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From YouTube: March 16, 2021 Heritage Preservation Commission
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B
Good
evening
welcome
to
the
live
broadcast
to
the
regular
virtual
meeting
of
the
heritage
preservation.
Commission
today
is
march
16th
2021..
B
This
meeting
includes
the
remote
participation
of
board
members
and
staff
as
authorized
under
minnesota
statute,
section
13d
0.021
due
to
the
declared
local
health
pandemic.
The
city
will
be
recording
and
posting
this
meeting
to
the
city's
website
and
youtube
channel
as
a
means
of
increasing
the
public
access
and
transparency.
This
meeting
is
public
and
subject
to
the
minnesota
open
meeting
law.
For
the
record,
my
name
is
ken
daler.
I
am
the
man
manager
of
legislative
support
services
with
the
office
of
the
city
clerk.
B
I
am
convening
today's
meeting
in
order
to
conduct
elections
for
the
heritage
preservation
commission's
chair
vice
chair
and
secretary
once
the
body
has
approved
elected
candidates
to
those
positions.
I
will
turn
the
chair
over
to
the
body's
newly
elected
chair
at
this
time.
I
will
call
the
meeting
to
order.
Will
the
clerk
please
call
the
rule
to
verify
the
presence
of
a
quorum.
D
D
E
C
B
Let
the
record
reflect
that
we
do
have
quorum
with
that.
We
will
proceed
to
the
agenda,
a
copy
of
which
was
posted
for
public
access
to
the
city's
legislative
information
management
system,
which
is
available
at
limbs
lims.minneapolismn.gov
on
tonight's
agenda.
We
do
have
one
item
number
six
under
public
hearing,
which
I
understand,
staff
has
recommended.
We
pull
that
item
for
consent
unless
there
are
any
members
of
the
public
here
who
would
like
to
discuss
that
item
or
speak
against
approving
that
item,
we
will
move
that
item
to
consent.
B
All
right,
seeing
no
one,
may
I
have
a
motion
to
adopt
the
agenda,
including
moving
item
number
six
to
the
consent
agenda.
G
K
L
M
B
B
G
K
G
C
B
That
motion
carries
and
the
minutes
are
accepted.
Commissioners,
the
next
item
of
business
before
us
is
the
election
of
a
chair.
Vice
chair
and
secretary
of
this
body
at
the
march
2nd
meeting
commissioners
were
directed
to
email,
any
nominations
to
secretary
sandbolt.
The
nominations
that
have
been
submitted
are
as
follows:
sundberg
was
nominated
for
chair,
barbara
howard
and
claire
vanderek
were
nominated
for
vice
chair
and
kimberly.
Sandbolt
was
nominated
for
secretary.
B
I
will
proceed
through
each
office
in
that
order.
Chair
vice
chair,
then
secretary.
I
will
ask
the
body
for
any
discussion
on
the
nominations
and
then
I
will
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
role
on
those
nominations.
A
majority
vote
is
required
for
election
for
any
office.
With
multiple
nominations.
I
will
take
up
those
nominations
in
alphabetical
order.
I
will
proceed
through
the
nominations.
Until
a
commissioner
has
been
elected
to
the
position
we
will
begin
with.
The
election
of
a
chair,
madeleine
sundberg,
is
the
only
nomination
for
chair.
G
K
B
You
both
fantastic
that
motion
carries,
and
commissioner
sunberg
has
been
elected.
Chair
next
will
be
the
election
of
a
vice
chair.
We
have
two
nominations
for
the
role
of
vice
chair,
barbara
howard
and
claire
vanderek
have
both
been
nominated
for
the
role.
I
will
first
give
each
candidate
the
opportunity
to
speak
if
they
would
like
to
to
provide
any
comments
to
the
commission
about
their
nominations,
so
I
will
go
through
them
in
alphabetical
order
and
the
first
one
is
commissioner
howard.
N
Good
evening,
everyone
I
wasn't
expecting
to
have
to
speak
tonight
until
I
got
the
email
earlier,
so
I
don't
have
anything
prepared,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
it's
been
an
honor
to
be
the
vice
chair
in
this
past
year,
which
has
been
extremely
strange
with
all
the
things
that
have
happened
in
minneapolis
that
we've
all
been
through
a
lot.
N
I
know
that
both
commissioner
vanderek
and
I
have
a
sense
that
we
want
to
move
the
commission
towards
being
more
inclusive
and
to
try
to
bring
the
community
together
through
the
work
that
we
do.
So
I
think,
whether
you
vote
for
me
or
vote
for
commissioner
vanderrike
we're
going
to
be
headed
in
a
good
direction.
H
Yeah,
I
would
like
to
echo
what
commissioner
howard
said
and
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
nominated
and
it's
a
it's
an
honor
to
be
nominated
alongside
commissioner
howard,
with
her
extensive
knowledge
and
experience,
so
appreciate
just
the
opportunity
to
be
on
the
ballot
with
you.
So
thank
you
guys
for
the
opportunity
and
look
forward
to
serving
in
whatever
role
that
the
commission
prefers.
So
thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner
vanderick.
Is
there
any
discussion
from
other
commissioners
on
on
these.
B
I
am
not
seeing
any
so
we
will
proceed
to
the
election
of
of
the
commissioner
vice
chair,
as
I
mentioned,
I
will
take
these
nominations
in
alphabetical
order
and
once
a
candidate
has
received
a
majority
that
candidate
is
elected
and
we
will
proceed
to
the
election
as
secretary,
so
we
will
begin
with
commissioner
howard
clerk.
Please
call
the
roll
on
the
nomination
of
commissioner
howard,
as
vice
chair.
K
K
G
F
B
That
motion
carries
and
commissioner
howard
is
elected
vice
chair,
we
will
now
proceed
to
the
nomination
of
secretary
kimberly.
Sandbolt
has
been
nominated
for
secretary.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
the
nomination
of
commissioner
sandbolt
seeing
none?
I
will
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
role
on
commissioner
sandbolt's
nomination
for
secretary.
G
C
H
B
That
motion
carries
and
commissioner
sandbolt
is
elected
as
secretary.
Congratulations
to
all
the
newly
elected
officers,
and
I
will
now
turn
the
meeting
over
to
chair
sunberg.
I
Thank
you
before
I
begin
with
the
public
hearing.
Let
me
summarize
the
process
for
conducting
the
public
hearing
in
this
virtual
format.
I
First,
we
will
act
on
the
consent
agenda
that
we
set
and
once
the
consent
agenda
items
are
approved,
the
commission
is
done
with
those
items
and
applicants
may
contact
planning
staff
tomorrow
about
next
steps.
After
the
consent
agenda
items
are
approved,
we'll
take
each
remaining
agenda
item
in
order.
First
planning
staff
will
present
its
report
and
commissioners
may
ask
questions
of
staff.
Then
you'll
hear
from
the
applicant
and
commissioners
may
ask
questions
of
the
applicant.
I
I
I
Seeing
none,
I
will
now
close
the
public
hearing
on
the
consent
agenda
items.
May
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
staff
findings
and
recommendations
for
these
items,
vander
egg
soul
moves.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Vanderag.
Is
there
a
second
johnson
seconds?
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Johnson.
Any
discussion.
I
Seeing
none
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
role.
G
K
G
K
I
Tenyes,
thank
you
that
motion
passes.
Our
first
discussion
item
is
item
number
five
for
eighteen,
fifth
street
southeast
ward.
Three,
this
is
a
certificate
of
appropriateness.
The
staff
report
will
be
presented
by
rob
skelecki.
O
Good
afternoon,
commissioners,
my
name
is
rob
skelecki
city
planner
in
the
historic
preservation
section
of
cped.
