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From YouTube: September 23, 2019 City Planning Commission
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Minneapolis City Planning Commission Meeting
https://lims.minneapolismn.gov
A
All
right,
they've
called
the
meeting
to
order
it
is
the
September
23rd
2019
Minneapolis
City
Planning
Commission
hearing.
My
name
is
Sam
Rockwell
I
serve
as
the
president
of
the
Commission
I'm
joined
today
by
commissioners,
Ellison,
Brown,
Sweezey,
Schrader
and
Olson.
Our
first
order
of
business
today
is
to
review
the
committee
of
the
whole
consent
agenda
and
absent
with
our
vice
president.
Absent
I
will
go
over
that,
so
we
approved
the
2020
City
Planning
Commission
calendar.
A
We
recommended
approval
of
the
Gateway
northeast
tax,
increment
financing
plan
and
we
recommended
approval
consistent
with
the
Comprehensive
Plan
of
the
land
sale
of
3637
Emerson
Avenue,
north
and
3315
Thomas
Avenue.
North
I
will
take
a
motion
to
approve
all
of
those
items
for
motion
and
second
motion
and
a
second
any
discussion.
All
in
favor,
say
aye.
Any
opposed
motion
carries
all
right.
A
Our
next
item
of
business
is
to
approve
the
minutes
from
the
August
19th
2019
Minneapolis
City
Planning
Commission
meeting
do
I
have
a
motion
for
those
notes.
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
all
in
favor.
Any
opposed
motion
carries
all
right.
Our
next
item
of
business
is
to
organize
the
agenda
for
this
City
Planning
Commission
meeting
I
will
walk
through
the
items
on
our
agenda
today.
Please,
if
you're
here
indicate
if
you
wish
to
testify
about
a
project
viewers
to
testify
against
the
project
or
to
amend
the
staffs
recommendation.
A
If
you
wish
to
testify
in
support,
you
can
just
sort
of
show
on
a
consent,
agenda
item
number
one
as
2015-2019
21
13
Cedar
Avenue,
South
1820
and
1834
East
22nd
Street
in
Ward
six,
a
final
plant.
Anyone
here
to
speak
on
that
item,
seeing
none
we
were
placed
item
number
one
on
consent.
Item
number
two
will
be
continued
to
the
October
21st
City
Planning
Commission
meeting
item
number
three:
it
will
also
be
continued
to
the
October
21st
2019
City
Planning
Commission.
A
Meeting
hearing
item
number
four
is
2419:
the
Gateway
Northeast
24
19
24
23
and
24
35
Marshall
Street
northeast
and
30
34
3844
Lowry
Avenue
Northeast
in
Ward
3,
several
motions
there
to
approve
the
project.
Anybody
here
to
speak
on
item
number
for
several
to
speak
on
item
number:
four:
we
will
discuss
item
number
four
item.
Number
five
is
cusp
of
gasps
33
11
Broadway
Street
northeast
in
Ward
one.
We
all
discuss.
Item
number
five
item
number
six
is
1621
25th
Street
West
in
Ward
7,
an
application
for
not
a
non-conforming
use.
A
Anybody
to
speak
on
item
number
six,
seeing
no
one
will
place
out
of
number
six
on
consent.
Item
number:
seven:
we
will
continue
to
the
October
7th
Planning
Commission
hearing.
Did
anybody
here
come
to
speak
to
item
number?
Seven?
It
will
be
continued
to
October
7th.
All
right,
great
I
want
to
see
or
speak
to
that
item.
Number
eight
25:46
Johnson
Street
northeast
in
Ward,
one
a
rezoning
there
is
anybody
here,
speak
on
item
number.
A
Eight
one
person
for
item
number:
eight
item
number
nine
29,
12,
30th,
Avenue
South
in
Ward
2,
for
instance,
site
plan
review.
Is
anyone
here
to
speak
on?
Item
number.
Nine
place.
Item
number
nine
on
consent.
Item
number:
ten
is
29:21
29th
Avenue
South
in
Ward,
2
variants,
insight
plan.
Anybody
here
to
speak
on
a
number
time
see
no
one
will
place
out
of
number
ten
on
consent.
A
Item
number
eleven
is
twenty:
eight:
twenty
nine
27th
Avenue
South
Moore
anybody
here
to
speak
on
that
scene,
animal
place,
item,
number
11
on
consent
and
item
number
12
is
315,
Nicollet,
Mall
and
or
three
a
couple
variances
in
site
plan
with
use.
Anybody
here
speak
on
item
number,
12,
ID
number
12,
yes,
on
item
number
12
will
discuss.
Item
number
12
item
number
13
is
the
Center
for
Performing
Arts
expansion
at
37:54,
Pleasant
Avenue
in
Ward
8?
Is
anybody
here
to
speak?
A
We
have
several
here
to
speak
on
item
number:
13,
I'll,
discuss
item
number,
13
item
number
14,
1200,
Central,
Avenue
Northeast
in
Ward
1.
The
Herbert
will
be
continued
to
the
October
21st
2019
City
Planning
Commission
meeting
item
number
15
North
High
School
filled
renovation,
1801
Fremont,
Avenue
North
in
Ward
5.
Anybody
here
to
speak
on
item
number
15
see
none
will
place;
I,
remember
15
on
consent.
A
All
right,
so
our
amended
amenda
as
agenda.
How
about
agenda
as
amended
is
discussed,
item
s
number,
4,
5,
8,
12
and
13.
We
will
continue
item
summer,
2,
3
and
14
to
the
21st
and
item
number
7
to
the
7th
and
on
consent.
What
we
have
summer,
1,
6,
9,
10,
11
and
15
commissioners
could
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
as
amended.
B
A
A
C
A
D
A
E
E
Could
afternoon,
commissioners,
this
is
an
application
by
common
bond
communities
for
a
development
site
located
in
the
south
east
quadrant
of
Lowry
and
Marshall
in
Northeast
Minneapolis.
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
construct
a
mixed-use
building
at
128
Dolan
units
and
9600
square
feet,
a
ground-floor
commercial
space.
There
are
several
applications
that
are
required
for
this
development.
E
Two
of
them
are
rezone
Ian's.
The
applicant
has
petitioned
Therese
on
all
of
the
properties
within
the
development
site
to
see
which
is
what
this
property
is
currently
zoned.
The
two
properties
on
Marshall
would
need
to
be
reserved
from
the
r2b
to
the
c2,
and
then
the
four
properties
along
Lowry
would
need
to
be
razón.
Excuse
me
from
c1
to
c2,
and
we
are
recommending
approval
of
that.
There
is
policy
within
the
comprehensive
plan
that
would
support
those
recommendations.
The
land-use
guidance
for
the
site
is
mixed
use
and
also
urban
neighborhood,
Marshall
and
Lowry.
E
Both
neighborhood
excuse
me
community
quarters
and
then
the
project
site,
or
this
personal
excuse
me-
is
also
located
in
a
neighborhood
commercial
node,
and
so
for
those
reasons
and
others.
As
listed
in
the
staff
report,
we
are
recommending
approval
of
those
reasonings
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
site
orientation.
We
did
see
this
other
Committee
of
the
Whole
meeting
over
the
summer,
or
maybe
even
last
spring
I'm,
forgetting
Winn,
so
Larry
is
up
here
and
then
Marshall
is
here.
E
The
ground-floor
commercial
is
located
towards
the
corner
of
the
site
and
is
in
yellow
and
then
you've
got
building
services
in
green
and
then
the
blue
here
on
this
eastern
end
of
the
development
site
and
then
all
of
the
stories
above
our
residential
dwelling
units,
there
is
ground
parking
here,
access
to
an
underground
surface
parking
lot
here.
Currently
there
is
an
alley,
a
public
alley
that
goes
through
the
block.
It
goes
north
south
than
it
currently
exits
out
to
Larry
in
conversations
with
Public
Works,
the
alley
is
going
to
dogleg
itself
out
to
Grand
Street.
E
This
is
a
situation
where
Public
Works
requested
that
the
alley
be
wider
than
a
typical
alley
to
allow
for
two-way
operations
and
as
part
of
the
site
plan
review
that
Public
Works
is
involved
in
the
public.
On
the
preliminary
development
review,
they
will
be
conditioning
that
there'd
be
signage
in
this,
to
direct
those
leaving
this
development
to
exit
to
Grand
and
then
go
to
Lowry.
