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From YouTube: January 13, 2020 City Planning Commission
Description
Minneapolis City Planning Commission Meeting
https://lims.minneapolismn.gov
A
A
Our
first
order
of
business
is
to
approve
the
minutes
from
the
December
9th
Minneapolis
City
Planning
Commission
meeting
do
I
have
a
motion.
A
second
motion
in
a
second
any
discussion,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
any
opposed
motion
carries
next.
We
will
hear
a
report
out
from
our
Committee
of
the
Whole
meeting
vice-president
of
cube
here.
Oh
yes,.
A
Very
good
start
getting
used
to
these
new
microphones
great
next
up.
We
will
organize
our
actually.
You
know
at
first,
let's
do
a
motion
to
take
that
committee.
The
whole
report
out
as
a
motion
to
approve
do
I
have
a
second
a
motion
and
a
second
any
discussion.
All
in
favor
say
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
Next
order
of
business
is
to
organize
the
agenda
for
this
meeting
for
those
in
the
audience.
I
will
walk
through
the
agenda
as
we
list
off
an
item.
A
If
you
wish
to
speak
on
that
item,
please
raise
your
hand
make
yourself
known.
Otherwise
we
may
place
that
item
on
our
consent
agenda
with
no
discussion.
First
item
is
the
Family
Partnership
at
1527
East
Lake
Street
30
13
to
30
37
Bloomington
Avenue
in
30
10
to
30
48,
16th,
Avenue,
South,
Ward
9.
Anyone
here
to
speak
on
item
number
one
seeing
no
one
will
place
the
item
number
one
and
consent
item
number
two
is
northeast
bank
ATM
at
77,
Broadway,
Street,
northeast
and
War.
Three
is
anyone
here
to
speak
on
that
item?
A
Seen
down
replaced
item
number
two
on
consent.
Item
number
three:
Schrute:
we're
building
1010
South
7th
Street
in
601,
10th,
Avenue,
South,
Ward,
3,
&
6.
Anyone
here
to
speak
on
item
number
3
say
no,
no
place
out
of
number
3
in
consent.
Item
number
four
is
twenty
seventeen
and
twenty
nineteen
and
a
half
second
Avenue
South
Ward
ten.
Anyone
here
to
speak
on
item
number,
four
I
said
a
number
four
on
consent.
Item
number
five
is
270:
Hennepin
Avenue,
Tower,
250,
Hennepin
Avenue,
one
or
three.
Is
anyone
here
to
speak
on
that
item?
A
Item
number
five
and
consent
item
number:
six
is
thirty:
1730
21
and
30
25,
East,
Bay,
McCusker,
Parkway
and
or
ten
is
anyone
here
to
speak
on
item
number
six
I
said
number
six
on
consent.
Item
number
seven
is
29:14
30th
Avenue
South
in
Ward
2?
Is
anyone
here
to
speak
on
that
I?
Don't
see?
No
one
will
place.
The
item
number
seven
on
consent.
Item
number
eight
is
the
gardens
of
Bryn
Mawr
2800
Wayzata
Boulevard
north
in
Ward
7.
We
will
continue
item
number
eight
to
January,
27th
2020.
Meeting
item
number.
A
A
Nine
on
consent,
item
number
ten
self-storage,
1718
washington,
avenue
north
on
217,
18th,
Avenue,
north
and
Ward
fives.
Anyone
here
to
speak
on
item
number
ten
item
number
11.
We
will
discuss
an
item
number
twelve.
Is
the
zoning
code
text
amendment
and
all
war
related
to
park
dedications
fee
and
definition
of
affordable
housing?
Has
anybody
here
to
speak
on
item
number
12?
A
A
A
A
Can
I
get
a
motion
to
continue
item
number
eight
to
the
January
27th
2020,
City,
Planning,
Commission
meeting
of
motion
and
a
second
on
item
number
8
continuance
all
in
favor,
say
aye.
Any
opposed
motion
carries
with
that.
We
will
discuss
item
number
11
and
staff
is
err
and
Hanauer.
The
floor
is
yours:
Erin.
D
D
We
had
an
easement
encroachment
or
otherwise,
and
for
those
reasons,
Public
Works
and
see
pit
are
recommending
denial
of
the
application.
