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From YouTube: October 17, 2019 Zoning & Planning Committee
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Minneapolis Zoning & Planning Committee Meeting
https://lims.minneapolismn.gov
A
Good
morning,
I'm
going
to
call
to
order
this
regular
meeting
of
the
zoning
and
planning
committee
for
Thursday
October
17th.
My
name
is
Jeremy
Schrader
and
I'm.
The
chair
of
this
committee
with
me
at
the
Dyess,
our
councilmember
Alison,
tells
member
Reich
councilmember,
Goodman
and
councilmember
Gordon.
Let
the
record
reflect
that
we
have
a
quorum.
A
We've
got
five
items
on
the
agenda
today,
including
two
quasi
judicial
hearings,
but
we'll
first
dispense
with
the
consent
agenda.
Number
three
is
referring
to
staff
the
subject
matter
of
an
ordinance
amending
regulations
related
to
inclusion.
Arizona
number
four
is
the
rezoning
application
submitted
by
Daryl
and
Beverly
Koopman
for
the
property
located
at
25:46
Johnson
Street
northeast
in
item
5
is
a
rezoning,
an
alley
vacation
application
submitted
by
common
bond
properties
for
several
addresses
located
at
Marshall,
Street,
northeast
and
Lowry
Avenue
Northeast.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
these
items
or
day
in
queue?
A
Member
committee
members
like
to
pull
anything
off,
not
seeing
anything,
I
move
items,
approval
of
items
number
three
through
five,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye,
all
those
opposed
say
no,
the
ice
have
it,
and
the
motion
carries
item
number.
One
is
the
consideration
of
appeal
by
Tim
ki
and
on
behalf
of
Sagrado
Corazon
de
Azusa
and
the
Church
of
the
Incarnation
regarding
the
Planning
Commission's
approval
of
the
parking
variance
and
we'll
begin
with
the
staff
presentation.
B
Good
morning,
committee
members,
the
Center
for
Performing
Arts
expansion
at
30th
and
pleasant,
is
a
five-story
fourth
floor
from
the
zoning
code,
standpoint,
expansion
to
allow
for
accessibility
to
the
existing
building
and
to
allow
for
additional
artists,
studio
and
performance
space,
and
you
see
in
the
report
the
applications
needed
conditions
permit
for
height
variances
in
site
plan
review
staff
is
supportive.
The
applications
the
Planning
Commission
approved
the
project
unanimously
with
conditions
of
approval.
B
At
the
public
hearing,
there
were
neighbors
that
expressed
concern
of
parking
and,
as
you
mentioned,
council
members
share,
the
Church
of
incarnation
submitted
the
appeal
application.
The
Planning
Commission
decision
for
the
parking
variance
and,
amongst
the
reasons
for
the
appeal,
were
parking
demands
in
the
area
being
high,
including
the
applicant,
the
Church
of
incarnation,
and
they
also
take
issue
of
staff
findings,
particularly
practical
difficulty.
So
I'll
just
gonna
walk
through
our
findings
and
answer
questions
you
may
have
I
hope
mines.
The
red
is
the
subject.
Property
blue
is
the
property
owned
by
the
appellant.
B
So
practical
difficulties
in
new
experiences
do
exist
with
the
property
for
the
variance
this
the
subject
building
is
an
important
building
to
south
Minneapolis,
the
historic
resource
it's
not
locally
designated
but
still
important,
and
it's
associated
with
the
Church
of
the
Incarnation
historic
district
that
was
designated
last
year.
The
1923
convent
was
part
of
that
church
for
a
number
of
decades
and
designed
by
master
architectural,
firm,
Bertrand
and
Chamberlain
the
period
Revival
style.
B
We
went
to
staff
and
city
want
to
see
important
historic
resources
like
this
designator,
not
protected
and
building
a
sensitive
addition,
as
the
applicant
has
done,
with
a
light
touch
on
the
first
floor.
Moving
the
bulk
away
from
that
building
is
in
line
with
what
we
want
to
see
and
helps
protect.
This
historic
resource
for
finding
to
the
applicant
is
used
in
the
property
in
a
reasonable
manner.
That
is
keeping
of
the
spirit,
an
intent
of
the
ordinance
and
comprehensive
plan.
B
All
note
that
the
parking
account
seems
high
for
a
building
for
an
educational
center
because
of
some
of
the
performing
because
of
our
calculations
for
some
of
the
Performing
Arts
spaces,
but
that
compared
to
a
school
or
a
place
of
assembly
is
often
not
as
high
in
demand
I.
In
reality,
schools
a
couple
hundred
days
a
year
churches
every
Sunday,
and
in
addition
to
that,
you
can
count
on
just
parking
demand
the
area
being
high,
but
not
the
case
with
a
educational
Arts.
Center
ring
I.
B
Also
note
that
the
proposal,
the
proposal
is
meeting
a
number
of
our
bulk
requirements:
Floria
ratio,
lot
area,
impervious
building
coverage
and
the
setbacks
to
the
north.
So
the
applicant
has
really
done
and
tried
to
do
a
sensitive
job
in
building
this
addition
and
just
for
the
Arts
Center.
It's
this.
This
proposal
is
helping
participant
organizations,
expand,
protect
an
important
historic
building,
helping
improve
accessibility
for
an
existing
building
and
not
allowing
parking
to
dominate
the
site.
B
I
asked
the
applicant
to
just
submit
what
well
what
it
would
look
like
if
you
put
eight
or
ten
or
fifteen
or
twenty
ten
or
nineteen
spaces
on
the
site,
and
you
can
see
what
what
happened
is.
It
would
dominate
the
site
by
just
having
a
few
parking
spaces
and
not
allow
for
an
expansion.
This
is
something
that
we
likely
don't
want
to
see
a
lot
of
community
corridor
next
to
a
commercial
node
and
doesn't
allow
for
and,
like
I
said,
an
expansion
to
take
place.