E
Where
there
is
a
signal,
we
did
not
add
any
conditions
of
approval
related
to
the
alley-
and
this
is
this-
is
a
public
alley
and
Public
Works
has
control
over
the
right-of-way,
not
c-pen,
and
so,
if
something
in
the
future
were
to
change
out
at
the
site
or
on
the
blocker
and
the
neighborhood
we
didn't
want
to
have
this
development
or
the
Apple
can't
come
back
to
amend
any
conditions.
So
that
is
why
you
don't
see
conditions
on
here
for
the
alley.
E
However,
it
is
part
of
the
Public
Works
review,
which
is
also
in
your
packets
and
then
Public
Works
did
respond
to
a
letter
from
the
button,
a
Neighborhood
Association,
and
that
was
in
your
packets
that
was
received
late
after
the
materials
had
already
gone
out,
so
the
other
applications
and
that
are
required
for
this
development
site.
There's
a
conditional
use
permit
to
increase
the
height
of
the
building
from
four
stories
or
56
feet
up
to
five
stories
or
69
feet.
E
The
entire
building
is
not
69
feet
tall
that
that
height
is
measured
to
the
peak
of
this
architecture,
architectural
feature
at
the
corner
of
the
site,
which
is
located
away
from
the
nearest
residential
properties.
The
portions
of
the
building
that
are
closest
to
those
residential
properties
either
on
excuse
me
and
Marshall,
or
on
Grant,
stepped
down
to
four
storeys
in
height.
E
Given
the
overall
height
of
the
building,
there
is
a
variance
to
reduce
the
interior
side
yard
setback.
The
portion
in
the
building
that
is
nearest
to
that
interior
property
line
is
foresters,
which
would
only
require
the
11
feets,
but
the
overall
height
of
the
building
dictates
overall
setbacks,
notice,
13.
So,
for
those
reasons
we're
recommending
approval
of
those
they
do
have
a
variance
to
increase
in
the
maximum
floor
area
ratio
of
the
site
of
the
building
from
one
seven,
two
to
four
nine.
E
For
the
reasons
listed
in
the
staff
report,
going
back
to
the
Comprehensive
Plan
guidance
that
we
have
to
increase
density
in
these
characteristics,
we
are
recommending
approval
of
that,
and
then
they
did
a
site
plan
review
or
preliminary
and
final
plat
and
then
the
vacation
of
the
ally,
and
we
are
recommending
approval
of
all
of
those
applications
as
well.
They
do
need
some
alternative
compliance
via
the
site
plan
review
application,
the
building
emplacement.
They
have
pulled
the
footprint
of
the
building
further
from
both
Lowry
and
Marshall,
where
the
building
is
greater
than
the
eight
feet.
E
It
is
where
the
entrances
to
the
buildings
are.
The
building
along
Larry
also
needed
to
be
pulled
back,
as
explained
in
the
background
section
of
your
staff
report
in
the
future.
Seven
to
ten
years,
Hennepin
County
is
going
to
reconstruct
this
part
of
Lowry
and
they
do
need
additional
right-of-way
and
so
working
through
the
development
onboarding
of
the
site.
We
met
with
Hennepin
County
and
the
building
is
placed
in
a
location
that
will
allow
for
that
reconstruction
project
to
occur
as
it
is
dictated
in
their
Hennepin
County
plans.
E
There
are
some
blank
walls
and
we
are
missing
some
windows
on
the
ground
floor
of
the
building
facing
the
on-site
parking
lot,
where
they
are
our
blank
walls,
they
do
have
green
screens.
We
are
making
that
a
condition
of
approval
where
there
are
less
windows
in
the
resident.
Excuse
me,
the
non-residential
portion
of
the
building
the
residential
portion
of
the
building
makes
up
for
it
all
of
the
upper
levels,
have
the
required
and
exceed
the
minimum
amount
of
windows.
So
we
are
recommending
that
you
grant
alternative
compliance.
E
They
do
also
need
to
alternate
compliance
measures
for
site,
point-of-view
and
I
apologize.
It
did
not
print
the
landscaping
plan,
I'm
now
known
as
Dean,
but
the
landscaped
yard
here
is
less
than
seven
feet
of
this
five
and
they
don't
have
a
screen.
That's
95%,
opaque
across
the
alley
there
are
garages
and
in
between
the
garages,
are
six-foot
tall
fences,
so
that
screening
would
not
be
shielding
the
parking
from
any
of
those
adjacent
uses,
because,
unless
they're
over
six
feet
tall,
you
can't
see
it
from
those
backyard
and
they
do
have
landscaping
in
those
areas.
E
It's
not
that
they
don't
have
anything.
They
do
have
some
it's
just
that
95%
of
Paykan
for
traffic
measures.
It
would
be
best
to
not
have
that
tall
screen
when
you
have
the
cars
coming
out
of
the
parking
lot
and
then
the
adjacent
driveway
to
that
underground
garage.
So
we
are
recommending
that
you
gradual
turn
of
compliance
for
all
of
those
for
those
items
and
in
the
developments
and
I
will
stand
for
any
questions.
Commissioners.
A
F
My
name
is
Katie
Behrens
I
live
at
24:16,
Grand
Street
northeast,
my
home,
was
in
the
exact
middle
of
that
elf.
That
was
just
up
there.
So
when
you're
saying
the
garage,
that's
all
right,
I'm
also
here
on
behalf
of
my
neighbors
on
each
side
who
neither
could
attend.
We
bought
our
house
about
five
years
ago.
We
moved
into
a
neighborhood
that
is
two
and
three
stories
tall,
not
five
surrounded.
That's
not
the
house.
We
bought.
That's,
not
the
zoning
I
do
not
object
to
building
a
building.
F
I
understand
we're
not
talking
about
the
alley,
but
the
alley
will
wrap
right
around
our
house
and
it
seems
like
a
terrible
plan
because
it's
going
to
come
in
about
20
feet
off
a
busy
intersection
blindly
the
alley
also
coming
straight
now.
It
does
break
up
that
building.
If
we
were
talking
about
three
three-story
buildings,
I
wouldn't
be
here
objecting,
so
I
really
just
want.
It
noted
that
those
of
us
that
live
there
we
did
purchase
our
homes
there.
We
did
understand
the
zoning
that
was
in
place,
and
that
was
part
of
our
decisions.
G
My
name
is
Ray
canopy
and
I
also
live
at
24,
16
Bradstreet
and
just
to
echo
what
Katie
mentioned
I
think
we're.
In
addition
to
that,
the
intersection
of
Marshall
and
Lowry
is
already
a
very
congested
one
and
then
having
you
know,
the
amount
of
population
that's
going
to
is
proposed
in
that
in
that
dense
corner
and
not
have
a
easily
flowed
area
around
that,
and
even
given
the
the
sort
of
alley
requirement
that
the
alley
puts
you
right
at
a
stoplight.
H
Hughes
1080
come
attend
any
montreal
Avenue
South
st.
Paul,
combine
communities
I'm
here
on
behalf
the
applicant
I,
just
like
to
say
that
we're
excited
to
be
moving
for
this
redevelopment.
We're
excited
to
offer
mixed
income
housing,
this
community
and
commercial
neighborhoods
coming
to
commercial
as
well
at
least
60%,
affordable,
so
having
much
need
affordable
housing
to
the
area,
and
we
agree
and
concur
with
SAS
findings
on
this.
Thank
you
thank.
D
Grass
ball,
I
am
I.
Just
don't
really
understand
why
there
are
all
these
projects
that
get
put
forward
where
the
zoning
is
different.
This
particular
project
it
has
to
get
rezone
for
two
things,
has
two
variances
and
has
one
conditional
use
permit,
and
then
they
have
to
vacate
the
alley
as
well.
So
I'm
not
really
sure
why
projects
like
this
one
can
coming
in
front
of
you
and
in
front
of
the
City
Council
and
keep
getting
approved
with
no
regard
for
City,
for
what
the
zoning
currently
is.
D
But
it's
really
not
a
good
project
for
some
of
the
people.
The
immediate
neighbors.
The
project
developers
need
to
work
better
with
those
neighbors
to
mitigate
their
problems.
With
this,
if
you're
got
a
rezone,
why
don't
you
just
rezone
that
River
liquor
site
itself
make
that
building
taller
than
the
five
storeys
and
then
go
out
on
the
other
side?
Two
to
three
stories
like
it's
already
zoned
also
I,
do
have
a
problem
with
the
alley,
because
it's
the
footprint
of
that
building
is
really
impeding
the
immediate
neighbors.
A
C
I
I
C
K
A
C
I
know
we've
heard
from
some
of
the
neighbors
on
the
building
heights
and
location
of
the
voting.
