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Minneapolis Economic Development & Regulatory Services Committee Meeting
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B
A
Seeing
none
all
in
favor
of
approving
the
consent
agenda
signify
by
saying
aye
opposed
to
our
major
item
on
our
agenda
today,
which
is
the
reappointment
of
our
director
of
regulatory
services,
Kim,
Keller
I
know
the
mayor
is
going
to
be
here.
I
had
heard
the
mayor
was
going
to
be
here,
but
perhaps
we'll
just
open
first
by
taking
testimony
is
that
workable?
A
Okay?
So
we'll
open
the
public
hearing
on
item
number
one,
which
is
the
reappointment
of
Kim
Keller
to
be
the
director
of
regulatory
services?
It
feels
like
we
were
here
five
minutes
ago
to
discuss
this
so
I.
Don't
anticipate
a
lengthy
public
hearing
but
I'll
open
the
public
hearing.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
to
this
issue?
A
C
C
Goodman
councilmembers,
my
name
is
Eric
Gustafson
I'm,
a
program
officer
with
the
family
housing
fund,
I'm,
here
to
speak
in
support
of
the
mayor's
nomination
of
director
Kim
Keller
to
continue
leading
regulatory
services.
A
rental
revolution
is
underway
around
the
Twin
Cities
region
sparked
in
large
part
by
Minneapolis
renters,
there's
much
the
city
can
and
is
doing
to
ensure
everyone
has
fair
access
to
the
building
blocks
of
a
stable,
healthy
and
prosperous
life,
and
that
includes
home
environments
that
support
the
success
of
our
city's
next
generation.
C
Safe,
well-managed
rental
homes
can
serve
as
that
foundation
and,
while
Minneapolis
still
boasts
a
diverse
array
of
affordable
rentals,
their
longevity,
fair
management
and
ongoing
affordability
is
far
from
assured.
Minneapolis
needs
humane,
visionary
and
collaborative
leadership
to
look
after
our
fragile,
affordable
rental
stock,
while
also
leading
efforts
to
protect
the
renter
populations,
most
of
all
unsafe
conditions,
predatory
management
schemes
and
other
harms
about
two
years
ago,
family
housing
fund
and
some
other
partners
began
working
with
regulatory
services
on
some
specific
improvements
aimed
at
advancing
a
renter
centered
approach
to
rental
housing
enforcement.
C
These
include
renewed
use
by
the
city
of
tenant
remedies
actions.
Instead
of
licensed
revocations
a
workgroup
to
coordinate
on
inspections
across
departments
and
agencies
and
approved
inspections
to
protect
renters
from
the
negative
health
impacts
of
mold
and
water
intrusion,
infestations
and
lead-based
paint,
considerable
progress
has
been
made
through
these
collaborations
and
through
many
other
efforts
inside
and
outside
of
city
government,
driven
in
part
by
Kim
Keller's
leadership.
C
We're
now
preparing
to
embark
with
kaminer
team
on
the
development
of
new
trainings
supports
and
resources
for
small
landlords,
with
the
vision
of
supporting
and
expanding
a
pool
of,
responsible
and
cable,
capable
rental
property
owners
residing
and
operating
in
neighborhoods
across
Minneapolis
in
the
Twin
Cities
region,
chair
goodman
and
council
members,
mayor
fra.
You
have
an
opportunity
today
to
put
renters
first
in
policy
and
in
practice
by
selecting
and
supporting
a
humane,
visionary
and
collaborative
leader
as
your
director
of
regulatory
services,
I
urge
you
to
support
the
reappointment
of
Kim
Keller
for
this
critical
role.
C
A
D
Good
afternoon,
chair
Goodman
and
councilmembers
and
mayor
Frye,
my
name
is
Joey
Dobson
I'm,
a
housing
policy
attorney
with
Mid
Minnesota
legal
aid,
I'm
here
to
support
enthusiastically
the
reappointment
of
Kim
Keller
as
director
of
regulatory
services.
As
you
know,
legal
aid
does
a
number
of
things
provides
free
civil
legal
services
to
residents
of
Hennepin
County.
One
of
our
most
robust
practice
areas
is
our
housing
practice
where
we
represent
hundreds,
if
not
thousands,
of
Minneapolis
tenants
in
eviction
cases
and
other
landlord
tenant
disputes.
