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From YouTube: July 8, 2021 West Broadway Improvement Special Service District Advisory Board meeting
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B
The
regular
meeting
of
the
west
broadway
improvement
special
service
district
advisory
board
meeting
will
now
begin
good
afternoon.
My
name
is
michael
mclaughlin.
I
will
be
facilitating
this
meeting
of
the
west
broadway
improvement
special
service
district
advisory
board.
Before
we
begin
I'd
like
to
note
that
this
meeting
includes
the
remote
participation
of
members
as
authorized
under
minnesota
statute,
section
13d
.021
due
to
the
declared
local
health
pandemic.
I
will
now
call
this
meeting
to
order
and
call
the
role
so
that
we
may
verify
the
presence
of
a
quorum
board
members.
B
James
scott
president,
tara
watson
is
not
present.
I'm
also
joined
by
my
colleagues
andrew
carlson
and
david
bauer
of
the
city
of
minneapolis
public
works
department
and
we
are
joined
by
by
one
guest
and
we
will
have
a
public
comment
period
in
just
in
just
a
minute
or
two
victor.
If
there's
anything
you'd
like
to
address
with
the
group
with
that
there
being
a
quorum
of
advisory
board,
members
present,
we
will
proceed.
B
The
first
two
items
on
the
agenda
are
the
adoption
of
the
draft
agenda
and
acceptance
of
the
minutes
from
the
june
24th
meeting
just
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
if
desired,
we
can.
The
board
can
adopt
both
of
those
items
in
one
motion
is:
would
there
be
a
motion
to
approve
both
the
proposed
agenda
and
the
draft
minutes.
B
D
E
Yeah,
hey
thanks
man,
15
minutes
man.
I
wasn't
prepared
for
that,
but
but
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
be
a
fly
in
the
room
and
hear
about
the
work
that
you
guys
do
and
and
just
just
really
play
catch
up.
You
know-
and
I
really
I
want
to
see
this
corridor
or
the
business
community
here
in
north-
to
really
concentrate
its
effectiveness
and
power
and
really
come
back.
E
B
Very
good
I
we
have
not
been
joined
by
anybody
else
from
the
public.
So
victor
again,
thank
you
for
for
for
joining
us
and
with
that
we'll
continue
with
with
our
discussion
items.
If
there
are
no
other
comments
with
that,
we
I
included
in
the
packet.
The
main
discussion
item
is
the
2022
work
plan
and
budget
recommendation
for
next
year.
I
did
include
the
the
the
amended
2021
budget.
B
We
we
got
through
part
of
this
item
at
the
prior
meeting,
but
you
know
I
sense
that
there
was
maybe
an
interest
in
having
a
conversation,
perhaps
about
adjusting
service
frequencies
and
so
forth.
So
as
I
lead
into
the
2022
discussion
item,
if
the
board
would
like,
we
can
certainly
take
a
couple
of
minutes
and
talk
about
the
2021
budget,
and
I
will
share
my
screen
here
again.
This
was
posted
to
the
cityus
website
and
was
included
in
the
packet.
That
was
the
meeting
packet
that
was
sent
out
yesterday.
D
Michael
when
you
refer
to
the
current
service
here
in
our
discussions
about
adjusting
the
litter
and
debris
management
piece
of
our
work,
we
had
discussed
at
the
last
meeting
about
increasing
the
frequency
of
service
to
add
another
day
of
the
week
when
we
were
discussing
that.
Would
that
be
able
to
include
the
remaining
portion
of
2020,
or
is
that
only
for
2021
moving
forward.
B
I'm
not
sure
if
I
understood
the
very
last
part
of
that
sentence.
We
can
increase
services
from
now
through
the
end
of
the
year
or
some
period
any
time
going
forward.
Yes,
we
can
do
that
and
if
you're,
if
your
question
was
related
to
the
2020
surplus
funds,
those
have
been
rolled
carried
forward
into
2021
and
are
available
to
spend
and
are
reflected
in
the
amended
budget
on
the
screen
and
in
the
packet.
B
D
Okay,
well,
based
on
some
comments
that
I
have
received
from
the
public
and
from
fellow
business.
Colleagues,
there
is
an
interest
in
seeing
an
increased
frequency
of
litter
and
pan
and
broom
pickup,
and
so
if
we
can
incorporate
that
now
until
the
snow
flies,
I
think
that
would
be
a
benefit
to
the
community.
