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From YouTube: December 9, 2019 City Planning Commission
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Minneapolis City Planning Commission Meeting
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A
All
right,
the
time
is
431
and
we'll
call
together
the
December,
9th
Minneapolis
City
Planning
Commission
hearing.
My
name
is
Sam
Rockwell
I
serve
as
the
president
of
the
Commission
I'm
joined
here
today
by
commissioners,
Brown,
O'gill,
Coleman,
Swezey,
Schrader,
Olsen
and
cron
sir.
Our
first
order
of
business
today
is
to
approve
the
actions
from
the
November
4th.
B
A
A
motion,
and
a
second
all
in
favor,
say
aye
any
opposed
that
motion
carries
next,
we
will
is
the
committee
the
whole
agenda
from
November
21st,
commissioner
luke
appears
now
here,
so
we
reviewed
a
modification
number
3
to
the
housing
replacement
district
plan
and
there
is
a
recommended
motion
to
approve
the
housing
replacement
district
plant
expansion
modification
is
consistent
with
the
minneapolis
plan
for
sustainable
growth.
For
those
of
us
who
are
at
the
committee,
the
whole
hearing
there
were
additional
items
in
our
packets
today,
I'm,
not
sure.
A
I've
got
a
motion
and
a
second
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
motion
carries
our
next
or
a
business
is
to
organize
the
agenda
for
today's
hearing.
I
will
walk
through
all
the
agenda
items
on
the
agenda.
If
you
are
here
to
speak
against
a
an
item
or
via
staffs
recommendation,
please
raise
your
hand
when
I
walked
through
that
item,
and
otherwise
we
will
place
that
item
on
consent.
So
is
anyone
here
to
testify
on
item
number
one
attract
a
yes
353,
North
fifth
Street
in
Ward
3,
seeing
no
one
I'll
place
that
item
on
consent.
A
Item
number
two
is
tract:
F
353,
North,
fifth
Street
in
Ward
3.
Anyone
here
to
speak
on
item
number,
two
seeing
nobody
I'll
place
that
on
consent
item
number
three:
it's
the
Kemp
paper
Corporation
registered
land
survey,
31
45,
Columbia,
Avenue,
Northeast
and
32
36
California
Street
northeast
in
Ward.
One
is
anyone
here
to
speak
on
that
register
at
land
survey
to
see
no
one
I'll
place
that
item
on
a
consent.
Item
number
four:
is
the
Bakken
museum
remodel
at
35
37
Zenith
Avenue
South
in
Ward
13?
A
Is
anyone
here
to
speak
on
item
number
four
play
704
on
consent.
Item
number
five
is
3750
Zenith
Avenue,
South,
Ward,
13
variance
and
minor
subdivision.
There's
anyone
here
to
speak
on
item
number:
five.
We
have
one
person
on
item
number
five
will
discuss.
Item
number
five
item
number.
Six
is
thirty:
five,
twenty
eight
to
thirty
five,
thirty
Bloomington
Avenue
South
in
word
nine.
Anyone
here
to
speak
on
item
number,
six
place.
Item
number:
six
on
consent.
A
Item
number
seven
is
fourteen:
twenty
eight
to
fourteen
forty,
four
Marshall
Street,
North,
East
and
War
three
is
item.
Anyone
here
to
speak
on
item
number,
seven
see
no
one
will
play
said
number,
seven
on
consent
and
item
number
eight
is
the
thinking
town
mixed-use
project,
which
we
will
discuss
and
item
number.
Nine
is
the
zoning
code
text
amendment
which
we
will
discuss
so
our
agenda
as
amended,
is
a
discussion
of
items
number
five,
eight
and
nine
and
item
it's
a
number
one.
Two
three
four
six
and
seven
are
on
consent.
A
Commissioners
could
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
as
amended,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
all
in
favor
aye.
Any
opposed
that
motion
carries
with
that.
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
on
the
consent
agenda.
If
anyone
wishes
to
speak
on
the
consent
agenda,
seeing
no
one
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
on
the
consent
agenda.
Commissioners
do
I
have
a
hearing
to
approve
Commissioner
Brown,
sir.
Yes,.
C
A
D
Good
afternoon
planning
commissioners,
president
Rockwell
the
property
located
at
3750,
seen
at
the
Avenue
South,
the
property
owners
are
seeking
to
applications
before
you
today.
The
first
is
a
variance
to
allow
for
the
existing
structure
in
its
present
location
and
a
minor
subdivision
which
will
allow
for
a
developable
lot
lot
beyond
the
north.
D
Property
that
you
can
see
here
has
an
existing
single-family
drawing
with
a
vacant
lot
to
the
north.
The
property
is
piloted
with
two
Lots
and
the
applicant,
as
I
mentioned,
is
intending
to
keep
the
house
in
the
present
location
and
there
is
a
bump
out
on
the
north
property
line
or
what
would
become
the
north
property
line.
So
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
adjust
that
common
lot
line
to
allow
for
a
minimum
of
five
feet
from
that
bump
out
to
comply
with
the
building
code.
D
So,
as
you
can
see
a
lot,
nine
would
be
the
vacant
lot
developable
in
the
future.
The
applicant
intends
to
sell
that
lot,
so
we
do
not
have
a
plan
for
the
proposed
structure
on
the
vacant
lot.
At
this
point
and
then,
as
I
mentioned,
the
existing
single-family
dwelling
is
intended
to
remain
the
minimum
interior
side.
D
Yard
setback
is
7
feet,
which
is
increased
based
on
a
lot
with
the
existing
lot
increased
from
6
feet
or
5
feet,
which
would
be
allowed
on
a
narrower
a
lot
in
addition
to
the
minor
subdivision
when
property
does
not
have
access
to
a
public
alley.
We
ask
that
the
Lots
be
increased,
so
the
minimum
walked
within
the
Arwen
district
is
50
feet.
So
we
would
ask
that
it
be
60
feet
to
accommodate
the
driveway
as
proposed.
D
Staff
has
addressed
the
required
findings
for
the
variance
and
found
that
the
proposed
project
should
be
a
proof
of
the
variance
to
allow
for
the
reduction
in
the
north
interior
side,
yard
setback,
and
then
all
of
the
findings
were
met
for
the
minor
subdivision.
So
staff
has
indicated
on
page
six
of
the
staff
report
to
recommend
approval
the
two
applications,
without
additional
conditions
of
approval,
to
be
happy
to
take
any
questions.
A
E
Hi
I'm
Charlie
Gallup
I'm,
the
applicant.
Oh,
oh-
and
this
was
maybe
just
a
bookkeeping
issue,
but
there
was
a
there
was
a
typo
in
the
packet
that
was
sent
and
but
it
affected
the
square
footage
of
the
lot.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
was
addressed.
It's
on
page
four
of
the
packet
and
I
tried
to
get.
Although
Shanna
early
today
and
I,
we
didn't,
we
didn't
connect
so
very
good.
E
A
Very
good:
we
will
make
sure
that
that's
addressed
we'll
help
or
anything.
Thank
you
is
there
anybody
else
wishing
to
speak
on
this.
Alright,
with
that
I
will
close
public
hearing
and
commissioners.
We
have
two
items
before
us
and
we
have
a
correction
of
a
typo
and
finding
number
one
of
our
minor
subdivision.
Anybody
like
to
start
off
with
the
motion.
H
A
Good,
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
items.
A
and
B
do
we
have
a
second,
we
have
a
second
and
noting
the
type
of
correction
and
finding
number
one
of
the
minor
subdivision
any
discussion
seeing
none.
We
can
just
do
a
voice
vote,
all
in
favor,
say
aye.
Any
opposed
motion
carries.
That
concludes
our
business
with
item
number.
Five.
Thank
you.
Our
next
item
of
business
is
item
number
8.
The
Dinkytown
mixed-use
project
and
Lindsay
is
staff.
I
Good
evening,
commissioners,
the
site
before
you
consists
of
five
parcels
and
almost
one
and
a
half
acres
in
size.
It's
one
half
of
a
block
with
frontage
on
4th
Street,
southeast
15th,
Avenue,
southeast
and
5th
Street
southeast
in
Dinkytown.
The
site
currently
contains
the
Dinkytown
McDonald's
and
drive
through
several
one-story
commercial
buildings
and
a
large
surface
parking
lot.
The
applicant
has
proposed
a
10-story
mixed-use
building
on
the
site,
with
329
dwelling
units
consisting
of
eight
hundred
eighty
five
bedrooms
and
23,000
square
feet
of
commercial
space.
I
The
site
has
a
significant
grade:
change
between
4th
Street,
South,
East
and
5th
Street
southeast.
So
there
is
commercial
fronting
on
both
streets,
but
they
are
separated
by
one
level
and
you've
seen
this
project
most
recently
in
November,
a
committee
of
the
whole,
there
are
a
number
of
applications
required
for
the
project
of
the
zoning
on
the
site
currently
consists
of
C
1
and
C
2.
I
I
So
the
proposal
currently
is
for
a
10,000
square
foot
commercial
space
running
on
5th
Street
and
three
smaller
commercial
spaces,
fronting
on
4th
Street,
with
the
proposal
to
relocate
the
current
McDonald's
fast-food
restaurant
into
the
corner
of
commercial
space
there,
and
this
is
the
floor
plans
for
the
b1
level
and
the
level
1
the
elevations
are
shown
here.
The
applicant
is
proposing
brick
metal
panel
and
stucco
as
the
main
exterior
materials
and
some
elevations
submitted
for
the
project.
I
So
the
the
site
has
guidance
to
support
some
extent.
Mixed-Use
high
density
projects,
both
under
the
existing
Comprehensive
Plan
and
the
Minneapolis
2040
plan
and
staff,
is
balancing
the
guidance
between
those
two
plans
at
this
time
since
it's
coming
through
now,
but
the
rezoning
will
be
coming
through
under
2040
as
the
council
meeting
that
this
will
be
related
to
go
to
is
not
until
next
year.
I
So
under
the
current
company
on
the
Minneapolis,
the
plan
for
sustainable
growth,
the
site
is
estimated
as
an
excuse:
the
status
within
the
University
of
Minnesota
growth
center,
the
Dinkytown
activity
center
and
fronts
on
a
community
corridor.
So
the
guidance
we
have
in
the
existing
comprehensive
plan
calls
for
up
to
800
drawing
units
per
acre,
and
the
proposal
is
for
227
12
units
per
acre
under
Minneapolis
2040.
The
site
is
designated
as
community
mixed-use
and
corridor
six
corridor.
Six
allows
for
six
storeys
in
height
and
there
is
a
provision
that
allows
for
increased
Heights.
I
The
applicant
has
proposed
several
what
they're
calling
community
benefits
those
those
goals
that
would
further
comprehensive
or
those
benefits
that
were
further
comprehensive
plan
goals.
That
includes
a
voluntary
compliance
with,
not
quite
with
the
inclusionary
zoning
that
will
become
effective
as
of
January
1st,
but
very
similar
to
proposing
affordable
housing
for
8%
of
bedrooms.
I
I
So
while
there
might
be
a
10-story
building
on
the
site,
the
staff
would
support
the
proposed
building,
which
is
quite
bulky
and
really
appears
to
be
a
ten
story.
Building
with
few
recesses
and
step
backs
that
might
mitigate
the
impact
of
that
additional
bulk
is
not
something
that
staff
is
able
to
support.
In
addition,
there
there's
a
loading
variance.
The
staff
is
recommending
denial
of
mainly
because
the
applicant
has
submitted
findings
that
really
speak
to
the
residential
loading
on
site,
at
which
all
the
units
are
proposed
to
be
furnished.
I
So
the
staff
does
recognize
that
it
may
be
reasonable
to
not
provide
residential
loading
on
site.
However,
the
there
still
is
one
small,
commercial
or
one
small
space
required
for
the
commercial
and
on
the
submitted
plans
that
space
is
located
within
the
parking
garage.
While
the
applicant
has
indicated
that
commercial
loading
would
not
occur
in
that
based
and
instead
is
proposed
to
be
in
a
small
kind
of
cutout
area.
I
So
with
that
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
the
rezoning.
