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From YouTube: April 11, 2019 Zoning & Planning Committee
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Minneapolis Zoning & Planning Committee Meeting
A
Good
morning,
I'd
like
to
call
to
order
this
regular
meeting
of
the
zoning
and
planning
committee
for
Thursday
April
11th,
my
name
is
Jeremy
Schrader
and
I'm.
The
chair
of
this
committee
with
me
at
the
Dyess,
our
councilmember
Allison,
councilmember,
Reich
and
councilmember
Gordon.
Let
the
record
reflect
that
we
have
a
quorum
I
like
to
start
this
meeting
by
welcoming
kimberly
alleyne
as
our
new
planning
manager.
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
working
closely
with
kimberly
on
this
committees.
A
Business
I'd
also
just
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
thank
Jason
Wittenberg
for
his
years
of
a
service
in
this
role.
Jason
will
now
lead
our
code,
development
group
and
I'm
grateful
for
his
leadership
up
this
work,
and
at
this
time
we
like
to
turn
it
over
to
director
port
for
a
couple.
Lori's
Thank.
B
B
Will
he
be
working
closely
with
this
committee
on
implementing
the
comp
plan
and
making
other
kind
of
streamlining
and
changes
to
our
city
ordinances
and
then
I
want
to
acknowledge
Kimberly's
been
with
us
11
years,
we're
thrilled
to
have
her
taking
over
land
use,
and
we
look
forward
to
seeing
her
regularly
at
Z
and
P
so
with
that
I
think
the
chair
for
recognizing
Jason's
contribution
and
welcome
Kimberly.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
A
So
much
so
we'll
get
back
to
the
agenda.
We've
got
six
items
on
today's
agenda
and
we'll
dispense
with
the
consent
agenda.
First
item
number:
three:
its
rezoning
applications
submitted
by
Noah
Eastman
for
the
property
located
30
at
11,
Minnehaha
Avenue
item
4
is
the
rezoning
application
submitted
by
the
Northeast
Park
Investment
LLC
for
the
property
located
at
1501
Johnson
Street
northeast.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
these
items,
or
would
anyone
like
to
pull
it
up
for
discussion?
A
Seeing
none
I'd
like
to
move
approval
of
the
consent
agenda,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye,
all
those
opposed
say.
No,
the
eyes
have
it
and
the
motion
carries
we'll
move
on
to
the
quasi-judicial
hearing.
A
portion
of
the
agenda
item
number
1
is
the
consideration
of
an
appeal
regarding
the
decision
of
the
Zoning
Board
of
adjustments,
approving
a
variance
reduce
the
minimum
off
street
parking
requirements
for
child
care,
cynic
center
located
at
2504,
35th
avenue
south
and
we'll
begin
with
the
staff
presentation.
C
Morning,
chair
Schrader
and
committee
members
before
you
today
is
an
appeal
of
the
decision
of
the
Zoning
Board
of
Adjustment,
granting
a
variance
to
reduce
the
off
street
parking
requirement
for
a
childcare
center
at
2504
35th
Avenue
South,
the
approved
variance,
is
to
reduce
the
number
of
required
spaces
from
12
spaces
to
8
spaces.
7
of
those
8
spaces
would
be
physically
provided
on
site,
while
the
8th
space
would
be
provided
via
bicycle.
Incentives
to
additional
drop-off
spaces
would
be
provided
on
Street.
C
The
property
is
located
at
the
intersection
of
West
25th
and
35th
Avenue
south
it's
located
in
the
I
1
light
industrial
and
the
industrial
living
overlay
district.
The
home
to
the
immediate
south,
is
a
legal
non-conforming
residential
use
in
the
eye.
1,
the
rest
of
the
immediate
area
is
zoned
for
residential
uses,
though
there
are
some
commercial
uses
located
along
25th,
including
a
childcare
center
directly
across
the
street.
The
northern
half
of
the
property
is
currently
occupied
by
a
vacant
single
story
building.
C
Currently,
there
is
an
existing
unstriped
parking
area
and
a
landscaped
area
to
the
south
of
the
building.
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
remodel
the
existing
building
into
a
new
childcare
center.
The
childcare
center
would
occupied
both
the
main
floor
and
the
basement
of
the
building.
There
would
be
a
variety
of
site
improvements
proposed
as
part
of
the
project,
the
two
most
notable
being
striping,
the
existing
parking
area
to
provide
the
7
spaces
and
the
bike
parking
and
the
installation
of
a
playground
space
that
would
occupy
much
of
the
existing
landscaped
area.
C
Staff
also
noted
that
the
variance
facilitates
the
establishment
of
a
use
here
and
and
a
productive
use
of
the
existing
commercial
building,
with
the
use
that
is
more
compatible
with
the
surrounding
air
and
character
of
the
of
the
generally
residential
area
than
many
other
uses
which
could
be
permitted
in
the
high
one
district.
So
the
Board
of
Adjustment
adopted
staff
findings
and
approved
the
variance
with
some
fairly
typical
conditions,
I
believe
the
appellant
is
here
to
speak
and
their
statement
is
included
in
your
packets
there.
C
A
You
very
much
thank
you
very
much
I'm,
not
seeing
any
questions
at
this
point.
I'll
open
up
the
public
hearing
and
I'll
give.
It
advocate
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
the
committee
with
the
applicant
like
to
come
out
for
a
representative
come
up
and
you
can
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Please
my.
D
D
If
you
went
through
the
staff
report,
I
don't
believe
you
noticed
how
many
kids
are
slated
to
be
at
that
Center
they're,
currently
talking
169
children
plus
20
to
30
staff
across
the
street
is
another
daycare,
that's
been
there
for
a
year
or
more,
and
that
has
about
60
kids,
so
we're
having
the
equivalent
of
a
elementary
school
of
about
230,
250
people
and
children.
It's
a
sight.
D
A
D
A
E
Good
morning,
chairman
committee,
my
name
is
Karina
Zumba
I
am
the
chief
operating
officer
for
theater
on
Gonzaga
I've
worked
for
the
other
Encantada
since
they'd
open
in
2013
I.
Before
coming
to
the
tier
in
2013.
I
worked
several
years,
I,
don't
know
they're
Spanish
Immersion
they
carry
school
in
Minneapolis.
Having
worked
at
and
been
the
person
responsible
for
opening
for
Minneapolis
daycares,
so
we'll
be.
E
The
fifth
I
have
well
over
a
decade
experience
in
how
many
apples,
daycares
traffic
works,
the
impact
on
neighborhoods
and
the
parking
needs
of
the
center
first
I
want
to
share
that.
We
have
always
worked
hard
to
be
a
good
neighbor
and
a
positive
community
member
from
a
sponsoring
local
five
K's
and
collecting
annual
donations
for
the
rich
of
youth
to
keep
him
to
full-time
staff
to
ensure
our
facilities
are
kept
in
the
best
condition
we
are
known
for
being
a
great
mover.
The
Seward
location
is
our
foreclose
upon
building
that
was
left
in
despair.
E
It
is
owned
industrial.
So
there
are
many
types
of
businesses
that
could
go
in
that
space
and
those
businesses
would
most
likely
put
a
very
large
and
sightly
parking
lot
where
we're
putting
a
playground.
We
have
talked
to
some
of
our
neighbors
and
they
have
expressed
to
us
that
they
do
not
want
us
to
add
more
parking
that
they
appeal
or
Canberra's
to
express
their
concerns
about
traffic
and
parking.
We
are
great
with
neighbors.
We
do
not
want
to
add
more
parking.
Adding
parking
would
be
bad
for
everyone.
E
The
pill
mentioned
a
few
things
that
we
want
to
address.
First,
is
the
sacred
sense
is
not
created
by
the
person
personally
having
an
interest
in
the
property
and
are
not
based
on
economic
considerations.
This
is
a
correct
statement.
A
childcare
center
is
a
permitted
use
in
this
zoning
district
and
therefore
installing
a
playground
for
a
childcare
center
does
follow
the
intent
of
a
comprehensive
plan.
The
appeal
sure
is
that
the
need
of
the
for
the
playground
area
as
presented
is
purely
economic,
which
is
not
accurate.
E
The
playground
size
is
not
related
to
the
number
of
children.
We're
licensed
for
Institute
requires
70
square
feet
of
outdoor
area
per
child
in
the
area.
If
we
design
a
playground
area
large
enough
for
all
children
old
enough
to
play
and
at
the
same
time
we
will
be
required
to
install
an
outdoor
area
more
than
10,000
square
feet.
This
is
why
all
day
cares
and
Minneapolis
design
play
wants
to
be
3000
to
6000
square
feet.
This
is
large
enough
to
accommodate
two
classrooms
which
take
turns
this.
E
Has
this
site
has
limited
options
for
outdoor
space
and
the
proposed
playground
area
is
just
less
than
3,000
square
feet.
