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A
Just
audio,
I
believe,
yeah
all
right.
I
think
we
can
go.
B
Ahead,
all
right,
hi
everybody
should
we
go
ahead
and
start
with
a
with
a
roll
call
to
make
sure
we
have
quorum?
Yes,.
A
I'll
come
back
scott
shafer.
E
F
B
All
right
so
seeing
as
we
have
a
quorum,
we'll
go
ahead
and
call
the
meeting
to
order
and
are
there
any
motions
to
adopt
today's.
B
G
This
is
rose
ii.
What
happened
to
colleen
in
the
lobby.
A
I
tried
to
let
her
in,
but
it
didn't
work
so
here
she
is
again.
Hopefully
this
works
this
time
there
we
go
hi
colleen.
We
are
having
trouble,
letting
you
in
glad
you're.
B
All
right,
thanks
katie,
could
you
call
the
roll
on
the
motion
to
adopt
today's
agenda?
Please.
E
A
Yes,
okay,
hakun.
A
Yes,
colleen
ebbinger.
Yes,
it's
queen
kim
and
said
queen
get
on
the
line
or
brittany
lewis.
A
I
know
brenda
and
barb
could
not
be
here.
David
mcgee.
H
A
B
A
Calling
please
karina
bowler.
H
E
A
A
B
All
right
that
might
have
been
record
time-
I
don't
know
we're
getting.
The
hang
of
this
is
there
so
just
as
a
reminder
for
anyone
who's
on
the
call
for
a
majority
of
the
meeting.
This
is
a
public
meeting,
but
only
committee
members
are
able
to
actively
participate
in
most
of
the
meeting,
but
this
is
the
time
in
the
meeting
when
we
do
have
open
for
public
comment.
So
is
there
anybody
on
the
line
who
is
here
and
would
like
to
make
a
comment
to
the
committee
at
this
time?
B
J
I
have
a
comment
about
why
come?
Is
it
that
landlords?
What
have
you
pay
your
rent
to
a
payless
company
and
then
you're
paying
your
rent
on
time
on
the
first
or
the
third
is
what
they
as
you
pay
it
off,
but
the
company
that
they
have
that's
paid.
These
take
some
money
out
of
your
account
when
they
want
to.
J
But
then
the
rental
company
will
try
to
give
you
a
a
late
notice
or
an
addiction
because
of
that
and
there's
not
no
fun
to
attend
it,
but
it's
because
of
the
pages
start
taking
the
money
out
of
the
account,
and
why
should
the
tenant
be
accountable
for
that?
Why
shouldn't
they
renew
the
lease
or
let
the
attendants
pay
on
their
own?
J
I
want
some
feedback
on
that
and
also
about.
Why
is
it
that
people
that
are
on
section
there
that
live
in
a
certain
buildings
with
they
tell
you
that
you
can
sign
the
lease
and
then
you
can
go
for
from
one
year
of
these
to
a
six
month
lease?
J
But
then,
when
it's
time
to
renew
your
lease,
they
tell
you
that
the
only
way
you
can
renew
your
lease
for
six
months
lease
is
that
you
got
to
pay
a
25
more
or
more
fee
to
get
a
six
months
lease,
and
you
got
to
put
in
a
written
notice
of
why
you
wanted
to
switch
to
a
six-month
lease.
I
want
to
know
that,
and
I
want
some
feedback
on
that
and
also
about
the
homeless
people
that
are
downtown
minneapolis
and
downtown
everywhere.
J
J
Not
just
those
that
are
in
shelters,
but
also
those
due
to
the
the
virus
due
to
losing
their
jobs
and
stuff
like
that,
now
they
become
homeless
and
people
have
jobs
that
now
they're
making
so
making
it
so
hard
for
them
that
other
commercial
jobs
that
they
have
they're,
making
it
harder
for
them
with
tickets
and
so
on
and
so
on.
To
now
they
can't
even
pay
their
own
rent
and
pay
their
bills.
J
Why
is
it
that
there's
so
much
stuff
going
on,
but
there's
nothing
being
addressed
to
the
needs
of
the
people
who
makes
minnesota.
C
J
Yes,
so
I
just
wanted
some
feedback
on
that,
because
there's
a
lot
of
homeless
stuff
miss
out
here,
but
then
they're
still
putting
up
these
new
buildings-
and
I
mean
they're
still
going
on
like
if
nothing's
happening,
and
they
don't
see
this
stuff
going
on
in
in
the
communities
and
then
that
and
in
minnesota
and
their
counties.
And
I
mean
it's
like
it's
everywhere
now
I
mean
it's
like
and
everyone's
taking
advantage
of
that.
Why?
J
Why
isn't
it
that
these
people
are
getting
help
again
housing
or
why
is
it
that
a
person
who
pays
their
rent
they're
trying
to
put
them
out
because
of
a
pay,
these
companies
that
they
choose,
but
then
they
take
the
money
out
when
they
choose
to
take
it
out,
even
though
you
have
it
in
your
account.
J
J
But
it's
due
to
the
thought
of
the
pay
use
company,
not
taking
the
money
out
of
the
count
and
then
the
the
landlords
are
trying
to
get
the
tenants
for
something
that
what
they
choose
to
to
have
that
company
taking
the
money
out,
but
they
take
it
out
whenever
they
want
to
take
it
out
or
like
if
the
first
fall
or
the
weekend
they
talk
about.
It
takes
three
to
four
different
days.
J
B
B
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
bringing
you
brought
up.
I
think
a
lot
of
really
important
points
about
the
experience
of
renters
in
minneapolis
right
now,
some
of
which
are
you
know
my
just
really
quick
response.
Some
of
the
issues
you
brought
up
are
things
that
are
relevant
to
state
law.
How
kind
of
how
state
landlord
tenant
law
works,
and
some
of
the
stuff
is
is,
are
things
that
the
city
can?
Potentially,
you
know?
I
know
the
city
right
now.
J
Now,
with
all
the
stuff
you
trying
to
work,
and
then
they
make
it
hard
for
working
you're
trying
to
live
in
your
own
environment,
but
all
your
leases
and
stuff,
they
tell
you,
you
got
to
do
this
to
do
it
or
they
give
you
the
mission
of
something
that
that's
not
even
due
to
have
nothing
to
do
with
you.
It's
because
of
the
situations
that
they
have,
but
have
a
company.
That's
taking
out
money.
A
J
Account
your
account
have
some
money,
so
it's
right
now,
it's
almost
like
they
they're
making
everybody
homeless
I
mean
like
when?
Is
it
going
to
stop?
What
are
they
going
to
do
about
this
stuff?
To
stop
this
homelessness
shouldn't
it
be
some
kind
of
ground,
some
kind
of
rule
that
you
know
for
them
to
do
that
or
even
you
know.
I
just
wanted
to
know,
and
I
wanted
to
have
some
feedback.
B
J
You
okay
well,
thank
you
and
I
appreciate
it
and
have
a
wonderful.
I
J
J
M
I
I
A
And
joey
we
we
do
have
at
least
one
other
person
who's,
not
on
the
committee
on
the
line.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
they
wanted
to
make
public
comments,
but.
A
Thank
you
joey,
so
I
just
want
to
share
a
couple
of
things.
I
sent
an
email
to
everyone,
but
just
want
to
make
sure
you
saw
we
did
extend
the
application
deadline
for
the
committee
to
the
end
of
this
month.
I
know
some
folks
on
the
committee
have
reapplied
already,
and
so,
if
you
are
still
considering
it
and
thinking
about
whether
you
want
to
reapply,
you
do
have
a
little
bit
more
time.
A
That's
the
deadline
is
now
the
end
of
this
month
and
that's
true
for
all
of
the
advisory
boards
and
commissions
across
the
city
that
they
just
ended
up,
extending
the
deadline
for
all
of
them.
So
so
just
wanted
everyone
to
be
aware
of
that,
and
then
the
other
announcement
I
wanted
to
share
was
that
I
had
sent
out
an
email
or
a
poll
to
see
if
people
were
interested
in
doing
the
housing
development
101.
A
That
bar
mccormick
had
offered
to
do,
and
we
didn't
get
a
lot
of
response
to
that.
And
so
that's
why
it
ended
up
not
being
scheduled-
and
I
guess
just
kind
of
wanted
to
raise
it
again
today
to
see
if
there
is
still
interest-
and
you
know-
maybe
the
timing-
just
wasn't
quite
right
last
month
and
if
we
should
try
again
to
to
find
a
time,
I'm
not
quite
sure
the
best
way
to
figure
that
out
in
this
setting.
A
But
I
guess
folks
could
raise
their
hand
on
their
on
teams
or
just
if
you're
on
the
video
or
if
anybody
wants
to
just
kind
of
speak
up
and
we
could
try
again.
If
I
guess
the
question
is,
should
we
try
again
to
get
that
on
the
calendar
or
is
sort
of
the
interest
in
that.
A
So
I
see
some
hands
up
sounds
like
so.
There
may
still
be
interest
in
trying
to
get
this
on
the
calendar.
That's
how
I'm
perceiving
those
hands
is
that
right,
scott
and
others
who
okay
all
right,
then
we'll
send
out
another
well
I'll
work
with
barb.
She
wasn't
able
to
attend
today,
but
I'll
work
with
barb
to
find
a
date
that
works
for
her
and
and
and
still
try
to
get
that
scheduled.
Thank
you
great.
C
Yeah
yeah,
okay,
I
was
focusing
on
the
on
the
other
piece,
okay,
so
so
next
you
know
we
we've
been
talking,
as
so,
the
co-chair
and
leadership
team
about
the
format
as
we
are,
as
we've
moved
online
these
last
months
and
how
much
more
challenging
it
is
to
interact
with
each
other.
This
platform
makes
it
hard
to
even
see
each
other's
faces
at
the
same
time,
and
so
we
wanted
to
start
this
meeting
with
just
a
quick.
You
know
kind
of
round
robin
throughout
the
group
of
each
of
us.
C
Each
of
us
had
getting
a
chance
to
talk
briefly.
You
know,
you
know
30
seconds
to
a
minute,
not
real
long,
but
but
giving
some
conversa
an
update
about
something
that
is
going
on
that
we're
excited
about
it
could
be
in
our
professional
lives.
It
could
be
in
our
community
and
and
volunteer
lives.
It
could
be
in
our
own
personal
lives,
but
something
related
to
housing.
If
that
feels
like
the
right
thing,
if
there's
something
else,
you
want
to
talk
about.
C
That's
okay
too,
but
just
an
update
on
what's
something
you're
you're
currently
working
working
on
or
focusing
on
that
you're
really
excited
about
and
that
you
want
to
share
with
the
group-
and
I
think
it'll
be
helpful.
