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A
Which
seemed
to
take
into
consideration
a
lot
of
individual
items
around
public
safety,
things
like
speed
limits,
biker
safety,
domestic
violence
and
then
also
air
quality.
B
When
I
look
at
this
list,
I
mean
I'll
just
be
very
honest.
My
and
this
is
coming
from
my
profession.
I'm
an
occupational,
therapist
and
teach
occupational
therapy
have
worked
a
lot
in
the
mental
health
realm,
but
it's
very
frustrating
to
be
in
a
profession
that
is
limited
to
only
working
with
people
in
a
mental
health
capacity
in
under
the
medical
model,
under
like
acute
psychiatry,
where
we're
just
absorbed
into
the
cost
or
under
medicare.
B
When
the
rules
in
this
state
around,
who
can
be
a
qualified
mental
health
provider,
are
written
in
such
a
way
that
it
is
very
difficult
for
anybody
else
to
really
directly
provide
those
services
without
it
being
linked
to
something
else.
And
so,
when
I
think
of
youth
there's
a
tremendous
amount
of
youth
who
receive
ot
services
through
the
public
schools.
But
those
therapists
are
so
strapped.
B
They
can't
even
they
can't
even
begin
to
touch
mental
health,
stuff
right
and
yet
there's
therapists
in
the
community
who
would
love
to
be
doing
more
partnering
with
more
community
organizations,
and
I
have
capstone
students
actually
doing
this
through
my
my
main
job
as
a
professor
and
it,
and
we
also
have
this
capstone
student
who's
working
at
the
state
level
dhs
around
proposing
some
language
changes
to
expand
some
access
because
it
wouldn't
just
be
us
it'd,
be
like
pharmacists,
there's
like
three
or
four
of
the
professions
that
the
the
languaging
and
the
state
laws
that
you
have
to
be
able
to
diagnose.
B
You
cannot
be
a
mental
health
provider
unless
you
can
diagnose-
and
that
is
that's
not
true
in
every
state.
There's
many
states
that
don't
have
that
language
in
it
and
there's
a
much
broader
array
of
people
who
are
working
boots
on
the
ground
in
mental
health
and
not
waiting
for
acute
illness,
so
so
that,
from
my
own
professional
background,
that
is
just
every
time
I
hear.
Oh
there's
such
a
shortage
of
mental
health
providers.
There's
like
so
many
of
us
are
like
we're
here.
It's
just
the
rules
are
making
it
impossible.
B
Is
it
is
totally
yes
yep?
It
absolutely
is
yeah
for
sure,
but.
B
B
A
B
We're
at
the
we
we
have
the
language
actually
drafted
and
now
we're
at
the
shopping
at
around
stage,
not
to
legislators
but
to
other
people
in
the
community,
so
that
you
know
to
make
sure
everybody
understands
what's
going
on
and
and
not
push
back
against
it.
If
we
were
to
bring
it
farther
along
yeah.
C
If
you
want
to
you
know,
I'd
be
willing
to
assist
with
that.
I
have
experience
with
great
health
policy
and-
and
you
know
looking
at
proposed
legislation
so.
B
Yeah,
I
will
for
sure,
connect
you
with
the
group.
That's
doing
this
yeah
so
anyway,
that
I
know
this
is
not
really
the
purview
of
the
public
health.
You
know
public
health
advisory
board,
but-
and
you
know
obviously
like
I
said
it's
two
different
levels,
but
it
that's
just
the
thing
that
jumps
out
at
me
like
what?
What
can
we
do,
even
at
our
level
to
influence?
B
A
Because
you
know
that
partnership
is
specific
to
hennepin
county,
but
it
includes
the
five
health
boards
that
are
in
hennepin
county,
so
minneapolis
bloomington,
edina,
richfield
and
hennepin
county
health
plans.
One
of
their
priorities
is
community
mental
well-being,
and
so
we've
got
mental
health.
You
know
providers
in
that
group,
and
so
this
topic
has
come
up
in
a
number
of
different
ways
within
that
partnership,
and
I
think
that
there
would
be
a
way
for
the
public
health
advisory
committee
to
if
nothing
else
write.
A
A
You
know
what
is
already
kind
of
a
recognized
or
recognition.
You
know
that
mental
health
needs
more
attention
and
to
write
something.
You
know
that
says
this
and
our
appeal
would
really
be
to
the
city
council,
but
you
know
it
would
be
something
that
we
could
get
the
health
department
behind.
We
could
you
know,
potentially
you
know,
get
the
chip
community
mental
well-being
group
behind.
