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Minneapolis Transportation & Public Works Committee Meeting
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A
Good
morning,
this
is
the
regular
scheduled
meeting
of
the
transportation
Public
Works
Committee,
the
state
February
18
2020
I'm
councilman
Reich
I
chair
the
committee
and
I'm
joined
by
my
colleagues,
councilmembers
Johnson,
Palmisano,
bender,
Letcher
and
Gordon,
and
we're
a
full
complement
of
the
committee.
We'll
proceed
with
today's
agenda,
which
we
have
15
items,
including
hearings,
consent
items
and
discussion.
I'll
go
through
the
consent
items
committee
members
can
pull
them
at
their
wish
for
further
deliberation
item.
A
3
is
the
2020
Minneapolis
open
streets,
proving
that
list
of
routes
and
dates
for
is
the
highway
to
50
to
I-94
min
pass
expansion
project
5
is
the
contract
with
employee
strategies
for
training
for
Public
Works
Department
6
is
the
contract
with
park
mobile
for
mobile
payment
application
for
on
street
parking
7
is
the
grant
application
for
2020
Metropolitan
Council
regional
solicitation
for
federal
transportation
funds.
8
is
a
request
for
proposals
for
the
upper
harbour
terminal
redevelopment
project
planning,
engineering
services
for
Street
and
public
utility
infrastructure.
A
9
is
the
Industrial
Boulevard
multi-use
trail
an
appropriation
increase?
The
amounts
listed
10
is
the
president's
bicycle
boulevard
layout.
Approval
11
is
the
bid
for
1st
Street
north
over
Basset
Creek
tunnel
repair
project.
12
is
the
bid
for
the
Fridley
softening
plant
I
conduit
stop
logs
project.
13
is
a
bid
for
upgrades
on
Americans
with
Disabilities
Act
pedestrian
ramps.
14
is
the
bits
for
the
limiting
ramp
escalator
removal.
A
B
B
Thank
you.
This
is
a
resolution
about
this
project
on
Highway,
252
and
I-94
and
I.
Think
both
of
us
have
been
in
conversations
with
our
colleagues
from
words
four
and
five,
but
neither
of
them
could
make
it
to
committee
today,
they're,
not
on
the
committee,
so
I
think
this
14
without
recommendation
will
give
us
a
chance
to
make
sure
that
their
feedback
is
fully
incorporated
and
that
they
would
both
be
there
at
Council
to
make
any
comment
that
they
would
wish
to
on
this
resolution,
then.
D
Thank
You
mr.
chair
I,
don't
need
to
pull
it
for
discussion,
but
I
do
want
to
make
a
brief
comment
on
item
number
10.
This
has
been
a
long
time
coming
and
something
that
people
are
very
excited
about,
and
I
just
wanted
to
recognize
the
work
that
staff
did.
This
went
through
many
many
iterations
and
received
a
lot
of
community
feedback,
more
community
feedback
on
this,
and
particularly
the
intersection
I
hadn't,
been
in
fifth
and
probably
any
other
project.
D
That's
happened
in
in
Ward
3
this
this
year
and
the
layout
that
we're
approving
today
is
extremely
responsive
to
that
feedback.
I
think
it
solves
a
lot
of
the
problems
for
a
very
complex
intersection
with
a
lot
of
uses
and
I
think
it's
going
to
feel
safer
and
more
efficient
for
every
mode
of
travel.
Moving
forward,
so
I'm
very
excited
about
this
work.
I
want
to
thank
the
county
for
their
collaboration
with
us
on
this
and
just
recognize
good
work
where
it's
happening.
This
is
an
exciting
thing
to
vote
on
I.
A
Appreciate
highlighting
that
every
year
it's
almost
like
a
religious
ceremony
when
we
have
the
bike
to
work
and
we
go
to
that
intersection
and
lament
the
condition
of
that
intersection,
and
so
I
echo.
Your
comments
appreciate
your
calling
that
out
and
now
it's
gonna
be
much
safer
and
easier
for
me
to
visit
Ward
3
so
website.
A
E
Morning,
mr.
chair
members
of
the
committee,
we
have
two
public
hearings
today,
Mike
Kennedy,
the
director
of
transportation,
maintenance
and
repair
will
present
information
on
both
and
I
will
introduce
Mike
for
both
items
at
once.
The
first
is
first
Avenue
south
street
resurfacing,
and
the
second
is
fourth
Street,
northeast
and
and
residential
street
resurfacing.
Good.
C
Morning
Maury
mr.
chair
members
of
the
committee,
I
am
Mike
Kennedy,
director
transportation
may
Nancy
repair
for
Public
Works.
The
first
of
the
two
public
hearings
today
is
about
1st
Avenue
south
street
resurfacing
on
December
13th
2019,
the
City
Council
designated
the
location
streets
and
improvements
proposed
to
be
made
in
the
2020
street
resurfacing
program.
