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From YouTube: October 15, 2018 City Planning Commission
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Minneapolis City Planning Commission Meeting
A
Good
afternoon,
I
will
call
to
order
the
October
15th
meeting
of
the
Minneapolis
City
Planning
Commission.
My
name
is
Matt
Brown
I
serve
as
president
of
the
Commission
I'm
joined
today
by
commissioners,
policin
McGraw,
no
Sweezy,
Coleman
and
Cole
Gill
this
time,
I'll
ask
that
you
silence
any
mobile
devices
and
we
can
get
started
with
our
meeting.
So
first
item
of
business
is
to
approve
the
actions
from
the
October
1st
meeting.
Commissioners
may
have
a
motion
to
approve
those
actions.
A
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
all
in
favor
that
potion
carries
next.
We
will
organize
the
agenda.
You
can
find
hard
copies
of
the
agenda
in
the
hallway
will
determine
which
items
we
will
discuss
and
which
will
be
considered
on
consent,
starting
at
the
top
item.
1
is
277
12th
Avenue
north.
That
is
a
vacation
of
an
easement.
A
So
anyone
wishing
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
modify
the
staff
recommendation
on
item
1
Singh
Dhillon
will
put
item
1
on
consent
item
2
is
August:
Ana
1007,
East,
14th,
Street,
1501,
10th,
Avenue,
South,
1607,
1609,
1617,
10th,
Avenue,
South,
1020,
East,
17th,
Street
and
1510
11th,
Avenue,
south
of
variance
and
a
preliminary
and
final
register
and
land
surveys.
Anyone
wishing
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
modify
the
staff
recommendation
on
item
2.
A
No
one
will
put
item
2
on
consent
item
3
is
the
Emily
program
at
3012,
West
44th
Street,
a
conditional
use
permit
for
supportive
housing
facilities.
Anyone
wishing
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
modify
the
staff
recommendation
on
item
3,
3
and
consent
item
4
is
at
626
West
Broadway.
That's
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
shopping
center.
Is
anyone
wishing
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
modify
the
staff
recommendation
on
item
4c?
No
one
will
put
that
on
consent.
A
Item
5
is
at
20
seven:
twenty,
twenty
nine
twenty
thirty
three
West
Broadway
2301
Oliver
Avenue,
North
21:04
and
2106
23rd
Avenue,
north
and
2101
West
Broadway.
Several
applications
for
an
addition
to
a
building
at
that
location
will
discuss
item
five.
If
anyone
is
here
for
that
item,
six
is
turbo,
Thames,
anything
automotive
at
twenty
eight,
twenty
three
and
twenty
eight
twenty
seven
Central
Avenue
North
East
conditional
use,
permit
and
a
site
plan
review
for
an
auto
repair
facility.
So
anyone
wishing
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
modify
the
staff
recommendation
on
item
6c.
A
No
one
will
put
that
on
consent.
Item
seven
is
the
part
printing
expansion
at
2801
and
2801,
and
a
half
California
Street
northeast
few
applications
for
an
industrial
building
Edition.
It's
not
even
wishing
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
modify
the
staff
recommendation
at
item
7c.
No
one
will
put
that
on
consent.
Item
eight
is
the
car
Banda
parking
lot
at
501
at
five
eleven
11th
Avenue
of
self
and
as
a
conditional
use
permit
and
a
variance
related
to
a
surface
parking
lot.
We
will
discuss
item
H
as
if
anyone
is
here
for
that
item.
A
Nine
is
the
H
Alden
Smith
house
and
apartments
of
1,400
Yale
plays
forty
five
spruce
place
and
1403
Harmon
place
several
applications
for
a
residential
building.
Is
anyone
wishing
to
speak
in
opposition
to
or
modify
the
staff
recommendation
on
item
nine?
So
we
do
have
some
people
here
for
that
we
will
discuss
item
nine
moving
along
item.
10
is
the
14th
Avenue
apartments
at
8:54,
902
and
904
14th
Avenue
Northeast
several
applications
for
a
new
mixed-use
project.
There
is
anyone
wishing
to
speak
in
opposition
to
report,
modify
the
staff
recommendation
for
that
item.
A
A
I
know
Commissioner
Rockwell
had
a
question
about
that.
Is
anyone
else
wishing
to
speak
on
item
11?
Okay,
we
do
have
someone
here
so
we'll
discuss,
item
11
as
well,
so
our
agenda
as
amended.
Yes
as
follows:
items
5,
8,
9
and
10.
We
will
discuss
items
1,
2,
3,
4,
6,
7
and
10
will
be
considered
on
consent.
Commissioners
may
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
as
amended.
A
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
all
in
favor,
and
that
motion
carries
next
we'll
move
on
to
our
committee
of
the
whole
consent
agenda
and
on
October
4th.
We
considered
some
land
sales
at
23,
13,
13th,
Avenue,
South,
also
812
36th,
Avenue,
north
and
22
at
12:36,
Avenue
north.
We
found
that
those
items
were
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
may
have
a
motion
to
find
those
items
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
B
A
A
motion
and
a
second
all
in
favor
and
that
motion
it
carries
our
next
we'll
move
on
to
our
public
hearings
and
first
I'll
open
the
public
hearing
for
the
items
on
the
consent
agenda.
Again,
that's
items
1
2,
3,
4,
6,
7
and
10.
Is
anyone
wishing
to
speak
on
any
of
those
items?
See
no
one.
I'll
close
the
public
hearing
and
commissioners
may
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda.
A
C
Approximately
19,000
square
foot
addition
that
would
be
added
on
to
the
existing
portion
of
the
theater
has
some
updated
renderings
for
you
provided
by
the
applicant
today
that,
first
one
being
from
West
Broadway
and
this
one
being
from
23rd
Avenue.
My
plan
was
only
to
discuss
the
vacation
application
is.
That
was
the
only
point
of
contention
that
we
are
aware
of
the.
C
The
Wellington
wrote
a
letter
objecting
to
the
vacation
request,
stating
that
if,
if
that
vacation
was
approved
in
with
limit
to
eliminate
vehicle
access
to
their
site,
garage
trash,
etc,
Public,
Works
and
C
Peten,
do
you
support
the
vacation
request?
Even
with
the
letter
of
objection?
Staff
does
not
find
that
this
is
part
of
a
public
transportation
corridor
and
we
do
not
see
the
retention
of
the
alley
providing
a
public
purpose,
but
the
but
I'm
the
counterpoint
to
that
staff
does
see
that
allowing
for
the
vacation.
C
There
is
public
interest
in
allowing
this
development
to
take
place,
that
being
the
Capri
theatre
project,
the
utility
companies
wrote
a
few
of
them,
responded
to
the
notice
of
the
vacation
request
and
there's
some
requests
for
retention
of
easements,
and
that
would
be
part
of
this
alley.
Vacation
and
one
of
the
points
staff
wants
to
point
out
is
that
we
do
see
the
retention
that
Wellington
would
retain
vehicle
access
rights
via
23rd
Avenue.
C
If
a
project
in
and
of
itself
took
place
tonight,
there's
a
two-way
street
and
there
with
Public,
Works
and
C
ped
have
a
track
record
of
allowing
vehicle
access
to
a
site
when
that
is
the
only
option.
So
I
have
to
answer
questions.
You
might
have
this
or
be
ready
for
questions.
If
you
think
missionaries.
