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From YouTube: June 3, 2019 City Planning Commission
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A
Are
you
good
afternoon
I
called
order
the
June,
2nd
2019
regular
meeting
of
the
May
amplest
Planning
Commission?
My
name
is
ELISA
lucky
Pierre
I'm
vice-president,
but
we
asked
acting
as
chair
for
today's
meeting.
I
am
joined
by
commissioners,
cron,
xur,
Olsen,
Schrader
and
brown
at
this
time
be
sure
to
turn
off
your
pager
cell
phones
and
all
other
electronic
devices.
A
B
A
A
I'll
go
through
the
agenda
and
start
out
what
items
will
be
continued
to
a
future
meeting
which
items
be
withdrawn
and
which
items
will
be
discussed
and
which
items
will
be
put
on
the
consent
agenda
to
be
approved,
as
recommended
so
item
number
1
is
Penn
Avenue
Union,
located
at
2200
Golden
Valley
Road
1911
through
1915
Penn,
Avenue,
North
1906
to
1914
Queen,
Avenue
North.
The
staff
recommendation
is
approval
on
this
item.
A
We
will
is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
on
this
item,
seeing
no
one
I'll
move
that
to
the
consent
agenda.
Our
next
item
would
be
the
Midtown
inside-in
over
to
Midtown
corner
29:13
and
2940
126
Avenue
South
and
2912
28th
Avenue
South.
This
also
is
recommended
for
approval
on
consent.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
in
opposition
to
staff
recommendation
on
this
item
singing?
No?
No
that
also
to
the
consent
agenda.
A
The
third
item
is
Malcolm
Yards
phase
1,
which
is
located
at
4:45
Malcolm
Avenue
southeast
419
through
504
29th,
Avenue,
southeast
and
501
30th
Avenue
southeast.
That
is
also
recommended
for
approval.
Is
there
anyone
here
wishing
to
speak
in
opposition
to
staff
recommendation
on
that
item,
seeing
none
that
move
it
to
the
consent
agenda?
Item
number
4?
Is
the
First
Unitarian
k12
school
located
at
900
Mount
curve
Avenue
there
are
two
land
use.
Applications
and
staff
recommends
approval
on
both.
A
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
in
opposition
to
staff
recommendation
one
person
so
we'll
pull
that
from
the
consent
agenda
for
discussion?
The
fifth
item
is
located
at
3443
Lyndale
Avenue
south
there
are
seven
land
use
applications
and
that
will
be
discussed
tonight.
Item
number
six
is
28:12
Fremont
Avenue
South
that
is
recommended
for
approval.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
in
opposition
to
staff
recommendation
on
item
number
six,
one
person?
Ok,
we'll
pull
that
to
be
discussed.
Item
number
7.
A
It's
a
Nokomis
mixed-use
development
at
47,
15,
Cedar,
Avenue,
South
and
47
12
Longfellow
Avenue.
There
are
four
land
use
applications
we'll
be
discussing.
That
item
tonight.
Item
number
8
is
311,
2nd,
Avenue
South
East
and
we
will
be
discussing
those
three
applications
as
well,
and
the
last
item
on
the
agenda
is
item
number
nine.
It's
a
zoning
code
text,
amendment
for
all
Ward's
amending
titles,
20
chapters,
5
25,
35,
48,
549,
550
and
551.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
in
opposition
to
that
text?
A
A
D
A
Sorry
jump
to
the
agenda
here
a
little
bit
back
up
a
second
I'm.
Sorry,
we're
gonna
actually
discuss
real,
quick,
the
community.
The
whole
consent
agenda,
as
chairperson
of
the
committee
I,
will
now
present
the
consent
agenda
from
the
may.
16
20
may
the
whole
meeting.
We
have
one
item
and
that
may
have
a
motion
to
find
the
land
sale
of
2120
Aldrich
Avenue
North,
to
be
consistent
with
Minneapolis
plan.
E
A
Is
there
a
second
all
in
favor
post,
all
right
that
is
approved
all
right?
We
have
no
action
items
today.
Well
now
open
the
public
hearing.
The
process
for
the
public
hearing
is
as
follows.
First,
we
lacked
on
any
items
that
are
being
continued
and
then
will
act
on
the
consent
agenda
items
on
there
aren't
any
continued
tonight,
though,
once
the
items
on
consent
agenda
have
been
approved,
the
Planning
Commission
is
done
with
those
and
applicants
may
contact
staff
outside
in
the
hallway
or
talk
about
them
tomorrow
about
next
steps.
A
After
that,
we
take
the
remaining
agenda
items
in
order.
If
it's
your
first
public
hearing,
here's
how
this
goes
down,
we
allow
the
planning
staff
to
present
the
application
and
commissioners
can
ask
questions
of
the
staff.
Then
we
hear
from
the
applicant
and
after
that
we
open
the
hearing
to
public
comment,
come
to
the
microphone
state,
your
name
and
address
for
the
public
record
and
make
sure
you
sign
up
in
the
hallway.
You
don't
have
to
do
it
now,
although
you
can
but
make
sure
before
you
leave
you
do
that
all
right.
A
Please
keep
your
comments
specific
to
the
applications
before
us
today
and
after
public
comments
are
complete,
I'll,
close
the
public
hearings
and
we
will
deliberate
and
act
on
the
applications.
So
I
will
now
open
the
public
hearing
on
the
consent
agenda
items.
One
last
time
is
there.
Anybody
here
for
items
are
one
two,
three
and
nine
seeing
none
I'll
close
the
public
hearing
on
that
may
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
staff
recommendation
and
findings
for
those
items.
A
Is
there
a
second,
it's
moved
in
second,
a
discussion
on
favor,
say:
aye,
nay,
any
sentients,
all
right.
Those
items
are
approved,
as
recommended
by
staff,
and
thank
you
for
coming
down
for
those
items.
Now
we'll
go
to
our
first
item
for
discussion,
which
is
item
number
for
the
First
Unitarian
k12
school
at
900
mount
curve
Avenue.
We
have
two
applications
for
the
same.
F
Good
afternoon
planning
commission
Shanna's
Heather
I'm,
presenting
on
behalf
of
Lindsay
silence
the
subject
property
for
item
number
forest
located
at
900
mount
curve
Avenue.
So
the
First
Unitarian
K
through
12
school,
is
the
its
conditional
use
permit
to
allow
for
a
new
K
through
12
school
in
the
our
two
district
and
the
variance
to
reduce
the
minimum
off
street
parking
from
four
spaces
to
zero.
F
Here's
an
existing
site
plan
showing
the
existing
three-story
structure.
It's
about
thirty
thousand
square
feet
in
area.
There
is
no
off
street
parking
currently
provided
for
the
existing
structure
staff
would
consider
the
building
to
have
non-conforming
rights
for
the
existing
use.
It's
the
change
in
use
that
requires
the
additional
four
spaces
planned
parking.
F
The
building
is
used
by
the
First
Unitarian
society.
The
building
has
an
education
wing
with
seven
classrooms
that
were
previously
used
for
a
child
care
facility,
but,
as
previously
noted,
the
change
in
use
Tukey
through
12
school,
where
ninth
and
10th
graders
will
be
present
at
site.
The
enrollment
is
projected
at
95
students.
That's
why
the
increase
of
off
street
parking
for
spaces
beyond
what
was
there
previously
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
the
conditional
use,
permit
and
variance
to
reduce
the
off
street
parking.
F
In
this
case,
there
were
no
changes
as
part
of
the
proposed
project.
It's
always
been
used
as
kind
of
an
educational
component
within
the
existing
structure.
Any
sort
of
additional
requirements
through
the
through
construction
code
services
will
be
required.
Therefore,
staff
does
not
feel
as
though
the
additional
students
or
classrooms
would
be
detrimental
to
the
public,
health,
safety,
comfort
or
general
welfare.
As
far
as
traffic
goes,
adequate
measurements
have
been
taken
to
reduce
or
minimize
traffic
congestion
of
public
streets.
Most
of
the
students
enrolled
will
take
the
city
bus
according
to
the
applicant.
F
The
route
6
Metro
Transit
is
only
one
stop
away
or
excuse
me,
one
block
away
and
there
will
be
vehicle
drop-off
also
for
parents
that
are
dropping
off.
The
school
is
also
working
on
establishing
a
parking
agreement
with
a
nearby
parking
garage
for
both
staff
and
student
parking
staff,
notes,
land
use
policies
and
urban
design
policies
that
are
consistent
with
a
comprehensive
plan
and
that
the
use
complies
with
all
other
requirements
and
are
to
district.
F
So,
as
previously
noted,
it's
a
new
K
through
12
charter
school
for
specifically
for
9th
and
10th
graders
staff
finds
that
practical
difficulties
exist
in
reducing
the
off
street
parking
requirement
from
four
to
zero
that
are
unique
to
the
property,
because
there
are
no
good
options
for
providing
off
street
parking
on
the
subject.
Property
and
four
spaces
could
be
easily
provided
through
it.
An
alternative
means,
as
I've
just
described
so
with
that
staff,
is
recommending
approval.
A
G
Hello,
my
name
is
Timothy
rail
and
I.
Am
the
representative
for
the
First
Unitarian
society
at
900
Mount
curve.
The
building
was
built
in
Minneapolis
in
1949,
we've
been
there
for
70
years.
In
the
last
70
years,
we
have
always
had
either
a
daycare
or
a
school
or
some
sort
of
other
thing
happening
in
the
building.
It's
never
been
full
Church
and
child
garden.
Daycare
was
there
for
about
50
years
before
they're.
Ever
these
sorts
of
rules
needed
they
left
in
2014
and
actually
a
we
did
have
a
a
K
through
12
school.
G
In
there
we
know
we
needed
a
permit
anyway.
So
now
a
new
school
is
is
moving
in
and
we
are
asking
for
this
conditional
use
permit
in
the
whole
time
that
we've
had
these
various
institutions
there.
Over
the
last
seven
years,
we've
not
had
any
issues
as
far
as
complaints
with
educational
things
happening
on
the
site.
It's
a
the
same
on
a
space
will
be
used
that
we
had.
G
The
daycare
in
is
gonna,
be
seven
classrooms,
the
there's
a
parking
drop-off
cut
out
that
exists,
that's
been
there
for
decades
and
is
still
there,
and
so
we
really
would
appreciate
the
ability
to
keep
our
building
use
the
same
as
it
has
been
basically
for
the
last
70
years,
which
is
to
be
a
educational
institution
for
these
students
and
folks
of
Minneapolis
and
surrounding
areas.
Any
questions.
G
G
They
could
respond
such
a
reasonable
price,
but
really
it
we're
talking
about
four
cars
here.
To
make
name
is
legit,
and
these
are
10th
grade.
Kids,
I,
guess
the
the
thought
is
that
all
the
10th
graders
can
drive
at
the
beginning
of
school,
which
they
really
can't
and
so
yeah.
It's
the
four
spots
that
we're
talking
about
and
in
the
Walker
lot
is
the
street
or
the
lot
we're
talking
about.
A
I
My
name
is
Jen
Kitchener
and
live
at
8:08
Mill
curve,
which
is
two
doors
down
from
the
church.
I
just
received
a
letter.
This
is
the
first
I've
actually
heard
of
the
school
going
in
there.
The
Unitarian
Church
has
been
a
great
neighbor.
I
have
no
issue
with
that.
My
main
concern
is
about
the
parking
and
the
traffic
mount
curve
is
a
one-way,
very
narrow
street,
at
least
on
where
I
live
and
I
know
that
there's
another
street
below
Oak,
Grove
I
think
it
is.
That
goes
to
the
other
entrance
of
the
church.
I
So
my
main
concern
is
how
this
traffic
to
the
school
will
affect
my
curve,
not
as
much
concerned
about
traffic
on
Oak
Grove,
which
is
a
little
busier
Street.
But
if
there's
a
lot
of
traffic
coming
on
Mount
curve,
it's
already
very
difficult
to
find
parking
in
that
area.
It's
permit
parking
only
and
it's
a
we
have
only
one
garage
at
our
place
and
it's
always
difficult
to
find
street
parking.
I
So
that's
why
my
main
concern
is
about
where
the
cars
are
going
to
go
and
how
the
traffic
is
going
to
impact
us
where
we
live
and
I
know.
I've
talked
to
my
neighbors.
They
have
the
same
concerns
so
I'm
sort
of
representing
all
of
us
who
live
along
that
little
stretch
of
remote
curve.
Next
to
a
church,
there.
I
Mean
it
would
be
in
not
only
in
general
but
but
also
people
if
they're
going
to
use
my
curve
to
drop
off
their
kids,
that's
going
to
increase
the
amount
of
traffic
going
by
where
we
live
and
it's
already
very
congested
and
very
narrow
street.
So
I
just
my
question
really
is:
what
plan
is
there
for
getting
those
kids
to
school?
Not
all
of
them
are
gonna.
Take
the
bus,
I'm
sure
some
parents
will
drop
them
off
and
there
may
be
some
kids
who
want
to
drive
when
they
get
to
that
age.
A
A
H
H
J
Just
address
the
test-fires
comment:
I
do
think
in
general.
It's
fair
for
schools
and
residential
areas
to
you
know,
look
at
a
drop-off
plan,
since
there
often
are
many
vehicles
arriving
at
at
once,
whether
it's
you
know
reserving
a
certain
amount
of
space
in
front
of
the
people
in
front
of
the
building
signing
it
appropriately
I'm,
not
quite
comfortable
placing
a
condition
on
this.
K
L
M
E
A
A
A
N
N
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
rezone
the
property
to
r5
in
order
to
construct
a
new
residential
building
with
19
welling
units.
You
can
see
here
on
the
zoning
map.
Some
of
the
context.
The
site
is
located
close
to
the
corner
adjacent
to
a
small
commercial
building,
and
then
it's
a
mix
of
RFI
of
RTP
and
commercial
zoning
in
the
general
area.
This
is
a
map
that
shows
some
of
the
land
use
features
the
comprehensive
plans,
future
land
use
map
I
just
wanted
to
provide
some
context
for
how
staff
analyzed
the
project.
N
N
On
the
survey
you
can
see
the
existing
single-family
home
there's
an
additional
single-family
home
immediately
immediately
to
the
north
and
then
that
one-story
commercial
building
immediately
to
the
south.
So
again,
it's
a
four
story.
Nineteen
unit
building,
all
the
units
are
efficiency
units
and
this
is
a
rendering
showing
the
view
of
the
structure
from
the
front
on
the
Dale
Avenue.
And
then
this
is
a
view
of
the
site
with
the
new
proposed
structure
and
then
some
photographs
of
the
existing
conditions.
N
N
The
applicant
is
also
requesting
in
FA
our
variance
to
increase
the
maximum
fer
from
2
to
2.38
and
then,
of
course,
the
site
plan
review
application.
This
is
the
first
floor
plan
that
shows
how
the
ground
floor
is
laid
out.
So
there's
a
principal
entrance
to
the
residences
along
window
and
the
principal
entrance
at
the
rear.
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
provide
enclosed
bike
storage
on-site,
which
is
accessed
via
side
door
along
the
north
building
wall,
and
then
the
applicant
is
not
proposing
to
provide
any
vehicle
parking
on
site.
N
The
project
does
not
have
a
minimum
vehicle
parking
requirement
due
to
its
location
in
close
proximity
to
high
frequency
transit,
and
then
this
is
the
landscape
plan
showing
a
concrete
patio
in
the
front
yard.
We've
analyzed
that
patio
as
a
part
of
the
front
yard,
variance
as
it
does
exceed
the
maximum
size
for
a
patio,
felt
that
in
a
community
corridor
context,
it
was
not
inappropriate
for
that
location.
Although
we
have
asked
that
the
applicant
modify
the
fence
design
to
comply
with
zoning
regulations
for
fence
height
shadow
studies,
showing
the
shadowing
impacts
of
the
project.
N
So,
as
you
can
imagine
going
from
a
single-family
home
to
a
four-story
apartment
building,
there
will
be
additional
shadowing
impacts,
especially
to
properties
to
the
north.
Those
are
most
pronounced
during
winter
months
and
then
during
the
shoulder.
Seasons
and
summer
are
primarily
limited
to
the
property
immediately
to
the
north
and
then
elevations
that
show
the
exterior
material
pallets,
which
includes
a
wood
grain
metal
panel
and
a
vertical
metal
panel
staff
has
suggested
a
condition
of
approval
that
the
applicant
implements
a
masonry
product
at
the
base
of
the
structure
to
protect
against
weathering
and
other
effects.
N
H
A
Peter
I
need
some
questions.
Do
you
happen
to
know
how
wide
the
alley
is.
A
N
Trash
enclosure
enclosure
is
right
up
against
the
rear
property
lines,
so
the
applicants
designed
it
such
that
there
wouldn't
be
any
out
swinging
doors
or
any
other
equipment
that
interferes
with
the
public
right-of-way,
so
it's
actually
accessed
from
the
north
and
then
with
sliding
doors
from
the
alley.
Oh.
N
N
Mm
that's
difficult
to
say:
the
2040
plan
is
not
yet
in
effect,
but
it
is.
It
is
guiding
the
site's
currently
for
the
corridor
for
district,
which
has
a
maximum
height
limit
of
4
storeys.
