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From YouTube: January 9, 2020 Zoning & Planning Committee
Description
Minneapolis Zoning & Planning Committee Meeting
https://lims.minneapolismn.gov
A
Good
morning,
I'm
gonna
call
to
order
this
regular
meeting
of
the
zoning
and
planning
committee
for
a
Thursday
January,
9th
Happy
New
Year
everybody.
My
name
is
Jeremy
Schrader
and
I'm.
The
chair
of
this
committee
with
me
at
the
dynastar
council
president
bender
council
member
at
reich
and
councilmember
Goodman.
Let
the
record
reflect
that
we
have
a
quorum.
We've
got
10
items
on
today's
agenda,
including
a
public
hearing,
two
quasi
judicial
hearings
and
two
discussion
items
and
but
we'll
first
handle
the
consent
agenda,
which
is
in
items
number
4
through
8
item
number.
A
4
is
a
parkland
dedication
ordinance
to
staff
item
number
5
is
a
rezoning
application
submitted
by
it.
Kevin
ad
walk
for
1700
144th
Avenue
north
item
number.
6
is
a
rezoning
application
submitted
by
John
Salter
Minh
for
several
addresses
on
ill-bred
Avenue,
north
and
Humboldt
Avenue.
North
number
7
is
a
rezoning
application
submitted
by
benificial
Investments
LLC
for
909
1
0
Oliver
Avenue
North.
An
item
8
is
a
rezoning
application
submitted
by
Scott
covered
for
the
property
at
35,
28
Bloomberg
Avenue.
Is
there
any
discussion
items
or
it?
B
C
B
B
Yet
with
Habitat
for
Humanity
for
some
home
ownership
opportunities
in
the
neighborhood
that
would
be
affordable,
I
am
really
thrilled
that
our
staff
has
been
able
to
negotiate
with
the
developer
that
some
of
the
units
in
this
building
will
be
affordable.
Even
though
inclusionary
zoning
would
not
cover
this
project.
B
Allison
has
made
a
personal
commitment
to
help
those
residents
stay
north,
so
I
think,
given
what
we're
dealing
with
where
this
rezoning
is
consistent
with
2040,
the
developer
has
gone
out
of
their
way
to
do
what
councilmember
Allison
has
asked
them
to
do.
I
personally
think
this
is
a
good
compromise
and
I
appreciate
all
the
work
that
he
has
done
as
well
as
our
staff
to
make
this
happen.
A
Thank
you
there,
any
other
questions
or
discussion
items.
Seeing
none
I
moved
the
consent
agenda,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye,
all
those
opposed
say
no,
the
eyes
have
it
and
that
motion
carries
well.
Next
move
on
to
item
number,
one
in
its
application
submitted
by
the
independent
facilitator,
assess
for
an
interim
use,
permit
that
was
on
our
agenda
last
December
and
was
continued
to
this
meeting
before
I.
Reopen
the
public
hearing.
I
will
invite
staff
up
for
a
brief
presentation,
good.
D
D
The
applicant
has
applied
for
an
interim
use
permit
to
allow
for
an
emergency
shelter
serving
up
to
50
individuals
who
identified
as
female
the
subject.
Property
is
owned,
are
one
a
single-family
district,
so
the
applicant
apply
for
reasonable
accommodation
to
increase
the
maximum
occupancy
from
six,
which
would
be
allowed
in
the
R&A
district
to
50.
That
was
approved
back
in
November.
D
As
the
chair
has
noted,
the
application
was
continued
from
our
meeting
in
December
to
today
in
order
to
allow
for
more
public
engagement
on
the
proposed
project
staff
extended
the
60-day
review
period
to
March
13th.
That's
just
an
additional
notation
from
the
original
staff
report
that
would
be
included
in
your
packets.
Today,
the
existing
Gordon's
Center
was
built
in
1950
as
a
school
and
has
been
vacant
since
2005.
D
The
surrounding
area
is
predominantly
residential
with
a
religious
institution
nearby
and
then
the
school
adjacent
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
establish
a
new
emergency
shelter
serving
up
to
50
women
in
the
Gordon
Center
building
the
duration
of
stay
for
an
emergency
shelter
is
30
days
or
less.
The
proposed
shelter
would
allow
for
access
to
housing,
laundry
and
bathroom
facilities.
In
addition,
there
would
be
some
case
management
and
health
care
provided
on-site.
The
applicant
is
available
for
more
details
on
the
operations
as
well.
D
Emergency
shelters
are
conditional
use
in
the
Armani
district,
the
applicant,
in
order
to
allow
for
a
more
expedited
approach
and
also
to
allow
for
the
use
to
establish
and
be
tested
on
site
has
applied
for
an
interim
use
permit.
