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A
B
Honestly,
I
feel
like
most
of
us
know
what's
in
here,
but
you
can
go
ahead
and
read.
I
guess
just
the
point
about
the
estate
open
meeting
laws.
A
Yeah,
okay,
so
before
we
start,
let's
just
quickly
review
some
instructions
about
this
meeting
under
the
state's
open
meeting
law.
All
votes
during
an
online
meeting
must
be
taken
by
roll
call.
This
will
require
each
member
to
activate
their
microphone
to
give
their
vote
and
then
turn
their
mic
back
off.
B
Yeah
so
good
evening,
my
name
is
erin
and
I'm
the
chair
of
the
community
environmental
advisory
commission.
Before
we
begin
I'd
like
to
note
that
this
meeting
includes
the
remote
participation
of
members
as
authorized
under
minnesota
statutes,
section
13d
point
0
21,
due
to
the
declared
local
health
pandemic.
A
Sure
I'm
just
going
to
tell
you
right
now
that
I
have
multiple
lists
with
different
names
on
them.
So
I'm
going
to
read
through
one
of
the
lists
and
if
I'm
missing
names
please
tell
me
but
max
dalton.
C
D
F
G
A
H
I
F
I
J
B
Sorry,
I'm
just
looking
at
the
the
note
that
just
came
through
the
chat.
I
don't
currently
see
anybody
waiting
on
in
terms
of
on
the
phone,
so
there's
nobody
that
we
need
to
admit
at
this
point.
So
I
don't
know
if
somebody
wants
to
just
message
lee
and
let
him
know
that
he
might
need
to
retry
or
something.
B
But
okay,
moving
on
the
first
item
on
our
business
here
today
is
the
adoption
of
today's
agenda
and
then
also
the
acceptance
of
the
minutes
from
our
march
meeting.
I
am
wondering
if
anybody
has
any
particular
updates
or
concerns
with
either.
K
I
noticed
in
the
march
minutes,
I
don't
know
if
this
matters,
I
think
you
were
taking
your
own
notes
erin,
but
when
we
talked
about
the
lock
and
dam,
there
were
some
suggestions
of
groups
to
have
presents,
and
I
think
there
were
a
few
more
that
we
talked
about
that
are
listed
in
the
minutes.
B
Yeah,
I
do
happen
to
have
my
own
list,
but
it
might
be
helpful
just
if
you,
if
anybody
remembers
off
the
top
of
their
head
like
what
some
of
those
different
ones
are.
I
have
it
in
my
notes
here
somewhere
on
my
desk,
but
I'm
just
wondering
if
we
want
to
run
through
that
quick.
K
I
The
I
think
the
hennepin
county,
or
whoever
does
the
water
you
know
that
we
drank
was
gonna,
was
suggested.
B
I
And
and
then
and
whatever
excel
is
called
officially
or
just
called
excel.
That
would
have
to
do
with
that.
B
Problem
julia:
do
you
mind
passing
that
back
along
to
kim.
A
Yeah,
I'm
I'm
opening
it
as
well,
and
it
doesn't
there's
no
web
page
so
we'll
get
that
fixed.
B
Great
all
right:
does
anybody
want
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
from
last
month's
meeting,
as
amended
with
those
additional
groups
and
approve
the
agenda
for
today's
meeting
as
written.
M
B
All
right,
hopefully,
that's
better
okay,
so
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
from
last
month
with
the
amendments
and
then
also
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
for
today's
meeting,
recognizing
that
there
are
spelling
errors
that
need
to
be
worked
on.
B
Thanks
nick
julia,
do
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
call
roll.
N
I
D
F
N
B
Fantastic
before
I
hop
into
the
land
acknowledgement
statement,
I
do
just
want
to
run
through.
B
B
B
The
ward
8
office-
yes,
that
is
the
one
that's
showing
up
for
me,
sorry,
that
I
can
only
identify
by
the
last
two
digits
on
my
screen
for
the
person
whose
phone
number
ends
in
one
nine.
If
you
need
to
unmute
yourself,
you
can
hit
star.
F
A
B
A
Definitely
I
I
think
I
missed
that
in
the
beginning,
hi,
I'm
julia.
I
am
an
americorps
vista
working
with
the
sustainability
division
and
I
am
subbing
in
for
kim
tonight
to
kind
of
staff.
This
meeting
so
excited
to
be
here.
O
Sure
hi
everybody-
this
is
luke
holland
camp,
I'm
also
in
the
sustainability
division
working
for
kim
and
my
portfolio
includes
buildings,
energy,
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
working
with
our
electric
and
gas
utilities
good
to
be
with
you
all.
B
B
As
a
city,
we
have
a
responsibility
to
care
for
the
land
on
which
we
live
and
work
and
all
of
its
natural
surroundings.
This
stewardship
is
an
integral
part
of
our
involvement
in
this
commission
and
we
honor
it.
As
we
begin
our
meeting,
I'm
now
just
going
to
open
this
space
to
discuss
ways
in
which
we
can
support
indigenous
people
in
our
community.
Are
there
any
particular
events
or
different
things
that
are
going
on
that
anybody
wants
to
share.
G
E
Ahead,
sorry,
I
was
actually
just
looking
this
up
to
make
sure
it's
correct.
There's
several
earth
day
events
happening
on
the
weekend
and
probably
starting
on
the
24th
of
april
being
a
march
and
celebrations,
starting
at
the
guccio
day,
aching
park
april
24th
at
1pm.
That's
in
duluth,
oh
shoot!
E
K
There
is
an
event
on
saturday
afternoon
with
el
hanomer
mn350,
a
few
other
groups
native
sun
at
lake
street
two
o'clock
on
green
jobs
for
all
rally.
K
I
was
also
going
to
say,
given
the
circumstances
that
native
people
are
targeted
by
police
brutality
and
killed
even
more
higher
disproportional
rates
to
their
population,
even
then
black
minnesotans.
So
I
would
encourage
supporting
measures.
There
are
plenty
of
suggestions.
Recommendations
going
around.
B
Hearing
none
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
the
discussion
item.
It's
the
travel
and
sorry
was
somebody
trying
to
say
something.
B
Nope,
okay,
I'm
hearing
things
so
we're
looking
at
the
travel
demand,
management,
parking
and
ev
charging
ordinance
changes
nick
put
together
a
letter,
and
some
other
folks
were
really
great
about
also
just
making
sure
that
some
of
the
things
that
I'd
copied
and
pasted
over
had
the
right
words
in
it.
So
thank
you
for
that.
B
I
am
going
to
share
my
screen
for
those
of
you
who
are
calling
in
by
phone.
There
should
be
a
link
to
this
document.
F
P
M
M
So
many
of
you
were
on
the
call
last
month
where
we,
when
we
got
the
presentation
from
the
community
planning
economic
development
group
about
ordinance,
changes
related
to
transportation,
demand
management
and
a
number
of
other
topics,
and
I
think
the
general
sense
was
there
was
a
lot
of
support
for
it
from
the
current
ciac
body,
and
we
also
brought
up
that
the
ev
charging
pieces
specifically
were
very
well
aligned
with
and
even
motivated
to
some
extent
by
comments
from
the
previous
c
ac
and
kind
of
landed
on.
Well,
there's
not
a
lot
of
there.
M
I
even
was
one
of
the
voices
that
kind
of
mentioned
that,
like
we
already
weighed
in
on
it,
but
as
I
was
thinking
about
it
more
something
that
the
last
sea
struggled
with
near
the
end
of
our
term,
was
engagement
with
city
departments
and
city
council
members,
and
so
I
felt
like
it
may
not
be
a
good.
Basically,
a
good
look
for
ciac
to
have
a
department
and
come
and
present
to
us
on
something
that
we
thought
was
good
and
not
produce
a
letter.
Documenting
that
we
supported
what
they
were
doing,
so
it's
very
brief.
M
Q
I'm
I'm
not
opposed
to
a
letter.
I
would
like
to
suggest
we
also
re-emphasize
our
concerns
about
vehicle
miles,
traveled
not
going
down.
So
in
the
sentence
you
know
at
the
time
the
letter
was
adopted.
Ciac
members
voiced
concerns
regarding
persistence,
of
negative
environmental
effects
from
single
occupant
vehicle
use.
Maybe
we
can
also
note
that
you
know
continued
or
increased
levels
of
vmt
is
also
a
concern.