Just
for
us
to
all
you
know,
as
a
group
also
get
a
chance
to
hear
about
the
scope
of
work.
That
is
happening
which
may
also
you
know,
spark
some
interest
to
work
together,
either
as
a
committee
or
just
separately
as
colleagues
outside
of
this
committee.
C
So
I'll
I'll
just
call
on
people
the
best
that
I
can,
and
I
think
I
if
I
miss
you,
because
I
can't
see
you
then
I'll
make
sure
to
leave
some
space
to
let
someone
else
to
let
people
raise
their
hand
that
way.
But
I
will
start
colleen,
o'connor
toberman
I'll
start
with
you
and
if
you
will
again
just
because
it's
been
a
while,
let's
just
remind
ourselves,
names
and
or
with,
and
and
then
that
question
about
what
we're
excited
about.
D
Sure
I'm
colleen
o'connor
toberman
and
one
thing
I've
been
really
involved
in
that
is
really
interesting.
Is
the
city's
upper
harbor
terminal
redevelopment,
which
is
the
former
shipping
port
on
the
north
minneapolis
riverfront?
D
C
Right,
thanks
for
sharing
that
scott,
have
you
go
next.
E
C
E
Yeah,
so
I
guess,
through
my
yeah,
through
my
job
at
at
mndot,
the
department
of
transportation,
I've
been
working
on
some
kind
of
advancing
transportation,
equity
initiatives
that
are
not
housing
related,
but
it's
you
know
kind
of
focusing
on
how
we
can
use
a
more
rigorous
and
yeah
data.
Rich
understanding
of
the
different
transportation
needs
that
people
have
and
how
our
policies
can
serve
them
better.
L
K
L
In
the
last
week
or
two
I
have
been
super
excited
about
rise,
modulus
project,
because
that
is
a
demonstration
project
of
the
way
forward.
It's
one
of
the
first
tangible
examples
of
innovation
happening
in
our
marketplace
around
housing
that
we've
had
in
a
long
time
so
and
there's
a
whole
deal
flow.
L
That's
lined
up
in
st
paul
with
the
ackerberg
group,
which
is
really
exciting
to
hear,
and
I'm
super
excited
about
the
grant
that
family
housing
fund
got
from
jpmorgan
chase,
because
that
is
again
very
innovative
and
probably
colleen
can
talk
about
that,
because
she's
probably
excited
about
it
too.
E
I
ran
by
the
rise
modular,
it
looks
beautiful.
F
B
C
Great
thanks,
cecil
great
rose.
G
Hi
this
is
rose,
and
I
work
at
the
metropolitan
consortium
of
community
developers
we're
an
association
of
nonprofit
community
development
organizations
in
the
twin
cities,
metro
area
and
it's
not
exactly
housing
policy,
but
I've
been
working
on
putting
together
a
online
conference,
a
virtual
conference
for
community
development
association
staff
across
the
country
and
we're
hosting
that
in
two
weeks
it
was
going
to
be
in
minnesota,
but
obviously
we
had
to
move
to
an
online
format
and
our
keynote
speaker
is
going
to
be
dr
ibrahim
x.
G
Kendy,
I'm
just
talking
about
you,
know
the
recovery
from
an
equitable
recovery
from
the
pandemic
and
kind
of
how
community
development
associations
housing
developers,
what
role
they
have
in
that
in
that
recovery
and
ensuring
that
it's
equitable
and
I'm
really
excited
to
to
have
the
actual
event
here
soon
after
working
on
it
for
for
many
months.
C
Congrats
on
that
pulling
up
a
conference
is
no
small
feat
and
then
doing
it
moving
everything
virtual
is
no
small
feat
like
times
two.
So
good
luck
with
that.
Okay,
I'm
going
through
in
order.
I
see
people
ryan.
F
Hi
everyone
ryan's
track,
minneapolis
schools
and
I'll
take
the
I'll
open
up
the
personal
option.
One
one
thing
I've
been
doing
during
this
pandemic
is
getting
into
walking
a
lot
more.
I
find
that
I
have
a
lot
of
meetings.
I
don't
need
to
actually
beat
my
computer
for
so
trying
to
utilize
the
work
from
a
home
space
and
doing
a
lot
of
walking
meetings.
So
that's
been
something
kind
of
fun
and.
C
C
H
Oh
I'm
excited
we
just
finished
a
rental
readiness
curriculum
called
rent,
smart,
wise
and
ready.
It's
a
really.
I
think
it's
very
comprehensive,
very
timely,
we're
getting
ready
to
start
a
new
cohort
of
families
that
are
going
to
go
through
this
six
hour.
Rental
readiness
training.
Hopefully
it
gets
to
a
place
where
there's
some
type
of
certification
that
comes
with
this.
I
think
it's
going
to
do
well
in
this
season.
C
Great
again,
sorry
joey,
why
don't
you
go
next
day.
B
One
of
the
things
that
I'm
really
excited
about
is
working
with
community-based
partners
and
renter
advocates
on
thinking
about
potential
eviction,
reform
legislation
at
the
capitol
in
the
spring
so
we'll
see,
but
I
think
that
we've
learned
a
lot
through
the
pandemic
and
you
think
there's
a
lot
of
thinking
about
how
how
you
know
what
we
might
be
able
to
take
forward
from
some
of
the
ways
we've
thought
about
evictions
during
this
time
and
making
sure
that
you
know
they're
that
folks
facing
eviction
have
the
time
they
need
to
have
meaningful
due
process
in
those
cases.
B
N
Hi
everyone
shanaya.
I
work
at
simpson,
housing
services
and
I
am
a
part
of
the
adult
shelter
connect
team,
making,
homeless
reservations
and
on
the
evenings
and
weekends
and
something
I'm
excited
about.
We
just
got
funding
to
have
a
diversion
program
and
so
we'll
be
bringing
on
a
few
new
staff,
and
so
I'm
hoping
we'll
have
some
really
great
efforts
diverting,
especially
like
young
folks
and
our
most
vulnerable
elderly
to
various
programs
that
we
know
are
happening
so
that
we
don't
have
them
in
the
shelter
system.
N
Another
thing
that
I'm
excited
about
at
simpson
housing
services
is
we've
really
been
leading
into
a
lot
of
our
anti-racist
work,
and
so
I've
been
a
part
of
creating
you
know
I
was
the
one
who
initially
proposed
it
and
that
was
actually
out
and
about,
but
we
are
hiring
for
a
director
of
an
hr,
and
so
that's
been
really
exciting
to
be
a
part
of
that
work,
group
and
screening
applicants,
and
if
you
know
anyone
who
would
fit
that
role,
please
send
them
to
the
simpson
housing
services
website.
C
Great
thanks
for
that,
and
so
simpson
simpson
website
would
be
the
place
to
direct
people.
You
said
right,
so
anyone
with
good
candidates
send
them
that
her
way,
mary
christensen.
O
This
is
mary
christensen:
I'm
a
city
of
lakes,
community
land
trust,
homeowner
and
the
land
trust
recently
passed.
The
number
400
we've
helped
more
than
400,
first-time
low-income
home
buyers
into
home
ownership.
That's
a
real
milestone.
O
I
personally
teach
tai
chi
I've
been
a
practitioner
for
40
years
and
I
want
to
bring
the
calmness
and
stability
of
tai
chi
to
neighborhood
people,
so
I've
been
teaching
free
classes
on
saturday
mornings
at
eight
o'clock
in
weber,
park
and
you're
welcome
to
come
and
join
us,
and
I
find
on
the
street
in
the
neighborhood,
there's
a
really
welcoming
feeling
of
connection
with
neighbors
on
the
street
as
we
walk
and
talk
to
each
other
and
I'm
very
encouraged
by
the
sense
of
community
in
in
the
neighborhood.
P
Hi
everybody
annie
wells,
they
them
pronouns.
I
work
at
st
stevens.
I
think
the
update
I
will
do
is
about
some
restructuring
that
we
did
internally
at
st
stevens.
P
As
most
of
you
know,
the
housing
and
homelessness
world
tends
to
have
two
separate
processes
for,
and
instead
of,
programs
for
single
adults
experiencing
homelessness
and
families
experiencing
homelessness,
and
that's
how
our
programs
were
set
up
at
st
stephens
in
two
different
departments
with
those
two
different
populations,
and
we
changed
that
late
this
summer
and
we
didn't
merge
the
programs
but
house
them
under
the
same
department
and
so
we're
we're
hoping
that
that
will
increase
consistency
and
continuity
between
the
programs
and
also
just
recognizing
that
you
know
the
frequency
that
families
become
singles
and
singles
become
families
and
just
hopefully,
making
that
whole
process
and
system
smoother
for
everybody.
K
Hello,
everybody-
I
am
doing
a
few
things,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
really
excited
about
is
I'm
partnering
with
my
very
own
bedding
and
I'm
doing
a
community
drive
to
get
items
donated
the
the
organization
they
make
the
brand
new
beds,
but
they
do
drives
for,
like
the
bedding,
the
pillows,
lamps
and
stuff
like
that,
and
so
far
two
of
my
vans
have
been
full
from
the
finnegan's
building.
K
So
I've
been
doing
that
and
organizing
that
to
get
kids
in
some
beds
and
putting
some
smiles
on
their
faces.
So
I'm
excited
about
that
and
then
yesterday
I
met
with
some
residents
over
at
nicolette
and
lawrence
towers
and
they
having
a
lot
of
issues
over
there
so
trying
to
get
them
organized
with
starting
their
tenant
association.
K
Their
management
company
is
telling
them
that
they
can't
do
it,
but
I
gave
them
the
documents
saying
that
they
can
and
so
we're
going
to
see
how
that
goes
and
then
I'll
connect
them
with
homeline
after
that,
and
then
I'll
see
how
it
goes.
But
one
of
the
things
I'm
happy
about
is
the
very
own
bad
project,
great.
C
That
sounds
amazing
thanks
for
sharing
that
yeah.
So
I'm
I
think,
that's
everyone
other
than
me.
So
I'm
colleen
ebbinger
with
the
family
housing
fund
and
I'm
excited
cecil
alluded
this,
but
we
did
just
win.
C
We
were
one
of
we're
one
of
seven
winners
nationally
for
this
jpmorgan
chase,
advancing
cities,
competition
and
our
proposal
was
to
take
advantage
of
some
of
the
changes
to
minneapolis
zoning,
allowing
up
to
three
units
per
person
and
the
cultural
corridors
that
have
been
identified
to
try
to
to
increase
the
number
of
of
low-income
households
and
households
of
color
who
are
owner
occupants
of
a
two
to
four
unit
apartment
buildings,
so
becoming
both
first-time
home
owners,
but
also
property
owners,
rental
property
owners,
landlords,
as
both
a
homeownership
or
as
a
work,
to
reduce
the
disparities
in
homeownership
at
all.
