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From YouTube: June 3, 2019 Ways & Means Committee
Description
Minneapolis Ways & Means Committee Meeting
https://lims.minneapolismn.gov/
A
And
welcome
to
your
regularly
scheduled
Ways
and
Means
Committee
meeting
I'm
the
vice
chair,
Steve
Fletcher
comes
from
everywhere.
Sami
is
unable
to
attend,
so
I'll
be
chairing
the
meeting
today,
I'm
joined
on
the
dais
by
council,
member
Johnson,
councilmember
Palmisano
and
councilmember
Jenkins.
We
are
a
quorum
of
the
committee
and
can
conduct
committee
business.
We
have
25
consent
items
and
then
one
discussion
item
so
we'll
start
with
the
consent
items.
Any
of
my
colleagues
may
pull
these
for
a
discussion.
A
Eight
is
a
contract
amendment
for
electrical
work
for
a
public
service
building
project.
Item
number:
nine
is
an
increase
in
the
scope
of
mechanical
work
for
public
service
building
project
item
number:
ten
is
gift
acceptance
from
field
Regina
and
Northrop
neighborhood
group
for
donation
of
public
safety
security.
Camera
item
number:
eleven
is
a
contract
amendment
with
employee
Milwaukee
for
information
technology,
employment
and
training
services.
A
Item
number
23
is
a
bid
for
20th
Avenue
South
bridge
replacement
project
item
number
24
is
the
bid
for
2019
concrete
pavement
rehabilitation
project
in
the
Waite
Park
neighborhood
and
item
number
25
is
accepting
the
sole
bid
for
a
catch
basin
and
manhole
repairs.
What
an
a
my
colleagues
like
to
pull
any
of
these
items
for
discussion,
council
/
vice
president
Jenkins.
A
C
I'm
really
trying
to
understand
what
the
initial
contract
is
for
that
surefire,
employee
Milwaukee.
We
shouldn't
we
be
employing
Minneapolis.
D
Mister
Endemol,
so
mr.
chair
council
vice-president,
they
have
a
little
bit
of
information
on
this
item
from
our
agenda
setting,
meaning
this
is
going
through
Community
Planning
and
economic
development.
This
is
just
an
expansion
of
the
existing
MPs
MPLS
tech
hire
program
where
the
employed,
Milwaukee
Corporation
is
sending
us
dollars
so
I
agree.
Its
Milwaukee
is
a
little
bit
confusing
as
we
are
Minneapolis,
but
that's
my
understanding
of
the
program
and
I
have
now
exhausted
my
knowledge
on
the
topic.
D
A
A
E
You
mr.
chair
I
do
have
a
question
and
without
our
CFO
here,
I'm
hoping
that
mr.
inner
mill
might
help
in
regards
to
item
13.
It's
actually.
My
specific
question
is
about
the
resolution
underneath
it
from
councilman,
blue
or
Sami
who's.
Not
here
is
I
appreciate
that
we
received
more
CDBG
money
than
we
were
expecting
or
anticipating,
but
I'm
curious.
What
led
to
these
specific
funds
to
add
these
specific
amounts
of
money
to
and
who
made
those
decisions?
E
D
Director
animal,
so
mr.
chair
and
council
member
romasaa
know
the
when
the
notice
of
award
was
received
by
the
city,
the
mayor's
office
and
consultation
with
Council
put
out
a
call
to
existing
departments
that
receive
CDBG
funds
to
see
if
and
how
the
dollars
could
be.
The
additional
increment
could
be
put
to
use
in
2019,
and
so
the
health
department
and
Community
Planning
and
Economic
Development
responded
to
that
call
from
the
mayor's
office
and
councilmember
Gordon
as
she
prepared.
The
CDBG
program
lives
under
the
jurisdiction
of
housing
policy
and
development.
A
Any
further
discussion
all
right,
seeing
none
I'll
move
the
consent
agenda.
With
the
amendment
item
number
13,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
hi,
all
opposed
that
carries
and
we
will
move
on
to
our
discussion
item
contracts
with
Matt
dad's,
Hennepin,
theater
trust,
st.
Stephens,
Human,
Services
and
Green
Minneapolis
for
downtown
violence
prevention,
miss
cotton,
new.
