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From YouTube: September 12, 2018 Minneapolis Park & Recreation Board
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Minneapolis Park & Recreation Board Meeting
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There's
a
16
mile
loop,
there's
a
13
mile
loop
and
a
32
mile
loop,
excuse
me
and
or
if
you
just
want
to
come
and
cheers
folks
on
come
on
down
it
promises
to
be
a
very
good
time,
with
a
little
bit
of
fun,
even
planned
for
after
the
bike
tour
I
know
Commissioner
make
for
me
is
gonna,
be
there.
Okay,
yes,
is
your
name
Stephanie
music?
It
mutates.
It's
gonna,
be
there.
Okay,
Commissioner
John,
Oh,
Cole
Gail
is
gonna,
be
there
Commissioner
crisp
Mayer
is
gonna,
be
there
so
Oh.
E
E
Nearly
$500,000
worth
of
sidewalk
work,
touching
25
parks
across
our
system,
so
we're
nearing
completion
of
that,
and
so
that's
really
that's
really
exciting.
I
hope
they
got
the
places
that
I
I
was
a
little
concerned
about
environmental
management,
starting
on
Monday.
This
coming
Monday
September
17th,
the
boat
launches
at
potema,
Casca,
Lake
Harriet,
as
well
almost
will
close
at
9:00
p.m.
so
you'll
need
to
be
off
the
lake.
Around
9:00
p.m.
E
E
Since
the
lounge
is
opened
on
May
1st
MP
RV
watercraft
inspectors
have
conducted
5,000,
687
inspections.
Additionally,
the
inspectors
have
conducted
13,000
732
non
motor
interactions
through
the
end
of
August
AIS
inspectors
reported
127
AIS
violations
that
the
boat
launches,
including
ten
occurrences
of
zebra
mussels
on
watercraft
and
59
occurrences
of
aquatic
plants
watercraft.
So
we
you
know,
we've
got
work
to
still
to
do
in
that
area.
E
This
past
Saturday,
the
10th
annual
Minneapolis
monarch
fest
attracted
an
estimated
10,000
participants.
So
I
know
they
had
a
great
time.
I
hope
people
took
pictures,
got
great
pictures
of
the
butterflies
people
of
all
ages,
learned
again
about
the
Monarchs
and
they
listened
and
danced
to
music
made.
Ireland
did
much
more
so
again.
Look
for
those
pictures
on
our
Facebook
page.
E
Later
this
week
for
sequels,
so
if
you're
there
we'll
be
working
extensively
along
theatres,
worth
Parkway
from
I-94
to
Olson
Highway,
and
this
work
will
focus
on
clearing
the
vegetation
from
the
edge
of
the
road,
removing
undergrowth
along
trails
and
cutting
grapevines
that
are
harming
pine
trees.
So
that
concludes
my
reports
of
offices.
Thank
you.
Thank.
G
Superintendent
Merrill
in
past
years,
we
had
a
number
for
voters
to
call
if
they
were
on
the
lake
after
we
were
staffing
but
prior
to
the
park
itself.
Closing.
Is
that
not
the
case
for
this
year?
I'm
sorry,
the
parks
closed
at
10:00
we
only
stopped
till
9:00.
If
we've
got
people
that
are
out
boating
until
10:00
p.m.
is
there
a
number
posted
that
they
can
call
to
ask
for
assistance
getting
off
the
water
at
the
launch
or
have
we
discontinued
that
practice
for
this
year?.
A
Any
other
questions
for
the
superintendent,
seeing
none
we'll
move
on
I
would
entertain
a
motion
for
the
consent
agenda
resolutions
2018
to
83
through
2018
to
85
as
their
emotion,
it's
been
moved.
Is
there
a
second
the
idea
consent
agenda
has
been
moved
and
seconded?
Is
there
any
discussion
seeing
no
discussion
on
2018
to
83
through
2018
to
85
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
opposed
abstentions.
The
consent
agenda
carries
moving
on
to
reports
of
stand
committees,
chair,
Severson,
I,.
A
A
I
You,
mr.
president,
this
concerns
of
the
last
item
under
is
a
consent
item
on
a
resolution
to
18
to
85.
The
board
should
and
he
recommended
that
the
board
should
and
the
board
did
approve
this
I
just
want
to
give
the
board
the
heads-up
there.
There
has
been
a
lawsuit
that
was
filed
by
a
unsuccessful
bidder.
I
Last
matter,
the
city
of
Minneapolis
turned
down
that
bitter
for
failure
to
meet
certain
civil
rights
requirements,
but
I
did
there
is
pending
litigation,
but
in
our
opinion,
that
litigation
should
not
affect
the
award
of
this
bed,
but
I
felt
that
it
was
important
that
you,
the
board
at
least
know
about
it
involved.
The
company
called
G
curb
edgy
urban
that
did
not
meet
the
requirements
of
the
city
for
in
business,
owned
enterprises.
It
should
that
litigation
be
successful.
We
don't
think
it
would
be
if
it
was
successful.
I
The
only
remedy
this
bitter
would
have
would
be
for
the
cost
of
preparing
their
bed,
but
we
do
want
the
board
to
be
aware
of
that
moving
forward.
Thank
you.
I
think
this
was
staff
coming
forward.
I,
probably
should
have
had
that
advice
given
to
you
before
you
voted
on
it,
so
you
could
be
fully
informed.
A
You,
council
race,
your
report
is
received
and
just
for
clarification,
your
report
does
not
change
the
staff
recommendations
that
that
are
because
that's
correct.
If
there
are
any
commissioners
that
are
uncomfortable
with
the
vote
that
they
just
took.
I
would
entertain
a
motion
right
now
for
to
reconsider
2018
to
85,
not
seeing
any
motion,
so
we
will
move
on
with.
We
will
move
on
with
the
agenda.
Thank
you
for
the
report
council
race.
Moving
on
to
the
planning
committee
chair,
forney
on.
J
Behalf
of
the
planning
committee
I'd
like
to
move
resolution
2018
to
76
resolution
concurring
with
the
Federal
Transit
Authority's
findings
of
a
temporary
occupancy
exemption
under
Section
4
of
the
transportation
Act
of
1966
for
the
d-line
bus,
rapid
transit
project
on
Todd
Park
and
P
V
Park
contention
on
MPR
B's,
continued
involvement
in
the
ongoing
design
of
the
project
and
a
full
implement
implementation
of
mitigation
efforts
identified
in
the
finding.
Thank.
A
J
To
move
resolution,
2018
275,
a
resolution
approving
Memorandum
of
Understanding
between
wall
development,
company
Mississippi,
watershed
management
organization
in
Minneapolis,
Park
and
Recreation
Board
to
explore
options
of
the
tower
side,
green
space
model
for
ownership,
development
and
management.
Thank.
A
K
A
A
This
was
a
significant
portion
of
his
work
plan
for
for
this
year
and
I
when
I
think
chair
kögel
and
the
superintendent
and
the
other
staff
that
had
helped
worked
on
at
and
had
taken
some
feedback
from
community
members
after
the
city
come
forward
the
last
time
and
really
taking
that
feedback
honestly
and
had
come
back
and
make
made
made
some
revisions
so
I.
Thank
you
chief
for
your
work,
seeing
no
further
discussion
of
2018
225,
all
of
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye,
aye
opposed
abstentions.
The
motion
carries
unanimously
chair,
Koval,
I.
K
A
K
A
Motion
has
been
moved.
Is
there
a
second?
Second,
it's
been
moved
and
seconded
that
I.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
2018
279?
Seeing
none
I
would
just
ask
counsels.
Advice
on
2018
279
is
a
youths
agreement.
I,
don't
believe
that
this
requires
a
roll
call.
Okay,
thank
you.
All.
Those
in
favor
of
2018
to
79,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
opposed
abstentions.
A
L
All
right,
Thank,
You,
commissioners,
so
I'm
here
tonight
to
give
you
a
quick
update
on
the
upper
harbor
terminal,
but
the
main
purpose
is
that
we
staff
have
some
questions
for
you
regarding
funding
for
the
upper
harbor
terminal.
So
since
it's
a
very
complicated
project,
we
probably
really
can't
give
you
a
full
update.
I
would
need
to
have
the
entire
team
here,
including
the
city
and
the
developers
and
everything,
and
so
because
it's
not
for
engagement
right
now.
L
You
may
be
getting
some
questions
and
things
from
community
members,
so
I
wanted
to
give
you
kind
of
a
snapshot
of
where
we
are
in
the
process
and
a
quick
overview
of
what
you
might
be
seeing
and
hearing.
But
I
would
suggest
that
if
you
want
to
dive
deeper
into
the
project
that
we
could
arrange
a
time
where
you
could
have
a
much
more
in-depth
update
and
ask
us
kind
of
much
more
in-depth
questions
as
we're
working
through
the
community
process
at
the
same
time.
L
So
so,
first
of
all,
I
just
wanted
to
note
kind
of
where
we
are
the
upper
harbor
terminal
is.
Is
you
know
if
you
have
a
long?
History
has
been
a
site
that
has
been
in
question
for
decades
and
now
the
city,
the
Park,
Board
and
a
master
developer
are
moving
forward
with
a
have
been
moving
forward
with
a
planning
process
and
in
August
we
released
a
draft
concept
and
we
kind
of
initiated
engagement
specifically
on
that
concept.
L
Right
now,
we've
had
three
four
public
meetings:
quite
a
number
of
focus
groups
open
hours
and
things
like
that.
We're
in
the
midst
of
scheduling
our
second
round
of
engagement,
to
kind
of
do
some
more
small
group
work
and
dive
deeper
in,
but
right
now
we
have
wanted
to
give
you
an
update
on
just
this
processes,
it's
being
rolled
out
to
the
public
and
then
also
get
your
feedback
on
some
of
our
funding
questions.
L
We
don't
know
how
long
it
will
take
us
to
work
through
to
get
to
a
concept
that
we
feel
has
general
approval.
You
know
we
were
hoping,
maybe
by
the
end
of
the
year,
but
we
are
we'll
have
to
see
how
the
engagement
goes
to
know
how
long
that
process
is
going
to
take,
and
then
you
know
the
next
couple
of
years.
We
would
continue
to
develop
that
concept
start
to
look
at
redevelopment
improvements
and
then
possibly
initial
site.
Improvements
might
begin
here
in
the
next
two
to
three
years.
L
So
if
you're
familiar
with
the
site
and
I'm
going
to
fly
very
quick
quickly
through
this,
but
I
wanted
to
to
see
just
kind
of
a
sample
of
what's
out
there
in
the
public.
If
you're
familiar
with
the
site,
it
is
48
acres
in
North
Minneapolis
on
the
Mississippi
River
between
the
freeway
and
the
park
board
and
south
of
our
North
Mississippi,
Regional
Park
and
just
north
of
Lowry
Bridge
about
a
mile
long,
it's
a
very
industrial
site.
So
if
you've
seen
the
domes,
you
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
industrial
infrastructure.
L
So
the
process
that
we're
working
through
right
now
really
started
in
a
lot
of
ways
back
in
2011,
where
the
park
board
had
their
River
first
initiative
did
a
lot
of
engagement
around
that
the
city
and
the
park
board
followed
up
with
above
the
Falls
Regional
Park
plans
and
master
plan
updates.
But
these
the
engagement
for
this
was
done
for
kind
of
that
whole
upper
river
as
a
whole.
L
And
so,
when
we
really
started
focusing
in
on
the
upper
harbour
terminal,
it
was
more
in
2015
with
the
end
of
barging,
so
we
went
through
a
process
where
we
felt
we
really
needed
market
insight
and
the
city
in
the
park
board
wanted
to
collaborate
rather
than
kind
of
arbitrarily
spending
splitting
the
process.
We
felt
that
we
were
gonna
maximize
both
the
park
and
the
development
potential
and
get
the
most
out
of
what
community
members
wanted.
If
we
work
together,
we
needed
market
insight.
We
needed
to
understand.
L
You
know
what
the
possibilities
were
for
this
really
challenging
site.
So
we
sought
a
partner,
not
a
plan,
and
we
can't
our
currently
working
with
the
one
team
that
submitted
Thor
companies,
United
properties
and
first
opening
productions,
and
then,
with
kind
of
the
introduction
of
that
development
team,
we
kicked
off
engagement
in
2017
and
did
a
lot
of
more
robust
engagement.
L
This
time
it
was
still
fairly
general
asking
people
what
they
wanted
to
see
happen
here,
responding
to
some
basic
kind
of
general
ideas
that
we
heard
so
far,
but
it
was
now
focusing
in
more
on
the
upper
harbour
terminal
as
opposed
to
kind
of
the
entire
upper
riverfront.
So
there's
a
lot
of
more
information
about
that
engagement
online.
We
could
do
a
whole
hour
on
just
the
engagement,
but
I
won't
go
into
all
of
the
details.
L
So
this
would
be
a
multi-phase
development,
starting
with
a
doweling
who
we're
looking
at
about
15
and
a
half
acres
of
public
park
space
and
when
I
go
through
this
I'm,
not
going
to
try
to
really
present
the
developers
concept
for
them,
because
I
couldn't
do
it
complete
justice
in
the
time
that
we
have
tonight,
but
I
will
probably
go
into
a
little
more
depth
on
the
park
and
kind
of
aim
impacts
for
us.
So
we
are
looking
at
facing
since
Dowling
is
the
current.
L
Only
access
right
now
to
the
site,
then
that
would
kind
of
naturally
be
the
place
that
it
would
start
so.
The
first
phase
is
kind
of
that
northern
half
of
the
site
and
I'll
go
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
some
of
these
as
we
go
through.
The
second
phase
would
fill
in
again
are
on
that
northern
portion
of
the
site.
That's
what
you
see
in
purple
here.
The
third
phase
is
a
little
bit
more
in
question.
L
That's
the
sort
of
teal
areas
at
the
bottom,
that's
impacted
by
some
of
the
surrounding
uses,
including
gif,
and
so
we
do
have
some
questions
for
community
members
as
we
go
through
this
on.
You
know
how
and
when
they
might
like
to
see
that
third
face
development,
but
that
is
probably
the
part
that
is
a
little
bit
in
question
because
we
it's
going
to
be
impacted
by
what
happens
on
the
first
two
phases
as
well.
L
So
one
of
the
things
that
you've
probably
heard
about
is
the
idea
of
a
large
performing
arts
venue
on
the
riverfront,
and
this
was
an
idea
that
the
development
team
has
come
in
with
from
the
beginning.
This
was
something
that
you
know.