I
know
that
the
proposed
building
location
does
meet
the
setbacks.
I
realize
it
is
a
little
bit
of
a
change
there
with
a
reorienting,
reorienting
the
alley,
but
overall
I
should
say
on
the
south
side
a
lot
there's
variance
of
just
two
feet.
Overall,
the
building
bulk
is
about
what
you'd
expect
at
this
location
along
a
commercial
corridor.
I
A
L
Roger
yeah
I
would
just
like
to
know
that
I'm
not
gonna
be
spurring
the
vacation,
approval,
I,
think
blocks
and
streets
and
alleys
set
could
scale
to
the
city
and
when
the
city
starts
around
that
scale
weighs
we
tend
to
see
billions
that
might
not
be
at
the
right
scale
to
the
adjoining
building.
So
I,
don't
think,
there's
billions
of
courageous
but
I
think
keeping
that
alley
where
it
is
to
help
make
the
scale
buildings.
What
they
are
is
an
important
thing
very.
I
L
I
B
K
A
M
Good
afternoon,
president,
commissioners,
again
this
request
is
located
at
33,
11,
Broadway
Street
northeast
the
applicant
is
seeking
to
establish
a
new
accessory
automobile
convenience
facility.
This
request
requires
two
applications:
one
a
conditional
use
permit
to
allow
an
automobile
convenience
facility
in
the
eye.
One
district
and
two
site
plan
review
for
establishing
a
new
automobile
related
use,
the
subject
property,
it's
just
over
12
acres
in
size
and
contains
a
building
that
is
just
around
155
thousand
square
feet.
M
M
M
L
N
N
The
discrepancy
that
we're
looking
at
now
is
perhaps
the
canopy
tree
versus
some
of
the
other
trees
that
were
included
as
part
of
the
landscape
plan,
which
included
some
ornamental
trees
and
a
large
number
of
coniferous
or
evergreen
trees,
which
were
already
on
the
property.
We
did
add
a
few
more
to
the
project
as
well,
but
what
I
would
would
propose
is,
if
we're
not
going
to
allow
the
ornamental
trees
to
count
towards
a
canopy
tree.
N
We
would
be
willing
to
replace
the
balance
of
the
required
to
what
we
currently
have
on
site
so
long
as
the
existing
evergreen
trees
are
allowed
to
count
towards
that
requirement,
and
they
do
present
value
to
the
project
and
we
would
hate
to
see
those
have
to
go
to
make
room
for
a
different
type
of
tree.
We
just
don't
think
we
have
the
room
to
accommodate
that
so
we'd
like
to
have
that
be
considered
as
part
of
this
proposal.
N
In
addition
to
that,
you
know,
I
see
under
the
staff
recommendations
and
conditions
of
approval
that
they
are
requesting.
95%
opacity
at
3,
feet
high
along
Broadway
and
Hoover
again
we're
not
impacting
the
majority
of
the
project
or
majority
of
the
sites.
With
this
proposal,
the
if
the
request
is,
may
be
geared
a
little
bit
more
specific
toward
this
current
proposal.
That
might
be
something
that
we
could
could
work
with.
N
A
O
First
of
all,
simply
this
application
should
be
denied,
because
the
existing
use
is
actively
in
violation
of
the
zoning
ordinance
and
has
never
obtained
the
necessary
approvals
to
be
here
for
the
2016
Sony
administrator
determination.
This
use
staff
indicated
is
a
wholesaling
warehousing
and
distribution
use.
Now
that
is
a
very
different
classification
than
your
standard.
Sam's,
Club
or
Costco
use,
Sam's,
Club
or
Costco
are
traditionally
classified
as
general
retail
sales
and
service,
which
is
of
course
prohibited
in
the
Iowan
district
and
in
fact,
in
2004,
on
this
very
same
property.
O
In
this
very
same
zoning,
the
city
denied
a
Sam's
Club
warehousing
Club
retail
center,
because
it
was
a
general
retail
sales
and
service.
Now,
fortunately,
for
Costco
under
the
situation,
wholesaling
warehousing
and
distribution
is
allowed
in
the
I-1
district.
It
is
allowed,
subject
to
a
maximum
gross
floor
area
of
thirty
thousand
square
feet.
O
The
Zoning
administrators
determination
said
that
if
the
character
of
this
2016
described
use
changes,
it
may
constitute
a
wholesale
change
of
the
land
use
itself
and
I.
Think
that's
exactly
what
we
have
here.
If
you
ask
yourself,
every
Costco,
I've
ever
seen
has
a
large
gas
station
out
front,
but
it
didn't
come
through
in
the
beginning
because
they
wanted
to
frame
this
as
some
other
use
of
business
use.
Well,
the
truth
is
this:
is
you
can
meet
all
of
your
grocery
shopping
needs
here,
but
it
also
serves
the
b2b
community.
O
So
the
addition
of
the
the
the
gas
station
pumps,
the
accessory
gas
station,
will
make
this
no
different
than
your
Eden.
Prairie,
Costco
and
Costco's
model,
as
you
probably
know,
is
to
attract
their
members
with
cheap
gas
to
get
them
inside
the
store.
So
exactly,
as
was
foretold
in
the
zoning
administrators,
determination
and
I've
included
an
excerpt
in
our
letter.
When
this
use
changes
in
character,
it
has
the
impact
of
potentially
changing
that
use
and
I.
Believe
that's
exactly
what
we
have
here.
O
What
you
need
to
do,
or
what
I
would
ask
you
to
do-
is
deny
this
application
and
ask
them
to
come
forward
with
a
rezoning
application
to
get
to
a
district
that
would
allow
that
general
retail
sales
and
services
use
now.
I
also
want
to
touch
briefly
on
the
importance
of
the
industrial,
employment,
district
and
I
have
been
in
front
of
this
body
and
in
front
of
the
City
Council
and
I've
heard
on
several
occasions.
O
The
importance
of
this
area
in
particular,
and
the
industrial
employment
district
and
the
policies
in
that
district
and
that
district
serves
to
create
and
preserve
high
density,
industrial
jobs
and
is
the
application
States.
This
will
create
exactly
one
attendant
job
on
one
and
a
half
acres
approximately
wanted
to
have
a
KERS
of
industrial
land.
Now
that
is
far
below
the
density
is
called
for
in
the
industrial
employment
district,
so
my
clients
operate
frankly,
they
operate
a
gas
station.
So
this
isn't
about
to
fighting
gas
station
I.
O
Think
the
truth
is
this
is
a
potentially
existential
threat,
but
what
it's
really
about
is
allowing
multinational
corporation
a
billion-dollar
out-of-state
corporation
to
play
by
different
rules.
My
clients
have
gone
through
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
Board
of
Adjustment,
no
less
than
five
times
for
various
licenses
and
approvals,
including
a
traffic
study
to
demonstrate
how
their
gas
station
would
impact
the
surrounding
area.
O
So
what
we're
asking
is
simply
that
the
city
holds
this
applicant
accountable
and
brings
them
through
the
necessary
process,
so
with
that,
I
would
ask
that
you
either
deny
the
application
outright
or
continue
this
application
and
direct
the
applicant
to
come
back
with
an
application
that
does
comply
with
the
city
code.
Thank
you.
P
Lambert's
2700
University
Avenue
mr.
president
and
commissioners
I'm
the
gentleman
that
kind
of
brought
this
about
I'm,
a
avid
proponent
of
Costco
I
shop
there
three
times
a
day
at
this
particular
unit,
the
place.
What
I'm
going
to
talk
about
is
the
traffic
the
traffic
there
is
already
horrible,
I'm,
backed
up
all
the
way
to
280,
because
the
intersection
at
universe
or
industrial
Broadway
is
was
designed
wrong
until
just
flat-out
wrong.
So
we're
all
backed
up
up
to
that
thing.
The
curb
cuts
in
this
general
property
here
too,
are
one.
P
The
one
on
Broadway
is
so
tiny
I
in
the
lawn
every
time.
I
go
this
one.
On
the
other
side
there
the
way
the
traffic
is
going
to
flow
through
there
and
then
come
through
the
parking
lots.
It's
not
going
to
work.
I'm
a
gas
station
guy
I've
been
doing
it
for
15
years.
I
know
what
I'm
doing
they
do
too
and
I'm
sure
this
gentleman
here
probably
does
too
but
I.
Don't
know
how
that
passed.
That's
90,000
gallons
of
fuel
on
the
ground
right.
P
There
I
have
22,000
on
my
property,
that's
a
lot
of
traffic
and
that's
what
was
not
stated
in
the
application.