F
F
So
the
budget
for
2019
included
allocations
for
the
ovp,
as
well
as
the
OTP
fund,
the
office
of
violence
prevention
fund
and
the
language
is
here
that
the
fun
was
to
be
community
alleged
strategies
and
that
150,000
of
those
funds
that
were
allocated
should
be
going
directly
to
downtown
programming.
So
the
health
department,
in
consultation
with
other
community
stakeholders,
developed
an
RCA,
a
request
for
application
that
went
out
and
the
details
are
too
limited
here.
A
request
for
application
or
an
RFA
was
developed
in
the
health
department
and
went
out
in
early
April.
Thank
you.
F
Yeah
and
the
applications
were
due
April
9th
and
were
excuse.
Me
went
out
April
9th
and
we're
due
on
April
29th
applications
were
reviewed
and
received
one
internal
review
panel,
which
consisted
primarily
of
Health
Department
staff,
was
conducted
as
well
as
three
from
stakeholders
across
the
city
in
the
community.
F
So
these
are
the
applications
that
were
selected
for
funding
a
mother's
love,
which
has
an
existing
relationship
with
the
police
department,
and
we
received
the
application
felt
like
the
work
that
they
were
doing
was
really
stellar.
Unfortunately,
with
a
limited
resources,
we
weren't
able
to
fund
all
of
the
applications
that
we
wanted
to,
but
in
consultation
with
the
chief
and
other
leadership
and
MPD,
they
did
feel
like
they
would
be
able
to
cover
the
cost
for
the
outreach
services
that
MPD
are
that
a
mother's
love
will
be
doing.
F
F
So
a
mother's
love
proposes
to
do
outreach.
These
are
just
some
brief
overviews
of
the
services
that
each
of
these
agency
per
agency
is
able
to
provide.
They
propose
to
do
work
during
June
to
September
focused
on
engaging
young
people,
particularly
young
women,
in
the
downtown
community.
Late
night
and
outreach
paper
requested
$50,000
and
again
those
funds
would
be
secured
through
MPD.
F
The
green
minneapolis
project
is
another
one
that
we're
looking
to
fund
and
it's
a
very
exciting
project,
because
it
does
look
at
a
partnership
with
green
minneapolis
on
the
ycb
and
looks
at
doing
surveys
to
figure
out
what
young
people
would
like
to
do
in
the
space
at
the
Commons
and
then
going
about
actually
implementing
the
things
that
are
suggested
by
young
people.
So
we
feel
like
that.
It
has
a
very
community
driven
strategy
and
are
looking
forward
to
what
they
might
be
able
to
do.
F
The
requested
amount
is
twenty
five
thousand
seven
hundred
fifty
four
dollars
and
twenty-five
cents.
The
next
one
is
the
Hennepin
Theatre
trust,
and
we
will
hear
shortly
from
leadership
within
that
organization,
but
they're
looking
to
do
sort
of
pop
up
our
installations
and
a
variety
of
convenings
with
folks
who
are
using
shelter
services
in
that
district.
F
Madd
adds
another
organization
that
I'm
sure
we're
all
familiar
with
and
who
is
here
to
talk
about
what
they
would
be
able
to
do
will
provide
their
own
unique
version
of
outreach
which
they've
been
doing
in
downtown
Minneapolis
for
many
years,
focused
on
violence,
prevention
and
de-escalation
and
engaging
with
young
people
and
adults
who
are
at
high
risk
of
being
involved
with
gang
cliques
or
other
forms
of
violence.
Their
request
is
for
$50,000
as
well,
which
was
the
cap,
and
then
the
last
one
is
st.
F
Stephens
who
will
focus
on
homeless,
outreach
for
populations
18
to
24
they've,
been
in
the
business
for
a
long
time
and
have
proven
to
have
high
quality
outreach
services
and
mobile
case
management
for
young
people
who
are
highly
mobile,
are
homeless,
and
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
bring
Joan
up
from
the
Hennepin
Theatre
Trust
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
installation
that
they
would
like
to
do
Joe.
Would
you
join
me
at
the
podium
see.
G
Hi
Thank
You,
councilmember,
chair
and
councilmembers
I'm
excited
to
be
here
to
tell
you
briefly
a
little
bit
about
the
way
that
this
funding
will
positively
affect
the
hennepin
theater
districts.