Early
engagement
told
us
that
people
really
liked
the
idea
of
music
said
that
that
would
bring
them
to
the
frontof,
but
music
on
the
riverfront
can
take
a
lot
of
forms,
a
lot
of
scales
and
things,
and
so
we
needed
to
dig
deeper
into
this
question
and
find
out.
L
You
know
what
exactly
did
people
mean,
and
it
was
kind
of
this
vision
that
was
shaping
out.
Was
that
fitting,
with
what
we'd
heard
one
of
the
things
as
as
we
go
through
this?
The
development
team
in
the
city
in
the
park
board
as
well
have
tried
to
really
articulate
kind
of
how
this
concept
responds
to
questions
and
concerns
and
wishes
that
we
heard
from
community
members,
and
some
of
that
gets
a
little
bit
more
into
specifics
of
you
know
what
kind
of
benefits
do
we
see
coming
out
of
these?
L
These
different
initiatives
that
go
on
here
so
I'll
show
some
pictures
of
it
in
just
a
second,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we
try
to
do
is
put
things
in
scale
for
people.
So
the
performing
arts
venue
that
First
Avenue
productions
is
looking
at
here.
We
tried
to
put
in
scale
with
some
of
the
other,
you
know
large
event
and
music
venues
in
the
area.
L
And
these
shows
some
of
the
pictures
that
they
put
out
to
show
how
they're
consolidating
seating
in
what
they
call
kind
of
the
gantry
scheme
to
minimize
the
amount
of
footprint
and
maximum
the
availability
of
kind
of
just
general
green
space
on
the
river
and
they're.
Looking
for
options
for
ways
that
they
can
accommodate
small
performances
because
they
heard
that
that
was
a
desire
from
the
community.
As
we
did
previous
engagement
and
they
have
put
together
and
articulated
a
community
benefits
package
which
I
won't
go
into
now.
L
But
looking
at
how
employment
could
work
public
programming
and
things
like
that,
so
that
people
can
really
respond
to
something
a
little
bit
more
specific
as
they're.
Looking
at
this
concept,
one
of
the
things
is
that
they're,
looking
at
a
particular
tour
paid
events
for
this
that
then
go
back
and
support
community
programming
around
65
days
of
the
year,
and
then
that
would
also
support
maintenance
of
the
facility
to
keep
it
open
another
250
days
a
year
so
that
it's
available
to
the
public
when
it's
not
being
closed
off
for
ticketed
events.
L
That
they're
setting
aside
to
hopefully
develop
as
incubator
space,
health
and
wellness
space,
and
they
kind
of
work
with
community
partners
to
create
sort
of
a
community
LED
vision
and
implemented
there.
So
they're
articulating
what
kind
of
affordable
housing
they
can
feel
that
they
can
provide
on
the
site,
at
least
based
on
the
current
development
numbers.
What
kind
of
jobs
kind
of
how
large
these
buildings
are?
L
So
these
are
all
ongoing
conversations,
so
I'm
going
through
the
details
really
very
quickly,
but
if
you
have
questions
about
it,
this
is
exactly
the
kind
of
detail
that
we
can
get
into
into
more
so
and
just
the
community
innovation
have
a
little
bit
more.
This
is
something
that
is
very
much
in
flux.
People
are
starting
to
kind
of
envision.
What
could
be
here
and
there
there
are
some
ideas
that
are
starting
to
take
shape,
but
it
hasn't
been
decided
yet
by
any
means.
L
So
the
perk
space
on
this,
which
is
shown
in
green
on
here,
we
are
looking
at
15
and
a
half
acres
of
public
park,
definitely
all
along
the
riverfront,
where
we
have
consistent
pedestrian
and
bicycle
access
with
the
trail
and
then
the
parkway
on
here,
which
I'll
show
in
a
minute
and
a
couple
of
more
what
we
call
meaningful
park.
Spaces,
which
is,
are
spaces
that
are
kind
of
beyond
linear
connections,
which
is
what
a
lot
of
this
this
property
is.
L
We're
also
trying
to
put
our
information
into
scale
so
that
people
can
relate
it
back
to
familiar
spaces
so
compared
to
other
nurse-like
park
spaces.
You
know
you
can
see
that
the
meaningful
park
spaces
we're
talking
about
one
right
at
the
end
of
Dowling
one
a
little
bit
further
south
you
know,
are,
respectively,
a
little
less
than
an
acre
and
about
2.3
acres
and
then
we're
looking
at
about
twelve
and
a
half
acres
of
more
the
linear,
Riverfront
Park
space
that
adds
up
to
the
15
and
a
half.
L
So
one
of
our
goals
on
this
was
to
get
people
as
quickly
as
possible
into
public
green
space
on
the
river
and
since
Dowling
is
the
main
access.
This
last
block
of
Dowling
right
now
in
this
concept
is
shown
as
a
pedestrian
area,
so
that
there's
not
vehicles
on
this
portion.
But
this
is
not
only
just
a
circulation
about
to
get
you
as
quickly
to
Dowling
as
possible,
but
also
a
a
place
where
we
could
accommodate
some
of
the
things
that
people
were
interested
in
having
the
public
spaces
such
as
markets.
L
Small
pop-up
concerts,
food
trucks.
You
know
water
play
those
kind
of
water
access,
those
those
sorts
of
kind
of
slightly
more
urban
things
and
I'll.
Just
note,
too,
that
these
parks
are
in
no
way
designed
want
to
do
is
kind
of
show
what
could
fit
in
these
spaces
and
some
of
the
things
that
we've
heard
from
the
community
so
far.
L
The
2.3
acre
park
space
here.
This
is
kind
of
our
largest
space
set
aside,
and
it
could
vary
quite
a
bit.
But
one
of
the
things
we
do
want
to
keep
in
mind
is
that
it
will
be
also
sort
of
the
neighborhood
park
for
any
residences
in
here,
as
well
as
a
portion
of
the
McKinley
neighborhoods.
So
you
know
what
form
this
park
takes
is
much
more
wide
open.
L
L
But
again
this
is
something
that
is
kind
of
out
there
for
input
and
so
we're
still
working
through
weather.
How
people
feel
about
this
Parkway
and
just
an
example
of
how
you
know
we
might
look
at
making
trying
to
make
this
Parkway
into
a
space
as
much
as
it
is
a
connection
for
vehicles.
We're
certainly
looking
at
things
like
green
infrastructure
or
regional
stormwater,
District
stormwater,
but
that
is
a
layer
of
design
that
we
haven't
really
fully
gotten
into
yet
so
into.
L
A
Miss
Lammers,
the
time
is
7:30
and
I
think
we'll
take
a
break
to
move
into
open
time.
Thank
you
for
the
reminders,
so
hold
that
thought,
the
time
being,
7:30
I'm,
going
to
open
up
open
time,
for
those
of
you
watching
at
home
were
in
the
audience.
Open
time
is
the
time
of
every
one
of
our
meetings
where
we
we
receive
public
comment
from
members
of
the
community.
Any
individuals
wishing
to
speak
can
call
in
can
get
on
our
list
of
speakers
by
calling
into
the
BARC
board
before
3:00
p.m.
A
on
the
on
the
day
that
we
will
be
receiving
public
comment.
Open
time
shall
not
exceed
15
minutes
with
time
to
be
allocated
by
the
chair.
I
have
two
speakers
signed
up
this
evening,
so
I
will
allocate
three
minutes
per
speaker
during
open
time.
This
is
our
time
to
listen
to
you.
So
we
receive
your
comment
without
any
public
debate.
A
We
may
ask
clarifying
questions,
but
we're
not
here
to
debate
anything
that
you're
asking
and
I
may
refer
you
for
further
information,
the
staff,
if
you
have
any
signs
they
are
allowed
in
the
chambers,
but
we
ask
that
people
be
thoughtful
of
people
who
may
be
having
their
vision
blocked
by
your
signs
and
ask
you
to
if
you
do
have
a
sign
you
want
to
display
that
displayed
around
the
perimeter
of
the
room.
We
ask
that
folks
remain
seated
as
long
as
their
seats
available.
There
are
two
types
of
items
that
are
not
for
that.
A
We
don't
here
at
open
time
and
those
are
pending
litigation
and
personnel
issues.
So
if
you
have
any
feedback
on
either
of
those
your
best
way
to
get
make
sure
that
commissioners
and
the
superintendent
here
that
is
to
reach
us
reach
out
to
us
directly
and
all
of
our
contact
information
is
on
the
Park
Board
website.
The
Park
Board
does
not
tolerate
any
discriminatory
and/or
harassing
words
directed
at
anyone.
So
we
ask
that
folks
keep
that
in
mind,
while
they're
making
their
comments.
A
That
said,
I
have
two
speakers
signed
up
for
open
time.
My
first
speaker
is
Chris
Staley
and
then
jjang,
if
is
Chris
here
this
evening,
Chris.
If
you'd
like
to
come
forward
and
take
your
name
and
if
you're
comfortable
your
address
for
the
public
record
and
then
secretary
Ringgold
will
put
three
minutes
up
on
the
clock
and
it's
ready.
M
To
go
hi,
my
name
is
Chris
Staley
at
1,
1
1
8
come
with
Park
quick
here
about
resolution,
2
0,
1,
8,
2,
8
6,
which
I
think
yeah
tonight.
One
of
my
questions
is
to
get
permission
to
have
a
sidewalk
my
front
door.
The
walkway
one
of
the
challenges
I
want
to
bring
to
the
sports
attention.
That
was
very
confusing
for
us
that
we
applied
for
a
permit
the
city
minneapolis.
No
one
told
us
Park,
Board,
there's
also
rules
that
say
you
can
have
a
sidewalk
from
your
front
door
to
the
walkway.
M
So
again,
the
confusion
here
is
something
I
want
to
call
the
board's
attention
more
as
a
homeowner
that
we
got
caught
in
the
mix-up
through
this
process
and
almost
felt
I
think
to
the
board
that
we
are
trying
to
step
around
it
where
it
was
more
confusion
on
our
part.
I'd
love
to
see
more
collaboration
with
the
city
to
say,
hey.
How
do
these
two
work
in
the
permitting
process?
Secondly,
we're
asking
for
use
of
a
retaining
wall.
It
was
there
before
same
thing.
M
The
third
one
we're
really
looking
for
is
to
be
able
to
complete
a
wall
on
the
front
sidewalk
I
know:
we've
had
people
talk
to
us
that
it's
about
aesthetics.
One
of
my
challenges
here
is
when
you
walk
down
to
the
parks
and
I
noticed
outside
you,
guys
have
won
awards
for
honor
awards
for
concrete
design
and
construction
I'm
using
Tom
Moslems
firm,
which
has
also
done
a
lot
of
other
places.
I
think
it's
a
great
use
of
land
to
make
it
more
pretty
for
the
homeowners.
M
A
N
N
One
thing
we
really
are
trying
to
do
here
is
trying
to
create
a
better
environment
and
better
design
on
the
inner
side
of
the
sidewalk
of
his
property
next
to
his
house,
and
we
think,
and
the
crease
have
the
floor
as
possibly,
and
he
understand
if
there
is
any
future
development
for
the
park
board,
he
will
take
the
responsibility
to
repair
it.
He'll
maintain
it
and
it's
just
like
literally
10
feet,
8.5
square
feet
of
retaining
wall,
and
we
think
it
will
improve
the
city.
N
So
really,
what
we
are
here
is
trying
to
ask
our
commissioners
here
and
take
a
look
at
the
application
material
we
have
and
it's
on
the
meeting
agenda
on
the
website.
We
have
about
20,
page
application
materials
with
all
the
supporting
graphics
and
the
measurement
and
calculations
so
hopefully
on.
The
commission
can
approves
our
requirement
and
do
a
better
environment
for
the
city,
for
the
park
board
and
for
the
homeowner.
Thank
you
thank.
A
L
Thank
you,
mister
board,
so
I
just
also
wanted
to
note,
since
we're
kind
of
breaking
into
the
more
detailed
discussion
on
the
funding
that
the
presentation
I
just
gave.
You
was
a
very
abbreviated
presentation
of
what
the
community
members
have
gotten
and
what's
online,
so
you
can
look
online
to
find
it.
But
again
we
can
always
do
the
more
detailed
discussion
at
a
different
point,
so
with
the
15
million
dollars
in
state
bond
funding.
Basically
this
joint
City
and
Park
Board
effort.
L
This
is
for
public
improvements
on
public
lands,
so
the
initial
phase
of
public
improvements
that
will
set
the
stage
and
allow
kind
of
the
rest
of
the
project
to
develop
so
very
generally,
and
some
of
these
are
still
being
determined.
But
we
know
that
it
will
likely
be
a
lot
of
work
along
dowling
to
help
improve
the
connection
to
the
project
and
then
the
initial
improvements
like
the
parkway
utilities,
stormwater
system,
initial
park
improvements
and
possibly
improvements
over
the
I-94
bridge,
since
that
is
a
very
important
connection
to
the
existing
neighborhoods.
L
So
the
way
that
the
state
funding
kind
of
works
is
that
the
city
and
the
Park
Board
each
get
a
portion,
and
these
have
been
roughly
divided
and
then
we
would
need
to
find
an
equal
match
in
local
funds
in
order
to
kind
of
realize
this
15
million
dollars
in
state
funds.
The
state
is
looking
for
basically,
a
30
million
dollar
state
bond
project,
15
from
the
state
15
from
the
local
funds,
and
there
are
some
additional
funds
that,
like
the
city,
for
example,
is
going
to
put
in.
L
But
these
are
not
eligible
to
be
part
of
the
state
bond
project.
They
are
just
things
that
need
to
be
done
on
the
site.
That
would
not
actually
be
a
portion
of
this.
So
when
we
talk
about
30
million
dollars
of
public
improvements,
it's
really
going
to
be
30
plus,
although
we
don't
know
exactly
what
that
number
is
so.
Some
of
the
requirements
with
the
state
bond
and
and
different
state
bonds
can
be
written
differently.
So
this
isn't
necessarily
universal
to
state
bonds.
L
So,
basically,
we
need
to
secure
six
million
dollars
in
matching
funds
for
this
state
bond.
So
for
tonight
we're
really
just
looking
for
a
discussion
among
you.
We
don't
need
a
decision,
we're
not
necessarily
looking
for
consensus
and
everything.
We
really
want
to
hear
your
thoughts
just
because
you
can
never
look
at
your
entire
funding
in
with
any
one
project
in
isolation.
It
will
impact
other
projects.
What
we
really
want
to
understand
is
kind
of
your
values.
