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From YouTube: July 22, 2019 City Planning Commission
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Minneapolis City Planning Commission Meeting
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A
A
A
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Do
we
have
a
motion
I'll
take
that
as
a
motion
for
approval
of
the
consent
agenda
from
Committee
of
the
Whole
July
11th
committee
of
the
whole.
Do
we
have
a
second?
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
any
discussion
all
in
favor.
Any
opposed
that
motion
carries
all
right
next
up.
We
will
organize
our
agenda
for
today's
meeting
for
those
in
the
audience.
I
will
walk
through
the
agenda.
A
If
you're
here
to
testify
for
the
item,
you
can
stand
at
our
consent
agenda
hearing
so
starting
at
the
top
of
the
agenda
item
number
one
is
the
Nordic
and
state
sable
729
Washington
Avenue
North
701
to
720
nine
and
a
half
Washington
Avenue
North
722
to
728
third
Street
North
for
25
and
a
half
H
Street
north
and
250,
and
a
half
seventh
Avenue
North.
A
lot
of
halves
in
there
were
three.
Has
anyone
here
wishing
to
speak
on
item
number?
Seeing
none
item
number.
A
Two
we
have
a
conditional
use
permit
on
the
Kipp
stand.
Academy
addition
at
5,000,
Oliver
Avenue
North
in
Ward
4-
is
anyone
here
to
speak
on
item
number
to
see?
No
one
will
put
item
number
two
as
well
on
consent.
Item
number
three
is
a
divine
Institute
628
East
Franklin
Avenue
in
Ward
six,
a
number
of
applications.
There's
anybody
here
to
speak
on
item
number
three:
seeing
none
we'll
put
item
number
three
on
consent:
item
number
4
is
36
34,
Central,
Avenue,
Northeast,
minor,
subdivision
and
site
plan
review.
Is
anybody
here
to
speak?
A
A
Item
number
five
as
greenway
31
at
38,
1838
22
and
38:26
West
31st
Street
in
Ward
13,
a
number
of
applications
there
for
at-home
apartments
as
anyone
here
to
speak
on
item
number
5
seeing
Emeril
place.
Item
number
five
on
a
consent
item
number
six
is
Lutheran
Church
of
God
Lutheran
Church
of
the
Good
Shepherd
4800
Ewing
Avenue
South
in
Ward
13,
a
conditional
use
permit
and
variance.
There's
anyone
here
to
speak.
On.
Item
number
six
see
no
one
will
put
item
number
six
on
the
consent
agenda
and
we
will
discuss
item
number
seven.
A
So
our
agenda
as
amended
our
items,
1
2,
3,
4,
5,
&
6,
are
on
consent
and
we'll
discuss.
Item
number
7.
Commissioners
could
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
as
amended
motion.
Do
we
have
a
second
motion
and
a
second?
Yes,
mr.
Nelson
mr.
Ellison
is
recusing
herself
from
item
number.
Two
duly
noted.
Thank
you
any
other
discussion
on
the
agenda.
As
amended
I
see
none.
We
have
a
motion
in
a
second
all
in
favor,
say
aye,
any
opposed
all
right.
A
The
agenda
is
approved
with
that
we'll
open
the
public
hearing
on
the
items
on
the
consent
agenda.
Does
anybody
wish
to
speak
on
those
items,
one
through
six
that
consent
agenda?
Seeing
no
one
will
close
the
public
hearing
on
the
consent
agenda.
Commissioners
could
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
items
on
the
consent
agenda.
A
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
any
discussion.
All
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
he
opposed
that
motion
carries
all
right.
Moving
on
to
our
1
item
for
discussion
today,
item
number
7,
whoever
marked
bodega,
smokes
17
or
144th
Avenue
North
in
Ward
4
Lindsey
Salas,
is
our
staff
member.
If
the
way
listen
good.
C
Evening,
commissioners,
the
project
before
you
is
a
proposed
rezoning
at
1701
44th,
Avenue
North.
This
is
for
Webber
Mart.
The
subject
site
is
zoned
c1
and
it's
just
over
5,000
square
feet
in
size.
The
applicant
has
proposed
to
rezone
the
site,
similar
to
what
we
saw
mostly
last
year
before
the
tobacco
moratorium
went
into
place.
The
proposals
to
rezone
the
site
in
order
to
create
a
new
space
within
the
existing
building.
That
would
be
a
tip
exclusive
tobacco
shop.
C
The
applicant
had
applied
for
a
waiver
of
the
restrictions
of
the
interim
ordinance,
which
was
approved
by
the
City
Council
on
June
7th,
waiving
the
restrictions
of
the
ban
on
the
creation
of
new
tobacco
products
shops.
So
now
this
application
is
the
applicant
requesting
to
rezone
the
property
in
order
to
move
forward
with
establishing
a
tobacco
products
shop
and
the
site
right
now.
As
far
as
policy
guidance
goes,
the
the
existing
forty-fourth
is
a
community
corridor.
C
Typically,
under
the
existing
comprehensive
plan,
we
would
not
support
rezoning
from
c1
to
c2
along
and
community
corridor
and
while
it's
not
approved
yet
the
minneapolis
2040
plan
likely
would
support
the
proposed
rezoning,
as
this
is
a
goods
and
services
corridor
and
as
des
emitted
as
corridor
mixed-use
under
the
new
plan.
So
I
will
stand
for
questions.
A
D
My
name
is
Kevin
I'll
walk
I'm
here
today.
To
present
my
business
I
have
been
a
resident
of
North
Minneapolis
for
the
past
ten
years
and
a
small
business
owner
for
the
past
23
years
in
the
same
area,
I
own,
a
business,
often
stigmatized
by
a
combination
of
bad
reputation
and
reckless
operators,
I
assure
you,
my
business,
my
businesses
since
I
own
several
before
never
been
one
of
these.
