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Description
Minneapolis Public Safety & Emergency Management Committee Meeting
A
Good
morning,
everyone
welcome
to
our
regularly
scheduled
public
safety
and
emergency
management
committee.
My
name
is
alundra
Cano
and
I'm,
the
chair
of
the
committee.
We
are
joined
by
councilmembers
Steve,
Fletcher,
councilmember,
Philippe,
Cunningham
and
councilmember
Linea
Palmisano
and
as
such
we
are
a
quorum
of
this
committee
and
therefore
can
conduct
the
official
business
that
is
before
us
today.
So
our
first
item
here
is
to
adopt
the
agenda
and
our
agenda.
Today
we
have
three
items:
item
number
one
is
receiving
and
filing
public
comments
from
the
community.
Regarding
public
safety
issues.
A
Item
number
two
is
to
receive
and
file
a
report
on
data
related
to
the
Minneapolis
Police
Department
traffic
enforcement
and
item
number.
Three
is
a
receive
and
file
of
a
presentation
from
the
Minneapolis
Police
Department
on
public
safety
cameras.
Are
there
any
questions
on
the
agenda
with
none?
We
shall
move
to
adopt
the
agenda,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
and
we
will
begin
by
taking
public
comment
from
the
community
and
so
I
have
a
list
here.
The
folks
who
have
signed
up
to
come
and
share
their
public
comment
with
us.
A
So
we
will
start
I'll
name
off
the
first
three
people
so
that
we
can
get
folks
ready.
The
first
person
is
James
works
and
then
we
have
Pete
gamuts
and
then
we
have
a
Jennifer
girl-girl
Icahn.
And
so,
if
you
can,
please
just
use
three
minutes
to
testify
to
make
sure
that
everyone
gets
a
chance
to
speak
to
the
council.
So
mr.
James
works.
If
you
would
like
to
please
come
up
and
share
your
thoughts.
B
B
They
stopped
me
for
no
apparent
reason
and
then,
when
I
go
to
the
precinct
to
complain,
I
get
charged
with
trespassing
by
the
same
cop
I
that
I
am
complaining
about
upon
discovery
on
their
body,
cam
camera
on
their
one
officer.
It
said:
oh
he's
a
piece
of
s.
You
know
I'm,
not
gonna
cuss,
but
he's
this.
Then
you
have
the
other
officer
who
was
arrested
me
saying:
hey,
he's
driving
this
cotton
car
now.
B
So
it's
a
it's
an
ongoing
thing
to
where
I
had
to
install
front
and
rear
dash
cams
on
my
vehicle,
just
so
that
I'm,
safe
okay
that
doesn't
help
because
they
know
my
car.
They
know
my
plate.
They
pull
me
over.
If
I
make
a
change
lanes.
They'll
change
lanes
I'll
go
back
to
this
one.
They
do
that
and
they
don't
stop
me
so
I
stopped
I
spoke
to
a
lieutenant.
Lun
I
spoke
to
almost
everybody.
I
could
now.
Their
thing
is
right.
B
Now,
they're
driving
undercover
cars,
mostly
the
trucks
and
stuff
like
that
I
literally
called
9-1-1,
the
rep
they're.
The
person
told
me
following
you-
is
not
a
crime,
so
I
said:
okay,
fine,
the
next
one
I
see
I'm
gonna
follow
them.
Don't
you
know
that
they
called
back
up
a
squad
car
to
make
sure
I'm
not
telling
them
so
closely.
Things
like
that
I'm
just
trying
to
make
an
honest
living
I'm,
not
doing
anything,
I
filed
complaints
through
upstairs.
You
know
the
complaint.
Everything
like
that
I
did
all
of
that.
B
B
Something's
gonna
happen
to
where
this
is
on
Channel
five
News
saying
either
a
undercover
officer
was
hurt
by
a
civilian
because
he
didn't
know
he
was
an
undercover
cop
and
I'm
thinking,
they're
trying
to
rob
me
because
I'm
working
I
supposed
to
the
chief
earlier
to
and
or
other
organizations
all
abassin,
is
that
this
harassment
stop
I'm,
not
breaking
any
laws.
I
just
get,
but
even
though
I'm
not
breaking
any
laws,
I've
been
tagged
with
multiple
things.
B
That's
on
my
record
when
I'm
not
doing
anything
like
I,
said
trespassing
at
a
police
station
for
complaining
every
time
I
go
to
there
it's
how
to
complain.
Oh
you
know
the
drill
Hill
here
you
want
us
to
give
you
the
sheet
and
that's
it
then
I
screw
up
I
spoke
to
a
sergeant
Collins.
He
told
me.
Lieutenant
lund
is
no
longer
there.
B
It's
supposed
to
heal,
oh
I'll,
get
back
to
you
haven't
heard
from
so
basing
all
this
when
the
sisters
just
minding
their
own
business,
all
of
a
sudden
I
get
harassed,
but
I
can
see
plenty
of
other
cars
doing
bad
things
that
it'll
stop
them
now.
I,
don't
know
if
you,
because
my
car
is
a
nice
car
or
whatever,
but
at
the
same
point
in
time
once
you
just
just
to
wrap
this
up
the
officer
one
officer
officer,
Simonson:
okay,
he
stopped
him.
He
just
pulled
up
I'm,
not
doing
nothing.
B
Oh
you've
made
a
weird
turn.
That's
why
I
stopped
you?
Okay,
we
argue
I
left
30
days
later.
He
stopped
me
again
and
said:
Oh
your
plates,
don't
match
your
vehicle
I'm
like
wait.
A
minute.
Do
I
got
a
big
old
sign
in
the
back
of
my
window.
That
says,
you
know
the
temporary
tag,
and
this
is
the
same
car
that
you
stopped
30
days
ago.
You
didn't
say
no
about
my
tags
and
then
he's
like.
Oh
well,
you
can't
have
those
places
like
I
said:
I
talked
to
the
elite.
B
Okay,
if
you
have
a
problem
with
that
talk
to
them,
I
will
stop
there
for
about
an
hour,
so
just
select
it.
Usually
they
can.
Let
me
go
just
just
for
the
heck
of
it
and
like
I
said
this
is
the
kind
of
thing
I've
got
to
work
today?
Guess
what's
gonna
happen?
They
follow
me
and
every
time
they
follow
me.
I
have
to
call
9-1-1,
say
I'm,
a
black
man
and
fear
of
my
life.
I
want
to
make
it
home
to
my
daughter,
but
this
is
a
constant
issue
and
I
wish
you
would
stop.
B
It
was
fun
at
first,
but
now
the
novelty
wore
off.
Let
them
go
back
to
doing
what
they
supposed
to
be
doing
and
just
leave
me
alone.
That's
all
I'm
asking
for
because,
like
I
said
what's
gonna
happen
is
I'm
gonna
start
protecting
myself.
I
have
a
to
protect
myself
and
sometimes
not
get
hurt
I'm
a
u.s.
veteran
they
mark.
They
mock
me
as
a
veteran
I
had
that
on
video
they
say
the
army
must
be
real,
proud
of
you
when
we're
in
the
argument
stuff,
like
that.
B
First
of
all,
why
you
arguing
with
me,
causing
a
scene
and
then
say
I'm
gonna
arrest,
you
for
disorderly
conduct
when
I'm
talking
the
same
way
that
you're
talking
these
are
officers
of
the
third
Precinct
I
have
no
other
problem
with
other
precincts.
It's
just
our
PC.
Every
I
can
go
to
st.
Paul
wherever
they
followed
me
from
Minneapolis
to
University
Avenue
from
University
Avenue,
all
the
way
to
rich
Hill.
So
what
we
say
we
said
okay
well,
since
they
follow
us,
we're
gonna,
give
them
a
show.
This
is
when
all
the
lights
was.
B
The
Christmas
lights
was
up,
so
we
took
them.
We
just
drove
by
the
Christmas
lights
and
then,
when
we
got
to
Richfield,
we
knew
what
they
was
doing
as
soon
as
we
turn
we
start
pointing
laughing
because
then
they
would
they
were.
You
know
in
a
little
more
the
thing
or
whatever,
like
that,
like
I
said
I'm,
just
one
person:
okay,
I'm,
a
military,
brat,
military,
veteran
and
everything
most
people
like
me.
They
they
don't
know
how
to
deal
with
the
situation.
B
B
If
you
guys
aren't
going
to
protect
me,
then
I
have
no
other
recourse,
but
to
protect
myself
and
these
undercover
cops
and
follow
me
if
they
get
hurt
because
they
don't
identify
themselves,
I
even
give
them
chances,
and
so
I
will
pull
over.
So
that
don't
pull
over
to
talk
to
me.
They
do
nothing.
So
just
keep
going
up.
I'm
gonna
see
this
as
a
threat,
and,
if
that's
the,
that
is
how
you
guys
want
to
take
it.
B
A
Thank
you,
and
you
did
note
that
the
chief
is
here
and
so
I'm
sure
he'll
have
his
staff
connect
with
you.
We
also
have
the
mayor's
office
represented
by
Miss
Jen
white
here,
who
can
also
try
to
connect
with
you
and
I've,
taken
down,
notes
here
and
reached
up
to
a
couple
of
departments,
as
you
were
speaking.
So
thank
you
for
being
here.
Mr.
Pete
Gammy's,
followed
by
Jennifer
grillak.
C
Hello,
I'm,
cher
Cano
and
the
fellow
members
of
the
committee,
I'm,
Pete,
Bell,
modest
and
I-
am
part
of
the
racial
justice
Network
and
we're
here
today
to
demand
a
moratorium
monthly
stops
for
equipment
violations
due
to
the
large
disparities
that
occur
based
on
publicly
available
data,
that's
on
NPD
sites.
So
thank
you,
chief
for
making
that
data
available.
If
you
are
black
you're
six
times
more
likely
to
be
pulled
over
for
an
equipment
violation
and
then
once
you
pulled
over
you're
three
times
more
likely
to
be
searched
as
a
result
of
that
stop.
C
C
You
know
for
in
relation
to
these
stats
and
to
people
in
this
room,
it's
more
than
stats.
It's
their
lived
experiences,
it's
something
that
they
have
to
face
throughout
their
life
because
of
the
color
of
their
skin,
and
so,
as
a
result,
we've
invited
people
from
the
community
to
share
their
experiences
and
the
impact
that
this
has
had
on
their
life
and
you'll.
C
They
could
acknowledge
the
trauma
that
this
inflicts
on
communities,
this
type
of
policing,
how
it
arose,
trust
between
the
community
and
the
police
and
hopefully
suggest
alternatives,
or
they
could
take
the
approach
of
using
their
time
to
justify
this
type
of
policing,
potentially
even
use
fear
of
crime,
to
sway
your
opinions
and
not
produce
any
alternatives
and
I
hope
they
choose
the
former,
because
the
fear
is
kind
of
what
we
hear
in
national
politics
like.
If,
if
you
don't
build
this
wall,
we
will
be
overrun
by
criminals
in
this
country.
C
What
I
would
like
to
end
with
is
a
quote
from
Stacey
Abrams
from
her
speech
last
night
after
the
State
of
the
Union
address,
we
fought
didn't
crow
with
the
Civil
Rights
Act
and
the
Voting
Rights
Act.
Yet
we
continue
to
confront
racism
from
our
past
and
in
our
presence,
which
is
why
we
must
hold
everyone
from
the
highest
offices
to
our
own
families,
accountable
for
racist
words
and
deeds
and
call
racism
what
it
is
wrong.
A
D
My
name
is
Jennifer
Gilreath
and
I've
been
living
in
south
Minneapolis
as
a
home
owner
for
over
16
years
in
the
Phillips
neighborhood
right
off
of
Lake
Street
and
the
Chicago
area,
so
I'm
very
familiar
with
the
police
over
there
and
have
witnessed
many
different
interactions.
They've
had
with
people
in
our
neighborhood
most
of
them.
The
majority
of
them
have
not
been
good
interactions.
D
My
first
time
that
I
had
an
interaction
with
the
police
was
at
a
gas
station
where
I
was
pumping
gas
and
all
of
a
sudden,
a
bunch
of
cops,
came
and
surrounded
my
car
and
the
car.
Next
to
me,
because
there
were
youth
in
that
car
and
they
had
their
guns
out
and
we're
going
after
those
youth.
It
turns
out
they
had
done
being
wrong.
That
was
my
first
interaction.
When
I
was
a
student
at
the
U.
D
Someone
came
that
police
came
and
towed
her
car
one
day,
because
apparently
someone
had
driven
her
car
and
got
into
a
car
accident
with
it.
We
went
out
and
we're
telling
the
police
who
you
know
that
was
not
her.
You
know,
please
don't
tow
her
car
she's
unlimited,
you
know
budget
income.
She
cannot
afford
this.
You
know,
please
don't
do
that.
D
Let
us
sort
it
out,
give
us
time,
nope
towed
the
car
and
she
had
done
nothing
wrong
and
that's
not
an
equipment
violation,
but
that's
just
another
example
and,
as
Pete
had
said,
the
stats
speak
for
themselves.
We
also
put
out
a
survey
we
had
over
a
hundred
responses.
We
called
and
talked
to
different
people.
We
have
emailed
with
different
people
we've
heard
repeatedly
over
and
over
similar
of
what
James
has
told
you
today
similar.
D
It
was
even
noted
in
that
mediation
agreement
in
2003
that
racial
profiling
was
a
problem
then,
and
the
police
were
supposed
to
work
on
it
and
fix
it
well
years
later.
What
is
it?
16
years
later,
we
still
have
the
same
problem
going
on.
That
has
not
changed
it's
time
to
to
change.
Something
needs
to
be
done
and
that's
why
they're
asking
you,
because
you
are,
that
is
your
committee
oversight
of
police
policies
and
services.
You
have
the
power
to
influence.
You
have
the
power
to
make
change
to
do
something.
D
E
Good
morning
I
guess
you
could
say
I'm
celebrating
50
years
and
you're
from
your
town.
I'm
not
from
here
I,
have
a
very
extensive
driving
record,
but
I
kind
of
don't
get
it
in
a
sense.
I
have
a
lot
of
violations
for
no
license
plate
light,
but
then
they
should've
gave
me
a
ticket
for
the
duct
tape
on
my
window.
Maybe,
but
they
didn't,
my
husband
got
a
DWI
on
my
car.
I
got
pulled
over
more
for
being
him
than
I
did
for
being
me,
he's
six
five
on
five.
E
Four
I
don't
sit
that
high,
but
I
got
pulled
over
a
lot.
Oh,
we
thought
you
were
Tracey.
We
thought
you
were
Tracey,
but
once
I
got
a
ticket
for
speeding
and
I
got
a
lot
of
tickets
for
speeding,
but
I
kind
of
want
to
know.
If
y'all
can
help
me
with
this
ticket,
because
I
live
in
the
state
of
Minnesota
and
I
got
a
ticket
in
1998
in
Wisconsin
that
I
had
to
pay
in
the
state
of
Minnesota
to
drive
here
and
I
got
it
back
and
they're
telling
me
that
I
didn't
pay.
E
It
so
can
y'all
tell
me
who
I'm
supposed
to
call
and
ask
that
I
really
paid
his
ticket,
cuz
I
know
I
did
and
I
don't
have
a
receipt
from
1998
and
I'm.
Really
not
gonna
pay
it
again
and
they
pulled
my
husband
over
and
woke
him
up
and
gave
him
a
seatbelt
ticket
when
we
were
stopped
and
I
thought
wow
and
he
didn't
even
he
was
pissed.
E
F
How
you
guys
doing
today,
it's
pastor
John
with
grace
in
the
City
Church,
on
a
different
note
on
a
different
issue,
which
is
not
an
issue.
I
just
want
to
talk
about
the
relationship
that
we
do
have
with
the
Minneapolis
Police
Department.
We
work
in
collaboration
with
them
each
and
every
day
as
sergeant
grant
Snider
offices
at
our
church
at
the
Grace
in
the
city.
We
have
a
ministry
that
we
have
that's
open
six
days
a
week
ten
hours
a
day
that
feeds
every
single
person
and
gives
them
drink
every
single
day
for
free.
F
So
I
want
to
tell
you
that
the
work
that's
being
done
between
the
the
collaboration
work,
that's
being
done
with
the
police
department
and
the
the
community
and
Public
Safety
is
awesome
from
our
standpoint.
I.
Don't
really
know
about
these
other
issues,
which
I'm
sure
are
real
and
I
get
it
and
I
hear
it
and
I
see
some
of
it
in
the
city,
but
at
the
same
time,
I
also
see
a
huge
care
from
the
chief's
office
and
the
mayor's
office
and
the
police
department
themselves,
as
we
as
it
was
put
into
action
last
week.