D
In
my
role
in
and
my
colleagues
role
representing
tenants
in
the
city,
we
have
had
the
opportunity
to
work
closely
with
MS
color
in
her
role.
We
work
closely
with
rec
service,
as
they
regulate,
landlords
and
oversee
landlord
licensing
and
more
recently
have
taken
the
turn
to
more
effectively
and
intentionally
supporting
renters
in
our
city
in
that
landlord-tenant
relationship
as
well.
D
This
affects
people's
ability
to
get
to
work,
people's
ability
to
be
healthy,
so
they
can
go
to
school
kids,
making
it
through
the
day,
and
these
are
the
things
that
Kim
remembers
and
brings
to
the
conversations
about
these
issues.
She
stays
grounded
in
the
humanity
of
the
lived
experience
of
our
neighbors.
It's
not
just
about
policy
with
Kim.
It's
not
just
about
politics
and
budget
items.
It's
about
the
lived
experiences
of
people
who
live
in
our
city,
our
kids,
healthy,
our
kids,
safe.
D
Our
family
is
able
to
get
to
work
and
contribute
meaningfully
to
our
communities
and
not
everybody
who
would
serve
that
role
wouldn't
stay
as
grounded
in
that
part
of
why
this
work
is
important
and
she
does
that,
whether
it's
through
leading
on
work
through
the
strategic,
racial
equity
action
plan
or
really
embodying
the
renter
first
policy
and
making
sure
that
the
human
lives
at
play
are
held
first
and
foremost
in
these
policies.
Kim
is
always
focused
on
that
part,
and
does
it
in
a
way
that
is
collaborative
and
effective.
D
A
E
You
madam
chair,
I,
appreciate
the
opportunity
members
of
the
EDRs
committee,
thank
you
for
having
me
here.
I'm
really
proud
to
join
you
all
to
speak
in
support
of
the
reappointment
of
Kim
Keller
as
the
director
of
regulatory
services.
Several
of
the
speakers
have
already
outlined
the
reasons
aptly,
but
I
wanted
to
state
them
for
myself.
E
Also
she's
continued
to
resolve
a
lot
of
complicated
financial
issues,
one
of
which
is
the
revolving
fund,
which
does
not
get
a
lot
of
attention,
but
there
was
a
very
significant
gap
in
our
budgeting
when
we
started
or
commenced.
The
2020
budgeting
process
last
year
and
director
Keller
found
a
way
to
start
to
bridge
that
gap
and
then
planned
for
the
future,
and
for
those
of
you
that
don't
know
this
gap
resulted
from
the
fact
that
we
used
to
get
a
whole
lot
of
money
from
vacant
and
boarded
property
fees.
E
What
happened
is
that
we
have
now
have
fewer
vacant
and
boarded
properties
and
with
fewer
vacant
and
boarded
properties.
We
don't
get
as
much
money
and
that
money
for
better
for
worse
and
in
my
view,
it
was
for
the
worse,
went
towards
paying
a
huge
slew
of
our
employees,
and
you
should
never
have
to
rely
on
paying
your
employees
by
doing
something
that
you
don't
want
to
have
present
in
your
city.
It
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense,
and
so
yes,
we
did
make
that
shift.
E
Yes,
director,
Keller
helped
out
a
whole
lot
and
and
I
think
we'll
see
the
benefit
for
it
in
coming
years.
Finally,
and
I
have
a
feeling
that
councilmember
Ellison
may
speak
to
this
in
a
second
here,
but
there
was
a
there
was
a
settlement
agreement
with
the
new
owners
of
the
Friends
building,
preserving
affordable
and
stable
housing
for
more
than
500
units
with
red
caps
and
just
cause
evictions.
E
E
So
you
know,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
true
commitment
to
making
sure
equity
is
is
making
sure
the
equity
isn't
a
standalone
activity
through
our
approach
to
policy
development,
how
we
are
implementing
programming
and
every
employee
having
a
cultural
agility
development
plan
kim
is
a
talented
leader
and
I'm
so
proud
of
her
ability
to
solve
some
of
these
complex
problems
in
a
very
collaborative
way.
I
asked
for
your
support.
I.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank.
A
F
F
I
feel
like
a
not
too
long
ago.
I
remember
having
conversations
with
with
folks
saying,
like
okay
traffic
control,
you're
sort
of
parked.