It
is
not
possible
to
put
the
playground
equipment
between
the
street
and
the
building
on
the
east
side
because
of
the
floor
radius
required
for
equipment.
It's
too
narrow
this,
the
state
I'm.
Sorry,
the
the
state
statute
pertaining
to
require
outdoor
space,
Sounion
ordinances
and
current
building
a
lot
design,
we're
not
within
our
control.
E
Our
proposed
designs
will
fulfill
the
intent
of
this
only
district
while
maintaining
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
neighbors
over
minneapolis
centers
have
shared.
They
are
to
have
us
as
a
neighbor,
compared
with
other
possible
uses.
Our
centers
are
closed
with
a
vast
majority
of
people
and
at
home
evenings
and
weekends,
and
have
no
impact
on
traffic.
Then,
during
weekdays,
our
parking
lot
is
often
a
empty.
E
The
only
time
there's
traffic
is
you're
in
drop-off
and
pickup,
and
we
have
submitted
a
limited
time
parking
application
for
along
our
property
lines
for
those
two
specific
periods
of
time
Monday
through
Friday,
our
Wyndham
location,
which
was
mentioned
in
the
previous
meeting,
has
only
five
spaces.
Yet
fifty
more
children
and
fifty
more
employees,
which
is
less
parking
that
we
have
at
Seward.
Yet
we
have
not
had
a
single
neighbor
or
the
city
issues
with
traffic
from
our
use.
E
They
have
shared
that
that
they
grateful
because
the
church
took
away
much
of
their
available
street
parking
a
week
weekends
and
we
do
not
take
any.
Therefore,
in
comparison
to
other
possible
businesses.
Options
going
at
this
site,
our
Impa
kits
notably
less
and
according
to
our
neighbors
at
our
other
monopolist
occasions,
isn't
a
negative.
E
Finally
I
want
to
add.
The
quality
chunk
here
is
very
hard
to
find
in
Minneapolis,
particularly
childcare.
That
represents
the
values
parents
hold
dear
right.
Now
we
have
over
300
families
when
I
would
make
Minneapolis
wait
on
this,
so
might
never
get
in
on
a
program
with
limited
spaces
develop
a
Minneapolis.
We
ask
that
you
grant
our
parents
so
that
we
can
continue
to
offer
Minneapolis
families
a
high
quality
option
for
children
for
their
children's
care.
Thanks
Thank.
F
If
I
could
ask
a
couple
questions,
and
maybe
we
could
just
go
back
to
the
site
plan,
it
has
the
street
parking.
You
mentioned
that
you
were
putting
in
15
minute
drop
off
parking,
the
only
Sanders.
Yes,
could
you
just
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
show
us
with
your
mouse
or
maybe
you
can
just
explain.
It
looks
like
there's
only
a
few
near
the
corner
here.
Are
you?
Are
you
proposing
to
do
more
than
that?
We.
F
G
G
My
name
is
Pat
Spangenberg
I'm,
the
general
contractor.
The
bee
house
was
assisting
with
this
and
I've
helped
them
build
the
other
facilities,
a
few
of
them.
Anyhow,
this
remodel
in
the
space
that
you
see
here
on
the
map
and
such
for
the
parking
stalls
there's
an
actually
the
back
side
of
that
building
is
in
an
alley.
So
you
got.
You
got
35th
Avenue
on
one
side
and
another
Main
Street
on
the
other,
because
not
a
lot
of
room
between
them.
G
Two
sides
of
the
building
at
all
off
the
alley
coming
in
you
can
see
where
she's
got
a
thrashing
closures
that
she'd
like
to
include.
There
is
a
paved
area
right
there
behind
the
building.
That
is
fenced
off
directly
right
off
the
edge
of
the
alley.
So
this
has
not
changed.
She
might
make
that
into
playground.
G
Area
continue
and
put
up
a
nicer
fence
there
to
keep
the
killed
children
confined,
but
as
you
pull
in
there's
an
access
point
right
there
right
now
and
there
was
probably
about
I'm,
assuming
there
was
about
five
or
six
parking
stalls
in
that
alley
or
in
that
area
already.
So
this
is
already
a
paved
area
for
access
to
that
building.
G
These
two
buildings
had
one
they
called
it
two
lots,
but
it's
one
building,
it's
bottom
line
so
technically
to
make
everything
fit
and
accomodate
the
handicap
stalls,
she's
reconfigured
it
kept
everything
on
her
property
and
just
made
the
adequate
space
for
the
playground
area
that
you
see
in
front
of
the
parking
part
of
the
existing
property.
So
as
far
as
I'm
I
mean
as
far
as
I
know,
she's,
not
an
interfering.
You
want
the
product
be
other
than
being
in
children
of
the
area,
taking
care
of
child
care
so
that
oh
yeah.
F
My
question
specifically
was
about
on
street
drop-off
parking.
Only.
We
got
a
letter
from
the
Neighborhood
Association
yesterday,
the
top
adding
more
fifteen-minute
only
parking
size
on
street
for
drop
cloth
and
I
was
talking
about
how
on
the
the
drawing
here,
we
see
that
there's
two
designated
drop-off
parking
spaces
I.
Are
you
gonna
be
requesting
that
you
have
more
than
two
I?
Don't.
G
F
Well,
maybe
we
can
talk
more
about
that.
It
might
be
helpful
if
we,
if
we
increased,
that
a
little
bit
I
think
that's
what
the
neighborhood
group
was
requesting
to
I.
Don't
think
we
can
put
a
condition
about
our
right-of-way.
We're
gonna
have
Public
Works
being
very
interested
in
and
what
could
be
a
condition
and
what
couldn't
and
maybe
Andrew
can
answer
that
question
about
whether
or
not
we
can
put
a
condition
on
the
street
parking.
My
confess
something
we'd
have
to
work
out
elsewhere.
The.
F
C
It
counts
my
record
and
the
two
spaces
that
are
shown
on
there.
This
is
their
most
recent
site
plan
that
they
submitted
as
part
of
their
PDR.
Those
two
spaces
have
not
yet
been
approved
by
Public
Works,
and
my
understanding
is
that
they
probably
would
need
to
relocate
those
due
to
the
bus.
Stop
that's
there,
but
you
you
could
put
a
condition
on
on
the
application
requiring
more
designated
off
street
parking
stalls.
I.
Don't
think
that
we
could
recommend
that
they
be
in
one
particular
spot
on
the
street
without
Public
Works
is
approval.
F
So
we
could
designate
an
increase
of
on
street
parking
drop-off,
yes,
that
that
is
the
case.
Okay.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
I
I
had
another
question.
If
I
may,
mr.
Church
and
I
think
everybody
probably
saw
the
letter
that
we
got
yesterday
from
the
neighborhood
group
with
these
three
added
conditions,
the
one
was
about
coordinating
our
eliminating
that
bus.
Stop,
that's
not
a
condition
that
we
can
really
put
on
the
applicant,
because
that
bus
stop
is,
is
that
transit
bus,
stop
and
that's
an
hour
right
away?
Well
as
well
correct
that
Church.
A
Thank
you
next
I'd
like
to
open
the
public
hearing
and
give
members
of
the
public
who'd
like
an
opportunity
to
speak.
You'll
have
two
minutes
and
that
time
will
be
taken
on
the
clock
by
the
clerk.
So
if
anybody
wants
to
come
up
and
share
their
starting,
please
say
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Please.
H
Hi
mr.
chair,
my
name's
rosemary
for
some
members
of
the
committee
I'm,
a
neighbor
I
live
at
2440,
34th,
ave
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
my
the
reason
that
I
was
supporting
the
neighborhood
group
and
the
efforts
on
the
community
part
to
appeal
this
was
that
the
process
got
a
bit
ahead
of
us
and
we
didn't
have
opportunities
earlier
on
that
we
were
quite
able
to
take
advantage
of.
So
we
appreciate
having
this
chance
now.
H
We're
in
supportive
development
in
the
neighborhood
in
general
or
I
am
I'm
an
early
childhood
mental
health
provider,
though,
and
I'm
very
concerned
about
safety
of
kids.
So,
given
the
fact
that
we
now
are
going
to
have
to
child
cares
across
the
street
from
each
other
in
an
area
that
already
has
a
lot
of
congestion,
I,
don't
really
care
about
parking
for,
say,
I
care
about
care
about
what
parkings
impact
is
on
safety
of
pedestrians
and
bicyclists,
and
particularly
children.
H
Now
that
we're
gonna,
have
you
know
over
250,
like
Mike,
said
almost
an
elementary
school
on
this
corner
in
a
street?
That's
not
really
designed
for
it.
So
the
reason
that
I
wanted
to
come
here
and
have
this
opportunity
to
was
to
impress
upon
you
our
concern
that
this
city
really
needs
to
respond
with
appropriate
infrastructure
to
support
the
development.