B
F
D
F
Crew
yeah,
because
it
it's
not
uncommon,
many
many
districts
do
increase
the
the
frequency
during
this
you
know
the
summer
months.
So
for
obvious
reasons
we
see
additional
foot
traffic
and
I
think
now,
even
with
shops,
opening
up
you
know
it's
it's
you
know.
I
guess
you
know
not
a
surprise
to
hear
that
there
would
be
a
need
for
an
additional
to
add
additional
day.
B
Okay,
I
I
would
that
you
are
a
monday
and
a
friday
since
that's
your
conditions
now,
I
wednesday
would
certainly
be
an
appropriate
day
to
pick
that
up
the
practical
reality,
your
district,
like
a
lot
of
our
districts,
you
know
if
the
funds
were
available,
you
know
most
districts
could
really
be
paying
in
broome
daily
right.
I
mean
it's
just
especially
in
the
in
the
summer
months.
B
We
certainly
recognize
for
the
vast
majority
of
our
districts,
though,
that
that
isn't
a
financially
feasible
thing
that
can
be
done
just
because
of
the
costs
involved,
so
adding
that
that
third,
pan
and
broom
and
and
yes
dean
the
it
can
just
be
pain
and
broom
only
graffiti.
We
do
not
need
to
to
do
that
automatically.
We
could,
if
that
was
desired,
but
we
actually
have
that
that's
a
billed
separately
anyways.
B
So
if
you
just
if
the
consensus
of
the
group
is,
let's
add
a
wednesday
until
you
know-
let's
say
maybe
october
31
depending
on,
if
we
have
a
warm
fall,
maybe
we
would
continue
until
the
end
of
november.
If
the
snow
comes,
you
know
in
early
november
and
pedestrian
volumes
drop
off
a
little
bit.
Maybe
we
could
stop
it
right
on
on
october
31..
B
G
G
B
Yeah
two
great
questions
so
james.
The
answer
to
your
question
is
in
2020
for
the
full
calendar
year
the
district
removed
1149
instances
of
graffiti
over
the
course
of
the
12
months,
so
about
100
on
average
100
instances
a
month.
So
that
is-
and
so
I
would
say
yes,
there
is
a
need
for
graffiti,
although
just
to
nuance
it.
What
I
I
didn't
hear
dean
say
less
graffiti,
just
not
include
graffiti
as
part
of
the
servicing,
so
you
would
still
do
right
now.
B
You
do
graffiti
abatement
of
the
entire
district
once
a
week,
and
we
would
continue
that
frequency
unless
there
was
guidance
to
increase
that.
So
we
would
that
current
frequency
of
once
a
week
would
stay
and
then
the
second
part
of
that
question
was
the
parking
lot.
So
service
districts
are
not
able
to
provide
services
on
private
property,
so
we
cannot
go
on
to
whether
it's
a
parking
lot
or
any
kind
of
private
property.
B
B
B
G
B
Oh
yeah,
so
those
were
just
places.
We
were
placeholders
where
we
put
that
we
have
flexibility
to
to
move
the
dollars
around
and
it
doesn't
require
council
action.
I
appreciate
the
question
james,
so
we
just
you
know
we
had
to
split
the
the
fifty
thousand
five
to
four
surplus,
and
this
has
already
been
amended
and
proved
by
city
council,
your
amended
budget,
so
it
so
because
we
have
the
flexibility
to
spend
the
money
where
we
need
to
within
your
budget.
B
Okay,
all
right!
Well,
we
will
so
based
on
this
consensus.
We
will
add
the
wednesday
pan
and
broom
effective
next
week.
We
will
right
now
target
that
through
october
31,
subject
to
you
know
to
the
weather
and
if
we
are
still
having
a
pretty
warm
fall,
we'll
continue
it
until
november
30th
and
that
is
very
consistent
with
districts
that
do
pan
and
broom
seasonally.
We
usually
just
kind
of
wait
to
see
when
the
weather
turns
before
we
kind
of
dial
that
back
and
the
idea
there
is.
B
A
B
Yes,
so
yeah,
yes,
all
the
way,
including
the
the
gutter
pan
itself.
So
it's
everything
that
is
is
in
the
in
the
right
of
way
and
sidewalk.
So
all
right
were
there
any
still
on
the
subject
of
2021.
Were
there
any
any
other
service
frequency
changes?
So
again,
just
to
recap,
we
will
now
do
pan
and
broom
three
times
a
week,
we're
doing
graffiti
abatement
of
the
entire
district
one
time
per
week.
