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From YouTube: April 23, 2020 Zoning Board of Adjustment
Description
Minneapolis Zoning Board of Adjustment Meeting
https://lims.minneapolismn.gov/
A
B
Good
afternoon,
welcome
to
this
live
broadcast
of
a
virtual
meeting
of
the
Zoning
Board
of
Adjustment.
This
meeting
is
being
conducted
in
a
virtual
format
where
members
are
participating
via
telephone
or
other
electronic
means,
as
authorized
under
Minnesota
statutes,
section
1,
3,
D,
0,
2
1,
due
to
the
declared
local
health
pandemic.
We
will
now
introduce
chair
Perry
to
convene
this
meeting.
Thank.
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C
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D
C
C
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E
C
You
very
much
for
serving
let's
review
the
agenda.
I
will
read
the
agenda
number
and
address
of
the
project
and
state
whether
it's
slated
for
consent
or
discussion
and
I'll.
Just
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
these
things
are.
Consent
items
are
those
items
that
will
be
passed
without
discussion
by
the
board.
We
will
be
adhering
to
the
staff
recommendation
found
on
your
agenda
under
the
items
recommended
motion
section
and
importantly,
any
applicable
conditions
will
be
listed
in
the
same
section.
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C
If
you
have
any
questions
you
can
check
in
with
the
staff
and
we're
signed
to
that
item,
and
they
can
answer
those
questions
that
you
might
have.
If
you
disagree
with
the
recommendation
for
consent,
please
indicate
you'd
like
to
speak
against
that
item
when
I
ask
and
we'll
put
it
on
the
discussion
agenda.
C
So
what
our
discussion
items
these
are
items
for
which
the
board
will
take
public
testimony
deliberate
on
and
then
make
a
decision
after
the
public.
Testimony
has
been
heard
for
each
particular
discussion
item.
I
will
so
public
hearing
for
that
agenda
item
once
I
closed
the
public
hearing
for
an
item,
no
additional
public
testimony
will
be
taken,
but
staff
may
be
asked
to
address
board
questions
after
the
public
hearing.
For
item
is
closed.
Board
members
will
then
discuss
and
act
on
motions
and
the
chair
only
votes
in
the
case
of
a
time.
C
So,
let's
review
our
land
use,
we
costs
on
today's
agenda
agenda.
Item
number
5
is
50
56
45
DuPont
Avenue
south,
and
this
is
a
discussion
item
agenda
item
number
6
is
3800.
144Th
Avenue
South
staff
is
recommending
this
item
for
consent.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
queue
who
would
like
to
speak
against
this
item?.
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B
I
Thank
you
clerk
for
for
clarifying
I'll
begin
by
providing
a
little
bit
of
context
for
the
property
while
those
are
being
brought
up.
This
request
is
for
a
variance
to
reduce
the
required
corner
side
yard
from
8
feet
to
4
feet
for
construction
of
a
rear
deck
at
5645
du
Pont,
Avenue
south,
and
there
is
an
existing
deck
on
and
there's
a
slide.
Thank
you.
I
Thank
you.
So
this
is
a
survey
provided
by
the
applicant
showing
the
existing
property.
There
is
a
exist,
existing
single-family
dwelling,
as
well
as
a
detached
garage
and
an
existing
roof
deck
that
is
approximately
206
square
feet
and
that
existing
deck
is
located
approximately
10
feet
from
the
corner
side
lot
line
along
57th
Street
West.
Could
we
advance
to
the
next
slide?
Please
and
I
think
we'll
stay
here
for
the
rest
of
the
presentation
of
my
presentation.
I
The
this
is
a
proposed
site
planning
and
some
detailed
deck
plans
for
a
proposed
replacement
and
expansion
of
that
existing
deck.
The
total
new
deck
would
be
approximately
580
square
feet
and
has
a
proposed
setback
of
4
feet
from
the
corner
side.
Watt
line
at
its
closest
point
I'll
provide
some
additional
context
in
the
zoning
code.
Decks
and
ground
level.
Patios
may
be
a
permitted
obstruction
within
a
required
corner
side
yard,
provided
that
they
are
located
no
more
than
four
feet
within
that
required
yard
and
that
the
total
deck
does
not
exceed
50
square
feet.