So
that's
the
main
point
I
want
to
make,
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you.
A
I
Hello
good
morning,
my
name
is
Sheila
Hogan
and
I
live
a
direct,
come
practically
across
the
street
from
the
new
daycare
is,
and
my
ally
shares
with
the
current
daycare
and
I
know,
there's
not
really
a
connection
between
the
current
and
the
new
one
they're
different
buildings,
different
businesses,
but
the
current
one.
There
is
traffic
in
the
alley,
and
that's
it's
just
it
just
is
because
it's,
and
so
almost
daily
I
am
between
myself
and
my
daughter
who
drives
we're
going
to
pull
into
our
alley
and
there's
cars
in
the
alley.
I
I
Two
spaces
for
a
hundred
and
forty
kids,
the
families
of
140
kids
does
not
make
a
lot
of
sense
to
me
and
I
know
that
one
of
the
things
they
would
like
to
be
thought
about
is
that
there
would
not
be
traffic
of
drop-off
traffic
going
into
that
parking
lot
onto
the
alley
that
the
drop-offs
stay
on
the
street
and
that
somehow,
maybe
you
didn't
have
to
increase
the
number
of
drop-off
spots,
then
around
them
on
the
street
because
of
two
spaces.
Does
that
make
sense
to
me?
So
please
consider.
I
Fixing
that
somehow
but
I
am
concerned
about
safety,
more
than
anything
I
mean
right
now
we
had
there's
a
there's,
a
yoga
center
and
a
coffee
shop
within
a
block
than
in
the
next
block,
and
that's
a
lot
of
traffic
from
that
those
businesses,
and
so
the
all
the
businesses
together
create
a
situation
of
a
lot
of
traffic
and
not
very
safe,
coming
out
of
the
alley
crossing
certain
intersections.
So
we
need
to
need
some
attention
there.
Thank.
J
The
two
blocks
are
very
busy
with
restaurant
at
Yoga
Center,
a
nice
ride,
bike
hub
the
bus
route,
and
you
know
that
25th
Street
is
a
municipal
state
aid
Road
and
it
continues
get
busy
and
and
our
goal
is
to
see
how
we
can
create
a
safer
Street
and
in
we
support
very
much
the
Dave
Kerr
moving
in.
And
but
we
would
ask
that
we're
not
opposed
to
granting
the
parking
variance.
But
we
would
ask
in
in
exchange
that
the
parking
lot
behind
the
building
not
be
used
for
drop-off.
So
it
would.
J
It
would
be
used
by
people
coming
with
longer-term
business
at
the
day
care
such
as
coming
to
enroll
at
the
school.
It
would
be
used
by
the
staff
van
that
the
center
would
have
it
would
be
used
as
a
parking
lot,
but
not
for
that
drop-off
and
if
there
are
something
like
50
of
150
kids
being
dropped
out
between
7:00
and
9:00
a.m.
that
12-foot
alley
will
be
quite
a
dangerous
place
with
people
maneuvering
and
what
we
find
that
the
daycare
across
the
street
is
that
they're
using
other
people's
driveways
to
maneuver.
J
B
G
G
With
that,
with
the
parking
as
she's
showing
on
here
is
drop-off
parking,
I
was
just
just
looking
at
trying
to
figure
out
whether
or
not
there
was
actually
a
bus.
Stop
sign
on
that
corner
in
that
area
and
I.
Think
a
lot
of
the
concern
is
that
you've
got
two
businesses
directly
across
the
street
from
each
other.
Both
businesses
have
people
lined
up
on
both
sides
of
the
street,
so
the
cars
are
getting
kind
of
narrow
there.
G
Well,
if
you
add
additional
parking
stalls
there
or
just
drop-off
spots,
that's
gonna
open
up
that
whole
intersection
in
corner
and
prevent
injury,
hopefully
to
the
kids
or
anything
else
or
any
issues
on
the
street.
So
maybe
it's
something
to
look
at
in
the
future
that
they
would
even
require
the
other
location
across
to
the
other
side
of
the
road
to
do
the
same
that
these
guys
would
with
a
drop-off
site
so
before
they
have
that.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
A
F
Thank
you
very
much.
This
is
in
war
too,
so
I
thought
maybe
I
could
kind
of
lead
up.
The
motion
would
like
to
speak
to
a
little
bit.
I,
really
appreciate
everybody
got
involved
and
working
together.
My
theory
behind
this
was
maybe
that
there
is
some
conditions
we
could
add,
but
I'm,
not
supportive
of
granting
the
appeal
I
think
that
the
parking
lot
is
large
enough
and
that
the
Planning
Commission
got
got
it
right
and
I
would
be
concerned
about
losing
space
from
the
playground
and
I
even
think.
F
What
we're
seeing
here
is
a
larger
concern
about
this
very
popular
neighborhood
with
these
very
popular
businesses
nearby,
and
this
isn't
the
first
time
I've
heard
concerns
about
traffic
and
the
need
for
traffic
calming
and
parking
space
and
I
really
appreciate
those
concerns
and
I.
Think
this
we'll
hopefully
be
motivating
us
to
take
a
bigger
look.
F
I
know
that
there
was
a
neighborhood
community
meeting
Tuesday
evening
where
they
also
talked
about
it,
so
that
the
neighborhood
organization
is
involved
too,
and
based
on
that
I
started
some
discussions
we
already
reached
out
to
met
transit
about
relocating
the
bus,
stop
and
they're
interested
in
that
it
turns
out
for
those
people
who
don't
know
this
area.
This
is
an
old
streetcar
line
actually,
and
so
this
ended
up
having
a
commercial
node
from
back
in
the
50s
and
60s,
and
it
stayed
thriving
a
commercial
note.
F
Even
though
we
tried
to
rezone
it
and
look
at
it
as
residential
on
thought.
That
might
happen
there
and
it's
very
popular
right
now,
and
so
it
still
has
a
bus
route
and
there's
actually
two
two
bus
stops
as
it
turns
the
corner
and
met
transit
is
interested
in
maybe
consolidating
that
and
that
could
serve
the
community
and
it
could
open
in
theory
up
here.
F
I
also
did
exchange
emails
with
the
business
owner,
who
seems
interested
in
requesting
and
applying
for
maybe
more
15-minute
parking
drop-off
spaces
right
around
the
building
along
the
property,
which
I
think
would
really
help
and
I'm
gonna
try
to
talk
to
public
works
about
clarifying
where
you
can
actually
park
near
an
alley.
I,
don't
know
if
you
know,
but
we
have
rules
about
parking
by
an
alley,
but
we
don't
sign
them
very
often
a
lot
of
times
people
Park,
co-op,
Park
very
close
to
the
alley.
F
So
we're
going
to
try
to
add
some
signage
there
and
those
are
some
of
the
things
I
think
we
can
do
outside
of
conditions
as
I
am
making
my
motion
to
deny
this
appeal.
I'll
also
just
say:
I'm,
not
ruling
out
possibly
coming
back
at
the
council
meeting
and
seeing
if
there
is
some
condition
that
we
might
add
I'm
a
little
unclear
about
the
alley
problems
and
what
it
actually
means.
There
are
some
instances
where
we
put
a
sign
requiring
somebody
to
say
right
turn
only
as
you're
coming
out
of
that.
F
So
if
we
don't
want
the
cars
going
down
the
alley
and
using
that
area
to
turn
around
and
we
could
specify
that,
but
that
might
not
really
be
the
best
idea,
so
I
need
to
talk
more
with
some
of
the
nearby
neighbors
who
actually
are
all
old
friends
of
mine.
That's
great
to
see
thanks
for
coming.
Seeing
me
at
work.
F
I
appreciate
your
interest
in
this
insult
I
plan
on
reaching
out
to
the
business
owner
to
Public,
Works
staff
and
planning
staff
into
community
members
now
between
now
and
Friday,
to
see
if
there
might
be
another
condition
or
help
other
ways
we
can
address
this,
but
I'll
move
to
deny
the
appeal
right
now:
I,
don't
have
a
condition
ready
to
offer
at
this
time.
Thank.
A
You
not
seeing
any
other
discussion.
Councilmember
Gordon's
motion
is
before
us.
Does
anyone
have
any
discussion?
Otherwise,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye,
all
those
opposed
say
no
I
have
it,
and
the
motion
carries
item
number
two
is
the
appeal
submitted
by
Ellen
Schmitz
regarding
the
City
Planning
Commission's
approval
of
a
variance
to
reduce
the
minimum
parking
requirement
from
30
spaces
to
4
spaces
for
the
property
located
at
4012
and
40:16
Minnehaha
Avenue
and
we'll
begin
with
the
staff
presentation.
K
Good
morning,
Tara,
shader
and
committee
members,
this
might
be
a
familiar
presentation,
so
I'll
go
over
it
quickly.