The
first
avenues
street
resurfacing
project
is
included
in
this
2020
program.
The
project
is
on
1st
Avenue
south.
As
you
can
see
on
the
map.
It's
a
municipal
state,
8th
Street
from
Lake
Street
to
40th.
C
Various
segments
of
the
street
is
actually
built
in
about
three
different
sections
over
several
years
and
the
waited
PCI
weighted-average
PCI
is
62
for
the
whole
segment.
Public
Works
is
also
planning
to
implement
pedestrian
and
bicycle
improvements
along
either
or
both
1st
Avenue
and
Blaisdell
Avenue,
as
part
of
what's
known
as
the
Whittier
Lindale
bike
way
project
in
2021,
the
planning,
design
and
outreach
of
these
pedestrian
and
bicycle
improvements
will
be
conducted
in
2020.
C
The
first
avenue
resurfacing
needs
to
be
completed
in
2020
to
address
the
rapidly
deteriorating
pavement
condition,
but
is
the
first
part
of
the
larger
Whittier
lyndale
project.
This
project
may
eventually
result.
It
may
eventually
result
in
changes
to
the
bike
lanes
along
this
portion
of
1st
Avenue
South,
so
the
2020
resurfacing
project
will
simply
restore
the
existing
bike
lanes
on
1st
Avenue
the
and
that
could
be
easily
modified
in
2021.
If
and
as
needed.
There
would
be
no
additional
assessments
associated
with
the
Whittier
lyndale
pedestrian
project
in
2022.
C
That
would
be
the
special
assessments
the
proposed
Street
and
resurfacing,
and
specialist
Cement
assessments
were
determined
by
applying
the
2020
uniform
assessment
rate
to
the
land
area
of
benefited
parcels
located
within
the
street
influence
zone.
These
assessments
were
not
calculated
based
on
the
project
cost
alone.
The
city
uses
a
formula
that
combines
influenced
area
with
an
annually
established
uniform
assessment
rate.
The
formula
is
carefully
considered
and
applied
by
city
staff
and
is
intended
to
account
and
reflect
for
each
interval
individual
projects
value
to
the
benefit
of
properties.
C
C
So
today
our
recommendation
is
passage
of
a
resolution
ordering
the
work
to
proceed
and
adopting
the
special
assessments
and
the
amount
of
two
hundred
eighty-five
thousand
two
hundred
thirty
two
dollars
and
twenty
three
cents
for
the
first
Avenue
street
resurfacing
project
and
passage
of
a
resolution
authorizing
and
requesting
the
board
of
estimate
indexation
to
authorize
city's
issuance
and
sale
assessments
bond
in
the
set
amount.
That's
my
presentation!
If
there's
any
questions
we
can
take
that
are.
A
There
any
questions
for
the
staff
presentation
seeing
none
I
will
open
the
public
hearing.
Anyone
signed
in
anyone
wish
to
come
forward.
Anyone
wish
to
come
forward
for
public
hearing
item
number
one,
seeing
no
one
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
move
the
item
as
described
council
member
bender
Thank.
B
You
mr.
chair,
this
I'm
project
is
in
an
area
close
by
to
ward
10
and
I.
Just
wanted
to
note
that
we
hear
a
lot
from
constituents
I
think
in
this
general
corridor
about
bicycle
infrastructure
connections
and
just
wanted
to
note
that
separate
from
this,
we
serve
visiting
project.
There's
discussions
with
Public
Works
about
how
to
connect
these
southern
bike
way
routes
into
downtown.
So
we
really
appreciate
it
being
able
to
work
on
that.
A
C
Right,
Thank
You
mr.
chair,
our
second
public
hearing
today
is
about
the
4th
Street
northeast
and
Edison
residential
resurfacing
project.
Again
these
projects
were
designated
in
December
of
2019
as
part
of
the
2020
street
resurfacing
program.
You
can
see
on
the
map
the
project
boundaries.
We
essentially
have
a
section
for
Street
northeast
and
then
the
Edison
residential,
paving
project,
neighborhood
I,
won't
go
through
the
whole
special
assessments.
Discussion
again
it's
for
the
same
reasons:
we
use
the
uniform
assessment
rate
and
using
the
same
rates
as
we
did
for
the
previous
project.
C
So
our
recommend
recommendation
today
is
passage
of
a
resolution
ordering
the
work
to
proceed
and
adopting
the
special
assessments
in
the
amount
of
1
million,
two
hundred
twenty
six
dollars:
six:
two
hundred
twenty
six
thousand
six
hundred
thirty
two
dollars
and
forty
four
cents
for
this
project
and
passage
of
a
resolution
requesting
a
board
of
estimate,
taxation
to
authorize
the
city's
issuance
and
sale
of
assessment
bonds.
In
that
amount,
and
that's
my
presentation-
and
if
there
are
any
questions
we
can
take
those
thank.