There
right
and
I
think
that
you're
doing
the
work
to
make
sure
that,
when
people
come
into
this
institution,
they
know
that
they
have
the
ability
to
to
advance
in
their
career
and
stay
here
for
a
long
time,
and
so
director
Keller,
didn't
just
show
up
and
decide
to
keep
the
lights
on.
I
think
that
you
shut
up
and
and
really
decided
to
shape
this
organization
into
something.
F
That's
that
we
can
all
really
be
proud
of,
and
I
commended
cpad
and
the
leadership
of
cpad
for
working
with
reg
services.
But
so
I
have
two
equally
commit
comment
and
say
that
I
really
appreciate
that
reg
Services
has
been
willing
to
collaborate
with
other
departments,
especially
as
it
pertains
to
us
dealing
with
some
really
difficult
landlords
in
our
city
and
and
hopefully,
instead
of
reacting
to
them.
F
G
Thank
You,
chair,
Goodman,
I
think
in
addition
to
the
public
testimony
that
we
heard
on
the
housing
front,
where
we've
seen
some
really
remarkable
work
happening
on
tenant
protections,
I
think
I
just
wanted
to
lift
up
some
of
the
policy
work.
That's
happening.
We've
been
working
very
closely
together
on
short-term
rental
policy
and
sort
of
thinking
about
how
you
know
a
lot
of
times
when
you
get
into
policy
questions.
G
A
So
once
we
take
this
vote,
I'm
gonna
ask
Miss
Keller
to
come
forward.
You
might
have
a
few
words
that
I
also
love
for
you
to
introduce
your
team.
That's
here
today.
Just
so
everyone
can
see
who
really
does
the
work
under
your
leadership
and
they,
you
know,
probably
have
team
members
who
are
here
too
and
any
of
so
anyone
who's
in
reg
services.
I
would
love
to
have
them
introduced
on
the
chairs
motion
to
approve
the
nomination,
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
H
Good
afternoon,
chair
Goodman,
council
members.
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
opportunity
to
address
you
all.
Last
June
we
were
here
in
June,
I
stood
before
you
and
I
told
you
that
I
have
four
goals
for
taury
services.
I
want
us
to
have
code
that
is
reflective
of
our
values
and
puts
the
needs
and
safety
of
people
and
pets.
First
I
want
us
to
organize
our
work
in
ways
that
are
both
effective
and
efficient,
that
are
data
informed
and
are
proactive.
H
I
want
us
to
have
clear
pathways
for
staff
to
develop
and
advance
and
I
want
to
ensure
that
our
staff
are
reflective
of
our
communities
and
are
prepared
to
engage.
We
have
been
working
toward
the
vision
that
these
goals
paint
throughout
2019
and
I
believe
that
we
have
made
progress,
as
has
mentioned
some
of
the
policy
work
and
I'm
gonna
kind
of
tick
through
a
little
bit
of
it
as
well,
because
I'm
really
proud
of
it.
H
Our
policy
work
in
2019
included
the
passage
of
the
renter
first
in
strategic
racial
equity
action
plan,
as
well
as
ordinances
and
screening
criteria
for
renters
security,
deposit
caps
led
an
energy
disclosures.
An
emergency
repair
board
and
rental
relocation
benefits.
We
have
fully
committed
to
these
policies.
For
example,
implementation
of
the
renter
first
policy
has
started
sort
of
with
staff
and
saying
how
would
you
implement
this?
We
have
met
with
every
single
regulatory
services
employee
who
works
and
interacts
with
renters.
H
We
also
continue
to
raise
the
bar
on
our
programming.
2019
saw
us
having
some
of
the
best
animal
live
release
rates
in
the
nation,
standing
up,
an
interdisciplinary
work
group
for
renter
protections
having
nearly
30
completed
or
active
tenant
remedies,
actions
or
conditions
on
rental
properties,
and
this
is
from
five
three
vyas
year.
H
We
can
be
proactive
about
that
staff
continued
to
be
the
lifeblood
of
regulatory
services
and
we
are
investing
in
them
in
important
ways
through
career
pathways,
we've
apprenticeship,
programs
that
we've
started
in
2019
and
details.
We
do
alternative
work
arrangements
for
better
work/life
integration
through
mayor
Fry's,
2020
budget
and
all
of
your
support.
We
anticipate
staffing
stability
as
we
work
to
sunset.
The
revolving
fund.