It's
important
for
just
to
elaborate
a
little
more
to
have
a
six-foot,
pedestrian,
clear
and
straight
zone,
and
so
when
you
have
these
jogs,
this
is
not
an
ideal
situation
to
make
it
easier
for
those
to
travel
for
all
abilities
also
helps
with
snow
removal,
and
we
don't
want
to
limit
the
opportunities
for
communication.
Transportation.
Utility
means
with
a
non
straight
right-of-way.
There's
a
letter
of
support
from
the
neighborhood
that
you
have
received.
F
D
G
D
H
Enter
commerce
with
commutator
LLC
the
applicant.
Thank
you
for
hearing
us
today,
we'll
come
back
with
more
comments
later,
but
just
answer
the
immediate
question.
There
were
historically
two
area
ways,
one
on
the
top
with
the
blue
circling
it
that
had
a
stairway
in
it,
the
other
with
actually
egress
windows
into
the
basement.
H
B
B
D
B
Then,
if,
if
this
gets,
if
we
vote
in
accordance
with
staff
recommendation
to
deny
it
the
blue
rectangle
and
the
non
highlighted
historically
egress
window
dere
access
thing,
what
is
there
a
proposed
thought,
liner
or
designed
for
what
the
sidewalk
and
green
area
would
look
like
in
comparison?
Is
a
jog
like
it
does
currently
on
the
proposed
or
I?
Do.
D
I
D
I
J
D
K
Good
afternoon,
commissioners,
my
name
is
Jeff
Handel
and
I'm,
a
principal
professional
engineer
in
the
transportation
engineering
design,
division
of
the
Department
of
Public
Works,
so
the
public
works
and
C
ped
recommendation
is
to
deny
the
vacation
that
would
keep
the
the
width
and
alignment
of
the
sidewalk.
Even
so,
the
the
width
of
the
sidewalk
is
important.
The
width
of
the
entire
pedestrians,
including
the
sidewalk
and
the
boulevard,
is
also
important
for
multiple
reasons,
and
also
the
straight
line
meant
helps.
B
I
have
a
question,
so
there
are
they're
just
related
to
that
curb
cut
and
future
plans
for
for
this
portion
of
the
street.
Are
there
any
plans
in
the
works
to
reconfigure
the
public
realm
there
or
is
it
we
decided
option
a
option
B
and
that's
what
it's
probably
gonna
be
for
the
foreseeable
future.
So.
K
Thanks
thanks
for
that
question,
commissioner,
there
you
know
there
actually
is
a
public
project
underway,
a
pedestrian
improvement
project.
That's
recently
done
work
in
that
area
at
the
sidewalk
intersection.
The
development
project
you
know
could
be
an
opportunity
to
enhance
the
the
right-of-way,
also
if
they're
agreeable
and,
of
course,
streets
and
public
infrastructure
only
last
so
long.
So
eventually,
you
know:
there's
no
Street
reconstruction
currently
programmed
there,
but
eventually
the
of
course.
The
entire
street
will
get
reconstructed
and.
B
If
you
look
at
a
drawing
the
the
curb
bumps
out
to
meet
the
corner,
which
would
imply
that
there's
some
sort
of
indented
parking
or
pull
off
area
there
at
that
location,
but
if
that
wasn't
intended
to
stay,
and
instead
the
street
was
straightened
to
fall
straight
down
from
the
corner.
It
would
you
know
larger
width
to
work
with.
You
won't
be
looking
at
this
toothpick
sliver
of
green
next
to
six
feet
next
to
a
stairwell
it'd,
be
a
wider
expanse
I'm
wondering
if
that's
something
that's
in
the
for
the
next
five
years.
G
K
Okay,
so
thanks
for
that
clarification-
and
you
know
my
I
could
be
wrong,
but
my
understanding
is
that
the
curb
line
was
straight
and
through
some
combination
of
our
pedestrian
improvement
project
and
the
development
project.
The
bump
out
that
you
see
on
the
plan
or
the
curb
extension
that
you
see
on
the
plan
is
going
to
be
installed.
A
C
You,
while
I'm
doing
this
I'm
just
gonna,
ask
Andrew
hinders.
Could
you
put
this
up
on
the
screen
here
would
be
so
commissioners?