A
Are
there
any
questions
of
and
I'll
just
clarify
Aaron
since
that
site
is
owned
Darfur,
it
seems
like
it's
likely
that
maybe
down
the
road,
it
could
be
assembled
with
some
of
the
adjacent
properties.
It
does
appear,
though,
that
a
single-family
home
would
be
of
permitting
use
in
our
four
so
you're
saying.
Basically,
if
the
owner
chose
to
build
a
single-family
home
there,
they
could
simply
have
a
driveway
off
in
the
street
and
have
trash
service.
That's.
C
C
A
D
A
B
A
F
Hi
I'm
Joe
Hoffman
I'm,
with
Wellington
management
here,
represent
the
owner
of
the
2110
23rd
Avenue,
and
we
just
wanted
to
say
we're
pleased
that
the
project
is
moving
forward,
we're
happy
for
the
Capri
and
what
this
party
turns
out.
Well,
so
we
have
been
working
with
CE
ped
to
arrange
for
the
easement
for
the
adjoining
property
so
that
we
still
have
access
to
city
services
with
the
ally.
I
have
a
copy
of
a
letter
here
that
we
would
hope
to
continue
to
work
with
them
to
remove
our
objection
to
this
vacation.
F
G
A
We
can
see
if
anyone
else
would
like
to
speak
on
this
item.
Is
there
anyone
else
who
would
like
to
speak
on
item
5c?
No
one
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
commissioners.
We
have
several
applications
before
us.
Let's
see
here
a
total
of
8
any
further
questions,
or
what's
one
like
to
start
things
off
with
a
motion.
A
J
I
H
A
I
K
H
A
B
I
H
A
I
A
L
This
is
a
an
application
for
501
and
511
11th
Avenue
South,
that's
known
as
the
car
banda
parking
lot.
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
convert
the
area.
That's
shaded
in
gray,
on
your
map
into
a
accessory
parking
lot.
This
area,
actually
I'm
gonna,
go
back
to
this
map.
This
501
parcel
had
been
former
right-of-way.
L
Currently,
timeshare
properties
on
this
property
has
146
accessory.
Excuse
me,
commercial
parking
lot,
the
owner,
they
hope
hold
the
class
a
license
for
that,
which
means
they
can
lease
it
to
anyone
at
any
time
game
days
event
times
whatnot.
They
also
have
a
550
space
parking
garage
at
the
other
end
of
their
lot
on
the
east
side
of
their
property.
On
the
other
side
of
the
office.
Building
that
sits
in
between
the
parking
garage
and
then
the
surface
parking
lot.
L
The
site
is
in
the
downtown
parking
overlay
district
or
you
cannot
expand
commercial
parking
lots,
and
so
there
needs
to
be
a
distinction
made
between
the
class.
A
parking
lot
license
the
commercial
parking
lot
and
then
the
accessory
parking
lot.
That
would
only
serve
tenants
within
the
building
and
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
do
that
with
the
parking
lot
that
they
currently
have
in
the
they're
proposing
to
reconfigure
it.
L
There's
a
letter
from
the
downtown
Minneapolis
Neighborhood
Association
supporting
the
applications
they
did
meet
I
believe
it
was
last
week
that
was
noted
in
that
in
the
letter
from
them
that
come
in
today
we
are
recommending
denial
of
both
of
these
applications.
As
I
had
indicated,
they
have
146
space,
surface
parking
lot
and
then
550
space
parking
garage
on
the
property
for
a
total
of
696
favor.
Take
a
few
spaces
on
the
property
and
that
can
be
leased
to
anybody
at
anytime.
L
For
any
reason,
we
don't
feel
that
there's
any
reason
to
support
a
conditional
use
permit
or
a
variance
to
add
an
additional
30
spaces
on
the
site.
It
does
not
meet
the
intent
to
the
downtown
parking
overlay,
which
is
to
stop
the
expansion
of
surface
parking
lots
and
convert
parking,
lots
that
exist
to
to
development.
So
we
are
recommending
denial
of
both
of
those
applications
and
I
will
stand
for
any
questions.
H
L
H
L
They
are
proposing
to
plant
trees.
There
are
large
shrubs
on
the
site.
Now
it
iLok
may
be
something
it's
a
it's
a
large
shrub,
they're,
proposing
I,
guess
I'm,
not
I,
didn't
actually
look
into
the
root
of
the
species
of
trees
that
they
were
proposing.
As
far
as
could
they
build
on
the
rest
of
the
parking
lot.
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
sure
I
would
ask
their
civil
engineer
to
discuss
that
where
the
utility
lines
are
coming
in.
Okay,.
L
A
E
Robert
do
representing
timeshare
systems
to
the
commissioners
point
on
whether
that
sighted
can
be
developed.
The
answer
is
no.
That
corner
of
the
site
cannot
on
the
on
the
issue
of
landscaping
and
what
can
be
done
down
there.
I
think
that's
a
key
point.
That's
supported
by
the
neighborhood
group
and
I
think
they're
here
to
speak
to
that.
E
What
what's
been
proposed
is
really
an
intense
beautification
of
that
site,
which
who
is
cited
in
the
staff
report,
that
there
is
a
currently
a
landscape,
buffer,
I,
would
say
a
week
one
at
best
and
the
proposed
landscaping.
There
would
certainly
clean
up
that
gateway
from
the
new
entry
from
Cedar
Riverside
into
the
downtown
district.
On
the
planting
front,
we
can
verify
that
that
the
existing
easement
that
was
signed
when
the
City
Council
approved
the
vacation
of
that
property
in
2017.
E
It
is
primarily
data
and
power
lines
and
those
are
in
excess
of
certainly
in
excess
of
36
inches.
So
it
can
still
take
some
substantial
landscaping,
I'm
sure
what
to
sort
that
out,
but
again
the
I
guess
the
key
point
here
and
I'd
like
to
certainly
have
handed
over
and
let
that
neighborhood
folks
speak
about
their
desire
to
clean
that
area
up
right
now
it
you
know
it
effectively
on
event
days,
leading
up
to
event
days.
It
effectively
is
being
used
as
a
parking
lot.
E
J
The
property
owners
broken
the
robber
to
here,
and
so
yes,
it's
the
area's
uncontrolled
right
now.
This
is
the
brand
new
cemetery
crossing
that
they
just
built,
and
that
is
the
bike
path
and
they're
our
vehicles
parked
right
on
the
pathway.
This
was
the
last
game,
so
the
whole
area
is
needs
better
control
and
we
have
actually
been
advocating
for
Scimitar
crossing.
Why
not
a
better
connection
to
see
the
riverside
we're
on
all
up
or
interesting
at
Powell
was
before
he
was
even
worse,
so
it's
gotten
much
better
and
we
are
promoting
to
improve
it.
J
You
want
me
to
put
directly
on
top
of
it,
because
if
the
tree
were
up
or
if
our
structure
will
fall
over,
it
could
pull
them
out
of
the
ground
so
going
on
top
of
it,
but
further
away
from
it
to
be
would
be
ideal.
But
in
our
plan
that
we
have
I
do
not
plan
on
top
of
it
and
I
can
show
you
more
photos.
This
goes
on.
This
is
an
action
older
photos
even
winter
time,
and
it
really
doesn't
matter.
These
are
all
event
games.
You
know
this
is
motocross.
J
A
J
A
N
N
N
J
And
the
idea
is
that
that's
a
24/7
facility,
we
want
to
be
able
to
people
to
come
around
the
clock,
and
so
this
would
be
just
dedicated
for
them
and
then
you're
a
good
partner
with
the
MSF
Bay.
