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B
E
B
We
have
multiple
categories
of
on
our
meeting
agenda:
public
hearings,
consent,
items
and
discussion.
I
will
go
through
of
the
consent
items
first,
any
committee
member
can
pull
them
for
further
deliberation,
starting
with
scroll
down
here
11
items
starting
with
item
four,
which
is
the
contract
amendment
with
custom
products
and
services,
stone,
pros
llc
for
sidewalk
and
parking
snow,
clearing,
removal
and
ice
control
services
for
special
service
districts.
B
Five
is
the
contract
amendment
with
safety
signs
llc
for
rental
traffic
control
devices.
Six
is
the
contract
member
with
mayor
contracting
incorporated
for
the
61st
street
west
street
reconstruction
project.
Seven
is
the
contract
amendment
with
olson
and
newsworld
engineers
for
the
28th
avenue
south
bridge
replacement
project.
B
Eight
is
the
contract
amendment
with
suburban
elevator
of
minnesota
for
elevator
maintenance.
Nine
is
the
weber
parkway
44th
avenue,
north
lindale
avenue
north
and
humboldt
avenue
north
street
reconstruction
project
and
that's
a
project
designation
and
setting
the
public
hearing
for
let's
see
here
november
4th
of
this
year.
B
Item
10
is
the
fourth
street
north
and
south
street
reconstruction
project.
Also
the
project
designation
and
that
also
will
have
a
public
hearing
on
november.
4Th
11
is
the
uniform
assessment
rates
establishing
the
2021
rates.
12
is
a
solid
waste
definition,
ordinance
setting
a
public
hearing
for
that
and
that
will
be
held
on
october.
7Th
13th
is
the
bid
for
the
winona
west
lift
station
project.
B
C
F
G
H
I
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
sherry
and
members
of
the
committee,
the
metropolitan
council,
environmental
services
or
mces,
collects
and
treats
wastewater
at
its
seven
regional
treatment
plants.
Mces
is
responsible
for
ensuring
that
sufficient
sewer
capacity
exists
to
serve
plant
development
and
prefer
for
providing
regional
wastewater
collection
and
treatment
funds
to
operate.
The
metropolitan
council
systems
are
collected
in
two
ways
through
municipal
wastewater
charges
and
through
sac.
I
I
These
fees
are
charged
based
upon
the
estimated
maximum
potential
daily
wastewater
flow,
which
is
directly
linked
to
the
usage
of
individual
properties.
Sac
is
owed
when
a
property
first
connects
to
the
regional
wastewater
system.
Sac
may
also
be
charged
when
a
business
grows
or
a
property
changes
use
in
a
way
that
creates
more
demand
on
the
wastewater
system.
I
Sac
is
charged
by
the
metropolitan
council,
two
local
governments,
which
in
turn
pass
the
charge
onto
property
owners.
Minneapolis
pays
sac
to
metropolitan
council
and
bills,
property
owners
to
recoup
the
upfront
sac
payments
at
least
once
every
three
years,
the
metropolitan
council
performs
an
audit-like
process
of
local
government.
Sac
records
called
a
community
review
as
a
result
of
the
2014
community
review
in
minneapolis.
I
That
council
identified
11
accounts
that
had
outstanding
sac
fees
due
as
of
today,
four
of
those
properties
still
have
outstanding
sac
fees
representing
a
total
of
nineteen
thousand
sixty
dollars.
These
are
the
properties
identified
on
the
assessment
rule,
provided
all
property.
Taxpayers
were
mailed
a
notice
of
public
hearing
letter
with
the
amount
to
be
assessed.
I
I
At
this
time,
we
request
approval
of
a
resolution
to
adopt
the
assessments
as
listed
on
file
in
the
city,
engineer,
special
assessment
office
in
the
total
amount
of
nineteen
thousand
and
sixty
dollars
and
transmission
of
said
assessments
to
the
hennepin
county
auditor.
I
will
stand
for
any
questions,
also
on
the
line.
Our
staff
from
cped's
development
review
office,
which
manages
and
administers
the
sac
program
for
the
city
of
minneapolis.
B
I
am
not
seeing
any
indication.
I
will
now
open
the
public
hearing
for
item
one.
I
do
know
in
the
chat
bar
that
we
do
have
someone
signed
up
for
that
item
and
may
speak
it's
as
can
corner.
B
F
Hello,
okay,
my
name
is
one
of
the
properties.
I
suppose
my
issue
is
that
I'm
pretty
sure
I
paid
the
fee
and
I've
sent
you
an
email
explaining
their
circumstances,
but
essentially
I
do
remember
in
2013
when
we
renovated
the
building
that
the
sexy
was
assassin,
an
issue
a
letter
was
issued
and
that
our
building
permit
was
contingent
on
payment
of
that
fee
for
the
issuing
of
the
building
permit.
F
So
I'm
very
sure,
since
we
got
a
billing
commit
issue
that
we
did
pay
the
fee,
I
also
have
I
mean
I
have
no
record.
I
have
no
cancelled
checks
or
any
bank
account
anymore
from
that
time
period
seven
years
ago,
but
I
I
also
have
I
have
some
records
from
the
loan
from
the
bank
that
took
the
taxi
into
consideration
as
my
contribution
to
the
project.
F
So
the
very
least
I
know
that
the
bank
has
commented
and
the
bank
wouldn't
have
counted
it
unless
I
would
have
submitted
a
receipt
or
a
cancel
check
or
some
evidence
of
me
making
that
payment
claim.
So
I'm
very
sure
that
I
paid
the
fee
and
I
think
it's
fairly
unreasonable
after
seven
years
to
come
and
that's
really
the
first
time
I
heard
about
it
was
this
year
when
I
was
sent
a
letter
about
this
special
assessment
and
then
about
this
hearing.
F
F
C
F
Of
the
building
permit
was
ultimately
contingent
on
payment
of
all
fees
related
to
the
project,
and
so
I'm
pretty
sure
I
paid
it
now.
I
have
no
physical
evidence
of
that,
but
if
my
memory
serves
and
all
the
circumstances
circumstantial
evidence
that
I
have
access
to
suggest
that
I
paid
the
fee,
that's
really
all
I
can
say-
and
I
think
it's
sort
of
unreasonable
again
after
seven
years
to
ask
me
to
provide
proof
that
I
paid
rather
than
the
city.
You
know
providing
proof
that
I
didn't
pay.
B
No,
I
think
you
very
clearly
articulated
the
situation
from
your
perspective
and
and
I'll
see.
If
there's
any
other
people
who
want
to
make
comment
and
then
we
will
respond
to
all
comments
collectively
at
the
end
clerk
is
there
any
other
person
indicating
wishing
to
speak.
A
G
A
From
mech
council
did,
go
out
was
sent
to
the
city
and
to
them
indicating
that
one
sac
charge
was
due.
What
appears
to
have
happened
is
staff
at
the
time
did
not
add
that
feline
into
the
larger
building
permit,
and
so
the
permit
was
issued
and
all
the
work
was
done,
but
the
2345
sac
fee
or
whatever
it
is,
was
not
added
at
that
time,
and
it
wasn't
until
the
met
council
in
their
three-year
audit
of
all
of
our
records
came
through
and
said.
A
We
see
no
record,
we
see
that
we
issued
you
a
letter
and
a
letter
to
the
property
owner
that
sac
was
due.
We
don't
have
a
corresponding
record
in
our
accounts,
showing
that
the
city
moved
that
money
over
there.
So
that's
what
happened
on
that
one.
If
need
be
again,
we
had
the
change
from
our
old,
permitting
system
kiva
into
elms
in
2016.,
so
we
can
try
to
go
back
and
work
with
our
it
staff
to
pull
the
fee
records
on
that
to
determine.