F
As
we
had
the
sheriff
going
out
with
us
and
the
MPD
going
out
with
us
and
taking
people
provisions
from
all
over
the
city,
and
also
we
had
people
that
were
picked
up
and
and
and
brought
to
the
hospital
because
of
danger
being
out
in
the
cold,
so
I
see
a
huge
care
for
the
people
in
the
city
and
I
see
this
work
being
done
together.
So
I
don't
want
it
to
just
want
everything
to
be
negative.
I
want
there
to
be
positive
and
that's
what
I'm
looking
for
is
positive
and
I.
Look
to
the.
F
They'll
start
to
listen
to
you
and
they'll
eventually
want
to
get
off
the
street
and
we
could
put
them
in
the
treatment
and
and
and
get
them
off
the
street,
help
them
with
housing,
help
them
with
employment.
We
have
a
quite
a
few
people
that
we
partner
with
with
Youthlink
and
platinum
staffing
and
st.
Vincent
DePaul,
so
I
mean
there's
so
many
things
that
are
going
on
that
are
posited.
F
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
up
to
you
guys
too,
so
you
know
that
from
a
public
safety
standpoint
we're
actually
reaching
and
doing
a
lot
of
work
in
the
city
with
the
Sheriff's
Department
with
the
police
department,
especially
with
with
Chief
Rondo
and
the
mayor
and
Sergeant
Schneider,
and
it's
it's
making
an
impact.
I
mean
people
are
coming
in
and
and
people
are
actually
starting
to
change.
People
are
going
in
to
treatment.
People
are
getting
off
the
street
and
it's
nice
to
see
so
I
just
wanted
to.
F
Let
you
guys
know
that
from
that
standpoint,
there's
a
lot
of
positive
going
on
in
in
the
facility
that
we
have
and
we're
there,
and
you
can
send
people
there
every
single
day
that
we
people
will
get
fed.
That's
that's
a
big
deal,
so
thank
you.
I
appreciate
you
guys
and
I
appreciate
the
work
that
sergeants
nighters
doing.
Thank.
G
I'm
Camille
gage,
a
nurse
asked
to
come
and
speak
today
on
the
issue
of
homelessness
and
partnerships
that
we've
had
with
the
police
and
I
want
to
also
say
a
stand
in
solidarity
with
the
people
that
are
here.
I
didn't
realize
that
this
was
happening,
but
I
understand
the
problem
and
support
what
they're
saying
as
well.
That
said,
as
you
know,
I've
worked
at
the
Franklin
Hiawatha
encampment
and
now
somewhat
involved
with
the
navigation,
Center
and
so
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
understood
just
the
value
that
the
police
have
brought
to
the
process.
G
It's
a
really
difficult
thing
dealing
with
people
that
are
very
vulnerable
who
are
homeless,
have
addiction
issues
and
there's
often
violence
and
a
lot
of
conflict
and
officers
that
we
worked
with
in
the
encampment
and
continue
to
work
with
we're
really
good
at
de-escalation
at
just
meeting
people
where
they
were
believe
it
or
not.
I
mean
sergeant.
Schneider
is
pretty
amazing
in
that
way,
and
so
I
just
am
here
to
speak
to
the
positive
that
there
are
some
good
things
happening
with
the
police
in
our
community
and
clearly
we
would
not
have
been
successful.
G
Moving
the
encampment
to
the
navigation
center
without
the
involvement
of
the
Minneapolis
police.
It
just
wouldn't
have
happened.
The
relationships
that
a
few
of
the
officers
built
with
the
homeless
people
in
the
weeks
leading
up
to
that
time
were
invaluable.
So
that's
what
I'm
here
to
speak
to
and
thanks
for
your
time.
Thank.
H
I
Gwen
Gunter
couldn't
make
it,
but
she
sent
an
email
for
me
to
read
so
I
read
that
on
her
time,
okay
I'm
having
a
problem
with
people
saying
that
the
police
department
is
putting
the
fear
of
crime
and
people
here
that
there
is
a
fear
we
just
had
a
bus
driver
shot
yesterday
in
front
of
a
child.
We
just
had
a
Somali
male
sitting
in
his
car
shot
in
his
head
that
took
his
eye
out.
I
Last
year
alone,
we
have
241
shot
27
dead,
so
there
is
a
fear
climb
and
we
don't
ever
call
a
moratorium
on
crime
in
this
room.
The
community
don't
come
out.
These
same
faces
come
out
for
everything
to
attack
the
police,
but
we
don't
ever
come
out
and
have
the
council
hold
a
meeting
on
the
gun?
Violence
in
our
community.
Ask
yourself
why
that's
going
on?
What's
the
real
endgame
here,
I
know,
most
of
you
ran
on
police
reforms.
I
don't
have
problem
with
that,
because
the
police
do
need
to
be
before.
I
But
what
I
have
a
problem
with
is
when
they
are
trying
to
do
things
right,
you
take
every
tool
away
from
them.
You
took
Lord
King
that
led
to
no
don't
Louie
the
ring.
So
what
do
we
have
in
North
Minneapolis
West
Broadway?
They
hang
out,
they
shoot
nice,
they
sell,
stolen
goods.
Drugs
comes
in
from
our
kids,
arguing
looking
in
the
parking
lots
that
turn
into
fights
and
get
shots
fired.
I
I
That
they're
on
and
I
say
this
from
my
heart.
Y'all
know:
I
come
and
I
only
challenge
you
on
those
type
of
safety
issues
and
our
community.
They
love
to
come
and
speak
on
behalf
of
black
people.
Driving
white
black
I
would
like.
If
you're
gonna
have
a
moratorium,
have
it
include
if
the
cops
give
them
fix
it,
give
them
fix
the
tickets
and
they're,
just
like
every
other
pot
of
money
that
you
find
help
them
fix
that,
because
a
lot
of
it
is
I
can't
afford
to
fix
it.
I
A
lot
of
it
is
that,
but
when
I
looked
at
the
stats,
they're,
not
even
getting
tickets
for
that
they're
getting
advised,
but
I
don't
want
them
to
get
stopped
again.
So
let's
come
up
with
a
pot
of
money,
so
help
them
fix
it,
and
then
they
bring
it
right
to
the
precinct,
show
that
it's
been
fixed
and
we're
done
with
that
I'm.
Just
asking
you
to
find
out
what
your
end
game
is,
because
it's
really
not
helping
us
in
our
community
and
then
here's
grants.
I
She
said
my
name
is
Gwen
Gunther.
She
lives
at
3350,
Xerxes
Avenue,
North
I
am
a
retired.
Lieutenant
from
MPD
I
have
lived
in
Minneapolis
for
30
years.
First
I
want
to
congratulate
the
council
for
talking
about
the
number
of
disproportionate
number
of
Bronski
and
people
being
stopped.
I
have
been
one
of
those
brown-skinned
people.
Many
times,
however,
I
feel
like
doing
away
with
traffic
stops
is
an
overreach
traffic
stops
lead
to
major
Intel
and
arrests.
When
I
was
on
the
job,
two
of
my
officers
pulled
over
a
truck
because
of
a
broken
taillight.
I
There
were
two
60-year
old
men
and
one
18-year
old
female.
The
officers
were
concerned
because
the
men
were
not
related
to
the
female
and
things
just
did
a
scene
right.
They
separated
the
female
from
the
men
and
were
able
to
get
her
mother's
phone
number
and
they
called
her.
The
mother
told
them
that
there
was
a
federal
warrant
out
for
one
of
the
men
for
human
trafficking
and
gave
them
the
number
to
the
federal
probation
officer.
This
man
had
been
trafficking,
women
and
girls
in
four
states.
I
He
started
trafficking
this
young
woman
when
she
was
14,
his
probation
forbid
him
from
contacting
or
communicating
with
her.
They
were
out
recruiting
young
girls
that
day
the
man
the
man
was
convicted
of
felony
trafficking.
In
a
sentence
of
15
years,
the
mother
was
able
to
get
her
daughter
back
and
into
drug
rehabilitation.
Those
officers
saved
countless
girls
from
being
trafficked
all
due
to
their
traffic,
stop
for
an
equipment
violation.
Please
keep
talking
about
the
problem
and
ways
to
address
it,
but
a
blanket
policy
is
not
leadership.
I
It's
a
lack
of
leadership,
have
the
difficult
conversations
and
keep
having
them,
but
traffic
stops
are
central
to
Public
Safety
and
once
to
the
young
lady
that
night
and
I'll
leave
you
with
this.
Many
of
our
serial
killers
were
captured
for
what
a
traffic
violation
or
an
equipment
violation.
So
I'll
leave
you
with
that.
Thanks.
H
Keith
McCarran
and,
as
many
of
you
know,
I
worked
at
M
ECC
for
16
years.
A
little
insight
into
what
happens.
The
thing
that
I
want
to
address
is
number
one:
is
the
traffic
stops?
If
you
look
at
that
a
dashboard
itself,
the
dashboard
tells
the
true
story
of
what
the
results
are:
a
spectacular
story,
a
great
human
result
from
a
traffic
stop
where
human
trafficking.
You
stop
that's
fantastic,
but
if
that
happens,
it
takes
place
once
out
of
a
thousand
stops.
H
You've
now
created
999,
traumatic
events
for
other
people
and
taken
one
event
for
a
good
result.
We
used
to
call
it
fishing
expeditions.
Every
police
officer
down
here
knows
his
term
fishing
expeditions.
You
cast
out
the
lure
and
see
what
you
can
catch
and
that's
not
the
the
reason
for
the
traffic
stop
it's
supposed
to
be
equipment
violation,
and
it's
just
an
excuse
to
pull
somebody
over
and
be
able
to
run
them,
and
we
don't
need
that
in
our
community.
If
you've
got
a
traffic,
stop
that
starts
to
become
escalated.
H
Now
you
got
to
pull
more
and
more
squads
off
and
calls
and
bring
them
over
to
backup
and
we've
seen
the
kind
of
results
that
this
has
occurred
in
traumatic
results
throughout
the
whole
country
with
traffic
stops
where
events
started
out
with
traffic
stops
and
ended
up
with
deaths,
and
that
happened
with
falando
Castillo
just
across
the
border.
We
don't
want
that.
We've
been
lucky
so
far.
We've
had
three
people
shot
in
Minneapolis
last
year
by
the
police.
We
don't
need
this
to
happen
over
a
traffic
equipment
violation.
H
My
big
concern
is
that
2003
Federal,
Mediation
I
know
what
happened
on
that
and
they
would
do
a
tle
traffic
law
enforcement
stop
and
they
changed
the
nature
code
so
that
they'd
get
around
the
stats,
so
they
changed
it
to
a
suspicious
vehicle,
a
suspicious
person,
a
disturbance
whatever.
So
they
didn't
have
to
track
the
race
of
the
person
that
they
were
stopping.
That's
why
nothing
has
changed
is
because
you
can
Juke
stats
any
way
you
want
to
Jake
them.
You
make
them
point
out
what
you
want
them
to
point
out
now.
H
I
I
think
that
chief
Rondo
has
done
an
absolutely
fantastic
job,
with
the
dashboard
of
presenting
transparency
with
the
Minneapolis
Police
Department
and
I
appreciate
that
I
think
it's
great
and
I
wish
more
people
knew
about
it
and
looked
into
it
and
drill
down
into
the
information.
The
information
very
clear
once
you
start
to
look
you
see
it's
not
an
efficient
means
of
policing,
there's
much
better
things
that
we
can
be
doing
to
create
an
uplifting
experience
in
our
community,
rather
than
causing
more
harassment,
fear
and
economic
problems.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
J
Morning,
Tammy
right,
okay,
so
I'm
here
to
share
my
story
of
being
driving
well,
Melanie
and
I
had
an
experience
where
I
got
pulled
over
and
so
the
officer
jumped
out
of
the
car
and
actually
when
I
was
being
pulled
over
for
and
so
I
didn't
realize
that
they
were
specialists
when
it
comes
to
vehicles.
So
I
was
driving
an
intrepid
at
that
time
and
he
was
telling
me
there
was
I
needed
a
light
up
under
my
license
plate
and
so
I
was
like.
J
J
It
doesn't
why
why
am
I
still
having
this
conversation
with
him,
so
he
think
it's
irritated
and
then
he
puts
his
hands
on
his
pistol
and
so
and
to
say:
I
get
uncomfortable
myself
and
so
I
immediately
pick
up
my
phone
and
I
call
it.
I
won
one
because
now
I
feel
like
there
is
a
communication
going
on
here,
because
there
is
no
reason
for
you
to
put
your
hand
on
your
pistol
but
I'm
asking.
Why
am
I
still
sitting
here
being
pulled
over
or
just
being
in
this
situation?
J
Right
now
and
so
I
caught
9-1-1
on
the
phone
he
had
to
send
out
another
officer
at
the
scene
over
North
Minneapolis
and
because
the
officer
was
not
letting
me
go
I
didn't
he
didn't
give
me
a
ticket.
He
still
didn't
answer
the
question.
Why
is
I'm
what
to
wear?
Why
am
I
still
sitting
here
and
so
I'm
on
the
phone
with
the
I
want
one
at
this
time
and
I'm
telling
them
that
I
don't
even
understand?
J
What's
going
on
at
this
point,
you
know
my
vehicle
doesn't
come
with
a
light
underneath
those
license
plates
and
the
officer
seems
very
irritated
and
he
had
placed
his
hand
on
his
gun
and
he
went
to
the
vehicle.
So
now,
I'm
not
sure.
What's
going
on
at
this
point,
I
don't
feel
safe
because
it's
very
rude
and
so
the
offers
the
the
dispatcher
just
told
me
to
remain
calm
and
just
wait
and
she's
gonna
get
in
contact
with
the
officer,
and
so
she
dispatched
someone
I'm,
not
sure
who
it
was.
J
But
there
was
another
vehicle
that
did
show
up
now
when
that
vehicle
showed
up,
that
I
feel
safe,
no
I
didn't
because
it
seems
like
he
wasn't
there
for
me,
he
was
there
to
assist
the
officer
so
I'm,
just
like
okay,
now,
I'm
gonna
do
here
so
I'm
still
on
the
phone,
with
the
nine
one,
one
dispatcher
and
she's
like
well
that
the
other
vehicle
show
up
yeah
it's
here,
but
he's
you
know,
tended
toward
the
other
officer
again,
I,
don't
understand!
Why
am
I
still
sitting
here?
J
My
vehicle
doesn't
come
with
the
light,
and
so
he
give
the
officer
comes
out
comes
out
of
the
car.
He
comes
to
my
vehicle
and
he
tells
me
the
other
officer.
Nick
shows
up
with
him
also
tells
me
that
there
is
a
light
that
goes
there
and
so
now
I
feel
like
I'm,
going
back
and
forth
with
two
officers
and
so
I'm
saying
okay.
Here
we
go
I'm
telling
at
this.
The
officer.
J
Excuse
me,
the
dispatcher
on
the
phone
know
they're
telling
me
that
there's
a
light
and
I
feel
a
very
uncomfortable
and
I'm
ready
to
leave
at
this
point,
and
so
the
officer
she's,
just
like
just
follow
what
the
officers
are
telling
you
to
do
and
say
well
they're,
not
telling
me
to
do
anything
they're,
just
complaining.
You
know
there
now,
there's
complained
it
to
me
about
my
life
that
I
know
that
don't
come
with
this
vehicle.
So
visually
you
know
it
came.
J
The
whole
thing
came
to
a
halt:
I
got
a
ticket
for
speeding,
I
gotta
take
his
for
speeding
when
it
was
about
the
light
on
my
vehicle,
so
I'm
like
alright,
well
Lisa
I'm.
Alright,
we're
done
with
this
conversation,
and
everything
is
done.
I
didn't
want
to
argue,
I
didn't
want
to
talk
about
the
ticket
and
why
it's
even
there,
due
to
the
officer
hostilities-
and
you
know
his
energy-
that
he
displayed
with
his
pillow
on
his
hand.
J
So
if
I
don't
feel
comfortable
with
speaking
with
the
officers
in
my
community
or
just
you
know,
being
able
to
educate
them
on
certain
vehicles
that
you
know,
I
feel
like
there's
they're
useless,
they're,
pointless,
there's,
no
reason
for
them
to
be
there
because
they
already
come
under
their
own
assumptions
on
how
they're
gonna
delegate
the
situation
and,
if
that's,
whether
they're,
right
or
wrong
and
most
of
the
time
they're
in
the
wrong.
You
know
so
put
my
case.
It
was
very
wrong.
J
J
I
didn't
have
to
change
and
I'm,
sick
and
tired
of
seeing
people
beg
and
acts
you
guys
for
the
same
thing
over
and
over
and
over
again,
and
you
do
nothing
why
we
suffer
and
now
I'm
at
this
point,
believing
it's
a
game
to
you
guys,
it's
a
joke,
you
don't
take
our
life
serious
and
you
know
culture
has
proven
it.
