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B
Good
afternoon
welcome
to
the
regular
meeting
of
the
business
inspections
and
housing
and
zoning
committee
for
today
november
17
2020.,
I'm
lisa
goodman
and
I'm
chairing
the
committee
today,
as
we
begin
I'll
know
for
the
record
that
this
meeting
has
remote
participation
by
members
of
the
city,
council
and
city
staff.
This
is
authorized
under
minnesota
statute,
13d
.021
as
a
result
of
the
declared
local
public
health
emergency
at
this
time,
I'll
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
role,
so
we
can
verify
a
quorum
for
this
meeting
council.
D
B
Presidents,
let
the
record
reflect
that
we
have
a
quorum.
The
agenda
for
today's
meeting
is
in
front
of
us
I'll
begin
with
the
consent
agenda,
which
includes
items
9
through
29
on
the
agenda.
I'll
also
include
item
30
under
receive
and
file
item
number.
Nine.
Are
the
liquor
license
approvals
and
item
number
10?
Are
the
gambling
license
approvals?
Although
the
gambling
license
approval
is
for
edison,
community
and
sports
foundation
and
the
liquor
license?
B
Approvals
are
for
arbiter,
brewing
company
casa,
maria
famous
daves
and
one
fermentary
taproom
item
number
eleven
are
licensed
operating
conditions
for
the
rental
dwelling
license
at
3401,
03
17th
avenue
south
in
the
9th
ward
item.
12
is
a
bid
for
plumbing
services
for
rental
properties.
Item
13
is
a
carry
forward
of
year.
2020's
tax
exempt
housing
revenue
bonds.
Item
14
is
an
affordable
affordability,
housing
loan
with
people
serving
people.
This
is
authorizing
the
forgiveness
of
accrued
interest.
B
Item
number
15
are
exclusive
development
rights
for
an
extension
at
snelling
yards,
which
is
at
3601
east
44th
street
item.
16
is
a
contract
amendment
with
river
services
for
the
upper
harbor
terminal
property
management
services
on
a
month-to-month
basis?
Item
17
is
an
agreement
with
the
met
council
to
place
a
bus,
shelter
at
2103
west
broadway
item
18
is
approving
an
emergency
solutions,
grant
capital
funding
recommendation
for
st
anne's
place
on
russell
by
ascension
place.
Item
19
is
an
affordable
housing
trust
fund
appropriation.
B
This
is
authorizing
a
one-time
appropriation
of
about
1.6
million
of
2020
cdbg
money
to
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund
item
number
20
is
the
eaw
for
21
north
washington,
formerly
known
as
240
hennepin.
This
is
declaring
it
adequate
the
eaw
adequate
and
and
approving
the
determination
that
an
eis
is
not
required.
Item
21
is
a
rezoning
on
behalf
of
norway
house.
This
is
at
907.
B
B
Item
24
is
a
resolution
recognizing
the
community-led
process
for
cultural
and
economic
recovery
at
minnehaha
and
east
lake
street
item
25
6,
7,
eight
and
nine
are
all
land
sales
item
30
is
receiving
and
filing
the
2020
third
quarter
report
for
stable
homes,
stable
schools,
I'll
note
that
we
will
have
a
actual
report
on
the
quarter
four
year
end
report,
but
not
today,
is
there
any
discussion
on
the
consent
agenda
or
the
receive
and
file
portions
of
the
agenda
or
any
items.
Anyone
would
like
to
pull
off
for
further
discussion.
A
E
B
Those
items
have
been
approved
well
now
moved
on
to
the
joint
public
hearing
with
the
mcda
operating
committee
for
item
number,
one
as
background.
The
mcda
operating
committee
was
the
city's
development
agency
from
1981
until
the
formation
of
cpad
in
2003.
It
still
exists
as
a
separate
legal
entity
for
certain
limited
purposes.
A
small
number
of
cpad
items,
primarily
bank
qualified
bank
direct
tax
exempt
501c3
revenue,
bonds
and
mcda
mcda
own
assets
require
approval
by
the
mcda
board
of
commissioners.
B
In
addition
to
city
council
approval,
the
city
council
serves
as
the
mcda
board
of
commissioners,
the
mcda
operating
committee
comprised
of
members
of
this
committee.
The
biz
committee
considers
items
prior
to
the
mca,
mcda
board
action
and
item
number.
One
is
a
joint
public
hearing
of
the
biz
committee
and
the
mcda
operating
committee.
With
that
I'll
ask
staff
to
give
a
presentation
on
item
number
one
which
is
a
bond
issuance
for
de
la
salle,
high
school.
F
F
F
B
B
G
With
that,
there
are
no
speakers
signed
registered
friday.
One.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I'm
going
to
then
close
the
public
hearing
saying
that
there
are
no
further
speakers
and
call
on
council
member
ellison.
B
C
J
C
J
J
K
B
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
committee
members.
I'm
enrique
velazquez
manager
of
licenses
and
consumer
services
presenting
an
application
from
tower
hotel,
operated
by
oxford
hotels
and
resorts.
Llc
rand
tower
hotel
is
located
at
527
marquette
avenue
south
in
ward
7,
and
this
report
was
prepared
by
inspector
michelle
harvat.
E
The
applicant
requests
an
on
sale
liquor
with
sunday
sales
general
entertainment
license,
as
well
as
a
hotel,
license
grand
tower
hotel,
is
in
the
newly
remodeled
rand
tower
building
and
will
have
270
guest
rooms,
indoor
seating
for
270,
patrons
between
the
first
floor
lounge
and
the
fifth
floor.
Restaurant
the
fifth
floor.
Open
air
terrace
will
provide
additional
outdoor
seating
for
40
patrons
the
proposed
hours
of
operation
are
6
30
a.m
to
2
30
a.m.
Daily.
E
On
october,
26
41
public
hearing
notices
were
sent
to
property
owners
within
458
feet
of
the
premises.
They
were
also
sent
to
the
downtown
minneapolis
neighborhood
association,
the
warehouse
district
business
association
and
councilmember
goodman
notices
were
posted
at
the
rent
tower
hotel
and
surrounding
multi-residential
buildings.
We
received
one
response
to
the
public
hearing
announcement,
which
is
in
support
of
the
application
licenses
and
consumer
services.
Division
recommends
approval
of
an
on-sale
liquor
with
sunday
sales,
general
entertainment
license
and
hotel
license
for
rand
tower
hotel.
B
G
L
B
J
D
C
D
M
N
C
N
B
O
Good
afternoon,
chair,
goodman
council
members
item
number
three
on
today's
agenda
is
for
an
interim
use
permit
in
lieu
of
a
conditional
use
permit
to
allow
for
an
overnight
shelter
accessory
to
an
existing
place
of
assembly
located
at
697
13th
avenue
northeast
it's
located
at
the
north
west
corner
of
monroe
and
13th
avenue
northeast
just
north
of
logan
park.
O
The
subject
property
is
I'm
sorry
next
slide,
please
the
subject.
Property
is
located
or
I'm
sorry
is
zoned
r2b
to
family
district.
An
overnight
shelter
is
allowed
with
a
conditional
use
permit
when
accessory
to
a
place
of
assembly
in
lieu
of
applying
for
a
conditional
use.
Permit
an
applicant
can
seek
an
interim
use
permit
to
allow
for
a
maximum
duration
of
that
interim
use
permit.
O
O
Staff
has
received
a
number
of
public
comments
regarding
this
proposed
interim
use
permit
and
they
have
been
included
in
the
public
record
for
today's
meeting
staff
is
recommending
approval
with
two
findings.
There
was
a
memorandum
prepared
earlier
today
for
your
consideration
to
to
clarify
and
staff
is
making
the
recommendation
based
on
the
following
findings.
O
The
space
that
you
can
see
before
you
in
the
floor
plan
was
inspected
by
our
fire
inspection
services
colleague
brad
schmoll
recently,
and
he
identified
that
the
space
where
occupants
would
be
staying
overnight
does
have
both
a
sprinkler
and
a
fire
suppression
system
and
presently,
oh
and
the
applicant,
has
also
been
meeting
with
the
department
of
health
to
comply
with
covid
requirements
to
ensure
on-site
compliance.
O
Shelter
guests
will
have
overnight
accommodations
in
the
existing
building.
In
our
understanding
from
the
applicant,
dr
whitley,
they
will
transfer
to
another
nearby
church
as
a
date,
shelter
which
would
provide
space
activity
and
programs.
Therefore,
staff
finds
that
the
proposed
overnight
shelter
would
comply
with
this
finding,
as
long
as
it
meets
the
applicable
building
codes
and
housing
maintenance
ordinances.
O
Further
staff
finds
that
the
proposed
overnight
shelter
will
not
be
injurious
to
the
use
and
enjoyment
of
other
property
in
the
vicinity
and
not
impede
on
the
normal
and
orderly
development
and
improvement
for
surrounding
property.
The
shelter
occupants
were
previously
occupying
the
logan
park
encampment
and
are
now
going
to
be
housed
within
an
existing
building.
O
Staff
finds
that
adequate
utilities,
access
roads,
drainage
and
necessary,
necessary
facilities
have
been
provided.
If
approved,
the
the
shelter
would
have
to
be
evaluated
for
residential
occupancy.
It
may
require
building
permits
to
address
any
egress
or
the
fire
suppression
has
already
been
evaluated
since
staff
had
prepared
the
staff
report.
O
O
There
is
not
a
minimum
off-street
parking
requirement
for
an
overnight
shelter,
but
the
area
is
well
served
by
transit,
including
the
metro,
transit
number
17
bus,
one
block
to
the
south,
and
the
number
10
that
is
along
central
avenue.
Three
blocks
to
the
east
staff
has
added
housing
policies
that
are
consistent
with
supporting
the
proposed
shelter
on
page
four
of
the
staff
report
and
then
has
also
listed
the
specific
development
standards
for
the
accessory
use
of
an
overnight
shelter
on
page
four
as
well
for
an
interim
use.
O
Permit,
we
evaluate
additional
conditions
as
well
and
those
start
on
page
five,
so
that
the
zoning
ordinance
is
authorizes
through
an
interim
use
permit
through
section
537.20
of
the
code.
O
The
applicant
is
aware
of
the
standard
related
to
public
taking
and
conditions
and
guarantees,
as
the
the
city
council
deems
reasonable
may
be
applied.
O
So
therefore,
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
the
requested
interim
use
permit
to
allow
for
an
overnight
shelter
for
up
to
50
beds
within
the
existing
place
of
assembly
subject
to
two
conditions
of
approval.
The
first
is
that
just
recognizing
that
seasonal
use
of
the
overnight
shelter
from
november
20th
through
may
31st
and
at
the
interim
use
permanent
shell
expire
no
later
than
december
4th
of
2025,
and
I
would
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
O
B
You
for
your
report,
ms
sether
I'll,
see
if
there
are
any
questions
from
members
of
the
committee,
anyone
seeing
none,
I'm
going
to
proceed
to
open
the
public
hearing
and
ask
the
clerk.
If
there
are
any
speakers
in
queue,
I
see
a
number
of
speakers
in
queue,
so
I
would
call
on
each
speaker
ask
you
to
provide
two
minutes
of
testimony
and
we're
not
going
to
have
a
buzzer.
I
would
just
ask
you
to
keep
it
to
two
minutes
and
I'll
start
with
dr
whitley.
P
P
Since
that
time,
the
some
of
the
members
of
our
shelter
last
year
have
been
placed
into
apartments
and
other
long-term
situations,
in
fact,
about
88
of
them,
with
our
follow-up
have
been
placed
into
housing
of
some
sort
and
are
not
part
of
the
shelter
this
year.
So
I
want
to
thank
the
community
logan
park.
Neighborhood
has
come
out
and
supported
the
encampment.
P
They
brought
food
and
blankets
and
socialization,
which
is
so
important,
and
we
vowed
to
be
a
very
good
neighbor
and
because
of
my
experience
last
year,
I
have
addressed
things
that
might
have
seemed
like
a
neighborhood
nuisance
and,
as
you
noticed,
we
supported
the
encampment
and
that
it
was
the
most
one
of
the
most
organized
clean
parks
of
this
year's
encampments
and
we
hope
to
have
social
services,
intend
to
have
social
services
to
also
place
work
on
housing
and
other
services
for
our
shelter
family,
as
we
go
through
the
year
and
possibly
increase,
or
at
least
maintain
the
number
of
homeless
that
will
be
housed
at
the
end
of
may
31st.
B
B
And
while
sue
is
trying
to
do
that,
the
next
person
would
be
kaylee
suhan,
followed
by
terry
guyston
and
then
pastor
becky
sue.
Were
you
able
to
press
star
six
to
unmute
hi?
This
is
kaylee
suhan,
okay,
we'll
take
you
kaylee,
while
sue's
trying
to
we'll
take
sue
too.
Just
give
her
a
second
and
we'll
take
you
kaylee
since
you're.
Here
now
you
have
two
minutes
man.
Thank
you.
Q
Thank
you
so
much.
My
name
is
kaylee
suhan.
I
live
in
the
sheridan
neighborhood
in
northeast
minneapolis
and
have
lived
in
minneapolis
for
about
12
years.
I
was
an
advocate
for
the
unhoused
last
year
at
the
shelter
and
I
will
be
in
charge
of
daily
programming
of
at
the
shelter
this
year
and
I
fully
support
the
shelter
being
put
in
the
neighborhood
again.
B
R
B
R
R
R
But
my
concern
is
that
the
building
is
in
such
disrepair.
I
sent
pictures
that
I
took
just
today,
there's
large
pieces
of
sheet
metal
that
have
come
off
this
the
tower.
Every
time
we
get
a
big
windstorm
and
they're
blowing
in
the
wind,
the
city's
been
out
twice
to
put
a
band-aid
on
it.
The
the
whole
steeple
there's
broken
windows.
R
R
R
And
you
know
just
the
experience
I
have
with
them.
Putting
in
what
I
was
understanding
was
a
temporary
air
conditioning
system
which
has
been
there
for
nine
years.
Now
it
looks
horrible,
it's
noisy
and
again.
I
understand
this
is
a
separate
issue,
but
I
just
want
to
address
the
situation
of
the
shape
of
the
building
itself.
B
B
B
We'll
see
if
the
tech
team
knows
if
pastor
becky
is
on
the
line,
if
not
miss
sether,
can
you
address
some
of
these
building
stability
issues?
I
thought
you
said
in
your
presentation
that
there
would
still
be
some
inspections
of
the
building
and
such
maybe
I
got
that
wrong.
Could
you
repeat
that.
O
Thank
you,
sir
goodman
specific
to
the
residential
occupancy
that
will
occur
in
a
newer
portion
of
the
building.
There
was
an
addition
finished
in
1990.
O
Those
species
will
be
required
to
be
inspected,
but
staff
is
also
aware
of
some
existing
conditions
with
the
church,
building
the
the
historic
building
that
need
to
have
further
further
addressing
as
well.
B
B
Thank
you
to
the
clerk.
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
saying
there
are
no
further
speakers
signed
up
and
ask
council
member
reich
if
you'd
like
to
speak
or
make
a
motion
on
this
item.
S
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
yes,
I
would
very
familiar
with
this
location
and
the
activities
that
we're
discussing
today.