A
I
know
one
thing
we
could
do
is
we
can
re,
look
at
the
evaluation
and
recalculate
the
fee
that
way
to
confirm
that
the
sac
was
not
collected
on
that
building?
Permit
all
the
rest
of
the
fees
were.
The
reviewer
did
not
drop
that
sac
fee
in
so
the
permit
was
issued,
paid
and
issued
and
weren't
commenced.
Until
and
this
didn't
get
on
anybody's
radar
until
mcconnell
brought
it
to
our
attention.
B
Well,
I
would
encourage
to
do
that
that
further
inquiry-
you
know
in
case
something
got
lost
in
the
shuffle
of
different
data
sets,
because
the
gentleman
seems
to
have
articulated
a
pretty
thorough
understanding
from
his
perspective,
so
we
should
be
thorough
on
our
end
in
a
commensurate
way.
So
my
recommendation
is
to
certainly
proceed
between
now
and
in
the
council
meeting
to
to
have
that
engagement
in
that
inquiry.
B
Thank
you
any
well.
I
will,
since
no
one
else
is
here
for
the
public
hearing.
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
open
the
floor
to
committee
members.
If
anyone
wishes
to
make
comments.
B
I'm
not
seeing
anything
well
then,
I
will
move
this
item
as
submitted
noting
that
staff
will
get
further
clarification
on
the.
J
Situation
a
little
bit
late
to
get
into
the
meeting,
because
I
just
got
the
id
and
passed
call
and
stuff
I'm
calling
for
2632
grand
street
northeast
minneapolis.
I
hope
I'm
not
too
late
for
the
meeting.
Sorry
about
that.
B
Is
this
referring
to
item
one
sack
charges.
B
Oh
okay:
well,
we
will
wait
till
that
part
of
the
agenda
is
before
us.
G
F
This
is
just
that
that
the
person
on
the
planning
commission-
I
think
they
demonstrated
that
I
think
it
is
not
to
send
the
money
on
to
the
council,
but
I
don't
contest
that
I'm
pretty
distinguished
by
the
builder
the
building
permits
this
part
of
their
contract
and
the
fact
he
was
paid
by
me.
So
there's
two
different
payers
right
and
so
even
this
shouldn't.
F
B
F
B
Good
information,
I
would,
I
would
say,
continue
to
work
with
staff.
They've
been
directed
to
continue
to
dig
into
the
information
and
data
to
get
a
final
clarity
on
this
matter
so
continue
to
engage
with
staff.
That's
my
recommendation.
B
So
this
this
public
hearing
for
item.
One
is
closed.
I
didn't
see
any
indication
for
conversation.
I
remove
the
item
before
us,
noting
that
staff
will
work
with
the
gentleman
who
presented
clear
call
of
the
role
please.
K
E
E
The
pueblo
course
completed
its
annual
inspection
and
repair
of
sidewalks
in
2019
property
owners
had
the
option
of
contracting
for
the
repair
themselves
or
allowing
the
city
to
city
to
complete
the
work
and
be
billed
or
assessed
for
the
work
for
those
choosing
the
latter.
This
action
is
to
proceed
with
the
process
for
collecting
those
assessments.
E
All
property
owners
receive
a
bill
for
the
completed
work.
If
the
owner
did
not
pay
the
bill,
the
cost
of
the
work
will
be
listed
on
the
assessment
role
and
assessed
to
property
taxes
as
a
special
assessment
on
january
1
of
next
year.
If
the
property
owner
chooses
to
contest
the
work
contest
the
worker
for
the
cost
of
the
work,
they
have
the
opportunity
to
appeal
at
an
administrative
hearing.
If
the
property
property
owner
is
satisfied
with
the
determination
of
the
administrative
hearing
officer,
no
further
action
is
necessary.
E
If
the
property
owner
chooses
to
contest
the
administrative
hearings
determination,
they
may
elect
to
appeal
at
a
hearing
before
the
tnpw
committee
of
the
city
council.
I
apologize
you're
you're,
it
may
say
policy
and,
and
might
say
pogo
there,
but
that's
a
mistake.
We
we
missed
in
all
of
our
clearing
here.
If
they
are
not
satisfied
with
the
decision
of
the
committee,
they
may
then
appeal
to
the
district
court.
E
This
appeal
must
be
made
within
30
days
after
the
adoption
of
the
assessment
role
by
the
city
council,
a
list
of
properties
and
the
charges
to
be
assessed
will
be
provided
at
the
time
of
the
public
hearing
as
properties
on
the
list
to
be
assessed
which
are
on
file
with
the
city
engineer.
Special
assessment
office
had
sidewalk
repair
and
construction
work
done
during
2019
by
the
city's
contractor.
E
The
amount
to
be
assessed
as
special
assessment
is
the
principle
as
an
assessment
principle
is
the
cost
of
the
work
plus
the
sidewalk
overhead
charge.
The
sidewalk
overhead
charge
is
10
of
the
cost
of
the
work
with
a
cap
of
50.
The
total
principal
amount
of
the
proposed
assessments,
unlisted
properties,
to
be
assessed.
Less
prepayments,
received
in
adjustments
by
the
hearing
officer
is
429
9114.58.
B
You
for
the
presentation:
are
there
any
questions
per
the
staff
presentation,
I'm
not
seeing
any.
I
will
now
open
the
public
hearing
and
I
don't
have
any
indication
of
anyone
registered.
Has
anyone
subsequently
indicated
a
desire
to
be
in.
B
B
Not
seen
or
hearing
any,
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
move
this
item.
Is
there
any
discussion
from
committee
members?
If
not,
I
would
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
role.
B
That
concludes
that
item.
We
can
now
go
to
our
final
public
hearing
and
again
request
staff
to
get
a
report.
E
Again,
thank
you,
director,
hutchison
and
chair
reich.
Again.
We
are
here
for
the
public
hearing
for
snow
and
ice
removal
from
public
sidewalks
and
their
assessments
each
winter
season.
Public
works
enforces
the
city
sidewalk
shoveling
ordinance
for
properties,
in
violation
of
this
ordinance.
Public
works
sends
a
notice
to
the
property
owner
and
if
the
property
or
owner
remains
in
violation,
then
public
works
hires,
a
private
contractor
to
remove
the
snow
and
ice
on
the
sidewalk
in
front
of
the
property.
E
All
property
owners
receive
a
bill
for
the
completed
work.
If
the
owner
does
not
pay
the
bill,
the
cost
of
the
work
will
be
listed
on
the
assessment
role
and
assessed
to
the
property
taxes
as
a
special
assessment
on
january
1
of
the
next
year.
If
the
property
owner
wishes
to
contest
the
cost
of
the
work,
they
have
the
opportunity
to
appeal
an
administrative
hearing.
E
E
The
amount
to
be
assessed
as
special
assessments
principle
is
the
cost
of
the
removal
work.
The
total
principal
amount
and
proposed
assessments
on
the
list
of
properties
to
be
assessed
is
325,
995
dollars.
The
assessments
we
collected
in
their
entirety
on
the
2021
real
estate,
real
estate,
tax
statements
with
interest.
E
If
you'll
indulge
me
a
little
bit,
I'd
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
this,
because
this
this
one
is
often
interesting.
Minneapolis
code
of
ordinance
445
defines
the
responsibilities
for
maintaining
the
sidewalks
in
the
winter
season.
It
stays
the
the
budding
property
owners
are
responsible,
single
family
and
most
of
you
know
this
single
family
homes
and
duplexes
must
be
cleared.
24
24
hours
after
the
end
of
the
snowfall.
E
E
Once
the
weather
helps,
the
criteria
is
on
the
ordnance,
is
full
width
and
down
to
the
bare
pavement
ordinance
allows
it
if
the
work
isn't
done,
the
city
can
clear
the
sidewalk
and
bill
the
property
owner
over
the
last
decade.
