
that
there
was
some
concern
on
stormwater
questions
in
the
neighborhood
letter,
so
we'll
just
those
of
various
questions.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
AV
Jp
Anderson
I
am
the
facility
manager
for
the
Church
of
Jesus
Christ
of
Latter
day
seems
to
me
located
immediately
south
of
the
proposed
development.
So
I
do
not
reside
there,
but
I
am
the
owner's
representative
for
that
church
facility.
It's
one
of
several
that
I
manage
throughout
the
state
of
Minnesota
and
I
do
have
to
apologize
ahead
of
time
because
I've
not
had
the
opportunity
to
meet
with
the
developer
or
the
architect
with
my
travel
schedule
and
some
of
the
departmental
changes
that
we're
experiencing
nationally
right
now.
AV
So
some
of
these
points,
maybe
things
will
be
discussed
outside
of
this
meeting
that
might
address
some
of
my
concerns
for
the
church
itself.
The
primary
concern
that
we
bring
to
the
table
really
is
regarding
the
parking
variance,
because
the
the
reduction
reduction
is
a
significant
reduction.
It's
about
50%
reduction
and
as
much
as
we'd
like
to
say
that
it's
a
transit,
friendly
area,
it's
a
walking
area.
You
know
we'll
put
in
a
lot
of
bike,
racks,
etc.
AV
People
don't
ride
bikes
in
the
wintertime
and
in
this
particular
part
of
town,
we're
very,
very
restricted
in
our
parking,
as
it
is
already
on
my
particular
site.
We
have
anywhere
between
100
to
130
people
that
will
come
in
for
activities
and
our
particular
instance,
let
alone
the
impact
on
the
community
were
a
church
facility
at
church
educational
facility.
AV
And
so
during
the
week
where
we
hold
classes,
we
don't
have
our
max
capacity
of
parking
utilized
where
we
are
impacted
the
most
as
our
evenings,
where
we
have
socials
and
other
activities
and
on
weekends,
when
the
primary
use
of
parking
neighborhood
and
in
that
community
is
in
highest
demand
not
only
for
the
residents
of
the
community
but
for
visitors
and
others
in
the
area.
And
so
in
that
particular
instance.
AV
We
we
definitely
have
some
significant
concerns
over
the
parking
reductions
and
that,
just
a
couple
of
years
ago,
with
the
University
parking
officials
as
well
as
city
parking
officials,
when
the
Vikings
bill
u.s.
Bank
Stadium,
and
they
were
meeting
at
the
you
know
playing
their
games
at
U
of
M.
And
there
was
quite
a
quite
a
large
involvement
from
the
community
at
that
point
in
time
over
parking
and
we're
able
to
make
some
great
headway
on.
AV
You
know:
opening
up
parking
on
University
on
weekends,
where
it's
an
high
demand
and
maybe
traffic
low,
is-
and
you
know,
the
lower
volume
than
normal,
and
so
in
that
respect,
I
think,
there's
some
some
opportunities
for
us
to
have
some
discussions
on
that
and
revisit
that
particular
variance
because
of
the
parking
restrictions
and
the
significant
impact
it
will
have
on
the
community.
I
know
the
church
next
door
to
us
again
we're
fortunate.
We
have
36
parking
stalls
for
one
hundred
and
fifteen
hundred
and
twenty
people.
AV
That's
unheard
of
in
that
part
of
town,
we're
talking,
114
units
of
people
versus
my
hundred
and
fifteen
people
in
114
people
and
those
aren't
just
students
by
the
way
that
come
into
our
facility.
Those
are
what
we
call
our
young
single
adult
population,
kind
of
the
eighteen
to
thirty
that
come
in
from
all
over
the
Twin
Cities
for
church
services
and
activities
as
our
central
kind
of
hub
for
those
particular
type
of
activities.
On
top
of
being
a
church
educational
facility,.
AV
Some
of
the
concerns
also
that
we
have
with
having
that
much
more
student
housing
added
to
that
particular
area,
having
historical
experience
down
at
the
University
of
Florida,
with
a
very
similar
situation,
Church
educational
facility
right
at
the
University
of
Florida
campus
neighborhood
by
apartment
housing.
On
our
particular
instance,
we
saw
a
lot
of
increase
in
abuse
of
our
property,
or
we
have
and
opened
up
sprout
on
the
parking
lot
for
our
youth.
AV
We
routinely
are
paying
for
disposal
of
student
belongings,
things
that
are
illegally
dumped
on
more
than
a
few
occasions
and
as
much
as
we
put
locks
on
dumpsters
put
out
video
cameras
talk
to
the
police,
there's
only
so
much.
We
can
to
mitigate
that
and
it
becomes
a
real
issue,
because
we
now
incur
a
lot
of
additional
expense
for
the
haul
of
items
that
we
can't
dispose
of
than
a
regular
dumpster
on
a
regular
basis.