My
current
location
maintain
a
five-star
rating
across
the
board
online
or
whether
it's
performance,
wise
I,
always
found
a
way
to
turn.
D
My
my
store
currently
support
and
hosted
several
community
initiatives.
Some
of
it
is
a
pop-up
market
that
we
support
weekly
for
small
and
local
businesses,
or
any
community
causes
that
Seafarer
to
use
our
location
to
raise
funding
or
awareness
I
argue
today
to
approve
my
application.
Rezoning
would
allow
me
Roma
to
section
off
part
of
my
store
to
be
the
dignity
dedicated
to
tobacco
products
only
which
would
not
be
visible
from
the
grocery
side
of
the
story.
D
Anyone
under
the
age
of
21
won't
be
allowed
entrance
that
would
eliminate
targeting
and
exposure
while
giving
me
a
chance
to
serve
my
customers
and
my
community
that
demands
that
product
daily.
It
would
allow
me
to
hopefully
regain
my
customers
back.
Please
keep
in
mind
that
in
our
neighborhood
we
lacked
those
kind
of
establishment.
Other
neighborhoods
might
have
two
to
three
establishment
like
this
in
North
Minneapolis,
we
have
a
month
before
the
recently
black
tobacco
changes.
D
D
Sorry
I
lost
we're
currently
operating
with
two
full-time
employees
and
two
part
and
part-time
employees.
These
changes
has
shifted
my
customers
to
nearby
city.
This
band
has
cost
me
70
percent
of
my
customer
traffic.
This
reflected
on
all
sales
aside
to
tobacco,
allowing
this
rezoning
will
build
jobs
as
well
as
as
tax
revenue
for
the
area
instead
of
losing
art
in
nearby
suburbs.
That
would
give
me
the
chance
to
rehire
back
my
employees.
Rezoning
would
create
around
10
more
jobs
for
our
community.
D
Finally,
I'd
like
to
comment
on
the
city
and
planning
committee
decision
for
denial,
I'd
like
to
say
that,
contrary
to
what
city
and
Planning
Department
states
when
they
recommended
denial
rezoning,
my
property
would
be
in
line
to
the
city.
Comprehensive
2020
and
2040
plan
farther.
My
council
member
for
the
area
worked
hard
on
creating
a
commercial
pedestrian
district
which
is
currently
in
the
middle
of
death
that
Street
on
44th
Avenue
between
Penn
and
Fremont.
D
He
created
that
district
cause.
We
lacked
the
facilities
or
the
buildings
as
commercial
in
North
Minneapolis
by
reclassifying
44th
Avenue.
It
would
allow
even
current
home
owners
to
upgrade
the
rezoning
to
commercial,
which
is
would
attract
more
businesses
to
the
area.
I
believe
I
do
have
the
community
support
for
this
project.
I
have
my
ward
4
councilmember
support.
I.
Have
my
neighborhood
organization
support
I
also
have
submitted
a
petition
with
400
signatures.
200
of
those
are
actually
elder
that
lived
in
nearby
public
housing.
D
That
has
no
means
to
travel
somewhere
else
to
get
there
their
needs
in
tobacco,
whether
we
like
it
or
not.
We
also
included
nanny,
almost
any
emails
from
residents
that
commented
in
favor
of
this
project.
With
from
what
my
awareness
to
that
recommend
denial
because
of
our
proximity
because
of
the
tobacco
product
itself
and
where
approximately
within
six
to
seven
hundred
feet
from
a
high
school
I'd
like
to
mention
also
that
in
my
23
years
in
North
Minneapolis
handling
tobacco
products,
I
map
and
I
never
once
solved
an
underaged.
D
A
E
My
name
is
robin
lewis:
I
am
the
chair
of
Weber,
Kadmon,
neighborhood
organization,
I
believe
in
Kevin
for
several
reasons:
it's
not
just
the
tobacco,
but
it's
a
business
and
business
need
to
run
and
you're
in
profit
and
because
he
has
to,
he
doesn't
have
this
option
to
sell
products.
His
other
parts
of
his
business
he's
in
debt,
because
you,
this
is
a
big
part
of
that.
E
Now
people
can
say
tobacco's
bad,
but
people
are
going
to
smoke
tobacco,
and
the
thing
is:
is
that
when
you
I
feel
like
I
have
a
car
I
can
go
anywhere,
I
want
some
people
live
right
down
the
street
and
frequent
his
store
often,
and
you
can
go
in
there
for
everything
they
have
everything.
He
has
everything
else.
E
So
you
want
one
guy
came
in
there
wanted
socks,
so
it
serves
more
than
just
tobacco,
but
he
has
to
survive
as
a
business
owner
and
that's
what's
important,
I
see
right
here,
but
it's
a
hub,
I've
learned
and
met
so
many
people
as
a
cop
as
a
neighborhood
or
organization,
a
chair
of
my
organization,
I
mean
I've
networked
I've
met
people
I
see
how
they
youth
come
in
there
and
he
knows
him
firsthand.
He
has
seniors
in
there
that
he
really
cares
with
who
are
from
Hamilton
Manor.
E
He
does
a
lot
for
the
community
he's
very
vested
and
he's
been
a
real
mentor
to
me
as
because
he
was
on
the
neighborhood
organization
in
the
past,
which
is
very
important
because
we
are
all
here
connected
to
him
because
we
want
to
serve
our
community
and
he
is
a
hub
for
that.
So
I
urge
you
to
look
at
that
tube
I,
understand
that
you
may
have
concerns
about
tobacco
and
all
that,
but
he's
very
responsible.
He
will
not
sell
the
children
and
me
as
an
organization
chair
I,
would
not
allow
that
either.
E
But
I
don't
see
that
as
a
threat.
I
do
see
this
that
he
must
survive
and
the
foot
traffic
that
he's
talking
about
when
you
come
to
the
store
to
get
one
product
a
lot
of
times.