B
So,
finally,
finding
three,
the
addition
would
not
alter
the
essential
care
to
character
of
the
area.
We
recognize
parking
demand
in
this
area
along
38th
Street
next
to
to
commercial
nodes,
is
higher
than
maybe
other
areas
that
have
low
density
residential,
but
the
the
positives
of
having
the
amenities
in
the
area
outweigh
having
a
little
more
parking
on
street.
I.
Also
note
that
for
the
residents
that
that
did
come
to
attend
each
of
these
streets
does
have
access
to
alleys
and
most
of
them
do
have
off
street
parking
spaces.
C
B
C
B
The
current
conditions
are
and
I'll
try
to
find
an
aerial
is
these
images.
I
showed
now
are
not
existing
conditions.
They
are
what
it
would
take
to
build
parking
spaces
that
meet
our
zoning
code
standards.
Those
are
not
there.
There
currently
are
seven
parking
spaces
on
site
that
are
non-conforming
that
are
at
this
back
portion
of
the
site,
but
I
just
ensuring
these
renderings
wanted
to
show
what
it
would
look
like
in
how
much
of
the
site
it
would
take
up
by
having
parking
standards
that
meet
our
current
and.
C
B
There
I
believe
approximately
25
to
30
spaces
on
the
first
floor
for
the
church
here
and
Lake
Country
Montessori
does
have
about
20
to
30
spaces
here
that
the
applicant
Center
for
Performing
Arts
is
looking
to
have
a
shared
parking
agreement,
but
there's
nothing
that
I've
seen
that's
in
a
formal
document
saying
that
there's
that
parking
they're
working
on
a
shared
parking
agreement
in
arrangement
for
there
and
I
believe
they
did
outreach
to
the
appellant,
but
obviously
they're,
not
in
agreeance.
Okay,.
C
C
Like
in
Loring,
Park,
there's
tons
of
cool
old
buildings
and
none
of
them
have
parking,
so
it's
somewhat
unfair
to
say
new
building.
You
have
to
solve
all
our
parking
problems
too.
I
mean
that's
the
bill
form
at
the
time
and
and
we
don't
like
parking
lots-
surface
parking
lots
anyway.
So
I'm
somewhat
confused
by
this.
But
thank
you
for
answering
my
question.
A
D
Morning,
all
my
name
is
Kevin
McDonough
I,
pastor,
the
Church
of
the
Incarnation
privileged
to
be
back
with
us
here
with
you
two
years
ago.
Talking
about
the
historic
district
designation,
just
a
quick
couple
of
things.
We
love
the
idea
of
the
expansion
of
the
Center
for
the
Performing
Arts
I,
think
it's
a
great
amenity
for
the
community.
Nothing
into
what
I'm
about
to
say
is
meant
to
take
away
from
that
I'd
like
to
address
directly
a
plan
to
anyone.
D
I'm
glad
that
the
chair
did
in
fact
raise
those
questions
we've
by
doing
some
realignment
on
our
own
space,
including
how
we
park
and
making
the
changes
in
parish
life
necessary
to
do
this.
In
the
last
year,
we've
added
50,
effective
parking
spaces
without
increasing
impermeable
surface
has
to
do
with
our
own
discipline.
D
We've
just
also
added
a
fun
little
amenity,
which
is
a
bobcat
that
we
intend
to
use
to
keep
38th
Street
clean
on
both
sides
of
the
street
and
and
Pleasant
Avenue
clean
on
both
sides
of
our
street
from
the
edges
of
the
buildings
all
the
way
across.
In
the
hopes
we
won't
lose
space.
We
have
felt
the
pressure.
We
understand
that
that
there's
concern
in
the
community
and
the
neighbors,
who
are
not
only
our
neighbors,
but
in
some
cases
our
members
have
felt
pressured,
and
so
it
was
in
response
to
that
that
we've
raised
it.
D
A
D
D
So
let
me
say:
first
of
all,
we
are
supportive
of
the
expansion.
We
think
it'd
be
great.
We
think
there's
some
accommodations
that
can
be
made
that
were
not
only
not
negatively
impact.
The
proposed
expansion
in
in
the
Center
for
Performing
Arts,
but
also
would
benefit
the
neighborhood
as
a
whole.
Could
I
just
say
that
at
the
time
that
the
parish
sold
the
property
once
again,
I
was
not
part
of
those
decisions.
D
They
significantly
precede
me,
but
the
traffic,
the
human
traffic
use
of
that
part
of
the
city,
not
human
trafficking
thanks
be
to
God,
but
the
human
traffic
use
of
that
part
of
the
city
was
significantly
less
active.
We've
been
part
of
the
growth
of
that,
but
also
the
direction
of
that
portion
of
South
Minneapolis
was
perceived
differently
by
parish
leadership.
D
D
Unpleasent
are
owned
by
two
separate
not-for-profits,
but
I
know
the
church
would
cooperate
with
it,
and
my
guess
is
that
some
radical
to
some
basis,
which
is
a
Hispanic,
not-for-profit
and
owner
of
the
building
on
the
west,
southwest
corner
of
this
intersection.
They
would
cooperate
as
well.
Okay,.
C
Mr.
chair,
so
essentially
what
you're
saying
is
the
city
could
do
something
with
public
right
of
way
to
solve
the
parking
problem
and
it
which
we're
talking
about
having
less
parking
and
more
pedestrian
access,
more
bike
lanes
and
that
kind
of
thing,
and
so
you're
asking
the
Performing
Arts
Centre's
project
to
be
kind
of
held
up
until
the
city
might
or
might
not
do
something
that
you
want
us
to
do
to
solve.
This
problem
am
I
getting
that
right.
That's.
A
F
My
name
is
Tim
Kean
ke,
A&E,
60,
South,
sixth
Street
Minneapolis
and
I
am
here
on
behalf
of
sagrado
de
corazon
de
Jesus,
in
the
Church
of
the
Incarnation,
and
just
to
be
clear.
