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From YouTube: March 9, 2020 City Planning Commission
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Minneapolis City Planning Commission Meeting
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A
A
Take
that
as
a
motion
to
approve
that
consent
agenda
do
I,
have
a
second
a
motion
and
a
second
all
in
favor,
say
aye.
That
motion
carries
next
up.
We
will
organize
the
agenda
for
this
Planning
Commission
meeting
I
will
walk
through
the
agenda
if
anyone
in
the
audience
wishes
to
comment
against
staff
recommendation
or
to
alter
staff
recommendation
on
an
item.
Please
make
your
presence
known
we'll
put
that
item
on
on
our
discussion
agenda.
Otherwise
we
will
place
items
on
the
consent
agenda.
A
Our
first
item
is
item
number
five:
wait:
Park
Elementary,
School,
1830,
4th
Avenue,
Northeast
and
Ward
1.
Anyone
here
to
speak
on
a
week,
wait
Park,
Elementary
school,
see,
none
will
place.
Item
number
five
consent
item
number:
six
is
twenty
two
nineteen
Bryant
Avenue
South
Moore
ten
and
we
will
discuss
item
number
six
item
number
seven
is
29
42
Oakland
Avenue
in
Ward,
six,
several
applications
their
conditional
use
permit
in
the
variances.
Anyone
here
to
speak
on
29
42,
Oakland,
Avenue
and
Ward
6c.
No
one
will
place
that
on
consent.
A
A
Item
number
nine
is
2801
Hennepin
Avenue
East
in
Ward
one,
a
rezoning
conditional
use
department
for
major
automobile
repair.
Is
anyone
here
to
speak.
On
item
number.
Nine
place.
Item
number
nine
on
consent.
Item
number
ten
is
616
at
12th,
Avenue
South
East
in
Ward
3
application
for
increase
in
height.
Is
anyone
here
to
speak
on
item
number
ten,
so
you
know
one
place,
I,
don't
know.
Ten
on
consent
and
item
number
11
is
1202.
A
Seventh
Street
southeast
Ward
3,
as
anyone
here
speak
on
that
item
place,
item
number
11
on
consent
and
that
and
yes-
and
that
concludes
our
agenda-
so
commissioners
are
amended
agenda
is
to
discuss
item
number
six
in
place.
Items
number
five,
seven,
eight,
nine,
ten
and
eleven
on
the
consent
agenda
could
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
as
amended
a
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
the
agenda
as
amended
all
in
favor,
say
aye.
That
motion
carries
next.
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
on
the
consent
agenda.
A
Is
anyone
here
wishing
to
speak
on
the
consent
agenda?
So
you
know
and
I'll
close
public
hearing
of
consent
agenda
commissioners
could
have
a
motion
to
approve
consent
agenda
with
staff
recommendations
on
all
items
of
a
motion
and
a
second
all
in
favor,
say
aye.
The
motion
carries
moving
on
to
our
discussion
items
discussion
item
number:
six
staff
is
Shana.
C
Good
afternoon
planning
commissioners
I'm
Shanna
souther
I'm
the
planner
assigned
to
the
project
that
is
number
six
on
today's
agenda.
The
address
is
2219
Bryant,
Avenue
South,
the
existing
property
is
a
is
a
triplex
locate
at
the
front
of
property.
There
are
no
proposed
changes
to
the
triplex
as
part
of
the
requested
at
land
use
applications.
Today
the
applicant
has
applied
for
a
cluster
development
in
order
to
allow
for
a
new
single-family
dwelling
to
be
built
at
the
rear
of
the
lot.
C
The
picture
here
at
the
at
the
bottom
of
your
screens
is
the
proposed
site
plan.
The
applicant
is
seeking
a
conditional
use
permit
to
allow
for
the
cluster
development,
so
a
cluster
development
is
not
permitted
as
right.
It
requires
a
conditional
use
permit.
An
evaluation
of
the
proposed
use,
a
variance
to
reduce
the
minimum
lot
area
requirement.
So,
in
order
to
allow
for
four
units
on
the
site,
you
would
have
to
meet
a
minimum
1,500
square
feet
of
lot
area
per
dwelling,
not
the
dwelling
itself,
but
just
density
calculation.
C
C
The
proposed
setback
for
the
structure
is
5
feet
where
7
feet
is
required
for
a
new
structure
and
the
eave
also
projects
too
close
to
the
property
line
in
Eve
in
the
front,
the
corner
is
allowed
to
project
three
feet
from
the
structure,
but
on
the
side
only
two
feet,
so
that
Eve
is
also
included.
That
setback
a
similar
condition
on
the
rear
yard.
It's
a
seven
foot
required
yard
the
applicants
proposing
a
little
over
five
feet.
The
Eve
is
okay
on
that
side
and
then
on
the
south
interior
side
yard
setback.
There
are
different.
C
C
Generally
speaking,
when
we
look
at
a
new
structure
or
additions
to
an
existing
structure
when
we're
looking
at
entrances,
if
you
have
both
a
front
yard
or
a
front
front
door
and
a
back
door,
you
can
have
a
side
door
and
not
have
to
come
pop
comply
with
that
minimum
15
foot,
side,
yard
setback.
But
in
this
case,
as
we
discuss
with
the
applicant
today,
the
principal
entrance
really
is
these
double
doors
and
it
faces
the
back
yard.
What
we
refer
to
as
the
west
entrance
and
then
the
south
entrance
is
really
ancillary.
C
It
opens
into
a
storage
area,
but
because
they
only
have
a
front
and
a
side.