I
Now
the
applicants
proposal
in
this
case
does
not
meet
that
requirement
that
it
be
limited
to
a
maximum
size
of
50
square
feet
total.
Therefore,
the
variance
is
required
to
reduce
that
corner
side.
Setback
in
this
case
I'll
transition
to
talking
about
the
required
findings,
the
first
finding
regarding
practical
difficulties
due
to
circumstances
unique
to
the
property
staff,
finds
that
this
is
not
met.
The
subject
property
and
the
house
itself
on
the
property
are
both
fairly
typical
in
size
and
location.
G
Yeah
Thank
You
mr.
chair
and
mr.
Koh
Haas
I,
just
have
one
quick
question:
I
think
the
lower
left,
I
believe
southwest
corner
the
deck
shows
a
stairway
going
up
to
the
deck
wood
that
stairway
and
some
kind
of
landing,
be
a
permitted
obstruction
or
with
the
entire
structure,
need
to
be
conforming
to
the
set
to
the
setback.
J
I
You,
chair
Berrien,
what
number
Sandburg
I
believe
that
the
entire,
because
the
stairs
would
be
attached
to
the
deck
it
is
considered
part
of
that
deck
as
well,
and
while
there
are
separate
requirements
and
conditions
for
permitted
obstructions
if
it
was
just
a
landing
and
stairs
in
this
case,
because
it
is
part
of
the
overall
deck
structure,
I
believe
it's
subject
to
the
requirements
for
a
deck.
I.
A
Chair
perry,
this
is
Brad
Ellis
manager,
Zoning,
Administration
I,
do
want
to
jump
in
and
make
a
point
here
on
Alex's
point.
We
would
treat
a
tiny
landing
and
steps
to
the
deck
as
a
separate
permitted
obstruction
so
that
the
trouble
is
so
wouldn't
need,
like
a
separate
variance,
I
guess
what
I'm
first
I
hope
that
answered
the
question.
G
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A
J
This
is
Vicki
Olsen
I
live
at
5645
to
contact
myself,
so
I
first
wanted
to
say
to
chair
Perry
and
board
members.
I
I
work
in
health
care,
so
I
commend
you
on
figuring
out
a
way
to
do
these
public
hearings
in
a
different
way.
So
congratulations
on
that
I
said
in
on
the
left.
Hearing
also
I
wanted
to
first
address
the
practical
difficulties.
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J
J
Yes,
so
the
air
conditioner
I
was
trying
to
show,
in
the
yard
kind
of
the
location
of
it
to
me,
felt
like
a
practical
difficulty.
I
have
grandchildren
where
there
are
two
and
four
and
another
one
on
the
way.
So
building
a
deck
around
us
air
conditioners
felt
like
a
safety
issue,
not
to
mention
the
noise
was
not
really
conducive
for
building
that
deck.
J
The
other
issue
is,
if
you
look
at
the
basement
picture,
I
have
efflorescence
and
known
moisture
issues,
and
so
I
have
work
to
do
a
French
drain.
I've
raised
window
wells,
I've
added
gutters
on
my
garage
and
was
recommended
that
I
addressed
through
landscaping,
so
I
did
have
a
third
try,
yeah,
that's
it
of
the
plan
that
I
have
landscaping
plan
for
grading
and
landscaping
in
that
corner.
That's
lowest
kind
of
area,
so
the
water
comes
down
the
hill
kind
of
hits
my
house.
J
So
the
issue
is
how
to
get
it
around
my
house,
so
it
was
actually
scheduled,
last
fall,
but
because
of
the
wet
fall,
I
got
to
delayed
until
the
spring,
so
it
doesn't
seem
prudent
to
build
a
deck
and
complicate
the
moisture
issue
by
expanding
the
deck
to
that
side
of
the
yard.
So
those
are
the
two
main
reasons
why
I
thought
there
was
practical
difficulty
in
building
to
the
north
side.
J
My
proposed
Syrians
have
been
modified
to
minimize
the
amount
of
the
variance
requested
I
over
the
last
five
years
done.