You
don't
take
us
serious
at
all.
J
We're
human
just
like
anybody
else,
truth
be
told
I'm
back
myself,
because
I
don't
want
to
go
there
with
you
today,
but
I
am
tired
of
the
culture
of
the
police
department
in
all
states
in
the
United
States
of
America,
and
they
stand
for
that
culture
to
this
day
and
nothing
has
changed.
So
what
are
you
gonna
do
about
it
because
we
protect
ourselves
all
the
time?
What
are
you
gonna
do
about
it?
Do
something?
Don't
just
look
at
me:
do
something
our
community
needs.
J
You
we've
acts
from
the
early
1900's
to
2000
a
VR
noodle
idiom
and
we're
still
asking
what
are
you
gonna?
Do
something
how
many
people's
go
to
that
we're
gonna
do
something
you
get
paid
to
do
nothing
just
like
the
officers
that
you
put
on
our
streets
to
harass
us
to
treat
us
terribly
like
this
is
in
our
community,
and
it
is
so.
What
are
you
gonna
do
do
something
and
do
it
now.
A
K
My
name
is
Stephanie
Stewart
and
I
asked
to
come
here
and
speak
on
behalf
of
the
Minneapolis
Police
Department,
and
my
working
relationship
with
them
I
would
also
like
to
just
bring
a
little
bit
of
positive
light
to
the
situation
here.
I
wasn't
quite
aware
of
the
situation
that
I
was
under.
However,
I
do
have
a
very
good
working
relationship
with
them
and
can
bring
a
little
bit
of
the
opposite
side
of
the
story
to
this
I
did
work.
K
The
franklin
Hiawatha
encampment
since
early
sir
since
spring
I'm,
also
out
on
the
streets
as
an
advocate
and
an
outreach
worker
pretty
much
24
hours
a
day,
so
I
rely
heavily
on
the
delete
on
the
Minneapolis
Police
Department
for
protection.
I
have
seen
their
interaction
with
the
homeless
individuals
at
the
encampment,
and
all
I
can
really
say
is
that
the
working
relationship
that
I
have
seen
them
built
with
a
lot
of
the
citizens
here
has
been
amazing.
K
L
Good
morning
my
name
is
Nick
Emily
D
Armstrong
I
am
a
civil
rights
attorney
the
former
president
of
the
Minneapolis
NAACP,
a
former
law
professor
in
a
community
activist
and
I'm
here
as
part
of
the
racial
justice
network,
to
echo
the
concerns
that
have
been
raised
about
the
racial
profiling
that
has
been
going
on
at
the
hands
of
the
Minneapolis
Police
Department.
Now
you
all
probably
know
I
have
a
good
relationship
in
chief
Rondo
I
support
chief
Rondo
110
percent
and
his
leadership.
L
However,
chief
Rondo
is
aware
that
there
are
officers
within
his
department
who
have
engaged
in
harassment
of
Minneapolis
residents,
particularly
residents
of
color,
who
have
pulled
people
over
sometimes
right
outside
my
house,
in
North,
Minneapolis
I
have
personally
gone
out
in
the
middle
of
the
night
when
I've
seen
the
lights,
blaring
and
confronted
officers
when
they
have
pulled
people
over
and
asked
him.
Why?
L
And
in
one
recent
incident
the
two
white
white
male
officers
had
pulled
over
a
car
with
african-american
people
at
about
midnight
and
when
I
asked
the
officers
why
they
pulled
the
car
over,
they
said
that
there
was
a
failure
to
use
a
turn
signal
and
I
said
these
people
are
terrified
in
this
car.
They
don't
know
whether
this
situation
is
going
to
escalate
and
if
you
were
in
a
predominantly
white
neighborhood,
there
is
absolutely
no
way
that
you
would
be
pulling
someone
over
for
failing
to
use
a
turn
signal.
It's
completely
unacceptable.
L
Most
of
these
officers
do
not
even
live
within
the
city
of
Minneapolis,
let
alone
North
Minneapolis,
but
they
are
allowed
to
patrol
us
and
act
as
if
we
are
under
siege
now.
If
this
is
about
ending
crime,
decreasing
crime
getting
guns
off
the
street,
then
there
are
smart
strategies
to
be
able
to
do
that.
That
is
not
what's
happening.
A
wide
net
is
being
cast
and
people's
rights
are
being
put
on
the
back
burner
for
an
all-encompassing
policy
that
has
been
going
on
for
years
and
long
before.
Chief
Rondo
took
this
leadership
position.
L
So
what
we
are
asking
you
all
to
do
is
to
dig
more
deeply,
don't
just
say:
well,
we
trust
the
chief.
Yes,
we
are
trust
the
chief,
but
the
chief
has
hundreds
of
officers
that
he
is
responsible
for
who
we
know
have
a
pattern
of
bad
behavior
on
the
streets,
some
of
whom
have
engaged
in
violent
conduct,
many
of
whom
have
engaged
in
harassment
and
abuse
of
residence,
and
they
have
not
been
held
accountable.
L
As
someone
said
earlier,
that's
the
reason
that
you
all
were
elected.
Many
of
you
ran
on
an
equity
platform
and
we're
tired
of
business.
As
usual,
we
chosen
the
leadership
for
a
reason,
so
we're
asking
you
to
step
up
to
the
plate
and
to
do
something
about.
What's
going
on,
we
haven't
seen
a
single
shift
in
police
policy
since
we
have
been
bringing
these
issues
forward.
Why
is
that?
L
You
all
have
the
responsibility
in
your
hands
to
do
something,
and
lastly,
I'll
say
to
the
faith
leader
who
got
up
here
and
talked
about
what
was
happening
at
his
church.
That's
wonderful,
but
the
problem
is
that
that
undermines
the
testimonials
of
people
of
color
who
are
being
harassed.
We
know
that
there
are
good
officers,
that's
not
what
this
is
about.
L
A
Okay,
so
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
this
is
a
regularly
scheduled
at
the
public
comment
period,
where
anyone
who
has
issues
or
concerns
about
public
safety
can
come
and
share
those
ideas.
We
want
to
maintain
a
respectful
tone
here.
All
voices
are
welcomed.
All
opinions
are
welcomed.
The
public
comment
period
was
not
preset
for
a
specific
topic.
It's
an
open
period
for
30
minutes.
Each
time
we
meet
the
presentations
that
followed
are
preset
and
those
were
published
in
the
agenda.
A
M
My
name
is
Lester
Collins
I
had
not
necessarily
planned
on
speaking,
but
I
was
asked
to
do
so.
I
was
the
director
of
the
Council
of
State
Council
on
black
Minnesotans
for
25
years
and
sad
to
say
that
25
years
ago,
statistics
information,
even
racial
profiling,
as
even
our
concept
was
denied,
didn't
exist
and
second
many
legislative
sessions
to
where
we
found
he
got
some
type
of
recognition
of
that
reality.
The
statistics
on
spoke
to
it
and
certainly
the
lives,
the
trauma
etc,
of
our
young
people
and
people
of
color.
Pretty
much
spoke
to
that.
M
It's
interesting.
Having
said
that,
but
also
chief
Donner
was
also
one
of
my
board
and
happen
to
be
surprised
at
all.
It
was
doing
that
time
that
we
were
actually
working
on
that
variation.
I
would
just
like
to
encourage.
You
I
think
that
probably
the
most
effective
tool
way
of
dealing
and
establishing
relationship
with
a
community
is
certainly
not
by
way
of
equipment
stops
and
those
kinds
of
the
most
of
is
the
people
feeling
trust,
filling
Congress,
feeling
partnership
with
individuals
that
are
hired
and
in
skill
there's
civility
of
protecting
and
keeping
the
peace.
M
We
don't
have
peace
and
it
certainly
is
distrust
of
protection.
So
I
would
like
to
stand
in
support
of
the
moratorium.
Look
at
it.
Look
at
the
data.
Look
at
the
information
work
cooperatively,
we'll
continue
to
do
so
with
the
community.
I
also
have
full
faith
in
the
chief,
his
efforts,
but
like
even
within
a
family
I'm
talking
about
on
a
personal
level,
they're
different
personalities,
different
influences,
etc.
Didn't
need
to
be
checked
and
looked
at
and
I
encourage
you
to
do
that
today.
Thank
you.
N
Could
afternoon
I
wasn't
fully
intending
on
speaking
this
afternoon,
but
dr.
nickimja,
maybe
I'm
sure
I
asked
me
to
so.
Let
me
say
a
quick
word
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
endorsing
and
asking
for
a
moratorium
on
equipment
violations
and
being
pulled
over
for
the
time
being,
but
I
think
I
need
to
speak
on
just
the
the
I
understand.
Our
pursuit
of
positivity
I
understand
the
desire
that
we
all
have
I.
N
Think
that's
what
we
were
all
ears
that
we
can
have
a
more
positive
edifying
experience
as
a
city
together,
but
I
think
about
my
grandma,
my
grandma
I'm,
a
pastor
in
south
Minneapolis.
My
grandpa
was
a
pastor
in
south
Minneapolis.
I
didn't
get
to
know
my
grandpa
very
well,
because
he
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
jail.
We
had
restraining
orders
against
him.
He
was
abusive.
He
was
a
drunk
and
yet
my
grandma
was
married
to
him
for
way
too
long.
When
I
asked
my
grandma
why
she
stayed
with
him.
N
She
told
me
that
while
she
was
trying
to
keep
her
eyes
on
the
positive
things,
positivity
at
the
expense
of
reality
isn't
good.
That's
how
problems
are
perpetuated.
That's
how
disparities
are
preserved.
It's
what
we
are
asking
is
for
an
interruption
of
our
status
quo,
so
we
can
take
some
substantial
looks
at
what
is
happening
and
how
we
can
take
a
direction
towards
real
positivity,
one,
that's
actually
factually
rooted
and
not
just
fictionally
yeah
thanks,
listen
appreciate.
Thank.
O
Good
morning
you
all
some
of
you
I
know
some
of
you.
I've
had
plenty
of
conversations
with
up.
My
name
is
Eliezer
Daris
Eliezer
is
closed,
but
Eliezer
Daris
with
the
ACLU
of
Minnesota
I'm.
Actually,
our
field
directors
I
handle
the
field
ops
once
we're
doing
something
out
here
in
community
and
well
partly
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
ACLU,
and
that
we
fully
endorse
a
policy
of
putting
a
halt
to
some
of
the
equipment.
O
So
that's
partly
that
but
I'm
here
also
privately
and
personally
in
that
in
the
past
two
years,
I've
been
pulled
over
eight
times
eight
times
in
two
years
and
I
think
about
Fernando
castile
and
the
number
of
times,
and
so
you
know
when
I
first
started
driving
I,
remember
thinking
to
myself
wow
they
pulled
for
Lando
over
almost
50
times.
That
is
a
lot
and
so
now
think
about
myself.
O
O
We
were
driving
down
Broadway
the
officer
bust,
a
u-turn
and
lit
up
a
car
on
the
side
of
us
and
followed
them
for
a
good
20
yards.
Then
turn
the
lights
off
and
got
behind
me
and
lit
me
up
and
pulled
me
over
and
I
said,
and
it
was.
It
was
I
see
that
day
and
my
significant
other
was
next
to
me
and
I
was
very
carefully
driving
and
I
said
well.
Why
did
you
pull
me
over
while
I
had
you're
speeding?
I
said
when
you
have
that
other
vehicle?
O
Speeding,
not
me,
you
was
actually
two
lanes
over.
So
how
could
you
have
seen
me
speeding?
I
could
get
up
track
me
speeding
in
a
very
busy
street,
and
you
followed
that
car
for
nearly
20
yards
with
your
lights
on,
oh
well,
I
didn't
mean
to
light
them
up.
I
meant
to
light
you
up.
Fine,
so
I'm
fighting
that
when
I
was
not
speeding
any
other
time,
I
did
not
fight
that
I
was
speeding
the
other
six
times
there
was
no
ticket.
No
anything.
O
It
was
just
merely
to
question
me
or
to
ask
me
something
once
I
blew
my
horn
at
my
significant
other
in
front
of
me
as
she
was
turning
and
then
they
pulled
me
almost
like.
Oh,
we
heard
you
blow
your
horn
at
that
car.
Do
you
know
them
like?
Yes,
I
know
them,
that's
my
significant
other.
We
literally
had
that
exchange
back
in
for
three
or
four
times
before.
Ultimately,
he
believed
that
that
was
my
significant
other
and
then
let
me
go
another
time.
O
An
officer
said
that
my
my
tail
lights,
weren't,
working
and
so
I
began.
Hitting
them
and
I
could
see
my
lights
lighting
up
on
his
car.
He
said:
stop
eating
him.
They
weren't
lighting
up
I
said
what
they're
lighting
I'm,
showing
you
that
they're
lighting
up
and
so
like,
as
each
of
these
interactions,
are
happening,
I'm,
actually
finding
myself
getting
more
and
more
and
more
frustrated
and
aggravated
eight
times
two
years,
one
actual
ticket
and
so
and
and
I'm
just
getting
frustrated.
I
try
to
man
understand
how
to
conduct
myself
during
these
stops.
O
I
turn
on
all
my
lights.
I
put
my
hand
on
the
steering
wheel.
I
answered
the
questions.
No
sir.
Yes,
sir,
no
ma'am,
yeah,
I
answered
them,
but
I'm
getting
frustrated
and
I'm.
Actually
getting
aggravated
and
I
found
myself
in
the
last
stop
losing
my
composure,
a
bit,
not
understanding
why
I
might
yet
once
again
pulled
over
and
so
in
the
interactions
or
growth
they're,
not
respectful
that
the
rough
type
of
interactions
and
and
I
can
sense
that,
like
at
any
moment,
I
could
lose
my
life
in
the
interaction.
I
can
sense
like
an
intent.
O
The
potential
for
death
and
I
always
get
someone
else
on
the
phone,
and
so
I'm
traumatising
the
person
who
I
get
on
the
phone,
but
I
know
that
I
want
to
have
at
least
another
set
of
eyes
there,
and
so
we're
just
asking
that
that
we
pause
our
respective
arredondo
my
staff
and
I.
We
meet
with
him
routinely
quarterly
and
we
have
great
conversations.
We
look
at
policies
and
other
things
that
we
can
change.
So
we
have
a
really
great
relationship,
but
we
also
recognize
that
there
probably
needs
to
be
a
cultural
shift
and
community.
O
O
P
Hello,
my
name
is
Amelia
Hanson
and
I'm
here
with
the
racial
justice.
Network
I
work
at
the
library
with
youth
of
color
I
attended
the
driving
while
black
panel
in
January,
and
there
are
too
many
of
these
stories.
As
people
have
stated,
it's
not
just
stats
and
stories.
These
are
lives
of
human
beings.
I
hear
from
you
every
day
how
they
are
stopped
by
police
and
feel
unsafe,
they're,
fearful
I'm
here
to
amplify
their
voices.
As
you
have
heard
from
community
today,
equipment
violations
and
racial
profiling
have
direct
negative
impacts
on
lives.
It's
not
right.
P
A
Q
R
You
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
for
entertaining
my
request
to
speak.
I
spent
a
few
years
in
your
chair
there
and
I
was
chair
of
the
Public
Safety
Committee
for
eight
years,
and
so
I
I
know
who
your
honor
your
work
and
all
that
you're
doing
as
a
committee
I'm
here
to
speak
very
briefly
about
the
fix-it
ticket
concept
that
you
have
on
the
last
page.
R
This
is
actually
the
same
project
as
the
lights
on
project,
which
I
initiated
at
micro
grants
where
I'm
CEO
and
we
decided
to
come
up
with
this
idea,
I
after
Philander's
death
to
so
now
in
when
you
get
pulled
over
by
a
cop
in
any
of
25
cities.
You
get
voucher
for
to
get
your
lighter
place
for
free
and
I,
raise
the
money
for
all
of
that.
So
the
community
has
been
very
generous
and
in
fact
a
lot
of
departments
thought
it
was
a
one-year
program.
R
It's
actually
so
well
funded
that
it
could
go
on
forever.
So
this
gives
the
cops
something
not
just
to
stop
doing,
but
something
to
do
that's
healthy
and
healing,
and
so
when
we
read
the
every
time
someone
gets
their
car
lights
replaced,
they
fill
out
a
form
that
allows
for
a
narrative
of
how
their
experience
with
the
police-
and
you
can
see
that
it's
truly
transformative
people
are
surprised.