There's
a
lot
of
details
to
be
worked
out
in
terms
of
what
setback
requirements
would
be
and
lot
coverage,
and
things
like
that.
So
I
can't
really
say
what
the
applications
would
be
required.
A
R
R
A
R
S
A
T
Hi,
my
name
is
Ralph
fatigue
Goodwin,
the
third
I
live
at
34,
23,
Lyndale,
Avenue,
South
and
I
want
to
speak
to
both
the
land-use
changes
and
the
various
requests.
I
sent
a
letter
to
the
Commission,
so
hopefully
you've
seen
it
since
I
wrote
that
letter.
My
understanding
of
some
of
this
has
has
evolved.
I
understand
now
that,
for
example,
the
comprehensive
plan
that's
in
play
is
a
Minneapolis
plan
for
a
sustainable
growth
and,
as
I
understand
it,
the
2040
plan
has
nothing
to
do
with
decisions
that
are
made
today.
T
First
I
am
supportive
of
higher
housing
density
and
potentially
supportive
of
this
land
use
re-designation
to
r5.
However,
I
have
significant
concerns
about
the
reasoning
that
the
city
planner
has
used
in
leading
to
his
recommendation.
I,
don't
think
he
actually
explicitly
said
before
you
that
he
has
recommended.
T
You
know
these
land-use
approving
these
land
use
changes
and
the
variances.
Nevertheless,
first
the
dwelling
units
per
acre
for
this
property
would
be
a
hundred
and
fifty
one
the
he
cites
that
that
typical
in
this
area
is
forty
to
94
according
to
to
to
the
Minneapolis
plan
for
sustainable
growth
for
our
community
corridor.
Twenty
to
fifty
dwelling
units
per
acre
is
typical
in
in
responding
to
the
the
notion
of
whether
or
not
there
has
been
a
change
in
character
or
trend
of
developments
in
the
general
area
of
the
property
in
question.
Mr.
T
Crandall
observes
that
the
the
that
there
have
been
several
developments,
that
is
to
say
multifamily
mixed-use
projects
along
the
LenDale
community
corridor,
and
then
you
notice
that
these
are
our
north
of
this
project.
Well,
in
fact,
they
are
north
of
lake
they're,
north
of
31st,
Street
and
lyndale
north
of
31st.
Street
is
not
a
community
corridor,
but
it's
a
commercial
corridor
and
on
commercial
corridors
there
are
higher
dwelling
unit
per
acre
guidance.
So
I
think
this
is
a
non
representative
example.
Example
that
was
cited.
T
Secondly,
and
in
arguing
for
this
land
use,
you
know
change
the
city
planner
sites,
us
one
point:
nine
point:
six
of
the
land
use
policy
which
says
to
promote
more
intense
residential
development
along
community
corridors
near
intersections
with
neighborhood
commercial
nodes
or
other
locations
where
it
is
compatible
with
existing
character.
I
think
that's,
that's
arguably
correct.
The
commercial
node
is
about
a
block
away.
However,
he
ignores
one
point.
Nine
point:
five,
which
says:
encourage
the
development
of
low
to
medium
density,
housing
on
community
corridors,
to
serve
as
transitions
to
surrounding
low-density
areas
and
I.
E
T
Well,
I
would
argue
that
every
one
eight
acre
site
in
Minneapolis
would
have
the
problems
that
this
project
has
trying
to
put
this
building
on
Nathe
of
an
acre.
So
it's
not
unique
to
this
property.
The
second
is,
the
unique
circumstances
are
not
created
by
persons
presently
having
an
interest
in
the
property.
Well,
I
think
these
were
explicitly
created
by
the
developer,
wanting
to
put
a
19
unit,
building
on
an
eighth
of
an
acre
property
and,
and
then
the
the
the
third
part
of
this.
T
This
first
criteria
is
that-
and
these
are
not
based
on
economic
considerations
alone.
Last
Monday
night
at
the
LenDale
Neighborhood
Association,
which
was
attended
by
about
40
people,
I
asked
Alex
Brogan.
If
the
variance
requests
were
largely
driven
by
economic
considerations
of
the
project-
and
he
said
yes
in
front
of
40
people,
so
I
think
just
based
on
that
alone,
each
of
these
variants
is,
irrespective
of
what's
being
asked,
have
to
be
denied.
T
The
second
finding
is
that
the
property
owner
or
authorized
applicant
proposes
use
the
property
in
a
reasonable
plan
or
they'll
be
keeping
in
keeping
with
the
spirit
and
intent
of
the
ordinance
and
the
Comprehensive
Plan.
Well,
I.
Think
151
dwelling
units
per
acre
is
not
in
keeping
with
the
intent
or
spirit
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
T
I
really
don't
want
to
speak
to
each
of
the
variances,
but
I
will
speak
to
the
floor
area
ratio
increase,
request
from
2.0
to
2.38
and
the
city
planner
notes
that
if
enclosed
parking
is
provided,
then
a
variance
from
2.0
to
2.38
is
allowed.
This
developer
is
proposing
no
parking
and
I
see.
No
reason,
therefore,
that
he
should
be
the
beneficiary
of
an
economically
beneficial
increase
in
the
in
the
FAO
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
it
does.
A
U
Name
is
John
Meegan
I'm,
a
I
live
in
lyndale
on
32:28
Harriet,
Avenue,
South,
I,
also
own
property
at
31st
and
lyndale,
where
I've
had
a
business
there
for
20
years
number.
One
I
would
just
like
to
speak
to
the
precedent
that
this
project
sets.
As
was
said,
every
single
house
in
a
residential,
non-commercial
corridor
along
lyndale
would
then
become
fair
game
for
any
developer,
who
says
I
can
put
down
$300,000
and
then
the
cost
of
tearing
this
property
down
and
build
these
odd
infinitum.
U
He
said
at
the
meeting
that
he
couldn't
make
any
changes
to
this
plan.
If
there
was
to
be
negotiation
between
the
neighborhood,
the
residents
nearby
without
he
would
infect
his
profit,
no
changes
he
said
would
be
allowed.
We
have
dealt
with
other
developers
putting
large
projects
in
lyndale
who
have
made
concessions
regarding
height
in
a
way
trying
to
mitigate
the
effects
that
putting
up
a
legitimate
project
would
create.
U
I
would
ask
that
everybody
who's
on
a
planning
committee
like
this
not
be
allowed
to
vote
unless
they
stood
in
front
of
a
site
like
this
and
saw
it
and
said
if
this
was
going
to
happen
next
to
my
property.
How
would
I
feel
how
would
I
respond?
Would
this
seem
right
to
me
to
make
these
kind
of
a
judgments
when
you
see
pictures
of
a
building
without
stepping
back
and
seeing?
This
is
the
property
to
the
north,
and
this
is
the
property
to
the
south
is
not
an
informed
decision.
U
You
know
to
make
those
kind
of
judgments
that
will
affect
other
people's
lives.
It
just
doesn't
seem
right
to
me
same
thing
for
city
council
you're
gonna.
Do
it
I
would
like
to
ask
Andreea
Jenkins
if
this
happened
next
to
your
house?
How
would
you
respond
to
it?
Would
it
seem
right
in
the
middle
of
a
block
like
this.
U
There
are
many
more
appropriate
sites
where
you
could
take
empty
lots
that
have
sat
vacant
where
I
am
at
Lynn
Lake.
There
are
properties
that
have
been
sitting
fallow
for
20
to
25
years,
with
no
activity
whatsoever
where
these
kind
of
projects
would
seem
eminently
suited
to
be
put
in.
There
are
also
buildings
where
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
tear
them
down,
but
right
now,
single-family
homes
are
the
most
sought-after
properties
in
the
real
estate
market
at
entry
level.
U
U
Last
but
not
least,
to
do
an
end
run
to
pull
a
project
like
this
and
bring
it
to
City
Planning
staff
and
ask
them
for
their
recommendations
on
variances
before
they've
even
spoke
to
adjacent
property
owners
and
given
a
neighborhood
a
chance
to
ask
questions.
That
seems
very
inappropriate.
This
is
a
process
that
has
circumvented
going
through
a
community
and
most
of
the
people,
who
maybe
thought
that
2040
plan
meant
that
triplexes
were
the
maximum
development
that
would
but
now
they're,
seeing
that
this
isn't
the
case.
U
V
Yep
34
44
Garfield.
Thank
you
we're
directly
across
the
alley
from
this
property
I'm
here
today
to
talk
about
density
of
our
current
neighborhood
and
because
we've
got
such
a
wide
variety
of
types
of
housing.
So
I
used
the
city
map
I.
Think.
Can
you
see
that
on
the
screen?
Oh
okay,
it's
a
350
foot
radius.
V
So
I
did
a
lot
of
research
and
I
came
up
with
numbers,
so
I
want
to
go
through
those
with
you.
We
have
one
church,
one
office.
Building
that
houses
three
different
spaces.
We
have
three
businesses,
we
have
14
duplexes
and
the
duplexes.
When
counting
the
number
of
rental
units,
I
decided
to
do
the
benefit
of
the
doubt
and
I
figured
14
rental
and
where
they
were
all
owner
occupied,
I'm
nervous.
V
V
So
now
we
want
to
add
19
more
rental
units
to
that
to
drive
it
up
to
115,
and
our
neighborhood
cannot
withstand
that
big
of
an
increase
we're
already
densely
populated
Alex,
had
mentioned
in
a
meeting
that
he
thinks
all
the
millenials
will
be
renting
in
here,
and
we
asked
about
cars
and
parking.
Well,
they
all
use
uber
and
they
all
use
the
transit
system.
Yes,
they
use
it,
but
they
also
have
cars
and
there's
no
parking
at
all
with
this.
V
The
other
thing
I
want
to
mention
I
did
a
previous
email
that
I
stated
some
things
that
are
a
little
different
than
this
I.
Don't
think
two
dumpsters.
It
is
enough
for
that
many
units.
We
live
next
to
a
unit
right
now
that
has
11
units
and
two
dumpsters.
It's
consistently
overflowing,
so
I
see
issues
there
and
I,
don't
feel
that
neighbors
should
have
to
police
that
apartment
building
and
call
the
owner
who
is
not
living
on
the
property,
and
he
also
has
no
intention
of
having
a
caretaker
and
the
premises.
A
S
S
S
S
S
S
A
K
My
name
is
Kerri
Swanson
and
I
am
the
mother
to
rinoa
and
live
at
three
three
four:
three:
nine
Lyndale
Avenue
South,
my
husband
and
I,
purchased
our
home
34:39
Lyndale
Avenue
south
on
June
25th
1999
from
an
estate
our
home
has
our
home
had
a
significant
amount
of
deferred
maintenance
and
necessary
updating
that
we've
addressed
over
the
years.
With
each
improvement,
we
could
feel
her
home
stand
a
little
taller
and
a
little
more
proud.
K
Most
of
our
work
has
been
on
the
interior
of
our
home
and
has
just
started,
and
we've
just
started
to
focus
our
efforts
on
the
exterior
media
Eric
and
our
four
children
live
at
the
home
directly
north
of
3443
Lyndale
Avenue
South,
the
property
Alex
broke
Ulrika
recently
purchased
with
the
intent
to
redevelop.
As
you
can
imagine,
I
have
many
concerns
about
this
project
and
the
excessive
number
of
variances
being
requested
and
rezoning
I
should
say
include
most
variants.
K
Because
of
notification
issues
since
the
required
letter,
that
is
to
be
mailed
15
days
prior
to
the
public
hearing,
was
never
said,
we
would.
We
would
not
have
had
the
opportunity
to
present
to
you
today,
because
the
initial
public
hearing
was
scheduled
for
May
13th
would
have
proceeded
Alex's
proposal
to
the
lyndale
neighborhood
meeting
last
Tuesday
it
was.
It
was
the
hard
work
of
the
property
owners
on
the
3400
block
of
lyndale
and
Garfield
that
got
the
public
hearing
postponed
and
rescheduled
to
today.
K
I
have
learned
a
significant
amount
of
over
the
past
several
weeks,
and
a
couple
of
things
stand
out
to
me.
First
so
phase
creative
builders
and
Peter
Crandall
circumvented
existing
protocol
when
Alex
decided
not
to
work
in
partnership
with
the
neighborhood
and
Peter
approved
all
the
variances
and
rezoning
according
and
variances
and
rezoning
and
according
to
Alex,
advised
him
on
what
the
neighborhood
would
feel
it
was
acceptable.
K
Secondly,
the
apartment,
rendering
that
is
dated
December
2017,
the
apartment,
rendering
is
dated
December
2017,
so
Peter's
response
of
a
unique
circumstances
with
a
lot
at
34:43
lyndale
is
inaccurate.
What
is
unique
is
that
alex
has
an
apartment
that
he
wants
to
build
on
a
lot.
That's
too
small
and,
as
I
already
stated,
before,
bypassed
existing
protocol
of
the
developer,
engaging
and
working
with
the
neighborhood
first
and
Peter
Crandall
approving
plans
without
community
input.
K
Finally,
it
is
prohibited
by
Minnesota
law
to
rezone
for
the
soil
purpose
of
profit
and
that's
exactly
what
is
happening
and
Alex
clearly
stated
that
at
the
lyndale
neighborhood
meeting
last
Tuesday,
when
he
answered
that
the
variances
he
was
seeking
were
to
maximize
the
return
on
investment
with
all
this.
It
is
difficult
for
me
not
to
think
that
Alex,
along
with
Peter
krandalls
help,
has
attempted
this
before
and
has
failed.
K
This
proposed
development
fits
the
classic
definition
of
spot
zoning.
To
me,
the
process
of
singling
out
a
small
parcel
of
land
for
the
use
class
for
a
used
classification
totally
different
from
the
surrounding
area
and
for
the
benefit
of
the
owner
of
such
property
and
to
the
detriment
of
the
owners.
K
Eric
and
I
met
privately
with
with
Alex,
and
he
he
made
it
clear
to
us
that
he
wanted
to
work
with
us
and
the
neighborhood.
He
wanted
to
be
a
good
neighbor.
He
affirmed
that
again
at
our
neighborhood
meeting
last
Tuesday.
However,
shortly
after
making
that
claim,
he
firmly
stated
that
he
will
not
make
any
modifications
to
his
plan
and
that
he
will
wait
for
the
2040
plan
to
be
implemented.
If,
if
he
doesn't
get
approval,
my
family
has
a
lot
to
lose.
K
Should
this
project
in
be
allowed
to
move
forward
and
get
approved,
our
use
and
enjoyment
will
be
negatively
affected
by
eliminating
our
rear
and
fright
front
yard
sight
line,
loss,
a
visible,
neighborhood
scape,
a
diminished
sense
of
security.
With
inability
to
see
down
our
alley,
we
will
also
lose
any
future
ability
to
have
green
space
or
Gardens.
Due
to
the
lack
of
Sun.
We
lose
privacy,
since
tenants
will
have
full
view
of
our
home
and
our
backyard.
K
Our
taxes
will
increase,
possibly
making
it
difficult
for
us
to
continue
to
live
in
our
home
and
while
our
taxes
increase,
our
home
value
goes
down
because
buyers
are
not
interested
in
purchasing
a
home
next
to
an
apartment.
Building
as
a
licensed
realtor
for
13
years,
I
have
yet
to
sell
a
home
to
a
buyer
that
sits
next
to
an
apartment,
building
it's
too
risky
for
most
buyers,
so
they
will
continue
their
search
even
in
a
tight
market
for
another
home.
K
There
needs
to
be
a
system
in
place
that
residents
can
rely
on
one
that
is
timeless
and
enduring,
regardless
of
who
has
seen
your
city
planner
or
who
is
on
the
Planning
Commission.
We
all
know
that
initiatives
and
urban
plans
change
with
time,
but
how
citizens
are
engaged
needs
to
remain
constant,
something
that
we
know
that
know
that
is
predictable
and
something
that
we
can
rely
on.
K
Minneapolis
residents
should
have
the
confidence
that
developers
will
partner
with
us
to
create
a
plan
that
is
equitable
for
all
prior
to
submitting
it
to
the
city
planner
for
approval.
We
also
need
confidence
that
the
city
planner
will
redirect
developers
back
to
the
neighborhood
when
and
if
the
developer
seeks
city
approval
first
by
passing
protocol
norms,
any
customs
is
what
has
so
many
progressives
upset
with
Washington,
and
this
is
exactly
what
has
happened
here.
There
needs
to
be
a
system
in
place.
Oops!
That's
sorry,
that's
a
repeat!
K
K
K
A
W
My
name
is
Sarah
Stenzel
and
my
husband,
my
four
kids
and
I,
live
at
34,
11,
Garfield,
Avenue
and
much
of
what
I'm
saying
is
probably
just
a
recap
of
what
you've
heard
from
other
people,
but
it
kind
of
shows
maybe
what
the
majority
are
feeling
right
now.
This
developer
is
pushing
the
limits
of
what
the
small
45
by
122
lot
can
accommodate.
W
Alex
wants
to
change,
3443
from
a
1,500
square
foot
single-family
home
typical
of
our
neighborhood
to
a
13,000
square
feet
apartment
building
that,
as
you
have
seen,
will
essentially
cover
the
entire
lot
and
block
much
of
the
light
to
the
neighbors
to
the
north
and
to
the
east.