C
So
we're
working
together
with
hope,
community,
greater
housing
fund,
the
land
bank
and
minnesota
homeownership
center
on
that,
and
so
we
are
just
so.
The
announcement
was
just
made
and
we're
just
getting
that
this
kind
of
starting
to
get
up
and
running,
but
it
is
exciting
work.
So
that's
my
update
all
right
well
good.
I
I
I
hope
others
found
this
beneficial.
C
I
know
it
took
a
little
time,
but
I
think
it's
nice
to
just
hear
what
you
all
are
doing,
because
it's
just
it's
so
different
in
this
world
of
being
all
virtual
and
not
being
able
to
see
each
other
around
the
table
and
not
having
those
conversations
just
before
we
start
the
meeting
or
after
the
meeting.
So
it's
it's
inspiring
to
hear
the
stuff
that
that
you're
all
working
on.
So
thank
you
for
sharing
that.
C
Okay.
So
then,
next
on
the
agenda,
we
are
going
to
talk,
give
an
update
about
the
sro
ordinance.
So
scott
is
going
to
lead
us
in
that
discussion.
So
scott
will
pass
it
to
you.
E
I
think
I
am
only
on
an
agenda
for
five
minutes
and
I
think
that'll
be
about
appropriate,
so
yeah.
I
believe
it
was
brandon
and
I
who
were
at
the
meeting
virtual
meeting
with
the
city
of
minneapolis,
about
the
sro
finger
room,
occupancy
ordinance,
and
so
it
was
led
by
council,
member,
gordon
council,
member
schroeder
and
goodman
were
there
as
well
there's
a
lot
of
minneapolis
staff
and
as
well
as
david
hewitt
from
hennepin
county
non-profits,
just
alphabet
duke
right.
E
It
was
aicec,
ywca,
ppl
alliance,
housing,
a
lot
of
non-profit
housing
developers
and
operators,
some
of
them
own
and
operate
sro
properties
themselves.
And
so
that
was
a
really
valuable
perspective.
To
have
some
of
the
questions
that
were
discussed
were
how
we
define
you
know
this
specific
type
of
sro
and
a
couple
variables
are,
you
know,
is
it
just
a
sleeping
room
where
you
know
all
the
residents
chair?
E
You
know
a
set
of
bathrooms
and
a
kitchen
or-
and
it
include
you
know,
a
sleeping
room
and
a
bathroom
and
then
they
stare
at
piston
or
you
know
different
permutations,
and
I
think
people
were
more
flexible
about
that
and
they
thought
that
it
can
be
any
of
those
things.
It
can
just
be
anything
that
you
know
yeah
where
you
don't
have
the
you
know,
living
room,
bathroom
and
kitchen
all
separate,
and
you
know,
for
you
know
the
individual
residential
house,
and
I
guess
the
other
things
we
talked
about
were.
E
Just
kind
of
who
this
is
trying
to
serve,
and
you
know
whether
you
know
this
is
specifically
for
people
like
individual
singles
who
are
who
are
you
know,
experiencing
homelessness
or
whether
it
could
be.
You
know,
for
more
people,
you
know
older
adults
on
a
fixed
income
or
you
know,
students,
I
think,
there's
some
pushback,
especially
from
the
council
members,
against
having
anything
that
would
involve
students
living
in
sros
but
and
then
thinking
about
how
physically
large
you
know
the
square
footage
of
each
unit
and
yeah.
M
E
Talked
about
the
idea
of
having
some
sort
of
outcome
based
management
scheme,
where
you
know
so,
some
of
the
sros
that
are
running
right
now
have
security
or
a
caretaker
who
lives
on
a
floor,
and
you
know
cleans
the
bathrooms
and
kitchens
once
a
day
and
just
deciding
what
level
of
regulation
would
be
appropriate
to.
E
You
know
not
to
do
something
that
would
you
know
ensure
that
that
all
the
problems
were
being
addressed,
and
you
know
all
livability
conditions
are
being
addressed,
but
also
something
that
wouldn't
make
it
so
I'm
expensive
to
run
or
operate
that
no
one
would
want
to
build
them,
and
so
it
was
floated.
Someone
brought
up.
The
idea
of
you
know
having
it
be
outcome
based.
E
So
if
you
have
a
lot
of
complaints,
then
you
know
that
operator
needs
to
pay,
for
security,
to
you
know,
take
care
of
the
building
for
some
period
of
time
and
yeah,
and
then
there's
just
about
the
idea
of
what
requirements.
What
sort
of
affordability
requirements
or
you
know,
how
can
we
keep
students
from
living
in
them
was
was
another
thing
that
was
brought
up?
E
E
People
would
be
served
by
this
and,
let's
see
now
yeah-
and
I
guess
the
last
thing
we
talked
about
was
the
concern
that
it
might
cause
some
displacement-
the
legalization
of
sros,
if
you
know,
there's
a
large
single-family
home
that
has
you
know
five
or
six
bedrooms,
and
then
the
owner
decides
it
would
be
more
profitable
to
drop
it
up
and
turn
it
into
a
sro.
E
A
I
No,
I
thought
that
was
a
great
summary
scott
and
just
basically
really
laid
out
the
complexities
right
in
the
the
various
ways
in
which
we
can
carve
out
this
new
or
this
revived
housing
choice
option.
So
thank
you.
Q
I
agree.
I
think
that
was
a
good
summary.
I
think
it
was
a
very
helpful
meeting
to
the
authors
and
I
think,
probably
also
to
staff
just
in
terms
of
hearing
from
the
the
folks
who
might
who
are
currently
offering
sro
and
rooming
house
options
for
folks
that
they
would
like
more
flexibility,
that
they
think
that
this
is
something
that
that
they
might
actually
use.
So
that's
always
a
good
thing
for
us
to
hear
that
we're
not
just
like
pushing
on
the
end
of
a
rope.
Q
You
know
like
there's,
there's
somebody
who
actually
wants
to
do
this
and
I'll
just
say.
I
think
it's
very
helpful
that
we
have
assigned
a
couple
of
folks
from
this
committee
to
the
work,
and
so
I'm
very
grateful
to
scott
and
to
brenda
for
taking
their
time
and
and
joining
us.
I
think
you
know
once
we've
got
some
some
options
to
look
at
or
once
we've
got
an
actual
proposal.
I
think
it.
It
would
be
very
welcome
to
have
this
committee
as
a
whole.
Q
Look
at
that
and
and
come
up
with
some
recommendations
about
it.
I
don't
know
if
that's
something
that
you
would
want
to
form
some
sort
of
subcommittee
about
or
that
kind
of
thing,
but
I
know
that
that
all
three
of
the
authors
offices
would
really
welcome
that.
E
Thanks
robin
off
the
top
of
your
head,
do
you
remember
the
timeline
for
kind
of
coming
up
with
a
draft
ordinance
or
the
outline
of
one.
Q
You
know
I
might
kick
that
to
to
katie.
I
don't
really
have
a
strong
idea.
I
mean
it's
basically
like
as
soon
as
possible,
but
a
lot
of
people
are
working
on
a
lot
of
other
stuff
right
now,
and
so
it's
just
mostly
a
question
of
capacity.
A
Yeah,
I'm
not
sure
I
don't
know
if
kelly,
if
you
have
a
sense
but
yeah,
I
would,
I
guess,
agree
with
robin's
assessment.
It's
as
soon
as
possible.
I
E
So
if
I'm
running
this
item,
should
I
start
special?
Did
you
have
a
comment
or
a
question.
L
L
Come
in
a
question:
has
the
group
considered
moving
away
from
you?
You
mentioned
it
even
in
your
comments,
the
alphabet
soup,
right
and
and
using
what
has
been
the
terminology.
That's
been
used
in
the
coastal
markets
in
new
york
and
san
francisco,
los
angeles
of
co-living
right.
So
we
call
this
co-living
housing
rather
than
sro,
which
has
its
own
there
there's
certain
stigmas
attached
to
sro.
L
You
know
it's
recovery,
housing
and
things
like
that,
and
and
we
want
people
to
embrace
this
form
of
housing,
it's
a
very
climate,
friendly
form
of
housing
that
has
real
options
so
rebranding
and
thinking
about
the
terminology
that
people
using
in
other
markets
around
co-living
housing
rather
than
you
know
something-
that's
completely
meaningless
to
the
general
public.
L
When
you
say
yes,
sir,
so
that's
one
comment
and
then
the
question
is
on
the
student
housing
piece,
how
that's
extremely
difficult
to
eliminate
because
stu
as
we
know,
college
students
are
very
resourceful.
L
They
don't
have
a
lot
of
money
and
they
figure
out
options
for
housing
and
will
will
even
lie
about
their
student
status
to
be
able
to
get
access
to
affordable
housing.
Because
that's
that's
the
only
thing
you're
discriminating
against
is
this
student
status
and
it's
that's,
usually
a
self-declared
status.
L
So
I'm
just
that
that
strikes
me
as
a
real
conundrum.
If
you
want
that
not
to
be
available
to
students,
because
I
think
students
will
will
work
around
the
system.
Q
So
cecil,
I
think
I
can
speak
to
both
of
those
to
your
first
comment.
I
I
think
that
people
generally
agree
one
of
the
things
that
we're
trying
to
figure
out
is
like,
what's
the
difference
between
an
sro
and
a
rooming
house,
and
does
it
matter,
and
so
as
we're
as
we're
thinking
about
these
categories,
we
may
very
well
collapse
them
down
into
something
into
something
else
that
that
has
a
different
name
and
and
you're
right.
Q
Q
It's
a
question
of
trying
to
prevent
some
of
the
folks
who
build
just
for
the
student
market
from
from
using
this
inappropriately
to
build
something:
that's
not
intended
to
be
affordable,
that's
intended
to
be
pretty
expensive
and
make
them
a
lot
of
money
by
by
packing
students
in
in
a
way
that
they're
the
only
folks
who
would
live
that
way,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
reasons
that
we're
thinking
about
tying
it
to
some
kind
of
affordability
is
to
address
that
and,
and
frankly,
you
know,
if
a
if
a
student
gets
into
a
building
that
has
been
built
with
affordable
rents.
E
Thank
you
all
right.
Thanks,
joey,
you
out
of
your
hand,
up
virtually.
B
Yeah
thanks
scott
two,
just
two
comments
I
would
make-
and
I
know
we're
a
little
over
time,
but
I
think
we're
we're
fine
on
our
agenda.