The
conditional
use
permit
the
non-compulsory
action
of
a
non-conforming
use,
variance
for
the
to
reduce
the
minimum
parking
requirement,
the
variance
of
pedestrian
oriented
overlay
district
standards,
but
staff
is
recommending
denial
of
the
floor
area
ratio,
variance
loading
variance
and
site
plan
review
as
the
site
plan
review
is
really
tied
to
that
design
of
the
building.
That
requires
the
floor
area
ratio.
Variance,
so
I
will
stand
for
questions.
Commissioners.
A
J
Yes,
share
Rockwell.
The
findings
in
the
staff
report
have
been
written
as
needed
to
address
both
the
current
comp
plan,
the
Minneapolis
plan
for
sustainable
growth
and,
where
necessary,
Minneapolis
2040,
so
land-use
decisions
based
on
comp
plan
guidance
or
that
have
to
take
the
comp
plan.
Consistency
into
account
need
to
be
made
based
on
the
policy,
that's
in
effect
at
the
time
that
you're
making
the
decision.
So
today
we
are
working
under
the
minneapolis
plan
for
sustainable
growth.
J
The
rezoning
is
going
to
be
going
forward
to
the
City
Council
in
January,
under
Minneapolis
2040,
so
would
any
appeal,
that's
received
from
the
actions
of
this
meeting
would
also
be
going
forward
in
January.
So
in
order
to
avoid
a
case
where
we
had
to
rewrite
the
staff
report
quickly
before
znp,
where
needed
have
been
addressed
both
ways
so
for
tonight,
your
decision
on
the
conditional
use
permit
should
really
be
based
on
the
Minneapolis
plan
for
sustainable
growth.
A
A
A
In
the
applicants,
application
on
page
four
I
think
of
their
application,
no
well
somewhere
in
their
application
on
page
one
of
their
application,
they
list
a
whole
bunch,
I,
don't
know.
Maybe
eighteen
community
benefits
we,
the
only
community
benefits
that
are
actually
legally
binding.
Alice
conditions
on
that
conditional
use
permit
for
height.
Are
your
conditions
number
two
and
three
correct?
A
K
The
key
commissioners
I'm
Ryan,
said
OE
with
CA
ventures.
We
are
the
applicant
team,
along
with
the
SG
here,
we're
gonna
get
a
few
things
queued
up,
but
wanted
to.
Thank
you
for
your
time
today,
Lindsay
and
staff,
as
well
as
well
as
the
various
stakeholders.
As
you
may
know,
this
is
a
very
iconic
corner
and
we
don't
take
that
lightly.
K
We've
been
meeting
with
various
stakeholders
on
all
fronts,
the
various
neighborhood
meetings
about
seven
or
so
in
total
meeting
with
other
stakeholders,
the
MSA
and
the
Dickie
town
Business
Association,
which
actually
should
have
a
letter
of
support
forthcoming.
They
weren't
able
to
give
that
drafted
by
this
meeting,
also
city
staff,
Hennepin,
County,
Metro,
transit
to
date
and
I'm,
going
with
them
as
well,
and
also
several
meetings
with
Councilman
Fletcher
to
to
work
out
the
affordable.
K
Obviously,
that's
a
major
piece
here:
the
project
as
a
whole,
as
as
you
mentioned,
329
units
and
207
parking
spots,
which
I
will
know,
does
not
have
a
impact
to
traffic
operations
on
that
corner.
That
means
the
queuing
time
and
the
delays
are
the
same
because
of
the
drive-through.
That's
there
right
now
in
the
the
traffic
counts
that
it
produces.
So
this
offsets
that
as
well,
approximately
23,000
square
feet
of
commercial
most
have
been
allocated.
K
We've
talked
to
all
owners
there
and
have
worked
out
agreements
with
them,
and
everyone
on
that
front
is
happy
with
where
we're
at
and
that
process
certainly
more
to
come
there
as
we
as
we
do,
have
a
large
space,
and
we
are
looking
for
great
times
for
those
locations.
The
inclusion
areas
only
elective
proposal
on
our
inclusionary
zoning
you've
been
working
well
we're
kind
of
the
guinea
pigs
for
this.
So
we'll
be
bet
a
lot
of
ideas.
K
Think
we've
come
to
a
pretty
good
idea
here
that
we're
trying
to
implement
and
then
something
that's
new
and
not
really
addressed
in
there
is
this
affordable
for
small
local
businesses
and
to
really
try
to
keep
that
in
Dinkytown,
and
that's
been
heard
through
several
meetings
that
that's
very
important
to
the
community
and
our
goal
is
to
utilize
that,
as
well
and
kind
of
think
outside
of
the
box,
they're,
not
just
affordable
units,
but
also
kind
of
keep
some
of
those
businesses
in
place.
They're.
K
K
We
have
state-of-the-art
security
features
that
will
be
implemented
there,
there'll
be
a
lot
of
traffic,
obviously
with
the
bus
routes
and
everything
there's
a
very
important
intersection
for
are
all
sorts
of
transit
there
and
the
security
and
operations
that
we
provide
there
with
eyes
on
the
ground
and
well-lit
areas
and
not
having
any
of
those
locations.
That
can
have
bad
stuff
can
happen
so
with
that
I
will
pass
that
to
the
design
team
to
let
them
get
started
out.
Those
are
out
there
if
you
want
to
discuss
some
of
the
design
features.
L
We
will
just
summarize
will
just
summarize
a
couple
design
items
here
for
you:
I'll
first
start
with
a
site
plan
here,
so
we've
been
working
with
staff
at
the
city
as
this
has
evolved
as
well
as
Metro
Transit
staff
and
Hennepin
County
staff
and
urban
county
is
County.
Fourth,
Street
is
a
Hennepin
County
Road,
as
well
as
the
bridge
at
the
chamfered
edge
of
the
property.
So,
overall
the
site
plan.
You
can
see
some
site
plan
sections
there
on
the
screen,
and
these
are
both
of
our
designs.
L
One
in
that
area,
I'll
just
highlight
here,
the
retail
arcade
and
then
the
residential
arcade
I'm,
going
to
speak
about
both
just
now,
so
both
of
those
are
about
providing
access
as
the
as
the
site
slopes
off
from
the
corner
of
the
High
Point
at
the
corner
of
4th
and
15th
and
as
it
goes
down
and
grade
in
both
directions
to
plan
north
and
plan
west.
So
that's
the
purpose
of
those
arcades.
L
Additionally,
they
give
us
a
little
more
space
for
circulation
and
entry
into
the
building
and
allow
the
right-of-way
beyond
the
property
line,
to
be
used.
As
you
see
in
cross-section
there
with
a
really
robust
plan
there
for
plantings
and
other
urban
design
amenity
features
so
on
for
Street,
we
have
receive
from
feedback
from
Metro
Transit
about
what
they'd
prefer
there
there's
a
future
Uihlein
bus,
rapid
transit,
which
is
evolving
and
will
probably
continue
evolve
as
the
project
potentially
goes
forward.
L
L
So
our
main
residential
entry
is
along
that
that
arcade,
that
you
see
there
on
the
long
15th,
so
we're
proposing
that
that
raised
bike
lane
we're
also
proposing
a
visitor
and
ride
shared
drop-off
zone,
which
would
also
take
that
conflict
away
from
the
bike
lanes,
as
well
as
the
potential
conflict
of
that
with
the
bus,
nubuck
new
bus
station
plan.
So
while
there's
plenty
of
buses
on
4th,
there's
also
actually
plenty
on
15th
as
well.
L
Currently
the
site
is
served
by
a
shelter
just
at
the
chamfered
corner
at
the
bridge
and
under
this
new
plan,
we'd
have
to
proposed
locations
both
out
out
board
and
at
the
boulevard,
and
the
one
on
15th
would
have
the
bike
lane
swoop
behind
it.
On
the
North
half
of
15th,
there
there's
six
trees
in
a
very
ample
Boulevard
between
the
bike
lane
itself
and
the
and
the
building
and
then
moving
around
to
the
fifth
Street
side.
L
Again,
a
very
existing
condition
there
of
a
very
ample
Boulevard,
which
we
would
keep
and
enhance
with
with
further
plantings,
bicycle
racks
and
other
amenities
in
that
zone
that
that
whole
side
of
history
faces
a
commercial
zone.
There
about
12,000
square
feet,
a
few
other
items,
I'd
note
on
the
site
plan
and
then
I'll
talk
about
the
proposed
loading
plan,
which
Lyndsey
alluded
to
in
a
minute.
We
had
some
feedback
from
general
in
a
couple
places
that
the
alley
should
be
a
one-way
alley,
so
we
have
made
that
change
from
it
in
future.
L
In
previous
renditions,
it
was
looked
at
as
a
two-way
alley
for
at
least
part
of
it
or
all
of
it,
we've
since
modified
that
to
a
one-way
alley,
and
that
was
really
due
to
some
really
good
feedback.
We
got
from
various
people,
neighborhood
and
staff
and
Metro
Transit
about
that.
The
entry
point
coming
from
forth
needing
to
be
a
one
way
to
mitigate
and
eliminate
potential
pedestrian
conflicts
along
four
street,
so
that
right
now
is
a
one
way
proposed
going
north
from
4th
Street
to
5th
Street
as
a
one-way.
L
And
then
our
entries
points
to
the
building
are
are
in
that
alley,
and
so
actually,
we've
in
previous
renditions
had
a
curb
cut
on
Fifth
Street,
we've
eliminated
that
curb
cut
and
that's
all
happening
through
the
alley.
Now
what
you're?
Seeing
on
the
screen?
Now
is
a
proposed
as
a
diagram
that
shows
how
we're
planning
to
handle
the
loading
and
drop-offs
for
the
building.
So
there's
three
yellow
zones
there
in
the
alley.
L
Those
would
be
locations
of
potential
delivery,
parking
zones
where
the
one-way
traffic
would
still
be
able
to
go
through
the
site,
and
then
those
deliveries
could
happen
in
those
songs,
there's
a
50-foot
zone
and
an
18-foot
zone
in
each
of
those
places,
and
then
the
red
arrows
indicate
the
procession
into
the
building
from
those.
Additionally,
there
is
a
loading
zone
which
we
we
plan
to
use
for
commercial
and
residential
located
at
that
area
within
the
building.
At
this
point,
there
isn't
a
plan
for
it
to
be
exclusively
residential
or
commercial.
L
L
M
I
want
to
look
at
both
the
15th
Avenue
and
4th
Street
elevations
and
show
their
relationship
to
the
historic
buildings
both
to
the
north
and
to
the
west.
So
the
top
elevation
is
the
15th
Avenue
and
you
can
see
to
the
north.
Some
three
storey
buildings
and
we've
modified
our
massing
at
the
building
to
have
both
a
two-story
along
5th
Street,
come
up
to
a
three
storey
and
have
this
nice
relationship
to
those
buildings
across
the
street
that
upper
mass
with
the
stucco
on
top.
M
Some
of
the
things
that
we've
changed
since
we
met
with
you
at
Kao
the
proportions
and
rhythm
of
the
windows
on
the
second
story
of
the
two-story
version.
So
we've
really
scaled
those
down
in
relation
to
the
historic
buildings
next
door,
as
well
as
opened
up
the
arcade
so
that
the
there's
a
lot
more
visibility.
M
So
another
view
along
15th
Avenue
the
residential
entry
at
the
center,
and
you
can
see
how
dramatically
the
grade
drops
using
a
planting
bed
and
some
really
wide.
We
widen
those
stairways
for
the
access
for
the
residents,
an
aerial
view.
You
can
see
the
commercial
arcade
along
Forest
Street
its
relationship
to
the
existing
buildings
in
Dinkytown
as
well
as
then
also
the
relationship
to
those
buildings
to
the
north
on
15th
Avenue.
L
With
that
I'll
just
summarize
a
couple
other
things:
yes,
the
the
setbacks
have
been
maximized
to
the
extent
possible
and
still
still
making
the
floor
plans
work
and
the
unit
count
possible
for
the
nature
of
this
project
to
be
built.
Quite
frankly,
so
one
other
item,
oh
I,
missed
my
site
plan.