Cyborg
inspection
office
in
public
works
has
taken
steps
to
reduce
the
time
that
it
takes
to
get
unshoveled
sidewalks
cleared
steps
included,
taking
out
some
of
the
inspection
steps,
including
a
second
inspection.
Things
like
that
to
bring
the
time
frame
down.
E
Eliminating
the
warning
letter
now
called
the
order
to
correct
a
letter
to
repeat
offenders
in
a
season.
If
we
have
a
repeat
offender,
we
go
right
to
eyes
on
inspection
and
then
a
work
order,
adding
staff
resources
to
perform
more
inspections
and
hiring
contractors
to
clear
the
walk.
The
walks
there's
been
continued
interest
from
the
council
to
further
speed
up
the
process
and
be
even
more
aggressive.
E
Two
years
ago,
we
introduced
the
concept
of
proactive
inspections
that
is
rather
than
relying
on
complaints.
Only
reactive
inspections,
teams
of
inspectors
will
go
after
each
one
inch,
snowfall
and
proactively
inspect
random
areas
across
the
city
and
insert
them
into
the
enforcement
process.
The
introduction
of
that
initiative
included
enhanced
outreach
with
the
media,
as
well
as
the
director
of
public
works,
sending
out
a
letter
to
some
130
000
properties
at
the
beginning
of
the
season
to
remind
them
of
their
winter
responsibilities.
E
We
ended
up
actually
holding
72
virtual
hearings
over
a
period
of
six
days
of
those
32
people
have
informed
public
works
that
they
intend
to
appeal
to
the
city
council.
Today,
I
don't
believe
we
have
that
many
on
the
list
today,
but
many
of
them
have
come
here
during
the
administrative
hearings.
There
were
several
common
lines
of
reasoning
in
for
contesting
the
charges,
complaints
about
the
letter
itself.
I
never
got
my
letter.
I
got
it
late.
It
went
to
the
wrong
address.
I
live
someplace
else.
E
E
E
E
We
hear
every
fairly
often
I
shovel
the
sun,
the
sidewalk,
not
the
contractor,
very
often
during
extended
cold
snaps.
The
contractor
needs
to
make
two
trips
first
to
scrape
what
they
can
and
apply
de-icer
and
then
they'll
return,
sometimes
the
next
day
to
complete
the
job.
Sometimes
the
property
owner
will
do
it.
Do
some
work
in
between
sometimes.
E
Sometimes
it
still
needs
to
be
cleaned
up,
but
the
contractor
still
did
the
work.
Hence
the
bill
note
that
last
year,
in
response
to
similar
complaints,
in
addition
to
the
before
and
after
photos
that
we
have
the
contractor
do
to
verify
our
billing,
we
now
ask
the
contractor
to
take
a
photo
of
themselves
doing
the
work
that
has
been
successful
in
responding
to
these
kinds
of
complaints.
E
Another
concern
we
hear
is
the
charge
of
239
is
excessive.
I
could
have
gotten
it
done
for
much
less.
Our
prices
are
based
on
competitive
bids.
Some
people
say
that
they
have
called
3-1-1
to
get
a
cost
for
a
cost
comparison.
They
were
referred
to
the
contractors
that
have
made
themselves
available
to
shovel
for
a
fee.
E
These
costs
are
for
immediate
snow
clearing
before
it
is
compacted
for
days
and
bonded
to
the
pavements.
Our
contractors
are
coming
several
days
later.
Conditions
are
quite
different
and
they
have
it's
a
much
harder
effort
to
get
the
snow
and
ice
off.
Hence
the
difference
between
those
two
costs
we
hear
I
am
physically
unable
to
shuffle
my
sidewalk.
E
We
understand
that
311
has
a
growing
list
of
resources
where
people
can
request
help
for
a
fee
and
we've
added
to
that
this
past
year,
another
thing
city
or
county
plows
push
snow
on
back
onto
my
sidewalk.
Well,
if
that
happens,
they
are
welcome
to
call
3-1-1
and
report
it
if
either
entity
feels
either
the
county
or
the
city
feel
we
did
something
extraordinary.
We
actually
did
push
it
on
there
and
create
a
problem.
E
We
may
help
clean
it
up,
but
in
some
cases
like
when
the
sidewalk
is
adjacent
to
the
curb
snow
storage
must
be
shared
between
the
street
plows
and
the
sidewalk
as
long
as
the
property
owner
keeps
enough
cleared
for
a
wheelchair
inspectors
and
cleared
down
inspectors
would
not
kick
them,
and
we
hear
I
cleared
it
well
enough.
I
put
down
sand.
It
was
a
good
enough
job.
E
What
is
good
enough
is
often
in
the
eye
of
the
beholder
we
strive
to
be
as
consistent
as
possible,
but
it
is
impossible
to
be
perfect
every
time,
but
we
will
consider
it
if
something
seems
obviously
amiss
when
looking
at
the
photos,
but
we
do
and
we
believe
that
the
council
wants
us
to
go
by
the
ordinance
which
says
full
width
down
to
a
bigger
pavement,
and
so
that's
basically
what
we
are
going
with.
E
That
completes
my
presentation,
we're
able
to
stand
for
questions
if
needed,
and
there
are
staff
available
to
answer
questions
as
well.
B
Not
seeing
any
at
this
time,
I
will
then
open
the
public
hearing.
We
do
have
a
list
that
I
will
go
through
and
then
if
people
have
subsequently
joined
us,
we
will
get
to
you
as
well.
In
turn,
I
will
start
with
kedar
kershager
I
may
have
pronounced
that
incorrectly,
but
you
may
make
your
comments.
B
B
M
M
As
you
mentioned
before
some
of
the
excuses,
maybe
you
called
I
don't
remember
what
was
the
word
you
used
or
what
you
hear
from
other
people?
Obviously
there
are
only
certain
number
of
things
that
people
can
call
about
and
whichever
it
may
be,
they
will
fall
into
this
category.
So
I
had
submitted
my
photos
that
we
had
done
the
work.
M
It
actually
even
showed
that
the
neighboring
properties,
which
were
further
south
of
my
property,
still
had
some
white
snow
or
slush
on
it,
whereas
mine
did
not
show
that
my
main
complaint
is
that
when
we
do
the
snow
one
time
that
the
city
comes
a
couple
days
a
couple
of
times
later
on
many
a
times
late
in
the
night
some
other
day
and
then
when
they
clear
the
street,
it
does
push
more
snow
back
onto
our
sidewalk
as
well.
So
beyond.
You
know
the
photos
that
I
submitted
that
the
work
that
we
did.
B
Very
good:
well,
I
I
will
go
through
the
the
queue
hello,
oh
good
dog
and
I
will
have
staff
respond
to
specific
questions
collectively,
just
for
efficiency
of
the
meeting.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
and
we'll
note
that
and
respond
at
the
end.
B
Oh
very
good
point
yes,
mr
kadar
did
mr
kadar
give
his
address.
I
couldn't
recall.
B
Oh,
thank
you
so
moving
down
the
line,
bridget
consummus,
if
you
could
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
make
your
comments.
B
B
K
2519
and
2523
lindale
avenue
south
we
had
sent
in
some
photos
to
the
console
comment
at
the
applesamen.gov
and
I'm
wondering
if
those
are
viewable
or
not.
B
I
I
don't
have
those
capacities,
but
but
I'm
sure
the
staff
has
them
in
their
file.
K
M
B
K
Okay,
so
basically
we
we
run
100
units
in
hennepin
county
have
been
for
over
20
years.
K
K
What
happens
is
a
lot
of
times,
which
is
probably
common
at
other
properties
other
than
just
this
one
is.