The
first
is
just
more
process
ways
than
robin
mentioned
this
too.
I
think
this
is
a
really
good
example
of
one
of
the
ways
that
our
committee
can
collaborate
and
function
with
the
city
is
having
these
sort
of
when
it
makes
sense
having
designated
members,
be
sort
of
our
committee's
representative
voice
or
ears
for
some
of
these
initiatives.
B
So
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
this
is,
I
think,
a
productive
way
to
kind
of
do
this
work
with
with
the
city
and
bring
it
back
here
and
then
when
it
makes
sense
to
do
a
more
full
committee.
B
B
My
other
thought
is
or
comment-
and
I
know
we'll
have
time
to
get
into
the
details
you
know
further,
but
from
my
perspective,
at
legal
aid,
you
know
we've
seen
we
and
for
you
know,
we
see
things
when
they
go
wrong
right
typically,
so
I'm
gonna
acknowledge
that.
That's
the
perspective
that
we
see
based
on
what
we
do,
but
I
do
think
it's
really
important
to
be
thinking
about
how
you
know.
B
Rooming
houses
or
similar
types
of
housing
in
the
past
have
been
really
damaged,
damaging
to
people
who
don't
have
any
options
right.
B
They
can
be
as
a
source
or
a
way
for
people
to
really
get
taken
advantage
of,
and
so-
and
I
know
you
know
kelly-
I'm
sure
is
thinking
about
this
from
a
licensing
standpoint,
but
I
just
think
that
piece
is
really
key
to
be,
especially
if
the,
if
we're
trying
to
make
this
housing
available
to
folks
who
you
know,
have
lower
incomes
or
might
not
have
other
housing
options,
and
this
is
their
option
that
we,
you
know,
are
being
extra
thoughtful,
that
that
doesn't
become
a
place.
B
That's
right
for
a
kind
of
abuse,
so
I
just
wanted
to
flag
that
from
you
know
the
legal
aid
side,
that's
how
we've
seen
these
play
out
is
really
hurting
people
and
even
things
like
kind
of
scouting
out
potential,
rumors
from
homeless,
shelters
or
from
you
know,
people
exiting
prison,
or
things
like
that.
So
I
just
wanted
to
name
that
and
and
hope
that
that's
being
considered,
I'm
sure
it
is
being
considered,
but
something
that
I'll
be
interested
in
talking
about
more.
As
the
proposal
develops.
I
I
To
I
mean,
then
we
don't
have
problems
right,
but
if
you're
a
negligent
property
owner
or
somehow
predatory,
then
there's
an
issue,
and
you
know
we're
hoping
that
the
vast
majority
of
folks
who
get
into
this
type
of
housing
are
going
to
be
great
responsible
folks.
But
you
know
joey
you,
and
I
know
that
is
not
always
clearly,
not
always
the
case
or
we
wouldn't
be
here
necessarily-
and
you
know
having
these
conversations
over
and
over
again
so,
but
that
is
always
going
to
be
our
issue.
E
Thanks
if
there
are
any
other
questions,
I'll
ask
it.
C
G
A
Sorry
ripti
rose.
This
is
katie
for
for
folks
on
the
phone.
The
powerpoint
is
linked
in
the
agenda
as
well.
M
Okay,
I
can't
even
is
it
where's,
your
shared
window
sharing
is
paused
until
you
return
to
the
shared
window.
What
does
that
mean.
G
B
G
Great,
can
we
just
do
it
like
this,
then
I
think
when
I
oh
wait,
I
figured
it
out,
I'm
I'm
so
sorry,
it's
okay!
Does
that
work,
perfect!
Okay,
there's
a
okay
great!
So,
and
I
guess
so.
I
can't
see
anybody
when
I'm
doing
this.
I
can
only
see
the
slideshow
myself
so
just
just
to
let
you
know
I'll
do
the
I
guess
I'll
just
do
the
whole
slideshow
and
then
and
then
I'll
close
it
so
and
just
I
guess,
to
start
off
with
you
know,
I
think.
G
Last
year
we
had
somebody,
you
know
who
was
involved
in
the
budget.
Making
process
share
a
little
bit
about
the
2020
budget
and
obviously
I
don't
work
for
the
city
and
was
not
part
of
making
this
budget,
so
I'm
coming
at
it
more.
You
know
from
an
outside
perspective,
as
kind
of
a
housing
advocate-
and
I
know
there
are
people
on
this
call
who
are
who
have
had
a
closer
have
been
involved
in
this
budget
process.
G
So
if
anybody
wants
to
interrupt
at
any
time
if
I've
gotten
something
wrong
or
if
you
know
you
have
other
information
that
you
think
the
committee
would
like
to
hear-
I
think
I'd
just
be
just
you
know,
kind
of
as
a
disclaimer,
I'm
totally
open
to
that,
and
just
want
people
to
to
know
that.
G
But
I
guess
from
my
perspective,
working
at
mccd
the
budget
is
something
that
we
kind
of
pay
attention
to
every
year,
particularly
as
it
relates
to
resources
for
affordable
housing
development,
because
our
members
do
that's
what
what
the
majority
of
our
members
do
is
build,
affordable
housing.
G
So
so
everything
that
I
have
listed
on
this
presentation
is
just
what
has
is
publicly
available
when
you
want
to
kind
of
look
into
what
is
proposed
for
for
the
budget,
so
got
these
all
off
of
the
2021
budget
website.
But
I
think
our
or
you
know
my
original
thought
process
here
was
just
to
kind
of
highlight
some
of
the
changes
that
are
in
the
budget
for
housing
and
at
the
end,
there's
kind
of
like
a
resource
for
where
you
can
find
all
of
these
links
too.
G
So
I
think
you
know,
we've
talked
for
people
who
have
you
know
been
following
kind
of
the
budget.
There
was
a
like
a
revision
for
the
budget
for
the
2020
budget
earlier
this
year.
I
think
everybody
is
aware
that
kovit
had
has
had
kind
of
a
negative
impact
on
on
the
city
financial
status.
I
guess
hopefully
I'm
not
saying
that
into
in
a
offensive
way,
but
so
there
are
some.
G
I
think,
budget
reduction
targets
for
all
of
the
departments
for
community
planning
and
economic
development
cped,
where
a
lot
of
the
housing
resources
come
from.
It
looks
like
a
seven
percent
reduction
with,
and
you
know
the
numbers.
The
numbers
are
here,
so
2.37
million
in
personnel
costs
637
000
in
discretionary
spending.
It's
cutting
the
4d
budget
by
a
little
bit
and
then
there
are
also
some
some
changes
additions.
G
I
guess
for
some
of
these
different
programs
too,
so
adding
a
million
dollars
in
ongoing
investment
to
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund
program,
which
is
where
a
lot
of
the
multi-family
rental
housing
is
built.
2
million
an
ongoing
investment
to
minneapolis
homes,
which
is
where
a
lot
of
the
home
ownership
funding
comes
from.
2
million
for
the
naturally
occurring,
affordable,
housing
preservation,
the
stable
home,
stable
schools
program
is
being
made
into
a
permanent
program.
G
I
think
from
shifting
from
a
from
a
pilot
program
and
some
additional
funding
for
tenant
resources,
and
here
is
just
kind
of
a
a
picture
of
the
the
actual
kind
of
numbers
that
go
along
with
those
changes
you
can
see
on
the
left-hand
side,
there's
a
2019
adopted
budget
and
some
of
the
numbers
there,
the
2020
adopted
budget
and
then
that
third
column
is
the
mayor's
recommendation
for
2021
and
then
the
other
columns,
I
believe,
are
you
know
where
that
funding
is
coming
from
what
the
specific
sources
are,
whether
it's
general
fund
or
other.
G
You
know,
programs
that
or
other
programs,
so
the
the
ones
that
you
know
we
usually
pay
attention
to
are
just
here.
In
this
affordable
housing,
this
third
box-
and
that's
where
the
you
know,
the
trust
fund
and
some
of
the
other
programs
are.
G
Items
as
well
and
then
the
other,
I
think,
area
that
you
know
we
pay
attention
to
is
in
regulatory
services,
and
it
looks
like
a
1.6
million
dollar
budget
reduction
for
regulatory
services.
These
quotes
here
are
just
from
the
from
the
from
the
budget
document
itself.
There's
you
know
a
narrative
section
which
kind
of
discusses
the
change
items
and
then
just
kind
of
over
overview
for
each
budget.
I
mean
for
each
department-
and
this
is
what
was
I
thought
was
interesting
that
was
highlighted
here
is
kind
of
just
this.
G
This
line
here
that
the
at
the
staffing
level,
the
department,
would
have
limited
ability
for
proactive
enforcement
and
would
shift
to
routine
and
urgent
work
and
specifically,
as
it
relates
to
housing
inspections,
that
this
is
at
a
time
when
we
will
experience
an
increase
in
renter
complaints
due
to
new
expectations
around
mpha
properties,
and
these
impacts
will
increase
greatly
if
filled
positions
are
cut
as
detailed
in
the
alternative
approaches.
So
just
something
to
highlight
there
a
little
bit
about
the
budget
calendar.
G
The
mayor's
budget
address
was
in
august
and
right
now
we're
in
this
october,
just
starting
this
october,
8th
through
november
5th,
where
each
department
kind
of
gives
a
detailed
budget
presentation.
The
two
that
I
wanted
to
highlight
here
are
the
cped
presentation
in
the
regulatory
services
presentation
later
this
month
and
then
also
the
public
hearings
process.
So
it
looks
like
there
is
a
public
hearing
during
the
day
on
the
16th,
where
you
know
anybody
can
come
and
give
their
thoughts
on
on
the
budget.
G
I
am
you
know,
short
comments
like
two
minutes,
I
think
and
then
based
on
those
comments
or
other
things,
I
guess
city
council
members
will
have
the
ability
to
to
make
changes
to
this
proposed
budget
on
december
3rd
and
then
on
the
9th
there'll
be
one
last
public
meeting
and
a
vote
on
the
budget.
G
So
for
our
committee,
I
think
the
questions
that
we
have
here
are
just.
How
does
our
committee
want
to
engage
in
this
process
and
are
there
any
areas
that
we
would
like
to
comment
on?
What
are
our
priorities
and
do
you
feel
like
they're,
reflected
in
this
budget
as
it's
proposed?
G
Do
you
think
that
anything
is
missing
or
maybe
undervalued?
Are
there
any
things
that
you
want
to
support
in
the
budget
to
make
sure
that
it
doesn't?