That's
how
much
traffic
is
going
to
be
in
that
area.
There's
a
huge
holiday
three
blocks
away.
No
one
was
asking
for
a
gas
station,
so
all
I'm
asking
again
is
this-
should
be
denied.
I
had
to
do
all
this
stuff
and
it
doesn't
seem
like
Costco
has
to
and
that's
not
fair
I'm
I've
been
in
the
city
forever.
I
live
here.
They
don't
and
the
they
can
get
by.
P
A
Q
The
commissioners
I'm
Devin
I
live
at
two
7:01
for
Street,
southeast
and
I'm
just
far
away
from
this
development,
but
doesn't
matter
I'm
here
just
to
ask
you
guys
to
Dennard
its
project
because
we
just
had
like
an
international
climate
March
on
Friday,
and
this
would
obviously
increase
our
carbon
emissions
cause
Costco
gas
would
probably
cheap
people
will
be
driving
more
and
all
that
stuff
and
I
know
the
23
plane
isn't
doesn't
coming
top
factor
to
remember
first,
but
in
that
plan,
there's
like
no
new
gas
stations
within
that
plan,
but
but
yeah
but
yeah.
A
J
M
I
mean
we're
not
counting
ornamental
trees
towards
that
canopy
tree
requirements,
so
if
they
wanted
to
replace
those
canopy
trees
or
ornamental
trees
with
canopy
trees,
if
they
wanted
to
add
canopy
trees
between
the
existing
pine
trees,
ultimately,
we're
looking
for
canopy
trees
to
provide
shade.
Okay,.
M
Taking
a
look
at
the
entire
site,
not
just
around
the
gas
station
right,
this
property
went
through.
When
would
Costco
was
establishing
this
year.
It
went
through
a
modified
preliminary
development
review.
We
took
a
general
look
at
the
site,
there's
some
leeway
in
providing
trees,
canopy,
trees,
etc.
M
J
J
R
M
A
M
Costco
I
think
this
originated
from
a
zoning
letter.
Zoning
prepared
a
letter
that
said
wholesaling
we're
warehousing
and
distribution
is
a
permitted
use
in
the
eye
one
went
from
there.
We
saw
the
PDR
modified
preliminary
development
review
come
in.
We
did
look
at
that
30,000
square
foot
max
that
was
brought
up
to
management
after
looking
into
that
they
determined
that
was
not
needed.
If
that
had
been
needed
on
that
review,
that
would
have
stopped.
They
would
have
applied
for
a
Cu
P
they'd
be
in
front
of
the
same
board.
A
B
I
could
just
add
to
that,
so
the
zoning
administrators
determination
that
came
out
in
2016
classified
the
use
as
wholesaling
and
distribution
that
did
not
classify
it
as
warehousing
with
that
there
is
no
maximum
square
footage
for
a
wholesaling
use,
so
a
wholesale
use
is
not
limited
to
30,000
square
feet.
Okay,.
A
M
A
D
J
Was
just
wondering
if
any
conversations
had
taken
place
between
you
and
the
applicant
in
regard
to
some
of
their
concerns
about
the
site
plan
review
requirements?
I
know
it
sounds
really
like
a
bit
of
a
conundrum,
but
in
the
past,
when
we've
seen
gas
stations
come
through
in
the
recent
past,
some
of
them
have
proposed
a
vehicle
chargers
as
an
alternative
means
of
achieving
certain
things,
such
as
the
canopy
trees.
It's
part
of
an
environmental
goal
has
that
conversation
ever
taken
place,
just
it's
a
more
progressive
step
toward
what
we
could
do
to
accomplish
this.
J
C
A
L
A
S
The
property
is
located
on
an
adopted
community
corridor
in
the
ward
one
area
of
Northeast
in
general,
community
corridors,
support
mix
of
uses
and
densities
and
the
office
residence
district
is
established
to
allow
for
a
mix
of
uses
of
varying
scales,
but
in
general
office
uses
within
a
residential
context
and
then
also
some
limited
small
scale,
retail
and
neighborhood
serving
uses.
It
should
be
noted
that
those
neighbourhood
serving
retail
uses
are
only
allowed
in
excuse
buildings,
so
this
building
would
not
qualify
for
the
establishment
of
those
types
of
uses.
S
A
T
I'm
deaf
Koopman,
my
husband
Darryl,
is
here
also
were
the
applicants.
I
live
at
1:32
Alderwood
Avenue
in
Buffalo
and
I've
also
been
staying
at
this
house
now
for
a
couple
months.
It's
lovely
neighborhood,
lovely
house.
We
sold
a
property,
I
I've
been
a
landlord
for
30
years
and
we
had
a
property
in
st.
Paul
that
we
sold
this
spring
and
wanted
to
reinvest
the
money.
T
We've
been
renting
that
to
our
daughter
and
her
husband,
while
he
was
going
to
veterinary
school
when
we
sold
it,
we
started
looking
for
another
property
for
my
other
daughter,
who
is
a
marriage
therapist.
She
currently
practices
in
the
Waite
Park
neighborhood
out
of
her
home
she's
at
the
moment,
8
months
pregnant,
which
is
why
she's
not
here
right
now
and
she
has
a
two-year-old
at
home.
T
We
started
out
by
looking
for
commercial
properties,
and
those
are
precious
few
in
the
price
range
that
we're.
Looking
that
we
were
looking
at.
We
looked
for
or
won
properties,
those
are
also
precious
few,
and
so
we,
you
know
you
keep
expanding
your
vision,
and
so
then
we
moved
on
to
looking
for
a
property
that
was
in
a
mixed-use
corridor
so
that
we
could
look
for
rezoning
it
or
if
we
really
have
to
convert
to
a
duplex,
which
is
not
what
we
would
prefer
to
do.
T
We
found
a
look,
this
lovely
home,
it's
a
Craftsman
bungalow
built
in
1916,
it's
been
well
tended
and
loved,
and
with
my
daughter
present
and
the
other
therapists
that
will
be
there,
it
will
continue
to
be
a
home
that
is
taken
care
of
in
ways
that
we
all
know
that
a
rental
property
often
is
not
so
that's
our.
Our
request
is
to
move
to
or
from
our
to
be
Oh
r1.
A
U
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Karen
Karen,
Headen
and
I'm.
Here
with
my
husband
marketing
we
live
at
2530
for
Johnson
Street
northeast
were
about
three
houses
down
from
from
this
home.
We've
lived
in
this
house
for
37
years,
so
I've
seen
a
lot
of
changes
in
the
neighborhood.
We
live
on
Johnson
Street,
which
has
gotten
extremely
busy
over
the
years.
Since
the
addition
of
the
quarry,
which
is
on
35w
and
rose
onto
Johnson
Street
there,
there
is
many
neighbors
on
both
sides
of
the
street
that
our
families
they've
been
living
there.
U
Many
years
and
parking
has
become
difficult
due
to
some
rentals
that
have
come
in
which
God
has
said
that
it
would
be
a
rental
if
they
aren't
able
to
rezone
this,
but
per
mine.
I
was
looking
at
the
website
for
her
current
property,
where
they
are
doing
therapy
from
and
I
did
read
that
it
could
be
for
groups
as
well.
U
So
my
concern
is
how
many
parking
spots
on
this
street
that
is
right
on
a
very
busy
corner
of
Johnson
Lowry
that
will
be
taken
up
by
individuals
coming
to
this
home
and,
as
she
said,
it's
a
very
well-cared-for
home
and
I
definitely
agree
the
neighborhood
all
our
older
homes
neighbors,
it's
just
a
very
nice
area,
but
we
do
have
some
rentals
on
this
property
on
this
area
as
well.
Teen
Challenge
is
on
the
Lincoln
side,
which
has
taken
up.
Let's
see
I,
would
say
quite
a
few
of
our
Lots.
U
Actually,
it
would
be
taking
up
9
watts
that
used
to
be
a
Borden
care
home,
which
is
the
same
as
what
an
assisted
living
is
now,
which
was
very
quaint
and
nice
years
ago,
and
now
we
have
a
few
individuals
at
that
facility,
so
there's
lots
of
alley
traffic.
We
have
alley
traffic
also
as
because
Johnson
Laurie
has
gotten
so
busy.
They
want
to
bypass
that
corner
slip,
so
they
come
down
our
alley.
U
We
do
have
children
on
that
alley
and
I
would
assume
if
they're
coming
to
a
home
for
therapy
per
se-
and
there
is
not
parking
there.