We
are
on
a
hill,
it's
a
berm
and
we
get
into
weather
patterns
that
are
extremely
difficult.
For
example,
the
few
days
leading
up
to
this
photograph.
We
had
temperatures
daytime
highs,
starting
on
january
22nd,
that
were
36
degrees,
34
degrees,
32
degrees,
33
degrees,
which
obviously
causes
melt
and
then
re-freeze
at
night.
K
So
we
do
as
best
we
can
to
put
a
lot
of
salt
out
there,
and
then
we
start
getting
complaints
that
there's
too
much
salt
on
our
sidewalks
and
people
that
use
the
sidewalks.
We
have
our
name
and
signs
all
over
our
building,
so
people
can
contact
us
and
they
do
and
say
hey.
This
is
bad
for
the
environment.
There's
too
much
salt.
K
You
know
it's
not
good,
and
so
we're
kind
of
in
the
balancing
act
of
trying
to
keep
a
good
path
clear,
which
arguably
we
have
done
and
not
over
salting
and
overstanding.
But,
like
I
say
I
mean
this
this.
This
is
something
we
pay
for.
This
is
something
we
check
on.
You
know
we're
not
just
saying
someone
else
takes
care
of
it.
We
are
holding
the
bag
on
this
and
we
take
it
very
seriously.
K
It's
really
there's
got
to
be
a
little
bit
of
an
exception.
I
know
that
there
was
talk
about
you
know
things
being
subjective
here,
but
we
are
not
problem
properties.
We
take
care
of
ourselves.
We
take
care
of
our
people.
All
of
our
housing
in
minneapolis
is
affordable
and
charges
like
this
make
it
very
difficult
to
keep
it.
That
way.
B
Very
good
points-
and
we
do
have
the
photographs
are-
are
up
and
visible.
So
thank
you
that
again
just
to
get
through
the
list.
I
will
aggregate
the
comments
and
response
in
order.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
thank
you
for
the
visual
presentation
and
narrative
moving
down
the
line.
Just
real
check-in
is
bridget
available.
Now,
okay,
if
not
I'll,
just
go
down
to
tunisia
robinson,
you
can
please
address
the
committee.
D
G
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
tanisha
robinson.
I
live
at
2505
dupont,
avenue
north
I've
currently
owned
this
property
for
the
past
four
years
last
year
was
the
first
year
that
I've
ever
received
notice
of
inadequate
snow
removal.
I
submitted
excuse
me,
as
submitted
in
my
field
I
received
notice
on
or
around
december
11th.
The
sidewalk
was
shoveled
and
salted,
as
shown
in
the
pictures
that
I
submitted.
However,
as
you
stated
for
your
subjective
review,
the
snow
is
required
to
be
removed
down
to
the
pavement.
G
I
really
do
not
agree
with
the
fee
that
I'm
being
charged
and
arguably
my
sidewalk
was
shoveled
and
treated,
and
you
have
the
photos
to
review
so
again.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
I
hope
that
you
take
this
into
consideration.
And,
lastly,
I
would
like
to
recommend
that
you
guys
reevaluate
your
assessment.
I
know
you
mentioned
prior
to
that
it
is
subjective
it,
it
just
doesn't
measure
up
and
it
doesn't
make
sense.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
for
those
comments.
Moving
down,
we
have
agnes
chick
fufa.
B
Hearing
that
clerk
are
there
other
people
who
have
registered
or
do
we
just.
B
C
N
N
So
thank
you
for
allowing
me
the
opportunity
again
to
to
appeal
on
this
matter.
You
know
I
I
really
don't
have
a
lot
to
say
other
than
the
fact
that
if
you
look
at
the
photos,
you
will
see
evidence
of
salt
and
sand
that
are
put
down.
We
we
do
that
regularly.
N
We
have
a
corner
lot,
very,
very
heavily
traveled
by
foot
we
have
a
retaining
wall,
that's
about
four
and
a
half
feet
high
that
faces
north
and
so
as
the
as
the
sun
moves
on
a
daily
basis.
When
there's
a
lot
of
foot
traffic
out
in
front
of
our
property
and
along
the
time
it
gets
packed
down
very
rapidly.
N
For
that
reason,
we
do
keep
sand
and
salt
in
buckets
in
our
garage
that
we
appreciate
that
the
city
provides,
because
we
are
always
utilizing
that,
but
there
is
evidence
of
that
sand
and
salt
being
put
down
in
the
photographs,
and
I
do
feel
that
for
that
reason,
there's
been,
you
know
more
than
a
reasonable
effort
on
our
part
to
do
our
part
to
avoid
any
sort
of
slip
hazard
around
the
property-
and
you
know
that
is
that's
really.
N
Our
primary
concern,
the
other
one,
was
the
fact
that
we
didn't
receive
the
letter.
I
understand
that
you,
you
mentioned
right
away,
that
that
the
letter
is
a
courtesy
but
all
along.
I
know
that
the
letter
has
been
part
of
something
that's
been
mentioned,
that
that
you
know
has
been
sent
out
for
whatever
reason
we
didn't
receive
one
had
we
received
one.
N
I
think
that
it
would
have
certainly
put
us
more
on
alert
that
there
was
a
potential
issue
and
were
the
type
of
people
that
I'm
the
kind
of
guy
that
when
I
fire
up
my
snow
blower,
I
go
around
the
corner
and
I'll
go
down.
You
know
three
four
properties
to
help
people
out,
so
we
do
take
our
snow
removal
very
seriously.
N
We
were
surprised
and
really
kind
of
caught
off
guard
by
a
239
assessment,
as
I
think
one
of
the
other
callers
said.
I
do
think
that
I
work
in
an
industry
that
that
we
utilize
a
lot
of
landscaping
experts
to
clear
our
properties,
and
I
do
feel
that
the
charge
is
excessive.
That's
a
that's
a
side
note
and
hopefully
something
that
may
be
taking
consideration
for
future
use.
N
B
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
your
testimony
again.
We
will
address
things
in
aggregate
at
the
end,
any
other
potential
phone
numbers.
P
Okay,
you
had
called
me
earlier
and
my
name
and
I
didn't
know
how
to
unblock
or
unmute,
but
anyway,
I'm
mila,
bacalba,
5121
44th
avenue
south
did.
Did
you
get
what
I
sent
in
then?
P
Okay,
here's
here's!
My
point,
number
one
they're
saying
that
the
statute
doesn't
say
that
they're
not
supposed
to
give
any
warning
letter
anyway.
My
point
is
you
know
it?
P
So
I
think
it
would
be
a
nice
courtesy
if
they
see
something
that's
as
cute
to
to
just
knock
on
the
door
or
or
put
a
little
note
on
the
door.
As
a
sign
of
you
know,
consumer
concern,
but
anyway
the
other
thing
is
they're,
saying
that
it's
subjective.
The
way
they
inspect
the
the
sidewalk
well,
I
have
to.
P
Sometimes
you
know
the
snow
would
be
running
off
and-
and
so
I
just
said
it
would
be
a
nice
courtesy
to
people
to
just
rebind
them
first
before
all
of
a
sudden
sending
a
contractor
to
to
start
doing
this
work
and
and
then
charging
like
they
said,
sky-high
239
dollars
for
a
very
small
strip
of
space.
P
The
other
thing
is,
you
know
they
said
that
you
don't
have
to
shovel
the
sidewalk
when
there's
less
than
an
inch
of
snow.
Well,
you
know
at
times
when,
when
the
snow
melts,
because
the
next
day,
like
some
people
have
mentioned
already-
you
know
the
the
temperature
fluctuates
a
lot
during
this
change
of
season
time.