You
end
up
buying
more
than
just
one
product
and
he
needs
that
to
survive.
It's
important
to
him.
I
can't
emphasize
that
enough.
So
I'm
saying
that
you
give
him
the
opportunity
to
rezone
he's
thought
about.
This.
He's
worked
hard
he's
been
before
you
several
times
to
try
to
make
this
happen.
E
So
I
urge
you
to
give
him
as
a
small
business
owner
in
North
Minneapolis
the
opportunity,
because
within
that
he
will
also
encourage
and
serve
other
small
businesses,
because
he
believes
that
and
you
have
like-minded
people
together.
That's
what
you'll
get
we
want
our
community,
but
we
can
all
get
services
within
our
community
and
not
have
to
go
to
Brooklyn
Park
I
have
to
go
to
southeast
Minneapolis
Fridley.
You
know
like
I
said:
I
have
a
car.
E
I
can
go
anywhere,
I
want,
but
some
people
don't
have
that
opportunity
and
they
truly
do
use
the
store
for
more
than
just
pop
and
chips.
He
has
everything
in
this
store,
so
I
urge
you
to
consider
this
because
it
is
important
to
our
community
and
if
he
is
no
longer
able
to
run
because
he
can't
afford
to
it
will
be
a
loss
to
our
community.
It
surely
will
be
so
I
urge
you
to
consider
this.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank.
A
F
Hi,
my
name
is
mo
burns
and
I've
been
a
resident
of
Weber
Camden
for
like
three
fifteen
years
and
Kevin
has
been
access
in
that
area
for
a
long
time,
as
he
said,
and
when
I
met
him.
I
met
him
as
a
person.
I've
been
a
a
great
person
in
that
community
and
neighborhoods
of
helping
people
giving
people
opportunities
just
being
a
great
person
in
the
community
and
if
it's
devastating
to
his
business,
for
him
not
to
be
able
to
advance
his
business,
it
wouldn't
be
just
for
him.
F
I,
like
robber,
said
it
would
be
that
devastating
to
the
whole
neighborhood
community,
because
he
he
gives
a
lot
his
time.
It's
just
you
know,
he's
just
all-around
person
that
want
that
likes
to
help.
People
and
I.
Just
also
urge
you
to
please
help
him
in
this
situation
and
giving
him
the
woodies
action
force
for
an
extended
for
tobacco
again,
I'm,
not
one
to
judge
her
for
that.
But
it's
a
legal
thing
and
people
use
it.
F
I've
heard
a
story
about
a
person
that
was
in
a
elderly,
the
building
the
desk
right
down
the
street,
trying
to
go
get
cigarettes
which
they
used
normally
get
from
his
store
from
a
far-off
store
and
actually
had
an
accident.
I
mean
I'm,
not
saying
it
that
the
case,
but
if
they
could
just
walk
right
down
the
street
there
and
get
those
cigarettes,
even
the
one
have
to
go
as
far
as
she
was
trying
to
go.
F
A
G
My
name
is
Johnny
Johnson
I
am
a
co-chair
of
flipper
camera
I
manage
people
on
behalf
of
cabinet
from
the
time
that
I've
been
knowing
him
for
numerous
years
out
of
business
that
he
had.
It
was
always
serving
the
community
I
remember
once
he
had
a
gas
station,
our
fundraising
used
his
own
water
and
everything
else
just
to
helping
help
his
community
out
the
various
various
times.
G
He
have
always
been
there
just
to
meet
the
need,
not
his
knee,
but
the
needs
of
others
in
the
community
through
down
through
the
time
he
always
been
a
place
where
we
can
go
and
set
and
I
the
chair
was
saying
there
was
a
place
where
you
go
and
you
can
just
find
a
peace
of
mind.
You
met
connection
with
your
community,
but
the
people
there
that's
kind
of
person.
He
is.
He
uses
his
pop-up
market.
Yes,
it's
open
to
the
community
and
it
serves
a
great
need
in
fundraising
for
various
causes.
G
You
know
that
the
community
needs
and
now
allowed
him
to
continue.
This
would
be
demonstrating
through
our
community.
Yes,
it
would
be
very
devastating
not
to
allow
him
maintain
that,
but
not
having
to
letting
him
have
the
use
of
father
his
business
to
a
tobacco
sales,
and
he
has
stated
that
it
will
be
separated
from
the
youth.
You
know
they
have
no
contact
there
and
he
has
worked
very
hard
on
this
30
years.
He's
been
working
very
hard
to
keep
this
community
going
to
be
an
asset.
He
is
a
great
access
to
well
cabinet.
G
So
you
don't
let
him
do
this.
It
would
be
devastating
to
the
community
to
us
youth,
but
he
employee,
use,
he's
always
encouraging
youth
and
the
seniors.
Here
you
don't
do
much
time.
I
was
seeing
seniors
had
to
go
the
inner
ring.
They
don't
have
to
go
that
far.
They
take
a
bus
carrying
groceries.
He
also
gives
to
those
seniors
when
they're
like
himself.
He
makes
sure
that
they
all
have
with
you
need
he
feasts
the
community
too.
G
He
makes
sure
he
nobody
goes
hungry
as
long
as
he
has
a
shop,
they'll
store
there
and,
like
I
say,
have
some
everything
and
not
just
food.
You
know
it's
his
various
items
that
you
use.
You
know
you
know
I,
finally,
hope
that
you
guys
agree
to
allow
him
to
continue
that
work
that
he's
doing
in
this
community.
A
A
H
At
my
dress
is
43:28
Humboldt
Avenue
North.
Thank
you
and
I
live
in
Webber,
Camden
I'm.
Also,
the
treasurer
of
the
W
CNO
and
I
mean
this
is
really
a
lot
more
than
just
a
smoke
shop.
This
is
a
grocery
store
for
people
who
can't
go
anywhere
else.