L
Your
concerns
your
ideas
around
this
funding,
so
that
it
will
help
inform
how
the
capital
improvement
plan
comes
together
and
that
is
kind
of
ultimately,
the
vehicle
in
which
you
will
approve
how
you
know
we
meet
this
so
in
there's
a
lot
of
information
here,
but
it
can
kind
of
be
summarized
into
one
sort
of
key
point
or
question
for
discussion
which
I'll
get
to
right
at
the
end,
and
Adam
is
going
to
correct
me
if,
at
any
point,
I
see
any
that's
wrong.
So
when
we
look
at
potential
funding
sources,
you
know
a
funding.
L
Sources
wanted
to
are
basically
something
that
we
can
be
reasonably
confident
in.
At
this
point.
They
are
Capital
Improvement
funds
that
either
are
already
going
towards
the
above.
The
false
master
plan
implementation
or
can
be
dedicated
towards
above
the
falls,
and
these
would
be
within
the
time
of
we
would
when
we
would
be
looking
at
for
the
improvement.
L
So
we
know
basically
that
they
could
be
used
for
this
state
bond
project,
I'm
skipping
funding,
source
3
for
the
moment,
because
that's
the
one
we
have
a
question
about,
but
four
or
five
and
six
are
all
potential
places
where
we
see
we.
We
think
that
you
know
there's
the
potential
to
bring
these
funds
in
and
use
them
for
the
state
bond
match,
but
we
can't
be
sure
of
that
right
now
and
we're
not
sure
when
we
would
be
sure
of
these
funds.
L
So
these
are
kind
of
something
that
we
are
tracking,
but
it's
not
something
that
we
can
count
on
at
this
point,
so
funding
source
number
three
and
I
numbered
these,
because
they
were
a
number.
This
way
in
your
background,
packet
is
basically
the
one
that
we
really
have
a
question
about.
So,
as
you
know,
our
bonding
package,
just
for
Metroparks
in
general,
was
reduced
this
last
year
and
so
that
left
some
of
our
capital
improvement
projects
underfunded.
But
then
parks
and
trails
funding
came
in
slightly
higher
than
anticipated.
L
So
with
that,
we
could
go
back
and
make
those
existing
capital
improvement
projects
whole
and
essentially
kind
of
fulfill.
What
we
had
originally
intended
to
do
on
these
other
projects,
which
are
halls
Island,
the
gorge
and
Water
Works,
or
we
could
move
this
parks
and
trails
funding
into
the
upper
harbour
terminal
and
use
it
for
the
state
mountain
match.
L
If
we
don't
look
at
what's
going
to
go
back
for
just
second,
because
I
went
through
that
fast.
If
we
don't
look
at
funding
source
number
three-
and
you
know
you
feel
that
that
might
be
better
dedicated
elsewhere
and
we're
at
one
and
two.
Obviously
we
can
look
at
those
other
funding
sources
like
four
or
five
and
six
and
hope
that
they
come
in.
L
But
since
we
can't
know
that
right
now,
we
need
to
have
some
sort
of
a
fallback
position
and
that
fallback
position
is
that
the
city
would
be
willing
to
loan
us
the
money
to
meet
that
six
million
dollar
goal.
The
exact
terms
could
be
worked
out,
but
these
are
kind
of
some
of
the
key
ones
for
you
to
know,
which
is
basically,
they
would
be
looking
for.
L
We
don't
see
another
way
right
now
to
guarantee
this
loan,
so
this
gets
back
to
really
the
key
question
which
is
kind
of
as
funding
source
number
three:
the
additional
parks
and
trails
funding.
You
know
how
do
you
feel
about
dedicating
it
towards
the
upper
harbour
terminal
versus
kind
of
going
back
and
finishing
out
the
capital
improvement
commitments
that
were
made
on
these
other
projects
and
knowing
that
it
is
possible
that
we
would
have
to
take
a
loan
with
this
scenario.
A
G
You
thank
you
very
much,
president
Boren,
so
when
you
were
describing
the
park
spaces
to
us
Kate,
you
mentioned
that
there
is
a
point.
Eight
acre
area
that
may
be
utilized
as
a
neighborhood
park
for
future
residences
in
this
area.
Would
that
hard
space
be
identified
as
a
neighborhood
park
within
our
park
category
categorizations,
or
would
it
be
a
regional
park
in
in
its
entirety
the
entire
space.
L
Commissioner,
research,
the
possibility
of
a
neighborhood
park
sort
of
within
this
park
boundary
is,
is
definitely
a
possibility,
but
it's
we
haven't
gotten
to
that
level
of
detail
yet
so
it
was.
We
were
really
kind
of
noting
these
meaningful
park
spaces.
In
addition
to
the
linear
connections
and
kind
of
the
the
linear
amenities
would
be
serving
the
function
as
sort
of
the
nearest
neighborhood
park
space
for
any
residences.
That
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
they
would
have
the
character
of
a
lot
of
our
neighborhood
parks.
I.
L
Think,
if
that's
part
of
the
engagement
process,
that's
kind
of
that
next
layer
of
detail
that
we
need
to
get
to,
and
so
I
think,
depending
on
how
you
know
what
we
heard
we're
kind
of
the
highest
priorities
for
uses
in
there,
we
might
determine
you
know
the
best
way
to
allocate
that
land,
but
when
I
called
it
a
neighborhood
park.
I
didn't
mean
very
specifically
that
it
would
be
legally
part
of
the
neighborhood
park
system.
L
G
And
I
guess
the
reason
I
asked.
That
is
because
we
have
very
different
funding
sources
for
neighborhood
parks
than
we
do
for
regional
parks
and
I
was
wondering
if
there's
a
potential
for
at
some
point,
a
neighborhood
park
to
be
designated
in
this
space.
That
then,
would
be
able
to
pull
from
MPP
20,
for
instance,
or
that
type
of
funding.
O
K
L
So
if
we
were
to
take
so
if
we
were
to
use
source
of
funding
sources,
1
&
2
for
the
upper
harbour
terminal,
but
take
it
alone
to
kind
of
fill
the
gap
left
by
funding
source
number
3.
We're
probably
looking
at
a
two
to
two
and
a
half
million
dollar
loan
right
now,
and
that
that
does
not
necessarily
take
into
account
that
some
of
the
other
funding
sources
that
we
talked
about
could
potentially
reduce
that
low
and,
if
not
eliminated.
So,
but
with
funding.
K
O
President
Boren
Commissioner
kögel,
not
not
exactly
so
the
funding
source
3,
would
definitely
push
or
would
leave
projects
incomplete
that
were
under
bonded
funding.
Source
1
is
money
that
the
CIP
has
already
dedicated
to
above
the
falls
implementation,
so
it's
already
set
for
projects
like
this
and
would
go
toward
a
project
like
this
funding.
O
Number
2
is
in
a
further
out
here
where,
under
the
regional
equity
metrics,
we
dedicate
25%
of
the
total
regional
funding
to
some
combination
of
our
to
basically
unbuilt
regional
parks,
of
which
above
the
Falls,
is
one
in
last
year's
CIP
I
put
that
entire
25
percent
and
the
board
approved
the
entire
25
percent
to
go
toward
the
missing
link
because
it
has
not
had
funding
significantly
over
over
time.
What
option
to
would
do?
Is
it
would?
O
Instead,
as
you
approve
the
next
CIP,
it
would
allocate
that
funding
instead
to
above
the
falls
and
then
in
a
very
following
year.
We
would
then
go
to
missing
link,
so
there's
no
project
at
missing
link
right
now,
there's
a
lot
of
land
acquisition.
Presumably
that
needs
to
happen
there.
First,
so
I
think
that,
having
that
funding
come
in
2024
instead
of
2023
is
probably
not
a
realistic
project
delay,
it's
probably
just
kind
of
a
funding
mechanism.
O
K
You
okay,
I,
mean
I,
suppose
the
cliche
that
robbing
Peter
to
pay
Paul
is
may
be
due
for
funding
source
number
three
I
certainly
wouldn't
want
to
undercut
what
would
make
those
projects
in
in
that
funding
source
whole.
But
that's
my
thought
right
now,
I'm
curious
to
hear
what
other
commissioners
think
Thank.
O
O
So
essentially
what
we're
looking
for
right
now
is
kind
of
some
impression
and
guidance,
and
then
I'll
be
working
on
the
CIP,
with
staff
and
with
the
superintendent
and
we'll
be
presenting
a
draft
CIP
to
you
on
October
17th,
along
with
the
budget
and
there's
an
opportunity
for
additional
discussion
at
that
time,
which
is
why
tonight
we're
really
really
just
trying
to
get
an
impression
about
where
the
board
feels
like
it
wants
to
go.
But
you
would
make
that
final
decision
in
your
in
your
budgeting
adoption.
Basically,
okay,.
C
C
So
that's
that's
my
default
assumption
and
I
hope
that
we
don't
end
up
taking
money
away
from
other
areas
that
have
been
neglected,
including
you
know,
missing,
link
at
least,
and
you
know,
if
it's
just
temporary
delay
until
we
have
a
project
ready
there,
then
that
would
be
fine,
but
you
know
that's
an
area
that
doesn't
have
any
parts
for
part
of
it.
So
I
hope
we
can.
You
know,
keep
the
money
there
as
well
and
not
you
know,
invest
in
one
neglected
area
at
the
expense
of
others.
J
O
So
president
Boren
Commissioner
for
knee,
we
constructed
our
CIP
last
year
and
adopted
it
as
such,
with
the
assumption
of
a
15
million
dollar
state
bond
that
would
be
matched
by
met
counsel.
What
ultimately
came
in
is
a
10
million
dollar
state
bond.
It
was
matched
that
will
be
matched
by
met
counsel,
and
so,
in
order
to
address
that
ten
million
dollars,
we've
made
some
preliminary
staff
decisions
to
retain
funding
in
water
works
and
and
halls
Island,
and
to
actually
zero
out
the
planned
allocation
to
the
gorge.
J
So
just
a
blanket
statement:
I
don't
think
I
could
give,
but
as
far
as
waterworks
and
hauls
well,
first
of
all,
our
works
being
that
we're
partnering
I
feel
an
obligation
to
fulfill
that
and
not
draw
from
that.
I
guess:
that's
the
best
way
to
say
it
as
far
as
halls:
I'm,
not
sure
that
we
have
really
quote-unquote
obligations,
but
we
have
expectations
from
a
particularly
you
know:
community
we
might
have
obligations
but
anyway.
So
as
far
as
prioritizing
I
would
say
that
you
know.
J
J
L
With
for
parkland
land
for
free
to
fulfill
that
park,
dedications
obligation,
that
is
more
than
we
would
get
off
of
kind
of
the
10%
that
you
can
sometimes
take
with
park
dedications
and
so
in
doing
so,
then
we
would
waive
park
dedication
on
this
entire
site.
Having
sort
of
that
obligation
has
already
been
fulfilled,
so
that's
why
we
don't
see
it
as
a
source
of
revenue
before
this,
but
okay.
J
L
O
J
J
J
J
L
Forney,
we
have
definitely
been
talking
to
MW
mo
all
along
through
this
project,
and
you
know
they've
often
come
in
in
the
past
and
helped
with
shoreline
restoration,
for
example,
or
you
know,
storm
water
kind
of
water
related
improvements
at
this
point,
especially
without
any
kind
of
an
approved
concept
and
everything
you
know,
there's
they're
still
very
interested
in
the
process,
but
certainly
not
ready
to
make
any
kind
of
commitments
yet,
but
our
understanding
is
a
lot
of
the
things
that
they
might
fund.
They
would
certainly
be
a
potential
third-party
funder.
L
A
A
Think
what
I'm
asking
is
is
my
understanding
is
that
the
over
the
life
of
the
project
from
from
start
to
finish,
we
have
to
develop,
we
have
to
contribute
a
six
million
dollar
match,
am
I,
understand
and
I
understand
that
correctly.
So
how
long
do
we
have?
How
long
do
we
have
to
deliver
our
six
million
dollar
match?
Can
that
all
be
on
the
back
end
of
the
can
are?
Can
that
all
be
on
the
back
end
of
the
build-out.
L
So
maybe
so,
basically,
my
understanding
of
the
state
bond
is
that
here
at
some
point
fairly
soon,
and
we
are
looking
at
probably
around
the
end
of
the
year.
When
we
had
the
concept
a
little
bit
more
figured
out,
we
would
need
to
submit
an
application
for
the
state
bond,
that
kind
of
outlines
approximately
what
our
projects
are
gonna
be
and
what
the
funding
sources
are
going
to
be,
and
this
is
not
anything
that
cannot
change,
but
you
know
we
would
want
to
have
it
pretty
well
identified
by
that
point.
L
I
think
my
understanding
is
that,
once
we
are
looking
at
actually
trying
to
get
the
project
started,
there
is
about
a
five
year
timeline
where
you're
expected
to
have
it
completed,
and
so
there
isn't
an
exact
start
date,
so
we
can't
say
an
exact
end
date.
So
in
that
way
you
know
we
would
probably
put
it
at
around
five
five
plus
a
little
bit
years
to
spend
this
money.
Then
there's
also
the
question
of
needing
to
have
the
money
in
hand
at
the
time
that
you
go
out
to
bid.
L
So
there
may
be
a
certain
amount
of
gymnastics
that
we
would
have
to
do
in
order
to
have
a
secured
funding
source,
but
some
of
guaranteed
at
the
beginning
of
the
project.
But
some
of
the
funds
like,
for
example,
the
2023
funds
that
we
talked
about,
would
likely
come
off
after
we
are
thinking
about
bidding.
But
construction
is
going
to
take
a
fair
amount
of
time,
for
you
know,
30
plus
million
dollars
of
public
improvements,
and
so
those
funds
could
be
spent
directly
as
they
come
in.
A
That
answers
my
question
yeah.
If,
if
we
were
to
look
at
the
scenario
where
we
leveraged
debt,
either
from
the
city
or
from
a
different
source,
what
would
a
repayment
schedule
like
that?
Look
like
that
we
would
have
to
address
every
year
for
ten
years?
What
would
we,
what
would
a
annual
payment
on
a
debt
service
of
six
million
dollars?
Look
like
so.
L
I,
don't
think
that
we
have
that
detailed
of
information.
Basically,
the
city
has
said
that
they
would
want
a
loan
repaid
back
in
less
than
10
years.
So
since
we
are
likely
not
looking
at
a
six
million
dollar
loan,
but
you
know
say
more
like
a
two
or
two
and
a
half
million
dollar
loan,
potentially
I
think
we
could
have
quite
a
few
years
to
pay
that
off.