Was
we
have
a
proposed
Plaza
at
the
corner
which
you've
seen
in
some
of
these
renderings
and
the
site
plans
itself
on
that
plot?
That
plaza
is
out
in
that
chamfered
public
of
way.
L
The
design
of
that
is
a
little
bit
on
going
with
with
Hennepin
County
and
the
city,
but
we
have
a
proposed
design
of
that.
That
is
currently
meeting
the
plaza
standards,
but
just
so
you
know
it
is
continuing
to
evolve
and
we're
open
to
to
that
design
evolving,
as
as
those
discussions
go
forward,
but
about
how
it
can
be
built
with
that,
our
design
team
is
available
for
any
questions.
Should
you
have
them
as
well
as
as
I
saw
some
the
developer
commissioners.
N
L
Electricity
hadn't
been
dislodged
for
the
first
one
commissioner,
cancer
electricity
hadn't
been
discussed
yet
in
any
of
the
meetings
with
with
Metro
Transit
explicitly,
but
I
think
the
idea
was
would
be
that,
as
these
are
reconstructed
that
yes,
it
would
be
provided.
I,
don't
know,
what's
the
source
of
it,
whether
it
be
the
house,
you
know,
would
come
back
from
our
project
or
elsewhere,
but
I
think
the
bulb
is
open
to
making
that
consideration.
L
M
O
I
Yet
they
did
share
this
with
me
earlier.
I
think.
The
main
concern
is
that
there
just
is
not
like
the
the
main
space
where
they're
proposing
for
loading
vehicles
to
weight
is
not
the
required
width
by
the
zoning
code.
So
it's
only
five
feet
wide.
So
if
the
proposal
is
just
for
a
one-way
alley
here,
it
seems
likely
that
commercial
traffic,
if
using
that
as
as
a
loading
space,
might
block
traffic
flow
into
and
out
of
the
sites.
I
G
L
N
L
L
O
L
We're
currently,
the
plan
is
to
pursue
an
easement
with
the
properties
to
the
west.
There
currently
is
an
existing
alley
there
on
the
other
side
of
the
property
line,
which
is
two-way,
currently
used
as
a
two-way
alley
coming
and
going
from
the
backsides
of
those
properties.
So
this
shows
a
proposed
easement
with
them
to
use
a
portion
of
their
alley
and
combine
the
two
into
a
one-way
alley
going
north.
L
What
worst
case
situation
would
be
to
reverse
to
alleys
proposed
there
they're
grandfathered
in
as
a
to
two-way
alley,
that's
ten
feet
wide
and
then
we're
proposing
a
one-way
le
directly.
Next
to
that
on
our
side
of
the
property,
that's
also
ten
feet
wide.
That
would
be
a
nightmare
situation
for,
for
the
alley,
add
forth
as
it
meets
there.
So
this
plan
potentially
cleans
up
that
issue
as
well
as
provides
better
access
for
these
other
properties
and
the
whole
block
in
general
for
deliveries
and
trash
and
any
other
vehicles
that
would
come
and
go.
A
Commissioners,
further
questions
for
staff
or
the
applicant,
alright,
thank
you
very
much
with
that.
I
will
open
public
hearing
for
it.
Everyone
else
here
remind
everyone
that
we
have
a
few
applications
that
we're
looking
at
specifically,
and
so
keeping
comments
on
those
applications
would
be
great.
Anyone
who
wants
to
testify
come
forward
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Q
Thus,
I
have
a
unique
perspective
on
what
happens
when
you
change
traffic
patterns
and
when
you
look
at
traffic
patterns,
I
have
lived
in
the
neighborhood
for
10
years.
I've
used
that
intersection
to
get
on
and
off
buses
and
it
transfer
I
have
stood
there
multiple
times
for
long
periods
of
times.
Observing
what's
happened.
While
I
waited
for
bus
to
arrive.
There
are
several
difficulties
with
this
plan.
First,
the
recessed
bike.
Q
Our
bus,
stop
on
4th
Street
would
create
a
criminal
issue
for
the
fact
that
it
would
be
back
away
from
the
lighted,
sidewalk
or
multiple
people
driving
by
walking
bicycling
bite
could
see.
What's
going
on,
if
your
back
into
recess,
neighborhood
recessed
alcohol
at
a
building
you're
not
going
to
be
seen,
you're
going
to
be
subject
to
criminal
activity?
Q
Q
If
the
bus
has
to
wait
for
the
pedestrians
to
Corfu
exit
the
intersection
before
it
can
turn,
it
will
invariably
be
sitting
there
when
the
light
changes
blocking
traffic
on
14th
Avenue,
thus
slowing
down
in
increasing
congestion,
not
only
that
there
are
up
to
three
buses
that
are
will
arrive.
At
the
same
time,
there
are
four
or
five
or
more
bus
lines
that
use
that
shelter,
especially
if
you
count
the
BRT
that
is
proposed.
Q
Thus,
will
there
be
space
for
the
buses
to
come
in
to
discharge
pick
up
passengers
and
then
leave
while
not
having
to
sit
idle
and
wait?
Currently
they
leapfrog
around
each
other.
If
they're
exiting
from
the
proposed
thing,
they
would
have
to
cross
the
pedestrians
that
have
to
cross
the
lane
where
currently
there's
car
parking
cross
the
bike
and
scooter
lane
and
enter
the
traffic
main
traffic
lane.
That
would
be
chaos.
Q
Q
Q
Moving
on
to
15th
Avenue
15th
Avenue
has
bike
traffic,
pedestrian
traffic
and
bus
traffic
as
well
as
car
traffic.
If
you
have
the
buses
move
over
at
5th
Street
to
cross
the
bike
lane
so
that
they
can
access
the
bus,
stop
whether
they
have
to
discharge
people
or
not
means
that
every
bus
coming
down
that
street
will
have
to
pull
over
and
come
in
through
that
energy.
Q
They
will
then
have
to
cross
the
bike
lane
again
on
15th
Street
on
4th
Street
coming
out
they're
going
to
be
a
lot
of
pedestrians
on
4th
Street
trying
to
cross
while
the
bus
is
trying
to
cross
as
well.
I.
Think
this
crisscross
pattern
isn't
is
a
recipe
for
disaster,
also
stalled
and
sitting
traffic
and
idling
traffic
cause
air
pollution.
The
city
of
Minneapolis
has
a
major
problem
with
air
pollution.
It
did
an
extensive
study
and,
if
you
look,
there
were
two
of
the
five
significant
pollutants
are
auto
generated.
Q
Naphthalene
is
a
problem
throughout
the
city
throughout
the
year.
Stagnant
air
makes
it
worse
that
causes
eye
irritation.
Nose.
Irritation
throws
the
irritation
and
excess
deaths
from
other
causes.
If
you
build
this
building
up
like
it
is,
it
will
cause
change
in
the
airflow
patterns.
The
prevailing
airflow
comes
from
the
Northwest.
This
would
cause
cause
in
Airport,
thus
causing
increased
stagnation
of
air
there.
Thus,
the
pedestrians,
the
cyclist,
the
scooters
etc
will
be
at
increased
risk
for
air
pollution
problems.
Q
R
Crawford
1055
14th
Avenue
southeast
in
the
Como
neighborhood,
the
Dickey
town
neighborhood,
is
one
of
the
treasures
of
the
city,
along
with
the
other
small
business
districts
like
uptown
and
Linden
Hills,
it's
kind
of
a
unique
mix
of
the
old
streetcar,
two-story
architecture,
streetscape
and
the
vitality
that
comes
from
the
mix
of
small
shops
and
a
local
community
service
services
and
and
businesses
provided
there.
The
city
needs
to
plan
very
very
carefully
to
preserve
the
vitality
of
these
jewels
of
the
city.
R
This
proposal
does
nothing
to
further
it
and
will
in
fact
destroy
some
of
the
remaining
vitality
of
the
Dinkytown
neighborhood.
The
scale
of
the
building
at
10
stories
is
so
tall
that
it
will
actually
destroy
the
streetscape.
If
you
stand,
for
example,
at
the
corner
of
Fifth,
Street
and
14th,
this
will
be
a
solid
wall
rising
above
the
remaining
historic
portions
of
dinky
town.
In
fact,
it
will
actually
probably
shadow
through
the
14th
Street
heart
of
dinky
town,
initiated
into
shadow
for
a
good
portion
of
the
day.
R
Nothing
justifies
in
the
proposal,
the
exemptions
from
zoning
and
planning
that
the
developers
are
asking
for,
in
fact,
the
proposal.
So
full
of
implausibility
x'
and
contradictions
that
it
really
falls
flat
on
its
face,
if
you,
if
they
actually
have
businesses
in
the
business,
footage
that
they
proposed
the
development,
would
blockade,
dinky,
town
and
the
main
arteries
going
through
it
with
all
the
delivery
trucks
that
would
be
pushing
in
and
parking
all
around
on
all
sides
of
the
building
to
make
local
deliveries.
R
Aside
from
residential
delivery
services
to
the
tenants
of
a
ten
story,
building
for
a
comparison,
I'd
encourage
the
council
to
consider
the
nearby
area
of
stadium
village,
which
once
actually
was
a
fairly
vital,
streetscape
community
center.
It
has
received
development
very
similar
to
this,
and,
of
course,
as
you
probably
know,
it
is
now
completely
lifeless
and
and
ablated
as
far
as
street
activity
and
vitality.
That's
that's
exactly
the
recipe
that
you're
going
to
apply
to
dinky
town
and
although
dinky
town
has
been
damaged,
it
still
has
a
lot
of
vitality
left.
R
R
The
ideal
solution
which
I
would
encourage
the
city
ncpad
to
be
negotiating
for,
would
be
to
encourage
a
consortium
of
developers
who
have
long
sensed,
leverage
the
attraction
of
dinky
town
and
built
around
it
with
numerous
new
high-density
developments,
they've
leveraged
upon
it,
they've
certainly
profited
from
it.
Now
it
might
be
time
for
the
consortium
of
developers
to
go
in
and
try
to
restore
the
vitality
of.
Thank
you
Tom.
R
By
taking
this
block
and
building
a
two-story
compatible,
brick
wraparound
of
the
small
sites
get
rid
of
the
surface
parking
if
that's
no
longer
acceptable,
but
a
ring
that
block
with
compatible
small
business
center
architecture
to
try
to
restore
and
encourage
the
further
development
and
life
of
the
dinky
town
area.
Thank
you.
S
I'm
Michael
gloss,
my
address
is
1,200
Nicollet,
Mall
and
I'm,
testifying
to
talk
about
walkability
sustainability
and
transit,
so
on
walkability
I
moved
from
Standish
in
South
Minneapolis,
which
is
very
non
dense
to
Loring
Park
this
actually
just
a
month
ago,
and
the
reason
was
that
in
Standish
we
had
an
infant
a
year
ago
and
it
was.
It
was
very
difficult
to
navigate
that
neighborhood
with
a
stroller
on
unshelled
sidewalks
businesses
were
far
apart.
So
anytime
we
were
traveling
somewhere.
S
This
is
right
in
your
University
of
Minnesota,
so
there's
many
many
residences
that
are
gonna
be
added
from
this
project.
They're
within
walking
distance
of
either
school
or
of
the
many
jobs
are
at
on
campus
I,
see
no
reason
to
limit
the
number
of
units
that
are
being
built,
I,
think
there's
pushback
on
the
floor
surface
or
the
floor
ratio
to
the
lot
size,
I've
traveled
extensively
around
the
world
and
seen
many
walkable
neighborhoods
that
have
similar
ten
story,
buildings
block
after
block
and
if
there's
enough
protection
for
pedestrians
and
cyclists.
S
These
are
these
are
highly
walkable,
quiet,
safe
neighborhoods.
Certain
things
do
need
to
be
managed
like
loading
and
I.
Think
that
that's
being
taken
into
consideration
also
in
walkability,
it's
it
seems
like
the
proposes
like.
Maybe
this
is
more
in
cycling.
The
bike
way
that
is
elevated
is
being
taken
in
consideration
which
should
provide
safety.