It
doesn't
change
as
as
the
budget
kind
of
goes
through
this,
this
process
of
being
amended
or
changed,
and
then,
if
there
are
items
that
we
feel
like,
we
want
to
comment
on
just
some
different
options
for
for
providing
comments
and
different
ways
that
we
can
engage
and
just
curious.
How
committee
members,
what
level
of
engagement
committee
members
want
to
to
take
on.
G
M
K
J
B
Hi,
thank
you.
Thank
you
rose
so
much
for
for
taking
the
time
to
present
that
and
I'll
just
note
that,
in
the
chat
andrea
from
the
mayor's
office,
just
noted
that
there's
another
public
hearing
on
december,
2nd
at
6
00
p.m
prior
to
the
budget.
B
Markup
number
one
meeting,
so
I
just
wanted
to
voice
that
from
the
chat,
and
so
I
think
for
our
committee
plan
we're
grateful
to
have
council
member
gordon
here
with
us
today
and
we're
going
to
hear
from
him
and
then
we're
going
to,
I
think,
get
into
a
kind
of
a
discussion
about
the
budget
and
the
questions
that
rose
just
brought
up.
So
thank
you.
So
much
councilmember
for
being
here.
R
R
That's
moving
through
the
council,
and
I
want
to
first
of
all
just
really
thank
committee
members
for
working
on
the
sro
or
the
sleeping
room
or
the
rooming
house,
ordinance
amendments
that
we're
making
that's
moving
along.
We've
made
some
progress
in
terms
of
meeting
and
collecting
thoughts
and
gathering
that
and
I'm
hoping
to
bring
something
forward
and
hoping
to
have
your
insights
help
shape
that
by
the
end
of
the
year.
R
I
also
wanted
to
make
sure
that
folks
were
aware
that
we're
working
on
the
emergency,
shelter
ordinance
as
well,
whereas
with
that
sro,
I
came
to
you
as
we
were
starting
on
that.
But
this
is
something
that
we've
had
some
of
the
shelter
providers
come
and
talk
to
us
about,
because
we
fixed
the
ordinance,
we
thought
or
we
improved
it
or
whatever
tweaked
it
a
while
ago,
to
allow
emergency
shelters
more
places.
R
If
you
know
the
history
for
a
long
time,
the
city
required
them
to
be
linked
to
a
place
of
religious
assembly.
Well,
we
uncoupled
that
and
we
also
allowed
them
in
more
places
in
the
city,
including
residential
areas,
but
we
limited
the
number
who
could
be
there
and
we're
getting.
Things
are
coming
up
more
frequently
now
about
emergency
shelters
and
it
doesn't
work
if
the
numbers
are
limited
so
low.
R
So
we're
looking
at
expanding
the
numbers,
maybe
in
some
of
the
zoning
districts,
having
no
limit
on
the
number
of
people
that
could
live
there,
but
also
focusing
in
on
residential
areas,
especially
I'll
just
call
out
an
example
that
made
this
glaringly
clear
when
they
there
was
a
proposal
to
use
the
gordon
center
as
a
shelter,
and
this
is
a
large
old
school
building-
that's
quite
big,
but
it
happened
to
be
in
a
residential
zoning
district.
R
So
one
of
the
things
we're
working
on
is
maybe,
when
it's
in
a
residential
district,
we
look
at
the
building
and
the
size
of
it,
and
we
have
some
flexibility
built
in
there
so
that
it
could
kind
of
match
with
that.
So
that's
something
to
pay
attention
to,
and
maybe
you
got
too
much
detail,
but
I
think
sometimes
a
little
detail
will
get
you
more
excited
and
you
might
want
to
engage
more,
so
I
was
trying
to
offer
some
of
that.
Another
thing
that's
coming
up.
R
Of
course
I
wanted
to
come
up
by
the
end
of
the
year.
I'm
worried.
We
won't
really
take
action
until
next
year.
That
you've
probably
heard
about
is
a
tenant
opportunity
to
purchase.
So
this
is
something
that
we're
trying
to
build
on
this
advanced
notice
of
sale
for
rental
property
and
so
that
we
can
have
a
tenant
opportunity
to
purchase.
You
should
pay
attention
because
we're
actually
having
a
report
back
to
the
committee,
the
results
of
the
study
and
some
recommendations
that
will
be
coming
forward
soon.
R
My
understanding
is,
as
often
happens
when
it's
consultants
or
city
staff,
making
recommendations
they're
going
to
come
in
with
a
pretty
big
budget.
Ask
because
they
think
it's
going
to
take
a
lot
of
staff
to
implement
it.
R
So
if
you're
talking
about
the
budget,
you
might
want
to
pay
attention
to
that
and
see
what
makes
sense
and
how
we
move
forward
on
that
and
there's
another
thing
that
I
think
is
coming
up
early
next
year,
which
is
kind
of
a
right
to
representation
for
tenants,
and
I
think
I
think
I've
named
that
correctly
but
for
legal
representation,
hopefully
you're
paying
attention
to
that
too.
R
So
I
just
wanna
thank
you
for
all
that.
You're
doing,
and
also
let
you
know
your
anybody
individually
or
you
as
a
group,
are
welcome
to
reach
out
to
me,
and
probably
other
council
offices
too,
about
initiatives
you
have
that
you're
interested
in
or
ideas
you
have
for
how
we
could
set
better
policy.
B
Great,
thank
you
so
much
councilmember
for
all
your
work
on
those
important
projects
and
for
taking
the
time
with
us
today.
You
kind
of
touched
on
this
with
noting
that
you
know
your
open
door
and
we've
had
a
few
of
our
committee
members
participate
in
the
in
the
single
room
occupancy
conversations.
B
Do
you
have
any
other
feedback
for
us
or
comments
on
how
best
we
can
engage
with
the
council
and
what
is
most
helpful
for
you?
Is
it
mostly?
You
know
having
we
really
appreciate
things
being
brought
here
and
having
the
opportunity
to
comment,
but
if
you
have
any
other
comments
on
how
we
can
be
most
helpful
for
the
city,
welcome
that.
R
So
a
lot
of
it
is
probably
about
timing,
so
there's
lots
of
times
in
the
course
of
some
policy
decision
or
some
idea
where
it's
going
to
be
hard
for
policy
makers
to
even
take
it
on,
because
it
isn't
necessarily
touching
them.
R
So
the
the
the
piece
about
the
timing
and,
of
course,
if
it's
something
that
isn't
even
initiated
yet
at
the
council,
that's
a
different
you've
got
to
get
somebody
to
pay
attention
anyway,
but
where
the
biggest
impact
can
happen
is
the
steps
along
the
way
where
things
are
being
shaped
and
where
there's
an
actual
decision
point.
R
So
that's
it's
good
you're,
looking
at
the
budget
now
and
you're
thinking
about
that,
because
that's
definitely
a
big
thing,
that's
coming
up
soon,
but
that
would
be
one
recommendation
and
aside
from
that,
though,
it
doesn't
hurt
to
build
relationships
just
along
the
way
and
schedule
some
kind
of
check-ins,
and
especially,
if
you
well,
you
do
all
of
you-
do
live
somewhere
in
the
city,
but
to
think
about
who,
where
you
live
and
who
your
council
member
is
for
that
area,
and
I
I
I
presumably
want
to
be
a
little
bit
of
a
voice
for
the
folks
in
your
area
and
build
a
relationship
with
that.
R
Council
member
can't
hurt
at
all
just
to
do
a
check-in
and
a
lot
of
times,
especially
if
it's
a
constituent,
especially
for
constituent
who's
volunteering
on
an
advisory
committee,
we'll
want
to
take
a
meeting
and
we'll
want
to
build
that
relationship.
So
we
have
a
good
and
healthy
working
relationship
too.
So.
B
L
You
mentioned,
thank
you
for
being
here,
councilmember
gordon
you
mentioned
topa.
Have
you,
can
you
give
any
indication
of
the
scope
of
topper?
Are
we
thinking
single
family
on
app
or
are
we
focused
on
a
particular
size
of
multi-family.
R
So
I
haven't
gotten
my
preview
briefing.
So,
okay,
you
know
I'm
I'm
you
know
me,
I'm
I'd
like
to
see
it
pretty
wide
open
and
have
lots
of
opportunities
and
options,
but
I
don't
know
because
we
did
certainly
have
some
discussions
early
on
about
washington,
dc's
model
and
those
other
things
I
katie
might
have
more
of
a
preview
of
the
study
than
I
have,
but
she
might
want
to
keep
all
that
information
wait
until
the
consultants
actually
put
it
forward.
I
don't
know
what
the
thinking
is.
R
A
I
can
I
mean
just
briefly,
I
can
add,
I
mean
I
think,
there's
still
details
being
sorted
out
and
and
obviously
you
know,
meetings
that
will
be
happening
with
council
members
and
stakeholders
and
others.
So
I
I
think,
like
obviously
nothing
decided,
but
the
the
consultants
have
been
looking
at.
So
what
the
report
will
include
is
sort
of
a
range
of
policy
options
that
the
city
could
consider
and
single
family
is
something
that
they're
looking
at
is
at
least
something
that
the
they're
looking
at
how
single
family
could
work
in
in
minneapolis.
Q
So
maybe
I
can
give
just
a
little
bit
more
of
an
answer
for
you
cecil.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
interest,
especially
from
the
north
side.
Council
members,
where
we're
a
large
percentage
of
the
housing
stock,
especially
the
affordable
housing
stock,
is
single-family
homes
in
getting
to
the
point
where
this
would
apply
to
single-family
homes
as
well.
Q
Understanding
that
there's
a
there's,
a
pretty
big
difference
between
somebody
who
owns
200
single-family
homes
and
somebody
who
owns
one
as
a
rental
and
and
where
that
line
is
between
somebody
who
is
operating
a
business
that
is
tens
or
dozens
of
of
single-family
homes
that
they're
renting
out,
and
somebody
who
literally
owns
one
place
that
they're
renting
is
a
thing
that
I
think
we'll
be
we'll
be
considering
and
how
we
draw
that
line
and
then
acknowledging
that
we
don't
necessarily
have
a
very
good
way
of
tracking
ownership
across
all
of
the
different
buildings
right
now.
R
So
if
there
are
questions,
could
I
just
say
one
more
thing
at
our
last
committee,
where
we
took
up
housing
issues,
which
is
now
the
business
inspections
and
housing
and
zoning
committee,
I
think
we're
calling
it.
We
had
a
couple
really
nice
things
move
forward.
I
think
critical
things
may
be.
Nice
is
the
wrong
word,
but
positive
steps.
We
approved
funding
for
a
tiny
village
that
would
potentially
provide
shelter
this
winter
for
a
hundred
people.