R
To
someone
we
pull
over
a
mom
with
two
kids
in
the
car
seat,
looking
like
they
are
on
the
lower
end
of
the
economic
scale,
and
so
it's
like
what
do
you
do
and
now
they
have
something
to
do,
and
so
one
thing
I
would
ask
is
that
either
staff
direction
or
a
motion
be
made
to
change
the
name
to
lights
on,
because
that
is
the
original
name
of
the
projects.
That's
what
all
the
cities
are
calling
it
behind.
It's
being
is
now
extended
around
the
country.
R
Would
do
that
so
I'm
currently
and
we're
having
a
great
experience
with
it.
Everybody
loves
it.
People
are
putting
it
on
their
face,
Paige
that
the
cop
stopped
them
they
got.
It
things
great
great
experience
and
the
cops
love
it
and,
of
course,
Bobby
and
Steve's.
That
does
the
work
they
do
it
for
free
and.
R
R
So
thank
you
for
your
time
and
what
we're
hoping
is
that
over
time
we
will
raise
enough
money
that
we'll
be
able
to
address
not
just
lights
but
other
kinds
of
mechanical
malfunction,
so
that
every
time
the
cop
stops
someone
for
any
equipment
violation,
there's
a
high
likelihood
that
it
will
turn
into
an
interaction,
that's
healing
and
relieving
for
the
person
who
stopped.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
S
Good
morning,
madam
chair
and
council
members,
but
this
is
the
first
time
I
made
me
making
history
you're
agreeing
with
former
councilmember
Stratton's,
so
I
don't
know,
what's
happened
in
here
to
date,
but
I'm
I'm,
gonna,
say
that
and
I
ran
in
the
councilmember.
Wars
fought
me
out
in
the
hall
and
he
said
I'm
working
for
the
police,
so
I
don't
know
what's
going
on,
but
we're
gonna
keep
it
real
and
I'm
talking
about
our
priorities
and
in
our
community
an
african-american
community
descended
of
the
slaves
and
I
appreciate
everybody
up
here.
S
Talking
about
racial
and
social
justice
and
all
that,
but
I
justice
is
going
to
be
when
we
stop
violence
within
our
community.
That's
what
we're
trying
to
do!
I've
been
over
to
the
South
State
Legislature
working
with
representative
Mariani
on
the
Public
Safety
Committee
representative
ray
Dean,
and
we're
trying
to
get
some
put
in
the
community
I'm
working
with
st.
Paul
and
Minneapolis
right
now.
We
have
we're
putting
it
together
to
work
with
each
community
to
try
to
stop
the
violence.
These
issues
here
they
bring
up
the
mediation
agreement
in
2003
to
2009.
S
I
was
on
that
mediation
team,
but
and
I
know
everybody
that's
still
around.
That
was
on
the
mediation
team.
They
not
at
these
tables
where
they
talking
about,
and
everybody
comes
up
and
saying
we
support
chief
arredondo.
Well,
if
you
did,
then
you
would
sit
down
and
figure
this
out
together,
but
you
want.
This
is
about
publicity,
everybody,
nice,
all
social
media,
publicity
and
what's
what
feels
good
to
you
that
you
can
put
online
and
say
this?
What
we're
working
on
this?
S
What
we
stopped,
whether
it's
looked
at
in
loitering,
whether
it's
this
issue
about
driving
while
black,
when
I
go
to
the
meeting
and
councilmember
Fletcher
you
there.
It
was
all
white
people
at
that
meeting,
probably
eight
or
five
or
six
blacks-
that
that's
probably
one
here.
You
have
a
right
pastor,
get
up
here
to
talk
where's,
our
black
pastors
at
because
you
got
to
work
with
everybody
when
we're
not
but
I
know
where
our
community
is
we're
talking
about
what
we
can
do
economically
about
housing
about
education,
about
public
safety.
S
Those
are
our
issues,
but
we
get
clouded
in
our
community.
When
you
win
these
kind
of
issues.
Come
up
because
it's
easy
to
say:
I
hate,
the
police
or
I'm
they
driving
or
were
they
doing
things
like
that
I'm,
not
saying
the
same,
the
more
touring
now
I,
don't
know
nothing
about
it.
Like
I
said
what
Norman
Kalman
Sam,
you
said
might
be
the
great
idea
to
look
at.
S
But
what
I
ask
you
as
a
activist
as
a
person
in
the
community
as
a
person
that
worked
with
you
head-on,
councilmember
Fletcher
on
doing
things
to
uplift
people
in
the
community
on
different
races
area.
Now,
I'm
asking
you
again,
I
keep
coming
down
here,
I'm
saying
we
need
to
support
other
city
I've
met
with
councilmember
Allison
waiting
to
me.
Without
we
setting
up
the
meeting
with
councilmember
Cunningham
councilman
Jenkins,
we
just
had
a
bus
driver
shot.
S
Do
you
know
we
got
leads
the
kind
of
things
that
I
wake
up
every
day,
wake
up
every
day
to
think
about
and
what's
happening
to
us
in
our
community
and
I
need
y'all
to
uplift
that
this
is
easy
right
here.
This
is
easy
to
say:
well,
you
know
the
we
don't
want
the
police
to
pull
us
over.
I,
don't
need
them.
I,
don't
need
I,
don't,
but
that
is
that
a
priority.
S
Do
they
get
to
take
all
the
energy
away
from
violence
when
you're
talking
about
the
police,
when
you're
talking
about
I
could
do
they
get
to
take
away
all
the
energy
councilmember
K
know?
Do
they?
Is
that
what
we're
gonna
do
or
we're
gonna
try
to
stop
some
of
this?
What's
going
on
and
try
to
help
economically
education?
Why?
But
we
do
that.
We
need
support
from
the
council
on
this
Public
Safety.
Let
that
be
a
top
priority,
let
that
be
a
top
priority.
Rachel
Dustin's
people
help
us
in
our
community
without
violence.
S
S
S
You
can't
let
individuals
run
the
game
and
that's
what
you're
doing
and
I
know
what's
happening,
so
you
can
continue
and
then,
when
we
get
to
April
and
in
the
soothing
starts
and
all
that
all
the
things
are
happening,
you
can't
run
away
in
high
I,
brought
it
to
you
and
then
I'ma
keep
bringing
it
every
time
they
bring
up.
Something
like
I
think
it's
garbage
when
we
dine
I'm
gonna,
keep
coming
back
every
time,
but
I'm
saying
our
churches
are
black.
When
you
say
african-american
descendant
of
the
slave,
we
got
the
support.
Thank.
A
You
thank
you
appreciate
it
I'm
glad
you're
meeting
with
some
other
councilmembers
Thank
You
mr.
flowers.
Okay,
thank
you.
We
have
up
next
is
Tanisha
Gipson,
followed
by
Lewis,
Davis
and
I.
Don't
have
any
names
after
that,
so
if
you're
here
to
speak,
please
make
sure
you
sign
up
over
here
with
our
city
clerk.
Q
A
H
Q
Q
You
know
to
the
council
to
the
police
and
all
the
people
involved
in
this
topic
of
traffic
enforcement.
This
is
2019
and
the
state
of
our
future
is
really
important
right
now
we
have
the
ability,
the
power
and
the
right
people
elected
to
change
the
practices
and
misbehavior
of
people
that
don't
follow
the
rules.
It's
very
simple:
we
need
the
police
to
protect
us
and
if
there
are
police
that
won't
follow
the
rules
of
their
chief
or
their
mayor
or
the
people
that
have
the
ability
to
enforce
change,
they
gotta
go
it's
that
simple.
Q
They
have
to
go
and
it
is
not
only
the
responsibility
of
the
leadership
but
the
people
as
well.
We
have
to
figure
out
a
way
to
unite
and
have
a
better
solution
for
the
people,
and
last
but
not
least,
I
would
like
to
address
what
that
looks
like
humanity.
We
need
to
get
back
to
humanity.
We
are
human
beings.
Most
people
have
made
mistakes.
Q
Some
people
have
changed
and
become
better
people
from
their
mistakes,
but
we
have
to
set
the
example
in
standards
and
I
say
that,
because,
as
a
young
person,
I
grew
up
in
a
very
good
household,
but
I
was
in
the
wrong
environment.
So
I
made
some
poor
decisions
and
I
use
that
as
an
influence
for
my
children,
and
so
I
am
able
to
stand
here
and
say
that
I
have
very
respectable
children
that
contribute
to
our
community.
But
that
is
what
we
need
to
do.
A
U
This
is
my
first
time
getting
involved
with
something
like
this
I'm,
a
retired
Army
veteran
I
grew
up
here
and
I
had
to
watch
in
horror.
My
last
couple
of
years,
the
misdeeds
of
the
Minneapolis
Police
Chief
Arredondo,
not
within
withstanding.
You
guys
played
all
of
it.
We
trusted
you
and
you
guys,
found
excuse
after
excuse
to
gun
down
on
people,
I've
operated
in
hotter
zones
and
any
of
you
guys
have
any.
U
Is
directed
towards
them
I
understand
Bullock.
It
greatly
saddens
me
to
hear
the
same
scenario.
Time
and
time
again.
It
saddens
me
here
the
same
narrative
time
and
time
again
leads
me
to
ask:
are
we
in
a
war
zone
last
time,
I
checked
this
isn't
Iraq
last
time,
I
checked
this
isn't
Afghanistan
last
time,
I
checked,
there's
no
roadside
bombs.
Last
time
I
checked
there
is
no
artillery.
There
is
no
there's
nobody
running
around
with
a
suicide
vest
trying
to
blow
people
up
so
again,
are
we
in
a
war
zone?
U
They
have
conducted
themselves
in
a
manner
similar
to
the
criminals
that
they
that
we
have,
that
we've
entrusted
them
to
apprehend
and
keep
off
our
streets.
You
know
you,
they
want
our
respect
well.
In
order
to
learn
black
Pete
the
respect
of
the
black
community,
you
guys
need
some
rules
of
engagement,
stop
viewing
us
as
a
threat
because
we
aren't
culantro.
Castille
was
no
more
of
a
threat
than
I
am
right.
U
Now
he
didn't
have
a
firearm
in
his
hand,
he
hadn't
still
that
officer,
even
though
he
wasn't
part
of
the
Minneapolis
Police
Department,
he
discharged
a
firearm
and
endangered
the
lives
of
two
people,
not
just
individual.
He
opened
fire
on
I
had
to
go
through
a
similar
situation
years
ago,
where
a
st.
Paul
police
officer
Darren
near
clipped.
My
car
I,
pull
over,
so
I
could
talk
with
him
and
see
if
everything
was
okay,
give
him
the
courtesy.
U
What
happened
is
that
I
ended
up
with
a
floodlight
on
me
and
a
weapon
drawn
even
after
I
identified
myself
as
active
duty,
his
exact
words
were
I,
don't
care
what
you're
in
what
really
I
could
have
died
right
thin
in
there.
That
officer
could
have
blown
me
away
and
the
next
thing
you
know
we
have
to
deal
with
the
smear
campaign
you're
trying
to
look
at
what
kind
of
a
person
he
was,
how
much
trouble
this
individual
got
into
to
cover
their
behinds.
U
U
Sure
you,
because
guess
what,
during
my
deployment,
I
had
a
long
list
of
things
of
steps,
I
had
to
go
through
before
my
thumb
even
touched,
a
selector
lever,
let
alone
before
my
finger,
touch
the
trigger
and
I
raised
my
weapon
to
take
aim
in
the
event
of
a
discharge
of
a
firearm.
There
is
no
cooling
period.
These
officers
don't
get
an
opportunity
to
sit
back
and
collaborate,
their
story.
U
They
have
to
answer
right
then,
and
there
all
footage
should
be
made
public
right
then,
and
there
let
us
decide
why,
because
we're
the
ones
that
have
to
have
to
deal
with
this
we're
the
ones
have
to
worry
about
our
sons
and
daughters,
getting
gunned
down
or
ourselves
getting
gunned
down
any
event
that
there
is
wrongdoing,
no
paid
leave.
That
officer
sits
in
a
Cell
just
like
any
one
of
us
would
have
if
we
discharged
the
firearm.
If
we
pointed
a
weapon
at
someone,
those
rules
need
to
apply
to
them.
U
They
should
be
held
to
a
much
higher
standard
than
we
do.
There
is
no
excuse
for
this.
It
needs
to
stop
I.
Don't
want
to
find
myself
in
this
room
having
this
same
conversation
with
the
same
group
of
people
enough
all
right,
I
have
other
things
to
worry
about
other
than
the
possibility
that
I
might
get
blown
away,
because
some
cop
thought
I
was
a
thot.
I
was
reaching
for
a
firearm,
even
though
I
was
sitting
up
there
compliant.
A
V
It
said
that
the
community
has
to
ask
for
this
moratorium
on
a
legitimate
function
of
police.
The
responsibility
for
this
lies
with
the
police,
chief
and
other
hierarchy
for
consistently
not
disciplining
and
firing
rogue
officers,
I'm
white
but
I'm,
a
human
being
first
I
understand
when
black
people
say
that
they
fear
when
they're
stopped
by
police,
because
I
saw
the
videos
of
Copeland,
oh
of
Castiel's
murder.
This
easily
could
have
happened
in
Minneapolis.
That
officer
had
problems
that
were
known
but
unaddressed
by
his
superiors.
V
People
tried
to
complain
about
him,
but
the
police
department
would
not
take
their
complaints.
Literally
I
actually
know
somebody
who
tried
to
complain
and
was
told
by.
We
don't
want
to
hear
what
you
have
to
say.
We
have
this
going
on
in
Minneapolis
as
well.
I
followed
complaints
about
police
conduct
through
the
police
conduct
oversight
Commission.
V
It
is
virtually
never
that
officers
are
disciplined
for
using
the
n-word,
the
F
word
and
the
B
word
and
others
there's
also
a
lot
of
sarcasm
going
on
and
I
think
that's
the
most
disrespectful
thing
you
can
do
to
a
person,
it's
worse
than
you
know,
using
racial
epithets,
because
sarcasm
does
not
give
you
any
room
to
come
back
and
it's
totally
disrespectful
to
get
you
through
this.
We
need
to
look
to
Ferguson
where
a
substantial
amount
of
revenue
was
gained
through
profiling.
V
Do
we
want
this
to
happen
here?
It's
it's
been
closed
a
few
times
in
the
city
of
Minneapolis,
and
it
really
all
comes
down
to
money
and
that's
so
disgusting.
We
have
plenty
of
money
in
this
city
to
take
care
of
all
our
problems.
All
the
homeless-
oh
my
god,
they're
not
going
to
decrease,
try
and
you
have
not
taken
care
of
the
homeless.
V
V
A
Thank
you
seeing
that
this
is
our
last
speaker
for
the
public
comment
period.
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
coming
to
share
your
perspectives
with
us
before
we
move
to
receive
and
file.
I
would
like
to
acknowledge
that
we
have
been
joined
by
council
vice
president
Andrea
Jenkins
and
council
member
Jeremiah
Ellison
councilmember
Cunningham
had
to
step
out
for
another
meeting.
He
had
on
City
business
business
and
apologizes
for
not
conveying
able
to
continue
with
us
today,
but
he
will
be
logging
into
to
make
sure
he
follows
the
meeting
as
it
continues.
A
So
with
that
we
will
receive
and
file
these
public
comments,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
and
we
are
moving
on
now
to
the
discussion
part
of
our
agenda,
where
our
next
item
will
be
a
presentation
by
the
Minneapolis
Police
Department
on
the
traffic
enforcement
data,
and
it
is
related
to
a
lot
of
the
questions
and
concerns
that
the
community
members
have
brought
up
this
morning.
So
we
hope
to
have
a
robust
discussion
here
and
hope
that
time
will
allow
for
that.
A
W
I
will
say
that
this
is
a
very
brief
overview
for
those
of
our
for
those
of
you
who
have
taken
a
look
at
our
public
data
on
this.
It's
their
extensive
there's
a
lot
there.
We
could
certainly
talked
for
hours
related
to
this.
I
certainly
want
to
make
myself
available
for
those
community
members
who
would
like
to
have
a
further
deeper
conversation
about
this,
but
in
the
few
minutes
that
I
will
do
this
overview.
I
will
try
to
capture
the
data.
W
The
first
slide
that
you
will
see
is
something
that,
a
couple
of
years
ago,
when
I
was
in
my
role
as
deputy
chief
I
thought,
it
was
very
important
in
terms
of
transparency
and
building
trust
that
we
as
a
police
organization
we
as
a
plain
Minneapolis,
Police
Department,
that
we
did
not
hold
on
to
and
I.
Frankly,
I
called
it
those
three
words.
W
The
people's
data
I
did
not
believe
that
as
a
culture
of
policing
in
terms
of
building
trust
that
the
times
that
our
community
needed
and
wanted
our
engagement
information
that
they
should
have
to
go
through
a
records,
information
request
or
through
court
orders.