Today,
I'm
presenting
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
application
for
an
exterior
rehabilitation
of
the
property
located
at
418
fifth
street
southeast
in
the
5th
street
southeast
historic
district.
Next
slide,
please,
the
subject:
property
is
a
contributing
resource
in
the
fifth
street
southeast
historic
district,
the
building
was
completed
in
1885
as
a
frame
queen
and
dwelling
by
woodbury
fisk
for
his
daughter,
lizzie
fisk
smith.
O
O
O
O
O
According
to
the
guidelines,
the
overall
integrity
of
the
fifth
street
southeast
historic
district
is
not
changed
by
the
proposed
project
and
the
bulk
of
the
changes
made
to
the
dwelling
are
of
appropriate
material
and
or
profile
for
the
district
next
slide.
Please
staff
found
that
the
alterations
are
consistent
with
the
5th
street
southeast
historic
district
design
guidelines.
O
The
proposed
changes
are
consistent
with
the
scale
and
dimension
guidelines
and
will
not
materially
materially
impair
the
architectural
or
historic
value
of
the
building,
while
the
historic
wood
water
table
trim
has
been
replaced
with
a
synthetic
material
available.
Photos
do
suggest
that
the
previous
wood
was
deteriorated
to
a
point
that
would
allow
for
replacement
the
completed
work
matches.
The
historic
profile
of
the
water
table
trim
replacement
windows
that
are
located
both
on
rear
and
side.
O
O
O
O
The
projected
the
projection
and
facade
guidelines
have
also
been
met
for
the
project.
The
project
includes
the
restoration
of
the
original
transom
window,
as
noted
before,
located
above
the
main
entry
in
this
location,
windows
and
door.
Alterations
in
all
locations
were
installed
using
compatible
materials.
O
O
O
P
I
see
that
in
this
diagram
you
show
the
ceiling
fans.
Do
we
have
any
photos
of
them
as
installed.
O
Thank
you,
commissioner
sample.
That's
a
good
question
staff
noticed
that
there
was
not
a
photo
submitted
of
the
after
work
done
by
the
applicant.
This
was
something
that
staff
noticed
when
inspecting
and
looking
at
the
property.
So
this
is
just
based
on
our
recommendation
here
and
I
apologize
that
we
did
not
notice.
O
There
was
not
a
fan
photo
included
from
after
the
installation,
the
one
you
see
there
is
before,
but
you
know
following
the
installation,
as
as
you've
seen
the
submitted
specification
sheets
for
the
models
they
do
hang
down
to
a
point
that
are
clearly
visible
and
that's
why
staff
has
recommended
that
they
are
less
visible
and
smaller
in
appearance.
I
I
don't
see
any
questions
at
this
time.
Thank
you,
rob
is
the
applicant
here,
and
would
they
like
to
speak?
I
believe
they
are.
If
you
could
press
star
six
on
your
phone
and
then
wait
to
hear
the
pre-recorded
message
before
it
activates
your
microphone.
So
we
can
hear
you
and
then
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
I
Oh,
it
looks
like
maybe
the
applicant
is
not
here
with
that.
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
on
the
item
if
there
are
any
other
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
speak
for
against
this
application.
I
I
Application
this
seemed
like
a
pretty
good
solution
to
me
for
work
that
occurred
luckily
mostly
conforming
with
the
guidelines,
but
you
know
not
quite
in
the
proper
process,
so
I
I
guess
I
thought
that
this
one
changed
to
change
out.
The
fans
was
fairly
reasonable.
All
things
considered,
commissioner
sandol.
P
P
H
Well,
that's
what
I
was
going
to
do
kimberly
is
a
make
a
motion
I
just
wanted
to
yeah.
I
I
don't
have
strong
feelings
about
the
fans
if
the
applicant
had
been
on
and
wanted
to
make
reference
to
why
they
felt
they
wanted
the
fans
or
we
could
have
that
discussion.
I
I
certainly
would
have
been
open
to
hearing
that
so
that
we
would
have
some
reasoning
to
to
disagree
with
staff
findings.
H
Since
we
don't
and
we
haven't
heard
from
the
applicant,
I
would
take
that
to
mean
that
they've
accepted
the
staff
findings.
So
from
that
standpoint
I
am
going
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
based
on
staff
findings.
I
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Sandal.
We
have
a
motion
in
a
second.
I
agree.
I
was
open
open
to
discussion
with
the
applicant
on
if
they
had
some
alternative
feelings,
but
since
they
are
not
here,
I
guess
that
makes
our
job
a
little
bit
easier.
Is
there
any
further
discussion
on
this
item.
K
G
I
O
Again,
I'm
rob
scholecki
city
planner
in
the
historic
preservation
section
of
cped,
I'm
presenting
a
designation
of
the
mary
lochran
student
rooming
homes,
historic
district.
The
district
con
includes
three
dwellings
located
at
1103
4th
street
southeast
406,
11th
avenue,
southeast
and
410
11th
avenue
southeast
next
slide.
Please.
O
On
april
21st
2020,
the
minneapolis
hpc
denied
three
individual
demolition
of
historic
resource
applications
for
the
subject,
properties
established
interim
protection
and
directed
the
planning
director
to
prepare
or
cost
to
be
prepared.
A
designation
study
for
a
potential
historic
district
to
include
these
properties.
The
hpc's
decision
for
each
demolition
was
made
on
the
following
findings.
O
There
are
reasonable
alternatives
to
demolition.
Demolition
is
not
required
to
correct
an
unsafe
condition.
The
exterior
integrity
of
the
properties
is
decent.
Each
building
in
relationship
to
the
other
two
buildings
under
discussion
could
merit
designation
as
non-high
style
residences,
designed
by
william
kenyon
as
spec
properties
that
served
as
dinkytown
neighborhood
served
the
dinkytown
neighborhood
as
student
housing
for
over
a
century.
O
The
hpc's
decisions
to
deny
the
demolition
of
historic
resource
applications
was
ultimately
appealed
and
then
upheld
by
minneapolis
city
council
on
may
22nd
2020.
next
slide.
Please
staff
is
recommending
that
the
mary
lochran
student
rooming
homes,
historic
district,
be
designated
as
a
historic
district.
O
The
subject
dwellings
are
collectively
among
the
best
identified
grouping
of
dwellings
that
retain
their
original
architectural
identity
and
historic
integrity
to
fully
communicate
their
significance.
As
20th
century
student
rooming
homes,
a
type
and
use
of
building,
that's
emblematic
of
the
residential
dinky,
town
and
university
of
minnesota
area,
the
collection
and
location
of
the
dwellings
and
their
shared
development
and
residential
history
is
strongly
tied
to
the
growth
of
the
university
of
minnesota
and
dinky
town
in
the
beginning
of
the
20th
century.
O
In
a
letter
dated
february
22nd
2021
schiphol
provided
comments
in
agreement
with
the
staff
recommending
recommendation
to
designate
the
mary
lochran
student
rooming
homes,
historic
district,
and
they
concluded
that
the
district
was
a
good
candidate
for
local
designation
under
criteria
1
3
and
6.
next
slide.
O
O
O
O
O
The
city
has
not
yet
designated
more
modest
design
interpretations
of
buildings
by
william
kenyon
who's,
a
master
architect,
nor
has
the
city
designated
a
group
of
neighboring
speculatively
developed
properties
by
kenyan
the
histories
of
renters
and
women's
roles
in
property,
development,
ownership
and
management
have
long
been
underrepresented
in
the
body
of
locally
designated
properties
in
the
city.
O
I
I
I
don't
see
any
questions
at
this
time,
so
with
that
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
for
this
item.