We
biked
that
area
a
lot
maybe
to
keep
down
green
white.
S
However,
biking
on
the
street
with
lots
of
traffic
can
be
quite
dangerous,
so
I'm
glad
they
took
that
into
consideration
and
finally,
as
a
daily
transit
user,
the
BRT
is
coming
in
down
that
stretch
and
eliminate
the
number
of
residents
that
live
within
high
frequency
transit
is
really
disservice
to
the
work
that
the
Metro
Transit
has
been
doing.
I
really
would
like
to
use
the
bus
to
get
everywhere
in
town.
However,
there
are
certain
limitations
that
occasionally
present
a
challenge
to
families,
and
that's
lack
of
frequency.
S
T
My
name
is
Caroline
Pamela
SEC
I
live
at
1849,
Washington,
Avenue,
South
and
I
am
a
junior
at
the
University
of
Minnesota
and
that
entire
time
I
have
been
involved
with
student
governance
and
with
student
advocacy
and
from
interacting
with
a
lot
of
my
peers.
I've
generally
found
that
this
pop
that
this
proposed
project
is
wildly
unpopular
for
most
students,
whether
they
live
in
Dinkytown
or
whether
they
live
in
a
surrounding
University
of
Minnesota
neighborhood.
This
development
is
going
to
affect
them
as
many
students
walk
around
this
area
go
to
the
businesses.
T
There's
been
some
concerns
about
whether
20
spaces
for
a
grocery
store
is
really
enough.
Are
there
really
going
to
be
no
more
than
20
car
users
going
into
the
grocery
store?
If
that
does
get
put
in
and
then
another
thing
was
the
I
know
this
has
been
brought
before,
but
the
property
being
in
keeping
with
the
historic
district
as
it
is
immediately
adjacent
to
the
historic
district.
T
A
lot
of
buildings
of
this
height
are
not
nearby
they're
a
couple
blocks
away
and
having
a
10
story,
building
right
next
to
a
historic
district
that
is
primarily
comprised
one
or
two
story.
Buildings
would
be
a
bit
of
a
sore
thumb.
It
would
not
be
in
character
with
the
surrounding
neighborhood
another.
One
final
concern
that
a
lot
of
people
have
been
brought
up
is
the
is
with
the
courtyard,
given
that
the
proposed
project
is
a
ten
story.
Building
there
were
some
concerns
that
got
brought
up.
T
It
would
be
important
to
have
a
courtyard
that
is
so
small
with
a
ten
story
building
and
there
not
being
enough
like
getting
into
the
lower
level
units
that
look
out
into
the
courtyard
and
overall
there's
a
lot
being
crammed
into
this
space,
and
so
I
think
that
the
design
in
general
is
not
something
that
is
in
keeping
with
the
community's
asks
and
I
would
urge
the
plank
Commission.
To
consider
that.
Thank.
U
Commissioners,
Devin
to
seven
zero
one
for
Street
southeast
I,
live
across
the
trench
in
Prospect
Park,
so
20
Sarah
right
I'm
here
to
ask
you
guys
to
approve
this
project
and
to
go
against
staff
recommendations
and
the
sort
of
lure
to
area
ratio
of
application
and
a
site
plan
review.
It's
pretty
much
a
pretty
good
project,
everything
you
can
ask
for.
It
has
affordable
unit.
It
has
commercial
space
all
around
it.
It's
in
a
lockable
dance
area.
It
has
bus
enhancements,
also
an
affordable,
crucial
space,
possibly
in
the
future.
U
U
One
thing:
I
forgot,
I,
remember,
I'm,
sorry,
oh,
the
Chateau
is
like
right
near
this
project
and
that's
like
22
stories,
so
I
would
kind
of
dispel
with
the
notion.
Not
ten
stories
is
outside
of
the
neighborhood
character,
because
the
Chateau
is
litter.
You
can
nearly
see
it.
It's
not
far
off
in
the
distance.
It's
literally
right
there
and
the
Marshalls
like
right
there
versus
five.
So
ten
five
twenty-two
it's
pretty
much
all
in
the
same
range.
So
yeah!
That's
that's
the
end
of
my
comment.
So
thank.
A
V
You
have
two
letters
from
our
organization
in
your
packet
and
they
cover
most
of
the
things
that
we've
talked
about,
but
there's
been
a
lot
of
interest
in
this
in
our
community.
We've
had
two
large
open-ended
public
hearings
on
the
public
meetings
on
this.
The
thing
we
heard
most
about
was
affordable
housing
and
the
need
for
some
sort
of
grocery
option.
Dinkytown
has
a
is,
is
a
food
desert
but
at
the
same
time,
as
a
fast
food
away,
sis
which
was
kind
of
a
kind
of
a
paradox
in
itself.
V
We
support
high-density
housing.
We
have
worked
with
developers
to
put
in
quite
a
lot
of
it
in
the
last
ten
years.
I
think
our
current
Minnesota
compass
since
1990
our
population
has
decreased
by
nearly
50
percent,
probably
even
more
than
that
by
the
time
the
2020
census
comes
around,
and
you
know
as
far
as
high-density
housing
goes
bring
it
on,
but
bring
it
on
in
a
way
that
respects
the
process
that
both
the
city
and
we
have
worked
with
to
develop
standards
for
for
new
developments.
V
The
blackened
question
here,
the
plaintiff
2040
top
plan
calls
for
a
six-story
limit
and
with
extraordinary
cases
you
can
go
higher
for
extraordinary
benefits
for
the
community.
But
what
we're
seeing
is
an
extraordinary
benefit
for
the
developer,
but
that's
quite
so
much
for
the
for
the
community.
If
you
have
an
8%
of
the
unit's
885
bedrooms
are
60%
of
the
median
income
that
8%
doesn't
necessarily
justify
a
65%
increase
in
height
or
a
75
increase
in
the
density.
V
The
other
thing
that
we're
concerned
about
is
the
first
Street
southeast
access
I
understand
tonight
has
moved
around
a
bit
from
a
two-lane
or
a
two-way
entrance
and
exit
to
a
one-way.
It
would
still
be
our
strong
preference
to
see
that
on
Fifth
Street
southeast
rather
than
forth,
because
a
somewhat
lighter
traffic
load
there
and
the
lack
of
it
stops.
V
There
would
be
a
smoother
transition
and
a
little
quite
a
lot
less
dangerous
for
for
both
the
bicycle
traffic,
the
transit
lanes
that
go
through
there
and
if
it
could
be
moved
to
50
I,
think
that
would
be
a
big
improvement.
So
that's
what
I
have
I
think
there's
some
other
folks
that
have
items
to
say
about
this
as
well.
Thank.
A
W
Name
is
Cordelia
Pearson
I
live
at
512
South
East
Fifth
Street
at
7th
Street
excuse
me:
I
chose
to
live
here
in
1990
without
a
car
who
came
here
to
law.
School
raised
a
family
here,
graduated
from
the
law
school.
Some
of
my
kids
have
one
of
my
kids
has
graduated
from
EU,
also
so
I've
chosen
to
live
in
our
city
right
in
the
core
and
I
loved
hearing
the
stories
of
people
who've
chosen
to
live
in
our
great
downtown
and
adjacent
neighborhoods.
W
What
I'm
here
to
address
with
you
as
the
board
president
of
Mercy
homes,
when
the
business
district
was
adopted
in
the
small
area
plan,
was
adopted.
It's
a
little
bit
of
that
reference
back.
Why
do
we
have
a
business
district
plan
with
guidelines
that
call
for
six
storeys
being
the
maximum
for
development
in
this
area?
And
why
did
the
comp
plan?
The
2014
new
comp
plan,
incorporate
that
so
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
why
you
have
plans
and
development,
and
this
is
news,
not
news
for
you
but
orderly
development.
W
Let's
say
the
plan
for
sustainable
development
was
a
45
mile,
an
hour,
speed
limit
and
you
want
to
have
more
development.
You
want
to
have
more
affordable
housing,
you
want
to
have
safer
and
you
want
to
have
the
city
addressing
the
climate
crisis.
So,
let's
boost
the
speed
limit
for
the
city
up
to
55.
What
does
that
do
it?
Balances
needs
for
good
air
quality
and
safety,
and
it
also
is
a
reliable
guide
for
any
driver
developer
who
wants
to
develop
in
the
city
55.
You
know
what's
needed,
not
75
miles
an
hour.
W
W
They
dinky
town
growing
with
preservation.
The
business
district
plan
is
part
of
the
current
2040
plan
and
the
sustainable
plan.
Marci
Holmes
is
right.
At
the
junction
between
the
Mississippi
downtown,
the
University,
it's
identified
its
identity
as
a
historic
neighborhood,
and
it
is
the
commercial
node
in
Dinkytown
that
is
closest
to
the
University
historic
area
as
well,
but
the
Greek's
area
and
the
the
knoll.
So
this
area
is
a
historic
business
district.
It's
a
commercial
business
district
historic
district
has
a
distinct
character
of
two
and
two
and
a
half
story
buildings.
W
These
are
all
from
the
business
district
plan
and
what
led
to
that?
It
wasn't
simply
somebody
saying:
oh
I'm
nostalgic
about
Bob
Dylan.
It
was
actually
a
market
study.
Looking
at
the
core
identity
of
Dinkytown.
How
can
we
maintain
the
business
vitality
of
this
area
and
maintain
its
placemaking
qualities?
There
were
people
who
participated
in
this
plan
that
who
had
never
before
participated.
The
city
funded
a
creative
placemaking
process.
We
had
mobile
input
stations.
It
was
a
fabulous
example
of
community
engagement
that
I
think
the
2040
plan,
then
mimicked
followed
and
honored.
W
What
were
some
key
findings
that
this
business
district
serves
many
key
markets
and
that
it
has
a
unique
nostalgia
related
brand
that
strong
development
pressures
were
in
we're
endangering?
We
knew
that
we
wanted
infill
in
this
and
in
this
business
district
and
what
kind
of
infill
the
business
district
set
that
forward
no
more
than
six
storeys,
and
it
then
had
design
characteristics
for
that.
This
is
different
than
the
historic
district
plan
whose
guidelines
have
not
yet
been
adopted.
W
These
business
district
guidelines
are
now
part
of
the
city's
adopted
plans,
so
I
encourage
you
to
follow
the
plans
that
you've
got
why
thousands
of
people
participated
in
this.
The
economic
support
it
and
the
2040
plan
does
say
this
area
is
corridor.
Six
I
encourage
you,
since
you
have
just
the
ink
is
still
drying
on
the
2040
plan,
identifying
this
as
corridor
six.
Think
about
the
impact
of
your
decision
on
small
area
plans.
Citywide.
If
you
at
the
first
instance
decide.
Oh,
we
made
a
mistake.
W
This
actually
should
be
10
stories
that
would
be
transit
10.
What
stops
any
developer
from
any
of
these
small
areas,
saying?
Oh,
the
City
Planning
Commission
seems
to
be
welcoming
more
intense
development
where
actually
this
was
thoughtfully
recommended
at
corridor
six.
So
corridor
six
accommodates
the
adjacent
historic
buildings.
It
accommodates
reasonable
economic
growth
for
this
area
and
it
protects
that
police
making
unique
character
of
this
historic
district,
which
is
right
next
to
the
historic
part
of
the
university.
So
please
be
clear
to
developers
invite
development
that
doesn't
rely
on
endless
variances.
W
You
yourselves
have
said
we
want
to
have
a
built
form
and
land-use
guidance.
That
is
clear.
That
does
not
add
to
the
expensive
development.
By
extending
the
development
process,
we
would
love
to
have,
as
our
neighborhood
President
stated,
we'd
love
to
see
a
development
that
we
can
embrace,
as
we
have
many
we've
embraced,
10-story
developments
in
Marcy
homes
that
have
been
consistent
with
local
plans,
so
we'd
love
to
see
the
Planning
Commission
saying
no
to
the
rezoning
no
to
the
conditional
use
permit
and
the
the
floor
area
ratio
changes.
W
Finally,
as
a
bike
commuter
and
bike
user
I'm
deeply
concerned
about
the
bike
design
on
15th,
Avenue
I
know
that
a
young
woman
was
killed
at
this
intersection.