First
I
would
like
to
thank
all
of
you
for
taking
time
to
consider
our
request
very
much
appreciate
it.
I
would
also
share
that.
This
is
a
very
important
consideration
for
our
project.
The
retail
space
is
a
key
component
and
how
this
building
works
both
from
a
financial
perspective
but,
more
importantly,
how
this
building
re-energizes
the
neighborhood,
which
is
a
big
all
of
ours.
C
We
plan
to
use
the
a
historic
stone
seller
that
is
below
ground
this
space
as
a
retail
space
there.
You
know
really
two
key
reasons
why
we
are
requesting
this
vacation.
The
first
one
is
an
important
functional
reason,
and
that
is
as
egress
and
the
second
reason
is
a
commercial
consideration
for
us
to
use
that
space
as
retail.
It's
really
important
that
there
be
a
sidewalk
access
to
it.
C
We
are
planning
on
using
that
space
as
a
wine
bar
tapas
bar
type
of
space,
and
it
frankly,
is
being
designed
to
be
for
the
neighborhood
as
opposed
to
hotel
guests,
and
so
without
this
exterior
stairway.
There
would
be
no
way
of
getting
into
the
space
without
going
through
the
building
so
entering
the
hotel
and
going
into
the
building,
and
so
it
would
really
not
be
a
viable
space.
C
We
have
very
substantial
green
space
plan
for
the
sidewalks
and
we
are
really
doing
this
because
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
when
this
project
is
completed,
this
becomes
the
the
center
of
North
Loop
for
the
neighborhood,
we're
actually
calling
the
lobby
of
the
hotel
the
living
room
for
North
Loop.
So
this
is
not
it
kind
of
an
inward
focused
building
for
hotel
guests.
We're
really
trying
to
make
this
an
externally
facing
building.
C
One
of
the
things
that
was
mentioned
and
I
do
want
to
clarify.
We
actually
are
planning
on
8
feet
of
clear
pedestrian
zone.
6
feet
is
the
minimum,
but
we
are
actually
a
designed
8
feet.
There
is
a
jog,
however.
I
would
like
to
just
call
out
that
the
current
conditions
there
is
currently
a
jog,
so
the
photograph
that
is
up
there.
The
stairway
is
actually
immediately
below
that
wooden
platform
and
railing,
and
actually
the
stairway
is
still
there.
C
So
when
you
go
to
the
cellar,
it
is
open
and
you
can
actually
see
the
entire
stairwell.
There
are
no
utilities
running
through
there
and
there's
just
about
that
much
concrete
sitting
on
top
and
then
there
is
that
wooden
platform
sitting
on
top
of
that,
so
that
condition
of
a
jog
would
continue.
However,
what
we
have
proposed
is
that
we
really
believe
in
pedestrian
realm.
C
We
respect
it,
we
value
it,
so
we
have
proposed
that
we
would
actually
fund
a
large
bump
out
that
you
saw
in
that
earlier
diagram
and
that
would
frankly,
it
would
replace
all
of
the
sidewalks
square
footage
that
would
be
vacated
in
that
3
foot
7
by
21
foot
space,
and
then
we
are
doing
substantial
greening
of
all
of
the
sidewalk
space.
All
the
way
around
our
building.
C
A
couple
of
other
comments
that
we
wanted
to
highlight.
This
is
a
historic
stairway.
You,
you
saw
the
image
of
the
the
18
I
think
it's
an
1880s
photograph.
This
was
a
hotel
building
originally,
and
that
was
a
a
public
stairway
that
was
used
for
the
building,
and
so
we
believe
that
what
we're
doing
is
we
are
opening
up
the
sidewalk
and
restoring
the
stairway.
That's
already
there
we're
just
taking
this
the
concrete
slabs
out.
C
C
C
L
Just
just
going
back
to
that
one
for
sure
just
so
that
were
clear,
that
this
yellow
zone
next
to
the
blue,
which
is
our
stairwell,
is
eight
feet
wide.
So
it's
a
very
tremendously
wide
sidewalk
to
begin
with,
and
we
feel
that
the
pathway
is
gonna
jog
and
ebb
and
flow
a
little
anyhow.
If
you
look
lower
in
the
diagram,
we
have
plantings
and
seating
and
tree
on
the
left
hand
side,
but
that
whole
pathway
kind
of
flows,
gracefully
it's!