The
setback
increases
for
the
structure
from
7
feet
to
22
feet
or
15
feet,
so
that
is
those
are
the
required
variances
that
have
been
applied
for
you'll.
Note
too,
that
originally
variance
for
lock
coverage
was
also
identified.
The
applicant
amended
plans
to
comply
with
that
requirement,
so
that
is
no
longer
part
of
the
application
and
has
been
withdrawn.
C
Staff
is
recommending
approval
of
the
conditional
use
permit
to
allow
for
the
cluster
development
and
the
variance
to
reduce
the
minimum
lot
area
with
stated
conditions
on
pages
8,
&
9,
so
I'm
going
to
just
focus
on
the
the
variances.
If
that's
all
right
with
the
Planning
Commission,
when
evaluating
a
new
structure,
we
really
have
to
determine
whether
or
not
there's
practical
difficulty
in
complying
with
the
ordinance
that
was
the
that
was
the
difficulty
on
this
particular
application.
So
on
first,
finding
staff
was
not
able
to
find
anything
unique
to
the
parcel.
C
That
warrant
did
the
exception
to
reduce
the
setbacks
on
the
north,
south
and
rear
yards.
However,
staff
was
able
to
make
findings
2
&
3
for
those
same
3
setback
variances.
So
that's
really
kind
of
the
sticking
point
I
would
say
on
this
particular
application.
We
certainly
find
that
the
Passivhaus
design
is
consistent
with
the
spirit
intent
of
the
comprehensive
plan
for
climate
change
goals,
and
we
feel
that
the
location
of
the
proposed
structure
will
not
be
injuries
to
use
of
an
or
enjoyment
of
other
property
in
the
vicinity.
C
It's
next
to
two
different
detached
garages
on
adjacent
properties
and
then
a
surface
parking
lot
to
the
east
for
the
apartment
buildings
adjacent
to
the
property.
So
the
only
point
of
contention
really
is
whether
or
not
practical
difficulty
could
be
met.
So
with
that
I'd
be
happy
to
take
any
questions.
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
one
other
point:
we
received
a
large
number
of
letters
of
support.
Today
those
were
included
in
your
packet.
Unfortunately,
one
came
in
after
I
was
able
to
print
everything
off
so
I
just
wanted
to.
C
C
C
I'm,
just
can
I
zoom
in
so
the
pedestrian
path
would
connect
from
bright
have
a
new
south,
as
you
see,
via
this
pervious,
paving
a
walkway,
and
then
it
lands
here
at
this
concrete
stooop
and
that
concretes
to
maximum
is
16
square
feet
where
it's
proposed
I
believe
I'm
wondering
that
the
plan
is
out
of
date.
Let
me
take
another
look
back
at
the
staff
report.
I
believe
it
was
36
square
feet
in
the
amended
plan,
so
it's
it's
over
by
20
square
feet.
C
A
C
The
applicant
amended
the
size
of
the
concrete's,
but
it
still
requires
a
variance.
There
are
no
changes.
The
staff
recommendation
just
because
again
staff
was
not
able
to
find
anything
unique
to
this
property
that
would
warrant
an
exception
to
the
zoning
ordinance,
there's
nothing
related
to
the
topography
or
or
access
to
the
property.
So
we,
when
you
can't
make
all
three
findings.
We
have
to
recommend
denial.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
G
I'm
gonna
speak
to
the
technical
and
architectural
pieces
of
the
project
and
then
the
client,
so
here
and
there
the
owners
are
really
excited
as
well
to
share
with
you
the
some
key
features
and
elements
of
why
this
project
will
hopefully
be
approved
a
couple
of
things
about
expounding
upon
what
Jan
has
already
mentioned.
This
is
a
passive
house
project
and
passive
houses.
G
There
are
five
key
components
that
make
a
building
a
passive
house:
passive
houses,
if
you're
not
familiar
of
energy
avoidance
strategy,
it's
a
tool
that
we
use
as
designers
when
we're
trying
to
do
low
carbon
low
energy
buildings
and
the
five
components
are
continuous,
exterior
insulation,
airtight
construction,
thermal
bridge,
free
design,
triple
pane
windows
that
are
really
high
quality
and
continuous,
balanced
heat
recovery
ventilation.
This
is
a
project.
That's
this
is
a
strategy
of
construction
and
design.
G
That's
far
outside
of
and
far
exceeds
kind
of
what
our
typical
building
climate
would
see,
and
we
are
one
of
the
the
key
features
and
why
I
bring
all
of
those
points
up
is
that,
in
order
for
us
to
achieve
a
passive
house
assembly,
a
wall
assembly
is
much
much
thicker
than
a
typical
wall.
If
I
were
to
revise
this
design
and
shrink
the
walls
back
to
what
would
be
approved
for
code
built
construction,
we
would
comply
with
the
setbacks
without
reducing
interior
floor
area.
So
keep
that
in
mind.
G
If
we're
advocate
for
advocating
for
highly
energy-efficient
sustainable
buildings,
the
walls
are
going
to
get
thicker
which
reduces
our
our
livable
square
footage
interior.
So
that's
kind
of
the
first
piece
that
I
wanted
to
mention.
Another
element
is
that
the
excuse
me
the
the
home
is
sited
and
the
the
real
reason
for
the
setback
variances
with
this
particular
project
is
the
home
is
cited
for
optimal
solar
exposure
and
solar
gain.
This
is
hopefully
gonna
have
the
largest
residential
solar
array
of
any
project
in
the
city.
G
So
we
hope
you'll
find
that
this
project,
given
the
merits
that
it
has
the
thicker
walls
that
are
needed
for
highly
efficient
sustainable
construction
and
the
optimized
roof
design
and
location
on
the
lab
for
for
solar
exposure
and
solar
gain
will
be
worth
approving.
