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From YouTube: January 24, 2019 Zoning & Planning Committee
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Minneapolis Zoning & Planning Committee Meeting
A
Good
morning,
I'm
gonna
call
the
order
this
regular
meeting
of
the
zoning
and
planning
committee
for
Thursday
January
24th.
My
name
is
Jeremy
Schrader
and
I'm.
The
chair
of
this
committee
with
me
at
the
Dyess,
our
council
president
bender
councilmember
Goodman
and
councilmember
Gordon.
Let
the
record
reflect
that
we
have
a
quorum.
The
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
appointments
of
the
Zoning
Board
of
adjustments
for
a
three-year
term,
beginning
January,
1st
2019
and
ending
December
31st
2021.
A
B
A
Thank
you
to
see
if
there's
any
questions
from
my
colleagues
seeing
none
I
just
want
to
see.
If
there
is
anyone
that,
like
to
speak
to
these
appointments,
not
seeing
anyone
I'm
going
to
now
well,
actually,
I
need
to
open
the
hearing
first
and
I'll
see
if
anyone
wants
to
speak,
seeing
no
one
I'm
going
to
now
close
the
earing
with
that
I'll
move
to
refer
number
1.1
back
to
staff
and
approve
1.2,
which
is
the
reappointments
of
Erik,
Johansson
and
Richard
Sandberg.
Is
there
any
discussion,
councilmember
Goodman
Thank.
C
You
mr.
chair,
you
know,
I
have
a
constituent
who
serves
on
this
panel
and
I.
Think
it's
a
really
hard
thing
to
do
and
I'm
grateful
that
he's
doing
it.
But
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
we
need
women
and
people
of
color
to
apply
for
these
positions.
It's
it's
at
a
problem
level,
in
my
opinion,
on
the
Board
of
Adjustment,
where
there's
only
one
woman
and
I'm
not
sure
about
the
attendance
of
the
woman
who
does
serve
either.
C
We
need
to
do
our
part
to
recruit
people
particularly
'men
people
of
color
and
people,
not
in
the
seventh
Ward
I
have
two
of
eight
already
and
I'm
happy
to
recruit
more
people,
but
I
do
think
there'd
be
better
Geograph.
Geography
would
play
a
big
part
in
it
too.
So
I
just
want
to
encourage
everybody
to
do
their
part
to
help
with
this
particular
Commission,
which
seems
to
have
an
imbalance
that
is,
in
my
mind,
problematic.
C
A
You
for
that,
let
the
record
reflect
that
we've
been
joined
by
councilmember
Ellison
and
councilmember
Reich.
There
are
any
other
comments
with
that.
I
will
move
again
to
refer
one-point-one
back
to
staff
and
approve
1.2,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye,
all
those
opposed
say
no.
The
eyes
have
it
now
motion
carries
thank
you.
We
will
now
move
on
to
number
two,
which
is
the
consideration
of
appeal
that
was
on
our
last
agenda,
but
was
postponed
to
of
today's
meeting.
A
This
appeal
was
submitted
by
Gary
da
Casandra
regarding
the
Zoning
Board
of
adjustments,
decision
to
uphold
the
determination
of
the
Zoning
Administrator
to
deny
a
permit
at
1,100,
Franklin
Avenue,
East
I
understand
that
the
appellant
has
withdrawn
the
appeal
and
will
ask
for
a
quick
update
from
staff.
Yes,.
D
I
think
you
chair
and
councilmembers
you
are
correct
and
that
we
did
receive
a
letter
from
the
applicant
withdrawing
the
appeal.
I
believe
that's
in
your
packets
this
morning.
Just
a
little
background
on
that.
So
when
this
was
at
the
Board
of
Adjustment,
the
applicant
did
raise
some
issues
during
that
public
hearing
that
had
not
been
fully
considered
by
staff
at
that
time
and
leading
up
to
that,
we
did
ask
for
a
continuance
last
time,
so
we
could
look
into
this
a
little
bit
more.
D
There
are
two
uses
in
the
zoning
code
that
are
very
similar
to
one
another
in
nature
that
impacted
this
application.