I
It
looks
like
we
have
a
pretty
good
sized
list
of
people
here
to
speak
on
this
item
and
I'm
I'm
not
entirely
sure
which
members
of
our
members
of
the
public
and
which
members
are
members
of
the
ownership
team,
so
I'm
going
to
just
go
through
an
order
so
again
I'll
take
the
list
of
preregistered
speakers
in
order
and
then
open
the
public
to
public
comments
who
might
be
in
the
floor
if
you
could
provide
your
name
and
address
before
making
your
comments
for
the
record
and
if
you
press
star
six
on
your
phone
and
wait
to
hear
the
pre-recorded
message
to
activate
the
microphone
so
that
we
can
hear
you.
I
A
R
C
R
Regarding
the
first
designation
criteria
discussed
in
the
staff
report
before
the
hpc
hearing
regarding
demolition
of
these
houses,
I
don't
believe
anyone
had
suggested
that
student
looming
houses
might
be
a
context
of
historic
significance
for
study.
As
I
expressed
during
the
last
hearing,
I
find
it
regrettable
that
city
staff
were
directed
to
spend
time
and
resources
on
evaluating
this
topic
without
discussion
of
whether,
if
of
all
the
possible
contexts
and
previous
contacts
that
have
been
suggested
for
study
were
considered
and
that
whether
this
deserved
to
be
prioritized.
R
But
regardless
of
my
thoughts
on
whether
student
looming
houses
is
a
context
at
merit
study.
The
study
the
city
produced
does
little
to
document
the
history
or
significance
of
student
looming
houses.
The
study
contains
no
inventory
of
historical
and
current
student
rooming
houses.
It
only
mentions
a
few
early
examples,
and
it
therefore
can
provide
no
actual
and
comparative
basis
for
the
assertion,
and
I'm
quoting
here
that
the
subject
dwellings
are
collectively
among
the
best
identified
grouping
of
dwellings
that
retain
their
original
architectural
identity
and
historic
integrity
to
fully
communicate
their
significance
as
student
looming
homes.
R
Even
if
the
study
had
established
student
looming
houses
as
a
significant
pattern
of
social
history,
the
lachlan
houses
were
not
designed
as
rooming
houses
and
they
have
no
exterior
alterations
that
reflect
such
use.
So
they
are
not
able,
as
suggested
by
staff,
to
visually,
communicate
their
significance
as
student
rooming
houses
and.
R
None
of
them
were.
The
study
tries
to
bolster
the
significance
for
the
lachlan
houses
really
was
kind
of
a
proof
by
a
negative
by
asserting
there's,
not
enough
evidence
to
suggest
lachlan
built
the
dwellings
with
the
intent
of
them
remaining
for
single
family
use.
Well,
that's
kind
of
you
know.
How
do
you
prove
that
negative,
but
certainly
the
strongest
and
only
evidence
of
the
originally
intended
use
of
these
buildings
is
their
original
design
and
construction
as
single-family
homes
and
the
identity
of
the
original
renters
who
utilized
these
properties
as
single-family
homes,
the
lochrans.
R
C
R
They
are
applying
that
criteria
so
broadly
so,
generally
as
to
make
it
meaningless
examples
of
truly
distinctive
elements
of
city
identity
include
the
foshee,
the
grain
belt
sign
and
the
stone
arch
bridge
on
the
neighborhood
level
features
like
the
witch's
hat
water
tower
and
prospect
park
or
other
visually.
Prominent,
unique
and
known
and
beloved.
Structural,
artistic
or
landscape
features
could
meet
this
criterion,
but
there's
simply
nothing
about
these
three
homes
individually
or
collectively.
That
is
the
distinctive
identifier
of
the
marcy
holmes,
neighborhood
or
dinky
town.
R
Again,
the
study
doesn't
do
the
work
to
establish
the
context
of
kenyan
designed
homes
and
comparatively
evaluate
the
lachlan
houses.
In
that
context,
it
provides
no
analysis
of
what
constitutes
modest
and
practical
architecture
and
no
comparison
of
other,
once
defined
modest
kenyan
design
for
the
lochen
houses
to
support
the
assertion
that
the
locker
houses
were.
J
R
R
That
study
identified
these
landmark
kenyan
design
building.
It
went
on
to
identify
25
other
kenyan
buildings,
primarily
houses
that
had
been
identified
through
surveys
as
historic
resources
and
another
67
houses
and
other
buildings
and
designs
associated
with
kenyan
that
are
immense,
most
of
which
are
excellent
in
the
city.
You.
S
R
As
noted
in
the
landscape
research
eligibility
study,
kenyan
was
noted
for
heavily
decorated,
costly
mansions,
but
also
executed,
simple
frame
houses
and
favored
revival.
R
R
R
A
designation
of
a
discontinuous
district
in
laurie
hill
might
serve
the
commission's
expressed
interest
most
fully
because
it
could
represent
the
range
of
his
work,
both
high
style
and
more
modest
and
practical,
both
the
moving
on
to
the
relationship
of
the
city's
comprehensive
plan.
I
noted
in
the
letter
that
you
know
we
acknowledge
that
this
you
know.
Particular
pro
proposal
may
be
consistent
with
some
comprehensive
plans
and
inconsistent
with
others
and
there's
often
a
tension.
R
R
T
R
As
staff
search
the
designation
promote,
you
know,
indy,
you
know
tell
us
the
story
of
the
histories
of
renters
and
women's
roles
in
property,
development,
ownership
and
management,
because
it
does
not
detail
a
context
of
student
ventures
and
with
respect
to
mary
lachlan's
role
in
property
development
management
ownership.
R
The
cped
report
contained
much
conjecture,
but
little
additional
information
than
was
available
through
the
landscape
research,
eligibility
study
and,
importantly,
staff
conclude
that
the
houses
are
not
significant
because
of
their
association
with
mary
lachlan
and
finally,
with
respect
to
the
effect
on
the
surrounding
area
and
and
relating
again
to
the
economic
and
feasibility
of
renovating.
These
houses
preservation
will
not
positively
affect
the
surrounding
area
because,
as
they
say,
the
buildings
will
serve
as
an
example
of
high
quality
housing
preservation
through
sustainable
practices
that
reduce
human
environmental
impact.
R
In
contrast,
the
proposed
redevelopment
that
north
bay
would
undertake
would
be
high
quality
energy,
efficient
residential
units,
a
portion
of
which
would
be
affordable
in
accordance
with
the
city's
inclusionary
zoning
requirements
and
would
be
positive
development
for
both
future
vendors
and
the
surrounding
area.
So
thank
you
for
your
time.
I
I
I
don't
see
any
questions.
Thank
you
for
speaking
with
us
today.
I
will
move
on
to
the
other
members
signed
up
in
the
public
speaking
queue.
The
next
on
the
list
is
garrett
duncan
garrett.
If
you
could
press
star.
U
U
Hello,
I'm
actually
with
the
applicant
as
well,
and
I
don't
have
any
additional
comments
to
make
as
to
what
carol
just
made.
I
I
T
T
R
I'm
on
the
marcy
holmes,
neighborhood
association
board
and
live
at
423
7th
street
southeast
I'm
going
to
read
from
a
letter
we
submitted
to
the
hpc
and
contest
carol
lansing's
statement.
Madam
chair
and
commission
members,
the
marzi
homes
nearby
association
supports
staff's
recommendations
that
the
mary
lockland
student
rooming
homes
be
designated
as
a
local
historic
district.
In
our
may
2020
letter
to
the
hpc,
we
propose
that
the
houses
qualify
under
significance
criteria.
One
three
and
six
staff's
designation
study
concurs
with
that
recommendation
criterion.
R
One
these
houses
are
emblematic
of
social
patterns
and
cultural
trends
associated
with
sinking
down
and
student
housing.