It's
our
fourth
year
of
five
to
ten
on
Hennepin,
which
is
a
live
concert
series
that
we
do
in
partnership
with
mad
dad's,
Culture,
Club,
Hugh
Swank
and
the
harbor
white
shelter.
G
We
started
out
this
programming
back
in
2016
as
a
way
to
activate
the
hennepin
theater
district
and
surface
parking
lots
for
having
a
lack
of
common
space
in
that
area,
and
we
found
very
quickly
that
we
really
were
playing
a
significant
role
in
public
safety
that
we
didn't
really
know
a
lot
about
at
the
time.
And
since
then,
we've
really
developed
very
strong
partnerships,
working
intentionally
to
participatory
design.
G
Our
program
with
youth
and
adults
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
so
doing
visioning
sessions
with
folks
at
Harbor
light
and
at
youth
link,
and
really
allowing
the
kids
at
Youth
link
to
take
our
mobile
stage
and
to
do
spoken
word
and
other
types
of
entertainment,
but
also
select
all
of
the
offerings
that
we
do.
We
partner
with
ten
different
community
and
human
service
organizations
to
provide
takeaways
in
real
time.
We
also
provide
food
and
refreshments
and
games
and
just
a
lot
of
free
offerings.
G
We
are
also
partnering
with
Latin
G
Abrams
who's
been
curating
a
program
called
lit
voices,
so
we're
really
excited
that
this
funding
will
help
us
expand
that
programming
to
make
a
bridge
between
what
we're
offering
in
public
realm
and
our
platform
with
in
Hennepin
Theatre
trust
in
our
lounges
there
to
partner
with
culture
club
and
bring
some
of
those
kids
who
might
be
learning
the
craft
to
actually
be
a
part
of
a
headlining
act.
That's
free
and
open
to
the
public.
So
we're
really
excited
to
develop
that
program.
G
F
C
Coordinating
Board
culture
club:
that's
the
group
that
I'm
thinking
of
I
actually
in
2015
was
a
mid
tour
with
with
culture
club.
They
they
have
artists,
mentors
to
come
in
and
work
with
homeless
or
formerly
homeless,
young
people,
and
just
this
past
weekend,
I
attended
Youth
pride
and
Loring
Park
and
was
really
just
encouraged
to
see
some
of
the
mentees
that
I
had
worked
with
in
in
back
in
2015,
taking
leadership
roles
in
in
the
community.
They
were
they
helped
to
organize
this
event
at
Loring
Park.
C
C
I
would
say
with
in
append
data
trust
and
Harbor
lights
of
currently
homeless
people
and
they
an
amazing
production
of
what
what
home
means,
how
how
their
lives
the
circumstances
in
their
lives
that
led
them
to
many
of
them
becoming
homeless,
which
was
divergent
from
a
lot
of
the
reasons
why
we
think
people
become
homeless.
A
lot
of
it
was
medical
issues.
F
H
So
when
we
start
talking
about
the
homeless,
a
disadvantage,
the
drug
addicts,
the
criminals,
all
those
entities
have
a
place
and
we've
been
able
to
work
around
that
with
our
relationships
through
the
jail's
matter
of
fact,
I'll
be
going
to
the
jail
when
I
leave
here,
because
that's
important
when
we're
out
on
the
streets,
we
need
to
have
relationships,
those
people
that
are
incarcerated
or
formerly
incarcerated.
So
we
can
get
them
on
the
right
track
and
get
them
in
the
right
position.
H
They
need
to
be
in
so
we
believe
that
being
downtown
the
historical
20
years
of
relationships
with
these
individuals,
we
able
to
get
them
in
the
right
direction.
Not
only
do
we
save
law
enforcement
money,
but
we
solve
a
lot
of
the
interactions
that
have
to
happen
that
don't
have
to
happen,
and
so
we
can
intervene
and
say,
look
calm
down,
I
think
just
this
week
alone,
we
we
did.
We
dis
de-escalated
about
25
fights
that
we're
about
to
happen
in
downtown
Minneapolis.
That's
the
kind
of
work
that
we
can
do.
H
Not
only
can
we
disco
de-escalate,
but
we
can
give
them
resources
to
get
them
to
where
they
need
to
do
to
deal
with
their
anger
or
homelessness
or
whatever
they're
dealing
with.
We
sign
him
up
through
our
program
and
then
at
our
office.
We
call
them
and
get
them
directed
in
the
right
way.