They're
going
to
be
coming
down
the
alley
as
well,
so
I
would
like
to
propose,
as
she
was
saying,
that
this
is
for
more
than
one
office
I.
It
could
vary
with
how
many
people
are
coming
to
that
home
that
this
would
not
go
through
for
the
good
of
our
neighbors,
and
there
are
some
small
children
in
our
block
area
as
well.
Thank
you.
A
C
I
have
a
question
for
staff
I'm
just
curious.
If
there
there
have
been
any
conversations
with
the
construction
code
staff
about
what
sort
of
interior
modifications
might
be
required
for
this
structure
to
be
reoccupied
with
a
commercial
occupancy.
It
looks
like
these
done
the
floor
plan.
It's
pretty
minor
modifications,
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
elaborate
on
that
at
all.
Peter
I,
don't.
S
Have
that
information
in
front
of
me
I
know
for
certain
types
of
commercial
occupancy,
certain
upgrades
would
be
required
like
a
DA
and
our
fire
safety
I.
Don't
know
that,
for
this
scale
of
office
use,
those
kinds
of
modifications
are
typically
required,
but
when
the
applicant
comes
through
for
a
business
license,
they
would
be
subject
to
that
kind
of
review.
Okay,.
A
V
V
This
is
in
the
middle
of
the
block,
a
couple
other
things
that
give
me
pause
with
this.
Whether
the
amendment
is
in
the
public
interest
and
is
not
solely
for
the
interest
of
a
single
single
property
owner,
I
can't
see
that
this
is
in
the
broader
public
interest
and
not
in
the
interest
of
a
single
property
owner
they're
looking
for
a
place
to
put
a
business
for
them.
Now,
it's
not
the
kind
of
business
that
everybody
on
the
block,
necessarily
wants
or
needs
or
will
use.
V
V
You
know
this
is
a
single-family
house
in
the
middle
of
a
block
and
I
I
think
also
I.
Don't
have
any
reason
to
believe
an
absentee
landlord
would
come
in
and
take
this
over
if
they
rent
it
or
if
they
sell
it.
But
it
is
true
that
you
do
lose
the
eyes
on
the
street
and
the
24-hour
thing
and
somebody
bring
in
their
groceries
home
at
nine
ten
o'clock
at
night,
and
that's
that's.
What's
you
know,
what's
been
on
this
street
and
to
plop
this
right
in
the
middle
of
the
block?
V
S
S
It's
a
large
new
project,
so
I
won't
go
too
far
into
the
details,
except
to
perhaps
answer
questions
of
the
commission
and/or
the
public,
but
I
will
say
that
the
allocation
is
seeking
to
variances
to
the
Nicollet
Mall
overlay
district
standards.
One
of
those
is
to
allow
the
building
to
be
located
more
than
eight
feet
from
the
property
line
and
I'll
just
go
over
that
here.
S
The
other
variance
is
to
the
Nicollet
Mall
overlay
district
standards
that
call
for
at
least
sixty
percent
of
the
gross
floor
area
within
the
overlay
to
be
retail
space.
The
applicant
is
not
meeting
that
standard
of
leave
it's
28
percent
in
terms
of
the
amount
that
they
are
currently
meeting
within
the
actual
overlay
space.
They
do
meet
the
standard
along
that
the
commercial
space.
S
S
The
main
one
having
to
do
with
the
building
design
is
regarding
the
entrance
to
the
Autoport,
which
is
located
on
the
third
street
elevation.
Let's
see
if
I
can
call
up
a
image
here,
so
there's
one
principal
entrance
to
the
shared
vehicle
parking
along
3rd
streets
there's
also
a
turnaround
space
and
Auto
Court
for
vehicle
drop-offs.
In
that
location,
the
curb
cut
is
narrowed
somewhat
to
minimize
conflicts
with
pedestrian
traffic,
but
there
is
a
large
opening
that
exposes
the
public
realm
to
that
internal
vehicle
circulation.
S
Space
staff
has
worked
with
saying
that
the
applicant
look
at
some
ways
of
increasing
the
screening
between
the
public
right-of-way
that
internal
Auto
Court
such
that
it
doesn't
have
as
impactful
of
a
visual
and
audio
presence
on
the
public
round
potentially,
and
so
that
would
be
explored
through
conversations
with
staff
after
approval
if
the
Commission
sees
fit
so
I'll
not
get
too
far
into
the
design,
know
the
applicants
here
and
I
can
maybe
just
answer.
Questions
are
related
to
the
concern
of
those
present.
W
Evening
president
rockball
commissioners,
nick
murnian
with
the
opus
group,
40:47,
Sunnyside,
Road
I,
will
start
and
I'm
also
going
to
have
Bob.
Looking
with
the
SGS
say
a
few
words
about
the
specific
changes
since
our
Committee
of
the
Whole
meeting,
we're
very
excited
to
be
proposing
the
last
development
site
of
a
surface
lot
on
the
north
end
of
Nicollet
Mall,
and
continuing
to
see
that
transformation.
W
Since
we
last
met,
we
did
receive
a
letter
of
support
from
the
downtown
Minneapolis
neighborhood
association,
and
we
addressed
a
handful
of
changes
based
on
some
of
that
feedback
that
we
received
at
kau.
If
there
are
any
questions
for
me,
please
let
me
know
otherwise
all
that
Bob
run
through
a
handful
of
those
changes
since
that
meeting.
Thank
you
very
much.
L
X
This
first
exhibit
so
at
the
top
there's
five
pages
here:
I'll
go
through
those
pretty
quickly
at
the
top.
Is
the
image
from
committee
of
the
whole
at
the
bottom?
Is
the
image
from
the
land
use
application?
Several
of
the
commissioners
took
issue
with
the
design
of
the
back
portion
of
the
tower.
Some
commissioners
thought
that
maybe
it
was
not
reading
strong
enough
or
maybe
was
reading
a
little
confused.
X
X
X
Think
one
of
the
suggestions
from
commissioner
Carranza
was
to
make
that
glazing
pattern
in
front
of
the
parking
more
closely
resemble
the
glazing
pattern
and
the
rest
of
the
dark,
brick
podium,
and
there
were
a
couple
other
changes
that
we've
made
to
make
that
podium
language
a
little
more
cohesive
from
all
sides.
The
other
one
you
can
see
here
is
that
in
the
cow
application
we
had
a
slightly
different
color
of
material
along
those
walk-up
townhomes.
At
the
front,
the
Commission
challenged
us
to
simplify
that
palette,
and
so
we
brought
the
dark
brick
down.
X
And
I
think
I
think
you
know
we
discussed
a
little
bit
with
Peter
as
he
was
reading
his
staff
report
and
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
how
this
elevation
might
might
evolve.
We
did
add
a
little
bit
more
detail,
think
a
little
bit
more
about
how
the
interior
of
that
space
might
be
landscaped,
but
we
are
totally
amenable
to
to
staffs
recommendations
that
and
I
guess
we
could
use
this
exhibit
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
specifically
about
staffs
concerns,
but.
X
Z
X
That
there's
this
wide
aperture
that
that
really
along
the
public
realm,
maybe
saps
a
little
bit
of
life
away,
you're
looking
for
a
little
bit
more
building
wall,
I
think
and
a
little
bit
more
just
separation
from
that
automotive
use
and
we
are
totally
open
to
creative
ways
of
addressing
that
and
I
think.
Even
though
this
is
a
land
use,
application,
we're
always
trying
to
develop
the
design
and
make
it
better
and
we're
happy
to
work
with
staff
on
that.
X
A
AA
I'm
Virginia
may
I
live
it.
Excuse
me,
121
Washington
might
overlook
this.
First
of
all,
I
have
to
make
sure
that
I
know
what
I'm
talking
about.
Is
this
gonna
be
built
on
the
other
half
a
block
where
there's
already
a
high
rise
on
half
the
block,
your
and
so
how
are
the
people?
My
question
is:
there's
a
tower
here
in
a
tower
here.
Is
there
a
space
between
them
or
what,
whenever.
B
AA
Should
I
just
get
wait
for
that
or
continue?
Okay,
okay,
so
I
just
was
curious
about
that,
because
the
people
who
are
in
there
are
they
gonna,
be
looking
out
like
across
this
at
another
building.
But
my
major
concern
with
the
variances
that
are
granted
about
retail
and
setbacks
and
etc
is
I've.
Seen
this
happen
in
building
after
building
along
Marquette,
especially
and
the
mom.