B
Love
if
the
health
department,
when
we
get
to
the
point
at
the
state
with
these
groups
that
are
coming
together,
say
let's,
because
we're
not
actually
changing
the
language
of
qmhp.
What
they're
proposing
is
this
another
category,
that's
kind
of
parallel
without
the
diagnostic
thing
and
boy
would
I
love
in
two
years
to
have
the
the
the
public
health?
You
know
what
you
call
public
health
department
on
board
saying
we
support
this
because
we
need
our
boots
on
the
ground.
C
C
B
A
And
you
know
there
is
I
I
mean
there's
so
much
discussion
that
happens
in
that
community
mental
well-being
group,
because
they
also
talk
about
the
lack
of
culturally.
You
know
well-matched
culturally,
appropriate.
You
know,
providers
language,
appropriate
providers.
You
know
where
one
of
the
so
I'll
just
give
you
some
background.
One
of
the
organizations
that
we
were
able
to
provide
some
funding
to
is
actually
working
on
trauma
within
the
latinx
community
and
how
they
are
dealing
with.
It
is
that,
of
course,
you
can't
call
them
mental
health
providers.
A
You
can't
you
know
or
anything
like
that,
but
they
are
working
on
training
people
in
trauma
in
being
trauma,
informed
and
holding
healing
circles
that
are
in
the
languages.
You
know
spoken
by
the
people
that
are
being
trained,
and
then
you
know
those
healing
circles
are.
You
know,
then,
have
a
ripple
effect.
You
know,
because
then
more
people
you
know
get
exposed
to
you
know
those
kinds
of
discussions
which
is
in
and
of
itself
mental
health
work.
A
You
know
community
mental
well-being
work,
but
these
are
just
you
know,
people
that
are,
you
know,
a
part
of
a
closed
kind
of
church
community,
and
so
you
know
the
church
is
able
to,
and
this
organization
is
able
to
do
that
because
they
are
the
mental
health
provider,
so
they're
providing
the
training
to
the
to
the
community
members
hosting
the
healing
circle
groups,
and
then
each
of
those
people
are
being
invited
basically
to
have
their
own
healing
circle
groups
or
to
take
you
know,
to
take
sort
of
that
model
and
do
other
things
with
it.
A
There
is
such
a
need,
and
there
is
just
so
little
available
to
people
you
know
and
and
there's
this
grand
scale
of
need
and
then
just
so
little.
You
know
in
terms
of
the
narrow
definitions
that
are
out
there
of
who
can
actually
do
this
work.
B
It's
so
you
know
the
impact
just
ripples
all
the
way
up.
When
you
hear
I
I
just
talked
to
a
cousin
of
mine
not
very
long
ago.
I
would
talk
to
her
about
once
a
year
and
she
has
bipolar-
and
I
hadn't
heard
from
her
in
a
couple
of
years
actually
and
I
reached
out
to
her
so
what's
going
on,
she
had
a
she
had
to
be
hospitalized
and
she
had
to
go
way
up
to
like
way
north
of
here
like
seven
hours
north
to
get
an
acute
hospital
bed.
Oh.
A
B
You
know
because
there
was
nothing
in
the
twin
cities
and
she
lives
in
the
metro,
and
there
was
absolutely
no
beds
here
at
all,
and
what
that
makes
me
think
is
how
do
we
deconstruct
that
and
spiral
that
back
right?
How
do
we
go
if
we
had
more
people
boots
on
the
ground
at
the
community
level
right
outside
of
the
medical
model?
Who,
who
could
say,
I'm
a
mental
health
provider?
I
work
in
the
community.
You
know
it's
not
about
triaging
medical
stuff,
it's
really
about
health
and
wellness.
B
B
A
Erin,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you
have
an
opportunity
to
get
get
a
word
in
edgewise
here,
because
again
I
I
want
to
piggyback
on
something
that
you
just
said
tyrion,
but
I
erin.
I
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you
have
an
opportunity
to
share.
C
Yeah
a
lot
of
pounding
for
all
of
that,
so
so
I
don't
really
have
too
much
to
add
I
mean
my
professional
background
is
obviously
attorney,
so
I
don't
have
the
same
level
of
insight
into
what's
needed
at
the
at
the
mental
health
practitioner
level
and
the
needs
of
the
community
like
tyrian.
Does
you
know
my
potential
role
in
being
able
to
assist
with
all
this
is,
is
assisting
with
drafting
lobbying
proposals
and
and
evaluating
proposed
legislation
to
make
sure
that
there's
no,
you
know
quirky
language
in
there.