So
the
issue
was
whether
or
not
this
use
met
spacing
to
adjacent
missions
or
missions
within
1,000
feet
of
their
proposed
location
mission
is
a
use
defined
in
the
zoning
code.
I
won't
get
into
the
details
on
I,
won't
read
you
the
definition.
I
think
you
maybe
have
that
information
in
front
of
you
as
well.
We
have
a
very
similar
use.
That
was
the
result
of
a
2016
text
amendment
in
the
code.
D
Now
that
text
meant
was
actually
to
amend
the
way.
The
definition
of
mission
read
in
the
code
that
2016
amendment
created
another
use,
called
community
service
facilities.
Community
service
facilities
are
similar
to
missions
in
many
ways
and
actually
the
two
uses
that
had
been
identified.
The
CES
food
shelf
in
the
murray
sandwich
center,
after
really
going
through
those
and
analyzing
both
of
the
mission
definition
and
the
community
service
facility
definition.
D
Staff
felt
that
those
uses
were
more
consistent
with
the
community
service
facility
definition
rather
than
mission,
and
with
that
there
would
not
be
an
issue
with
spacing.
So
that's
laid
out
in
a
substantially
similar
memo
that
the
Zoning
Administrator,
prepared
and
I
believe
that's
been
made
available
to
you
this
morning.
So.
E
If
they
come
back
again
wanting
to
put
in
their
on
as
at
a
check,
cashing
business
or
whatever,
they
will
be
allowed,
because
we're
gonna
redefine
the
mission
as
a
community
service
center.
That's.
D
Correct
so
community
service
facility
doesn't
actually
have
a
spacing
requirement
or
the
alternative
financial
establishments
do
not
need
to
be
spaced
from
community
service
facilities.
I
can
read
you
the
definition
of
that,
if
I
can
find
it
here.
So
a
community
service
facility
is
a
facility
that
provides
services
such
as
a
food
shelf,
free
clothing
or
supplies,
and
ciliary
services
such
as
counseling
or
vocational
training,
may
be
provided.
So
certainly,
the
CES
food
shelf,
which
does
function
almost
exclusively
as
a
food
shelf,
meets
that
definition.
D
The
merese
Anvik
Center
themselves
had
identified
themselves
as
more
of
a
use
that
meets
the
community
service
facility
definition
and
that
they're
doing
more
clothing,
snacks
and
that
sort
of
function
within
their
facility.
Not
the
mission
definition
is
a
facility
that
provides
free
meals,
snacks
and
day
shelter.
Neither
use
really
falls
under
that
day
shelter
category,
nor
do
they
provide
full
meals.
So
the
community
service
facility
definition
was
deemed
to
be
more
appropriate
for
each
I.
Think.
E
E
You
think
it's
time
well,
I
wonder
about
the
whole
idea
of
a
mission
or
what
it
is.
It's
not
a
common
language
anymore,
I'm,
not
sure
that
it
describes
anything
that
people
understand
is
what
it
should
be.
It
might
be
archaic,
and
maybe
we
need
to
get
rid
of
it.
It
seems
like
the
only
usage
served
is
actually
in
terms
of
spacing
requirements
in
situations
like
this,
because
we
may,
in
fact
not
one
neighborhoods
that
are
swamped
with
check.
E
Cashing
facilities
with
America
are
basically
a
predatory
of
lending,
so
I'm
not
saying
they
all
are
I,
don't
really
know
all
the
practices,
but
this
is
a
story
that
we
hear
often
is
that
businesses
will
open
in
poor
neighborhoods
they'll
end
up
charging
so
much
just
to
cast
your
check
because
you're
unbanked
need
on
him
bank
account
and
they're,
providing
a
service,
I
suppose,
but
they're
also
profiting
off
of
people
and
so
I
think
I
think
we
obviously
have
identified
somewhere
in
the
history
of
the
city
that
we
think
they
should
be
spaced
away
from
some
uses.
E
D
Know
I
do
think
previously
and
more
historically,
I
can't
speak
to
when
the
spacing
requirement
came
into
place.