To
get
groceries
is
a
huge
senior
living
facility
and
they
really
can't
go
anywhere
else.
They
can't
go
the
extra
few
blocks.
They
can't
go
to
Brooklyn
Park,
it's
a
bank
Kevin
gives
loans
to
people,
so
they
can
buy
food.
He
does
it
on
a
daily
basis.
H
He
keeps
a
book
a
notebook
and
these
people,
if
they
were
to
go
to
a
bank
they'd,
be
told.
No,
they
be
told
30%
interest.
Kevin
gives
them
alone.
No
interest
pay
me
when
you
can.
This
is
an
invaluable
services
to
a
community,
that's
much
poorer
than
a
lot
of
the
communities
that
we
usually
are
in,
and
it's
really
important.
This
is
a
mentorship,
because
people
come
in
they're
struggling.
They
don't
know
what
to
do
Kevin
net,
let's
the
network
with
people
who
can
help
them.
H
H
We
really
want
this
place
here,
not
just
for
the
tobacco,
but
for
the
pop-up
like
the
pop-up
events,
I,
don't
know
if
you
know
what
they
are,
anybody
can
come
to
Kevin
and
say
look
I'm
trying
to
raise
money
or
whatever
cause
and
Kevon
to
let
them
pop
up
a
little
pat
in
this
driveway
on
the
weekend
and
people
can
come.
Maybe
they'll
have
free
for
snow,
cones
or
hot
dogs
or
something
you
know.
H
When
people
come
in
they'll
be
able
to
interact,
they
were
fixing
bikes
last
week
over
there,
so
just
for
free,
and
so
it's
really
it's
a
neighborhood
hub.
It's
a
neighborhood
service,
and
so
it's
just
so
much
more
than
tobacco
shops.
I
really
would
urge
that
you
guys
let
this
project
go
through.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
A
I
Name
is
Amanda
Dobbs.
My
address
is
four
three
three
eight
Logan
Avenue
North.
Thank
you
all
for
taking
a
moment
to
listen
to
the
Northside
community,
about
the
decisions
that
you
are
making.
They
truly
affect
our
everyday
lives,
very
reasons
that
the
city
is
proposing
to
deny
an
Estrada
walks
request
to
resume
webinar
Lucy
window.
C2
are
the
reasons
you
must
grant
him
his
request.
44Th
Avenue
was
being
razón
as
a
commercial
district
with
the
pedestrian
Focus
Weber
Mart
has
always
catered
to
this
focus.
I
People
stop
by
for
a
freezing
on
their
way
to
the
pool
those
waiting
for
the
bus,
get
coffee
and
bikers
stop
in
on
by
from
the
Parkway.
According
to
the
land
use
policy,
1.15
businesses
should
encourage
neighborhood
character,
promotes
street
life
and
activity.
Anyone
who's
been
to
Weber
might
knows.
This
unique
bodega
does
exactly
that
from
Saturday
pop-ups
to
displaying
and
selling
local
art
and
goods
misrata.
I
Walks
tour
is
the
hub
of
community
activity
on
44th
I
have
read
through
the
city's
reasoning,
behind
its
denial
and
in
its
entirety
and
I
assert
that
if
the
city
of
Minneapolis
cannot
put
on
paper
the
exact
real
reason
why
you
won't
approve
this
tobacco
bodega,
then
you
must
not
deny
it.
The
menthol
ban
has
had
real
consequences.
I
I
Currently
the
former
customers
of
Mr
Ottawa
are
going
a
little
over
a
mile
away
to
purchase
cigarettes
and
other
convenience
/
products.
This
consequence
unintended
or
not,
must
be
addressed.
Why
can
liquor
stores
sell
menthols?
Mr.
Otto
walk
is
proposing
completely
sectionally
have
tobacco's
products
from
all
one
or
21.
Isn't
this
the
same
reasoning
to
allow
liquor
store
cells
to
sell
menthols
I
understand
that
ordinances
and
regulations
put
in
place
are
here
to
help
community
be
safe.
I
Another
empty
storefront
and
44th
will
not
help
that
the
median
income
of
residents
in
Weber
Camden
is
under
$34,000
a
year.
Many
people
rely
on
Weber
Mart
for
food
due
to
transportation
issues.
We
deserve
a
bodega
where
we
can
quick
pick
up
fresh
fruits
and
vegetables
prices
comparable
to
come
and
target.
I
We
deserve
a
place
to
be
able
to
send
our
kids
for
quarter
and
dime
candy.
We
deserve
to
be
listened
to
when
we
tell
you
what's
best
for
our
community.
It's
clear
the
webinar
bodega
smokes
project
has
a
wide
community
support
in
the
neighborhood
of
three
thousand.
How
can
the
City
Planning
Commission
in
good
conscience,
possibly
vote
it
down?
Thank
you.
A
D
Honestly,
I
never
pursued
the
small
shop
in
my
entire
life,
although
the
business
businessman
in
me
would
want
a
small
shop
in
that
area,
I'll
be
the
only
shop
there.
The
reason
I
propose
200
square
feet
is
just
to
go
around
what
my
customers
and
community
require
I
don't
want
to
carry
pipes
other
one
I,
never
carry
them
in
when
they're
legal
to
carry
before
and
now
and
I
sell,
don't
care.
D
So
my
for
my
business
to
go
around
the
band
is
why
we're
seeking
this
rezoning
I
made
sure
that
it's
as
minimum
as
possible,
I,
don't
want
to
I,
don't
want
to
add
on
or
increase
my
business
in
tobacco.
Believe
it
or
not.
My
objective
is
just
to
service
and
have
what
I
lost
a
year
ago,
my
sales
diminished
by
90
between
nine
eighteen.
D
Ninety
six
thousand
dollars
a
month
because
of
because
of
the
mental
ban-
and
this
is
how,
when,
when
I
applied
for
a
wave
applied
for
it,
because
the
financials
financial
reasons
honestly
right
now
is
unmaintainable
the
way
the
way
it
stands
and
that
with
Grantham
does
see
to
and
establishing
the
section
off
for
tobacco.