D
C
I
mean
I
spent
most
of
my
day-to-day
correcting.
What
I
would
say
is
a
legal
mistake
that
someone
made
on
a
trust
modification
from
2002.
If
I
had
done
that
a
different,
you
know
it
we're
correcting
it,
but
it
should
have
been
done.
It
should
have
just
had
this
phrase.
One
phrase
written
differently
would
have
saved
us.
C
You
know
a
significant
amount
of
work
people,
so
so
people
key
in
on
that
type
of
stuff-
and
especially
you
know,
a
divided
legislature-
is
gonna
chew
the
fat
like
you
said
in
more
than
one
session,
so
you
know
that's,
that's
sort
of
my
role
is
to
kind
of
sit
back
and
and
see
where
I
can
help
and
if
there's
an
opportunity
to
get
involved,
that's
something
I'm
I'm
interested
in.
So.
A
Cool
well
I'll,
tell
you
another
thing
that
the
city
health
department
is
involved
in,
and
that
is
a
so
besides
chip,
which
is
focused
on
hennepin
county,
we
are
part
of
a
collaboration
that
is
seven
county
metro
wide
called
the
center
for
community
health
and
the
center
for
community
health
also
has
a
mental
health
collective
action
committee.
A
So
I
sit
on
that
committee
as
well,
and
I
have
seen
chip
and
cch.
I
have
seen
their
their
circles.
You
know
their
circles
of
conversation
coming
closer
and
closer
and
closer
together
and
finally
like
in
the
last
I
don't
know
two
years
you
know
actually
creating
kind
of
their
own
venn
diagram.
You
know
where
the
sweet
spot
is,
how
do
we
increase
community
capacity
for
responding
to
mental
health
concerns
in
our
neighbors
in
our
children,
in
our
grocery
stores
at
the
bus?
A
Stop
in
the
libraries
you
know,
and
one
of
those
things
is
by
you
know,
taking
the
same
model
that
cpr
has
you
know.
Cpr
was
all
about
increasing
community
capacity
to
be
able
to
respond
to
an
emergency
to
a
cardiac
event.
A
B
C
Right
right-
and
even
you
know,
to
piggyback
on
what
margaret's
saying,
even
with
the
the
police,
you
know,
my
mother
was
talking
about
an
opportunity
or
a
time
that
she
was
on
a
grand
jury
and
there
was
an
elderly
gentleman
who
had
dementia
and
you
know,
was
acting
out
violently.
I
mean
no.
B
C
Was
in
danger
of
getting
real
hurt
or
anything
I
mean
you
know
possibly
some
simple
assaults
or
something,
but
you
know
that
was
my
mom's
first
question
to
the
police
officer
during
during
the
grand
jury
was,
you
know,
was
he
oriented
to
time
place
and
date?
You
know:
is
this
person
even
capable
of
understanding
where
they
are
at
the
moment?
And
you
know
that
doesn't
even
I
don't
think
police
are
even
trained
to
do
that,
let
alone
the
person
on
the
street.
A
Yeah
well
right
now!
That's
that's
definitely
you
know
true
now
now
what
I
can
tell
you
about
mental
health.
First
aid
is
that
cch
as
an
organization
you
know
for
years,
had
worked
on
decreasing
stigma.
You.
D
A
Because
that's
another
huge
thing
right,
as
you
said,
tyrion
as
soon
as
you
say,
mental
health
people
are
like
I'm
out
of
here.
You
know
I'm
going
the
other
way,
because
I
don't
know
what
to
do
and
so
reducing
stigma,
and
I
would
love
to
do
a
presentation
on
this
to
the
phac.
A
They
developed
a
model
called
the
zone
of
the
zone
of
mental
health
stability,
and
how
do
you
keep
people
in
that
zone
or
if
they
go
outside
of
the
zone?
What
are
the
tools
again
that
you,
as
a
you
know,
a
common
person
have
at
your
fingertips
to
help
bring
somebody
back
into
that
zone
or
to
refer
out
you
know,
and
of
course
that's.
A
That's
part
of
the
problem
that
we're
talking
about
is
that
if
you
refer
out
who
are
you
referring
to
because
if
you
have
such
a
squeeze,
but
at
the
same
time,
if
I
as
an
you
know,
just
a
common
individual,
have
some
tools
in
my
tool
belt
to
at
least
engage
in
conversation.
A
B
Like
that
idea,
you
know
I'm
thinking
of
several
years
ago,
a
neighbor
of
ours
called
the
cope
program.