A
F
Her
name
is
Mary
Jane,
Rudnick
and
I
live
on
the
corner
of
22nd
and
Madison
Street
northeast
I've
been
there
for
47
years
and
I
have
never
come
across.
Anything
like
this
letter
that
we
got
you
guys
want
over
a
thousand
dollars
for
me
to
fix
your
rows,
and
you
know
for
the
refer
resurfacing,
no
behind
my
house
over
by
the
tracks.
They
had
that
big
area
there
and
they're
putting
up
and
they
put
up
three
great
big
humongous
apartments.
F
F
There's
gonna
be
all
these
extra
people
using
those
roads
and
there's
nothing.
There
was
nothing
the
matter
with
the
roads
before
really
I
mean
you
know.
I
can't
afford
it.
If
social
security
checks
go
up
eight
dollars
a
year,
it
went
up
eight
dollars
a
year,
so
I
mean
what
can
I
do
and
I
really
don't
want
to
pay
available
for
$1,000
for
the
four
for
the
roads.
You
know
that
I
don't
think
that
I
should
have
to
I.
Think.
F
A
G
Good
morning,
council,
my
name
is
Joseph
waters.
I
represent
664
22nd
Avenue
Northeast,
which
is
known
as
firefighters,
Hall,
Museum
I
have
a
question
about
the
resurfacing
project
itself.
How
long
is
it
gonna
take
the
reason
I
have
that
questions
I
have
one
entrance
to
get
in
and
out
and
most
of
our
business
is
done
on
the
weekend.
So
I'm
curious
about
the
time
factor
of
the
resurfacing
project
on
22nd
Avenue
yeah.
G
A
Thank
you.
Anyone
else
wish
to
come
forward
and
one
else
wish
to
come
forward.
Our
staff
would
come
forward
and
address
some
of
the
points
made.
I
think
there's
a
notion
without
the
condition
need
for
repair
and
then
in
terms
of
properties
being
assessed.
I
would
imagine
even
if
it's
a
property
that's
being
recently
built
or
being
built,
they
would
still
be
subject
to
an
assessment
commensurate
with
their
influence
zone.
C
Thank
You
mr.
chair.
Yes,
this
is
a
standard
resurfacing
project.
This
is
the
normal
way
that
we
fund
these.
It's
a
combination
of
special
assessments
to
abutting
properties,
using
the
influence
area
method.
There
is
also
a
component
of
net
debt
bonds,
which
comes
from
general
property
taxes.
So
this
is
the
standard
way
we
do
it.
C
A
It's
very
good
appreciate
that
accommodation
and
then,
in
terms
of
the
overall
condition
you
mentioned,
that
it's
do,
this
area
has
an
overall
condition
that
makes
it
very
prime
for
this
treatment.
So
I
think
those
are
all
good
clarifications
with
that
and
definitely
work
with
the
citizens
here
to
let
them
know
that
payment
options
we
have
councilmember
Fletcher.
D
Thank
you.
Mr.
chair
I
did
get
a
question
from
a
constituent
that
I
think
got
into
the
record
about
drainage
and
asking
sort
of
how
much
should
they
expect
improvements
where
right
now,
water
runs
and
pools
in
their
driveway
is
this?
Is
this
proposed
work
going
to
resolve
that
issue?
I
can
certainly
understand
someone's
frustration
at
being
built
for
work
that
doesn't
resolve
the
primary
concern
that
they
have
about
the
street.
That's
that's
being
repaired.
So
can
you
just
help
me
set
expectations
a
little
bit
about
what
this
work
doesn't
doesn't
do
sure.
C
Mr.
cherry
customer,
Fletcher
I'm
very
familiar
with
exactly
the
location,
I
think
is
1305
for
streets
of
these
what's
happening
there,
that
the
gentleman
is
asking
or
said
that
there's
been
a
lot
of
street
work
that
has
affected
the
drainage
there.
Really,
that
probably
has
is
not
what
is
affecting
the
drainage,
but
the
problem
is
he's.
Had
the
curb
and
gutter
in
front
of
his
property
has
sunken.
This
is
very
typical
for
some
of
these
old
streets
cause
what
we
call
these
bird
baths
or
low
spots
very
difficult
to
address
those.
C
Generally
speaking,
our
resurfacing
projects
do
not
address
drainage
in
the
gutters.
If
there
are
some
extraordinary
conditions
we
may
go
in
and
in
fact,
in
front
of
that
property,
we
have
preliminary
identified
that
we
may
do
some
curb
replacement,
they're
part
of
the
problem.
Is
we
don't
know
if
we
can
get
it
up
high
enough
in
order
to
get
it
over
his
driveway
apron
quite
often
a
lot
of
what
what
happens
in
these
situations-
and
this
happens
all
across
the
city
in
these
projects?
C
Is
we
just
move
the
water
someplace
else,
but
it
should
at
least
make
it
less
less
deep
and
not
as
intrusive,
and
hopefully
we
can
resolve
most
of
it.