An
interim
use
permit
is
allowed
for
conditional
uses
in
a
district,
and
the
maximum
duration
is
up
to
five
years.
The
applicant
is
asking
for
the
shelter
to
operate
essentially
as
soon
as
they
are
approved
through
June
1st
of
2024.
D
If
the
interim
use
permit
is
approved,
and
we
would
come
up
upon
that
expiration
date
in
2024,
the
applicant
would
be
required
to
either
convert
to
an
allowed
use
or
apply
for
a
conditional
use
permit
to
continue
the
use
on
the
property.
A
conditional
use
would
then
stay
with
the
property
for
the
duration.
They
wouldn't
have
to
come
back
to
reapply
in
the
future.
D
The
staff
report
has
been
provided.
Staff
finds
that
all
of
the
required
findings
have
been
met.
The
applicant
has
demonstrated
or
agreed
to
compliance
for
the
specific
development
standards
for
an
emergency
shelter.
Those
are
listed
on
page
four
of
the
staff
report.
There
is
no
minimum
off
street
parking
for
an
emergency
shelter,
yet
there
would
be
28
spaces
provided
for
either
residents
or
staff
for
the
shelter
there
will
also
be
offered
there's
also
service
parking
available
along
the
existing
alley.
A
A
C
You
mr.
chair
I,
just
thank
you
for
moving
the
item
I'm
very
much
in
support
of
this
when
I
think
staff,
at
both
Hennepin
County
and
at
the
city
for
working
together
to
really
you
know,
bring
this
forward
with
some
urgency,
as
winter
is
here,
and
particularly
with
the
tragic
fire
at
the
Drake
Hotel
we,
which
has
exacerbated
the
strain
on
our
shelter
system.
C
Of
course,
that
was
a
privately
owned
facility
that
provided
very
low
cost
housing
to
individuals,
renting
private
rooms,
as
well
as
overflow,
family
shelter.
For
our
system.
This
is
even
more
needed
than
it
was
before
the
break
that
we
just
had
in
our
in
our
council
committee
schedule.
So
and
you
know
shelter
we
have
so
many
needs
in
our
shelter
system,
one
of
which
is
female.
Adult
single
female
people
who
identify
as
female
and
so
I'm
I'm
really
happy
to
see
this
come
forward
with
such
a
partnership
between
the
school
or
the
county.
C
The
city,
you
know,
I,
think
I
received
a
lot
of
communication
from
Krishna
Connelly
on
this
I
want
to
thank
her
as
well
for
just
her
communication
and
leadership.
So
it's
one
step
forward:
I
think
we
are
seeing
unprecedented
coordination,
both
here
just
locally
in
Hennepin
County,
but
across
our
region,
on
bringing
resources
to
potential
sites
for
shelter.
I'm
hopeful,
I'm,
very
hopeful
that
you
know
not
just
here:
hadn't
been
County
but
across
the
region,
we'll
start
to
see
more
and
more
shelters
and
more
shelters
open
for
specific
populations
who
have
specific
needs.
A
Thank
you
not
seeing
any
other
discussion.
Discussion
I
will
call
vote
all
those
in
favor,
say
aye
aye,
all
supposed
to
say
no,
the
ice
habit
and
that
motion
carries
items
number
two
and
three
are
quasi
judicial
hearings
regarding
the
appeals
of
the
Planning
Commission's
decision
regarding
a
new
mixed-use
building,
it
located
4:07
15th
Avenue,
southeast
14,
12
and
14
28th,
a
28th
5th
Street
north
south
east
and
14
13
and
14
17
4th
Street
southeast.
The
applicants
have
requested
and
agreed
to
a
2
cycle
delay
of
a
council
action
on
these
appeals.
A
So
I
will
move
to
continue
these
hearings
to
our
meeting
scheduled
for
February
6
and
since
the
letters
were
sent
out
to
neighboring
property
owners,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
chance
for
a
public
hearing.
I
will
now
open
the
hearing
and
I'm
in
case
there's
anybody
here
that
would
like
to
speak
and
is
not
able
to
come
back
on
February
6.
Would
anyone
like
to
come
up
and
speak
anyone
speaking
on
this
item?
A
All
right
not
seeing
anyone
I
will
move
to
continue
this
hearing
to
February
6,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye,
all
those
opposed
say
no,
the
eyes
have
it
and
that
motion
carries
with
that.
We'll
move
now
move
the
discussion
I'd
agenda
and
we
have
two
discussion
items
but
I'll.