The
idea
of
having
one
block
that
isn't
a
continuous
bike
facility
that
you're
going
up
onto
the
a
raised
area
and
you'll
be
traveling
between
the
people,
loading,
the
bus
getting
on
and
off
the
buses.
W
I
would
probably
end
up
riding
in
the
street
that
defeats
the
purpose
of
having
a
bike
facility
at
all,
so
be
very
careful
about
representations
that
are
made
about
the
bus
stops
and
bike
lanes
that
have
not
yet
been
finished
and
with
the
landscaping
landscaping
isn't
a
frill.
It
is
how
part
of
how
our
city
will
adopt
part
of
our
how
our
Sayle
will
adapt
in
this
climate
crisis.
So
the
fact
that
the
development
has
zero
of
their
landscaping,
acreage,
trees
and
shrubs
met
in
their
plan
is
not
something
to
overlook
lightly.
W
A
X
My
name
is
Sam
fenders
I'm,
a
resident
of
the
Marcy
homes
neighborhood
only
about
six
zero,
six,
seventh
Street
southeast
and
I'm
here,
because
I
support
this
mixed-use
apartment
building
and
Nikki
town
death
McDonald
site
we're,
notably
nobody
currently
lives
on
this
side.
I
support
the
floor
area
ratio,
variance,
I,
support,
rezoning
and
I
support
the
parking
variance.
X
As
someone
who
graduated
from
the
U
this
year,
I
experienced
the
difficulty
in
finding
housing
as
a
student
undergraduate
enrollment
at
the
U
is
up
1,400
students
from
10
years
ago,
and
there
are
just
not
enough
places
to
live.
It's
simple:
we
cannot
house
more
people
if
we
don't
allow
the
new
residences
to
be
built.
This
location
at
4th,
Street
and
15th
Avenue
southeast
is
the
perfect
location
for
housing
and
retail
due
to
its
close
proximity
to
the
U
bus
routes
and
bike
lanes.
X
First
of
all,
I
want
to
emphasize
that
nobody
currently
lives
on
these
Lots.
They
are
currently
used
for
car
storage
and
a
drive-through.
Nobody
will
be
displaced
from
their
homes
by
building
this
currently
about
30%
of
u.s.
greenhouse
gas
emissions
come
from
transportation,
but
this
project
will
allow
a
thousand
people
nearly
to
live
car
free
or
a
car
light
lifestyle.
In
a
walkable
area,
the
University
is
adjacent
to
the
site,
so
residents
can
easily
walk
to
school
and
work.
People
will
also
bike
using
the
bike
infrastructure.
X
Next,
this
building
knows
just
upgraded
on
15th
Avenue
of
4th
Street,
University
and
5th
Street
last
summer.
This
project
further
enhances
bike
and
pedestrian
safety
by
removing
a
dangerous,
drive-through
and
driveways.
In
addition,
this
look
is
perfect
for
a
10-story
building,
because
there
are
six
different
bus
lines
within
two
blocks
routes:
two
three
and
six,
as
well
as
the
university
fourth
Street
circulator
buses
all
stop
at
this
building
and
the
University
Avenue
circulator
and
campus
connector
buses
stop
within
two
blocks.
In
the
future.
The
rapid
transit,
a
bus
line
will
literally
stop
here.
X
A
Y
Y
Through
the
meetings
that
led
up
to
this
hearing,
we
were
very
thrilled
with
the
number
of
students
that
showed
up
at
neighborhood
events
to
talk
about
this
project,
and
the
message
was
loud
and
clear
that
they
wanted
a
grocery
store
and
they
wanted
affordability.
Those
were
clear
things
we're
not
seeing
the
community
benefits
of
either
of
those.
So
throughout
the
process
the
developer
led
us
on
that
they
were
working
to
try
to
locate
a
grocery
store,
yet
the
design
of
the
building
didn't
even
fit
with
the
grocery
store.
Y
I've
participated
in
affordable
housing,
conversations
with
University
of
Minnesota
students
and
an
event
that
Steve
Fletcher
put
together
and
student
affordability
$450
and
not
for
the
hundred
cubic
feet
above
their
bed
but
actual
living
space.
So
this
unit
is
this
project
is
predicated
on
renting
units
by
the
bed
to
students
so
achieving
the
Ford
ability
by
crabbing
what
ten
students
into
a
five
bedroom
unit
and
like
sardines
and
a
that's,
not
questionably.
That's
not
even
housing.
Y
It's
a
bed,
eight
percent
of
the
units
at
60%
of
ami
that's
affordable
to
the
students
that
are
in
$42,000
a
year.
What
about
the
98
percent
of
the
units,
the
92
percent
that
aren't
at
60%
of
ami?
Those
are
units
intended
for
the
students
that
earn
more
than
$42,000
a
year.
This
isn't
family
housing.
This
is
student
housing,
but
it's
clearly
going
to
be
marketed
to
students,
a
project
on
the
site
of
six
storeys
I,
like
the
idea
of
two
and
a
half
stories,
two
stories
in
the
entire
block
that
that's
that's
intriguing.
Y
But
if
we're
going
to
do
housing
on
this
block,
this
close
to
the
university,
it
should
be
affordable
to
university
students
without
the
inner
courtyard
they
could
probably
get
close
to
the
number
of
units
into
a
six
story,
building
I
think
in
the
end,
what
the
city
should
be
doing
is
working
with
the
University
of
Minnesota
can
encourage
the
university
cajole,
the
university
embarrassed,
the
university
to
getting
involved
in
student,
housing
and-
and
you
know,
maybe
maybe
actually
come
to
a
long
term
solution
that
could
provide
affordable
student
housing
in
the
area.
Thank
you.
A
Z
Hi,
my
name
I'm
gonna,
let
this
little
hi,
my
name
is
Rebecca
Cowen
I
live
at
6:33,
Ontario
and
I'm.
Also,
the
local
government
coordinator
for
the
Minnesota
Student
Association
I
just
wanted
to
add
a
little
bit
of
context
of
how
students
were
involved
in
that
process,
because
it
has
been
brought
up
a
few
different
times.
Z
I
originally
heard
about
this
project
over
the
summer
around
June
or
July,
and
it
was
councilmember
Fletcher
that
helped
connect
MSA
with
the
developers
so
that
we
could
have
start
having
these
meetings
at
the
very
beginning,
I
saw
the
initial
plans
for
the
project,
probably
around
late
July
early,
so
we
had
started
having
these
conversations
about
what
students
needed
and
what
students
wanted
from
these
buildings.
Some
of
the
main
concerns
are
affordability,
sustainability
and
at
the
grocery
store
within
the
building.
As
has
been
discussed
before,
on
the
affordability
front
that
took
a
little
bit
longer.
Z
We
also
had
numerous
students
at
all
of
the
Marcy
Holmes
meetings
and
the
developer
took
steps
to
actually
host
a
forum
on
campus
directly
with
students,
which
I
think
was
a
good
model
proposing
that
if
these
developers
want
to
work
with
the
university
and
that
kind
of
demographic,
they
should
engage
that
population.
Specifically
on
the
sustainability
front,
it
is
a
very
dense
building
near
public
transit
and
as
we've
discussed
before,
that
is
one
of
the
best
ways
to
reduce
a
lot
of
our
emissions.
If
we're
not
traveling.
Z
Quite
as
far
as
campus,
we
can
take
transit
to
work
if
the
Uihlein
gets
developed
there.
That
could
take
you
all
the
way
down
to
some
of
the
suburbs,
so
students
can
get
all
the
way
home
and
still
live
near
campus.
Things
like
that
and
the
grocery
store
front.
This
was
proposed
from
my
understanding.
Z
The
developers
did
take
efforts
to
have
those
conversations
with
some
of
the
grocery
stores
and
it
wasn't
quite
feasible
within
where
the
projects
that
we
have
heard
some
concerns
about
the
bulk
of
the
building
and,
as
was
mentioned
by
the
staff,
it
is
kind
of
towering
and
does
take
up
the
entire
block
at
that
ten
story
level.
So
we
have
heard
those
concerns
and
we've
had
concerns
about
the
continuity
of
the
businesses
that
are
currently
there.
Z
I
know
a
lot
of
the
Asian
cultural
student
associations
are
very
connected
to
pagoda,
which
is
currently
on
that
lot.
There's
a
lot
of
business
at
McDonald's
and
the
liquor
store,
that
is
on
the
corner
within
students,
those
are
very
popular
locations,
so
we've
heard
both
sides
overall
MSA
is
not
in
a
place
to
give
a
firm
stance,
we're
here
to
relay
what
we've
heard
from
students
on
both
sides.
So
we
just
want
to
make
sure
you
understand
where
we've
been
out
with
that
and
the
conversations
I've
been
hearing
throughout
that
process.
Z
AA
Hi
there,
my
name
is
Dave
moon
quest
I'm
at
224.
Third
Avenue
Northeast
I
do
not
currently
live
in
Marcy
homes,
but
I
did
live
there
during
college
I'm.
Still
on
the
east
side
of
the
river
and
Idriss
relief.
You
know
recently
the
city
came
out
and
you
know
declared
that
we
are
in
a
climate
emergency.
We
need
more
housing
in
a
dense
area
connected
to
transit
and
in
addition
to
that,
we
are
also
at
a
housing
shortage
and
we
need
to
build
more
homes.
AA
There
are
no
homes
on
this
site,
currently
there's
a
drive-through
that
would
be
replaced
with
people
who
are
able
to
live
in
an
urban
area
and
near
campus,
able
to
get
to
the
places
that
they
need
to
get
to.
This
is
a
just
a
really
good
location
to
have
housing
in
our
city,
so
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
consider
approving
this
building.
Thank
you
thank.
AB
AB
These
are
excerpts
from
the
actual
guidelines
in
the
small
area
plan
and
to
mention
briefly,
the
800
D
you
highest
density
provision
that
Lindsay
mentioned
does
specifically
reference
a
compatibility
with
a
small
area
plans
that
was
in
that
compatibility,
so
I
won't
discuss
those
in
any
great
detail,
except
to
say
that,
with
reference
to
the
considerations
in
the
design
guidelines,
the
small
area
plan
applies
to
the
full
four
blocks,
not
just
the
parameter.
Parameters
of
the
historic
district
applies
to
the
full
four
blocks.
AB
At
the
Dinkytown
commercial
district,
which
is
the
oldest
one
of
the
oldest
districts
in
the
Twin
Cities,
it
was
the
site
of
the
first
horse
barns
for
the
trolleys
and,
in
fact,
did
have
streetcars
through
1954
the
this
plan.
This
guidance
specifically
addresses
new
in
infill
development
and
how
the
guidance
should
be
used
in
reviewing
development
proposals,
including
the
following,
and
these
are
site
citations
ensure
that
new
development
within
the
activity
center
is
designed
in
a
way
that
is
compatible
with
and
contributes
to
the
area's
unique
character.
AB
AB
Centers
new
development
should
both
respond
to
and
support
the
unique
character
of
the
Dinkytown
area
the
so
these
these
are
all
provisions
in
the
existing
guidelines
and
although
the
district
boundaries
have
excluded
buildings
built
after
1930,
the
historic
district
study
actually
recommended
the
entire
inside
of
the
four
blocks
to
be
part
of
the
historic
district
and
so
I
think
it
is
fair
to
consider
them
as
consider
the
whole
commercial
district
as
an
historic
resource
for
the
city.
I
also
have
provided
I
think
in
an
email.
AB
Some
policy
statements
from
the
2040
plan
that
recognized
that
quote,
recognize
and
promote
the
value
of
the
built
environment
and
landscape
as
an
asset
that
enhances
community
identity
in
a
sense
of
place,
including
policy
60,
intrinsic
value
of
properties,
public
policy,
94
heritage
policy,
regulation
that
protects
historic
resources
and
requires
new
construction
to
be
compatible
policy,
96
cultural
heritage
and
preservation.
Recognition
which
acknowledges
preservation
and
cultural
place.