It
is
clear
when
you
walk
our
neighborhood,
that
this
lot
is
not
suitable
for
this
large
building.
In
fact,
Alex
and
Peter
Crandall
acknowledge
this
lot
will
not
accommodate
the
proposed
building
by
the
number
of
variances
they
are
seeking.
W
On
top
of
the
request
to
change,
the
zoning
Alex
is
requesting
to
increase
the
allowed
square
footage
even
further
by
requesting
that
the
maximum
floor
area
ratio
go
above.
What
is
typical
for
an
r5.
The
report
says
the
site
size
and
configuration
presents
a
practical
difficulty
in
complying
with
the
maximum
F.
They
are
limits
also.
He
is
requesting
to
reduce
the
setbacks
on
all
four
sides
over
what
is
typical
for
an
r5.
The
report
again
says:
practical
difficulties
exist
in
complying
with
ordinance
because
of
the
circumstances
unique
to
the
property.
W
All
of
these
practical
difficulties
indicate
to
me
that
the
density
he
desires
is
unreasonable
and
should
not
be
permitted,
given
the
size
of
the
lot
and
the
character
of
the
our
neighborhood.
Now,
let's
explain
that
our
neighborhood
meeting
that
he
is
unwilling
to
compromise
with
the
neighborhood,
because
it
will
not
work
for
him
financially.
W
He
has
said
that,
in
order
for
him
to
make
the
kind
of
money
developers
are
making
with
buildings
like
the
murals,
he
cannot
and
will
compromise
those
types
of
buildings
are
on
much
larger
Lots
in
denser
areas,
unlike
our
neighborhood
Alex,
chose
to
take
a
risk
when
buying
this
single-family
home,
hoping
for
the
variances,
hoping
that
the
variances
would
pass.
It
is
not
the
responsibility
of
this
committee,
the
neighborhood
or
the
city,
to
approve
the
variances
and
put
the
economic
needs
of
one
developer
over
the
needs
of
the
community.
W
X
Hi,
my
name
is
Ken
Potts
I'm,
the
order
of
a
12
unit,
building
at
3501,
Lindale
and
I.
Guess,
there's
been
a
really
a
lot
of
really
good.
Things
pointed
out
and
I'm
gonna
focus
on
one
item,
and
that
would
be
my
experience
with
parking
in
this
neighborhood
and
just
quickly.
We,
we
ended
up
eventually
getting
a
extra
piece
of
land
to
house
eight
additional
cars
to
keep
as
many
cars
off
the
street
as
possible.
So
I
we
know
complied
with
one
car
per
unit.
So
we
have.
X
You
know
we
looked
through
the
extra
effort
to
get
12
off
street
parking
spots
and,
as
I
have
dealt
with
this
over
the
years.
Surprisingly,
there's
the
Millennials
and
the
lieutenant's
seem
to
have
more
cars
than
they
did
15
years
ago.
There's
very
few.
They
have
less
than
two
cars
that
move
into.
You
know
these
these
units,
so
I
guess
you
know.
X
My
point
is-
is
to
focus
at
some
point
in
your
decision
just
on
the
parking
aspect,
because
in
the
winter
months
when
the
roads
are
narrow,
plowing
is
going
on
it's
already
very,
very
tight.
In
the
summer
months,
it
tends
to
work
its
way
as
it
stands
with
the
densities
that
have
been
mentioned
with
with
our
area,
so
just
really
focus
in
on
that
parking
aspect.
Who's
gonna
pay.
That
price
is
all
the
folks
that
have
spoken
here
today.
It's
any
other
questions,
okay,.
A
Y
Good
evening,
I
am
Eric.
Swanson
I
live
at
34:39
Lyndell.
To
answer
your
question
earlier
about
three-story
apartment
buildings
and
their
height,
those
three-story
apartment
buildings
are
all
all
have
garden
level
units
on
them.
They
so
they
have
a
half
a
story
below
grade,
and
then
they
have
two
storeys
above
grade
two
and
a
half
stories
above
grade
which
would
put
the
building
at
approximately
22
to
24
feet
per
24
to
22
to
24
feet
high
off
the
ground.
So
he's
asking
for
14
more
feet
beyond
what
the.
Y
Other
buildings
in
the
neighborhood
are
I
just
wanted
to
say
there
were
one
thing
that
hasn't
been
addressed.
Nobody's
spoken
to
tonight
is
I
am
really
concerned
about
water
and
water
intrusion.
He
has.
The
proposal
has
essentially
there's
about
12%
of
the
lot
is,
is
permeable
for
moisture
and
we
have
traditionally
every
winter
we
are
out,
read
the
plows
go
through
and
we
have
ruts
in
our
in
our
sidewalk
or
in
our
alley,
because
the
the
water
get
in
there
freezes
and
and
it's
our
what
we
can't
get
the
water
away
from
our
house.
Y
Every
meter,
my
garage
floods
and
I'm
really
concerned
about
my
basement
flooding.
We
just
invested,
you
know
seventy
thousand
dollars
and
to
refinishing
our
basement
and
and
I'm,
and
we've
never
had
any
water
intrusion
and
I'm,
assuming
that
that,
with
no
practical
way
to
divert
the
water
off
the
property
and
into
the
sewers
that
we're
gonna
have
issues
with
our
water.
Y
Like
my
wife
said,
the
the
the
setbacks
for
on
all
four
sides
are
unnecessary.
This
man
has
taken
a
plan
that
he
had
drawn
up
two
years
ago
and
is
trying
to
find
a
spot
in
Minneapolis
to
put
this
plan
and
that
not
there's
nothing
unique
about
this.
This
lie.
There
are
no
there's
nothing
different
about
his
lot
than
there
is
about
mine
other
than
the
organisms
that
live
on
it
in
the
house.
Y
Y
Oh,
my
god,
I'm
so
glad
that
there
are
people
out
here
that
come
down
our
street
every
day
that
come
that
go
to
Lynn
Lake,
that's
been
revitalized
and,
and
it's
so
nice
to
get
out
and
talk
to
people,
but
now
with
an
apartment,
building
and
a
fence
that
we
can't
see,
we
can't
see
beyond.
We
won't
be
able
to
be
sit
out
there
and
communicate
and
have
a
good
time
with
our
neighbors
as
I
walk
by
in
the
evening.
Y
The
setback
for
the
alleyway,
he
has
seven
feet
the
setback
of
seven
feet,
which
is
approximately
as
wide
as
a
car
and
believes
that
people
won't
Park
and
block
the
alley
when
they,
when
he
has
this
hardened
surface
in
the
back,
he
stated
that
you
know.
Maybe
people
could
park
back
there.
I
can't
remember
exactly
but
I
apologize.
Y
A
Z
Z
AA
I
wasn't
planning
on
sapone,
my
name
is
Brian
Carter
Smith
I'm
at
3400,
Berfield
I,
wasn't
planning
on
speaking,
but
I
just
want
to
address
one
of
the
questions
that
one
of
you
had.
What
were
the
heights
of
the
neighboring
buildings
around
the
corner,
where
this
is
being
built
and
I
will
tell
you
that
the
Kitty
clinic
is
just
south
of
that
proposed
development?
That's
one
story
across
the
street
south
of
that
is
a
two
and
a
half
story:
apartment
building
across
the
street
on
lyndale
there's
an
auto
body
shop
in
VOA's
restaurant.
AA
Both
one
story,
kitty
corner
from
the
Kitty
clinic
in
the
development,
is
a
house
basically
one
and
a
half
story.
So
basically
mr.
Meighan
spoke
earlier
about
the
the
the
commercial
development
is
mostly
north
of
31st
Street,
going
north
on
lyndale.
That's
where
the
buildings
generally
are
a
little
taller
south
of
there.
This
is
the
character
of
the
whole
neighborhood.
We're
looking
at
houses
are
generally
one
and
a
half
to
two
story.
Even
all
the
apartment
buildings
on
are
black
in
the
neighborhood.
They
tend
to
be
two
and
a
half
story.
AA
Where
half
the
stories
you
know
at
ground
level
and
then
two
stories
above
it,
so
this
proposal
is
a
four
story:
dorm
link,
condo
unit,
that's
going
to
tower
above
everything
in
our
neighborhood
and
as
you
can
look
at
the
drawing
on
the
plans,
there's
no
yard
I
walked
on
that
yard.
This
last
week
there
is
trees
and
that's.
What's
people
have
been
appleÃs
we're
a
green
city,
it's
full
of
trees,
they're,
going
to
knock
down
every
single
tree
on
that
lot
and
they
say
they're
going
to
have
one
tree
plant
I
find
that's
ridiculous.
AA
The
other
thing
talking
about
the
load
off
and
drop
off.
There's
no
plan
for
that
I
mean
you
look
in
the
front.
If
you
look
at
the
plan
that
whole
building
takes
up
the
whole
lot
on
the
front
they're
having
a
little
space
for
a
patio,
there's,
no
drop-off.
So
if
you're
going
to
load
and
unload
on
the
front
he's
they
were
gonna
have
to
park
somewhere
on
lyndale.
Well
years
ago,
Lyndell
put
in
a
nice
boulevard
to
calm
the
neighborhood
in
the
traffic
it'd
be
more
pedestrian
friendly.
Now
you've
got
this
apartment
building.
AA
In
there
there
is
no
place
to
drop
off
and
load
any
of
these
apartment
buildings.
You
know
if
you
go
in
the
alley
that
pads
and
I
can
be
big
enough
for
a
truck,
so
you
can
block
the
alley
so
I'm,
just
totally
posted
I,
think
it's
ridiculous,
its
spot
zoning
and
it
doesn't
even
fit
in
with
the
2040
plan.
AA
C
When
came
the
2040
plan,
as
you
can
tell
I'm,
definitely
in
favor
of
more
density,
but
I
saw
weaknesses
in
this
plan.
I
thought
in
many
ways
it
has
unbalances
between
the
way
the
energy
for
density
was
weird
and
I
thought
there
was
not
enough
pressure
on
the
urban
corridors
older
downtown
and
by
the
way,
the
parking
lots
I
still
left
idle.
You
guys
have
no
policy
to
deal
with
the
downtown
parking
lot
so
far.
Hopefully,
one
day
you
will,
but
you
don't
right
now.
C
So
what
I
mean
by
that
is
that
on
Lake
Street,
for
instance,
the
minimum
storage
is
still
two
stories
in
the
2040
plan
and
yet
in
the
residential
neighborhoods,
which
I
really
cherish
and
I
think
it's
the
gem
of
American
cities
in
many
ways
to
have
that
that
combination
of
both
green
space
and
different
types
of
housing
and
the
quality
of
living,
you
have
instill
an
incredible
pressure
for
density.
That
I
think
is
unjustified
and
too
much
for
most
neighborhoods
and
we
object.
C
C
This
contrast
between
these
two
stories,
one
creating
shade
absence
of
privacy
on
a
family
with
two
adopted
children
and,
on
the
other
hand,
on
Lake
Street,
just
a
few
block
waits
leg
and
brand
adjust
a
three-story
building,
beautiful
building
I'm
sure
is
a
nice
owner.
But
we're
going
to
be
stuck
with
a
three-story
building
for
20
30
years,
even
though
you
want
density,
I,
think
there's
a
problem
there
and
I.
C
Think
that
illustrates
the
weaknesses
of
this
2040
plan,
which
is
not
exactly
falling
under
the
guidelines
today,
but
still
it's
in
the
mind
of
everyone
and
that's
where
your
decision
today
is
very
important,
because
it's
not
just
for
story
of
various
lists
and
parking
and
all
that.
Yes,
there
are
some
very
important
personal
stories
of
a
family
and
people
living
in
this
area.
It's
also
contrasted
with
what
is
not
happening
elsewhere,
so
you
are
creating
a
precedent
here.
C
This
is
a
very
political
decision
that
you
are
making
today
on
the
type
of
development
you
want
for
this
city
and
I
urge
you
to
rise
to
the
occasion
and
to
make
the
right
decision
and
to
downscale
this
project
to
push
the
pause
button.
This
2040
plan
is
not
fleshed
out.
The
zoning
has
to
be
negotiated.
The
guidelines
have
to
be
written,
there's
lots
of
things
that
you
need
to
take
into
account,
such
as
the
right
of
privacy,
the
shade
the
loss
of
green
spaces.
C
At
a
time
when
we
talk
about
the
diner
index,
all
those
things
are
important,
so
the
question:
do
you
really
want
the
building
like
this
everywhere?
Is
that
the
new
template
we're
going
to
have
this
four-story
building
one
next
to
each
other,
with
one
yard
between
between
each?
Is
that
the
new
model
for
this
city?
That
would
be
very
disappointing
and,
frankly,
I.
A
Y
Y
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right,
then
I'm
gonna
close
the
public
hearing
on
this
item.
Commissioners.
We
have
seven
eight
minutes
before
us.
Would
anybody
like
to
start
discussion
on
this
I
know
I
actually
had
a
question
for
staff,
so
maybe
you
know
people
are
chronic
Peter
tonight.
My
question
was
in
regard
to
storm
water
mitigation
and
if
there
are
any
efforts
being
proposed
by
the
applicant.
N
S
AB
Looking
at
the
the
approvals
that
are
necessary
for
this
project,
the
rezoning
to
me
going
from
the
r2b
to
the
r5
seems
to
be
I.
Think
there's
support
for
that.
My
concerns
come
with
the
variances
that
that
go
along
with
this
particular
project
and
I.
Think
that,
as
in
some
other
cases,
where
we've
seen
them,
the
problem
will
be
justifying
the
findings
for
them
as
I.
AB
Don't
think
that
they
are
circumstances
unique
to
the
parcel
of
land
on
which
we're
discussing
the
project
but
to
the
project
that
intends
to
go
on
to
the
parcel
of
land.
I
agree
with
a
number
of
the
speaker's
comments
that
the
project
is
is
too
large
and
that's
what
creates
the
need
for
the
variances,
as
I
said
I.
Think
perhaps
a
rezoning
is
fine,
but
a
19
unit,
four-story
building
for
me
that
requires
all
of
these
variances,
basically
maximizing
the
piece
of
property
to
the
limits
to
the
limits
of
the
lot.
AB
O
If
you
look
at
the
map,
the
other
are
five
parcels
are
larger
and
more
suited
to
accommodating
our
five
type
uses
this
parcel,
as
we
have
heard
described
and
as
I
observed
when
I
reviewed,
the
materials
is
more
like
an
RVT
residential
parcel
than
it
is
like
an
r5
and
I
would
not
be
in
support
of
the
rezoning
I
think
the
act
of
development
is
a
partnership
with
the
city.
The
city
cannot
redevelopment
a
parcel
on
its
own,
so
it
is
by
de
facto
a
partnership.
O
I,
don't
see
the
partnership
in
this
application,
I
see
it
tending
toward
one
side
and
not
toward
the
city
side.
I
do
also
want
to
say
incorrect.
One
thing
that
was
mentioned
that
staff
has
not
approved
any
plan.
Staff
has
not
approved
any
variances.
Our
rezoning
staff
has
a
function
here.
It
is
not
to
approve
or
deny
anything
and
I
guess.
I.
Correct
one
other,
perhaps
misperception,
the
Planning
Commission
is
not
being
driven
by
the
2040
plan.
We
are
looking
at
findings
that
relate
to
the
current
comprehensive
plan.
O
A
A
H
A
H
I
think,
based
on
the
size
of
the
project
and
the
lack
of
the
context
related
to
not
only
the
single-family
duplex
homes,
but
the
surrounding
commercial
properties
and
the
lack
of
new
development
in
the
area.
I
think
that
was
allude
to
I
wanted
the
commenters
that
there
is
redevelopment
in
the
broader
area,
but
the
specific
area
has
not
seen
much
of
any
redevelopment.
Thank.
M
H
H
I,
don't
see
any
care
taken
to
respond
to
the
existing
context
in
this
project,
and
that's
something
I
certainly
to
talk
about
during
the
2040
conversations
is
that
we
will
see
bigger
buildings
next
to
smaller
buildings
and
there
they
need
to
respond
to
that
existing
context,
independent
of
what
the
zoning
is
of
the
adjacent
properties.
Thank.
B
Just
want
to
echo
those
points
like
as
we
gotta
move
forward,
I'm,
not
just
being
like
the
context,
but
also
talking
with
neighbors
talking
with
what
other
city
goals.
So
you
can
plan
go
forward
and
you
know
we
haven't
really
talked
like.
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
stormwater,
but
I
mean
environmental
concerns,
affordability
concerns
all
these
things
can
help
projects
go
forward,
but
they
just
weren't
lacking
we're
lacking
in
this
project.
Commissioner,.
O
Would
like
to
just
itemize
some
of
my
specific
reasons:
I
will
not
I
will
support
motion
to
not
approve
the
variance
is
starting
with
the
floor
area
ratio.
I.
Think
at
the
the
justification
that
says
were
the
project
to
provide
enclosed
parking,
it
would
qualify
for
a
20%
bonus
and
FA
are
is
not
relevant.
We
could
all
think
about
things
that
developers
might
do
anytime
that
if
they
did
them,
we
would
give
them
bonuses
for
I.
O
Don't
think
that
should
show
up
as
a
reason
for
supporting
a
variance
in
regards
to
the
interior
side,
setbacks
and
minimum
rear
yard
setback.