First
move
to
postponed
item
number
10
which
to
our
February
6
meeting
because
number
ten
was
the
rezoning
application
related
to
the
same
properties
mentioned
in
our
quasi-judicial
hearings,
so
will
be
most
appropriate
to
delay
that,
to
the
same
time.
A
E
The
current
boundary
is
strictly
around
the
stadium.
The
proposed
amendment
would
expand
that
district
one
additional
block,
a
previous
amendment,
did
go
before
Planning
Commission
and
Z
and
P
that
had
a
much
larger
scope
than
this
in
working
with
the
neighborhood.
They
thought
that
was
too
much.
They
encouraged
the
a
council
member
to
put
forward
something
with
a
smaller
scope,
and
that
is
here
before
you.
E
The
proposed
ordinance
would
limit
expansions
and
digital
conversions
to
existing
off
premise
signs
and
billboards
and
requires
sign
credits
to
be
used.
The
amendment
would
also
propose
to
remove
language
associated
with
regulating
city
financing
of
billboard
advertising.
This
amendment
was
put
in
in
2010
the
elimination
of
this
provision
would
streamline
code
and
remove
unnecessary
regulation.
E
The
Planning
Commission
approved
the
removal
of
the
language
limiting
regulating
city
financing
of
billboard,
but
did
not
approve
the
expanded
district
around
the
stadium.
There
are
two
versions
in
front
of
you,
one,
the
original
that
staff
brought
forward
with
the
expanded
district,
as
well
as
the
Planning
Commission
version
that
is
strictly
removing
striking
that
language.
As
far
as
the
city
financing
of
billboards
is
concerned,
a
little
background
on
this
when
the
stadium
was
constructed,
it
was
not
subject
to
zoning
code
standards
that
includes
the
structure
as
well
as
signage
on
site.
F
So,
just
to
make
sure
that
I
understand
it,
so
somebody
would
have
to
convert
an
existing
sign
to
a
digital
sign
it
within
the
district.
That's
right!
So,
can
you
tell
me
how
many
potential
existing
signs
that
are
ready?
Digital
could
be
converted
right
now.
Is
it
just
one
sign
we're
talking
about?
There's.
E
Two
sides
to
sit
so
this
is
the
blocking
question
here.
There's
the
restaurant.
It
has
a
billboard
over
the
top
of
that
and
there
is
a
free-standing
billboard
near
the
parking
lot
Google
Street
View.
This
would
be
right
near
the
corner
right
near
the
Viking
ship
in
this
location.
So
again
here's
the
restaurant
with
the
billboard
over
the
top
and
the
other
freestanding
one.
Those
would
be
the
only
two
billboards
that
would
be
able
to
be
converted
with
this
proposed
language
and
when.
F
E
Right
they
can't
move
them
around.
Okay,
there
is
a
caveat
in
the
language
that
says
the
existing
billboards
must
face
north.
There
is
another
billboard
behind
the
one.
That's
over
the
restaurant
that
face
itself
being
that
it
doesn't
face
north
that
one
would
not
be
eligible
to
be
converted
to
digital
okay.
G
Thank
You
mr.
chair,
with
consultation
of
the
councilmember
sonic,
has
been
working
on.
This
I
will
move
the
current
submitted
ordinance
as
described
by
staff
as
described
and
and
I
think
the
benefit
and
trade-offs
have
been
pretty
well
clarified
by
staff,
but
I
think.
The
key
thing
is
to
make
sure
that
this
is
a
circumscribed
approach,
that
this
isn't
a
door
opening
approach,
and
maybe
staff
could
speak
to
that
aspect
of
what
we're
doing
here
in
terms
of
regulating
beyond
what
we're
proposing
today.
E
We
did
have
some
correspondence
with
or
Asami's
office.
There
was
some
additional
language
that
was
proposed
that
didn't
make
it
into
the
packets.
The
third
version
limited
size
of
the
existing
billboards.
That
would
be
converted.
We
would
require
that
the
converted
signage
shall
be
the
city
in
the
same
location
and
shall
be
the
same
size
or
smaller
than
the
existing
signage.
G
H
H
So
when
the
author
had
approached
us
about,
you
know
seeing
if
there
could
be
some
kind
of
kind
of
leveling,
the
ground
of
fuel,
for
a
science
next
to
the
state,
and
we
looked
at
what
would
be
what
would
address
some
of
those
inequities,
but
without
expanding
a
district
towards
the
DMA
and
others,
we've
looked
at
existing
signs,
we
looked
at
a
possibly
doing
it
through
some
kind
of
conditional
use
or
variance.
What
we
really
came
down
to
us
is
that
we
wanted
to
make
a
small
district
with
a
limited
number
of
existing
signs.