L
They
are
looking
to
set
up
a
regular
payment
schedule
schedule,
but
they
haven't
been
that
specific
about
it
and
basically
I
think
it
would
partly
be
up
to
us
to
because
we
would
be
incurring
interest
on.
You
know
how
rapidly
we
felt
like
we
wanted
to
to
spend
that
down,
but
basically,
within
10
years,
was
kind
of
where
the
preliminary
discussions
have
gone.
Oh.
B
President
borne
commissioners,
thank
you
for
that
question.
One
thing
to
note
and
as
kate
has
said,
I
don't
think
we
know
what
it
would
look
like
exactly
but
recognize
in
the
first
year
of
paying
that
back
say
we're
going
to
make
the
same
increment
amounts
over
several
years.
You
would
see
a
levy
increase
and
you'd
have
to
decide.
Are
you
going
to
cut
to
pay
for
that
out
of
the
levy,
or
are
you
gonna
add
to
the
levy?
And
you
know
just
the
kind
of
metrics
that
we
work
with
is
a
1%
levy.
B
A
You
deputy
super
deputy
superintendent
and
that
that
is
kind
of
a
you
may
have
anticipated
my
next
question.
That
I
was
asking
at
after
that,
but
I
do
I.
Just
my
comment
would
be
you
know.
Commissioner
Meyers
made
comments
about
this
and,
in
other
conversations
that
we
have
and
I
do
cautiously
agree
with
that
approach.
A
I
think
the
Minneapolis
Park
Board
under
leverages,
our
under
leverages
debt
and
I,
think
the
I
think
that
this
would
be
something
that
we
would
that
I
would
like
to
see
some
scenarios
to
at
least
have
those
options
on
the
table.
So
so
we
know
if
it's,
if
it's
a
minimal
debt
service
of
the
organization
can
handle,
as
opposed
to
not
delivering
on
the
promises
that
Commissioner
for
any
referenced.
I
think
that
that
would
be
something
that
this
board
would
want
to
consider.
J
L
Commissioner
for
knee,
so
any
private
development
is
likely
to
be
sold
through
a
redevelopment
agreement
to
you
know
the
developers,
so
yes,
I'm
private
property,
the
the
amphitheater
or
the
CPAC
as
we've
been
calling
it
it's
a
little
bit
more
complicated.
It's
kind
of
would
likely
be
a
joint
venture
and
with
the
city
and
with
the
developer,
but
the
park
board
would
not
be
involved
so
as
it
is
shown
right
now,
the
CPAC
is
not
on
park
board
land.
L
L
J
O
President
board
Commissioner
for
any
related
to
both
of
your
questions,
I
think
what
we'll
need
to
do.
Kate
Nuys,
is
really
have
our
finance
team.
Take
a
look
at
in
a
way
sort
of
a
theoretical
scenario
around
loan
repayment
and
then
also
ask
them
to
look
at
where
we
may
have
done
this
before
and
I.
Think.
That's
something!
That's
information
that
we
can
bring
to
you
as
we
continue
through
the
budgeting
process.
But
it's
it's
a
extra
level
of
exploration
that
we
need
to
do
that.
A
You
Thank
You,
commissioner
for
Nia
I,
think
the
council
race
wants
to
add
in
something
but
I.
Commissioner
Farnese
question
made
me
remember
the
last
question
that
I
had
I
you
had
mentioned
the
the
co
developers
are
looking
at
approach
going
into
a
bonding
request
in
2020.
That
would
be
sponsored
by
the
city
I'm
just
wondering
if
we
have
had
thought
about
strategy
around
that
so
that
so
this
year
we
had
Kinnaman
all
hands
on
deck,
shared
shared
legislative
agenda
to
make
the
upper
Harper
terminal
our
top
priority,
and
so
I
just
want
to.
A
If
we're
going
back
to
the
well
on
that
same
request,
and
if
that
will
be
a
similar
strategy
in
the
2020
session,
then
this
board
probably
needs
to
start
thinking
about.
Is
that
the
same
strategy
we
want
to
use
and
will
we
have
a
concert
of
interest
with
the
city
in
the
2020
session
accession?
Or
will
we
have
some
of
our
own
priorities
that
year
so
I?
I
I'll
be
real
brief.
First
I'd
like
to
compliment
Adam
and
Miss
Lamers
for
a
really
great
overview
of
this
project.
It's
very
intricate.
The
staffs
been
working
on
for
a
long
time.
I
think
it
really
is
important.
The
board
spend
it's
not
been
quite
an
hour
on
it
and
I'll
try
to
make
sure
I,
don't
extend
it
to
an
hour
by
my
comments,
but
the
board
should
know.
This
is
a
major
initiative
on
the
river.
The
city
owns
approximately
50
acres,
the
upper
harbor.
I
It's
been
repurposed,
it's
a
pretty
unique
opportunity
in
the
sense
of
the
city
as
and
the,
but
this
land
years
ago
had
been
used
for
different
purposes.
It's
a
great
opportunity.
This
was
something
that
actually
the
board
initiated
about
three
years
ago.
When
then,
superintendent
Miller
worked
with
council
president
barb
Johnson,
who
wanted
to
do
someone's
gonna,
get
it
through
the
city.
The
park
board
brought
it
forward.
I
I
The
park
board
I
think
said
it
would
partner
with
the
city,
which
meant
that
we
were
basically
saying
formally
and
informally,
that
we
would
come
up
with
6
million
was
kind
of
the
number
kicked
around
to
help
make
a
start
of
this,
as
you
saw
from
the
plans
and
community
engagement,
this
has
quite
the
potential
to
transform
the
riverfront.
We've
done
a
lot
on
brown,
this
area,
southern
in
putting
a
flag
in
the
ground
that
far
up
on
Dowling
Avenue
on
the
other
side
of
the
river,
could
really
be
quite
transformative
and
I.
I
Think
the
staff
coming
forward
tonight
while
satalia
it's
a
great
project,
but
it's
also
going
to
take
some
work
by
the
board
to
figure
out
your
priorities,
and
can
you
fit
it
in?
How
can
you
fit
it
in
the
just
over
strategies?
They've
brought
forward
I,
don't
think
you're
ultimately
going
to
be
able
to
do
this
on
the
cheap.
It's
going
to
take
some
money
and
you're
gonna
have
to
carve
it
out
in
this
for
this
board.
I
If
it
moves
ahead
on
the
schedule
they're
talking
about
and
the
First
Avenue
people,
Thor
construction
unit
properties
can
really
get
something
going.
This
could
well
be
a
big
signature,
part
of
what
this
board
does,
and
you
probably
haven't
heard
the
last
of
it
and
trying
to
find
six
million
dollars.
Is
we
that's
why
we
have
a
robust
strategy
with
the
legislature?
We've
worked
on
Park
dedication,
fiel
I,
just
a
lot
of
good
questions
about
exhausting
that
the
watershed
district
I
think
that
the
staff
has
done
a
real
good
job.
I
In
looking
at
it,
I
mean
the
watershed.
District
will
probably
pay
a
part
in
this,
but
you're
probably
gonna
have
to
start
looking
at
your
own
sources
to
get
it
done.
Park
dedication
fee,
since
the
city
owns
the
land
and
I
think
Kate
said
as
much
as
14
15
acres
out
of
50
acres
I
mean
the
Park
Board
is
looking
at
getting
30%
of
the
land
and
the
thing
that's
a
pretty
big
number,
and
then
you
have
to
maintain
and
other
strategies.
I
My
last
point
would
be
that
you
know
president
Boren
wouldn't
agree
to
describe
the
park
boards
firing
practices.
I'd
say
we
were
hard
money,
Democrats
and
the
Jacksonian
tradition
which
Jackson
didn't
hire.
Commissioner
Meyers,
a
history
fan
didn't
believe,
knew
Jackson,
didn't
believe
internal
improvements
and
borrowing
money,
but
the
piper
doesn't
have
a
Julie
Wiseman's
here,
she's,
probably
better
explaining
what
your
debt
situation
is.
But
generally
you,
the
park
part
hasn't
gone
too
deeply
in
debt
on
projects
looks
like
she
has
something
to
say
with
that.
I
P
P
Plus
you
have
recreation,
youth
programming
that
you
have
said
that
you
want
to
focus
on
and
I,
don't
know
what
kind
of
appetite
you
have
for
property
tax
levy
increases,
but
I
would
just
caution
you
insane
that
you
think
that
there's
what
was
the
term
I
did.
I
can't
remember
the
term
that
there's
room
for
debt
service,
leveraged
debt,
labyrinth
of
leverage.
Thank
you
and
to
give
you
examples
of
different
things
that
we
have
done
in
the
enterprise
fund.
P
We
financed
the
acquisition
or
not
acquisition,
but
we
financed
the
the
construction
of
the
Niemen
Sports
Complex
fourteen
point,
two
million
dollars
that
we
financed
over
a
20-year
period.
We
have
financed
the
parade
parking,
our
parade
ice
improvements
by
nine
point,
eight
million
dollars
that
are
financed
over
thirteen
year
period.
We
purchased
the
Northeast
Ice
Arena
took
on
the
debt
for
the
these.
Are
you
Serena,
seven
hundred
and
ten
thousand
dollars
over
a
15-year
period
when
we
purchased
the
headquarters?
Building.
I.
P
G
A
K
L
K
A
Are
there
any
further
questions
of
staff
or
comments,
miss
Slammers,
mr.
Burton,
thank
you
for
your
presentation
and
for
the
incredible
amount
of
work
that
you've
done
thus
far.
Do
you
have
the
direction
that
you
need
for
this
evening?
Okay,
thank
you.
Then
we
will.
We
will
move
on
to
petitions
and
communications
this
week,
I
will
start
with
Commissioner
Meyer
pass
mr.
Hodel.
K
Well,
I'll
first
say
that
I
went
to
my
first
BT
meeting
this
evening
to
see
Commissioner
born
in
the
spotlight.
There
was
great
we,
both
Commissioner,
French
and
I,
spoke
in
support
of
the
5.7
percent
levy.
Request
want
to
thank
superintendent,
Merrill,
director
Gees
of
Julia
Wiseman
for
their
presentation.
I
think
it
went
very
well
and
very
hopeful
for
the
for
the
leather
levy
request.
So
that
was
a
lot
of
fun
and
I.
Look
forward
to
the
bike
tour
on
Sunday
Thank.
Q
First
of
all,
I
went
to
my
first
monarch
festival.
It
was
awesome.
It
was
tons
of
folks
out
there.
I
had
some
good
food
and
talked
to
a
bunch
of
folks
from
from
the
neighborhood
and
people
who
are
really
concerned
about
the
plight
of
butterflies
and
now
I'm
concerned
about
the
plight
of
butterflies.
I
also
want
to
thank
mayor,
Jacob
Frye,
who
is
becoming
a
partner
in
our
full
service,
Community
School
efforts
and
our
initiative
to
create
spaces
for
folks
to
go
no
matter
what
time
of
day
it
is
and
what
they
need
to
do.
Q
Our
schools
and
our
parks
could
work
in
so
many
different,
diverse
ways.
So
thanks,
Thank,
You,
Jacob
fryi.
Thank
you,
the
rest
of
the
BT
that
with
John
John
within
it,
and
it
was
watching
our
government
work
in
different
ways
and
sometimes
obscure
ways
that
people
don't
really
always
know
about.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
be
a
part.
Commissioner
appreciate
it.
Thank.
J
J
This
I
mean
it
is
something
we've
been
talking
about
and
I
was
on
the
original
above
the
falls
citizen
advisory
committee,
and
it's
been
something
that's
been
talked
about
for
a
couple
decades
now
so
I'm
very
happy
to
see
that
we're
at
the
point
of
dollars
and
cents
the
modern
festival.
Yes,
it's
just
magical,
it
really
is,
but
an
absolutely
gorgeous
day
that
Mother
Nature
gave
us
as
well
so
kudos
to
our
district
Commissioner.
J
For
continuing
to
advocate
for
that,
I
went
to
the
echo
board
meeting
with
Commissioner,
kokal
and
and
then
I
also
went
to
the
West
Calhoun
neighborhood
council
meeting
and
both
I
think
really
wanted
to
hear
our
input.
As
far
as
the
2040
plan,
and
particularly
our
approach
to
the
shoreland
overlay,
I,
think
that
both
of
those
communities
are
very
concerned
about
the
erosion
literally
figuratively
and
our
shoreline,
so
I
was
trying
to
get
them
assurances
that
we
will
be
advocating
on
behalf
of
that.
J
So
very
happy
that
was
a
lovely
just
win-win
delightful
group
of
people
to
work
with
I
went
to
the
Sun
shot,
a
sunrise
breakfast
with
the
Minneapolis
Foundation,
and
what
was
very,
it
was
a
very
inspiring
speaker
who
talked
about
building
trust
in
our
community,
so
I
hope
that
I
can
spread.
The
word
on
those
things.
I
went
to
the
EMW
and
all
had
a
stormwater
management
watershed
workshop
for
elected
officials.
J
What
was
really
fun
is
that
we
then
took
a
walk
around
this
tower
side
area
and
to
see
the
memorandum
that
we
pass
and
what
that
is
really
going
to
look
like
they've
done.
Some
marvelous
work,
the
development
that's
going
on
there
and
I'm
excited
to
see
a
parietal
veil
trio
going
through
that
and,
lastly,
just
wanted
to
mention
that
the
Saturday
there's
no,
the
following
Saturday
there's
gonna
be
a
violence-free
event
on
it:
Thomas
Beach
from
nine
to
ten
and
so
I'd
encourage
people
to
to
go
to
that.
J
D
G
You
president
Boren
I,
too
attended
the
monarch
festival
this
past
weekend
with
my
husband,
my
son,
for
the
first
year
since
we've
lived
on
the
south
side,
wasn't
able
to
go
with
us
as
he
was
working,
but
it
was
beautiful
to
see
so
many
families
and
neighborhood
residents
and
just
people
from
all
over
the
city
celebrating
this
beautiful
migration
of
butterflies
from
Mexico
to
Canada
passing
through
Minneapolis.
It's
a
pretty
awesome
thing
to
get
to
witness.
G
I
also
just
wanted
to
take
a
moment
to
thank
all
the
staff
and
volunteers
that
took
time
out
of
their
lives
to
make
sure
that
this
was
as
awesome
as
it
always
is,
and
and
made
sure
that,
even
though
it's
gotten
bigger
and
bigger
and
bigger,
you
still
got
that
small-town
feel
of
getting
a
chance
to
run
into
people.
You
don't
get
to
see
at
other
times
of
the
year.
A
You
commissioner,
music
I
will
three
brief
moments
ago.