R
R
There's
been
a
bit
of
a
wrestling
match
here
in
the
policy
makers,
whether
we
should
ever
invest
city
money
in
operations
and
we've
now
moved
that
quite
far
recently,
and
this
is
going
to
make
this
possible
because
there's
other
sources
that
we're
hoping
will
allow
them
to
do
their
tiny
home
village
and
they
even
have
a
warehouse
site
where
it's
going
to
be
inside.
You've,
probably
heard
of
that,
we
also
approved
another
shelter
that
could
open
in
december.
R
That
will
be
in
some
buildings
the
cedar
box
company
used
to
be
called
it's
right
near
where
the
navigation
center
was
a
few
years
ago,
but
this
will
be
a
much
better
kind
of
emergency
shelter
because
there'll
be
bathrooms
and
facilities
and
eating
areas
right
inside
of
a
building,
and
it
will
all
be
sheltered.
So
those
are
two
significant
things
that
we
had
to
change
our
policies
about
a
little
bit
and
we
had
to
change
the
way
we
fund
things
and
the
committees
moved
them
forward.
R
But
you
still
have
a
chance
to
tell
council
members
if
you
think
they're
a
good
idea
before
a
week
from
friday,
when
the
whole
council
is
going
to
decide
on
them
and
they'll
become
more
of
a
reality.
But
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
about
that.
I
see
that
as
pretty
good
steps
for
us
to
be
taking
right
now
that
took
a
lot
of
work
to
get
here
from
a
lot
of
different
people.
K
Committee
members-
yes,
this
is
karina,
go
ahead!
Hello,
council,
gordon
and
thank
you
for
being
here.
K
Yes,
have
a
question:
do
you
know
if
there's
any
like
real,
solid
plans
that
you
might
be
aware
of
where
we
can
hear
you
know
more
permanent
housing
for
the
unsheltered
that
can
be
out
there?
Maybe
it's
in
conversation
but
like
if
there's
anything
solid
for
permanent
housing
or
support
of
you
know
housing
for
the
unsheltered.
R
Well,
that's
usually
comes
up
on
a
project
by
project
basis
and
they're
definitely
are
I'm
just
so.
Katie
probably
knows
the
next
projects
that
have
just
gotten
some
funding,
there's
even
some
funding
that
came
from
the
met
council.
So
there's
nothing.
I
mean
there's
some
that
have
been
being
built
and
they'll
be
opening
soon
too
and
others,
but
katie.
You
want
to
wait.
A
Sure
I
can
comment
on
that.
So
there
are,
you
know
a
couple
that
either
just
opened
our
or
are
imminently.
Opening
one
is
park.
Seven
another
is
mino
bd.
I
can't
pronounce
it
mino
bdg
win
mino
b.
We
call
it
for
short,
which
is
also
near
where
the
navigation
center
was
across,
from
where
the
the
new
homeward-bound
aicdc
project
for
shelter
will
be.
There
are
110
units
of
permanent,
affordable,
supportive
housing
for
people.
A
Who've
experienced
homelessness
that
are
opening,
I
think,
projected
to
open
by
the
end
of
the
year,
and
then
the
city
put
out
a
request
for
proposal
in
the
spring
for
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund
dollars
that
we
award
to
help
build
permanent,
supportive
housing,
and
so
we
will
be
announcing
the
funding
recommendations
for
those
or
bringing
the
bringing
the
recommendations
to
council
by
the
end
of
the
year,
and
so
that
will
be
more
creation
of
more
permanent,
supportive
housing
with
city
dollars
and
then
just
generally
speaking,
I
mean
every.
A
We
know
that
by
february
of
next
year,
from
from
sort
of
the
range
of
this
summer
to
february
of
next
year,
there
were
going
to
be
220
new
units
of
permanent
supportive
housing,
closing
on
financing
and
and
a
number
opening.
A
A
Of
course
it
takes
usually
a
couple
of
years
from
when
we
award
the
money
to
when
the
units
can
open,
but
because
this
has
been
happening
now
for
several
years,
we're
starting
to
see
those
units
come
open.
So
I
could
certainly
work
on
a
more
comprehensive
list,
but
I
can
just
say
you
know
those
two
developments
that
I
mentioned
have
are
opening
now,
and
I
know
there
are
more
that
will
open
over
the
next
couple
of
months
and
then
as
council
member
gordon
mentioned
there
are.
A
You
know
these
new
shelter
proposals,
opening,
there's
also
envision
community
that
we're
still
working
with,
which
is
permanent
housing
but
tiny
homes
that
we're
still
working
with
them
proactively
to
try
to
find
some
sites.
A
K
Okay,
cool
and
then
how
will
how
would
they
know?
How
would
they
hear
about
it,
those
that
are
looking,
you
know
to
be
housed?
How
would
they
get
the
word?
How
would
the
word
get
out
to
the
public
about
the
permanent
housing
buildings
that
are
available
for
them
to
occupy?
How
would
they,
how
would
the
word
get
out.
A
So-
and
I
might
actually
ask
annie
or
shanaya
to
comment
on
this
as
well,
I
mean
the
units
that
are
permanent,
supportive
housing
and
dedicated.
For
you
know,
people
who've
been
experiencing
homelessness
are,
are
typically
filled
through
the
coordinated
entry
system
with
hennepin
county.
So
often
people
are
hearing
about
it
through
through
connections.
That
way,
I
think
the
other
resource
that
is
probably
important
for
everyone
to
be
aware
of.
A
If
you're
helping
people
look
for
housing
as
housing
link,
so
any
project
that
the
city
funds
we
require
that
the
vacancies
be
posted
on
housing
link,
so
it's
housinglink.org
and
their
housing
links
a
non-profit
organization
that
keeps
a
list
of
all
of
affordable
rental
housing,
availability
open.
So
a
lot
of
case
workers
work
with
it,
but
individuals
can
work
with
it
as
well
and
it
has
both.
A
You
know,
units
that
were
funded
with
government
assistance
and
and
units
that
weren't,
so
just
private
landlords
putting
their
units
on
housing
link,
and
so
I
would
say
those
are
kind
of
the
two.
A
B
B
No,
no,
no
problem,
so
I
think
we
might
kind
of
move
on
to
the
rest
of
our
discussion.
Obviously,
council
member
you're
welcome
to
stay
or
you're
welcome
to
to
move
on
to
your
next
thing
either
way,
but
thank
you
so
much
for
for
being
here.
B
All
right,
katie
same
question:
are
you
is
your
hands?
Did
you
have
something
specific
sorry
all
right,
I'll
pass
it
maybe
back
to
colleen
and
rose
to
move
to
this
next
part
and
maybe
colleen?
If
you
want
to
give
a
little
update
about
the
the
report
and
kind
of
explain
the
two
things
we're
talking
about
now,.
C
C
M
C
In
that
yeah
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
wasn't
confusing
with
the
other
okay,
so
the
so.
You
may
recall
that
last
spring
we
worked
through
a
report
to
the
housing
or
to
the
the
council
to
the
council
committee
about
to
kind
of
give
an
update
on
the
work
that
we
have
done.
As
a
committee
in
our
first
year.
C
We
never
actually
made
that
commit
that
live
report,
so
I
think
we
did
submit
it
virtual
or
you
know,
by
email,
but
we
never
actually
presented
it
because,
because
I'm
a
pandemic
hit
at
the
meeting
that
we
were
to
present
it
to
so,
but
but
we're
coming
up
on
kind
of
the
end
of
another
of
this
full
year
and
wanted
to
provide
that
report
and
start
talking
about
providing
that
report
to
the
to
the
council
committee.
C
But
in
part
part
of
that
would
be
a
comment
on
the
budget
and
what
sort
of
recommendations
this
committee
may
want
to
have.
So
you
know
we
started
this
conversation
with
rose,
giving
kind
of
a
general
overview
of
what
the
budget
is
looking
like
as
proposed
for
2021,
and
so
this
would
be
our
opportunity
to
talk
through
it
more
think
about
what
sort
of
comments
we
want
to
make
as
a
committee
it's
in
the
right
direction.
C
C
I
see
has
his
hand
up
go
ahead.
Ryan.
F
Thanks,
I
will
never
pass
a
chance
to
speak
about
stable
home,
stable
schools.
I
don't
know
how
much
in
detail.
We've
talked
about
the
program,
but
it
is
one
from
my
perspective,
which
is
from
a
student
and
school
perspective,
has
made
a
pretty
massive
difference
and
I
I'm
glad
to
see
it
proposed
as
a
permanent
program,
and
I
hope
that
the
committee
will
consider
flagging
that
as
something
we
support.
In
particular,
it
has
particularly
unique
program
design
in
that
it
has
two
kind
of
paths.
One
is
an
eviction
prevention,
a
housing
stability
side.
F
So
it's
able
to
respond
there
prior
to
someone
losing
their
housing,
but
also
has
a
rental
assistance
component
with
this
wraparound
partnership.
It's
a
jurisdictional
partners
are
the
city,
the
county
and
the
school
district.
But
then
there
is
a
contracted
non-profit
partner,
the
y
and
then
I
sorry
neglected
them
pha,
but
the.
Why
does
the
services
and
partnership
of
the
school
social
workers?
F
And
so
it's
this
really
unique
two
generation
program
which
is
serving
both
adults
and
allowing
them
to
figure
out
how
both
housing,
as
well
as
employment
and
other
things,
and
also
then
stabilizing
the
student
at
their
school
and
giving
them
that
support
that
they
need,
and
so
it
has.
We
just
it's
great
timing.
F
We
just
had
a
committee
steering
committee
update
yesterday
on
the
program
and
we
were
able
to
hear
from
two
moms
who
shared
the
impact
the
programs
made
for
them,
but
as
of
end
of
september,
it
served
2300
children
already
and
that's
of
801
families.
So
I'm
just
trying
to
put
out
into
the
space
that
it
has
been
a
really
great
innovative
program
that
I
think
is
fully
ready
to
move
into
a
permanent
status.
So
I
would
appreciate
the
committee
noting
that,
if
possible
thank.
B
B
You
know
we
don't
have
kelly's
magic,
sticky
wall,
but
to
kind
of
best
replicate
that
just
so
that
we
can
be
kind
of
seeing
some
of
these
ideas
on
the
virtual
page
and
the
way
I
have
it
divided
is
specific
comments
on
the
budget
and
then
as
we're
talking,
if
other
feedback
to
the
city
that
we
want
to
include
in
our
report
of
things
that
we
want
the
city
to
be
prioritizing
in
2021
there'll
be
a
space
for
that
too.
D
Yeah.
Thank
you.
This
is
colleen
o'connor,
toberman
ryan.