H
We
had
worked
with
the
City
Attorney's
Office
on
crafting
language.
When
we
did
the
subject
matter,
introduction
making
clear
it
was
only
for
existing
signs
so
that,
therefore
we
weren't
expanding
while
geographically
the
district
expanded
the
universe
of
science
was
not
expanding.
We
have.
We
have
used
this
tool
of
allowing
science
to
be
converted
to
digital
kind
of
embracing
market
forces
to
use
that
as
a
tool
to
get
rid
of
more
non-conforming
in
less
desirable
areas.
This
is
an
extension
of
that
policy.
H
Given
the
types
of
science
we
see
around
the
stadium
I
think
that
it
will
kind
of
fits
in
that
context.
If
you
will,
but
again,
the
effort
was
made
to
kind
of
limit
what
science
would
be
changed
over.
So
notwithstanding
a
geographic
expansion,
it's
really
talking
about
a
few
individual
sites.
Thank.
G
H
I
understand
him
chairman
Schrader
councilman
break.
If
I
may
I
just
add
one
further
point:
the
size
piece
came
up
at
the
Planning
Commission
I
believe
the
owners
signed
indicated.
They
had
no
intentions
about
expanding
the
sign.
I
think
the
language
you
see
is
just
more
of
like
okay.
We
trust
you
and
we'll
put
that
in
the
ordinance.
So
that
was
just
the
added
piece
so
that
there
would
never
be
a
doubt.
H
C
You
mr.
chair,
this
is
probably
the
third
or
fourth
version
of
this
I've
seen
over
the
years
and
while
I
think
it's
a
significant
improvement
over
previous
versions
and
think
custom,
I
Reich
and
the
author
for
making
those
changes.
I,
don't
support
this
change.
I
appreciate
the
perspective
of
the
folks
that
we've
heard
from
in
this
letter
from
the
Neighborhood
Association
about
consistency,
but
I
also
think
we
hear
so
much
from
folks
who
just
don't
like
the
impact
that
signs
have,
especially
as
they
become
more
sort
of
bright
and
digitalized.
A
Thank
you,
I
did
I
did
have
one
question,
I
see
some
of
the
members
of
the
audience.
If
you
would
indulge
kind
of
one
of
the
big
things
for
myself,
as
well
as
others
on
Planning
Commission
is
what's
what
are
some
of
the
conditions?
If
this
area
was
to
be
redeveloped,
we
were
looking
at
the
Google
Street
View
right
now
in
a
prime
piece
of
downtown
across
from
the
stadium.
The
worry
that
I
have
and
others
have
is:
what
happens
when
this
is
digitized?
Are
the
billboards
Mart
worth
more
than
the
land
there?
A
I
Good
morning,
chair
committee
members,
my
name
is
Matthew
Allen
with
Clear
Channel
Outdoor.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak,
just
to
clarify
some
of
your
questions
on
the
redevelopment
and
what's
happening
with
the
property
I'm
happy
to
answer
that,
and
we
did
submit
a
letter
from
our
landlord
to
you
specifically
to
address
that
the
language
in
our
the
what
our
landlord
is
indicated
is
they
are
open
to
redevelopment
of
future
right
now.
I
They
do
believe
the
highest
and
best
use
is
a
restaurant
bar
they're
not
only
serving
what's
going
on
in
the
stadium,
but
also
just
serving
the
growing
neighborhood
itself
having
the
neighborhood
I'm
service
in
food
center.
So
they
are
actively
I'm
working
with
another
operator
to
get
in
there
and
that's
what
would
operate
now.
They
are
not
opposed
to
future
redevelopment
of
property.
The
agreements
we
have
with
them
does
allow
for
redevelopment.
It
certainly
better
hope
is
part
of
any
redevelopment.
We'd
like
to
be
part
of
that.
I
We
think
we
can
add
a
unique
aspect
of
building
and
our
signs
actually
be
can
become
an
economic
tool
for
redevelopment.
The
income
from
that
is
a
source
of
help,
source
of
financing
for
developers
to
redevelop,
and
we
can
incorporate
uniquely
new
building
like
we've
done
it
Mayo
Clinic's
square
in
other
places
downtown.
So
we
see
our
our
boards
is
the
modernization
of
the
boards
at
this
location,
helping
the
site
and
upgrading
as
it
is,
and
and
also
helping
in
the
future.
Alright.
B
Would
have
probably
not
said
anything
but
I
just
had
to
ask
you
this
question.
The
whole
reason
we're
in
this
conundrum
is
because
Clear
Channel
didn't
want
to
move
billboards
and
a
lot
to
allow
for
an
affordable
housing
project
to
happen.