AA
But
right
now,
when
you
walk
along
Marquette
anytime
after
8:30
at
night,
you're
fee
of
time
treat
for
at
least
several
blocks,
there
is
no
retail
the
last
cheering
I
came
to
here.
They
wanted
a
bike
valet
for
their
clients
to
be
counted
as
retail.
Well,
you
know
so
you
know
there's
a
there
so
when
they
published
the
mugging
and
crime
report,
the
area
that
they
talked
about
was
between
3rd
6th,
2nd,
Avenue
and
Hennepin
and
I.
AA
Think
when
you
walk
along
those
streets
anytime
from
8:30
on
it's
dark,
it's
all
cement,
a
variance
was
was
granted
for
them
to
have
parking
and
those
other
condo
building
or
apartment
buildings
and
I
just
feel
like
this
pattern
is
developing
that
people
have
their
living
space
on
patios
that
are
way
up
off
the
mall
and
it
doesn't
increase
the
business
or
the
walkability
or
the
pedestrian
count.
I
realize
retail
is
a
terrible
problem.
AA
People
there
aren't
tenants
for
the
places
there
are,
but
I
think
then
they
should
be
subsidized
or
something
should
happen
because
basically
the
mall,
except
for
restaurants
and
except
during
athletic
events
after
5:30
at
night
and
most
weekends,
is
a
scary
place
and
I've
lived
here
since
2000
and
I've
seen
some
bad
changes
and
I
feel
like
giving
variances
for
landscaping
for
retail
and
other
things
is
a
mistake.
Thank
you.
Thank.
X
AA
X
The
first
yeah
so
for
the
first
basically
between
those
two
buildings
they're,
the
both
buildings,
are
designed
as
a
podium
with
a
tower.
Above
so
there's
like
a
six
story:
larger
portion
of
the
building
between
those
buildings
for
the
first
six
storeys
is
a
fairly
narrow
service
alley,
but
but
above
that
levels,
7
through
20,
the
building
the
towers
are
separated
by
about
a
hundred
feet.
A
X
So
facing
Marquette
there
are
four
about
40%
of
the
elevation
on
the
street
level.
There
are
residential
units,
private
residential
units
and
for
the
southern
60%
is
we're
proposing
a
residential
amenity
that
consists
of
what
we're
calling
support
courts
so
racquetball
basketball
and
those
have
those
are
fully
glazed
and
we've
oriented
those
uses
so
that
pedestrians
can
can
see
into
those
uses
granted
they're
not
open
to
the
public,
but
I
think
they
will
provide
some
visual
interest
in
maybe
even
entertainment.
So.
Y
Just
to
point
that,
on
the
plan
here,
there's
a
residential
unit
here
that
turns
the
corner.
Man
turns
the
corner
and
goes
down
Marquette,
and
then
you
have
an
entrance
to
the
exit
to
the
building
there.
And
then
here
is
the
sport
court
areas
where
these
will
be
glazed.
You'll
see
the
activity
within
here
as
people
are
either
in
the
I
think
this
is
a
half-court
and
kind
of
a
racquetball
courts.
A
L
Commissioner
Krauser
just
quickly
on
the
the
variance
setback
from
the
distance.
Often,
if
that
mall
property,
the
North
End
of
Nicollet
mozilla,
it
has
a
slightly
different
character
than
the
south
and
the
mall
for
sure
and
parts
of
the
middle
part
of
the
mall.
So
I
think
this
is
in
keeping
with
the
character
of
the
mall.
At
this
point,
downtown.
K
L
L
Maybe
that
doesn't
matter
but
I
think
that
might
be
in
the
mix
of
trying
to
reduce
the
impact
of
the
opening
to
the
auto
Clark
I'm.
Just
a
couple
of
other
quick
comments:
yes,
I
think
the
building
has
more
love
so
I.
Thank
you
for
making
those
improvements,
and
thank
you
for
not
trying
to
design
a
porte-cochere
on
this
project.
I
think
the
auto
Court
is
the
future.
If
there
needs
to
be
auto
access,
I
think
that's
a
much
more
addition
friendly
building,
better
use
of
land
way
of
providing
auto
service
to
property,
especially
downtown.
A
AB
Afternoon,
prison
Rockland
commissioners,
the
Center
for
Performing
Arts
expansion
is
there,
as
you
saw
in
the
report
there,
the
Center
for
Performing
Arts
is
currently
there
in
their
their
practices
to
help
teach
and
help
provide
a
practice
space
for
multi
disciplinary
arts.
The
proposal
is
a
five-story
addition
on
the
west
side
that
the
goals
of
the
project
are
to
provide
accessibility
for
the
existing
building.
That's
there
as
well
as
provide
more
art,
studio
space,
and
you
saw
the
applications
in
front
of
you.
AB
AB
First,
you
need
two
circumstances
for
the
site
staff
finds
that
one
of
the
main
things
is
the
existence
of
the
1923
convent
building.
That's
here,
which
is
considered
a
historic
resource
and
was
looked
at
as
possibly
being
part
of
a
historic
district
at
for
all
the
four
corners
of
this
intersection
staff
and
in
informal
conversations
with
the
Heritage
Preservation
Commission.
We're
looking
for
the
applicant
to
do
a
building
that
had
a
light
touch
with
the
existing
building
to
give
that
neighboring
the
original
building,
breathing
room
and
not
impact
the
architectural
integrity.
AB
And
we
feel
that
the
applicant
has
done
that
when,
with
that,
when
you
move
the
building
to
the
west,
it's
going
to
limit
the
amount
of
space
that
you
have
for
other
aspects,
such
as
parking
the
applicant.
Even
with
that
said,
the
applicant
has
not
forgotten
about
parking
wholesale
they've.
They
are
proposing
to
really
encourage
the
use
of
alternative
modes
of
transportation
by
providing
bike
parking
by
promoting
the
amount
of
the
transit
spaces
in
the
area
and
also
coordinating
with
surface
parking
lots
that
are
in
the
area.
AB
K
AB
So
staff
does
recognize
that
38th
Street
is
a
relatively
busy
street.
It's
a
community
corridor
and
there's
a
lot
of
activities
in
there.
It's
a
great
place
to
be
with
the
38th
and
grand
commercial
node
and
the
activities
that
are
taking
place
at
30th
and
pleasant,
but
in
talking
with
the
applicant,
their
main
time
of
the
users
coming
to
the
building,
our
weeknights
and
Saturdays
and
later
in
the
day
in
Sundays,
so
that
pairs
well
with
the
other
uses
and
their
intense
and
their
intent
to
use
the
surface
parking
lots
in
the
area.
A
AC
A
AC
Just
thank
you
for
this
process.
I'm
a
long-standing
business
owner
at
that
intersection
and
actually
have
lived
for
15
years
at
the
corner
of
38th
and
pleasant
in
the
top
floor
of
the
Center
for
Performing
Arts,
so
I
feel,
like
the
approach
to
this
project
is
informed
by
time
spent
relationships
developed
in
a
sense
of
what
and
where
the
community
might
want
to
grow.
AC
We've
engaged
in
a
number
of
processes
with
neighbors
the
new
via
the
Neighborhood
Association
and
our
own
initiatives
to
invite
as
much
input
as
we
could
in
the
development
of
the
project,
in
addition
to
the
artist
community,
who
obviously
makes
essential
to
the
process.
So,
in
addition
to
a
kind
of
process
that
invited
ongoing
input,
which
is
informed
where
we
are
today
in
terms
of
design,
sustainability
is
a
very
important
both.
AC
Actually,
both
economic
and
environmental
sustainability
is
a
big
part
of
this
project,
and
not
only
does
the
majority
of
our
folks
who
are
tenants
come
from
the
neighborhood
and
a
number
of
them
are,
you
know,
are
already
biking,
etc.
So
we're
happy
to
extend
what
we
offer
in
terms
of
avenues
for
biking
to
our
facility,
but
we
also
a
big
chunks
of
what
we
do
are
not
even
car
intensive.
So,
for
example,
we
have
an
air
B&B
that
none
of
those
people
have
cars,
they're,
all
lifting
and
etc.
AC
AC
We
have
two
big
parking
lots
across
both
streets
that
are
empty
evenings
and
weekends,
except
for
a
church
on
Sunday,
so
whatever
that
is
Sunday
mornings,
so
we
have
relationships
with
those
two
institutions
to
use
the
pavement
instead
of
creating
additional
pavement,
so
I
think,
based
on
the
feedback
that
I'm
hearing
around
the
parking
I
just
want
to
introduce
the
fact
that
we
are
sensitive
to
it
and
feel
that
we've
done
a
a
project
that
really
addresses
our
expansion
and
what
it
might
do
to
the
intersection.