S
I
think
the
highlight
of
the
story
is
that
number
of
folks
that
have
been
successfully
transferred
from
being
unhoused
to
a
very
temporary
situation
to
on
their
way
such
a
high
percentage.
I
think
it's
well
above,
if
you
want
to
call
it
an
industry
well
above
what
we
would
normally
expect
for
any
given
population
to
hit.
You
know,
50
percent,
we
we
celebrate.
This
is
even
above
that
and
it's
approaching
almost
100
percent.
That
means
something's
working
right
on
the
human
contact
can.
S
The
the
wrap
around
services,
the
the
intentionality
and,
I
think,
there's
an
x
factor
here
that
might
speak
to
it
as
well.
I
don't
think
we
could
scientifically
prove
it,
but
all
the
work
that
latonya
talked
about
in
terms
of.
B
B
T
S
That
partnership,
I
think,
is
the
sort
of
x
factor
in
the
success
story
that
we're
discussing
today,
and
it
seems
like
that
partnership
will
only
continue
and
deepen.
Of
course,
with
that,
you
know,
community
relationships
include
the
complexity
of
community,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
this
effort
of
being
quote
unquote.
Good,
neighbors
and
also
having
a
good
facility
is,
is
that
standard
does
not
get
excused
either,
and
so
I
think
we
can
do
both
continue
with
the
success
that
we're
doing
with
this
population.
S
This
this
very
expanded
need
that
we're
as
a
community
working
through
and,
of
course,
continue
to
have
that
high
standard
of
a
good
neighborly
presence,
and
so
terry's
observations
are
correct.
We
certainly
will
not
excuse
those
issues
because
we
have
such
good
work
going
within
the
building.
We
will
do
both
and
my
commitment
is
to
continue
with
that
and
I
believe
now,
the
extra
staff
attention
that's
come
here
in
the
name
of
not
just
the
community,
but
the
people
within.
If
it's
worth
doing,
we
should
do
it
right.
S
B
C
J
C
D
K
B
U
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
chair
goodman,
council
members.
My
name
is
ray
garnett.
Hopefully,
director
of
operations
and
engagement
for
regulatory
services,
I'm
here
today
to
present
updates
to
the
short-term
rentals
ordinance
for
the
remainder
of
the
slides.
I
will
also
be
using
the
acronym
str
next
slide.
Please.
U
When
we
implemented
the
in
the
initial
short-term
rental
ordinance
three
years
ago,
the
the
str
model
primarily
encompassed
people
renting
out
a
room
or
their
entire
homesteaded
property
for
a
few
days.
At
a
time
over
the
last
few
years,
we've
seen
the
short-term
rental
market
evolve,
especially
as
strs
have
become
a
business
model
both
for
small
property
owners,
as
well
as
commercial
endeavors,
where
a
company
will
rent
units
for
several
years
exclusively
for
str
occupancy.
U
U
Two
we're
preserving
the
availability
and
affordability,
affordable
housing
for
low-income
residents
by
limiting
the
amount
of
housing
that
is
being
taken
off
the
market
through
str
and,
lastly,
to
address
the
high
number
of
nuisance,
complaints
originating
from
short-term
rental
guests
or
units
next
slide.
Please.
U
Over
the
last
18
months,
we've
convened
an
internal
cross-departmental
working
group
which
included
regulatory
services,
city,
attorney's
office,
business,
license
zoning
intergovernmental
relations
and
the
assessor's
office.
We
had
regular
meetings
discussing
the
current
ordinance
and
the
evolution
of
the
short-term
market
locally
and
throughout
greater
minnesota.
U
We
spent
a
lot
of
time
researching
other
jurisdictions
around
the
country
for
a
better
understanding
of
ordinance
updates
and
the
complex
field
of
regulating
str
after
council
member
fletcher's
initial
public
meeting
to
announce
this
work.
We
also
held
meetings
with
a
wide
range
of
developers,
small
and
large
business
platforms
such
as
ministay
saunder
and
airbnb.
U
U
U
Okay,
great
on
this
slide
for
each
for
each
type
of
str
listings,
you
can
see
the
current
ordinance
requirements
as
well
as
the
proposed
changes.
The
main
proposed
changes
are
as
follows,
and
this
is
a
lot
so
I'm
going
to
walk
through
on
this
particular
chart
so
on
the
left.
Currently,
if
you
rent
a
room,
no
registration
or
line
license
is
required
and
then
in
the
proposal
or
the
proposed,
there's
no
changes.
U
When
we
go
to
the
next
situation,
it's
a
homestead.
I
have
a
property,
I
own,
my
own
house
or
condo,
and
I
want
to
rent
out
a
room.
But
I'm
going
to
stay
when,
when
I
I
open
my
home
to
a
guest,
short-term
rentals.
Well,
we
still
require
the
registration,
but
what
we're
going
to
do
is
add
we're
going
to
ask
that
post
str
information
within
each
dwelling
unit
or
room
list,
the
registration
id
on
the
platform
and
limit
occupants
to
10,
regardless
of
the
property
size
or
unit
size.
U
U
The
next
grouping
of
properties
that
we're
looking
at
is
non-home
studied
units
in
buildings
with
20
units
or,
more
again
they
will
require
a
license
and
it's
the
same
same
standards
as
above,
but
properties
must
contain
the
excuse
me.
The
number
of
units
that
can
be
listed
on
short-term
rentals
will
be
limited
to
10
within
that
building,
and
this
is
something
that
we
should
note.
Condos
are
not
included
in
this
requirement.
U
Throughout
this
ordinance
process,
we
have
heard
from
feedback
from
residents
around
some
short-term
rental
units
struggling
with
noise
parking
and
trash
issues.
In
order
to
respond
to
the
important
feedback
we've
received
through
our
engagement
process,
we
will
require
a
management
plan
for
str
licenses
that
will
be
submitted
with
the
license.
U
This
will
be
a
critical
tool
as
it
addresses
standards
of
behaviors
and
expectations
for
the
property
owner
and
guests,
including
planning
for
noise
parking
and
trash
issues.
Staff
will
work
on
solidifying
the
management
plan
template
over
the
next
few
months
and
incorporate
specific
feedback
and
concerns
that
we've
heard
from
stakeholders.
U
U
U
These
will
go
into
effect
for
the
2021
licenses.
We
are
also
looking
at
working
alongside
platforms
on
joint
education
and
outreach
about
the
new
proposals
for
the
ordinance
enforcement
will
be
done
on
a
complaint
basis,
starting
on
may
1st.
This
concludes
my
presentation
and
I
stand
for
any
questions
you
may
have.
B
B
So
we'll
see
if
council
members
have
any
questions,
if
not
we're
going
to
proceed
to
open
the
public
hearing,
there's
a
long
queue
of
people.
So
I'm
going
to
tell
you
the
three
in
a
row
and
then
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
three
we'd.
Ask
you
to
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
then
also
to
stick
to
two
minutes.
B
We
have
nickely
home
trent,
acuff
and
nathan
royce
as
the
first
three
in
that
order.
So
we'll
invite
miss
holm
to
speak
first,
please
please,
or
she
might
not
be
on
the
line
we'll
see.
If
miss
holmes
is
there,
if
not
we'll
move
on
to
trent
acoff,
followed
by
nathan,
royce
and
then
rachel
delevioure.
V
Thank
you
and
good
afternoon
committee
members.
Thank
you
all.
For
your
time.
My
name
is
trent
aka.
I'm
a
managing
director
with
heinz
hinds
is
a
privately
owned,
real
estate
firm
with
a
global
presence
in
225
cities
worldwide
we
have
40
years
and
8
million
square
feet
of
experience
in
minneapolis
across
office,
residential
and
retail
products.
Many
of
you
know
my
business
partner,
bob
befferly
very
well.
Unfortunately,
bob
is
unable
to
attend
today's
meeting
as
he
attends
the
covid
related
memorial
service
for
a
family
member.
V
But
please
know
that
my
comments
today
are
echoed
by
bob
who
has
over
30
years
of
experience
in
minneapolis
heinz,
believes
there
is
an
opportunity
to
improve
the
str
ordinance
proposed
by
council
member
fletcher
in
a
way
that
can
spur
economic
growth
and
create
additional
housing
units.
We
ask
that
the
ordinance
incorporate
additional
modifications
prior
to
approval,
most
importantly,
pivoting
away
from
a
one-size-fits-all
approach
and
adding
an
appropriate
variance
component
to
support
this
recommendation.
V
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
First,
as
a
global,
firm
working
on
city,
defining
development
times
is
having
real
time
conversations
with
some
of
the
largest
professional
services
technology,
legal
and
financial
companies
on
the
future
of
their
real
estate
needs
and
what
these
firms
are
looking
for
is
one
flexibility
and
two,
a
mixed-use
village
environment.
V
I
would
say
that
short-term
rental
is
a
key
part
of
both
of
these
considerations,
as
str
provides
adaptable,
accommodations
for
employees,
trout,
business,
travelers,
customers
and
visitors.
Further
sdr
provides
vibrancy
that
significantly
benefits
the
retail
and
restaurants
of
the
neighborhoods
and
community,
which
are
again
critical
components
of
what
these
firms
are
seeking.
V
Second,
the
example
I'd
like
to
share
is
one
councilmember
fletcher,
and
many
of
you
are
very
familiar
with,
and
that's
heinz
proposed
development
north
luke
green
at
north
luke
greene.
We
are
purpose,
building
96,
short-term
rental
units
which
are
located
on
separate
floors
with
separate
with
a
separate
check-in
lobby.
These
str
units
are,
in
addition
to
north,
are
in
addition
to
north
of
green
and
not
in
lieu
of
other
market
rate
units.
V
B
B
I
I
will
note
heinz,
did
submit
a
letter
for
the
record,
also
we'll
call
on
nathan
royce,
followed
by
rachel
de
levy
or
a
and
then
christine
eid,
mr
royce
so
you're
on
the
line.
W
You
hear
me
we
can
ma'am.
Thank
you.
Wonderful.
Thank
you.
So
much
good
afternoon
share
good
man.
Council
members.
My
name
is
rachel
deleviori
and
I'm
with
the
airbnb
public
policy
team.
I'm
grateful
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
you
today.
Airbnb
operates
in
over
220
countries
and
regions
around
the
world.
As
the
saying
goes,
all
politics
is
local.
We
at
airbnb
recognize
the
importance
of
communities
creating
regulations
which
support
the
needs
of
their
citizens
and
their
partners
in
supporting
clear
common
sense
regulations
and
jurisdictions
around
the
globe.
W
Tourism
is
among
one
of
the
hardest
hit
industries
due
to
the
global
pandemic,
and
that
is
even
more
true
in
urban
areas
such
as
minneapolis
empowering
residents
to
earn
alternative
sources
of
income
through
utilizing
their
homes
is
more
important
than
ever.
We've
heard
from
people
throughout
the
city
about
the
critical
role
hosting
plays
in
their
lives,
and
we
want
to
be
sure
hosting,
is
still
an
accessible
option
for
residents.
W
Understanding
that
minneapolis
has
a
need
to
update,
help
regulate
short-term
rentals.
We
would
like
to
urge
the
city
to
provide
clarity
on
a
few
points.
In
our
experience,
clear
and
simple
systems
are
those
with
the
highest
rates
of
compliance,
and
we
want
to
be
partners
in
achieving
that.
The
proposed
ordinance
requires
hosts
operating
short-term
rentals
outside
of
their
primary
residence
to
inform
their
neighbors
about
this
activity
we
know
being
a
good
neighbor
is
critical.
However,
neighbor
notification
is
difficult
both
to
enact
and
to
enforce.
W
W
We
would
also
like
to
understand
the
proposed
platform
license
fees
for
operators
such
as
airbnb
to
ensure
we
can
meet
our
obligations
to
the
city.
Finally,
we
would
like
to
urge
the
city
to
reconsider
the
proposal
to
restrict
the
number
of
short-term
rentals
in
buildings
with
more
than
20
units.
These
restrictions
are
arbitrary
and
deny
equal
opportunity
for
those
who
wish
to
participate
in
the
home.
Sharing
industry
limiting
residents
from
hosting
opportunities
merely
because
of
where
their
homes
are
located
is
unfair.
I
welcome
the
opportunity
to
discuss
these
matters
with
you
and
your
colleagues
further.
W
B
M
Thank
you.
This
is
christine
ida,
I'm
an
attorney
at
simpson,
and
I'm
here
representing
sonder.
First,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today
and
to
provide
our
input
on
the
proposed
ordinance.
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
its
hard
work
in
developing
this
ordinance
and
also
the
committee
for
your
leadership
in
minneapolis.
M
That
would
allow
innovative
and
responsible
companies
like
sonder
thrive
while
mitigating
the
damage
that
an
irresponsible
operator-
that's
not
just
invested
in
the
community,
may
have
I'm
here
to
state
saunders
position,
specifically
with
respect
to
the
status
of
its
continued
operations
after
the
proposed
ordinance
goes
into
effect
and
to
resolve
any
confusion.
There
is
on
that
point.
The
city
cannot
exercise
its
licensing
and
zoning
power
to
prohibit
saunders
operations
under
his
existing
leases.
M
This
is
not
an
ask
it's
the
law,
as
outlined
in
my
letter
sandra,
has
been
lawfully
operating
for
nearly
two
years
in
the
city
and
prior
to
entering
the
market.
Saunder
met
with
city
staff
and
leadership.
Funders
subsequently
invested
substantial
resources
and
entering
into
leases,
which
are
legally
mining
contracts
and
provides
sander
with
a
property
interest
in
these
buildings,
not
only
does
sonder
have
a
property
interest,
but
the
landlords
that
are
also
party
to
these
contracts
have
a
property
interest.
That's
at
stake.
M
Our
ask
is
that
the
city
expressly
acknowledged
in
the
ordinance
that
an
exception
on
the
10
threshold
for
existing
operators
of
strs.
This
should
not
be
something
that
should
be
resolved
in
litigation.
It
should
be
something
that
is
plainly
stated
in
the
ordinance,
and
with
that
I
thank
you
and
am
available
for
questions.
Thank.
N
N
Sable
is
a
condo
building
focused
on
the
short-term
rental
market
in
the
north
loop,
and
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
council
member
fletcher
and
his
team
for
listening
to
a
lot
of
feedback
provided
by
our
community,
which
provides
57
units
of
short-term
rental
housing
in
the
north
loop.
N
X
B
X
You
good
night
good
afternoon,
chair
goodman
and
council
members
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
testify
today.
My
name
is
trump
huang
at
2525
east
franklin
avenue.
I'm
a
policy
advocate
at
the
alliance
and
a
member
of
the
make
homes
happen
coalition.
I'm
here
to
share
my
organization's
support
for
the
short-term
rental
ordinance
proposed
today.
Not
only
is
it
common
sense,
regulation
that
ensures
the
health
and
safety
of
short-term
rental
occupants
and
nearby
neighbors
is
also
an
important
housing
justice
issue.
X
When
our
city
has
proclaimed
over
and
over
again
its
commitment
to
racial
equity,
we
have
to
acknowledge
that
housing,
instability
and
homelessness
are
a
burden
overwhelmingly
carried
by
people
of
color.