The
recommend
or
the
approving
against
the
staff
recommended
denial
for
variances
from
the
setbacks.
I
can
also
speak
to
any
other
questions
that
you
have
architectual
you're
technically,
but
I
didn't
want
to.
You
know,
go
to
fire
and
depths
without
getting
into
the
weeds.
So
any
questions
for
me,
commissioners,.
B
So
I
just
wanted
to
touch
back
on
a
couple
of
points
you
raised.
I.
Think
they're
interesting.
So
in
terms
of
the
achieving
added
sustainability
with
this
building
due
to
wall
thickness,
I
think
I
know
I've
encountered
this
in
practice.
So
my
question,
though,
is
have
you:
have
you
mentioned
that
it
heads
you
down
a
typical?
You
know,
wall
construction
that
we
would
see.
You
know
I'd
done
anywhere
in
the
city.
Do
you
have
the
distance
between
like,
like
I
know
you
sort
of
would
comply
but
but
like?
G
My
walls
right
now
are
22
inches
thick,
which
is
substantially
larger
than
a
typical
wall,
and
so
a
typical
r21
wall
is
going
to
be
anywhere
between
6
and
9
inches
thick,
so
I
can
move
the
house
it
it
would.
It
would
be
a
combination
of
designing
back
to
a
code
built
wall
and
moving
the
house
just
a
little
bit
on
the
lot
in
order
to
a
comply,
but
it
would
be
achievable
with
the
south
setback
variances
the
15-foot
one
is
a
little
bit
in
question.
G
That
was
actually
something
that
we
were
surprised
by,
what
the
staff
findings
report,
but
because
originally
we
weren't
we're
not
intending
to
need
a
variance
on
that
side.
That
door
is
actually
an
auxilary
entrance.
It's
not
a
primary
entrance,
so
we
that's
sort
of
a
surprise,
but
we
so
that
makes
it
difficult
for
any
project
anyway.
G
I
designed
it
to
fit
on
this
lot,
which
is
another
reason
why
that
recommendation
for
denial
is
difficult
on
that
side
in
particular,
especially
if
we
have
to
meet
15
feet,
setbacks
from
what
is
designated
as
a
primary
entry
that
make.
That
gives
me
a
very
small
buildable
area,
so
the,
but
if
that
were
back
to
a
normal
setback
of
7
feet,
even
I
could
make
that
work
fairly
easily,
with
with
very
few
modifications
to
the
design
or
architectural.
A
speaking.
The
floor
plan
is
not
oversized.
G
It's
a
fairly
compact
home
and
the
rooms
are
while
they're,
not
overly
generous,
they're,
pretty
efficient
in
terms
of
how
they
layout
the
other
piece
that
Katie
and
Peter
will
mention
or
get
get
further
into
than
I'm
going
to,
but
just
to
help
frame
that
conversation.
This
is
a
project
on
the
bryant
avenue
bike
way
and
the
project
is
owned
by
two
full-time
bike:
commuters,
who
biked
all
year
round
and
have
that
as
their
primary
and
only
form
of
transportation.
G
So
the
floor
plan
is
designed
to
optimize
and
make
that
lifestyle
possible,
which
is
doubly
appropriate
because
it's
on
the
bike
path,
but
it's
also
something
we
should,
in
my
opinion,
be
encouraging
from
a
sustainability
perspective
for
all
residences,
just
making
that
easier
and
one
of
the
things
that
makes
that
doable
on
this
project
is
that
side-door
goes
into
a
bike
room
earth.
Well,
it's
a
storage
room,
but
it's
sized
appropriately
to
bring
bikes
in
and
out
and
leave
them
there
to
make
bike
commuting
easy
and
an
option,
a
valuable
option.
G
Or
it's
a
matter
of
the
dimensions
of
the
panel
and
optimizing
and
getting
as
many
on
the
roof
as
we
can,
but
also
there's
another
key
component
to
the
project
that
Katie
and
bl
get
into
where
this
is
actually
going
to
be.
A
straw
bale
build,
which
is
a
type
of
construction
that
actually
has
a
tremendous
amount
of
carbon
storage
potential
and
straw.
Bale
builds,
are
extremely
resilient.
Buildings
are
examples
of
them
all
over
the
country
that
have
been
around
for
a
long
time,
but
one
of
the
key
features
there
is
you
do
want
to.
B
H
Well,
I'll
try
this
hi,
commissioner
Rockwell
and
other
commissioners.
My
name
is
Katie
Jones
and
I
live
at
2219,
Bryant,
Avenue
South,
the
location
of
the
proposed
project
I'm
here
to
talk
about
the
origin
and
the
rationale
behind
this
project.
I'd
actually
like
to
start
or
to
start
I'd
like
to
touch
on
a
great
asset
that
we
have
in
Minnesota.
H
Which
is
the
first
certified
passive
house
in
North,
America
called
the
Bo
house.
This
is
located
in
Bemidji
Minnesota
at
the
site
of
the
German
language
immersion
summer,
camp
called
vald,
say
it's
actually
where
Peter
and
I
met,
and
this
building
taught
me
a
lot
about
the
feasibility
of
sustainable
building
and
the
value
of
a
demonstration
project,
especially
when
they're
interactive
as
a
16
year
old
I'm.
Actually,
in
that
picture,
I
got
to
plant
some
of
the
plants,
some
of
the
seed
um's
on
that
building
and
that
type
of
work
has
really
stuck
with
me.
H
Later.