This
is
another
tier
Encantada
site
at
4012,
40:16
Minnehaha
on
March
11
2019,
the
Planning
Commission
approved
applications
at
the
site
to
construct
a
new
three-story
commercial
building
that
would
be
used
as
a
childcare
center.
An
appeal
was
filed
regarding
the
parking
variance
that
was
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission
to
reduce
the
minimum
parking
requirement
from
30
spaces
to
4
spaces.
K
This
site
is
located
just
south
of
40th
along
Minnehaha
and
has
c1
zoning.
The
existing
site
contains
its
two
parcels.
One
has
a
single
family
home
and
one
is
a
vacant
lot.
That's
been
used
as
a
community
garden,
as
you
can
see
from
the
site
plan
here,
the
applicant
is
proposing
four
parking
spaces
up
at
the
alley.
K
Initially,
they
had
proposed
additional
parking
off
the
alley
for
pick-up
and
drop-off
staff
had
some
serious
concerns
about
that,
since
the
alley
is
shared
with
primarily
single-family
homes
to
the
west
and
advised
the
applicant
to
make
that
parking
for
employees
only
and
there
were
conversations
with
Public
Works
that
that
there
is
street
parking
on
Minnehaha
Avenue,
which
makes
it
a
candidate
for
having
on
street
drop-off
locations.
Similar
to
the
last
presentation
that
you
saw,
and
so
the
applicant
was
intending
to
request
two
parking
spaces.
K
A
condition
of
approval
at
the
Planning
Commission
meeting
was
that
the
applicant
request
for
drop-off
spaces
along
Minnehaha,
similar
to
councilmember
Gordon's
point.
The
condition
was
that
the
applicant
request
that
we
have
they
haven't
made
that
request.
Yet
we
haven't
had
a
shot,
those
details
of
Public
Works,
but
they
this
is
going
through
PDR
and
will
be
evaluated
there.
K
In
addition
that
this
site
is
incredibly
well
served
by
public
transit,
it's
you
know
within
walking
distance
of
a
light.
Rail
stop
and
is
along
three
major
bus
routes,
and
it
also
has
excellent
access
to
bicycle
facilities,
and
the
applicant
has
indicated
that
many
of
the
many
of
the
staff
that
will
serve
this
location
are
local
and
are
likely
to
take
public
transit
to
and
from
work.
In
addition,
the
applicant
I
can
go
back
to
the
safe
plain
here.
K
The
applicant
owns
the
site
at
four
thousand
eight
many
Avenue,
which
is
a
commercial
building,
and
it's
currently
used
as
a
retail
space,
but
eventually
that
retail
tenant
will
be
moving
out
and
it
will
serve
as
the
administrative
offices
for
tier
Encantada
and
that
space
does
have
a
garage
and
some
other
paved
area
that
could
potentially
be
used
for
staff.
If
the
four
spaces
on
the
I'm
saying
in
question
were
not
sufficient
for
the
staff,
working
and
I
am
happy
to
stand
for
questions.
A
L
A
L
Okay,
so
I
want
to
start
I'm
representing
the
group
of
folks
within
the
the
neighborhood
around
the
area.
That's
proposed
for
development
by
tiara
and
cantata.
We
have
some
other
neighbors
here
as
well.
A
lot
of
folks
have
submitted
their
concerns
via
email
and
I
want
to
clarify,
first
and
foremost,
I've
seen
some
of
the
comments
that
some
of
the
supporters
of
the
site
have
put
out
there.
We
are
absolutely
not
opposed
to
a
daycare
being
there.
We
think
that's
a
fantastic
idea.
L
What
we
are
concerned
about
is
the
size
of
the
daycare
that's
being
proposed,
and
the
fact
that
the
size
of
the
daycare
is
why
we
we
have
the
concern
today
with
the
parking
constraint.
As
the
planning
coordinator
stated.
Sorry,
I,
don't
know
your
title.
I
apologize,
Lindsey
stated
the
the
requirement
for
a
building
the
size
of
300
parking
spaces
are
30,
sorry
30
parking
spaces
for
building
this
size.
L
We
have
also
heard
that
there
is
a
that
they
are
putting
forth
asserting
that
their
staff
will
be
taking
transit.
Well,
I
I
questioned
that
only
in
the
fact
that
their
staff
must
already
have
been
hired
and
have
committed
to
taking
Metro,
Transit
and
or
you
are
mandating
that
which
I
don't
believe
you
can
legally
mandate.
So
that
concerns
me,
because
when
you
have
a
building
of
that
size
to
accommodate
260
children,
you
are
going
to
need
about
50
staff
if
at
the
minimum,
to
support
that
that
type
of
a
daycare
center.
L
That
can
safely
travel
as
safely
as
possible
to
how
many
high
a
Venusian
is
the
right
away
and
safety
for
them
as
well
and
I
did
not
see
in
the
proposal
and
maybe,
if
Lindsey,
you
might
have
it
and
I
just
didn't
see,
it
require
a
request
for
a
variance
on
the
right
away
for
that
bike
path.
There
I
didn't
see
that
there
was
a
request,
and
so,
if
you
look
on
page
I'm,
sorry
these
aren't
numbers
but
bike
statutes.
L
Part
way
through
you'll
see
the
bike
statute
on
the
its
Minnesota
statute.
169
18,
when
crossing
a
bike
lane
to
motor
vehicles
may
only
do
so
once
a
fielding
right
away,
so
was
their
variance
required,
requested
or
required
to
ensure
that
that
bike
lane
was
not
infringed
on
as
well
as
making
sure
that
there
was
enough
that
there
was
a
parking
spots
for
drop
and
pickup.
So,
ultimately,
our
concern
is
the
right
away
and
safety
issues
for
all
pedestrians,
bikers
parents
and
children
trying
to
access
the
site.
L
The
other
piece
of
that
that
comes
into
mind
is
the
distance
between
the
intersection
of
40th,
Street
and
Mineo
Avenue,
and
where
this
site
is
and
I
does
not
and
I
didn't
measure
it
I
apologize,
but
it
is
not
a
large
distance
between
that
intersection
and
where
the
building
is
for
an
example.
If
you
look
on
in
the
back
here,
there
are
some
pictures
here
of
the
parking
situation
we
have
now
in
our
neighborhood,
based
on
the
new
development.
The
new
restaurants,
new
businesses
that
have
come
in
40th
Street
is
constantly
backed
up.
L
Many
Avenue
is
constantly
backed
up,
and
if
you
look
on
the
very
last
page
you
can
see
these
are
current
pictures
taken
just
a
few
days
ago.
There's
a
FedEx
truck
sitting
right
in
the
bike
lane
to
deliver
now.
I
understand
that
the
question
is
the
the
the
proposal
put
forth
is
to
do
for
drop-off
spots.
But
how
does
that
impact?
L
Then
everyone
else
who
has
to
locate
relocate
to
find
parking
right,
they're
going
to
be
coming
down
all
the
other
streets
to
park,
impacting
the
residents
impacting
the
other
businesses
and
I
know
we
live
in
a
city
I
understand
that,
but
that
is
the
reality
of
what
we
are
concerned
about.
I
also
would
like
to
call
out
the
comparison
that's
been
made
between
this
site
proposed
and
the
other
sites.
L
If
you
look
on
pain,
sorry
again,
not
paid
sure
of
the
page,
but
here's
the
picture,
here's
a
picture
of
the
tiara
and
cantata
and
Egon
it
is
in
a
strip
mall.
It
has
plenty
of
parking.
It's
easy
access
in
and
out
of
the
building
for
any
of
the
people
who
would
like
to
bring
their
children
there
tiara
and
cantata
Bryant,
which
is
only
three
and
a
half
miles
away
from
the
proposed
Hiawatha
site
does
have.
It
does
seem
to
be
on
a
little
more
busier
Street,
but
you
can
see
around
the
corner.
L
There
is
part
being
in
the
back,
so
they
have
off
street
parking
there
and
if
you
look
at
tiara
and
cantata
Windham,
this
is
the
one
that
we
were
told
in
the
first.
The
hearing
originally
was
in
north-east
minneapolis
by
the
by
the
chief
operating
officer,
which
is
in
fact
it's
in
south
Minneapolis.
L
In
my
old
neighborhood
and
as
you
can
see,
it
is
a
current
building
again
another
current
building,
that
is
a
two-story,
it
looks
like
it's
maybe
was
one
of
our
beautiful
original
priests
dates
their
elementary
schools
from
back
in
the
day
that
has
plenty
of
parking
around
half
of
the
block
that
is
dedicated
just
to
that
site
and
I
believe
it
also
has
offsite
parking.
So
really
the
concern
we
have
is
this
proposed
site
from
anyhow
Avenue,
which
is
a
small
parcel
two
parcels
that
are
small
and
narrow.