It's
not
just
a
straight
line.
L
C
The
last
thing,
I
would
say
is
that
we
have
reviewed
this.
We
gave
a
presentation
of
the
North
Loop
neighborhood
association,
and
you
saw
the
letter
that
came
out
of
that.
We
actually
have
at
tim
ville.
So
who
is
the
president
of
the
Neighborhood
Association
here
and
we've
also
reviewed
this
with
the
city
council
member
for
the
Third
Ward
council
member
Fletcher,
who
supports
our
request
on
this
Tim?
Did
you
want
to
just
come
up
and
say
anything.
A
H
C
H
C
B
C
B
C
E
Okay,
I'm
just
reading
the
materials
that
that
you
submitted
with
it,
and
it
says
that
the
project
success
requires
the
stairway,
and
this
is
the
only
option
to
achieve
the
public.
Good
I
mean
I,
understand
the
desire
to
have
the
stairway
and
the
entrance
from
the
outside.
But
you
know
people
will,
if
this
is
denied,
people
will
still
be
able
to
get
into
this
place
through
the
the
hotel
in
the
living
room
of
the
North
Loop,
and
all
of
that
I.
C
Doubt
we
would
build
the
space
out
if
it's
denied
it
would
we
use
for
storage
because
just
based
on
retail
experience,
so
my
partner
John
has
several
restaurants
in
the
city.
It
downstairs
eating
establishments,
don't
do
well.
If
there's
no
windows,
no
light
no
door
access,
so
we
probably
would
not
do
anything
down
there.
I
see
Thank
You.
G
L
L
C
And
just
related
sir,
to
to
your
questions
so
there
you
know
we
are
planning
a
canopy
there
above
the
front
entrance,
so
it'll
be
kind
of
a
classic
hotel
entrance
there.
So
when
you're
kind
of
thinking
about
what
is
the
pedestrian
realm
going
to
feel
like
there,
we
hope
to
have
the
ability
to
have
some
large
planters
by
the
door.
You
know
to
kind
of
warm
up
that
space
there
will
be
a
canopy,
and
so
you
know
the
these
are
preliminary.
C
C
J
C
Something
we
propose
that
we,
we
believe,
would
be
good
for
the
pedestrian
realm.
It
shortens
the
walking
distance
across
the
streets
and
we're
trying
to
frankly
encourage
a
more
pedestrian
realm
in
that
space
and
we
think,
as
there's
more
retail,
opening
up
there
and
more
apartments
and
that
sort
of
thing
it's
important
and
we
frankly
want
more
sidewalk
space.
C
We
do
have
a
restaurant,
planned
on
the
main
floor
on
the
first
Street
side
and
we'll
be
requesting
a
permit
to
have
a
sidewalk
cafe,
so
we're
envisioning,
a
very
active
sidewalk
scape
there,
and
luckily
the
sidewalks
are
wide
and
that
in
that
location,
and
so
we
have
the
ability
to
really
have
a
very
lively
pedestrian
realm
there.
It's.
J
C
C
You
know
this
three
foot
by
twenty
one
foot
wide
space,
because
that
has
been
a
question
that
we,
you
know
have
heard
several
times
and
and
from
our
perspective
we
believe
that,
because
this
this
is
historically
a
staircase
that
has
been
there,
that
it
doesn't
set
a
precedent,
we're
restoring
something
that
actually
in
our
HPC
reviews,
they
actually
approved
us
movie.
They
were
thrilled
that
we
were
going
to
be
bringing
this
back,
and
so
that
was
has
been
kind
of
the
key
concern
that
we
understood
from
the
city.
It
was.
C
It
was
more
this
precedent
and
I
do
you
know
I
care
very
much
about
pedestrian
realm
and
the
jog
this
space
is
a
little
bit
is
going
to
be
a
little
bit
unique
though,
because
there's
gonna
be
the
front
entrance
for
our
hotel,
they're
gonna
be
hopefully
if
we
get
permits
sidewalk
cafes
and
we're
going
to
be
doing
a
lot
of
street
greening,
and
so
it's
not
going
to
be
a
place
where
we're
gonna
expect
people
to
be.
You
know,
zooming
by
I,
think
it's
going
to
be
a
place.