M
L
Thanks
erin
and
thanks
nick,
I
appreciate
that
context
of,
and
history
related
to
like
engagement
with
departments
in
the
past
and
how
that's
something
we
should
be
considering
going
forward
is
how
we
can
just
yeah
acknowledge
engagement
and
folks
taking
time
in
the
evenings
to
engage
with
us
and
and
maybe
that's
something
we
can
just
consider
going
forward,
and
maybe
it's
not
like
a
letter
we
need.
Maybe
we
don't
need
to
write
a
letter
every
time,
but
just
think
about
how
we
can
acknowledge
and
thank
departments
going
forward.
L
So
I
appreciate
that
context.
I
I
think
in
general,
I'm
I'm
quite
pleased
and
and
very
supportive
of
the
eg
ev
charging
requirements
and
like
a
lot
of
other
things
in
this
travel
demand
management
plan.
So
I
would
be
happy
to
I'd
be
supportive
of
submitting
a
letter
and
saying
that
we
support
it
and
I
think
the
the
issue
of
thinking
about
vehicle
miles
traveled
is
a
great
idea.
L
Hopefully
this
you
know
some
of
their
strategies,
support
reducing
vehicle
miles
traveled
by
implementing
them,
but
yeah,
I
guess
they're
not
named
specifically.
I
think
I'll
also
note
that
since
the
last
meeting,
I
think
someone
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
this
city
council
adopted
already
the
eliminating
the
minimum
parking
requirements.
B
B
So
I
will
go
ahead
and
just
read
this
aloud
quickly.
The
community
environmental
advisory
commission
appreciates
the
opportunity
to
support
the
ordinance
changes
proposed
by
council
members
fletcher
and
gordon
to
implement
the
parking
and
transportation
demand
management
principles
outlined
in
the
minneapolis
2040
plan.
B
At
the
time
the
letter
was
adopted.
Ciac
members
voiced
concerns
regarding
persistence,
of
negative
environmental
effects
from
single
occupant
vehicle
use.
Even
those
powered
by
electricity
ciac
also
adopted
principles
to
guide
transportation
related
proposals
and
believes
that
there
should
be
increased
emphasis
on
reducing
vehicle
miles
traveled
in
any
ordinance
change,
though
those
effects
are
not
entirely
mitigated
by
the
proposed
ordinance
changes.
Cia
supports
the
proposed
changes
proposed
women's.
B
E
E
B
Okay,
thank
you
just
for
julia's
note
taking
purposes.
Thank
you
all
right
julia.
Do
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
call
roll
again?
This
is
on
approval
of
the
letter
that
we
just.
A
All
right
max.
I
A
Welcome
back
to
her
nick
yes,
jacqueline
hi.
I
B
B
Thank
you
to
those
who
did
start
putting
in
some
thoughts
on
the
google
drive
document
that
I'd
created,
I'm
gonna
just
plop,
that
into
the
chat.
So
if
anybody
does
have
particular
thoughts
around
some
of
the
questions
that
are
posed
on
the
agenda,
while
luke
is
going
ahead
and
telling
us
more
about
the
current
climate
action
plan
feel
free
to
drop
in
that
information,
I
would
say
that
this
is
primarily
just
like
a
notes
document
at
this
point
using
it
to
gather
all
the
thoughts
from
seat
members.
O
B
O
C
B
O
All
right,
okay,
glad
we
that
we
were
able
to
welcome
you
lee,
and
I
also
just
note
we
may
have
stacy
miller
from
our
office
coming
at
some
point
during
the
meet
as
well.
So
there
might
be
another
person
on
the
meeting
at
some
point
good
to
be
here
with
all
of
you-
and
I
am
gonna
start
sharing
my
screen
again.
My
name
is
luke
holland
camp.
I
am
a
sustainability
program
coordinator
with
the
city
and
kim
sends
his
regrets
he
wishes.
O
He
could
be
here
to
present
this,
but
he
and
I
work
closely
together
on
some
parts
of
the
climate
action
plan.
So
I
hope
to
do
it
justice
today
and
please,
as
I'm
going
along,
if
you
need
any
clarification
on
anything,
I'm
talking
about
or
any
questions
such
as
that.
Please
go
ahead
and
raise
your
hand
and
we
can
try
to
get
to
you
and
but
I'm
happy
to
answer
anything
I
can
so.
Could
someone
confirm
that
you
can
see
my
screen
right
now?
O
So
this
is
a
presentation
that
kim
came
up
with
and
for
those
on
the
phone.
I
should
also
mention
that
it
is
posted,
I
believe,
to
this
week's
web
page
for
the
cx
meeting
as
well
as
last
month's
ciac
meeting.
O
This
is
a
an
image
that
came
off
and
likes
to
start
out
climate
action
plan.
Presentations
with
this
is,
I
believe,
called
the
blue
marble
image.
This
is
the
first
image
taken
of
the
entirety
of
the
earth
back
in
the
60s.
O
I
believe
it
was,
and
that's
really
for
many
people,
the
beginning
of
the
recognition
of
the
importance
of
maintaining
our
natural
environment-
or,
I
should
say
that's-
maybe
a
lot
of
what
western
countries
began
to
recognize
its
significance,
although
it
was
recognized
for
much
longer
than
that
by
many
other
cultures,
and
it
was
also
during
some
of
these
space
images
that
we
saw
for
the
first
time
what
the
atmosphere
of
the
earth
looks
like.
O
So
you
can
see
that
in
this
slide
slide
number
three
glowing
is
a
really
thin
blue
ribbon
above
the
earth's
surface.
This
illuminates
really
how
how
important
the
atmosphere
is
to
us
and
that
it
is
this
very
thin
barrier
protecting
us
from
many
of
the
perils
of
space
and
it's
what
provides
oxygen
and
protection
to
us
now.
As
many
of
us
know,
we
have
not
been
taking
good
care
of
that
atmosphere
in
particular,
as
it
comes
to
climate
change.
O
H
O
Average
in
that
year,
red
strand
means
it
was
warmer
than
average
and
the
redder
it
is
the
hotter.
It
was
the
bluer.
It
is
the
cooler
it
was.
You
can
see
over
time
as
is
familiar
to
all
of
us.
It's
been
getting
both
warmer
and
warmer,
and
each
year
is
more
frequently
or
more
likely
to
be
warmer
than
it
is
to
be
cooler,
so
we're
seeing
the
visually
here,
the
impact,
the
march
of
global
warming,
particularly
in
minneapolis
and
st
paul
here,
and
it's
increase
in
severity
or
intensity.
O
You
could
say
now
all
of
that
leads
us
up
to
the
recognition
that
the
city
needs
to
do
its
part
to
address
climate
change,
so
in
2013,
minneapolis
passed
rather
adopted
its
climate
action
plan,
the
headline
for
the
climate
action
plan,
if
you
were
to
provide
an
elevator
speech
for
it,
was
that
we
for
the
first
time
committed
to
reducing
community-wide
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
those
goals
were
15
percent
by
2015
30
by
2025
and
80
by
2050,
and
that
all
compares
back
to
a
2006
baseline.
O
Now,
within
that
climate
action
plan,
there's
a
lot
of
other
subjects
and
those
those
subjects.
Basically,
all
those
strategies
that
contribute
to
us
helping
to
meet
our
our
climate
goals
were
created
by
a
series
of
work
groups
of
advisory
committees.
O
You
had
a
building's
energy
advisor
committee,
one
on
waste,
recycling
on
transportation,
land
use
and
one
on
environmental
justice,
and
it's
worth
knowing
no
noting
here,
as
is,
I
think,
noted
in
actually
the
written
document
itself
that
the
first
three
advisory
committees
were
in
existence
for
the
entirety
of
the
creation
process,
and
it
was
only
later
in
the
process
that
environmental
justice
was
added
in.
O
So
that
was
definitely
a
definitely
a
mistake
by
the
city
and
other
partners
putting
together
this
plan
and
it's
something
that,
as
we
talk
about
updating
the
climate
action
plan
to
something
more
like
a
climate
action,
justice
plan
or
similar
terminology,
is
something
that
definitely
needs
to
be
remedied.
Environmental
justice
needs
to
be
centered
in
any
updates.
O
There
are
a
few
very
noticeable,
and
perhaps
everybody
see
recognizable
strategies
that
are
proposed
within
the
climate
action
plan.
One
is
the
development
of
green
zones
this
and
I
believe
most
people
in
the
car
are
probably
familiar
with
green
zones,
but
these
are
areas
of
the
city
that
have
a
abnormally
high
burden
and
a
number
of
either
socioeconomic
factors
or
environmental
factors
and
they've
seen
really
not
just
a
lack
of
investment,
but
a
disinvestment
over
the
years
in
those
areas
of
the
city.