B
The
planters
are
maintained
once
a
week
and
again
that
includes
watering
weed
removal,
debris
removal
in
some
cases.
Unfortunately
planting
more
plants.
You
know
sometimes
people
don't
like
plants
and
they
pull
them
out
and
throw
them
on
the
ground.
So
we
pick
them
back
up
and
try
to
put
them
back
in
the
planter
or
they
like
them.
So
much.
B
G
D
D
D
I
had
discussed
some
visual
blights
that
we
see
with
the
rusting
of
the
columns
of
the
of
the
metal
on
the
bridge.
Some
of
the
stop
signs
and
stuff
that
are
are
in
need
of
touch-up
paint.
That
sort
of
thing
is
that
the
type
of
item
that
would
fall
under
our
business
district
maintenance
or
is
that
something
that
would
be
required
from
hennepin
county.
B
So
it
it
it
kind
of
depends
on
the
item
so
rusting
of
columns
around
the
bridge.
That
is
definitely
not
something
that
we
would
would
we'd
want
to
defer
to
mndot,
for
example,
for
that,
just
because
it's
their
infrastructure
and
while
it
seems
counterintuitive
it,
you
got
to
be
careful
covering
up
rust
because
that's
sometimes
the
indicator
that
mndot
and
others
used
like
to
to
gauge
the
the
maintenance
needs.
So
when
it
comes
to
anything
that
would
be
mndot
infrastructure,
we
would
need
to
like
maintenance
of
like
physical
things.
B
We
would
need
to
defer
to
mndot.
If
you
know,
if
we're
talking
about
like
trash,
you
know
pick
up
like
you
know,
sort
of
along
the
edges
of
the
you
know
the
bridge
and
stuff
like
that.
That's
we've
got
a
little
bit
more
discretion
there,
because
we're
not
sort
of
impacting
their
their
physical.
You
know
assets
in
terms
of
the
bridge.
The
other
items
it
it
kind
of
comes
down
to
some
of
those
items
are
things
the
service
district
might
be
able
to
take
care
of.
B
You
know
touching
up
paint
on
you
know,
city
light
poles,
for
example,
that
we
have
had
districts
do
that
some
districts
would
prefer
to
not
have
to
pay
for
it
and
they'll
they'll
make
the
request
of
you
know
the
responsible
party.
In
this
case
it
would
be
traffic
to
presumably
traffic
division
within
the
city.
If
it
is
otherwise
some
districts
say
hey,
you
know
we're
fine,
paying
and
incurring
that
cost
to
to
maintain
some
of
those
items.
B
D
B
And
I
would
just
comment
that
the
for
our
guest
victor
know
that
even
when
you're
out
there,
if
you
want
to
or
anybody
else
and
not
that
you
have
a
responsibility
to,
I
want
to
emphasize
that.
But
the
city's
3-1-1
app
is
is
a
great
way
to
report
those
things
because
it
goes
directly
to
the
responsible
party.
B
B
You
can
email
it
to
311
or
they
have
a
311
mobile
app
that
you
can
download
on
your
phone
and
it'll,
take
a
picture
of
it
and
capture
the
location
of
the
item,
and
then
it
automatically
gets
directed
to
the
responsible
party,
so
that
is
a
very
effective
way
to
at
least
get
it
on
the
rate
divisions,
radar
and
those
metrics
are
tracked
and
I'll.
I
I
know
david
and
andy
can
speak
to
this
as
well.
B
E
You
know
four
years
ago
and
a
few
quite
a
few
of
them
are
kind
of
falling
apart
and
and
that
could
use
some
love
and
so
wondering
that's
kind
of
one
of
those
bigger
items
because
there's
you
know
a
few
of
them
around
and
if
there
could
be
anything
done
about
those
particularly,
but
I
love
the
app
I've
done
it
in
the
past,
but
I
I'll
continue
to
do
that
now.
Thank
you.
B
Yeah
and
and
great
question
victor
on
the
I
know,
those
receptacles
that
you
mentioned,
that
are
that
have
the
they're
kind
of
brightly
colored,
those
are
ssd
maintained
and
those,
and
we
this
actually
has
come
up
at
a
prior.
Even
before
the
june
meeting.
I
know
we
had
had
a
conversation
briefly
at
another
meeting
about
the
trash
receptacles
and
they
that
is
something
the
ssd
could
utilize
your
dollars
to
replace.