L
The
previous
meeting
we
heard
one
of
our
one
of
the
committee
members
expressed
their
concern
that
the
whole
reason
for
this
variance
was
because
the
site
was
too
small
for
the
plan
that's
being
put
forth
to
build.
So
this
is
really
an
illustration
of
how
small
a
space
is
being
is
being
utilized
to
build
such
a
large
building
to
accommodate
two
hundred
and
sixty
children
and
only
allow
for
four
drop-off
spots,
and
we
heard
the
previous
neighborhood
expressed
their
concerns
for
a
lesser,
smaller
sized
building.
L
I
can't
imagine
that
this
can
be
overlooked
for
a
building
proposed
to
be
three
stories
to
accommodate
two
hundred
and
sixty
children,
but
only
allow
for
four
drop-off
spots.
The
requirements
of
the
state
code
is
thirty
spots
and
if
the
fact
that
matter
that
the
thirty
spots
is
why
they
need
a
variance
because
they
want
to
build
in
such
a
small
lot
that
has
to
be
considered
and
the
neighborhood
impact
must
be
considered.
I
have
been
living
in
this
neighborhood
for
twenty
five
years.
L
My
husband's
lived
in
this
neighborhood
for
38
years,
we've
seen
lots
of
things
come
and
go,
and
we've
seen
the
beautiful
mini,
Hamo
mile
be
developed
and
very
happy
about
all
of
the
developments.
Again.
We
are
not
against
up
daycare
going
into
the
spot.
We
want
to
be
very
considerate
of
our
neighbors
as
well,
but
but
we
would,
we
would
really
be
remiss
in
our
neighborhood
if
we
did
not
look
at
this
seriously
to
say
what
is
the
real
impact
of
putting
that
much
of
a
spate
building
in
a
smaller
space?
L
Do
we
can
we
really
say
that
there
won't
be
upwards
of
200
vehicles
coming
and
going
on
a
snowy
day,
like
today,
everybody's
going
to
take
public
transportation
to
get
their
kids
to
daycare
everybody's
going
to
take
public
transportation
to
get
to
work?
We
can't
say
that
that's
a
true
statement,
so
we
have
to
work
in
the
facts
that
we
have
and
the
facts
that
we
have
is
the
reason
they
need.
A
variance
is
because
they're
building
too
big
of
a
building
for
that
small
of
a
lot.
E
My
name
is
Karina
Zumba,
the
chief
operating
officer
for
Darren
Gonzaga
I
know
some
of
these
items
were
already
addressed,
but
the
Seward
Bay
Area,
so
I'm
going
to
get
to
try
to
address
two
specific
points
of
where
brought
up
right
now
to
address
are
concerned
about
drop-offs
we're
seeking
a
limited
time
parking
zone
to
be
installed
along
or
property
line.
I
personally
120
feet
limited
parking
only
during
drop-off
pickup
hours
on
weekdays.
Why,
while
they
might
seem
like
it
won't
be
chaotic,
we
assure
you
it
will
not
be.
E
E
After
observing
drop-off
pick
up
at
our
locations,
we
have
found
that
the
average
time
it
takes
from
when
a
parent
walks
in
the
door
to
when
they
leave
is
approximately
2
minutes
and
40
seconds.
This
includes
parents
with
one
or
two
children
further
anywhere
between
25
and
40
percent
of
our
families
have
more
than
one
child
in
our
program.
Our
Bryan
location,
for
example,
has
37
families
with
more
than
one
child,
so
30%
in
2018
a
us.
E
Demographics
showed
that
almost
60%
of
our
families
had
two
or
more
children,
so
we're
confident
that
this
will
continue
to
hold
through.
So
instead
of
having
the
260
cars
is
more
likely
170
cars
over
three
hours,
the
average
parallel
parking
space
is
approximately
18
to
20
feet.
Long
with
us
having
120
feet,
we'll
have
we'll
have
six
designated
limited
type,
limited
time
parking
spaces
for
drop
of
dummies.
E
E
This
isn't
taken
to
a
con.
We
have
a
very
large
population
of
parents
of
walk
or
buy
their
children
to
our
center,
so
we'll
be
able
to
accommodate
over
400
drop-offs
when
we
only
need
to
accommodate
about
170
providing
providing
more
than
enough
space
for
a
facility
while
ensuring
we
are
impacting
neighborhood,
neighbor,
Horine
homes
and
businesses
during
their
most
active
times
on
weeknights
and
weekends,
as
we
have
chaired
previously.
There's
a
drastic
shortage
of
quality
Chuck
your
options
in
Minneapolis,
with
even
more
limited
options
for
sites
for
child
care
to
go
to
further
evidence.
E
This
point
one
of
the
neighbors
originally
opposed
to
the
project
after
reaching
out
to
us
to
discuss
it,
change
her
opinion
and
then
ask
about
child
care
for
our
own
child.
Let's
say
this
site
needs
a
playground,
and
the
proposed
site
plan
is
the
best
possible
laid
out
to
manage
providing
outdoor
space
for
children,
while
keeping
a
few
designated
parking
spaces
for
the
further
disuse
is
ideal
for
this
area
that
is
the
most
compatible
for
residential.
It's
closed
on
evening
some
weekends
and
will
be
a
possible
impact
for
the
community.
E
A
M
Name
is
Heather
prosper,
I
live
at
34,
13,
East,
40th
and
I
would
just
like
to
comment
on
the
safety
I'm
a
year
round.
A
biker
I
travel
many
almost
daily
at
high
traffic
times.
A
few
blocks
away
from
the
site
is
another
Spanish
immersion
daycare.
It
has
already
been
mentioned
2
times,
I
have
been
hit
by
either
car
doors
or
parents
swerving
out
to
get
into
traffic.
M
M
So
I
think
that
when
you
talk
about
the
public,
right-of-way
and
the
traffic,
and
when
you
look
at
the
other
businesses
that
get
FedEx
and
UPS
deliveries
on
a
regular
basis
and
shipping
that
does
in
fact
impact
the
bike
lane.
It
does
impact
then
having
to
go
into
lines
of
traffic,
especially
at
peak
times
when
parents
are
dropping
and
picking
off
their
children.
N
Hi,
my
name
is
Molly
O'boyle
I
live
at
39:53,
36th,
Avenue,
South
I,
look
out
my
front
window
and
there
will
be
the
daycare
my
concerns
not
just
about
the
parking,
but
about
the
increased
traffic
that
the
put
the
parking
fiasco
or
traffic
jams
there
with
a
drop-off
and
pickup
will
create.
For
my
street,
we
have
met
with
Andrew
a
couple
times
already,
as
well
as
the
public
works
department
to
discuss
the
amount
of
traffic
we
have
on
36th
Avenue,
as
well
as
the
level
of
safety
with
that
traffic.
N
We
have
already
have
an
increased
traffic
amount
coming
on
our
street
people,
use
it
as
a
three
way
to
avoid
the
traffic
on
Minnehaha.
Currently
we
have
people
speeding
exponentially
running
red
lights,
running,
stop
signs
all
the
time
multiple
accidents
I've
witnessed
on
the
corner
of
36th
Avenue
and
40th
Street
in
the
15
years,
I've
lived
there.
O
Hello
chairman,
my
name
is
Joel
Carter
I
live
at
40
33,
Snelling
Avenue,
which
is
directly
across
the
alley
from
the
proposed
site
and
again
I
want
to
emphasize
I'm
in
favor
of
development.
You
know
anyone
investing
in
the
neighborhood
is
a
good
thing,
but
there
are
safety
issues
and
congestion
issues
that
come
from
not
having
adequate
off
street
parking.
I
think
there's
approximately
ten
businesses
on
that
block,
or
immediately
north
of
the
intersection
with
40th
Street.
O
So
there's
already
a
lot
of
traffic,
a
lot
of
people
parking
on
the
street
and
the
the
referred
to
the
garden,
which
is
like
two
blocks
north
on
Minnehaha,
a
one-story
building
with
approximately
sixty
to
sixty-five
spots
available
for
children.
This
is
260,
it's
actually
four
times
the
size
and
really
you're
not
going
to
have
any
increased
area
to
drop
off
children
in
front,
and
you
know
by
my
arithmetic
it
would
be
like
four
hours
it
would
take
if
everybody
was
able
to
get
their
kid
in
and
out
in,
like
five
minutes.
O
So
a
lot
of
congestion,
many
how
I
used
to
be
a
four-lane
street.
You
would
have
had
a
left
lane
to
get
by
any
congestion,
but
of
course,
since
it's
been
reconfigured
with
the
bike
lanes
and
so
forth,
it's
just
two
lanes
and
then
the
four
spots
in
the
alley
there
was
another
variance
approved,
allowing
them
to
back
out
into
the
alley
to
access
those
slots,
and
you
know
backing
out
the
small
children,
a
real
safety
hazard,
and
all
of
these
would
be
ameliorated
by
having
an
adequate
parking
lot
again.