AV
Some
of
that
concern
also
comes
from
increased
liability
of
increased
foot
traffic
in
the
area.
That's
something
that,
of
course,
we
deal
with
being
a
public
facility
and
people
coming
across
our
property
on
a
regular
basis.
We
understand
that
it's
just
a
concern
that
we
we
still
share
and
bring
to
the
table
for
having
that
kind
of
a
property
granted
it's
a
student
area.
We
understand
that
there's
going
to
be
foot
traffic,
there's
only
so
much.
F
AV
Yet,
just
because
we
are
a
single-story
residence
and
it
will
be
on
the
north
side
of
our
property,
but
we
already
have
an
issue
with
mold
and
mildew
growth
on
the
north
face
of
a
roof
and
on
our
exterior
brick
that
we
try
to
mitigate
on
a
regular
basis
having
six
storeys
go
up
on
that
Northside,
although
we
do
have
a
full
parking
lot
and
the
additional
ten
feet
right
for
their
variance
between
us
and
their
facility.
That
would
be
something
we
would
love
to
revisit
to
see.
AV
If
that
really
will
have
an
impact
on
us
as
far
as
our
long-term
maintenance
cost
for
the
for
us.
In
our
particular
case,
I
think
our
other
other
concern
is
just
the
overall
safety
of
the
area,
with
the
decreased
number
of
parking
stalls
and
the
increased
traffic
flow
in
the
area.
It's
a
real
challenge
for
us
to
get
in
and
out
of
our
parking
lot
with
so
much
pedestrian
traffic
already
in
the
area,
and
it
does
really
create
just
that
much
more
foot
traffic
that
there
really
is
a
challenge.
AV
I
know
again
we'd
love
to
say
that
we're
gonna
have
people
go
on
foot
and
there
are
a
lot
of
students
do
go
on
foot
having
managed
student
housing
before
myself
for
almost
eight
years,
a
lot
of
students
do
go
on
foot.
The
reality
is,
though,
there
are
just
as
many
that
have
cars
and
are
just
not
willing
to
give
those
up
today.
AV
So
it
would
be
my
preference
that
the
variances
be
revisited
after
we're
there's
some
more
discussion
regarding
the
parking
variance
and
that
that
be
put
on
hold
for
right
now
and
there's
some
other
discussions
we
had
regarding
those
other
variances
in
particular,
so
that
a
shadow
study
can
be
done
for
our
heart
benefit
on
our
property.
Is
that
we'll
be
the
most
directly
impacted
by
that
I'm
sure
there
will
be
other
options
or
other
concerns
brought
up,
but
I
appreciate
you
hearing
me
out
this
evening.
Thank.
AW
Good
evening
my
name
is
Doug
Donnelly
I'm,
pastor
of
University
Baptist
Church,
we're
next
door
to
our
friends
of
the
Latter
day.
Saints
and
I
must
say
that
we
covet
your
parking
lot.
It's
not
a
good
thing
to
do,
but
it's
the
reality.
We've
got
twelve
spaces
they've
got
a
lot
more
than
that
and
they're
they're
very
generous
in
letting
us
use
it
from
every
once
in
awhile.
AW
I
also
serve
on
the
Dinkytown
Business
Alliance
board,
as
well
as
the
Marcy
wounds,
Neighborhood
Association
board
and
was
part
of
the
small
area
plan
for
Dinkytown
that
was
developing
the
plan
there.
I
would.
I
would
like
to
point
out
that
the
that
the
change
in
in
zoning
from
r5
to
Oh
r3
does
not
appear
to
fit
within
those
within
those,
the
the
the
commercial
Neighborhood
Association
master
plan,
or
they
take
you
down
small
area
plan.
So
I
just
want
to
point
that
out
and
and
have
that,
be
part
of
your
consideration
with
an
r5.
AW
It's
supposed
to
be
a
mixed-use
development
with
the
ability
to
have
a
retail
on
the
ground
floor
that
isn't.
That
is
not
in
this
proposal.
It's
a
proposal
that
is
a
single
use,
and
so
I
want
to
point
that
out
as
well
and
ask
that
you
reconsider
that
in
terms
of
the
zoning
piece,
our
biggest
issue
is
the
parking,
obviously
we're
in
the
people
business.
We
like
people,
we
want
people
in
the
neighborhood.
We
want
people
next
door
to
the
church.
That's
that's
just
fine
with
us.
AW
Our
problem
is
finding
way
for
our
people
to
get
to
church
and
to
be
able
to
be
there.
We
have
a
lot
of
people
to
do
to
take
public
transportation,
do
take
and
and
walk
to
market
Church.
We've
got
a
lot
of
people
also
who
depend
on
cars,
people
that
that
came
to
our
church,
as
students
have
moved
away
from
the
area
they
come
back
to
the
church
and
can't
find
parking
anymore.
We've
seen
our
membership
decrease
as
a
result
of
of
increased
I
believe
development
in
the
area
we've
lost.