P
So
what
I
did
is
I
I
went
to
the
service
through
the
weather
bureau
website
and
I
also
called
them
how
I
can
download
the
temperature
changes
and
you
will
see
that
on
the
day
that
they
supposedly
shoveled
my
my
you
know
my
sidewalk.
P
It
was
41
degrees
with
the
temperature,
41
42
degrees,
so
it's
all
mushy
watery
stuff
that
was
draining
from
the
slight
slope
I
have
in
the
front,
especially
after
you
know,
the
buildup
comes
from
when
my
neighbor
cut
down
a
huge
old
maple
tree
that
was
sucking
up
water
before
so
anyway.
P
So
my
my
point
is:
let's
not
be
punitive,
and-
and
always
you
know
try
to
to-
I
guess-
get
people
to
to
have
to
complain
when
we
can
just
be
more
consumer-friendly
in
the
way
we
approach
these
policies
on
on
how
things
can
be
rectified.
I
know
we
want
to
have
a
nice
environment,
but
I
think
it's
a
little
bit
overdone
and
and
this
year
or
last
year
I
guess
they
said
that
they
started
having
a
reactive
reactive
way
of
looking
at
the
things.
P
You
know
why
we
have
to
be
so
punitive
in
the
way
we
we
look
at
the
things
I
can
see.
If
somebody
completely
really
ignores
the
the
you
know
the
regulation,
but
I
think
what
from
what
I'm
hearing
a
lot
of
these
people
really
are
trying
their
best
and-
and
so
you
know,
the
subjectiveness
of
clearing
down
to
the
payment.
P
The
whole
width
of
the
sidewalk
well
we're
dealing
with
mother
nature,
so
we
can't
always
be
you
know
a
little
bit
too
perfect
and,
and
the
other
thing
too
is
the
gentlemen
who
gave
the
speech
for
the
city
said
that
sometimes
you
know
you
can
wait
for
softening
of
the
salt
and
sand
and
they
might
give
you
a
little
break
on
that.
Well,
you
know
when,
when
you
have,
when
you
have
something
that
is
so
hard
and
you
wait
and
the
temperature
drops,
I
mean
it
goes
sky
high.
P
You
know,
of
course
you
it
melts,
and
so
you
can
easily
then
clear
it
up
and
in
my
case
the
picture
they
even
showed
a
cat.
You
know
a
c-a-t,
a
tractor
right
by
the
sidewalk.
Well,
my
goodness,
that
was
just
a
prop
an
exaggerated
prop,
but
anyway,
so
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
that
let's
not
be
so
punitive
in
the
way
we
approach
these
things.
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
elderly
people
now.
P
B
Well,
I
think
I
think
these
are
a
good
collection
of
points
and
insights
to
the
broader
policy
and
and
as
suggested,
we
have
been
over
the
years
taking
different
approaches,
and
so
your
comments
speak
to
now
to
your
specific
situation,
but
also
food
for
thought.
For
the
broader
policies
as
well
clerk.
Is
there
anyone
else
trying
to
communicate
with
us
that
we
see.
O
B
B
O
O
B
O
He
shared
with
me
that
he
did
clean
up
that
morning,
but
unfortunately
he
did
not
take
pictures,
since
this
is
the
first
time
being
fined.
He
now
knows
just
hearing
from
the
other
speakers
that
for
future
reference
he
will
be
sure
to
document
it,
and
he
asked
me
to
ask
what
would
the
next
steps
be
in
terms
of
what
happens
after
voicing
his
concerns
and
what
are
the
options
for
him
to
remove
the
spine.
O
O
B
Well,
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
the
translation
help
clerk.
Is
there
anyone
else
wishing
to
get
in
queue
here.
B
C
C
C
B
B
B
B
To
do
so
I'll
close
the
public
hearing,
mr
kennedy,
do
you
have
any
sort
of
closing
comments.
E
E
We
have
considered
that
that
it
hasn't
come
around
yet,
but
we're
not
positive
that
that
would
give
us
the
the
response
we
would
need
to
and
it
would
slow
things
down
if,
if
there
was
no
no
action
taken,
then
we're
way
behind
the
eight
ball
and
as
far
as
I'm
getting
contractors
out
there
to
get
the
work
done
if
it
doesn't
work,
but
it's
something
we
can
continue
to
look
at.
I
heard
a
couple
people
talk
about
inconsistency.
E
E
Our
proactive
inspections
account
for
about
a
third
of
the
total
number
of
inspections
that
we're
doing.
But
again,
that
is
a
randomized
sample,
we're
not
inspecting
the
entire
city
and
we're
doing
the
best.
We
can
given
the
resources,
but
we're
not
inspecting
every
sidewalk.
There's
no
question
about
that,
and
sometimes
they
may
not
know
that
that
that
their
neighbor
did
get
a
notice
or
when
sometimes
when
our
inspectors
are
out,
they'll
look
up
down
the
sidewalks
and
they
see
something
they
may
report
it
to.
E
But
then
it's
it's
later
in
the
queue
in
the
process,
so
it
make
people
may
not
realize
that
that's
happening.
Somebody
asked
what's
next,
I
think
you
know
they
have
by
appearing
here.
They
have
preserved
their
right
to
go
to
district
court
and
they
can
follow
up
there
if
they're
not
happy
with
the
end
results
that
the
committee
and
council
proposes
here
the
biggest
thing
again
here
is
again
this
idea
of
what's
good
enough
and
when
I
say
that
this
is
subjective,
it
is
and
and
what
is
what
is
good
enough?
E
The
committee
members
can
look
at
these
photos,
many
of
them.
Where
we're
you
know
we're
we're
going
on
a
complaint
basis.
Somebody
thought
it
wasn't
good
enough
we're
out
there
and
it
doesn't
match
with
the
the
letter
of
the
ordinance
bare
pavement,
full
width.
We
understand.
E
We
fully
understand
that
some
of
the
some
of
the
time
in
the
winter
it
is
you
get
bulletproof,
snow
and
ice
on
your
sidewalks,
it's
very
difficult
to
get
it
up,
but
the
committee
can
look
at
these
photos
and
help
us
understand
what's
good
enough,
so
that
in
the
future,
we're
trying
to
follow
your
guidance
and
tell
us
what
you,
if
you
think
some
of
these
are
good
enough,
that
they
should
be
changed.
The
hearing
officer
and
all
of
these
cases
decided
to
levy
in
full,
and
so
it
got
through
that
process.
E
Other
than
that,
I
think
myla
said
something
about.
I
mentioned
less.
She
said
we
don't
have
to
do
it
if
it's
less
than
an
inch.
If
I,
if
I
misled
people
there,
I
apologize.
No,
what
I
said
was
we
inspect.
We
go
out
and
proactively
inspect.
First
knows
of
an
inch
or
more
that's
just
kind
of
the
threshold
that
we
picked
rather
than
sending
them
out
every
time,
there's
a
trace
or
a
tenth
of
an
inch
or
something
like
that.
That's
just
the
time.
E
E
B
I
think
some
broader,
broader
issues
certainly
are
food
for
thought,
for
our
continuing
iteration
of
the
policy,
certainly
something
that
I
know
that
we're
aware
of
and
and
keen
to
address
is
you
know
how
our
contractors
use
alienation.
B
You
want
to
do
that
in
an
effective
way,
but
also
in
a
environmentally
appropriate
way
as
well,
and
so
I
think
that
was
also
a
point
that
was
raised,
but
in
terms
of
the
general
presentation
of
what
our
workers
did
per
our
policy,
I
will
open
it
up
to
committee
members
if
they
have
any
questions
or
comments.
B
Gordon,
I
believe
you
indicated.