So
when
they're
not
high,
when
they're
not
toxicated,
they
know
where
to
go.
We
give
them
a
call
and
intervene
on
that
program
to
programs
and
services,
so
we're
excited.
C
F
Thank
you
for
the
question
counseling
for
Jenkins,
there's,
there's
two
a
two
prong
answer
to
that
question.
One
is
that
you
think
did
apply
for
general
funding
through
this
opportunity
and
because
of
the
scope,
we
were
not
able
to
fund
them
fully,
but
they
are
working
in
partnership
with
the
Hennepin
Trust
and
I
would
defer
to
Joan
to
answer
questions
about
their
specific
role.
Okay,.
G
G
They
their
program
now
has
been
set
up
so
that
they
basically
have
a
rehearsal
night
and
anyone
who
signs
up
and
attend
the
rehearsal
night
gets
the
opportunity
to
perform
on
our
mobile
stage,
and
everyone
is
paid,
so
that's
really
exciting,
and
then
we
also
submit
a
payment
to
culture
club
for
administrative
fees
just
for
them
to
facilitate
all
of
that
work.
So
I
would
say
that
is
kind
of
the
bulk
of
the
relationship
and
the
contract
that
we're
extending
there
really
the
main
feature
when
it
comes
to
entertainment.
G
One
of
the
things
that
we
found
with
that
when
the
youth
are
able
to
make
all
of
the
decisions
about
what
five-to-ten
literally
is
and
what
that
vibe
is
that
they
do
a
really
incredible
job
kind
of
maintaining
the
peace
on
their
own.
And
when
some
you
know
when
sometimes
when
there's
some
words
that
fly
are
some
things
that
spark
up.
They
are
able
to
really
navigate
in
many
ways
their
own,
because
it's
a
exciting
paying
gig
that
they
look
forward
to
all
year.
G
Around
we've
had
some
really
amazing
testimonials
from
some
of
the
youth
saying
that
in
the
dead
of
winter,
when
they're,
you
know
going
through
some
really
hard
times
that
they
think
about
the
fact
that
five
to
ten
is
coming
back
again
and
that
they
get
to
get
back
up
on
that
stage
and
sing
their
life
that
they
kind
of
helps
them
get
through
the
dark
days
of
winter.
And
so
we
didn't
expect
that
as
an
outcome.
G
They
can
tell
us
what
they
want
and
we
can
facilitate
that
and
it's
a
more
efficient
use
of
everybody's
time,
with
the
capacity
that
they
have
to
work
with
their
youth
and
that
their
time
is
best
spent
really
focusing
on
youth
work
and
making
sure
that
everyone's
getting
an
opportunity
to
get
up
on
the
stage
and
also
being
present
at
each
event.
I
hope
that
answers
your
question.
Thank
you.
Thank.
E
You
mr.
chair
I
think
my
questions
are
mostly
from
miss
cotton.
I,
don't
understand
to
get
to
the
council
vice
president's
point
of,
wouldn't
you
think,
be
a
very
direct
partner
in
some
of
this
money.
You
specifically
answered
her
saying
that
they
weren't
providing
something
in
scope.
So
could
you
help
me
because
I
clearly
then
didn't
understand
from
the
beginning
of
the
slides?
E
F
You
the
question
the
strategies
that
we
were
looking
at
and
the
scope
of
service,
the
way
that
the
RCA
and
the
language
from
Council
were
written
or
really
about
community
driven
strategy
is
sort
of
getting
at
larger
populations
in
the
downtown
community
and
what
we
heard
from
youth
links,
application
and
I'm
happy
to
share
their
full
application.
If
you'd
like
to
see
it
was
really
more
about
nuclear
services
that
they're
already
currently
offering
and
filling
some
existing
gaps
that
they
had,
we
received
I
believe
19
applications.
F
I'm,
sorry
I
did
not
put
it
on
here,
but
I
believe
19
applications
were
received
for
the
downtown
fund
and
we
simply
weren't
able
to
fund
everyone
that
applied,
and
so
we
had
to
use
the
review
process
and
try
to
come
up
with
the
scores
that
met
the
broadest
reach,
based
on
the
way
the
RCA
was
written.
Excuse
me,
the
RFA
was
written
and
the
scores
from
community
and
city
employees,
so.