AB
AB
Illustration
that
is
attached
to
the
front-
and
it
reads
this-
is
from
Minneapolis
the
a
section
on
Minneapolis,
neighborhoods,
Dinkytown,
I'm,
sorry,
downtown,
uptown,
Dinkytown
I
think
this
means
that
the
city
recognizes
the
special
character
of
Dinkytown
and
its
role
in
the
city
as
one
of
them
Minneapolis
is
great
places
now.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
A
AC
Chris
Myers
six
r16
Street
southeast
I've
lived
in
the
Marcy
homes
neighborhood
for
about
the
last
decade,
and
I
would
really
like
to
see
this
site
redeveloped,
mostly
because
of
what
it
would
take
away
and
I
would
take
away
the
surface
parking
lot.
The
drive-thru
and
three
out
of
the
four
curb
cuts
that
are
on
that
half
of
the
block
and
those
would
all
be
significant
improvements
along
with
the
plaza
the
broader
sidewalks
and
other
things
about
a
project,
would
build.
AC
It
would
help
enable
more
students
to
live
close
to
campus
and
not
just
students,
but
people
working
at
the
university
or
downtown
or
elsewhere
to
live
close
to
where
they
live
or
work,
artists,
work
or
study
instead
of
having
to
commute
in
from
the
suburbs,
and
it
would
mean
a
much
greater
tax
base
for
the
city
and
they'd
be
paying
taxes
to
our
parks
into
our
schools.
Both
the
property
and
sales
taxes,
instead
of
out
to
the
suburbs,
so
I
feel
those
are
all
great
things.
AC
So
I'd
like
to
see
something
at
this
site
and
I
just
believe
that,
because
McDonald's
has
a
grandfather
didn't
drive
through
there,
it's
going
to
be
very
difficult
for
a
project
with
majestic
stories
to
be
able
to
raise
the
funds
that
they
would
need
to
pay
off
McDonald's
so
somehow
or
other
I
hope
that
you
will
come
up
with
something
that
will
make
that
work.
I
also
believe
that
this
is
the
first
time
that
students
have
been
really
engaged
as
long
as
I've
I've
been
involved.
AC
I
have
never
previously
been
to
a
board
meeting
where
students
were
the
majority
of
the
people
in
the
room,
but
that
happened
at
one
of
the
meetings
that
the
Varsity
homes
neighborhood
hosted
on
this
for
the
one
of
their
land-use
meetings.
So
I
really
feel
that
we
should
defer
to
the
students
who
haven't
been
previously
involved.
I,
don't
think
they
were
really
involved
in
the
crafting
of
the
2040
plan.
AC
A
AD
AD
Never
again
would
we
have
a
developer
say
a
lattice
asking
for
receiving
the
approval
to
build
a
42
storey
tower
on
a
lot
within
the
Saint
Anthony
Falls
stark
district
zone
for
four
stories.
The
2040
plan
has
only
just
been
adopted
and
already
developer
wants
something
they
aren't
entitled
to.
If
you
don't
deny
this
proposal,
you
will
be
sending
a
message
to
developers.
That's
2040
plan
need
not
be
taken
seriously.
Thank
you.
A
AE
A
AE
The
Loring
bar
and
restaurant,
formerly
Loring
pasta
bar
I've,
been
employed
there,
but
I
was
employed
there
by
the
previous
owner.
So
I've
been
there
a
long
time.
I
wanted
to
begin
by
thanking
Ryan
and
SIA
ventures.
They've
engaged
more
than
any
other
developer
in
our
neighborhood
I
was
very
involved
with
the
processes
that
led
up
to
the
Marshall
and
to
the
venue.
I
know
people
that
manage
these
buildings
and
now
as
a
building
owner
and
I,
also
run
my
business
I've
gotten
very
involved
with
the
Dinkytown
business
group.
AE
As
was
stated
at
the
beginning
by
Ryan,
the
business
group
did
turn
in
a
boat
and
our
boat
was
in
favor
of
the
development.
The
votes,
however,
are
the
way
they're
cast.
I
want
to
share
with
you.
It
was
fifty
seven
percent
in
favor
and
thirty
three
percent
opposed
and
the
remaining
percentage
was
either
it
was
AB
staining.
We
just
finished
that
yesterday
and
a
lot
of
time
was
put
into
it,
including
from
Ryan
from
Marcy
homes.
We've
all
talked
a
lot
and
I've
attended
a
lot
of
Marcy
homes.
Meetings.
AE
I
was
very
involved
with
a
small
area
plan
and
I
sat
on
a
committee
for
that,
and
then
my
point
in
speaking,
is
that
I
have
decided
after
much
thinking
that
I
am
not
in
favor
of
the
development,
so
I
am
speaking
out
not
as
the
DBA
member
that
I
am
and
I
am
also
on
the
Special
Service
District,
Board
and
I
am
also
on
the
Dinkytown
board.
I
am
in
the
minority.
I
chose
to
speak
up
because
I
care
very
much
for
the
area
and
I
care
very
much
for
the
aesthetics
of
it.
AE
I
also
read.
It
had
caused
me
to
read
a
lot
about
the
2040
plan
and
which
I
did
this
last
week
and
I
I
have
decided
after
much
much
much
consideration
that
I
prefer
to
stick
with
a
2040
plan.
I
feel
that
the
benefits
that
are
being
offered
to
us
do
not
justify
the
increase
in
height.
I
have
concerns
about
the
height
the
parking
and,
of
course,
some
of
the
other
issues
that
have
been
mentioned.
That
I
won't
go
into
again
and
again.
AE
One
of
my
biggest
concerns
would
be
the
aesthetics
considering
the
property
that
I
own.
You
probably
understand,
but
we
also
know
it's
a
bit
of
a
gateway
into
dinky,
town
and
I
do
believe
in
density,
I
would
vote
for
a
six-story
building,
so
I
I
do
think
the
developers
I
think
they
put
a
lot
into
it
and
I
do
feel
stronger
than
I
must
stick
to
the
to
the
plan,
which
is
six
storeys.
Thank
you
very.
AF
My
name
is
Bill
hunter
I
live
at
4:15,
eighth
Street,
southeast
and
Marcy
Hills
neighborhood
I
wrote
a
book
on
Dinkytown
and
I
think
the
thing
that
pinky
town
has
going
for
it
is
the
street
life
and
a
sense
of
community
and
a
small
scale.
I
think
this
development
on
15th
Avenue
is
more
like
a
wall
than
an
openness
now
I
admit
that
asphalt
parking
lot
isn't
the
best
use
of
land,
but
we
should
do
something
more
than
just
a
Plaza
next
to
McDonald's.
AF
In
order
to
engage
the
community
more
the
bus
stop
on
4th
Street
as
they
have
designed
it
add
steps
I,
don't
know
why
we
need
steps
off
of
4th
Street
into
the
building
and
I
think
there
are
some
other
issues
right
as
a
part
of
the
bicycle
lane
have
to
do
an
elbow
coming
up.
15Th
Avenue
I'm
told
that
that's
the
busiest
bicycle
intersection
in
the
state,
one
of
the
busiest
at
least,
and
it
should
be
friendly
to
bicycles,
and
there
should
be
continuity
of
15th,
Avenue
and
I'm,
not
sure
that's
all
worked
out
yet.
AF
A
B
Good
evening,
president
Rockwell
and
commissioners,
my
name
is
Ted
3:19
fifth
Street
southeast
this
evening
you
heard
about
not
shifting
standards,
but
the
old
standards
from
the
plan
for
sustainable
growth
and
the
2040.
But,
as
you
know,
the
dinky
town
area
has
been
designated
as
a
pedestrian
overlay
district
for
a
long
time.
Those
standards
apply
this
month
and
next
month
and
I
urge
you
to
think
about.
If
this
project
is
sufficiently
pedestrian
friendly,
there
were
four
issues
covered
in
the
staff
report.
B
Curb
cuts,
fewer
is
better,
that's
been
mentioned,
but
the
one
that
was
added
was
one
on
4th
Street,
which
I
think
is
particularly
dangerous.
I'm
glad
to
see
it
modified
to
being
just
one
way
in
if
I
understand
that
correctly
it'd
be
better
to
be
eliminated
and
have
that
traffic
come
off
of
fifth
I.
B
This
is
not
up
to
up
to
standards
fast
food,
not
too
much
even
talked
about
that
eliminating
the
drive-through
is
a
big
plus
for
a
pedestrian
overlay
district
and
thank
you
to
the
Commission
was
at
about
a
year
ago,
when
you
turn
down
the
expansion
which
may
have
led
to
this
current
proposal,
but
reestablishing
it.
A
fast-food
in
this
project
would
not
meet
the
pedestrian
overlay
standards
as
already
established,
and
finally,
the
15th
Avenue
facade,
I'm
sure
you've
looked
at
that
and
it's
hovers
over
the
sidewalk
there
without
sufficient
setbacks
at
whatever
height.
B
A
AG
Confident
Rockwell
commissioners,
my
name
is
Barbra
cam
I
live
at
423,
seventh
Street
southeast
the
corner
of
15th
and
Avenue,
and
4th
Street
is
a
gateway
to
that
small,
unique
area
that
is
dinky
town.
It
has
been
a
mixed
use
area,
a
commercial
area
for
many
years,
and
it's
appropriate
for
new
development.
At
this
point,
for
the
various
reasons
that
have
been
brought
up,
the
staff
report
states
that
the
ten
stories
proposed
by
the
developer
fits
in
with
the
six
story:
buildings
in
the
area.
AG
From
Mariucci
Arena
walking
west,
you
see
the
tennis,
the
tennis
building
about
five
stories,
the
Keeler
building,
which
used
to
be
an
Episcopal
Center.
That's
six
stories,
the
Sidney
and
that
six
stories
the
ramp
about
five
stories.
Maybe
six
and
then
you
walk
up
to
the
bridge
to
the
very
top
of
the
bridge,
and
there
are
those
small
one
and
two-story,
maybe
some
three-story
buildings
that
make
that
area.
So
special,
the
ten
story.
Building
on
the
corner
is
not
going
to
work
in
that
area.
AG
It
does
create
a
wall,
it
does
create
a
barrier
it
is.
It
doesn't
create
the
pedestrian,
friendly
atmosphere
and
looking
over
to
the
to
the
brutalist
structure,
that
is
the
Chateau
that's
way
over
and
actually
that
doesn't
really
we're
so
used
to
it.
Now
it
doesn't
seem
like
very
much
of
an
eyesore,
even
though
at
the
time
everybody
said
never
again,
but
that
this
there
there
are
many
other
options
for
that
area,
and
we
really
believe
that
you
should.
AG
Tape
to
the
2040
plan,
that's
going
to
be
approved
now.
One
of
the
benefits
has
been
mentioned
by
the
developer
is
a
Plaza
and
actually
that
Plaza,
along
with
the
bridge,
is
part
of
the
historic
district.
So
that
really
isn't
a
benefit
doing
anything
with
that
Plaza
I
would
appreciate
if
you
can
really
consider
what
people
have
said
with
regard
to
thinking
about
other
options
for
that
site
and
not
approving
this
project.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
C
C
My
main
question
or
concern
is
that
the
that
cycle
track
does
not
come
back
to
the
roadway
lanes
once
it
hits.
Fourth
Street
which
separates
the
traveling
bicyclist
from
the
traveling
vehicles
by
a
pretty
slight
margin
and
I'm.
Just
wondering
is:
is
there
a
lot
more
detail
to
work
through
on
this,
or
is
that
where
public
works
wants
it
yeah.
I
We
had
multiple
meetings
with
Public,
Works
and
Metro
Transit
about
the
project.
There's
a
lot
of
transportation,
questions
that
are
still
hanging
around
out
here.
There's
a
protected
bike
way
proposed
for
4th
Street,
that's
going
to
be
probably
in
place
by
the
time
that
the
project
would
be
constructed.
I
My
understanding
is
that
the
the
bike
lane
will
be
lined
up
to
flow
from
the
existing
bike
infrastructure,
which
is
a
non
street,
protected
bike
way
up
onto
the
sidewalk
and
then
back
into
that
infrastructure
seamlessly.