A
lot
of
improvements
and
my
property
was
a
remodeling
rough
replacement
and
energy
efficient
furnace,
a
sliding
glass
door,
and
now
my
intention
was
to
replace
the
deck
which
is
lagging.
J
The
current
deck
is
not
big
enough
for
a
medium-sized
table
for
six
years,
and
so
I
was
expanding
to
the
east
a
little
bit
because
of
this,
so
the
table
could
be
put
sideways
and
then
my
intent
was
to
be
able
to
have
some
space
to
put
some
lounge
chairs
on
the
south
side
of
the
sunroom,
so
that
I
could
move
around
to
the
grill
and
table
areas.
So
in
that
area,
I
planned
access
from
the
natural
walkway
from
the
kitchen
door.
D
J
So
I
felt
this
was
a
reasonable
request,
particularly
living
in
this
area,
for
some
time.
So
that
was
the
other
picture,
so
they
wanted
to
show
you
hard
for
me
to
tell
because
of
the
way
exactly
where
you
are,
but
maybe
you've
already
looked
through
the
mall
here,
but
the
first,
the
first
page
just
had
the
pergola
it
was.
You
know,
so
these
are
things
that
are
clearly
not
within
the
variance
about
being
10
put
in
10
feet.
J
When
you
add
the
2
feet
for
it
for
the
lot
property
lot
line
from
the
sidewalk,
so
in
example,
of
the
pergola
on
that
same
page
was
a
concrete
pad,
which
was
probably
the
most
similar
to
what
mine
would
look
like
and
being
a
low
deck
has
four
lawn
chairs
on
it
and
so-
and
it
certainly
was
not.
It
also
was
not
within
the
variance
says
there
were
just
some
other
structures,
so
you
know
playground
equipment
that
was
quite
tall
was
closed,
close
to
the
fence.
J
So
obviously,
when
the
variance
the
souther
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
tool
shed
or
whatever
it
is,
there's
a
neighbor
starting,
a
vegetable
garden.
You
know
so
when
we
talk
about
separate
uses
of
property
and
having
some
separation
in
the
whole
front
area
of
one
side
of
their
front
is
going
to
be
some
kind
of
garden,
and
then
you
can
see
the
waterfall
is
clearly
including
a
variance
in
that
that
fence
is
actually
on
the
sidewalk
and
then
a
couple
on
the
next
page
couple.
K
J
The
other
deck
that
goes
to
defense,
so
it's
it's
right
up
against
the
fence
and
then
another
patio,
that's
right
up
against
the
sidewalk,
so
is
clearly
additional
variance.
So
I
think
that's
why
I
was
a
little
bit
surprised,
but
I
have
learned
on
the
very
last
page,
just
a
couple
examples
of
what
I
seen
more
frequently
as
tall
fences,
so
example
of
a
tall
fence
as
well
as
retaining
wall
was
a
tall
fence
on
top
of
it.
I
did
just
a
little
survey.
J
J
So
when
we
talk
about
ensuring
access
to
light
in
air,
it
feels
like
you
know
the
deck
that
I
have
planned
as
much
more
is
low.
So
there's
no
issue
there
in
access
to
the
light
and
air
and
I
think
a
lot
of
the
high
fences.
It's
not
clear
what
is
exactly
on
the
other
side
of
them,
but
so
in
summary,
I
just
wanted
to
say
in
terms
of
orderly
development,
I
put
a
lot
of
thought
into
the
landscaping
planning.
K
H
J
And
the
intent
of
replacing
the
deck
is
to
make
it
look
contiguous
and
very
in
and
high
quality
in
terms
of
it
being
a
feeder
death
already
addressed,
centering
access
to
light
and
air
I,
don't
think,
is
an
issue
and
then
providing
separation
between
the
uses
and
structures.
That
would
still
be
six
feet
between
the
sidewalk
and
myself
and
the
deck.
J
C
And
please
stay
in
line.
There
may
be
questions
that
we
have
from
the
board.
I
want
to
make
one
clarification:
I
misspoke,
we
did
get
all
of
your
slides.