Oh
yes,
you
forget
what
the
acronym
stands
for
yeah,
but
it's
basically,
you
can
call
anytime
and
say
I
have
someone
who's
having
a
mental
health
crisis.
Well,
basically,
because
the
person
she
was
calling
about
didn't,
have
a
diagnosis
already
kelp.
Wouldn't
do
anything
sorry!
B
B
I
like
the
idea
of
how
do
we
teach
people
you
know
signs
to
look
for
that
are
not
symptomology,
but
just
like
hey
when
you
know
how
do
you
say
hi
to
somebody
in
a
way
that
just
says
I
care
about
you
without,
like
you
know,
necessarily
opening
up
a
whole
conversation,
there's
just
so
many
little
things
that
people
can
do.
You
know
right,
yeah,.
A
You
know
even
you
know,
with
this
as
a
chosen,
you
know
priority
area
and
honestly
mental
health
has
been
at
the
top
for
phac
for
years,
and
we
really
haven't
done
that
much
about
it,
because
we've
had
these
other
big
things
that
we
were
working
on,
but
I
think
that
you
know,
maybe
the
time
is
right,
because
we
just
had
that
fantastic
presentation
from
meredith
and
her
co-worker
from
hennepin
county.
A
We
could
have
a
presentation
on
you
know
some
from
somebody,
that's
doing
the
work
in
hennepin
county
on
you
know
the
community
mental
well-being,
team
and
just
to
get
a
lay
of
the
land
you
know
of
like
what
is
happening
at
the
city
level
at
the
county
level.
In
this
you
know
other
realm,
you
know
and
then
to
figure
out.
You
know.
Okay.
So
now
we've
learned,
you
know
a
number
of
different
things
about
mental
health
actions
that
are
actually
going
on.
You
know
right
around
us.
B
I
have
not
paid
any
attention
to
like
calling
numbers
or
anything,
so
I
have
no
idea
the
reality
of
whether
that
ballot
measure
could
even
pass
or
not.
But
if
it
did,
what
is
the
role
of?
Let's
just
say
it
did
and
suddenly
like
we
are
going
to
reimagine
public
safety.
What
would
the
role
of
this
committee
be
in
that
voice
in
that
outcome?.
B
Really
great
question:
even
if
that
ballot
measure
doesn't
pass,
what
is
our
role
with
the
minneapolis
police
department,
which
I
know
is
probably
a
stretch,
but
you
know
what
I'm
saying
in
terms
of
okay.
So
let's
say
that
measure
doesn't
pass,
but
it's
clear
that
we've
got
to
do
something
different
around
how
we
approach
some
of
these
things,
which
are
often
directly
connected
to
mental
health
or
creating
pushing
people
into
mental
health
out
of
their
zone
right
and
what
is
our?
C
My
well,
I
I
do
think
it's
a
good
idea.
I
mean
I.
I
have
thought
that
the
intersection
of
you
know
criminal,
defense
and
public
safety.
You
know
policing
so
to
speak,
broadly
broadly
construed
and
public
health
needed
has
needed
reform.
I've
been
aware
of
that.
For
a
long
long
time
I
mean
it's
it.
It
occurs
in
the
jails
too.
I
mean
as
long
as
you
want
to
go.
B
C
Down
that
road,
you
know
when
you
talk
about
the
lack
of
you
know.
Care
for
those
individuals
is
significant.
I
mean
most
of
the
people
that
are
in
and
out
of
the
criminal
justice
system
are
suffering
from
either
addiction
or
mental
health
or
or
both,
or
have
experienced
some
sort
of
trauma
in
their
life.
I
mean
well.
C
So
yeah
I
mean
really
getting
the
you
know.
I
think
the
awareness
is
starting
to
get
out
there
with
the
public,
but
they
don't.
You
know
I've
had
my
foot
in
the
criminal
defense
world
at
times
and
really
became
aware
of
it
through
that
avenue
of
realizing
just
how
poor
mental
health
services
in
the
united
states
are
and.
D
C
So
so
yeah
I
mean
their
needs,
am
100
in
agreement
with
you
that
there
that
public
health
should
have
input
into
policing
and
specifically
with
mental
health,
and
you
know
I
would
throw
addiction
treatment
in
there
as
well.
You
know,
I
don't
know
if
that's
technically
considered
a
mental
health
disorder
or
how
it's
exactly
diagnosed
anymore.
But,
ultimately,
you
know
there's
not
enough
services
for
those
people.
