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From YouTube: February 10, 2020 City Planning Commission
Description
Minneapolis City Planning Commission Meeting
https://lims.minneapolismn.gov
A
A
Our
first
order
of
business
today
is
to
approve
the
minutes
of
the
January
27th
2020
City
Planning
Commission
Mary.
A
meeting
do
I,
have
a
motion,
a
motion
and
a
second
to
accept
the
minutes
of
January
27th
meeting
a
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
opposed
that
motion
carries
all
right.
Our
next
order
of
business.
Do
we
have
a
report
out
no
report
out
from
Committee
of
the
Whole.
Our
next
order
of
business
is
to
adopt
the
agenda
for
today's
meeting
I'm
going
to
work
through
the
agenda
for
those
of
you
here
in
the
audience.
A
If
you
wish
to
testify
on
an
item
as
I
listed
off,
please
indicate
that
you
wish
to
testify.
Otherwise
we
will
place
it
on
consent
and
there
will
not
be
a
testimony
on
that
item.
So
our
first
item
item
number
four
is
the
been
in
Deer
South
middle
school
at
twenty
five?
Twenty
six:
twenty
seventh
Avenue
South
in
Ward
2,
an
application
for
a
non-conforming
use
expansion.
Is
anyone
here
to
testify
against
staff
recommendation
on
that
item?
Yes,
we
have
one
person,
we've
put
item
number
four.
A
A
No
one
will
place
item
number
five
on
consent.
Item
number:
six
is
the
art
and
architecture,
building
development,
33
26,
three,
three,
three
eight
and
thirty,
three
fifty
University
Avenue
southeast.
We
will
discuss
item
number
six.
Let
me
see
how
many
folks
are
here
for
item
number,
six,
just
sort
of
a
sense.
Oh
perfect.
Thank
you
item
number.
Seven
is
3801
Hiawatha
apartments,
3801
a
38,
45
Hiawatha
Avenue.
Is
anyone
here
to
speak
on
the
Hiawatha
apartments?
One
person
all
right
we'll
place
that
on
our
discussion.
A
Under
number
eight
is
the
zoning
code
text
amendment
on
garages
and
is
anybody
here
to
speak
on
that
if
I
I,
don't
number
eight
will
be
on
a
consent?
Item
number
9
of
the
Duffy
lofts
500
506
and
528
Washington
Avenue
North
couple
of
variances
and
a
site
plan
review.
Is
anyone
here
to
speak
on
the
Duffy
applause?
A
No
one
up
seeing
three
people.
We
will
place
that
on
discussion,
discussion,
agenda
and
item
number
ten
is
curry:
Park
404
and
for
2015
Avenue
South,
14:17,
South,
fifth
Street
in
Ward
six
vacation.
There
is
anybody
here
to
speak
on
item
number
ten,
so
you
know
one
will
place
item
number
ten
on
consent
and
item
number
11
is
31:15
East
42nd
Street
in
Ward,
12,
rezoning,
variances
and
site
plan
review.
Is
anyone
here
to
speak?
Several
are
here
to
speak
on
item
number
11.
A
We
have
a
motion.
A
second
to
approve
the
agenda,
as
amended
on
favor,
say
aye
motion
carries
next:
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
on
the
consent
agenda.
If
anyone
wishes
just
say
any
words
on
the
items
number
five,
eight
or
ten,
seeing
no
one
I'll
close
public
hearing
on
the
consent
agenda.
Commissioners
do
I,
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda
with
staff
recommendations,
I
have
a
motion
and
a
second
all
in
favor,
say
aye
motion
carries
all
right
on
to
our
discussion
items.
B
A
direct
walkway
from
27th
Avenue
to
the
school,
improved
landscaping
and
also
arrows
to
a
lot
of
for
parking,
allow
traffic
to
more
efficiently
and
safely
get
through
the
site
by
having
arrows
pointing
which
way
vehicles
be
able
to
go
from
the
site
via
the
alley
to
the
street
and
making
sure
that
there
isn't
conflicts
with
vehicles
trying
to
go
both
ways.
At
the
same
time,
and
with
that
they,
the
project
meets
the
parking
requirement,
they're,
not
looking
to
expand
the
size
of
the
school.
B
A
D
D
You
go
to
bar
around
the
corner,
but
but
the
reason
I
came
today
that
I
feel
it's
important
to
speak
to
this
is
is
because
of
diesel
fumes
in
the
area,
and
it's
it's
it's
gotten
to
be
a
it's
public,
health
risk
and
and
so
I'm
totally
in
favor
of
having
a
playground,
but
I
am
not
in
favor
of
children.
Breathing
diesel
fumes
I
hold
a
tobacco
treatment,
especially
certification
from
Mayo
Clinic,
and
this
is
secondhand
smoke,
and
these
are
carcinogens,
and
this
is
the
number
one
leading
cause
of
premature
death
in
the
country.
D
Is
tobacco
smoke.
We
are
talking
secondhand
smoke
here.
A
lot
of
the
same
constituents
larger
particle
matters
in
the
suit.
This
is
not
an
appropriate
use
of
space
to
have
these
diesel
trucks.
Idling
they're,
the
idle
for
maybe
all
day
long
they're,
not
just
passing
through
they're,
not
just
idling.
For
10-15
minutes,
if
I
call
about
the
idling
issue,
I
get
a
variety
of
responses,
and
some
of
them
include
don't
approach
the
vehicle
they
might
have.
A
gun.
D
Chuck's
are
allowed
to
idle.
If
there's
a
sleeper
car
in
the
truck
ordinances
do
allow
refrigeration
units
which
are
powered
by
diesel
and
and
I've
been
told
not
to
call
9-1-1
for
this
problem,
if
there's
a
refrigeration
unit
sitting
directly
outside
of
the
common
ground,
Meditation
Center
space,
which
is
also
right
there
at
that
corner,
it
sets
off
the
co
alarm
in
that
building
and
and
carbon
monoxide
is
the
number
one
health
risk
for
for
smoking.
A
combustible
cigarette.
So
carbon
monoxide,
we
all
know
it's
deadly.
D
D
And
again,
children
are
more
sensitive
to
air
pollution
because
they
breathe
50%,
more
air
per
pound
of
body
weight
than
I
do
adults.
So
on
any
given
day,
you
could
easily
find
a
dozen
trucks
on
that
block
surrounding
the
block.
You
could
find
five
more
to
the
south
and
several
more
to
the
east
and
front
of
my
house,
where
they're
not
supposed
to
be
so
that
that's
my
concern,
I
think
it's
a
it's
a!
It
really
needs
to
be
looked
at
yes
for
playground,
but
please
get
these
trucks
off
that
area.
This
is
not
appropriate.
A
E
A
A
So
much
is
there
anybody
else
wishing
to
speak
on
the
sidelines,
saying
now
close
public
hearing
and
commissioners.
We
have
one
application
before
us:
an
expansion
of
a
legal
non-conforming
use
to
allow
for
a
new
playground.
Are
there
any
further
questions
of
staff
discussion
or
with
somebody
like
to
start
off
with
the
motion.
F
F
Am
I
so
just
to
speak
to
their
credit
findings.
I
find
your
testimony
very
compelling.
We
are
quasi-judicial
in
nature
and
have
to
meet
the
required
findings,
none
of
which
address
that
the
additional
addition
of
a
playground
isn't
adding
that
condition
to
the
site.
It
seems
like
outward
influences
are
adding
that
very
valid
concern,
so
I
would
say
that
it's,
unfortunately,
none
of
the
six
required
findings
are
things
that
I
can
tied
to
any
of
that
which
would
be
required
in
order
to
vote
against
staff
recommendation.
F
That
being
said,
I
would
encourage
you
to
follow
up
with
your
councilmember,
as
they
were
just
discussing
diesel
emissions
very
recently
and
see
if
sign
can
be
done.
If
think,
it's
a
very
timely
concern,
so
it
doesn't
say:
I
hear
you,
but
legally
there
I
can't
the
required
findings
aren't
supportable
with
what
you're
with
that,
because
the
playground
itself,
which
is
the
non-conforming
thing
in
question,
is
not
what's
causing
the
problem
so
so
I
apologize,
but
that
I
have
to
vote
for
staff
recommendation.
A
A
I
The
project
is
returning
to
the
Commission
to
consider
a
number
of
proposed
changes
to
the
proposal
which
are
outlined
in
the
staff
reports.
Again,
this
project
was
approved
at
the
Commission.
It
was
appealed
to
the
City,
Planning
Commission
and
then
approved
by
them
subject
to
a
number
of
conditions.
I
Several
of
the
changes
would
be
considered.
Minor
changes
under
our
site
plan
review
ordinance.
The
primary
change
that
is
requiring
reconsideration
by
the
Planning
Commission
under
public
hearing
would
be
an
increase
in
the
number
of
proposed
dwelling
units
from
208
units
to
256
units.
So
that's
48
additional
units
I'm
going
to
go
through
a
few
other
changes
that
the
applicant
is
proposing
that
are
pertain
to
the
CU,
p
application
and
site
plan
review
application.
I
A
number
of
these
changes
are
being
driven
by
a
conversion,
a
proposed
conversion
of
the
tower
element
of
the
project
from
condo
units
to
apartment
rental
units.
As
a
result
of
that,
the
tower
portion
which
you
see
on
the
left
and
well
top
left
in
the
bottom
right
corner
of
this
image,
is
getting
shorter
and
somewhat
narrower.
I
I
Other
changes
include
having
to
do
with
the
existing
art
and
architecture
building
on
the
site,
so
there's
an
exhibit
that
shows
that
height
and
bulk
reduction
of
the
proposed
tower
element
and
then
the
existing
structure
that
the
proposal
is
proposing
to
conserve
a
part
of
is
located
at
the
center
of
the
the
design
proposal.
You
can
see
it
in
this
image
here.
I
There's
also
a
reduction
in
the
total
overall
proposed
commercial
space
from
34,000
to
2720
7,500
square
feet
and
a
reduction
in
the
total
vehicle
parking
spaces
from
267
to
237
spaces.
I
should
note
that
the
proposal
is
still
within
the
minimum
vehicle
parking
requirement
with
that
reduction.
There's
also
a
reduction
in
the
overall
total
fer.
I
From
three
point:
eight,
two
to
three
point:
five
one:
the
applicant
is
not
proposing
any
changes
in
the
proposed
amenities
that
they
are
proposing
for
alternatives
to
the
zoning
exceptions
and
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
all
of
the
modifications
subject
to
all
of
the
conditions
that
were
placed
on
the
project
under
its
previous
approval
cycle
and
includes
conditions
placed
by
the
Planning
Commission
and
by
the
City
Council
under
the
appeals
process.
So
I
won't
go
too
for
into
detailed
applicants
also
here,
as
their
architectural
team
I
can
take
any
questions.
A
Very
good:
are
there
any
questions
for
staff
Peter
just
to
clarify
it?
You
just
went
over
a
number
of
changes,
but
looking
your
memo,
we
are
really
focused
on
the
dwelling
unit.
Correct
count!
Yes,
all
right!
Thank
you
because
the
other
changes
are
considered
minor.
That's
right
all
right!
Thank
you
any
other.
Oh
sorry,.
F
F
F
C
J
Thank
You
commissioners
I
have
a
flu
recently
diagnosis
or
why
I'm
wearing
the
face
mask.