In
relation
to
the
university
of
minnesota.
Due
to
the
burgeoning
student
population,
between
1880
and
1910,
many
homes
were
converted
to
house
students
and
sorority
and
fraternity
groups.
Mary
lachlan's
homes,
built
in
1901,
were
converted
to
booming
houses
between
1909
and
1911,
and
they
continue
their
historic
use
as
high
density,
affordable
housing
and
visual
visually
association
and
visual
association
to
the
transformation
of
university
and
neighborhood.
R
At
the
beginning
of
the
new
century
criterion,
three
student
rooming
homes
have
been
historically
more
associated
with
stinky
towns
and
mercy
homes
than
with
any
other
area.
In
minneapolis,
as
staff
has
noted,
the
marcy
lots
of
the
mary
lochlan
rooming
home
represent
both
the
academic-centered
residential
history
of
the
student
population
in
dinkytown
and
the
distinct
elements
of
dinkytown's
identity
in
the
context
of
the
marzi
homes
neighborhood
criterion.
Six,
these
buildings
represent
three
different
architectural
styles
and
are
important
examples
of
william
kenyon
design
dwellings
in
the
city
of
minneapolis
and
retain
a
collective
architectural
identity.
R
In
their
february,
22nd
leadership
was
suggested
that
the
adjacent
three
mary
lochman
houses
designed
by
kenyans
because
of
the
mary
lockland
student,
rooming
houses,
historic
districts
and
we
wonder,
has
hpc
considered
including
them.
With
regard
to
the
2040
plan,
the
proposed
designation
supports
the
2040
plan's
future
use
for
the
area
for
future
land
use
for
the
area
and
the
corridor.
Six
build
farm
districts,
building
heights
between
two
and
six
stories
and
policies,
60,
92
and
93,
which
addresses
shared
properties,
districts,
resources
and
contexts
apply
to
this
designation.
R
U
Good
afternoon
this
is
eric
wunderlich.
I
live
at
413
5th
street
southeast
in
the
marcy
holmes
neighborhood,
and
I'm
going
to
speak
on
behalf
of
preserve
historic
dinky
town.
So,
thank
you.
Commission
members
preserve
historic
dinkytown
wishes
to
convey
its
strong
support
for
the
mary
lockron
student
rooming
homes,
district,
historic
district
in
the
staff
report
that
recommends
its
designation.
U
The
report
and
criteria
descriptions
provide
an
excellent
understanding
of
the
social,
architectural
and
cultural
importance
of
dinkytown's
residential
history,
as
it
has
historically
been
intertwined
with
the
transportation,
commercial,
academic,
institutional
and
social
patterns
which
grew
around
this
area.
But
the
preservation
of
the
district
is
not
just
about
the
past.
It's
also
about
the
present
and
the
future.
U
The
university
area
looming
house
has
been
intrinsic
to
the
creative
cultural
contributions
of
dinky
town
to
the
city,
the
state
and
even
the
nation.
Much
of
the
cultural,
creativity
and
artistic
political
activity
documented
in
phd's
dinky,
that's
preserve
historic
dinky,
town,
phd's,
dinky
town.
A
living
history
was
born
in
its
rooming
houses,
where
you
missed,
where
musicians,
writers
and
political
figures
met,
created
and
conspired,
including
hubert
humphrey,
bob
dylan,
frederick,
manfred
fred
and
dozens
more.
U
The
area
rooming
houses
make
it
possible
only
not
only
for
students
but
for
graduates,
businesses,
social
justice
and
cultural
entrepreneurs
to
generate
and
innovate
on
the
economic
fringe
with
direct
access
to
all
the
assets
of
the
area.
This
form
of
housing
supports
cultural,
social
and
economic
diversity.
U
It
should
not
be
preserved
only
as
a
remnant,
but
is
a
vital
and
important
element
of
dinkytown's
living
history.
To
this
end,
phd
also
supports
the
state,
historic
preservation
office's
recommendation
to
include
the
other
three
residences
located
at
1107
1111
and
1115
4th
street
southeast
in
the
boundary
of
the
mary
lochran
student
rooming
homes,
historic
district.
S
I
E
Q
I'm
accident,
but
I'm
speaking
on
my
own
behalf
today,
just
as
a
member
of
the
martial
neighborhood,
I
want
to
buy
this
place,
that's
being
considered
almost
on
a
daily
basis
and
in
the
15
years
or
so
that
I
lived
here.
I
never
found
it
remarkable
at
all.
Q
You
know
I
appreciate
all
of
the
historic
properties
in
the
neighborhood
that
have
been
preserved.
I'm
I'm
very
grateful
for
the
5th
street
historic
district
and
the
greek
life
historic
district,
and
I
think
there
are
some
other
properties
actually
on
this
block
itself
that
aren't
yet
protected.
That
would
be
worthy
of
it.
But
these
three
houses
are
just
completely
unremarkable.
You
could
see
them
almost
anywhere
in
the
city
and
there's
nothing
that
really
connects
the
three
of
them
and
one
has
like
a
barn-like
shirt,
the
other
two.
Q
Don't
I
mean
I've
been
inside
of
of
two
out
of
the
three
while
I
was
door
knocking
back
in
2017,
they
were
pretty
dilapidated
on
the
inside
and
I
I
just
think
he
would
set
a
really
bad
precedent
to
designate
these
buildings
as
historic.
Q
When
I
mean
there's
just
really
not
a
lot
of
historic
value
to
them-
and
you
know
it
competes
with
a
lot
of
the
other
20
40
goals,
this
is
corridor
six.
You
know
it
could
have
higher
density
hosing
and
I
feel
like
a
lot
of
the
motivation
to
get.
This
is
motivated.
You
know,
by
opposition,
to
higher
density
in
the
neighborhood,
as
opposed
to
you
know,
generally
concerned
about
like
preserving
these
specific
buildings.
So
you
know
we've
already
taken.
Q
A
lot
of
you
know
plots
off
the
potential
market
by
by
the
historic,
and
I
think
you
know
when
we
do
that
we
should
try
to
make
up
for
that
by
allowing
more
density
elsewhere.
So
you
know,
I
would
urge
you
to
not
accept
this
today,
because
they're
really
not
very
remarkable
buildings.
Thank
you.
I
I
I
Okay,
seeing
none
I
will
close
the
public
hearing.
Commissioners,
let's
discuss,
I
realize
this
is
a
maybe
slightly
trickier
one.
Are
there
any
concerns
or
comments
on
this
proposed
application?
Commissioner,
howard.
N
Hello
again,
I
just
want
to
make
a
couple
points.
I
think
it's
really
important
to
remember
that
historic
properties
does
not
equate
to
something
that
is
remarkable
or
outstanding
in
design
it
has
to
do
with
with
the
history
of
the
property
and
whether
or
not
that
history
has
some
significance.
N
I
think
that,
in
relation
to
the
three
designation
criteria
that
we're
looking
at
the
strongest
here
that
we
have
a
context
for
is
the
rooming
house
context.
I
think
it
the
the
context
of
student
housing
and
associated
housing,
so
not
just
students
but
professors
and
associated
communities,
communities
that
are
associated
with
the
university
kind
of
all
come
together
in
the
idea
of
these.
N
These
rooming
houses,
the
fact
that
it
happens
to
look
like
a
single
family
family
dwelling,
but
the
three
of
them
happen
to
look
like
single-family
dwellings
actually
fits
very
well
within
that
context,
as
it's
been
presented,
I
think
that
the
the
criteria
related
to
the
distinctive
elements
of
city
or
neighborhood
identity.
I
think
that
is
a
little
weaker.