This
is
the
people's
data,
as
I
still
affectionately.
Call
it
today
and
I'm
proud
to
say
that
we
are
one
of
the
few
departments
in
the
nation
that
puts
out
in
disseminates.
This
type
of
information
is
readily
available
for
our
community,
because
it
is
their
data
and
I'm.
W
Also,
when
I
knew
back,
then
that
we
were
going
to
roll
this
out.
The
conversations
that
we
are
having
today
is
exactly
like
what
I
wanted.
This
is
prompting
important,
relevant
conversations
that
are
reflective
of
the
concerns
that
our
community
has,
and
certainly
as
me,
as
chief
in
terms
of
how
we
build
and
change
culture
and
and
build
trust
that
we
need
so
much
in
our
community.
W
So
I'm
glad
that
the
slides
you
see
here,
the
people's
data
and
glad
that
we
are
able
to
disseminate
and
get
all
of
this
data,
this
information
out
to
our
public.
So
we
can
have
these
important
conversations
as
it
relates
to
traffic
enforcement
with
the
Minneapolis
Police.
Department
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
over
the
last
10
years
in
the
Minneapolis
Police
Department,
our
traffic
law
enforcement
has
actually
decreased,
approximately
70
percent.
W
2013
is
significant,
because
that
is
the
year
that
our
citywide
traffic
unit
was
dissolved.
So
that'll
be
important
in
terms
of
context
when
we
go
into
the
further
slides,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
the
engagement
that
so
many
our
community
have
had
with
Minneapolis
news
department
through
of
traffic
stops
historically
over
the
past
decade,
that
enforcement
of
traffic
laws
has
actually
decreased.
Almost
70
percent
in
the
last
10
years.
W
Now
then,
the
next
slide,
because
some
of
the
traffic
stopped
strategies
that
we
are
utilizing
in
the
city.
We
are
trying
to
focus
on
areas
in
our
city
that
have
had
more
prevalence
of
gun
violence
and
were
more
victims
of
gun
violence
where
that
is
occurring
in
the
past
two
years
in
Minneapolis,
particularly
the
fourth
Precinct.
We
have
seen
through
our
efforts
of
our
group
or
gang
enforcement
team
activity
that
has
been
conducting
a
lot
of
the
traffic
enforcement
in
North
Minneapolis.
W
We
have
seen
a
two-year
decrease
and
the
victims
of
gunshot
violence
in
Minneapolis,
in
particularly
in
North
Minneapolis,
there's
also
disparity
of
victims
of
these
gunshot
wounds.
In
2018
last
year,
citywide
there
were
two
hundred
forty
four
people
actually
struck
by
gunfire.
A
hundred
and
ninety
of
those
victims
were
African
Americans.
So
almost
eight
out
of
ten
of
our
race
of
our
victims
of
gunshot
violence
were
African
American
in
North
Minneapolis,
the
race
of
the
shooting
victims
in
North
Minneapolis
for
almost
a
nine
out
of
ten.
W
W
If
you
compare
that
to
other
precincts,
whether
it's
the
first
precinct
that
recovered
seven
guns
and
traffic
stops
our
second
reason
to
recovered
for
fourth
Precinct,
their
district
patrols,
recovered
34
and
our
gang
interdiction
team
that
has
operated
primarily
in
North
Minneapolis
to
reduce
to
harm
and
gun
violence
in
that
collected
over
28
guns
itself,
but
there
were
over
664
guns.
Recovered
in
traffic
stops
last
year
alone.
Many
of
you
know
in
this
room
that
are
group,
violence
and
initiative.
W
Argot
teams
are
not
only
focused
on
trying
to
reduce
group
violence
that
occurs
in
our
city,
but
they're,
also
working
with
our
GBI
team
to
provide
services
to
help
young
men,
particularly
black
black
and
brown
young
men,
receive
services,
whether
it's
GEDs
housing
mental
health
services.
So
it
is
a
two-pronged
approach
and
not
just
strictly
an
enforcement
approach.
W
So
question
has
been
raised
through
these
important
conversations
about
the
searches
of
persons
in
vehicles
during
these
traffic
stops
and
I
want
to
note
that
if
you
look
at
the
slide
here
for
the
first
second
third,
even
the
fourth
Precinct,
as
well
as
the
fifth
Precinct
and
some
of
our
special
operations,
our
searches
and
traffic
stops
by
these
units
are
pretty
much
flatlined.
They
also,
if
you
look
at
the
traffic
stops
and
searches
of
persons
is
pretty
much
the
same.
Where
you
see
the
largest
indicator
in
the
bar
graph
is
through
our
gang
enforcement
teams.
W
They
make
up
the
bulk
of
the
searches
of
either
vehicles
or
persons
during
these
traffic
stops
out
of
all
the
traffic
stops
performed
about.
9.7
of
the
traffic
stops
resulted
in
a
person
search
in
about
nine
point.
Six
percent
of
those
traffic
stops
resulted
in
a
vehicle
search
as
chief
wire
traffic
and
vice
traffic
enforcement
also
important,
particularly
in
our
most
challenged
communities.
W
This
slide
here
states
that
our
traffic
crashes
in
Minneapolis
are
more
concentrated
in
neighborhoods,
with
more
people
that
live
and
low
income.
Forty
percent
of
the
crashes
results
in
these
neighborhoods
that
are
affected
by
low
income
and
poverty
that
only
make
up
only
thirty
percent
of
the
population.
W
It
is
unconscionable
to
me
that
our
friends,
neighbors
and
family
that
happen
to
live
in
Malone
income
neighborhoods
are
more
susceptible
to
both
vehicle
and
pedestrian
crashes.
Traffic
enforcement
is
a
tool
to
help
keep
those
communities
in
our
communities
safe,
as
mr.
Don
Samuels
was
here
earlier,
and
I
applaud
his
work
in
creating
here
in
this
state
in
the
city,
the
lights
on
program.
W
That
is
another
opportunity
that
we
also
want
to
do
to
utilize
for
those
individuals
who
may
have
equipment
violations
in
terms
of
collective
healing,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
our
officers
are
shooing
the
lights
on
or
fix
it.
Not
ticket
vouchers
as
another
way
that
we
can
also
help
those
individuals
who
may
have
perhaps
financial
challenges
in
getting
that
equipment
fixed,
but
that's
another
thing
that
we're
going
to
do.
Also
the
screen
shot.
You
see
there
we
will
be
making
sure
their
officers
can
track
the
number
of
fix-it,
not
ticket
site.
W
A
X
W
Chair
Cano
to
Cosmo
Palmisano
I'll
beg
for
forgiveness
right
now,
because
I'm
not
I,
do
not
have
a
legal
law
degree,
but
I
will
try
to
talk
to
you.
The
New,
York
stop-and-frisk
Court
decision
that
was
unruly
unconstitutional
as
best
as
I
can.
So
if
I
should
say
anything
that
is
not
accurate,
please
forgive
me
is
not
intentional.
W
During
a
10-year
period,
in
New,
York
City,
between
2002
and
about
2012
New
York,
City,
Police
Department,
through
its
top
leadership
down
to
its
officers,
had
engaged
in
a
practice
of
stop
and
frisk
with
the
premise
to
reduce
violence
on
the
city.
Streets
of
New
York
by
having
their
officers
engage
in
what
is
typically
called
a
Terry
stop.
W
This,
basically,
is
if
the
law
had
stated
that,
if
officers
have
reasonable
suspicion
to
leave
that
a
person
is
either
committed,
a
crime
is
about
to
commit
one
and
they
believe
that
they
are
carrying
a
weapon
or
contraband
that
they
have.
They
have
reasonable
suspicion.
They
can
conduct
basically
a
pat
search
other
person
to
look
for
weapons
or
contraband.
W
What
New
York?
What
the
courts
had
seen
over
that
ten-year
time
was.
If
the
number
of
stops
increased
dramatically
every
year
that
the
vast
percentage,
the
majority
of
90%
of
the
individuals
stopped,
were
typically
black
and
brown
young
men
between
the
ages
of
14
and
24
and
the
vast
majority
of
the
time
these
individuals
were
innocent.
These
were
illegal
stops,
the
court
ruled
and
they
were
unconstitutional.
W
If,
if
they
were
yielded
any
contraband,
the
courts
ruled
that
that
was
unconstitutional
and
there
were
even
officers
within
the
New
York
City
Police
Department
have
recorded
some
of
these
interactions
and
some
of
the
mandates
that
there's
appears
that
had
them
do
so.
I
will
tell
you
that
the
Minneapolis
Police
Department
under
my
leadership
does
not
have
any
performance
matrix
associated
with
traffic
stops,
and
it
never
will.
We
will
not
engage
in
any
quotas
and
we
do
not,
and
we
have
not.
W
One
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
culture
change
in
the
Minneapolis
Police
Department.
One
of
the
things
that
I
was
very
intentional
on
doing
a
few
years
ago,
was
making
sure
that
officers
today
in
their
mobile
digital.
They
must.
They
must
indicate
and
document
the
reason
or
basis
for
the
stop.
Our
officers
do
technology.
They
cannot
clear
and
go
to
the
next
call
without
indicating
the
reason
or
the
basis
for
the
stop.
Why
is
that
significant?
W
In
2013
there
was
a
decision
out
in
New
York
believe
was
Floyd
versus
the
United
States.
The
courts
ruled
that
the
New
York
City,
Police
Department,
had
to
start
indicating
and
mandating
that
officers
must
indicate
the
reason
in
the
basis
for
the
stop
that's
significant
here,
because
we
have
been
doing
that
for
the
last
several
years
that
when
you
don't
do
that,
that
erodes
trust
and
I
need
to
make
sure
that
we
are
indicating
everything.
That's
legal.
We're
making
sure
that
these
are
legal
stops.
W
We're
making
sure
that
we
put
as
much
demographic
information
in
that
and
that
we
can
have
the
types
of
conversations
that
we
are
having
today
and
so
no
I
would
not
compare
the
New
York
City,
stop
and
frisk
tactics
or
protocols,
or
both
the
in
formal
and
informal
quotas
and
performance
matrix
that
were
placed
upon
that
Department
I
would
not
compare
that
the
Minneapolis
Police
Department.
Thank.
X
W
W
So
if
there
are
challenges
to
the
legitimacy
of
those
stops,
our
department
internal
affairs
OPC,
our
attorneys
public
defenders
can
check
that
video
and
see
if
the
stop
was
done
correctly,
cousin
legally,
if
the
officer
was
acting
in
a
professional
manner
what-have-you,
but
they
cannot
change
that
one
set
is
in
it.
Thank.
X
You
and
just
a
question
on
this
slide
that
people's
data
animals,
by
the
way
for
anybody
here,
there's
there's
a
huge
piece
of
paper
taped
up
on
almost
a
whole
wall
in
my
office.
That
shows
how
that
how
this
data
was
gets
to
be
live
in
the
dashboard,
and
it's
really
interesting
there's
a
huge
amount
of
work
to
put
this
kind
of
information
up.
X
So
thank
you
for
having
this
up
and
prompting
some
of
these
conversations,
but
so
within
this
data,
I
am
curious
because
of
some
of
the
ways
that
we've
talked
about
ways
we
could
improve
on
on
these
stops
is:
are
you
able
to
run
license
plates
without
a
traffic?
Stop
like
I
assume
license
plate.
Lookups
are
tightly
regulated
just
like
driver's
license
lookups,
but
can
you
can
you
just
run
plates
as
a
vehicle
goes
by
chair.
W
Cano
to
councilmember
Palmisano,
our
officers
have
to
have
a
legal
justification
for
that,
so
they
have
to
observe
some
sort
of
violation.
To
do
that.
Many
of
you
might
be
aware
that
over
the
past
couple
of
years,
our
State
Department
of
Motor
Vehicle
Services
have
really
been
very
intentional
and
even
punitive
regarding
public
employees,
police
officers
using
and
looking
up
driver's
license
plates
for
a
non
business
reason.
W
X
W
Kennel
to
councillor
Palmisano,
when
we
created
this,
we
know
a
couple
of
things.
We
knew
that
we
wanted
to
capture
data
that
the
officer
may
initiate,
but
we
also
know
that
sometimes
we're
going
to
have
citizens
calling
in
to
to
initiate
an
officer
action.
So
our
dispatcher
one
of
two
ways
that
this
happens,
our
dispatcher
can
notify
the
officer
that
the
caller
is
saying
that
the
individual
that
they
want
them
to
respond
to
is
a
white,
male
or
african-american,
male
or
native
male.
W
The
officer
may
then
get
to
the
scene
and
after
observations
or
identification,
it
may
say
that
this
individual
is
actually
not
white,
but
native
and
the
officer
can
put
the
correct
race
in
there.
So
we're
able
to
track
the
caller's
initial
information
of
an
individual
race
as
well
as
the
officer
once
at
the
scene
and
confirms
it
I
see.
Y
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
chief
for
this
presentation.
I
want
to
ask
a
couple
of
questions
and
and
I
guess
the
the
first
one
is,
but
as
I
understand
it,
if
an
officer
sees
a
car
with
someone
in
it
that
they
decide
for
whatever
reason
they
want
to
talk
to
that
person,
they
want
a
chance
to
have
an
interaction
with
that
person.
They
think
something
might
be
out
if
there's
a
taillight
out,
they
can
use
that
pretext
for
it
to
be
illegal.
Stop,
but
it's
a
pretext.
Stop
right.
Y
Y
W
Kennel
councilman
Fletcher
I
want
to
be
careful
because
I'm
m:9
I'm
getting
into
the
mindset
of
the
employee
to
say
that
they're
doing
racially-motivated
our
officers
should
not
be
making
any
sort
of
engagement
within
our
community
based
upon
race
and
we're
very
adamant
that,
in
terms
of
our
policies
in
our
vision
statement,
and
that
should
never
be
tolerated
and
won't
be
tolerated
by
me.
So
that's
yeah!
That's
how
I
can
answer
and.
Y
When
we've
asked
about
this,
so
I
guess,
my
question
is:
if
we
were
to
do
a
moratorium
on
equipment
stops
on
equipment
violations
would
other
pretext
be
found
in
the
cases
where
we're
looking
for
pretext.
Would
we
end
up
I've
heard
somebody
say
you
really
can't
like
no
driver
can
drive
more
than
five
blocks
without
giving
an
officer
some
reason
to
pull
them
over
if
they
really
want
to
so
my
question
is:
do
we
fix
the
pretext
problem
by
doing
a
moratorium
on
equipment
violations?
If,
if
that's
the
community
concerns
being
brought
cheer.
W
Connell
councilmember
Fletcher,
so
I've
heard
the
conversation
surrounding
moratoriums,
as
as
chief
I
have
to
be
very.
Can
I
just
have
to
be
very
concerned
about
stopping
a
legitimate
police
practice
that
can
help
save
lives
and,
and
also
the
liability
from
nantes,
for
example,
and
perform
a
city,
and
so
I
have
not
had
a
season
with,
for
example,
some
of
my
team,
more
more
community-
that's
impacted
by
this,
and,
quite
frankly,
our
legal
counsel
with
the
city
I,
don't
know
what
that
would
look
like
so
yeah.
Y
Z
You,
madam
chair,
maybe
chief
so
I,
appreciate
the
the
data
and
I
think
this
is.
This
is
a
tremendous
asset
for
us
of
the
council
to
have
for
the
city
to
have
I
did
have
some
questions.
W
Z
AA
T
Guy,
that's
a
strategic
analysis
unit,
a
council
member.
This
is
just
a
screen.
Print
love
the
dashboard
in
the
functionality
of
the
dashboard
I.
Think
I
prefer
looking
at
it
on
the
tablet
sure
right,
but
where
you
can
actually
have
the
functionality
in
what
you
can
do,
what
we
could
do.
It
is,
if
you
click
on,
for
instance,
on
the
actual
operational
dashboard.
T
You
click
on
this
and
what
it
does
is
it
populates
okay
and
it
repopulate
there
all
these
categories
in
terms
of
whether
or
not
whether
or
not
the
vehicle
to
search
the
person
searches,
the
pre
stop
race,
as
well
as
the
race,
gender
and
all
of
these
disposition
codes,
and
then
you
know
in
this
particular
case
I
think
we're
looking.
We
have
designated
here
a
year.
It
also
shows
you
this
this
map,
but
as
well.
T
Z
T
Into
your
previous
question,
one
of
the
when
you're
asking
about
whether
or
not
it
can
be
changed
and
things
this
is
the
actual
this
fix-it
ticket-
oh
right
here.
This
is
actually
the
clearing
screen
from
the
officers
and
they
can
touch
these
these
areas
and
actually
fill
in
this
data.