So
please
forgive
me
for
that.
I'm
re
parrots
that
represent
four
million
development.
The
developer
of
the
the
art
and
architecture
project,
which
is
now
known
as
the
wallace
Prospect
Park,
and
what
I
thought
I
would
do
to
supplement.
Peter's
comments
was
to
talk
about
what
we're
asking
for
and
why
we're
asking
for
it
and
then
to
also
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
history
of
the
project
and
how
we've
gotten
to
where
we
are
today.
J
The
proposed
change
comes
from
market
courses
that
made
it
impossible
to
develop
the
previous
plan
of
the
tower.
These
market
forces
are
not
unique
to
our
project.
Other
projects,
including
a
prominent
one
in
Northeast
Minneapolis,
experienced
the
same
pressures
and
were
forced
to
change
their
program
as
well.
Our
request
increased
the
project's
unit.
Count
by
48
units
is
consistent
with
a
variety
of
2040
plan
goals,
as
outlined
in
the
staff
report.
The
increase
in
units
does
not
result
in
any
increase
in
massing
or
built
form.
J
J
These
additional
units
provide
more
people
the
opportunity
to
live
in
Prospect
Park,
a
neighborhood
with
historically
low
housing
turnover
and
poor
access
for
new
residents
to
enjoy
and
contribute
to
the
neighborhood.
We
also
commissioned
an
updated
tdmp
to
reflect
this
change
the
last
spring
and
an
Inc
concluded
that
parking
demand
will
be
fully
accommodated
with
the
on-site
parking
that
we
have
as
part
of
our
plan.
How
do
we
get
here
we're
sitting
18
months
roughly
from
the
last
time
we
were
in
front
of
the
Commission,
and
a
lot
has
happened
since
then.
J
Our
original
PUD,
as
you
know,
was
approved
by
council
in
August
of
2018
between
August
of
2018
in
January
of
2019.
We
worked
hard
to
put
together
the
financing
for
the
project,
but
the
foresail
component
proved
impossible
to
structure
around.
We
then
began
exploring
modifications
that
would
enable
our
project
to
move
forward,
and
we
discussed
these
modifications
proactively
with
planning
staff
to
ensure
compliance
with
our
original
PUD
and
to
keep
the
number
or,
frankly,
any,
of
the
changes
in
the
minor
category,
avoiding
needing
to
come
back
for
major
changes.
J
Their
conclusion,
which
you
are
aware
of,
was
that
the
only
one
of
those
changes
that
required
plan
Commission
approval
as
a
major
change,
was
this
increase
in
Unicom
in
December
of
2018,
after
unsuccessful
attempts
to
derail
our
project,
a
Plan
Commission,
the
zoning
and
planning
committee
Council
and
then
Council
again
through
an
eaw
petition.
We
were
sued
by
a
recently
formed
group
called
friends
of
Tyrell
Park,
which
is
led
by
several
of
the
same
folks
who
are
here
today.
J
This
groups,
central
claim
is
the
debunked
assertion
that
our
project
blocks
views
and
historic
integrity
of
the
witch's
hat
tower.
One
of
the
conditions
of
our
original
entitlement
was
that
we
consult
with
a
historic
consultant
on
mitigating
any
impact
on
the
witches
at
our
new
history.
The
city
of
Minneapolis
approved
historic
consultant,
concluded
in
a
memo
from
last
summer.
The
Wallis
Prospect
Park
development
does
not
have
an
impact
on
the
historic
integrity
of
the
Prospect
Park
water
tower.
J
It
does
not
impact
the
integrity
of
location,
design,
setting
workmanship
materials,
association
or
feeling
of
the
historic
water
tower.
Similarly,
the
Wallis
Prospect
Park
development
is
a
mixed-use
residential
and
commercial
development
in
an
historically
mixed-use
area
of
the
Prospect
Park
neighborhood
and
as
such,
does
not
adversely
impact
the
integrity
of
other
historic
resources
in
Prospect
Park,
because
the
Wallis
Prospect
Park
does
not
adversely
impact
the
integrity
of
historic
resources
in
Prospect.
Park
mitigation
measures
are
not
required
into
full
memo.
I'm
sure
is
available
to
you
through
the
staff,
reporting
and
sipping.
J
Those
who
are
here
to
oppose
our
project
have
never
been
concerned
with
density,
measured
in
unit
count
for
our
project.
They
have
been
centrally
concerned
with
issues
related
to
the
witch's
hat,
the
height
of
the
tower
and
the
rear
yard
setback.
All
of
those
issues
were
reviewed
extensively
during
our
community
engagement
process
with
PPA
and
then
again
during
planned
commission,
the
zoning
and
planning
committee
in
council
during
the
summer
of
2018
and
are
not
up
for
re
review
right
now.
J
While
we
were
in
our
legal
quote,
unquote
silent
period,
the
PPA
voted
to
withdraw
from
our
MOU,
which
had
been
signed
in
the
previous
summer,
citing
ongoing
concerns
about
the
witches
hat
height
and
setbacks.
The
PPA
board
that
facilitated
the
withdrawal
is
a
fundamentally
different
board
than
the
one
with
which
we
collaborated
during
2018.
We
could
not
participate
in
their
process,
nor
were
we
invited
to
do
so.
This
is
in
stark
contrast:
the
comprehensive
collaborative
engagement
process
we
worked
through
during
the
spring
in
summer
of
2018.
J
Many
many
people
in
Prospect
Park,
including
those
who
served
on
our
original
PPA
task
force,
as
well
as
those
who
served
on
the
PPA
board,
support
our
project
in
its
currently
proposed
form.
They
and
I
know
you
are
able
to
see
the
big
picture
benefits
that
our
project
offers
the
community
in
the
city
of
Minneapolis.
Thank
you
and
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions.
C
A
K
Commission,
my
name
is
Eric
amel
I'm,
currently
serving
as
the
Prospect
Park
Association
president
for
the
Association,
and
want
to
give
you.
The
position
of
the
Association
that
has
come
from
a
open
public
process
turns
out
that
there's
a
laughs.
The
majority
of
the
neighbors
are
not
pleased
with
the
project,
so
I
put
up
on
the
board,
and
you
should
have
your
pack
at
the
resolutions
by
the
board.
K
The
first
resolution
is
basically
to
say
that
there
isn't
support
for
the
project
as
currently
proposed
that
we
withdraw
from
the
current
mo
you
that
had
been
founded
that
your
previous,
that
that
there
should
be
new
conversations
started
towards
a
new
agreement
with
development.
That's
the
first
resolution.
The
second
resolution
to
a
is
about
proximity,
proximity
to
the
National,
Historic
District
and
the
nationally
designated
park
in
tower.
It
reads
that
the
Association
opposes
any
variance
that
allows
a
tall
building
10
feet
from
property
lines,
located
a
block
way
from
the
tower
that
blocks
views.
K
The
third
resolution
numbered
to
be
is
about
view
shed
in
height.
It
says
that
the
Association
adopts
language
from
a
2018
petition
that
focuses
on
development
rules
related
both
the
views
sheds
to
and
from
the
tower
in,
the
height
proximity
to
witches
had
tower,
and
that
was
a
petition
that
was
on
change.org
and
I'm.
Gonna
turn
this.
K
It
was
signed
by
about
800
folks
and
basically,
what
it's
proposing
is
that
within
600
feet
of
the
tower
that
there's
a
circle
inscribed
that
limits
development
height
to
elevation
10:30
10:30
represents
is
the
is
the
floor
of
the
observation
deck.
The
project
has
currently
proposed
breaks
that
line
by
2,
10
and
11
feet,
or
so
plus
appurtenances
on
the
roof.
K
So
the
the
board
ratified
the
findings
of
the
expanded
land-use
community
meeting
on
that
front
and
contends
that
that
we
can't
support
the
project
has
proposed
that
if
it
were
to
fall
within
the
the
the
heights
and
setbacks
of
the
current
transit
ten
ordinance,
we
could
probably
support
it.
Thank
you.
L
L
This
new
project
is
very
different
than
the
original
project
that
was
supported
by
by
our
board
and
where
we
had
a
2018
MoU
agreement
with
the
developer,
when
we
learned
that
the
original
project
failed
due
a
lack
of
due
to
a
lack
of
financing
for
the
condos
PPA
took
this
very
seriously,
especially
since
the
original
project
was
really
controversial.
As
a
result,
we
sought
community
input
on
the
new
project.
L
The
developer
presented
the
PPA
with
detailed
written
information
about
the
project,
and
we
shared
this
along
with
plain
language,
summaries,
more
broadly
at
a
series
of
land-use
committee
meetings,
as
well
as
a
large-scale
meeting
with
over
a
hundred
people.
Ppa
is
working
hard
to
be
authentic,
with
community
engagement.
It's
hard.
L
We
adopted
widely
accepted
standards
in
public
participation
like
those
used
by
the
city,
and
we
used
a
facilitated
process
to
try
to
get
past
I
like
or
I,
don't
like
the
process
and
look
at
specific
or
a
like,
or
don't
like
the
project,
look
at
specific
elements
and
discuss
what
was
new
very
briefly.
Here's
what
we
heard
86%
of
participants
did
not
support
the
overall
changes
to
the
project.
People
had
the
greatest
concerns
for
the
changes
in
units,
but
changes
in
unit
count.
Loss
of
condominiums,
adjacent
property,
owner
issues
and
still
height
was
a
concern.
L
Sadly,
many
people
also
told
us
that
they
felt
let
down
by
the
project.
Some
who
had
voted,
yes
said
that
they
felt
that
they'd
been
sold
on
something
different
case
in
point.
The
high-rise
building
was
specifically
touted
as
being
necessary
for
condominiums.
Now
that
is
no
longer
the
case.
We
also
heard
that
community
members
are
very
supportive
of
Minneapolis
2040
and
of
development
in
Prospect
Park.
L
We
just
want
it
done
well,
I
like
to
say
that
we're
not
NIMBY
and
we're
not
yummy,
but
we're
doing
b4
done
well
in
my
backyard,
and
we
really
do
feel
that
we
want
development,
but
we
want
to
be
able
to
protect
a
few
special
places
that
give
us
those
features
of
our
neighborhood
that
are
important
for
the
neighborhood
and
the
city,
like
the
iconic,
singular
landmark
of
the
witch's
hot
water
tower
and
Prospect
Park
in
some.
We
believe
a
solution
is
possible
with
redesign,
and
this
new
project
is
not
it.
L
M
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Gilliland
I
live
at
one
seymour,
which
is
when
within
350
feet
of
this
project.
Thank
you
for
keeping
an
open
mind
to
the
neighborhood
perspective
on
this
project.
We
need
your
help.
Finding
a
way
forward
that
is
respectful
to
the
vision
of
Minneapolis
2040
and
to
the
position
of
PPA,
so
Peter
Crandall
should
have
forwarded
to
you
this
morning.
Information
on
three
different
topics
that
I
would
ask
that
you
please
play
pay
particular
attention
to
one.
M
Is
your
authority
to
modify
a
PUD
application
to
fulfill
the
purpose
of
the
PUD
ordinance?
That's
per
chapter
527,
the
purpose
of
the
PUD
explicitly
includes
protecting
heritage,
historic
features,
and
given
that
your
charge
is
to
think
broadly
about
the
city,
this
means
thinking
about
the
broader
impacts
of
the
project,
not
just
looking
at,
what's
maybe
technically
on
the
site.