H
As
we
all
know,
the
Twin
Cities
Metro
continues
to
have
some
of
the
worst
racial
disparities
in
the
country
and
for
household
income,
unemployment,
home
ownership
and
incarceration
rates
as
public
servants.
Regulatory
services
knows
that
our
jobs
are
about
more
than
code
enforcement
and
that
we
play
a
role
in
closing
these
gaps.
The
important
life-saving
work
regulatory
services
does
impacts
people
in
very
personal
ways
to
learn
more
about
the
communities
we
serve
and
serve
with.
Every
employee
in
the
department
has
created
their
own
individualized
cultural
agility
development
plan.
H
We
also
invested
in
the
intercultural
development
inventory
for
all
former
leaders
and
formal
leaders
in
the
department
and
our
equity
and
inclusion
team
is
very
active
and
rolled
out
an
outstanding
portfolio
of
programming,
as
I
think
about
the
change
that
we're
driving
toward
the
ecosystem
that
we
are
building
no
matter.
The
content
area
I
believe
that
these
goals
are
the
ones
that
are
going
to
carry
us
through.
H
They
speak
to
the
systems
that
we
build
and
maintain
the
programs
we
run
and
the
people
that
we
serve
and
stand
beside
so
I
serve
at
your
pleasure
and
I'm
very
honored.
To
do
so.
My
passion,
though,
why
I
love?
This
role
is
to
serve
regulatory
services,
employees
and
people
who
live
in
Minneapolis,
understanding
the
realities
that
our
communities
face,
seeing
all
of
our
communities
as
assets
and
being
accountable,
first
and
foremost
to
them.
That
is
what
moves
me.
H
H
I
do
want
to
recognize
the
amazing
leadership
team
of
regulatory
services
for
your
dedication
and
your
guidance
and
Department
staff
members
for
making
our
team
one
where
people
lean
on
and
launch
each
other
as
we
do
fantastic
work,
so
I
will
recognize
some
staff
in
the
room.
Here
we
have
our
director
of
traffic
control,
Clara
Schmidt
Gonzales,
our
director
of
operations
and
engagement,
survey,
Grand,
Coulee
and
Brad
small
is
our
manager
and
chair
excuse
me,
and
fire
inspection
services.
Kelly
Jones
is
our
director
of
housing
inspection
services.
H
J
Good
afternoon,
thank
you,
madam
chair
and
committee
members.
My
name
is
christine
st
stirrer
and
I'm
a
lead
licensed
inspector
scientific
establishments
in
the
second
Precinct
I'm,
presenting
an
application
from
Mary
Ellen's
Bistro
owned
by
Mary
Ellen's
Bistro
LLC
Mary
Ellen's
Bistro
is
located
at
300
13th
Avenue
Northeast
in
the
Third
Ward.
The
applicant
is
requesting
an
on
sale
wine
with
strong
beer
and
no
entertainment
license.
The
hours
of
operation
are
7:00
a.m.
to
10:00
p.m.
daily.
J
They
have
indoor
seating
for
32
patrons
on
January
14th
90
public
hearing
notices
were
sent
to
property
owners
within
600
feet
of
the
premises.
Notices
were
also
sent
to
the
Sheraton
neighborhood
organization,
the
Northeast
Minneapolis
Chamber
of
Commerce
and
council
member
Fletcher.
We
have
received
two
comments
from
the
community.
Both
responses
were
in
support
of
this
application.
J
J
There
has
been
no
police
calls
or
3-1-1
calls
due
to
just
businesses
performances
they
have
not
been
open
yet,
but
there
has
not
been
any
calls
for
service
in
the
past
several
years,
even
under
Maeve's
cafe
the
licenses
and
consumer
services.
Division
recommends
approval
of
an
on
sell
wine
with
strong
beer,
no
entertainment
life
license
for
Mary
Ellen's
Bistro.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
I
Am
Cuyahoga
ringer
my
address
is
300
13th
Avenue
Northeast
and
my
name
is
NAT
Mary
Ellen.
That
was
my
grandmother,
so
it's
named
after
her
and
I
grew
up
with
her
on
my
North
Dakota
farm.
So
a
lot
of
influences
for
the
food
and
really
the
culture
at
our
place
will
be
kind
of
in
honor
of
her
and
what
she
taught
me
yeah,
it's
gonna
be
a
really
great
place.
We're
really
excited
to
open
the
place
in
our
neighborhood.
I
A
K
No
I,
thank
you
for
hearing
me.