So
we
do
a
lot
of.
We
want
to
continue
to
support
and
much
of
what
happens.
Even
though
the
cars
are
parking,
the
general
public
parks
in
the
larger
ramp.
On
the
west
side,
we
handle
most
of
stuff
the
back
office
kind
of
things,
so
a
lot
of
the
trailers
communications
security.
J
These
are
the
kind
of
things
so
when
they're
gonna
set
up
for
like
motocross
they'll,
actually
be
there
for
probably
a
week
before
they
actually
are
gearing
up
for
the
event
super
Super
Bowl
two
weeks
or
months.
It
just
took
a
long
time
to
get
that
stuff
geared
up
ready
to
go
NCW
the
exact
same
way.
So
we
want
to
be
able
to
offer
the
larger
parcel
for
their
facilities.
We
just
had
an
event
actually
and
they
had
nowhere
to
park.
J
O
J
O
J
To
just
a
clarify,
the
parking
that
has
been
at
Cornell
was
before
me
on
that
land,
okay,
and
so
we
can
have
any
control
over
it
and
it
was
that's
what
the
photos
been
from
once
we
purchased
the
land.
We
actually
could
not
stop
people,
we
had
to
put
a
fence
up
okay,
so
we
put
the
fence
up
and
then
back
out
people
to
stop
working
there,
because
right
now,
there's
just
no
control
mm-hmm.
O
J
A
J
E
According
to
the
report
from
17,
public
works
indicated
that
they
had
nothing
in
the
area
to
be
vacated,
CenturyLink,
Qwest,
sprint,
sprint
and
one
other
utility,
as
part
of
as
part
of
the
vacation,
required
an
easement
to
be
helped,
and
it
was
in
the
easement.
It
was
simply
identified
as
30,
substantial
conduits
at
various
deaths,
various
sizes
and
deaths
from.
O
E
J
They
can
be
moved
as
a
question
of
cost
her
anything.
Oh
I
mean
they
obviously
want.
They
feel
that
for
us
to
move
this,
they
approached
sprint
to
move
it.
They
would
have
to
charge
us
a
large
fee,
so
it
would
be,
and
it
just
so
that
small
of
an
area
when
you
have
to
deal
with
pain
on
somebody
just
doesn't
make
it
to
them,
isn't
working,
but.
O
J
E
Small
corner,
you
know
the
small
corner
that
we're
talking
about
that.
That
problem
doesn't
exist
not
to
the
extent
that
it
does
on
the
north
side
as
it
does
on
the
south
side.
So
to
your
point,
you
know
if
the
economic
value
driven
drove
a
larger
development,
it
would
almost
assuredly
occur
down
here
as
opposed
to
up
on
the
north
side.
It.
J
A
A
K
Commissioners,
Tom
Schmidt
with
the
DNA
Land,
Use
Committee
and,
as
you've
heard,
we
have
filed
a
letter
of
support
for
these
applications
and
want
to
assure
you
we
haven't
done
so
because
we
like
we're
like
parking
lots.
We
fully
support
the
city's
policy
on
this
as
a
general
principle,
we
believe
in
this
case
there
are
specific
circumstances
associated
with
this
site
that
would
that
warrants
a
deeper
look
to
the
applications
here.
K
The
the
triangle
of
land
that
has
been
described
is,
in
fact,
visually
quite
unattractive
right
now,
it's
it's
mainly
just
dresse
and
it's
it's
used
for
the
purposes
you've
you've
heard
described
and
our
our
belief
is
that
it
will
continue
to
stay
in
that
condition
indefinitely
if
the
applications
are
simply
denied.
At
the
same
time,
we
believe
that
the
site
presents
an
important
greening
opportunity
for
this
for
this
spot,
especially
because
it
lies
adjacent
to
the
to
the
downtown
terminus
of
the
cemetery
crossing.
K
After
some
questions
and
discussion
that
Damon,
a
Land
Use
Committee
recommended
providing
a
letter
of
support
for
the
conditional
use
permit
and
the
variance
application,
it
did
so
with
the
understanding
that
timeshare
systems
would
update
its
landscaping
plan
to
reflect
the
current
plan
and
would
be
willing
to
plant
canopy
trees
along
the
perimeter
at
both
the
existing
and
new
parking
areas.
This
would
greatly
enhance
the
visual
field
presented
to
pedestrians
and
cyclists
using
the
recently
opens
cemetery
crossing
which
connects
the
Cedar
Riverside
neighborhood
to
downtown
Minneapolis.
K
The
downtown
end
of
the
crossing
terminates
at
11th
Avenue
South,
with
the
back
of
US
Bank
Stadium
straight
ahead,
and
the
blank
wall
of
the
Elliot
Park
substation
to
the
north,
a
lush
tree
canopy
and
landscape
area
to
the
south
would
soften
the
visual
field
and
provide
a
more
welcoming
approach
to
downtown.
The
committee
thus
believes
that
this
project
presents
an
important
training
opportunity,
as
promoted
in
policies
13
and
14
of
the
Minneapolis
2040
comprehensive
plan,
a
revised
version.
K
We,
of
course,
would
prefer
to
see
this
strip
of
land
to
be
fully
landscaped
to
be
completely
agree
given
over
to
green
space.
But
our
position
is
that
we
we
believe
that
accepting
these
applications,
with
whatever
conditions
they
deem
appropriate,
can
in
fact
move
us
towards
making
this
a
more
and
and
and
greatly
needed,
green
space
at
this
site.
Thank
you.
Q
J
Q
And
we're
here
really
representing
the
public
realm
of
the
neighborhood
public
realm
is
not
a
snapshot
in
time.
The
public
realm
continues
around
the
clock
seven
days
a
week
all
year.
Long
where
this
area
is
mostly
impacted,
is
on
major
event
days
now.
What
we've
seen
out
here
on
major
event
days
is
at
this
corner
has
become
a
parking
lot.
What
is
happening
there
are
people
affiliated
with
the
city
of
Minneapolis
who
are
closing
the
street.
They
are
parking
in
the
no
parking
area.
Q
So
going
back
to
this
particular
picture,
what
they've
done
this
week
compared
to
the
last
Viking
games
is
the
stadium
has
taken
the
initiative
to
put
up
a
barrier
to
keep
cars
from
parking
on
this
corner
if
this
area
isn't
permanently
controlled
and
managed
in
a
way
that
it
supports
the
active
uses
around
this
building,
the
major
events,
as
well
as
the
day-to-day
use
of
Samet
are
crossing
and,
and
this
particular
street
is
a
major
bike
way
connection.
This
is
just
going
to
turn
into
a
vacant
lot.
Q
Q
Size
can
be
determined
number
of
spaces
determined
and
then,
in
that
development
of
that
parking
lot,
he's
gonna
create
an
edge
that
is
going
to
be
very
attractive
in
the
context
of
the
public
realm,
he's
gonna
put
in
a
landscaped
edge,
he's
gonna
put
in
a
decorative
fence
around
this
parking
lot
he's
going
to
put
in
trees,
canopy
trees
along
the
edge
of
the
street.
So
now
we
have
an
urban
edge.
We've
created
an
urban
space.
This
is
an
actively
used
new
corridor.
Samet
are
crossing.
This
is
a
new
gateway
into
the
Samet,
our
crossing.
Q
We
need
to
clean
it
up.