A
A
A
C
A
You
want
to
get
a
little
a
little
careful
about.
You
know
what
we're
asked
to
do
because
is
it
within
our
purview?
You
know,
because
that's
one
of
the
things
you
know
is
that
it
gets
a
little
tricky
if
you're
asked,
for
you
know
to
deliver
the
moon
and
it's
like
okay.
Well,
you
know
we're
not.
A
You
know
rocket
scientist,
so
we
can't
really
do
that
yeah,
but
I
I
do
think
that
it's
a
very
legitimate
question
to
ask
and
to
at
least
try
to
uncover
or
discover
you
know
is:
where
do
we
fit
do
we
fit
and
where
do
we
fit
and
how
do
we
fit
yeah
aaron?
I'm
sorry.
C
C
Like
they
don't
need
army
equipment.
In
my
opinion,
that
would
be
better
spent
towards
mental
health
services,
and
but
you
know
I
I
agree
with
you,
it's
just
exactly.
Where
do
we
fit
in
and
how
do
you
get
a
slice
of
the
pie
and
just
you
know
I
don't
know:
has
anybody
ever
budgeted
out
what
you
know
different
proposals
like
what
they
would
cost
or
anything
like
that?
To
that
extent
yet
or
no.
A
B
A
C
Yeah
and
maybe
I'm
getting
too
too
many
steps
ahead,
but
I
mean
ultimately
by
the
time
it
lands
on
you,
know,
city,
council
or
a
governor
or
legislature's
desk.
They
I
mean
those
are
the
nuts
and
bolts
that
they're
gonna
say:
okay,
what's
what.
A
B
Yeah,
I
haven't,
you
know
I
missed
the
mayoral
debate,
the
other
night.
That
happened.
I
want
to
resume
and
I,
like
I
said
I
haven't
really
been
other.
I
mean
I
know
what
the
issues
are,
but
I
haven't
done
a
deep
dive
research
myself,
but
I
I
I
even
if
our
job
as
an
advisory
board
was
to
dispel
some
of
the
myths
to
the
public
right.
I
I
get
we're
an
advisory
board,
so
we
we
it's
like
I
used
to
say
to
my
kids
when
they
were
teenagers,
you
know
they'd
be
like
so-and-so.
B
Why
did
they
do
this?
They
can't
do
this
and
I'd
be
like.
I
can't
make
anybody
do
anything
right.
That
was
constantly
my
refrain
as
a
parent.
I
can't
make
anybody
do
anything,
and
I
I
kind
of
feel
that
way
about
this
board
too
right
like
at
any
advisory
board
like
sometimes
they
don't
even
want
our
advisement.
B
We
offer
it
anyway,
which
is
good,
but
I
do
think
you
know
what
how
how
can
we?
How
do
we
put
the
press,
so
it
comes
from
the
community
too.
Is
that
our
role?
You
know-
and
I
mean
it
just
ties
everything
together-
that
we've
already
been
talking
about
right.
You
know:
what
can
the
community
do
even
at
their
boots
on
the
ground
level?
You
know
in
terms
of
interacting
interpersonally,
but
I
just
think
how
can
we
is
there
a
role
for
the
public
health
advisory
committee
to
help
shape
the
local
conversation
on
well?
B
What
does
it
mean
to
have
less
police
officers
and
more
social
workers?
What
does
that
really
mean
right?
You
know,
and
you
know
in
minneapolis
the
truth
is
we're
hemorrhaging
police
officers.
Anyway,
we
already
got
less
officers
so.
C
C
A
A
Yeah
because
yeah
there
would
be
either
311
or
911.
That
would
keep
all
kinds
of
data.
You
know
on
what
sort
of
calls
come
in
you
know
response
time.
You
know
I
mean
there's
like
all
kinds
of
data.
You
know
around
that
kind
of
stuff
and
if
they
don't
have
it
at
the
city
level,
they
certainly
would
at
the
county
level
because
they
also
have
the
ability
to
respond
to
mental
health
crises.
You
know,
as
we
learned
you
know,
from
meredith's
presentation
last
month,
so
you
know,
there's
data,
that's
out
there.
C
Yeah
yeah,
I
totally
agree,
I
mean
them.
That
would
be.
You
know
some
people
like
anecdotal
evidence.
They
you
know
they,
especially
with
mass
shooters
or
things
like
that.
That's
always
the
question.
Oh,
this
person
had
a
mental
health
problem
or
whatever,
but
you
know,
I
would
certainly
find
it
interesting
to
see.