D
I
did
it
and
I
have
to
say
it's:
it's
really
difficult
to
review
the
photos
and
compare
them,
because
I
don't
have
hard
copies
in
front
of
me,
so
this
is
a
little
bit
more
of
a
challenging
way
of
doing
it
than
we've
done
it
in
the
past.
That's
for
sure.
D
I
also
wanted
to
ask
mr
kennedy
if
any
of
these
questionable
any
of
these
addresses
from
the
public
hearing
been
challenged
are
from
any
of
our
proactive
enforcement
efforts,
because
you
said
they
were
all
complaint
based
and
I
just
wanted
to
clarify,
because
I
know
we
were
we
kind
of
tried
something
different
this
winter
and
we
tried
to
be
more
proactive
and
do
better
with
enforcement,
hoping
that
that
would
get
us
better
results
were
all
of
these
from
complaints
or
were
some
of
them
also
from
our
proactive
enforcement.
E
Chair
right,
council,
member
gordon,
yes,
there
was
a
mix
here
boy.
I
didn't
keep
track
as
we
went
along.
But
if,
if
you
review
the
files
we
can
make
all
these
files
available
to
you,
so
you
can
pull
them
up,
see
them
on
your
screen.
Also,
it
gives
a
little
chronology
at
the
at
the
beginning
of
each
set
of
photos
and
it
will
describe
whether
or
not
it
was
from
a
proact
and
it
was
initiated
from
a
proactive
or
a
read
active
complaint.
D
I
don't
feel
like
I
have
the
can
make
the
judgment
call
in
terms
of
pulling
any
of
these
out
or
I
guess
I
could
look
at
him
more
online,
and
maybe
I
should
have
beforehand.
I
wasn't
expecting
it
to
go
quite
so
deeply
into
this.
I
have
to
believe
that
the
when
it
went
through
the
hearing
and
other
people
looked
at
it
and
staff
looked
at
it
and
an
administrator
did
that
they
were
trying
to
make
a
good
and
reasonable
assessment.
D
But
I
also
hear
some
legitimate
concerns
from
some
of
the
property
owners,
thinking
that
they
had
done
a
good
enough
job
and
it
wasn't
that
much
different
than
what
the
contractor
did
and
so
they're
concerned
about.
Why
they're
having
to
pay
so
much-
and
it
just
makes
me
think-
and
my
last
point
is
I
wish
we
could
figure
out
a
better
way
to
do
some
of
this.
D
So
it
wasn't
spending
all
of
our
time
and
money
and
effort
to
do
these
enforcements
and
we
could
actually
spend
some
of
that
on
maybe
proactively
assisting
and
keeping
the
sidewalks
clean
and
I'd
still
be
interested
in
pursuing
that.
Even
if
it's
in
some
pilots
on
some
commercial
corridors
or
something
as
you
all
know,
you
probably
call
it
say
that
I've
said
that
in
the
past,
but
I'm
going
to
let
somebody
else
maybe
make
this
motion.
Sorry,
mr
chair.
B
B
The
public
hearings
closer,
I
think,
if
you
would
address
the
staff
people
before
we
make
our
final
final
decision
in
the
council
they're
available.
Hopefully,
there's
some
contact
information
for
you.
They
would
probably
be
better
able
to
address
anything
specific
at
this
point.
M
Right,
it
wasn't
anything
specific
that
I'm
asking
for,
but
I'm
just
giving
you
overall
suggestion
recommendation
in
today's
world
everybody
has
a
cell
phone
instead
of
sending
a
letter
that
reaches
us
10
days
later,
which
is
way
too
late.
Could
a
simple
text
message
be
sent,
saying:
hey,
we
have
a
complaint
and
most
property
owners
I
can
guarantee
would
comply
after
they
get
a
test
like
that.
M
If
there
was
an
issue
to
at
least
go
and
check
it
out,
which
saves
times
the
money
for
everybody,
rather
than
wasting
taxpayers
money
with
district
court
and
this
committee
meeting
and
the
review
board
before
that
and
many
other
things
before
that
it
just
doesn't
make
sense.
You
know
why
send
a
letter.
Why
not
just
do
a
text
text
message.
B
I
think
that's
a
really
good
suggestion.
I
think
staff
heard
that
and
we
do
have
communications
professionals,
so
it
sounds
like
a
modernization
of
our
approach.
So
thanks
for
the
tip
any
other
staff
comments,
if
not
I'll
move
the
item
before
us
any
further
conversation,
if
not
clerk,
please
call
the
roll.
D
F
C
F
G
B
Well,
that
concludes
our
public
hearings.
For
today,
we
can
now
go
down
to
the
bottom
of
the
agenda
for
discussion
as
listed,
and
I
will
yield
the
floor
to
director
hutchinson.
H
H
Before
we
proceed,
I
would
like
to
recognize
and
make
sure
they
are
on
the
line,
recognize
council
members,
cono
and
jenkins,
whose
ward
we
are
actually
going
to
be
discussing,
who,
I
believe,
have
joined
us
today.
Thank
you.
I
do
have
a
presentation.
I
don't
know
where
it
is
and
how
it
shows
up
there.
It
is
very
good.
H
I
am
joined
today
by
transportation,
planner
alexander
cato,
who
has
been
working
on
this
project
since
may
he'll
help
me
present.
Today's
presentation
is,
is
really
a
follow-up
from
the
more
comprehensive
update
that
several
directors
and
departments
gave
at.
H
H
H
And
the
importance
of
being
sure
that
we
respond
to
those
needs,
as
we
think
about
our
streets.
Today's
presentation
is
a
little
bit
different,
we're
here
at
the
transportation
and
public
works
committee.
We
are
very
operationally
focused
as
a
department,
as
are
you
as
a
committee,
and
today's
update
will
be
more
about
interim
design
options
for
38th
and
chicago.
H
I
hear
I
see
I'm
cutting
out
I'll,
try
and
speak
up
a
little
bit
just
a
couple
things
we.
We
are
going
to
keep
this
brief,
we're
going
to
talk
about
we're
going
to
review
some
long-term
commitments.
I
want
to
talk
about
winter
challenges,
access
challenges
first
and
how
it's
exacerbated
by
winter,
we're
going
to
review
our
interim
design
principles,
we're
going
to
look
at
some
interim
design
options
and
then
we're
going
to
talk
about
engagement
and
communications.
H
H
H
Thank
you
so
much
to
the
council
members
who
have
approved
the
renaming
of
chicago
avenue
that
is
now
adopted
and
we
can
celebrate
the
renaming
of
the
intersection
and
public
works
is
working
to
accelerate
funding,
to
provide
more
resources
to
the
reconstruction
of
the
intersection,
making
it
what
the
community
envisions
it
and
and
wants
it
to
be,
and
also
celebrating
the
arrival
of
what
should
be-
and
we
hope
to
be-
is
the
region's
next
bus,
rapid
transit
line,
the
d-line.
H
So
with
that
as
a
backdrop,
I
want
to
just
turn
a
little
bit
to
more
focused
and
specific
conversation
around
the
streets.
As
we
often
talk
about
streets
at
transportation
and
public
works
committee.
H
In
our
last
meeting
at
pogo,
I
talked
a
little
bit
about
some
access
issues
and
our
desire
to
improve
access
and
to
reconnect
neighborhoods
and
to
ensure
that
we
are
able
to
provide
emergency
services.
Ada
access,
here's
just
one
image
of
what
it
looks
like
this
is
what
it
looked
like
a
couple
of
weeks
ago.
You
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
please.
H
However,
it
did
require
community
members
to
move
some
of
the
barricades
to
allow
that
truck
in
that's
just
a
recap
of
some
things
that
we
presented
in
pogo,
and
I
give
you
that
recap,
as
a
as
a
precursor
to
the
next
slide
winter,
in
and
of
itself,
isn't
the
the
biggest
and
only
challenge
winter
will
exacerbate
some
of
these
access
challenges
that
we
currently
feel,
and
I
I
believe
that
winter
conditions
will
not
only
exacerbate
the
access
issues
but
will
hinder
the
movement
of
people
in
their
own
neighborhoods
and
between
critical
neighborhoods.