I
signed
the
executed,
the
donation
agreement
with
the
low
pet
for
the
trail
head
building.
The
I
want
to
thank
mr.
Munger
for
how
quickly
and
diligently
he
cleaned
up
the
lien
issues
with
the
building
once
the
park
board
expressed
its
concern,
I
think
that
was
done
by
Monday
in
the
a.m.
so
we're
glad
that
the
agreement
can
get
back
on
track.
A
There
was
a
over.
There
was
an
oversight,
one
more
oversight
with
construction
around
the
use
of
labor
with
the
agreement
and
use
the
use
of
organized
labor
with
the
agreement.
Mr.
Munger
very
proactively,
reached
out
to
the
Building
Trades
Building
Trades
Council,
to
see
how
that
could
be
reconciled
and
the
Building
Trades
Council
had
reported
back
that
they
had
come
to
an
agreement
with
mr.
Munger
on
some
future
work.
So
we're
very
glad
to
have
our
partners
ready
to
go
and
moving
on.
I
want
to
thank
I.
Give
a
special
thanks.
A
I
want
to
give
a
real
special
thanks
to
our
finance,
our
finance
staff,
especially
director
Wiseman
superintendent
mayoral,
for
just
really
knocking
their
presentation
at
the
BT
out
of
the
park.
It
was
we
had
probably
about
a
dozen
community
members
show
up
in
support
for
a
BT,
Levy
public
public
hearing
every
single
person.
There
was
not
a
single
person
that
commented
on
anything
other
than
the
Minneapolis
Park
and
Recreation
Board
levy
and
100%
of
the
commenters
were
in
support
of
the
Minneapolis
Park
Board
levy.
A
This
will
be
my
ninth
budget
cycle
that
I've
gone
through
virtually
I
struggle
to
remember
a
budget
cycle
that
I've
went
through
during
that.
My
time
on
the
board,
where
we
haven't
started
with
what
do
we
have
to
give
up
this
year,
and
so
I
really
want
to
thank
the
mayor,
the
one
of
the
very
first
conversations
that
superintendent,
Merrill
and
I
had
with
the
mayor.
He
said
what
do
you?
What
do
you
need
for
current
service
level?
We
set
a
number,
and
he
said
without
question.
A
I
will
support
that,
and
so
this
board
has
really
demonstrated
a
really
great
victory.
Moving
in
on
signaling
some
continued
cooperation
with
the
city
of
Minneapolis.
So
thank
you
to
my
colleagues
there
and
again
thank
you
to
commissioners,
kögel
and
French
for
also
coming
to
the
BT
and
testifying
in
favor
of
the
levee.
A
K
F
K
B
Thank
You,
chair
Co
guild
commissioners
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
share
with
you
some
information
tonight
on
topless
bike
share.
You've
started
to
see
I'm
certain
line
bikes
in
and
around
the
city.
You
and
you
likely
know
that
some
of
our
neighboring
cities
have
introduced.
Lime
in
Minneapolis
will
soon
introduce
a
topless
bike
share
program
as
well.
We
are
very
fortunate
in
Minneapolis
to
have
some
really
great
thinkers
on
this
topic.
Robin
Hutchinson,
Hutchinson
from
Public
Works
at
the
city
of
Minneapolis,
has
been
fantastic.
B
Build
asset
with
nice.
Ride
has
been
a
really
phenomenal
thinker
on
this
topic.
My
understanding
is
that
people
across
the
country
who
are
part
of
bike
share
are
watching
curiously,
to
see
how
things
will
go
in
Minneapolis
in
kind
of
the
programs
that
are
being
rolled
out,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
everyone
is
up
to
speed
and
has
a
sense
of
where
I
think
I
think
we're
going
and
has
an
opportunity
to
weigh
in.
If
you
feel
like,
we
should
go
a
different
way.
B
I
anticipate
shortly
that
you
will
be
asked
to
approve
a
permit
or
a
lease
agreement.
So
I
want
to
get
you
prepped,
for
that,
so
shared
active
transportation
is
kind
of
a
big
name
that
a
lot
of
these
shared
transportation
modes
are
are
recognized
under.
We
have
had
the
nice
ride
system,
which
is
a
docked
bike
system
for
quite
a
while.
We
started
to
see
scooters
pop
up
into
our
right
aways
as
well,
and
initially
a
lot
of
this
work
was
very
structured
around
a
non-profit
and
public
entities
working
together
to
make
this
this
happen.
B
That's
what
happened
here
locally.
We
actually
had
a
federal
grant
and
a
nonprofit
in
the
city
as
the
conduit
that
helped
bring
us
our
nice
ride
program.
More
recently,
as
a
the
beginning
of
last
year,
you
started
to
see
that
model
change
a
little
bit
and
you
started
to
see
the
ability
for
or
bikes
to
be
in
the
public
right
away
without
the
doc,
with
as
simple
as
you
can
see
in
the
corner
here
lock
on
the
back
wheel,
that
could
be
unlocked
using
an
app
function.
B
This
was
primarily
started
to
be
driven
by
for-profit
organizations
who
are
able
to
dump
significant
levels
of
bikes
with
into
a
community.
In
a
short
time
period
and
commonly
the
local
agencies
were
short,
circuited
are
not
engaged
in
the
actual
process
of
how
those
things
would
roll
out
and
that
has
been
come,
become
kind
of
the
dhoklas
technology
that
we
are
seeing.
There's
been
mixed
success
with
the
approaches
that
people
have
taken.
B
So,
as
I
have
indicated,
Minneapolis
took
an
approach
where
they
establish
an
ordinance
where
you
have
to
be
a
licensed
provider
within
the
city
of
Minneapolis
to
have
dhoklas
bike
share
within
there
right
away.
They
have
provided
a
license
to
nice
ride,
/
motivate
so
there's
a
combination.
There
motivate
is
a
for-profit
company.
He
provides
the
dhoklas
option.
This
was
a
an
RFP
that
actually
nice
ride
issued
to
be
able
to
secure
who
they
would
move
forward
with
and
we're
anticipating
a
rollout
starting
next
week.
B
This
will
be
a
short
time
period,
they'll
roll
out
starting
next
week.
They
might
get
up
to
fifteen
hundred
bikes
total
and
by
early
November
they
will
be
closing
down
the
system
for
the
year,
st.
Paul
conducted
their
own
RFP
and
they
selected
blind
bike
and
they
started
rolling
out
in
August,
and
we
know
our
neighboring
cities
to
the
other
side,
the
diner
in
Golden
Valley.
They
are
in
a
situation
where
they
have
an
MOU
they're
doing
a
pilot
project.
They
haven't
formed
at
this
point,
a
long
term
relationship
that
I
know
of.
B
When
it
comes
to
thinking
about
this
program,
there's
many
aspects
to
think
about
it,
but
part
of
it
is
what
might
be
the
fees
or
pricing
that
you
would
associate
with
these
bikes
being
in
either
public
spaces
are
public
right
away
as
a
park
system.
We
don't
actually,
as
the
Minneapolis
Park
System,
we
don't
actually
have
right
away.
So
our
Park
boys
are
not
right
away.
There
are
actually
assets
within
parks,
so
we
don't
fit
under
some
of
the
right
away
conversations.
B
We
are
specifically
parkland,
and
so
we
don't,
we
don't
get
covered
per
se
in
the
city's
ordinance
on
that.
But
in
that
context
we
will
have
some
things
to
think
about
in
terms
of
the
types
of
fees
that
we
would
charge
in
terms
of
is
their
transaction
fee?
Is
there
a
fee
that
would
be
more
along
the
lines
of
a
ground
lease
for
where
the
sites
are
where
you
can
park
the
bikes?
B
B
What
we
would
articulate
is
that
there
would
be
a
requirement
in
that
person
that
permit
that
you
would
be
within
the
city
of
Minneapolis
that
builds
on
the
benefits
that
we're,
seeing
that
nice
ride,
slash,
motivate,
are
able
to
provide
to
the
city
as
a
whole,
and
some
of
those
things
are
that,
based
on
the
agreement
that
nice
ride
and
motor
they
have
with
the
city,
they
have
to
do
equitable
distribution
of
the
bikes.
They
can't
just
do
a
market.
You
know
share
movement
of
the
bikes.
B
The
other
big
thing
that's
happened
in
this
agreement
is
that
there
is
still
a
significant
amount
of
docked
infrastructure
that
has
not
reached
the
end
of
its
useful
life
that
was
paid
for
through
federal
grants
and
in
this
work,
with
the
with
the
city
of
Minneapolis
and
and
the
nice
ride,
motivate
combination.
They
are
taking
on
the
infrastructure
and
continuing
to
run
it
to
the
end
of
its
useful
life.
So
we
were
able
to
get
the
benefit
of
that
that
full
that
infrastructure
for
its
full
life.
B
We
are
working
on
in
this
permit
establishing
some
categories
for
fees
as
well
as
what
would
be
a
penalty
if
bikes
were
left
and
on
designated
locations.
What
we
would,
what
we're
working
toward
is
something
that
would
be
an
annual
license
fee.
This
would
cover
the
administrative
costs
associated
with
reviewing
the
sites
where
the
bikes
are
able
to
be
parked
through
with
reviewing
the
materials
associated
with
the
actual
permit
process,
and
what
I
should
say
before.
I,
go
a
little
bit
further
on
this,
because
it'll
make
more
sense
when
I
get
to
the
last
one.
B
Is
we
also
suggest,
in
the
same
way
that
the
city
is
is
moving
forward?
Is
that
you
actually
have
virtual
stations?
You
don't
have
the
ability
for
the
bikes
to
be
parked
just
anywhere
that
they
actually
are
parked
in
a
location
that
is
delineated
with
a
line
and
a
set
of
indicators
that
show
you
how
to
park
that
bike
within
that
location
that
you
would
be
able
to
locate
on
an
app.
This
is
maybe
not
something
that
would
be
forever.
B
Maybe
that
would
be
a
short
time
time
period
to
get
a
sense
of
how
this
works,
but
in
the
near
term
that
there
would
actually
be
designated
parking
areas,
so
that'll
makes
it
a
little
bit
more
sense
when
we
get
to
that
to
the
last
one
there.
Now
we
also
in
addition
to
that
license
fee,
are
considering
a
transaction
fee
percentage.
B
So
those
are
the
the
three
types
of
fees
the
the
one
penalty
that
we'd
be
looking
at
is
if
the
bike
was
not
parked
within
a
designated
area
or
if
your
bike
was
not
from
a
company
who
we
had
permitted,
we
would
charge
that
company
$100
per
bike
that
wasn't
removed
promptly
from
the
system
or
was
itwas.
You
know
essentially
abandoned
within
the
minneapolis
park
system,
and
then
we
would
take
it
to
the
impound
lot
so
next
step.
We
anticipate
that
nice
ride.
B
/
motivate
will
come
to
us,
yet
this
year
might
be
on
your
October
3rd
agenda.
To
ask
for
virtual
stations
that
would
add
on
to
some
of
the
existing
stations
that
we
have
within
the
system,
so
they
would
be
right
adjacent
to
the
doct
stations
we
anticipate
for
2019,
so
this
would
be
kind
of
over
the
winter
that
this
work
with
what
happened
that
they
would
be
asking
for
docked
stations
that
are
out
that
her
dock
less
station.
B
Excuse
me
throughout
the
whole
system,
with
potentially
being
at
least
one
per
park
throughout
the
throughout
the
whole
system,
with
our
regional
parks.
Certainly
they
be
busting
more
than
one,
and
that
would
be
another
request
that
we'd
bring
back
to
you
probably
early
in
the
late
in
the
winter
early
in
the
spring
of
next.
So
with
that,
I
would
love
to
get
your
thoughts
and
would
love
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have
and
in
particular,
if
you
don't
think
this
is
the
right
direction.
G
You,
chair
cowbell,
I'm,
very
glad
that
we
are
being
so
thoughtful
here
in
Minneapolis
about
the
way
that
these
dhoklas
bike
stations
are
getting
rolled
out.
I've
been
in
other
cities
that
that
didn't
happen,
and
it's
quite
clear
so
I'm
pleased
to
see
that
we
are
being
thoughtful
about
it
and
putting
a
plan
in
place
and
talking
about
talking
about
it
to
a
level
that
we're
getting
to
even
into
the
fees
and
I
appreciate
the
direction
we're
going.
G
I
don't
have
any
suggestions
at
this
time
for
changes,
but
I
would
ask
that
we
start
talking
about
the
scooters
that
are
all
over
town.
I
work
downtown.
It's
a
hot
mess.
People
are
leaving
them
blocking
entrances
blocking
sidewalks.
Yes,
there's
the
downtown
Improvement
District
that
can
deal
with
that.
But
it's
going
to
be
a
problem
in
parks
as
well,
particularly
around
80a
issues.
I
have
the
ability
to
move
things
when
they're
blocking
my
way.
Not
everyone
has
that,
and
these
companies
clearly
don't
really
care
that
that's
what's
happening.
G
B
Q
School
is
about
any
other
type
of
transportation
devices
that
may
come
up
in
the
future
and
and
how
we
can
be
as
a
park
or
more
accommodating
right,
because
if
these
technologies
are
gonna,
keep
keep
coming
and
keeping
this
and
let's,
let's
figure
out
a
way
for
us
to
kind
of,
have
some
type
of
test
test
program
for
these.
For
these
programs
that
are
existent.
So
we
can
be
proactive,
likes,
commissioning
usage
that
so
Thank.
C
B
C
One
thing
I'm
concerned
about
is
this
kind
of
patchwork
of
different
regulations
that
different
cities
have
I,
think
that
won't
be
discouraging
to
companies
and
confusing
for
users.
Have
you
been
working
with
other
cities
and
maybe
there's
a
way
we
could
get
it
in
one
United
policy
for
the
whole
metro,
yeah.
B
Jericho
wheel,
commissioner
Mayer
I'm
glad
you
bring
that
up.
You
know
this
conversation
started
about
this
time
last
year
and
there
was
been
a
kind
of
an
urgent
scramble
to
figure
out
kind
of
the
right
way
to
approach
it
and
then
that
process.
One
of
the
things
we
consider
is
like
a
joint
powers
agreement
between
multiple
cities
or
jurisdictions,
where
we
could
collectively
go
forward
and
determine
who
the
provider
would
be
within
within
the
region.
B
We
anticipate
restarting
that
conversation
and,
in
fact,
what
I,
what
Robin
public
works
has
already
initiated
a
week
visit,
not
a
weekly
but
a
monthly
meeting
with
st.
Paul,
the
U
of
M,
the
city
of
Minneapolis
and
the
Minneapolis
Park
Board.