O
I
Again,
my
name
is
Sheila
Hagen
I
live
at
2455,
34th,
Avenue
I
did
not
know.
This
was
on
the
agenda
and
obviously
these
two
issues
are
connected
and
I
gonna
just
want
to
put
a
word
in
as
a
citizen
of
Minneapolis,
who
also,
of
course
uses
Minnehaha
Avenue
that
it
sounds
like
it's.
Making
a
situation
more
difficult
and
I
would
strongly
encourage
you
to
to
make
the
changes.
I
I,
don't
know
all
the
details
of
their
situation
and
Minnehaha,
but
to
be
more
parking
at
that
space
in
on
Minnehaha
Avenue,
so
that
they
can
have
the
daycare,
which
is
a
necessary
business,
but
let's
make
it
safe
for
everybody.
Who's
traveling,
along
Minnehaha
Avenue
in
it
I
want
to
acknowledge
the
biker
who
spoke.
I
would
like
to
be
good
to
be
safe.
I
P
A
Q
Hi
I'm
ed
color,
I
with
a
30
40,
46,
70,
South
and
I,
have
a
child
that
attends
Hardeen,
but
not
today,
so
I'm,
sorry
with
Minnehaha,
Avenue
and
daycares,
and
the
congestion
that
can
cause
from
that
perspective
and
with
this
project
here,
I
am
NOT
concerned
I.
Think
it's
gonna
be
fine.
The
way
it
is
as
far
as
staff
goes,
where
I
see
from
just
down
the
block
is
lots
of
people
do
take
transit,
a
lot
of
people
carpool
in
large
car
pools
of
cars.
Q
They
tend
to
some
of
the
people
who
are
parts
of
the
day
care
they
live
together
or
live
very
close
to
each
other,
and
just
the
financial
realities
of
working
at
a
daycare
is
a
lot
of
people.
Work
for
daycares
do
not
own
Congress,
so
I
think
that's
one
of
the
reasons
that
there's
less
parking
problems
because
of
that,
as
far
as
congestion
on
Minnehaha
goes,
I
see,
Minnehaha
transferring
transforming
into
more
of
a
commercial
corridor
and
less
of
a
thoroughfare
and
I.
Think
that's
a
good
thing.
I
think
we
want
traffic
to
go
slower.
Q
A
D
R
Chair
thanks
for
having
the
committee
I
just
want
to
reiterate
to
residents.
I
was
here
today
to
observe
and
and
I
also
know
we
have
another
project
coming
up.
That
I
will
be
speaking
on,
but
I
just
want
to
take
the
residents
for
coming
out.
I
as
well
have
concerns
with
safety
on
in
terms
of
traffic,
just
how
many
Avenue
and
so
I
want
to
pretty
similar
to
councilmember.
R
Gordon,
reiterate
my
interest
in
working
and
continuing
to
work
with
residents
and
public
works
on
signage,
on
ways
to
calm
the
traffic
on
the
street,
as
well
as
when
we
have
a
number
of
commercial
businesses
already
on
a
block
trying
to
look
at
the
balance
of
in
the
different
needs
that
are
there
that
exist.
I
know
many
Avenue
has
a
number
of
different
businesses.
You
know
someone
mentioned
Minnehaha
Mile,
we're
so
fortunate
that
we've
got
all
these
great,
antique
and
second-hand
shops
on
mini
Avenue.
R
We
also
have
a
lot
of
dance
studios,
many
Avenue,
which
draw
and
sometimes
well
over
a
hundred
different
customers
at
a
single
time,
and
so
there's
always
a
parking
constraint
there
as
well
and
so
constantly.
Looking
at
that,
how
can
we
do
better?
Is
something
beyond
this
quasi-judicial
matter
that
I'm
very
interested
in
and
continued
to
work
with
folks
on,
because
it's
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
out
there
broadly
and
I
think
there's
opportunity,
I'm,
anyhow
avengers'
as
well.
A
Thanks
so
much
we're
going
to
finally
we'll
take
up
our
number
five,
which
is
a
consideration
of
an
appeal
submitted
by
faerie
Baker
Daniel's
regarding
the
decision
of
the
Planning
Commission
to
deny
a
conditional
use
permit
in
a
site
plan
review
for
a
project
of
47:57
Hiawatha
Avenue.
The
Committee
held
a
hearing
on
this
item
back
in
January
and
is
now
coming
back
to
us
with
several
revisions
to
the
plans
and
we'll
begin
with
a
staff
presentation.
Thank.
S
The
applicant
is
now
proposing
a
mixed-use
building
with
a
commercial
retail
space,
about
Proxima,
just
under
1,400
square
feet
and
has
reduced
the
overall
quantity
of
dwelling
units
from
85
to
75
on
December
3rd
2018.
The
City
Planning
Commission
denied
two
of
the
three
requested
land
use
applications
to
allow
for
the
proposed
project
to
move
forward.
A
conditional
use
permit
to
increase
the
maximum
height
in
the
shoreland
overlay
and
a
site
plan
review.
The
variance
to
the
pedestrian
oriented
overlay
standards
was
granted
by
the
Planning
Commission.
So
that's
not
an
application
before
you
today.
S
The
applicant
appealed
the
decision
and
we've
been
before
committee.
As
you
mentioned
earlier,
councilmember
Schrader
and
staff
has
now
highlighted
some
significant
changes
to
the
proposed
project
after
coordination
with
the
Neighborhood
Association.
That
being
said,
staff
was
in
receipt
of
two
documents
from
the
Neighborhood
Association
this
week.
One
was
a
letter
from
the
Longfellow
Community
Council
board,
recommending
for
stories
instead
of
six
stories,
and
then
there
was
also
some
poll
results
from
many
many
meetings
that
were
held
as
mentioned,
that
land
use
is
proposed
to
change.
S
Here's
a
side
by
side
comparison
of
what
was
before
the
City
Planning
Commission
and
then
what
is
being
proposed
today,
so
some
some
some
significant
changes
to
the
building
height
overall,
just
as
you
know
what
staff
recommended
approval
of
the
conditional
use
permit
to
increase
the
height
to
five
storeys,
seventy
feet
to
the
roof,
deck
and
85
feet
to
the
top
of
the
elevator.
As
you
can
see
in
this
previous
proposal
that
sixth
floor
was
recessed
only
where
the
property
line
jogged,
essentially
along
Hiawatha
Avenue.
S
Whereas
now
the
sixth
floor
is
recessed
significantly
along
both
corners
streets.
So
no
on
Boulevard
and
also
Hiawatha
Avenue
staff
believes
that
the
design
has
improved
significantly
as
well
and
we're
recommending
approval.
We
gave
you
an
updated
staff
report
for
the
previous
zoning
and
planning
committee
for
that
conditional
use
permit
to
increase
height
staff
identified
a
number
of
areas
also
where
alternative
compliance
would
be
required
for
the
proposed
project
in
some
cases
or
recommending
granting
an
alternative
compliance
and
in
some
cases
were
not
and
we're
not.
S
T
F
T
A
R
You
mr.
chair
and
I
just
wanted
to
speak
on
this
for
a
moment,
because
it
was
kind
of
an
unusual
process
in
that
the
committee
had
a
recommendation
on
this,
and
then
it
came
to
the
full
council
and
the
recommendation
original
was
to
deny
the
original
proposal
and
the
applicant
reached
out
and
said:
hey.
We
really
like
to
make
this
work
and
be
responsive
to
the
committee
to
the
Planning
Commission
and
to
the
comments
that
we
heard
in
the
community,
and
so
we
asked
for
a
delay.
R
I
asked
for
a
delay
at
full
council
for
this
committee
to
grant
the
time
to
the
applicants
to
make
some
substantial
revisions
and
also
that
there
was
enough
time
to
go
back
out
to
the
community
and
the
circle
back
up
and
get
feedback,
and
so
it
qu
dose
2
first
off.
Thank
you
to
the
committee
for
allowing
that
extra
time.
Here
is
the
applicants
as
well,
because
what
I
think
we
have
before
us
is
a
substantially
improved
design
and
responsiveness
to
those
concerns
as
well.
R
This
is
a
tough
space,
because
it's
transit
oriented
is
right
by
the
light
rail
station,
but
it's
also
along
the
creek
and
the
park,
and
it
it
has
impact
within
the
shoreland
overlay
district
as
well.
In
that
regard
and
I
think
just
speaking
to
how
this
revised
proposal
has
been
received
by
the
community
as
well,
there
was
a
community
meeting.
They
formally
did
surveys
for
those
in
attendance
and
a
majority
said
yes
to
this
project
with
no
conditions.