Hopefully
people
will
linger.
C
We
will
certainly
make
sure
that
it's
extremely
accessible
so
that
people
who
are
handicapped
etc
have
no.
You
know,
issues
going
through
the
pedestrian
space,
but
we
were
trying
to
make
something
special,
quite
frankly
in
the
space,
and
we
think
it's
the
right,
neighborhood
and
the
right
site
to
do
it.
Okay,.
B
B
B
So
this
is
okay,
bringing
that
into
consistency,
okay
and
then
I
noticed
on
your
lower
level
plan.
Is
that
storage
twelve
feet
under
the
sidewalk?
Is
that
what
I'm
seeing
I
twelve
foot
three
inches
on
sheets?
Let's
see
this
term
snow
cry
like
it's
a
floor
plan
lower
a
little
p1
is
that
it
looks
as
though
it
extends
under
there.
Is
that
accurate?
This
diagram
Commission
that
you're.
B
L
L
C
Well,
it's
actually
quite
fat.
When
you
go
down
there,
you
can
see
where
our
building
ends
and
then
there
is
just
a
big
void
and
where
the
open
stairwell
was
man.
Actually
the
void
continues
and
I
think
it
might
have
been
coal
storage
down
there
or
something
like
that.
That
might
be
what
you're
seeing
there's
another
large
void
underneath
the.
B
C
It
is
so
one
thing:
I
can
tell
you
for
sure,
besides
the
stairwell
space
that
we're
asking
the
vacation
for,
we
are
not
planning
on
using
any
other
space
under
the
sidewalk.
So
if
there
is
something
that
says
storage
there,
we
are
not
intending
on
renovating
that
space.
We
would
be
sealing
up
our
our
cellar
wall
in
that
area
and
it
would
not
be
opened.
B
C
I
would
say
it's
the
former.
It's
really
important.
We
have
certainly
done
some.
What?
If
so,
what?
If
we
can't
do
this
our
architects
have
said.
Well,
we
could
figure
out
how
to
blast
a
hole
through
the
stone
foundation
into
the
underground
parking
garage
and
then
figure
out
some
sort
of
second
egress
through
there
it
sounds
kind
of
complicated
and
not
ideal.
C
I
C
H
C
M
B
Your
pincers
straight
up
straight
up
there,
okay,
see
the
stairway
right
above
your
pencil
like
up
up
up
aerial.
Is
that
the
one
in
question
that
we're
talking
about
right?
Now?
Yes,
okay!
So
the
thing
to
the
left
of
your
pencil?
That's
what
my
questions
about,
because
it
looks
as
though
you
extend
12
foot
three
inches
into
the
public
right
away,
so
I'm
yeah.
B
H
H
I
B
A
J
H
J
D
D
A
N
It
was
great
hearing
all
your
your
comments
because
at
the
Northland
Neighborhood
Association,
when
this
was
brought
before
us
and
you
and
our
letter
of
approval
or
support
I
should
say
is
in
in
the
packet.
We
have
many
of
the
same
questions
that
you
did
particularly
around
the
sidewalk
right
now
in
the
North
Loop
or
in
the
last
year.
N
If
you've
been
through
there,
there
are
a
lot
of
cones
and
a
lot
of
work
and
a
lot
of
stuff
going
on
in
the
North
Loop,
because
pedestrian
friendly
and
pedestrian
right
away
is
very
important
for
us
and
clear
access
is
very
important.
So
when
we
saw
this,
that
was
a
question
we
asked
I
know
the
applicant
is:
has
proposed
doing
a
bump
up.
Moving
that
bump
up
further
back
towards
you
know,
I
guess,
I,
don't
know
if
it's
West
or
whatever
to
you
know,
increase
the
the
width
of
the
sidewalk.
N
We
would
support
that
I
think
that's
a
great
idea.
Most
of
the
of
the
pedestrian
or
most
of
the
corners
in
the
North
Loop
in
this
part
of
the
North
Loop
in
2019,
had
been
completely
redone
and
they've
all
been
pumped
out
and
that
project
is
still
going
on
we'll
be
going
on
into
2020.
So
the
North
Loop
right
now
versus
what
it
was
say
two
years
ago,
is
incredible:
with
pedestrian
friendly,
sidewalks
and
more
trees.