So
some
of
that
is
accommodated
by
extending
that
bus.
That's
more
like
a
floating
bus,
stop
there,
where
the
actual
bus
stop
is
pushed
out
into
what
would
probably
now
be
the
buffer
for
the
bike
lane
and
by
kind
of
manipulating
the
public
right-of-way.
I
In
that
way,
the
hope
is
to
have
enough
space
for
pedestrians,
bikes
and
transit
to
operate
all
with
the
fewest
number
of
conflicts.
But,
yes,
they
will
be
continuing
to
work
with
Public,
Works
and
transportation,
planning
and
programming.
That
I
know
is,
you
know,
still
learning
about
these
types
of
floating
bus
stops
in
other
projects
around
the
city.
H
AH
AH
They
look
to
me
like
the
amenities
that
many
developers
are
just
providing
with
regular
apartment
buildings.
You
know
a
bike
lane
landscaping
things
like
this.
A
lot
of
developers
are
just
offering
that
and
not
using
them
as
selling
points
for
something
that
is
this
big
of
a
deviation
from
the
space
or,
what's
allowed
by
the
zoning,
now
I'm
disappointed
that
we've
had
a
couple
at
least
two
times.
AH
We've
seen
this
a
committee
of
the
whole
and
here
and
that
we
haven't
heard
from
anybody
in
long-range
planning
about
what
the
guidance
should
be
for
this
I
think
we
have
an
opportunity
and
an
obligation
at
this
point
in
time
to
look
forward
to
the
2040
plan
and
the
effort
that
was
put
into
the
land
use
and
built
form
Maps,
which
could
not
be
more
clear
about
what
should
happen
at
this
site
which,
as
I,
have
said
many
times.
It's
not.
AH
AH
This
is
coming
in
right
under
the
wire
and
I
am
stand
it
and
I
get
it.
I,
don't
have
a
problem
with
a
six-story
plan
here,
I,
don't
think
this
building
offers
anything
other
than
you
know
apartments
in
an
area
where
there's
a
lot
of
apartments.
This
could
be
done
much
better,
but
I
just
can't
get
behind
this
and
I'll
jump
ahead
to
the
parking
variance
thing
before
we
get
to
it
and
just
say
also
that
it's
another
example
of
the
university
overlay
parking
variance
without
sufficient
legal
justification.
AH
This
time,
what's
being
offered
is
the
justification
is
that
the
practical
difficulty
is
that
the
public
transit
is
good
in
the
area,
which
is
not
a
difficulty
or
an
impediment
to
a
developer,
complying
with
the
ordinance
it's
kind
of
a
bonus
or
a
benefit
which
is
great,
but
it
shouldn't
be
used
as
a
legal
justification
for
a
variance
that
requires
practical
difficulties,
unique
to
it
to
a
piece
of
property.
So
I
may
speak
again
about
more
other
specific
things,
but
that's
what
I
have
for
now
and
I
won't
be
supporting
the
motion
very.
H
Know
I'll
just
speak
to
my
motion
briefly
and
I
agree
with
Commissioner
Sweezey
on
the
rezoning,
--zz
I
think
that's
pretty
straightforward
that
in
an
activity
center
like
this,
that's
adjacent
to
a
growth
center
or
a
major
employer
at
c3,
a
zoning,
the
activity
center
district
is
appropriate.
As
for
the
conditional
use,
permit,
I
do
think
the
arguments
are
outlined
well
in
the
staff
report.
I,
don't
think
a
10-story
building
at
this
location
will
endanger
Public
Health
and
Safety.
H
It's
a
location
in
the
city
that
has
has
a
lot
of
activity
and
intensity
already
is
well
served
by
traffic.
There's
the
project
provides
parking.
The
enhanced
by
bike
facilities
and
has
transit
facilities
are
certain,
certainly
significant
benefits,
so
I
think
when
it
comes
to
criteria
number
four
minimizing
traffic
congestion,
addressing
congestion,
I
I
think
this
project
does
that.
AI
Mr.
Schrader
I
think
you
just
want
to
agree
with
them.
Many
of
the
points
raised
by
Commissioner,
Sweezey
I
will
be
supporting
mr.
Brown's
motion
on
this,
but
I
have
issues
with
some
of
the
other
ones.
I
agree
with
kind
of
staff's
assessment
of
them
did
one
offer
some
guidance
on.
You
know
when
we
talk
about
what
what
me
is
needed
to
go
above
and
beyond
20:44
myself,
and
you
know,
I'll
just
speak
for
myself
and
I
know,
but
I
know.
AI
You
know
unaffordability
I,
that's
off
to
the
developer
for
offering
a
four
bill
we
wouldn't
you
didn't
have
to,
but
that's
that
I
think
we're
looking
for
more
than
just
you
know,
eight
percent
at
68%
units
for
60%
ami
more,
would
be
going
more
more
units
or
making
them
more
affordable
or
some
combination
of
their
their
of
transportation.
I
thought
Commissioner
Suzy
did
a
good
good
assessment.
AI
It's
you
already
have
great
transit
there,
so
I
think
it
would
be
hard
to
think
of
improvements,
but
of
course,
city
would
be
very
much
open
to
that
and
on
the
environment.
I
think
it's.
It
especially
wanted
to
talk
about
this
development.
Like
we've
heard
it
talked
about
a
couple
times
of
well
we're
gonna
be
creating
more
density
in
an
area
that
it's
for
I
want
to
make
a
distinction
of
being
in
a
climate
emergency,
we're
asking
for
more
than
that.
AI
So
having
an
area
that
is
having
development
is
going
to
take
up
the
entire
block.
You
know
what
is
your
stormwater
management?
What
is
your
soil?
What
is
like,
you
can
really
much
take
every
single
part
of
the
development
and
there
there's
a
part
that
there
is
room
for
improvement
and
to
be
more
environmentally
conscious,
and
so
that's
that's.
What
we're
looking
for
and
when
we're
going
more
2040
has
made
a
development
more
possible
throughout
the
entire
city.
AI
O
Want
to
say
that
there's
a
lot
of
moving
parts
here
and
part
of
that
is
caused
by
the
fact,
the
timing
of
this
and
the
choice
of
the
timing,
to
bring
this
forward
right
now
and
while
I
am
am
sympathetic
with
the
efforts
that
the
developer
has
made
to
reaching
out
to
the
community
and
some
of
the
offerings
and
changes
that
have
been
made
in
response
to
that.
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
feel
like
the
Planning
Commission
is
being
put
in
a
very
difficult
situation.
O
Having
this
come
before
us
right
now
and
I,
don't
think
that
needs
to
be
happening.
I
think
it's
kind
of
strange
that
we
are
going
to
be
voting
on
something
that
has
a
foot
in
two
worlds,
when
waiting
a
month
would
clear
that
up
and
you're
not
doing
any
development
now
so
I
just
want
to
express
my
frustration
at
the
timing
of
this.
A
O
AA
F
AJ
F
AJ
AJ
A
H
All
right,
I
will
speak
to
that
night.
I
am
my
motion,
does
contradict
staff
recommendation,
so
I'll
outline
some
of
my
reasoning
for
that
I.
Think
again,
as
I
mentioned
in
my
previous
statement,
this
site
is
in
an
activity
center,
it's
adjacent
to
a
growth
center,
an
employment
center.
The
Minneapolis
plan
for
sustainable
growth
calls
for
up
to
800
units
per
acre
in
a
location
like
this.
This
project
has
a
density
of
227
units
breaker,
so
I
think
this
is
an
instance
where
the
zoning
code
itself
provides
somewhat
of
a
hardship.
H
H
It
in
addition
to
that,
having
a
building
that
is
taller
than
six
storeys
at
this
location,
which
is
a
very
prominent
location,
it
served
well
by
transit,
will
create
for
a
more
sustainable
environment
in
the
long
term.
Having
a
concrete
and
steel
building
I
think
is
more
sustainable
and
I.
Think
by
granting
this
variance,
it
will
result
in
in
a
better
project.
O
A
AJ
A
O
A
F
N
H
AJ
N
AJ
A
A
F
N
A
H
I'll
just
add,
I
had
obviously
supported
the
FA.
Our
variance
so
I
think
I
would
believe
that
approval
of
this
site
plan
would
be
appropriate,
but
given
that
the
Commission
voted
to
deny
that
variance,
I
believe
that
is
a
pretty
the
density
provided
here
is
a
pretty
critical
component
of
that
site
plan.
So
I
will
move
denial
very.
A
A
There
is
clear
language
in
the
plan
that
allows
for
greater
height
I
think
that
there
are
major
priorities
of
the
city
which
include
affordability,
which
is
here
and
sustainability,
which
are
two
core
components
which
you
can
read
through
the
majority
of
the
policies
in
the
2040.
You
plan
and
I
think
that
to
ask
for
some
increase
in
density,
one
could
check
off
one
of
those
boxes,
but
they
ask
for
substantial
increase
in
density.
AJ
A
AK
AK
AK
As
we
discussed
at
kau
in
November
when
the
US
Bank
Stadium
was
under
construction,
it
was
not
subject
to
zoning
code
regulations.
This
brought
up
a
possible
equity
issue
based
on
signage
constructed
based
on
those
cau
discussions.
Staff
has
updated
the
proposed
amendment
to
require
sign
credits
for
any
expansion
or
digital
conversion
other
than
that.
There
are
no
new
updates
regarding
this
amendment
and
with
that
staff
recommends
approval
of
the
zoning
code
text,
amendment
for
chapter
544,
off-premise,
advertising
signs
and
billboards
all
be
here
for
questions.
A
C
AK
A
P
Good
evening,
chair,
Planning
Commission,
My
name
is
Matthew
Island
I'm,
with
Clear
Channel
Outdoor.
Our
offices
are
located
at
3
2
to
5,
Spring,
Street
and
northeast,
certainly
here
to
speak
in
support
of
the
ordinance
amendment
just
want
to
add
some
brief
context
in
history
to
go
along
with
that.
Specifically,
what
we're
requesting
is
the
conversion
of
two
existing
signs
in
that
corner
to
digital
signs
at
exactly
the
same
size
and
height
when
this
project
failed
to
move
forward
when
the
ordinance
failed
them
afford.
P
Last
time
we
went
back
to
column
or
Sami,
whose
Ward
this
is
and
asked
him
what
we
needed
to
do
to
reintroduce
us.
He
requested
that
we
meet
with
the
neighborhoods
and
get
their
support,
as
well
as
the
other
council
members
in
the
area.
So
that's
exactly
what
we
did.
We
did
meet
with
the
demon,
a
who
represents
the
area
around
the
stadium
and
with
the
Elliot
Park
on
the
neighborhood,
where
these
signs
are
located
and
what
we
specifically
got.
P
Support
from
them
to
do
was
to
digitally
was
to
convert
these
signs
to
digital
that
face
to
stadium
at
the
same
size
in
height,
and
that's
all
we're
requesting
to
do.
We
do
believe
this
is
the
right
location
for
digital
signage.
It's
an
updated
look.
This
is
an
entertainment
area,
we
believe
our
signs
add
vibrancy
and
energy
to
entertainment
areas
as
they've
done
in
downtown
Minneapolis
around
Target
Center
I'm,
where
we
have
digital
billboards
as
well
as
a
Hennepin
theater
district.
The
other
thing
are
digital
billboards.
Allow
us
to
do
is
expand
our
commitment.
P
P
P
We've
also
just
recently
entered
into
a
timely
partnership
with
Hennepin
County
to
address
homelessness
in
the
wintertime
which
is
going
to
start
tomorrow.
Unfortunately,
because
of
the
harsh
conditions
we
partnered
with
them,
that
wind
conditions
reached
certain
temperatures,
we
provide
information
that
direct
homeless
to
the
resources
they
need
to
get
off
the
streets
because
it
is
I'm
dangerous
to
be
outside.
These
are
just
some
copies
are
creative
that
we're
running
for
them.
P
We
also
partner
with
nonprofits
in
the
community,
we're
in
and
provide
them
messaging
in
our
signs.
For
instance,
this
summer
we
partnered
with
LA
Park
to
sponsor
artpop,
which
is
a
was
a
neighborhood
block
party
they
had
in
the
area
also
downtown.