We
could
have
two
birds
in
one
stone.
D
We
could
eliminate
targeting
and
exposure
while
maintaining
residents,
pedestrian
and
probably
hopefully
down
the
road,
encourage
more
people
to
invest
in
that
area
when
they
see
traffic,
but
he
can't
just
bring
investors
to
their
dead
Street
I
want
to
keep
that
in
mind.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
K
L
C
Basically,
the
council
members,
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
about
what
the
right
path
forward
was,
and
eventually
there
was
a
split
vote
on
whether
to
move
forward.
But
the
findings
that
the
council
made
at
that
time
had
to
do
specifically
with
a
specific
hardship
for
this
store,
given
its
because
I
don't
have
a
zoomed
out
image,
but
given
its
proximity
to
other
suburbs
that
were
around
a
mile
away
on
a
couple
of
different
sides.
C
So
the
the
findings
that
the
council
made
was
specifically
related
to
this
shop,
having
a
specific
hardship
that
that
necessitated
a
waiver
to
the
interim
ordinance
based
on
that
and
I,
think
that
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
about
wanting
to
ensure
that
that
there
was
not
another
vacant.
Storefronts
on
44th.
K
C
The
waiver
granted
the
applicant
the
right
to
pursue
a
rezoning.
There
would
not
have
been
around
forward
for
him
to
pursue
the
rezoning
with
the
moratorium
in
place
and
applying
to
his
property.
So
at
that
time
there
was
the
clear
path
forward
was
that
he
was
going
to
need
to
wait
until
that
action
was
final
and
then
apply
for
a
rezoning
and
that's
why
we're
back
here
today.
L
Indication
that
they
would
go
forward
or
not
I
mean
I
read
in
the
application
that
it
was
clear
at
the
time
that
only
by
granting
that
waiver
it's
only
using
the
right
to
go
through
and
knowing
that
we
have
similarly
situated
tobacco
shops
that
have
also
been
denied
one
in
my
own
Ward.
So
I
just
want
to
kind
of
be
clear
on
what
the
expectation
was
at
that
time.
C
As
you
noted,
not
necessarily
all
the
members
of
the
zoning
and
planning
committee
were
in
attendance
at
that
meeting.
I
think
there
was
only
four,
so
there
was
the
minimum
for
a
forum.
So
you
know
it
sounded
like
the
conversation
at
the
time
was
among
the
committee
members
who
were
there.
They
expected
that
they,
you
know
the
ones
who
voted
in
favor
of
granting
the
waiver
would
likely
vote
in
favor
of
a
rezoning,
but
whatever
the
council
make
up
at
the
CMP
meeting
that
this
will
go
to
eventually.
Obviously,
I
can't
speak
to
that.
Thank.
L
D
A
B
So
my
question
is
given
kevin's
business
and
how
many
role
is
to
the
neighbor
community.
Has
there
been
any
talk
with
the
Association
and
with
the
councilmember
about
finding
other
ways
to
support
him,
whether
through
grants
or
finding
other
means
of
Revenue
I
mean?
Is
there
what
else
has
been
looked
into
yet
to
support
MA
about
other
than
tobacco,
because,
like
I
totally
get
that
it's
a
important
cornerstone
to
the
community
I'm
in
North,
Minneapolis
resident,
I
I
know
of
this
business
I
sold
in
Hawthorn?
B
E
B
I'm
looking,
which
is
any
like,
has
anybody
explored
alternative
business
models
or
business
plans
or
any
of
any
other
neighborhood
I
know?
We've
had
different
improvement
business
grants
along
West
Broadway,
for
example?
Is
anybody
looked
at
approaching
Philly,
for
example,
about?
Is
there
something
the
city
can
do
to
help
Kevin
during
this
time?
Is.
E
That
this
is
something
that
so
no
we
have
not
because
we
think
this
is
the
best
option
to
do
this.
But
if
you
can
speak
on
that,
but
we
as
the
chair
have
decided
that
we
will
support
this
option
here
and
I've
discussed.
It
was
complete,
Cunningham
and
I
feel
that
this
would
be
the
best
option.
So
we
are
standing
behind
him
and
that's
a
part
of
this
because,
as
I
have
told
you
before
it's
he
needs
to
support
this
business
and
financially.
E
He
can
do
that
and
still
maintain
all
the
things
that
you're
talking
about
in
terms
of
the
hub
providing
external
things.
Besides
the
cigarettes
like
I,
said
a
guy
comes
in
for
socks,
person
comes
in
for
tools,
things
like
that
that
they
need
digital
diapers,
fresh
fruit,
and
so
we
feel
that
this
would
be
the
best
way
for
him
to
continue
to
provide
that
service
and
still
maintain
his
income,
his
business,
because
in
the
end
this
is
a
business,
and
he
must
maintain
that.
B
D
Reason
I
applied
towards
the
end,
because,
honestly
and
in
good
faith,
I
wanted
the
band
to
work
personally.
I
have
kids
that
was
see
a
hide
they're
taller
than
me,
and
part
of
the
issue
that
we
focused
on
and
I
was
part
of
the
flavored
tobacco
band
before
I
pushed
for
it.
I
had
I'm
by
a
high
school,
and
usually
this
hard,
as
this
is
the
first
year
of
school,
we
ID
on
they're
underage
by
the
time
of
graduation.
The
trans
learn
their
idea
on
your
table.
D
Hey
you
can't
tell
me
no,
so
we
pushed
for
flavor
we
pushed
I
was
on
board
with
21.
This
is
common
sense
organs.
If
I
care
about
my
community
I
want
to
prevent
that
product
for
being
accessible
to
you
and
I
do.
Above
and
beyond
with
that.