N
We
don't,
of
course,
have
a
definition
for
distinctive
elements,
and
I
think
that
the
context
that's
presented
for
kenyan
is
also
a
little
weak,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
remember
that
our
criterion
actually
says
the
property,
exemplifies
works
of
masters
and
and
exemplify
means
to
typify
it's
a
it's
a
typical
example
of
of
the
design.
So
our
criteria
are
a
little
iffy
on
some
of
these
things,
but
I
think
the
strongest
here
is
that
rooming
house
context,
and
I
think
I'm
I'm
still
on
the
fence
on
this
one.
N
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
have
just
a
couple
of
comments.
As
you
know,
I'm
a
new
commissioner,
and
I
wasn't
here
when
the
actions
were
taken.
M
Last
year
I
did
read
the
the
designate
or
these
studies
on
the
demolition
requests
that
were
included
in
our
materials,
and
I
listened
to
the
discussion
on
in
the
archives
on
the
meeting
that
you
had
in
2020
to
discuss
this,
and
I
have
to
say
when
I
read
the
report
from
last
year
and
I
listened
to
that
discussion,
I
find
it
hard
to
reconcile
the
statements
in
the
report
about
criteria.
M
One
three
and
six,
and
I
didn't
see
in
the
reports
necessarily
the
facts
that
that
changed
the
ultimate
analysis
in
those
areas,
and
I
should
mention
that
I
am
a
resident
of
a
rooming
house
in
the
university
area.
I
lived
in
one
for
about
a
year
almost
50
years
ago,
when
I
was
a
first
year
law
student,
not
one
of
these
three
but
one
down
the
street
on
fourth
fourth
street
and
I'm
very
sympathetic
to
the
whole
concept
of
of
of
recognizing
these
kinds
of
properties.
M
Likewise,
I
had
concerns
with
criteria
three
and
six
being
being
met,
and
I
realized
that
this
is
a
it's
difficult
and
probably
different
people
will
view
these
in
a
different
way.
But
but
I,
when
I
read
the
staff
reports
on
criteria,
1,
3
and
6
back
in
2020-
and
I
read
them
again
now-
I
had
trouble
reconciling
them
in
my
own
mind,
so
that's
something
that
I'm
wrestling
with.
I
guess
to
the
extent
that
the
commission,
if
it
does
conclude
that
the
staff
report
is
the
way
to
go.
M
I
also
have
a
question
about
why.
What
about
the
other
three
I
mean
there's
language
in
the
in
the
staff
report
in
2021
that
talks
about
that.
Each
building
in
relationship
to
the
other
two
could
merit
designation
as
non-high
style
residences
designed
by
william
kenwood
ken
young.
But
I
I'm
sorry,
I
forgot
to
turn
my
camera
on
I'll.
Do
that,
so
you
can
see
me,
but
I,
but
I
do
wonder
why
the
commission
wouldn't
at
least
consider
the
other
three
that
are
contiguous.
M
That
would
be
consistent
also
with
what
the
state
office
suggested
in
their
letter
and
and
if
the
decision
is
to
approve
the
protection
for
these
existing
three
that
we've
been
talking
about.
I
think
consideration
should
be
given
to
also
looking
into
the
other
three
in
more
detail
and
finally,
in
that
same
line,
it
almost
seems
arbitrary
to
call
out
these
three
and
not
the
other
three,
unless
there's
some
basis
for
for
making
that
decision-
and
I
don't
know
if
there
is
or
isn't
at
this
point.
Thank
you.
I
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Strothers,
I'm
wondering
if
staff
could
quickly
address
that
question
of
why
these
three
and
not
the
other
three
were
looked
at
in
this
context.
O
The
three
questions
that
were
being
studied
were
as
a
result
of
the
demolition
of
historical
resource
applications
that
were
heard
in
front
of
you
a
little
less
than
a
year
ago.
So
they
are
the
three
properties
in
question
that
are
being
evaluated
due
to
that
action.
O
I
Okay,
thank
you,
commissioner.
Stadi.
L
K
L
My
thinking
about
this
when
we
met
it
was
a
very
it
was
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic.
My
concern
was
that
these
would
get
demolished
and
nothing
would
be
built
in
their
place.
I
feel
like
that.
Concern
is
not
one
that
I
have
anymore,
considering
that
students
will
be
returning
to
the
university
in
the
fall
full-time.
So
that's
that's
where
I
am
on
this,
but
I
yeah.
I
would
really
like
to
hear
from
more
of
the
new
commissioners
about
this.
I
Thank
you,
commissioner
stadi.
I
was
trying
to
remember
what
exactly
my
thoughts
were
when
we
saw
this
previously.
I
I
do
remember
our
discussion
about
concerns
of
a
fast
demolition,
and
you
know
the
current
status
of
everything.
I
I
think,
commissioner
strothers,
to
kind
of
address
your
comment
a
little
bit,
because
this
came
through
as
a
demolition.
We
were
only
looking
at
the
properties,
as
rob
said
that
were
because
it
was
based
off
of
a
permit,
which
is
a
little
bit
different
process
than
if
we're
nominating
a
district
because
of
a
survey
done
of
an
area
or
something
it's
sort
of
a
different
process,
and
that's
when
we're
more
likely
to
bring
in
a
wider
range
of
properties.
I
Although
I
agree
with
your
feelings
that,
with
all
six
properties,
the
case
for
this
district
would
probably
be
a
bit
stronger
andrea.
Do
you
have
some
comments
on
that?
That
might
be
helpful.
V
Yeah,
andrea
burke,
the
supervisor
for
the
cped
team,
hp
team,
the
reason
going
back
to
april
of
2020.
V
They
would
have
been
captured
under
interim
protection
for
a
year,
and
that
can
happen.
It
just
gets
really
squirrely
and
uncomfortable.
When
you
know
they
didn't
even
show
up
to
the
meeting
and
then
suddenly
they
had
these
restrictions,
or
you
know,
put
on
them
really
without
their
notice
and
the
commissioners
felt
that
it
really
wasn't
an
appropriate
time
to
do
that
at
that
particular
meeting
and
waiting
to
see
the
outcome
of
the
study
who
it
was
actually,
commissioner,
mack,
who
overturned
it
and
made
the
findings
to
to
include
or
to
desert.
V
Excuse
me
to
deny
the
demolition
and
start
the
designation
study
on
this.
You
know
going
forward.
It
is
always
possible
to
nominate
the
other
three,
but
that
is
why
they
weren't
included.
You
know
we
are
aware
of
the
state's
comments
on
it,
but
that
is
that
is
ultimately
why
they
were
not
included
in
the
the
group.
I
I
V
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
comment
in
response
to
commissioner
strothers
and
then
also
to
you
cheersnbert
on
that.
That
is
a
possibility.
I
would
strongly
advise
to
continue
that
or
bring
that
up
in.
You
know
mentioning
that
on
a
later
date,
you
know
possibly
under
new
business,
that
you
intend
to
do
that
so
that
we
have
time
to.
V
Should
you
go
in
that
direction
to
let
the
property
owners
know
just
in
all
fairness
and
transparency
and
give
them
an
appropriate
chance
to
speak
and
and
speak
their
case,
because
I
do
not
believe
they
are
here
tonight
and
it
does.
You
know
when
you
do
make
a
motion
to
nominate
and
accept
something
it
does
come
with
some
some
strings
attached.
Well,
not
some
some
very
large
strings
attached.
So
that's
my
advice
on
that.
I
Thank
you
andrea,
commissioner
howard.
N
Related
to
this
conversation,
andrea,
if,
if
we
were
to
designate
these,
are
free
to
to
approve
this
designation
today,
would
the
other
three
properties
be
flagged
within
city
systems
as
being
potentially
historic?