I
see
this
as
nothing.
There
are
no
practical
difficulties.
I
agree
with
many
of
the
people
that
have
spoken
today.
These
are
choices
by
the
developer
that
have
created
these
situations.
It
is
nothing
unique
to
the
light.
O
The
proposed
setbacks
are
not
compatible
with
the
surrounding
development
surrounding
uses,
and
the
building
will
interfere
with
adequate
lights,
given
that
it
is
in
on
the
south
side
of
two-story
residential
buildings,
the
front
yard
setback
is
very
concerning
to
me
the
front
yard,
primarily
because
of
two
factors:
one
the
interaction
with
the
landscaping
that
is
proposed
here.
The
landscaping
is
minimal,
though
the
hardscaping
in
the
front
yard,
for
outdoor
space
for
these
units
is
pretty
laughable.
To
me,
why?
O
Why
create
the
situation
where
you've
eliminated
all
of
your
side,
yard
outdoor
uses
and
your
backyard
outdoor
uses
and
then
put
hard
scape
in
the
front
yard,
where
it's
going
to
impact
the
entire
block
like
that?
That
is
just
not
compelling
to
me
and
that's.
Those
are
the
primary
reasons.
Thank
you.
A
M
D
A
F
Good
evening,
item
number
slips
is
for
the
property
located
at
20
at
12,
Fremont,
Avenue
South,
the
subject:
property
is
owned,
r5
and
the
existing
land
use
has
a
two-family
dwelling
with
a
detached
garage.
The
applicant
has
applied
for
two
variances
and
site
plan
review
to
allow
for
a
new
10
unit
residential
building.
The
first
variance
is
to
reduce
the
South
interior
side,
yard,
setback
from
11
feet,
down
to
5,
feet,
9
inches
and
then
the
second
variance
is
to
allow
form
essentially
maneuvering
in
the
alley.
F
The
proposed
multiple
family
dwelling
is
located
within
a
quarter
mile
of
the
number
six
transit
stop
at
28th
and
Hennepin,
and
therefore
there
is
no
minimum
off
street
parking
required.
However,
the
applicant
is
proposing
those
two
street
parking
spaces.
The
lot
is
45
feet.
One
inch
wide,
the
existing
zoning
is
r5,
which
is
a
high
density.
District
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
the
two
variances
and
site
plan
review
based
on
the
following
findings.
F
First,
is
that
for
the
reduce
setback
along
the
south
interior
side
yard
staff
finds
that
practical
difficulty
does
exist
due
the
circumstances
unique
to
that
slot,
based
on
the
existing
lot
width
and
the
adjacent
use
being
open
space,
the
lot
is
45
feet.
One
inch
wide
as
I
mentioned,
which
allow
and
the
zoning
district
allows
for
four
storeys
as
a
maximum
height
that
would
bring
us
to
11
foot
side
yard
setbacks
on
both
sides.
F
The
applicants
providing
11
foot
2
inches
along
the
north
interior
side
yard
to
provide
some
relief
to
the
residential
uses
to
the
north
and
that
remainder
is
5
feet,
9
inches.
On
the
south
side,
the
zoning
allows
for
high
density
residential
units
of
truck
owner
20
volumes
per
acre,
so
we
would
expect
to
have
approximately
16
units
on
this
site
at
maximum
and,
as
I
mentioned
before,
10
are
the
proposed
staff
was
evaluated.
F
The
fact
that
the
property
of
the
South
is
open
space,
which
would
have
a
limited,
a
more
limited
impact
than
a
residential
use
that
property
the
South
is
used
as
a
dog
park
that
is
used
as
an
amenity
space
for
the
property.
Looking
at
28
38
Fremont
Avenue
style
project
is
known
as
the
Flex
staff
further
finds
the
under
finding
to
that.
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
utilize
the
property
in
a
reasonable
manner,
consistent
with
the
spirit
intent
of
the
ordinance.
F
For
the
second
variance,
the
variance
roll
off
for
maneuvering.
In
the
alley
the
applicant
has
decided
to
provide
on-street
parking,
although
none
is
required.
Those
two
austrie
parking
spaces,
one
will
be
an
accessible
handicap
stall,
18
feet
wide
and
one
would
be
a
standard
stall.
So,
typically,
we
would
see
this
kind
of
parking
configuration
for
a
single-family
home,
duplex
triplex
or
for
clinics.
In
those
cases
we
would
allow
for
the
maneuvering
to
occur
in
the
alley.
F
The
applicant
is
not
seeking
any
alternative
compliance
for
site
plan
review,
so
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
the
two
variances.
There
are
no
additional
conditions
placed
on
those
two
variances
and
then
recommending
approval
of
the
site
plan
review
with
seven
stated
conditions
on
page
12
of
the
staff
report
be
happy
to
answer.
Any
questions
are.
AC
AC
We
did
present
to
the
neighborhood,
we
did
discuss
the
affordable
piece
and
I
knew
I
had
some
rough
stats,
but
I
wanted
to
present
with
you
guys
as
well.
We
already
have
a
project
that
we
built
and
that
was
approved
on
a
Tuesday
reserve,
a
Bryan
Avenue
south,
and
that
project
is
10%
of
the
building
is
affordable
at
less
than
70%
ami
and
then
60%
of
the
building
is
a
about
less
than
80%
am
I,
so
we
are
targeting
those
those
those
rents
as
well.
Thank
you.
Let
me
know
if
you
guys
have
any
questions.
AC
A
AD
Hi,
my
name
is
Beth
Harrington
I
live
20,
804,
Fremont,
so
property,
two
doors
north
of
the
proposed
project
and
I'm
speaking
here.
As
someone
who
has
lived
through
28th
and
Fremont
I,
described
to
friends
and
colleagues
alike,
that
I
live
in
the
epicenter
of
development
of
up
towns.
We've
lived
through
flux,
which
is
everyone
know,
was
the
first
of
the
high-rise
to
go
up
along
the
Greenway,
so
our
blog
shortly
after
moving
into
our
residence
it's
10
and
a
half
years
ago,
the
zoning
was
changed.
AD
I
understand
that
our
block
is
zoned,
r5
r6
and
it's
going
to
all
eventually
be
high-rise
apartments.
So
I
want
to
speak
to
the
things
that
are
actually
really
important
to
us:
single
family,
home
dwellers
who
still
live
in
the
area,
and
that
is
parking
and
oddly
access,
so
parking
I
think
you've
heard
a
lot
from
previous
speakers
that
I
understand
the
proposed
the
proposers
or
the
developers
are
feeling
that
they're
being
generous
by
allowing
two
parking
units
per
place.
But
the
reality
is
that
this
is
a
10
unit.
AD
AD
Public
transportation,
but
the
real
is
that
most
of
these
folks
have
cars
and
if
they
do
not
their
families
and
their
friends
do
and
when
they
come
in
from
the
suburbs
they
park
along
our
streets,
and
that
is
the
reality
and
that's
adding
to
the
congestion
of
the
area
and
a
decrease
of
livability.
For
those
of
us
who
are
single
family
homes.
AD
Secondly,
is
bla
is
the
alley
access
and
two
years
ago,
I
was
here,
along
with
my
neighbors,
when
the
boutique
2840
unit
building
went
up
on
Girard,
which
is
directly
across
from
us,
and
we
argued
vehemently
for
a
loading
zone
to
be
included
with
a
loading
unloading
zone
to
be
included
with
in
the
alley,
and
we
were
successful
with
that
and
I
will
give
drew
and
Danny
credit
for
listening
to
us,
because
that
has
made
a
huge
difference.
So
we,
the
acts,
are
Ally
flux.
As
you
know,
it's.
AD
I
can
account
exactly
once
by
people
moving
in
and
out
of
that
unit
in
almost
two
years,
whereas
with
the
Flex
building,
which
refuses
to
put
up
signs
saying
that
people
cannot
stop
and
block
the
alley,
that's
still
a
regular
occurrence
that
we
are
blocked
and
that
affects
not
only
our
access
to
our
houses
and
our
garages,
but
also
for
delivery
and
emergency
vehicles.
So
those
are
my
two
points
that
I
want
to
make
and
thank
you
for
listening.
Thank.
A
AE
I'm
Richard
Kadeem,
Paul
Harris
I'm
here
representing
my
mother,
who
is
the
property
owner
of
2808
Fremont
Avenue
south
directly
north
of
the
proposed
site
and
I,
was
speaking
specifically
to
a
concern
about
our
shared
driveway.
That
was
built
approximately
25
years
ago,
and
you
know
we
believe
we
have
a
prescriptive
easement
to
the
28:12
half
of
the
driveway
and
are
concerned
about
the
current
site
plan
and
what
that
would
do
to
our
access
to
our
garage
and
driveway
space
and
so
I'm
just
putting
that
on
notice.
AE
A
O
AE
Was
originally
it
was
like
a
sand
driveway,
no
there's
two
two
garages
all
right
and
the
driveway
is
in
between
them
to
get
the
driveway
has
like
a
steep
slope
to
it
it's
cement
and
to
pull
in
to
one
side
or
the
other.
You
have
to
pass
over
the
adjacent
properties
driveway.
So
you
know
we've
consistently
for
over
25
years
may
utilizing.
You
know
the
other
half
of
the
driveway,
so.
O
AE
AE
AE
You
know
we've
been
using
that
land
for
a
long
time,
and
so
we
actually
have
a
you
know:
we've
consulted
legal
consult
and
you
know
they
say
we
have
a
claim
to
the
right
of
that
to
continue
to
use
that
space.
So
that's
a
concern
about
the
current
site
plan
and
you
how
they're
you
know,
gonna
build
and
add
vicinity.
So
one
other
note
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
know.
AE
Originally
this
unit
was
you
know
a
a
two
unit
building
but
many
years
ago
is
renovated
and
it's
only
been
a
one
unit
building
for
a
long
time
and
that's
a
discrepancy
and
also
in
the
site
plan.
They
talked
about.
You
know:
cutting
down
trees,
they're,
saying
they're
only
cutting
down
one
tree,
but
it
looks
to
me
like
they're
gonna,
be
cutting
down
actually
three
mature
trees
and
I
just
want
to
say
like
there's
some
negligence
and
there's.
You
know
kind
of
how
they're
spinning
this
so
I
think
it's
important
that
this
gets
before.
AF
Hi,
my
name
is
Rachel
sure,
Matt,
25:32,
alder,
Avenue,
South,
I'm,
a
board
member
of
Lowry
Hill
East,
Neighborhood,
Association
I'm,
also
an
active
member
in
architects
to
local
architects
and
I'm.
An
active
member
of
the
American
Institute
of
Architects
I
want
to
just
start
by
saying
that
my
wife
and
I
moved
to
Minneapolis
from
Phoenix
Arizona
six
years
ago,
because
we
love
the
community
that
it's
represented
here
and
that
is,
it
was
so
explicitly
seen
in
the
wedge,
neighborhood
in
Lowry,
Hill
East
in
so
many
of
our
neighborhoods.
AF
So
we're
really
proud
to
be
here.
I
just
wanted
to
raise
a
point.
I
want
a
second
of
all
the
wonderful
things
that
have
been
said
here
tonight
and
thank
the
Commission
for
their
attention
to
what
is
sort
of
fundamentally
a
flaw
to
one
of
the
book.
One
of
the
gentlemen
had
said
earlier.
One
of
the
sort
of
I
don't
want
to
go
so
far
as
to
say
flaw,
but
one
of
the
one
of
the
challenges
with
2040
plan
and
our
current
zoning
I'm
sure
it's
not
pasta.
It's
not!
AF
Last
and
everybody
here
that
this
building
looks
a
lot
like
the
last
one.
We
were
just
talking
about
it's
important
to
note
that
the
property,
the
r5
property,
that
this
was
this
piece,
this
home,
is
going
on
butts
up
against
in
our
six
zone,
property
that
was
actually
allowed
to
when
flux
was
developed
was
allowed
to
be
developed
into
an
agree,
a
surface
level
put
dog
park.
AF
So
in
terms
of
the
context
of
the
neighborhood
and
the
context
of
the
block
which
is
so
important
to
where
we
live,
it's
actually
the
the
form
of
the
structure
itself.
It's
entirely
out
of
context
with
what
has
been
approved
to
the
south
and
then,
of
course,
as
two
of
my
neighbors
have
stated
here
tonight,
the
homes
to
the
north
they're
actually
extremely
well
maintained
fabric
homes
that
we
want
to
be
with
respectful
of
these
homes
aren't
going
anywhere
anytime
soon.
AF
We
understand
that
the
properties
are
zoned
for
higher
density,
and,
let
me
tell
you,
everyone
in
our
neighborhood
is
all
about
higher
density,
more
affordable
housing.
We
want
more
people
more
diverse
people
in
our
neighborhood.
We
also
really
want
to
be
respectful
of
the
form
of
the
fabric
of
our
neighborhood
important
things.
To
note,
with
the
massing
of
this
property,
existing
homes
in
the
fabric
are
responsive
in
terms
of
their
their
form,
in
that
their
top
is
a
pitched
roof.
AF
So
problems
with
sheathing
that
occur
as
will
occur,
with
the
property
to
the
north,
with
this
property
is
similar
to
the
last
one
we
spoke
about
our
lessened.
The
scale
of
the
of
the
building
itself
has
been
is
decreased
in
those
moves,
the
idea
of
a
front
porch
and
the
interstitial
spaces
between
the
privacy
of
the
home
and
the
publicity
of
the
public
space
of
the
sidewalk.
AF
All
of
these
are
very
important
and
they're
so
important
to
how
our
community
functions
so
I
just
wanted
to
go
on
record,
and
we
just
have
so
many
of
these
homes
coming
into
our
neighborhood
that
are
just
they're
pulling
away
from
what
makes
our
neighborhood
work,
and
you
know
again,
it's
not
about
too
many
units,
or
you
know,
I
could,
because
the
parking
conversation
is
a
much
bigger
one
than
we've
even
started
to
dive
into
today,
but
I.
Just
want
to
wanted
to
put
that
on
record
for
the
massing
of
the
building
itself.
Thank.
D
Nico
harrington
2804,
Fremont
Avenue
self,
at
a
Don,
Juan
mom,
said
earlier
about
the
parking
situation.
It
does
have
a
cascading
effect.
Two
blocks
is
not
enough
for
these
proposed
building.
There
will
be
additional
people
parking
on
the
street,
and
that
means
that
available
free
parking
will
be
pushed
further
out
into
these
solely
single
housing
areas
of
further
down
on
28th,
further
north
further
other
cardinal
direction,
and
forgetting
that
needs
to
people
that
come
here
on
the
weekend
for
the
bars
and
such
when
they
come
home
at
2:00
a.m.
very
loud
and
very
drunk.
D
D
A
AC
There's
no
reason
it's
a
continuous
Drive
I
mean
that's
to
try
to
you
know:
he's
got
his
driver,
we
have
our
driveway.
The
the
property
stake
is
set
to
make
a
easy
fix.
We
can
switch
the
the
enclosed
transfer
cycle
in
the
bike
parking
on
the
south
side,
so
we'd
have
parking
on
there.
So
it'd
be
a
little
bit
easy,
maneuvering
back
and
forth,
and
that's
easy
to
accommodate.
Thank.
AC
A
A
J
A
O
J
And
I
will
continue,
along
with
a
motion
to
approve
item
C.
The
site
plan
review
with
seven
stated
conditions
and
I'd
like
to
add
an
eighth.
As
commissioner
Coleman
stated,
that
the
applicant
work
with
the
neighboring
property
owner
on
relocation
of
the
parking
in
the
to
the
rear
of
the
building
is.
H
I
just
wanted
to
pick
up
one
of
the
tests
turmeric
justifier
said
about
this
is
a
very
similar
on
its
surface
project
to
the
last
one
we
looked
up,
but
a
few
things
I
wanted
to
note
that
are
different.
The
existing
is
only
is
our
five
here.
There's
no
request
for
a
zoning
change.
The
front
yard
setback
is
much
greater
here.
It
actually
matches
the
house
to
the
north.
There
is
an
actual
front
porch
on
this
project,
which
is
very
much
in
character
with
the
neighborhood.
There
has
been
significant
redevelopment
in
the
area.
H
A
A
A
F
You
can
see
based
on
the
zoning
map
before
you,
those
tight
is
zoned
c2,
which
is
the
neighborhood
corridor.
Commercial
district
site
is
also
located
within
the
airport
overlay
district,
the
hatch
line
that
runs
kind
of
the
lines
that
feels,
if
you
will
denote
the
floodplain
overlay
district
and
then
the
entire
site
is
within
the
shoreline
overlay
district.
The
site
is
just
over
its
1.31
a
KERS,
some
land
use
features
are
we
were
within
a
neighborhood
commercial
note
here
for
cedar
and
Minnehaha
and
Cedar
Avenue
is
a
community
corridor.
F
The
subject
properties
are
located
mid
block
between
sitter
and
Longfellow
avenues
between
47th
and
Minnehaha.
The
existing
use
is
the
Bergen
Super
Value
grocery
store
its
existing
one
story.
Building
with
surface
parking
surrounding
there's
an
existing
serve
parking
agreement
with
carbone's
and
cork
dork
to
the
north,
and
that
is
to
remain
as
part
of
this
proposed
development.