The
second
is
that
I
sent
information
that
questions
the
PUD
points
that
are
being
awarded
for
conservation
when
the
applicant
proposes
to
demolish
more
than
half
of
the
art
and
architecture.
Building
that
diagram.
M
But
I,
don't
know
how
you
can
give
conservation
points
when
you're
you
are
otherwise
meeting
that
the
city's
definition
of
demolition,
the
third
set
of
information
is,
is
about
what
seems
to
be
it
from
our
perspective
of
stonewalling
on
the
important
questions
of
Historic
Preservation
and
here
I
included
declaration
from
Professor
Greg
D'onofrio.
This
was
requested
and
he
volunteered
to
do
this
about
a
year
ago.
M
It
was
when
we
weren't
seeing
anyone
else
in
the
city
or
the
developer
had
not
yet
that
time
made
good
on
the
condition
that
they
consult
with
a
historian,
and
professor
D'onofrio
has
determined
that
there's
a
detrimental
impact.
I
I
would
ask
you
to
please
read
his
credentials.
Please
read
his
very
full
analysis
and
please
read
his
conclusion:
that
the
location
and
the
height
of
the
fourteenth
storey
tower
does
impair
the
historic
integrity
of
the
witch's
hat
in
terms
of
the
national
preservation
guidelines.
M
Importantly,
condominiums
were
inextricably
linked
to
neighborhood.
Support
of
the
project
and
neighborhood
support
of
the
project
was
inextricably
linked
to
city
approvals
in
2018,
the
condominiums
were
understood
even
by
people
like
me
to
be
a
desired
thing
that
balanced
the
otherwise
negative
impact
of
the
14th
storey
tower.
The
project
architect
stated
to
this
Commission
in
2018
that
they
couldn't
just
shift
massing
from
the
tower
to
other
areas
of
the
site
because
they
needed
to
separate
the
ownership
structure
from
the
rental
structures.
This
is
no
longer
the
case.
M
If
all
dwelling
units
are
now
rental,
the
applicant
can
no
longer
credibly
make
the
argument
that
they
do
not
have
flexibility
for
how
the
massing
is
distributed
across
the
nearly
two
acre
site.
So
please
be
wary
of
any
reasons
for
why
this
project
still
needs
to
be
a
14-story
tower
so
close
to
the
witch's
hat
and
to
the
residential
edge.
The
neighborhood
should
not
bear
the
brunt
of
risky
choices
made
by
the
applicant,
and
the
city
should
not
allow
a
developer
to
take
advantage
of
broken
promises.
M
So
I'm
asking
you,
please
deny
these
applications
or
continue
them
to
study
them,
but
you
cannot
approve
them,
as
is,
alternatively,
please
hold
the
developer,
whether
208
units
or
256
units
hold
them
accountable
to
transit
10,
which
is
a
10-story
limit
and
require
a
rear
yard
setback
for
10
storeys
for
our
neighbors.
Thank
you
thank.
A
N
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
David
Gunn
del
and
I'm
sharing
my
family's
personal
truth
and
perspective
from
29
Clarence
Avenue,
a
home
and
property
directly
behind
the
13
storey
tower
of
the
proposed
Wallace
project.
My
property
and
those
of
my
next-door
neighbors
will
be
most
impacted
by
this
development
by
impact
I
mean
proximity,
potential,
structural
impact,
significant
noise
vibration
and
air
pollution
for
18
to
24
months
permanent
loss
a
morning
light
resulting
from
the
height
of
the
building
and
likely
diminished
property
value.
N
My
ask
is
that
you
reverse
the
setback,
variance
decision
or
pause
and
ask
the
city
planning
staff
to
seek
additional
perspective
on
a
variance
that
allows
us
13
story
structure
to
move
from
31
feet
to
10
feet,
one
inch
off
of
the
property
line.
It
allows
a
significant
retaining
wall
2
feet
off
of
the
property
line.
N
The
perspective
I
want
to
share
around
this
relates
to
a
narrative
that
has
developed
around
this
project,
suggesting
that
those
in
opposition
to
it
are
a
group
of
liberal
progressive
elites
that
generally
support
projects
like
this,
except
when
they
are
in
their
own
backyard.
This
project
can't
get
anymore
in
my
backyard.
N
N
She
has
worked
incredibly
hard
every
step
of
the
way
to
create
a
life
for
her
biracial
children,
where
they
could
have
their
own
bedroom.
A
quiet
place
to
study,
trees
and
green
spaces
too.
Strong.
Imagine
that,
from
her
perspective,
being
called
out
for
NIMBYism
made
to
feel
guilty
for
wanting
and
working
to
achieve
something.
This
developer
has
his
lawyers
and
architects
have,
and
most
of
us
in
this
room
have
and
imagine,
then,
the
impact
when
realizing
that,
as
the
only
person
of
color
on
the
block,
the
property
is
most
impacted
before
I
hand.
N
O
Name
is
Amanda
Harrigan,
Dale
and
I
live
at
29,
Clarence,
Avenue
intent
versus
impact
right.
My
husband
shared
a
portion
of
my
perspective.
I
want
to
be
clear
that
well,
there
may
be
a
lot
of
positive
intentions
in
granting
the
setback,
entitlement
and
I
use
that
word
very
intentionally.
We
as
a
collective
have
to
dig
deeper
on
the
nuanced
impacts
for
18
years,
I
lived
in
extreme
density,
seven
people
in
650
square
feet
overlooking
a
concrete
courtyard
and
other
seven
plus
storey
buildings
been
there
done.
That
is
this?
O
Like
me,
in
this
scenario,
however,
you
can
see
how
tenuous
this
aspiration
is:
a
white
developer,
supported
by
white,
powerful
lawyers
and
architects,
working
with
primarily
white
city
planning
staff,
all
with
good
intentions,
but
a
very
homogenous
perspective
who
gains
and
who
loses
in
this
case.
Well
in
this
instance,
it's
me
the
first-generation
mexican-american
well,
this
is
not
an
atypical
outcome
for
me
and
other
persons
of
color
as
a
result
of
the
engine
of
privilege
and
power
previously
mentioned
I
continued
to
ask
whether
or
not
there's
a
thoughtful
way
for
all
of
us
to
win.
O
I
want
to
stress
that
I'm
not
asking
you
to
stop
the
project,
I'm,
simply
asking
you
to
reverse
or
further
investigate
the
entitlement
around
the
rear
setback,
because
the
impact
is
great
in
so
many
ways,
I'm
more
than
welcome
a
solutions,
oriented
approach
that
is
grounded
in
multiple
perspectives.
Thank
you.
P
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Ken
mol
I
live
at
183
Seymour
Avenue
I've
been
in
the
neighborhood
for
15
years.
I
have
raised
two
children
there
I
can't
help,
but
want
to
contrast
this
project,
which
the
developer
says
has
been
designed
because
of
market
forces,
apparently
requiring
a
14
story.
Building
with
the
one
across
the
street,
the
mariette
proposed
extended
state
facility
at
five
or
six
stories,
not
requiring
any
setbacks,
exceptions
for
for
setbacks.
P
P
It
just
occurs
to
me
that
there,
if
Mariette,
can
make
a
make
money
at
five
stories,
why
can't
they
or
why
couldn't
they
offer
the
neighborhood
some
replacement
for
the
things
that
the
neighborhood
has
depended
on
from
that
arc
in
art,
art
and
architecture
site,
there's
no
space,
it's
all
I'm!
Sorry,
it
is
all
market
rate
housing,
the
city
and
the
neighborhoods
priority
is
lower
cost
housing.
There
is
none.
Why
are
they
not
offering
that
there
is
nothing?
P
17
story,
14
stories
and
I
don't
know.
Are
there
are
six
of
those
ten
feet?
Gonna
be
balconies,
I,
don't
know
we're
getting
nothing
out
of
this.
It's
apparently,
if
Mariette
can
make
up
prophet
five
stories,
they
can
make
a
huge
profit
at
14
stories
and
they're,
offering
nothing
in
exchange.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
Q
I'm
Devin
I
live
with
two
7:01
for
Street
southeast
I'm
here,
because
I
support
this
project.
As
far
as
project
cuz
allows
more
people
to
live
on
the
Green
Line,
also
changing
it
from
condos
apartments
increases
the
park,
dedication
fees,
so
we're
gonna
get
more
money
for
parks
near
us,
so
it
will
be
getting
us
some
things
more
parks,
so
that's
gonna
be
great.
More
people
in
the
Green
Line
tomorrow,
less
people
will
be
driving
over
65
degrees
in
an
article
on
Friday.
So
that
would
be
a
good
thing
and
yeah.
Q
A
R
R
He
Prospect
Park
is
kind
of
a
unique
neighborhood,
their
attorneys
for
Vermillion,
who
was
once
my
neighbor
made
the
comment
that
it's
very
rare
for
people
in
Prospect
Park
to
have
a
majority
of
anything
and
the
dramatic
change
that
took
place
with
the
change
in
the
project
created
the
situation
in
which
the
present
PPA
board
and
and
its
officers
had
a
challenge
to
bring
all
this
information
to
the
community.
They
did
an
excellent
job.
R
Councilmember
Gordon
was
there,
he
commented.
It
was
an
excellent
community
me
and
it
was
overwhelmingly
rejected
that
they
didn't
want
to
support
the
project.
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
about
the
negatives
which
had
been
made
aware
of,
but
I
already
need
a
comment
that
that
meeting
was
kind
of
shut
up.
He
wasn't
allowed
to
participate.
That's
where
I
draw
the
big
issue.
Our
chairman
of
the
land
use
committee
specifically
went
to
Ari
in
asked.
If
he
wanted
to
speak,
he
said
no.
S
R
Would
indicate
that
he
was
allowed
to
be
able
to
participate
and
speak,
but
he
told
you
he
wasn't.
It
was
a
very
open
meeting
all
were
welcomed.
You
just
had
to
sign
in
you
sat
down.
You
listened
to
the
discussion
in
which
already
said
nothing
you
so
I'm,
assuming
he
didn't
say
it
was
misrepresented
and
the
people
were
allowed
to
do
their
democracy.
R
T
T
Obviously,
when
I
was
back
when
I
was
president,
just
the
same
kind
of
thing
was
good.
There
are
some
emotional
aspects
to
this.
The
Land
Use
Committee
knew
it
was
an
important
site
and
commissioned
a
group
of
residents
and
tenants
in
the
architect
iron
architecture,
building
to
evaluate
the
project
and
come
back
with
recommendations.
They
held
eleven
public
meetings,
re
attended,
most
of
them.
One
meeting
had
over
160
people
added
at
the
textile
Center.
T
Of
course,
I
can
see
why
people
would
feel
strongly,
but
the
role
of
a
neighbor
Association
is
to
engage
the
whole
community,
we're
a
neighborhood
of
9,000
residents,
87
percent
renters,
30
percent
people
of
color.
There's
a
bigger
group
that
the
neighbor
associations
job
is
to
engage
and
that's
the
job
that
we
thought
we
did
and
I
think
we
did
it
very
well,
given
the
number
of
people
that
showed
up
at
our
meetings,
hundreds
so
I
think
all
of
those
issues
of
height
have
been
litigate
over
and
over
again
and
tonight.