The
the
church
institutions
to
support
the
CFPA
and
their
work
and
their
presence
in
the
community.
Their
concern
is
and
expand.
They
are
by
far
the
largest
commercial
space
user
in
the
38th
and
pleasant
grand
area
at
12,000
plus
square
feet.
They
are
asking
to
nearly
triple
the
size
of
their
rentable
area
to
almost
36
thousand
square
feet
without
any
additional
parking.
F
In
fact,
they're
going
to
reduce
the
existing
off
street
parking
from
seven
spaces
to
to
the
that's.
The
concern
is
the
parking
we
do
see
that
and
believe
that
they
could
provide
and
accommodate
street
parking
with
an
underground
parking
facility
under
their
new
building.
There's
certainly
space
and
dimensions
to
do
that,
and
it
certainly
certainly
could
accommodate
there
grow
three
and
growth
parking
needs
with
with
that
option.
F
F
F
Sir
Corrado
has
been
here
nearly
30
years
and
together
those
churches
serve
over
3,000
families
throughout
the
day
throughout
the
week
with
church
services,
support
services
to
the
community
educational
space,
for
the
community
on
and
on
and
on,
and
the
the
intensity
with
which
his
intersection
is
is
used
is
well
known
to
the
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
The
addition
of
this
nearly
tripling
of
space
for
the
CFPA
should
make
some
accommodation
for
their
own
off
street
parking
requirements.
That's
the
request.
F
A
F
Okay,
thank
you
so,
and
finally,
the
parking
requirements
found
in
the
zoning
code,
our
well
crafted
they've,
been
developed
over
a
long
period
of
generations,
they're
modified
from
time
to
time,
and
in
the
present
case,
we
are
asking
that
those
parking
requirements
be
enforced.
Zoning
is
a
covenant.
It's
a
social
covenant.
F
It's
a
it's
an
understanding
between
property
owners
that
we
agree
to
reasonable
restrictions
on
the
use
of
our
property
and
our
neighbors
agree
to
reasonable
restrictions
on
the
use
of
their
property,
and
we
all
abide
by
the
same
rules
that
are
even-handedly
applied
and,
in
the
current
case,
with
a
wave
of
a
wand
to
the
most
significant
to
zoning
requirement
for
a
commercial
expansion
in
this
area
is
parking
and
that
that
is
for
the
benefit
of
the
entire
area.
That
off
street
parking
is
required
to
councilmember
Goodman
a
response.
F
The
the
church
has
worked
very
hard
on
parking
issues.
We
have
expanded
to
sixty
off-street
parking
stalls
where
we
had
about
half
that
we
also
have
weekend
arrangement
with
Lake
Country
and
we
are
doing
our
best
and
in
tight
quarters
to
accommodate
the
growth
of
the
church
and
that's
a
good
thing.
So
with
that
happy
to
answer
questions
thank.
G
A
H
Hi,
my
name
is
Jackie
Hays
I'm,
the
owner
of
the
Center
for
Performing
Arts,
thanks
for
a
minute
to
address
this
appeal.
I'm
gonna
read.
Forgive
me
a
little
bit
here,
so
the
Center
for
Performing
Arts
is
a
long-standing
community
based
arts
organization
that
has
occupied
this
building
and
served
the
community
for
just
under
25
years.
H
We
believe
we
have
designed
an
attractive
in
addition
to
our
existing
building
that
addresses
the
goals
of
the
city
and
the
needs
of
the
community,
with
special
attention
given
to
the
shortage
of
art
spaces
in
South.
Minneapolis
CFPA
is
a
complete
neighborhood
composed
of
people
who
come
from
multiple
traditions
and
work
in
their
spaces.
In
multiple
ways.
H
The
proposed
development
would
be
consistent
with
general
land
use
policies
of
the
minneapolis
plan
for
sustainable
growth,
most
particularly
relative
to
the
notion
of
complete
neighborhoods
quote
in
2040.
All
minneapolis
residents
will
have
access
to
employment,
retail
services,
healthy
food
parks
and
other
daily
needs
via
walking
biking
and
public
transit.
Roughly
half
our
tenants
live
within
blocks
of
the
building,
so
they
are
also
neighbors.
H
Our
tenants
use
the
space
at
different
times
of
day,
which
keeps
the
impact
on
the
building
and
the
neighborhood
and
balance
CFP
A's,
tenants
and
clients
consider
us
an
important
community
resource
and
for
many
of
the
local
businesses
housed
at
CFPA.
Our
building
in
our
community
is
an
important
source
of
their
livelihood
because
of
CFP
a's
commitment
to
sustainable
practices.
Many
tenant
students
and
families
already
come
to
our
building
from
within
Kingfield
and
south
minneapolis,
using
public
transportation
biking
and
walking.
H
The
design
of
the
expansion
shows
a
commitment
to
extend
and
support
and
encourage
access
to
Center
for
Performing
Arts
without
a
personal
vehicle.
By
adding
bike,
racks
bike,
lockers
bike
maintenance
equipment
and
a
real-time
transit
screen
to
make
public
transit
even
easier
to
use
to
address
the
concerns
expressed
about
additional
square
footage
added
I'd
offer
the
following.
The
addition
increases
the
rentable
square
footage
by
17,000
square
feet
from
9850,
so
not
35,000
square
feet.
H
That's
the
design
adds
new
accessibility
features
and
circulation
spaces.
This
design
is
not
intended
to
bring
a
high
density
office.
These
are,
we
are
short
on.
We
have
on
waiting
room
space
on
conference,
room
space
that
serves
our
existing
community
one
floor.
The
expansion
is
designed
to
allow
existing
tenants
additional
space
to
simply
have
more
room
to
do
what
they
already
do.
H
We
have
dance
studios
and
rehearsal
studios
considered
as
part
of
the
design.
The
two
performance
spaces
on
the
first
floor
are
designed
for
greater
occupancy,
primarily
on
week
and
night
weekend
evenings
at
a
time
when
there
is
little
or
no
activity
at
the
intersection
of
30th
and
pleasant.