N
This
project
sits
in
the
epicenter
of
the
North
loops
economic
area,
and
it's
going
to
be
such
a
great
addition
to
that
part
of
the
North
Loop
and
the
access
down,
as
is
proposed
by
the
applicant,
is
essential
for
it
and
we
support
it
wholeheartedly.
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
great
project,
bringing
a
lot
of
folks
in
very
similar
to
the
parlor
you're,
going
on
Washington
Avenue
and
walk
along
the
east
side
of
Washington
Avenue.
The
parlor
has
has
stairs
there
and
all
along
Washington
Avenue.
N
There
are
obstacles
and
whether
it's
trees
and
other
things
there
and
it
functions
very
well.
The
parlor
is
very,
very
popular
and
has
access
within
the
build
and
also
through
the
stairwell.
So
one
of
the
questions
to
that
came
up
in
the
report.
The
staff
report
was
snow
storage,
and
that
was
a
question
that
we
asked.
Where
is
the
snow?
Gonna
go
with
us
and
because
this
is
the
front
of
their
hotel?
N
I
can
pretty
much
assure
you
that,
as
with
other
hotels
in
the
North
Loop,
including
the
Ewing
Hotel,
the
snow
will
be
gone
if
the
snow
storage
will
not
be
an
issue
in
this
area,
so
we
support
it.
We
think
it's
a
great
addition
and
bring
a
lot
a
great
business
to
the
North
Loop,
particularly
in
that
part
of
the
North
Loop.
Were
there
a
lot
of
restaurants
and
we
want
people
to
be
out
on
the
streets
walking
in
the
North
Loop.
We
have
that
now.
This
will
only
enhance
that.
N
So
we're
in
support
of
that
I
did
read
in
the
in
the
staff
report
about
horizons,
saying
no.
That
has
that
they
need
that
potentially
need
that
for
for
some
of
their
utility
work,
that
has
been
an
open
area
for
the
last
hundred
years
and
Verizon's
done
very
well.
Without
that,
I
can
see
that
I
don't
see
the
need
for
that
going
forward.
So
we
do
support
it.
We
would
love
to
have
you
approve
it
and
I
know
staff
reporters
to
deny
it.
N
A
E
E
Yes,
that's
correct!
So
if
we
were
to
allow
the
vacation,
we
would
have
to
find
that
one
of
those
things
basically
true
and
then.
Finally,
what
is
the
role
then?
It
looks
like
this
is
covered
also
by
an
ordinance
that
doesn't
allow
for
reopening
stairwells
in
the
public
right
away.
So
what
role
does
the
existing
law
give
us
there?
On
top
of
it?
I.
O
Can
refer
to
Aaron
or
Geoff
handling
on
that
piece
of
it
as
it's
more
of
a
public
works
ordinance,
but
I
think
the
staff
report
does
lay
it
out
pretty
well
that
you
know
there
is
a
public
transportation
corridor
or
public
need
here
for
this
portion
of
the
sidewalk.
That
ordinance
doesn't
really
give
us
a
lot
of
flexibility
on.
I
I
have
a
question
for
Public
Works
staff.
There
was
a
statement
that
was
made
by
the
downtown
neighborhood
association
representative
that
Verizon
said
that
they
did
not
support
this
and
I
think
that's
not
quite
accurate
from
the
staff
report.
It
says:
Verizon
noted
that
they
have
facilities
in
the
area
that
isn't
a
yes
or
no,
in
my
opinion,
is
that
your
observation
also
are
your?
Do
you
agree
with
that
statement?
That's.
I
O
E
I
will
move
approval
of
the
staff
recommendation
to
deny
the
vacation
in
the
area
way
adjacent
to
the
building
at
125,
first
Street
north.
The
reasons
for
that
are
basically
the
answers
to
the
questions
that
I
just
asked.
There
doesn't
seem
to
be
any
real
authority
to
do
this.
To
take
this
property
right
away
from
the
city.
B
So,
just
to
speak
to
this
really
quickly,
I
think
and
I
was
reading
through
the
different,
the
different
reasons
I
and
the
director
from
Public
Works,
noting
that
it's
the
right-of-way
isn't
in
the
public
interest
and
I
think
that
that's
a
narrowing
it
isn't
in
the
public
interest.