T
The
most
important
piece
is
this:
twenty
eight
percent
increase
in
units.
It
is
very
disappointing
that
we
don't
have
condos
whether
or
not
as
market
forces
or
not,
but
the
job
of
an
uber
association
is
to
understand
the
broader
community
benefit
as
well,
and
it
has
not
been
talked
about
very
well
tonight,
so
the
20%
increase
in
units
translates
into
over
seventy
seven
thousand
dollars
in
more
park.
T
Dedication
fees,
I
wish
the
neighbor
Association
would
be
more
balanced
right
now
in
a
way
it
speaks,
and
eleven
percent
reduction
in
parking
meets
the
transit
goals
of
2040
and
it's
part
of
the
climate
solution
that
the
neighborhood
already
approved
and
there's
a
third
benefit.
They
did
eight
foot
height
reduction
that
does
fit
into
the
transit
ten,
so
the
2016
18
Prospect
Park
Board,
believes
strongly
that
the
proper
role
of
the
organization
was
to
engage
all
residents
in
the
one-point-two
first
square
mile
neighborhood
to
fully
understand
the
impacts
and
benefits
of
a
development
like
this.
T
A
U
U
U
U
This
project,
along
University
Avenue,
just
as
you
come
into
the
city
of
Minneapolis,
is
the
type
of
gateway
development
that
we
had
envisioned
in
our
drawings
that
we
showed
to
the
neighborhood
and
so
forth
that
we
ended
up
using
as
a
part
of
our
local
comp
plan
that
we
developed
in
2017
and
was
the
basis
of
our
support
for
the
2040
plan
of
the
city.
We
were
one
of
the
few
neighborhoods
who
really
liked
what
2040
was
going
to
bring
to
the
city
of
Minneapolis
into
our
area.
U
In
terms
of
the
developer,
we
have
had
a
very
good
working
relationship
previously
with
re
Peretz
I
was
chair
of
the
MOU
committee
for
a
Land,
Use,
Committee
and
I
was
a
board
member
at
that
time.
I
think
the
important
part
of
this
is
that
it's
just
an
increase
in
48
units.
It
keeps
the
basic
land
use
and
built
form
that
we
approved
as
a
part
of
the
2040
and
under
the
rules
of
the
city
in
terms
of
Planned
Unit
development.
It
can
very
Heights.
U
U
A
V
Seventy
six
Clarence,
Avenue,
southeast
and
I
think
I
Trump
everyone
here,
because
we
bought
our
house
in
1963
and
we're
still
in
the
same
house
and
I'm
aware
of
all
the
pressures
that
have
been
on
Clarence
Avenue
for
a
long
time
in
proposals
do
think
to
it
that
were
totally
destroyed.
I
totally
disagree
with
my
name,
because
one
of
the
things
we're
forgetting
about
is,
we
have
a
nationally-recognized
is
stark
built
a
building
there.
The
tower
is
recognized
by
the
Department
of
Interior
building.
V
This
building
really
is
going
to
take
from
the
many
and
give
to
the
field,
even
though
there
are
more
apartments
we.
This
is
something
that
is
really
the
like
I
kind
of
feel.
We
it's
a
lot
of
bait-and-switch
re
wood
and
says:
oh,
it
was
the
architecture
building
that
was
the
gem
of
the
neighborhood,
what
no
its
final
building,
but
the
tower
is
something
else
again:
we'll
never
be
able
to
replace
it.
This
project
could
be
built
without
destroying
the
view
of
the
tower,
and
everything
seems
to
have
done
been
done
to
forget
about
that.
V
You
know
we
can't
get
the
hpc
somehow
the
HPC
could
only
say
well
look
into
it.
Somehow
you
couldn't
get
an
environmental
impact
statement.
Somehow
you
and
also
you
know,
you're
really.
The
city
is
not
really
following
its
own
rules,
I'm
sure
you're,
all
aware,
with
the
Minneapolis
code
of
ordinance
of
five
five
30.2
50,
and
it's
very
brief.
It
says
in
general
to
the
extent
practical
sight
plant
minimize
the
blocking
of
views
of
important
elements
of
the
city,
such
as
parks
and
greenways,
significant
buildings
and
water
bodies.
V
Well,
if
that
isn't
a
significant
building,
I,
don't
know
what
is
and
it
should
be
preserved.
They
could
build
this
building
in
such
a
way
that
it
doesn't
do
this
and
there's
absolutely
no
reason
that
it
can't
also
there's
been
a
lot
of
stuff
people
who
once
thought
this
was
okay,
we're
told!
Well,
if
you
don't,
you
won't
have
a
seat
at
the
table,
so
you
won't
have
anything
to
say.
V
Well,
we
don't
have
a
seat
at
the
table
anyway,
because
it
seems
that
the
only
people
who
are
heard
of
right
now
are
the
planners
and
the
developer
and
the
report
that
said
no
harm
that
was
paid
for
by
the
developer.
You
know
how
it
is
you
you
know,
you
pick
your
your
your
person
and
they
give
you
what
they
want.
I'm
quite
aware
of
this
beside
being
a
long
term,
very
long
term,
resident
of
Prospect
Park
of
because
that
was
an
infant.
V
You
know
when
I
bought
my
house
I've
been
actually
devolved
involved
in
Neighborhood
Development
issues.
I
was
I've
been
president
vice
president
and
chair
of
the
land
use
and
zoning
committee.
Over
the
years,
I
have
a
master's
in
public
affairs
from
the
University
of
Minnesota
and
I've,
been
on
the
land
use
committee.
I've
been
on
a
number
of
things
and
I
really
feel
that
we're
doing
something.
Once
you
build
something
else,
whether
it's
condos
or
rental,
it
should
be
something
that
doesn't
destroy
the
view
of
the
tower
and
I.
Think
that's
simple
enough.
V
When
you
look
you're
on
the
tower
and
you
look
to
it,
you
can
see
from
you
can
see
st.
Paul,
you
can
see
Minneapolis,
you
see
this,
it's
wonderful
people
come
and
see
it.
So
why
can't
you
know?
Why
can't
we
respect
that
and
it
could
be
the
original
plan
by
the
way
was
for
six
to
eight
stories,
and
no
one
objected
to
that.
V
The
other
thing
that
really
amazes
me
that
says
in
the
report
went
into
the
planner
that
a
four-story
building
would
obscure
the
tower
just
as
much
as
this
14
plus
story
building
I,
don't
know
what
kind
of
mathematics
that
is,
but
there's
no
way
they
were
building
a
four-story
building.
Nobody
would
say
anything
if
they
were
building
six
dates,
something
that
didn't
destroy.
That
was
not
higher
than
the
platform
of
that
tower
and
it
was
built
to
be
a
viewing
tower.
V
It's
been
that
way
for
years,
and
it
should
continue
that
way
and
I
think
it
can
be
done
that
way
and
I
really
hope
that
you
will
help
us.
Do
it
that
way
and
just
look
at
the
ordinance
and
see
it
totally
contradicts
your
own
rules?
It's
not
a
good
idea
because
of
the
elected
officials.
Do
it,
you
know
it
doesn't
give
them.
It
doesn't
give
a
good
example
and
I
think
we
can
come
to
some
other
agreement
and
I
strongly
urge
you
to
do
that.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
W
Humber
broadcasting
has
been
operation
in
the
location
since
1946
in
1974
we
were
granted
for
granted
a
license
for
a
weather
radar,
and
currently
we
are
the
only
other
weather
radar
in
the
metro
area
outside
of
the
National
Weather
Service,
and
we
are
backup
for
the
National
Weather
Service,
a
huge
community
asset
importance
for
the
severe
weather
warning
and
we've
got
that
capability.
As
we
look
at
the
tower
now.
Is
it
the
current
plans
in
the
data?
W
We
don't
see
a
conflict
with
that
radar,
but
I
think
for
staff
and
for
the
Commission
understand
in
the
future.
If
we
go
high,
we're
gonna
end
up
blocking
and
we're
gonna
have
a
conflict
with
that
Isis
radar.
If
there
are
other
developments
of
extreme
height,
so
that's
all
I
have
to
say
just
heads
up
Thanks
thank.
X
My
name
is
David
Franco
that
for
date,
Clarence
Avenue
and
I'm,
a
Prospect
Park,
Association
board
member
I
support
the
2040
plan
and
I
support.
Increased
density
in
my
neighborhood,
but
I
opposed
this
amendment
to
increase
the
number
of
units,
because
it
does
so
by
significantly
decreasing
unit
size,
nearly
1/3
of
the
units
of
shrunk
from
1,400
square
feet
to
800
square
feet.
The
change
is
inconsistent
with
the
2040
plan
and
that
it
leaves
little
to
no
housing
for
families
policy.
One
access
to
housing
of
the
2040
plan
states.
X
Excuse
me
to
accommodate
families
and
new
and
rehabilitated
multifamily
units.
Our
neighborhood
negotiated
for
many
months
to
get
family
size
units
Vermillion
said
yes
and
signed
an
agreement
to
build
them.
It's
reasonable
to
ask
them
to
renegotiate.
Given
they
know,
law
provides
such
a
diverse
housing
mix.
This
change
has
serious
implications
for
our
neighborhood
I.
Encourage
you
to
pause
this
project.
Take
a
closer
look.
Housing
choice
is
particularly
critical,
near
transit
and
once
this
is
approved,
we've
eliminated
many
options.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
Thank.
A
Y
Live
at
49,
Arthur,
Avenue,
southeast
and
Prospect
Park.
The
question
before
us
is
really
related
just
to
the
number
of
units
and
I
think
there's
significant
benefits
from
allowing
more
people
to
live
near
Tower,
Hill,
Park,
great
urban
parks
are
activated
by
the
buildings
around
them
by
drawing
more
people
to
them
and
by
framing
the
park
around
them.
Y
I've
been
taking
photographs
of
the
tower
for
20
years
since
I
moved
to
Prospect
Park
and
the
truth
is
there's
very
few,
unobstructed
views
of
the
tower,
apart
from
right
in
front
of
it
and
right
down
by
prospect
by
Pratt
by
Pratt
School,
if
you're,
looking
where
the
building
is
sort
of
planned
to
be
that
view
is
obstructed
by
wires
if
you're
standing
at
the
Prospect
Park
light
rail
station.
But
you
wait
at
the
amount.
Y
Y
I've
been
visiting
the
park
and
taking
photos
of
the
new
buildings
they're
beautiful,
particularly
in
the
in
the
sunlight
in
the
winter
I,
expect
that
this
building
will
also
greatly
enhance
the
pipe
by
framing
it
by
activating
it
and
bringing
more
people
to
appreciate
the
the
gym
that
we
have
there.
Thank
you
thank.
A
F
Z
What's
shown
here
in
red
is:
is
the
existing
architecture
building
a
chunk
of
what
is
being
you
know?
We
saw
a
graphic
before
which
shows
a
significant
area
being
demolished,
which
should
not
disputing,
but
just
a
large
chunk
of
that
area
is
a
freight
run
and
a
sort
of
a
dilapidated
dock.
That
kind
of
sits
off
to
the
side
and
then
above
that
is
a
the
theater
which
is
not
really
part
of
the
structure
as
it
was
originally
built.
So
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
put
that
into
context.
Z
We've
worked
really
hard
to
reuse
as
much
of
the
existing
structure.
As
we
can,
it's
difficult
to.