We
have
sensitively
thought
about
the
impact
of
the
neighborhood
relative
to
parking.
H
Yet
CFPA
are
very
well
aware
of
the
rhythms
of
the
intersection
and
having
lived
there,
myself.
I'm
well
aware
of
the
dynamics
we
have
navigated
in
what
I
would
consider
a
neighborly
way
school
start
times
school
end
times,
church
services
on
Sunday
mornings.
We
have.
We
have
worked
around
those
existing
and
emerging
activities
at
the
intersection
by
setting
up
our
activities
in
and
around
that
those
schedules
with
an
increase
in
presence
along
this
section
of
38th
Street
on
week
and
evenings.
H
When
we
expect
the
primary
activity
to
happen
in
those
two
performance
spaces,
we
bring
safety
presence,
it
benefits
the
community,
I
think
in
substantial
ways.
As
noted
in
the
Lu,
a
variant
section,
the
site
has
severe
limitations
and
locating
in
addition,
in
a
way
that
respects
the
architecture
of
the
existing
building.
This
unique
property
has
an
existing
convent
on
it.
It
is
located
along
a
commercial
corridor
and
it
is
next
to
a
residential
area.
H
The
addition
is
seeking
to
expand
that
unique
building
while
at
the
same
time
remain
committed
to
respecting
its
character.
Our
design
team
referred
to
the
Secretary
of
Interior
standards
for
rehabilitation
in
the
design
of
the
addition
and
despite
the
building
not
being
designated
a
historic
property,
as
indicated
in
the
lue
and
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission,
the
expansion
will
not
alter
the
localities,
essential
character,
I,
don't
know
if
you've
you've
had
access
to
images.
I
have
them.
H
H
So
I
just
want
to
conclude
by
first
of
all,
I
want
to
make
a
couple
Corrections
right,
so
Center
for
Performing
Arts
arts
does
not
have
20,000
square
feet
of
land
for
parking.
That's
an
accurate
once
the
existing
building
square
footage
of
4289
is
taken
into
consideration.
In
addition
to
existing
setbacks,
sidewalks
and
community
gardens.
The
result
is
less
than
half
that
number
in
the
and
then
again,
just
to
reiterate
in
the
appeal
rentable
square
feet
is,
is
described
as
tripling
to
35,000
in
actuality,
it's
closer
to
27,000.
H
We
have
conducted
what
I
believe
is
a
thoughtful
and
inclusive
process
of
inviting
neighbors
and
neighborhood
businesses
to
attend
public
meetings
to
provide
input
and
feedback
on
the
design
of
this
project.
We
are
deeply
invested
in
continuing
to
serve
the
community.
I
want
to
be
sure
that
you
know
the
distractions
of
our
neighbors
needs
is
not.
H
Let
me
just
not
just
say
any
more
about
that.
I
want
to
say
that
there
were
Kingfield
Neighborhood
Association
conducted
two
opportunities
at
which
I
was
present
and
architectural
team
showed
early
designs.
I
was
present
at
the
annual
meeting
to
answer
questions,
to
talk
to
neighbors
and,
in
fact,
have
incorporated
a
number
of
the
pieces
of
input
that
came
from
those
engagements,
not
to
mention
the
conversations
we've
had
in
with
at
least
50
or
60
arts
organizations
and
groups
giving
input
on
their
needs.
H
I
H
So
I,
since
we
first
we
came
in
25
years
ago
and
had
an
agreement
with
Lake
Country
school
that
allowed
us
to
use
their
parking
lot
when
they're,
not
in
session
earlier
this
year,
I
said:
let's
update
that
as
we
began
this
process
so
I
have
a
letter
I
can
submit
to
you.
They
are
they
make
their
parking
lot
available
to
us
when
they
are
not
conducting
their
own
activities,
so
I
have
that
letter
and
can
share
it.
H
I've
also
spoken
with
the
principal
the
school
across
the
street,
Hiawatha
Prep,
Academy
and
in
spirit
you
know
he
said.
Of
course
you
could
use
our
lot
when
we're
not
there,
but
that
the
church
also
uses
it,
and
so
there's
a
conversation
needed
there.
So
the
spirit
of
sharing
existing
lots
is
definitely
there
not
to
mention
the
formality
of
one
agreement
anyway.
I
H
Know
the
design
team
looked
at
it,
it
I
think
the
the
complexity
is
that
by
the
time
you
first
of
all
were
on
a
residential
Ally,
so
I
think
they're
I
don't
know.
Do
you
want
to
speak
to
it?
Marissa
I
could
invite
the
they
did
an
analysis
of
it.
I
think
we
get
six
spaces
because
you
have
to
have
a
ramp
that
gets
to
it
and
we
can't
we
can't
do
we
don't
want
to
do
a
curb
cut
onto
38th
Street
so
that
we
increase
risk
of
safety
when
we're
right
near
schools.
I
H
A
J
Yeah,
so
my
name
is
Marcelo:
pin
to
approve
Alliance
the
designers
so
just
to
expand
on
by
Jackie,
said
exactly
the
access
ramp
and
the
turning
radii
of
cars
in
order
to
propose
an
underground
parking.
We
pretty
much
each
half
of
the
floor
space
on
the
ground
level,
and
you
got
to
remind
ourselves
that
those
two
performance
spaces
are
vital
to
be
at
the
ground
level
to
create
that
kind
of
connection
to
the
neighborhood
and
accessibility,
so
I
think
exploring
and
going
further
and
trying
to
kind
of
carve
that
access
Lane.
A
J
A
Other
further
questions,
all
right
with
that
I'm
gonna
now
open
the
hearing
to
the
members
of
the
public
who
would
like
to
speak.
Please
limit
your
comments
to
two
minutes
and
that
time
will
be
tracked
on
the
timer
next
to
the
clerk.
What
do
you,
members
of
the
public
like
to
speak,
if
you
could
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
I.