So
we
can
start
talking
about.
What's
the
next?
What's
the
next
phase
of
this
another
one
of
her
staff
coordinates
a
regular
meeting
that
pulls
in
the
the
other
first
ring
suburbs
as
well.
So
there's
some
mechanisms
in
place
I
think
folks
want
to
think
through
what
the
long
term
strategy
is.
B
C
So
I
guess
my
thought
on
that
is:
let's
not
sign
any
long-term
agreements
that
would
prevent
us
from
I.
Don't
know
changing
in
the
near
future
to
adapt
to
a
metro,
wide
policy
if
we
could
come
up
with
one
and
a
more
broadly
speaking,
excited
about
these
new
share
programs.
I
think
they're,
bringing
bikes
and
scooters
to
people
who
never
use
them
before.
I
want
to
encourage
that.
However,
we
can
I
think
there
are
some
reasonable
things
that
we
can
ask
for,
but
I'm.
C
A
You,
chair
Cole
Gill,
the
I
just
wanted
to
thank
deputy
superintendent
Ringgold.
This
has
been
an
issue
that
she
has
been
on.
I
think
this
is
one
of
our
very
first
conversations
at
the
beginning
of
this
year
and
just
kind
of
letting
us
all
know
that
this
is
on
the
horizon
and
it's
coming
and
to
actually
have
so
often
we
react
and
we're
not
as
proactive
and
I
see
that
we're
in
the
steps
of
a
proactive
approach.
A
The
and
thanks
to
Commissioner
Meyer
I
wrote
my
first
bike
share.
Yeah
the
other
day
on
a
short
trip
with
him.
The
I
did.
I
did
have
some
questions
about
about
the
fee
structure.
To
that
I
get
I,
get
a
little
bit
nervous
about
a
fee
transaction
going
into
going
into
parks,
but
on
a
few
levels.
I
think
it
might
be
proved
extremely
onerous
to
audit
and
I
think
the
and
I
would
also
be
a
little
bit
nervous,
I,
I
I.
A
Those
tires
are
going
to
be
spinning
a
lot
and
the
many
on
Minneapolis
Park
Board
trails,
and
maybe
that's
a
way
that
just
kind
of
structure
it
that
would
be
easier
on
our
end
you're
only
looking
at
one
number,
you
have
X
bikes,
it's
it's
X
dollars
and,
and
then
that
is
passed
on
then
there's
not
a
separation
on
a
customer's
transaction.
Then
so
you
can
say,
I
pay
this
much
to
get
this
and
I
can
write
it
wherever
I
want
and
inclusion
in
the
park
board.
It's
just
part
of
that.
B
Sound
like
a
toll
or
something
that
can
be
applied
for
usage
and
that's
not
the
intent.
It
would
be
more
of
on
a
monthly
basis
asking
for
records
of
how
much
revenue
was
generated
from
stations
within
the
Minneapolis
Park
System,
not
by
biking
through
it
and
then,
as
we
would
with
any
concessionaire
within
our
system,
asking
for
a
percentage
of
revenue,
so
I
want
to
make
and
I
recognize
that
that
still
could
go
on
to
be
passed
to
the
customers,
but
I
think
any
fee
that
we
have
could
frankly
be
passed
on
to
the
customer.
B
We
have
been
comparing
this
idea
to
a
flat
fee
to
the
fleet
or
a
portion
of
the
fleet,
so
we'll
continue
to
have
have
those
discussions.
You
know
this
is
new.
We
don't
even
know
what
the
technology
will
fully
allow
us
to
do
yet
that'll
be
a
more
detailed
conversation
with
with
the
permit
team,
but
but
we'll
look
and-
and
you
look
at
that
as
well.
Ok,
thank.
J
Thank
you
for
the
presentation.
Jennifer
I
get
so
many
things
right
now
over,
probably
where
I
think
a
lot
of
people
referred
to
a
lot
of
the
communities
have
done
this.
Do
you
know
if
anything
statewide
has
ever
been
done
as
far
as
regulating.
B
Commissioner
call
Gil
or
Jericho
Vale,
Commissioner,
Courtney
I,
don't
know
for
sure,
but
my
understanding
is
this
is
what
we
are
seeing
happen
in.
Our
region
might
be
some
of
the
first
time
to
have
done
something
to
this
to
this
scale,
to
try
to
establish
a
license
and
regulate
how
this
enters
into
the
system.
B
It's
now,
the
other
day
we
sat
down
with
motivate
and
Lyman
actually
had
a
conversation
of
how
they
will
not
not
lie,
motivate
and
nice
right
and
how
they
would
like
to
potentially
roll
this
out
in
their
system
versus
the
night
before
dropping
up
and
coming
the
next
day
and
saying:
hey,
you've
got
500,
bikes
and
joy.
So
this
is.
This
is
kind
of
brown,
great
breaking
work
that
we're
doing
but
doesn't
mean
that
there
might
not
be
something
that
would
evolve
to
a
regional
or
a
state
level
in
the
future.
Yeah.
J
I
guess
that's
where
my
mind
is
going.
We
first
of
all,
we
are
so
unique
in
the
sense
that
we
have
a
separate
perk
system
and
we're
Dyna
and
st.
Paul,
whatever
they're
it's
within
the
city's
governance
and
everything,
and
so
how
unique
you
know.
How
do
we
play
and
set
so
I
appreciate
that
we're
looking
for
a
collaborative
effort
here?
Do
you
know
a
Three
Rivers
has
been
invited
to
be
a
part
of
that.
B
Jericho
Gail
Commissioner,
Forney
I
do
know
that
Three
Rivers
has
been
approached
by
different.
Come
wanting
to
play.
Spikes
within
our
system,
I
know
that
they
have
been
at
some
of
the
meetings
that
we
have
to
have
the
you
know.
First,
second
ring
suburbs
engaged,
but
we're
not
to
the
point
of
having
that
conversation
of
a
joint
powers
agreement
with
them.
At
this
point
and.
J
I
guess
I
see
that
potentially
that's
where
I
would
direct.
You
know
these
groups
to
go
and
and
and
I'm
feeling
that
you
know
something
like
this
might
be
ending
up
with
the
state
and
whether
or
not
it's
under
transportation,
for
whether
it's
under
recreation
I
think
could
be
a
fascinating
thing
and
that
I
would
hope
that
these
companies,
somehow
possibly
could
even
document.
You
know
how
much
usage
is
recreation.
How
much
usage
is
transportation
because
there
could
be
some
funding
sources
in
there
to
make
it
I
love
it.
J
B
Well,
perhaps
one
piece
of
information
that
would
be
interesting
to
the
board
is
that
this
is
moving
rapidly
and
you
know
even
now,
motivate
has
been
bought
by
lifts.
So
what
you're
seeing
is
that
the
major
kind
of
alternative
car
transportation
providers
are
buying
these
buying
both
the
scooters,
as
well
as
the
bike
programs
and
putting
them
all
under
one
umbrella,
so
both
the
lyft
and
uber
are
actively
purchasing
them.
So
this
is
true
definitely
coming
under
that
shared
transportation,
umbrella
and.
J
B
Know
yes,
I'm
looking
to
see
if
Jeremy
isn't,
but
I
might
need
to
call
other,
depending
on
how
well
I
answer
your
question
charcoal
Gayle,
Commissioner
corny,
so
the
policy
we
rely
on
in
terms
of
articulating
that
this
enterprise
can't
happen
within
the
Minneapolis
Park
System,
without
a
permit
without
our
policy
is
that
you
are
not
allowed
to
abandon
objects
within
the
minneapolis
park
system.
If
you
are,
we
retrieve
them
and
we
either
try
to
reunite
the
owner
with
them,
or
we
eventually
impound
them,
and
you
would
have
to
get
them
from
the
impound
lot.
B
So
the
the
primary
piece
here,
whether
its
private
or
enterprise,
we
will
pick
them
up.
We
will
eventually
impound
them
and
you
will
need
to
retrieve
it
either
directly
from
us
or
from
from
an
impound
scenario,
and
that
is
what
we
would
be
looking
at
in
the
case
of
the
bikes
that
aren't
either
parked
in
the
correct
location
or
we
don't
have
that
the
company
doesn't
have
a
permit
with
us
and.
J
I
Just
a
quick
point:
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
money
involved
in
this
stuff,
a
lot
of
people
have
come
in
and
they're
gonna
start
monetizing.
This
operation
for
profit,
there's
been
a
lot
of
venture
capital
and
dustman
put
in
it.
I
think
the
question
was
asked
about
thinking
about
statewide
I,
think
it's
likely.
These
entities
are
probably
going
to
legislature
next
year
and
say:
prohibit
local
governments
from
regulating
activity
and
just
say
left
market
aside
free
market
here
are
the
bikes
and
write
them
around
and
do
what
they
want
and
take
government
regulation.
K
Prediction:
Thank
You
council
rice
with
that
I
suppose
I
have
a
question
for
counsel
myself,
so
regarding
conflict
of
interest,
so
I
am
for
two
more
days
employed
at
a
company
that
is
a
consultant
on
this
project
and
I'm
wondering
if
I,
though
I
have
no
involvement.
If
I
can
comment
on
my
thoughts
or
not.
I
K
No
I,
don't
think
you
have
a
copy.
Thank
you
so
appreciate
everybody's
comments.
I
would
just
wanted
to
say
a
couple
of
things.
I
would
encourage
the
thought
of
the
station
by
station
feet,
I
mean
if,
if
they're
going
to
be
a
substantial
number
of
stations,
Dhokla
stations
that
are
taking
out
space
in
our
park
system
and-
and
they
may
be-
you
know-
proposed
for
every
single
Park-
that's
a
that's
a
lot
of
land.
You
might
see
the
stage
endless
stations
already
kind
of
being
demarcate
'add
on
city
streets.
K
Next,
to
current
nice
ride
dock
stations,
it's
not
a
lot
of
space,
but
it's
something
and
I
think
that
the
park
board
should
be
remunerate
for
that.
You
know
we're
looking
at
what
is
it
next
year,
1,500
bikes,
the
other
concern
just
generally
I
agree
with
Commissioner
Myer
that
we
should
be
encouraging
shared
mobility
options
for
getting
around
the
city,
especially
looking
at
the
city's
goals
for
reducing
carbon
emissions
and
reducing
number
of
car
trips.
K
These
are
all
options
for
helping
us
reach
that
goal,
but
I
am
aware
of
the
concern
that
has
happened
in
other
cities
where
one
of
these
venture
capital
firms
comes
in
with
their
new
bike
company.
They
run
the
non
profit
or
original
service
out
of
business,
and
then
they
go
bankrupt
and
they
pick
up
all
the
bikes
and
throw
them
in
a
landfill.
K
Q
B
Chair
Coquille,
Commissioner,
French
I,
don't
know
for
sure.
It's
all
just
I'll
just
say
that.
But
what
we'd
have
to
understand
is
that
there's
a
there's,
a
portion
of
the
revenue,
that's
sustaining
this
company
moving
forward
that
comes
from
the
transaction
for
each
use
and
then
there's
all
of
the
advertisement
and
the
information
that
you
have
in
the
app
that
they're
able
to
then
benefit
from
sponsors
or
other
connections
with
other
for-profit
adventures.
B
So
I'm,
not
certain
how
that
business
model
works,
but
you'd
have
to
not
only
have
the
folks
who
can
recalibrate
the
bikes
and
and
manage
that
part
of
it.
But
you'd
also
have
to
have
someone
who
has
that
business
enterprise
who
is
going
out
and
searching
for
those
the
revenue
coming
from
that
that
found
revenue
source
as
well.
K
B
Colio,
thank
you
for
the
question
we
have.
We
have
been
thinking
about
that,
and
certainly
the
city
of
Minneapolis
in
general
has
been
has
been
thinking
about
that
know.
We
would
be
establishing
that
we
have
a
permit
process
for
a
topless
bike
share
company
to
be
entering
the
system,
and
if
we
indicate
that
they
have
to
have
a
license
to
operate
in
the
city
of
Minneapolis,
it
would
effectively
ensure
that
the
folks
who
were
operating
in
the
Minneapolis
Park
System
were
also
licensed
in
the
city
of
Minneapolis.
B
So
then
we
would
be
actively
looking
for
ways
to
remove
bikes
that
were
not
picked
up.
So
if
another
company
has
a
bike
that
gets
that
terminates
within
the
Minneapolis
Park
System,
they
will
likely
come
pick
it
up
because
they
can't
actually
start
another
trip
from
that
area.
If
they
don't,
then
we
would
be
picking
up
those
bikes
charging
them
a
fee
for
returning
it.
Thank.
K
F
F
F
F
J
J
R
This
encroachment
application
encryption
permit
application.
You
are
heard
from
two
persons
I
think
during
open
time
regarding
this
encroachment
perfect
permit
application,
the
three
elements
that
are
regard
of
a
referenced
in
the
permit
application
or
the
sidewalk,
the
service
sidewalk,
the
stump
dry,
stone,
retaining
wall
and
then
also
the
concrete
wall
in
front
of
the
property.
So
there
a
number
of
pages
in
the
addendum
I'm,
not
sure
if
everyone's
had
a
chance
to
take
a
look
at
those.
R
R
R
So
this
PDF
does
some
of
the
pages
shrinking,
also
and
then
also
enlarge.
So
I
was
trying
to
explain
that,
but
dumb
the
first
one
shows
the
encroachment
of
the
concrete
walls.
So
I
will
say
that
in
the
resolution
there
you'll
see
that
the
first
two
elements,
the
retaining
wall
and
also
the
service
white
sidewalk,
the
staff
is
recommending
approval.
So
the
only
thing
that's
really
a
issue
here
is
the
concrete
wall
and
you'll
see
that's
where
the
address
is
here
and
so
I
will
try
to
scroll
down
and
show
you
this
first
photo
here.
F
R
Sorry
depiction
is,
as
all
200
is
really
trying
to
show
the
property
prior
to
the
work
that
they
have.
Actually
some
of
it
has
been
completed.
So
this
was
the
property
an
overview
of
what
the
property
was
hired
to
the
work.
So
at
the
time-
and
this
is
hard
to
see-
I'm
sorry-
you
know
if
he
had
a
chance
to
review
it.
There
were
enclosures
at
the
time
that
were
not
permitted.
R
R
So
next
page
shows
the
proposed
encroachments,
which
includes
the
29
and
a
half
square
feet
of
sidewalk,
which
staff
is
a
recommend
approval.