I.
Think
that
that's
interesting
because
it
isn't
narrowing
number
one,
it
it's
it's
widening
and
it
does
create
a
jog
which
I
recognize
as
something
to
be
noted,
but
I
I.
B
Also
when
I
walk
around
the
city,
there's
a
lot
of
places
that
jog,
like
I,
don't
know
very
many
sidewalks
that
are
consistently
straight
throughout
our
whole
city,
especially
as
you
get
toward
the
warehouse
district.
One
thing
that
I
think
when
I
was
going
through
it
that
it
might
be
needed
as
a
right
away
for
utilities
and
I
in
noting
that
there's
already
existing
pretty
much
a
room
under
there,
that's
been
there
for
a
hundred
plus
years
and
so
far
utilities
has
an
access
is
fully
accessible
quarter
to
run
stuff
through
it.
B
It
kind
of
makes
me
think
that's
a
little
bit
of
a
hollow
argument.
The
consistent
straight
path
again,
I
I,
know
plenty
of
places
in
the
city
where
there's
not
a
consistent
straight
path
and
I
am
at
least
somewhat
relieved
to
hear
that
it
would
be
widened
beyond
the
bare
minimum.
So
at
least
it
mitigates
some
of
that
less
useful
in
the
winter
because
of
snow
piles.
B
I,
don't
see
that
as
much
of
a
concern,
I
did
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
precedent
and
the
fact
that
it's
in
the
historic
district
I
think
if
they
were
coming
to
us
and
requesting
a
new
stairwell
I,
would
be
completely
disinclined
to
offer
it
the
fact
that
it
was
existing
and
the
fact
that
it's
in
a
district
that
we
noted
in
our
city
as
being
important
for
being
historic.
It
tells
me
this
is
different
than
other
applications.
B
I
think
when
I
think
about
the
warehouse
district,
in
particular,
I,
think
about
all
those
loading
docks
which
we
want
a
lot
of
people
to
slap
on
the
sidewalks.
Yet
we
applaud
them
for
people
preserving
them
now
and
having
access,
even
though
the
ramps
are
quite
difficult.
I
would
imagine
for
anyone
who
is
in
a
wheelchair
or
has
mobility
impairment
issues
so
I
feel
as
though
it's
a
unique
situation
and
location
in
our
city
and
I.
Guess
when
I
think
about
our
historic
district
day,
sometimes
I
feel
like
some
of
our
will.
B
Sanitize
things
so
much,
and
one
of
the
benefits
to
historic
preservation
is
that
it
creates
this.
A
little
bit
of
grittiness
to
our
city
and
interest
and
variety
that
we
don't
see
elsewhere,
so
we're
not
going
to
see
all
of
a
sudden
every
new
building
in
the
city
wanting
a
stairwell
and
the
public
right
away
to
get
to
Abbey,
but
here
it
seems
not
only
appropriate,
but
it
is
appropriate
because
it
historically
had
that
so
I
feel
it's
almost
it's
almost.
B
We
should
support
it
more
just
because
of
the
district,
it's
in
the
fact
that
it
historically
belong
there
and
as
a
nod
of
the
fact
that
that's
what
makes
things
special
and
unique
in
this
city
and
if
we
try
to
sanitize
everything,
so
it
meets
the
same
code.
That's
how
we
end
up
without
tear
downs
and
all
these
cookie
cutter
generic
buildings
getting
put
up
that
have
no
character.
So
I
guess
I'm
supporting
this,
because
when
we've
looked
at
this
in
terms
of
it
needs
to
be
for
a
public
purpose.
B
Safety
is
important,
but
I'm
not
buying
the
excuses
as
to
why
this
isn't
safe.
I.
Don't
think
that
a
jog
is
going
to
prevent
somebody
from
from
navigating
that
sidewalk.
It's
a
very
generous
jog.
However,
I
would
say
that
historic
preservation
and
enhancing
a
historic
district
by
restoring
and,
quite
frankly
doing
adaptive
reuse
is
highly
in
the
public
interest.
B
As
a
city,
we've
recognized
that
it's
important
to
recognize
our
heritage,
and
this
is,
in
my
opinion,
another
way
of
doing
that
so
I
think
when
I
read
the
findings
that
said
that
we
need
to
find
that
the
proposed
vacation
is
needed
for
the
public
purpose.