E
My
name
is
Jean
Richardson
I
live
at
36:44,
pleasant
and,
first
of
all,
I've
been
in
the
neighborhood
for
20
years.
I
have
no
problem
with
the
current
situation.
I
like
my
neighbors,
the
church,
the
Performing
Arts,
the
schools
and
so
forth.
Parking
right
now
is
at
capacity
during
some
of
those
events,
especially
when
the
school
comes
in
the
evenings
and
has
their
regular
parent
events.
E
So
one
of
the
things
that
I
found
offensive
when
I
came
to
the
meeting
before
was
I'd
was
told
that
we
had
to
just
get
rid
of
cars
in
Minneapolis
and
that
people
could
take
bicycles
for
those
of
us
who
are
disabled,
that
bicycles
are
not
an
option.
The
city
needs
to
get
over,
that
I
do
take
public
transportation
and
I
am
very,
very
much
a
subject
matter:
expert
on
public
transportation
in
that
area
and
I
can
say
that
the
people
who
are
coming
into
the
performing
arts
to
those
two
100
space
unit
audience
spaces.
E
The
people
that
would
be
coming
in
would
not
be
compelled
to
take
public
transportation
or
bicycles
at
night
on
Saturday
and
Sunday
night
in
the
winter,
when
those
spaces
are
open,
so
they're
gonna
be
compelled
to
drive,
which
means
that
those
of
us
who
live
there
will
be
in
competition
and
I,
don't
want
to
compete.
I.
Don't
I
also
would
like
to
bring
up
that.
Yes,
I
do
have
alley
parking.
E
That
parking
is
available
when
it's
not
considerably
snowy
and
we
can't
get
into
those
alleys
and
parking
is
cut
in
half
when
we
have
one
side
parking
during
the
winter
time.
So
those
those
things
taking
that
into
consideration
I
do
support
the
idea
of
back
in
parking
on
one
side
of
the
north
side
so
that
we
could
increase
the
number
of
spaces
and
have
parallel
parking
on
the
other
side,
so
we
wouldn't
have
to
cut
into
the
curbs.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
K
I
Cuban
II
members,
my
name
is
Chris
Roche
I
am
president
of
Kingfield
and
also
the
president
of
the
Kingfield
neighborhood
association
board.
So
I
am
here
to
kind
of
do
two
things.
The
first
thing
is
to
say
that
the
Neighborhood
Association
is
supportive
of
this
project.
We've
written
a
letter,
the
staff
have
seen
that
letter
supportable
of
this
project,
as
it
has
been
proposed.
K
The
board
hasn't
taken
up
the
specific
issue
of
parking,
as
it
has
come
up
over
the
last
month,
but
I
can
tell
you
as
kind
of
the
chair
of
the
redevelopment
committee
in
our
neighborhood
association.
We
are
in
favor
of
active,
vibrant
walkable
human-scale
spaces
just
to
kind
of
address.
The
difference
between
parking
and
active
use,
which
is
kind
of
come
up.
K
I
would
reiterate
that
both
of
the
things
kind
of
the
sentiments
of
both
Jackie
from
the
Center
for
Arts
and
father
Kevin
I
think
you've
gotten
a
very
good
overview
of
this,
and
we
look
forward
as
a
neighborhood
organization
to
continuing
to
think
about
parking
and
continue
to
think
about
how
we
can
kind
of
work
on
some
creative
solutions
without
supporting
any
kind
of
specific
ideas.
But
again,
generally
supportive
of
a
project
really
excited
that
it's
happening,
and
we
would
encourage
well,
I
would
say
I
would
encourage
you
to
pass
the
parking
variance.
Thank
you.
G
The
petition
has
been
entered
into
the
public
record
and
just
for
background
is
my
understanding
that
the
overlay
district
is
supposed
to
be
in
a
non-residential
structure.
Well,
I,
don't
know
who's
living
there
now,
but
at
one
point
it
was
occupied
as
a
residence
and
it's
also
currently
being
rented
as
an
air
B&B
there
on
the
website.
There's
five
spaces
for
air
B&B.
Five
things
to
rent
there's
also
a
thing
on
the
website.
That
said,
they
want
to
put
in
two
100
seat,
auditoriums.
Well,
I!
G
G
This
is
an
albatross,
that's
going
to
collapse
under
its
own
weight
and
that
it
fits
in
with
the
neighborhood
is
not
true.
It's
supposed
to
be
a
light
touch
in
redevelopment.
This
is
certainly
not
a
light
touch
asking
for
five
variances
well,
we'll
put
in
a
couple
of
shrubs
in
a
bike
rack
and
maybe
that'll
work,
I'm.
Sorry,
we're
totally
opposed
to
this
expansion
and
the
thing
about
the
church
on
the
weekends
is
they
have
five
masses
now
not
on
just
Sunday.
G
L
Yes,
my
name
is
fran
lahnstein
and
I'm.
A
resident
of
neighborhood
I'm
about
seven
houses
from
incarnation
and
I
would
disagree
with
Jackie
that
we
got
notice
of
this
that
we
didn't
find
out
about
it
till
just
recently
there.
So,
though,
I
understand
that
the
requirements
only
require
that
they
notify
people
with
three
and
350
feet.
Now,
that's
ridiculous.
You
know
that.
L
So
that
includes
a
that's
a
church
and
the
schools
on
the
corners,
marvelous
involved
and
there's
a
lot
more
people
are
concerned
with
this
situation
and
then
just
there
and
I've
lived
in
a
in
a
neighborhood
for
since
1963
and
so
I've
seen
what
has
happened
with
the
church,
and
you
know
we're
right
on
Pleasant.
So
we
see
all
the
activity,
and
you
know
back
when
we
moved
in
there
most
of
incarnations
members
and
in
the
school
and
so
forth,
were
all
residents
of
the
neighborhood.