H
H
That
does
respond
to
the
community's
needs
for
space
at
that
intersection,
but
also
ensures
that
we
can
do
our
jobs
through
winter
and
the
rest
of
this
presentation
will
really
focus
on
how
we'd
like
to
do
that.
H
Go
to
the
next
slide.
Once
again,
I
talked
about
these
design
principles
at
the
pogo
meeting.
These
hold
true
as
we're.
Looking
at
specific
design
options
to
improve
our
access,
we
want
to
provide
space
for
mourning
and
reflection,
and
for
community
uses
discussion
protest.
Even
streets
can
play
host
to
so
many
different
things.
H
We
want
to
increase
our
public
visibility
and
safety.
We
want
to
preserve
the
public
art
to
the
degree
that
we
can
and
we
believe
we
can
preserve
the
art
some
of
it
through
the
winter,
and
we
want
to
improve
business
resident,
residential
and
transit
access,
and
we
do
not
want
this
to
be
a
return
to
normal
any
more
than
the
community
does.
We
feel
a
responsibility
to
respond
to
community
needs
and
we
feel
a
great
sense
of
creativity
and
inspiration
and
how
we're
thinking
about
how
the
street
can
can
function
go
to
the
next.
H
I
want
to
provide
just
a
quick
reminder
of
two
interim
design
options
that
we
presented
at
pogo:
we're
not
going
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
the
on
those
because
we've
refined
and
developed
them
further,
and
that's
what
we'll
show
you
today
and
the
previous
design
options
were
focused
on
38th
street
today,
we're
going
to
show
you
some
more
creative
approaches
to
improving
the
access,
and
it
does
include
some
work
on
chicago
as
well.
M
Q
Thank
you,
chair
reich,
and
members
of
the
transportation
and
public
works
committee.
I'm
alexander
cato
a
transportation
planner
within
the
transportation
planning
and
programming
division
of
public
works,
I'm
here
today
as
the
project
manager
for
30th
and
chicago
interim
design.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present.
Q
As
director
hutchinson
stated,
the
pogo
presentation
on
august
20th
highlighted
several
design
options
that
public
works
developed
for
38th
street
I'll
briefly
review
these
as
a
refresher
and
also
illustrate,
and
also
use
those
to
illustrate
how
our
updated
design
options
integrate
those
original
concepts.
Q
However,
before
I
do
that,
I
just
want
to
touch
on
the
existing
conditions
at
the
intersection
of
38th
in
chicago
in
the
image
here,
you'll
see
the
four
legs
of
the
intersection
and
the
center
is
the
fifth
sculpture.
The
close-up
image
shows
a
photo
of
how
it
looked
earlier.
This
summer
still
looks
relatively
the
same
with
a
few
modifications.
Q
The
north
leg
has
a
barricade
at
columbus.
The
east
leg
has
a
barricade
at
elliott
and
38th.
The
south
lake
has
a
barrier
at
39th
and
to
the
west
there's
a
bear
at
columbus
and
38th.
There
are
two
sets
of
additional
barricades
to
the
north
and
west,
but
the
configuration
here
shows
the
existing
conditions,
which
have
been
in
place
upwards
of
100
days
next
slide.
E
E
Q
Q
In
this
option,
the
fifth
sculpture
would
remain
in
its
current
location
and
the
roadway
would
facilitate
two-way,
east-west
traffic,
and
you
can
see
that
in
the
zoomed
in
figure
to
the
right,
you
see,
a
westbound
vehicle
would
travel
west
when
it
approached
the
fifth
sculpture,
it
would
navigate
around
that
and
continue
west.
The
eastbound
movements
were
this
were
the
same.
The
north
and
south
legs
of
chicago,
and
this
design
were
closed.
The
benefits
of
this
model
is
it
preserves
that
gathering
space
line
chicago
does
restore
transit
service
for
route.
Q
O
G
Q
Q
As
similar
pros
and
cons
to
the
last
example,
the
main
difference
is
that
the
fist
sculpture
is
moved
north
from
its
current
location.
This
option,
as
the
last
one,
does
not
accommodate
winter
snow
removal
and
it
does
not
accommodate
the
metro
transit
route
five.
So
those
are
the
two
kind
of
big
shortcomings,
not
shortcomings,
but
the
two
pieces
that
the
38th
street
design
did
not
accommodate
next
slide.
Q
Please,
thank
you.
So
public
works
has
continued
to
develop
interim
design
options
that
are
in
line
with
the
principles
that
director
hutchinson
highlighted
earlier
in
this
presentation.
Interim
winter
design
option
one
is
called
chicago
avenue
converging.
One
ways
is
proposing
to
retain
the
fist
sculpture
in
its
current
location,
while
allowing
two-way,
east-west
traffic,
as
highlighted
in
the
previous
visual,
and
also
allowing
one-way
traffic
on
chicago
avenue.
So
the
way
this
would
work
out
for
the
north
leg
of
chicago
avenue,
there
would
be
one-way,
southbound
traffic.
Q
As
that
vehicle
approached
the
intersection
they
would
be
required
to
turn
right
onto
38th
street.
The
south
leg
of
chicago
would
have
one-way
northbound
traffic.
As
it
approached
the
intersection,
it
would
be
required
to
turn
right
onto
30th
street,
so
we're
calling
these
converging
one
ways.
The
north
and
south
legs
of
the
intersection
come
together,
and
then
the
vehicles
are
required
to
turn
to
the
right.
Q
East-West
movements
would
continue
as
the
as
they
were,
designed
the
benefits
of
of
this
configuration,
especially
with
the
converging
one
ways
we
occupy
less
roadway
with
on
chicago,
so
we're
preserving
more
space
for
public
gathering
for
a
lot
of
the
art-
that's
been
organically,
created
by
the
community,
but
still
providing
some
level
of
access
on
chicago.
Q
This
does
restore
route
23
to
38th
street
and
potentially
restores
route
5
to
the
intersection.
The
the
complexity
with
this
is
that
the
metro,
transit
buses
route
5
could
come
to
the
intersection
to
pick
up
and
drop
off
passengers,
but
after
that
they
would
have
to
detour
out
the
sculpture
on
the
38th
street.
So
metro
transit
is
still
doing
some
internal
analysis
to
confirm
if
this
detour
routing
is
really
viable
from
an
operation
standpoint,
so
we
have
that
as
a
tbd.
Q
Interim
winter
design
option
two
two-way
traffic
is
titled
two-way
traffic
on
30th
in
chicago,
and
this
is
proposed
to
relocate
the
fist
sculpture
to
the
northeast
corner
of
the
intersection.
Two-Way
traffic
would
be
allowed
in
all
four
directions:
north
south
east
and
west,
although
we
are
proposing
in
this
example
to
return
vehicles
to
the
intersection.
Q
This
option
is
still
grounded
in
in
many
of
those
interim
design
principles
that
director
director
hutchinson
alluded
to.
When
she
was
speaking
the
positives
of
this,
it
does
restore
the
five
to
the
intersection,
as
well
as
the
23.
It
improves
the
business
residential
access.
It
still
preserves
art
in
the
area.
If
you
look
in
the
figure
to
the
left,
you'll
see
it
and
it's
a
little
difficult
to
view
it's
a
little
blurry,
but
there's
orange
lines
around
that
northeast
corner
of
the
intersection
and
extending
east
along
38th
street.