O
This
is
something
that
has
been
led
up
led
by
kelly
in
our
office,
and
the
intent
on
creating
green
zone
is
to
recognize
the
harm
that
has
been
done
and
the
conditions
in
those
areas
and
to
also
do
our
best
to
remediate
and
provide
some
level
of
restorative
justice
to
those
zones
on
the
right.
Here
you
see
that
when
you
create
what
is
kind
of
a
metric
of
metrics,
it's
a
metametric
that
combines
many
things.
O
You
see
these
concentrations
of
inequities
in
particularly
northern
minneapolis,
just
north
of
downtown,
as
well
as
then
in
parts
of
south
minneapolis,
just
south
of
downtown
and,
as
many
of
us
know
on
this
call
too.
Those
are
some
of
the
oldest
areas
of
housing
in
the
city,
as
well
as
some
of
the
areas
of
the
city
with
the
greatest
proportion
of
bypass
residents,
immigrant
residents
and
and
low-income
residents
too.
O
So
there's
really
a
number
of
overlapping
injustice
issues
in
those
areas,
but
the
green
zones
was
was
suggested
for
the
first
time
as
a
strategy
in
the
climate
action
plan.
It
is
something
that
the
city
has
succeeded
in
creating,
although
there's
of
course,
a
lot
more
work
to
be
done
within
those
green
zones
on
particular
topics.
O
O
and
noteworthy
in
this
is
that
we
have
reduced
emissions
while
the
gdp,
while
our
local
economy
has
grown
by
30
percent,
and
it
would
actually
be
a
somewhat
lengthy
task
to
itemize
out
all
of
the
policies
that
the
city
has
now
implemented
on,
particularly
the
energy
front.
So
we're
kind
of
providing
shorthand
here
in
saying
that
sie
minneapolis
has
actually
been
recognized
by
an
organization.
O
The
american
council
for
energy,
efficient
economy,
ac
tripoli
as
the
fourth
most
energy
efficient
city
in
north
america,
that
we
get
that
ranking
by
the
accumulation
of
a
number
of
different
energy
efficiency
policies
and
then
their
collective
impact.
So
we're
pretty
proud
of
that
and
it's
something
we've
worked
really
hard
on.
But
of
course,
there's
much
more
to
be
done
as
well.
O
One
of
those
one
of
those
policies
that
we're
set
to
undertake
soon
is
implementing
a
beyond
benchmarking
program.
That
would
drive
commercial
energy
using
buildings,
drive
down
commercial
energies
in
buildings
over
50
000
square
feet,
so
we
now
have
actually
layered
strategies
upon
strategies
in
the
climate
action
plan,
where
we've
had
a
energy
benchmarking
program
for
large
commercial
buildings.
O
Now
we're
going
beyond
that
by
requiring
energy
audits
for
poor
performing
buildings,
so
we're
starting
to
actually
move
in
some
areas
beyond
the
original
climate
action
plan
strategy
into
what
could
be
considered
kind
of
its
next
generation
or
its
next
step.
This
is
an
example
of
one
of
those
revisiting
on
pay
or
on
slide
11.
O
This
is
a
chart
that
shows
the
general
downward
trend
of
emissions
since
2006
in
gray,
is
our
emissions
from
natural
gas
blue
is
from
electricity,
and
on
top
of
that
green
from
android
transportation.
Those
three
are
the
lion's
share
of
the
emissions
from
the
city,
and
then
you
have
a
smaller
contributions
from
solid
waste
and
wastewater.
O
A
few
things
to
note
here-
and
it's
not
entirely
apparent,
but
it
will
become
more
apparent
in
a
future
slide.
Is
that
most,
if
not
nearly
all,
of
our
reductions
since
2006
have
come
from
a
reduction
in
those
electricity
emissions,
and
that
is
largely
because
the
electricity
we
receive
from
excel
energy
has
become
more
renewable
and
more
carbon
free
we've
also
contributed
a
lot
with
other
policies.
But
when
you
look
at
the
contribution
of
these
four
sectors
of
emissions,
electricity
is
really
carrying
all
the
weight
currently.
O
O
We've
paid
a
lot
of
attention
to
reducing
emissions
from
electricity
and
power
plants
and
that's
very
important,
but
we
often
can
forget
the
outside
impact,
particularly
in
a
cold
climate
like
ours,
that
emissions
from
natural
gas
have
and
that
electricity
use
or
the
emissions
from
electricity
and
natural
gas
come
from
their
use
in
buildings.
That's
really
73
percent
of
our
emissions
of
the
city
come
from
our
built-in
environment
and,
as
you
see
in
the
climate
action
plan
and
in
a
lot
of
the
public
policies
the
city
has
implemented.
O
But
as
we
see
this
slice
of
emissions
from
electricity
decrease
as
it
gets
smaller
and
smaller,
it's
going
to
become
apparent
that
natural
gas
and
iron
transportation
become
become
both
larger
and
larger
parts
of
the
pie.
So
not
just
natural
gas
needs
to
be
focused
on,
but
also
on-road
transportation
needs
to
be
focused
on.
We
have
very
little
actual
ev
penetration,
the
market
right
now,
and
that's
one
of
the
ways
that
we
can
really
drive
down.
Transportation
emissions
as
well
as
using
more
transit.
O
Here's
a
little
bit
of
a
forward-looking
forecast,
I'm
on
slides,
13,
now,
there's
dots
that
show
between
2006
and
2019
here,
the
actual
emissions
from
electricity,
natural
gas
and
this
that
reflects
what
we
saw
a
few
slides
ago,
which
is
electricity.
Emissions
are
going
down.
Natural
gas
emissions
are
generally
going
a
little
bit
up.
O
If
you
then
create
a
trend
line
from
natural
gas
emissions,
you
see
even
more
clearly
that
if
we
keep
on
business
as
usual,
those
natural
gas
emissions
are
going
to
go
up
up
up
towards
about
2
million
metric
tons
of
co2
equivalent
a
year
and
then
the
electricity
side.
We
project
that
they
keep
going
down
and
there's
a
few
pathways
they
go
down.
O
One
pathway
is
that
excel
has
an
integrated
resource
plan
which
predicts
out
into
the
future
how
decarbonized
they
will
be
so
that
shows
a
steady
reduction
through
2030
and
then
excel
has
a
carbon
free
vision
that
creates
carbon
free
electricity
by
2050.
But
the
city
also
has
100
new
electricity
goal
by
2030..
Now,
all
of
those
result
in
downward
trajectories
and
really
illustrate
than
the
gap
between
any
remaining
emissions
for
electricity
and
natural
gas
and
to
drive
home
how
difficult
our
task
is
but
necessary,
but
still
very
difficult.
O
Our
task
is
to
get
to
that
80
percent
reduction
in
emissions
by
2030
or
2050.
If
we
were
to
achieve
that,
we
need
to
have
all
of
our
emissions
sectors,
have
no
more
than
1
million
metric
tons
of
co2.
So
we
started
in
2006
at
about
5
million
metric
tons.
We
need
to
be
at
about
1
million
metric
tons
in
2050.
O
So
let's
imagine
electricity
is
carbon
free
so
that
zeroes
out
and
let's
imagine
all
of
our
vehicles
are
electric
vehicles
and
again
electricity
is
carbon
free,
those
zeroes
out?
Let's
imagine
we
figure
out
a
solution
for
solid
waste
and
wastewater
which
are
small
parts
of
the
puzzle,
but
still
require
a
lot
of
work.
But,
let's
imagine
those
are
somehow
carbon
free.
O
O
So
this
really
highlights
the
importance
of
focusing
on
natural
gas
in
the
near
future,
because
if
we
don't
significantly
alter
that
trajectory
of
natural
gas,
nothing
we
do
in
the
other
sectors
will
be
able
to
make
up
for
that
lack
of
progress.
O
It
doesn't
necessarily
care
as
much
if
we
get
to
zero
magically
in
2050,
we
have
to
start
reducing
emissions
faster
and
now
so
we
are
committed
to
100
renewable
electricity
for
municipal
operations,
that's
our
buildings
and
our
wastewater
and
our
streetlights
by
2022
and
citywide
by
2030,
and
we
also
have
a
goal
to
produce
10
of
our
electricity
from
local
solar
generation,
so
not
just
relying
on
the
utility
but
providing
for
ourselves
as
well.
O
The
climate
action
plan
we
haven't
had
and
I'm
in
slide,
15
now
and
sorry.