You
know
work
with
existing
buildings,
but
we've
you
know,
we've
tried
to
preserve
the
most
important
character
of
the
building
and
so
I
think.
If
you
look
at
a
square
footage-wise,
it's
slightly
skewed
in
terms
of
just
the
total
square
footage
that's
taken
over
by
the
this
kind
of
dark
structure,
the
elevator
structure,
the
rooftop
structure,
but
we
are
preserving.
H
F
Z
Z
Well,
I
would
say
if
we
were
at
you
know
forty
percent
now
we're
at
you
know
or
thirty
thirty-five
to
forty
percent
we're
at
you
know
fifty
percent.
Now
it's
it's
fifteen
to
twenty
percent
increase
in
demolition.
All.
F
Right
and
then
I
have
questions
for
you,
so
real
quick.
What
is
the,
what
was
the
previous
unit
makes
count,
and
what
is
it
now
with
the
increase.
J
Internet
mix
itself
hasn't
changed,
we're
still
at
about
70
percent
studios
and
ones,
and
30
percent
twos
and
threes.
So
the
proportions
didn't
change.
Just
the
number
of
units
did
so
we
applied
roughly
the
same
proportion
of
apartment
units
that
we
had
in
the
non
tower
portions
to
the
tower.
When
we
converted
that
okay.
J
F
J
I'm
not
sure
that
there's
an
apartment
building
in
Minneapolis
that,
as
an
average
unit
size
of
1,400
square
feet,
so
we
write
size.
The
units
from
a
for
sale,
standard
to
a
rental
standard
and
the
size
of
the
rental
standards
are
significantly
smaller
than
the
for
sale
standard.
That's
where
the
increase
account
came
from
and
as
you've
seen,
the
building
itself
got
smaller.
We.
F
F
AA
J
F
Front
of
me,
okay
and
then
lastly,
one
of
the
couple
people
I
she
mentioned
previous
justification
for
14
stories
was
because
of
the
dedicated
condominium
breakdown
and
it
didn't
work
to
divvy
em
up
Michelson.
So
now
that
that
is
gone,
what
is
the
driving
factor,
but
ahead?
Is
it
just
you?
Don't
wanna
redesign
or
what's
the
deal
well.
J
J
We
have
to
deal
with
building
height
structural
system
limitations,
which
we've
already
maxed
out
on
all
the
other
portions
of
the
project
at
seven
storeys,
and
when
we
go
back
to
the
beginning,
when
you
know
various
folks
have
brought
up
the
fact
that
we
started
our
designs
in
early
2018
at
a
uniform
elevation
of
seven
storeys
that
was
not
well
received
in
the
community
that
was
not
well
received
at
our
task
force.
That
was
essentially
detoured
from
the
beginning.
J
You
cannot
do
seven
storeys
uniform
across
the
site,
because
it
will
look
like
this
big
block
wall.
You
need
to
break
it
up.
You
need
to
provide
all
these
relief
points,
and
in
doing
so
you
can
have
different
height
elements.
That's
where
it
came
from.
So
the
fact
that
we've
decided
to
put
the
condos
on
one
side
and
the
apartments
on
the
other
doesn't
really
impact
the
fundamental
reason
why
we
have
at
all
in
a
short
of
a
relatively
short
part.
So.
F
AB
I
AC
So
just
review:
this
is
a
pretty
narrow
consideration
that
we're
looking
at
today,
the
height
and
the
setbacks
were
previously
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission's.
The
main
question
is
about
the
additional
units,
the
pros
and
cons
to
that
you're.
The
con
is
that
there's
less
opportunity
for
for
home
homeownership,
but
the
pros
are,
as
others
have
mentioned,
that
more
people
will
be
able
to
live
close
to
the
light
rail
station
and
there
will
be
higher
education
fees
on
the
building
is
also
somewhat
shorter
than
it
was
originally
regarding
the
art
and
architecture.
Building.
AC
A
F
I
appreciate
all
the
testimony
we
had
today
actually
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
really
compelling
information
on
both
sides.
I
actually
find
myself
somewhat
feeling
a
little
bit
more
leave
to
find
a
little
more
breathing
room
compared
to
the
original
tower.
I
thought
it
was
really
large
and
it
did
impose
on
the
view
of
the
water
tower.
I
think
you
might
recall
that
from
my
previous
testimony,
when
this
is
over
here,
I
was
concerned
that
it
would
compete
from
the
horizon
line
with
the
view
of
that
iconic
structure.
F
That
being
said,
I
think
I
cannot
support
the
motion
as
it
stands,
I
actually
find
that
it
and
every
problem
with
a
couple
of
the
findings
some
finding
over
to
about
the
enjoyment
of
property
in
the
vicinity.
I
still
think
it's
awfully
close
and
I
think
the
earlier
justifications
I
do
remember
those
at
the
hearing
and
I
hearing
those
before
so
I
I,
don't
necessarily
know
if
they
still
stand,
but
particularly
finding
number
five
that
it's
consistent
with
the
applicable
policies
of
the
comp
plan.
F
I
just
want
to
say:
I
am
the
things
that
go
through
my
mind
in
terms
of
why
I
won't
support
this
right
now,
I,
don't
think
the
original
justification
is
valid,
I,
don't
I!
Think,
as
we
all
know,
we
can't
base
it
on
financial
concerns
alone,
and
the
construction
type
is
is
a
financially
driven
choice
made
by
the
developer.
That's
that's
not
something
we
can
fully
consider
as
the
be-all
end-all
of
why
we
allow
something
to
be
shorter
or
taller.
I
do
think
that
change
in
the
unit
size
is
compelling.
I'll
come
back
to
that.
F
I
find
the
demolition
testimony
that
one
of
the
speakers
mentioned
to
be
interesting,
although
I'm
not
sure
how
much
weight
we
gave
to
the
historic
value
of
the
art
Knox
ership
building
before
but
I
I
do
think
that
it
does
raise
raised
red
flags
and
concern
to
the
percentage
of
the
building
being
demolished
and
family
to
meet
our
definition
of
that.
But
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
more
units
does
not
equal
more
people.
F
So
I'm
not
sure
this
is
really
an
increase
in
density
as
much
it's
just
an
increase
in
housing
for
single
people
and
I.
Think
our
number
one
priority
in
terms
of
trying
to
create
more
affordability
for
housing
is
in
the
city.
As
for
families,
that's
our
number
one
area
where
we
are
failing
so
in
that
regard,
I
did
find
the
testimony
regarding
unit
size
to
be
particularly
compelling.
It's
actually
what
I
was
wondering
coming
into
the
hearing,
and
so
I
was
interested
to
find
out.
What
that
makes
would
be
I.
F
Think
800
square
feet
isn't
isn't
something
that
the
average
family
size
in
the
city
would
find
compelling.
H
A
C
B
All
right,
Sharon
commissioners,
the
project
at
the
Rio
and
Hiawatha,
is
a
conditional
use
permit
to
amend
previously
approved
pewdie
that
those
approvals
for
that
planning
and
development
have
lapsed.
The
applicant
is
proposing
a
mixed-use
building
at
the
intersection
of
30th
and
Hiawatha,
with
102
units
and
2,200
square
feet
of
commercial
space
at
the
intersection
positives
of
the
project
the
so
it
finished
a
project.
That's
10
years
in
the
making.
B
In
addition,
quality
landscape
plan
and
lighting
on
all
around
the
building
staffs
supportive
of
the
applications
that
have
been
applied
for
and
I'll
note
the
comments
that
were
in
the
packet
one,
a
letter
support
from
the
neighborhood,
aligning
that
the
applicant
of
tended
three
meetings.
Three
neighborhood
meetings
to
discuss
the
project
note
there
is
not
in
the
addendum
packet
a
letter
with
concerns
about
noise
in
the
area.
Definitely
the
building
enough
stuff
will
help
with
that.
B
In
some
ways
mitigate
the
amount
of
sound
traveling
and
then
not
in
the
packet,
but
a
phone
call
that
was
received
was
concerned
about
the
variance
for
the
unit
size.
There
there's
a
variance
to
apply,
but
those
apply
for
to
allow
for
one-bedroom
units
to
be
smaller
than
500
square
feet.
But
I
just
want
to
note
that
all
one
bedrooms
would
be
greater
than
400
square
feet
which
is
well
beyond
the
studio
minimum
size.
So
with
all
that,
I'm
happy
to
answer
questions
or
commissioners.
B
AD
AD
To
invite
a
lot
of
people
without
being
affordable
housing,
but
to
keep
it
on
a
low
rent,
which
is
why
you
guys
Aaron
was
talking
to
us
about
maybe
even
go
higher
on
density
and
go
taller
and
go
more
units.
But
the
developer
wanted
to
stay
four
stories,
so
we
can
keep
it
would
destruction,
would
construction
and
then
being
able
to
have
affordable
pricing
for
the
units.
So
that's
on
our
site
and
we
are
on
the
transit
right
between
the
Mall
of
America
and
downtown
on
the
blue
on
the
blue
lines.
AD
AA
H
AD
We
did
not
what
well,
then
you
have
to
do
podium,
concrete
podium
and
go
going
on
the
ground
and
get
more
units
will
have
to.
We
wanted
to
keep
it
at
50%
parking
because
of
because
of
the
the
light
rail
or
in
high-density
for
I
mean
high
transit
area.
So
to
do
that,
if
we
went
to
five-story
but
would
have
more
units,
meaning
more
parking
going
underground,
and
that
would
raise
this
construction
cost
and
then
there
goes
all
the
affordable.
AD
AD
AC
AD
Know
and
that's
that
these
are
the
comments
that
we
got
from
you
so
for
even
higher
density,
but
that
the
client
really
wanted
to
gear
this
building
towards
people
that
don't
have
cars,
don't
have
money
for
cars,
don't
you
know
and
want
the
smaller
units
and
to
keep
the
building
affordable.
For
for
that
purpose,
the
choice
was
to
keep
it
on
four
storeys.
Thank.
AC
A
AE
A
Four
applications
before
us
conditional
use,
permit
variance
variances,
one
of
which
is
withdrawn
and
sick
plan
review
any
further
discussion.
There
would
someone
like
the
latest
offer
the
motion.
AA
A
H
A
AB
Thank
you,
I
just
want
to
remind
us
all
that
we
saw
a
project
on
this
property
three
years
ago,
that
was
a
single
family
or
a
single
story,
commercial
bill,
a
parking
lot
that
we
struggled
with
in
decline
that
application
and
for
a
good
reason.
This
is
adjacent
to
the
metro
line,
and
this
is
the
kind
of
projects
we
want
to
see
it
adjacent
to
our
transits.
A
AF
Okay,
good
evening
this
is
Duffy
laughs
located
at
502,
528
Washington.
It
occupies
the
entire
block
along
Washington
Avenue
North,
between
fifth
and
sixth
avenue
x'
north
in
the
North
Loop
neighborhood,
that
the
site
is
zoned
before
n
and
also
looking
in
the
downtown
parking
overlay
district.
They
are
seeking
approval
tonight
for
three
land
use.
Applications.
AF
Without
so
some
ground-level
commercial
in
the
building,
surrounded
and
first-floor
commercial
I
should
say
the
site
is
located
in
both
the
national
historic
district
and
the
local
historic
district,
and
they
are
contributing
structures
to
both
of
those
districts.