I
became
a
contractor
actually
for
the
city
of
Minneapolis
sustainability
office
and
in
that
role,
I
calculated
the
the
2015
greenhouse
gas
emissions
for
the
city
and
I've
coordinated
the
the
city's
first
Clean
Energy
Partnership
report
I
saw
firsthand
the
steep
climb
that
we
have
in
order
to
reach
our
climate
action
plan
goals.
The
majority
of
emissions
from
Minneapolis
stemmed
from
the
energy
use
in
buildings,
and
so
improving
energy
efficiency
and
electrifying
buildings
to
use
renewable
energy
is
important
and
needs
to
accelerate
and
so
I
personally
really
take
that
to
heart.
H
H
H
H
And
lastly,
they
said
this
is
the
white
house
of
the
neighborhood.
It's
a
really
gorgeous
house
at
22,
447
Bryant.
Sorry,
the
pictures
a
little
dark,
but
they
have
absolutely
massive
carriage
house
at
the
back
and
is
also
actually
actually
overhanging.
The
lot
line
in
the
Hennepin
County
records
of
their
pictures.
H
So
moving
back
onto
our
project,
we
brought
on
an
awesome
all
female
architect,
team,
precipitate
architecture
to
design
our
house
at
the
in
back
in
2018,
and
we
were
moving
along
to
get
quotes
from
contractors.
But
after
hearing
about
sit
panels
and
foam,
I
was
not
excited
about
the
building.
Foam
is
very
fossil.
Fuel
intensive
and
I
didn't
feel
good
about
moving
in
that
direction.
So
we
took
a
pause
so
I
could
research
a
bunch
of
different
alternatives.
H
This
is
actually
the
first
straw
bale
building
in
the
United
States
that
was
built
in
Nebraska.
Actually,
straw
bale
building
was
first
done
in
the
United
States,
because
one
Nebraska
has
very
few
trees
and
the
the
baling
machine
was
was
recently
invented
in
the
in
the
20s,
and
so
they
just
stacked
bales
on
top
of
one
another
and
then
covered
that
in
plaster,
and
so
this
is
a
1928
building
that
is
still
stay
and
is
successfully.
H
H
So
here
are
some
examples
of
some
cold
climate.
A
straw
bale
build
so
there's
one
in
North,
Branch
there's
a
one
in
Maine
I
saw
I
have
an
example
from
one
in
Maine
and
one
from
Ontario
I,
also
so
fun
fact:
straw,
bale
buildings,
they're
great
for
the
winter,
but
they're
also
very
fire
resistant.
So
there
were
actually
four
buildings
in
California
that
survived
the
wildfires
because
of
their
strong
thermal
resistance
to
temperature
change.
So
those
were
the
four
buildings
that
were
left
standing
from
the
fires
and
the
everything
else.
H
So
this
was
look
liking.
A
very
promising
wall
assembly
and
I
wanted
to
see
the
process
for
myself.
Last
September
I
went
to
a
build
workshop
in
Washington,
where,
at
this
workshop
we
a
team
of
30
volunteers,
took
a
week
to
build
homeowner,
Cathy
straw,
bale
walls.
I
was
convinced
that
one
is
a
viable
wall
assembly,
two
to
choose
my
goals
of
energy
efficiency,
using
a
waste
material
and
because
it
is
compostable
at
the
end
of
its
life
and
three
it
can
be
a
fun
and
valuable
community
building
aspect
of
construction.
H
So
we
would
like
to
build
a
modest
home
this
summer
at
approximately
1,400
square.
Feet
is
much
smaller
than
the
US
average
of
2,400
square
feet
and
the
two
bedroom
one
and
a
half
bath
will
accommodate
a
feature
family
of
two
children.
I
would
like
to
also
draw
attention
to
the
paragraph
in
the
letter
provided
by
our
Strava
expert
that
should
be
in
your
packet,
Andrew
Morrison.
He
says
the
challenge
of
straw,
bale
walls
as
their
thickness
and
thus
the
application
for
variance.
H
Although
the
walls
provide
the
attributes,
many
good
attributes,
as
well
as
the
superior
soundproofing
in
other
qualities,
they
are
thick
on
average
21
inches
from
face
to
face.
This
extra
thickness
is
too
much
to
add
to
an
interior
floor
space
as
it
detracts
from
functionality.
It
is
common
to
push
the
wall
surfaces
out,
thus
maintaining
the
interior
square
footage
of
the
home
design,
the
request
for
a
site
yard
setback,
variance
is
made
in
order
to
preserve
the
quality
of
straw.
Bale
wall
features
well-maintained
an
adequate
interior
floor
plan.
H
I
would
suggest
that,
since
the
city
is
interested
in
green
construction
techniques,
they
may
need
to
consider
a
few
variance
requests
to
accommodate
such
builds
being
that
existing
structures
in
the
neighborhood
already
located
within
the
setback
boundaries
issuing
issuing
a
variance
in
exchange
for
high
efficiency,
while
construction
seems
reasonable.
So
I
believe
we
have
a
practical
need
for
a
side
yard
setback.
H
So
we've
had
to
apply
for
a
cluster
development
because
of
our
triplex.
We
cannot
apply
for
an
Adu
and
AD.
You
would
only
have
setbacks
of
three
feet
and
even
a
single
family
home
has
a
setbacks
of
five
feet.
So
I
think
this.
This
property,
you
know,
fits
more
of
the
spirit
of
one
of
those
one
of
those
structures
and
it
would
be
reasonable
to
have
a
variance
one
other
thing.