I
wasn't
part
of
the
staff
team
that
worked
on
that
text
amendment,
but
there
were
assumptions
at
that
time
that
I
believe
are
correct
and
some
of
the
things
that
you've
asserted
right
now,
whether
or
not
that's
true
for
every
alternative
financial
establishment
is
certainly
up
for
debate.
D
An
alternative
financial
establishment
is
a
pretty
broad
term,
so
it
can
refer
to
check
cashing
facilities
only
it
can
refer
to
payday
loan
facilities
that
can
refer
to
an
industrial
loan
and
thrift.
So
it's
a
fairly
broad
definition,
but
there
was
certainly
some
history,
at
least
at
the
time
that
the
spacing
requirements
were
adapted
that
related
to
concerns
that
you've
stated
in
your
test,
but.
F
Chairman
Schrader
and
councilmember
Gordon
historically,
the
zoning
code
has
had
a
number
of
spacing
requirements,
including
spacing
from
dition.
So
it's
not
just
spacing
from
check-cashing
it's
basin
permissions.
We
vet
spacing
between
adult
uses
and
schools
and
libraries
and
historically
the
spacing
has
typically
not
been
reciprocal.
F
So
in
other
words
the
classic
example
we
have
is
we
had
an
adult
use
at
ninth
and
Hennepin
and
on
the
same
block
face
the
school
board
built
a
new
school,
so
the
school
had
been
a
tenth
that
had
been
the
bookstore
couldn't
gone
into
ninth
and
Hennepin,
but
there
was
nothing
to
stop
the
school
board
from
buying
a
property
and
building
a
school
down
the
street.
From
an
adult
you
see.
So
these
things
there
was
often
what
was
called
secondary,
deleterious
effects
associated
with
certain
uses,
including
ileum,
a
senior
uses.
F
Typically,
three
stores
that
gave
away
clothes,
often
presented
problems
patrons,
would
go
in,
they
would
get
a
bag
of
clothes,
they
walked
down
the
alley
and
kind
of
sort
through
what
they
wanted
and
what
they
didn't
want,
wouldn't
end
up
in
the
alley.
So
we've
had
spacing
for
a
variety
of
uses.
They
were
well-intentioned
at
the
time
they
were
based
on
kind
of
the
city,
as
it
was
at
that
time.
I
think
a
lot
of
things
have
changed.
F
I
think
that
the
change
in
recognizing
there's
uses
that
are
not
associated
with
religious
institutions,
doing
good
work,
helping
people
is
reflected
in
the
text
amendment
so
we'll
be
looking
at
a
lot
of
things
in
the
zoning
code.
As
we
know,
with
the
adoption
of
the
2040
plan,
we
could
look
at
spacing.
We
can
look
at
how
we're
categorizing
these
things.
I
think
it's
just
a
reflection
of
times
have
changed,
but
a
lot
of
the
need
is
still
there.
F
I
think
reasonable
people
can
argue
about
these
alternative
financial
institutions
which,
by
the
way,
was
a
new
deaf
that
came
out
of
the
states
some
years
ago.
So
these
regulations
change
over
time.
The
regulatory
framework
changes-
and
you
know
that's
why
it's
sometimes
I
struggle
to
figure
out
how
we're
classifying
things
I
think
we
landed
on
the
right
determination
in
this
case,
but
I
hear
your
point
and
we
will
be
examining
kind
of
this
whole
basket
of
uses
and
spacing
in
the
in
the
future.
G
So
I
just
have
a
few
questions
so
clearly
there
was
at
least
some
assumption
early
on
that
this
use
in
proximity
to
these
other
two
institutions
was
not
going
to
work
and
then
kind
of
upon
further
inspection.
We've
gone
back
and
we
feel
like
sort
of
considered.
Oh
okay,
cool.
Then
this
is
gonna
work,
but
there
was
initially
some
some
confusion
there
about
whether
this
use
worked
or
not
when
it
comes
to
sort
of
defining
between
a
mission
and
the
key
remind
me
of
the
term
again
community
service
community
service
facility
who's
making.