So
anything
else,
any
questions
thank.
A
AD
AD
through
the
neighborhood
webs,
there's
a
neighborhood
organization
and
I
was
really
distressed,
so
I'm
a
longtime
resident
of
the
King
pealed
neighborhood
I
own,
my
house,
at
36:44,
pleasant
and
in
there
for
a
resident
of
the
neighborhood
adjacent
to
and
would
be
impacted
by,
the
proposed
commercial
expansion
of
the
set
up
Center
for
Performing
Arts,
located
at
38th
and
Pleasant
I
learned
about
this
hearing
last
night
at
10:00
p.m.
I
notice
of
this
hearing
and
the
proposed
CPA
expansion
was
not
included
in
the
most
recently
filled.
AD
That's
been
impacted
by
the
growth
of
for
large
institutions,
including
Lake
County,
School
CPA,
the
Catholic
Church
and
the
Charter
School.
Historically,
these
buildings
served
the
community
in
their
immediate
vicinity
within
walking
distance.
None
of
these
buildings
meet
current
zoning
requirements
for
off
street
parking.
Now
these
buildings
serve
a
broader
community
as
evidence
by
the
parking
pressure
currently
experienced
by
the
residents
along
president
Pleasant
Avenue
between
36
and
38.
AD
Not
only
do
we
have
four
large
institutions
at
the
intersection
where
CPA
is
located,
a
third
resident
restaurant
opened
at
the
adjacent
intersection
and
a
fourth
is
due
to
open
soon,
both
without
off
street
parking.
Have
you
taken
the
time
to
do
a
traffic
assessment
in
this
area
and
observe
how
people
travel
to
and
from
these
institutions?
I
assure
you.
There
are
no
current
shortages
of
bicycle
parking
because
people
don't
rely
on
bicycles
to
come
and
go
to
these
buildings.
Nor
do
they
stand
at
nearby
parking
at
bus
stops.
AD
They
arrive
in
the
belief
by
car.
Yes,
mostly
in
the
evening.
I
see
them
as
I'm
walking
in
the
neighborhood.
I
would
like
to
also
add
that
it
isn't
true
that
the
other
places
don't
do
evening
and
weekends.
The
lake
country
school
has
frequent
evening
events
for
their
children
and
parents,
which
completely
clogged
up
and
remove
accessible
any
accessible
parking
in
the
neighborhood.
AD
The
church
has
events
at
least
every
Wednesday
night,
and
sometimes
they
have
weddings
and
other
events
as
well,
so
in
the
current
state,
during
the
events,
parking
for
homeowners
is
overrun
by
event
attendees.
Otherwise,
parking
is
generally
adequate
until
poor
snow
removal
makes
alleys
inaccessible
when
single
side
parking
is
invoked,
parking
for
residents
is
taken
by
residents
on
Grand
Avenue,
and
that's
enough
parking
does
not
exist.
AD
Do
you
know
the
current
student
and
faculty
headcount,
that
is
vehicle
population
associated
with
Lake
County
or
the
Charter
School,
the
church
or
CPA
I?
Think
it
would
be
important
to
know
what
those
populations
are
in
the
future
state
without
the
CPA
expansion,
but
with
another
restaurant
in
the
original
organic
growth
of
all
four
institutions
to
their
capacity.
I
can
guess
that
the
available
street
parking
will
be
inadequate.
AD
I
estimate
that
the
three
blocks
of
pleasent
that
bear
the
impact
of
this
commercial
expansion
have
a
total
of
a
hundred
and
sixty-eight
parking
spaces
during
fair
weather.
How
many
more
parking
spaces
will
be
needed
when
these
four
institutions
approach
their
current
capacity
to
suggest
that
bicycles
and
transit
can
mitigate
the
impact
of
CPAs
expansion
would
require
evidence
that
the
people
who
arrived
now
can
commute
by
bike
in
transit
year
around
most
bicycles,
don't
work
that
way,
and
especially
when
single
parking
side
parking
is
enforced.
AD
In
other
words,
our
parking
will
be
gone
before
these
people
decide
they
have
to
ride
a
bicycle.
They
will
not
be
impacted
by
the
parking
as
early
as
we
will
be
impacted,
so
we
will
be
both
parking
spots
before
they
decide
to
get
on
a
bus
and
ride
a
bicycle.
I
asked
you
not
to
provide
CPA
with
waivers
that
impact
the
adjacent
home
owners
without
considering
that
zoning
protects
our
interests
and
until
you've
provided
other
means
to
address
and
preserve
them,
let
them
not
be
revoked.
AD
A
AE
My
name
is
Linda
I
own,
a
property
at
3752
grand
avenues,
south
three
hundred
and
fifty
feet
away.
So
I
was
given
a
letter
of
notification
a
week
ago,
I
also
own
a
property
at
3849
Pleasant,
Avenue
South,
for
which
I
did
not
receive
a
notification
which
is
just
down
the
block.
I
lived
in
the
neighborhood
for
35
years.
I
still
have
those
properties
as
single-family
dwellings.
The
one
on
30
out
so
I
have
several
concerns
before
I.
Get
ahead
of
myself
here.
I
have
concerns
about
parking.
AE
I
also
have
concerns
about
the
Historic
Preservation
site
of
of
in
car
nation
and
how
it
will
be
impacted,
and
why
wasn't
the
Performing
Arts
Center
included
on
that
in
2018,
so
in
moving
forward
from
Illinois
I
am
a
Minneapolis
public
school
teacher.
So
I
am
very
concerned
about
the
impact
that
this
massive
building
project
is
going
to
have
on
the
community.
AE
First
of
all,
with
parking,
the
the
parking
is
dense
now
and
is
saturated
I
am
so
glad
that
Miss
Ritter
s'en
covered
the
numbers,
my
rental
property
at
37,
52
grand
we
often
have
to
for
showings.
When
I'm
there
have
to
park
four
blocks
away
in
the
wintertime
with
single
parking.
It
is
always
four
blocks
away.
I
have
to
I
have
a
double
garage.
AE
It
was
suggested
when
I
looked
online,
that
they
were
going
to
use
community
partners
for
the
parking
the
community
partners
are
already
saturated.
I
lived
on
that
block
for
I
lived
in
the
neighborhood
and
on
that
block
for
29
years,
so
they're
already
saturated
they
were
saturated
eight
years
ago
when
I
moved
out
and
the
incarnation
has
gone
to
five
services
now
and
more
events
in
that
church
is
growing.
We
and-
and
we
willingly
parked
blocks
away
when
it
was
a
church
event,
because
it's
why
we
moved
there.
AE
That's
an
iconic,
that's
an
iconic
structure
that
we
were
delighted
to
be
on
the
same
block
as
the
church.
So
there's
the
parking
issue,
I'm
also.
I
also
am
requesting
that
you
do
a
formal
traffic
study
that
there
isn't
just
word
of
mouth
from
the
owner.
I
would
I'm
requesting
that
you
do
due
diligence
to
our
neighborhood
to
the
liveable
Levent
neighborhood
into
a
formal
traffic
study.
AE
I'm
also
concerned
about
the
historic
preservation
of
that
iconic
structure
of
incarnation
Church
when
I
called
neighbors
last
night,
because,
although
I
received
this
a
week
ago,
I
finally
opened
it.
This
week,
I
caught
I
got
an
old
crime
prevention
list
and
called
my
neighbors
and
said:
do
you
know
about
this?
They
did
not
know
about
it
because
they
weren't
350
feet
away.
They
were
a
little
further,
but
yet
their
lives
will
be
severely
impacted
by
that.
AE
So
that
I,
think
your
measure
of
350
feet
for
due
diligence
should
include
several
blocks
because
of
those
massive
structures.
They
knew
nothing
about
this
public
meeting
at
all,
I'm,
also
requesting
that
you
reopen
the
question
of
eligibility
on
the
property
as
part
of
the
incarnation
historic
district.
The
Performing
Arts
Center
is
the
1923
convent
associated
with
the
entire
complex
of
the
Incarnation
historic
district.
A
2005
study
did
include
the
convent
within
the
potential
district,
but
it
was
excluded
in
2018
for
very
unclear
reasons.
AE
The
concerns
just
briefly
changing
the
view
shed
of
the
area
right
now,
the
neighborhood's
known
for
the
view
shed
of
that
iconic
incarnation
Church
and
this
structure
I'm
not
sure
we'll
be
as
high,
but
it's
certainly
going
to
loom
over
everything
else.