H
I
wanted
to
touch
on
that
I'm
really
excited
about
is
that
with
the
straw
bale
raising
component
we're
going
to
have
a
barn,
raising
and
I'm
a
really
big
on
community
building.
I've
been
part
of
my
neighbors
association
for
years,
and
so
like
the
workshop
I
attended
and
will
invite
community
members
to
be
a
part
of
this
demonstration
project,
like
with
the
Bo
house,
I
want
others
to
feel
see
and
interact
with
the
unique
sustainability
example
and
be
inspired.
So
in
conclusion,
we
are
nothing
if
not
intentional.
H
We
are
no
way
perfect,
but
we
do
our
best
to
take
a
community
building,
a
woman
in
minority
owned
local
business
supporting
and
sustainability
lens
too
much
of
what
we
do.
We
feel
this
project
is
an
excellent
demonstration
of
those
values
which
align
very
closely
to
the
Minneapolis
2040
plan,
and
we
ask
for
your
support
on
this
project
and
the
requested
variances.
Thank
you.
B
Hi
sorry
I,
just
I
was
looking
through
your
drawings
and
I.
Just
had
some
questions
and
I
know
they're
not
given
that
it's
a
bulk
of
your
argument
is,
is
that
practical
difficulties
exist
in
meeting
the
sustainability
goals
of
the
city.
So
my
question,
though,
is
in
regard
to
more
festive
heating
and
cooling
in
terms
of
window
openings
I
can't
tell
theirs
just
cuz
we're
looking
at
a
small
teeny-tiny
set,
or
it
looks
like
most,
but
not
most.
It
looks
like
a
lot
of
the
windows.
G
We
run
an
energy
model
to
optimize
the
the
building
shape
in
this
case.
That
was
not
very
difficult
cuz.
We
knew
we
were
going
with
a
box,
but
as
well
as
window
openings,
size
of
windows
and
we're
operable
window
windows
goes
so
there
will
be
cross
ventilation
and
adequate
cross
ventilation
and
more
than
that,
throughout
the
entire
building.
In
order
in
terms
of
cost
containment,
where
we
don't
need
operable
and
where
the
owner
doesn't
want
them,
we
won't
put
them.
G
B
Then
I
since
you're,
both
up
here,
though,
when
you
talked
about
IDI
use,
so
it's
some
looking
at
this
through.
You
know
kind
of
the
dual
and
you're
kind
of
saying:
well
hey!
If
this
was
an
ad
you,
you
know
these
are
the
things
we'd
have
to
follow,
but
I'm
also
wondering
if
this
were
an
ad
you
we'd
have
to
have
more
windows
on
the
east
side
of
the
house,
especially
on
the
first
floor.
B
G
Reason
that
the
plan
doesn't
show
windows
a
lot
of
windows
on
the
east
side
right
now
is
because
that
overlooks
an
asphalt
parking
lot.
If
it
were
required
that
we
put
them
there,
we
certainly
could
again
going
back
to
cost
containment.
We
don't
put
windows
where
we
don't
need
them,
it's
the
most
expensive
part
of
the
wall,
so
if
that
were,
if
you
were
going
to,
for
example,
if
you
said
we
will
give
you
the
opportunity
to
use
a
tu
three-foot
setbacks
on
this
property
like
you
would
have
been
able
to
do.
G
If
your
building
was
a
duplex
instead
of
a
triplex,
we
would
say
great.
We
will
put
a
window
in
for
you,
the
you
know
we're
as
architects.
We
want
appreciate
and
love
natural
light.
We
will
obviously
default
to
doing
what
complies
with
the
ordinance
and
keeps
the
occupant
happy
and
healthy
and
doesn't
hopefully
you
know,
give
them
a
nasty
dirty
view.
There
will
be
a
fence
there,
so
there.
If
there's
a
window
there,
we
can
manage
the
site
a
little.
You
know
think.
I
A
H
A
H
J
And
address
for
the
record
yeah
my
name's
Peter
Schmidt
I
live
at
2219,
if
you
believe
it
or
not.
We
live
in
the
Attic,
so
I
want
to
touch
briefly
on
three
points.
Katie
tells
a
great
narrative
and
I
don't
want
to
get
too
long
along
with
in
on
this
part,
so
I
had
three
pieces
that
I
want
to
address,
one
of
which
is
the
solar
component.
J
That's
kind
of
my
wheelhouse
I
work
as
a
community
solar
developer
here
in
Minneapolis,
so
the
three
pieces
I
wanted
to
quickly
touch
on
is
finance
the
solar
pieces
and
the
setbacks
on
the
finance
side.
There's
there's
certainly
been
technical
difficulties
in
terms
of
designing
this.
This
space,
both
in
terms
of
finding
the
straw
Bell
component,
making
it
fit
on
the
a
lot
in
a
way
that
conforms
as
close
as
we
can
to
the
code,
but
also
it
turns
out
paying
for
a
project.
That's
quite
different
is
challenging.
J
A
lot
of
the
big
banks
wouldn't
touch
us,
because
it's
something
they'd
never
heard
of
before
a
lot
of
the
small
banks
when
touches,
because
it's
something
that
heard
it
before.
So
we
managed
to
go
through
quite
a
process
of
finding
mid-tier
banks
that
would
work
with
us
on
this
project.
Regional
banks
and
I
think
that's
actually
quite
useful
for
the
city
of
Minneapolis
be
able
to
show
that
model,
especially
as
the
building
stocks
can
be
changing
over
the
next
30
40
years,
as
we
try
to
meet
those
those
climate
climate
goals.
J
So
I
do
think
this
is
a
good
project
for
that
to
be
able
to
say,
hey,
there's
an
example
of
this
in
the
city,
and
we
know
how
to
finance
this.