Ok,
the
gun
recovery
is
something
that's
that
happens
mainly
in
the
reporting
system.
Report
management
system
rather
than
the
cad
system
comes
in
the
this
is
in
the
computerized
dispatch,
yeah
I.
Z
Z
Want
to
see
people
who
are
turning
when
they
shouldn't
turn
on
a
red
or
speeding
through
our
neighbor
I
know
my
my
constituent
style
I'll
be
able
to
just
speed
through
the
neighborhood
and
those
kinds
of
things,
but
with
that
focus
on
equipment
violations.
You
know,
you
know,
I,
guess
my
question
and
what
I
would
want.
You
know,
hopefully
for
us
to
for
the
public
to
gain
a
better
understanding
of
is
what
what
are
the
implications
as
far
as
life
safety.
Z
If
we
were
to
remove
that
tool
and
I
think
that's
sort
of
a
question
that
a
lot
of
people
who
showed
up
today
are
asking
you
know
is
of
course
traffic
enforcement
it
in
its
whole
presence.
You
know,
you
know
various
forms
of
life
safety.
You
know
we're
able
to
preserve
life
through
making
sure
that
people
aren't
speeding
down
our
streets
through
making
sure
that
people
aren't
turning.
Z
You
know
sometimes
we're
protecting
others,
sometimes
we're
protecting
the
driver
themselves
from
themselves
if
they're
driving
irresponsibly,
but
in
terms
of
the
the
threat
to
the
public
that
a
taillight
might
broken.
Taillight
might
present.
You
know
versus
some
of
the
some
of
the
anecdotal
experience
that
we've
we've
testimony
that
we've
heard
today.
What
are
what
are
we
gaining
in
terms
of
preservation
of
life
when
it
comes
to
enforcing
equipment,
violations
versus
what
are
we
losing
and
what
are
we
eroding
in
terms
of
trust
and
and
and
we
all
work
in
policy?
Z
We
all
know
that
you
know
we
can
have
great
policies
at
a
high
level
and
then,
once
you
know,
what's
that
interpersonal,
that
interpersonal
react
inter
interaction
between
an
officer
and
and
civilian,
it's
a
lot
harder
Brett,
it's
hard,
it's
impossible
for
us
to
track
it's
hard
for
you
to
track.
You
know.
But,
but
what
are
we
getting?
You
know
if
we
were
to
eliminate
or
limit
great
or
limit
this
tool,
what
would
be
losing
in
terms
of
preserving
life
versus
what
will
we
be
gaining
in
building
trust
or
that
kind
of
things
so
yeah.
W
Chair
kind
of
comes
Braille,
sand,
I
think
that
is
an
absolutely
great
point
so
earlier,
when
the
question
was
asked
of
me
about
considering
mortising
I
again
these
that's
exactly
why
I
want
to
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
spared
a
lot
of
passion
behind
this
discussing
about
moratorium,
I
need
to
make
sure
that
I've
examined
and
explored
all
of
those
considerations
on
behalf
of
those
people
that
in
our
communities
it
could
be
impacted
by
it.
You
mentioned
the
trust,
piece
and
I
think
so
I
will
I
will
I
will
share
that.
W
There
is
a
recent
research
study
that
looked
at
cities
that
were
most
impacted
by
gun
violence,
one
of
the
key
things
that
those
community
members
who
were
impacted
by
gun
violence,
not
homicides,
but
shootings.
One
of
the
key
things
that
eroded
trust
for
them
was
that
the
police
department,
because
of
a
volume
of
those
cases,
could
not
properly
investigate
those
cases
in
those
individuals
who
had
committed
harm
to
those
community
members
we're
still
walking
in
about
their
communities
that
had
a
direct
impact
on
the
trust
between
those
that
police
department
in
the
community.
W
I
need
to
make
sure
before
I
pull
any
tool
off
the
table
that
that
won't
also
impact,
or
he
wrote
the
trust
of
those
communities
that
are
impacted
by
perhaps
traffic
or
vehicle
or
pedestrian
safety.
So
I'm
not
saying
that
the
conversation
is
an
ax
valid
one.
It
is
a
valid
one.
That's
why
we're
here,
but
we
talk
about
trust
to
me
to
simply
pull
off
a
I.
Think
I
need
to
engage
more
of
our
community
I.
W
Think
I
need
to
listen,
more,
learn,
more,
be
educated
and
make
sure
that
in
the
ultimate
I'm
doing
what's
right
and
I
think
we
can
have
two
conversations,
because
there
is
a
historical
trauma
that
is
associated
with
traffic
stops
in
our
city.
I
absolutely
understand
that,
but
I
don't
want
to
be
quick
to
just
pull
something
off.
The
data
needs
to
tell
our
story.
We
need
to
do
a
deeper
dive,
in
my
opinion,
so
yeah.
Z
AB
Neighborhoods
and
third
Precinct,
and
in
the
fifth
Precinct
and
because
of
the
35w
project
that
is
currently
happening
in
and
throughout
the
war,
my
constituents
are
begging
for
more
traffic
enforcement,
and
so
in
it
it
really
is.
As
some
people
have
mentioned.
These
issues
are
dramatically
highlighted
by
the
shooting
yesterday
from
a
routine
traffic
accident,
people
are
just
really
frustrated
with
being
on
the
roads
and
being
sort
of
I
guess
inconvenienced
by
road
construction
and
snow
ice.
The
things
that
we
live
with
him
every
day.
W
W
W
Many
of
them,
you
probably
know
for
Rome
brown
men,
lose
to
Musashi
cotton
to
work
with
both
doing
the
two
tracks
identifying
those
group
members
who
are
on
probation,
who
are
who
have
committed
violence
in
our
communities
and
we're
receiving
also
intelligence
that
they
may
also
be
whether
it's
retaliatory
shooting
or
what-have-you
they're
focused
on
gathering
that
intelligence
working
with
our
GDI
members
and
and
and
basically
going
where
that
propensity
violence
is
occurring
in
our
city.
So
that
is
why
you
see
the
discrepancy,
so
both
are
get
team.
W
Members
are
also
conducting
traffic
stops
in
our
city,
as
well
as
conducting
both
those
vehicle,
searches
and
person
searches.
So
they
make
up
the
bulk
of
the
searches
that
you're
seeing
in
this
map.
Having
this
graphic
indicated,
they
do
far
more
as
you
see
than
any
other
precinct,
because
they
have
by
the
way
the
other
lines
you
see
for
the
precincts.
Those
are
typically
just
the
primary
district
squads,
making
a
traffic
stop
a
speeding.
Stop.
W
You
see
a
u-turn,
illegal
u-turn,
they're,
making
those
the
Gang
Enforcement
Team
is
both
conducting
TL
A's
they're
they're,
primarily
doing
that
based
on
perhaps
intelligence.
They
can
still
see
through
their
observation
if
they're
seeing
a
traffic
stop
or
motor
vehicle
violation
or
a
moving
violation,
they're
making
those,
but
they
are
primarily
working
where
they
have
the
discretion.
They
have
the
time
to
go
out
and
try
to
reduce
harm
in
our
communities.
So
that's
hope
they
explain
it,
but
that's
the
discrepancy,
so
they
are
making
vehicle
searches,
person,
searches,
that's
what
they're
that's
doing
so.
AB
W
Counter
to
council
vice
president
Jenkins,
it
can
be
a
myriad
of
things.
It
can
be
a
more
frequent
search
incident
to
an
arrest,
and
so
they
could
stop
someone
for
DUI
and
in
that
perhaps
doing
also
a
vehicle
inventory
search.
They
could
make
a
traffic
stop
based
on
a
moving
violation.
They
may
have
individuals
in
the
car
that
have
warrants
before
taking
into
jail
or
transporting
them.
They
can
do
a
search
of
the
person.
W
There's
a
there's
kind
of
a
host
of
different
things
in
which
the
officers
can
can
engage
in
either
vehicle
or
person
search,
for
example,
argot
team.
They
may
end
up
having
information
or
Intel
that
there
was
a
shooter
recently
involved
in
a
shooting
and
they
observe
a
traffic
violation.
That
person
is
known
to
carry
weapons
and
they
may
do
a
pat
search
that
person
and
do
a
search
and
recover
a
weapon
or
what
have
you
so
it
can.
It
can
vary
based
upon
the
circumstance.
AB
W
W
There's
there's
no
reason
to
do
that.
I
think
that
erodes
trust,
and
so
it's
important
for
me
as
chief
to
listen
in
here
from
all
of
our
constituents.
Everybody
who
spoke
today
is
concerned.
They
want
to
live
and
safer
communities.
They
want
to
to
have
a
police
department
that
they
trust
and
can
look
upon
that
their
children
can,
and
so
that's
what
this
conversation
that's
what
this
dad
is
doing.
It's
prompting
a
discussion
about
how
we
can
do
it
by
the
way
I
should
I
should
know
that
traffic
enforcement
is
just
one
tool.
W
It's
just
one
tool
that
we
use.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
the
only
tool,
so
it's
cheap,
I'm,
absolutely
open
to
to
talking
to
those
most
impacted
our
communities
and
asking
them.
What
are
some
other
ways
you'd
like
to
see
us
help
reduce
and
work
with
you
to
collaborate
to
reduce
crime
in
your
communities?
So
I
don't
have
an
answer
that
I
think
I've
respect
for
our
communities.
I
want
to
listen
in
hear
from
them.
I
think
they
may
have
some
wonderful
ideas,
but
I
I.
W
It's
one
tool.
The
traffic
enforcement
is
just
one
tool
it
certainly,
as
you
mentioned
council
vice-president
in
your
ward
yeah,
you
got
some
of
your
constituents.
That
say
we
need
it.
They're
begging
for
it.
There
are
others
who
want
to
maybe
perhaps
see
it
utilized
differently
and
so
I'm
absolutely
open
to
having
those
conversations.
So.
W
My
eyes
are
bad
I'm,
so
sorry
so
I'm
for
the
record
Shere
Khan
Allah.
She
said
that
not
me
so
council
vice
president
Jenkins,
as
you
can
note
from
the
the
screen,
even
though
our
traffic
enforcement
has
decreased
substantially,
our
proactivity
has
not,
and
I
also
want
to
note
that
we
are
able
to
indicate
we
have
for
the
last
couple
of
years.
We've.
You
know
what
you
value,
you
measure
we
track
positive
engagement
and
that
has
continued
to
increase.
So
that
being
said,
I
still
want
to
to
your
very
important
question.
W
AB
Just
want
to
lift
up
you
know.
Some
of
the
comments
that
have
been
stated
here
is
that
you
know
this
violence
is
happening
in
predominantly
ethnic
American
communities
is
impacting
predominantly
African,
American
people
and
it's
being
perpetrated
in
many
instances,
but
predominantly
by
African
American
people,
and
we
have
to
address
that
problem
as
well.
Y
Y
Y
Just
I
I
just
want
sure
I'm,
really
appreciative
of
the
community
members
who
came
here
today
and-
and
we
heard
a
variety
of
perspectives
and
they're
all
really
important
perspectives
and
I.
Think
one
of
the
things
that
we
heard
is
a
need
for
culture
change,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
to
be
able
to
do
as
part
of
our
culture
change
is
to
be
able
to
challenge
tactics
without
turning
into
a
defensive
frame
of
your
either
for
the
police
or
you're
against
the
police.
Y
You
either
care
about
violence
or
you're,
listening
to
reformers
and
those
things
are
pitted
against
each
other
and
they
cannot
be
pitted
against
each
other.
We
have
to
both
care
about
gun,
violence
in
our
communities
and
be
able
to
question
tactics
and
question
strategies
and
ask:
is
this
getting
to
the
right
place?
Y
That's
that's
where
our
leadership
role
comes
in
right,
I
mean
that's
where
your
leadership
role
comes
in
is
that
we
have
to
be
able
to
look
at
this,
and
so
what
we
know
based
on
the
data
we
have
and
I'll
say,
I
want
to
just
to
be
responsive
to
the
folks
who
came
here
asking
for
a
moratorium.
Now,
let's
say
we're
not
ready
to
do
that
today
and
we
need
to
do
a
deeper
dive
on
the
data
and
I.
Y
If
my
math
is
right,
we
did
40,000
stops
to
get
97
guns,
so
0.25
percent
of
the
traffic
stops
resulted
in
seizing
a
weapon.
So
to
put
that
into
context.
If
we,
if
we
do
400
traffic
stops,
we
have
one
gun
and
we
have
300
and
people
who
trust
the
police
a
little
less
and
feel
like
they
got
profile.
I
mean
that's
a
little
bit
of
an
oversimplification,
but
that's
what
the
data
looks
like
it
shows
me.
Does
that
sound
about
right
in
terms
of
the
numbers
chair.
W
Kennel
customer
Fletcher
I
would
only
push
back
in
the
the
notion
that
the
traffic
stops
alone
were
just
utilized
to
recover
guns
when
people
are
violating
traffic
speeds,
rolling
down,
sights
streets
or
residential
streets
at
a
clip
where
kids
are
playing
in
the
street.
Dui
enforcement
so
I
just
think
that
the
the
premise
is
that
we
are
only
conducting
traffic
law
enforcement
to
recover
guns
is
not
accurate
of
the
traffic
stops
that
we
did
were
recovered
guns
absolutely,
but
but
our
traffic
enforcement
isn't
based
upon
solely
just
recovering
guns.
W
Y
Will
say
this,
though
I
think
part
of
the
reason
this
is
coming
up
and
I
want
to
be
real,
clear
because
I
take
become
so
much.
President
Jenkins
comments
very
seriously
and
I'll
say
my
constituents
are
saying
the
same
thing.
We
are
feeling
the
lack
of
traffic
enforcement
for
the
sake
of
traffic
enforcement
and
I
think
when
you
see
that
the
number
go
down
as
substantially
as
it
has
we've
dropped
with
70%
in
our
traffic
enforcement
stuff.
So
I
think
part
of
why
this
is
coming
up.
Y
Is
that
the
pretext
stops
used
to
be
an
understandable
pretext,
because
we
were
doing
actual
traffic
enforcement.
We
were
pulling
people
over
when
we
just
saw
them
doing.
You
know
turning
right
on
red
when
they
weren't
supposed
to
or
blowing
through
a
traffic
light
and
I.
Don't
think
anybody
believes
that
that's
really
happening
much
anymore,
I
mean
I,
can
tell
you
like
I.
Y
Have
people
routinely
try
to
assassinate
me
with
their
vehicles,
while
I'm
trying
to
walk
my
dog
to
gold,
metal,
part
and
I
have
never
seen
like,
even
when
I
like
I'm
calling
the
precinct
and
asking
for
it,
I
mean
it's
something
that
we've
been
talking
about
in
the
first
and
second
precinct.
You
know
all
kinds
of
ways
that
we're
not
protecting
pedestrians
that
were
not
protecting
bicyclists
that
were
not
actually
managing
traffic
to
manage
traffic.
Y
So
it
feels
like
right
now
a
much
higher
percentage
of
the
stops
that
we're
doing
are
pretext
and
the
pretext
is
almost
is
almost
the
tail
in
the
dog
now
in
is
sort
of
what?
If
what
it
feels
like
in
the
data,
so
I
want
to
just
really
challenged
us
to
be
honest
with
people
about.
Why
are
we
doing
traffic
stops?
When
are
we
putting
hours
into
doing
traffic
stops?
Y
W
Chair
county
councillor,
Fletcher
I,
absolutely
agree
with
you.
I
agree
with
you
so
much
that
I
will
use
this
opportunity
to
say
the
read
the
notion
of
2013
when
we
dissolved
their
citywide
traffic
unit
I'm
here
today
to
say:
I
would
absolutely
support
us
getting
resources
to
have
a
citywide
traffic
unit.
That
means
more
police
resources,
and
so
I
would
absolutely
be
open
to
that,
and
that
may
be
another
alternative
that
we
just
talked
about
today,
and
that
may
be
something
that
the
community
may
support
too.
Y
And
and
here's
where
this
becomes
so
important
to
find
a
solution
to
the
problem
that
the
community
is
raising
today,
is
that
right
now
we
are
going
to
be
very
torn
between.
Do
we
dedicate
those
resources
that
we
know
some
of
our
constituents
want
and
do
we
feel
like
we're,
subjecting
even
more
people
to
biased,
unsafe
searches
by
adding
more
resources,
and
so
until
we
can
build
trust
until
we
can
convince
people
that
this
is
working?
Well,
that's
going
to
be
a
very
hard
conversation.
Y
It
is
something
that,
for
safety
reasons
we
need
so
whether
we
get
to
moratorium
or
not
whether
that
ends
up
being
the
solution.