This
will
be
a
little
bit
difficult
to
see,
but
we
haven't
had
a
annual
report
on
progress
in
the
climate
action
plan,
partly
because
it's
it's
such
a
large
report.
We've
struggled
to
figure
out
how
to
concisely
report
back
to
people
on
the
progress
we're
making
other
than
reporting
just
on
the
kind
of
headline.
O
What
are
our
community-wide
admissions
doing
in
a
given
year,
but
in
the
clean
entrepreneurship
with
excel
energy
and
centerpoint
energy?
We
have
started
to
report
on
energy,
specific
and
ghg-specific
metrics,
and
we've
created
these
seven
metrics
that
are
aligned
with
goals
that
are
within
the
climate
action
plan.
So,
for
instance,
we
have
a
metric
on
our
gst
reductions
community-wide
that's
metric
one,
and
we
show
right
now
we're
not
on
a
trajectory
to
meet
our
2050
goal.
O
Metric
two
is
a
reduction
of
ghg
emissions
in
municipal
operations
of
1.5
percent
annually
and
we're
actually
exceeding
that
we're
doing
very
well
in
reducing
our
municipal
electricity
or
our
municipal
emissions,
so
we're
on
a
good
track
for
metric
two.
We
also
have,
within
the
climate
action
plan,
energy
reduction
goals
for
residential
and
the
commercial
industrial
sector.
O
We
have
seen
not
much
progress
on
the
residential
sector
in
terms
of
energy
use,
but
we
also
see
that
kind
of
going
up
and
down
every
year,
depending
on
what
the
weather
conditions
are
that
each
year.
So
it's
been
hard
to
figure
out
what
that
trend
is
so
because
that
we
say
that
that's
yellow
unknown.
If
we're
on
track.
O
We
in
2019
received
24
of
our
electricity
from
renewables,
and
although
the
goal
is
only
a
few
years
old,
the
pace
we're
on
to
increase
that
is
not
adequate
to
get
us
to
100
by
2030..
So
we
start
reporting
that
we're
not
on
track
to
meet
that
goal
either
for
municipal
operations
metric
number
six
we
do
see
renewable
electricity
is
increasing.
In
2019
we
were
up
to
88
percent
of
our
electricity
from
municipal
operations
coming
from
renewables.
O
So
we
say
that
that's
on
track
and
finally
metric
seven,
which
is
our
goal
for
10
of
our
electricity
coming
from
renewable
and
local
and
directly
purchased
sources
in
2025,
we're
at
5.7
currently
and
we've
seen
an
uptick
in
recent
years.
That
shows
we
may
be
accelerating
towards
10
percent,
but
it's
still
unclear.
We
need
a
few
more
years
of
data
when
taking
an
aggregate.
This
shows
that
there
are.
The
city
is
excelling
in
some
areas,
primarily
in
areas
of
municipal
operations.
O
Those
are
areas
that
really
the
city
government
has
much
much
control
over
and
we're
able
to
kind
of
set
our
own
destiny
future
we're
meeting
those
metrics
in
areas
where
we're
relying
on
utility
assistance
to
meet
goals
or
from
residents
and
businesses
to
meet
goals
as
well,
we're
not
doing
so
well.
We
have
a
lot
of
ground
to
make
up
and
we
need
to
accelerate
as
we
move
towards
our
goals
in
subsequent
years.
O
So
that
is
my
brief
overview
and
sorry.
It
focused
a
lot
on
buildings
and
energy
because
that's
in
particular,
where
I
kind
of
focus
my
work
there's
a
lot
of
other
great
stuff
in
the
climate
action
plan,
but
buildings
and
energy
also
are
the
lion's
share
of
the
emissions
contributions
to
reaching
our
emissions.
Our
overall
missions
goal.
O
B
There
is
a
question
in
the
chat
that
connects
from
barbara
getting
weird
feedback,
if
you
don't
mind
putting
yourself
on
mute,
luke.
Sorry,
so
fresh
energy
has
said
that
some
new
buildings
in
the
near
future
will
be
carbon
neutral.
O
Thanks
to
the
question
barbara,
I'm
not
going
to
speak
to
what
fresh
energy
is
saying
specifically,
I
can.
I
can
talk
about
what
and-
and
I
know
anna
johnson's
on
the
on
the
call
too.
O
She
might
be
able
to
speak
to
it,
but
I
can
say
that
we
do
see
a
future
where
we
can
have
a
gas
free
and
thus
a
carbon
neutral
building,
and
in
fact
we
can
do
that
now
it's
can
be
expensive
to
do,
but
from
a
technical
standpoint,
if
you
couple
a
building
with
ground
source
heat
pumps
that
should
meet
your
heating
cooling
load
and
then
you
power
those
heat
pumps
with
electricity
and
electricity
sufficient,
then
to
provide
for
your
needs.
O
You
also
have
to
make
the
building
envelope
very
tight
and
well
insulated,
and
then
you
have
to
make
sure
that
you're
not
using
gas
for
other
uses
in
the
building,
such
as
water,
heating
or
cooking,
and
if
you
do
those
things
which
you
can
do
now,
it's
you
know
it's
not
the
industry
standard,
but
you
definitely
can
do
them
now.
You
can
achieve
a
carbon
neutral
building
that
would
be
paired
with
solar
or
wind
renewables,
providing
electricity
to
that
building.
O
Yeah-
and
I
mean
it's
a
good
point-
also,
climate
change
is
very
expensive
for
the
city
too,
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
the
city
has
adopted
a
social
cost
of
carbon.
That
is
something
that
recognizes
the
cost
that
we,
as
a
society,
bear
for
all
the
for
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
So
when
you
do
an
analysis
that
includes
the
economic
impacts
of
climate
change,
it
often
is
a
wise
financial
decision
to
create
a
carbon
neutral
building.
B
P
Thank
you.
I
have
a
question
so
because
there's
changes
going
on
with
the
mission
and
everybody's
having
all
these
different
plans.
What
plans
do
you
see
with
the
older
buildings
and
being
able
to
switch,
and
it's
going
to?
I
know
it's
going
to
be
expensive
from
the
older
buildings
to
change
to
electricity,
or
are
you
excluding
them
and
some
of
the
homes
as
well,
because
it
will
be
expensive
and
are
you
giving
incentives
for
those
that
do
to
do
this
swap
out.
O
Yeah
thanks
leslie,
the
you.
That's
a
really
good
observation.
New
buildings
are
an
easy
part
of
our
climate
action
plan
because
the
technology
is
available
and
it
is
can
be
cost
effective,
especially
when
you
take
into
account
count
the
cost
of
carbon
to
make
those
carbon
neutral,
or
at
least
very,
very
low.
Carbon
emitting
existing
buildings,
as
you
point
out,
are
much
more
difficult,
there's
so
many
of
them
in
the
city,
and
there
are
so
few
opportunities
for
us
to
either
regulate
or
incentivize
those
buildings
to
become
carbon
free.
O
That
is
probably
the
most
difficult
question
and
there's
no
great
answer
for
it.
When
it
comes
to
meeting
our
climate
goals,
there's
a
lot
of
different
programs,
we
can
create
and
we
are
implementing
some
of
them
right
now
for
commercial
buildings
in
particular,
we
have
a
green
cost
share
program
where
we
provide
incentives
to
buildings
that
are
going
to,
in
particular,
swap
out
equipment,
hvc
equipment
for
more
fuel,
efficient
equipment,
but
we're
looking
also
at
ways
we
may
have
to.
O
We
may
have
to
incentivize
not
just
efficiency,
but
also
decarbonization
in
particular,
but
that
requires
a
lot
of
money
and
then
also
when
it
comes
to.
We
have
a
lot
of
single
family
homes
or
duplex
and
triplexes,
and
that's
what
I
spend
a
lot
of
my
day.
Thinking
about
is
what
we
can
do
there.
O
O
And
that
is
financially
difficult
to
do
with
existing
buildings
right
now.
Another
thing:
that's
on
the
horizon:
the
city
is
actively
looking
into
with
center
point.
Energy
is
what,
if
you
replace
fossil
gas
aka
natural
gas
with
a
different
type
of
gas,
be
it
gas
from
biological
sources
or
even
by
putting
some
hydrogen
into
the
system
which
is
made
via
renewable
electricity.
P
No
thank
you
that
was
very
interesting.
B
I
The
question
that
I
put
in
the
chat
is
what
is,
and
I
think
he
used
the
word
climate
cost
of
carbon.
I'm
not
sure
if
I
got
those
words
right.