The
racial
equity
impact
analysis
that
the
city
performed
for
this
ordinance
shows
that
there
are
clear,
disparate
impacts
across
racial
groups
when
it
comes
to
str's
renters,
who
are
a
majority.
X
Bypac,
are
more
negatively
impacted
by
short-term
rental
properties
due
to
decreased
housing
availability,
while
property
owners
who
are
majority
white
due
to
our
vast
homeownership
gap,
benefit
from
the
fact
that
short-term
rentals
are
more
profitable
than
long-term
rentals
who
benefits
matters
and
who
builds
wealth
in
our
communities.
Matters.
X
When
our
city
is
home
to
hundreds
of
people
living
outside
intense
and
freezing
temperatures,
we
have
to
prioritize
residents
needs
for
a
home
over
individuals
or
investment
companies
desires
to
commodify
their
extra
housing
for
profit.
The
racial
equity
impact
analysis
also
states
that
property
owners
who
convert
their
short-term
rentals
back
to
long-term
rentals
might
see
a
decreased
return
on
their
properties.
But,
let's
be
clear,
decreased
return
on
investment
is
not
comparable
to
homelessness
and
housing
instability.
X
We
must
use
people
over
profit
in
a
time
of
scarce
housing,
investment
from
other
levels
of
government
and
fiscal
uncertainty,
revenue,
neutral
policies
like
this
are
critical
to
keeping
housing
available
to
minneapolis
residents.
In
this
time,
especially,
we
know
that
a
house
is
not
just
a
home
home
in
school
work
and
public
health
defense
against
the
pandemic.
We
cannot
let
home
sit
empty
when
we
know
there's
a
lack
of
supply.
B
V
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
andrew
fallstrom
and
I
actually
live
right
here
between
the
site
of
george
floyd's
murder
and
the
enormous
homeless
encampment
that
found
sanctuary
this
summer
in
powderhead
park.
I'm
not
a
corporate
belly
acre
two
houses
down
for
my
home
is
a
new
construction
single
family
home
built
on
land
that
was
tax
forfeited
to
hennepin
county,
to
stuart
in
may
of
this
year
that
single
family
home
sold
for
over
half
a
million
dollars
a
price
that
would
have
been
inconceivable
five
years
ago
when
it
was
built.
V
As
of
may,
where
families
once
lived
now
exists,
no
neighbor,
it's
an
airbnb
one
of
a
few
being
rented
out
under
one
account
or
host
on
their
website.
My
neighbors
and
I
have
watched
with
disgust
and
dismay
as
luxury
cars
came
and
went
all
summer,
while
other
members
of
my
community
lived
in
tents
in
the
park
once
a
home
is
pulled
off
of
being
affordable
for
a
family
stability.
V
It
never
comes
back
in
the
same
way
into
true
service
to
our
community,
there's
no
path
or
incentive
for
it
to
come
back
to
its
needed
use
for
long-term
residents,
buildings
that
were
once
affordable
homes
generate
far
too
much
wealth
for
those
who
have
created
a
corporate
business
model
of
buying
up
more
housing
than
they
themselves
need
and
renting
it
back
to
us
or
others
of
more
means
to
extract
the
greatest
profit
our
neighborhoods
are.
Our
neighbors
are
still
sleeping
in
parks
along
the
greenway
during
a
pandemic,
and
it's
only
getting
worse.
V
The
county
is
scaling
back
their
hotel
bed
programs,
an
accountable
number
of
renters
and
homeowners
are
going
into
deep
debt
just
to
pay
their
rented
mortgages
after
losing
their
jobs
with
very
little
hope
of
ever
clawing
themselves
out
of
covid
induced
debt.
Housing
is
a
fundamental
basic
need.
Our
communities
rise
and
fall
on
access
to
housing.
It's
clear
that
we
are
well
past
the
point
of
needing
serious
and
severe
regulation
and
intervention
in
the
accelerating
highly
speculative
and
painfully
extractive
housing
market
forces
that
have
taken
homes
out
of
our
neighborhoods.
V
This
committee
and
the
council
must
do
everything
in
your
power,
including
this
change,
a
tenant
first
opportunity
to
purchase
and
so
much
more
to
limit
the
market's
ability
to
cause
us
more
harm
and
extract
profit,
while
taking
homes
out
of
circulation,
corporations
and
llcs
are
not
people
as
a
city.
We
have
to
do
better.
We
have
to
return
our
homes
and
neighbors
neighborhoods
to
our
long-term
community
and
families.
Thank
you.
Y
Y
I
actually
thank
the
council
and
council
member
fletcher
for
moving
forward
with
this.
I
did
have
questions
related
to
it.
One
of
those
was
answered
by
the
attorney
for
saunder
who
threatened
the
city
with
litigation.
If
they
were
not
grandfathered
or
somehow
granted
a
our
question
was
whether
or
not
there
are
22
of
one
sorry
25
of
122
units
at
the
vicinity.
205
park
would
be
under
this
ordinance
or
grandfathered
in
some
way.
Y
That's
20.5
percent
of
the
units
in
the
building
down
from
the
original
94,
which
was
the
least
that
was
signed
in
in
the
beginning.
So
we
now
have
heard
saunder
threaten
us
with
litigation.
On
this
point,
I
assume
that
they
are
therefore
not
grandfathered.
I
hope
they
are
not.
This
ordinance
should
apply
to
them
in
particular.
Y
The
two
other
points
I'd
like
to
make
is
50
feet
of
notification
would
mean
that
a
building
across
washington
avenue
would
not
be
notified.
Washington
avenue
is
64
feet
wide
from
205
park
that
wouldn't
include
any
neighbor
even
across
the
street.
It
should
be
farther-
and
I
would
like
to
encourage
you
to
within
this
ordinance,
apply
equal
taxation
to
what
hotels
pay
for
all
large
operators
of
short-term
rentals.
Currently,
hotels,
pay,
14.025
percent
sales
tax
and
lodging
tax
in
minneapolis
saunder
across
the
street.
At
205
park
pays
11.3
percent
that
really
isn't
smart.
Y
B
Z
Hi
there,
my
name
is
thank
you,
councilmember
goodman,
for
providing
me
an
opportunity
to
speak
today.
I'm
alisa
mohair
resident
of
over
25
years
of
minneapolis
and
currently
live
in
ward
3.,
I'm
general
manager
for
saunder,
an
accommodations
provider
that
offers
furnished
stays
from
a
few
days
to
a
year
in
multiple
locations
across
minneapolis.
Z
We
provide
spaces
for
people
where
they
can
cook
work,
clean
their
clothes
and
live
in
for
two
for
days,
weeks
and
months.
At
a
time
every
day
I
witness
firsthand
how
live
and
stay
needs
are
evolving,
especially
during
these
extreme
uncertain
times,
and
how
relevant
and
needed
our
accommodation
type
is,
but
is
not
properly
being
addressed.
With
this
ordinance.
Z
Our
accommodation
type
is
needed,
and
even,
and
especially
during
covid,
we
averaged
80
occupancy
since
may,
with
our
guests
staying
an
average
of
15
days
and
over
60
percent
of
our
book
nights
are
people
that
stay
with
us
for
well.
Over
30
days,
we
support
so
many
people
with
so
many
needs
locals
needing
flexible
housing
such
as
michelle,
a
resident
council
member
reich's
ward,
that
lost
everything
in
a
fire,
and
we
supported
her
to
help
her
pick
up
her
pieces
and
even
help
her
through
a
hip
surgery.
Z
We
support
longer
term
business
travelers
such
as
michael
who
launched
a
new
business
here
and
stayed
with
us
for
days
and
weeks.
At
a
time
we
provide
support
for
people
staying
for
short
and
long
periods
of
time
to
be
near
their
family
hospital
patients
and
their
loved
ones,
like
the
majority
of
our
guests.
Staying
with
us
next
to
the
children's
hospital
that
need
to
be
close
to
their
children
in
long-term
care
and
first
responders
and
health
providers
like
we
have
nearly
so,
they
can
walk
to
hcmc
and
be
close
to
when
emergencies
called.
Z
If
this
ordinance
passes,
as
is,
it
will
terminate
our
ability
to
provide
short-term
rental
operations
that
are
best
in
class,
a
standard
that
councilman
reflector
has
publicly
acknowledged.
We
provide,
it
will
result
in
us,
terminating
employees,
most
of
which
are
represent
minorities
and
we
pay
living
wages.
It
would.
B
Put
us
on
the
company,
your
timing
is
up,
I
thought,
maybe
I
could
catch
you
at
the
end
of
a
sentence,
but
that
was
too
hard.
Thank
you
for
your
testimony.
We'll
hear
from
sharon
cohen,
followed
by
melissa
power.
W
Hello,
can
you
hear
me
we
can
ma'am
okay,
okay,
good
afternoon.
Thank
you
for
the
time
here
to
speak.
My
name
is
sharon
cohn
and
I
represent
solaris,
the
developer
and
owner
of
second
and
second,
the
recently
completed
multi-family
project
in
the
heart
of
the
north
loop
during
the
development
stage
of
our
project
that
began
over
three
years
ago,
we
partnered
with
saunder
to
operate
their
short-term
rental
program
over
two
dedicated
boards
of
our
building.
W
W
We
spent
months
creating
a
partnership
between
ourselves,
saunder
and
graystar
to
ensure
seamless
building
operations
for
both
our
long-term
residents
and
founder
guests.
It
was
imperative
to
us
that
saunders
played
a
significant
role
in
the
operations
of
our
project,
providing
concierge
hospitality
and
security
services
to
all
of
the
building
occupants.
It
has
been
a
very
successful
endeavor
with
nothing
but
positive
experiences
for
both
saunders
guests
and
our
multi-family
tenants
to
date
upon
completion
of
construction
in
march
of
2020.
We
were
immediately
impacted
by
covent,
followed
by
the
bouts
of
civil
unrest
in
minneapolis.
W
Saunder
has
allowed
us
to
keep
people
employed.
You
know
we
continue
to
struggle
to
these
difficult
times
to
attract
residents
back
to
the
city.
If
grandfathering
is
not
considered
within
this
ordinance,
not
only
will
our
project
be
at
stake,
but
the
neighboring
community
will
be
further
devastated
during
these
times.
We
urge
you
to
acknowledge
that
we've
been
operating
as
a
legal,
conforming
youth
and
ensure
we
have
the
right
to
continue
the
current
str
operations.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
AA
AA
AA
I
want
to
thank
madame
chair
of
the
committee
and
the
members
of
the
committee
for
the
time
and
opportunity
to
speak.
You
know
in
my
role
in
supporting
all
of
saunders
north
american
markets.
Minneapolis
has
always
been
an
outlier
among
other
thunder
cities.
For
a
few
reasons,
the
average
length
of
stay
has
always
been
twice
that
of
our
other
cities.
AA
It
has
amongst
the
highest
number
of
repeat
guests,
despite
deep
seasonality
of
minneapolis,
and
has
significantly
more
information
about
the
types
of
guests
and
choose
to
stay
with
us
based
on
the
information
they
share
with
us
in
their
reviews.
We've
attributed
much
of
this
unique
profile
of
minneapolis
as
a
city.
It
is
home
to
several
major
corporate
headquarters.
Some
of
the
best
hospitals
and
medical
treatment
facilities
in
the
world
has
become
a
notable
cultural
destination
with
top-rated
restaurants,
theater
and
music
experiences,
as
well
as
sporting
events.
AA
Saunders
success
in
minneapolis
is
due
in
large
part
to
the
traveler
demand
for
a
logic
lodging
offering
that
can
comfortably
accommodate
longer
stays
in
cobit
pandemic.
We've
found
that
we
are
providing
an
accessible,
flexible
living
option
for
the
various
needs
are
unique
to
these
times,
quarantines
and
social
distancing,
as
well
as
those
who
may
find
themselves
with
a
lack
of
financial
liquidity,
employment
stability
and
the
general
long-term
certainty
needed
to
secure
traditional
leases.
AA
Their
city
planning
departments
have
conducted
extensive
research
to
develop
public
policy
recommendations,
backed
by
hard
data
and
published
studies,
often
150
plus
pages
in
in
review
to
share
their
findings
and
justifications
with
the
public,
with
density
caps
as
restrictive
as
10
percent.
Most
cities
have
capped
september
25
and
refusal
acknowledge
legal,
conforming
non
legal
non-conforming
use
rights
of
existing
strs
in
compliance
with
current
city
regulations.
It
begs
the
question:
where
is
the
data
to
support
these
policies?
I
imagine
the
testimony.
B
B
AB
Thank
you,
sir
goodman,
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
and
thank
you
to
everyone
who
testified
and
who
participated
in
the
extensive
community,
engagement
and
community
stakeholder
and
industry
stakeholder
meetings
that
we've
held
over
the
last
18
months.
I'll
note
that
this
ordinance
really
comes
in
the
spirit
of
solving
problems
for
our
housing
industry.
It
is
not
in
the
spirit
of
solving
problems
for
a
short-term
rental
industry.
AB
We
did
not
really
set
out
to
create
a
vibrant
or
thriving
short-term
rental
industry
as
much
as
to
figure
out
how
do
we
maintain
a
vibrant
and
thriving
housing
stock
and
then,
to
the
extent
that
short-term
rental
fits
into
that
scheme.
We
want
to
allow
that
and
facilitate
it
and
also
make
sure
that
we're
properly
regulating
it
and
charging
fees
such
that
it
pays
for
itself
and
make
this
work
for
the
city.
So
our
goal
is
really
to
preserve
housing.
AB
AB
And
what
I
will
say
is
there
is
no
problem
with
market
absorption
if
we're
building
an
affordable
component
to
projects
that
there's
a
huge
wait
list
for
affordable
housing,
and
so
we
know
exactly
how
to
get
housing
absorbed
and
we're
really
trying
in
policy
to
steer
everybody
in
that
direction
and
and
as
much
as
possible.
I
think
that's
where
we've
been
prioritizing.
AB
So
that
being
said,
I
think
we've
come
to
a
place
where
we
have
created
an
opportunity
for
people
to
continue
to
operate
within
a
set
of
rules
that
work
for
us
that
don't
take
too
much
housing
off
of
the
market.
That
will
be
regulated
in
a
way
that
allows
us
to
respond
to
complaints
as
they
arise
and
hopefully
to
prevent
complaints
in
the
first
place
through
a
responsible
management
plan
and
ultimately
to
make
this
work
for
everybody
involved.
So
I'm
really
excited
about
the
work.
I
think
there's
a
the
significant
work
ahead.
AB
As
survey
told
us
that
we'll
be
working
on,
especially
on
the
the
rules
process,
around
management
plans
to
define
really
what
the
best
practices
are,
that
we're
going
to
expect
of
of
hosts
and
operators
so
that
this
happens
in
a
responsible
framework
and
really
appreciate
the
work
that
everybody,
particularly
director,
keller
and
andrew,
bosniak
and
and
soray
put
into
this.