We
know
what's
reliable,
we
know
what
it's
going
for.
So
that's
one
aspect
of
this
project,
that's
quite
interesting
on
the
solar
side
of
things,
as
Katie
I
think
got
it
made
a
great
point
on
this
is
a
very
intentional
project
in
a
lot
of
ways.
J
One
of
the
other
intentional
components
on
the
solar
side
is
that
not
only
are
these
going
to
be
optimized
for
solar
gain,
this
is
also
going
to
be
using
panels
that
are
manufactured
in
the
Iron
Range
hélène
manufacturing
is
a
Canadian
company
that
has
an
Iron,
Range
location.
It's
actually
using
by
facial
modules,
which
is
a
new
technology
which
is
it
has
a
clear
back
sheet
which
allows
you
to
produce
energy
for
both
sides
of
the
module.
J
So
one
of
the
cool
components
that
we
didn't
really
get
to
talk
about
in
the
plan
sets
is
we're
using
almost
a
skylight
component
over
the
balcony.
So
you
can
see
through
to
be
able
to
view
the
the
solar
panel
from
below
part
of
the
reason
for
this
is
we've
participated
in
the
this
solar
tour
in
the
past,
and
we
want
to
continue
to
do
that
in
the
future.
J
To
show
off
not
only
the
solar
panel
components,
the
heat
pump
components,
the
sustainable,
build
components,
but
again
we're
taking
a
very
intentional
approach
to
not
the
choosing
a
technology,
that's
good,
but
also
technology.
That's
local
here
to
us
in
Minnesota.
So
to
your
point
about
how
this
was
optimized,
the
lien
panels,
the
380
watt
modules
that
were
using
are
a
little
bit
longer
and
watt
or
longer
in
skinnier
than
a
traditional
300
or
330
watt
module.
So
right
now
we're
repurposing.
J
There
are
10
modules
that
are
on
our
garage,
the
Rick
deconstructing
through
better
features,
Minnesota
very
cool
group,
they're
recycling
and
repurposing
those
products,
so
those
10
modules
would
be
stored
in
our
basement
during
construction
and
then
those
10
in
additional
to
20
to
22
other
hélène
modules
will
be
put
back
on
the
roof
so
between
the
triplex
and
this
new
structure
really
having
somewhere
around
a
20
kilowatt
array,
which
is
quite
substantial,
especially
on
a
lot
this
size.
So
those
are
kind
of
the
financing
in
the
solar
pieces.
J
One
last
piece
I
wanted
to
put
in
in
the
packets
I
know,
you've
probably
seen
a
lot
of
letters
coming
in
on
the
setbacks
side
of
things.
One
piece:
both
our
northern
and
southern
direct
neighbors,
actually
requested
that
our
setbacks
be
even
reduced
on
the
east
side.
Again,
it's
abutting
a
parking
lot.
We
actually
worked
with
Xcel
Energy
on
this
as
well.
They
are
they've
agreed
to
actually
bury
our
electric
lines
on-site,
which
would
allow
us,
from
their
perspective,
to
go
within
a
foot.
I
know
it's
really
not
gonna
happen
with
this
body.
J
Just
saying,
there's
a
lot
of
different
actors,
kind
of
playing
into
what
we're
requesting,
in
the
setback
side
of
things,
for
our
tenants
we're
trying
to
create
the
biggest
possible
interior
yard,
you
were
removing
a
parking
pad.
That's
there
right
now
to
create
a
more
usable
space,
which
is
also
allowing
us
to
put
a
pollinator
garden
in
the
front
yard
of
our
triplex.
J
So
by
moving
the
the
property
potentially
far
even
further
to
the
east,
you
could
create
a
bigger
interior
yards
as
a
shared
10
amenity,
which
would
fall
under
some
of
the
the
cluster
development
goals,
as
well
as
just
making
things
nicer
for
the
tenants,
as
opposed
to
having
a
five
yard
of
a
five
foot
backyard.
That's
in
between
a
parking
lot
and
a
building
you
have
more
of
an
interior
usable
for
everyone.
J
I
know
there
is
a
staff
recommendation
on
the
table,
but
I
do
believe
it
is
when
the
within
this
bodies
control
to
actually
recommend
a
change
to
that
setback.
If
you
wanted
to
even
make
it
smaller
so
again,
a
lot
of
intentional
components
about
this
project.
We
have
also
a
good
correlation
of
of
other
neighbors
here
to
support
this
project
and
I'd
be
happy
to
talk
about
any
of
those
components
or
anything
else
in
the
project.
Thank
you.
A
K
I've
lived
in
the
Lowry
Hill
northeast
neighborhood
for
the
last
four
years:
I'm
friends
with
Katie
and
Peter
and
I've
worked
with
Katie
a
lot
on
the
Environmental
Committee,
and
one
of
the
best
things
about
Lena
is
our
focus
on
sustainable
initiatives.
The
neighborhood
even
offers
a
green
loan
for
the
purpose
of
energy
efficiency
and
renewable
energy
upgrades.
K
Each
component
of
this
building
will
be
carefully
selected
with
its
final
destination
in
mind.
Beyond
the
life
of
the
structure
itself.
At
the
end
of
its
life,
a
lot
of
it
will
be
compostable
rather
than
sent
to
a
landfill
and
the
construction
of
this
building
challenges.
People
to
consider
the
lifetime
impact
of
all
that
we're
investing
in
it
will
spark
new
ideas
and
promote
eco-friendly
lifestyles
that
help
target
climate
change
and
reduce
massive
amounts
of
waste.