We
need
to
make
it
look
nice.
This
is
also
one
of
the
front
doors
to
the
stadium
when
you
come
down
the
big
steps.
This
is
what
you
see
looking
out
at
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
So
if
we
could
get
a
parking
lot
as
a
means
to
getting
enhanced
landscaping,
a
decorative
fence
and
a
public
realm
that
is
supportive
at
all
times.
The
neighborhood
would
greatly
appreciate
that.
So
my
ask
is
that
you
do
not
deny
the
variance
you
do
not
deny
the
conditional
use
permit.
Q
A
M
E
E
E
A
M
Say
it,
it
doesn't
seem
clear
to
me,
given
the
guidance,
that's
provided
by
downtown
name
of
the
district,
that
downtown
parking
overlay
district,
which
would
suggest
that
we
shouldn't
shouldn't
accept
this.
A
conditional
use
permit
why
the
conditions
are
such
that
there
should
be
a
good
exception.
Granted
I
mean
if
that
man
doesn't
want
people
to
be
parking
on
this
land.
A
I
guess
what
I'm
hung
up
on
is
the
fact
that
they
could,
you
know,
do
a
20
space
accessory
parking
lot
with
just
a
conditional
use
permit
and
it
wouldn't
require
that
variance
so
and
I
realize
there
are
some
issues
related
to
kind
of
being
maxed
out
on
the
size
of
the
existing
commercial
parking
lot,
but
I
do
think
the
fact
that
it
would
be
possible
to
do
a
20
space
lot.
You
know
makes
it
difficult
for
me
to
support
a
larger
lot.
A
A
A
L
Item
9
on
your
agenda
is
the
H
Albert
Smith
house.
We
did
review
this
sort
of
joint
meeting
with
the
hpc,
as
the
H
Eldon
Smith
house
is
a
landmark
in
the
city.
The
project
has
been
reviewed
by
the
Heritage
Preservation
Commission,
which
included
the
rehabilitation
plan
for
the
existing
landmark
and
then
the
new
construction
that
is
occurring
on
the
site.
That
includes
that
three-story
link
that
connects
to
the
historic
landmark.
The
hpc
approves
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
on
May
1st
of
this
year,
and
the
project
has
not
changed.
L
Since
you
sat
last,
and
although
it
did
come
down,
one
story,
I
guess
it's
now
a
six
story
building
proposed.
Instead
of
seven,
there
are
several
applications
that
are
required.
One
is
the
conditional
use
from
it
to
increase
the
height
of
the
building
and
the
site's
also
located
in
the
shoreland
overlay
district,
which
restricts
height
to
two
and
a
half
stories
or
35
feet,
they're,
proposing
a
six
story,
building
or
73
feet.
We
are
recommending
approval
of
this
and
we're
recommending
approval
of
the
site.
There
are
three
to
five
story
buildings
located
across
the
street.
L
The
townhomes
that
are
across
the
street
are
through
story.
Townhomes.
There
is
a
22
story.
Building
here.
The
height
of
the
buildings
in
the
surrounding
area
then
vary
between
2
to
22
stories.
We
are
recommending
approval
of
that
conditional
use
permit
to
increase
the
height
the
other,
the
next
application.
Then
they
do
need
a
variance
to
reduce
the
number
of
guest
parking
spaces
on
the
site
from
2
down
to
0.
They
are
providing
more
parking
in
the
building
for
residents.
L
However,
they
don't
have
any
mechanism
to
bifurcate
the
parking
within
the
garage,
so
they
are
proposing
to
not
have
guest
parking.
However,
as
part
of
the
project,
they
are
working
to
add
a
green
boulevard.
Alongs
first
place
as
part
of
that
they
will
be
adding
four
new
on
street
parking
spaces.
No,
they
are
not
specific
to
this
development,
but
it
is
a
fourth.
L
It
is
for
additional
me
parking
spaces
that
are
at
large,
if
you
will
in
the
neighborhood
for
for
anyone's
usage,
but
looking
at
that
as
a
unique
circumstance,
they
are
increasing
the
boulevard
with
to
add
the
green
space,
but
also
to
try
to
help
control
some
of
the
issues.
The
bike
path
comes
up
out
of
Loring
Park
and
through
the
MCTC
campus,
which
is
just
here
north
if
you
will
stay
north
or
towards
Hennepin
of
the
site.
L
There
have
been
some
issues
at
the
neighborhood
and
we
talked
about
this
with
Public
Works,
and
so
as
issues
that
came
out
of
the
neighborhood
and
then
to
try
to
fix
some
of
the
bike
problems
on
the
sidewalks
and
whatnot.
They
are
proposing
this
this
buffer,
which
adds
those
spaces.
They
do
have
yard
variances
done
one
of
the
longest
Prue's
place
from
15
feet.
It
says
to
zero.
Only
the
porch
is
down
to
zero.
The
building
itself
don't
have
to
look
at
my
notes.
L
The
building
itself
is
between
6
and
11
feet,
and
then
there
is
a
stack
of
balconies
on
this
porch
for
the
ground
floor
unit.
That's
at
0
feet.
They
also
have
a
variance
along
spruce,
again
listed
as
15
to
0,
but
that
will
be
down.
The
building
itself
will
be
between
7
and
9
feet,
and
then
there
are
open
porches
and
a
staircase
that's
wider
than
what
we
allow
poor
zoning
and
that
goes
to
zero
and
the
porches
and
the
balconies
go
to
four
feet.
L
So
the
building
the
building
is
not
going
to
be
up
to
the
front
property
lines
or
the
corner
side
property
line
in
either
case,
and
because
this
is
on
a
block
to
itself
well,
the
house
is
here
and
then
there
is
MCTC
campus
buildings
further
north.
We
are
recommending
approval
of
those.
It
is
a
unique
situation
where
they
are
rehabbing,
a
historic
landmark
and
bringing
it
out
of
its
current
state
into
a
place
where
people
will
be
able
to
live,
and
so
we
are
recommending
approval
of
those
variances.
L
The
building
would
be
excuse
me
between
zero,
which
is
an
a
continuation
of
the
existing
buildings
addition
here,
all
the
way
up
to
20
feet.
This
is
the
back
of
the
Whitney
Fine
Arts
Center
for
MCTC
campus.
It
is
a
long
blank
wall
with
no
windows
or
openings
on
it.
We
are
recommending
approval
of
that
variance
as
well.
They
have
also
set
to
interview
and
then
a
plant
to
plant,
all
of
this
as
to
one
property,
given
the
historic
property
on
the
site,
we
needed
to
plot
it
into
one
property
for
site
plan
review.
L
They
did
have
three
areas
of
alternative
compliance.
One
was
the
blank
wall
facing
that
when
he
fine
art
center,
that
ground
floor
of
the
building
is
over
25
feet
in
length
and
blank.
It
faces
a
blank
wall
that
is
over
25
feet
in
length
and
blank
as
well,
and
it
is
just
that
that
first
story
of
the
building
and
another
one,
then
is
the
materials
they
do
have
more
fiber
cement
than
what
is
allowed,
and
it
is
on
that
elevation.
L
That's
the
back
of
the
hom
Smith
house,
so
it
won't
be
the
most
visible
of
the
elevations
because
of
the
existing
landmark
that
will
sit
in
front
of
it
and
the
other
item
that
they
need.
An
alternative
compliance
firm
was
for
the
number
of
trees.