There
was
more
than
just
two
and
they
were
presented
on
the
screen
of
the
board,
as
you
were
talking
making
their
presentation
so
we've
seen
those
and
I
also
wanted
to
bring
up
the
fact
that
when
you
are
wandering
around
the
neighborhood,
as
we
will
do
when
we're
trying
to
do
a
project
like
this,
you
may
be
coming
across
things
that
are
non-conforming
and
not
legal.
C
So
our
focus
is
really
on
your
property
and
what
is
legal
and
what
is
non,
conforming
and
needs
and
variants.
So
the
other
appreciate
you
giving
sort
of
a
the
flavor
of
what
you
saw,
but
we
don't
really
know
the
status
of
what
those
fences
are
and
how
close
they
are
to
the
the
property,
the
record,
how
far
they
are
into
the
required
yard
and
so
forth.
We
just
don't
know
that,
but
thank
you
for
sharing
those
with
us.
So
there
are
questions
of
Miss
Olsen.
K
Thank
You
chair
Perry,
thanks
missiles
for
for
your
presentation
here.
I
just
have
a
question
looking
at
the
plans,
you've
brought
up
some
concerns
over
water
retention,
specifically
to
the
north
side
of
the
property.
Looking
at
the
plans
here,
looking
at
pages
page
10
of
the
of
the
packet
there's
a
it
mentions,
a
retaining
wall
on
the
east
look
would
be
the
east
side
of
the
property
and
the
east
side
of
both
the
existing
deck
as
well
as
would
be
on
the
east
side
of
the
proposed
addition.
K
J
Yes,
so
that
the
intent
was,
that
would
be
where
I
would
put
a
table
so
expanding
the
deck
right
now,
there's
not
enough
room
to
move
between
the
grill
and
to
get
out
of
the
house
and
around
to
the
sidewalk
with
having
a
medium
sized
table,
and
so
the
intent
was.
The
deck
would
expand
to
that
east
side
and
I
would
turn
the
tables
so
that
it
would
be
length
wise.
J
K
Got
it
God
so
then,
just
for
a
point
of
clarification,
you're
just
saying
the
usefulness
of
the
desk,
the
deck
would
allow
for
it
to
be
expanded
to
that
retaining
wall
at
the
east
and
that
essentially
is
kind
of
a
stopping
point
for
its
farthest
expansion
to
to
that
to
that
portion
of
the
property
correct
great.
Thank
you.
C
C
C
H
Seems
to
me
that
there's
there's
a
moisture
issue
on
the
north
side
and
from
the
appearance
and
the
photographs.
That's
where
the
air
conditioning
unit
is
is
located
as
well,
which
was
brought
up
by
the
applicant.
The
location
of
a
air
conditioner
is
my
understanding.
Having
talked
with
people
in
the
business
is
that
the
a
the
best
place
to
locate
is
on
the
north
side
in
the
shade,
so
it
doesn't
get
direct
Sun.
H
So
it's
the
air
conditioning
unit
appears
to
be
located
in
an
optimal
place
and
there
is
also
a
issue
with
with
water
on
the
north
side.
So
it's
easy
to
see
why
the
applicant
gravitated
towards
the
location
that
was
suggested
but
I'd
like
to
hear
a
further
comment
from
my
fellow
board
members.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
C
L
Thank
You,
chair,
Perry
I
agree
with
the
board
member
softly,
if
you
like,
with
the
deck
so
close
to
the
sidewalk
and
the
change
in
elevation
that
it'll
be
kind
of
odd
and
intimidating
and
I
do
feel
like
there's
areas
where
the
deck
could
grow
and
not
impede
into
this
kind
of
side,
front
yard
area.
Thanks
thanks.
G
C
C
G
C
With
that,
the
the
variance
request
is
denied
mrs.
Olsen.
You
can
talk
to
the
staff
person.
You've
been
working
with
mr.
Cole
us
to
talk
about
what
your
your
options
are
going
forward
and
appreciate
you
being
on
the
phone
and
giving
your
presentation
today
with
that.
Is
there
any
old
business?
Does
anybody
have
any
old
business
Sony
new
business
I'm,
seeing
none,
and
so
if
there
are
no
objections,
I
will
adjourn
today's
meeting
of
the
Zoning
Board
of
Adjustment.