K
That
we
produce
especially
exciting,
is
the
way
that
Katie
wants
to
incorporate
the
neighborhood
involvement
and
I
think
that
will
help
spread
some
of
those
things
to
be
able
to
see
something
like
this
done.
The
project
is
requesting
a
couple
of
variances,
including
one
for
a
reduction
in
side
yard
setbacks.
The
current
5
foot
requirement
for
single-family
homes
is
already
uncommon
within
our
neighborhood.
The
garage
at
my
own
residence
is
only
3
feet
from
our
neighbor's
garage.
I
didn't
build
it.
K
Minneapolis
is
undertaking
many
zero-waste
efforts
with
the
goal
of
not
just
environmental
stewardship,
but
also
advancing
economic
processes
and
increasing
environmental
justice.
The
city
can
further
promote
these
goals
and
support
the
innovation
of
our
Minneapolis
residents
by
granting
the
side
yards
back
variants
that
will
allow
for
the
energy-efficient
design
of
this
project.
I'm
excited
to
see
the
inspiration
that
this
could
bring
to
our
community
Thanks.
L
L
Just
super
excited
that
this
is
going
to
be
new
technology
of
the
the
bail
build
straw,
bale,
build
and
I
think
it
could
be
a
great
forget.
Some
publicity
could
be
a
great
citywide
effort
eventually
and
I.
Really
look
forward
to
the
education
process
in
our
local
neighborhood
community
is
sweet.
Have
the
community
involvement
in
the
build
so
just
as
a
cross,
the
street
neighbor
on
one,
they
say:
I
really
support
this
in
all
their
efforts.
I
think
they
might
have
their
smallest
carbon
footprint
of
anyone.
I've
ever
met
might
just
be
a
thumb.
A
N
It
I
think
that
you
know
this
is
the
type
of
thing
that
we
want
to
see
become
a
model
for
the
city
and
I
believe
that
in
particular,
the
energy
efficiency
techniques
that
they
need
for
their
walls
justify
the
setback,
reductions,
so
I,
guess
I'll
start
by
making
motions
for
the
staff
recommended
motion,
so
I
would
move
to
approve
the
conditional
use
permit
to
allow
for
cluster
development
and
with
the
two
conditions
listed
and
the
variance
to
reduce
the
minimum
lot
area.
A.
A
N
N
M
A
B
I
I
have
to
say
initially
when
I
was
reading
through
the
packet,
I
kind
of
was
thinking
that
staff
had
made
a
really
reasonable
decision
in
a
lot
of
these
I
think
in
no
particular
order
right,
I
do
want
to
say
that
I
think
the
entrance
to
the
to
the
south
it
doesn't
I
would
actually
for
once
disagree
with
staff
on
this
I
think
it
is
not
a
principal
entrance.
I
would
define
it
more
of
a
secondary
entrance.
It's
it
if
I
were
to
design.
Let's
say
this
is
a
rental
structure.
B
B
Well,
the
second
floor
has
you
know
some
extra
square
footage.
You
could
think
about
shrinking
it
in
reality,
it's
being
driven
by
the
lower
floor
plan
with
the
hallway,
the
bathroom,
the
two
bedrooms
are
reasonably
sized
and
because
it
almost
necessitates
the
width
of
the
structure.
That's
what's
leading
to
many
of
these
variances,
at
least
in
my
opinion,
so
I
would
say
that
that
extra
thickness,
the
fact
that
if
you
went
with
an
inferior
thing,
you
might
not
be
here
in
front
of
us
to
me.
B
B
You
don't
want
that
molding
out
on
you
and
then
having
your
house
collapse
so
as
I
am
kind
of
bummed
that
there
are
not
more
windows,
however,
so
maybe
consider
something,
but
but
I
can't
mandate
that
as
a
result
of
the
slide,
so
I
will
be
supporting
the
motion
as
it
stands.
For
for
the
three
and
I
also
agree
that
the
the
rear
yard
setback
I
do
think
that
tents.
Do
you
wasted
space
and
I
understand
for
fire
purposes?
B
F
I
won't
be
able
to
support
the
motion
and
it's
not
because
I
don't
think
that
this
is
a
great
project
and
everything
that
you've
said
about
it.
Sometimes
the
law
is
the
last
thing
to
catch
up
with
good
ideas
and
things
that
are
happening
and
I
think
that
what
you
have
here
is
an
excellent
example
of
a
reason
that
perhaps
some
of
these
building
ordinances
or
the
Adu,
ordinance
or
I'm
not
sure
exactly
what
it
is,
should
change
to
be
able
to
accommodate
something
like
this.
F
F
That's
not
the
reason
that
you
can't
do
it
and
you
know
the
the
rules
of
the
game
really
are
still
that
you
can't
do
everything
you
want
with
the
property
that
you
have,
even
if
it's
for
a
good
reason
or
a
good
thing
or
promotes
another
goal
of
the
comp
plan.
Promoting
a
goal
of
the
comp
plan
is
not
the
same
as
having
a
legal,
practical
difficulty
and
even
in
the
discussion
as
I
was
listening,
you
know
what
I
heard
was
that
there's
a
practical
need
for
a
variance?
F
That's
not
the
standard
that
we
have
and
that's
not
what's
required
by
the
ordinances
of
the
city
of
Minneapolis,
so
I
guess
I.
Would
you
know
recommend
strongly
to
our
councilmember
on
the
commissioner
that
perhaps
you
know
something
like
this
be
looked
at,
for
you
know,
ways
ways
around
it
or
things
are
a
way
forward.