L
L
Spanish
based
Church,
so
there
aren't
as
many
residents
anymore
that
are
going
to
that
church
as
there
used
to
be,
but
there's
a
lot
more
from
out
of
the
area
it
has
I
have
no
problem
with
Spanish,
but
the
fact
that
it
brings
all
these
people
in
our
non-resident
that
Park
there
and
as
a
general
rule,
you
know
I
think
Spanish
are
more
religious
than
us
average
Catholics.
So
they
have
a
lot
more
going
on
at
the
church.
L
Then
what
would
be
going
on
otherwise-
and
this
is
evenings
and
totally
all
day
on
Saturday
and
Sunday
and
a
good
part
of
Friday.
But
then
a
lot
of
evening
activities
too
so
I,
just
in
general,
brings
a
lot
more
cars
in
in
the
school
across
from
the
church
is
a
Spanish
base
also,
so
they
are
all
coming
from
up
in
the
area
and
they
got
the
buses.
But
you
know
that
you
got
people
coming
to
pick
up
to
the
kids
and
so
in
the
morning
and
the
evening
during
the
week.
L
L
M
David
Tom
I
own
the
property
at
313,
West,
38th,
Street
and
run
that
have
a
business
there.
The
groomsmen
I've
been
there
for
25
years
and
I
have
a
problem
with
the
parking
situation.
Also
I
think
if
you're
granting
that
many
variances,
that
the
project
is
probably
way
over
scale
and
should
be
considerably
smaller
if
you're
granting
a
height
variance
so
that
the
building
can
be
five
stories.
M
Tall
I
think
the
ground
level
if
under
ground
parking
is
unacceptable,
should
be
a
parking
lot
like
the
Hiawatha
college,
prep
school
across
the
street
and
there's
a
huge
parking
problem
when
there's
something
going
on
at
church
when
something's
going
at
a
school,
when
people
are
dropping
off
picking
up
their
children,
the
teachers
from
Hiawatha
college-prep
Park
on
38th
Street,
so
there's
many
times
no
spaces
in
front
of
my
shop.
That
I
depend
on
maybe
five
minutes
for
somebody
to
drop
their
dog
off
and
pick
it
up.
M
So
I
would
like
to
see
maybe
30-minute
or
whatever
the
businesses
come
up
with
restricted
parking
for
the
businesses,
since
Jackie
claims
that
most
of
the
people
that
are
going
to
the
Performing
Arts
Center
are
gonna,
be
right,
riding
bicycles
and
walking.
They
don't
need
parking
spaces
that
evidently
you
feel
they
don't
need
parking
spaces
either,
because
you
reduce
the
requirement
from
75
to
one.
M
M
N
N
N
Events
are
happening
during
the
evening
and
off
hours,
so
something
that
we're
aware
and
I
think
it's
something
that
we
are
going
to
find
ways
to
lessen
the
impact
as
much
as
possible,
and
the
school
has
done
that
over
the
past
decades,
really
just
to
try
to
mitigate
and
kind
of
handle
the
issues
around
parking.
So
thank
you
great.
O
Thanks
hello,
good
morning,
my
name
is
Eric.
Takeshita
I
live
in
4737,
Harriet
Avenue
Council
members
committee
members.
Thank
you
very
much.
The
opportunity
speak
as
I
understand.
This
is
a
peel
for
a
variance,
and
the
appeal
is
based
on
the
idea
that
there's
a
press,
no
practical
difficulty
of
the
site
and
what
I
understand
is
that
the
practical
difficulty
of
site
is
actually
the
existing
building
the
size
of
the
remaining
lot
right.
O
The
ability
to
actually
put
adequate
parking
on
that
space,
given
those
parameters
right
without
further
endangering
the
public
through
curb
cuts
or
other
kinds
of
measures.
So
that's
how
I
understand
that's
right
so
narrowly,
then
in
your
since
the
closet,
official
body,
it
strikes
me
that
there
is
actually
a
practical
difficulty
right.
That
staff
has
articulated
the
practical
difficulty
and
it
seems
as
if
this
variance
would
be
appropriate,
so
I'm.
Here
speaking
in
support
of
the
variance,
it
seems
to
me
that
there's
a
there's
a
difficulty
and
that
the
appeal
should
actually
be
tonight.
A
Q
Customer
Ellison
yeah
I,
you
know,
based
on
everything
that
we've
heard
and
and
some
of
the
questions
that
I
think
other
some.
My
colleagues
also
asked
I
feel
like
it's
appropriate
to
to
deny
this
appeal
so
I
would
I
would
I
would
move
to
deny
the
appeal-
and
you
know,
I'm
open
to
hear
from
other
folks
as
well.
Okay,.
C
You
mr.
chair
I,
just
kind
of
see
it
a
lot
the
way
mr.
takeshita
sees
it
and
I
analyze
at
that
exact
same
way,
however,
and
I
would
support
denying
the
appeal.
However,
I
do
think
they
brought
up
an
interesting
question
with
regard
to
how
they
could
work
with
the
city
and
the
business
owners
and
the
council
members
office
and
they're
here
today
to
figure
out
if
there
is
a
way
that
the
city
can
participate
in
some
sort
of
parking
changes
in
the
area.
C
That's
not
something
that
we
can
do
at
this
committee
level,
but
the
idea
of
angle
parking
has
been
brought
up
in
my
ward
in
the
Harmon
historic,
auto
district.
So
there's
a
similarity
there
and
although
there
might
be
some
timeline
issues
with
when
we
would
be
repaving
or
doing
something
else
on
the
street
I,
don't
know
that
that's
in
the
queue
for
click,
but
I
do
think
it's
something
you
have
an
awesome
council
member
and
potentially
they
could
work
with
public
works
to
address
those
issues,
I'm
especially
sensitive
to
the
small
business
issues
and
I.
C
Don't
think
a
redesign
is
needed
in
order
to
mark
some
of
that
parking
30
minutes
so
that
the
businesses
have
access
to
it.