But
yes,
there
shouldn't
be
expectations
that
this
will
solve
it,
but
this
is
very
typical
for
these
kinds
of
projects,
we're
not
addressing
general
curb
and
gutter
to
really
get
all
the
drainage
to
work
again.
That's
a
reconstruction
project.
A
Thank
you
and
then
I
will
con
I
made
some
initial
comment
when
I
was
first
presented
with
this
by
a
staff
in
terms
of
how
nearby
projects,
but
notably
Monroe,
had
been
very
sensitive
to
opportunities
around
safe
routes
to
schools,
even
though
this
is
not
a
reconstruct
there's
still
things
that
were
achieved,
that
we're
very,
very
well
welcomed
to
those
ends
and
I
know
that
coordination
will
be
moving
forward
as
well.
So
I
always
appreciate
those.
E
Mr.
chair
members
of
the
committee,
our
final
item
is
a
discussion
item.
This
is
to
present
information
that
we
have
received
between
our
first
presentation
of
the
draft
Americans
with
Disabilities
Act
ad,
a
transition
plan
for
Public
Works.
It
has
been
open
for
public
comment,
since
we
first
presented
in
just
November,
I
was
going
to
say
December,
but
it's
November.
We've
received
the
comments
and
have
made
changes
to
the
plan.
E
I
would
like
to
make
a
short
commentary
and
say
that
our
work
with
the
community,
specifically
the
advocacy
community
surrounding
Americans
with
disabilities,
will
continue
throughout
the
adoption
of
the
plan
and,
as
we
begin
to
implement
and
in
future
iterations
and
updates
to
this
plan,
and
we
have
appreciated
very
much
the
feedback
that
we've
received
and
are
looking
forward
to
getting
started
on
much-needed
work
in
the
city.
Kelsey
Vogt
is
a
transportation
planner
in
transportation
planning
and
will
make
the
presentation
yep.
H
We
had
it
open
for
a
45-day
comment
period.
We
hosted
an
open
house.
We
had
an
online
survey
met
with
several
of
our
advisory
committees,
including
the
Minneapolis
Advisory
Committee
on
people
with
disabilities,
the
Minneapolis
pedestrian
Advisory,
Committee,
Neapolis
Committee
on
Aging
and
the
Minneapolis
Bicycle
Advisory
Committee.
We
also
received
a
few
phone
calls
and
emails
to
staff
about
the
draft
plan
itself.
H
While
we
didn't
receive
a
large
number
of
comments
on
the
draft
plan,
many
of
those
that
we
did
receive
are
very
detailed.
I'll
go
into
some
of
those
details
in
a
minute,
but
just
to
recap
on
the
purpose
and
the
legislative
mandate
of
an
ad
a
transition
plan.
The
Americans
with
Disabilities
Act
is
a
federal
law
that
was
passed
in
1990.
H
It
prohibits
discrimination
on
the
basis
of
disability,
the
ADA
a
is
divided
into
five
chapters,
title
2,
which
requires
Bradley
that
local
government
agencies
provide
equal
access
to
programs
and
services
that
they
provide
and
provides
detailed
regulations
to
fulfill
this
application.
It's
a
wide-reaching
federal
law
with
important
local
impacts
as
more
than
one
in
ten
residents
and
Minneapolis
have
disability.
H
As
part
of
these
regulations,
local
government
agencies
with
50
or
more
employees
are
required
to
have
an
ad
a
transition
plan
if
structural
changes
to
facilities
are
required
to
meet
ata
standards.
The
purpose
of
a
transition
plan
is
to
identify
physical
barriers
for
accessibility,
established
priorities
and
develop
an
implementation
plan
for
removing
barriers
and
achieving
compliance
with
ADA
a
standards
and
requirements.
H
It's
important
to
note
that
ata
transition
plans
are
by
design
living
documents.
They
are
meant
to
be
a
planning
and
programming
tool
that
is
updated
periodically.
As
new
information
is
gathered
and
physical
barriers
are
removed,
the
revised
version
of
AD
a
transition
plan
has
five
chapters
and
an
executive
summary.
The
first
chapter
provides
an
overview
of
federal
regulations
and
how
the
city
meets
those
regulations.
The
second
focus
is
on
what
we
heard
through
Public
Engagement.
The
third
is
called
a
self-evaluation
and
outlines
barriers
that
were
identified
through
this
process.
H
There
are
many
departments
involved
in
AD
8
planning
at
the
city.
The
neighborhood
and
community
relations
department
or
NCR
manages
a
citywide
plan
that
comprehensively
addresses
programs
and
services
at
the
city.
It's
called
the
ad
a
action
plan
additionally
NCR
staffs,
the
Minneapolis
Advisory
Committee
for
people
with
disabilities.
The
committee
advises
staff
and
city
officials
on
matters
pertaining
to
the
a
DA
and
ways
in
which
the
city
can
be
more
accessible
for
all
persons.