What
is
it
in
terms
of
a
therm
of
natural
gas?
In
other
words,
we
can
price
a
therm
of
natural
gas
looking
at
our
gas
bills
and
how
many
therms
it
is
that
we
pay
so
much
for
so.
Is
there
a
number
then
of
the
climate
cost
of
carbon
or
whatever
you
were
talking
about.
G
O
I
O
The
cost
of
carbon
that
the
city's
established
is
about
it,
I
think,
we're
at
42
or
43
dollars
a
short
time
in
2021,
and
I
might
know
this
too.
They
helped
fresh
energy
help
some
calculations
on
this,
but
if
I
recall
correctly
to
put
that
in
perspective
in
natural
gas,
if
you
assign
to
natural
gas
the
impact
it
had
on
the
climate
based
on
the
social
cost
of
carbon,
it
would
increase
the
cost
of
natural
gas.
O
By
about
a
third,
I
believe,
compared
to
electricity,
if
you
assigned
to
electricity
its
impact,
it
would
increase
the
cost
of
electricity
by,
I
believe,
a
tenth.
So
in
that
respect,
natural
gas
impact
of
natural
gas
under
our
environment
is
much
under
incorporated
into
the
retail
price
of
gas
that
we
pay
now,
especially
compared
to
electricity.
O
Yes,
yes,
so
that
that's
what
I'm
saying
electricity
is
at
the
current
grid
mix
of
electricity,
which
is
something
like
25
or
so
renewable
from
excel.
I
So
I'm
very
interested
in
hydrogen
are
even
advertisements
to
buy
stock,
and
you
know
companies
are
doing
this
because
it's
the
green
gas,
the
future
and
all
this
according
to
these
ads,
so
tell
us
more.
If
you
can
about
what
your
plans
would
be
to
do,
that,
use
hydrogen
more,
it
would
supply
it
to
homes
through
the
regular
pipes
that
natural
gas
is
supplied
or
what.
O
The
idea
for
hydrogen
is
that
it
could
be
created
by
guess
what
they
call
cracking
water,
so
you
take
remove
electricity.
You
basically
separate
water
into
its
elements.
You
create
a
hydrogen
gas
so
that
hydrogen
gas
is
created
with
zero
carbon
and
then
you
can
inject
that
into
the
methane
gas
system.
That's
the
natural
gas
system
we
have
now,
but
you
can't
just
fully
replace
it
because
of
you.
Just
can't
run
it
through
normal
piping.
O
Yeah
and
you
would
have
to
change
out
the
burners
that
burn
it's
so
there's
an
estimate
that
something
I
believe
like
5
to
15
of
gas
in
terms
of
parts
per
million
or
by
volume
could
be
displaced
by
hydrogen
and,
above
that
we
start
running
into
problems
with
the
existing
infrastructure
being
able
to
accept
it.
I
And
you
recognize
that
right.
Well,
hydrogen
you!
You
can
buy
cylinders
of
hydrogen
right
now
to
use
for
welding
and
other
industrial
uses,
but
that
has
been
made
that
has
been
made
from
natural
gas
with
the
application
of
other
energy.
So
the
economical
way
of
producing
hydrogen
right
now
is
is
that
which
is
not
carbon,
neutral
and
yeah?
Theoretically,
you
can
stick
electrodes
into
the
mississippi
river
and
produce
hydrogen,
but.
L
Thanks
so
much
luke
for
being
here
and
for
the
presentation,
I
really
appreciate
it
and
I
think
the
the
answer
you
gave
around
buildings
being
net
zero
was
was,
I
would
agree
with,
and
to
your
point,
barbara
about
it
being
more
expensive.
I
think
it
is
more
expensive
to
have
a
fully
electric
building,
but
the
elect
air
source,
heat
pumps
and
ground
source
heat
pumps
are
much
different
than
electric
resistance,
which
is
what
we've
used
in
the
past
for
electric
heating.
So
I
think
it
at
this
point.
L
It
will
be
more
expensive,
but
not
as
expensive
as
we
may
associate
electric
heating
with
a
couple
questions,
so
I
may
have
missed
this.
But
in
terms
of
like
updating
the
climate
action
plan,
I
feel
like
we.
I
appreciate
your
presentation,
luke
and
I
feel
like
this.
L
We
really
went
over
a
lot
of
like
high
level
goals,
and
I
know
that
the
city's
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
around
implementation
and
wondering
if
like
if,
if
implement
details
around
implementation,
are
included
in
the
update
to
the
climate
action
plan
or,
if
that's
something
that
you're
still
like
feedback
on
or
if
there's
anything
you
want
to
touch
on
there
and
then
in
terms
of
carbon
reduction,
carbon
reduction
goals.
Are
you
considering
reducing?
L
I
think
it's
80
by
2050
at
this
point
and
the
ipcc
international
plan
on
climate
change
recommends
or
advises
that
we
need
to
reach
net
zero
carbon
emissions
by
2050.
So
I'm
curious
about
how
the
city's
thinking
about
that.
O
We
are
really
the
beginning
of
an
update
to
the
climate
action
plan,
so
anything
that
you
would
all
like
to
suggest
in
terms
of
implementation
or
reporting
is
valuable
information
to
us
so,
and
I
think
you
know
that
might
be
a
good
thing
to
bring
up
in
the
breakout
sessions
and
then
report
back
to
the
big
group.
O
That
is
something
that
we
haven't
done
a
great
job
with
in
the
connection
plan,
and
it
doesn't
really
stipulate
how
we
should
be
reporting
out,
or
at
least
when
it
does.
It's
not
super
clear.
So
that's
a
useful
subject
to
be
talking
about
and
making
recommendations
to
us
terms
of
the
goal.
Know
kim-
and
I
were
just
talking
about
the
80
goal.
You
know
it
was
based
on
old
science
and
old
modeling,
partly
was
also
a
recognition
of
you
know
when
the
conversation
started
about
a
decade
ago.
O
Being,
I
think,
overwhelmed
with
the
idea
of
like
how
do
you
even
get
the
last
molecule
of
gas
out
of
the
system?
We
knew
we
can
decarbonizing
a
lot
with
current
technology,
but
it
was
hard
to
figure
out
how
you
get
to
net
zero.
I
think
with
the
particularly
with
some
of
the
interest
in
hydrogen,
and
maybe
some
rng
or
you
know
other
sources
like
that.
You
start
to
kind
of
see
how
the
math
might
be
able
to
get
to
zero.
O
But
whether
or
not
the
math
is
possible,
it's
something
we
have
to
do
and
strive
for.
I
think
so.
That's
something
we
definitely
would
like
ciac
to
weigh
in
on
is
are
our
goals
right?
Are
they
aggressive
enough?
Are
they
not
aggressive
enough?
You
know
what
what
the
different
opinions
are
or
are
they
too
aggressive?
I
should
have
said.
O
I
do
think
that
there's
definitely
an
opening
for
having
a
net
zero
goal
in
here
and
a
recognition
that
we
may
maybe
don't
have
all
the
answers
now,
but
we're
going
to
have
to
come
up
with
them
if
we
want
to
keep
our
planet
in
some
sort
of
semblance
of
what
we've
all
enjoyed
there
is
leading
up
to
the
next
climate
conference
in
glasgow.
O
There
is
now
this:
it's
called
the
race
to
zero
kind
of
initiative
where
there's
a
lot
of
international
organizations
looking
to
get
cities
to
sign
on
to
a
net
zero
by
2050
at
the
latest,
pledge
and
then
interim
targets
prior
to
that.
So
there's
a
growing
movement
among
cities
to
either
adopt
net
zero
goals
or
amend
their
existing
goals
to
now
be
net
zero.
B
Just
with
time,
at
this
point,
we're
gonna
go
with
nick
and
then
leslie
and
then
go
into
breakout
groups.
Unless
mark
you
end
up
hopping
back
into
the
queue
again.
M
Nick
and
mine
is
really
quick.
I
just
wanted
to
add
on
to
the
points
that
luke
was
making
about
about
hydrogen
formed
from
renewable
energy
and
I
think
for
people
to
really
understand
how
all
the
strings
are
tied
to
the
marionette
that
that
hydrogen
isn't
just
about
replacing
gas.
O
B
P
Thank
you
again,
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
I
just
have
a
quick
question:
have
you
created
a
a
model,
a
structural
model,
so
we
can
actually
physically
see
how
this
dream
house
would
be
without
with
the
solar
panels
and
just
pure
electric?