R
There
were
a
number
of
other
yeses
with
various
opinions
on
Oh,
add
some
more
parking
or
you
know,
add
more
condos
in
here
for
sale
or
change.
The
color,
the
outside
exterior
those
sort
of
comments,
and
only
one
person
at
that
community
meeting
said
no
that
they
don't
want
to
see
this
move
forward.
So
I
think
you
know
it's
it's
been
something
that
we
were
able
to
take
back
and
get
that
feedback
from
the
community.
A
A
K
K
Only
to
pack
tobacco,
only
product
shops
and
liquor
stores,
and
since
that
went
into
effect,
sheephead
specifically
saw
a
large
increase
in
the
number
of
tobacco
product
shops.
So
when
the
menthol
sales
restriction
was
put
into
effect,
there
were
25
tobacco,
only
product
shops
and
as
of
today,
there
are
52.
So
you
know
more
than
doubled.
K
So
one
thing
that
we
saw
as
a
result
of
this
sales
restriction
was
that
there
were
land
use,
applications
coming
to
see
both
staff
as
a
request
for
establishing
these
new
tobacco
product
shops.
A
lot
of
what
we
saw
was
convenience
stores
that
were
interested
in
splitting
their
store
down
the
middle,
to
create
a
separate
tobacco
only
section
and
then
to
retain
their
convenience
store
on
the
other
side
and
because
tobacco
shops
are
only
allowed
in
downtown
districts
and
commercial
districts
higher
than
c1.
K
That
resulted
in
a
lot
of
requests
for
rezoning
and,
in
addition,
because
of
the
orientation
of
some
of
these
buildings,
it
also
required
conditional
use
permits
to
establish
a
shopping
center
when
the
parking
of
the
building
was
located
between
the
building
and
the
street.
So
we
you
know
over
that
kind
of
year,
where
this
was
happening.
K
We
saw
12
land,
use,
application
request
and
that's
above
and
beyond
all
the
building
permits
that
were
approved
and
tobacco
licenses
that
were
approved
so
of
the
12
commune
stores
that
applied
to
split
eight
of
those
were
approved,
which
was
based
on
underlying
land
use,
policy
and
and
four
of
those
were
denied
and
really
stupid.
Staff
was
having
to
rely
on
underlying
land
use
policy,
which
is
obviously
not
specific
to
tobacco
uses
to
kind
of
make
these
decisions
that
were
coming
about
as
part
of
the
menthol
sales
restriction
so
kind
of.
K
In
that
vein,
we
are
looking
at
some
policy
options
that
would
potentially
give
a
better
framework
to
these
decisions.
That
would
not
make
these
decisions
completely
reliant
on
underlying
zoning
district,
because,
as
we
move
into
this
new
phase
of
Minneapolis
2040
and
changes
to
the
zoning
code,
that
could
change.
You
know
where
tobacco
shops
are
or
not
allowed,
and
so
staff
has
put
together
some
policy
options.
That
would
give
a
little
bit
more
clarity
around
where
tobacco
shops
would
be
permitted
in
the
city
of
Minneapolis.
K
As
part
of
this,
we
have
a
tobacco
tobacco
study,
workgroup
that's
been
created,
which
has
representatives
from
the
small
business
team,
business
licensing
and
the
Health
Department,
and
one
undertaking
that
the
small
business
team
has
done
is
conducting
surveys
with
convenience,
store
owners
and
some
of
the
themes
from
those
visits
with
stores
included
that
you
know
for
some
stores.
Menthol
tobacco
is
a
significant
portion
of
the
revenue,
so
they
have
seen
financial
loss,
they've,
seen,
loss
of
customers
and
loss
and
loss
of
employees
and
a
lot
of
those
stories.
K
This
is
not
a
scientific
study.
This
was
just
a
couple
of
case
studies,
and
this
is
something
that
we'll
investigate
further,
as
we
put
together
the
final
report
and
recommendation.
But
what
was
found
was
that
in
most
cases
there
was
more
average
high
nor
tobacco
advertising
total
and
more
menthol
tobacco
advertising.
After
the
menthol
sales
ban
went
into
effect,
and
some
of
that
has
to
do
with
these
new
stores.
Wanting
the
the
newly
created
stores
wanted
to
advertise
that
they
do
so
that
they
are
able
to
sell
menthol.
K
So
one
option
that
we
had
explored
was
extending
the
menthol
sales
restriction
to
include
liquor
stores.
Their
liquor
stores
can
have
tobacco
licenses
and
they
can
and
they
can
sell
menthol
tobacco.
This
would
impact
all
liquor
stores
that
currently
have
tobacco
licenses
and
would
further
restrict
menthol.
However,
because
of
how
you
know
how
zoning
is
distributed
in
the
city,
it
would
likely
to
reduce
menthol
access
more
in
North
Minneapolis
that
has
less
of
the
higher
commercial
zoning
that
would
allow
tobacco
product
shops,
and
so
this
was.
K
Another
option
was
to
ban
all
sales
of
flavor
to
menthol
tobacco
products
citywide.
So
this
is
kind
of
kind
of
a
major.
It
would
be
a
major
change
where
there
would
be
no
exceptions
where
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
sell
menthol
or
flavored
tobacco
in
tobacco
product
shops.
One
reason
the
staff
is
bringing
this,
for
it
is
that
the
FDA
has
been
considering
you
know,
a
rule
to
ban
I,
think
it's
the
creation
of
menthol
tobacco
and
so
as
we're
looking
at
maybe
what
the
future
that
environment
might
be.
K
This
would
you
know,
potentially,
if
we
went
down
this
route,
would
make
the
city
of
Minneapolis
be
a
little
bit
more
in
line
with
a
potential
future
of
da
rule.
This
would
reduce
overall
access
and
likely
would
reduce
you
finish
initiation
and
likely
would
result
in
you
know
the
reduction
of
the
number
of
tobacco
products,
shops
and
vape
shops
that
would
also
impact
liquor
stores
as
well.
K
This
policy
option
is
just
something
that
you
know
obviously
wouldn't
have
much
of
an
effect
within
the
city
limits,
but
just
to
encourage
them
nearby
municipalities
in
the
state
of
Minnesota
to
adopt
similar
bans.
One
thing
that
was
heard
from
some
of
the
meetings
with
small
businesses
was
that
convenience
stores
on
the
edges
of
Minneapolis
were
most
impacted
by
the
tobacco,
the
menthol
tobacco
restriction,
because
folks
would
just
go
across
the
border
to
other
convenience
stores
to
get
tobacco
products
elsewhere.
K
Probably
the
kind
of
two
main
strategies
that
have
been
implemented
by
other
jurisdictions
is
capping
and
spacing
so
I'll
talk
about
capping.
First,
capping
is
where
you
would
set
a
number
of
tobacco
shops
that
will
be
allowed
in
the
city,
and
this
can
be
a
citywide
number
or
it
can
be
like
per
ward
or
per
geographic
area.
The
number
could
be
more
or
less
than
the
existing
number
of
tobacco
shops,
and
so
wouldn't
it
wouldn't
result
in
revoking
tobacco
licenses.
It
would
just
result
in
the
reduction
over
time
as
stores
closed
of
other
other
reasons.
K
K
It
would
likely
reduce
the
number
of
tobacco
uses
over
time
if
you,
if
we
set
the
cap
at
lower
than
what
it
what
it
is
today.
There
are
some
challenges
with
this.
It
does
require
additional
staff,
time
and
staff
analysis
for
each
new
tobacco
shop.
It
can
create
winners
and
losers,
based
on
who
already
has
these
licenses
or
who
got
through
the
process
before
the
moratorium
took
effect.
K
K
This
policy
would
deny
new
licenses
to
new
tobacco
shops
that
would
be
establishing
if
they
were
too
close
to
other
tobacco
shops.
Studies
have
shown
the
spacing
can
reduce
retailer
density,
and
that's
that
does
impact
smoking
rates
on
youth
initiation
so
similar.
There
are
similar
benefits
and
challenges
between
capping
and
spacing.
Where
spacing
does
you
know
reduce
that
retailer
density
and
it
could
reduce
tobacco
access
and
use
over
time?
However,
it
also
has
the
there
are
additional,
there's
additional
staff
time
staff
analysis
for
each
one.
Similarly,
it
does
kind
of
create
sort
of
these.
K
So
these
policy
options
that
I
presented
today
are
to
expand
the
sales
restriction
to
include
liquor
stores,
to
ban
all
flavored
and
menthol
tobacco
products
citywide
to
encourage
similar
bans
in
other
nearby
cities
or
the
state
to
cap
that
into
the
number
of
tobacco
products.
Shops
are
exclusive
tobacco
licenses
and
to
create
a
minimum
spacing
requirement
America
products
shops.