We
wouldn't
even
be
discussing
this,
but
for
the
billboards
standing
in
the
way
of
affordable
housing.
B
So
please
explain
to
me
how
increasing
the
value
of
a
billboard
and
the
stream
of
revenue
that
it
provides,
helps
economic
development
I'm,
very
interested
in
that
analysis,
since
Eric,
the
red
that
is,
there
has
announced
he's
moving
so
clearly,
food
and
beverage
isn't
the
number
one
thing:
it's:
the
stream
of
revenue
from
that
freakin,
billboard
that
we
should
never
really
be
allowing,
but
we're
being
forced
to
as
a
result
of
Clear
Channel
and
the
property
owners,
not
allowing
an
affordable
housing
project
to
happen.
So
now
it's
all
out
there.
B
I
I'd
like
to
back
up
a
little
bit
on
the
history
of
the
site,
then
I
think
what
you're
referring
to
with
the
affordable
housing
project.
This
whole
project
started
about
four
years
ago,
when
we
were
approached
by
our
property
owner
to
meet
with
first
covenant,
Church
and
a
real-estate
developer
for
the
property.
At
that
time,
the
property
existed.
Hubert's
was
there
the
church
in
a
large
parking
lot,
and
we
were
asked
to
help
with
the
revision
on
redevelopment
of
the
block
and
what
that
entailed.
Was
our
land
owner
head
to
our
property
owner
landlord?
I
So
we
work
together
collectively
as
a
block
to
redevelop
the
property
at
the
same
time
that
the
property
owner
was
reinvesting
in
the
property
they
brought
in
Eric
the
Red
they
upgraded
Hubert's,
they
upgraded
their
parking
lot.
So
it
was
a
plan
to
update
the
whole
area
as
a
stadium
had
been
built
and
as
the
whole
areas
being
redeveloped.
So
we
very
much
wanted
to
help
and
participate
in
that.
Well,.
B
If
you
were
gracious
and
being
helpful,
then
we
don't
have
to
do
this,
then
we
can
just
say:
okay,
your
billboard,
you
cooperated
the
Billboard,
didn't
stand
in
the
way
of
redevelopment
and
now,
let's
move
on,
but
the
reason
we're
all
having
to
vote
for
something
most
of
us
don't
like
is
because
you
basically
were
promised
that
you
could
have
a
digital
billboard
here
as
a
condition
for
making
some
changes.
So
let's
just
be
honest
about
that.
If,
in
fact
you
cannot
say
yes,
that
was
the
agreement,
I'm
gonna
vote
against
it
today.
What.
I
Certainly
something
that
we
raised,
but
we
never.
We
did
not
make
that
a
condition
of
us
moving.
We
moved
the
sign,
you
know
we
moved
the
sent,
the
signs
already
been
moved,
our
sign
is
there
and
we
don't
have
this
approval
yet
at
the
time
we
raised
it
at
the
same
time,
we
asked
for
it
and
it
obviously
morphed
into
something
larger
at
the
time
and
ultimately.
B
B
This
is
all
happening
because
you
guys
felt
you
had
a
right
to
something
and
we're
just
following
up
with
that
right
versus.
Oh
we're
helpful
in
redevelopment
I've,
never
seen
a
scenario
where
increasing
the
value
of
a
one-story
building
by
a
stream
of
revenue
from
a
digital
billboard
encourages
redevelopment.
I
mean
I,
like
didn't
get
elected
yesterday,
I've
seen
this
over
a
long
period
of
time,
so
I
think
billboards
are
negative.
B
Digital
billboards
are
more
negative
and
we're
only
doing
this
to
keep
up
our
end
of
the
bargain,
because
you
were
cooperative
and
allowing
us
to
build
affordable
housing.
That
is
the
truth,
and
we
are
people
of
our
word
and
will
follow
through,
but
I
mean
for
you
to
suggest
that
you're
helpful
in
redevelopment
is
just
simply
not
true
and
I
would
never
have
gotten
up
and
said
that
if
I
were
you
in.
I
Stating
that
we
are,
we
can
become
look.
What
I'm
saying
is
we
become
becoming
a
finance
tool
for
a
developer,
we're
an
income
stream
like
any
other
tenant
the
income
we
provide,
that
developer,
allows
them
to
finance
that
building.
That's
what
I
was
saying
with
that
statement.
The
other
reason
we're
here
is:
we
do
believe
it's
the
right
spot.
We
didn't
work
with
the
neighborhood
groups.
We
did
get
their
support
to
do
this.
We
do
you
think
our
signs
bring
vibrancy
and
energy
to
an
entertainment
area
and
beyond
that
we
do
we
do
provide.