In
my
mind,
the
adaptive,
reuse
and
reclamation
of
an
existing
stair
opening
is
in
the
public
best
interest
and
the
public
purpose,
because
it
isn't
negated
by
any
safety
concerns
that
I
can
actually
see
occurring.
A
So
if
I
can
just
try
to
summarize
so
there
is
a
point
that
that
some
of
the
concerns
safety
right
away,
free
utilities
and
width
are
addressed
by
the
design
and
that
there's
an
affirmative
public
purpose
in
historic
preservation
and
adaptive
reuse,
as
articulated
in
our
comprehensive
plans
and
various
city
policies.
Nice.
F
Thank
you.
Mr.
chair
I
generally
support
the
motion
for
the
reasons
that
were
stated.
I
did
want
to
just
clarify
with
staff
that
this
action
is
in
fact
a
recommendation
to
the
City
Council
as
opposed
to
a
action.
Is
that
correct,
okay,
and
that
that
makes
me
a
little
bit
more
comfortable
just
because
I
do
have
a
concern
if
there
is
still
a
utility
out
there.
That's
objecting
to
this,
and
also
the
issue
of
the
Commissioner
Sweezey
rate
raise
related
to
the
city.
F
Ordinance
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
this
proposal
works
within
city
ordinance
or,
if
there's
anything
else,
that
that
needs
to
be
done,
but
otherwise
I
I
support.
The
motion
I
would
also
add
that
adding
street-level
activity
in
the
form
of
retail
space
and
a
location
like
this
certainly
advances
our
comprehensive
plan
goals.
I
I
feel
that
the
sidewalk
has
proposed
is
adequate
and
width.
It's
certainly
wider
than
a
lot
of
other
sidewalks
in
this
general
area
and
and
the
proposal
will
continue
to
meet
our
transportation
needs.
J
Thank
you
just
I
also
agree
with
Commissioner
Brown
I'll
be
supporting
this
for
the
reasons
given
but
I
think
because
we
can't
attach
conditions
to
this.
I
want
to
be
really
clear
that
one
of
the
reasons
I'm
I'm
supportive
is
because
of
the
work
that's
been
done
to
increase
the
pedestrian
realm,
so
I
just
encourage
developers
to
continue
to
do
that.
To
address
some
of
the
questions
that
were
raised
here,
you
know:
where
are
things
gonna
go
how's,
the
green?
Are
you
going
to
work
how's
this
all
gonna
flow
as
you're
working
that
out.
G
You
I
just
want
to
speak
to
precedent
for
a
second.
We
see
projects
all
the
time
that
want
to
vacant
alley
and
relocate
an
alley.
This
vacation
is
not
eliminating
a
sidewalk,
it's
it's!
It's
modifying
the
sidewalk.
I!
Don't
see
this
as
a
precedent.
This
is
a
very
site-specific
condition
with
a
site-specific
solution.
A
A
O
Yes,
so
we
had
one
appeal
from
the
December
9th
Planning
Commission
meeting,
which
seems
like
it
was
a
really
really
long
time
ago
that
was
on
the
407
15th
Avenue
Southeast
project.
The
Dinkytown
makes
you
that
the
mcdonald's
site
there
that
went
to
the
zoning
and
planning
committee
last
week
and
was
continued
to
cycles
to
allow
them
some
additional
time
to
work
on
the
design
staff
is
working
through
the
appointment
process
for
some
openings
on
the
Planning,
Commission
and
I
believe
some
of
our
other
bodies,
the
Park
Board,
has
actually
appointed
their
new
representative.
O
Already
Chris
Meyer
will
be
our
new
Park
Board
rep,
and
so
we
would
thank
Joe
know
a
lot
for
his
time
here
on
the
Planning
Commission.
We
could
do
more
formal,
thank
yous
next
time,
because
we're
gonna
have
a
lot
of
departing
commissioners
who
have
served
on
the
Planning
Commission
for
many
years
and
added
a
lot
of
value
to
this
body.
So
we
will
do
that
next
time
and
at
that
time
maybe
we'll
have
more
to
report.
I.
Think
the
school
board
has
their
annual
meeting
tomorrow,
so
they
will
be
making
their
appointment
as
well.