We
have
we,
the
city
and
the
Heritage
Preservation
Commission,
did
review
this
development
on
January
21st
and
did
approve
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
rehabilitation
of
those
buildings
and
then
also
a
historic
variance
for
signage,
which
is
all
explained
in
the
staff
report.
Before
you.
AF
They
are
proposing
to
convert
the
buildings
into
188
dwelling
units
and
then
2,400
square
feet
of
ground
floor
commercial
space.
There
will
be
residential
amenity
uses
located
throughout
the
buildings,
the
commercials
kind
of
scattered
throughout
the
buildings.
All
of
the
buildings
are
currently
internally
connected,
and
so
one
can
move.
One
residence
can
move
from
one
end
to
the
other,
to
take
advantage
of
those
amenities
that
are
being
provided.
AF
There
will
be
118
parking
spaces
provided
on
the
site,
some
underground
and
within
the
buildings,
and
those
will
be
accessed
off
of
what
is
the
vacated
alley
to
the
north
and
then
also
the
surface
parking
lot
there
and
the
corner
of
5th
and
Washington
will
remain.
They
will
be
enhancing
the
parking
lot
with
landscaping
to
mate
chapter
5:30
standards,
but
those
parking
spaces
will
remain.
AF
If
you
all
recall
at
a
cow
meeting
one
or
two
years
ago,
because
we've
seen
several
proposals,
you
know
there
was
always
the
thought
that
a
building
would
go
in
that
site.
But
this
this
applicant
has
decided
not
to
build
anything
on
that
site
and
then
instead
use
it
for
the
existing
parking.
That
is
there.
I
am
going
to
conclude.
We
are
recommending
approval,
but
I
will
stand
for
questions.
Commissioners.
A
AC
AF
There
are
existing
loading
docks
in
the
building,
however,
to
balance
the
preservation
aspect
of
this
project
out,
a
lot
of
those
loading,
docks
are
being
converted
and
some
are
being
demolished
and
I
apologize.
If
that
wasn't
clear
in
this
report,
so
they
have
been
able
to
locate
one
loading
space
in
this
area
back
there.
They
do
also,
though,
have
use
of
this
alley.
There
is
a
hotel
that
fronts
2nd
Street
north,
but
that
vacated
alley
there
are
reciprocal
easements
between
the
property
owners
to
use
them.
AF
So
while
there
is
an
a
loading
space
wholly
on
this
property,
but
the
10
feet
width
by
25
feet
in
length,
there
is
space
here
for
loading
which
is
beneath
it,
which
is
how
the
building
has
operationally
been
used
in
the
past
and
because
of
that
reciprocal
easement,
but
it
doesn't
count
as
a
space
for
zoning
because
it's
not
wholly
on
their
property.
Thank.
C
AG
Thanks
commissioners
mark
Heffron
cedar
straight
1020,
West
Lawrence
in
Chicago
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
in
front
of
you.
Thank
you
for
having
us
we're
very
excited
about
this
project.
We
know
there
have
been
a
number
of
false
starts
with
these
buildings.
I
think
you
guys
have
seen
a
number
of
plans.
We
are
very
confident
in
what
we
have
currently
brought
to
you
here
today.
AG
I
may
have
misheard
you,
but
the
extent
of
retails
25,000
square
feet
throughout
the
development
or
right
around
3/4
to
25,000
square
feet,
maybe
heard
2,400
yeah
no
problem
and
and
the
apartment
brand.
We
think
it's
it's
a
it's
a
great
you
know.
Bringing
the
commercial
to
the
middle
of
North
Loop
is
is
to
us
a
positive,
and
we've
generally
heard
nothing
about
applause,
for
that.
The
buildings
are
also
challenged
with
a
lot
of
existing
conditions.
AG
All
three
are
very
unique
and-
and
we
think
that
we
have
found
a
program
and
a
product
that
works
amongst
the
three
of
them,
and
we
know
other
people
have
struggled
to
make
a
deal
work
at
the
other
day.
So
we
think
that,
across
the
board,
this
mixed-use
plan
is
highest
and
best
for
this.
For
those
three
buildings
and
we're
very
excited
to
be
in
front,
you
thanks
for
consideration.
Commissioners.
A
S
Hello,
my
name
is
Corinne
burns
and
I
am
a
property
owner,
kitty-corner,
401,
North,
2nd,
Street
and
I
fully
support
the
variance
to
have
the
reduced
size
of
the
units
and
I
support.
The
renovation
I
think
it's
a
great
project.
I
do
have
some
questions
that
make
me
I
just
need
some
answers
about
a
couple
of
things
in
terms
of
the
off
street
loading
on
the
plans.
A
AG
Thanks
for
the
pictures,
Joe
Brown,
BKB
group,
architects,
first
things:
first,
the
rooftop
is
getting
a
small
addition.
I'm
gonna
show
you
the
footprint
of
it
the
the
size.
The
addition,
the
height
of
the
addition,
has
been
heavily
scrutinized
by
the
State
Historical
Preservation
Group.
It
has
gotten
nothing
but
small
over
the
last
couple
of
months,
something
that
we
work
through
the
hpc
process
as
well.
What
is
left
of
that
rooftop
edition
will
simply
be
an
amenity
for
the
building.
It
will
not
be
a
bar,
that's
open
to
the
public
in
any
shape
or
form.
AG
We
do
intend
to
bring
all
the
trash
through
shoots
in
the
building
store
the
trash
in
the
building.
Do
it
all
internally
and
there'll,
be
a
program
for
you
know
wheeling
out
dumpsters,
for
when
there
are
trash
pickup
at
all,
that
will
be
eternal
to
our
building
and
there
won't
be
anything
that'll
sob
outside
Joe.
Do
you
want
to
yeah.
AG
I
definitely
want
to
address
the
question,
while
loading
I
believe
I
want
to
make
sure
we
we
talk
about
all
three
things
that
you
brought
up.
The
the
aler
alley
is
private
shared
between
the
Marriott
and
and
the
duffy
buildings
right
there.
The
current
structure
has,
in
its
eighth
foot
footprint
kind
of
protruding
from
the
back
of
the
building
the
current
loading
dock.
We're
demolishing
that's,
not
historic,
we're
demolishing
that
loading
dock,
which
provides
an
even
more
free
and
clear
kind
of
a
generous
private
alley
back.
AG
AG
If
people
for
some
reason
to
use
that
Alex
it
does
connect
between
fifth
and
sixth
I
think
you
could
still
easily
get
around
a
truck
once
you
remove
these
structures
that
protrude
significantly
in
the
alley
right
now
garbage
pickup
trucks
looking
back
there
to
this
day,
so
I
think
that
that
that
could
be
secondary
and
hopefully
something
that's
not
backing
up
in
the
street.
Washington's
busy
backing
up
on
256
thank.
A
H
H
A
AF
AF
There
are
also
four
variances
and
then
site
pond
review
required
for
the
project
three
of
those
variances,
our
setbacks,
one
from
thirty
second
one
from
forty
second
one
from
the
rear
for
the
transformer,
the
two
front
yards
30
second
and
forty
second-
are
both
for
the
building
and
then
there
is
another
one:
less
variance
for
the
drawing
unit
size
from
500
square
feet
to
461
square
feet
and
then
site
plan
review
for
the
new
30
unit.
Building.
AF
AF
So
the
site
is
the
future
land
use
for
the
site.
Is
urban
neighborhood
East
42nd
is
our
yeah.
Forty
second
excuse
me:
is
it
goods
and
services
corridor
and
then
the
built
firm
guidance
for
the
site
is
corridor.
Three,
the
rezoning
as
I
had
mentioned
is
from
our
1a
to
our
five
and
I'm
sorry.
This
map
is
very
yellow
on
your
screen,
the
adjacent
property
there's
a
house
and
then
a
commercial
building.
AF
Both
of
those
properties
are
zone
c1,
and
there
is
an
anode
further
down
40
seconds
straight
to
the
west
mm-hmm,
but
rezoning
the
site
from
the
r1
a
to
the
r5
would
allow
for
increased
housing
density,
which
is
a
comprehensive
plan
goal
for
the
city
of
Minneapolis.
It
also
supports
the
built
form
destructive
corridor,
3,
an
increasing
that
density,
and
so
we
are
recommending
approval
of
that
application.
AF
The
two
variances
that
are
required,
one
is
on
the
front
yard,
along
32nd,
Avenue
South.
The
district
requirement
is
15
feet,
however,
the
adjacent
property-
and
this
is
the
porch
that
is
discussed
in
the
staff
report.
The
front
of
the
house
is
here,
but
there
is
an
open
front
porch.
That
is
a
permitted
obstruction,
so
we
would
measure
to
the
setback
of
where
that
houses
or
the
front
wall
of
the
house,
not
the
front
wall
of
the
porch
I
should
say
so.
AF
They
are
seeking
a
variance
to
go
from
26
feet,
which
is
the
setback
of
the
house,
while
not
the
porch
wall
down
to
the
18
feet.
The
porch
is
20
feet
from
the
front
property
line,
and
so
there
is
a
differential
of
the
2
feet
from
the
front
of
the
porch
to
the
front
property
line
and
then
from
the
building
to
the
front
property
line
of
this
house
or
this
site.
Excuse
me
is
subject
to
two
front
yard
sub
X,
because
this
is
this
house
faces
40
seconds.
AF
So
there
are
two
front
yard
setbacks,
and
so
for
all
of
those
reasons
we
are
recommending
approval
of
the
front
yard
variance
down
from
26
down
to
18
feet
the
setback,
variance
that
is
needed
along
at
forty
second,
is
also
for
the
building.
Again,
the
requirement
is
15
feet.
This
house
is
four
feet
from
that
property
line
from
the
front
property
line.
The
proposed
setback.
AF
If
the
building
is
also
four
feet
feet,
there
is
an
alley
that
separates
the
two
properties
which
increases
that
distance
and
provides
greater
sight
lines
for
those
in
this
house
along
32nd.
For
those
reasons,
we
are
also
recommending
approval.
The
third
variance
of
setback,
then,
is
for
the
transformer
it
is
from
the
rear
yard.
It's
not
for
the
fence
itself,
because
the
fence
is
permitted
at
this
height
and
also
in
this
location
is
for
the
transformer
pad
itself.
That
requires
a
five
foot
setback
from
the
alley.
We
are
recommending
approval
down
to
two
feet.
AF
There
is
a
six
foot
tall
fence
along
this
property
line
that
is
shared
between
the
toon.
There
is
also
a
garage
again.
The
house
is
located
up
towards
32nd,
initially
that
that
transformer
was
sitting
closer
towards
the
the
residential
structure
on
the
adjacent
property
in
this
location,
and
we
did
talk
with
them
and
with
the
applicants
and
asked
them
to
move
it
back
of
their
building
and
back
towards
the
alley
to
really
reduce
any
impacts
that
it
would
have
on
the
adjacent
properties.
And
so
it
does
sit
in
that
location.
AF
H
AF
The
30
dwelling
units
16
of
them,
will
range
between
461
and
462
than
what
we
require
for
a
studio
or
an
efficiency
unit
of
350
square
feet.
We
are
recommending
approval
of
that
for
site
plan
review.
They
do
require
alternative
compliance,
one
for
pedestrian
access.
There
is
a
front
door
and
then
a
door
located
towards
the
alley.