As
seeking
alternatives,
we
worked
with
small
business
program
to
see
how
we
could
do
this
without
with
that
small
of
a
scale
there
isn't
really.
D
In
my
particular
dilemma,
is
I'm
great
on
the
edge
between
two
other
cities
that
allow
that
product
in
every
single
store
with
lesser
x8
requirement,
with
less
with
lesser
price
requirement.
We
have
a
price
gap
in
Minneapolis.
We
have
21
in
Minneapolis,
Robbinsdale
Brooklyn
Center
crystal
don't
so.
This
is
a
been
a
challenge
for
me
and
I.
Didn't
we
seek
zoning
before
I
tried
every
single
Avenue
I
worked
with
neon.
We
had
consultants
table
by
way,
so
I
can
improve
on
this.
D
He
have
everything
actually
I'm
a
UPS
pickup
job
off-center,
I,
fax,
in
copy
for
residents.
I
received
packages,
even
if
it's
not
through
UPS,
just
to
prevent
theft,
I
mean
we
tried
every
single
Avenue
and
honestly
that
the
fight
right
now
is
to
keep
that
place
open,
because
I
feel
that
I
do
good
from
my
community
if
I
felt
that
this
is
this
is
just
not
for
me
along
really
well,
not
I
mean
I
was
doing
fine
to
help
this
we
came,
I
became
an
issue.
We
tried
to
address
it.
D
You
could
add
up
a
daily.
What
do
we
want
a
daily
on
every
corner
in
Minneapolis
its
I
mean
becomes
the
eagerness
you
got
to
specify
I
mean
that's.
Why
I'm
trying
to
do
this
just
to
maintain
both
I,
don't
want
to
take
away
from
my
grocery
and
taking
care
of
the
grammar
that
needs
milk
and
I'm
too
cheap
us
in
the
area.
In
the
same
sense,
I
don't
want
to
describe
stopping
by
my
store
cause
it's
available
in
Brooklyn
Center
for
a
dollar
more!
That's
why
we
did
this.
We
explored
other
avenues.
D
I
mean
this
change,
so
quick,
honest
as
a
business
model,
and
we
suggested
alternatives
before
even
the
the
bank
came
in
effect,
who
I
honestly
reach
out
to
every
single
council
members,
or
we
could
do
this
without
a
band
we've
been
doing.
We,
we
are
leaps
away
in
prevention
to
starting
smoking
from
ninety
sixty
now
I
could
tell
you
that
much
and
district
education,
not
burger
bishop.
We
could.
We
could
do
this
anymore
without
without
without
affecting
smaller
businesses
and
I
guarantee
a
lot
of
people.
A
lot
of
small
businesses
are
affected
by
this.
D
It's
damaged
me
to
display,
at
this
point
I'm
ninety
six
thousand
dollars
in
debt
because
of
this
and
I
still
tried
my
hardest
to
keep
my
doors
open
and
serviced.
My
community,
but
at
this
point
I
mean
after
seeking
other
alternatives
there
isn't
it
it's
either.
We
could
change
this
and
incur
more
construction
costs
and
separate
this
alone
and
try
it
that
way
or
shut
down.
D
That's
the
only
two:
that's
the
only
two
options
I
see
right
now
again,
and
this
is
also
needed
in
our
community
I
mean
in
whole,
North
Minneapolis,
the
closest
to
back
rishabh
in
Minneapolis,
is
on
West
Broadway.
It's
it's
it's
three
miles
that
way,
but
in
Brooklyn,
Center,
Robbinsdale
and
crystal
it's
one
point
two
point
four
1.3
miles
away
from
my
front
door.
This
is
a
walking
distance.
If
you
really
have
DeMint
about
getting
your
product.
D
So
that's
why,
when
we
seek
seek
rezoning
and
we
went
through
the
waiver
actually
and
we
went
through
front
of
City
Council
and
it
was
that
meeting
was
I,
believe
July
17th.
It
was
11
to
1
in
favor
of
me
getting
rezone
the
one
vote
to
count
two
council
members
I
believe
were
absent.
Mr.
Gordon
was
against,
and
ten
votes
were
wearing
my
favorite,
so
we
went
not
only
through
the
waiver.
We
went
through
city
full
City
Council
to
on
this,
and
this
is
why
I
had
honest
before.
D
D
L
D
J
I
just
want
to
that
go
in
your
store
before
so
I
just
wanted.
Some
of
the
concerns
this
letter
writer
talked
about
was
drifting
secondhand
smoke,
litter,
candy,
flavored
products
and
papers,
pipes
or
other
paraphernalia
that
can
facilitate
inhalation
of
street
drugs.
Was
that
concerned
before,
when
it.
D
Has
never
been
a
concern
I'm,
actually
one
of
the
cleanest
stores
in
the
Twin
Cities
when
it
comes
to
surrounding
I'm,
pretty
much
adopted
a
block
up
and
up
and
down
with
letter-
and
it's
very
well
known
about
me
as
far
as
letter
industry-
it
is
the
cleanest
in
Minneapolis
I
put
my
name
on
as
far
as
the
product
that
the
letter
addresses
we
already
carry
even
with
the
band.
We
already
have.
Some
of
these
products
me
as
a
business
owner
I
could
expand
on
them
include
more
familiar.
D
The
way
I
do
it
is.
There
is
a
need
for
this.
It
doesn't
mean
that
I
have
to
sell
it.
If
a
customer
asked
me
for
a
scale
and
I
know
that
what's
the
scale
for
it's
for
hardcore
drugs,
I'm
more
really
I
feel
morally
responsible.
If
I
have
accessibility
to
that
item,
so
I
never
carried
that.
If
somebody
asked
me
for
a
plan
and
they
do
I,
don't
want
to
sell
it
to
you.
I'm
buying
high
school
I'm
in
the
middle
of
a
community
I
have
a
big
grocery
store
down.