It's
the
service
sidewalk
from
the
public
sidewalk
to
the
home
and
then
also
the
retaining
wall,
which
is
the
ten
and
a
half
square
feet
which
we
are
don't
actually
10
square
feet.
That
staff
is
a
recommending
approval
of,
but
then
you'll
see,
there's
a
concrete
wall
here.
I,
don't
know
if
it's
easy
to
see
my
cursor
that
is
stopped
here
on
this
particular
screen
on
this
particular
picture.
R
R
Some
of
this
is
not
necessarily
helpful,
so
many
will
pass
these
pages,
and
this
is
going
to
ask
some
of
our
communications
that
are
not
really
helpful
at
this
time,
but
I'll
show
you
some
of
the
other
depictions.
That
might
be
helpful,
so
this
photo
is
all
chinax
also
enlarged.
It's
my
understanding
is
a
photo
of
the
property
prior
to
the
current
work.
R
R
R
So
the
reason
why
staff
is
recommending
a
denial
of
the
additional
eight
and
a
half
square
feet
for
the
concrete
wall
is
that
it
serves
no
functional
purpose
to
the
subject:
property
and
impacts
the
public's
used
to
enjoyment
of
public
land.
One
of
the
things
I
probably
talked
with
you
a
little
earlier
in
the
year
when
you
first
were
sworn
in.
R
So
it
says
the
most
strongly
opposes
the
erosion
of
our
property
by
an
individual
institution
or
garment
or
organization,
public
or
private
for
any
purpose
other
than
that
for
which
the
lands
were
acquired
or
proposed.
Diversions
of
Park
property
appear
to
be
in
the
interests
best
interests
of
the
park
system
or
where
all
other
alternatives
have
been
exhausted,
and
only
under
these
circumstances,
requests
will
be
taken
up,
consider
by
the
board
or
an
individual,
but
on
an
individual
basis.
So
in
the
instance
of
the
concrete
wall
it
serves
no
functional
purpose.
R
R
R
So
they've
shown
where
the
wall
there
is
not
there's
an
alternative,
and
that
is
to
shorten
the
wall
and
put
an
ad
to
the
side
so
back
to
the
land
policy,
only
under
the
only
under
the
conditions
or
all
of
the
internal,
all
all
other
alternatives
have
been
exhausted
and
in
the
instance
where
it's
necessary
can
it
be
considered
by
the
board.
This
is
not
necessary.
The
wall
is
not
retaining
the
read
it's
not
serving
any
functional
purpose
and
in
response,
and
just
in
discussion
regarding
design
and
its
usefulness
in
the
beauty
of
a
law.
R
R
We
cannot.
It
make
sense
of
expense
of
our
land
policy
view
the
scope
of
all
Park
users
in
the
use
of
our
parkland
and
put
that
against
the
individual
taste
of
a
homeowner.
So
we
have
to
consider
the
part
users
against
what
would
we
be
an
aesthetic
user,
a
parkland?
So
that's
why
staff
is
recommending
a
denial
of
the
eaten
half
square
feet
for
the
issue
for
the
additional
stone
there
concrete.
While
there
doesn't
so
I
mean
any
a
functional
purpose,.
K
K
M
I
I,
don't
think
it's
the
difficulty.
I
think
the
big
picture
is
being
missed.
If
you
look
at
the
property
before
and
and
the
job
of
being
in
parks
is
to
kind
of
beautify,
the
area
I
use
the
landscape,
architect
that
did
the
sculpture
garden,
the
difficult
Park
and
it's
the
same
question
of:
why
did
we
need
to
make
gold
medal
Park?
Why
do
we
need
the
wall?
Why
did
we
need
the
hills
we
couldn't
put
flat
grass?
M
J
A
Warn
say:
thank
you,
cheer
for
Nia
I'm,
not
a
member
of
your
committee,
yeah
I
I'm,
sympathetic
to
the
applicants,
desire
for
the
beautification
of
his
property
and
and
surrounding
property,
but
I
I.
Think
I
mean
the
applicants
comment
just
on
the
record
that
that
that
component
can
be
skipped.
I
think
reinforces
the
board's
obligation
that
we
should
reaffirm
staffs
recommendation
that
it's
not
a
requirement
of
the
project
and
that
the
policy
of
the
policies
and
the
overriding
goals
of
the
park
board.
What
in
this
case
compel
us
to
to
deny
that
request?
J
H
R
H
This
isn't
my
question
in
the
meantime,
this
is
in
space
that
we
have
people
recreative
and
correct
I
mean.
Would
you
say
then
I
mean
this
is
just
a
walkable
space
and
this
isn't
a
place
where
people
are
sitting
down.
Having
a
picnic
you
sitting
down,
barbecuing
playing
frisbee
I
mean
this.
Is
it
that
would
that
be
a
true
statement.
R
Yes,
that
would
be
so,
but
in
all,
in
all
instances,
parkland,
regardless
of
whether
we
are
having
them
picnic
there,
we
are
to
preserve
and
and
applying
land
policy
to
all
parkland,
and
this
is
a
copy
here
of
of
the
Hennepin
County
map.
That
shows-
and
this
is
probably
an
old
photo
I'm
assuming
this
may
not
be
the
right
one
yeah.
It
looks
like
the
parcel
11:18
Kenwood,
and
this
area
here
in
the
front
is
well.
My
world
was
speaking
of.
H
R
Cheer
for
Nia
and
Commissioner
Severson
I
would
just
know
him,
perhaps
as
real
property
administrator,
I'm,
probably
a
little
extreme
in
that
that
is
sort
of
my
job
and
that
is
to
consider
the
land
policy
and
to
even
to
the
point
of
eight
and
a
half
square
feet
and
I.
Think
in
terms
of
being
part
of
planning
I,
just
my
opinion,
small
in
doing
community
advisory
councils.
We
are
trying
to
observe
the
opinions
of
many
and
not
substituted
for
the
opinion
of
one.
R
H
It
just
appears
to
me
that
this
this,
the
homeowners
are
stewards
of
this
land
I
mean
that
that's
that's
upped
a
little
bit,
how
I
see
it
and
I
it's
not
their
property.
Obviously,
at
that
point,
but
I
I
mean,
like
I,
said,
I,
respect
that
whole
Harley
and
I
think
you're
doing
exactly
mostly
what
you
need
to
do
with
your
job,
absolutely
correct,
but
just
a
little
tough
I
just
maybe
disagree
a
little
bit
with
the
remain
recommendation.
J
Any
other
comments,
first
of
all,
thank
you
for
doing
something
tasteful.
We
do
appreciate
that
you
know
that
is
neighborly
and
also
I
have
to
say
it
is
unfortunate
that
it
sounds
like
you
shall
we
say,
got
misdirected
initially,
that's
something
that
the
city
and
ourselves
need
to
be.
You
know
working
out
better
to
make
sure
that
you
know
it's
a
more
seamless
process
for
you
I
appreciate
that
you
know
if
all
people
that
you
chose
auslan,
because
you
know
they
do
have
a
fine
reputation.
J
J
Jodo
landscaping
could
be
the
next
one
that
approaches
us
and
things.
This
is
aesthetically
a
benefit.
You
know
to
the
community
and
pink
flamingos
or
you
know
whatever
right.
You
know
we
are
not
here
to
judge
you
know
the
aesthetics
of
something
you
know
I
mean
we
appreciate
okay,
but
we
need
to
be
consistent
and
I.
Think
that's
you
know
really.
You
know
what
our
policy
is.
There
is
for
us
to
be.
J
You
know,
as
I
said
consistent,
and
this
is
an
encroachment
that
isn't
necessary,
and
that
is
really
how
we
have
to
make
our
judgments.
So
we
appreciate
you,
you
know
wanting
to
make
this
more
aesthetically
pleasing
to
everybody,
but
in
consistency
with
our
policy,
I
would
have
to
agree
with
staff
that
we
need
to
deny
your
additional
portion
of
the
wall.
So
with
that
all
those
in
favor
of
the
resolution
as
it
stands,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye.
C
J
O
So
the
north
service
area
master
plan
is
a
project
that
started
way
back
in
January
of
2017,
so
we've
been
at
it
quite
a
while
and
now
just
released.
Today
is
the
draft
document
available
for
public
review,
so
tonight
I'm
going
to
go
through
really
quickly
what
the
approval
process
is
for
moving
a
large
master
plan
like
this
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
master
plan
itself,
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
it
page
by
page,
like
I,
said
and
then
I'm
going
to
talk
about
ongoing
input.
O
So
the
way
the
master
plan
approval
I
has
is
working
for
the
north
service
area
master
plan
on
July
16th,
the
north
service
area
master
plan
CAC
made
its
recommendation
on
the
plan
and
based
on
that
recommendation,
we
prepared
the
document
around
those
recommendations
on
September
12th.
The
public
comment
period
opened
that
was
approved
last
week
and
also
on
this
same
date.
Obviously
I'm
here
before
you
to
present
the
draft
plan.
As
is
customary,
the
public
comment
period
will
close
on
October
27th.
O
After
that,
we
will
tabulate
the
will
tabulate
the
comment
on
the
plan
and
then
modify
the
plan
as
appropriate
and
bring
it
back
to
you
for
consideration
for
approval,
and
at
that
time
there
will
be
a
public
hearing
in
the
planning
committee
and
final
consideration
at
the
full
board.
So
the
north
service
area
master
plan
in
parallel
with
the
two
other
master
plans
that
are
already
adopted,
the
south
in
the
downtown,
has
six
sections.
There's
an
introduction
section:
a
planning
process.
O
So
a
service
area
master
plan,
as
you
may
well
know,
is
a
project
to
create
new
Park
plans
for
all
the
outdoor
facilities
in
neighborhood
parks
in
a
certain
area,
in
this
case
everything
north
of
394
and
west
of
the
river.
Excuse
me,
there
are
31
neighborhood,
Park
properties
in
the
north
service
area,
and
we
also
looked
at
three
regional
trails,
which
are
very
inextricably
linked
with
the
neighborhood
park
system
and
also
don't
have
master
plans.
O
So
this
is
what
the
north
side
looks.
Like
in
terms
of
those
parks
and
how
they
are
scattered
around
the
north
side
and
as
I
mentioned
before,
we've
been
at
this
for
about
18
months
and
during
that
time
period,
we've
had
well
more
than
a
hundred
engagement
events,
including
ten
kak
meetings
for
community
open
houses,
15
or
more
workgroup
meetings
which
are
workgroups
were
established
out
of
the
CAC,
his
sort
of
community
driven
groups
that
were
looking
at
specific
aspects
of
the
plan.
We
also
attended
a
whole
lot
of
park
events,
community
events,
stakeholder
meetings.
O
O
So
they
came
from
Houston
and
Chicago
and
Pittsburgh
and
and
sat
with
us
and
lived
with
us
for
a
week
and
helped
generate
those
design
concepts
throughout.
Obviously,
we
did
deliberate
outreach
to
an
engagement
with
people
of
color.
The
north
side
is
the
one
sector
that
it
has
the
by
far
the
largest
percentage
people
of
color
throughout
the
city.
So
that
was
a
very
important
aspect
of
that
for
us.
So
the
planning
process
basically
unfolded
like
this.
O
We
did
a
stage
where
we
connected
early
with
the
community
and
began
to
establish
a
CAC
and
then
that
led
directly
to
the
visioning
and
our
phase,
one
of
engagement
simultaneous
to
that.
We
were
doing
an
inventory
and
analysis.
So
we
were
getting
to
learn
the
parks
as
we
went
through
there
during
this
time
there
was
quite
a
bit
of
community
engagement.
We
had
three
different
CAC
meetings.
We
established
workgroups
out
of
the
CAC,
which
brought
more
community
into
the
process.
O
So
the
community
was
helping
us
in
turf
the
data
not
just
leaving
it
up
to
us.
We
had
a
design
week,
as
I
mentioned,
we
had
several
open
houses
around
the
initial
concepts
and
the
workgroups
met
again.
So
there
was
again
another
round
of
that
engagement.
Based
on
all
of
that
input,
we
prepared
preferred
concepts
and
began
our
phase.
3
engagement.
There
was
a
CAC
sort
of
in
the
middle
of
those
two
things
to
really
look
at
some
guiding
principles
and
then
actually
for
tax.
O
O
Just
so,
you
know
kind
of
some
of
the
things
that
guided
us
throughout
and
things
that
will
guide
the
implementation
of
this
plan
guiding
principle
number
one
is
really
about
furthering
the
sense
of
pride
in
the
north
side
through
high
quality
parts,
and
doing
so
is
recognizing
sorry
recognizing
that
doing
so
is
a
question
of
racial
equity
because
of
those
demographic
factors
that
I
told
you
about
the
North
Side
before.
So
we
really
wanted
to
lead
with
that.
O
The
idea
around
this
is
to
continue
to
increase
the
pride
in
North
Side
hand-in-hand
with
that
in
principle.
Number
five
and
I
know
that
this
has
been
discussed
at
the
board
level.
Before
is
that
we
do
want
to
continue
to
work
with
partner
agencies
to
minimize
the
possibility
of
displacement,
as
these
parks
improve.
We
need
to
continue
to
study
the
effect
of
Park
development
on
local
economic
factors.
O
We
can
recognize
that
parks
are
a
contributor
to
higher
property
values
which
can
be
beneficial
if
people
are
able
to
stay
there,
and
then
we
want
to
strive
to
make
improvements
that
make
people
want
to
stay
in
their
communities.
So
again
we
don't
have
the
final
solutions
to
this
whole
question
yet,
but
we
want
to
recognize
this
as
we
move
forward
through
the
plan,
so
it
does
rise
to
the
level
of
a
guiding
principle.
O
Another
guiding
principle
is
to
consider
all
age
ranges
in
the
design
and
development
of
parks.
I
highlight
this
in
part,
because
you've
just
recently
adopted
some
programmatic
strategies
around
rec
quest,
and
this
is
an
example
of
how
some
of
these
things
are
very
much
in
line.
So
there
is
a
focus
on
youth
and
also
focus
on
seniors
embedded
in
this
master
planning
effort.
Also,
this
was
one
that
was.
O
It
was
really
fascinating
for
me
because
it
didn't
come
out
as
much
in
some
of
the
other
service
area
plans,
but
a
real
desire
to
create
more
opportunities
for
arts,
music
and
performance
that
reflect
the
North
Side
community,
whether
that's
programmed
or
just
spontaneous
in
our
parks,
and
then
also
a
desire
to
prove
the
parks,
environmental
performance,
and
there
were
five
specific
techniques
that
were
highlighted.
So
I
want
to
highlight
a
few
things.
That
would
be
some
area-wide
amenity
changes
that
came
from
the
community
and
we're
kind
of
coming
up.