They
are
planting,
11,
canopy,
trees
in
the
right-of-way
and
for
so
as
to
not
block
the
historic
landmark
they
are
proposing
for
birch
trees
on
the
site.
They
would
need
a
total
of
five,
so
they're
missing
one
canopy
tree
on
site.
L
A
S
G
Good
evening,
commissioners
Kim
brought
them
lhb
architect.
There
would
be
a
way
of
electronically
opening
and
controlling
the
overhead
doors
by
management.
It's
customarily
that
you
don't
mix
the
visitor
parking
and
resident
parking
they'll
work.
The
the
staff
report
indicates
the
number
two
of
parking
stalls
were
exceeding
and
then
we're
doing
a
net
add
off-site
or
on
the
street.
That
equates
to
that
plus
two
on
the
street,
so
that
three,
it
was
a
compromise.
G
You
say
that
again
so
on
the
we
are,
if
you
take
the
existing
parking,
that's
on
the
street,
we're
creating
the
street,
both
yell
and
spruce,
place,
RMSA
streets,
we're
narrowing
them
both
to
the
minimum
widths
that
are
allowed
and
then
we're
adding
for
currently
spruce
place,
has
no
parking
on
it.
We're
adding
for
there
on
Yale.
U
A
U
That's
correct:
I
live
in
that
neighborhood
I
walk
in
that
neighborhood.
The
traffic
in
that
neighborhood
is
horrendous.
Now,
if
you
change
it
and
make
the
streets
narrower
and
put
in
more
parking
and
have
87
units
that
could
be
another
to
almost
200
people,
Loring
Park
is
turning
into
a
toilet
with
all
the
dogs.
The
lake
is
green
because
of
the
dogs
and
I
love
dogs,
but
there's
a
lot
of
people
coming
into
this
neighborhood
and
I.
Don't
think
it
can
handle
it.
U
It
would
be
very
detrimental
to
the
neighborhood,
I
think
and
the
landscape
buffer
to
the
sidewalks,
to
the
curb
I'm,
not
sure
if
that
should
come
up
to
zero
I'm,
not
an
architect,
I'm
a
lawyer
and
I.
Don't
know
that
much
about
planning.
This
is
my
first
meeting
I've
ever
attended
and
that's
all
I
have
to
say
I,
don't
like
the
plan,
all
right.
A
R
Cap
34
Greenway
cables
across
the
street
from
the
proposed
addition
personally
I
would
like
to
see
that
new
mansion
save
or
the
old
mansion
renovated
I
do
urge
you
to
vote
against
two
of
the
variances.
As
has
been
previously
mentioned,
this
property
is
adjacent
to
a
college.
We
have
a
lot
of
traffic,
both
foot
traffic,
bicycle
traffic
and
motor
traffic
I
personally
been
involved
in
several
close
calls
at
the
intersection
of
Harmon
and
Yale,
because
the
sight
lines
were
already
bad
and
I
see
this
as
a
potential
very
dangerous
situation.
R
The
second
thing
is
the
parking
we
already
have
very
low
level
of
parking
available
and
with
87
residents
there
I
don't
know
where
their
guests
would
Park.
So
I
urge
you
to
vote
against
those
two
things
most
specifically
against
the
zero
lot
line
against
Yale
place,
because
that's
where
the
people
come
out
of
Herman
and
they
can't
they
already
can't
see
the
traffic
going
back
and
forth
and
if
we
put
a
building
there,
so
someone
I
think
is
going
to
get
hurt
and
I'm
afraid
it's
gonna
be
a
pedestrian
Thank
You.
V
V
W
John
Peterson
live
at
12,
Greene
right,
Gables,
strictly
across
Yale
from
this
development
I'm
on
the
board
of
directors
at
Green,
Gables
Association.
So
my
notes
are
a
compilation
of
my
own
comments
as
well
as
some
of
our
residents.
We
strongly
oppose
the
setback
variances
for
the
setbacks
to
both
Yale
and
spruce
place
to
the
to
the,
mostly
because
the
traffic
impacts
as
people
have
brought
out.
W
There
are
substantial
sight
line
issues
at
that
intersection
right
now,
which
are
mostly
caused
by
the
proximity
of
Loring
Park
Apartments,
which
are
on
the
east
side
of
that
intersection.
They
are
all
the
way
up
to
the
property
line.
Some
people
already
can't
see
it
that
intersection.
What
happens
is
people
who
are
going
south
on
spruce
place
have
to
go
into
the
intersection
in
order
to
see
around
that
building.
W
It's
a
fact
of
life
for
those
of
us
who
live
at
greenery
cables
that
during
the
rush
hours
both
morning
and
evening,
we
hear
a
lot
of
cars
honking
to
each
other,
because
it's
unsafe,
it's
unsafe
for
cars,
it's
unsafe
for
pedestrians,
it's
unsafe
for
bikes.
We
don't
want
to
see
a
threeway
stop
sign
there.
I,
don't
think
that's
going
to
solve
it,
there's
a
substantial
amount
of
traffic
that
goes
through
there
for
the
people
who
are
going
around
the
east
side
of
the
park.
So
we
strongly
oppose
both
those
setback.
W
W
The
mansion
itself
is
22
to
33
feet
from
the
property
line,
so
when
you're
putting
a
building
and
its
balconies
or
whatever
up
2-0
feets,
it's
going
to
cause
a
situation
where
this
mansion,
where
we're
trying
to
highlight,
is
going
to
be
hiding
behind
this
in
your
building.
So
by
granting
that
acceptance
first
place,
not
only
are
we
causing
a
traffic
issue
on
that
intersection,
you're
hiding
the
building
or
trying
to
save.
W
So
a
lot
of
concerns
about
the
massing
of
that
sir
I'm
gonna
read
some
my
notes,
because
some
of
them
are
from
other
residents
as
well.
We
also
oppose
the
two
kraj
entrances
on
yale
place.
I,
don't
think
that's
been
brought
up,
but
it
was
noted
in
city
staff
that
the
two
of
garage
entrances,
which
are
basically
next
to
them
next
to
each
other.
One
comes
on
in
the
alley
that
they're
putting
into
the
other
one
is
facing
Yale
place.
W
The
total
curb
cut
is
about
40
feet
which
exceeds
city
standards
which
is
25
and
no
more
to
exceed
35,
so
they
didn't
even
ask
for
that
variance,
but
you
have
to
grab
doors
both
supporting
two-way
traffic
coming
out
to
Yale
place
directly
across
the
entrance
and
exit
from
both
booth
manner
and
green,
with
Gables
they're
in
close
proximity
to
the
intersection
with
spruce
and
Yale.
It's
a
bad
traffic
situation
here,
you're
gonna
make
it
worse
and
you
could
have
two
cars
coming
on.
W
At
the
same
time,
you've
got
two
cars
going
out:
there's
no
safe
place
between
the
two
garage
doors
for
pedestrians.
We've,
the
greener
Gables
residents
have
opposed
the
garages
on
that
side
of
the
building
from
the
get-go.
We
have
a
kind
of
chance
to
comment
on
this
publicly
since
it
was
last
brought
to
us
in
March,
and
nothing
has
changed
since
that
point.
W
We
do
oppose
the
building
height,
although
I
know
in
terms
of
density
of
the
city,
is
encouraging
stronger
heights.
I
would
like
to
point
out,
though,
that
the
Minneapolis
2040
plan,
the
draft
revised
draft,
has
this
slated
as
a
four-story
Lots,
so
you're
going
against
your
planning
documents
from
the
get-go.