Q
That's
in
that
area,
because
we
recognize
there's
still
a
very
strong
need
for
folks
from
the
community,
the
city
and
really
all
over
the
country
and
even
the
world
to
come
to
this
space,
and
we
want
to
still
allow
that
to
happen
and
and
preserve
that
that
capacity,
the
challenge
with
this
design
it
does
require
relocating
the
fist,
sculpture
to
potentially
the
northeast
corner
of
the
intersection
and
we'd
have
to
work
with
with
community
on
how
that
would
occur.
Q
So,
to
conclude,
these
are
the
design
options,
we're
looking
at
option.
One
would
be
maintaining
the
sculpture
in
the
center
of
the
intersection
option.
Two
would
be
moving
the
fist
sculpture
out
of
the
center
of
the
intersection,
and
these
are
the
options
that
we
will
be
asking
feedback
from
the
public
effective.
Today
we
will
be
engaging
with
the
public
to
really
fine-tune
these
design
options.
We
have
a
survey,
that's
online
on
our
website.
Q
Q
H
B
Thank
you
for
that
presentation.
Council.
President
bender,
I
see
you
have
your
name
in
the
chat
queue.
R
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
had
two
more
technical
questions.
The
first
is
are
all
of
the
barriers
that
are
up
as
indicated
on
the
map.
Are
those
all
city
provided
barriers,
or
could
you
talk
us
through
kind
of
what's
there
from
community
versus
the
city's
own
materials,
and
then
the
second
question
was:
if,
if
now
or
as
a
follow-up,
could
we
have
more
information
about
the
current
status
of
transit
operations?
R
So
could
you
describe
to
us
where
the
23
and
the
five
are
running
now,
what
the
detours
look
like
and
then,
if
you
have
information
about
the
service
impacts
of
that
again,
either
now
or
as
a
follow-up
would
be
helpful.
Thank
you
both.
H
H
Our
placement
of
the
barricades
is
done
to
you
know,
protect
pedestrians
in
the
space
and
also
to
leave
gaps
to
allow
for
access
emergency
access.
H
Community
members
have
placed
additional
barricades
that
are
not
reflected
on
our
map
and
are
very
often
closing
those
gaps.
H
The
second
question
transit
is
the
five
is
detoured
to
park
in
portland
the
23.
I
don't
I
don't
know
I
might
need
help
answering
this
one
alexander,
I'm
just
going
to
say
right
up
front.
It's
okay!
If
you
don't
have
the
answer,
we
can
get
back
to
the
council
president.
But
if
you
do
great,
I
thought.
H
Bloomington
and
council
president,
I
think
we'll
need
to
ask
a
few
more
questions
of
metro
transits
on
the
service
impacts,
and
we
can
get
back
to
you
with
that
information.
B
Oh
no
wait
a
minute,
I'm
looking
at
the
queue
wrong
did
either
the
ward
council
members
wish
to
make
inquiries
with
staff
or
comments.
L
Yeah,
sorry
about
that,
no
I
had
a
chance
to
meet
with
with
robin
on
this
before
and
we've
been
working
on
this
issue
for
months
now.
I
don't
have
any
questions
not
for
this
not
jermaine.
To
this
particular
conversation,
there's
other
conversations,
but
that's
not
what
this
committee
is
for.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
council
member
councilmember,.
D
D
I
see
head
nods
and
then
there'll
be
a
deeper
conversation
about
a
longer-term
solution
and
I'm
just
curious
if
everything
is
still
on
the
table.
As
we
look
at
that
longer
term
solution-
and
I
know
some
things
would
be
much
more
complicated
than
others,
including
a
pedestrian
plaza
of
some
kind,
but
I
just
want
to
know
we
have
yet
to
come
up
with
the
ultimate
long-term
solution
for
this
area.
We're
just
trying
to
survive
the
next
few
months.
H
Chair
right,
councilmember,
gordon
you,
that
is
a
correct
assessment.
We
need
to
make
some
design
adjustments.
I'm
gonna
call
them
adjustments
for
the
winter.
There
is
a
bigger
effort
that
we
will
be
undertaking
with
numerous
partners,
cped
chief
among
them
to
imagine
what
this
intersection
could
be.
It's
not
our
decision
to
make
alone
or
even
in
the
lead.
It
has
to
be
a
community
driven
process
and
we
look
forward
to
those
conversations
about
what
the
community
wants
and
needs,
and
there
is
nothing
that
is
off
the
table.
H
However,
it's
my
professional
opinion
strong
opinion
that
the
d-line
is
a
really
important
investment
for
this
community,
this
neighborhood
and
for
the
city.
So
I
think
you
can
expect
to
see
a
really
creative
planning
process
that
includes
numerous
options,
no
option
too
crazy
to
consider
and
is
likely
going
to
be,
transit,
focused.
R
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
I
know
this
committee
presentation
is
more
technical
in
nature
and
hasn't
included.
Like
a
lot
of
the
other
factors.
I
know
that
there
have
been
a
huge
number
of
public
meetings.
It
sounded
like
80
or
more
different
community
meetings
and
I'll
just
say
that
I
think
for
the
rest
of
us.
You
know
we
will
be
really
relying
on
on
the
council.
Members
who've
been
participating
in
those
meetings,
council-based
president
jenkins
and
councilmember
cano
again.
R
I
know
this
is
a
more
technical,
focused
kind
of
update
presentation,
but
as
we
move
forward
those
council
members
who
have
had
the
opportunity
to
be
there
in
community,
you
know
will
have
our
support
and-
and
I
think
we'll
look
to
to
their
help
in
understanding
what
those
80
meetings,
the
ones
that
they've
attended,
have
have
sounded
like
and
been
like.
Of
course,
the
different
various
staff
who've
been
participating
in
all
of
those
conversations,
and
then
I
think
it's.
R
B
Thank
you
for
that,
council,
president
bender
and-
and
I
I
concur
with
that
sentiment,
you
know
we
will
take
a
lot
of
our
cues
from
the
leadership
of
our
of
our
peers
in
that
area
and
and
total
respect
for
all
the
work
that
they've
been
engaged
in
to
date,
and
I
know
our
staff,
as
you
can
even
see
from
a
very
narrow,
a
slice
of
the
overall
conversation.
How
much
thought
has
gone
into
just
this
piece
of
wintertime
functionality.
B
S
Hi
I
I
do
apologize.
I
was
had
a
got
a
call
from
a
media
representative
and
so
was
dealing
with
that
and
had
you
guys
on
mute.
However,
I
do
appreciate
these
designs
moving
forward.
I
have
been
in
continual
communication
with
with
folks
at
the
site.
I
really
want
to
commend
public
works
staff
for
all
the
really
challenging
and
difficult
work
that
they've
been
doing
out
in
community.
S
You
know
this
is
kind
of
a
technical
issue,
as
the
council
president
just
mentioned.
However,
it
does
require
a
more
adaptive
and
or
humane
approach
to
how
how
we're
dealing
with
it.
I
I
I
think
these
designs
sort
of
contribute
to
that,
and
you
know
the
work.
S
The
ongoing
work
of
communicating
with
the
community
is
continuing
in
fact,
there's
a
virtual
session
that'll
be
happening
this
evening
and
you
know
we're
we're
gonna
keep
this
process
moving
forward,
but
we
do
have
to
get
these
these
these
roads
moving
for
the
winter
time,
so
that
we
can
make
sure
we're
serving
the
residents
of
this
community
to
the
fullest
extent
possible.
S
So,
thank
you
all
for
for
this,
and
thanks
to
the
public
works
staff
or
providing
these
different
scenarios
to
move
us
forward,
and
with
that
I
yield
my
time.
B
Thank
you,
council.
Vice
president
jenkins,
anyone
else
from
the
committee,
if
not,
we
will
receive
and
file
this
report.