I'll
go
a
little
more
into
the
traffic
and
parking
as
we
continue
through.
F
The
presentation,
as
noted
part
of
the
site,
is
within
the
flood
plain
overlay
that
introduces
additional
requirements
for
both
the
city
of
Minneapolis
and
the
watershed.
So
for
the
city
of
Minneapolis,
we
require
that
the
applicant
bring
up
the
first
floor
elevation
at
least
a
foot
above
the
regulatory
flood
protection
elevation,
whereas
the
Minnehaha
Creek
watershed
requires
additional,
it's
actually
about
2.3
feet
from
what
the
existing
is.
F
As
noted
the
site
is
within
the
shoreland
overlay
district.
So
uniquely
in
this
particular
circumstance
we're
not
within
a
thousand
feet
of
one
of
the
lakes.
We
are
not
within
300
feet
of
Minnehaha
Creek.
The
reason
why
the
shoreland
overlay
is
applicable
to
this
property
is
that,
because
the
site
is
within
300
feet
of
the
land,
landward
extent
of
the
floodplain
designation.
So
again,
it's
not
based
on
a
specific
water
body,
but
it's
based
on
the
location
of
that
floodplain
overlay,
district.
F
The
applicant
is
proposing
a
new
mixed-use
building
with
130
rental
dwelling
units,
a
new
grocery
store,
approximately
220
2,500
square
feet.
The
building
is
proposed
to
be
five
storeys.
The
first
floor
off
of
Cedar
Avenue
will
be
the
grocery
store.
It
has
the
principal
entrance
facing
Cedar
Avenue,
an
access
to
parking
provided
via
curb
cut
along
Cedar
Avenue
along
Longfellow.
There
is
the
proposed
residential
amenity
residential
lobby
and
then
also
access
to
the
second
floor,
parking
garage.
F
Here
you
can
see
on
site
by
Cedar,
Avenue
Longfellow,
there's
a
two-way
Drive
aisle
through
the
site.
This
portion
of
the
parking
is
enclosed
on
the
first
floor,
there's
25
spaces
here
these
are
shared
with,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
other
82
surface
parking
stalls
that
are
actually
on
separate
property.
So
if
you
can
follow
the
hand
here,
this
denotes
the
the
two
properties
together
that
are
before
you
today.
F
F
The
maximum
height
in
the
c2
district
is
four
storeys
not
to
exceed
56
feet.
However,
with
the
shoreland
overlay
regulations,
the
height
is
reduced
to
two
and
a
half
stories
not
to
exceed
35
feet.
The
purpose
of
that
ordinance
is
to
protect
views
from
those
significant
water
bodies
where
in
this
case,
that
is
not
not
the
factor
for
why
the
shoreland
applies
to
this
property
in
additional
to
do
the
conditional
use
trying
to
increase
the
maximum
height.
The
applicant
is
also
asking
for
relief
via
a
conditional
use
permit
to
prevent
bringing
up
the
fill.
F
There
are
a
number
of
findings
related
to
each
of
the
conditional
use
permits
and
then
so
I'll
touch
on
most
of
those
particularly
around
how
staff
arrived
at
our
recommendation,
I'm
happy
to
go
into
further
detail
as
as
requested,
as
previously
noted,
the
maximum.
So
first
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
the
variance
reading
fees
to
maximum
height.
In
short,
land
overlay.
The
c2
district
allows
for
a
four-story
building
not
to
exceed
56
feet
that
would
be
measured
typically
to
the
roof
deck
the
shoreland
overlay.
We
measure
to
the
very
top
of
all
structures.
F
So
in
this
case
the
proposed
building
is
59
for
to
the
roof,
deck
and
72
for
to
the
top
of
that
elevator
stair
tower
on
the
roof.
The
poverty
is
in
the
floodplain,
overly
as
I
mentioned,
which
prohibits
really
allowing
for
underground
or
enclosed
parking
below
the
structure,
and
that
then
brings
the
building
up
quite
a
bit.
So
as
we
know
that
also
2.3
feet
is
also
required
to
bring
the
building
up.
So
that
gets
us
even
over
the
56
feet.
F
Further
that
the
applicant
has
to
provide
required
off
street
parking.
This
particular
project
is
not
qualified
for
a
transit
incentive
to
reduce
it's
off
street
parking
requirement
for
the
residential
uses.
So,
therefore,
all
the
required
at
parking
has
to
be
provided
on-site.
So
with
those
conditions
present,
staff
found
that
the
proposed
building
height
would
not
be
detrimental
to
or
endanger
the
public
health
safety,
comfort,
general
welfare,
provided
that
the
development
complies
with
the
applicable
building
codes.
There
will
be
additional
permits
for
fire
through
the
watershed.
F
Staff
did
not
find
that
the
conditional
use
would
be
injurious
to
the
youths
enjoyment
of
other
property
in
the
vicinity
or
impede
on
normal
and
orderly
development.
Shoreland
overlay
district
in
particulars
established
to
preserve
and
enhance
environmental
qualities
such
as
surface
waters
and
the
natural
economic
values
of
sharland
areas.
So,
as
previously
noted,
there's
not
impact
to
either
the
lakes
or
the
creek
and,
in
speaking
with
Public
Works
again
today
related
to
the
stormwater
management
plan
for
the
site
which
this
the
site
is
subject
to.
F
Public
Works
would
not
be
able
to
approve
a
project
that
did
not
comply
fully
with
stormwater
management
requirements
where
we
are
in
the
processes.
So
far,
PDR
has
been
the
preliminary
development
review,
so
the
site
plan
is
preliminary,
including
the
stormwater
management
report
and
travel
demand.
Management
report
been
reviewed
by
Public
Works
and
essentially
what
they
say
at
this
point
is
step
is
the
applicant
is
on
the
right
track
and
will
have
to
verify
compliance
through
the
next
stage
if
they
just
is
approved.
F
Staff
notes
policies
of
the
Minneapolis
plan
for
sustainable
growth,
that
the
project
is
in
compliance
with
I
know.
It's
been
mentioned
several
times
this
evening,
but
we
have
received
quite
a
few
comments
particularly
relate
to
this
project,
as
it
relates
to
the
designation
for
built
form
and
land
use
in
the
2040
plan.
The
2040
plan,
as
you
know,
is
not
relevant
for
this
project
today,
and
that
project
was
reviewed
for
compliance
with
comprehensive
plan
policies.
F
With
the
Minneapolis
plan
for
sustainable
growth,
the
applicant
has
provided
shadow
studies
for
the
increased
height,
showing
minimal
shadowing
to
the
commercial
properties
and
surface
parking
to
the
north
and
the
West,
mostly
during
the
winter
solstice,
there
are
small
areas
of
the
Hiawatha
Golf
Course
that
will
be
shadowed
in
the
late
afternoon.
Also
during
the
winter
solstice.
Therefore,
staff
finds
that
the
proposed
height
increase
would
not
impact
the
access
to
light
or
air
for
the
surrounding
properties.
F
Further
staff
looked
for
any
existing
solar
energy
systems
and
the
nearest
one
was
over
a
thousand
feet
away.
Northwest
of
the
subject-
property,
which
would
not
be
impacted
by
the
proposed
building
height
increase
staff,
does
note
that
the
building
heights
in
the
air,
mostly
one
to
two
storeys
and
the
subject
property,
is
subject
to
this
CEP.
Only
because
of
the
shoreland
designation
and
again
notes
the
minimal
shadowing
on
commercial
properties.
There
were
no
residential
properties
that
appear
to
be
shadowed
by
the
proposed
structure.
F
And
then
on
to
the
shoreland
findings,
specifically
to
the
conditional
use
permit,
the
applicants
provide
a
geotechnical
report,
an
erosion
control
and
sediment
plan,
with
recommendations
for
prevention
of
soil
erosion
and
off-site
impacts
due
to
the
floodplain,
both
during
and
after
construction.
That
was
included
in
the
very
large
packet
that
we
provided
to
you.
As
previously
noted,
staff
from
Public
Works
have
evaluated
the
preliminary
submission
for
these
reports
and
documents
and
a
copy.
The
PDR
report
is
attached
today
as
far
as
limiting
visibility
of
structures
from
the
protected
waters
that
is
not
applicable
here.
F
Similarly,
the
property
does
not
have
any
direct
access
to
protected
water.
There
are
a
number
of
flood
plain
findings,
as
I
mentioned
earlier.
Essentially
they
are
staff
finds
that
they
are
consistent
with
those
findings.
I
can
go
into
detail
if
the
Planning
Commission
prefers
on
any
of
those
1
through
11,
if
not
I'll.
Move
on
to
the
second
conditional
use
permit
okay,
so
the
second
conditional
use
permit
is
to
reduce
the
minimum
extension
of
fill
from
15
feet
to
0
feet.
So
essentially,
the
building
is
right
up
to
the
property
line
in
portions
along
Cedar.
F
Moving
on
to
the
variance
to
increase
the
maximum
floor
area
ratio
staff
rains,
the
practical
difficulties
do
exist
to
increase
that
maximum
fa
are
due
to
the
floodplain
designation
of
the
property.
The
applicant
is
not
able
to
provide
or
the
a
penis
required
to
raise
the
building
up
that
reduces
the
ability
to
provide
additional
residential
amenities
or
other
things
that
where
the
vault
is
located
above
ground
below
grade
further,
the
applicant
of
course
wanted
to
apply
for
the
variance
to
or
I'm
sorry
the
density
bonus.
F
All
of
the
required
parking
is
required
to
be
enclosed
in
order
to
qualify
for
that
density
bonus.
In
this
case,
every
single
parking
stall
on
site
is
within
the
enclosed
building.
However,
due
to
a
shared
parking
increment,
some
of
those
required
spaces
are
surface
parking,
so
unfortunately,
we
were
not
able
to
give
the
density
bonus.
The
spirit
intent
is
certainly
met
and
that
again
everything
that
they
can
do
within
their
control
to
qualify
from
that
density.
Bonus
has
been
done
just
through
how
the
zoning
code
is
applied
in
this
manner.
F
They
are
not
able
to
qualify
for
that
particular
density
bonus.
So
a
combination
of
the
floodplain
designation
and
then
the
shared
cooking
agreement
staff
finds
the
practical
difficulties
to
exist
and
also
that
the
proposed
variance
you
increase
the
FA
are
is
consistent
with
the
spirit
intent
of
the
ordinance
the
applicant
is
provided
so
for
staff
finds
that
the
proposed
variance
to
increase
FA
are
will
not
alter
the
essential
character,
the
locality
or
B
interest,
and
you
send
enjoyment
of
other
property
in
the
vicinity
again
relating
back
to
allowing
a
maximum
2.45.
F
F
So
staff
found
that
the
that
the
wood
looking
metal
sighting
and
facing
Longfellow
the
intent
our
understanding
is,
is
to
make
the
residential
side
of
the
building
look
different
from
the
commercial
sides
of
the
building
facing
cedar,
north
and
south,
and
so
they've
introduced
a
fourth
material
on
the
Longfellow
side
on
the
East
elevation
staff
is
recommending
that
that
be
reduced
to
the
point,
where
it's
more
of
an
accent
material
to
make
the
building
look
consistent
on
all
four
sides
and
then
and
then
again,
not
using
more
than
three
exterior
materials.
Staff.
F
H
F
Greater
than
25
I
believe
it's.
Let
me
find
that.
F
H
R
H
F
Be
correct,
I
think
we'll
probably
have
to
have
the
applicant
make
sure
that
we're
doing
those
calculations
correctly
for
the
minimum
distance.
We
may
have
to
consider
alternative
compliance
in
that
case,
because
if
the
sidewalk
elevation
is
much
lower
than
otherwise
would
be,
it
would
be
difficult
to
comply
with
a
four
to
seven
feet.
Well,.
F
The
applicant
is
showing
an
elevation
of
100
feet
from
the
difference
of
three
feet
from
the
public
sidewalk
and
they
are
showing
windows
at
that
100
level
so
as
proposed,
it
appears
as
though
it
would
comply.
What
we
have
asked
as
a
condition
of
approval,
which
is
standard
with
grocery
stores
and
uses
of
the
same,
is
a
merchandising
plan
to
ensure
that.
H
O
F
These
are
the
three
facades
this
facade
here
in
the
middle
is
what
faces
Cedar
Avenue,
that's
the
West
facade.
This
is
the
North
elevation
that
would
face
the
surface
parking,
cork,
dork
and
carbone's.
This
is
the
South
facade
that
would
face
the
Granville
Creamery
caribou.
These
three
facades
all
have
consistent
materials
on
all
three
sides.
When
we
go
to
the
Longfellow
elevation
which
faces
east,
you
can
see
that
they
introduced
this
wood
looking
material
and
inside
it's
at
a
percentage.
AH
Thank
you,
Gianni
Carlson,
the
applicant
of
Trammell
Krause,
700
commerce,
drive
Oak,
Brook
Illinois.
Thank
you
very
much
Anna
and
thank
you
for
your
time
this
evening.
We're
excited
to
talk
to
you
about
a
project
that
we
were
working
on
with
staff
and
had
a
neighborhood
meeting
and
had
a
meeting
with
cow.
About
a
month
ago
we
took
all
your
feedback
to
heart.
We
met
with
our
team.
We've
met
with
consultants
and
I.
Think
Lucas
and
Neil
are
gonna.
AH
Do
a
good
job
of
walking
you
through
some
of
the
changes
that
we've
made
in
response
to
some
of
the
feedback
we
heard
directly
from
your
team
before
I
go
into
just
introducing
the
team.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
here
for
questions,
but
ESG
architects
is
here:
they're
gonna
walk
through
a
brief
overview.
AH
So
if
you
have
any
operational
questions,
anything
about
their
business,
how
they
work
with
the
community
to
hire
and
and
such
we're
really
excited
to
have
them
in
our
ground
floor
and
be
a
unique
tenant
for
the
neighborhood,
and
obviously
this
process
has
to
take
shape,
but
we're
all
here
for
questions.
So
with
that
I'm
gonna
invite
Lucas
been
sitting
up
with
the
ESG
to
walk
you
through
some
of
the
modifications.
AI
Washington
East,
so
we
read
this
project,
many
of
you
on
March
28th,
that's
committee
the
whole,
so
we
want
to
go
for
a
few
brief
project
changes
we've
made
since
then,
as
well
as
feedback
from
city
staff
and
through
the
initial
PDI
process.
So
first
item
would
be
the
we
had
some
feedback
that
the
width
of
the
curb
entrance
along
cedar.
So
this
is
I'm
pointing
out
right
here
previously
was
previous,
is
22
feet
wide
and
now
has
been
reduced
to
16
feet.
AI
So
when
denote
that
change,
one
thing
that
was
noted
from
staff,
as
well
as
from
the
Commissioner
cow,
was
more
bike
parking
locations.
So
thank
you.
We've
added
a
few
on
the
southwest
corner
of
the
prop
of
the
property,
so
we
made
a
couple
modifications
there,
which
I'll
talk
about
in
a
second
but
addition
of
bike
parking
there
that
you
can
additionally
see
the
other
two
areas
there,
and
this
is
the
really
the
bike
parking
to
serve
the
grocer.
The
residential
bike
parking
is
handled
on
a
different
floor
within
the
building.
AJ
You
can
see
kind
of
breaking
down
the
scale
at
the
steps
where
there's
sort
of
another
step,
and
that
could
be
the
intent
is
that
there's
sort
of
a
seat
rapping
along
and
then
back
at
the
inset
there
and
then
out
and
then
also
adding
some
sort
of
plantings
at
the
entry
that
are
kind
of
softened
materiality
there
and
another
element
that
you
can
see
in
this
image.
Is
we
previously
had
an
art
wall
at
that
inset?
AJ
AI
So
next
item
that
was
changed
came
out
of
pub
with
Public
Works.
We
had
a
outboard
stair
and
stoop
coming
from
an
emergency
egress
stair
shaft,
a
long
cedar
we've
since
moved
that
inboard
and
incorporated
in
art
wall
that
you
can
see
there
so
that
that
stair
exiting
is
happening
kind
of
underneath
the
levels
you
know
the
upper
levels
of
the
building
at
and
that's
happening
there
level,
one
all
our
doors,
as
noted
by
staff.
AI
AI
What
we
will
straighten
here,
I'd
like
to
show,
is
following
a
preliminary
code
review
meeting
with
the
city
we
been
through
our
own
evaluation.
We
really
needed
to
do
two
accessible
entrances,
so
we
got
it
a
slope
walk
at
the
corner
of
the
northwest
part
of
the
building,
so
this
really
makes
the
northwest
entry
to
the
grocery
there's
two
entries
to
the
grocery
one
at
the
midpoint
in
the
covered
portion
of
the
grocery
parking
and
then
one
at
the
northwest
corner.
AJ
So
the
East
facade
is
another
facade
that
we
gave
more
attention
to
the
detail.
Here.
You
can
see
that
there's
we
previously
had
kind
of
an
art
wall
expression
there,
which
we
still
do
and
we've
kind
of
made
it
a
little
bit
more
granular
rather
than
a
larger
images,
and
we
do
plan
to
work
with
an
artist
to
further
develop
this,
but
some
other
things
that
we
did
to
bring
down.