G
D
D
So
the
CES
food
shelf
clearly
a
community
service
facility
in
that
it
is
pretty
much
solely
a
food
shelf
and
then
the
Maryse
Anvik
Center
again
they
don't
provide
day
shelter
which,
with
that
2016
text
amendment,
that's
really
the
one
biggest
distinction
between
community
service
facility
and
mission
now
at
this
point
in
time,
is
whether
or
not
they're
providing
hot
meals
and
a
shelter
for
people,
and
that's
not
something
that
occurs
there.
So
it's
really
more.
This
snacks
meals,
they
again
religious
services,
occur
there
also
and
other
programs.
G
There
was
at
least
enough
gray
area
for
there
to
be
some
confusion
on
the
and
the
reason
that
I'm
bringing
that
up
is
because
I
think
about
sort
of
again
I.
Don't
know
the
intent
of
the
spacing
requirement,
but
considering
the
neighborhood
that
I
represent
I
know
that
I
don't
want
a
lot
of
these
predatory
institutions
in
in
my
neighborhood
right
and
I'm,
worried
that
okay,
with
these
definitions
and
who
gets
to
define
them,
are
we
sort
of
opening
the
floodgates?
Can
I
expect?
G
A
bunch
of
you
know,
check,
cashing
places
to
be
approved
in
you
know
in
my
ward
right
and
other
wards
expect
that
you
know
we're
gonna
kind
of
go
back
through
and
as
people
who
are
you
know
really
persistent
business
owners
are
really
persistent
right,
but
and
it's
not
to
speak
to
the
character,
the
business
owners
themselves.
But
these
types
of
alternative
financial
institutions-
you
know
they
do
they
do
take
an
undue
amount
of
money
out
of
the
pockets
of
poor
people
right
regardless
of
the
intent
of
the
business
owner.
G
So
I
don't
fault
a
business
owner
for
trying
to
run
their
business
but
I.
You
know
as
the
as
somebody
who
is
tasked
with
protecting
the
neighborhood
I,
do
sort
of
have
a
little
bit
of
a
stake
in
here
and
wondering
okay.
What
was
the
intent?
You
know
behind
this
spacing
requirement,
and
you
know
I
guess
I
find
it's
a
little
bit
troubling
to
me
that
you
know
we're
saying:
okay,
here's
an
institution!
G
That's
gonna,
take
folks
poor
people's
money,
but
that's
no
problem
because
they
can
walk
down
the
street
and
get
some
free
food
at
the
food
shelf
right.
The
the
prime
I
am
disturbed,
but
a
little
bit
by
the
proximity
of
this
institution
to
these
other
institutions
and
just
sort
of
wondering
what
kind
of
potential
precedent
this
sets
in
terms
of
more
institutions
like
this
sort
of
parking
themselves
in
more
prominently
in
poor
neighborhoods,
I.
Think.
D
One
distinction
that's
important
to
make
here
is
we're
not
changing
anything
with
the
regulations
of
alternative
financial
establishments
with
this,
so
the
2016
text
amendment
was
something
that
was
really
aimed
at
changing
how
we
were
defining
and
looking
at
missions
and
what
constituted
a
mission
prior
to
that
text.
Amendment
the
mission
definition
was
very
broad
and
it
include
things
like
food
shelves
that
text
moment
that
I
believe
was
actually
introduced
by
councilmember.
D
So
with
this
community
service
definition,
the
alternative
financial
establishments
would
still
need
to
be
spaced
from
existing
and
other
alternative
financial
establishments
and
pawnshops.
They
still
need
to
be
spaced
from
missions.
It's
just
that
how
we
look
at
definition,
how
we
define
missions
is
a
little
more
narrow
now
than
it
was
in
2016,
and
you
could
certainly
I
think
it
would
be
appropriate
today,
if
you
want
a
direct
staff
to
take
another
look
at
how
we're
treating
missions
themselves
and
get
something
on
the
work
plan
for
us
to
take.
Another
look
at
that.
G
Their
response
and
and
I
am
gonna
sort
of
look
into
that.
It
almost
seems
to
me
that
it's
as
important
to
enforce
some
kind
of
spacing
requirement
for
these
places
that
provide
services
as
it
is
to
these
places
that
are
missions.