So
I
think
there
are
some
alternatives
that
could
be
short
of
granting
the
appeal
that
could
help
ease
the
burden
and
it's
up
to
us
collectively
as
an
entity
to
work
with
the
various
partners
to
make
that
happen.
A
You're
not
seeing
any
other
questions.
Councilmember
Ellison's
motion
is
before
us
all,
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye,
all
those
opposed
say
no
dyes
have
it,
and
the
motion
carries
finally
number
two:
is
the
consideration
of
an
appeal
submitted
by
Lambert
properties
regarding
to
decisions
of
the
Planning
Commission
related
to
the
property
at
three
three
one,
one
Broadway
Street
northeast,
and
we
begin
with
the
staff
presentation.
R
Or
to
chair
commission
members
again
this
item
before
you
is
an
appeal
of
the
decision
of
the
Planning
Commission
approving
a
conditional
use,
permit
and
site
plan
review
associated
with
the
proposed
accessory
automobile
convenience
facility
located
at
33
11
Broadway
Street
northeast
Cosco
went
through
a
PDR
in
2015
to
move
into
the
site.
They
went
through
a
large
reconfiguration
of
the
parking,
as
well
as
curb
cuts.
That
process
was
approved
by
all
necessary
departments.
R
Costco
has
made
an
application
to
carve
out
the
corner
in
the
South
there
and
provide
that
accessory
automobile
convenience
facility.
The
applicants
appeal
stems
from
two
issues:
first,
that
the
project
fails
to
meet
the
required
findings
and
second,
the
project
is
inconsistent
with
zoning
and
comprehensive
plan
policies.
So,
first
the
project
fails
to
meet
required
findings.
Again,
this
project
did
go
through
that
PDR
in
2015
Public
Works
approved
the
canape
proposed
associated
with
this
is
just
under
six
thousand
square
feet
or
about
1%
of
the
site.
R
With
this
permit,
they
will
need
to
go
through
PDR
as
well.
Public
Works
will
have
another
look
at
this
project
and
make
their
comments
to
the
applicant,
but
being
that
it
did
go
through
in
2015
staff
felt
comfortable
that
traffic
the
location
of
the
curb
cuts
all
of
those
were
in
place
where
we
can
make
those
those
findings.
R
The
second
point
of
the
appeal
inconsistent
with
the
Comprehensive
Plan
again
Minneapolis
planning
for
sustainable
growth,
is
the
current
comprehensive
plan.
That
plan
requires
a
conditional
use
permit
for
this
proposed
accessory
automobile
convenience
facility.
The
applicant
sought
that
see
you
Pete
Planning
Commission
granted
so
again,
while
2040
may
have
one
stance
on
this
use.
The
current
comprehensive
plan
is
in
place
and
that's
how
this
project
is
being
analyzed.
A
S
You,
chair
Jacob
Steen
with
Larkin
Hoffman
attorneys
and
we
represent
Lambert
Properties
LLC
and
my
address
is
8300
Norman
Center
Drive
in
Bloomington.
So
we
oppose
this
project
on
the
basis
of
inequitable
treatment.
The
fact
that
it
fails
to
meet
the
required
findings,
the
fact
that
it's
inconsistent
with
city
policies,
this
project
has
benefited
from
disparate
treatment
from
similarly
situated
properties,
unlike
every
other
gas
station
project
in
the
city,
whether
it's
new
or
modified.
This
project
has
not
gone
through
PDR
for
this
gas
station
project
before
it
would
go
through
the
Cu
P
analysis.
S
Now.
Why
is
that
important?
Because
PDR
is
the
administrative
process
whereby
Public
Works
staff
is
able
to
review
this
project
and
the
tdmp
transportation
demand
management
plan
and
that
which
will
inform
the
findings
that
are
brought
before
the
Planning
Commission.
Now
Costco
did
go
through
in
2016
for
PDR,
but
that
application
specifically
identified
this
as
open
space
and
when
they
were
asked
in
response
to
Public
Works
his
concerns
that
were
excluded.
S
This
required
a
that
this
was
going
to
cause
traffic
concerns
and
required
to
tdmp
that
tdmp
was
submitted,
but
it
specifically
stated
that,
unlike
other
Costco's,
which
have
higher
traffic
because
of
gas
stations,
this
costco
won't
have
a
gas
station.
So
what
that
means
is
that
those
considerations
and
those
assumptions
did
not
include
the
gas
station.
So
why
is
that
significant?
S
So
because
the
Planning
Commission
did
not
have
this
information,
because
staff
did
not
have
this
information
because
for
some
reason
this
project
did
not
go
through
PDR,
unlike
every
other
single
gas
station
in
the
city,
the
city
cannot
conclude
that
it
meets
the
required
findings
for
the
CU
P.
We
cannot
conclude
that
it
meets
the
finding
that
there.
S
So
that's
one,
that's
less
than
one
per
acre,
which
is
well
short
of
the
policies
which
are
in
effect
and
are
adopted
for
the
industrial,
employment
district
and
further.
This
project
is
inconsistent
with
the
direction
that
the
city
has
gone
generally
with
respect
to
automobiles
and
automobile
related
uses.
The
2040
plan
is,
you
know,
which
is
not
adopted.
Yet
is
a
big,
bold
vision
for
the
city.
S
It
embraces
land-use
planning
in
the
context
of
environmental
issues,
climate
change
in
social
justice,
and
it
is
a
laudable
goal
and
as
part
of
that
plan,
the
city
will
prohibit
all
new
gas
stations.
So,
in
effect,
this
gas
station
will
become
within
a
matter
of
few
weeks
non-conforming
and
because
it's
not
conforming,
we
can
almost
guarantee
you
will
never
change.
It
will
never
shrink
will
never
go
away
because
it
becomes
more
valuable
and,
while
I
understand
that
you
cannot
make
decisions
based
on
those
new
policies.