AJ
AJ
And
then
this
would
be
looking
kind
of
from
the
other
direction
and
as
as
Shanna
mentioned,
you
can
see
kind
of
the
would
look
along
the
top.
We
would
like
to
work
with
staff
on
that.
It's
it's
regarded
as
a
primary
material
because
of
the
amount
of
it
and
I
think
that's
something
we
can
work
with
them
on
use
another
material
there,
so
that
that
doesn't
become
considered
a
primary
material.
AJ
The
the
other
piece
we
looked
at
here
we
looked
at
wrapping
as
staff
had
mentioned,
wrapping
that
kind
of
trellis
expression
around
the
building,
and
we
looked
at
it
and
what
it
does
for
the
overall
composition.
Is
it
sort
of
joins
and
makes
it
look
like
one
larger
thing,
rather
than
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
at
the
grocery
really
call
that
out
as
something
special
and
kind
of
break
down
the
scale
of
it
by
using
that
and
and
it's
more
of
a
wayfinding
piece
to
say
this
is
grocery.
AJ
So
what
we
did
do
is
add
a
similar
element
at
the
lobby
facade
a
different
color
but
kind
of
a
similar
look
to
say
this
is
lobby
just
to
both
respond
to
the
comment
at
community
of
the
whole.
Of
that
second
story
is
kind
of
being
not
quite
there,
but
then
also
to
respond
to
staff
as
well.
To
give
a
little
more
of
that
look
on
this
facade.
AI
H
AJ
AJ
AE
H
AJ
AI
R
H
L
L
So
I
guess
the
majority
the
site
does
drain
to
Longfellow,
so
we're
maintaining
that
by
putting
our
stormwater
system
in
the
northeast
corner
between
our
building
columns,
so
it'll
be
enlarged,
underground
pipes
beneath
the
parking
and
there'll,
be
it
their
treatment.
Manholes
to
me,
so
are
you
taking.
H
L
L
Well,
so,
due
to
our
site,
constraints
were
not
able
to
do
infiltration,
so
we
have
a
treatment
manhole
that
will
filter
the
water.
Essentially,
we've
used
this
device
several
times
in
the
city
of
Minneapolis
before,
but
there
will
be
about
a
thousand
feet
of
pipe
that
will
you
know
slow
down
the
water
and
slowly
release
it
into
this
treatment.
Manhole
that
filters
it
slowly
so
in
your
small
urban
solovey
runoff
will
be
from
the
off-site
from
the
Carboni
site
and
from
the
new
building
will
be
filtered
through
that
device.
L
A
A
A
AK
My
name
is
Andrew
all
good
I
live
at
24,
16
he's
43rd
I'm
a
25
year
resident
in
the
neighborhood
I,
actually
am
kind
of
excited
about
some
progress
in
our
neighborhood.
However,
I'm
extremely
concerned
about
the
height
of
the
project
that
bothers
me
from
a
standpoint
from
that
is
our
park
system.
This
is
our
Minnehaha
Park.
It
is
butts
up
along
it
and
I
think
this
is
starting
a
strange
precedence
for
our
park
system
that
we're
going
to
be
having
large
72
foot
buildings
on
the
edge
of
our
parks.
AK
If
it
was
a
little
bit
of
a
variance,
I
would
understand
that
and
accept
that,
but
the
72
feet
is
what
I
find
extremely
concerning
I'm,
also
very
concerned
about
the
traffic.
If
you
guys
ever
drive
down
Cedar
Avenue,
especially
these
days
on
a
Friday
or
a
Saturday,
it
is
a
challenge
to
get
out
of
Cedar,
Avenue
and
I'm
afraid
what
a
hundred
and
thirty
more
residential
units
will
add
to
the
traffic
on
Cedar
Avenue,
specifically
again.
I
just
want
to
mention
that
this
is
our
Park
System.
AK
The
ELSA
thing
I'm
concerned
about
is
the
flood
plain.
We
all
do
know
that
this
is
right
next
to
Hiawatha,
Golf
Course,
which
is
under
much
controversy
for
experia,
very
for
all
of
its
flood
issues
that
are
going
on
right
now
and
I
am
concerned
about
the
flood
additional
water,
with
the
reducing
of
whatever
the
green
area
would
be
there
for
it.
So
on.
That's
all
thank.
AL
Carroll
circeland
and
I
live
at
51,
48,
Elliott,
Avenue,
south
and
growing
up
on
the
east
side
of
Lake
Nokomis
and
now
live
on
the
west
side
of
Lake
Nokomis,
so
I
know
the
area
very
well,
and
a
couple
of
my
concerns
are
the
the
runoff
to
the
creek,
and
so
one
of
my
examples,
I'm
sure
you
have
to
go
through
a
lot
of
the
storm
water,
but
it's
like.
Could
there
be
a
rain
garden
on
the
roof
of
this
facility
so
that
it
would
prevent
when
we
have
these
really
heavy
rainfalls?
AL
AL
So
people
coming
in
and
out
so
one
of
the
safety
considerations
is
I,
didn't
see
anything
in
the
design
that
accounts
for
people
on
bikes
and
on
foot
actually
coming
from
the
trail
and
to
the
facility
or
to
the
residents,
and
so
now
what
you
have
I
mean
I
think
there's
a
small
site,
there's
a
small
sidewalk
there
now
and
that
sidewalk
isn't
going
to
get
any
bigger.
So
now
you
have
a
really
dangerous
situation
where
people
more
people
more
bikers
and
more
pedestrians
are
trying
to
get
from
the
creek.
AL
The
trail
that
they're
using
and
to
this
facility
or
to
Clark,
dark
or
to
carbone's,
and
so
it
just
seems
like
having
those
setbacks
right
up
to
the
sidewalk
on
both
sides
and
on
all
sides
of
the
facility
creates
a
really
dangerous
situation
for
that
increased
bike
pad
traffic.
That
you're
counting
on.
AL
Engineering,
that's
going
to
be
added
to
the
parkway
and
cedar
and
I
saw
in
the
Kimberly
horn
report
that
at
one
of
the
think
it's
the
am
peak.
It's
going
to
go
it's
already
at
C,
it's
gonna
go
to
D,
so
it
seems
like
the
developer
could
also
pitch
in
on
making
some
mitigation
for
traffic
situations
at
Cedar
and
the
Parkway.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
AM
AM
Just
kind
of
sidestep
that
but
I
just
want
to
say-
and
my
concern
is
that
there's
too
much
traffic
moving
too
fast
and
I'm
eager
to
see
things
that
change
that
and
honestly
I
think
this
project
would
have
a
huge
benefit
in
that
regard,
because
it
moves
the
street
closer
in
to
that'll,
be
a
wedge
life
clip
move
the
street
walk
closer
to
to
the
public
right
away
it.
It
does
a
lot
of
other
enhancements
for
walkability
I'm
thankful
for
Commissioner
krons,
our
being
so
aware
and
focused
on
that
and
the
city
staff.
AM
This
project,
you
know
I,
submitted
a
lot
of
knits
to
pick
in
there
but
overall
picture.
This
is
a
slam
dunk!
It's
something!
I've
been
waiting
on
a
long
time
in
my
neighborhood
that
parking
lot.
That
is
there
today
has
a
lot
of
drainage
and
water
issues.
It's
flooded,
half
the
time
it
seems,
there's
standing
water
in
the
part
of
the
parking
lot.
AM
That
looks
like
it's
that's
a
completely
separate
thing
to
this,
but
it
would
lead
right
to
the
front
door
there,
as
somebody
who
lives
to
the
west
I'm
excited
to
see
safer
crossing
they're
also.
At
the
same
time,
the
park
board
is
planned
as
part
of
their
Nokomis
Hiawatha
Regional
Park
plan
of
2015,
a
new
trail
on
the
east
side
of
the
east
side
of
Longfellow
Avenue,
there's
an
opportunity
for
a
crossing
there
as
well
so
happy
to
talk
more
in
the
future,
but
in
the
interest
of
a
short
meeting
and
someone
offer
my
support.
AM
AN
AN
AN
It's
created.
I
also
want
to
note
that
the
project
is
projected
to
produce
two
hundred
and
twelve
thousand
dollars
in
park.
Dedications
fees,
which
will
help
bring
us
lots
of
improvements
in
the
area,
and
it
will
also
generate
millions
of
dollars
in
property
tax
revenue,
which
will
help
us
sustain
those
improvements.
AN
Also,
just
speaking
as
an
individual
I
wanted
to
come
speak
in
favor
of
this,
because
this
is
the
type
of
place
where
I
would
love
to
live
immediately
above
a
grocery
store,
because
then
you
know
during
the
winter,
you
can
go
right
downstairs
in
your
shorts.
The
grocery
store
is
your
pantry,
and
you
know
that
would
reduce
food
waste
and
you
can
get
queries
immediately.
AN
It's
the
type
of
place
that
I
think
would
be
a
great
location,
for
example,
for
seniors
to
live.
You
know
they
wouldn't
have
to
worry
about
things
like
shoveling
snow
and
they
would
have
groceries
immediately
their
shops
nearby
and
they
could
walk
around
on
the
Parkway.
It
would
also
be
great
for
young
professionals
who
I
could
get
to
work
on
the
d-line
once
that's
built.
I
did
want
to
push
the
developer
to
go
further
on
that,
and
hopefully
the
Commission
would
approve
it
because
you
know
you're
gonna.
AN
If
you
build
more
parking,
then
you're
gonna
get
more
cars,
you'll
get
more
congestion
on
the
road.
If
you
build
less,
then
you'll
get
more
transit
users
and
in
addition
to
seeing
more,
you
know,
grocery
store
customers.
I'd
like
to
see
more
d-line
customers,
because
that
will
help
make
the
d-line
more
successful
and
I
would
also
like
push
to
add
as
many
people
as
you
can,
because
that
is
what
will
help
make
the
grocery
store.
AN
AO
Hi,
my
name
is
Jerry
Mullen
and
I
live
at
46
20
on
fellow
Avenue,
so
I'm
a
20-year
resident
of
Milan
fellow
Avenue
and
I
live
five
houses
up
from
the
proposed
redevelopment.
After
speaking
with
a
lot
of
my
neighbors
along
our
block,
we're
excited
for
the
possibilities
of
what
this
site
can
be.
That
said,
we
have
reservations
about
the
current
proposal
and
we
don't
think
the
City
Planning
Commission
should
approve
the
current
version
of
these
plans.
AO
The
Commission
should
take
some
more
time
with
the
neighbors
and
the
developer
to
create
a
proposal
that
better
reflects
this
height.
This
desirable,
neighborhood
location,
location
of
this
property
is
very
unique,
isn't
just
an
average
South
Minneapolis
corner
at
the
same
time,
it's
not
uptown
and
it's
not
dinky
town.
The
intersection
is
Cedar
and
many
high
as
a
small
commercial
node
along
Minnehaha
Parkway
steps
from
Lake,
Nokomis
and
Hiawatha.
It's
adjacent
to
a
public
golf
course,
and
it's
a
diverse
residential
neighborhood.
AO
It's
a
residential
neighborhood
that
we're
talking
about
the
shape
of
this
new
housing
development
and
we
need
to
shape
it
into
something
that
fits
in
and
reflects
these
natural
amenities,
and
so
the
neighborhood
wants
the
development
to
be
in
character
with
the
surroundings
in
this
location.
I
think
it
has
a
corridor
for
designation
in
the
very
recently
adapted
2040
plan
and
that
corridor
for
designation
means
that
the
redevelopment
should
reflect
a
variety
of
building
types
on
both
small
and
moderate
sized
Lots
with
building
heights
of
one
to
four
stories.
AO
So
the
redevelopment
should
follow
the
2040
plan,
a
set
of
ideas
which
the
city
spent
a
lot
of
time
creating
and
which
was
just
tentatively,
approved,
I,
think
the
maximum
height
of
this
development
should
be
three
or
four
storeys.
If
the
developer
says
the
cost
is
driving
the
addition
of
a
fifth
story,
then
we
need
to
explore
other
ways
to
help
the
developer.
Make
the
project
work.
Lungs
and
Byerly's
is
a
strong,
dependable
tenant
for
the
first
floor.
So
the
developer
shouldn't
take
that
big
of
a
hit.
AO
AO
It
looks
kind
of,
like
the
other
four
to
five
Trammell
Crowe
developments
around
the
Twin
Cities,
which
are
located
along
large
stair,
large-scale
corridors
like
the
394
corridor
and
North
Loop.
It
doesn't
fit
in
with
the
unique
park-like
setting
of
our
neighborhood.
It
should
be
brick
or
similar,
and
the
upper
storeys
should
be
tapered
back.
So
the
structure
doesn't
look
so
massive
and
if
you
look
around
the
neighborhood
for
design
cues
such
as
the
stone
of
the
Holy
Cross
Church
to
the
west,
the
bungalow
style
of
many
of
the
homes.
AO
The
golf
course
clubhouse,
the
brick
meet
its
facility
at
the
park
board,
there's
just
across
the
street
they
all
blend
in.
So
you
can't
see
him.
This
is
gonna,
be
a
white
structure
well
above
the
tree
line.
There's
no
affordable
housing
component
to
this
development.
Besides
the
grocery
store,
how
are
the
neighborhood
residents
benefiting
from
this
again
redesign?
The
building
to
be
more
in
scale
with
the
neighborhood
and
it
sounds
like
they've
kind
of
tapered
back
the
murals,
which
doesn't
seem
to
fit
with
this
portion.
AO
I
mean
I,
love
the
murals,
long
Nicolette
Avenue
between
Lake
and
46.
They
look
great
in
a
busy
commercial
scape,
but
not
this
residential
neighborhood
next
to
parkland.
So.
Finally,
the
last
issue,
as
always
as
you've
heard
throughout
today,
is
the
parking
and
the
traffic
and
the
residential
driveway
developments
along
Longfellow
Avenue
in
the
truck.
The
traffic
study
indicates
that
cars
will
use
47th
Street
to
access
cedar.
That's
the
street
just
north
of
the
development,
and
that
couldn't
be
further
from
the
truth.
They
won't
use
that
you
can't
I
live
five
houses
up
from
that.
AO
AO
This
development
is
going
to
add
to
traffic
on
Longfellow
Avenue,
which
is
our
street,
which
is
a
cut
off
from
46
down
to
the
parkway,
and
the
city
needs
to
address
that
before
we
go
ahead
with
these
plans
or
the
you
know,
it
should
be
part
of
the
conditional
use
permit
to
mitigate
the
traffic
problems
in
the
cut
through
on
Longfellow
Avenue.
You
know,
I'm
offered,
transit
and
all
that,
but
the
transit
corridors
here
are
Minnehaha
Parkway.
AO
They
don't
allow
public
transportation
on
that
and
Cedar
Avenue,
and
that
section
of
Cedar
doesn't
allow
public
transportation
because
of
the
congestion.
So
I.
Don't
think
that
that's
realistic
I
mean
I
would
like
it.
If
there
you
know
light-rail
or
whatever,
but
that's
not.
What
is
there
and
it's
not
what's
possible.
The
reason
we
put
speed
bumps
on
Longfellow
Avenue
20
years
ago
is
because
the
city
did
a
large
traffic
study
in
our
area
traffic
study
in
our
area
and
found
that
it's
a
huge
problem.
AO
So
they
put
speed
bumps
on
our
street
you're,
adding
to
the
congestion
the
surface
parking
which
is
going
to
narrow
the
streets
plus
everyone
that
lives
to
the
north
of
the
golf
course
and
those
neighborhoods
uses
Longfellow
Avenue
get
to
the
Parkway
into
the
lake
so
that
everything
funnels
down
through
Longfellow.
So
it's
highly
traffic
pedestrian
area
and
this
development
is
going
to
cause
problems
for
that.
We're
not
against
the
development
were
against
the
size
of
it.
Thanks.
AG
Hi,
my
name
is
Sarah
Connor
and
I
live
at
46,
28
Longfellow,
just
three
houses
down
from
where
this
is
gonna,
go
again.
I
like
the
grocery
store
I
like
the
development.
This
is
so
out
of
scale.
It's
gonna
change
the
whole
character
of
our
neighborhood.
A
hundred
and
thirty
units
people
were
so
distressed
about
the
nineteen
units
and
how
much
that
was
gonna
change.
This
is
a
hundred
and
thirty
units
and
the
recommendation
is
for
two
and
a
half
stories.
That's
what
we
have
right
now.
AG
This
doubles
that
I
was
flabbergasted
when
I
heard
that
this
was
even
being
proposed.
I
live
in
Minneapolis
I,
walk,
I
like
to
be
able
to
go
to
a
grocery
store;
I,
don't
want
a
hundred
and
thirty
new
neighbors
in
the
parking
that
they're,
proposing,
buns
and
Byerly's
is
fabulous.
People
are
gonna,
go
there;
they're
not
gonna,
be
able
to
park
on
theater
they're,
not
gonna,
be
able
to
park
on
the
parkway
they're
gonna
park
in
front
of
my
house
all
the
time.
AG
A
hundred
and
thirty
units,
a
grocery
store
where
the
development
is
gonna,
take
away
at
lots
and
lots
of
existing
parking
and
then
they're
gonna
share
the
stuff
with
carbone's
in
court
org.