D
The
road
I
have
library
that
I
could
see.
For
my
front
door,
I
don't
want
to
come
by
your
crack
pipe
for
me
good
and
it's
available
somewhere
else
and
I'm,
not
gonna,
judge
you,
but
for
me,
I
personally
feel
responsible
to
my
community.
If
I
carry
father's
like
this,
but
for
instance,
if
somebody
wanted
smoked,
marijuana,
Who
am
I
to
judge
them
on
his
own
thing.
If
he's
an
adult-
and
he
want
this
product,
I
mean
we're
pushing
for
legalization
or
something.
Some.
D
Some
products
is
a
no-no
for
me:
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
there
I
make
money
by
selling
some
products
by
selling
more,
but
some
certain
products
I
refuse
to
carry,
because
this
is
I'm.
A
community
act
I'm
not
going
to
sell
you
a
crack
pipe
from
here
and
go
volunteer
with
you
on
the
other
end
from
here.
Does
it
work
that
way?
There
is
moral
responsibility
to
this.
D
So
when
I
proposed
200
square
feet,
usually
people
will
want
as
big
as
possible
for
a
small
shop
I
want
it
as
little
as
possible,
because
I
want
to
restrain
myself
first
with
space.
Second,
with
the
product
that
we
just
lost
eight
months
ago
and
believe
it
or
not,
this
product
is
still
readily
available
within
Minneapolis,
because
there
there's
zero
and
enforcement
on
it
at
this
point.
D
So
for
me
to
paid
by
the
line
says
not
to
carry
this
product
when
that
the
next
person
is
selling
it
under
the
table,
I
don't
want
to
sell
products
on
the
table.
It's
either
do
it
in
the
open.
This
is
a
legal
product
or
not,
and
this
will
give
me
the
means
to
do
what
am
I
envisioned?
This
has
to
be
a
hub
for
no
absolutely
not
I
live
within
a
block
of
that
store.
D
I
have
kids
that
walk
in
to
my
store
at
nine
o'clock
and
at
night
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
this
stays
safe.
It's
it's
it's
my
personal
responsibility
to
to
be
responsible
for
my
community
I
mean
I'm,
not
I'm,
making
money
off
alone,
but,
in
the
same
sense
I'm
not
out
to
harm
them.
This
is
my
people.
This
is
how
I
look
at
it.
C
M
C
And
I
actually
just
looked
up
the
actions.
It
sounded
like
the
motion
passed
on
a
voice
vote
amongst
the
four
of
them,
which
then
forwarded
it
to
the
full
City
Council,
which
was
the
following
week,
and
that's
the
vote
that
he
was
referencing.
That
Kevin
was
referencing.
That
was
ten
to
one
with
council
member
Gordon
voting
against
as
the
chair
or
as
the
author
of
the
menthol
ordinance
I
believe
so.
K
All
of
the
other
City
Council
members
voted
for
the
waiver
and
they
kicked
it
over
to
us.
Thank
you,
I
mean
I.
Think
we
need
to
get
honest
here.
What?
What?
If
there's
a
message
there
or
not
I'd
like
to
know
it
seems
like
11:00
to
1:00,
is
a
message.
I
have
some
concerns
about
the
fact
that
the
2040
plan
will
support
this.
That's
a
pretty
strong
statement
in
me
in
the
staff
report.
We
aren't
under
the
2040
plan.
K
Concerned
that
we're
getting
one
message
from
the
City
Council-
and
we
have
this
window
of
time
where
we
following
the
current
20
40
20
Minneapolis
plan
for
sustainable
growth-
does
not
support
it,
but
we
will,
in
the
future,
so
I
just
want
to
put
there
and
would
love
to
hear
more
discussion
on
that.
I'm.
M
To
clarify
there
seems
to
be
a
lot
of
confusion
around
the
process
here,
so
just
to
reiterate
one
more
time
so
the
waiver
that
went
to
the
zoning
and
planning
committee,
that
was
a
waiver
from
the
tobacco
moratorium.
That
vote
occurred.
That
was
to
allow
the
applicant
to
pursue
a
rezoning
application,
and
there
was
some
discussion
among
the
members
of
the
zoning
and
planning
committee
that
this
would
at
least
allow
him
a
chance
to
apply
for
the
rezoning
through
the
proper
channels
which
start
with
the
Planning
Commission.
M
L
Trade
just
to
be
clear,
the
council
is
trying
to
send
one
message:
we're
not
trying
to
send
mixed.
We
want
to
reduce
smoking
in
the
city
of
Minneapolis.
Now
what
that
looks
like
and
actually
doing,
it
is
very
complex,
as
some
of
that's
being
demonstrated
here,
a
moratorium
was
also
complex
is
something
we
don't
normally
like
to
do.
I'm
very
mixed
feelings
on
them.
It
is
something
that
you
know.
L
Think
that,
combined
with
a
lot
of
what
we're
hearing
tonight
really
led
to
the
the
waiver,
knowing
that
this
particular
applicant
would
have
to
go
through
zoning
as
well.
Now
that
said,
there's
I
know
that
my
colleagues
and
I've
pushed
them
to
that.
This
ideally
would
not
be
in
zoning
and
planning
to
have
a
zoning
solution
for
this
I
think
it's
messy
but
said
I
feel
like
for
the
policy
where
the
City
Council's
trying
to
work
on
zoning
seems
to
be
what
other
cities
around
the
country
have
turned
to
as
well.
K
M
Have
a
memo
in
my
inbox
about
the
timeline
that
is
currently
still
in
draft
form,
but
the
Met
Council
is
planning
to
act
on
their
portion
of
the
minneapolis
2040
plan
on
September
11th,
and
then
it
will
come
back
to
the
city
for
committee
meeting
and
then
full
council
after
that.
So
we're
working
out
the
exact
timeline
right
now,
just
based
on
council
calendars,
but
I
think
it's
reasonable
to
expect
October
for
an
adoption
date
with
a
potential
effective
date
to
come
later.