The
project
was
set
a
precedent
for
allowing
sewing
zoning
variances
for
higher
and
more
dense
development,
so
you're
studying
a
precedence
here
in
the
king
field,
neighborhood
and
I
know.
You
know
that
you
changed
neighborhoods
by
your
decisions.
You
change
the
livability
Kingfield
is
a
very
livable
neighborhood,
so
I
think
I'm
done.
Z
This
permit
to
be
denied,
and
these
five
variances
ought
to
be
denied.
First
of
all,
I
live
less
than
a
block
from
this
proposed
expansion
and
I
was
not
notified,
and
a
couple
to
three
neighbors
I
talked
to
today.
Less
than
a
block
away,
we're
not
notified
in
the
variance
is
to
increase
the
height
from
four
storeys
56
feet
to
five
storeys
55
feet.
I
have
a
picture
of
the
building.
It
looks
like
three
stories
to
me:
I,
don't
know,
maybe
they
count
the
basement.
Z
Today
there
was
no
parking
on
that
street
I
took
this
this
morning.
There
are
six
parking
spaces
behind
the
current
building
and
in
a
garage
as
well,
and
what
I
actually
I
beg
you
to
to
consider
is
the
bird's
eye
view
of
our
neighborhood
in
the
last
few
years
in
carnation
church,
which
is
kitty-corner
from
the
proposed
expansion,
has
added
three
new
masses,
including
Saturday
masses
and
Sunday
Masses
Hiawatha
prep
school
across
the
street.
Has
expanded
their
enrollment
and
there's
buses
every
morning
out
in
front
of
our
house
idling
the
diesel
buses
in
the
morning.
Z
There's
anyway,
the
bird's-eye
view
of
the
Hiawatha
prep
is
expanded.
Lake
Country
School
has
expanded.
Lake
Country
school
closes
their
parking
lots
in
the
afternoon
for
the
safety
of
the
children.
That's
how
bad
the
traffic
is
there.
The
Grand
Cafe
is
is
a
former
grand
bakery
has
no
parking
the
Pizza
Cafe.
That
opening
is
no
parking,
the
tap
is
Cafe
has
no
parking
and
the
the
main
thing
is
that
that
doesn't
make
any
sense.
Z
J
J
Ya,
my
question
for
you
is
looking
at
these
land
use
applications.
We
have
to
run
the
items
specifically
before
us
and
you
listed
a
lot
of
very
interesting
facts,
but
can
you
and
other
speakers
specifically
tie
them
to
the
specific
applications
in
front
of
us?
We
have
one
conditional
use,
permit
one
site
plan
review
and
six
variances
and
I'm
hearing
and
I
want
you
to
clarify.
If
I'm
misunderstanding
is
that
you
were
the
variances
and
the
and
the
the
things
I'm
hearing
are.
Perhaps
you
have
concerns
with
the
COP
in
regard
to
the
height?
Z
J
Because
we
define
height
by
both
number
of
storeys
and
feet,
and
sometimes
a
story
exceeds
a
thing,
so
it
can
be
a
shorter
height
would
be
another
story,
so
so
just
to
clarify,
and
then
also
it
sounded
to
me
as
though
you
and
some
of
your
neighbors
have
concerns
about
variance
II,
which
is
in
regard
to
parking
right,
correct,
okay
and
then,
in
regard
to
the
other
variant
sister
post,
though
B
C,
D,
F
and
the
site
plan
G.
Do
you
have
concerns
about
those
as
well
I.
A
AF
Hello
good
evening,
president
and
commissioners,
I
am
I,
understand
I,
am
the
son
of
Linda
OTT
I'm,
also
a
preservation,
professional,
so
I'm
just
sort
of
curious
about
some
of
the
process
stuff
that
happened
here
so
I
have
a
question,
particularly
before
I
get
going
for
a
parent.
Is
the
Preservation
Commission
currently
reviewing
these
projects
these
projects,
or
is
it
sort
of
been
excluded.
A
AF
My
my
concern
is
that
essentially,
my
understanding
is
that
in
2005,
this
project
with
this
area
was
studies
law,
as
well
as
most
of
southwestern
Minneapolis
and
five
buildings
at
incarnation.
Church
area,
where
identified
as
a
potential
heritage
or
potential
historic
district
within
the
city
of
Minneapolis,
on
criteria
for
I,
believe
for
architecture
and
then
in
2018
that
there
was
sort
of
conversation
about
this,
but
I
have
not
seen
something
formally
about
how
this
list
occurred.
AF
We're
not
happy
about,
and
so
you
ask
to
be
excluded,
and
so
I
would
I
would
ask
that
the
the
entire
project
area,
this
building
in
particular,
be
included
if
in
that
district,
and
that
everything
involved
in
this
project
should
be
heard
before
the
Heritage
Commission
as
well,
because
while
historic
preservation
is
is
inconvenient,
preservation
law
is
not
about
convenience.
It
is
about
protecting
those
things
which
provide
us
a
sense
of
orientation
in
the
communities
which
we
live.
It
is
about
providing
a
sense
of
the
past
and
who
we
are
if
we
were.
AF
This
project
takes
those
concerns
into
account.
I
would
further
note
the
irony
of
an
Arts
Center,
overlooking
and
brushing
by
historic
preservation
as
arts
and
culture
in
history.
History
go
hand
in
hand
as
things
that
provide
a
sense
of
meaning
to
the
American
people
and
the
people
of
Minneapolis
in
particular,
and
with
that.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
time.
Thank.
A
AB
Just
touching
one
portion
of
that
wall
and
again
they
I
know
that
the
applicant
has
looked
to
respect
the
existing
building
in
the
area
by
keeping
this
as
far
away
as
possible
from
the
district
and
the
building
and
at
adding
more
art
space,
as
well
as
making
the
existing
building
accessible,
are
important
elements
of
the
project.
Thank.
J
AB
AB
J
And
then
just
really
quick
I,
don't
know
if
you
know
this
or
not,
but
in
going
hand-in-hand
with
establishing
district,
usually
we
establish
guidelines
for
the
district.
Do
you
know
of
the
guidelines
for
the
established
district
that
I
assume
are
then
adjacent
to
this
building
who
dealt
with
the
exterior
building
materials
of
the
facilities
in
the
district,
or
they
were
related
other
means
and
methods,
I.
Don't.
B
AB
Nestling
had
anything
that
I
missed
here,
but
within
two
weeks
of
I.
Let
me
back
up
approximately
three
weeks
from
the
time
that
a
project
is
coming
to
you
to
the
Commission
unnoticed
goes
to
the
Neighborhood
Association
and
then
possibly
ten
days
to
two
weeks
is
when
notices
are
sent
out
to
the
neighboring
property
owners
within
350
feet.
AB
I
know,
in
addition
to
that,
I
know
that
the
applicant
and-
and
they
explained
the
outreach
that
they
have
done
over
the
last
six
months
for
this
project,
including
charettes,
including
incorporating
getting
feedback
from
artists
in
the
area
and
a
number
of
the
emails
and
conversations
I've
had
with
the
Neighborhood
Association
and
members
on
the
Association,
including
one
who's.
A
heritage
preservation,
commissioner,
makes
me
realize
that
the
applicant
has
done
those
things
that
they
have
mentioned
of
reaching
out
to
interested
parties
as
much
as
they
could.
A
J
J
B
L
A
I
C
A
L
K
I
K
A
L
Yeah,
just
a
couple
of
comments
about
the
overall
project,
I
I
do
think
this
is
a
sensitive
addition
to
a
not
really
officially
historic,
building.
It's
a
very
nice
old
building,
that's
at
an
intersection,
a
collection
of
very
nice
old
buildings,
including
some
that
within
a
historic
district
I,
actually
trying
to
imagine
an
addition
to
an
historic
building.
That's
better
than
this,
because
this
is
a
very
sense
of
addition
to
this
to
this
three-story,
brick
building.
L
A
That
finds
a
way
to
allow
neighborhood
to
evolve.
I'm
very
familiar
with
this
neighborhood
I
live
in
this
neighborhood
Pillsbury
intently
at
country
school,
and
they
went
to
Jess
camp
at
the
Center
for
Performing
Arts,
so
I
know
this
intersection
very
well
and
I
think
that
this
is
a
great
addition
and
and
the
evolution
of
this
neighbor
this
intersection
over
the
last
decades,
I
think
has
shown
how
this
kind
of
urban
infill
business
in
Fell's
really
a
positive
in
the
community.