K
So
the
next
steps
for
this
tobacco
shop
moratorium
is
the
moratorium
was
introduced
on
August,
31st,
2018,
and
so
it
it
can
run
for
up
to
a
year.
Unless
the
committee
adopts
changes
in
the
meantime,
staff
is
looking
for
direction
on
the
committee's
interest
in
certain
policy
options
and
will
use
that
to
create
a
final
report.
And
they
intend
us
to
report
back
in
a
couple
of
months
and
about
June
to
discuss
the
final
recommendations
from
staff.
K
F
K
Are
yes
there?
We,
we
have
looked
at
similar
cities
elsewhere,
so
spacing
state
Paul.
Actually
Minnesota
has
spacing
requirements,
and
there
are
other
municipalities-
I
don't
have
on
my
list
here,
but
but
there
have
been
studies
into
kind
of
this
as
a
policy
option
and
how
it's
been
evaluated
in
other
places.
Well,.
F
P
High
chair
committee
members
I'm
Craig
Weisman
with
business
licenses.
Yes,
that
should
off
sale,
liquor,
establishment,
there's
a
spacing
requirement
that
they
cannot
be
located
within
2,000
feet
of
another
off
sale,
establishment
and
there's
a
spacing
requirement
from
churches
and
school
facilities.
P
F
I
know
right
now,
there's
quite
a
few
around
the
university,
so
I
would
definitely
be
interested
in
pursuing
that
there's
another
option
that
isn't
on
the
list
and
I,
don't
know
that
you
should
study
it,
but
I
want
to
put
it
out
there
for
us
to
think
of,
as
we've
done
with
liquor
and
as
we've
done,
the
flavored
tobacco
and
menthol
tobacco.
We
might
want
to
think
about
future
things
we
might
want
to
regulate
as
well.
We
may
want
to
regulate
all
tobacco
in
a
similar
manner,
as
we
now
regulate.
F
Often
the
you
know,
sale
all
liquor
or
above
flavored.
Tobacco
is
to
adult
only
stores,
I
think
that's
something
to
think
about.
Also
there's
a
good
chance
that
there'll
be
other
substances
that
we're
gonna
think
are
particularly
dangerous
or
youth
are
vulnerable
to.
If
marijuana
ever
becomes
legal
recreationally
in
the
state,
how
are
we
gonna
regulate
that
and
do
Rickett?
Will
we
have
a
model
that
we
can
go
back
to
and
think
this
might
work?
F
And
so
that's
something
I
think
that
we
at
least
is
in
my
mind
as
we're
looking
at
this
kind
of
thing.
What
makes
sense
it
doesn't
make
sense,
and
how
can
we
do
these
things
in
a
safe
way?
I
also
think,
of
course
we
want
to
be
influencing
our
neighbors
to
try
to
do
the
right
thing
or
demonstrate
that
these
things
can
work
in
terms
of
other
jurisdictions.
So
I
like
that
option
and
I
think
there's
something
to
think
about.
F
I
think
we
this
would
be
solved
beautifully
if
we
had
a
statewide
solution,
and
so
that's
something
I
think
we
could
keep
thinking
about
having
on
our
legislative
agenda
and
do
we
want
to
work
towards
that
and
I
know.
We
do
have
partners
in
the
legislature
that
are
interested
in
this
kind
of
thing.
The
Minneapolis
delegation
members
are
themselves,
so
it's
my
two
cents,
or
maybe
that
was
three
cents
worth
I,
don't
know.
I.
U
Thank
you
for
the
presentation.
I
had
a
couple
of
questions.
There
was
early
on
you
listed
a
couple
of
like
adverse
effects
for
small
businesses
and
I
know
that
London
was
loss
of
revenue
and
other
was
sort
of
like
a
commitment
to
remove
their
other
products
and
just
sell.
You
know
to
back
convert
this
Georgia
tobacco
with
those
things
that
we
found
were
occurring
in
the
study,
or
were
those
sort
of
anecdotes
and
or
commitments
from
the
small
businesses
that
we
were
talking
to
sure.
K
So
the
the
slides
that
I
showed,
with
kind
of
those
kind
of
key
bullet
points,
was
and
I
can
go
back
to
that
that
was
from
that
was
from
store
visits.
So
that's
anecdotal
from
from
the
stores,
I
think
that
there
were
some
some
points
in
time
where
we
were
hoping.
We
could
gather
more
hard
data
from
the
stores
if
some
of
them
would
make
me
open
up
their
books
and
show
us
kind
of
what
has
happened
over
time,
and
they
don't
think
we've
had
luck
with
that
strategy.
K
Yet,
however,
some
of
these
other
things
as
far
as
how
these
new
tobacco
shops
have
come
about,
that
is
that
that
is,
data
that
we've
been
able
to
track
through
business
licenses
and
land
use,
applications
and
building
permits.
So
you
know
so
we've
been
able
to
see
some
of
these
tobacco
shops
have
been
created
through
splitting
these
existing
stores
and
I.
Think
it's
only
maybe
one
or
two
that
have
been
created
from
the
store
kind
of
converting
entirely
into
tobacco
shop.
K
U
Bandwidth
and
I
know
that
you
know
this
council
has
a
lot
of
asks
of
staff
and
I.
You
know,
I
wouldn't
want
that
to
be
another
thing
that
prevents
us
from
being
able
to
do
more
important
things
from
the
city
that
we
have
staff
tied
up
in
in
in
constant
sort
of
spacing.
You
know
situations
so
I
would.
K
Share
on
that
that
currently,
when
these
applications
come
forward
and
they
have
to
go
before
Planning
Commission,
that's
kind
of
a
situation
in
which
you
know
it's
a
it's:
an
entire
land
use
application
process
and
we've
had
12
of
those.
So
far
so
12
out
of
you
know
some
12
out
of
I.
Think
30
almost
that
are
that
have
been
created,
I
know,
I,
don't
know
the
the
full
need
for
staff
capacity
when
it
comes
to
spacing
for
for
liquor
stores.
K
But
I
would
expect
that
you
know
if
we
have
a
framework
for
where
these
can
be
established.
It
would
be
significantly
less
staff
time
spent
on
each
application
than
what
we're
seeing
or
what
we
were
seeing
before
the
moratorium
went
into
effect.
Where
there
were
you
know,
step
you
know
coming
through.
You
know
maybe
one
or
two
applications
on
many
Planning
Commission
agendas
and.
U
The
last
thing
is
just
a
comment,
which
is
to
say,
I,
think
it's
really
cool
to
have
that
information
about
you
know,
even
though
the
number
of
individual
tobacco
shops
doubled,
plus
that
that,
where
menthol
sold
was,
you
know,
went
from
being
300
some
locations
to
80,
some
I
think
that's
a
big
deal
when
it
comes
to
you
know,
being
able
to
track
the
accessibility
and
it's
going
to
have
the
whole
picture.
Cuz
I
could
just
sort
of
imagine
like
well.
U
K
T
Carrier
council,
member
Gordon,
so
so
again,
this
discussion
and
this
update
is
sort
of
the
house.
It
what's
been
conceived.
Does
this
the
halfway
point
of
the
moratorium?
Update
is
exactly
what
a
moratorium
is
intended
to
do
that
they're
designed
to
be
deployed,
it's
granted,
it's
a
it's
a
heavy-handed
tool
but
they're
designed
to
be
deployed
to
respond
to
sort
of
unanticipated
uses,
new
uses
things
that
might
have
some
adverse
effects
or
implications
that
were
unanticipated
and
they're,
designed
to
protect
a
planning
process
that
is
underway,
and
so
that's
exactly.
T
What
once
he
has
has
recited
here
is
that
this
is
a
planning
process
that
they've
been
involved
with
the
staff
team
and
examining
this
issue
from
a
variety
of
angles,
so
that
we
can
develop
a
thoughtful
policy
response
and
so
in
particular
we
were
just
looking
mainly
for
sort
of
your
general
inclination
on
the
policy
areas
for
a
deeper
dive.
Obviously
none
of
those
decisions
will
be
made
today,
but
so
that
this
is
exactly
what
the
moratorium
is
intended
to
do.
It's
protecting
this
planning
study
in
this
process.
That's
going
on!
T
F
D
A
You
not
seeing
anything
else,
I
would
I'll
weigh
in
myself,
I
mean
I
will
win
on
the
moratorium.
Use
I
think
that
it
is
a
pretty
heavy-handed
tool,
so
I'd
like
to
see
that
reserved
for
that
for
very
particular
uses
on
on
this
I
guess
the
feedback.
The
whole
reason
we
did.
The
kind
of
menthol
ban
is
to
stop
or
reduce
the
amount
of
smoking
among
youth
and
I.
Think
zoning
is
one
way,
but
not
the
most
eloquent
way
to
get
at
that
policy.
So
I
think
the
ban
idea
is
much
better.