There
are
two
separate
and
supporting
plans
that
inform
the
ad
a
action
plan.
H
H
The
ad
a
transition
plan
for
Public
Works
identifies
four
types
of
infrastructure
that
are
crucial
for
providing
access
in
the
public
right
away,
that
includes
pedestrian,
curb
ramps,
accessible
pedestrian
signals
systems
or
ApS
sidewalks
and
street
crossings
with
in
Minneapolis.
There
are
several
several
other
public
agencies
that
control
right
away
or
own
infrastructure
in
the
city
that
includes
the
Minnesota
Department
Transportation,
Hennepin,
County,
Minneapolis,
Parks
and
Recreation
board
and
a
metro
transit.
These
agencies
have
their
own
transition
plans
that
cover
their
facilities
and
the
right
away.
H
This
is
not
the
first
ad
a
transition
plan
for
Public
Works.
An
earlier
version
was
developed
in
2012.
The
intention
of
this
plan
is
to
replace
that
2012
version.
With
this
updated
plan,
the
2012
plan
is
being
updated
for
a
number
of
reasons.
As
a
living
document,
transition
plans
are
meant
to
be
updated
periodically.
Additionally,
new
requirements
for
the
upcoming
regional
solicitation
require
the
agencies
have
an
approved
plan
that
covers
the
public
right
away
by
the
application
period
in
April.
The
2012
plan
was
never
formally
adopted,
so
this
plan
seeks
to
meet
that
mandate.
H
The
2012
plan
included
a
commitment
to
complete
a
comprehensive
inventory
on
pedestrian
curb
ramps
that
inventory
was
since
completed
and
that
data
has
been
incorporated
into
this
plan.
Lastly,
the
2012
plan
is
being
updated
and
integrate
with
other
planning
efforts
and
further
the
city's
commitment
to
the
ad
a
while.
We
have
several
ad
a
plans
at
the
city.
88
plans
are
not
the
only
plans
and
policies
that
impact
accessibility
of
the
public
right
away.
H
Ad
a
plans
are
designs,
answer
to
the
regulations
prescribed
by
the
federal
law
and
answer
the
questions
of
whether
the
city
complies
with
the
minimum
standards
detailed
in
these
regulations.
Several
other
key
policy
plans
work
in
tandem
with
a
DA
plans
to
provide
a
transportation
network
that
promotes
safety,
accessibility
and
aligns
with
city
goals.
These
include
the
vision,
zero
action
plan,
which
was
recently
adopted
and
the
transportation
action
plan,
which
is
a
ten
year
action
plan
to
guide
future
planning,
design
and
information,
implementation
of
transportation
projects
process
city.
H
As
far
as
what
we
heard
on
the
draft
plan,
there
are
a
few
key
themes
in
the
feedback
we
received.
There's
a
desire
to
see
improvements
for
scooter
share.
These
varied
from
the
need
to
increase
enforcement
of
scooters.
Blocking
the
right
away
to
dedicating
more
space
for
scooters
to
operate
in
park,
need
to
add
timelines
to
the
recommendations
listed
in
the
plan
and
to
simplify
the
language
of
those
recommendations,
a
need
to
complete
additional
data
collection,
especially
for
sidewalks
street
crossings,
and
evaluate
ApS
data.
H
To
include
within
the
plan,
there
were
also
several
suggestions
on
how
to
include
improved
winter
maintenance,
accessible
pedestrian
signal
design
and
traffic
signal
operations
for
pedestrians.
In
response
to
the
feedback
that
we
received,
we
add
in
an
executive
summary
to
summarize
the
intent
of
the
transition
plan
and
highlight
those
key
recommendations
for
improvement.
H
Timelines
and
milestones
were
added
for
each
of
the
recommendations
to
clearly
identify
next
steps
and
how
and
when
each
of
the
recommendations
are
expected
to
be
completed,
we
analyze
and
add
it
more
information
on
where
sidewalks
exist
and
the
approximate
sidewalk
widths
along
City
right
away,
but
maintain
the
recommendation
to
collect
additional
data
to
both
confirm
this
existing
data
and
and
upon
it.
We
added
more
information
on
what
guidance
the
a
da
provides
on
winter
maintenance
and
the
city's
existing
practices
on
sidewalks
snow
and
ice
enforcement
and
corner
clearing.
H
The
recommendations
in
the
plan
outline
a
path
forward
to
collect
or
evaluate
inventory
data
and
make
improvements
in
the
public
right
away.
Most
of
the
recommendations
outlined
in
the
plan
are
anticipated
to
be
completed
in
the
next
few
years,
but
just
to
highlight
a
few
of
the
recommendations
planned
for
this
year.