Okay,
you
know
what
percentage
of
these
calls
would
be
better
off.
D
D
B
A
And
do
know
I
mean
it's,
it
has
to
yeah.
You
know.
Our
role,
of
course,
is
to
you
know,
advise
the
city,
council
and
the
health
department.
So
you
know,
because
we
kind
of
sit
in
between
those
two
bodies.
You
know
we
can,
you
know,
go
to
both
of
those
entities
with
either
advice.
Recommendation
requests,
you
know
so
so
that's
helpful
as
well.
You
know
is
to
be
able
to
request
things.
You
know
so
have
some
sort
of
data
review
around
you
know.
A
Policing
have
some,
you
know,
and
I
think
of
it,
as
you
know,
for
mental
health
as
well
is
that
we
probably
would
have
to.
A
Narrow
the
scope
around
mental
health
data,
because
really
the
minneapolis
health
department
has
mental
health
providers
in
the
schools
so
in
the
school-based
clinics.
So
there's
your
youth
component,
you
know
is
what
is
what
does
that
data?
Look
like
you
know
in
terms
of
providing
mental
health
services
to
youth
in
schools,
but
you
know
meredith
as
a
part
of
this
committee.
Has
you
know
resources
into
you
know
hennepin
county.
You
know
to
be
able
to
answer
some
of
those
questions,
so
it
is
really
tapping
into
the
yeah.
A
D
Yes,
I
had
to
actually
restart
oh
complete.
I
had
to
completely
re
update
and
restart
everything,
so
I
apologize.
A
No
worries
we're
glad
that
you
joined
us.
We
can
kind
of
give
you
a
quick
little
recap
here
of
you
know
what
we've
been
talking
about,
which
were
really
two
big
areas
within
this
priority
is
mental
health
and
that,
of
course,
takes
on
all
kinds
of
layers.
You
know
in
terms
of
cultural
competence
of
the
you
know,
provider
the
lack
of
access
to
you
know,
folks
that
are
either
you
know:
providers
of
color
culture,
language.
A
A
I
talked
about
a
couple
of
collaborations
that
the
minneapolis
health
department
is
part
of
so
there's
a
seven
county-wide
collaboration
that
you
know
has
a
collective
action
committee
on
mental
health
and
tyrion
was
able
to
share
from
her
professional
experience
that
you
know.
Mental
health
at
the
state
level
is
so
narrowly
defined
as
a
provider,
if
you're
a
mental
health
provider.
It's
so
narrowly
defined
and
how?
How
is
it
that
that
could
be?
A
That
definition
could
really
be
kind
of
cracked
open.
You
know
or
a
different
kind
of
legislation
passed
that
creates
greater
access,
and
then
we
also
talked
about
other
things
that
phac.
So
what?
What
would
a
phac
role
be?
You
know,
in
terms
of
either
helping
to
dispel
myths
reduce
stigma.
You
know
share
resources.
A
You
know,
learn
more
about
mental
health
initiatives
that
are
going
on.
You
know
both
in
the
city
and
and
in
the
county,
especially
since
those
would
be
the
two
places
that
we
would
have
immediate
touch
points,
and
we
also
talked
about
you
know:
how
do
you
work
to
increase
like
community
member
response?
You
know
to
a
person
that
is
experiencing
a
mental
health.
You
know
incident
whatever.
A
That
incident
is
so
sort
of
the
take
the
cpr
and
the
aed
training
model,
and
you
know,
and
really
try
to
increase
that
community
capacity
so
that
any
person
on
the
street
you
know
has
some
tools
in
their
toolbox.
That
could
be
a
a
help.
You
know
in
a
situation
that
they
wouldn't
be
a
provider.
They
would
not,
maybe
not
even
be
able
to
refer
that
person
to
resources,
but
you
know
if
you
could
actually
bring
that
person
sort
of
back
from
the
edge
or
wait
until
help
arrives.
A
A
A
You
know
or
other
you
know,
respondents
who
could
go
out
on
calls
and
and
then
we
started
down
the
data
path.
You
know
like
well
how
many
mental
health
calls
are
there
that
come
in?
How
are
those
responded
to
you
know?
Who
has
anybody
put
together
a
budget?
You
know
related
to
what
would
what
would
a
changed?
A
A
D
D
Just
give
you
a
just
a
little
bit
about
my
background,
I
retired
from
hennepin
county
medical
center
may
1st,
and
I
worked
there
slightly
over
20
years
as
a
psychiatric
nurse
in
the
last
six
years
in
the
emergency
room
with
the
acute
psychiatric
service
area,
and
then
I
also
worked
another
four
at
the
at
the
adult
detention
center
downtown,
and
so
I'm
very
familiar
with
what
you're
speaking
of
and
have
worked.