It
already
gets
full,
it
already
is
stressed
out
and
people
bike,
people
walk,
people
are
gonna
drive
to
lungs
and
Byerly's,
and
they
need
to
have
a
place
to
go,
and
this
doesn't
address
that
I
love,
my
house,
I
love,
my
neighborhood
I'm,
afraid
of
something
going
so
far
out
of
the
guidelines.
A
hundred
and
thirty
units
in
a
new
grocery
store.
AG
AP
Four:
nine
through
an
18th
Avenue
South,
so
we're
just
on
the
south
side
of
the
creek
from
this,
and
we
we
moved
there
because
it's
a
grocery
store,
so
we're
really
excited
to
see
their
grocery
store,
get
an
upgrade
Avenue
in
better
grocery
store
and
we're
looking
forward
to
having
more
neighbors
traffic
is
always
a
thing.
The
way
you
reduce
traffic,
if
you
let
people
live
above
a
grocery
store,
they
don't
have
to
drive
for
everything
they
need
to
do
this.
It's
already
grocery
store.
It
already
gets
traffic.
AP
It's
not
gonna,
make
much
difference
there,
we'll
probably
be
able
to
see
it
from
our
house.
We're
slightly
uphill,
so
we'll
probably
will
see
it
from
our
backyard.
Oh
well,
it's
a
building.
We
live
in
the
city,
we
need
the
nice
thing
from
the
city,
and
this
looks
really
good.
So
I
just
want
to
speak
in
support.
Thank.
A
B
AQ
AQ
There
is
an
existing
grocery
store
there.
So
the
addition
of
the
trips
looking
at
grocery
store
to
grocery
store
are
27
additional
trips
in
the
a.m.
Peak
hour
and
38
in
the
p.m.
so
keep
in
mind.
Cedar
obvious
is
a
busy
road
there's
about
18,000
trips
per
day.
So
that's
you
know
negligible
amount.
When
you
look
in
the
grand
scheme
of
things,
I'm
gonna
try
to
hit
on
a
couple
comments.
AQ
I
heard
so
one
of
the
level
of
service
delay,
so
all
of
the
intersections
that
were
analyzed
as
part
of
this
project
remain
their
existing
level
of
service,
except
for
Minnehaha,
Parkway
and
cedar,
which
increases
from
a
C
to
D
in
it's
a
peak
hour
and
that's
for
an
increase
of
1.4
seconds.
So
yes,
it
does
kick
it
to
the
next
level,
but
it
still
is
relatively
minor.
AQ
B
You
don't
like
on
that
point
like
what
are
you
looking
at
to
not
have
that
cuz
I
mean
that's,
not
a
if
you
live
there.
That's
not
a
great
answer.
You
know
and
I
understand
those
aren't
conditions
that
you
know.
Did
it
start
it
you
inherited
to
see
what
are
you,
what
kind
of
things
are
you
looking
at
to
make
that
a
little
bit
safer
so.
AQ
Conversations
with
the
city
and
what
I've
been
told
is
that
the
signal
at
Minnehaha
and
cedar
is
under
review
for
improvements
anyways,
so
that
in
the
near
future
that
that
signal
is
going
to
be
improved,
since
it's
known
to
have
congestion
right
now
that
will
be
included
in
the
future
improvements.
So
it
has
been
talked
about.
Okay,.
B
AQ
Yep,
you
know
certainly
do
that
and
then
the
last
thing
I'll
say
too,
is
that
the
the
residential
traffic,
because
of
how
the
parking
of
a
second
level
situated
it's
gonna,
extend
onto
Longfellow
and
just
by
people
trying
to
take
the
path
of
least
resistance.
Most
people,
whether
they're
heading
to
62
or
not,
are
gonna,
take
a
right
out
and
go
to
how
many
Minnehaha
Park
way
to
get
to
the
signalized
intersection,
as
opposed
to
the
non
signalized
intersection
at
47th
and
cedar.
AQ
I
could
touch
on
it
and
from
from
two
different
standpoints.
One
within
the
travel
demand
management
plan,
multi
train,
multimodal
trips
are
looked
at,
so
it's
looked
at.
You
know
what
we
think,
how
many
people
are
gonna
come
via
bike
or
transit,
or
everything
else
to
look
at
parking
and
requirements,
and
what
else
is
needed
so
internally?
It
evaluates
how
many
spots
are
needed
for
bike
parking
and
such
on-site
for
more
of
a
site
standpoint.
AQ
We
are
bounded,
especially
on
the
seedier
side,
in
the
middle
of
a
block.
You
know
we're
not
at
the
intersection
of
Minnehaha
and
cedar
or
47th
and
cedar.
So
what
we've
done
is
trying
to
mean
as
wide
of
sidewalks
as
we
possibly
can,
where
it's
directly
adjacent
to
the
site.
Our
hands
are
a
little
bit
tied
in
that
you
know
we
don't
have
purview
over
what's
done
across
the
street
or
in
Cedar
Avenue.
AQ
However,
I
respect
what
Matt
had
to
say
about
what
has
been
trying
to
do
from
a
neighborhood
perspective
of
trying
to
get
work
with
the
county
and
trying
to
get
a
crosswalk
put
in
a
block
on
Cedar.
So
we've
tried
to
do
the
best
we
can
of
everything
that
we
can
control
on
our
site
and
directly
adjacent
to
it.
AH
Come
on,
if
I
had
one
comment
to
that,
all
right,
so
we've
been
in
Corsa,
corresponding
with
Matt
and
some
of
the
neighbors
on
just
designing
our
project
with
fluidity,
because
we
know
that
certain
things
happen
sooner
than
some
of
the
capital
improvements
and
some
of
the
plans
are
going
to
be
happening,
so
we've
overlaid
some
of
their
initial
drawings
for
crosswalks,
with
flashers
and
etc.
So
the
north
side
of
our
east-west
road,
we
are
designed
so
in
the
event
that
the
county
or
the
city
decides
to
bump
out
those
areas.
AH
It
doesn't
infringe
upon
our
entrance
to
the
building
and
view
corridors.
We've
also
run
numerous
turning
radius
as
if
there's
ever
going
to
be
in
the
middle
of
the
lane
and
landscape
up
for
a
turn
lane
median.
So
it
works
to
allow
for
that
future
flexibility
and
we're
all
for
crosswalk
improvements.
This
is
a
rental
building.
This
is
not
an
ownership.
We
don't
build.
This,
fill
it
and
walk
away.
AH
We
are
going
to
be
renewing
leases
and
making
sure
people
are
safe
and
friendly
and
then,
furthermore,
the
ones
just
like
us,
they
were
very
cognizant
of
safety.
People
need
to
go
their
shop,
their
steward
to
the
community
and
we're
going
to
work
with
them
and
the
and
the
neighbors
as
plans
evolve,
we're
just
a
little
bit
ahead
of
some
of
the
plans
that
Matt
and
team
have
recommended,
but
we're
all
for
it
and
we
agree.
Safety
is
key.
I.
O
Appreciate
that
and
like
councilmember
Schrader
suggested,
keep
working
with
the
city.
I
have
a
question
a
stormwater,
so
the
stormwater
control
I
appreciate
that
you're
managing
stormwater
from
off
your
site.
It
sounds
like
which
is
great.
It's
an
improvement
overall,
as
one
of
the
common
are
suggested.
Did
you
consider
anything
other
than
just
the
mechanical
stormwater
management
such
as
green
roofs
or
other
amenities
or
other
stormwater
features
that
confront
an
amenity?
That's.
AH
A
great
pretty
common,
so
given
the
groundwater
is
about
three
feet
below
the
foundations,
were
really
driven
to
one
means
and
methods
to
hold
and
then
slowly
release
the
stormwater.
So
that's
a
layman's
terms.
A
jellyfish
system
that
basically
collects
water
from
the
roof
down
the
gutter
into
the
system
also
collects
rainwater
from
on-site
and
then
slowly
releases
it.
In
addition,
we're
improving
the
neighbors
parking
lot,
so
we're
going
to
bring
their
standards
above
and
beyond.
AH
What
currently
is
grandfathered
in,
so
the
existing
conditions
is
basically
almost
100
percent
of
surface
parking
lot
with
buildings
that
are
grandfathered
in
under
the
previous
code
and
previous
watershed
requirements,
so
we're
gonna
upgrade
theirs
and
ours
to
collect
and
release
to
the
two-inch
that
that
was
mentioned.
So
I
think
we
are
we're
limited
with
site
area,
but
going
down
and
bigger
vaults
and
doing
certain
things.
AH
There's
really
a
system
that
has
to
float
above
the
water
table,
collect
and
release,
but
I
think
as
stringent
as
all
of
them
were
well
above
just
given
that
we're
collecting
and
cleaning
and
releasing
at
a
slower
rate
into
the
system
and
right
now
the
conditions
are
not
ideal.
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
other
items
that
you
want
to
add,
but
that's
I.
A
Think
we
sure
has
any
other
questions
or
comments.
Just
a
second
creature,
crunches
yeah
I
think
that's
a
first
another.
H
AH
A
AK
AH
We
can
we
tried
to
bifurcate
the
retail
and
residential
entrances.
So
when
you
live
there,
you
know
where
to
drive
in
the
evening
hours.
You
know
the
traffic
patterns.
These
are
not
people
not
knowing
where
to
go.
So
we've
added
the
intersection
on
Longfellow
for
all
the
residents
to
enter,
and
then
we
wanted
to
have
dual
points,
so
we
have
three
points
for
the
retailer
patrons
and
we've.
AH
Furthermore,
a
lot
of
the
questions
regarding
loading
we've
actually
enclosed
those
from
view
corridors,
we've
put
them
on
the
south
side
of
the
site
and
we've
made
sure
all
the
turning
radius
has
happened
within
our
sites.
There's
no
three-point
turns
there's
no
backing
in
you
pull
in
and
you
leave
and
you
have
an
easy
exit
and
working
with
ones.
They
study
this
they've
sent
this
to
their
delivery
trucks.
These
are
early
early
evening,
drop-offs
and
pickups
for
deliveries.
O
AJ
AJ
J
J
J
A
M
J
J
On
this
one
I'll
and
I
do
think
this
is
a
unique
circumstance
with
the
location
and
the
floodplain
and
the
need
for
changing
the
elevation.
Here,
it's
not
possible
to
do
underground
parking,
which
would
allow
for
a
higher
f
AR
at
this
location.
So
I
think
there
are
some
unique
conditions
present
at
this
site.
No.
A
M
J
A
H
Conditions:
six
I'm
in
response
to
someone
what
the
applicant
is
asking
for,
adding
to
the
back
of
that
and
she'll
work
with
staff
to
introduce
a
limited
amount
of
metal,
siding
on
the
east
elevation.
So
responding
to
that
request
for
the
metal
siding
on
the
east
side,
the
work
with
staff
condition
replacing
conditions
seven
with
a
new
modified
condition.
The
would
like
screen
shall
be
installed
per
the
elevations
presented
at
this
hearing
tonight,
with
the
addition
of
it
being
extended
along
the
entire
South
elevation.
H
I
can
speak
that
a
second
and
then
a
new
condition.
12
go
here.
We
go.
The
window
shall
be
installed
where
the
art
mural
was
as
presented
tonight,
Jason
to
the
main
entry
I
just
want
to
capture
that,
as
as
a
condition
yeah
Thank,
You
Gretchen.
That's
a
really
important
change,
which
I
was
happy
to
see
tonight.
Providing
that
visibility
where
that
outdoor
seating
is
oh,
really
activate
that
Street
front
and
the
pedestrian
environment.
G
H
N
N
N
We
have
discussed
this
project
two
previously
at
the
committee
the
whole,
although
I
believe
there
are
some
new
Commission
commissioners
since
that
took
place.
So
I'll
give
a
brief
overview
of
the
project.
It's
a
large
complicated
project,
so
I
won't
get
too
far
into
detail,
but
I'm
happy
to
answer
specific
questions,
and
also
the
applicant
is
here
to
answer
questions
specifically
about
the
design.
The
site
is
currently
zoned
for
the
I
1
industrial
district
with
the
industrial
living
overlay.
N
N
This
is
an
aerial
overview
that
shows
Expo
in
the
background
and
then
the
proposed
development
in
the
foreground.
You
can
see
that
the
two
principal
residential
structures
are
basically
equivalent
to
typical
Minneapolis
city
blocks
and
then
there
is
proposed
proposed
reconnection
of
the
fourth
Avenue
South
East
right-of-way
through
the
site,
which
will
be
owned
and
maintained
and
operated
as
a
private
street
with
public
access,
another
aerial
view
of
the
site
showing
the
expo
to
the
right
hand
side
of
the
screen.
This
is
looking
towards
the
st.
N
N
N
Residence
units
walk
up
residence
units
and
residential
amenity
space,
and
then
the
applicant
is
requesting
and
we're
recommending
that
they
are
granted
five
points
for
re-establishing
the
4th
Avenue
South
East
right-of-way
as
a
desired
connection
that
is
articulated
in
the
small
area
plan
and
that
supports
larger,
comprehensive
plan
goals.
So
again,
I
won't
get
too
far
into
the
details.
The
applicant
is
here
I'm
happy
to
try
to
answer
any
questions,
or
we
can
let
them
get
a
little
bit
further
into
the
project.
A
B
N
In
this
case,
the
applicant
is
interested
in
maintaining
it
as
a
private
street
such
that
it
relates
to
some
of
the
adjacent
residential
uses
and
also
to
provide
a
higher
level
of
amenity
in
design
than
would
typically
be
allowed
on
a
minneapolis
public
right-of-way
Public
Works
has
very
specific
design
standards
and
would
not
generally
support
the
level
of
amenity
that
the
applicant
is
proposing.
So
staff
has
recommended
that
the
the
street
be
publicly
accessible,
but
that
have
been
maintained
by
the
applicant
essentially
well.
B
N
H
Follow
up
on
that,
and
maybe
the
applicant
says
he
gets
going
as
Public
Works
signed
off
on
the
lack
of
apron,
because
55th
Avenue
is
also
a
public
street
that
has
a
typical,
concrete
apron.
This
is
a
typical
roadway
corner.
One
and
I.
Don't
know
if
you
know
the
answer
that
too,
how
is
the
public
access
being
memorialized?
Is
there
an
easement
good?
Will
some
testimony
at
a
hearing,
I'll.
AR
AR
Treatment
and
storage
is
also
going
to
go
under
there,
which
is
extensive,
and
so
that's
very
similar
to
what
we
did
on
v
between
the
two
buildings
at
mill
and
main
that's
also
a
private
street
that
also
has
water
storage.
Under
it.
We
maintain
that
street.
That's
actually
three
different
property
owners
that
mean
that
maintain
that
Street
we
maintain
the
southern
half
the
the
soap
box,
factory
of
building
owners,
maintained,
half
or
the
other
half,
and
the
Dominion
people
that
owned
the
warehouse.
AR
Three
building
there
maintained
that
so
that
that
that's
written
in
an
agreement,
it's
a
recorded
easement.
This
would
also
be
a
recorded
easement
that
would
provide
for
public
access,
we're
specifically
precluded
from
putting
up
any
I.
Think
we
yeah.
We
have
the
right
to
put
up
a
sign
that
says
it's
a
private
drive,
but
it's
not
roll
I
mean
it's
it's
open
to
the
public.
Anybody
can
use
it.
It's
it's
available
and
the
real
reason
that
Public
Works
doesn't
want
to
have
it
be
a
public
street.
AR
Is
they
really
want
to
pay
for
it,
and
so
we
wanted
to
pay
for
the
extra
improvements
to
make
it
something
special.
There's
lots
of
streets
in
Minneapolis
actions
that
have
medians
and
Glendale
Avenue
has
meetings,
and
it
almost
you
know
almost
its
whole
length
from
certain
points
to
that.
So
there
are
streets
that
have
meetings
in
it
and
I
think
that
this
is
a
really
a
delightful
way
to
do
that,
both
short
and
long
term.
So
that's
that,
hopefully
answered
stall.
Some
questions,
okay,
I,
am
I,
think
I
think
Peter
did
an
excellent
job.
AR
We
have
a
full
set
of
information.
We
have
elevations.
If
you
want
to
see
them,
we
have
renderings.
If
you
want
to
see
them,
we
are
generally
in
support
of
the
staffs
staff
report
and
the
conditions
that
they
provided
for
under
Section,
a
that
could
for
the
conditional
use,
permit
the
three
conditions,
as
well
as
the
five
conditions
that
they
have
under
the
site
plan
review
and
as
well
as
their
recommendation
for
approval
for
the
preliminary
and
final
PLAs.
AR
We're
plotting
this
into
three
Lots,
mainly
to
make
certain
that
that
fourth
is
on
a
separate,
lock
and
the
rest
of
the
buildings,
and
that's
mainly
done
for
liability
purposes.
More
than
anything
and
we've
gone
through
this
we've
I
on
this
trip.
For
over
a
year,
we
started
out
with
meetings
back
in
May
of
2018,
we've
been
in
front
of
the
both
Historic
Preservation
Commission,
a
couple
of
times
on
a
committee
of
the
whole
as
well
as
you
folks,
a
couple
times.
We
were,
we
call
those
are
they
were
participated.