H
We
plan
to
make
significant
improvements
to
the
pedestrian
curb
ramp
inventory
tool
to
collect
more
accurate
data,
and
that
corresponds
with
the
latest
curb
ramp
standards,
finished
digitizing
data
on
accessible
pedestrian
signals
and
evaluate
this
data
against
current
standards
and
guidance
to
include,
within
the
plan
pilot
data
collection
for
sidewalks
and
street
collection.
Street
crossings
to
determine
a
methodology
that
will
collect
information,
need
it
for
the
ad
a
plan
and
allows
the
prioritize
improvements
through
a
data-driven
capital
programming
process.
As
these
and
other
recommendations
are
completed,
an
infrastructure
continues
to
be
improved.
H
I
I
Why
do
you
think
I
compare
that
with
something
like
2040,
where
we
had
tens
of
thousands
of
comments
and
certainly
understand
that
there's
varying
levels
of
interests
in
the
different
topics,
but
it
seems
off
by
multiple
magnitudes.
Are
there
thoughts
on
how
the
community
engagement
was
approached
and
how
we
might
be
able
to
do
better
with
to
get
more
feedback?
Sure.
H
Sure,
right,
members
of
the
committee
I,
would
say
that
we
had
a
much
more
robust
participation
from
people
in
the
beginning
of
the
process
when
we
asked
specifically
what
barriers
were
most
impact
for
them.
When
we
got
to
the
stage
when
we
were
bringing
out
the
draft
transfer
transition
plan,
it
seems
I
think
a
little
less
real
for
people
a
little
harder
to
engage
with.
So
that
may
be
the
reason
for
why
we
didn't
really
seen
as
many
comments
gotcha.
I
G
I
Of
how
somebody
would
handle
it,
I
guess
why?
Why
did
we
fall
so
far
behind
on
this,
because
we
had
an
earlier
plan
in
2018,
so
eight
years
have
passed
since
then
I
would
imagine
that
the
data
could
have
been
collected
in
that
time
and
then
as
we're
thinking
ahead
here.
What
are
our
I
know?
You
touched
briefly
and
kind
of
said:
it
sounded
like
the
next
few
years
to
collect
data,
but
do
we
have
any
more
specific
timelines,
and
how
can
we
really
ramp
that
up?
I
Because
that
seems
like
a
really
huge
missing
component
when
I'm
going
through
this,
where
we
say
when
data
becomes
available
when
they
collect
it,
we
don't
have
the
data
determining
an
approach
to
get
better
data,
sets
we
don't
have
a
crosswalk
inventory
or
with
running
slope
or
obstructions.
So
there's
just
a
lot
of
missing
information
it
seems
like
and
in
that,
so
we're
not
really
influencing
those
parts
in
the
plan
you
speak
more
to
that
sure.
H
Chair
rake
customer
we
in
the
2012
plan
it
only
included
recommendation
to
include
an
inventory
of
pedestrian
curb
ramps.
This
plan
includes
a
recommendation
to
collect
an
inventory
on
the
rest
of
the
the
features
that
you
mentioned.
We
do
have
good
data
on
some
of
those
features,
but
we
would
be
looking
to
expand
upon
that
for
sidewalks.
For
instance,
we
have
data
on
our
width
somewhere.
H
Sidewalks
is
this
throughout
the
city,
but
we
would
need
to
collect
things
like
cross
slopes
and
where
obstructions
are
so
we
have
a
plan
outlined
to
do
that
through
this
plan
for
APS.
We
have
that
data,
but
it
has
yet
to
be
digitized
and
evaluate
it,
but
we
expect
to
do
that
in
the
year,
so
we
should
have
that
pretty
soon
are.
I
J
Thank
you
very
much
and
I
appreciate
all
this
work
and
it
seems
like
they
were
really
fleshing
out
this
plan,
much
more
than
we
ever
had
before.
So
I
really
appreciate
that
I
was
concerned
when
I
got
an
email
from
one
of
our
members
of
our
committee
person
with
disabilities
committee
with
some
concerns
about
it,
it
sounded
like
council,
member
Johnson
might
have
been
trying
to
look
at
some
of
those
as
well
I'm.
J
Have
you
seen
that
the
email
I
mean
he
talks
about
that?
We
need
to
have
assess
each
component
and
to
compliant
and
non-compliant,
have
a
timeline
and
understand
the
costs
of
making
those
improvements,
I
think
and
also
he
wanted
to
be
clear.
That
I
think
he
was
saying
the
committee
didn't
the
Advisory
Committee
didn't
necessarily
endorse
the
plan
or
not
so
I,
guess
just
from
my
position
as
a
policymaker.
J
Well,
that's
a
concern
I'm,
hoping
and
expecting
that
our
staff
is
certainly
working
with
the
committee
and
working
with
him
to
address
those
and
maybe
can
help
clarify
where
some
of
them
are
already
in
the
plan
and
also
how
quickly
we're
going
to
work
to
get
them
in
the
plan.
And
maybe,
if
you
could
just
comment
a
little
more
directly
on
that
it
will
help
me
be
confident
about
it.