N
Therefore,
if
demolition
permits
were
to
come
up
for
them
or
if
any
kind
of
alterations,
building
perma
request
to
do
alterations
would
come
up
for
them,
would
they
be
flagged
to
go
through
this
process
similar
to
demolition
review?
We
had
on
these
three,
I
guess
the
question
I
I
am
very
concerned
about
putting
any
kind
of
strings
on
the
other
properties,
with
the
property
owners
not
being
in
the
room
and
part
of
this
conversation.
N
V
Thanks
for
your
question,
commissioner
howard,
if
this
were
to
be
designated,
keep
in
mind
that
it
is
just
a
recommendation
and
that
it
would
go
to
this
business
inspections,
housing
and
zoning
committee
of
the
city
council
next,
where
your
recommendation
would
be
further
heard
and
either
accepted
or
overturned
before
it
got
to
the
city
council.
V
But
in
terms
of
what
those
other
properties,
let's
say,
hypothetically,
there
was
a
recommendation
made
by
the
hpc.
Let's
just
say,
the
biz
committee
made
concurred
with
your
recommendation
and
forwarded
on
to
the
council.
They
accepted
it
at
this
point.
There
are
no
other
flags
on
the
other
three
properties,
other
than
sort
of
what
staff
is
aware
of.
You
know:
should
those
properties
come
through
for,
let's
say
the
developer
or
the
owners
or
somebody
were
to
buy
them
and
submit
a
demolition
permit.
The
way
the
ordinance
and
the
is
set
up.
V
Staff
has
an
opportunity
to
review
every
demolition
permit
in
the
city
to
to
look
for
historic
significance,
so
it
potentially
would
be
reviewed
in
that
capacity,
but
without
the
presence
of
a
nam,
a
formal
nomination
by
one
of
the
five
individuals
who
can
make
one,
one
of
which
is
an
hpc
commissioner.
I
I
think
kind
of
I
guess,
circling
back
on
the
discussion.
I
I
agree
with
commissioner
howard
that
I
found
the
rooming
house
argument
to
be
the
strongest
of
the
three
arguments
for
historical
significance.
I
I
think
it's
an
interesting
area
of
the
city's
history
that
hasn't
been
studied
extensively,
and
so
I
think
I
understand
the
the
feeling
in
the
public
that
maybe
there
hasn't
been
a
lot
of
context
study
on
this
area,
and
I
think
that
was
sort
of
the
point
of
our
request
was
we
wanted
some
context
study
on
that
and
that
this
gives
us
that
that
opening
to
look
at
this
this
history
more
and
that
one
of
the
things
the
commission
has
been
pushing
for
more
recently
is,
is
to
broaden
the
number
the
types,
the
diversity
of
the
histories
that
we
preserve
and
so
that
I
guess
the
argument
that
there's
nothing
particularly
special
about
these
houses
is
in
some
way
at
least
to
me.
I
The
point
that
we're
we're
saving
something
that
that
is
that
was
the
norm
and
is
slowly
decreasing
as
the
norm
as
new
development
changes,
the
landscape.
And
so
I
guess
to
me
I
I'm
supportive
of
this
designation.
I
Although
I
I
understand
and
sympathize
with
the
feeling
of
of
the
property
owner,
I
also
think
that,
as
the
neighborhood
commented,
this
is
a
way
of
preserving
a
type
of
affordable
housing.
It's
it's
not
quite
the
same
as
as
newly
constructed,
affordable
housing.
This
sort
of
naturally
occurring
affordability
is,
is
part
like
preservation
of
the
little
p
is
part
of
what
we
want
to
do
as
the
preservation
commission.
I
So
I
guess
I
I
feel
like
in
my
mind
this
supports
that
as
well,
but
that's
that's
just
my
feelings
on
it.
I'm
wondering
if
oh
good,
commissioner
nystrom
another
new
commissioner
to
speak.
J
Hi,
yes,
so
tara
sombre.
I
actually
was
going
to
chime
in,
but
I
wanted
you
to
finish
because
I
agree
with
both
you
and
commissioner
howard.
I
believe
that
that
first
one
of
the
rooming
house
is
the
strongest
argument,
that's
made
of
them,
and
I
also
agree
that
it's
kind
of
the
point
that
they're
not
remarkable,
and
so
I
I
understand-
and
I
I'm
basically
reiterating
what
you're
saying,
but
I
fully
agree
with
you.
J
It
reminds
me
of
a
time
when
I
was
in
college
compared
to
seeing
large
stacks
of
new
construction,
and
so
I
think
part
of
the
preservation
of
this
is
to
preserve
the
the
cheaper
housing
as
well
for
students
who
are
attending
school
or
just
more
affordable
housing
for
people
who
live
in
that
neighborhood,
and
so
I
think
I
agree
with
you
that
I
am
supportive
of
this,
but
also
empathize
that
they're
not
necessarily
everyone's
favorite,
to
kind
of
walk
by
or
view
but
yeah.
Those
are
my
sentiments
on
it.
So.
H
Thank
you
chair.
I
agree
with
everything
that's
been
said
and
I
don't
have
a
ton
to
add.
I
think
what
I
the
only
thing
I
would
add
to
this
from
my
perspective
is
well.
I
understand,
and
I
certainly
appreciate
our
fellow
planning,
commissioner
speaking
as
a
as
a
constituent
and
a
resident
of
the
of
the
neighborhood.
You
know
I
always
value
the
opportunity
to
kind
of
overlap.
H
Those
two
different
perspectives,
which
I
think
we
have
more
in
common
with
them,
we're
often
portrayed
as
and
while
I
well,
I
I
agree
with
kind
of
this.
You
know
this
reoccurring
theme
of
remarkability
and
like
are
these
the
best
example
well
from
my
perspective,
and
I
think
the
right
way,
in
my
opinion,
to
view
this
is
that
we
don't
have
a
choice
about
which
one's
the
best
one
right
now
the
choice
we
have
before
us
today
is
these
three
buildings.
H
I
felt
that
the
I
I
disagree
in
that
the
report
didn't
make
a
strong
case.
I
think
it.
I
think
it
made
a
strong
enough
case
that
I
I
felt
I
agreed
with
it.
I
agree
with
the
findings.
H
I
was
open
to
hearing
anything
that
and
still
am,
if
there's
commissioners
that
have
strong
feelings,
one
way
or
the
other
to
get
some
additional
perspective
on,
but
from
my
standpoint,
if
we're
looking
at
it
with
these
three
buildings
before
us
today,
not
knowing
what
would
come
before
us
again
and
what
other
opportunities
we
might
have
to
protect
and
and
preserve
other
examples
of
this
type
of
development
in
dinkytown,
then
I
think
this
is
an
opportunity
to
do
just
that,
and
so
I
would
fully
support
approving
staff
findings
as
written.
H
I
I
want
to
hold
back
making
a
motion
in
case
any
other
commissioners
have
anything
else
to
add,
but
I
am
in
support
of
doing
so.
Thank.
E
Yes,
thank
you,
chair
sundberg.
I
can
also
speak
as
a
new
commissioner,
who
was
not
here
last
time
that
this
was
came
across
the
agenda
and
I've
had
some
similar
thoughts
as
other
commissioners.
In
regards
to
this
application
or
to
the
to
the
designation
of
this
district,
I
want
to
say
I'm
I'm.
E
Maybe
this
is
the
wrong
place
for
it,
but
I
know
that
the
the
demolition
request
was
denied
last
year
partially
because
there
was
not
a
reuse
or
a
reused,
study
or
reuse
plan
that
was
put
before
us
and
I'm
curious.