AR
We
came
back
to
the
mid
March
and
received
approval
over
the
project
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness.
So
that's
the
history
of
that
and
I
guess.
I'll!
Leave
it
at
that.
We're
here
to
answer
any
questions
and
I
would
reserve
my
right
to
comment
on
any
other
comments.
If
it
comes
up
as
we
go
but
other
than
that
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions
you
have.
B
You're
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
the
streets
as
I
think
my
worry
I'm
really
happy
to
hear
you're
adding
more
amenities,
but
the
fear
is
that
it
looks
so
nice,
no
one's
gonna
feel
like
they
can
go
down
it
and
that
it
is
gonna
feel
like
a
private
drive,
so
that
my
concerns
there
and
just
kind
of
wanted.
You
address
that
and
then
also
while
the
boulevard
is
nice
and
I'm
really
happy
to
hear
about
water
retention.
AR
AR
We
think
the
median
down
the
middle
just
does
add
a
little
bit
to
it.
I
recognize
that
I'm
hopeful
that
people
don't
are
not
intimidated
by
it
because
they
we
want
them
to
come
to
our
building.
We
want
to
do
it.
I
will
tell
you
from
our
experience
in
building
the
Expo
next
door.
We've
got
a
hard
time
keeping
people
from
driving
through
the
construction
site,
so
they
don't.
They
don't
seem
intimidated
by
too
much
in
the
neighborhood
and
they're
willing
to
persevere
through
that.
So
I
don't
think
a
finished.
A
P
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Susan
Lucci.
Oh
and
I
live
at
two
to
two
second
Street
southeast,
approximately
a
hundred
yards
from
the
expo
and
maybe
175
yards
from
the
new
construction.
The
reason
I'm
here
is
Kelly
and
his
team
have
responded
to
a
number
of
our
concerns
and
I'd
like
to
acknowledge
that
they
have
been
working
with
us
since
planning
is
in
the
official
name
of
your
commission.
P
I
would
like
to
emphasize
that
we
would
like
to
know
how
the
contractors
and
the
expansion
of
574
units
are
going
to
be
accommodated
on
a
timeframe
of
2021
when
just
year-to-date
this
year
at
the
expo,
we
have
had
17
weeks
of
after-hours
permits
and
weekend
work.
They
didn't
work
Easter
that
was
pleasant.
We
have
not
been
notified
at
all,
which
I
think
is
a
requirement.
Any
resident
is
supposed
to
be
notified
of
after
hours.
Work
I
understand
that
concrete
mixers
and
heavy
trucks
coming
into
the
city
is
has
to
be
accommodated
with
commuting
traffic.
P
However,
the
trucks
are
typically
lined
up
at
about
6:00
a.m.
they.
They
work
all
day.
There's
a
lot
of
concrete
going
in
to
the
expo
and
then
in
2021
the
Central
Avenue
Bridge
is
going
to
be
closed
so
to
meet
the
requirements
that
are
laid
forth
in
this
site
plan.
There
are
two
phases:
one
has
to
be
completed
by
2021,
the
other
by
2023.
I
would
like
to
know
as
a
resident.
What
is
the
contractor
plan
on
do?
Are
they
going
to
be
they're
gonna
be
working
every
single
weekend?
Are
we
going
to
be
notified?
P
Will
they
be
working
until
the
9:00
p.m.
or
they'll
be
starting
at
6:00
a.m.
because
that's
been
the
present
practice
since
January
17
consecutive
weeks
of
after-hours
work
as
another
exception?
Second
out
of
it,
Second
Street
southeast
is
a
small
street.
It
is
considered
a
corridor,
however,
because
a
number
of
we
have
two
events:
centers.
P
We
have
right-hand
turning
traffic
off
the
bridge,
headed
to
35w
bridge,
to
get
on
to
the
commuters,
and
so
when
the
official
commuting
hours
are
over
that
this,
the
cement
trucks
back
in
to
the
construction
site
at
the
expo,
so
they
are
blocking
the
street
entirely.
There
is
a
construction
worker
putting
out
a
sign
that
says,
stop
or
slow,
but
there
is
no
room
to
turn
around.
P
We
can
do
that,
but
I
think
on
the
front
end.
It
would
be
reasonable
to
see
what
Kelly
and
CSM,
how
are
they
going
to
deliver
on
the
requirement?
The
20/20
faith,
2021
phase
and
the
2023
plays
23
phase.
That
does
not
include
a
takeover
of
the
neighborhood.
We
also
have
to
event
centers.
We
have
the
a
male.
We
have
a
nice
array
of
restaurants.
P
A
So
I
at
all,
I
am
I
would
say
none
of
those
aren't
in
hand
directly
tied
to
the
three
applications
were
reading
today.
But
I
would
say,
after
this
hearing
to
have
a
discussion
out
in
the
hallway
about
what
the
strategy
would
be,
especially
for
a
notification
and
and
making
sure
that
it
will
be
in
compliance
and
I
think
documenting.
It
will
be
key,
then,
for
any
future
inspection
purposes.
So
it
doesn't
quite
solve
your
problem,
but
hopefully
it
helps
lead
you
in
the
right
direction.
Yeah.
P
A
Q
Q
The
mission
of
the
Commission
and
I
asked
staff
to
share
the
brochure
and
map
and
for
those
of
you,
don't
already
have
at
a
National
Park
Service
guide
for
the
River.
The
mission
is
to
preserve,
promote
and
enhance
the
Mississippi
River
throughout
the
state
of
Minnesota,
and
we
are
fortunate
to
have
the
Falls
scenic
historic
and
cultural
resources
right
here
in
this
neighborhood
and
in
this
that
affected
by
this
by
this
project.
This
is
an
historic
moment.
We
are
transitioning
from
the
last
flower
related
food-related
production
in
Minneapolis.
Q
The
Riverside
technical
plant,
with
General
Mills
plant
to
preparing
for
the
21st
century
of
our
riverfront,
were
really
excited
to
see
this
development
coming
forward
and
how
it
is
evolved
in
the
last
year.
But
as
we
transition
from
ending
this
130
year
era
of
food
production
on
the
riverfront
to
how
we
want
our
21st
century
riverfront
to
grow.
Q
The
developer
has
been
wonderful
about
listening
and
adjusting
his
project.
Accordingly,
it's
fabulous
that
this
project
supports
walkability
and
it
supports
its
on
a
transit
line,
we're
hoping
that
there'll
be
more
transit
on
that
line.
We
are
eager
to
see
better
pedestrian
crossings
because
of
the
we
hope
heavier
pedestrian
use
at
this
site
and
those
are
all
related
to
climate
change,
because
we
need
to
get
people
out
of
their
cars
and
walking
and
biking
and
using
transit.
Q
So
those
are
two
things
that
are
fabulous,
and
this
last
area
is
an
area
that
I
think
as
you
review
all
of
your
projects.
Thinking
about
the
city
having
passed
a
pollinator-friendly
policy
several
years
ago,
the
pollinator
requirements-
planting
pollinator
friendly
plants
in
public
right-of-way
have
been
in
place
for
years.
This
fourth
Avenue
connection
is
fabulous
and
what
I
ask
the
Commission
to
do
as
you
look
at
approving
the
Planned
Unit
development,
the
PUD
you
could
encourage
or
require
the
types
of
plantings
to
foster
this
sustainability
for
the
21st
century.
Q
So
specifically,
as
I
mentioned
in
the
letter
that
I
sent,
all
the
landscaping
going
in
on
this
site
is
new,
so
the
developer
will
have
to
purchase
plants.
Why
not
purchase
plants
that
are
native
friendly
and
pollinator
friendly,
they're
cheaper
to
maintain
they
have
less
water
and
put
in
cannibal
inputs
with
the
proximity
of
this
site
to
the
Mississippi,
River
and
being
within
the
Mississippi
River
critical
area.
Q
The
ecological
benefits
have
been
proven
that
even
within
a
quarter
mile
of
this
river
quarter
and
with
patches
of
habitat
that
are
within
a
quarter
mile
of
each
other,
that
is
critical
to
sustaining
native
bee
populations
that
are
vital
for
our
food
systems.
Small
scale
makes
a
difference.
The
clean
water
benefits
are
indeed
great.
This
site
is
85%
impervious
of
the
15
percent,
that
is
landscaped
and
could
be
pervious.
Q
Instead
of
going
back
and
having
the
legislature
provide
grant
funds
to
have
non-native
and
turf
converted
to
be
friendly
landscaping.
If
the
legislature
just
did
where
you
have
the
opportunity
for
a
completely
new
landscaping
plan,
be
visionary
and
think
about
the
next
generation.
So
thank
you
for
your
support
of
sustainable
growth
in
Minneapolis
and
I'd,
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
and
once
again
support
the
project
and
would
like
to
see
native
plantings,
be
added
commuter.
Q
While
I'm
not
a
landscape
architect
to
look
at
the
specific
dimensions
and
the
locations
of
plants,
the
species
list,
there
are
a
few
that
are
native
and
there
are
many
that
are
not.
There
is
turf
and
there
or
landscaping
aspects
that
are
not
native.
It
could
be
a
condition
of
the
approval
of
the
PUD
that
you
require.
Q
Maybe
the
mwm,
oh,
the
Mississippi
worship
management
organization,
to
provide
technical
assistance
to
the
developer
on
that
or
to
provide
a
list.
The
city
and
the
park
board
both
have
lists
that
we
have
used
in
other
landscaping,
that's
native
in
the
in
the
neighborhood,
so
without
being
prescriptive
about
a
species
list
to
say
being
prescriptive
about
the
pollinator,
friendly
and
native
plants.
Is
that
helpful?
Okay.
AN
Chris
Mayer
six
zero
one:
six
Street
southeast
Parker
Commissioner
for
district
1
I
welcome
having
more
neighbors
I
live
a
couple
blocks
away
from
this
site,
but
I
wanted
to
express
disappointment
with
a
few
aspects
of
the
project.
One
you
know:
I
spoke
with
the
developer
just
beforehand
about
what
Cordelia
was
talking
about
about
getting
native
plants
in
the
public
spaces,
and
you
know
he
said
that
he
refuses
the
city
can't
require
him
to
do.
That.
AN
I
appreciated
the
frankness
of
the
developer
on
that,
but
if
there's
any
way
that
you
can
put
that
in
the
PUD,
I
think
it
would
help
a
lot.
The
park
board
has
been
putting
in
a
lot
of
pollinator
friendly
areas
across
the
region
and
we
need
more
connections
between
them
to
help
make
that
a
full
system.
If
there's
not
any
way
that
you
can
put
it
in
the
PUD
I.
Hopefully
we
can
think
long
term
about
how
we
can
push
developers
to
be
putting
these
native
plants
wherever
they
can
right
now.
AN
You
know
the
developer
has
kind
of
a
poor
track
record
on
this.
I
want
the
millard
main
site.
The
area
there
is,
you
know
just
kentucky
bluegrass
like
the
sterile
luca
suburban,
could
be
a
lot
more
nature
friendly.
So
I've
encouraged
you
to
push
on
that
also
wanted
to
express
disappointment
about
what
I
consider
a
pretty
excessive
amount
of
parking,
that's
being
proposed
here
in
the
staff
report.
AN
They
listed
what
Bay's
anticipated
to
be
the
peak
amount
of
parking
that
was
required,
and
this
project
builds
more
than
that,
which
I
feel
is
not
looking
toward
the
future
of
what
this
site
could
be.
In
general,
you
know
more
people
are
using
car
sharing
to
get
around,
which
means
that
they
don't
need
to
necessarily
own
their
vehicles
anymore
and
the
Metro
Council
staff
just
recommended
adding
the
e
line.
You
know
extending
it
through
this
neighborhood
and
so
I.
AN
Would
you
know
like
to
see
more
push
towards
transit
usage
there
and,
if
they're
building
an
excessive
amount
of
parking
there,
then
we're
going
to
be
moving
in
the
opposite
direction,
so
I
just
wanted
to
share
those
two,
an
open,
your
PUD,
and
that
you
can
maybe
push
for
some
changes
to
that.
Thank.
AS
Good
evening,
commissioners,
my
name
is
Eric
Wonderlic
I
live
at
413,
Fifth,
Street,
southeast
and
I'm
here
to
talk
to
reiterate
the
the
letter
that
you
have
representing
the
Marcy
homes,
Neighborhood
Association,
so
I'm
just
going
to
quickly
go
through
these
points.
This
project
generally
follows
the
guidance
of
established
plans,
including
the
2014
Marcy
homes.
Master
plan
has
summarized
in
the
general
mill
site
redevelopment
recommendations
that
are
with
letter
from
January
2016,
most
notably
in
these
ways
the
youth
of
a
defunct
industrial
site
for
high-density
housing
that
unfortunately
included
no
affordable
component
public
right
away.
AS
AS
Pedestrian
improvements,
including
bump
outs
at
block
corners,
active
ground
floor,
uses
eyes
on
the
street
and
pleasantly
landscaped
connections
to
the
riverfront.
It
continues.
The
transformation
of
2nd
Street
southeast
from
industrial
to
residential
use
brings
more
life
to
University
Avenue
southeast,
the
retail
might
better
be
concentrated
near
the
East
Hennepin
business.
No
business
node,
interesting
architectural
massing
with
varied
Heights
setbacks
and
restrained
material
choices.
AS
In
summary,
Marcie
Homes,
Neighborhood,
Association
Association,
recommends
the
Planning
Commission
adopt
staff
recommend
in
the
report.
With
these
considerations,
add
to
the
site
plan
review
condition
number
two
that
no
signs
that
discourage
public
passage
through
private
force,
Avenue
southeast
be
allowed
that
the
applicant
continue
working
with
Metro
transit,
to
accommodate
bus,
rapid
transit
on
University
Avenue
and
with
Public
Works
to
accommodate
the
protection
bicycle
track
and
that
the
applicant
consult
the
st.
Anthony
Heritage
Board
and
the
neighborhood's
creative
places
committee
regarding
public
art
in
historical
and
interpretation
along
2nd
Street
southeast
in
questions.
I.
AS
AR
A
J
M
A
O
Well,
I
not
inclined
to
add
a
condition
to
the
petition
conditionally
or
pointing
at
development
conditional
use
permit
on
habitat
for
native
bees.
I
do
think,
there's
a
misperception
that
the
native
plans
are
higher
maintenance
I
think
that
maybe
the
plants
can
be
just
as
beautiful
and
easy
to
maintain
as
non-native
plants
and
I
know,
there's
some
issues
with
dogs
being
curved
on
turfgrass
and
that
is
eliminated
with
negative
planning.
It
is,
if
it's
taller
than
then
the
dog's
legs.
AL
B
A
A
L
H
O
J
I'll
just
say:
I
certainly
appreciate
the
protected
bike
facility
along
well
with
the
expo.
These
three
blocks
of
University
I
mean
I,
think
that's
a
great
addition
to
location
that
has
a
lot
of
bike
traffic,
but
not
the
most
hospitable,
environment
and
I.
Think
that
can
be
something
that
is
continued
when
the
university
of
new
is
eventually
reconstructed.
AR
Is
not
being
allowed
by
public
works?
Okay,
so
just
so
you're
understand
that
I
don't
want
you
to
have
a
misconception.
We
we
tried
to
get
that
approved
by
Public
Works.
We
offered
to
pay
for
including
on
the
expo
block,
but
Public
Works
has
indicated
they
have
other
plans
for
bike
travel
along
University,
Avenue
and
they've
declined
that
opportunity.
So
just
I
just
want
you
to
not
have
a
misconception.
J
N
That's
correct
what
the
developer
just
stated:
we've
been
working
in
concert
with
Public
Works
to
make
sure
that
the
project's
right-of-way
plan
with
regard
to
bicycle
facilities
is
in
line
with
the
design
for
the
corridor
as
a
whole,
and
what
was
originally
proposed
was
an
idea
that
was
thrown
around
at
one
point
but
has
ultimately
been
rejected
by
the
look
works.
Okay,.
J
N
Is
a
specific
plan
for
bike
facilities
on
University
and
fourth
and
I
believe
it
includes
a
non
street
protected
bike
way,
not
an
off
street
grade
separated
public
but
public
White
Way
and
not
100%.
Certain
on
that,
but
I
know
that
what's
proposed
here
does
not
correspond
to
their
plan
for
the
corridor.
J
B
Like
the
proposed
kind
of
two
amendments
to
the
site
plan
to
the
motion
just
on
number
one
just
to
add
on
and
just
say,
we
encouraged
the
developer
to
explore
native
plantings
and
then
on
number
two.
Just
to
add
on
that.
There
should
be
no
signs
that
discourage
public
passage
through
the
private
fourth
Avenue
in.
A
For
a
second
for
that
amendment,
there's
a
second
is
an
accord
to
a
quick
vote
voice
vote
on
addition
of
those
two
I,
just
not
part
of
the
point
state
conditions,
one
and
two
all
in
favor
say
aye
all
opposed,
nay,
all
right.
Those
amendments
are
now
included
on
the
motion
to
approve
the
site
plan.
Are
there
any
further
discussion
points
on
the
motion
before
us
now
all
right,
seeing
none
health
clerk,
Co
roll
on
approval
of
the
site
plan
review
with
the
two
amended
conditions.