Remember,
I
don't
know
if
you
ever
well
state
fair
and
all
of
them
used
to
have
these
model
homes.
So
how
do
you
put
this
plan
into
a
physical
structure
of
a
model.
O
Yeah
good
question:
leslie
it's
hard
to
kind
of
understand
it
or
even
realize
it's
possible
until
you
see
it
julia.
This
is
probably
a
follow-up
item
for
us
and
kim
knows
more
about
this
than
I
do,
but
we
in
the
sustainability
office
have
helped
provide
some
financial
assistance
to
creating
some
pilot
passive
house
sites
in
minneapolis.
O
Those
are
either
are
or
going
to
be
all
electric
and-
and
I
believe,
may
be
able
to
provide
all
of
their
electricity
needs
from
solar
panels,
but
we
are
providing
assistance
to
do
just
that,
so
that
we
can
have
something
to
show
people
that's
possible
and
part
of
that
also
is
doing.
O
An
economic
analysis
of
I
know
to
barbara's
concerns
like
the
economics
of
building,
like
that,
using
current
construction
costs
and
current
electricity
and
gas
costs,
and
things
like
that,
so
we
can
follow
up
with
more
information
and
kim
will
know
a
little
bit
more
of
where
the
status
is
on
those
pilot
projects.
D
B
All
right
so
now
we're
going
to
be
breaking
into
small
groups,
and
I
have
a
feeling
that
it
is
just
going
to
be
random,
so
somebody,
I
would
say,
there's
a
list
of
different
questions
in
the
agenda
if
you
feel
like
you're,
not
answering
one
of
them
move
on
to
another
one,
if
you
only
get
through
one
of
the
questions,
that's
fine
at
least
we're
getting
started
in
talking
about
the
climate
action
plan,
so
I'm
going
to
turn
it
on
over
to
julia
to
master
us
into
rooms.
However,
that
works
and
teams.
A
Yeah,
how
many
rooms
would
you
like,
or
maybe
how
many
people
per
room
and
we
can
figure
out
how
many
rooms
based
on.
A
I
A
All
right,
it
looks
like
everyone
has
gone
into
their
rooms
except
the
four
folks
on
the
phone
and
leslie
who's.
Just
at
it
again,
so
I
may
need
a
moment
to
send
you
there
manually.
R
I
R
A
A
Gonna
say
I
can
try
to
move
you
leslie,
but
honestly,
I'm
not
entirely
sure
how.
P
A
Yeah,
since
y'all
are
on
the
phone,
do
you
want
to
go
around
and
say
names
really
quickly?
Just
so,
we
know
who
we're
all
chatting
with.
H
P
Me
leslie
north
north
side,
minneapolis,
okay,.
R
G
P
A
Hi
sandy
for
the
folks
on
the
phone
sandy's
back
in
our
room
with
us.
Were
you
booted
out
of
yours,
or
did
you
lose
connection
or
something.
A
I
I've
been
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
because
leslie
also
well
leslie
got
kind
of
kicked
out
and
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
put
you
back
in
your
room.
So
I'm
still
working
on
that.
Sorry
about
that.
But
in.
R
And
then
we
have
lee
on
the
phone
with
the
with
the
the
many
of
energy
options
or
the
community
power.
C
Yes,
lee
with
community
power
and
I'm
in
ward
12,
just
just
south
of
corcoran
or
east
of
bancroft.
A
Sorry
to
interrupt
again
hi
anna
sandy
and
you
anna
and
leslie,
were
all
supposed
to
be
in
the
room.
Sandy
just
came
back
in
so
if
you
have
a
notification
that
can
tell
you
to
go
to
your
room
again,
sorry
that
sounded
sound,
but
that
might
work.
L
Okay,
cool
yeah,
my
computer
crashed
like
right
before
we
got
sent,
so
I
don't
see
a
notification
at
this
point.
L
R
P
I
graduated
from
the
u
and
I
was
interested
in
changing
the
salt
on
the
roads
and
probably
using
that
mixture
that
they
use
with
beet
juice.
And
when
I
talk
to
the
people
at
the:
u
who
do
the
salt
they?
They
said
it
would
stay
in
the
streets
which
I
thought
was
quite
interesting
because
you
got
paint
all
over
sidewalks
and
everything
else,
and
I
don't
know
what
the
big
deal
with
the
beet
juice
is
because
I've
been
to
chicago.
P
R
Then
we
can
not
only
get
minneapolis
on
track
to
get
needed,
scrubbing
goals.
We
can
get
the
entire
county,
all
the
cities,
and
you
know
it
would
ramp
up
to
the
metro
wide
so
like
keeping
an
eyeball
on
all
other
cities
can
copy
good
ideas
like
we're
doing
with
the
energy
benchmarking
ordinance
that
other
cities
are
copying.
P
That's
in
radius
of
this.
This
factory
and
nobody's
benefited
really
from
it,
except
for
the
high-end
people
that
have
a
gap
in
taxes,
because
I
know
that
they
they
over
by
luring
park
those
residents
get
the
benefit
from
the
herc
underground
steam
that
that
generates.
That
heat,
because
I
yeah
luckily.
R
So
I
think
that
would
be
a
great
like.
I
don't
know
if
you
know
there's
a
zero
waste
part
of
the
climate
action
plan,
probably,
but
how
to
like
team
that
up
with
efforts
within
the
county,
to
shift
to
different
technologies
to
get
rid
of
the
hurricane
to
reduce
the
amount
of
waste?
So
we
don't
have
any
landfilling.
P
H
P
R
R
World
teams
like
trying
to
you
know,
go
on
zero
waste,
producing
the
road
salt
working
on
that
zero
buildings,
and
so
that
that's
where
I
think
it
doesn't
really
hurt.
If
the
city
and
the
county
have
separate
climate
action
plans,
the
key
thing
is
is
making
sure
enough.
Different
city
county
teams
get
going,
especially
because
a
lot
of
other
cities
need
to
get
in
gear
and
they
can
really
benefit
from
momentum.
You
know.
Q
P
So
these
people
the
permits
that
the
pollution
control
changes
and
that's
where
the
permits,
major
ones
that
affect
a
lot
of
these
businesses
come
from
because
they
have
to
file
for
the
city
and
this
you
know
different
entities
to
get
these
permits
and
that's
where
changes
need
to
come
for
the
permits
for
the
emissions
for
these
people
that
don't
have
permits,
that's
been
grandfathered
and
all
the
other
technicalities
that
prevent
things
from
being
regulated.
P
We
understand
why
the
water
with
the
e
coli,
the
lakes,
are
closed
because
of
the
farmlands
that
we
have,
but
then
there's
other
things
that
we
can
do
that
affect
our
health
and
that's
where
these
laws
and
permits
need
to
be
changed,
and
that
should
be
the
focus
and
everybody
can
say.
Well
this,
what
we're
going
to
do
and
change
electricity
and
this
and
that,
but
without
these
laws
and
permits
being
changed,
you
can
say
it
all.
You
want.
We
can
pick
up
the
ball
and
still
let
it
drive.
P
If
you
go
look
back
in
history
when
they
kept
saying
this
and
re
re
amending
it
nothing,
you
know
they
do
little
bits
and
pieces
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
something
happens.
So
it
never
really
completes,
goes
to
full
circle,
and
then
we
have
a
big
mess.
P
We
only
have
so
many
inspectors
that
come
out
and
regulate
things,
and
then
we
depend
on
these
building
owners
or
whoever
to
regulate
themselves,
and
it's
not
happening
so
that's
where
we're
sick
and
we
see
this
mess
and
we
have
a
big
hot
mess
running
in
our
lakes
and
streams
and
and
in
our
communities,
the
soil
and
the
dirt
in
the
air.
So
until
change
comes
on
that
level,
we
can
say
what
we
want
to
see
in
these
plants,
but
until
they
really
have
the
people
to
enforce
it,
it
doesn't
mean
a
thing.
R
Yeah,
that's
great,
I
know
that's
one
of
the
issues
also
with
the
senegal
environmental
assessment,
we're
reviewing
for
the
potential
water
yard
thing
over
at
east
phillips,
so
yeah.
I
think
the
good
news
is
that
to
the
margaret
anderson
calher,
the
mndot
commissioner
is
starting
up
a
new
inter-jurisdictional
coordination
thing
between
the
state
agencies
that
council
hannah
county,
so
minneapolis
could
tie
into
that
to
try
to,
like
you
know,
negotiate
with
these
other
entities.
R
H
C
Actually,
going
to
to
come
up
to
a
vote
sometime
like
the
phillips.