If
you're
gonna
improve
a
variance,
the
last
of
on
street
parking
has
been
brought
up.
There
are
three
meter
spots
on
Yale.
W
Currently
so
I
think
they
said,
there's
a
plus,
but
there's
only
a
plus
one
as
they've
have
it
shown
right
now,
but
yes,
you're,
adding
potentially
200
residents
to
the
neighborhood,
so
it's
a
net
loss
of
parking
and
then
the
lack
of
green
space
on
the
Ale
place
really
with
that
set
back
to
zero
with
the
garage
entrances.
There's
no
green
space
left
on
there
end
of
the
building.
It's
garages,
it's
a
balcony!
W
There's
nothing
left
if
you
look
at
their
their
documents
that
you
provided,
they
say
that
they
meet
the
greening
and
requirements,
but
they're
all
around
the
mansion
around
this
new
building.
There's
really
nothing
besides
some
Boulevard
trees,
but
they're
mirroring
the
street
to
fit
the
trees.
In
so
does
this
building
fit
the
site
not
as
proposed
you're
narrowing
the
street
you're
maximizing
up
to
the
intersection
all
to
fit
a
building,
then
to
save
a
man
chose.
So
those
like.
B
U
A
M
L
Know
that
there
are
concerns
that
have
been
raised
of
Public
Works
from
the
neighborhood
and
they
are
involved
in
or
they
are
working
with
the
neighborhood
on
some
issues.
What
those
are
specifically
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
know
if
anyone
from
sale
PC
is
here,
but
I
know
that
they
are
aware
of
this
interaction.
That's
going
on
between
the
neighborhood
and
Public
Works.
G
A
A
N
Let
you
know
that
that
we
we
have
heard
you,
but
tonight
it
happens
to
be
it
happens,
to
be
your
neighborhood.
But
this
is.
This
is
a
thing
that's
happening,
and
tonight
it's
your
neighborhood
and
and
you've
come
out
to
voice
your
complaints,
not
or
your
complaints
or
your
concerns,
at
least
about
it,
and
at
least
for
me,
as
a
member
of
this
Commissioner,
to
to
vote
no
based
on
those
things
would
be
inconsistent
with
with
the
ones
that
are
happening
in
the
other
neighborhoods
in
the
city.
N
And
so
we
do
hear
a
lot
that
everybody
seems
to
understand
the
goals
about
the
density
and
things
like
that.
But
and
I
understand
that
that
you
don't
want
this
project
necessarily
in
your
neighborhood.
But
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
that
tonight
it's
tonight
it's
this
neighborhood
but
any
other
night.
It's
it's
a
different
neighborhood
and
we're
having
the
same
same
discussions.
H
A
T
T
You
know
no
one
needs
to
rehash
the
history
of
Minneapolis
entering
down
beautiful
buildings.
This
is
a
beautiful
match
and
that's
going
to
be
saved
because
of
this
project.
I
think
we
should
recognize
that
this
is
in
many
ways.
You
know
a
six
story
building
at
a
busy
intersection,
but
it's
also
saving
historic
resource
within.
A
A
F
A
M
M
The
concern
about
sight
lines
and
intersections
I'm
not
entirely
convinced,
but
you
know,
greater
setback,
so
the
solution
to
pedestrian
and
bicycle
safety
I
think
that
there
are
certainly
issues
that
the
city
and
the
neighborhood
are
working
on.
It
seems
to
to
improve
safety
for
all
vehicle
and
pedestrian
uses
in
the
area,
and
it's
my
hope
that,
as
this
area
gets
more
dense,
it
puts
more
onus
on
on
the
public
to
to
come
up
with
those
solutions.
A
All
right,
any
further
discussion,
no
and
I
would
just
add
on
those
setback.
Variances,
you
know
the
or
district
does
envision
a
little
bit
of
a
yard
and
we're
still
getting
that
and
in
some
cases,
just
with
the
location
of
the
property
line,
and
it
does
appear,
one
of
the
graphics
show
the
sight
triangle
at
the
intersection,
and
it
appears
that
it's
adequate
for
that
I'll.
A
Mention,
though,
that
there
is
before
end
zoning
adjacent
to
this
site,
which
envisions
a
continuous
street
edge
and
that's
what
we
have
across
the
street
from
here
and
properties
in
the
neighborhood.
And
when
we
look
at
the
findings,
we
need
to
be
made
that
it's
in
keeping
with
the
spirit
of
the
plan,
also
that
that
it's
not
not
going
to
be
detrimental
to
the
enjoyment
of
adjacent
property
when
but
adjacent
properties
have
that
condition.
I
think
it's
fair
that
this
one
does
as
well.
A
O
Make
a
few
general
comments
about
the
building
I
also
live
in
Loring
Park
I
will
be
able
to
see
this
site
from
my
balcony.
You
know
a
lot
of
the
road
conditions
in
Loring.
Park
are
kind
of
bad
I.
Think
a
lot
of
the
streets
that
a
neighborhood
over
the
past
50
60
years
have
been
engineered
to
move
traffic
as
fast
as
possible,
from
downtown
Minneapolis
to
the
freeways
and
so
off.
O
At
the
time
cars
are
going
40
miles
an
hour,
45
miles
an
hour
and
nearing
those
streets
and
making
some
people
actually
do
have
to
slow
down
and
pay
attention
to
what
they're
doing
is
they're
crossing
the
street
or
as
they're
turning
I
think
does
clearly
make
it
a
lot
safer
for
pedestrians
and
other
folks
who
are
using
those
roads
and
in
general,
I
think
that
this
is
a
well-designed
project,
as
missioner
krons
er
pointed
out,
does
a
great
job
of
preserving
a
historic
building.
That's
on
the
corner.
O
A
I
A
H
H
Suggested
here
towards
the
PUD
is
three
points
for
the
pedestrian
improvements
which
is
which
largely
sits
on
the
I.
Guess
it's
an
east/west
pedestrian
pathway
that
runs
kind
of
through
the
middle
of
the
block.
That
would
be
a
connector
between
I
think
that
sort
of
bike
path
through
the
blog
passed
behind
the
orderin
apartments
and
the
Red
Cross
building
so
forth,
to
create
a
Thruway.
H
This
being
an
exceptional
pedestrian,
threw
away
without
any
active
uses
and
meeting
that
definition
and
I
think
there
are
other
ways
that
that
could
be
flushed
out,
maybe
with
more
printing
or
you
know,
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
are
encouraging
pedestrianism
is
a
sustainability,
could
be
other
ways
to
meet
some
of
that
intent
because
when
it
comes
for
alternative
compliance,
you
know
we
grant
internet
compliance,
that
the
alternative
meets.
The
intent
of
the
chapter
and
the
site
plan
includes
amenities
that
meet
that
not
just
not
sure
what
the
alternative
is
here.
X
X
Okay,
okay
and
then
I'll
get
to
that
specifically,
commissioner.
Well
so
the
project
before
you
is
at
1101
Ross,
West,
River
Parkway
the
site
is
currently
zone.
I
won
and
also
has
the
downtown
parking
overlay,
the
downtown
height
overlay
in
the
industrial
living
overlay.
The
applicant
is
seeking
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
Planned
Unit
development
for
a
124
dwelling
unit,
building
functionally
a
41
story,
building
technically
a
48
story.
Building
with
how
the
zoning
code
defines
a
story
and
which
also
includes
a
proposed
1,300
square
feet
of
commercial
space.