My
name
is
Jenny
krauser
and
I
am
a
co-owner
of
the
anchor
fish-and-chips,
which
is
right
next
door
to
the
soon-to-be
Mary
Ellen's
and
now,
as
owners
of
that
building,
we've
secured
our
own
future
there
and
they
have
already
Vincent
I,
have
already
been
our
tenants
above
Maeve's
and,
having
already
had
a
relationship
with
Mary
and
Maeve's,
we
look
very
forward
to
expanding
that
business
into
the
evening
into
or
that
place
of
business
into
the
evening.
Beer
and
wine
I
think
it's
a
little
bit
more
inclusive.
K
L
G
Thank
You,
chair,
Goodman
and
I'll
just
say.
Obviously,
Maeve's
was
a
beloved
institution
in
the
neighborhood,
and
you've
got
big
shoes
to
fill
and
reflecting
a
little
bit
just
thinking
about
in
relationship
to
this
committee
when
Maeve's
opened
ten
years
ago,
the
rules
were
a
little
different
about
liquor
light
and
that
made
it
impractical
from
Maeve's
to
get
that
license.
G
Oh
Mary
really
shaped
her
business
around
being
a
coffee
shop
in
a
different
way,
and
it's
my
hope
now
that
we've
created
a
little
more
permissive
business
environment
that
lets
you
apply
for
more
license
that
you're
able
to
really
make
that
space
work.
You
know
you
know
and
it's
in
its
current
form
and
be
very
successful,
and
everybody
is
absolutely
cheering
for
your
success
and
wanting
this
to
be
a
great
neighborhood
institution.
Moving
forward
so
I'm
happy
to
move
approval
of
this
item,
approval.
A
L
Thank
you,
madam
chair
committee,
members.
My
name
is
Phil
Kotwal
and
the
licensed
inspector
assigned
to
the
fourth
Precinct
I'm,
presenting
an
application
for
butcher
salt
on
by
lunch
and
Lillie
ink
at
2:08
29th
Avenue
North
located
in
Ward
5.
The
applicant
is
requesting
an
answer.
Liquor
with
Sunday
sales
license
limited
entertainment.
The
hours
of
operation
will
be
from
11:00
a.m.
to
3:00
p.m.
on
Monday,
Wednesday
and
Friday,
with
the
ability
to
adapt.
His
neighborhood
community
and
business
needs
change.
L
On
January
the
13th
2020
preparing
notices
were
sent
to
property
owners
within
600
feet
of
the
premises.
Notices
were
also
sent
to
the
Hawthorn
Neighborhood
Council,
the
Lowery
corridor,
Business
Association,
and
to
councilmember
Ellison.
We
haven't
received
any
comments
from
the
community.
There
have
been
no
significant,
3-1-1
or
police
calls
that
can
be
attributed
to
the
business.
The
licenses
and
consumer
services
division
recommends
approval
of
an
on
sale,
liquor
with
Sunday
sales
license
with
limited
entertainment
for
butcher,
salt.
A
Are
there
any
questions
for
staff
on
item
number
three,
seeing
none
will
open
the
public
hearing
on
item
number
three,
which
is
an
on
sale,
liquor
with
Sunday
sales,
limited
entertainment
for
butcher
salt?
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
to
this
issue?
Please
step
forward
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
hi.
M
M
We've
been
in
business
for
seven
years
now,
with
Butch
result
with
Linda
Lee
being
our
parent
company
over
those
seven
years,
we've
grown
our
company
great
front
of
it.
Now
we
have
two
trucks
out
on
the
street,
we're
with
our
food
truck
and
now
we're
opening
up
a
brick
and
mortar
facility
with
hope
to
having
liquor
for
on
sale.
M
We
love
our
area,
we're
in
that
sort
of
what
we
like
to
call
the
the
industrial
northeast,
which
is
that
no-man's
triangle
land,
but
we
love
that
area.
We
love
growing
that
our
neighbors
are
great
and
we
took
the
company
the
business
of
building
over
from
another
company
that
had
owned
it
for
fifty
five
years
and
their
main
thing
was
to
keep
a
local
business
in
it,
and
so
we're
trying
to
to
continue
that
legacy
and
have
our
local
business
be
part
of
that
area.
In
that.
N
F
Had
the
pleasure
of
meeting
with
Jeanne
area
my
open
office
hours,
which
was
it
was
great
to
meet
you
all
and
I.