Once
we
dig
into
the
data
that
that
makes
sense,
we
need
we
need
to
see
solutions
and
we
need
to
see
ways
that
we
can
reassure
people
that
that
they're
not
being
unfairly
targeted,
and
we
need
to
not
be
defensive
and
not
turn
this
into
a
you
know
the
the
response
to
a
conversation
like
this
cannot
be,
but
there's
really
good
policing
happening
at
the
encampment
gosh.
There
was
like
the
sergeant's
night.
Y
He
did
an
unbelievable
job
with
that
work
and
the
third
Precinct
and
an
unbelievable
job
with
a
lot
of
that
work.
This
doesn't
undermine
that.
It's
also
that's
not
a
response
to
this
right,
we're
asking
about
tactic
and
a
set
of
strategies,
and
it's
very
important
that
does
not
become
a
defensive
conversation
about.
Are
there
some
good
things
happening
with
MPD?
Of
course
there
are
it's
got
to
be
about.
You
know.
How
is
this
working
for
us
right
now.
W
Chair
camel
customer
Fletcher
absolutely
agree
with
you,
the
the
conversation
if
we
are
ever
going
to
evolve
and
move
the
Minneapolis
Police
Department
into
a
space
where
our
communities
truly
trust
us.
We
have
to
have
these
conversations
and
they
shouldn't
be
defensive.
There's
much
that
I
can
learn
and
educate
myself
on
through
the
and
many
I
have
people
were
very
passionate
about
this
year
and
so
I
absolutely
agree
with
you
and
I
and
I
do
believe.
There's
alternatives,
everything
we
can
look
at
so
yeah.
X
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
I,
don't
mean
to
keep
on
going
because
I
know
there's
in
order
past
our
scheduled
time,
but
something
that
was
curious
about
as
we
look
at
choices
we've
made
in
the
past
and
the
impact
that
that's
had
is
I
understand.
This
was
on
the
under
different
leadership.
But
can
you
tell
us
why
did
we
dissolve
the
MPD
traffic
enforcement
unit?
Was
that
a
resource
constraint
or
what
is
it
that
led
to
the
dissolve
dissolving
of
that
unit?.
W
AB
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
know
that
there
was
a
community
meeting
a
few
weeks
ago
and
councilman
reflector
attendant
I,
believe
that
representatives
from
your
department,
deputy
T
night,
maybe
or
high-level
police
officer,
was
there
we're
there
any
solutions
or
discussed
at
that
meaning
from
community.
That
you're,
aware
of
was
their
report
back
from
that
committee
from
that
community
meeting
that
listed
some
recommendations
from
the
community
chair.
W
Carlton
council
vice
president
Jenkins,
deputy
chief
Knight,
briefed
me
on
kind
of
the
summary
of
the
forum
he
said
was
well
attended,
some
very
good,
thoughtful
conversations
and
to
Cosmo
Fletcher's
point
about
how
do
we
build
trust
that,
for
some
some
in
our
community,
the
traffic
engagement
has
been
something
that
has
created
trauma
to
some
the
his
the
moratorium
was
brought
up.
I
did
not
receive
any
sort
of
report
or
anything
like
that,
but
I
think
it
was
to
engage
in
more
of
this
conversation
around
the
subject.
So.
A
Well,
I
just
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
being
a
part
of
this
conversation
in
such
a
present
way.
I
know
that
this
discussion
has
been
going
on
at
least
internally
for
a
couple
of
months
now,
where
the
mayor's
office
has
been
really
active.
Your
office
has
been
really
active.
Certainly,
council
members
have
been
engaging
with
this
issue
and
connecting
with
residents
on
this
topic.
I
will
just
want
to
share
with
my
colleagues
here
that
I've
been
digging
a
little
bit
deeper
on
the
slide.
A
That
mentioned
the
lack
of
safety
for
pedestrians
and
bicyclists,
as
well
as
vehicles
with
I,
think
it's
Oh,
it
doesn't
have
a
number
slide
number
10,
so
I
wanted
to
you
know.
A
We
know
the
mayor's
office
has
has
in
vocal
and
saying
that,
like
you
just
mentioned
more
community
engagement
on
this
issue
is
needed,
especially
in
and
by
and
with
the
communities
who
are
directly
impacted,
so
I'm,
very
thankful
that
we've
had
this
discussion
and
and
I
do
just
want
to
add
that
you
know
in
my
award
the
the
questions
that
I
get
most
around
this
kind
of
issue.
Is
you
know
why
aren't
we
taking
those
some
of
those
cars
off
the
street
because
folks
feel
so
overburdened
with
the
drug
activity?
A
That's
going
on
in
the
neighborhood,
the
soliciting
that's
happening
on
on
women
and
young
girls,
and
so
I
often
get
a
lot
of
messages
with
photos
of
cars
that
people
know
are
actively
involved
in
criminal
activity
in
the
neighborhood
and
and
they
kind
of
pull
their
hair
out
at
me
and
at
the
city
saying,
why
aren't
you
doing
enough
and
so
I
feel
like
this?
Is
such
a
dynamic
discussion
and
we
really
do
need
to
figure
out
what
is
the
intended
outcome?
A
What
is
the
best
way
to
get
to
those
outcomes
and
the
best
way
to
use
our
resources,
certainly
looking
at
ways
to
fund
the
Traffic
Unit
you
know
is
something
that
we
should
discuss
with
the
mayor
further
just
to
see
what
is
that?
What
does
that
look
like
in
a
budgetary
process?
What
does
that
look
like
when
it
could
be
perceived
by
the
public
as
an
addition
or
a
growth
in
the
police
department,
which
we
all
know,
is
a
sensitive
discussion
in
our
city?
A
Right
now,
so
so
with
that,
I
want
to
say
that
we're
gonna
continue
to
engage
on
this
on
this
topic
and
there's
already
been,
you
know
a
few
emails
going
back
and
forth
about
next
steps,
and
so
if
there
are
no
more
questions
or
comments
here
today,
we
can
thank
our
community
for
being
here.
We
can
thank
our
staff
for
this
and
we
do
have
another,
a
presentation
item
and
we're
already
at
12:30,
so
so
appreciate
your
chief
and
thanks
for
being
here.
So
without
further
questions.
AC
All
right
good
afternoon,
chair
Cano
and
council
members,
my
name
is
Scott
girlier
commander
here
with
the
MPD,
and
we
were
invited
to
come,
give
a
presentation,
a
brief
presentation
on
our
citywide
public
safety
camera
system,
as
well
as
a
few
other
technologies
which
I'll
allude
to
here
in
the
presentation
and
just
the
qualifier.
As
we
talked
about
this,
the
public
safety
cameras
were
referring
to
are
just
that
public
safety
cameras,
primarily
the
ones
you
see
mounted
on
street
lights
and
polls
throughout
the
city.
AC
It's
not
to
discuss
or
review
our
body,
worn
cameras
or
a
squat
video,
but
the
public
safety
cameras.
So
I
just
wanted
to
offer
that
clarification.
So
just
a
little
bit
of
history
for
you
on
the
public
safety
cameras,
if
you
weren't
familiar,
we
started
implementing
these
back
in
2002
in
downtown
Minneapolis
through
collaboration
of
Sidman
City
Minneapolis,
the
downtown
Council,
as
well
as
Target
Corporation,
it's
kind
of
a
pilot
project
and
from
that
point
it
expanded
as
you're
well
aware
to
other
areas
of
the
city
in
all
five
of
our
police
precincts.
AC
Currently,
we
have
212
fixed
public
safety
cameras
out
there
in
the
city
that
includes
17
provided
to
us
by
Verizon,
which
I'll
elaborate
a
little
bit
more
in
a
few
slides.
In
addition
to
that,
we
have
15
portable
camera
trailers,
which
I'm
sure
many
of
you
have
seen
in
and
around
those
are
very
instrumental
for
short-term
crime
issue.
They're
special
events
where
we're
able
to
wheel,
went
out
to
a
particular
area
and
put
up
the
mast
with
the
camera
on
it
and
instantly
connect
to
our
camera
network.
AC
We've
had
a
lot
of
great
feedback
on
the
camera
system
from
the
community,
as
we
kind
of
made
the
decision
over
the
years
as
to
where
these
cameras
would
go.
A
lot
of
those
decisions
were,
in
large
part
due
to
feedback
and
input
from
the
community
itself
as
to
the
locations
along
with,
certainly
looking
at
things
like
and
calls
for
service
and
general
activity
in
traffic.
We.
AB
AC
AB
AC
Of
mean
here
they
are
the
camera
types
that
we
do
have.
Those
are
primarily
the
two
units,
the
one
on
top
there
you
see,
those
are
the
ones
that
are
fixed
and
mounted
on
street
poles,
either
city-owned
or
Excel
power
poles
throughout
the
city
212
of
those.
Currently,
those
are
all
pan
tilt,
zoom
360
degrees.
So
not
only
do
we
see
one
fixed,
let's
say
intersection,
but
we
do
have
the
ability
to
pan
tilt
zoom
and
see
what
might
be
happening
around
that
particular
area.
AC
They're,
all
high
definition,
quality
and
all
of
our
cameras
are
either
connected
at
one
of
two
methods,
either
in
the
city's
fiber
optic
network,
primarily
in
the
downtown
neighborhood.
Otherwise,
through
us
IWR
citywide
internet
system,
the
portable
cameras,
you
see
a
picture
there
as
well
again
we
have
15
of
those
and
again,
those
are
either
diesel-powered
battery-powered
or
a
hybrid,
where
the
battery
until
the
battery
gets
low
and
diesel
comes
on
to
charge
it
up
and
again,
those
are
all
connected
using
our
citywide
internet
system.
AC
So
the
video
itself
and
the
retention
period
that
we
have
all
the
video
that
we
have
is
always
recording
and
it's
captured
on
our
milestone
video
management
system
on
a
city
server.
It's
kept
there
for
14
days.
That's
a
state-approved
retention
period
that
we've
had
since
the
inception
of
the
cameras
back
in
2002
after
that
14
period,
that's
automatically
overwritten
and
deleted.
AC
AC
If
there
is
a
case
and
oftentimes,
there
are
cases
where
we
get
a
call,
let's
say
after
the
fact,
from
an
investigator
who
is
investigating
a
robbery
in
a
particular
intersection.
We're
able
to
go
back
and
check
the
cameras
in
if
it
is
video
that
relates
to
that
particular
case.
We
were
able
to
take
that
a
video
clip
and
download
that
onto
a
DVD
or
a
thumb,
drive
and
inventory
that
and
then
that
video
is
kept
consistent
with
retention
period
for
that
case,
that
crime
itself
so
who
can
access
some
view?
AC
The
cameras,
all
the
cameras
are
displayed
at
each
of
our
police,
precincts
primarily
on
screens
at
the
front
desk,
as
well
as
our
strategic
information
center
up
at
the
Emergency
Operations
and
training
facility.
It's
public
video
and
it's
subject
to
the
Minnesota
government
data
Practices
Act.
So
unless
it's
part
of
an
active
criminal
investigation
where
we
actually,
you
know
capture
some
evidence
of
a
crime,
we
protect
that
particular
piece
of
video,
but
other
than
that.
AC
All
the
video
that
is
captured
is
being
public
information
if
there
are
records
requests
and
we
occasionally
do
get
those
or
costs
those
come
through.
Our
MPD
records
unit
and
they're
able
to
accomplish
that
and
release
that
video
a
little
hard
to
see
here.
But
this
is
just
a
map
that
we
just
updated
with
all
of
our
fixed
camera
locations
throughout
the
city.
You
can
see
kind
of
a
large
section
in
Northside
of
Minneapolis
downtown
has
quite
a
few
cameras.
AC
Each
of
the
precincts
really
has
cameras
and,
as
you
can
see,
they
really
are
primarily,
but
not
always
primarily
in
those
major
corridors.
If
you
look
at
the
fourth
Precinct,
you
see
kind
of
a
square
around,
you
know
Penn
Avenue,
Lowry,
Broadway
and
then
downtown
Minneapolis.
Most
of
the
major
thoroughfares
in
downtown
Minneapolis
are
covered
as
well
as.
If
you
look
down
in
fifth
and
third
precinct,
you
see
a
lot
of
cameras
along
the
the
Greenway,
as
well
as
on
Franklin
Avenue,
bloom,
an
avenue
and
in
some
other
areas
throughout
the
city
as
well.
AC
AC
Part
of
that
is
Verizon,
provided
us
with
at
the
time
20
cameras
the
access
cameras,
like
you,
see
up
on
the
screen
there
no
charge
to
date.
They
put
those
up
and
install
those
for
us
currently,
there's
17
of
those
that
are
still
active
in
downtown
Minneapolis.
Three
were
removed
by
Verizon
due
to
construction,
they're
the
same
camera
going
into
the
same
video
management
system
as
all
of
our
other
cameras,
there's
literally
no
difference
to
those
those
cameras
itself.
AC
They
are
interested
in
at
some
point
offering
those
to
us
at
a
reduced
rate
that
would
save
us
some
money
if
we
chose
to
keep
those
cameras
and
on
the
map
that
previously,
if
you
look
at
downtown
Minneapolis,
there's
some
orange
dots
wheedle
it
it
Dillion
delineate.
Excuse
me,
the
Verizon
cameras
in
orange,
so
you
can
see
the
locations
of
those
cameras
primarily
along
either
Washington
Avenue
and
Marquette
Avenue,
which
were
some
of
the
major
thoroughfares
for
day
to
day,
but
also
during
Super
Bowl
52.
AC
The
other
technology
that
we
procured
prior
to
Super
Bowl
still
are
using
is
something
called
field
watch,
there's
a
screenshot
of
a
it's
a
phone
application
that
goes
on
our
police
officers,
City
cell
phones
and
we
are
able
to
have
them
log
in
primarily
for
a
special
event
like
the
Super
Bowl,
where
we
had
thousands
of
Public
Safety
officers
all
over
Minneapolis
and
other
areas,
and
once
they
log
in
it
really
is
like
uber
for
people.
Honestly,
you
see
dots
on
the
screen,
such
as
a
seat
here
and
those
are
all
either
units.
AC
On
the
right
hand,
side
you
see
a
different
selectors
where
we
can
turn
or
turn
on
or
turn
off.
Whatever
groups
are
out
there
working
on
foot
and
we're
able
to
see
the
exact
location
of
where
those
officers
are,
as
they
are
walking
down
the
street
and
actually
see
the
dots
with
those
call
signs
or
those
officers.
Moving
down
the
street
so
at
all
times
from
a
command
post
perspective,
had
a
good
idea
of
where
those
officers
were
and
in
the
event
that
there
was
a
significant
incident
that
they
wanted
to
capture.
AC
They
were
able
to
use
the
camera
on
their
cell
phone
and
a
pain
would
open
up
on
the
same
screen.
That
would
show
us
exactly
what
they
were
looking
at:
a
live
feed
in
the
command
post,
so
if
they
were
following
a
suspicious
person
or
suspect
in
a
crime
they're
able
to
provide
not
only
their
location
that
we
can
see
but
also
live
video,
as
they
are
seeing
that
that's
just
another
view
of
the
field
watch
used
on
a
tablet
form
then
geo.
AC
Comm
is
a
it's
really
a
3d
interior
and
exterior
and
mapping
system
that
also
integrates
integrates
various
sets
of
data.
In
that
we
have
3d,
interior
and
exterior
maps
and
camera
views
of
us,
Bank
Stadium,
all
of
our
MPD
cameras,
are
mapped
out
and
were
able
to
access
all
of
those.
The
field
watch
data
that
you
just
that's
able
to
be
integrated
onto
geo
comm,
as
well
as
all
of
our
police
calls
for
service
throughout
the
city
and
any
other
datasets
that
we
may
choose
to
provide.
AC
That
could
be
parade
routes
that
we
use
this
for
the
Twin
Cities
Marathon
and
drew
out
on
this
ArcGIS
platform
the
the
route
of
the
Twin
Cities
Marathon.
So
we
could
see
where
our
officers
were,
where
the
calls
were
service
were,
as
it
related
to
the
marathon
itself.
There's
some
screenshots
here
that
you
see
on
the
top
right
that
is
looking
at
the
camera,
shot
that
you
see
the
map
of
downtown
Minneapolis
and
then
there's
a
camera
shot,
probably
from
one
of
the
bridges
over
the
Mississippi.
AC
If
you
look
at
the
right
hand,
side,
those
are
again
kind
of
a
3d
look
ArcGIS
map
of
downtown
Minneapolis,
showing
locations
of
some
of
the
cameras
as
well
as
location
of
some
of
the
officers
and
then
on
the
bottom.
That's
for
the
X
Games.
They
actually
were
able
to
take
and
recreate
some
of
the
jumps
and
ramps
inside
US
Bank
Stadium,
and
we
can
zoom
in
or
zoom
out
and
isolate
certain
areas
of
US
Bank
Stadium.