E
If
I
may
I'm
not
here
to
re-engineer
somebody's
decisions,
but
I
am
I'm
curious
who
wrote
who
helped
to
develop
the
criteria
in
that
RFA,
because
while
I
certainly
appreciate
that
dispersing
a
small
number
of
funds
over
19
applications
that
might
generally
be
doing
this
kind
of
work
downtown
that
might
not
be
the
most
impactful
or
effective.
But
could
you
help
me
understand
the
criteria,
then
that
ended
up
in
the
RFA
and
who
determined
that
criteria
criteria
was
people
policymakers,
people
that
are
currently
in
the
office
of
violence
prevention.
E
F
F
So
to
answer
your
question,
thank
you
for
that
question.
The
RCA
was
developed
by
internal
health
department
staff.
It
was
reviewed
by
procurement
and
our
internal
team
who
look
at
applications,
and
so
it
wasn't
that
youthfully
I
want
to
be
clear
that
you
think
didn't
apply
and
not
have
a
good
application.
It
wasn't
that
it
really
was
just
a
competitive
bid
and
trying
to
assess
which
applications
scored
the
highest
is
really
the
way
that
it
looked
at.
F
It
looked
at
outreach
and
violence,
interrupter
or
peacekeeper
patrol
initiatives,
crime
prevention
through
Environmental,
Design
activation
and
placemaking,
increasing
access
to
social
services,
youth
mentoring
opportunities,
community
employees,
dialogues,
employment,
certification,
education
and
trade
opportunities,
civic
engagement
opportunities,
recreation,
outdoor
offerings,
community
events
and
healing
circles,
and
so
I
think
that
the
way
that
we
scored
them
was
trying
to
look
at
agencies
were
providing
the
most
of
these
things.
So
either
doing
more
than
one
or
doing
more
than
one
very
well
and
youth
links.
F
Application
was
very
focused
on
existing
social
services,
and
so
they
did
score
high.
It
was
just
a
matter
of
trying
to
figure
out
all
of
the
applications
that
we
received
were
very
compelling.
Obviously,
the
work
downtown
is
as
much
needed
and
I
think
that
the
ultimate
decision
just
came
from
trying
to
decide
which
agencies
we
could
fund
with
what
dollars.
E
If
I,
if
I
may
I
appreciate
that
I'm,
not
just
asking
about
you
think,
but
some
of
these
other
applicants,
you
know
like
I,
don't
know
if
Harbor
lights
applied,
but
I
certainly
appreciate
that
they're
everything
that
Hennepin
theatre,
trust
and
mad
dads
and
everybody
is
doing
here
and
the
importance
of
highlighting
that
work.
It's
a
little
bit
concerning
to
me
that
we
don't
have
some
more
direct
funding
relationship
in
providing
shelter
to
homeless
young
people,
because
well
I
believe
that
that
would
be
the
greatest
level
of
interruption.
E
Stability
in
provider
of
services,
albeit
for
less
people,
certainly
than
might
be
reached
and
in
a
in
a
street
event.
I
also
really
take
to
heart
the
the
need
to
create
stories
and
the
power
and
creating
stories
around
one's
situation
as
to
how
they
are
living
with
homelessness
and
the
kind
of
hope
that
can
be
created
through
art.
Here.
E
But
I
I
do
wish
that
more
than
internal
city
staff
developed
what
criteria
we
would
be
using
to
disperse
this
money,
because
this
was
well.
This
wasn't
my
own
preference
in
the
last
budget
discussions.
This
is
this.
Was
the
level
of
money
so
here
on
slide
two.
This
was
the
level
that
we
should
have
been
at
the
time.
This
was
that
level
of
guidance
that
we
should
have
given
and
I'll
give
credit
to
the
authors
here.
E
One
of
them
is
here
in
in
deciding
that,
but
the
rest
of
it
I
think
we
should
have
been
more
intentional
as
to
how
what
portion
of
this
might
need
to
have
some
kind
of
more
direct
relationship
with
a
place
like
harbor
lights,
with
a
place
like
you
think,
with
a
place,
that's
actually
doing
this
work
and
that
we
have
they
are
our
partners
in
this.
We
already
do
work
with
them
as
a
city,
but
leaving
existing
positive
relationships
on
the
table
here.