AB
I
really
appreciate
the
the
thoughtfulness
of
this
proposal
and
I
know
that
there's
still
work
ahead,
both
with
cped
and
as
we
consider
the
fees
and
the
rulemaking
process
to
to
get
to
implementation,
but
appreciate
everybody's
thinking
on
this,
and
you
know
I'll
note
that
there
was
some
disagreement
in
the
public
testimony
around
the
notion
of
grandfathering-
and
I
just
wanna
you
know
say
for
the
record
my
perspective
on
that,
which
is
that
our
zoning
zoned
this
for
housing
and
there's
nothing
in
our
zoning
that
currently
signals
that
it's
appropriate
for
short-term
rental,
that
that's
been
a
licensing
issue
that
we're
going
to
change
the
terms
of
that
licensing.
AB
Particularly
interested
in
the
grandfathering
conversation,
I
think
that
it's
time
for
us
to
update
our
rules
and
to
change
the
way
that
we
operate
this
industry
and
I
think
that
now,
while
while
we're
in
a
pandemic-
and
there
are
fewer
people
participating
in
this
industry-
is
the
right
time
to
make
these
changes
before
the
industry
shifts
again,
as
as
things
come
back,
so
thanks
everybody
for
your
careful
consideration
of
this.
I
appreciate
the
work
that
the
committee
has
ahead
and
I
know
that
there's
more
discussion
to
follow
so
I'll.
B
B
B
Many
of
you
know
that
buildings
with
fewer
than
20
units,
no
owner
or
licensee,
shall
have
an
interest
in
more
than
one
short-term
dwelling
unit.
My
amendment
would
say,
except
in
homesteaded
duplexes,
with
approved
adus
and
homesteaded
triplexes,
where
the
homestead
owner
may
operate,
the
non-homesteaded
unit
or
units
does
light
a
license
to
short-term
rental
dwelling
units
in
compliance
with
all
applicable
provisions
of
the
code.
B
What
this
amendment
does
is
it
would
allow
those
who
live
in
their
own
unit
and
rent
one
of
two
in
a
duplex
could
rent
two
of
three
in
a
triplex
as
long
as
it's
owner
occupied,
as
well
as
the
short-term
rental
is
managed
by
the
owner
occupant.
B
J
B
C
J
C
D
K
B
That
item
has
been
approved,
we'll
move
on
to
item
number
five.
This
is
the
west
broadway
curve,
affordable
housing
project.
There
are
two
pieces
to
this
item:
five,
which
is
the
bond
issuance
and
item
six,
which
is
the
tax
increment
financing
plan.
The
item
on
number
five,
which
is
the
bonds,
has
been
noticed
for
public
hearing
today,
but
staff
is
asked
to
continue
this
item
for
one
to
the
next
well,
actually
until
february.
Second,
but
before
I
make
that
motion,
I
want
to
open
the
public
hearing
and
ask
the
clerk.
B
If
there
are
any
speakers
in
queue
on
item
number
five,
which
is
the
bond
issuance,
looks
like
we
have
charles
burdick,
who
would
like
to
speak
on.
Item
number
five:
we're
not
going
to
take
a
staff
presentation
on
item
five,
but
mr
burdick,
you
are
welcome
to
speak,
so
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
on
item
number
five
and
invite
you
to
press
star
six
to
unmute
and
speak
to
the
issue
of
affordable
housing
entitlement
bonds
for
the
west
broadway
curve.
You
have
two
minutes,
sir.
J
Thank
you,
I'm
here
to
speak
in
support
of
the
project
and
provide
answers
to
any
questions,
I'll
wait
till
the
next
item.
Thank
you.
B
Okay,
seeing
no
further
speakers
in
the
queue
I'm
going
to
close
the
public
hearing
and
move
to
postpone
till
february
2nd
item
number
five
again
the
west
broadway
curve
bond
issuance.
C
J
C
B
Are
five
eyes
that
item
has
been
continued
until
february
2nd,
then
we'll
move
on
to
our
last
regular
public
hearing,
which
is
item
number
six.
This
is
approving
the
tax
increment
financing
plan
for
the
west
broadway
curve
passage
of
the
pay,
as
you
go
note
and
authorizing
the
redevelopment
contract.
I
note
that
hillary
tiffany
glasper
is
on
the
line
and
would
invite
her
to
give
a
presentation.
AC
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
so
much
members
of
the
committee,
my
name,
is
tiffany
glasper.
I
am
a
senior
project
coordinator
in
the
residential
finance
division
at
cped,
the
west
broadway
west
building
project,
also
known
as
west
broadway
curve.
2
is
a
92-unit
new
construction
project
proposed
for
west
broadway
avenue
between
knox
and
newton
avenues
north
along
what
is
commonly
known
as
the
curve.
AC
AC
The
project
will
also
include
underground
parking,
an
integrated
transit,
stop
public
art,
green
spaces
and
a
greenway
through
the
site
connecting
northward
to
cottage
park.
The
town
home
units
have
been
thoughtfully
designed
to
include
walk-ups
fronting
on
west
broadway
for
more
eyes
on
the
street.
AC
The
total
development
costs
for
the
project
are
currently
estimated
at
just
under
32
million
developer
participation
in
the
project
includes
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
nine
hundred
and
seventy
five
dollars
in
deferred
developer
fee.
The
total
developer
fee
is
two
million
seven
hundred
and
eighty
four
thousand
five
hundred
and
fifteen
dollars,
which
is
in
compliance
with
the
city's
developer
fee
guidelines.
AC
To
date,
more
than
20
million
in
sources
have
been
secured
for
the
project.
The
financial
details
should
be
included
in
the
project
data
worksheet
that
is
attached
to
your
copy
of
the
staff
report.
The
developer
has
requested
pay-as-you-go
tif
assistance
from
the
city
to
help
pay
for
eligible
construction
costs.
The
west
broadway
curve
tax,
increment
financing
plan
establishes
a
new
housing
tip
district
and
pending
approval.
The
city
will
issue
a
pay,
as
you
go
tax
increment
note
in
the
amount
of
one
million
five
hundred
and
sixteen
thousand
dollars
to
the
project.
AC
The
pay
go.
Note
does
not
obligate
the
city
to
make
any
payments
to
the
note
holder
beyond
90
percent
of
the
increment
generated
by
the
project.
The
west
broadway
curve.
Tif
plan
is
also
attached
to
your
report
and
provides
a
detailed
breakdown
of
how
the
increment
will
be
distributed
and
used
as
required
by
state
statute.
The
west
broadway
curve
tax
increment
financing
plan
was
transmitted
for
the
required
45-day
review
to
hennepin
county,
the
minneapolis
school
board,
city
planning,
commission,
jordan
area
community
council
area
business
associations
and
other
interested
parties
on
october.
First,
twenty
twenty.
AC
The
project
has
also
received
an
award
from
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund
in
the
amount
of
one
million
three
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
and
an
award
from
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund,
contingency
pool
in
the
amount
of
six
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars.
AC
The
developer
will
also
be
submitting
an
application
for
tax-exempt
housing
revenue,
entitlement
bonds,
bonds,
which
will
be
the
subject
of
a
future
staff
report,
along
with
a
land
sale
staff,
are
recommending
approval
today
of
the
west
broadway
curve
tax
increment
financing
plan,
I'm
happy
to
field
any
questions.
If
you
like,
are
there.
B
Any
questions
for
miss
glasper
on
her
report
on
item
number
six,
seeing
none.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
report.
All
of
the
good
projects
get
you
tiffany,
so
I'm
really
happy
and
proud.
You're
still
working
with
us
and
doing
such
incredible
work.
Every
affordable
housing
project
that
is
meaningful
has
gone
through
your
hands.
They're
all
meaningful,
but
the
ones
you've
worked
on
have
been
some
of
the
longest
and
the
hardest
to
do,
and
I
am
grateful
for
your
service.
Thank
you
for
being
on
the
call
today.
Thank
you.
AC
B
We
will
open
the
public
hearing
and
ask
if
there
are
any
speakers
in
the
queue.
I
can
see
that
the
previous
speaker,
mr
burdick,
is
on
the
call,
as
is
mr
sherman
I'd,
invite
either
of
you
to
press
star
six
to
unmute.
You
have
two
minutes.
H
Sherman
associates
has
been
involved
in
developing
affordable
housing
in
minneapolis
for
over
41
years,
we
actually
started
our
affordable
housing
efforts
up
in
west
broadway
in
1979,
I'm
a
long-term
resident
of
the
city
and
have
personally
made
a
commitment
to
making
an
impact
on
the
city
and
providing
quality,
housing
and
community
improved
impacts.
Everywhere
we
can,
as
you
heard,
this
is
a
project
that
is
unique.
H
We
are
providing
some
large
family
units,
20
townhall
units
that
can
be
afforded
up
to
80
percent
of
the
median
income,
there's
been
a
shortage
of
large
family
housing
and
a
shortage
of
the
housing
between
50
and
60
percent
and
eighty
percent
in
north
minneapolis.
H
We
are
also
delivering
72
apartments,
affordable
between
50
and
60.
In
this
time
of
great
need
of
affordable
housing.
This
represents
92,
affordable
housing
units
in
an
area
that
has
been
greatly
impacted
by
both
racial
equity
matters
and
by
the
recent
riots
in
north
minneapolis
and
south
minneapolis.
H
This
project
is
part
of
the
rebuild
west
broadway
that
we're
committed
to
including
the
commercial
corridor
that
we're
so
actively
involved
in
our
conversation
has
come
up
about
our
long-term
commitment
to
housing,
and
we
very
much
have
that
as
a
as
forefront.
This
project
was
committed
to
over
40
years
of
affordable
housing.
H
B
AD
Yes,
alexis
penny
here
I
wanted
to
speak
on
behalf
of.
B
B
AD
AE
AD
Good
afternoon,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
deference,
and
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
everyone
for
their
time.
You
know,
speaking
on
the
matter
of
item
six,
which
is
the
broadway
curve,
the
time
the
tax
increment
financing
funding
and
I
wanted
to
speak
in
support
of
affordable
housing,
but
also
against
the
tax
increment
financing
mechanism.
AD
Specifically,
I
just
wanted
to
put
it
on
everyone's
radar
that
this
development
project
has
been
on
has
been
slated
to
happen
since
2015,
and
obviously
that's
been
about
five
years
now
and
right
now
we're
moving
forward
on
this
project,
which
is
great
news.
AD
Obviously
we
have
between
50
and
80
emi,
but
the
problem
is
is
that
we,
the
question
is
here,
is
like:
why
is
it
that
sherman
associates
felt
the
need
to
then
move
forward
five
years
later
on
this
project
once
they
thought
they
could
secure
tax
increment
financing
because
it
seems
like
that
is
a
good
way
for
them
to
get
to
recoup
their
development
cost
for
this
project,
which
for
them
obviously
sounds
fantastic,
but
in
terms
of
the
public
services
that
residents
would
receive
to
do
the
property
tax
levied
on
this
site.
AD
That
will
not.
That
will
essentially
then
go
to
the
developer,
begs
the
question,
who
truly
benefits
and
and
benefits
and
outcomes
really
matter.
I
know
that
one
of
our
goals
with
this
project
is
to
afford
quality,
safe
store,
quality
state
of
life
for
everybody,
and
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that,
if
we're
really
doing
that
today
that
we're
asking
where
is
this
money
going
and
truly
who's
that
who's
truly
benefiting
it
from
it
as
a
north
side
resident
and
a
person
that
lives
in
jordan
area?
AD
A
lot
of
my
colleagues
and
people
that
live
around
me?
My
my
neighbors,
we
live
in
an
we
make
about
thirty
five
thousand
dollars
annually
in
terms
of
terms
of
income
and
in
terms
of
affording
places
that
are
50
and
80
emi.
We
don't
actually
actually
even
have
the
income
to
afford
these.
These
housing
units
essentially-
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
truly
trying
to
reach
the
greatest
outcomes
here
that
we're
not
doing
it
on
the
backs
of
the
residents
that
live
here.
Currently.
B
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
you
know
this.
I
think
you
know
the
person
who
just
gave
testimony
mr
penny.
I
I
do
appreciate
both
george
and
and
alexis
coming
to
give
their
give
their
testimony.
I
You
know
this
project
predates
myself
and
it
has
been
five
years
and
I
asked
our
staff
about
that
like
what
what
took
this,
what
took
so
long
in
this
project,
I'm
sure
mr
sherman
could
maybe
speak
for
himself,
but
my
understanding
is
that,
in
short,
there
were
some
hurdles
to
to
overcome
on
this
project,
and
while
I
think
that
there
may
be
plenty
of
valid
lessons
or
valid
questions
about
why
it
took
so
long,
I
think
once
we're
getting
here
and
we're
looking
at.
I
You
know
we
talked
about
benefit
or
the
question
of
benefit
was
brought
up
once
we've
we're
getting
kind
of
the
end
of
the
road
here,
and
I
do
think
that
the
activation
of
this
this
currently
vacant
site
and
and
the
level
of
affordability
and
not
just
the
level
of
affordability
but
the
nature
of
the
affordability
really
is
going
to
be
a
benefit
to
the
community.
I
The
I
have
a
lot
of
criticisms
of
about
how
we've
done
about
how
not
we,
but
we
as
a
country,
not
we
as
a
city,
but
we
as
a
country
do
affordable
housing,
they're
slightly
philosophical,
but
beforehand.
I
think
that
we've
been
in
a
situation
where
we
either
have
to
pick
concentrating
affordability
or
unmitigated
gentrification,
and
I
feel
like
by
by
sort
of
staggering
the
affordability
from
50
60
to
80.
I
It
gives
us
a
little
bit
of
a
third
option
here,
and
so
I
think
when
it,
the
tip
is
going
to
go
towards
supporting
the
affordability.
The
question
of
where
does
the
money
go
was
brought
up,
and
I
think
that
that
the
tip
goes
towards
securing
the
affordability
so
that
we
can
have
these
sites
be
at
50
and
60
and
80
percent,
and
so
I
I
think
that
it's
it's
a
net
benefit
to
the
community.
I
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
valid
critiques
or
questions
to
be
asked,
but
in
this
case
I
think
that
we
have
a
good
project
that
that
I'm
that
I'm
happy
to
move
forward
with.
So
with
with
that
comment,
I'm
happy
to
move
approval
of
this
item.
Madam
chair.
B
Thank
you,
councilmember
ellison
councilmember
moved
approval.
Are
there
further
comments
or
questions
on
that
motion?
B
I
almost
you
know
you
like
open
the
door
for
me
to
be
against
it,
since
there
are
very
few
projects
that
I
would
support,
but
this
is
one
of
them
primarily
due
to
its
location,
the
importance
of
development
on
west
broadway
and,
most
importantly,
fixed
income
in
the
project.
J
B
Those
that
item
is
approved.
Thank
you
to
everyone
who
worked
on
that.
We'll
then
move
on
to
our
quasi-judicial
public
hearing,
starting
with
item
number
seven,
which
is
a
conditional
use,
permit
and
variance
appeal
by
karen
winkler
for
the
property
at
4207
nicolette
avenue.
I
would
invite
miss
devorak
to
give
her
staff
report.
AF
AF
The
site
is
surrounded
by
residential
developments
of
varying
densities,
and
the
public
park
is
located
directly
north
of
the
site.
There
are
also
small
scale
commercial
uses
scattered
along
nicolette
avenue,
and
the
site
is
located
in
the
kingfield
neighborhood.
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
construct
a
new
five-story
82-unit
residential
building
on
the
site.
There
would
be
enclosed
parking
on
the
site
and
access
from
the
public
alley
next
slide.