You
know
I
think
it's
an
excellent
example
of
something
that
people
can
can
do
and
should
do,
but
I
don't
think
you
have.
The
bay
is
for
the
findings
in
this
case,
so
I'll
be
voting
against
it.
Sorry.
O
Mr.
shredder,
thank
you,
I
think
that's
an
excellent
point.
I
will
be
supporting
this.
It
is
something
the
city
is
struggling
with.
Last
year,
at
the
end
of
the
year,
we
passed
a
sustainable
building
policy
working
on
the
details
of
that
right
now
and
I
think
when
we
talk
up
the
law
not
being
there
yet
I,
think
that
that's
something
that's
evolving
extremely
quickly.
I
mean
you're.
Talking
about
when
you're
building
a
cold
built
house.
How
many
years
are
we
going
to
get
something
out
of
that?
You
know.
O
N
C
This
particular
structure
as
proposed,
would
exceed
the
maximum
height
a
lot
of
her
an
accessory
dwelling
unit.
It
would
also
exceed
the
maximum
fer
for
an
accessory
dwelling
unit.
The
point
about
the
principal
entrance
I'd
have
to
look
to
Kimberly
to
help
me
out
on
reminding
me
if
the
side
entrance
is
allowed-
and
it's
just
not
coming
to
me
right
now-.
M
L
A
O
C
Believe
that
this
20
feet
is
what's
proposed
in
the
in
the
text,
amendment
it's
okay
and
as
this
structures
is
I,
believe
33
feet
to
the
to
the
peak
and
I
believe
it's
25
just
bear
with
me
a
moment
there.
We
are
it's
25
feet
to
the
midpoint,
so
this
would
this
would
exceed
both
floor
area
and
height,
so
it
is
not
consistent
with
our
Adu
regulations
for
those
two,
those
two
zoning
regulations.
Thank
you.
G
I'd
like
to
bring
up
that
the
triplex
is
nearing
40
feet
in
height,
so
the
existing
property-
that's
going
to
remain,
is
it's
quite
tall,
so
the
ATU
ordinance
of
limit
of
20
feet
or
theirs,
whichever
one
is
greater,
so
it
still
doesn't
comply.
But
the
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
the
principal
structure
is
quite
a
bit
taller
than
a
typical
house.
E
As
I'm
actually
reading
through
this
and
listening
to
everyone
will
admit
that
it's
this
is
quite
difficult
to
try
to
figure
out
what
makes
the
most
sense.
The
question
that
I
had,
which
me
I
may
have
should
I
probably
should
have
asked
the
applicant
earlier-
was
that
a
part
of
the
difficulty
that
is
being
raised
is
due
to
the
thickness
of
the
walls
and
and
I
definitely
understand
that.
But
even
if
it
was
a
regular
wall,
it
will
still
be
exceeding
the
setbacks
required
and
so
I
guess.
E
My
understanding
is
limited
in
a
sense
that
I
don't
see
why
that
would
be
the
case.
So
I
would
understand
it.
If,
if
with
a
regular
type
of
wall,
you
would
be
meeting
the
variance,
but
with
this
type
now
you're,
not
then
I
would
say.
Yes,
it's
a
practical
difficulty,
but
even
with
a
regular
type
of
wall,
it's
still
not
meeting
the
code.
So
that's
where
I
have
a
bit
of
a
problem
with
trying
to
understand
why
this
would
be
an
actual
practical
difficulty.
G
So
shrinking
the
walls
back
to
code,
minimum
construction
and
a
minor
adjustment
of
the
the
location
of
the
home
on
the
site
would
allow
us
to
comply
not
with
the
southern
setback
of
15
feet,
but
with
the
the
other,
the
north
and
the
East
setbacks.
So
there's
a
way
that
we
can
design
around
that
fairly
easily
without
reducing
interior
liveable
floor
area.
I
just
wanted
to
do
you
have
other
questions
about
that.
I
want
to
make
sure
that's
clear.
G
E
I
guess,
without
compromising
the
straw
bale
structure,
you're
saying
that
it's
possible
to
change
the
design
to
the
point
we
would
have
to
compromise
this
travel
starship.
Okay,
well,
that
that
was
my
point.
That
I
would
understand
that
for
wanting
to
meet
the
sustainability
goals
and
wanting
to
be
in
compliance
with
Minneapolis
2040
that
exceeding
the
variance
by
the
amount
of
the
thickness
of
the
wall,
I
think
would
be
acceptable
in
my
mind,
but
for
the
extra
I
don't
understand
that
that
was
all
I
was
saying
I.
P
N
M
A
A
On
the
practical
difficulties
of
the
setbacks,
a
feeling
that
the
entrance
to
the
South
should
not
be
considered
principal
entrance
and
that
the
2040
plan
has
a
series
of
goals
around
sustainability
and
just
to
add
some
color
to
that
those
may
I
think
the
most
applicable.
There
are
policy,
68
and
67,
which
call
for
decreased
demand
for
energy,
increased
locally
produced
energy
and
then
indicates
I
wish
to
avoid
the
need
for
retrofits,
sustainable
building
materials
and
so
forth.
A
There
is
therefore
a
comprehensive
plan,
support
for
sustainable
building
practices
which
are
in
conflict
with
our
current
zoning
code,
and
we
are
in
a
period
of
time
where
our
comprehensive
plan
guidance
is
not
aligned
with
our
zoning
code,
and
we
are
struggling
with
this
in
every
every
week
and
every
month
on
how
to
thread
this
needle.
So
this
is
I
think,
represents
the
findings
that
have
been
made
with
that
clerk.
Please
call
the
roll.