It
may
not
be
the
the
point
of
designating
this,
but
I
know
that
that
nest
wasn't
necessarily
unless
I
missed
something
a
part
of
the
you
know,
the
the
applicants
hearing
today
wasn't
necessarily
an
option
that
they
gave
as
someone
who's
very
much
preservation-minded.
E
I
I'm
you
know
not
just
the
fact
that
they're,
maybe
not
the
most
remarkable
buildings,
but
they
are
old
materials.
They
are
sustainable
materials
that
in
a
house
that
could
be
very
much
sustainable
if
it
was
reused-
and
I
want
to
highlight
the
the
point
that
I
believe
the
neighborhood
commission
or
or
the
neighborhood
group
made
of
you
know
these
are
natural
occurring,
affordable
housing,
they
could
potentially
be
sustainable
housing.
If
you
know
old
houses
can
be
sustainable
too
is
essentially
the
point
I
wanna
make.
E
I
don't
know
if
this
is
the
place
to
make
that
comment,
but-
and
I
think
I
would
echo
what
other
commissioners
have
said
and
that
I
I
do
generally
agree
with
the
report
and
to
even
more
so
with
commissioner
vandarak
just
now.
You
know
this
is
what
we
have
before
us
right
now.
You
know,
there's
we
could
wait
and
see.
E
I
guess
what
others
might,
what
other
research
might
do,
but
you
know
this
is
what's
before
us,
and
this
is
what
we
have
to
vote
on
and-
and
I
think
that
you
know
the
staff
report
does
outline
outline
a
good
representation
of
you
know
why
these
are
historic.
I
Thank
you,
commissioner,
booty
to
kind
of
address
your
question.
When
we
see
a
demolition
application,
they
don't
need
to
provide
a
any
drawings
of
what
they
are
proposing
to
build
there.
I
If
it's
not
a
designated
pro
like
so
now
that
this
is,
you
know
if
this
was
designated
as
a
district,
and
then
they
were
going
to
build
something
demo
and
build
something,
then
they
would
need
to
provide
the
drawings,
but
if
it's
being
pulled
because
it's
a
demolition
and
it's
not
in
a
pre-existing
district
or
a
pre-existing
designated
building,
they
don't
need
to
provide
anything
for
in
terms
of
what
their
reuse
will
be.
I
That's,
I
would
say
one
of
the
advantages
of
a
district
is
that
then
we
do
get
to
see
what
any
sort
of
reuse
would
be.
So
that's
that's
sort
of
where
that
line
is.
It
sounds
like
there
seems
to
be
a
general
consensus
on
support.
Oh
good,
commissioner
howard,
do
you
make
a
motion.
I
I
K
C
F
I
Our
next
agenda
item
is
number
eight.
This
is
the
cavalry
baptist
church,
2608
blaisdell
avenue,
south
ward
10
designation
study.
The
staff
report
will
be
presented
by
rob
schlecke.
O
Thanks
again,
chair
again,
my
name
is
rob
scholecki
city
planner
in
the
historic
preservation
section
of
cped,
I'm
presenting
the
calvary
baptist
church
national
register
of
historic
places,
nomination
for
hpc
clg
comment.
The
property
is
located
at
2608,
blaisdell
avenue
south
next
slide.
Please,
the
property
is
an
individual
landmark
locally
designated
by
the
city
of
minneapolis.
The
parcel
was
designated
as
a
landmark
in
1995
for
cultural
history
and
the
representation
of
growth
of
the
baptist
church
in
minneapolis,
as
well
as
its
significance
for
the
work
of
warren
dumper.
O
Warren
h,
hayes
and
harry
while
jones,
who
are
both
master
architects.
The
national
historic
places
nomination
is
consistent
with
the
description
and
the
narrative
detailed
in
the
landmark
designation
next
slide.
Please.
O
Please,
the
nomination
states
that
the
calvary
baptist
church
is
historically
significant
under
national
register
criteria
c
for
architecture
for
its
local
significance
as
an
example
of
an
intact
romanesque
revival.
Church
designed
by
warren
h,
hayes
and
harry
wild
jones,
the
building
is
also
the
example
of
the
pinnacle
of
hayes
skill
as
a
fully
formed
interpretation
of
the
romanesque
revival
style.
O
I
will
note,
too,
that
the
period
of
significance
for
the
property
begins
in
1885
when
the
chapel
building
was
constructed
and
ends
in
1928.
When
the
parish
house
edition
was
completed,
this
national
underserved
historic
places
period
of
significance
is
consistent
with
the
period
of
significance
for
the
locally
designated
landmark
next
slide.
O
Please
I
believe
we
have
one
more
slide
or
not
with
that
staff
recommends
that
the
heritage
preservation
commission
adopts
cpad's
report
and
approved
the
national
surface,
stroke
places
nomination
for
the
calvary
baptist
church,
located
2608,
blaisdell
avenue,
south
and
direct
staff
to
transmit
a
letter
summarizing
the
report
to
the
state,
historic
preservation
officer
and
with
that
I'm
available
for
any
questions.
I
Staff,
I
don't
see
any
questions
at
this
time.
Thank
you.
Okay.
Oh
yeah,
as
this
is
just
a
discussion
item,
commissioners,
are
there
any
concerns
or
comments
about
this
item?
I
I
think
it's
exciting
to
see.
I
One
of
our
local
landmarks
also
be
listed
on
the
the
national
register
that
I
think
in
some
ways
that
makes
it
easier
in
my
mind.
We
clearly
think
it
is
historic,
and
so
I
I
think,
there's
I
guess
to
me
this
seems
like
an
easy,
an
easy
one.
Commissioner
howard.
N
So,
unlike
our
local
designation
that
we
just
discussed,
this
is
one
of
those
that
it
really
is
about
the
distinctive
characteristics
of
the
architecture
and
and
that's
the
nature
of
criterion
c
for
the
national
register,
and
this
one
is
a
slam
dunk
in
my
opinion.
Obviously
we,
like
you,
said
as
a
commission,
we
already
respected
we've
already
designated
it
locally.
N
I
think
the
case
is
made
under
criterion
c
for
the
remarkable
architecture
here
and
using
our
qualifications,
for
what
is
a
master.
I
think
the
master
architects
here
are
also
very
clear
and
we
know
what
it
is
within
that
work,
so
I'm
excited
to
see
it
go
forward
and
and
appreciate
being
a
part
of
that
process.
I
Thank
you,
commissioner
howard.
I
think
that
is
a
good
point
that
this
one
really
is
because
of
how
it's
exemplifying
the
style
back
back
in
the
day
when
I
go
downtown,
I
would
bike
ride
past
this
building,
and
so
I
I'm
very
familiar
with
it,
and
I
think
it
really
does
stand
out
both
within
the
neighborhood
and
the
larger
context,
and
I
I
think
this
is
one
where
that
is
very
visually
evident,
which
which
makes
us
you
know
and
even
easier
one.
I
N
E
I
Thank
you
rachel
did
we
did
we
get
that
sufficient
for
the
clerk's
office.
G
Camera,
I
think,
just
to
be
on
the
safe
side.
If
it's
all
right
with
you,
I
copied
and
pasted
it
into
the
chat
so
just
just
to
cover
our
faces.
I
That's
fine,
commissioner
sample,
would
you
mind
reading
the
exact
text
from
the
chat.
P
I
Thank
you,
commissioner
sambol.
Commissioner
booty.
Do
you
continue
to
second?
Yes,
thank
you.
Is
there
any
further.
C
D
K
G
K
G
C
C
I
Thank
you
that
motion
passes.
That
concludes
our
items
for
tonight.
Do
commissioners
or
staff
have
any
announcements
or
new
commission
business
to
discuss.
V
Forgive
me
I
I'll
speak
real,
quick
and
then
I'll,
like
commissioner
state
ego
just
wanted
to
give
an
update
the
tyler
street
cook
house
northeast
tyler
street
northeast
cookhouse.