AF
R
AF
Here
we
go.
Thank
you.
The
building
that
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
construct
will
be
five
stories
or
57
feet,
so
the
overall
height
in
terms
of
feet
is
only
one
foot
taller
than
what
is
allowed
currently
in
the
zoning
district.
The
building
does
step
down
to
four
stories
in
height
on
the
south
side
of
the
building,
as
it
approaches
the
most
immediate
residential
neighbor.
AF
The
existing
buildings
located
along
this
block
of
nicollet
avenue
range
and
height
from
one
to
two
and
a
half
stories.
While
the
proposed
building
will
be
taller
than
any
of
the
existing
buildings
on
the
block,
the
development
will
improve
the
urban
character
of
the
area,
replacing
the
existing
one-story
commercial
building
with
a
higher
density
residential
building.
AF
The
proposed
height
of
the
building
is
in
con
conf,
isn't
conformance
with
the
policy
guidance
for
properties
located
in
the
corridor.
Six
bill
form
district,
which
calls
for
building
heights
between
two
and
six
stories.
AF
AF
The
project
also
requires
a
variance
to
increase
the
flurry
ratio
from
2.04
to
3.82,
given
a
lot
size.
The
maximum
amount
of
development
that
is
allowed
as
of
right
is
approximately
32
000
square
feet
of
development
and
the
applicant
is
proposing
a
building
that
is
approximately
sixty
thousand
square
feet
in
size.
AF
The
built
form
guidance
for
the
site
is
quarter
six
again,
which
allows
buildings
up
to
six
stories.
The
proposed
development
will
be
the
largest
building
in
the
immediate
area.
However,
the
site
is
located
along
nicolette
avenue,
which
is
a
designated
goods
and
services
corridor,
and
the
built
form
guidance
for
the
site
is
quarter
six,
which
calls
for
buildings
up
to
six
stories
in
height.
AF
AF
AF
The
site
is
located
along
nicolette
avenue,
which
is
a
high
frequency
transit
route.
The
site
is
also
located
within
walking
distance
of
many
commercial
businesses
and
a
public
park.
The
proposed
variance
is
reasonable
in
these
circumstances
and
is
in
keeping
with
the
spirit
and
intent
of
the
ordinance.
AF
AF
AF
The
commercial
buildings
on
the
south
end
of
the
block
are
all
located
up
to
the
front
property
line.
The
air
intake
vent
while
being
located
eight
feet
into
the
required
yard,
will
only
project
out
of
the
ground
by
approximately
one
foot
there.
Air
intake
vent
is
required
to
be
located
in
this
corner
of
the
site
for
ventilation
purposes.
AF
The
proposed
septics
or
wreath
smells
they
will
be
compatible
with
surrounding
development
and
will
not
create
conflicts
with
surrounding
properties
or
uses.
The
placement
of
the
building
will
not
interfere
with
access
to
adequate
light,
air
and
open
space
for
surrounding
uses.
The
effect
of
the
yard
variance
is
along
the
street
frontage
on
the
pedestrian
experience
is
mitigated
through
variation
of
the
building's
setbacks
to
articulate
the
facades,
incorporation
of
ground
level
and
upper
level,
step
backs
and
incorporation
of
entrance
landings
along
nicolette
avenue.
AF
The
development
will
replace
existing
one-story
commercial
building
with
parking
between
and
the
front
property
line
along
nicolette
avenue.
The
pedestrian
experience
will
be
enhanced
by
the
development,
including
improvements
to
be
made
to
the
public,
sidewalk
and
boulevards.
The
proposed
setback
serves
the
intent
of
the
ordinance
as
the
city's
land
use
policies.
AF
The
last
variance
that
is
being
appealed
for
the
development
is
a
variance
to
reduce
that
south
interior
side
yard
setback
from
13
feet
to
5
feet
for
the
entrance
landing,
stairs
and
mechanical
equipment.
AF
As
you
can
note,
the
building
itself
is
not
located
in
that
required
yard.
Practical
difficulties
exist
and
complying
with
the
ordinance
because
of
circumstances
unique
to
the
property.
There
will
be
three
entrance:
landings
measuring
40
square
feet
with
stairs
eight
feet
wide
located
in
the
required
yard.
Entrance
landings
that
are
16
square
feet
in
size
and
stairs
that
are
four
feet
in
width.
AF
Are
permitted
obstructions
in
the
required
yard
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
increase
the
size
of
the
entrance
landings
and
the
width
of
the
stairs
to
allow
more
space
for
those
entering
and
exiting
those
units.
The
proposed
mechanical
equipment
will
be
located
towards
the
rear
of
the
site.
Given
the
grades,
it
will
be
located
at
the
lower
elevation
of
the
site
and
will
not
be
located
immediately
adjacent
to
the
existing
residential
building
to
the
south.
AF
The
proposed
setbacks
are
reasonable,
as
they
will
be
compatible
with
surrounding
development
and
will
not
create
conflicts
with
surrounding
properties
or
uses.
The
placement
of
the
entrance
landing
stairs
and
mechanical
equipment
will
not
interfere
with
access
to
adequate
air,
adequate
light
air
and
open
space
for
surrounding
uses.
The
proposed
setbacks
serve
the
intent
of
the
ordinance
and
the
city's
land
use
policies,
and
I
am
here
for
any
questions.
AF
B
AE
B
AE
This
is
karen
winkler:
I've
been
thinking
a
lot
about
all
the
building
and
growth
that
I've
witnessed
in
the
city
over
the
past
few
years,
and
I've
reviewed
some
of
the
approved
variances
and
conditional
use
permits
that
are
online
and
available
for
everyone,
and
these
are
approved
variances
in
conditional
use
permits
over
the
objections
and
appeals
of
the
citizens,
and
I
have
to
wonder
who
the
zoning
board
and
city
council
is
actually
working
for.
AE
Well,
it's
very
disheartening
when
I
hear
people
talk
about
enhanced
development
and
improve
the
urban
character,
because,
right
now
we
have
really
good
urban
character.
All
you
have
to
do
is
walk
the
city
streets.
AG
AE
Understand
that
change
is
the
only
constant
and
that
in
the
20
cities,
things
change
often
and
restaurants
especially
come
and
go.
But
current,
which
has
been
a
neighborhood
staple
for
over
seven
years,
is
going
away
at
other
quirky
restaurants.
It
didn't
have
great
food
or
decor.
I
know
that
no
one
went
there
for
great
coffee,
but
it
was
a
landmark
that
helped
define
the
neighborhood.
AE
The
business
at
the
corner
of
nickelodeon
47
32nd
street
is
really
going
to
be
myth.
It
was
unique
to
the
neighborhood
and
that's
what
I'm
here
to
talk
about
today,
talks
about
the
neighborhood
and
what's
goes
to
the
residents
who
live
here.
The
various
things
to
the
code
and
the
conditional
use
permit.
Q
AE
AE
He
says
having
a
five-story
apartment
building
is
going
to
be
completely
out
of
character
through
this
area
of
south
indianapolis,
where
the
average
apartment
building
or
multi-family
dwelling
is
between
two
and
three
stories.
High.
The
condos
directly
to
the
south
of
this
property
will
have
the
entirety
of
the
mlk
city
park,
completely
blocked
from
you,
and
they
can
kiss
goodbye
any
daylight
or
skyscape
that
they
could
see
today.
AE
T
AE
The
residence
directly
to
the
east
and
downhill
from
the
proposed
apartment
will
be
robbed
of
sunlight
and
be
in
shadow,
because
this
is
a
building
located
at
the
top
of
the
hill
on
nicholas
as
the
sun
passes.
Behind
it,
midday
the
residence
is
directly
across
from
nuclear,
would
likewise
be
in
the
shadow
of
this
building
until
the
sun
reaches
the
top
of
the
five-story
building.
Sometime
later
in
the
day,
I
can't
imagine
being
permanently
robbed
of
sunrises
and
sunsets,
especially
in
the
dead
of
winter.
AE
When
days
are
so
short,
part
of
the
charm
of
the
city
is
being
able
to
look
out
your
window
and
see
so
much
greenery,
so
many
trees.
Look
at
the
skyline
look
at
the
horizons
regarding
the
number
of
proposed
apartment
units
in
this
building
on
this
corner.
I
have
to
wonder
who
reviewed
this,
because
the
added
pressure
of
approximately
40
to
80
additional
vehicles
parking
near
this
intersection,
because
they're
only
going
to
have
37
spaces.
B
AE
AH
Very
well
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
be
heard
as
council
for
the
appellant
on
this
peel
of
multiple
variances.
AH
AH
The
threshold
findings
for
variances
are
practical
difficulties.
The
appellant
the
applicant
has
has
demonstrated
no
practical
difficulties
here.
The
practical
difficulties
identified
by
the
staff
in
their
report
is
that
the
new
zoning
standards
have
not
been
adopted
to
implement
the
2040
plan.
This
makes
no
sense.
The
zoning
ordinance
update
is
a
legislative
act.
AH
AH
AH
AH
What
are
we
losing
as
a
result
of
the
shift
in
this
land
economics?
Under
the
2040
plan,
kearns
neighborhood
restaurant
operated
on
this
corner
for
72
years
with
nearly
42
employees
who
were
who
were
as
diverse
as
the
neighborhood.
They
served,
many
of
whom
had
worked
here
for
decades,
the
employees
kept
the
money
in
the
local
economy.
AH
AH
AH
In
closing,
I
speak
for
many
minneapolis
residents
when
I
say
if
I
wanted
to
live
in
a
high
density
city,
I'd
move
to
one
we're
losing
a
valuable
commercial
corner
here
for
unaffordable,
high-density
residential
and
we're
all
suffering
and
poorer
as
a
result.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration.
B
B
B
I
personally
think
that
if
you
have
a
variance
five
variances
in
front
of
the
committee
and
an
appeal,
you
at
least
have
the
responsibility
to
show
up
and
speak
to
it.
So
again,
I'll
have
I'll
close
the
public
hearing
and
move
to
postpone
this
item.
One
cycle
further
comments
or
questions
sing.
None
I'd!
Ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
roll
house.
D
J
C
J
B
AI
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee.
My
name
is
andrea
burke
and
I'm
the
supervisor
for
the
historic
preservation
team
in
cped
next
slide.
Please,
today,
I'm
presenting
an
appeal
application
submitted
by
elizabeth
smith,
who
is
the
applicant
and
the
appellant
of
the
october
13
2020
heritage,
preservation,
commission's
approval
of
our
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
replace
12
windows,
12
historic
windows
and
storm
windows
on
the
property
located
at
4736
dupont,
avenue
south
in
the
lindhurst
residential
historic
district
in
ward
13..
AI
Next
slide,
please
4736,
dupont,
avenue
south
is
a
two
and
a
half
story,
brick
residence
designed
in
the
classical
revival
style
by
liebenberg,
kaplan
and
martin
next
slide.
Please,
the
applicants
proposed
to
replace
12
historic
wood
windows
and
replacement
storm
windows.
4
windows
on
the
front
next
slide.
Please
2
windows
on
the
side
next
slide,
please
and
6
windows
on
the
rear,
with
fiberglass
and
aluminum
clad
wood
windows
as
part
of
the
mac
sound
mitigation
program.
AI
Next
slide,
please,
on
october
13
2020
the
heritage
preservation
commission
approved
the
certificate
of
appropriateness,
application
with
conditions
specifically
condition
number
one.
The
four
original
wood
windows
on
the
front
elevation
of
the
house
shall
be
repaired
and
not
replaced
and
number
two.
The
two
original
wood
windows
on
the
second
floor
of
the
side,
elevations
shall
be
repaired
and
not
replaced.
The
remaining
windows
shall
be
replaced
as
proposed
as
approved
by
the
commission.
AI
Next
slide,
please,
as
stated
in
the
staff
report,
the
reasons
for
the
conditions
are
that
removing
character,
defining
features
of
a
historic
property
that
are
not
severely
deteriorated
are
in
conflict.
With
the
secretary
of
the
interior
standards
number
five
and
number
six.
The
standards
recommend
repair
over
replacement,
but
are
flexible.
AI
In
this
case,
window
deterioration
is
not
necessating.
The
proposed
replacement,
it
is
sound
abatement,
as
such
staff
recommended
and
the
hpc
approved
the
project
to
repair
those
windows
that
are
most
visible
on
the
property
for
on
the
front
two
on
the
front
side
corners
of
the
home,
but
allowing
replacement
of
the
six
windows
on
the
rear
to
achieve
compliance
with
the
standards.
AI
AI
It
is
my
understanding
that
the
applicant
is
appealing
the
two
conditions
of
approval
stated
above
and
seeking
full
approval
to
replace
all
12
windows
on
the
property,
not
just
six.
This
concludes
my
presentation
and
I'm
available
for
any
questions.
The
up
talent
is
also
present
and
would
like
to
speak.
Thank
you.
B
Okay
I'll
see,
first,
if
there
are
any
questions
for
staff,
I
have
one
miss
burke
under
the
secretary
of
interior
standards.
Are
there
no
exceptions?
I
mean
I
would
think
max.
Sound
abatement
in
this
area
is
critical
and
to
suggest
that
we
have
to
have
an
either
or
between
preservation.
Over
sound
abatement
is
just
simply
going
to
devalue
these
homes
if
they
can't
put
in
the
mac,
approved
sound
abatement.
So
what
is
the
guidance
when
there
are
two
compelling
public
interests
at
play?.
AI
Well,
the
standards
don't
necessarily
well,
actually
they
don't
a
test
for
sound
abatement.
They
simply
are
they're
very
vague
and
they
state
that
the
features
of
the
property
shall
be
repaired.
Over
replacement
replacement
is
really
only
justified
when
there
is
severe
deterioration
and
that's
a
commonly
held
practice
and
statement
that's
held
by
the
federal
government
as
well
as
local
governments
in
the
state
government.
So
it's
very
much
they
can
be
flexible
when
it
comes
to
two,
but
in
this
case
the
flexibility
is
kind
of
a
gray
area.
B
But
we
do
have
the
flexibility
to
allow
them
to
replace
these
windows
for
the
issue
of
sound
abatement.
That's
why
it's
in
front
of
us
correct
that
is
correct,
and
do
you
think
that
we
should
be
telling
everyone
living
underneath
the
flight
pattern
that
they
can't
replace
their
windows
through
mac,
sound
abatements.
AI
You
know
I'm
applying
the
standards
and
I
think
it's
very
varied,
and
I
think
it's
a
case
by
case
and
the
commission
in
this
case
felt
that
it
was
an
equal
compromise
or
a
good
compromise
to
be
allowed
the
replacements
on
the
rear,
but
not
on
the
front
to
maintain
the
integrity
of
the
home.
But.
B
AI
That
is
one
way
to
interpret
the
standards,
and
I
think
it's
it
is
up
to
this
committee,
to
you
know
to
allow
that
from
the
from
the
appellant
should
they
desire.
D
Thank
thank
you
very
much
and
I
think
part
of
it
was
answered
in
terms
of
the
both
the
staff
and
the
commission
agreed
with
this.