We
had
a
great
conversation
around
a
number
of
things,
including
a
lively
coke
versus
Pepsi
debate
that
was
initiated
by
some
constituents
and
and
I'm
really
excited
to
have
you
guys
in
the
neighborhood.
I,
really
appreciate
you
stopping
by
open
office
hours
as
well,
because
it's
always
great
to
put
I'd,
be
thanking
you
anyway.
F
A
We
have
had
incredible
success
as
a
result
of
the
hard
work
of
a
lot
of
people
in
this
community,
including
you,
two,
ladies,
who
are
doing
something
incredible
where
you
are
is
pretty
close
to
where
I
live.
So
we
should
go
up
there
together.
I
would
love
to
see
your
restaurant
I
really
give
you
a
lot
of
credit
for
opening
up
in
this
location
and
hopefully
like
what
happened
in
the
previous
application.
Others
will
follow
you
so
you'll
you've
been
there
you'll
be
an
anchor
in
this
location
and
others
will
come.
A
F
F
F
Could
the
city
collect
our
access
data
that
would
further
help
inform
our
policy
decisions
related
to
small
businesses
and
three,
given
that
the
private
market
has
perpetuated
inequity
in
access
to
capital
for
bi
Park
small
businesses?
How
could
the
city
create
or
modify
programs
to
assist
businesses
struggling
to
access
Capital,
and
so
my
hope
would
be
that
this
work
group
could
explore
these
questions
and
and
similar
to
how
the
renter
first
policy
I
think
came
into
came
into
existence
with
rec
services.
F
O
A
F
O
F
So
I'm
open
to
either
I
think
I
think
that
we
could
either
bring
a
different
staff
direction
to
housing.
I
also
think
that
I
think
on
the
housing
front.
F
We
we
also
have
done
a
lot
of
work
in
in
in
leaning
into
these
questions.
I
think
especially
around,
but
I
do
think,
especially
around
data
collection.
I
think
that
those
are
some
questions
that
we
still
should
be
exploring
so
so
yeah,
so
I
didn't
have
a
path
forward,
a
clear
path
for
when
it
came
to
housing
policy,
but
I
did
want
to
narrow
the
focus
for
today,
just
because
we're
at
yeah
we're
Irish
Committee
but
I'm
happy
to
take
that
I'm
happy
to
take
that
up
and
and
work
with
you
on
that.
But.
O
A
O
To
be
clear,
I
was
asking
questions
more
because
I
didn't
want
to
create
another
workgroup.
It
was
focused
on
that
and
I
appreciated
that
there
might
be
more
of
a
I,
don't
know
more
of
a
needed
to
focus
and
get
some
input
on
the
small
business
development
and,
as
we
learned
in
a
report,
I
think
it
was
some
two
weeks
ago
we're
already.
We
did
an
evaluation.
O
We
did
a
review
or
already
on
track
to
do
some
things
so
partly
I'm,
seeing
this
workgroup
is
to
help
implement
that
work
and
drill
down
in
it
and
I'm
the
housing
side.
We
have
a
housing,
Advisory
Committee
on
the
small
business
side.
We
don't
really
have
any
kind
of,
and
on
the
housing
side
we
have
a
policy
person
there
and
and
not
to
say
that
small
business
staff
doesn't
work
on
policy,
but
while
so
a
lot
of
it
is
the
program
and
the
program,
implementation.
G
Thank
you
checking
so
first
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
bringing
this
forward.
I.
Think
the
there
are
a
couple
of
things
that
I
think
are
very
promising
here.
I
think
there
is
more
that
we
could
do
with
with
more
data
and
and
with
a
more
informed
understanding
of
commercial
real
estate
and
of
how
particular
sectors
are
performing.
G
It
would
be
great
for
us
to
more
proactively
know
when
a
sector
is
struggling,
so
we
can
sort
of
be
thinking
ahead
to
that
and
I
think
that
there's
ways
that
forming
this
you
know
performing
this
workgroup
could
really
move
us
in
a
direction.
There
are
cities
that
are
much
more
proactive
in
some
elements
of
this
and
it's
a
policy
choice
to
either
be
more
proactive
or
not
be,
and
to
think
that
through
together,
so
I
think
this
is
a
really
good
step
to
put
those
decisions
in
front
of
us
in
a
more
concrete
way.