R
C
H
H
C
I've
got
a
meeting
with
goodman
on
the
27th,
all
right
and,
and
anyway,
is
there
a
and
and
also
is
is,
is
kim
haiti
like
totally
not
going
to
be
in
the
sustainability
department,
the
the
email
I
got
just
said
he
had
a.
He
got
some
position.
G
C
It
with
the
with
the
white
house
and.
A
Yeah
I
can
speak
to
that.
This
is
julia.
Yeah
kim
is
going
to
continue
with
all
his
work
in
sustainability
in
minneapolis
and
he's
just
been
appointed
to
advisory
committee.
So,
like
you
guys
do
this
committee
on
your
kind
of
off
hours,
he
I
mean
that's
where
he
is
right
now
he's
joining
an
advisory
committee
to
the
white
house.
C
H
P
R
A
You'd
think
I
would
be
a
good
line
to
the
inner
workings
of
the
city,
but
I
I
am
you
know
I
don't
know
all
the
details
of
of
the
higher
up
things.
R
And
another
area,
I'm
not
sure
whether
the
city,
you
know,
and
the
climate
action
plan
has
all
the
job,
creation
and
business
small
business
creation
aspects
and
written
into
the
climate
action
plan
how
to
deal
with
ramping
up.
You
know
minority
businesses
on
weatherization
and
solar
and
other,
like
whatever
green
infrastructure,
things.
P
Can
I
can,
I
ask
you
guys
something:
how
would
you
interact
with
the
community
to
improve
community
engagement
because
I
think
that
all
of
us
work
in
all
these
different
organizations
and
it's
about
the
community
that
we're
working
for
and
a
community
don't
know
nothing
about
us.
So
how
would
we
get
them
to
know?
What's
going
on.
R
Well,
I
mean
one
way:
is
we
have
a
a
coalition
of
all
the
minneapolis
neighborhoods
that
have
environmental
committees?
Then
they
get
things
out
for
their
neighborhood
via
their
newsletters
and
things.
But
you
know
we
can
also
get
news
out
via
black
leaders
and
different
cultural
groups,
but
it
it's
you
know.
R
R
Anyway,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
ways.
I
don't
know.
Do
you
have
other
ideas?
Let's
leave
how
to
generate
moment.
You
know
visibility
and
participation
with
different
communities
and
residents.
P
About
the
police,
they
got
defunded.
If
you
didn't
know
so,
their
activities
within
the
community
has
deceased.
Okay.
We
have
none
of
that
going
on
anymore.
So
now
it's
another
avenue
where
we
have
to
brainstorm
within
ourselves-
and
I
don't
know
because
we
have
covet
now
and
a
lot
of
people
aren't
really
some
of
them
do
zoom
meetings.
They
do
them
on
facebook
and
things
like
that,
but
as
far
as
the
police
being
involved,
you
have
to
kind
of
get
that
out
of
a
picture
because
they
got
a
lot
of
things.
P
Defunded
and
a
lot
of
people
didn't
realize
that
my
the
apartment
building
I
lived
in
the
mailboxes
got
broken
into
and
the
city
attorney
got
turned
over
to
them
and
they
told
the
people
that
it's
not
a
felony
and
they
don't
look
into
things
like
that
and
they
got
other
things
going
on,
so
any
kind
of
crime,
that's
minor
to
them,
they're,
not
even
coming
to
look
at
it.
If
you
live
in
a
city,
so
we
won't
talk
about
the
police
right
now.
Oh.
P
That
your
neighborhood's
different
than
my
neighborhood-
I
don't
know
if
you
keep
up
with
the
activities
or
have
crime
watch,
but
north
minneapolis
is
under
siege
by
drive-by
shooters
people
pulling
guns
on
you
taking
your
automobile
and
literally
harm
armed
robbering
you
so
as
far
as
activities
go
besides
everybody
protesting
in
brooklyn
center
and
downtown,
I
don't
think
too
many
people
of
north
really
want
to
come
out
to
too
much
of
things
without
being
kind
of
paranoid
about
a
drive-by
shooting
or
things
like
that
right
now,
so
those
kind
of
activities
in
my
neighborhood
is
kind
of
like.
P
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
happen,
so
I'm
hoping
for
the
better
of
the
whole
city.
So
things
like
that
would
be
hard
at
this
time
for
north
minneapolis
to
have
any
kind
of
out
engagements
without
being
paranoid.
P
C
R
Why
I
do
know
a
lot
of
we
had
a
huge
amount
of
north
side.
Neighborhoods
participate
in
the
litter,
clamps
last
fall
and
they
were
just
a
huge
earth
day
cleanup.
You
know
on
the
north
side,
with
people
out
like
roman
lowry
or
something
I
just
saw
that
post
on
that.
So
there
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
people
getting
out
to
do
things
in
the
north
side.
R
You
know,
but
I
I'm
not
sure
which
neighborhoods
got
any
of
the
funding
for
the
whatever
the
divine
violence.
Interrupters
thing
that
I've
been
waiting
here
at
lincoln
highway
store
the
neighborhood.
You
know
it's
had
with
excitement,
you
know
and.
P
Thank
you.
They
just
ride
it
again.
I
think
last
week,
brooklyn
center,
when
the
police
killed
that
young
guy,
when
the
trial
was.
R
P
On
so
they
tore
up
broadway
and
they
were
even
shooting
at
the
national
guards
over
there.
So
again,
I
don't
think
they
give
you
the
information,
what's
really
happening
in
the
community
over
north.
R
The
universe
and
south
side-
and
I
do
I
do
think
it
would
be
very
valuable
to
just
see
how
the
office
of
violence
prevention
and
their
efforts
can
tie
in
with
the
act,
because
people
getting
to
know
each
other
is
you
know,
a
key
part
of
a
resilience
and
all
that.
A
Just
to
give
you
guys
a
time
check,
sorry,
I
haven't
been
giving
them
throughout,
but
I'm
going
to
call
everyone
back
in
about
a
minute.
So.
P
It
was
going
down
and
then
it
went
back
up
a
few
years
ago.
The
police
killed
another
person
on
plymouth
avenue
and
it
it's
history
repeating
itself
and
they
could
have
made
changes
then,
but
they
didn't
so
right
now,
since
the
riot
and
the
police
defunding,
the
north
side
has
been
under
siege
by
teenagers,
doing
whatever
they
do
drive
down
the
street
shooting
at
each
other,
like
they're
in
the
wild
west.
P
R
You
know
it's
very
intense
here
I
can.
I
can
try
to
send
you
a
note
really
about
what's
happening
with
our
safety.
You
know
groups
down
here,
we're
on
power
and
corcoran.
What's
your
last
name,
there
leslie.
P
Jackson,
I'm
I'm
familiar
with
that,
I'm
in
another
group
and
some
of
them,
I
I
get
invited
to
a
lot
of
stuff
with
the
police
and
my
my
thing
with
all
that
is
I
just
just
watch
stuff
and
just
keep
praying.
I
don't
want
to
be
involved
in
that.
My
my
whole
thing
is
about
a
different
environmental
issue
and
justice,
but
thank
you.
A
E
A
Is
in
my
group
just
to
let
you
know,
everyone
else
is
back
in
the
room
now,
so
I
think
we're
gonna
keep
moving.
B
B
R
R
Anyway,
this
is
sean
and
from
our
little
phone
group
here
we
noticed
that
there's
some
needs
for
collaborating
between
minneapolis
and
the
hennepin
county,
especially
like
working
on
trying
to
transition
away.
You
know
turning
off
the
hurt
and
moving
towards
zero
waste
more
rapidly
and
then
there
you
know
a
number
of
other
actions
in
the
minneapolis
climate
action
plan
are
also
in
the
hennepin
county
climate
action
plan.
So
we
could
ramp
up
more
ways
that
cities
could
get
this
stuff
done
across
the
county
and
across
the
metro
to
achieve
the
climate
goals.
K
I
was
just
gonna
say
we
got
cut
off
at
the
end
of
our
group,
but
we
were
talking
about
requirements
for
new
construction
and
making
sure
that,
even
if
they
don't
implement
say
having
a
solar
roof
right
away.
That
they're
at
least
prepared
to
do
that-
and
I
was
just
gonna.
Add
to
that
that
there
needs
to
be
some
accountability.
For
that.
K
M
So
in
in
our
group,
we
spent
a
bit
of
time
talking
about
actually
toyota
brought
up
the.
I
think
it
was
the
was.
You
said,
the
climate
report
card.