D
Limiting
the
number
of
windows
being
replaced
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
think
I
understand
that
clearly,
then
I
was
curious
if
there
was
any
effort
to
explore
some
kind
of
a
restoration
that
would
also
have
sound
abatement,
and
I
know
that
maybe
there
isn't-
and
I
don't
know
that
much
about
window
design
and
options
and
alternatives
and
how
tricky
it
would
be
to
add
panes
of
glass
on
a
interior
but
change
a
storm
window
or
any
of
those
things.
D
AI
Yeah,
so
this
was
discussed
at
the
hpc
hearing
between
the
commissioners
and
the
applicant
that,
as
well
as
the
representative
from
the
max
sound
program,
that,
by
adding
the
storm
windows
which
were
approved
the
difference
in
the
sound
abatement.
Wasn't
that
great?
I
will
not
quote
them,
but
I
do
remember
that
discussion
being
had
between
the
chair
of
the
hpc
and
a
representative
from
the
mac
program.
AI
But
yes,
there
are
other
measures
to
sort
of
help
towards
sound
abatement.
Now
I'll
will
confess
it
likely
does
not
achieve
the
same
abatement
that
it
would
with
full
replacement.
But
there
are
measures
to
reduce
sound
abatement
or
to
reduce
the
sound
coming
through
by
adding
the
storm
windows
and
some
other
measures,
and
I
think,
that's
generally,
in
my
opinion,
what
guided
the
hpc's
decision
on
this
matter.
B
Thank
you,
councilmember
gordon.
Are
there
any
other
questions
for
members
of
the
committee?
Seeing
none
I'm
going
to
proceed
the
open,
the
public
hearing
I'll
give
the
appellant
an
opportunity
to
make
her
case
is
liz
smith
or
her
representative
on
the
call
looks
like
liz
smith
is
on
the
call
miss
smith.
Can
you
keep
your
comments?
Brief?
Is
that
possible?
AJ
Issues
speak
as
quickly
as
humanly
possible
for
me:
okay,
fine,
okay,
so
first
I
just
want
to
say
thanks
for
giving
me
a
chance
to
talk
about
this.
We
bought
our
house
a
couple
years
ago,
knowing
we
were
in
a
flight
path.
Knowing
that
we've
been
granted
this
math
money
that
would
help
mitigate
the
noise.
We
were
well
on
our
way
to
replacing
these
when
the
project
was
put
on
hold.
When
the
historical
designation
study
began,
the
planes
keep
us
up
at
night.
They
wake
us
up
in
the
morning.
It's
it's
painful.
AJ
Having
our
kids
wake
up
earlier
than
they
would
normally
sounds
like
the
planes
are
on
our
roof.
Again,
we
knew
this.
Would
we
knew
it
when
we
bought
it,
but
we
knew
that
we
were
going
to
be
able
to
fix
it.
So
the
hpc
approved
replacing
all
of
the
12
storms
that
we
requested
but
said
we
could
only
repair
the
internal
windows
in
our
bedrooms
rather
than
replacing
them
with
the
double-paned
windows,
the
mac
sound
abatement
project
manager.
AJ
As
andrea
noted
said,
the
reconditioning
is
not
going
to
be
the
same
as
adding
a
double
pane
window
on
those
in
those
areas,
since
the
windows
are
inside
of
the
storms
that
have
already
been
approved,
and
we
purposely
chose
a
design
that
matches
the
historical
look
of
our
house
now,
you
will
not
be
able
to
tell
the
difference
between
these
replaced
windows
and
what
we
currently
have
in
our
house.
AJ
The
report
from
the
hpc
states
quote
the
replacements
will
not
negatively
impact
the
integrity
of
location,
setting,
feeling
design
and
association,
so
just
to
reiterate
the
six
windows
in
the
house
that
were
only
approved
to
be
repaired
rather
than
replace
our
bedroom
windows,
which
are
the
most
important
windows
for
us
to
be
able
to
reduce
the
noise.
We
just
want
to
be
able
to
sleep
and
there
will
be
no
visible
difference
from
the
street
because
of
these
windows
being
replaced
since
they
are
inside
the
storms
that
were
already
approved.
AJ
B
B
B
I
feel
I
am
about
as
pro
preservation
as
anyone,
but
if
you
can't
see
the
difference
from
the
outside
because
of
the
storms,
I
don't
see
any
reason
to
tell
them
that
they
can't
use
the
mac
program
to
have
these
windows
if
you've
ever
been
over
there.
It's
extremely
loud,
and
I
don't
feel
that
this
is
going
to
have
a
material
impact
on
the
look
of
the
building
and
I'm
not
sure
if
I
should
direct
staff
to
adopt
findings
based
on
what
I
have
suggested.
B
J
C
Y
J
B
Item
has
been
approved,
the
appeal
has
been
granted.
We
have
two
discussion
items
in
front
of
us
members
of
the
committee
I
this
is
going
on
two
hours
and
I
probably
need
to
get
up
and
stretch
at
some
point.
I
understand
that
the
opportunity
to
purchase
options
report
is
really
important
and
they've
we've
had
staff
and
consultants
waiting
a
really
long
period
of
time.
B
D
I'm
comfortable-
and
I
don't
want
to
offend
staff
who
are
all
excited
about
it
and
want
to
do
this,
but
I'm
comfortable
if
we
publicize
it
and
learn
about
it
outside
of
the
committee
and
to
further
discussion.
I'm
not
sure
about
my
colleagues.
B
Okay,
so
I
think
what
we
should
do
is
we
should
move
forward
item
number
31
so
that
it's
not
delayed
in
the
committee
process
right
and
then
I
can
talk
to
the
chair
of
pogo
to
see
if
there's
room
there
to
have
a
brief
presentation.
B
If
not
I
I
do
not
want
to
diminish
all
of
the
very
very
important
work
of
our
professional
staff,
but
I'm
worried
about
time.
So
without
objection,
I'm
going
to
move
approval
of
item
number
31
with
a
very
strong
thank
you
to
staff
we'll
see.
If
anyone
wants
to
speak
to
that
motion,
you're
welcome
to
do
so.
J
F
C
F
K
C
K
B
You
that
item
is
approved,
then
we'll
move
to
our
final
item,
which
is
a
receive
and
file
report
on
the
opportunity
to
purchase
policy
options.
I
will
note
that,
when
asked
about
the
amount
of
time,
I
had
suggested
20
to
30
minutes
for
a
presentation
from
our
consultant,
so
I
just
want
everyone
to
be
prepared
that
it
will
be
a
more
lengthy
presentation
and
I
would
invite
katie
topinka
to
speak
first
and
lead
the
conversation
from
the
staff
and
consultant's
point
of
view.
AK
Thank
you,
chair,
goodman
and
committee
members.
We
are
here
today.
We
have
two
consultants
with
us,
we'll
introduce
in
a
moment
to
present
to
you
policy
options
for
an
opportunity
to
purchase
policy,
the
subject
matter
for
an
opportunity
to
purchase
or
or
write
a
first
refusal
policy
was
introduced
last
year
and
the
council
received
a
presentation
on
washington,
dc's
tenant
opportunity
to
purchase
act
in
a
study
session
last
september.
AK
Since
that
time,
the
city
engaged
with
the
coalition
for
non-profit
housing
and
economic
development
and
out
of
washington,
d.c
and
twin
cities
lisk
to
do
an
analysis
of
our
market
talk
to
stakeholders
and
bring
forward
policy
options
for
your
consideration.
So
today,
scott
burton
from
cnagd
and
gretchen,
nicholls
from
twin
cities
list,
will
present
these
policy
options.
AK
We
given,
as
chair
goodman,
noted,
there's
a
lot
of
information
to
get
through
in
a
relatively
short
amount
of
time,
so
we
would
recommend
that
questions
be
held
until
the
end
as
much
as
possible,
because
there
is
a
lot
of
content
to
get
through
and
then.
Finally,
in
addition
to
myself
and
the
consultants,
andrea
brennan,
kim
keller
and
joel
fussy
from
the
city
attorney's
office
are
here
to
answer
questions
from
staff
or
if
there
are
questions
for
staff.
Excuse
me
so
with
that.
AK
I
will
turn
it
over
to
ms
nichols
and
mr
burton
and
I
believe,
gretchen
is
going
to
kick
off
the
presentation.
AG
AG
AG
We
are
in
unprecedented
times,
and
housing,
stability
and
racial
inequalities
continue
to
plague
our
community,
disrupting
health
safety
and
the
well-being
of
our
most
vulnerable
residents.
The
policy
options
presented
today
are
in
response
to
three
proposed
objectives:
enabling
tenants
rights
to
counteract
displacement
and
expanding,
affordable
housing
options
and
supporting
new
pathways
to
home
ownership.
AG
AG
Yet
offer
the
ability
to
mix
and
match
or
plug
and
play
key
elements
to
offer
further
refine
or
approach
the
to
further
refine
or
approach
that
best
fits
the
local
context.
The
options
also
try
to
take
into
account
the
projected
budget
challenges
facing
the
city
and
the
need
to
minimize
additional
financial
and
administrative
obligations.
AG
AG
AG
We
identified
that
national
and
local
data
indicates
that
about
30
percent
of
multi-family
property
sales,
utilize
1031
exchange
options.
The
green
column
is
a
breakdown
of
the
five
plus
unit
properties
that
used
1031s
in
2019
to
save
time,
we're
going
to
skip
forward
to
slide
9
and
I'll
hand
it
off
to
scott
burton.
AL
Okay,
hi
everyone,
so
as
part
of
the
research
process
we
began
with,
we
looked
into
about
a
little
over
a
dozen
other
jurisdictions
around
the
country
that
had
either
implemented
or
were
in
the
process
of
implementing
opportunity
to
purchase
programs.
The
oldest
was
washington
dc
that
instituted
it
back
in
1980,
and
it
was
quickly
followed
by
a
suburb
of
washington,
montgomery
county
maryland.
I
won't
this
table
is
not
meant
to
go
into
all
of
these,
but
we
did
go
through
each
of
these.
AL
We
evaluated
their
different
primary
characteristics,
looked
into
how
they
were
operated
and
the
different
types
of
housing
they
focused
on,
as
well
as
the
different
ways
that
they
were
implemented,
and
these
eight
here
were
the
one
where
this
the
jurisdictions
that
influenced
most
the
three
options
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
today
that
we've
prepared
for
you
go
ahead
and
go
on
to
the
next
slide.
AL
Okay,
wonderful
thanks!
So
we're
going
to
be
talking
with
you
about
three
different
options
in
talking
with
the
city
staff
team,
as
well
as
in
going
through
the
50-plus
interviews
with
stakeholders,
and
I
guess
we're
getting
close
to
20
focus
groups
that
we've
conducted
now
with
groups
of
stakeholders.
AL
We
divided
the
options
up
into
three
different
ones.
These
three
different
options
are
roughly
based
on
three
different
examples
from
other
jurisdictions
option.
One
is
based
on
loosely
on
washington
dc's
model
option.
Two
is
based
on
the
berkeley
california
model,
which
berkeley
is
currently
in
the
process
of
adopting
and
option.
AL
Three
is
based
on
the
san
francisco
california
model,
and
we
felt
that,
based
on
the
conversations
we've
had
with
all
of
those
folks
through
interviews
and
focus
groups
that
these
sort
of
these
three
different
options,
kind
of
epitomize,
the
different
choices
that
the
stakeholders
were
particularly
interested
in
both
government
non-government
stakeholders
in
pursuing
and
I'll
go
through
those
options.
In
a
second
with
each
of
the
options
we
divided
properties
up
by
size
in
order
to
try
to
tailor
the
different
timelines
and
applicable
rules
to
the
particular
sizes
of
properties
in
other
jurisdictions.
AL
For
example,
in
washington
dc
five
plus
unit
properties
are
all
grouped
together
in
trying
to
have
these
further
breakdowns.
We
wanted
to
tailor
timelines
and
particular
rules
to
make
them
have
as
little
impact
as
possible
on
the
the
multi-family
or
single-family
housing
market,
and
so
you
can
go
ahead
and
go
to
the
next
slide
and
we'll
start
with
option
one
so
option.
One
focuses
on
tenants,
rights
and
preventing
displacement
of
tenants
and
existing
tenant
communities
in
option
one.
AL
Only
a
tenant
in
a
single
family
unit
or
a
tenant
organization
in
a
multi-family
property
may
exercise
rights
option
one
provides
the
residents
of
a
property
with
the
greatest
amount
of
discretion
in
choosing
development
options
and
the
future
of
their
community.
This
option
does
not
require
the
preservation
of
or
the
increase
in,
affordability
at
the
property.
It
also
allows
tenants
to
assign
their
rights
to
a
third
party
of
their
choice
that
could
be
to
an
individual
or
an
organization,
a
corporate
entity.
AL
We
do
note
and
we'll
get
into
this
event
later,
that
with
option
one
and
two
which
do
have
rights
for
tenants
that
city
funding
for
the
provision
of
technical
assistance.
The
tenant
organizations
by
community-based
non-profits
is
highly
recommended
to
increase
the
successful
exercise
of
the
opportunity
to
purchase.
AL
AL
So
don't
worry,
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
all
of
this.
We
have
put
together
process
or
flowchart
diagrams
for
options,
one
two
and
three
which
we're
happy
to
utilize
in
the
question
and
answer
period
to
help.
You
understand
the
decision-making
tree
that
tenants
have
in
each
of
the
options
and
it's
just
a
color
coding.
The
red
box
at
the
top
represents
the
starting
of
the
process.
AL
Green
boxes
represent
tenant
choices
in
the
process
and
the
yellow
boxes
represent
if
a
tenant
starts
to
work
with
a
development
partner
and
the
blue
boxes
represent
the
ultimate
outcomes
of
the
different
decision
making
trees.
You
can
go
ahead
and
move
on
option.
2
balances
the
interests
of
the
residents
of
a
property
and
deciding
the
future
of
their
community
with
the
policy
priorities
of
increased
tenant
protections
and
rent
stabilization
in
option.
Two,
a
tenant,
a
tenant
organization
or
a
qualified
organization
are
able
to
exercise
these
rights.
AL
Tenants
may
exercise
their
rights
and
assign
them
an
option
to
the
tenant
in
a
single
family
unit
may
assign
their
rights
to
a
person
or
an
entity.
A
tenant
organization
in
a
two
to
four
unit
property
may
assign
them
to
a
person
or
entity,
and
then
a
tenant
organization
and
a
five
plus
unit
property
may
assign
its
rights
to
a
qualified
organization.
AL
The
limitation
of
in
a
five
plus
unit
property
of
assigning
it
to
a
qualified
organization
is
that-
and
this
is
again
based
on
the
berkeley
model
and
somewhat
on
the
san
francisco
model.
Is
that
the
tenant,
the
sorry
the
city
in
this
case
sets
up
criteria
that
developers
would
then
have
to
apply
to
be
certified
based
on
those
criteria
to
be
a
qualified
organization.
Those
would
be
such
things
as
experience
running
a
multi-family
property
experience,
working
with
affordable
housing
properties,
experience.