A
B
Okay,
so
I
am
I,
have
no
motion,
because
I'm
very
very
much
torn
on
this
in
front
for
few
reasons,
I'm
torn
partially
just
to
really
just
get
that
all
the
way.
But
though,
if
the
fact
that
in
a
year's
time
this
would
be
allowed
and
no
one
would
care,
it
seems
really
harsh
to
sacrifice
a
good
business
owner
and
arthas's.
B
We
have
so
few
on
that
altar,
given
the
fact
that
it's
not
as
if
well
in
the
2040
planning
to
have
to
apply
anyway
and
we'd,
be
under
the
same
binding
requirements,
party
pretty,
is
kind
of
finding
that
a
little
bit
concerning
so
so
that's
in
the
back
of
my
mind,
but
again
we
aren't
allowed
to
rule.
Is
that
because
I
know
we
have
a
comp
plan?
That
is
our
our
law
plan
way
to
follow
up
here
and-
and
that's
that's.
The
other
part
of
this
is
that
we
are
in
quasi
judicial
body.
B
We
have
rules,
we
have
to
follow,
regardless
of
how
we
personally
feel
about
something,
and
one
of
those
rules
has
to
do
with
the
fact
that
you
are
by
all
accounts
and
I
mean
all
accounts.
An
upstanding
guy
and
you
run
a
very
clean
awesome
business
that
helps
the
community.
We
have
to
look
at
you
as
if
you
are
you
today
and
you
sell
it
tomorrow
to
the
worst
human
being
on
the
earth.
What
is
the
worst
damage
they
could
do?
I
mean,
given
that
we
would
then
upzone
this
to
allow
for
this.
B
What
could
someone
else
do
now?
You
probably
won't
self
you
live
there.
You
work
there.
You've
invested
your
time.
Energy
and
money
and
I
know
this,
but
we
we
can't
do
that.
We
have
to
act
as
if
it
could
be
Joe
anybody
now.
Having
said
that,
though,
I'm
looking
through
the
findings
and
I
think
I
think
staff,
given
how
we
have
to
interpret
the
required
legal
findings
in
their
all
in
staff
report.
B
There
I
think
they
interpret
in
the
correctly
given
the
zoning
code,
we're
currently
under
I
think
there's
a
little
bit
of
your
proximity
to
other
competing
businesses
in
the
surrounding
suburbs.
I
think
is
intriguing
and
I'm
sure
that
that
actually
weighed
heavily
on
there
and
I'm,
not
on
the
council,
but
I
would
imagine
why
they
allowed,
for
this
exception,
to
the
moratorium
moratorium.
B
B
We
get
really
upset
about
things
that
contribute
to
childhood
asthma,
especially
since
fifty
percent
of
our
population
is
under
the
age
of
18,
and
we
rally
against
things
that
that
cause
asthma
and
yet
secondhand
smoke
is
like
huge,
so
I'm
really
torn
there,
because
I
look
at
the
health
of
the
community
and
I
can't
see
where
this
is
like.
It's
not
like
we're
you're
asking
to
sell
fruit
and
we're
it's
a
food
desert
and
they
go
well
fruits
good
for
people.
B
And
we're
we're
bound.
We
were
legally
bound
on
what
we
can
do.
However,
like
I
said
the
fact
that
in
a
year,
not
even
a
year
from
now,
you
would
just
walk
into
planning
and
submit
your
plans
and
walk
out
with
a
permit.
I
mean
really.
It
seems
a
harsh
consequence
of
a
casualty
of
this
rule
in
March.
I
am
so
very
much
on
the
fence
about
that,
because
I
feel
as
though
there's
some
extenuating
circumstances
that
make
your
specific
situation
different.
B
Then,
and
you
know
in
any
other
situation
in
the
city,
so
I'm
I'm
really
grappling
with
that
right
now
and
I
I
need
to
kind
of
think
can
I
just
a
little
bit,
because
I
feel
as
though,
if
and
I
feel
like
there's
there's
a
mitigating
circumstances
here
and
I.
Don't
know
how
to
evaluate
it
under
this
at
this
exact,
instant,
so
I'm,
hoping
in
the
next
times
ten
minutes
to
get
clarity.
C
The
point
that,
obviously
we
don't
know
what
the
zoning
code
text
amendment
schedule
is
at
this
point,
so
it
is
possible
that
even
once
the
2040
plan
was
adopted,
if
this
particular
application
was
not
approved,
that
the
applicant
would
perhaps
should
we
apply
again
for
rezoning,
which
would
then
be
evaluated
under
the
2040
plan.
It's
it's
not
likely
that
in
the
very
near
future
he
would
be
able
to
just
walk
in
and
get
a
building
permit
for
the
new
tobacco
shop.
Mr.
L
Strader
so
I'm
not
making
a
motion,
but
I
should
explain.
I,
usually
I,
try
not
to
make
motions
at
Planning
Commission,
because
I
will
see
things
that
zoning
and
planning,
but
I
think
on
this
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
we've
had
similarly
situated
tobacco
shops,
including
one
in
my
ward,
that
is
feet
from
Richfield
and
a
suburb
in
itself
and
I
think
well
that
we
don't
go
in
that
time
line
is
that's
what
we'll
be
pushing
my
feelings
of
just
being
fair
to
those
there's.
L
N
Oh
I
do
think
this
is
outline
really
well
on
the
staff
report
ultimately
and
I.
Think
the
the
business
owner
and
the
neighbors
make
a
compelling
case
for
giving
this
particular
business
and
and
ability
to
alter
its
business
model.
However,
what
we
really
have
to
look
at
are
the
policies
of
the
comprehensive
plan
and
on
a
community
corridor
like
44th,
Avenue,
its
expansion
or
intensification
of
commercial
uses
is
really
not
encouraged.