X
The
applicants
also
seeking
a
variance
to
reduce
the
rear
yard
from
99
feet
to
40
feet
for
that
requirement.
That's
along
the
South
property
line,
a
variance
to
increase
the
maximum
height
of
a
fence
along
the
eastern
North
property
line
from
810
feet
sight
line,
review
and
preliminary
and
final
plat
I
know
that
the
applicant
team
is
here
and
they
can
probably
answer
specific
questions.
Also,
so
I
won't
go
through
a
lot
of
detail
with
the
design
other
than
to
say
that
the
current
site
is
occupied
by
a
four-story
office
building
and
surface
parking
lot.
X
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
develop
a
surface
parking
lot
with
the
new
proposal
and
to
replant
the
land.
The
new
plat
would
create
access
to
the
new
structure
via
11th
Avenue,
so
there'd
be
a
driveway
accessing
all
of
the
parking
on
site
off
of
11th
and
then,
as
a
part
of
the
planning,
a
development
application.
The
applicant
is
proposing
a
number
of
amenities,
one
of
which
is
a
pedestrian
Plaza
along
West
River
Parkway
in
between
the
new
proposed
Tower
and
the
existing
office
building.
X
The
hope
and
plan
I
believe
is
that
that's
connection
would
become
a
full
connection
between
the
Dinkytown,
Greenway
and
gold-medal
Park
and
potentially
would
integrate
pedestrian
access
between
a
lot
of
the
residential
parcels
on
the
site.
One
of
the
recommended
conditions
of
approval
from
staff
was
to
move
the
proposed
pedestrian
pathway.
X
That's
that
was
originally
proposed
through
the
surface
parking
lot
to
the
other
side
of
the
surface
parking
stalls
so
that
there
wasn't
conflict
between
those
parking
spaces
and
pedestrian
access
to
the
plaza
along
the
West
River
Parkway
I
provided
a
memo
that
has
a
revised
site
plan
and
landscaping
plan
for
you.
That
shows
the
applicants
proposal
in
that
regard.
X
The
applicants
not
proposing
to
establish
new
public
right-of-way
along
the
South
property
line,
but
the
intent
and
the
way
that
the
standard
is
written
for
pedestrian
enhancements
in
the
plan
unit
development
is
that
it
is
enhanced
an
exceptional
pedestrian
access
through
and
around
the
site,
both
on
private
property
and
the
public
right-of-way.
So
staff
felt
that
that
condition
was
met
and
that
it
is
not
specifically
tied
to
its
adjacency
to
active
uses.
X
There
are
some
details
provided
in
the
application
for
the
fence
variance.
This
is
a
fence
along
West,
River,
Parkway
and
along
the
east
property
line,
enclosing
the
purpose
to
vehicle
courts
and
then
there's
a
diagram
sort
of
displaying
the
different
amenity
proposals
that
the
applicant
is
proposing
as
a
part
of
the
plan,
yet
development.
X
The
exceptions
that
they're
seeking
to
the
zoning
code
through
the
PUD
are
for
building
height,
so
in
the
eye
wand
as
a
four-story
height
limit
in
the
downtown
height
overlay
that
increases
to
six
they're,
taking
an
exception
to
go
to
forty-eight
via
the
zoning
code
definition
of
stories
and
then
I
should
just
address
the
the
rear
yard.
Variance
that
requirement
comes
from
the
underlying
industrial
zoning
and
is
really
intended
has
a
safeguard
against
harmful
or
noxious
industrial
uses
adjacent
to
residential
uses.
X
The
Planning
Department
underwent
a
zoning
reform
recently,
where
we
eliminated
that
requirement
from
commercial
districts
with
the
intention
of
enabling
our
residential
development
that
was
less
encumbered
by
those
large
yard
variances,
with
the
assumption
that
those
uses
are
not
as
harmful
to
adjacencies.
So
I
hope
that
addresses
some
of
your
question.
Commissioner,
Rockwell
and
I'll
conclude
my
presentation
there
and
I
can
answer
specific
questions,
but
also
I
know.
The
applicant
is
here
to
speak
as
well.
A
Y
Y
We're
happy
to
answer
your
question
and
more
detail
here
tonight,
but
we
have
in
corporate
and
we
feel
that
comments
that
were
made
from
community
the
whole
very
well
in
terms
of,
as
you
mentioned,
the
active
use
requirement
along
West
or
Parkway,
as
well
as
in
front
of
the
motor
court
and
the
new
pedestrian
pathway
going
east
and
west.
It
doesn't
exist
today
on
the
site
and
this
definitely
creates
a
it's.
H
I'm
just
saying
you
coming
off
11th
and
then
you
can
drive
you
can
both
walk
and
drive
your
car
all
the
way
to
until
you're
kind
of
dead,
end
correct
it's
a
little
bit.
You
can
write
and
then
you
can,
if
you're
in
a
car
to
the
left
and
then
you're
coming
at
the
front
entrance
of
the
building,
correct.
H
T
Y
We
are
proposing
that
the
homeowners
association
maintain
and
secure
in
light
that
pedestrian
pathway
and
driveway,
along
with
the
motor
court
in
the
landscaping,
so
we
do
propose
it
being
entirely
privately
maintained
by
the
homeowners
association
given
that
private
property
but
available
to
the
public
that
all
be
gates
or
anything.
You
know
precluding
someone
from
walking
through
there.
Okay.
Z
Thank
you.
Forgive
this
first
time,
I've
spoken
here
before
so
apologies
for
any
protocol
breaches
I
make.
My
name
is
Jim
Miller
and
I
now
have
at
1240
South
second
Street
Minneapolis,
which
is
property
the
legacy
which
would
be
south
of
the
11
building.
My
main
concern
coming
today
was
on
the
Part
B
variance
the
drop
from
99
to
40
feet,
which,
as
I
understand
now,
it
was
mainly
for
industrial
purposes,
but
their
concerns
as
a
resident
of
the
new
Legacy
building
about
the
burden
and
closeness
to
our
new
building
as
well.
Z
That's
the
main
concern
we
have,
especially
with
the
41:48
Story
portion
being
directly
in
front
of
our
new
building.
We
have
here
again
it
come
as
a
private
resident.
I
don't
represent
the
building,
it's
a
brand-new
building,
I'd
say
less
than
10%
has
have
moved
in,
and
the
majority
are
not
aware
of
this
setback
and
how
close
it
will
be.
So
I
would
ask
that
either
denial
of
that
variance
or
time
for
further
discussion
among
further
residents
as
they
come
in
as
they're
being
made
aware.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
P
Good
evening
my
name
is
Tim
belt,
so
my
address
is
734
Street
in
Minneapolis
and
I'm
here
to
speak
in
favor
of
the
application
and
staffs
recommendation
for
approval
I'm,
a
resident
of
downtown
Minneapolis
moved
here
three
years
ago
from
the
suburbs
and
in
really
enjoying
the
density
and
the
diversity
and
all
the
great
things
that
the
downtown
living
in
downtown
environment
is
and
I
think
this
project
it
will
be
iconic
and
it'll.
I
have
more
diversity
in
terms
of
bringing
more
folks
down
here
and
I.
P
A
H
Concern
and
I
just
open
it
up
to
here,
but
commissioners
think
about
it.
You
know
we
can
kind
of
work.
This
group
right,
you
know
my
concern.