You
know
having
an
having
an
alternative
financial
institution.
You
know
having
a
check,
cashing
place
next
to
a
place
that
might
be
considered.
G
A
mission
is
maybe
even
less
problematic
than
having
it
right
next
to
a
food
shelf,
and
so
so
I
know,
that's
I
just
wanted
to
name
that
and
then
also
I
think
that
the
fact
that
there
was
some
I
think
initial
difference
of
opinion
and
then
that
that
opinion
was
changed
and
has
me
thinking
all
right.
Well,
what
about
the
places
that
have
there
are
sort
of
defined
as
missions
that
we
haven't
yet
taken
a
second
look
at.
Are
we
all
of
a
sudden
gonna
start
taking
a
second
look
at
them?
G
Are
we
gonna
have
more
check,
cashing
places,
sort
of
coming
in
and
challenging?
You
know,
that's
not
a
you
know,
that's
a
food
shelf,
that's
a
you
know
this
place
provide
services,
not
a
mission.
You
know
I
think
that
that's
the
that's
the
kind
of
thing
that
worries
me
and
and
in
an
environment
where
wealth
extraction
from
poor
people
is
already
really
encouraged.
G
C
Thanking
mr.
chair
I
want
to
remind
us
that
whether
or
not
we
think
a
use
is
good
is
not
really
within
our
purview,
and
it
certainly
could
be
brought
up
as
arbitrary
and
capricious
that
some
people
think
that
the
use
is
bad
and
others
think
it's
good
and
necessary.
I'll
note
that
this
particular
facility
has
hundreds
of
supporters
in
the
neighborhood
they're
currently
located
in
the
exact
same
neighborhood,
and
many
people
want
them
to
remain
in
the
neighborhood.
So
I,
don't
want
to
get
us
into
saying
sex
uses
are
bad.
Sex
uses
are
good.
C
You
know
some
people
in
my
ward.
You
know
think
that
CVS
is
bad,
but
a
local
pharmacy
is
good
or
big-box.
Retailers
are
bad.
I
think
we
have
to
just
remember
that
we
have
to
treat
them
all
equally
and
fairly,
and
we
can't
really
judge
I
understand
that
everyone
has
an
opinion
about
whether
or
not
strip
clubs
are
good
or
pawn.
Shops
are
good
or
check.
Cashing
facilities
are
good
or
bad,
but
we
have
to
act
in
an
impartial
way
to
determine
what
is
legally
allowed
based
on
people's
property
rights
and
I.
C
Really
don't
want
us
to
get
involved
in
suggesting
that
this
particular
organization
or
anyone
like
it,
doesn't
have
support
or
there
aren't
people
using
it
or
there
aren't
people
choosing
to
use
it,
and
I
just
want
to
warn
us
about
that.
When
we
work
towards
putting
new
regulations
in
place,
I
can
see
spacing
them
from
each
other.
I.
Think
that
makes
sense
that
gets
to
councilmember
Allison's
concern
about
a
proliferation
of
uses
that
he
perceives
as
predatory
to
his
constituents,
but
to
say
that
they
shouldn't
be
next
to
other
uses.
G
G
A
A
Councilmember
Goodman
is
a
motion
is
before
us
all.
Those
in
favor
say
aye
aye,
all
those
opposed
say
no,
the
eyes
habit
and
the
appeal
is
withdrawing.
The
final
item
of
the
committee
is
related
to
the
denial
and
appeal
regarding
the
property
at
47
57
Hiawatha
Avenue.
This
item
was
forwarded
to
the
committee
last
week
from
last
week's
meeting
of
the
full
council,
but
the
council
sent
the
item
back
to
committee
after
the
applicant
requested
an
extension
in
order
to
make
alterations
to
their
original
design.
A
My
understanding
is
the
applicant
is
not
yet
ready
to
move
forward
so
that
I
will
move
to
postpone
the
item
to
our
March
21st
a
regularly
scheduled
meeting.
Is
there
any
discussion
all
right?
All
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye,
all
those
opposed
say
no,
the
eyes
have
it
and
the
motion
carries
seeing
no
further
business
before
the
committee.
We
are
adjourned.