Forgive
me.
The
designation
study
that
you
heard
at
the
previous
hpc
meeting
did
go
to
the
business
inspections,
housing
and
zoning
committee
and
was
approved
on
consent
earlier
this
afternoon,
also
just
an
update.
V
I
will
probably
let
commissioner
sandbolt
give
this
if
she
was
planning
to,
but
if
not,
I'm
not
trying
to
steal
your
thunder
preservation
awards
coming
up
this
thursday
virtual
event
march
18th
and
I
believe
it
starts
at
5,
00
or
5
30
registration
is
required.
I
believe
you
must
be
because
you
they
need
to
send
you
an
invitation
and
then
also
just
an
update.
We
had
another
work
group
small
work
group
meeting
with
the
lyndhurst
residents
for
the
lindhurst
historic
district
design
guidelines.
It
was
also
a
very
productive
work
group
meeting.
V
The
residents
that
have
participated,
which
is
about
three
or
four,
had
a
number
of
comments.
The
consultant
presented
an
outline,
and
we
discussed
big
I'd,
say
hot
number
items
the
biggest,
which
I
think
will
be
a
sticking
point
is
windows
and
window
replacements.
V
The
residents
have
a
lot
of
strong
opinions
on
the
way
the
what
is
proposed
for
windows,
and
I
think
it's
everybody
on
this
commission
is
very
familiar
with
a
lot
of
the
applications
we
see.
So
I
anticipate
we'll
have
a
lot
of
comments
when
that
comes
before
you
after
it
goes
before
the
the
state
historic
preservation
office
for
comment,
but
the
next
step
in
that
process
is,
we
will
have
another
stakeholder
meeting
with
the
residents
that
have
all
been
invited
of
that
district.
V
To
comment
on
the
next
draft
of
the
guidelines,
which
I
think
is
more
of
a
full
outline
and
some
other
more
fleshed
out
sections
that
the
work
group
has
identified
as
very
important
to
them
before
the
full
draft
is
completed.
That
happens
on
march
30th
a
tuesday
evening
at
6
30
in
the
evening,
and
I
think
that
is
the.
That
concludes
my
updates.
Thank
you.
I
Thank
you,
andrea,
commissioner.
Stadi.
L
Hi
I
I'll
acknowledge
that
this
meeting
has
gone
long
already.
I
had
a
question
about.
I
was
looking
at
the
historic
resources
inventory
capstone
from,
I
think
it's
july,
2013
stark
preservation
did
it.
L
I
know
that
we
tried
to
designate
48th
in
chicago
as
a
historic
district
as
a
commercial
node,
and
there
wasn't
support
in
that
neighborhood.
But
I
do
wonder
if
we
should
be
investigating.
Maybe
this
is
a
topic
for
a
retreat.
The
designation
of
the
38th
in
chicago
commercial
node,
and
I'm
wondering
if
we've
ever
gotten
close
to
doing
that.
I
V
I
thank
you
cheersonburg
and
thanks
for
your
question,
commissioner
cd.
I
really
I'll
be
honest:
I'm
not
at
liberty
to
speak
a
whole
lot
about
that.
I
know.
There's
a
lot
happening
with
that
intersection.
There
has
been
a
an
introduction.
This
is,
should
be
public
now
into
goodness.
V
What
is
it
ordinance
or
it
has
started
a
discussion
about
cultural
districts,
and
I
do
well,
you
know
what
I'm
not
quote
myself,
but
there
has
been
an
introduction
about
cultural
districts
and
I
think,
contrary
to
what
I
had
just
said
at
a
previous,
either
hpc
meeting
or
retreat,
the
hpc
has
been
listed
as
a
body
to
at
minimum
comment
on
cultural
districts
very
much
probably
more
involved
than
that
than
I
can
give
you
at
this
point,
but
in
terms
of
designation
I
think
that
is
a
very
sensitive
topic,
especially
with
our
leadership.
V
I
have
not
been
apprised
of
any
discussions
to
designate
it.
I
know
there
have
been
a
lot
of
comments
going
around
about
what
should
happen
with
that
site.
At
this
point
I
will
just
let
commissioners-
or
maybe
this
is
a
good
time.
I
wasn't
ready
to
make
this
announcement.
V
Quite
yet,
but
because
I'm
still
working
on
it,
but
we
do
have
this
award
from
the
national
trust,
which
is
includes
public
engagement
for
a
larger
african-american,
historic
context,
study,
not
to
say
that
this
site
fits
perfectly,
but
it
also
fits
under
those
themes
in
in
light
of
recent
events-
and
I
have
a
feeling
this
particular
intersection
will
come
up
during
these
discussions,
I'm
in
the
process
of
writing
an
rfp
for
that
grant
now
which
we
are
going
to
kick
off
here
relatively
soon.
V
But
no,
I
bet
dude
to
definitively
answer
your
question
and
commissioner
stadium.
No,
there
have
been
no
discussions,
at
least
on
staff
side
or
from
leadership
side
about
that
intersection.
That
was
a
long
long
answer.
I
Thank
you,
andrea.
I
think
I
think
you
got
the
intent
of
the
question.
Commissioner.
Sampled,
do
you
have
any
comments
on
the
upcoming
I'm
looking
around,
because
I
I
you
know
I
got
I
signed
up
for
the
awards
ceremony
and
I
got
a
little
reminder.
Apparently
there
are
custom
cocktail
kits
you
can
have
delivered
to
you
for
the
award
ceremony,
which
I
was
not
aware
of.
That's
pretty
funny.
If
there
are
any
other
notices
about
the
ceremony
that
people
should
be
aware
of.
P
Yeah,
so
it's
happening
thursday
night
andrea
covered
most
of
the
information.
It
does
start
at
5
30..
If
you
haven't
registered
to
attend
yet
the
registration
is
still
open.
You
can
find
a
link
to
the
registration
from
either
the
preserve
minneapolis,
page
or
aia
minnesota
page
and
yes,
there
are
cocktail
kits
that
you
can
pick
up
from,
I
think
any
luns
or
buyer
lease
and
there
will
be
a
little
cocktail
mixing
portion
of
the
evening.
So
please
yeah
look
into
it.
I
hope
all
of
you
attend.
It
should
be
a
pretty
fun
event.
I
T
I
T
Hello,
I
am
calling
because
we
received
a
notice
that
there
was
a
public
hearing
today
on
the
windows
at
our
address.
One
elmwood
place:
east
minneapolis,
tangle
town
and
apparently
it
was
told
we
were
told
it
was
on
your
agenda,
but
it
doesn't
seem
to
be
on
your
agenda.
I
Oh,
I'm
sorry
we're
wrapping
up
the
meeting.
It
was
on
the
consent
agenda
right.
Isn't
it
not
the
when.
V
Forgive
me
I,
this
is
andrew
burke,
I
don't
know
if
john
is
still
on
the
meeting
right
now,
but
it
was
my
understanding
that
the
applicant
for
this
sorry,
I'm
letting
john
know
about
this
right
now-
was
notified
that
this
was
recommended
for
consent
and
therefore
the
the
applicant
agreed
to
it,
and
so
when
it
was
at
the
very
beginning,
a
meeting
when
the
chair
sorted
the
agenda,
that
it
was
recommended
and
accepted
for
consent
and
no
person
spoke
against
it.
Therefore
it
was
adopted.
So
forgive
me
if
okay.
T
I
Too,
okay,
there
being
no
other
business.
This
meeting,
if
not
and
without
objection,
I
will
declare
this
meeting
adjourned.
The
next
regular
meeting
of
the
hpc
is
april
6
2021..
Thank
you.