AL
The
reason
that
we
did
not
restrict
to
a
qualified
organization
for
single
unit
or
two
to
four
unit
properties
is
that
we
got
feedback
from
government
employees
as
well
as
from
stakeholders
that
single
family
and
two
to
four
unit
are
the
way
that
many
bypass
developers
come
into
the
market
and,
while
a
qualified
organization
for
a
five
plus
would
need
a
track
record,
we
wanted
to
have
a
way
into
the
multi-family
market,
where
less
experienced
developers
or
developers
of
color
who
had
had
trouble
getting
into
the
market
would
still
have
a
means
to
enter
the
market,
gain
levels
of
experience
and
then
be
able
to
qualify
to
be
a
qualified
organization.
AL
So
any
person
or
entity
that
purchases
a
property
using
the
opportunity
to
purchase
policy
and
continues
its
use
as
a
rental
housing
accommodation.
That
means
they
don't
buy.
It
say
like
a
single
family
property
to
live
in
or
convert
it
to
a
condominium
of
cooperatives
would
be
required
by
the
city
to
abide
by
just
cause
addiction,
source
of
income,
discrimination,
protections
and
risk
stabilization
restrictions.
AL
We
realize
that,
for
a
variety
of
reasons,
minneapolis
does
not
have
just
cause
eviction
restrictions.
The
reason
you
would
be
able
to
do
that
under
this
option.
This
program
is
that
you
would
be
signing
the
developer
would
be
signing
on
voluntarily
to
exercise
this
right
same
thing
with
source
of
income
discrimination
protections.
AL
We
know
that
there
are
such
protections
in
law
now,
but
they're
being
challenged
in
court,
and
we
include
this
here
in
case
that
was
challenged
in
case
that
challenge
wins
in
court
and
that
law
does
not
go
forward
and
same
thing
with
rent
stabilization
restrictions.
We
realize
that
those
are
not
allowed
under
minnesota
law,
but
because
this
is
a
voluntary
program,
those
can
be
a
restriction.
That's
placed
on
the
exercise
of
the
right
as
with
option
one.
We
do
recommend
that
the
city
provide
technical
assistance
funding
to
enable
community-based
organizations
to
assist
tenant
organizations.
AL
Okay,
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
the
next
one
option:
three
option
three
focuses
on
preventing
displacement
of
tenants
and
existing
tenant
communities
and
preserving
or
increasing
affordability
under
option.
Three.
Only
qualified
organizations
that
have
met
certain
criteria
for
owning
and
managing
affordable
properties
set
by
the
city
may
exercise
rights
under
option.
AL
Three
tenants
have
no
rights
to
have
a
say
in
the
disposition
of
the
property,
by
limiting
exercising
the
opportunity
to
purchase
to
qualified
organizations
option
three
minimizes
the
time
needed
to
evaluate
a
property
submitted,
offer
respond
to
an
offer,
secure,
financing
and
close
a
deal.
This
is
the
model
that
has
been
adopted
by
the
city
of
san
francisco
in
california,
and
this
is
the
model
that
tries
to
insert
it
or
to
influence
or
to
change
the
market
dynamics
or
the
timeline
of
the
of
the
normal
market
in
the
normal
selling
and
closing
on
a
property.
AL
I'm
happy
in
the
question
and
answer
period
to
go
into
why
we
chose
that
as
the
particular
restriction
for
income
and
rent
restricting
the
properties
we
well
I'll.
Just
leave
it
at
that.
I'm
happy
to
go
into
more
details
for
why
we
wanted
why
we
chose
that
one
you
can
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
the
next
slide,
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
the
next
one.
AL
Okay,
I
have
no
fear,
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
all
of
this.
This
diagram
represents
that
what
I
talked
about
earlier,
where
we
have
broken
down
the
three
options
by
different
unit
sizes
and
you
can
see
for
the
different
stages
in
the
process.
The
registration
of
interest
negotiation
period
accept
acceptance
of
offer
and
write
a
first
refusal,
secure
financing
and
closing
that
as
the
units
get
smaller
in
each
option,
the
time
to
exercise
those
particular
stages
of
the
process
gets
smaller
and
so
for
a
two
to
four
unit.
AL
The
total
time
to
exercise
all
of
the
stages
is
significantly
shorter
than
if
you're
dealing
with
a
50
plus
unit
building
you'll
also
notice
that
in
option
three,
the
number
of
days
for
each
of
the
options
or
the
stages
of
the
option
are
even
more
even
significantly
smaller
than
option
one
and
two,
and
then
I
will
note
in
option
two
four
times:
when
tenants
choose
not
to
exercise
their
option
and
a
qualified
developer
decides
to
exercise
their
option,
then
the
timelines
for
particular
stages
of
the
process
are
the
same
as
those
for
option
three.
AL
AL
Okay,
we
also
received
many
questions
from
staff
and
stakeholders
about
what
would
be
the
difference
between
the
how
the
current
market
works
and
the
days
that
any
of
these
options
would
add
to
the
normal
process,
and
so
we've
used
costar
data
for
five
plus
unit
properties.
Here,
to
give
you
both
average
days
on
the
market
and
the
highest
number
of
days
on
the
market,
because
not
all
properties
are
equal
and
some
have
varying
circumstances
with
the
two
right
hand
columns.
AL
We
give
you
the
maximum
days
that
would
be
allowable
under
the
timeline
restrictions,
and
you
can
compare
that
and
in
the
question
and
answer
we're
happy
to
go
into
that
more
for
single
family
and
two
to
four
units.
We
just
recently
received
information
from
the
realtors
association
and
we're
digesting
that
data
and
we'll
be
adding
that
into
this
table
for
the
final
report.
You
can
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
the
next
slide.
AL
There
are
for
each
of
these
options:
exemptions
if
an
owner
of
a
property
believes
that
they
are
exempt
based
on
one
of
these,
that
they
would
file
a
notice
of
transfer.
That
tenants
would
be
able
to
challenge
to
make
sure
that
it's
not
specious
and
the
exemptions
which
I'm
happy
to
go
through
in
q,
a
are
of
two
main
types:
one
based
on
property
type,
the
second
based
on
type
of
transfer.
AL
I
will
note
specifically
here
that
we
do
recommend
exempting
single-family
homes
owned
by
a
real
person
as
their
sole
residential
rental
property.
I'm
happy
to
go
into
that
in
more
detail
as
to
why
that's
important
and
for
types
of
transfers
that
cover
certain
types
of
corporate
and
family
transfers,
as
well
as
court-ordered
transfers.
You
can
go
ahead
and
go
on
to
the
next
slide.
AL
We've
done
that
and
I'm
happy
again
to
go
up
through
q
a
with
this,
but
we've
grouped
it
by
standard
administrative
enforcement
responsibilities,
and
then
we
have
some
that
are
specific
to
option
two
and
three
that
deal
with
managing
the
qualified
organization
selection
process,
as
well
as
the
restrictions
that
go
with
exercising
those
rights.
You
can
go
ahead
and
move
forward
staffing
requirements.
AL
Staff
asked
us
also
to
recommend
staffing
requirements
based
on
the
models
in
other
jurisdictions
and
how
these
these
work
we
and
go
ahead
and
go
move
forward,
trying
to
be
conscious
of
time.
You,
oh
thank
you
I'll,
boil
this
down
very
quickly,
based
on
examples
in
other
cities.
AL
We
recommend
that
the
city
should
consider
funding.
Excuse
me
up
to
oh
sorry.
We
skipped,
I
think
we
might
have
skipped
up
I'll,
just
go
ahead
and
go
back
one.
Second,
my
apologies
staffing
requirements.
Thanks
that
we
recommend
there
there
would
need
to
be.
AL
Thanks
also
for
technical
assistance,
we
recommend
up
to
eight
ftes
for
technical
assistance,
for
a
community-based
non-profits
to
provide
technical
assistance.
AL
So
now
for
the
q,
a
section
we
do
have
a
sort
of
a
list
of
the
responsibilities
or
the
decisions
that
the
council
will
need
to
make.
They
would
be
picking
option
one
two
or
three
or
doing
kind
of
a
mix
and
match
between,
for
example,
option
two
could
have
a
requirement
of
using
the
4d
program
instead
of
rent
stabilization
but
picking
the
options
and
the
main
components
to
it.
AL
In
picking
those
options,
you
would
need
to
determine
whether
you're
going
to
allow
assignability
of
rights
and,
if
you're,
going
to
limit
it
to
qualified
organizations
or
to
the
tenants
unit
size.
Do
you
want
to
allow
everything
from
single
family
on
up
or
do
you
want
to
have
exemptions
for
single-family
or
smaller
properties,
age
of
properties?
AL
What
what
criteria
do
you
want
to
put
on
being
a
qualified
organization
for
option
two
or
three,
and
then
what
types
of
exemptions
do
you
have
want
to
have
for
any
of
the
options?
You
can
go
ahead
and
move
forward
and
that's
the
end,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
I'm
sure
gretchen
has
as
well.
Thank
you
for
going
along
with
us
on
that
whirlwind
presentation.
B
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
presentation.
Obviously
that
is
a
lot
of
very
complicated
and
detailed
intellectual
data.
So
I'm
not
even
sure
I
kept
up
with
the
entire
presentation
and
I'm
known
for
being
relatively
intelligent.
So
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
that
we're
not
going
to
really
be
able
to
have
a
conversation
here,
because
I'm
not
sure
I
really
even
understand
the
basics
when
three
options
are
being
thrown
at
me
and
I'm
down
to
just
like
a
handful
of
very
very
basic
questions.
B
So
I'll
see
who,
on
the
committee
would
like
to
ask
questions.
This
is
a
receive
and
file.
There
are
several
authors
on
the
committee,
so
they're,
probably
more
educated
than
some
of
the
rest
of
us.
So
I'll
just
see.
If
any
of
them
have
questions,
I
don't
want
to
dominate
the
amount
of
time
we
have
left.
K
Thank
you,
sir
goodman.
I
first
and
foremost
want
to
just
thank
lisk
and
scott
for
all
of
their
work.
It
is,
it
is
a
lot
we're
really
working
hard
to
to
get
this
policy
up
and
running.
I
think
I
for
my
colleagues
the
things
to
look
at
or
which
I
I
think
are
very
intuitive.
It's
just
how
how
long
the
the
time
is
to
have
these
rights.
I
think
it's
worth
noting
that
these
would
be
new
rights
that
we
would
be
having
in
the
city
for
tenants.
K
I
think
that
part's
very
exciting,
but,
of
course
this
always
comes
at
the
kind
of
the
legal
trade-offs
you
know
we
are
going
to
be
looking
at.
You
know
how
long
does
the
homeowner
or
the
landowner
have
their
rights
a
little
bit
infringed
upon,
and
I
thought
one
of
the
smartest
parts
was
kind
of
the
tiering
likes
for
the
bigger
units,
the
bigger
buildings.
You
know
we
had
a
little
bit
more
time
as
opposed
to
some
of
the
smaller
ones.
K
B
D
Thank
you.
I
was
trying
to
scroll
back
to
the
presentation,
so
this
is
often
awful.
A
lot
of
information.
I
was
wondering
one
of
the
the
key
issues
seemed
to
be
in
some
of
the
options.
The
tenants
have
a
right
to
maybe
sell
their
option
or
trade
it
or
assign
it
to
somebody,
and
why?
What
are
the
benefits
of
having
that,
and
why
would
there
be
some
options
that
don't
allow
that
I'm
just
wondering?
Is
there
a
rationale
it
seems
like?
Then
we
move
up
to
options
two.
D
AL
That's
an
ex
excellent
question,
sir.
It
when
washington
dc
instituted
its
program
40
years
ago,
their
main
intent
was
to
mitigate
gentrification
and
displacement,
and
so
they
allowed
tenants
to
do
everything
from
assign
their
rights
for
consideration.
That
would
be
say
a
buyout
to
move
out
of
the
property
to
converting
it
to
a
condo
or
allowing
the
developer.
They
would
partner
with
to
make
it
an
upscale
rental
property.
AL
As
long
as
the
tenants
got
to
stay
in
the
property
and
so
yes
option,
one
does
allow
tenants
to
receive
consideration
either
a
payment
or
other
types
of
consideration
in
exchange
for
assigning
their
right,
and
it
allows
basically
the
tenants
of
the
community
to
make
what
they
think
is
the
best
decision
for
them
option.
Two,
as
you
noted,
does
put
limits
on
that
and
the
reason
it
is.
AL
There
are
some
folks
who
have
concerns
or
who
voiced
concerns
about
tenants
having
that
much
discretion
and
then,
as
you
noted,
option,
three
eliminates
all
discretion
for
tenants,
and
so
we
try
to
leave
it
as
much
open
to
a
policy
decision,
because
this
is
really
not
a
cost
benefit
analysis.
Here.
This
is
a
a
choice
to
change
the
dynamics
of
the
rental
housing
market
by
instituting
a
policy
like
that,
and
so
we
tried
to
give
the
council
a
broad
spectrum
of
available
choices
in
how
they
wanted
to
make
that
intervention.
D
So
do
you
think
if
the
tenants
don't
hold
on
to
that
right,
they're
more
likely
to
be
displaced
then
because
they
won't
have
the
same
kind
of
leverage.
AL
That
is
a
tough
question.
Tenants
will
have
with
any
of
these
three
options,
far
more
leveraged
than
they
do
under
the
current
system
today
in
minneapolis,
and
I
personally
worked
with
a
group
of
tenants
in
my
previous
job,
where
the
tenants
of
a
section
8
property
negotiated
with
the
developer,
to
assign
their
rights
and
that
developer
built
a
high-rise,
high
income
building
on
one
half
the
property
and
a
section
8
and
low
income,
housing
tax,
credit
building
on
the
other,
half
of
the
property,
retaining
the
property,
but
also
each
tenant.
AL
Each
house,
each
household
at
the
property,
was
received,
125
000,
which,
for
these
households
was
life-changing
money,
and
so
there
are
all
types
of
possibilities.
But
I
can
talk
to
other
times
where
tenants
took
a
few
thousand
dollars
because
they
were
not
adequately
informed
of
their
rights
were
not
adequately
informed
of
their
rights
and
took
an
uninformed
buyout
that
had
little
impact
and
could
have
paid
for
very
little
beyond
their
moving
expenses.
AL
And
so
that's
why
one
could
either
consider
limiting
what
they
can
do
say
with
option
two,
but
still
allowing
them
the
right
or
you
could.
If
you
provide
enough
funding
for
tenants
to
receive
assistance
from
community-based
non-profits,
you
could
provide
them
with
well-educated
and
experienced
guidance
on
making
choices.
I
I
do
like
to
when
we've
done
the
focus
groups,
I
like
to
remind
folks
that
no
housing
developer
goes
through
buying
and
selling
of
properties
all
on
their
own.
They
all
hire
lawyers,
they
all
hire
development
experts,
they
all
hire.
D
Well,
thank
you
very
much
and
I
know
it's
getting
late
in
the
day
here.
I
just
want
to
say
thanks
for
providing
all
this
information,
I
think
council
councilmember
schrader
and
I
and
fletcher
and
others
who
are
working
on
this-
have
our
work
cut
out
for
us
now.
D
I
think
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
this
we're
going
to
be
certainly
going
back
to
our
external
community
partners
and
getting
their
impression
of
it,
and
then
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
start
crafting-
probably
a
hybrid
or
of
some
kind
over
these
options
and
then
bringing
it
back
to
our
colleagues
and
to
kind
of
see
where
we
think
there
is
some
support
for
this,
and
certainly
also
working
with
our
cped
staff,
and
I
really
want
to
extend
my
gratitude
to
tapinka
and
all
of
the
cped
group.