D
I
I
guess
as
a
pa
paid
person
since
82
off
and
on
in
the
area
of
of
mental
health,
and
so
and
I
did
look
over
your
slides
from
the
last
the
last
presentation,
and
I
noticed
that
none
of
the
hospitals
that
actually
have
psychiatric
beds
were
included
in
the
presentation
which
I
was
surprised
because
the
the
the
you
know,
the
the
staff
at
the
hospital
in
the
emergency
rooms
have
a
a
lot
of
con.
A
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that.
The
reason
that
they
that
those
slides
didn't
include
any
hospital
information
is
because
it
was
a
presentation.
A
So
meredith
martinez
is
a
phac
member,
she's,
the
hennepin
county
representative
to
this
committee,
and
so
she
had
made
an
offer
a
couple
of
months
ago,
as
the
phac
was
talking
about
these
priorities,
you
know,
and
and
what's
going
to
rise
to
the
top,
she
had
made
an
offer
to
come
and
share
a
presentation
from
the
county,
so
from
hennepin
county,
specifically
that
they
had
done
to
the
county
board,
and
so
it
was
she
and
one
of
her
co-workers
or
one
of
her
colleagues
from
you
know
as
human
services,
yeah
hennepin
county
human
services.
A
A
But
I
think
that's
like
such
a
great
gap
right
that
you've
just
identified
in
our
own
learning,
is
both
in
terms
of
public
safety,
which
is
you
know
another
one
of
the
buckets
within
this
group
and
mental
health.
Is
you
know
how
that
lands
in
the
hospitals?
You
know
how
it
lands
in
community
clinics
how
you
know,
how
are
those
responses?
What
does
that
data
look
like,
and
then
you
know
what?
A
What
are
the
demographics
you
know
around?
You
know
those
mental
health
and
demographics
isn't
quite
the
right
word
I
mean
I
mean
more
in
terms
of
terry
anne
was
sharing
about
yeah
they're,
like
a
sheer
lack
of
mental
health
beds.
You
know
like
acute
mental
health
care
within
you
know
the
city
of
minneapolis,
and
you
know
knowing
somebody
who
had
to
go
seven
hours
away.
You
know
to
even
get
get
a
bed.
You
know
in
a
facility
where
she,
you
know
she
would
be
safe,
so
yeah.
A
So
that's
you've
really
pointed
out
something
kind
of
critical
in
terms
of
a
piece
of
the
pie
that
we
haven't
really
heard
anything
about
yeah
and.
D
I
I'm
surprised
because
the
hennepin
county
medical
center,
where
I
worked,
we
have
you
know
such
close
contact
with
the
county
commissioners
because
they
help
with
our
funding
and
like
at
the
acute
because,
like
you
all,
were
talking
about,
there's
of
course,
there's
not
enough.
There's
not
enough
psychiatrists.
D
There's
not
enough
psychiatric
nurse
practitioners,
there's
not
enough
registered
nurses,
mental
health
workers,
there's
just
for
adults,
it's
even
worse
for
children
and
like
at
hennepin
county
medical
center,
there's
only
14
beds
in
the
acute
psychiatric
service
area
for
individuals
to
wait,
and
so
it
and
then,
of
course,
the
jails
of
issues.
D
You
know
individuals
end
up
in
you
know
at
the
hennepin
county,
adult
detention
center
and
I'm
sure
with
children.
I
just
worked
with
adults,
so
I
but
I
but
children
did
end
up
in
our
area
because
there
weren't
places-
and
so
I
think
something
that
always
concerned
me-
is
that
there's
just
not
good
information
for
the
public
to
know
where
to
send
their
family
members,
because,
like
hennepin
county
medical
center,
for
example,
only
has
outpatient
services
for
children.
D
So
it
would,
you
know:
oftentimes
people
just
bring
people
just
wherever,
instead
of
sending
people
to
places
that
actually
have
services,
so
children
aren't
who
are
in
crisis
with
adults
that
are
in
crisis.
D
Just
things
like
that
would
be,
I
would
say,
would
be
helpful,
so
if
the
public
actually
knew
where
the
facilities
that
could
as
children,
so
if
their
child
actually
needed
to
go
inpatient,
they
could
just
be
there
instead
of
having
to
wait
literally
hundreds,
sometimes
hundreds
of
hours,
to
go
to
a
place
that
could
take
care
of
children
and
then
also
too,
if
people
had
chemical
dependency
needs
for
inpatient
where
to
go
instead
of
just
bringing
them
just
anywhere,
so
that
peop,
you
know
it's
just
not
good.