S
The
fact
that
the
city
has
spent
so
much
time
and
energy
developing
those
policies
and
policies
related
automobiles,
just
further
demonstrates
why
this
project
should
not
be
treated
differently
than
literally
every
other
gas
station
project
that
has
come
through
facts.
You
we're
not
asking
again
we're
not
asking
for
this
to
be
treated
differently.
We're
asking
it
to
be
treated
the
same
as
everybody
else.
The
holiday
nearby
went
through
a
tdmp
before
going
through
Planning
Commission,
as
did
every
other
project.
G
C
S
Absolutely
metro,
petrol
at
2700,
University
Avenue,
and
it's
in
our
correspondence,
so
Metro
petrol
particularly
sees
this
as
a
two-fold
one.
It's
a
existential
risk,
because
this
is
a
huge
gas
station
that
is
going
to
exist
there
forever,
but
it
also
is
being
treated
differently
than
Metro.
Petrol
has
Metro.
Petrol
has
gone
through
numerous
land
use
applications,
including
just
to
rebuild
that
structure.
A
tdmp
was
required
before
the
Planning
Commission.
So
again,
this
is
about
equitable
treatment
and
respecting
the
process.
A
U
Just
wanted
to
clarify
a
few
items
that
were
presented
in
the
appellant
letter,
namely
again
the
the
circulation
that
was
described
is
you
know
a
little
inaccurate,
I
guess
the
access
movements
throughout
the
site.
Yes,
they
would
be
entering
predominantly
through
the
Hoover
access
to
get
to
the
gas
station.
U
However,
once
they
leave
there
that
they're,
not
encumbered
by
you,
know
a
one
lane
a
traffic
row
throughout
the
site,
the
the
the
traffic
patterns
are
such
that
they
are
two-way
traffic
and
in
fact
the
drive
line
that
is
directly
adjacent
to
the
field
facility
is
30
feet
wide,
so
there's
a
little
bit
wider
than
normal
as
well.
So
we're
not
concerned
with
on-site
vehicular
circulation
and
complex
with
pedestrians
throughout
the
site.
The
gas
station
itself
is,
as
described.
U
U
We
don't
anticipate
that
to
happen
and
part
of
the
reason
why
the
field
facility
is
the
size
that
it
is.
Is
to
eliminate
or
mitigate
some
of
the
queuing
offsite,
so
it
Costco
has
performed
a
number
of
expansions
on
some
of
their
other
field
facilities
all
across
the
country,
namely
in
Minnesota
as
well,
and
that's
partially
an
operational
issue
as
well.
They
want
to
improve
efficiency
and
circulation
on
the
surrounding
properties
and
rights-of-way,
and
this
is
no
different.
U
Third
part
that
I
wanted
to
mention
is
again.
This
is
not
a
typical
gas
station
right,
so
this
is
a
members
access
only
facility
so
that
the
trips,
the
the
patrons
are
using
this
facility
are
not
the
general
public.
Furthermore,
the
large
number
of
the
traffic
that's
generated
on
site
is
not
this.
It
doesn't
function
at
a
typical
Costco
who
air
house
fashion
will
say.
So
it's
not
retail
environment.
U
Nearly
half
of
the
trips
that
are
generated
from
this
site
are
actually
business-to-business
deliveries,
and
thus
you
know
the
the
traffic
patterns
and
movements
throughout
the
site
are
a
little
bit
different
than
what
you
would
normally
see
at
a
Costco.
The
staging
areas,
you
know
typically
take
place
in
the
back
of
the
site
where
the
trucks
are
loaded
up
and
then
shipped
out
to
delivery,
and
that
also
uses
a
different
portion
of
Hoover
than
this
access
point.
A
A
V
P
Chairman
shorter
councilmember
right,
my
understanding
is
that
when
staff
first
looked
at
this
proposal,
it
did
have
to
go
through
the
conditional
use
for
the
gas
station.
There
was
a
decision
made
at
the
time
because
they
weren't
having
additional
curb
cuts
and
that
they
had
met
the
stacking
requirements
for
on-site
gas
Islands
that
they
were
going
to
put
this
through
PDR
on
after
the
Planning
Commission
I
would
just
remind
the
council
that
that's
not
a
code
requirement.
Pdr
is
a
process,
but
it's
not
required
by
code.
P
That
being
said,
I
don't
think
that
there
is
any
indication
that
the
additional
gas
station
facility
would
necessarily
trigger
a
new
tdmp.
In
other
words,
it
may
not
be
decisive
in
saying
that
they've
got
to
go
back
as
opposed
in
noting
that
there's
a
gas
station
on
the
site
and
amending
the
tdmp.
So
it's
not
the
regular
way
things
normally
go
through.
There
were
some
external
circumstances
and
that
it
the
whole
project
that
come
through
rather
recently,
it's
a
large
site,
they
were
adding.
P
Curb
cuts,
has
a
sample
room
on
site
to
handle
maneuvering,
which
is
often
what
PDR
looks
at
at
a
site
like
this.
Is
the
internal
circulation
drive
aisles
I,
think
we've
heard
the
applicant
stating
they
have
a
30
foot
wide
drive
out
wider
than
the
normal
requirement,
so
it
would
have
been
preferable.
I
give
it
I.
Guess,
given
that
we're
talking
about
it
here
to
gone
through
the
regular
rule
of
review
on
that,
but
it's
not
required
and
I'm
not
sure
would
have
been
gotten
to
us
to
a
different
determination
on
the
site.
P
V
P
P
P
But
if
there
was
any
substantial
issues
relative
to
the
circulation,
the
access
on
hoovered
the
internal
circulation
through
the
PDR
process,
they
would
be
addressed.
I'm,
not
sure
anything
coming
out
of
that
review
would
trigger
another
land,
use
application
to
be
frank
about
it,
I
mean
I,
don't
I,
just
I'm
trying
to
picture
what
they
would
need.
A
variance
for
stacking,
a
drive
out
of
width
I
mean
they
just
I'm
having
trouble
envisioning.
What
that
might
be.