M
So
we
talked
about
things
on
the
sustainable
agriculture
side
that
the
city
could
do
through.
You
know
encouraging
encouraging
local
production
so
at
the
minneapolis
farmers
market,
not
having
pineapples
and
bananas
anymore,
but
rather
trying
to
encourage
people
to
bring
goods
that
are
produced
locally
and
ultimately
allowing
local
agriculture
in
areas
surrounding
minneapolis
to
capture
more
of
the
margin.
M
So
it
can
help
provide
a
better
revenue
stream
and
keep
that
that
available
and
ultimately
reduce
carbon
from
transportation
and
production
that
whether
the
city
is
able
to
account
for
that
directly
or
if
it's
just
an
indirect
effect,
it's
still
a
climate
action.
That
was
one
example.
Are
there
any
others?
I
talked
a
little
bit
about
for
forestry
too.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
talk
about
that.
E
Yeah,
so
we
talked
a
bit
about
like
sequestration
of
carbon
with
forests
and
how
forest
canopy
is
still
very
important
in
urban
areas.
One
of
course
to
be
to
reduce
the
heat
island
effect,
and
this
greenery
can
also
be
like
through
green
roofing
and
other
green
spaces,
as
well
as
like
improving
for
residential
or
commercial
areas
like
helping
like
decrease
the
amount
of
heat
that
is
coming
in
with
the
use
of
the
shade,
and
it
also
helps
with
some
storm
water
runoff
as
well.
L
Has
yeah
I'd
be
happy
to
jump
in
first?
It
was
really
fun
to
talk
in
the
small
group,
so
it
was
like
very
engaging
and
nice
to
be
face
to
face
with
folks
who
haven't
been
face
to
face
with
before,
but
we
talked
about
a
bunch
of
stuff,
including
we're
talking
about
transparency
in
terms
of
reporting,
so
talking
about
where
you
know,
funding
for
sustainability
implementation
is
coming
from
geographically,
where
it's
being
spent
reporting
around
demographics
of
who's,
benefiting
from
it
and
related
to
like
energy
efficiency
and
climate
equity.
L
We're
talking
about
how
energy
efficiency
upgrades
are
really
important
in
reducing
energy
burden
for
low-income
households,
but
it's
a
really
sort
of
like
invasive
process,
so
making
sure
that
folks,
who
are
implementing
energy
efficiency
that
there's
ways
to
you
know
they
speak
multiple
languages.
There's
like
cultural
access
and
bridges
to
make
sure
not
just
native
english
speakers
are
benefiting
from
that
from
those
benefits
or
energy
efficiency
upgrades.
B
All
right,
so
as
we're
working
on
wrapping
up
here,
I
will
say
that
this
climate
action
plan
will
be
an
ongoing
discussion
here
with
ziac,
and
I
think
some
of
it
will
be
kind
of
focused
based
on
some
of
the
needs
that
the
sustainability
division
has
as
they're
working
on
developing
it.
So
thank
you
for
this
initial
round
of
ideas.
I
don't
entirely
know
what
some
of
our
future
conversations
will
look
like,
but
just
know
that
there
will
be
more.
B
Are
there
any
particular
updates?
People
have
on
particular
events
or
other
things
that
are
happening
in
the
next
month,
or
so.
L
If
you
want
to
weigh
in
on
the
hennepin
county
climate
action
plan,
there's
a
survey
available,
it's
open
until
noon
tomorrow
and
I
can
drop
the
link
in
the
chat
there.
They'll
be
voting
on
it
on
the
27th.
L
J
B
B
So
we'll
definitely
have
that
flagged
in
terms
of
future
ciac
meeting
topics
so
for
next
month
mark
is
gonna.
Give
a
presentation
on
science-based
targets
around
well
science-based
targets
around
climate
change
based
on
some
of
the
work
that
he
does
at
cummins.
D
B
And
then
the
other
thing
that's
listed
on
here,
but
I
haven't
had
much
of
a
chance
to
talk
to
kim
about
this.
I
don't
know
anna
if
you
and
kim
spoke
about
this
during
the
time
that
I
was
not
in
the
meeting,
but
the
city
enterprise,
green
building
policy
looks
like
it
might
be
another
topic
at
a
future
meeting.
Don't
know
if
that'll
be
the
may
meeting
or
a
future
future
one
and
then,
in
terms
of
with
the
st
anthony
falls.
B
B
N
B
This
is
something
that
I
will
make
sure
to
look
into
and
if
it
is
something
that
we
need
to
have
more
thoughts
on
by
june
or
something
we
might
have,
that
included
in
the
may
meeting,
but
do
know
that
that
will
be
coming
at
some
point
as
well
all
right
and
then
there
are
just
a
few
announcements,
as
you
all
know,
from
the
calendar,
invitation,
changes
and
stuff
kim
wasn't
able
to
be
here
today,
because
he
was
appointed
to
the
white
house,
environmental
justice,
advisory
council,
and
that
meeting
is
happening
at
the
same
time
as
this
one
for
those
who've
heard
about
our
car
for
well.
B
For
those
who
don't
know
about
our
car,
our
car
is
a
non-profit
organization
here
in
the
twin
cities
that
does
car
sharing.
So
our
car
is
launching
an
exciting
new
project
which
will
provide
shared
evs
and
ev
charging
infrastructure
to
residents
of
apartments
and
condominiums
where
none
is
currently
available.
B
The
project,
including
the
cost
of
construction
and
cost
of
the
vehicles,
will
be
significantly
underwritten
by
a
partnership
between
our
car
and
excel
energy,
with
support
from
the
us
department
of
energy
and
it's
available
at
a
very
low
cost
to
participating
host
sites.
So
if
you
happen
to
be
in
a
multi-family
property
or
own,
a
multi-family
property,
or
anything
like
that,
feel
free
to
get
in
touch
with,
I
don't
know
if
it
would
be
a
kim
or
who
could
direct
you
to
figure
out.
You
know
what
your
options
would
be
and
like.
B
B
It
is
listed
under
the
announcements
in
the
agenda
julia.
Can
you
just
make
sure
that
when
the
announcements
come
out
in
an
email
like
in
the
next
day
or
two,
we
just
paste
that
announcement
into
the
sure
email,
perfect?
R
Oh
guard,
just
the
prince
of
lake
hatta,
is
still
encouraging.
Siac
to
you
know,
communicate
with
the
park
board
to
just
you
know.
Finally,
approve
the
the
master
plan.
Philly
kind
of
also
to
you
know,
mitigate
all
the
pollution
coming
in
from
the
earth
pipe
and
the
master
plan
did
not
pass
about
a
week
or
two
ago
and
they're
trying
to
change
the
plan
a
bit,
so
it
can
pass
with
fewer
votes.
R
But
currently
it's
a
bit
all
you
know
all
the
funding
that
the
city
and
the
county
want
to.
In
the
watershed
to
help
clean
up
lake
county
water
is
being
stalled
because
the
new
master
plan
for
the
park
is
is
not
been
approved
yet
so
we're
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
get
enough
votes
on
the
park
where
to
get
it
through.
K
Yeah
we
talked
last
time
about
the
metro
transit
buses
issue.
I
just
keep
snoozing
the
emails
that
I
have
about
that,
but
I
don't
know
if
we
might
be
able
to
follow
up
on
that
next
meeting.
Okay
and
then
just
something
that
occurred
to
me
as
the
weather
is
hopefully
getting
nicer.
K
I
have
no
idea
what
the
status
of
the
scooter
share.
Programs
in
minneapolis
is
these
days,
but
the
way
that
I've
heard
that
they
get
charged
is
pretty
not
climate,
friendly
or
environmentally
friendly
with
having
contractors
just
go
willy-nilly,
pick
them
up
and
charge
all
of
them.
So
I
wondered
if
we
seems
like
something
we
could
cover
in.
Maybe
a
single
meeting
find
out
what
the
status
of
that
is.
H
B
I
was
gonna
say
well,
I
don't
know
that
I've
seen
any
of
the
scooters
quite
yet.
I
have
seen
some
of
the
lift
bicycles
around,
so
I
think
that
they're
they're
coming
so
okay,
so
I've
got
the
metro,
transit
buses,
the
falls
and
charging
scooters
on
my
list
of
future
things
for
discussion.
B
Okay,
assuming
there
isn't
anything
else,
I
would
make
a
motion
that
we
adjourn.
Anybody
want
a
second.
B
Also,
I
think
this
is
toya.
Okay,
a
second
thing
is
there
anybody
who
is
opposed.