So
we
can
see
from
an
emergency
response
perspective.
AC
AC
You
see
on
there
so
when
they
would
arrive
for
work
for
those
major
special
events,
they
would
simply
take
their
card
and
scan
in
at
our
scanning
station,
which
we
had
set
up
primarily
at
North,
Central
University,
and
once
he
did
so,
we
that
they
were
on
duty,
you
know,
would
pre-populate
to
their
assignments.
So
you
see,
on
the
lower
left
hand,
side
lists
of
officers.
AC
Those
are
officers
that
had
checked
in
for
the
day
and
were
on
assignment
when
that
was
at
the
convention
center
or
allowing
Nicollet
Mall
it's
Super,
Bowl
live
or
at
the
stadium
itself,
without
that
trying
to
track
to
3,000
first
responders
throughout
the
metro
is
almost
impossible
using
paper
and
pencils.
So
using
that
ID
card
system
was
a
way
to
truly
automate
that,
and
let
us
know
where
all
those
folks
were
and
then
at
the
end
of
they,
when
they
checked
out,
we
were
able
to
have
accountability.
To
know.
Did
that
officer
actually
leave?
AC
Y
AC
Y
And
then
I
actually
appreciate
and
I
think
it's
a
good
thing
that
we
have
a
14
day
retention
period
and
then
we're
getting
rid
of
the
data.
But
I
was
I
was
surprised
to
hear
because
it's
not
what
I
had
been
told
previously,
that
all
data
is
subject
to
the
Minnesota
government
data
practice.
Is
that
so
is
it?
Y
Is
it
the
case
that
say,
let's
say
you
want
to
stock
somebody,
and
you
know
that
they
walk
up
and
down
Washington
and
you
want
to
find
out
which
apartment
building
they're
going
into
could
I
request
the
camera
footage
from
Washington
Avenue
between
4:00
and
9:00
p.m.
for
the
three
cameras
that
cover
different
stretches
of
Washington,
just
as
a
as
an
ordinary
citizen
is
that
is
that
a
request
that
any
of
us
could
make
I.
AC
Suppose
that
would
be
certainly
possible.
We
are,
as
you
know,
bound
by
the
data
practices
and
really
all
government
information,
as
you're
well
aware,
is
considered
public
unless
there's
a
reason
to
keep
it
private,
but
I
guess
you
could
also
stand
on
Washington,
Avenue
and
watch
that
person
walk
as
well,
but
certainly
you
could
make
the
request
for
that
type
of
video
footage
and
as
long
as
there
wasn't
a
pending
investigation
or
some
other
some
other
reason
you
could
get
that
video
mm-hmm.
AB
Y
Y
AC
Y
And
then
in
relationship
to
the
decision
about
purchasing
the
Superbowl
cameras,
I
noticed
this
didn't
come
to
us
as
an
action
item.
So
what's
MPD's
view
on,
is
there
a
decision
to
be
made?
What's
the
council's
role
in
that?
How
are
we
deciding
whether
or
not
to
move
forward
on
Verizon's
offer
on
these
cameras
and
whether
they're
being
kept
or
taken
down?
Mr.
AC
Chair
councilmember,
Fletcher
I
think
at
this
point
we
were
asked
to
just
come
and
first
first
provide
information
to
the
council
on
the
cameras
that
we
have
and
I
think
the
next
step
would
be
for
us
to
have
some
conversations
and
then,
if
we
believe
that
it's
advantageous
for
us
to
keep
those
Verizon
cameras,
we
would
next
come
through
City
Council,
with
the
request
for
for
that
procurement.
But
we're
not
asking
for
that
today.
Okay,.
AB
Thank
You,
chair,
Connell
I
had
a
very
similar
facial
recognition
question,
but
that
has
been
answered
but
I'm
looking
at
the
locations
of
the
six
cameras
that
we
do
have,
and
we
have
mobile
units
as
well,
but
it
seems
like
there
are
highly
concentrated
in
areas
of
communities
of
color
and
just
curious.
How
that
handles
locations
have
been
determined.
AC
Yeah,
madam
chair
councilman,
council,
vice
president
Jenkins,
yes,
I
mean,
if
you
were
to
take
a
look
at
I,
guess
calls
for
service
and
crime
throughout
the
city
and
look
at
the
heat
map
of
where
that
is
taking
place.
The
camera
map
would,
in
most
cases,
mirror
that
which
includes
large
sections
in
North,
Minneapolis,
south
Minneapolis
and
certainly
downtown
Minneapolis
as
well,
but
it's
not
just
the
crime.
It's
also.
Where
are
the
people?
Where
is
the
traffic?
AC
Yes,
I
would
say
they're
very
similar
other
than
that
downtown
area
there,
but
yes,
I,
think
the
ShotSpotter
coverage
throughout
the
city
is
also
in
those
areas
where
we
would
most
likely
see
gun
fire.
Obviously
that
would
that's
our
first
and
foremost
qualification.
So
our
goal
here
is,
in
addition,
capturing
video
evidences
to
have
those
cameras
out
as
a
deterrent
and
I
think
that,
certainly,
if
folks
are
aware
that
those
cameras
are
out
there,
they're
gonna
be
less
likely,
logic
would
say
to
commit
a
crime
of
any
type.
A
In
recent
weeks
and
months,
neighborhood
residents
have
requested
the
mobile
cameras
in
areas
that
are
feeling
distressed
again,
and
one
issue
that
came
up
was
that
some
of
the
mobile
cameras,
or
maybe
all
because
of
the
weather
they
can't
be
out
during
the
winter
time
and
so
a
resident
just
kind
of
said
to
me.
Oh,
come
on.
We've
got
to
have
better
technology
than
this
that
you
know
that
it
can't
withstand
weather.
A
So
I
was
just
wondering
what
the
line
of
thinking
was
there
and
it
there
is
other
kinds
of
equipment
that
are,
they
are
available
for
the
mobile
cameras
and
if
there
are
plans
to
kind
of
upgrade
to
technology,
that's
not
so
susceptible
to
I,
don't
know
if
it
would
be
like
the
temperature
drops
or
if
it's
like
an
issue
of
like
fogginess
on
the
lens
or
if
it's
I
think
some
of
them
run
on.
Is
it
oil?
No
yeah.
AC
I
can
expend
about
that
chair
Cano,
so,
unfortunately,
those
cameras
are
susceptible
to
the
cold
weather.
They
are
very
good
spring
through
late
fall,
but
this
time
of
year
we
are
really
limited
by
a
few
different
things.
Number
one
is
of
course,
the
temperature
last
week,
being
the
worst
of
course,
but
so
for
the
most
part,
those
cameras
are
not
deployed
during
the
winter
months.
Those
15
cameras,
there's
rare
exceptions,
to
that.
AC
The
other
is
that
these
are
typically
cameras
that
are
put
up
on
streets
on
shoulders
and
they
tend
to
get
plowed
in
and
iced
in
and
once
they
do
that
they
caused
significant,
sometimes
damage
to
the
cameras
themselves.
Each
one
of
those
units
is
about
thirty
five
thousand
dollars,
and
so
certainly
we
do
have
a
you're
absolutely
right
that
we
do
have
a
lot
of
requests
from
communities,
especially
our
precinct
commanders,
who
see
those
as
a
great
way
on
a
short-term
basis,
to
try
to
address
an
emerging
crime
pattern.
AC
Where
will
that
be
a
crime
of
violence
or
a
property
crime
issue?
And
we
try
to
do
the
best
we
can
with
the
resources
that
we
do
have
we'd,
certainly
love
to
have
additional
resources
to
up
our
fleet
of
cameras.
There,
as
I
said,
there's
three
types
of
cameras:
the
diesel,
which
requires
somebody
to
go
out
and
start
that
Cameron
fill
it
with
diesel
fuel.
Those
are
very
limited
in
our
cold
temperatures
because
of
the
diesel
itself.
AC
The
battery
operated
cameras
are
simply
put
a
very
simply
a
whole
bunch
of
car
batteries
inside
a
metal
shell
and
just
like
our
car
batteries,
they
deplete
very
quickly
in
the
cold
weather
and
then
the
hybrid
is
the
same
battery
system
and
when
the
batteries
get
low,
the
diesel
is
supposed
to
start
to
charge
those
up
but
again
and
whether
that
doesn't
always
happen,
and
then
that
causes
damage
to
the
diesel
components
of
the
camera
itself.
So
we
do
our
best
to
try
to
manage
that.
AC
A
Certainly
provided
more
context
for
what
some
of
the
the
residents
are
you
know
complaining
about
is
that
they
want
these
cameras
there
to
to
feel
more
safe
and,
and
they
do
notice
a
positive
impact
when
they're
deployed
and
certain
hot
spots
of
the
city.
So
so
do
we
have
a
plan
to
kind
of
phase
out
kind
of
the
more
you
know,
I,
don't
I,
don't
know,
I
mean
the
only
word
that
comes
to
mind
is
clunky.
A
AC
We
are
limited,
the
technology
that's
currently
available
out
there,
and
that
is
the
technology
that
we
have
available
to
us,
as
technology
improves.
I
would
like
to
hope
that
the
reliability
and
cold
weather
would
improve,
and
also
the
cost
like
every
piece
of
technology
would
decrease.
So
we're
able
to
up
the
number
of
cameras
we
have
and
increase
the
level
of
deployment
and
the
ability
that
we
do
have.
So
this
is
not
old
technology.
AC
Y
You
chicano
and
thanks
for
this
presentation,
I
think
it'll
lead
some
people's
fears
about
some
of
the
things
that
were
worried
about
I
think
we
still
see
some
real
privacy
implications
from
these
cameras,
and
so
I
just
want
to
sort
of
Express
as
you're
thinking
about
both
these
cameras,
which
were
not
generated
by
us
proactively.
Thinking
about
where's
our
heat
map
and
where
days
normally
they
were
sort
of
generated
by
an
event,
but
but
even
in
general.
Y
I
think
is
very
important,
but,
as
we
add
new
technologies
or
contemplate
new
technologies,
that
we
continue
to
have
public
discussions
so
that
people
have
a
chance
to
weigh
in
and
understand,
what's
what's
happening
and
I
would
just
express
my
skepticism
about
the
purchase
of
the
Super
Bowl
cameras
as
you're.
Contemplating
that
coming
back
I
would
I
would
need
some
further
convincing
to
think
that
that
was
a
good
idea.
Thanks.
Madam.
AA
Assistant
Chief
Mike,
josa,
chair
Cano
and
vice
president
Jenkins
I
just
wanted
to
address.
You
had
a
question
about
placement
of
cameras
in
certain
parts
of
the
city.
When
the
cameras
originally
were
installed.
The
first
installment
was
downtown.
It
was
in
an
area
called
the
safe
zone,
longhand
upend
Nicollet
bought
it
from
Washington
to
12th
or
second
order,
Nicollet.
AA
That
was
the
first
testing
of
cameras
in
the
city
and
it
was
to
create
a
kind
of
a
mapped
out
area
that
we
could
kind
of
see
from
one
block
to
the
next.
The
next
expansion
was
Broadway
Avenue
on
the
north
side,
and
that
was
to
be
a
kind
of
a
secondary,
safe
zone
area,
because
Broadway
has
been
identified
for
many
years
as
the
highest
area
of
crime
rates,
it's
very
obvious
pocket
and
then
the
expansion
from
then
kind
of
fell
in
line
with
government
grants
federal
grants.
AA
If
you
look
at
North
Side
the
Port
Authority
up
there
there
his
grants
tied
to
the
pork
having
a
port
in
the
city,
so
all
the
bridges
that
went
over
the
Mississippi
and
the
roads
that
connected
to
the
port.
So
that's
why
Dowling
is
a
major
one.
Lyndale
is
one,
it
was
trucking
routes
and
that's
where
so
at
that
time
it
wasn't
necessarily
that
we
were
looking
for
a
specific
area
tied
to
crime
rates
or
anything
like
that.
It
was.
AA
There
was
federal
funds
that
were
wishing
to
have
cameras
that
monitored
port
and,
and
so
that's
what
kind
of
kicked
that
off
and
then
the
expansion
from
there
has
really
been
tied
to
citizens
and
complaints
of
crime
activity,
specific
intersections
or
maybe
some
things
taken
place
and
we
get
requests
weekly
around
the
city,
people
demanding
to
have
cameras,
and
it's
it's
really
been.
How
far
can
you
expand
and
maintain
what
you
have?
Do
you
have
enough
server
space?
You
have
enough
Internet
bandwidth
to
get
that
video
back
and
the
other
expansion
thing
has
been.
AA
Do
you
have
the
infrastructure
in
place
to
put
cameras?
Lake
Street
was
an
obvious
there's
infrastructure.
There
light
rail
places
that
they
installed
the
infrastructure,
it's
very
much
data
to
travel
and
it's
not
too
easy
to
get
that
data
from
one
place
to
another,
so
that
limits
as
far
as
cameras.
AB
AA
Connell
and
vise
person-
yes,
the
first
expansion
of
cameras
are
the
very
first
cameras
in
the
city.
Police,
Public,
Safety
cameras
were
donation
from
the
target,
Target
Corporation
paid
for
that
installation,
eventually
just
handed
them
over
to
the
the
city,
and
so
now
they
are
owned
by
the
city
and
they
have
actually
they've
all
been
replaced
over
time.
They
they
wear
out.
But,
yes,
it
does
come
out
of
budgets
at
this
point
to
replace
those
cameras.
AB
AA
Tear
Cano
and
vice-president
Jenkins,
so
there
are
two
real
monitoring
stations
in
the
city
that
actually
tried
to
do
some
sort
of
real-time
monitoring
it's
available
at
each
of
the
precinct
desks
or
if
they
have
a
viewing
station
set
up
in
the
precincts.
But
that's
only
as
you
have
staff
to
sit
there
and
monitor
the
two
full
time.
Locations
where
there
are
monitoring
is
the
strategic
information
center.
AA
Where
they've
got
access
to
all
the
cameras,
they
can
hear
radio
calls,
and
so,
when
they
hear
police
calls
coming
in,
they
can
then
either
pull
up
the
camera
or
they
have
the
camera
up
and
look
for
anything
and
they
can
notify
officers
that
are
arriving
or
coming
to
the
call,
either
on
foot
or
by
vehicle.
What
they're
seeing
so
they
kind
of
get
eyes
on
the
ground.
If
there's
cameras
and
then
the
other
monitoring
live
monitoring
is
for
the
most
part
in
the
first
precinct.
AA
They
have
a
viewing
station
there,
where
they'll,
in
mostly
in
the
evenings,
have
an
officer
kind
of
monitoring,
the
bar
crowds
that
are
taking
place
and
and
look
for
vulnerable
people.
Look
for
someone
that
may
be
out
looking
to
commit
a
crime
or
something
like
that,
and
then
they
can
notify
officers
that
are
either
beat
officers
or
squad
patrols.
You
know
of
things
they're,
seeing
out
there
and
also
they're
listening
the
radio
and
they
can
kind
of
let
officers
have
a
view
of
what
they're
seeing
before
they
arrive
or
proactively
look
for
probable
locations.
AA
One
of
the
areas
downtown
where
there's
been
a
significant
amount
of
drug
dealing
in
that
is
a
Ethan
Hennepin
is
one
of
those
locations.
There's
been
a
lot
of
complaints
of
drug
dealing
there
over
by
Salvation
Army.
You
know
its
complaint,
so
they
can
kind
of
proactively
keep
those
cameras
up
and
just
and
see
if
there's
anything
going
on
there
and
try
to
prevent
things.
A
Y
You
just
clarify
it
the
first
Precinct
my
understanding
was
that
a
lot
of
the
monitoring
is
done
in
public
private
partnership
and
that
that's
still
donated
staff
time
from
the
downtown
Council
or
di
D.
So
it's
not
always
MPD
making
doing
that
monitoring
work
or
making
judgment
calls
about
there's
at
least
a
couple
of
cameras
that
are
aimed
and
they're
Aimable
and
focused
and
and
zoomable
right.
So
there's
some
some
of
them
out
of
control
as
a
part
of
the
monitoring
that
happens
out
of
the
first
precinct
as
well
as
my
understanding
is
that
correct.
AA
Chair
con
own
councillor,
Fletcher
just
said,
is
accurate.
The
di
D
does
have
staff
that
they
have
a
monitoring
center
and
a
dispatch
center
inside
the
first
Precinct,
and
they
do
monitor
cameras
at
that
location
and
when
their
staff
calls
in
situations
they
like
to
pull
up
the
camera
that
they
can
see
what
their
staff
is
dealing
with.
That's
the
D
I
D
people
downtown
that
are,
you
know,
picking
up
garbage
in
liaisons
for
our
city.