There
is
a
walkway
that
takes
one
to
the
alley,
but
not
safely
to
a
public
sidewalk,
so
we
are
recommending
that
they
continue
the
sidewalk
on
their
property.
H
H
AF
AF
S
AF
AF
It
should
say
evergreen,
shrubs,
not
either
very
different,
so
we
are
adding
a
condition
that
they
and
and
louvre
that
ii
can
a
picture
that
they
add
eight
evergreen
shrubs
and
we're
hoping
for
ones
that
go
up,
but
we
are
not
specifying
that
specifically
and
then
also
additional
perennials
on
the
site,
so
those
are
the
and
then
they
also
work
with
staff
on
the
location,
the
landscaping
to
maybe
put
it
more
into
the
public
realm
versus
kind
of
towards
the
back
hidden
by
a
building
and
a
fence,
so
hope
hoping
to
do
that
with
the
applicant
after
or
once
they
move
into,
if
approved,
into
building
permit
process.
AB
AF
F
H
AF
AF
AI
Good
evening,
since
we
have
mr.
Michael
pink
with
Lake
Harriet
development
and
with
me
tonight
is
Scott
England
from
dgr
the
project,
architects.
We're
super
excited
about
this
30
unit
project.
It's
designed
to
be
affordable
for
people
making
six
hundred
seven
seventy
percent
ami.
We
do
a
lot
of
things
in
this
project
with
that
intent
in
mind.
That's
why
there's
no
elevator
in
this
building!
AJ
A
AE
Guys
were
laughing
at
me,
my
name
is
Daniel
is
clearly
you
know,
I,
don't
speak,
English,
really
good.
What
am
I
going
to
put
the
project
I
know
they're
excited
but
seems
to
me
it's
to
a
small
area
bring
in
30
units
they're,
not
building
a
parking
lot
over
there
I
mean
we
always
have
problem
with
a
parking
lot
over
there.
There
are
long
ring
three
more
people,
maybe
60
people,
and
there
they
told
me
that
most
of
the
renters
are
gonna
be
bikers,
which
I
highly
doubted.
AE
You
know
I
used
to
be
a
biker
myself,
but
as
I'm
getting
older
I'm
not
able
to
do
it
anymore.
Okay,
another
thing
I,
don't
like
about
this
project
is
I
used
to
live
in
Uptown
I
mean
close
to
Uptown.
That's
why
we
move
over
there
to
that
area,
because
there
is
more
residential
to
schools,
we're
really
close
to
it
and
I
don't
see
them
the
way.
I
see
it
they're
targeting
their
customers
is
like.
AE
AK
I
forget
lily
and
I
live
that
41:57
38
42nd,
Avenue,
32nd
Avenue
anyway,
I'm
Kitty
corner
to
the
location,
that's
being
discussed
and
thank
you
very
much.
I
have
lived
at
that
house
for
10
years.
My
parents
have
owned
it
for
35
years.
I
lived
there
also
30
years
ago,
so
I
have
seen
what's
happened
with
the
light
rail
being
added
in
and
I
understand,
there's
changes
and
it's
causing
that
says
the
one
object
one
thing
talked
about
was
the
38,
the
Avenue
enhance
and
Hiawatha
addition
of
apartments
so
I
understand.
AK
There's
these
apartments
needed
also
was
lucky
enough
to
grow
up
on
14th
in
Minnehaha
Parkway,
which
is
very
close
to
this
location.
This
location
that
is
putting
30
apartments
into
the
same
land
space.
As
my
duplex,
my
parents,
duplex.
It
is
one
mile
from
the
Mississippi
River
one
mile
from
Minnehaha
Falls
and
a
half
a
mile
from
Minnehaha
Parkway.
So
when
our
license
plates
say
explore
Minnesota
on
them
and
we
are
now
removing
all
nature
from
that
place
and
I
did
look
at
her
overhead
and
those
trees.
Yes
have
been
planted
recently.
AK
So
you
know
what
new
trees
look
like
in
Minneapolis
I,
guess
not
a
lot
of
leaves
that
would
be
removing
all
land
from
that
square
within
the
last
three
years.
One
block
away,
which
was
the
only
tree
of
this
size
in
that
area,
had
a
golden
a
bald
eagle
in
it
was
eating
something
that
it
won't
talk
about
it,
but
there
was
a
bald
eagle
right
there.
A
deer
ran
down
32nd
Avenue
that
same
year,
so
I
understand,
there's
pressure
pressures
to
put
families
in
this
area
and
I
echo.
AK
This
gentleman
in
regards
to
duplex
I
was
thinking
more
of
maybe
a
four-plex
there's
something
of
that
nature,
where
it's
designed
like
that,
you
I
just
don't
see
how
he
would
ever
put
30
units
in
that
space,
where
there's
no
parking
allowed
on
for
second
no
parking
for
30
second
there,
and
we
already
jammed
for
fur
cars
in
this
area.
So
I
just
am
opposed.
I
say
thank
you
for
hearing
me.
AK
AL
AL
This
piece
of
property
used
to
be
a
church
that
burnt,
but
it
was
a
daycare
center
as
well.
It's
a
small
church
that
the
neighbors
used
it's
a
very
small
piece
of
property.
It's
got
a
bus
stop
in
front
and
it's
a
40
foot
setback
for
the
sign
for
this
bus.
Stop
so
there'll
be
no
parking
out
in
front
of
this
building.
AL
The
bike
lane
is
on
the
inside
or
on
the
outside
of
where
anybody
could
park
pass
that
bus
stop
and
now
all
the
city
I
hate
to
say
it,
but
there,
when
they
plow
there
about
two
feet
from
the
curb
they
don't
like
to
plow
close
to
the
curb
anymore,
because
they
might
hurt
the
plow,
even
though
they
have
bump
irons
to
protect
so
anyway.
So
now
in
a
car
parks
there.
The
bike
lane
only
has
about
18
inches
and
that's
the
winter
time.
So
when
people
think
they're
gonna
bike
I
never
see
anybody.
AL
AL
Where
42nd
is
they
never
thought
about
the
traffic
situation
every
day,
I'm
not
kidding
you
every
day,
there's
two
blocks
of
traffic
at
four
o'clock
and
they
all
want
to
turn
on
31st
and
32nd
to
make
the
shortcut
to
cut
her
over
to
34th
Avenue,
it's
so
bad
I
probably
have
a
hundred
and
fifty
cars
at
least
a
day
and
the
buses
they
have
to
come
on,
43rd
to
get
to
34th
Avenue,
it's
so
bad.
You
can't
imagine
and
to
end
there,
and
if
you
think
people
are
gonna
take
the
bus
there.
AL
There
is
no
bus,
shelter
like
you
see
in
other
places
that
don't
even
have
an
apartment
building.
There
is
nothing
there,
so
people
can't
really
hardly
take
the
bus
from
that
location
in
parking.
Oh
you're
not
going
to
have
it
and
then
to
set
back
this
this
apartment,
building
next
to
that
house
on
the
north
side,
that's
a
brand
new
home-
they
just
built
it
and
to
have
this
thing
go
right
up
to
it.
AL
Oh
please
I
mean
that
is
that
is
bad,
and
then,
on
the
other
side,
where
they
have
this
pizza
place,
it's
called
Chris
and
Rob's.
They
have
a
problem
with
their
garbage
that
they
have
to
put
out
back
and
back
in
the
house,
it's
across
the
alley.
It's
so
bad
that
a
tree
caught
on
fire
from
all
the
grease
so
now
you're
going
to
help
apartment,
building
with
30
residents
and
they're
going
to
have
trash
and
rubbish,
and
all
that
scoop
and
they're
going
to
put
it
back
in
that
same
area.
AL
Where
there's
a
problem
right
now
and
all
the
rodents
holy
buckets
I
mean
it's
bad
right
now,
so
of
all
the
things
to
put
on
that
small
piece
of
property,
a
unit
of
that
size
and
then
to
ask
it
to
come
all
the
way
out
to
the
sidewalk
now,
where
they
going
to
put
the
snow
I,
can't
throw
I'm
not
supposed
to
throw
it
in
the
street.
I
got
to
blow
it
on
my
property.
AL
I
mean
that's
a
I
mean
that's
a
big
problem
and
when,
if
you
think
you
can
park
next
to
that
alley,
when
you
come
up
an
alley
and
you
want
to
make
a
turn
and
you
got
cars
all
the
way
back
from
Hiawatha
all
the
way
back
to
there
you're
going
to
be
sitting
and
waiting
and
then
there,
if
there's
a
car
parked
on
either
side
like
now,
you
need
a
setback
for
cars,
so
I
just
said:
I
think
it's
just
a
poor
idea.
That's
all
I,
don't
mind.
The
change.
AL
AL
AL
AM
AM
So
I
live
right
next
door
to
the
to
the
south
of
this
property
and
kind
of
echoing
I
guess
what
others
said
and
I
have
talked
to
my
neighbors
and
I
did
write
a
letter
which
was
in
the
packet
you
guys
got,
and
my
husband
and
I
did
write
that
so
you
know
for
us.
Obviously
we
we
did
buy
our
property.
Assuming
a
single-family
home
would
be
built
there.
We
were
not
gonna
buy
it
had
it
been
our
five
or
whatever
so
so.
AM
For
us,
it
does
I
mean
personally
for
our
family,
it
does
impact
the
noise,
our
enjoyment
of
our
property
privacy,
etc.
You
know
that
sort
of
thing,
but
a
concern
and
talking
to
neighbors
and
stuff
too,
is
that
we
are
in
school
walk
zones
right.
AM
The
large
concern
is
really
about
it's
not
if
this
unit
this
development
is
obviously
not
bringing
your
families,
they
are
very
small,
450
square
foot
units,
and
we
also
DJ
architecture,
also
is
building
that
one
on
Hiawatha.
You
could
talked
about
earlier
right.
That's
are
also
bringing
in
small
units
there's
a
couple
other
new
ones
being
built.
Not
you
know
not
even
a
mile
away
on
Minnehaha
nearby.
AM
There
are
also
small
units,
so
there's
not
a
lot
of
like
family
family,
friendly
developments
in
the
area
and
that
I
see
coming
I
haven't
really
heard
of
anything
coming
and
so
just
being
in
that
vicinity
of
schools
and
stuff.
It
feels
like
a
ripe
opportunity
to
build
something:
that's
for
families
we
all
like,
like
he
said
we
all
expected
something
to
go
there,
probably
a
four-plex
six,
eight
units,
something
like
that,
but
more
that
would
bring
in
families
to
our
neighborhoods.
AM
A
AN
AN
AN
AN
It
should
take
one
to
two
weeks
for
the
full
construction
of
the
building
to
be
done,
so
I
assume
that
there
will
be
a
poured
concrete
slab.
These
pieces
will
be
brought
in
lifted
by
crane
and
put
into
place,
so
this
building
is
just
squares
and
rectangles
squares
and
rectangles
does
not
fit
in
to
a
neighborhood
with
hundred-year-old
homes.
It
looks
like
something
from
a
Chicago
ghetto.
It
looks
very
cheap
it
again
the
colors
the
shape
does
not
fit.
AN
AN
So,
okay,
let's
just
say
that
this
room
is
my
neighborhood.
Everything
in
this
room
has
been
very
well
done
so
that
everything
goes
together.
It's
conducive.