E
F
You
councillor
pounce
on
all
your
group,
oint
is
taken
very
well
and
as
someone
who
previously
were,
you
think
I
certainly
know
at
the
deep
way
the
importance
of
the
work
that
they
do
and
the
importance
of
housing
for
young
people
who
are
highly
mobile
and
who
are
homeless.
I
think
that
those
are
recommendations
that
we
can
certainly
take
under
advice
and
the
next
process.
A
Thank
you,
I'll
put
myself
in
the
queue
here
and
say:
well,
there's
a
couple
of
things
going
on.
One
is
that
you
know
this
is
this
idea
of
Violence
Prevention
investments
was
kind
of
piloted
through
passed
through
to
the
downtown
Council
in
previous
years.
That
was
successful,
which
was
why
we
wanted
to
highlight
it
and
make
it
a
more
permanent
feature
of
the
budget
and
the
150,000
for
downtown
safety
really
needed
to
get
out
the
door
so
that
we
could
start
we
knew
spring
is
coming.
A
You
know
that
we're
outlined
and
they'll
be
eligible
for
those,
so
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
say
is
that
many
of
the
groups
that
applied
for
the
downtown
money
and
didn't
get
it
should
be
applying
for
the
other
money,
as
it
comes
out
that
that
that's
happened
a
little
bit
of
a
different
timeline
and
we'll
just
reaffirm
the
youth
link
in
particular,
has
been
a
really
important
part
of
the
overall
downtown
safety
approach.
They
work
very
closely
with
MPD
with
all
of
us
we're
at
many
tables
together.
A
In
terms
of
you
know
the
downtown
safety
strategy
and
we
appreciate
their
contributions,
but
I
don't
think
that
it's
a
reflection
on
them.
You
know
in
any
way,
though,
they're
not
included
among
the
grantees
I
will
say
the
grantees
are
all
people
I'm
very
excited
about
in
terms
of
the
the
contribution
that
they're
making
and
it
is
worth
lifting
up.
A
E
You,
mr.
chair,
you
brought
you
brought
up
a
couple
of
stakeholders
and
I'm
curious,
miss
cotton.
In
your
slide,
brief
said,
there
was
one
internal
group:
three
external
groups,
I
think
there
was
were
partners
like
di
D
and
downtown
counsel.
Were
they
one
of
those
external
stakeholder
groups
or
could
you
help
share
more
about
who
those
external
stakeholder
groups
were?
Yes,.
F
Thank
you
for
the
question,
so
we
sent
out
inquiries
for
people
who
would
be
interested
in
reviewing
applications
to
allow
a
wide
range
of
folks
that
we
work
with
Shayne
Amazon
from
the
downtown
Improvement
District
sits
on
the
executive
committee
for
the
office
of
violence
prevention.
He
was
not
able
to
join
us
in
a
review
session
to
my
understanding.
I
will
double
check
on
that
because
there
were
so
many
of
them
happening
at
the
same
time.
F
Were
extended
an
invitation
I'm,
not
I
would
have
to
look
back
at
our
notes
to
see
who
was
participating
in
all
of
those.
We
used
a
consultant
to
help
us
organize
them.
It's
just
at
this
point.
Our
staffing
capacity
is
limited,
and
so
we
needed
to
on
the
expedited
timeline
work
with
a
consultant
to
get
the
applications
out
the
door
and
reviewed
properly
so
I,
don't
know
the
names
of
every
single
person
who
sat
on
the
review
panel,
but
I'm
happy
to
look
at
them
and
share
that
with
you.
F
A
E
You
mr.
chair
I
want
to
point
out
that
I
feel
like
these
kinds
of
funding.
Decisions
in
the
future
deserve
more
conversation
and
more
involvement
from
the
people
that
create
them
right.
So
the
policymakers,
the
the
committee's
that
are
doing
the
work
up
here,
should
also
be
delving
in
to
that
next
level
of
detail.
To
do
something
like
create
an
RFA.
E
It
bothers
me
that
some
of
this,
the
criteria,
the
scope,
wouldn't
apply
to
some
of
our
groups
that
would
provide
more
direct
services,
I'll,
be
it
to
a
smaller
number
of
people,
but
that
makes
them
fall
out
of
the
scope
and
the
criteria
of
this
type
of
money
and
I
would
just
like
to
have
further
discussion
about
that
in
the
future.
So
I
reluctantly
agreed
to
this
today.