O
That
would
be
sort
of
changes
or
new
things
in
the
north
service
area.
We're
looking
at
new
kind
of
smaller
splash,
splash
and
spray
plazas
at
three
different
parks
where
access
to
aquatics
is
fairly
limited.
We
also
look
at
traditional
play
being
complemented
with
adventure
play
and
climbing
at
nine
different
parks.
O
A
big
slide
at
far
view
climbing
at
Hall
Park
nature
play
at
Shingle
Creek,
which
is
kind
of
a
natural
outdoor
fitness
stations
at
for
parks,
additional
field
space
at
eight
different
parks
to
create
more
space
for
football
soccer
and
other
field
sports
that
are
growing
in
popularity.
New
premier,
football
and
soccer
fields
at
Harrison
and
North
Commons,
with
the
possibility
of
a
winter
sports
dome
in
North,
Commons
I'm,
going
to
talk
about
that
in
a
little
bit:
expanded
basketball
at
Ten
parks.
O
We
heard
this
pretty
loud
and
clear
and
then
also
the
inclusion
of
CPAC
chakra
and
pickleball
courts
at
Shingle,
Creek
and
Creek
View.
These
are
games
that
are
rising
in
popularity.
I'm
gonna
show
some
pictures
of
that
in
just
a
moment.
In
addition,
we're
proposing
refrigerated
ice
for
skating
and
hockey
at
North
Commons,
some
all
wheeled
parks
and
skate
spots
of
various
different
scales
at
five
parks:
bicycle
playgrounds
at
four
parts,
group,
shelters
and
gathering
spaces,
really
big,
really
important
on
the
north
side.
O
So
we're
looking
at
that
for
15
parks
and
outdoor
performer
spaces,
as
I
mentioned
before
fairly
small
scale.
Ad
hoc
at
six
parts
trail
additions
in
most
places
so
that
we
can
get
walking
loops
within
those
parks
and
then
urban
agriculture
sites
in
four
places.
So
just
really
quickly.
A
couple
of
pictures
you
can
see
here
some
of
the
alternative
kind
of
play
options
in
the
lower
right
is
an
adult
fitness
idea.
There's
some
big
slides
here.
O
Just
some
visions
pickleball
is
being
played
on
the
top
two
slides
here
and
then
the
bottom
two
is
CPAC
takraw,
which,
if
you
haven't
ever
seen,
that
played
I,
would
suggest
finding
a
youtube,
video
or
something
these
guys
play
volleyball
with
their
feet,
and
it's
pretty
guys
and
gals.
I
should
say
it's
pretty
amazing
and
then
it's
in
terms
of
the
bike
and
the
skating.
Here's
a
couple
of
different
options
that
we
look
at
incorporating.
It
was
interesting.
O
I
drove
through
the
Northside
today
delivering
service
area
master
plans
to
the
rec,
centers
and
I
noticed
a
group
of
kids
on
a
sidewalk
had
built
their
own
skate,
contraptions
and
we're
running
up
and
down
the
sidewalk
with
their
skateboards
jumping
over
wood
things.
So
one
of
the
pieces,
that's
also
important
that
we
discussed
with
the
CAC
at
lengths
lengths
were
the
idea
of
these
big
moves.
O
So,
as
things
started
to
bubble
up,
there
were
a
couple
things
that
seemed
bigger
almost
than
just
the
park
board,
so
we
have
guiding
principle
number
18,
which
is
to
implement
significant
park
enhancements
at
four
parks,
with
the
recognition
that
these
would
be
programmatic,
financial
and
leadership,
partnerships
with
other
agencies
beyond
us,
they're
beyond
the
scale
of
our
budget
and
potentially
wherewithal,
but
they
were
desired
by
the
community.
So
these
are
going
to
be
bigger
opportunities
for
us
to
look
broader
into
the
community.
O
The
places
where
these
are
envisioned
is
at
Creek
View,
where
there's
a
real
dearth
of
opportunities
for
dining
and
eating,
and
so
that
was
a
key
idea
there
at
Creek,
View
at
Cleveland,
Park,
there's
a
desire
to
expand
that
Park
out
to
Penn
Avenue
as
part
of
a
redevelopment
of
the
Penn
and
Lowry
intersection.
The
city
is
actually
on
board
with
this,
as
is
the
community.
It
would
be
a
great
vision
for
that
particular
Park
in
neighborhood,
which
some
real
challenges
because
of
its
placement
in
behind
a
bunch
of
houses
at
North
Commons.
O
This
is
probably
the
largest
one.
We've
talked
about
a
multi-generational
sports
arts
and
community
hub
with
an
enhanced
waterpark
premiere
field
and
winter
activity
dome
and
it
bring
bar
meadows
on
the
possibility
of
an
all-weather
conservatory
like
building
that
would
have
indoor
play
and
basketball.
O
So
I
want
to
talk
about
the
park
plans
themselves,
I'm
going
to
pivot
into
how
the
designs
for
each
park
look.
So
each
park
has
its
own
park
packet,
so
that
can
be
sort
of
pulled
apart
and
be
standalone
almost
like
its
own
executive
summary.
The
park
plans,
I'm
just
gonna,
show
showed
Harrison
for
the
the
sake
of
picking
one.
So
we
have
some
location
and
history
information
existing
conditions,
information.
We
always
have
an
existing
conditions
image,
as
well
as
the
proposed
design
itself.
O
The
overall
operations
and
maintenance
analysis
is
going
to
assist
MPR,
be
in
identifying
how
we
get
proper
resources
going
forward.
As
these
things
do
get
implemented,
the
analysis
that
we
have
here
is
based
on
methodology
established
in
the
south
service
area
master
plan,
and
by
that
analysis
we
look
at
each
facility
and
we
assign
sort
of
a
maintenance
differential
to
it.
I
know
at
the
bottom
here.
This
looks
like
a
very
big
number
remember.
This
is
at
build-out
of
a
30-year
plan,
so
this
is
a
very
gradual
increase.
O
So
that's
where
the
maintenance
goes
implementation-
and
this
is
the
last
section
I'll
talk
about.
We
look
for
accountability
and
transparency
throughout,
so
there's
some
steps
that
we
take
to
ensure
that
these
master
plans
are
followed.
We
really
embed
them
digitally
into
our
files.
We
track
them
and
the
document
itself
has
guidance
for
how
it
should
be
used
and
amended,
and
then,
lastly,
there's
a
few
notes:
I
want
to
make
on
cost,
so
the
cost
estimate
was
for
every
single
Park
and
some
items
to
keep
in
mind.
These
are
twenty
nineteen
dollars.
O
I
did
go
ahead
and
escalate
them
to
2019,
since
most
of
the
projects
would
initiate
in
that
year.
They
include
everything
these
are
sort
of
all
in
costs
and
the
grand
total
is
for
a
30-year
plan
window,
and
it
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
all
these
costs
will
be
borne
by
EM
PRV,
there's
always
partnerships
and
outside
money
that
could
come
to
it.
That's
tiny
because
I
want
to
expand
it
on
the
next
page
and
talk
about
a
comparison.
O
Really,
we've
done
now
three
of
these
either
adopted
or
in
draft
form,
and
it's
interesting
to
look
at
costs
per
acre
for
park
development
in
2019
dollars.
The
south
service
area
master
plan
proposed
about
a
$320,000
cost
per
acre
downtown,
was
more
keep
in
mind.
We're
working
from
absolute
scratch
there
in
downtown.
So
it's
higher
and
North's
it's
somewhere
in
between
master
plans
are
aspirational.
O
If
we
designed,
in
my
opinion
just
to
the
money,
we
have
we'd
be
selling
ourselves
short
because
there's
always
the
ability
to
bring
money
in
from
outside
by
inspiring
the
opportunity
for
grants,
philanthropic
funding
partnerships,
who
knows
what?
So
we
do
want
to
be
aspirational,
but
not
unrealistically.
So
so,
I
looked
at
the
combined
cost
per
acre
cost
of
South
downtown
and
North.
O
Those
plans
that
were
essentially
complete
with
for
the
most
part
and
the
per
acre
cost
for
improvement
is
three
hundred
fifty
eight
thousand
dollars,
which
interestingly
you'll
note,
is
almost
exactly
what
North
is.
So
that's
right
in
the
middle
of
the
road.
Remember
that
these
are
30-year
plans.
So
if
we
just
take
the
20
year,
MPP
20
as
our
main
funding
source
for
this,
and
if
we
normalize
against
the
30
years.
O
So
if
we
either
assume
that
NPP
20
is
going
to
go
for
another
10
or
if
we
shrink
our
budget
by
2
by
a
third,
then
what
happens
is
that
NPP
20
would
actually
fund
70%
of
these
improvements,
system-wide
so
clearly
a
gap
clearly
aspirational,
but
not
completely
out
of
the
realm
of
possibility,
ongoing
input,
the
public
can
comment
online
or
any
north
service
area,
recreation
center
or
here
at
headquarters
until
October
27.
The
survey
monkey
link
is
right.
There
you
do
an
online
survey.
We
also
have
printed
surveys
after
the
comment
period
closes.
O
H
O
Yes
sure,
chair,
Forney,
Commissioner,
Severson
I
think
that's
a
very
accurate
depiction
of
what
we're
hearing,
and
this
was
one
of
the
more
difficult
decisions
for
the
design
team
to
bring
forward
the
plan
at
North.
Commons
is
a
significant
change
from
today's
North
Commons.
The
basic
plan
idea
I
can
pull
it
up
on
the
screen
while
I
talk.
O
The
basic
idea
is
to
create
a
new
different
kind
of
center.
They
would
actually
connect
the
aquatic
access
with
the
athletic
access
and
also
create
a
fairly
significant
community
gathering
space
on
the
inside,
which
was
all
of
which
were
very
heavily
desired,
or
my
Ryan
Lee
as
we
began
to
move
through
this
process.
O
So
over
here,
you
can
see
a
different
building,
a
different
arrangement
of
these
facilities.
The
main
the
main
goal
of
this
preferred
plan
was
to
address
community
desires
that
were
hearing
which
included
a
desire
for
a
lot
more
opportunities
for
sports
and
arts
indoors
higher
quality
facilities,
but
also
to
make
sure
that
the
park
could
retain
some
of
its
pastoral
wooded
character.
O
So
right
now,
North
Commons
Park
is
kind
of
divided,
almost
in
half,
with
the
northern
end
over
here
being
home
to
our
water
park
and
our
rec
center
in
our
parking
lot
and
the
fields
and
the
southern
half
is
very
heavily
wooded
with
some
significant
landmark
trees.
So
we've
essentially
preserved
that
division.
We've
left
the
southern
half,
mostly
as
it
is,
and
then
the
northern
half
we've
done
yes,
an
even
more
aggressive
development
than
it
is.
That,
then,
is
there
today.
O
No
matter
what's
happening
on
the
site
and
it
also
provides
a
year-round
indoor
activity
both
within
the
building
within
the
larger
building
and
also
on
the
field
if
it
were
domed
in
winter,
so
the
dome
itself
has
been,
as
commissioner
Stevenson
correctly
relates.
That's
really
been
the
point.
That's
been
contentious
in
the
community.
We
have
heard
a
real
desire
for
having
these
kinds
of
facilities
in
general.
There's
been
significant
concern
with
having
it
here
at
North,
Commons,
primarily
related
to
the
potential
size
and
scale
of
it,
and
those
concerns
have
been
raised
by
adjacent
homeowners.
H
To
share
too,
with
other
commercials,
valid
concerns
about
not
having
a
baseball
field
any
longer
and
also
not
having
tennis
courts.
So
them
were
many
of
the
conversations
that
were
had
between
community
members.
I
also
want
to
share.
What
can
you
do
that?
Have
that
can
I
ask
you
before
I
go
there
about
the
cut
through
at
far
view
park.
O
O
Our
vision
for
that
pathway
would
be
that
it
would
be
a
five
percent
accessible
school
that
would
allow
all
users
to
be
to
get
to
the
top
of
the
hill
and
that
would
be
aligned
on
the
side
of
the
hill
that
isn't
currently
used
for
sledding,
so
wouldn't
interrupt
that
use
at
all.
I
think
there
was
a
feeling
among
the
design
team
and
then
ultimately,
a
feeling
among
the
CAC
that
that
accessibility
should
be
provided.
I
do
understand
that
that
has
been
another
point
of
discussion
in
the
community
about
that
particular
item.
Oh.
O
O
H
I
was
really
excited
to
hear
or
to
see
both
Lyndell
and
our
commissioner
French
at
Commissioner
for
knee,
come
down
to
fire
view,
Park
and
and
also
NORTHCOM
park,
to
have
conversations
with
some
of
these
folks
and
I.
Just
you
know,
I
want
to
reiterate
that
we've
written
a
lot
of
be
inclusive
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
is
heard
and
has
an
opportunity
to
speak,
and
a
lot
of
folks
in
this
in
this
process
did
not
feel
heard.
They
they
didn't
feel
validated
and
they
felt
like
the
time
was
wasted.
H
K
J
O
Chair
Forney,
that's
for
board
and
or
bike,
so
these
are
very
small,
designed
kind
of
trick
spaces
that
might
be
along
a
linear
pathway.
So
not
a
full-blown
bike
board
park,
but
little
elements
kind
of
incorporated
within
a
kind
of
a
pathway
system
that
it's
not
a
winter
activity.
It
is
for
bikes
and
boards.
Okay,.
J
And
it
just
well
they're,
not
in
the
whatever
draft,
whether
or
not
that's
clear
for
people
and
awesome,
I
love,
your
analogy
or
I
should
say
of
the
three
service
area
plans
than
the
costs.
I
think
that's
that's
wonderful
for
us
to
have.
As
far
as
you
know,
our
planning
and
I
appreciate
also
your
putting
in
the
terms
if
these
are
aspirational
and
yet,
at
the
same
time
not
unrealistic.
So
once
again,
Adam
you
do
a
brilliant
job
and
I
appreciate
it.
So
thank
you
very
much
and
staff
and
our
consultants.
J
G
B
A
You
have
a
cork
I,
go
to
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda,
so
we
spent
moved.
Is
there
a
second,
it's
been
moved
and
seconded?
Is
there
any
discussion
on
the
agenda,
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
opposed
abstentions.
The
agenda
carries
I,
would
entertain
a
motion
to
enter
into
closed
session
for
receiving
and
litigation
update,
so
we'll
been
moved.
Is
there
a
second
second
moved
and
seconded
any
discussion?
I
see
none
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
opposed
abstentions,
we're
in
closed
session.