It
is
an
old
building,
it's
keeping
its
character.
But
again,
this
is
in
our
imagination.
Let's
paint
this
mural
over
in
white
and
put
up
an
Andy
Warhol
soup
can
let's
paint
this
mural
over
and
we'll
put
in
a
Jackson,
Pollock
painting
and
let's
take
out
these
light
fixtures
and
hang
Alexander
Calder
Mobile's,
let's
paint
the
building
or
let's
paint
the
walls,
orange
and
yellow.
What
do
we
got?
AN
We've
got.
Something
that
does
not
fit
is
not
attractive.
Andy
Warhol
has
his
place.
Jackson
Pollock
has
his
place.
Alexander
Calder's
artwork
have
their
place,
but
in
this
environment
it
would
be
very
disturbing
and
it
would
not
add
or
enhance
to
this
building
or
this
room
and
I
guess
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
illustrate
this
building
is
extremely,
in
my
opinion,
ugly,
it's
a
sore
thumb.
It
does
not
fit
and
whoever
designed
the
building
if
they
call
themselves
an
architect,
I'd,
say
shame
on
you
because
you've
not
done
a
good
job.
AN
F
I'm,
actually
not
starting
out
with
a
motion
I
just
wanted
to
address
a
comment
that
you
made
sir
about
why
we
were
not
you
him
I
earlier.
It
was
actually
in
relief
of
the
fact
that
for
months
we
had
an
item
that
wasn't
contentious,
so
nothing
to
do
with
us.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
you
were
aware
of
that,
because
I
appreciate
that
you
came
down
here
to
testify
so
and
I
thought
you
made
some
really
good
point
so
anyway,
just
wanted
to
clear
that
up.
AC
AC
I
think
that
people
should
advocate
for
and
having
more
users,
who
will
be
the
net
nearby
will
help
build
the
case
for
that
in
regards
to
snowmobile
I
just
wanted
to
comment
that
if
there
was
a
duplex
at
this
location,
then
the
requirement
for
snow
removal
would
be
within
24
hours,
but
by
having
a
multi-unit
building.
The
requirement
for
snow
removal
is
that
the
snow
has
to
be
cleared
within
four
hours,
so
that
increases
the
snow
clearance
at
the
location,
which
I
think
is
especially
appropriate
around
corners.
A
AA
You
mister
president
I
just
wanted
to
respond
a
little
bit
to
the
the
comments
that
the
people
came
and
made
and
as
I
often
say,
I'm,
not
sure
this
would
make
any
difference
if
I
were
sitting
where
you
are
but
I
think
I'll
say
it
anyway.
AA
This
this
discussion
and
the
in
this
debate
that
we're
having
here
is
very
typical.
It's
the
first
time,
I've
heard
it
in
your
neighborhood
in
particular,
but
it's
been
happening
quite
a
bit
in
other
neighborhoods,
Marcy
Holmes
comes
to
mind
and
some
other
ones
and
Commissioner
Meyer
is
right
that
this
is.
AA
This
is
the
sort
of
thing
that
was
contemplated
in
the
2040
plan
and
I'll
be
voting
for
it
and
supporting
it,
but
I
very,
very
sympathetic
to
what
you're
saying
about
the
change
in
the
neighborhood,
but
a
couple
of
things:
we
don't
we
don't
make
our
decisions
based
on
taste
really
or
how
we
think
something
looks,
and
that
can
be
very
subjective.
That's
number
one
number
two,
the
parking
thing
I
mean
that's
going
away
everywhere
that
isn't
just
this
project,
where
you're
gonna
see
a
30
unit,
building
going
up
without
parking
I.
AA
Just
don't
want
you
to
feel
like
your
neighborhood
is
being
singled
out.
I
guess
you
know
when
you
sit
up
here
for
a
long
time,
you
see
a
lot
of
things
and
a
lot
of
trends
and
I
think
I
think
you're,
seeing
something
here
that
you
haven't.
You
haven't
seen
really
in
that
and
then
also
the
thing
about
unit
size
and
these
buildings
we've
heard
you
know,
some
meetings
have
things
that
kind
of
take
over
and
tonight
one
of
those
things
has
been
the
size
of
the
units.
AA
Should
they
be
one
bedrooms,
three
bedrooms
or
whatever
we
don't.
We
don't
control
that
here.
As
part
of
this
group,
we
can
make
suggestions,
we
can
recommend,
and
but
you
know,
on
some
level
you
can
have
a
parent
and
a
child
who
goes
to
school
in
a
one-bedroom
just
like
you
can
in
a
three-bedroom,
and
you
can
get
a
three-bedroom
that
has
three
adults
living
in
it.
So
I
mean
for
me
anyway.
AA
I
want
to
be
careful
about
generalizing
who
lives
in
the
places
that
we
build
and
that
lots
of
different
kinds
of
families
and
things
can
exist
in
different
spaces.
But
like
I
said
I'm
not
sure
it
would
make
any
difference
to
me
if
I
had
come
out
here
at
4:30,
and
this
was
going
up
on
my
corner
or
in
my
neighborhood.
But
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
and
I
and
I
don't
want
you
to
leave
here.
Feeling
like
you,
didn't,
get
hurt
or
listen
to.
AO
You'll
be
supporting
this
I
think
the
one
thing
I'd
like
to
just
kind
of
highlight
is
the
the
modular
build.
This
is
something
we'd
like
to
see
more
of
the
city
if
we're
talking
about
creating
more
affordable
housing,
the
one
thing
we
have
to
address
is
how
expensive
it
is
to
build
housing,
and
this
is
one
of
the
few
solutions
out
there.
Some
excited
to
see
a
project
like
this.
AP
Hi
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
Commissioner
Commissioner
Swezey
for
your
in
regards
to
who
lives
in
apartments
or
single-family
homes.
I
would
have
appreciated
if
it
had
been
row.
Houses
and
your
comments
in
regards
to
the
close
proximity
to
the
schools
is
something
that
does
mean
quite
a
deal
to
me.
F
I
I'll
actually
not
be
supporting
the
rezoning.
I
probably
would
have
supported
the
rest
place
and
rezoning
something
happen,
but
just
in
general
I
just
think
we
just
finished
a
comp
plan,
and
this
was
just
don't
do
something,
and
so
it
seems
a
little
weird
that
we're
already
like
we
thought
it
was
intended
for
something,
and
now
it's
intended
for
something
much
higher
in
you.
F
So
I
I
guess
I'm
a
little
bit
wondering
why
we're
changing
it
so
soon,
but,
more
importantly,
I
think
that
one
of
the
trade-offs
is
usually
when
we,
when
we've
discussed
years
ago,
the
elimination
of
parking
for
developers.
It
was
usually
to
offset
things
such
as
encouraging
and
increased
investment
in
quality
materials
in
design
or
to
result
in
significant
affordability,
increases
in
affordability
and
I.
Think
we're
seeing
at
times
and
projects
kind
of
the
worst
of
both
worlds
were
not
seeing
a
reinvestment
of
things
and
amenities
and
quality
spaces
for
people
living
there.
F
But
we
are
seeing
kind
of
a
it's,
also,
not
the
drastic,
radical,
affordable
housing.
That
would
that
would
that
we
wanted
to
see
there
so
I
kind
of
feel.
It's
it's
a
it's.
The
kind
of
our
handing
up.
We
handed
out
an
expectation
we
didn't
get
either
of
the
choices
so
I'm,
something
I
guess
want
to
say:
I
will
be
a
opposed
to
rezoning
and
I
would
ask
that
we
vote
on
that
separately
from
the
other
applications,
although
I
do
think
there
is
a
need
for
increased
density.
I.
F
Also,
concur
that
again,
as
I
said
earlier,
we
have
a
need
for
family
housing
for
families
and
well.
You
can
have
a
family
in
a
one-bedroom
400
some
square
foot
unit.
I
can't
really
say
that
it's
something
that
I
would
encourage
as
the
model
for
the
standard
of
living
want
to
have
for
our
citizens
in
the
city.
AB
Mr.
Khan,
sir
yeah
I
have
a
comment
and
a
question
for
staff.
My
comment
is,
you
know:
there's
a
hundred
year
old
apartment
building
built
just
like
this
around
the
corner
from
my
house.
It's
there's
no
parking.
It's
built
up
to
a
lot
line
similar
to
this
project
and
it's
it's
been
there
for
a
hundred
years
and
supported
a
strong
neighborhood,
a
dense,
neighborhood,
a
diversity
of
neighbors
and
that's
in
Whittier,
and
this
happens
to
be
an
inhibitor,
hasn't
seen
that
type
of
development.
AB
Yet
but
I
believe
this
is
the
future
of
the
2040
plan,
where
it
is
going
to
be
a
little
parking
and
more
housing
opportunities
across
the
entire
city.
So
I
will
be
supporting
this
I
do
have
a
question.
The
rezoning
is
really
in
in
regards
to
matching
the
quarter
three
comp
plan
designation.
Is
that
correct,
correct.
AF
I
should
clarify
this.
Is
this
with
the
adoption
on
the
2040
forum.
We
have
not
ruiz
owned
any
property,
as
a
result
of
that
we
have
new
built
form,
guidance
and
new
future
land-use
guidance,
but
we
have
not
come
through
and
rezone
the
city
to
match
those
built
from
districts
yet
so
that
is
on
there
on
the
horizon.
But
it
is
this:
isn't
we
aren't
changing
a
zoning
classification
tonight
that
we
just
changed.
A
G
H
H
G
A
H
A
Motion
care
that
motion
carries,
and
that
concludes
our
business
with
item
11
tonight
and
all
of
our
public
hearing
items
we
do
have
as
we
wrap
up
the
meeting
some
recognitions
of
our
fellow
commissioners,
Commissioner
cron,
sir.
It
has
been
a
member
of
this
commission
for
what
appears
to
be
just
an
appalling
number
of
land
use
applications
and
we
have
a
resolution
of
appreciation.
I'll
read
a
couple
highlights
here:
this
is
Commissioner
krauser.
A
His
last
hearing
ryan
has
served
on
the
city
of
minneapolis
Planning
Commission,
since
2011
as
participated
in
over
178
Planning
Commission
public
hearings.
That
does
not
include
committee
of
the
whole
making
decisions
and
recommend
a
on
over
3385
land
use
applications,
an
adoption
of
numerous
small
area
plans,
policy
plans,
text
amendments
and
so
forth.
A
The
city
of
Minneapolis
wishes
to
formally
recognize
Ryan's
dedicated
service
to
the
City,
Planning,
Commission
and
City,
and
now
therefore
be
it
resolved
by
the
City
Planning
Commission
and
the
staff
to
the
City
Planning
Commission,
and
that
we
thank
Bryan
concert
for
his
faithful
and
constructive
service
and
wish
him
the
best
going
on
words.
Thank
You
commissioner
project.
A
It
is,
it
is
also
the
final
hearing
of
a
sudden
able
to
join
us
today
of
Commissioner
Jean,
Coleman
and
I
want
to
recognize
Commissioner
Coleman's,
exemplary
service
to
this
commission
as
well.
Jean
participated
in
over
38
Planning
Commission
public
hearings,
making
decisions,
some
recommendations
on
929
land-use
applications,
which
is
impressive,
given
shorter
tenure
than
Commissioner
Khare
answers.
It's
a
high
density
of
land
use
applications.