Sure.
H
Chair
right,
council,
member
Gordon,
we
we
expect
to
continue
to
work
with
the
committee's
on
how
to
flesh
out
the
plan
more.
We
we
do
have
some
of
those
interim
steps
outlined
through
the
recommendations
and
we've
seen
the
same
kind
of
feedback
from
the
committee's
I
think
there
are
pretty
high
expectations
of
what
should
be
in
this
plan,
and
we
intend
to
you
are
best
to
meet
those
goals.
D
Thank
You
mr.
chair
I
think
along
similar
lines,
hearing
I
think
we've
heard
a
real
provocation
about
a
sense
of
urgency.
I
think
we've
heard
a
real
push
to
make
sure
that
this
is
a
priority
and
I
was
thinking
back
to
last
year's
budget
conversations
and
I.
Don't
remember
this
being
something
that
we
were
debating.
D
Should
we
fund
or
not
I,
don't
remember
it
being
something
that
came
forward
as
a
priority,
and
so
I
just
want
to
first
of
all
own
that
I
didn't
ask
about
it
right
that
at
least
in
my
role
is
one
of
the
thirteen
who
could
have
raised
this
up.
I
didn't
do
that.
It
wasn't
front
of
mind
enough
that
I
said
where's.
The
funding
for
our
ad
a
plan
but
I
also
I,
do
just
want
to
sort
of
ask
what
will
it
take
to
get
to
some
specificity?
D
This
feels
like
a
very
abstract
conversation
in
some
ways.
I
feel
very
you
know
it's
very
easy
for
me
to
say
in
the
abstract.
Of
course,
I
want
us
to
make
the
city
accessible
for
everyone
with
disabilities,
but
until
we
have
dollar
amounts
to
put
on
that
until
we
have
a
sense
of
what's
the
what's
the
budgetary
ask
of
us,
and
what
are
we
prioritizing
it?
D
K
Thank
you
for
the
question
chair
right
committee
members.
We
actually
are
looking
to
pilot
a
sidewalk
data
collection
effort
with
one
of
our
neighborhood
reconstruction
and
resurfacing
areas
likely
this
summer
in
order
to
pin
down
that
very
question
for
you.
If
you
recall
several
years
ago,
we
didn't
automated
data
collection
effort
on
our
streets
citywide
in
order
to
improve
our
pavement
condition.
K
Data
set
for
the
city
and
we'd
like
to
try
to
use
that
effort
for
the
sidewalks
as
well,
but
it's
a
very
new
technology
to
use
on
the
sidewalks,
and
we
need
to
pilot
that
in
order
to
see
how
that
would
work
on
the
sidewalks
and
what
the
cost
would
be.
So
we
want
to
try
to
do
that
in
a
small
subset
of
the
city
in
order
to
see
what
the
data
looks
like
when
it
comes
forward
and
what
that
cost
would
be
so
that
we
could
see
what
that
would
look
like
for
citywide.
K
Mr.
chair
committee,
members
I
said,
as
I
said,
we
were
looking
to
try
to
do
that
pilot
likely
this
summer.
If
not
this
summer,
it
would
be
next
summer
with
one
of
our
larger
neighborhood
resurfacing
and
reconstruction
areas,
but
we're
hoping
to
do
that
this
summer.
So
it
would
be
towards
the
end
of
the
summer
when
we
would
have
that
information.
D
One
of
the
asks
from
one
of
my
constituents
was
actually
to
vote
no
on
this
until
we
have
a
little
more
detail
and
I
guess
I
wanted
to
ask
what
are
the
consequences
of
not
approving
this
plan
today
and
saying
we
want
some
more
information
about
what
the
resources
would
be
required,
or
you
know
what
what
does
it
enable
us
to
move
forward
with
to
pass
this
plan
today?
Knowing
that
part
of
what
the
plan
says
is
that
we've
got
a
bunch
of
additional
things
to
figure
out
help
me
kind
of
think
through?
K
Chair
committee
members
passing
this
plan
today
does
a
couple
things.
It
gives
us
the
plan
that
we
need
in
order
to
move
forward
to
continue
this
work.
It
also
clears
the
path
for
us
to
submit
our
federal
funding
applications
for
the
regional
solicitation
that
we
need
to
move
forward
with
in
the
very
near
term.
As
Kelsi
noted,
the
ad
a
transition
plan
is
a
living
document,
and
so
we
continue
to
work
on
it
and
update
it
and
use
it
going
forward.
K
It
doesn't
answer
all
the
questions
with
the
data
right
now,
but
it
clears
a
path
for
us
to
continue
to
do
that
work
and
continue
to
answer
those
questions.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
data
on
our
sidewalks.
We
know
we
need
more
data
and
we're
continuing
to
look
for
those
opportunities
to
collect
that
data,
and
the
pilot
that
we
want
to
do
this
summer
is
one
of
those
opportunities.