AW
In
the
past
ten
years,
we've
lost
over
a
thousand
spaces
of
parking
in
the
Deacon
town
area.
There
have
been
nine
new
developments
that
have
come
in
to
bring
in
several
thousand
more
residents
into
the
area.
So
we've
we've
increased
the
the
the
residents
and
decreased
the
parking.
This
seems
to
be
an
exacerbation
of
that
that
trend.
AW
We
have
found
that
that
people
still
do
bring
their
cars
even
if
they,
if
they,
if
they're
living
in
an
apartment
building
that
has
has
parking
underneath
that
they
don't
wanna
pay
the
extra
cost
for
that,
and
so
they'll
they'll
end
up
parking
on
the
streets,
and
so
we've
it's
been
just
increasingly
difficult
for
people
to
find
parking
in
the
Dinkytown
area,
and
so
I
would
encourage
you
to
to
deny
the
variance
on
the
on
the
parking.
That's
the
most
important
issue.
AW
I
do
appreciate
the
developers,
modifications
that
you've
made
I,
especially
like
the
the
fact
that
they
were
able
to
keep
our
the
Baroque
trees
there
on
on
forth,
which
is
a
beautiful
historical
piece
and
also
moving
the
the
main
entrance
from
from
12
unto
on
the
fourth
I
think
those
are.
Those
are
good
improvements.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
I
know
it's
late
at
night
appreciate
your
time
here.
Thank.
A
AV
A
M
B
B
AC
M
Question
for
the
applicant
so
I
appreciate
all
the
changes
you've
made
since
Cal.
The
insurance
is
now
on.
Fourth
is:
what
is
there
a
canopy
at
the
entrance?
Just
it
seems
like
you
got
a
tree
and
everything
every
every
illustration
I
want
to
look
at.
It
seems
like
there's
a
tree
right
in
front
of
the
main
entry.
AU
AU
AU
Yes,
we,
you
can
see
that,
in
this
view,.
A
AU
AU
AU
W
F
H
AU
B
M
A
N
N
AB
V
The
last
item,
with
respect
to
the
findings
for
the
parking
variance
when
we
look
carefully
at
the
practical
difficulties
here
on
this
one
what's
offered
in
the
staff
report,
is
that
most
residents
will
not
have
cars
and
will
walk
or
bike
and
you
to
utilize
car
services.
I.
Think
that's
that's
the
opinion
of
the
applicant.
Primarily
it
might
be
true
that
most
residents
will
not
have
cars.
It
might
be
true
that
many
will
not
or
some
won't
or
whatever.
But
to
me
that's
not
a
that's,
not
a
unique
circumstance
to
the
property.
V
It's
a
characteristic
of
the
clientele
that
they
expect
to
rent
for
it.
So
I'm,
not
sure.
That's
a
practical
difficulty
more
concerning
to
me
is
the
one
that's
offered
after
that,
which
is
at
the
end,
which
that
if
the
property
were
located
outside
of
the
UA
overlay,
there
wouldn't
be
a
requirement
for
as
many
parking
spaces.
Now
that
can't
be
unique
at
all,
because
all
the
properties
in
the
UA
overlay
our
properties
in
the
UA
overlay.
So
this
this
parcel
is
not
at
all
unique
that
way.
V
I
just
don't
think
that
this
finding
is
sufficient
for
a
variance
to
of
over
50%.
Here
it's
in
the
UA
overlay,
the
teeth
of
the
UA
overlay,
our
site,
design
and
parking.
Those
are
the
only
two
things
really
in
it.
So
I'm
not
going
to
be
able
to
support
the
motion
to
approve
item
B
and
if
it's
I
guess,
if
it's
with
C,
then
I'll
have
to
vote
against
both
of
them
operational.
R
I
mean
I,
think
I'll.
Just
note,
I
mean
I
think
this
is
sort
of
a
uniquely
situated
property,
where
this
is
probably
about
one
of
the
most
walkable
areas
in
the
city.
That
is,
you
know,
extremely
well
served
by
transit.
It's
easy
to
bike
around.
It's
easy
to
walk
around
easy
to
get
to
and
from
the
University
and
so
I
think
that
is
in
a
sense,
the
unique
circumstance.
H
R
AO
F
N
R
A
R
R
N
A
M
R
AR
R
I'll
just
say
generally
thanks
to
the
folks
who
came
out
today
and
also
thanks
to
the
applicant.
This
did
have
some.
You
know
fairly
significant
changes
in
between
committee
the
whole
and
this
meeting,
including
moving
the
entrance
to
4th
Street.
It's
also
great
you're
saving
the
the
big
tree.
That's
right
there
on
the
street.
This
is
an
area
that
has
a
lot
of
demand
for
housing
and
I
think
this
is
great
to
kind
of
continue
what
we've
been
been
doing
out
of
dinky
town
and
thanks
for
the
project.