B
Sharon,
I
have
a
question
this
is
tyrion
sure
so
because
I
have
a
lot
of
ots
at
work
in
inpatient
mental
health
at
hcmc,
and
I
know
that
those
number
of
beds
have
shrunk
over
the
years.
I
believe.
B
B
Seven
days
a
week,
8
am
to
8
pm
you.
You
know
snap,
your
finger,
your
wrist,
your
foot
boom
go
to
wherever
there's
like
tria
and
there's
a
couple
other
places,
but
you're
right.
We
don't
have
that
at
all
for
mental
health
across
the
lifespan,
whether
it's
kids
or
adults
and
people
go
one
or
two
routes.
Right
I
go
to
the
emergency
room,
I
call
the
police
like
what
do
I
do.
You
know
and
need.
Well,
those
are
good
options.
Sometimes.
C
I
I
think,
I
think,
both
of
what
what
you
know
what
I'm
hearing
both
of
you
say
is.
You
know
well,
two
things
like
one
people
need
to
know
more,
have
better
information
on
where
to
take
people,
but
then
also
just
on
a
broad
societal
scale.
How
much
of
an
issue
is
this
really
because
you
know
it's
as
we
know
it's
big,
but
the
average
person's
you
know.
Thinking
about
mental
health
is
again
I
mean
it's.
Oh
there
was
a
mass
shooting.
Was
the
person
mentally
ill?
C
Why
didn't
they
take
his
guns
when
really
the
damage
it
began,
because
it's
sensational-
and
you
know,
but
really
the
the
damage
is
in
the
day-to-day
interactions,
and
you
know
the
everyday
stuff
far
outweighs
the
you
know
the
mass
shootings
that
we
unfortunately
have
in
the
united
states,
I'm
not
saying
they're
not
trying
to
minimize
them
in
any
way,
but
you
know
that
people
just
don't
understand
how
big
of
a
problem
it
actually
is
because.
B
It
gets
so
watered
down
right
and
I
don't
mean
watered
down
as
anticipated,
but
you
know
if
I
have
a
child
that
I'm,
that
is
hovering
on
the
edge
of
mental
health
crisis.
I
just
got
to
try
to
get
him
to
school
the
next
day
right
and
then
maybe
that
kid
pulls
it
together,
a
little
bit
to
structure
school,
but
it's
still
a
problematic
situation
right,
it's
it's!
Now
we
have
a
kid
who's
either
inflicting
trauma
on
other
kids
is
experiencing
their
own
trauma.
Is
it
giving
the
teacher
trauma
like?
I
think
it?
D
What
exactly
is
going
on,
and
so
that's
that's
also.
What
makes
it
so
difficult.
A
C
A
You
know
those
services
are
reimbursable
at
a
rate,
obviously
makes
it
worth
the
time
to
open
up
a
brand
new
facility
that
has
the
doctors
available
and
when
you
don't
have
that
same
kind
of
outlook
on
mental
health
and
mental
health
provision
and
training,
mental
health,
protect
practitioners
and
passing
laws
that
broaden
those
descriptions
of
who
can
and
cannot
do
this
work.
You
know
you
have
just
created,
you
know
a
funnel.
A
B
A
Yeah
yeah,
I
think
we're
gonna
get
yanked
back
here,
any
second.
What
a
robust
conversation,
I'm
so
glad
that
we
had
just
comfortable
time
to
be
able
to.
You
know,
really
dump
out
a
lot
of
both
ideas
as
well
as
yeah
just
concerns.
You
know
and
experiences
of
you
know
what
the
what
the
mental
health
and
public
safety
you
know
situations
are
like
here.
So
I
guess
I
will
just
say
thanks
to
all
of
you
for
all
of
that.
C
Yeah
that
was
the
most
fun
thing
I
did
all
day.
I
mean
it's,
it's
a
difficult
issue,
but
it's
you
know
it's
like
I
like
talking
about
this
stuff,
so
it
was
nice
to
hear
perspectives
from
tyrian
and
sharon
and
margaret
and
hopefully
the
rest
of
the
committee
agrees.
A
We'll
see
well,
I
I
keep
expecting
that
we're
just
gonna
like
disappear
here
any
moment,
so
I'm
gonna.