B
You
mr.
chair
I
mean
this
is
a
really
important
discussion
and
I
think
it
reflects.
You
know
growing
interest
in
all
of
the
different
ways
that
we're
investing
in
our
street
system,
our
public
right-of-way,
to
make
it
more
accessible
for
all
users,
so
I
I
think
it's
meant
in
that
spirit
of
really
wanting
to
support
the
work.
B
Having
you
know,
I've
been
kind
of
working
on
transportation
issues
for
a
long
time
and
I
think
the
role
of
eighty-eight
transition
plans
has
evolved
in
the
field,
I
think
in
a
good
way,
which
is
to
be
more
integrated
with
our
with
the
rest
of
capital
spending
I.
Think
in
the
past,
just
my
own
observation,
not
necessarily
of
Minneapolis
but
of
generally
of
Transportation
and
Public
Works
agencies.
The
ad
a
transition
plan
was
kind
of
like
its
own
saying
and
I
think.
B
B
The
fact
that
it
isn't
is
not
unique
to
Minneapolis
and
I
think
you
know.
So
all
that
to
say
you
know
in
terms
of
like
how
do
we
go
forward
from
here?
I
think
what
I'm
hearing
from
my
colleagues
in
which
what
I
would
support
too,
is
that
you
know
this
plan.
B
I
think
in
its
current
form
reflects
a
lot
of
progress
that
has
been
made
and
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
support
to
go
farther
and
continue
that
integration,
whether
it's
through
this
pilot
this
summer
or
even
more
aggressive
work
through
the
budget
or
whatever
called
colleagues,
would
want
to
work
with
the
Department
on.
So
you
know,
for
me,
I
think
I
also
am
hearing
from
constituents.
Swa--
needs
to
move
faster
and
and
do
more
more
quickly.
We
continue
to
hear
about
snow
clearance
in
the
wintertime
as
an
EDA
and
accessibility
issue.
B
A
Thank
you
any
other
comments,
just
pivoting
from
what
council
president
meander
said,
I
think
just
the
interest
alone
and
the
conversation
generated.
We
would
want
to
come
back
with
an
update
to
the
committee,
a
curious
to
see
the
work.
That's
been
done
to
see
how
it
does
get
integrated,
moving
forward,
how
it
does
evolve,
even
in
a
one-year
time
period,
any
pilots
that
we
do
any
conclusions
from
that
would
be
clearly
of
great
interest.
A
So,
just
in
the
notion
of
having
interesting
committee
meetings
and
an
engaged
committee
I
think
there
should
be
a
great
candidate
for
a
frequent
touching
out
base
as
things
progress,
I
think
the
comments
colleagues
made
of
in
pretty
spot-on
council
president
Bender's
kind
of
that
overview.
I
think
really
puts
the
perspective
of
what
we're
doing.
We
have
elevated
of
this
work.
A
Integrating
in
a
more
elevated
way,
definitely
takes
some
shifting
and
in
terms
of
the
conversation
around
budget.
When
we're
talking
about
acceleration
of
work,
highlighting
of
work,
saying
that
it's
the
summit
of
our
work,
it
should
be
reflected,
thusly
and
I.
Think
that's
work
that
we
can
do
as
a
in
support
of
the
department
to
do
what
it
takes
once
we
have
identified
specifically
what
it
takes
to
accelerate
this
work
because
clearly,
there's
a
public
demanding,
int
and
director
Hutchinson.
Do
you
have
something
to
add.
E
Thank
You
mr.
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
for
your
comments.
This
is
a
vital
piece
of
work
for
the
Department
of
Public
Works
and
I
would
like
to
recognize
that
plans
that
leave
questions
about.
What's
next,
are
not
bad
plans,
they're,
honest
plans
and
that
an
honest
planning
project
process
uncovers
two
things:
one:
a
path
forward
on
what
you
can't
accomplish
and
what
it
will
take
and
two
what
you
cannot
accomplish
today.
But
you
know
that
you
need
to
and
that's
the
path
you
build.
E
This
plan
does
both
things
and
I
want
to
thank
staff
Kelsey
in
particular,
for
taking
on
an
incredibly
important
project
for
doing
it
with
such
integrity
and
for
approaching
it
in
such
an
honest
way.
What
we
know
and
what
we
don't
yet
know
are
both
incredibly
important
components
of
any
honest
planning
process.
A
Well,
thank
you
for
highlighting
that
and
I
think
it's
not
lost
on
the
committee
of
this
report
and
your
approach
has
definitely
new
different
but
needed,
and
so
we
really
appreciate
that
and
do
not
take
it
for
granted.
If
there's
no
further
comments,
I
would
adopt
our
plan
as
it's
before
us
and
described
by
staff
and
discussed
by
the
committee,
all
in
favor
say
aye
dissenting
name
that
carries,
and
that
concludes
our
business
today.
Thank
you.
We're
adjourned.