Thanks
for
your
comments,
I
noticed
in
rose's
presentation
that
it
seemed
like
the
amount
being
allocated
to
the
program
is
changing.
D
F
Sure-
and
I
don't
know
if
andrea
or
anyone
else
wants
to
jump
in,
but
I
think
the
basic
premise
is
kind
of
a
it
speaks
to
the
success
of
the
program,
so
it
has,
while
some
of
the
city
funding
contribution,
is
reducing,
there's
actually
been
a
receipt
of
a
large
state
grant
for
the
program,
as
well
as
some
phil
philanthropic
dollars
that
have
come
and
come
into
play
so
that
it
can
maintain
its
service
level.
F
I
think
the
general
level
feels
like
a
good
place
to
be
for
now,
based
on
how
especially
the
size
of
units,
I
think
has
been
something
that
we've
we
thought
may
be
an
issue,
but
a
lot
of
families
with
four
or
five
or
six
children
and
we're
trying
to
find
quite
large
units.
F
So
I
don't
know
if
andrea
wants
to
add
anything,
but
I
I
think
the
general
sense
is
that
the
way
the
funding
looks
on
the
city,
spreadsheet
may
not
be
indicative
of
the
commitment
to
the
program,
because
it
has
these
all
these
other
funding
sources,
but
that
the
service
level
is
slated
to
continue
at
it.
At
its
current.
S
S
So
the
where
we
arrived
at
the
2.2
million
was
based
as
ryan,
was
saying
on
what
what
we
found
through
the
last
year
and
a
half
of
with
our
staff
capacity
at
all
the
different
entities,
as
well
as
the
housing
market,
how
quickly
we're
able
to
get
families
through
the
program
and
into
housing.
S
So
we
have
structured
this
to
look
like
being
able
to
continue
at
the
same
pace,
which
is
a
pace
that
we
feel
like
isn't
mean
as
fast
as
we
can
given
the
sort
of
restrictions
of
the
of
the
market
in
particular,
and
one
other
piece,
though,
that
I
would
note
is
that
it
looks
kind
of
it
does
look
like
a
reduction
because
of
the
way
that
the
budget
book
works,
but
because
it
was
a
pilot
program
for
only
three
years
and
we
were,
but
we
were
making
three-year
commitments
to
families.
S
On
the
rental
assistance
side,
we
were
essentially
planning
for
six
up
to
six
years
worth
of
services
so
because
some
families
would
enter
in
year
three
and
have
a
three-year
commitment
with
a
three-year
funding
period.
So
by
making
it
permanent.
We
no
longer
have
that
mismatch
between
the
service
timeline
and
the
funding
timeline,
so
that
sort
of
also
out
kind
of
explains
why
it
looks
like
it's
a
reduction
but
we're
able
to
keep
the
same
amount
of
services.
S
And
then
the
third
thing,
I
would
just
add,
is
ryan's
right.
We
did
just
receive
the
homework
starts
with
home
grant
for
the
next
three
years
and
that
funding
is
actually
going
to
increase
the
amount
of
services
that
families
are
eligible
for.
So
on
the
rental
assistance
side,
we've
been
able
to
provide
really
robust
wrap-around
services
through
the
existing
partnership
with
the
y
through
this
homework,
search
with
home,
grant,
we're
able
to
add
capacity
at
both
mps
and
at
mpha
to
at
mps,
continue
and
expand
the
partnership
between
housing
and
and
school
time.
S
So
to
make
sure
that
that
connection
and
the
success
that
we're
having
on
housing
can
really
translate
into
success
in
their
school
lives
as
well.
And
then
the
mpha
staff
is
going
to
help
us
be
able
to
provide
deeper
services
to
the
families
who
are
getting
that
one-time
emergency
assistance
funding
so
that
they'll
be
able
to
access
some
additional
services
to
help
them
with
whatever
referrals
they
might
need
for
other
kinds
of
services.
And
things
like
connecting
to
budgeting
and
workforce
training.
And
things
like
that.
C
C
D
This
is
colleen
o'connor
run
again.
The
only
thing
I'll
say
is
that
I
feel
like
it's
a
little
bit.
You
know
in
in
a
year
where
there
are
budget
reductions
city-wide
and
it's
not
an
easy
budget
year.
It
just
feels
tough
to
make
informed
comments
without
sort
of
understanding
where
else
in
the
city
reductions
are
coming
from.
D
C
Okay,
what
about
I'm
sorry
yeah
go
ahead
and
I
I
can't
tell
who
that
is
talking.
So
it's.
G
Rose-
and
I
just
had
a
question
you
know-
we
haven't-
talked
much
about
affordable
home
home
ownership
in
in
our
last
couple
of-
I
guess
you
know
through
our
time
on
this
committee,
and
I
did
just
notice,
you
know-
and
maybe
this
is
a
question
for
for
katie,
I'm
not
really
sure,
but
in
2019
the
budget
for
minneapolis
homes
looks
like
it
was
a
little
over
5
million
and
right
now
in
2021,
it's
I
think,
proposed
at
2.75
million,
and
I
don't
know
if
I
think,
maybe
you
know
david
or
mary
if
they
have
any
comments
on
on
that
or
katie
just
in
terms
of
like
what
our
ability
is
to
kind
of
you
know,
make
an
impact
in
that
home
ownership
space
with
that
level
of
funding.
G
I
know
you
know
just
in
terms
of
home
ownership
being
being
a
source
of
wealth
creation
and
given
kind
of
our
racial
homeownership
gap
that
that
we
see
in
the
city
and
the
state.
If
that
is.
A
I
can
just
maybe
comment
on
the
like
the
amount
and
andrea
feel
free
to
also
comment
if
in
terms
of
the
budget,
so
the
the
amounts
from
the
past
from
last
year.
So
the
difference
is
that
it
was
one-time
funding,
and
this
the
proposed
funding
this
year
is
ongoing
funding
it's
in
its
base
funding.
A
A
So
that's
just
I'm
not
really
trying
to
comment
one
way
or
the
other
on
on
your
question
other
than
to
just
share
that
that
background
information,
andrea,
do
you
have
any?
Is
I'm
getting
that
right,
correct,
yeah,.
S
I
guess
I'll
just
answer
generally
sort
of
to
both
questions.
I
think
one
of
the
things
well.
I
know
that
one
of
the
things
that
the
mayor
really
wanted
to
focus
on
this
year
is
transitioning
our
budget
as
much
as
possible
to
more
ongoing
funding.
S
Instead
of
this
reliance
on
one-time
funding,
there's
sort
of
accounting
and
cash
flow
reasons
why
the
reliance
on
one
time
funding
is
why
that's
been
used
in
the
past,
but
we
know
from
running
stable
home,
stable
schools
from
a
lot
of
our
other
housing
programs
that
it's
really
hard
to
plan
for
next
year
and
projects
down
the
pipeline.
S
If
you
don't
have
a
good
sense
about
consistency
of
funding-
and
I
know
that's
something-
a
lot
of
the
housing
advocates
have
been
asking
us
for
for
a
long
time
is
make
this
funding
ongoing,
and
so
we
really
not
just
in
housing
but
in
general,
across
the
enterprise,
tried
to
take
a
really
hard
look
at.
If
things
are
working
and
they
are
not
in
fact,
pilot
programs
anymore,
we
should
commit
to
making
them
ongoing,
and
so
a
lot
of
the
changes
you'll
see
throughout
the
budget
that
are
additions
in
this
difficult
year.
S
Are
with
that
in
mind
that
this
is
important
work
that
the
city
was
engaging
in
and
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
there
was
consistency
over
time.
So
that's
just
sort
of
like
a
big
picture,
structural
change
that
you'll
see
throughout
the
budget,
and
I
did
put
in
the
chat
they.
S
We
have
a
a
budget,
basics
and
summary
document
that
I
don't
have
at
my
fingertips
right
now,
but
I
will
can
get
to
katie
to
circulate
to
the
group
that
has
some
more
details
on
the
rest
of
the
budget
beyond
the
great
presentation
that
roasted
on
the
housing
pieces.
Just
so
you
can
get
kind
of
a
sense
about
where
the
other
departments
and
cuts
and
spending
sort
of
have
have
landed
in
the
mayor's
proposal.
M
H
Well,
I
was
just
one
yeah,
because
we
have
we've
had
several
meetings,
and
I
know
that
the
budget
I
know
we're
in
a
real
challenging
time,
as
it
relates
with
budgets
and
cuts
and
things
that
are
being
lost
because
of
covet
19.
H
H
Our
existing
funding
base
funding
ideals
that
are
there
in
minneapolis
homes
just
did
a
total
revamp
in
the
way,
that's
being
structured
in
its
rfp
for
some
of
the
city
lots,
but
we,
as
a
committee,
haven't
really
presented
any
affordable
housing
ideals
on
in
this
area
or
anything
about
addressing
disparity
gaps
as
it
relates
to
housing
as
well.
We've
done
a
lot
of
discussion
around
renault
homelessness
and
tenant
issues,
but
we
really
haven't
tackled
this
as
a
a
very
important.
H
These
are
important
housing
items
that
I'd
like
to
see
us
in
you
know
even
moving
into
next
year.
It
is
on
our
proposed
agenda
for
items
we
were
going
to
address
in
2020,
but
I
don't
recall
us
really
presenting
or
having
discussions
around
it.
O
This
is
mary
and
I'd
like
to
to
say
also
that
we
have
had
no
discussion
of
affordable
home
ownership
and
changing
the
disproportionate
numbers
of
homeownership
among
minorities
and
and
whites
in
our
community,
and
it's
been
a
really
big
source
of
frustration.
For
me,.
O
You
know
we
haven't
discussed,
affordable
home
ownership
at
all.
N
I
just
wanted
to
provide
comments
about
the
budget
regarding
the
noaa
preservation.
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
support
that.
That's
been
an
ongoing
investment.
That's
outline
in
the
budget.
I
think
anything
that
we
can
do
to
maintain
our
naturally
occurring.
Affordable
housing
is
great.
C
D
This
is
clean,
o'connor,
tolerant
again
the
the
cuts
to
regulatory
services
and
sort
of
you
know,
enforcement,
especially
kind
of
tenant,
initiated
enforcement
of
ability
issues
is
concerning,
but
again
it's
a
little
bit
harder.
I
think
to
be
more
detailed
on
a
recommendation
without
kind
of
you
know,
without
knowing
the
rest
of
the
budget,
knowing
that
is,
it
is
a
difficult
year
and
you
know
all
sorts
of
important
services
are
going
to
feel
some
pain
this
year,
potentially.
I
So
so
joey
do
you
care
if
I
jump
in
and
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
reorg
and
how
that
might
help?