D
B
Through
I
was
just
trying
to
be
polite
to
everybody.
I
do
appreciate
you
saying
that
we
might
have
something
that
isn't
one
of
these
three
options,
but
a
hybrid
of
all
of
them.
I'm
wondering
if
the
consultant
could
tell
me
what,
where
there
is
a
legal
opinion
that
says
we
can
do
any
of
these
things.
B
So
I'm
I'm
a
little
bit
afraid
that
we
have
kind
of
like
a
wish
list
of
things.
We
want
to
do
without
any
legal
analysis
of
whether
or
not
we
have
the
right
to
delay
a
sale.
Do
we
have
the
right
to
force
a
just
cause
eviction?
Do
we
have
the
right
to
tell
developers
or
purchasers
that
they
have
to
pay
off
tenants?
Where
is
the
legal
analysis
that
says
under
minnesota
law,
which
is
different
than
california
law
that
we
have
the
right
to
do
any
of
this.
AL
B
AL
So
again,
I'm
not
a
lawyer.
We
were
not
tasked
with
providing
legal
opinions
on
these
things,
but
I'll
just
remind
what
I
mentioned
in
the
in
the
presentation
is
that
these
are
not
requirements.
These
are
voluntarily
opting
in,
and
so,
if
a
developer
or
tenants
wish
to
exercise
that
right,
they
would
be
voluntarily
opting
into
an
agreement
or
a
restriction
where
they
would
abide
by
these.
It's
not
a
legal,
it's
not
a
legal
requirement.
B
Okay,
I'm
okay,
I'm
not
going
to
debate
you!
I'm
just
simply
going
to
ask
these
questions.
What
is
the
public
purpose
of
requiring
this
for
market
rate
and
above
market
rate
properties?
I
can
understand
the
public
purpose
involved
in
trying
to
preserve
affordable,
section,
8
and
noaa
type
properties,
but
I
can't
understand
why
we
would
want
a
very
expensive
apartment.
Building
the
tenants
to
say:
hey
we'd
rather
have
a
condo
than
an
apartment,
so
we're
going
to
stand
in
the
way
of
a
sale
for
what
purpose
expanding
home
ownership.
B
AL
So
we
aren't
recommending
that
you
pick
any
particular
option,
we're
just
providing
the
the
kind
of
spectrum
of
possibilities
for
you
for
option,
one
where
there
are
no
affordability
restrictions.
B
AL
C
B
AL
So
that
is
not
for
me
to
speak
to
that
option
reflects
what's
been
done
in
other
jurisdictions,
as
well
as
the
feedback
we
received
from
the
many
stakeholder
interviews
and
focus
groups,
and
so
we
were
tasked
with
coming
up
with
a
variety
of
options
that
reflected
the
spectrum
of
interests,
and
it's
ultimately
up
to
the
council
to
determine
which
values
you
want
to
reflect
in
one
of
these
policies
or
a
combination
of
these
policies
or
programs,
if
you
so
choose
to
adopt
them.
B
So,
who
in
the
focus
groups,
was
interested
in
preserving
above
market
rate
and
market
rate
properties
over
noah
or
others
who
were
the?
What
kind
of
person
would
even
come
to
a
first
focus
group
and
suggest
that
a
very
high-end
apartment
building
should
be
converted
to
condos
and
that's
a
public
interest
as
it
pertains
to
affordable
housing,
which
is
actually
in
displacement?
Which
is
why
I
thought
we
were
doing
this.
AG
So
the
general
principle
of
attendance
rights
is
that
all
tenants,
as
in
that
role,
has
the
right
to
activate
their
right
to
purchase.
So
it's
not
to
say
that
only
lower
income
residents
should
have
a
right.
It's
to
say
that
all
attendants
should
have
a
right
to
make
those
choices
and
decisions.
So
that
was
the
perspective
that
we're
reflecting
in
these
options.
B
Thank
you
that
would
answer
the
question.
I
appreciate
that
I'm
you
know
when
you
sell
a
property,
the
private
markets
require
like
20
down.
Sometimes
it's
even
more.
It
sounds
like
you're
talking
about
a
set
equity
requirement
at
five
percent.
How
will
that
work?
If,
if
the
people
financing
these
deals,
want
a
higher
amount
down?
Where
will
that
kind
of
money
come
from,
if
not
from
the
government.
AL
Oh,
that's
an
excellent
question,
so
in
a
single
family
situation
that
would
be
the
the
like
the
responsibility
of
the
individual
or
household
that
was
trying
to
buy
same
with
two
to
four
in
single
family
or
two
to
four
as
an
individual
or
family.
You
can
actually
get
the
type
of
financing
to
pull
off
the
purchase
of
a
property.
AL
The
financing
systems
in
place
for
those
sizes
of
properties
are
not
conducive
to
either
a
single
tenant
or
a
group
of
tenants
coming
together,
and
so
the
normal
way
that
tenants
in
these
circumstances
exercise
their
rights
is
by
assigning
their
right
to
a
developer
that
they
partner
with.
So
that
said,
if
they
were
to
form
a
limited
equity
cooperative
you're,
absolutely
right,
they
would
have
to
have
government
assistance
in
putting
down
a
deposit
on
that
five
percent
deposit
on
the
property.
B
Why
would
we
want
to
delay
a
sale
for
up
to
a
year?
Why
would
government
want
to
be
involved
in
delaying
the
sale
of
properties?
It's
a
small
amount
of
time
I
can
understand,
but
under
the
very
quick
chart
I
just
saw.
I
don't
have
this
presentation
in
writing.
It
said
it
could
be
up
to
365
days
of
a
delayed
sale
and
I'm
also
interested
in
why
you've
eliminated
a
1031
exchange.
I
I
mean
I
was
the
author
of
advance
notice,
so
I
kind
of
know
the
pitfalls
on
some
of
these
things.
AL
Okay,
so
first
was
so
first
of
the
question
of:
why
would
a
government
want
to
adopt
one
of
these
programs
and
intervene
in
this
way?
The
answer
is
that
the
government
would
be
making
a
value
choice
if
you
chose
to
do
this
and
saying
that
it
is
worthwhile
to
give
people
who
live
in
the
community
who
live
in
that
particular
property,
the
right
to
have
a
say
in
what
happens,
because
now
you
mentioned
the
1031
exchange
and
the
quickness
with
which
sales
can
happen.
AL
Basically
the
way
the
market
works.
Now
is
it
prioritizes
who
can
come
up
with
the
money
the
fastest,
and
so
I
think,
minneapolis
has
experienced
that
hedge
funds
are
coming
in
and
buying
up
a
lot
of
properties.
Ever
since
the
great
recession,
hedge
funds
are
usually
able
to
out
compete,
others
because
they
have
cash
on
hand,
and
they
don't
even
need
to
get
a
loan.
AL
They
just
pay
the
cash
without
getting
a
mortgage
and
so
and
so
that
prioritizes
a
certain
type
of
buyer
at
a
certain
type
of
sale,
and
also
that
changes
the
nature
of
your
rental
or
ownership
market.
If
you
choose
a
policy
like
this
or
a
program
like
this,
then
you
are
intervening
in
the
market
and
the
the
the
real
estate
market
is
one
of
the
most
heavily
intervened.
AL
So
this
is
not
a
new
thing.
There's
all
types
of
public
good
that
jurisdictions
around
the
country.
Intervene
in
you
know
like
the
process,
for
is
to
say
that
the
highest
value
is
not
selling
to
who
whomever
has
the
most
money
and
can
close
fastest,
that
there
are
other
values
that
the
council
may
choose
to
prioritize
over
that
and
other
outcomes
that
the
council
may
choose
to
prioritize
over
that.
AL
As
for
the
question
about
1031
exchanges,
san
francisco
specifically
put
in
its
law
that
a
qualified
developer,
exercising
rights
under
that
program
under
the
community
opportunity
to
purchase
at
copa
should
make
best
efforts
to
collaborate
with
the
owner
of
the
property
to
time
the
sale
and
the
closing
of
the
property
to
enable
the
property
owner
to
engage
in
a
1031
exchange,
and
that's
why
that's
a
significant
portion
for
why
they
have
the
significantly
shorter
timelines.
AL
AL
AG
AL
Digested
that
is
an
important
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
with
this
program,
which
is
different
than
washington.
Dc's
model
is
that
we
split
it
split
the
rights
up
into
the
right
of
first
offer
and
the
right
of
first
refusal
the
right
of
first
offer,
which
is
the
45
days
that
gretchen
was
mentioning
say
for
a
50
unit,
building
or
less
for
smaller
buildings.
AL
If
tenants
or
a
qualified
organization
do
not
file
with
the
city
and
with
the
owner
of
the
property,
a
statement
of
interest
in
purchasing
the
property
within
that
say,
first
20
or
45
days,
depending
on
the
timeline,
that's
applicable,
then
the
owner
of
the
property
is
free
to
sell
to
anyone
on
the
third
party
market
and
so
that,
whereas
other
jurisdictions
don't
provide
surety
for
many
months
to
a
property
owner
as
to
whether
or
not
the
tenants
are
going
to
be
involved.
AL
The
property
owner
under
any
of
the
three
options
that
we're
talking
about
here
would
know
if
the
tenants
or
a
qualified
organization
would
be
involved
in
the
process
within
at
most
45
days,
and
that's
for
50
plus
unit
buildings.
When
tenants
are
involved,
and
so
that
that
we
believe,
provides
more
clarity
and
insurance
to
a
property
owner
if
the
tenants
are
not
going
to
be
engaged
at
all,
so
I.
B
I
have
eight
more
questions
and
I
see
what
time
it
is.
So
I
guess
I
would
just
say
to
my
colleagues
who
think
this
is
going
to
be
simple
and
we
should
move
it
fast.
There
are
questions
about
staffing,
I'm
hearing
up
to
eight
staff
on
the
outside
and
four
to
two
to
four
on
the
inside.
I
don't
know
how
that
would
be
paid
for
sounds
like
the
people
who
manage
and
own
real
estate
are
vehemently
against
this.
B
So
litigation
will
follow,
probably
no
matter
what
unlike
advance
notice,
where
we
were
able
to
get
to
a
place
cooperatively,
so
I'm
not
sure
kind
of
what
the
next
step
is
for
me
to
get
all
these
questions
answered,
since
this
is
the
first
time
I'm
seeing
this
presentation,
yet
four
of
the
members
of
the
council
have
been
working
on
it
as
they
would
argue
for
a
whole
year.
B
So
I'm
not
sure
I
mean
we're
going
to
receive
and
file
this
today,
but
I
mean
I
have
a
lot
more
questions
than
the
very
few
that
I
answered
asked,
and
they
were
gracious
enough
to
give
me
personally
15
minutes
of
time.
During
this
presentation
sounds
like
there
needs
to
be
a
lot
more
conversation,
I'll
just
say
that
and
having
everyone
who
represents
those
who
own
property
being
against.
This
is
just
absolute
blueprint
for
litigation,
and
then
it
wouldn't
be
put
into
place
anyway.
B
So
all
of
this
work
would
almost
be
for
naught
if
we
don't
get
to
a
place
where
property
owners,
realtors
managers,
single-family
homeowners,
who
are
going
to
find
out,
they
can't
sell
their
property,
are
upset
about
it.
Then
it's
just
not
nothing's
going
to
happen
and
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
do
right
by
tenants
fast
anyway.
So
I
would
urge
us
to
really
look
through
some
of
these
questions
and
take
them
seriously,
and
I
bet
others
have
questions
as
well.
This
was
a
very
fast
report.
B
D
All
right,
thank
you
very
much,
and
I
appreciate
the
discussion
that
we've
been
able
to
have
today.
It's
really
valuable.
I
know
we
did
actually
have
early
on
in
this.
We
had
some
deeper
study
session
opportunities
that
we
invited
folks
to,
as
we
were
beginning
digging
in
on
this,
and
we
certainly
will
be
digging
in
on
in
the
future.
D
I
will
note
that
in
many
of
those
groups
that
you
listed,
who
you
thought
everyone
was
opposed
to
it
I'm
in
there-
and
I
love
this
idea,
so
I
think
you'll
we'll
actually
find
a
lot
of
property
owners
think
that
this
is
a
reasonable
and
helpful
thing
and
it
can
really
bring
some
some
good
to
our
community
and
we'll,
certainly,
I'm
certainly
committed
to
helping
bring
more
of
those
on
board
in
in
the
days
ahead.
I
also
think
it
might
be
helpful.
D
It
was
helpful
here
to
get
some
advanced
notice
of
your
questions,
but
if
you
want
to
even
forward
those
to
us,
we
can
look
at
those,
and
I
think
that
staff
and
council
members
would
be
happy
to
and
brief
and
talk
one-on-one
with
our
colleagues
as
we
move
forward.
I
think
one
of
the
reasons
we're
not
taking
any
action
today
except
to
receive
and
file.
It
is
so
that
we
have
some
time
to
sleep
on
this,
so
we
have
some
time
to
hear
the
way
other
people
are
responding
to
the
report.
D
So
I
appreciate
that
this
is
a
big
step,
a
difficult
step,
a
challenging
step,
one
we
might
have
to
take
in
phases,
but
we
are
on
our
way-
and
I
think
this
actually
could
have
a
a
major
impact
on
addressing
some
of
the
biggest
problems
we're
facing
as
a
city
in
terms
of
our
housing
and
the
crisis
that
we
find
ourselves
in.
So
I'm
excited
about
moving
on
and
getting
to
the
next
steps.
I'm
not
thinking
we're
gonna,
probably
pass
anything
by
the
end
of
the
year.
B
Thank
you
councilmember,
gordon
I'll
note.
I
was
at
the
study
session.
If
the
authors
were
there
a
handful
of
other
people,
I
was
one
of
the
other
people
and
I've
seen
nothing
until
today.
So
and
that
was
a
very
dense
report
to
ask
and
my
notes
I
wanted
to
show
you
my
notes
of
questions
are
this.
I
don't
have
them
written
down
like
in
an
email
or
something
I've
just
been
taking
notes
from
the
screen,
for
I
don't
have
a
printer
or
any
paper
here
to
be
able
to
do
that.
B
K
I
think
sure
good
man
and
I
would
just
take
a
picture
of
your
notes-
send
them
to
councilmember
gordon
and
I
would
be
happy
to
answer
those,
and
some
of
this
is
there's.
There
are
answers
to
your
questions.
There's
been
a
lot
of
work
on
this
since
february,
since
the
consultants
have
been
reaching
out
to
stakeholders
and,
having
you
know,
very
in-depth
conversations
about
the
the
questions
you're
asking
you
know
this
is.
It
is
a
very
dense
policy.
K
I
think
there
is
a
lot
of
smart
answers
to
it
and,
like
council
member
gordon
said
we're
looking
at
this,
wouldn't
be
even
go
through
by
the
end
of
the
year
where
this
is
the
really
the
start
of
the
conversation.
We'd
love
to
have
a
much
longer
in-depth
presentation
on
this,
but
at
the
end
of
this
the
year
it
gets
tough
and
everything
gets
backed
up
a
little
bit
so
with
with
covet
and
all
of
that
happening.