G
So
I
appreciate
that
one
thing
I
wondered
is:
is
this
names,
the
internal
city,
stakeholders
that
would
need
to
be
involved
in
the
conversation,
but
it
doesn't
suggest
getting
small
business
owners
into
the
conversation
about
how
we
would
engage
with
small
businesses
and
I'm
wondering
sort
of
why
that
choice
was
made
or
if
that's
something
that
you
feel
like
is
implied
in
this,
and
you
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
named
the
departments.
Or
can
you
just
kind
of
articulate
what
you're
picturing
in
terms
of
stakeholder
and
gear.
F
I
I
think
I
think
it
says
something
relatively
vague,
like
other
stakeholders,
as
needed.
I
didn't
want
to
get
into
naming
specific
businesses
or
naming
specific
business
or
business
organizations,
and
so
I
felt
like
that's
something
that
we
could
maybe
upon
a
first
meeting,
get
some
feedback
on
from
staff
or
from
other
council
members
about
how
we
want
to
interface
with
other
businesses
but
yeah.
That's
why
the
language
just
kept
a
little
vague,
but
I
absolutely
do
anticipate
engagement
with
small
businesses
and.
A
Will
just
note
I
did
have
an
opportunity
to
review
this
language
with
council
member
Allison
I'm
very
supportive
of
it,
because
they
see
it
as
a
follow-up
to
the
small
business
report
that
we
already
had
in
committee
and
then
an
opportunity
to
ask
three
very
specific
questions
rather
than
we're
not
doing
enough.
What
does
that
mean
in
an
open-ended
way?
We're
actually
doing
a
lot,
but
these
are
three
very
specific
questions
that
came
up
and
I'm,
hoping
that
the
staff
team
can
work
to
determine
how
they're
going
to
make
this
move
forward.
P
P
Small
businesses
have
been
demonstrated
as
a
way
to
be
able
to
build
generational
wealth,
particularly
for
black
and
Latino
families,
and,
as
we
think
about
how
do
we
address
racial
inequities
that
have
been
formed
in
the
city.
There
is
really
a
critical
opportunity
by
focusing
on
small
businesses
as
a
pathway
forward.
P
Become
business
owners
in
the
community
and
I
really
appreciate
exploring
the
question
on
access
to
capital,
there's
just
so
much
research
that
shows
that
access
to
capital,
due
to
other
barriers,
is
one
of
the
most
significant
barriers
for
bi
park.
Business
owners
or
entrepreneurs
become
sustainable
business
owners
and
so
I'm
really
eager
to
look
to
get
those
results.
P
One
of
the
suggestions,
questions
that
I
have
and
we've
touched
base
about
it,
but
I'm
curious
about
when
we
can
get
a
report
back
on
these
questions,
to
be
able
for
us
as
a
council
to
be
able
to
have
a
conversation
and
see
where
their
policy
changes
that
are
needed,
where
there
are
investments
that
are
needed.
That's
not
currently
included
in
here,
but
I.
Think
that
that
you
know
we
can
have
a
conversation
offline
about
when
we
could
bring
that
back.
P
A
I
A
I
think
the
idea
I
don't
want
to
put
a
date
on
telling
them
one
to
come
back,
because
we
do
that
all
too
frequently
and
they're
not
ready
or
it
doesn't
make
sense.
Councilmember
Ellison
is
the
lead
on
this.
Well,
you
know
work
with
staff
to
try
to
move
forward,
but
the
goal
is
to
try
to
shape
the
budget.
That's
the
whole
purpose
of
this
actually
is
to
take
it
up
now
to
incise
oom,
that's
what
you
were
thinking
as
well.
That's.
P
Exactly
right,
I
I
know
that
it's.
These
are
some
big
questions,
but
if
we
have
them
answered
in
October,
for
example,
we
may
have
really
missed
the
opportunity
to
have
more
substantive
conversations
prior
to
things
being
cemented.
So
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
to
the
leadership
of
C
ped
for
this
and
I
look
forward
to
continuing
conversations.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
just
wanted
to
clarify,
then
just
so
I
understand
the
discussion.
Items
printed
in
our
agenda
are
different
from
the
staff
direction
in
the
separate
piece
of
paper.
So
are
we
sort
of
merging
both
of
these
items
under
the
same
action,
or
are
these
two
different
things
that
are
happening
at
the
same
time?
Sort
of
concurrently
yeah.