There
summer
we
sponsored
an
advertise
for
doors
open
which
invited
the
public
downtown
to
visit
buildings,
and
we've
also
sponsored
open
streets
in
the
in
the
past.
To
get
the
word
out
about
the
street
celebrations.
P
We
partnered
with
Hennepin
County
Sheriff
on
any
messaging.
They
want
with
currently
running
messaging,
on
being
safe
on
the
ice
of
course
stuff
with
back-to-school
and
so
forth.
We
do
a
lot
with
law
enforcement,
whatever
they
ask,
but
we're
really
helpful
is
on
Amber
Alerts
and
future's.
Most
Wanted
and
especially
anything
emergency
management.
Laded
such
as
location
across
from
the
stadium,
is
important
location
for
that
then.
P
Finally,
the
other
thing
we've
done
recently
is
we
partnered
phantom
County
on
emergency
weather
warning
another
way
to
get
that
important
messaging
out.
A
lot
of
people
in
their
cars
now
aren't
listening
to
their
radios,
so
this
is
another
way
to
get
the
information
home.
So,
of
course,
the
more
locations
we
have
the
more
effective
this
stuff
can
be,
but
we
do
feel
it's
right
location
we're
certainly
thankful
for
the
other
locations
we
have
in
the
city,
and
thank
you
for
your
consideration
to
this
proposal.
AL
My
name
is
random
Anthea
at
103rd
Avenue
South
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
downtown
Minneapolis
Neighborhood
Association
Land
Use
Committee
I
just
want
to
clarify
a
few
things
and
ask
a
few
questions.
For
starters,
the
dma
wrote
a
letter
on
the
9th
or
excuse
me
the
13th
of
June
in
2008.
This
issue
has
been
around
for
a
couple
of
years
now
trying
to
find
a
solution.
AL
However,
there
is
a
real
reluctance
on
the
part
of
the
DMA
board
to
go
beyond
the
scope
of
the
current
boundary,
we're
afraid
of
boundary
creep
over
time,
because
there's
billboards
on
the
other
side
of
the
stadium.
So
when
did
the
ask
stop
on
this?
How
do
we
hold
the
line
and
protect
the
surrounding
areas?
AL
Signs
in
this
area
to
be
larger,
I,
repeat,
larger
digital
signs
in
this
Canadian
negatively
impact
adjacent
housing,
although
staff
does
not
anticipate
significant
adverse
effects,
if
the
district
is
expanded,
the
applicant
just
said
to
you
that
they
are
willing
to
keep
the
signs
in
the
same
location
and
at
the
same
size.
So
I
would
like
clarification
on
that
matter.
AL
If
the
Commission
needs
to
condition
this
particular
approval
on
those
signs
becoming
or
remaining
the
same
size,
that
would
be
much
appreciated
to
turn
this
over
carte
blanche
to
any
previous
and
again,
as
you
know,
the
sign
ordinances
are
extremely
long
and
very
complicated,
and
we
don't
have
the
capacity
as
a
Neighborhood
Association
to
decipher
these
things,
let
alone
anybody
else
in
this
city
on
some
days.
So
it's
just
like
clarification.
That
again,
we
understand
the
situation.
We
just
don't
want
to
see
bigger
billboards
in
that
area.
AL
Thirdly,
we
don't
understand
how
these
sign
credits
are
being
used
in
general.
We
understand
if
there
is
an
existing
billboard
somewhere
in
a
non-conforming
residential
area
and
that
sign
gets
removed,
then
those
credits
can
be
used
to
convert
these
existing
regular
billboards
to
digital
billboards.
But
we
don't
understand.
Is
that
a
one-for-one
swap
or
do
they
get
two
for
one
if
they
take
down
a
billboard
or
they
get
to
convert
two
to
digital?
We
have
no
understanding
of
how
this
Credit
System
is
working.
AL
We
just
appreciate
some
clarification
or
explanation
of
that,
so
we
can
understand
what
we're
dealing
with
in
the
future.
These
signs,
ironically,
are
in
the
Elliott
Park
neighborhood
they're,
in
a
councilmembers
Ward
that
is
across
the
street,
from
our
neighborhood
and
a
different
councilmembers
Ward.
But
ironically,
these
signs
face
north
facing
our
neighborhood
and
our
Ward.
They
have
very
little
impact
on
the
digitization
of
these
on
Elliott
Park
in
that
area.
So
again,
the
greatest
impact
is
felt
by
our
neighborhood.
AL
The
simple
ask
is
you
know,
we'd
love
to
have
a
representative
from
the
sign
company
or
city
staff,
see
to
come
to
a
future
meeting
of
the
DMA
and
explain
how
this
is
going
to
work,
so
we
don't
get
caught
blindsided
again
and
confused
in
the
context
of
the
interpretation
and
the
implementation
of
this
complex
sign,
ordinance
and,
second
of
all,
again,
the
simple
ask
is
that
you
condition
this
approval
on
these
signs.
Not
getting
any
bigger.
AL
A
AK
AK
C
Questions
so,
if
we're
talking
very
specifically
about
what
looks
like
to
me,
three
billboards,
there's
two:
on
top
of
the
Eric,
the
red
building
one
faces
south
one
faces
north
approximately
there's
a
free-standing
pedestal
sign
in
the
parking
lot
that
faces
generally
towards
the
stadium.
These
are
the
three
signs
are
talking
about.
Only.
C
C
AK
The
southern
facing
sign
would
not
be
eligible
to
be
converted.
Okay,
it's
not
north
facing
it
would
allow
for
that
North
facing
billboard
to
be
converted.
I
believe
the
other
freestanding
sign
over
the
parking
lot
is
digital
already,
no
I,
don't
think
so.
It
is
not
already.
This
amendment
would
allow
that
sign
to
be
converted
to
digital
as
well.
Okay,.
A
AM
By
chairman,
Rockefeller
am
Commissioner
Cromwell
cron,
sir.
This
scheme
has
been
around
for
20
years.
The
removal
not
confirming
science
I
mean
we
want
to
go
back
to
it,
goes
back
into
the
90s
non-conforming
science
are
getting
them
out
of
South
Minneapolis.
We
go
back
to
the
days
when
we
had
Joe
Camel
above
grocery
stores.
There.
AM
The
signs
are
in
areas
that
are
not
either
zoned
for
billboards
at
all
half
the
time
they
weren't
even
commercially
zoned,
so
the
signs
were
moved
throughout
the
city.
The
benefit
is
to
the
city.
You
can
argue
about
where
they,
you
know
where
you
should
be
allowed
to
upgrade
science
or
not,
but
that
decision
was
made
back
in
the
90s.
That's
how
we
got
science
up
on
highway
94,
going
up
the
freeways,
that's
how
we've
been
expansion
of
billboards,
downtown,
so
non-conforming
signs.
AM
Typically,
a
company
will
have
what
they
call
the
plant
the
number
of
signs
they
have
in
a
city,
a
number
of
have
been
identified
as
non-conforming
I
think
that
a
niggly
is
the
predecessor,
the
Clear
Channel,
but
probably
200
faces
or
more
have
been
removed
over
the
years.
So
they
will
find
signs
that
currently
don't
meet
the
zoning
map
to
loud
signs
throughout
the
city
and
over
time
they
remove
them.
AM
The
square
footage
is
in
this
case
is
two
to
one
so
for
every
2
square
feet
you
remove,
you
can
convert
one
doe
digital,
the
signs
in
place.
The
code
is
written
to
say,
existing
signs.
These
are
existing
science
with
north
faces,
so
I
hope
that
brings
clarity
to
it.
I
appreciate
the
comments
from
the
neighborhood,
but
I
don't
think
the
sign
credit
is
as
complicated
as
people
are
making
it.
AM
AM
C
AM
AM
One
of
the
things
that
we
looked
at
because
I
think
there's
awesome
confusion
about
that
planning
staff
looked
at
when
we
revisited
this.
Was
there
a
way
to
do
it
through
a
variance
or
CEP,
but
to
address
the
concerns
of
the
neighborhood?
That's
how
you
get
into
other
parts
of
downtown.
Unless
you
have
specificity
to
the
district,
you
actually
do
open
it
up,
because
how
would
you
ever
deny
a
CE
appear
of
variance
for
somebody
else?
So
the
reason
that
the
reason
that
the
district
has
this
this
leg
on
it
is.
AM
We
have
an
existing
set
of
science
into
this
condition
and
the
way
that
you
make
this
targeted
and
limited
is
to
not
do
it
by
the
other
means,
because
how
would
you
ever
say
somebody
else
couldn't
apply
for
that.
So
when
we
looked
at
that,
we
came
back
to
a
narrow
expansion
of
the
district
in
the
closest
proximity
to
the
to
the
the
US
Bank
Stadium,
and
we
talked
about
the
history
about
that
they
weren't
under
the
same
regulatory
regime
when
they
were
when
those
signs
that
were
developed
and
placed
out.
AM
G
O
A
O
O
AH
AH
You
I
agree
with
everything
commissioner
Coleman
has
said
and
I
add
a
couple
of
things:
I
think
in
that
surface
parking
lot
now
on
that
block
there
is
a
residential
building
or
if
there
isn't,
one
is
supposed
to
go
there
but
and
I
think
the
names
of
these
things
should
mean
something
downtown
entertainment,
billboard
district
is
the
name
this
and
on
that
block,
there's
one
restaurant.
So
that's
the
entertainment
around
it
across
the
street
is
HCMC.
Kitty-Corner
is
the
medical
examiner's
office
and
then
to
the
east.
Is
that
energy
facility?
AH
So
it's
not
as
though
this
is
an
area
in
which
entertainment
options
in
the
near
future
are
going
to
grow
or
increase
I
suppose
if
those
enormous
public
use
structures
disappear,
you
know
we'd
be
talking
about
something,
but
any
argument
you
make
that
this
is
anything
like
the
area
over
by
Target,
Field
or
Target
Center
or
whatever
is
just
false.
I
mean
the
if
there's
entertainment,
it's
in
a
different
part
of
that
area
of
downtown,
for
which
I'm
not
at
all,
recommending
an
expansion
of
this
district
at
all,
but
it
Commissioner
Coleman's
exactly
right.
A
G
A
H
I
was
just
going
to
add
if
we
wanted
to
tie
it
to
the
Comprehensive
Plan
in
the
staff
report.
The
policies
that
are
cited
generally
relate
to
entertainment
and
I
would
agree
with
Commissioner
Swezey
that
you
know
in
this
particular
part
of
downtown
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
residential
growth
we're
seeing
institutional
growth.
While
there
is
a
stadium
across
the
street,
that
was
a
state
initiated
project
that
really
was
exempt
from
the
zoning
code
and
things
like
the
signage
associated
with
that
did
not
come
before
this
commission.
H
The
city
had
very
little
discretion
over
that
and
I
just
believe
that
digital
billboards
on
poles
are
something
that
is
very
highway
oriented
and
not
well-suited
for
a
residential
area.
Our
comprehensive
plan
calls
for
significant
growth
in
this
area,
redevelopment
additional
housing,
and
it's
it's
really
not
conducive
to
freestanding
or
compatible
with
freestanding
billboards.
A
AJ
F
AJ
N
AJ
J
I'd
say
on
the
42nd
Hiawatha
Starbucks
project
that
went
to
the
zoning
and
planning
committee.
Last
week,
the
zoning
and
planning
committee
did
grant
the
appeal
with
some
additional
conditions
of
approval
related
to
the
adoption
and
implementation
of
a
trail
demand
management
plan
that
would
address
further
potential
conflicts
with
pedestrians
and
queuing
at
site.
J
So
the
travel
demand
management
plan
basically
allows
for
public
boards
to
engage
with
the
developer
to
apply
some
conditions
of
approval
or
agreements
based
on
traffic
counts
dragged
through
counts.
How
the
intersection
is
performing
related
to
backup
as
backups
at
the
light
etc,
and
gives
us
a
little
bit
more
teeth
through
that
and
through
the
business
license
to
enforce
things
like
potential
on-site
traffic
controls.