I
This
year's
budget
and
part
of
a
way
to
mitigate
some
of
the
cost
savings
and
improve
efficiencies
is
we
are
now
merging
those
two
divisions,
so
we
will
now,
as
assuming
the
council,
passes
the
budget
and
and
approves
sort
of
our
layout,
we'll
be
having
the
housing
inspections
and
fire
inspections
under
one
division.
The
working
title
is
called
inspections
division
and
by
doing
that,
we
really
sort
of.
We
really
are
able
to
be
more
agile
in
how
we
deliver
staff
resources
towards
higher
priority
rental
property
or
rental
situations.
I
It
allows
us
to
be
more
sort
of
cohesive
and
aligned
with
our
renter
first
initiatives
and
policies,
and
I
think
it
will
also
help
us
meet
the
needs
more
of
our
customers
in
rental
housing,
with
sort
of
the
expanded
and
merged
division,
and
that-
and
so
we
we
are
really
conscientious
of
that,
and-
and
I
know
it
was
a
hefty
cut
to
rig
services
but
we're
you
know.
I
Renters
are
super
important
part
of
our
customers
and
our
on
our
in
our
constitu
in
our
stakeholder
group,
and
so
we
will
continue
to
do
our
best
to
provide
that
high
service.
I
And,
yes,
there
may
be
some
delays
because
we
have
fewer
staff
overall,
but
we're
going
to
have
a
more
agile
staff
and
a
more
a
staff
that
can
get
to
to
more
buildings.
I
I
think
more
quickly
with
this
sort
of
blended
staff
and
then
we're
also
working
on
some
really
great
work
in
virtual
doing
a
virtual
rental
licensing
inspections
and
putting
together
protocol
for
you
know
when
we
need
to
get
inside
and
the
virtual
inspections
are
as
we've
got
them
set
up,
are
really
engaging
the
renters
in
a
way
that
we
haven't
before
in
terms
of
having
them
be
the
driver
in
the
driver's
seat
on
doing
the
virtual
inspections.
I
I
know
this
is
a
lot
in
just
a
short
order,
also
using
checklists
ahead
of
time
that
renters
can
have
so
they
know
what
they
should
and
shouldn't
be
seeing
in
their
apartment
unit,
so
yeah.
So
those
two
pieces
are
also
part
of
this
whole
budget
shift
and
not
that
there
won't
be
pain
points
and
that
we,
you
know,
because
we
are
seeing
a
reduction
in
sort
of
staff
overall,
because
we're
holding
vacancies.
J
B
Just
following
up
on
that,
colleen
then,
is
there
any
kind
of
with
that
information?
Is
there
anything
that
you
would
want
to?
You
know
propose,
including
in
a
comment
on
the
budget
with
regard
to
rec
services
and
inspections,.
D
Maybe
not
specific,
knowing
that
there's
these
other
changes
that
you
know
might,
I
don't
know,
might
just
yield
a
different
and
improve
tenant
experience
anyway.
So
it's
hard
for
me
to
say
unless
someone
else
has
a
suggestion.
I.
I
Mean
I
don't
think
it's
bad
to
say
that
you
want
to
make
sure
that
the
regulatory
services
cuts
don't
impact
the
renter
experience.
You
know
I
mean
I'm
not.
I
think
that's
and-
and
I
want
you
to
hear
that
we
hear
that
you
know
and
that's
a
really
that's
a
priority
for
us
as
a
as
a
as
a
division
as
a
department
of
rig
services.
So
I
think
it
never
hurts
to
have
it
reinforced
for
sure.
C
Kelly,
sorry,
I
might
I've
got
kids
that
are
just
back
in
and
the
other
room
and
making
a
lot
of
noise.
So
I
keep
muting
myself
and
then
I
have
to
find
my
own
new
to
get
back
on.
So
sorry,
apologies
for
the
delay
all
right,
any
other
feedback
for
the
city
that
you
think
would
be
important
to
include
in
the
annual
report
separate
from
budget.
K
I
do
I'm
sorry,
this
is
karina
kevin.
M
K
You
yes
kelly!
Thank
you
for
that.
I
was
looking
at
this
budget
and
kind
of
worried
about
that
regulatory
problem,
because
you
know
I
have
a
lot
of
issues
with
our
building,
so
I
think
that
keeping
that
money
there
is
important
for
those
problematic
buildings
that
have
issues
with
with
mode
and
all
of
that
stuff.
I
was
gonna
call
today
with
with
a
hud
conference
call
today
and
it
sounds
like
hud
is
looking
to
have
tenants.
Start
tagging
along
with
they
react.
K
Inspections
is
not
a
definite
thing,
but
those
inspections
are
important
so
and
the
work
for
the
regulators
having
that
money,
making
sure
that
families
are
you
know,
living
in
healthy,
safe
homes
is
important.
So
I
would
like
to
see
you
know
the
regulatory
services
get
more
funding
so
that
they
can
continue
that
good
work
and
making
sure
our
houses
are
healthy
and
all
that
good
stuff.
M
C
All
right
so
joey
is
capturing
all
these
comments
and
we
are
almost
at
time
so
I'll
just
give
kind
of
one
more
chance
to
for
anyone
who
wants
to
raise
an
issue
or
comment
or
feedback
to
and
that
we
to
ensure
that
we
get
that
into
the
annual
report.
Anything
that's
separate
from
the
budget.
M
L
So
when
we
did
our
planning
process-
and
I
think
it
was
at
the
start
of
this
year-
because
it
seems
like
it's
hard
to
remember
anything
else
by
2020-
but
the
we
did
have
as
a
priority
the
discussion
about
sros-
and
that
is
a
an
option
for
the
council
to
examine
and
look
at,
and
I
think
we
should
just
find
a
way
of
commenting
that
that
we're
pleased
that
there's
been
some
response
from
council
on
that.
L
And
that
was
an
an
interest,
though
a
priority
interest
of
this
group
at
the
start
of
the
year
and
we're
encouraged
by
the
reports
that
are
coming
forth
of
serious
policy
discussions.
C
A
This
is
katie,
I
wonder
if
similarly,
we
might
want
to
highlight
what
david
and
mary
were
raising
about,
that.
The
fact
that
this
committee
did
identify
the
you
know:
racial
disparities
in
homeownership
and
and
the
need
for
more
affordable
home
ownership
options,
and
maybe
it's
just
I'm
not
sure
what
the
way
to
phrase
it
because
you're
right.
We
haven't
spent
much
time
on
that
as
a
committee
this
year.
A
But
maybe
it's
just
just
saying
that
it
is
a
priority
for
the
committee
anyway,
I'd
be
open
or
whatever
suggestions
others
may
have,
but
just
wanting
to
to
make
sure
that
we're
naming
that,
like.
C
An
area
of
work
that
we
haven't
spent
a
lot
of
time
on,
but
we
really
would
see
that
as
but
it
was
listed
as
a
priority
and
something
we
want
to
continue
focusing
on
yet
this
year
and
into
2021.
A
Yeah-
and
I
will
just
say
you
know-
I
think
david
mentioned
the
the
changes
to
minneapolis
homes-
that
I
think
that
was
probably
maybe
a
bit
of
a
missed
opportunity
for
us
to
spend
more
time
on
that.
You
know,
I
think
roxanne
kimball
was
did
a
brief
presentation
on
some
of
the
ideas
late
last
year
and
then
that
work
was
you
know,
adopted
by
the
council
this
summer,
and
so
you
know,
I
think
it's
partly
partly
you
know
we
didn't
quite
get
time
out,
make
time
for
it
on
the
agenda.
A
A
And
so,
although
it's
already
been
adopted
by
council
it,
it
may
be
something
for
us
to
consider
in
one
of
our
upcoming
meetings,
just
at
least
hearing
about
about
what
the
changes
are
and
what
the
hope
is
for
the
outcomes
so
that
the
committee
is
aware
of
that
and
then
maybe
it's
more
of
a
like
the
work
for
the
committee,
but
could
be
tracking
whether
what
we're
hoping
to
have
happen
with
those
program
changes
actually
happens.
B
Thanks
katie
yeah,
this
is
joey.
Just
briefly,
I
think
in
one
of
our
leadership
kind
of
planning
discussions
we
did
looking
back
at
my
notes-
have
a
sort
of
a
plan
in
november
to
talk
about
homeownership,
specifically
stabilizing
current
homeowners,
but
I
think
you
know
it's
sounding
like
a
good
time
to
dedicate
some
time
to
that,
maybe
at
an
our
november
meeting.
B
So
if
anyone
has
specific
angles,
they
want
to
address,
let
us
know
otherwise.
Maybe
we
staff
and
coaches
and
leadership
will
talk
about.
You
know
what
might
make
sense
for
our
november
meeting.
A
And
then
I
guess
I'd
also
just
suggest
in
terms
of
the
budget,
so
if
you
know
obviously
rose
showed
the
schedule,
so
I
guess
both
the
budget
and
then
for
the
annual
report.
A
I
think
the
thought
today
was
to
kind
of
gather
the
feedback
and
start
to
form
it
into
something
that
then
the
committee
could
potentially
approve
as
a
next
step
in
november.
Is
that
right,
colleen
and
joey
I'm
just
trying
to
make
sure
we're
not
needing
to
kind
of
like
vote
on
something
today?
I
think
the
idea
was
to
brainstorm
and
come
back
in
november
to
yeah.
M
C
B
Think
so,
yeah
thanks
everybody
for
your
comments.
I
think
between
now
and
the
november
meeting,
maybe
you
know
with
rose
your
help.
We
can
put
together
some
drafts,
some
proposed
comments
for
the
budget
and
then
maybe
a
revised
report
to
the
committee
that
we
can
spend
a
little
time
looking
at
our
november
meeting
and
and
formally
adopt.
So
if
there
anything
that
has
come
to
mind
that
comes
to
mind
between
like
in
the
next
few
weeks,
please
email
us
or
reach
out.
B
If
you
take
a
look
back
at
rose's
presentation,
I
thought
her
questions
were
helpful.
If
it's
either
things
we
want
to
support
or
things
that
we're
disappointed
in
or
even
questions
that
we
have
or
things
we
want
to
be,
on
the
council's
mind,
send
those
to
one
or
all
of
us
in
the
coming
weeks
and
we'll
get
something
together
for
the
november
meeting
to
consider
adopting
as
a
committee.
A
And
I'll
send
out
the
budget
piece
that
andre
andrea
was
talking
about
that,
hopefully
will
help
for
the
questions
colleen
raised
about
the
bigger
context,
so
that
might
also
help
just
form
your
thinking
for
november
as
well.
So
we'll
make
sure
that
gets
out
too.