I,
am
aware
that
this
is
not
technically
a
public
right
away
at
the
back
here
and
I'm,
not
indicating
that
that
it
is
but
I
think
the
intent
is
that
is
publicly
accessible.
H
When
we
think
about
what
makes
an
exceptional
pedestrian
realm,
we
have
sort
of
decided
as
a
city
through
our
thorough
codes
that
do
apply
to
public
rights,
away
that
that
not
being
long
serve
car
focused
or
both
walls
is
important.
I
mean
we
just
denied
variance
in
it.
Conditioning
is
permanent
for
an
expansion
of
a
parking
lot
downtown
earlier
tonight
and
so
I'm
not
to
say
that
the
alternative
compliance
code-
language
applies
here,
in
fact,
or
rather
than
principle,
that
a
right
away
should
have
active
uses
in
a
context
like
this
and
I
am
I.
H
H
The
the
proximity
to
vehicles
and
the
number
of
partner
stalls
again
we've
talked
about
this
in
a
lot
of
contexts,
and
this
is
one
way
that
that
manifests
itself
and
that
we've
tried
to
control
that,
through
our
code
and
and
and
if
we're,
giving
points
for
quote
exceptional
pedestrian
facilities.
I,
just
wonder
what
we
can
do
to
make
this
exceptional
and
maybe
I
don't
have
anybody
that
thinks
this
isn't
exceptional,
which
case.
Let's
move
on
alright,
that's
kind
of
an
open
open-ended.
One
of
my
fellow
commissioners
think.
M
A
M
Generally
agree
with
Commissioner
Rockwell's
comments
here,
I
think
it's
fantastic.
What
the
improvements
that
we've
seen
on
this
project
overall,
but
if
the
vision
along
that
pedestrian
space
is
for
people
to
actually
walk
there,
it
would.
It
would
be
great
for
us
to
move
in
in
a
direction
of
showing
exceptional
active
uses
along
that
not
really
right
away
but
effectively
right
away.
O
O
A
Would
tend
to
agree,
I,
and
you
know
I
think
you
know,
as
the
applicant
I
think
alluded
to
in
in
retrospect
you
know,
maybe
when
this
area
was
developed,
not
all
that
many
years
ago,
I
think
less
than
20
years
ago.
You
know
we
didn't
really
have
a
vision
for
an
urban
environment
here
and
ended
up
with
a
very,
very
large
block,
so
I
think
in
retrospect.
If
we
had
a
different
vision
for
the
area,
originally
things
might
have,
the
conditions
might
have
been
different.
A
I
do
think
that
I
mean
a
building
does
often
need
a
backside,
as
just
as
the
legacy
does,
and
while
I
think
that
having
a
connection,
that's
publicly
accessible
through
here
in
the
long
term
is
very
important
and
I'm
glad
to
see
that
was
incorporated
in
the
project.
I'm,
not
sure
that
it
changes
to
that
south
facade
are
going
to
drastically
change
that
environment.
H
You
know
this
doesn't
have
to
be
a
massive
set
of
changes,
but
through
additional
landscaping
or
lighting
or
mobility
doesn't
need
to
have
a
backside,
but,
as
discussed
earlier
by
the
applicant,
this
is
an
11
acre
block
and
we're
sort
of
trying
to
break
this
block
up
to
make
it
more
urban
scale.
And
if
we're
trying
to
break
the
block
up
to
make
a
more
urban
scale,
then
we're
saying
the
side
of
the
building
is
also
a
front
to
that.
Interior
pathway
and
I
I.
H
But
again,
if
you
like
it,
if
this
is
a
backside,
but
if
we're
giving
PUD
points
for
this,
and
the
basis
of
that
is
that
it's
exceptional
I
think
we
could
think
creatively
or
maybe
we
could
give
direction
to
work
with
staff
on
a
lighting
and
grading
plan.
That
brings
us
up
more.
My
preference
would
be
active
uses,
but
I
don't
think
this.
So.
A
H
Mean
my
preference
is
human
being
is
that
we
would
have
active
uses.
My
knowledge
is
like
a
pragmatic
person.
Looking
at
these
drawings
is
that
that
seems
highly
unlikely
that
we
could
do
that
without
reviewing
what
is
a
good
project,
and
so
I'd
like
to
hear
what
sort
of
what
the
full
vision
here
is
in
frankly
I'm
using
this,
not
just
to
tell
this
applicant
about
to
tell
other
applicants
coming
down
the
pike.
Looking
at
this
very
carefully,
because
if
we're
gonna
give
points
for
something
like
this,
it
actually
has
to
be
exceptional.
X
I'm
happy
to
let
the
applicant
address
that
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
also
that
the
applicant
is
proposing
a
significant
amount
of
enhanced
exterior
pedestrian
scaled
lighting,
which
I
think
addresses
both
of
those
issues
in
terms
of
the
enhanced
lighting
standard,
but
also
the
pedestrian
standard
and
I
didn't
include
the
specifications
for
the
actual
fixtures
in
your
packet.
But
you
can
look
at
the
plan
and
it
I
will
say
that
in
my
experience
it's
one
of
the
nicer
exterior
lighting
plans
that
we've
seen
and
definitely
helped
staff
get
to
meeting
that
standard.
AA
Hi,
my
name
is
Paul
Whelan
and
I'm.
The
partner
of
Robert
Chernin
Architects
in
New,
York
I,
don't
know
if
you
need
my
home
address
in
New
York
City.
So
we
respect
to
the
east-west
walkway
it
does.
We
are
providing
a
series
of
low
scale
fixtures.
It
would
mean
any
12
feet
high
10
feet
high
so
that
they're
definitely
pedestrian
scale
total.
AA
You
know
car
scale
to
light
that
passageway
and
we're
providing
a
row
of
trees
all
the
way
down
there
to
sort
of
create
a
kind
of
a
space
above
the
walkway
and
Green
hedge
and
then
along
the
south
side
of
the
building,
we're
providing
another
landscape
strip
and
that
debate
we're
creating
a
base
to
the
building
to
create
them.
So
the
building
doesn't
just
come
down,
but
we
have
a
stream
chorus
and
a
base
and
we
have
a
series
of
recessed
panels
along
the
bottom
of
the
building.
AA
That
will
give
bring
a
pedestrian
scale
and
they
will
be
up
lighted
from
below
so
they'll
glow,
but
fixtures
themselves
are
going
to
be
on
the
opposite
side.
She
thought
it'd
be
too
much
to
fix
this
on
both
sides
of
the
street,
but
the
Bob
and
the
building
will
glow
and
and
then
above
that
there
are
additional
recessed
elements.
Sort
of
there
are
a
lot
of
industrial
buildings.
Actually
they
have
sort
of
recessed
panels
that
break
down
the
scale
of
the
of
the
facade.
AA
A
K
M
A
Motion
and
a
second
to
approve
items
B
and
C,
the
variances
for
rear
yard
setback,
and
this
is
there
any
discussion,
since
one
of
the
speakers
did
touch
on
that
issue,
I
will
say
you
know,
as
mr.
Crandall
stated,
that
ninety
nine
foot
setback
would
relate
to
the
underlying
industrial
zoning
here,
and
that
would
be
pretty
impractical
to
require
such
a
deep
setback
at
a
very
urban
location
like
this
property,
even
though
it
is
somewhat
larger
property,
would
make
it
somewhat
difficult
to
develop
as
well
and
I.
Don't
know
what
I
mean
just
having
parking.