B
B
You
know,
most
importantly,
just
recognizing
that
you
know
the
economic
environment
that
all
of
our
business
districts
have
been
operating
under
for
the
last
year
have
been
extremely
challenging
financially
so
with
with
the
goal
of,
hopefully
not
increasing
service
charges
that
was
kind
of
the
the
place
where
we
start
in
terms
of
a
draft
budget.
So
what
you
see
here
is
a
what
I
would
describe
as
a
status
quo
budget
in
the
sense
of
it
replicates
the
current
year
budget.
B
The
only
variance
is,
as
you'll
recall
last
year
right
at
the
public
hearing.
We
did
have
a
property
owner
that
was
opting
in
and
they
opted
out.
So
they
were
excluded
from
the
2021
service
charges.
It
was
too
late
to
re-calculate
everyone
else's
service
charges,
so
the
actual
service
charges
collected
in
2021
were
144.
B
788,
the
original
budget
was
148
000.,
so
this
returns
to
that
level
of
service
charges.
That
would
be,
at
least
in
this
draft
budget,
prorated
to
to
all
the
to
all
the
pr
contributing
properties
and
then
the
line
items
I
did
go
through
and
do
an
analysis
based
on
where
we
ended
last
year,
actual
expenses
and
this
these
dollar
levels
still
seem
to
be
appropriate
based
on
what
the
group
has
discussed
doing
in
the
past.
B
The
other
way
to
do
that
is
we
could
wait
until
after
the
close
of
the
books
for
this
year
and
next
spring.
If
there's
a
surplus
a
carry
forward,
the
group
could
then
decide
to
use
those
dollars,
carry
them
forward
in
2022
and
use
those
dollars
to
provide
that
that
third
pan
and
broom.
So
you
don't
have
to
make
a
decision
on
that
today
if,
depending
on
what
the
group's
wishes
are,
but
essentially
it
presumes
the
the
status
quo
level
of
service
frequencies
and
services
for
the
district
discussion.
B
B
B
To
be
a
very
robust
fixture,
they
they're
not
totally
inexpensive
just
due
to
their
their
their
their
quality
and
robustness,
but
those
are
installed
the
average
and
it
depends
on
the
quantity
that
you
buy.
We
tend
to
budget
1250
to
1500
per
receptacle
and
that's
the
receptacle
delivery
and
installation
to
the
site
and
removal
of
any
existing
receptacle.
B
B
G
G
B
G
G
G
B
B
The
other
thing
I
would
comment
is
james
to
your
point.
Yes,
services
are
adjusted
stadium.
Village
is
a
service
district
that
the
green
line
went
right
through
through
all
the
way
through
it
when
they
built
the
green
line
over
over
to
st
paul.
So
we're
very
familiar
of
what
you
know.
It
looks
like
to
adjust
services
as
needed
during
construction,
and
there
are
still
services
that
are
needed,
but
to
your
point,
james
services
definitely
were
adjusted.
B
B
So
david
will
share
a
screen
here
there.
That's
a
co-located
trash
receptacle.
The
black
one
with
a
the
ash
iron
is
a
is
an
attachment,
that's
an
optional
item,
and
then
you
see
the
same
receptacle
in
a
recycling
blue,
which
you
know
you
wouldn't
there'd,
be
no
obligation
to
do
a
recycling,
we're
just
showing
what
it
can
look
like,
but
this
is
a
steel
powder
coated
fixture
that
again,
we've
had
a
lot
of
success
with
in
in
a
number
of
other
districts,
and
this
is
no
one
describe.
B
E
B
E
A
E
B
E
B
B
Approximately
installed
got
it
well
what
we,
what
some
districts
have
done
just
because
they
are,
you
know,
depending
on
the
budget
amount,
they
tend
to
be
a
little
bit
more
of
a
higher
priced
item
is
they'll.
Do
a
phased
approach.
We've
had
a
number
of
districts,
that'll
buy
budget
for,
say
four
or
five
a
year
and
it'll,
just
you
know,
take
them
some
number
of
years
to
to
to
deploy
them.
B
There
are
also
great
streets.
The
business
district
support
program
has
been
willing
to
fund
trash
receptacle
purchasing
because
it's
a
partnership.
It
can
be
a
partnership
where
the
ssd
can
agree
to
once
the
fixture
is
there
and
we
we
actually
coordinate
the
whole
project
or
we
have
in
other
districts
where
basically,
we
are
in
outside
group
applies
for
great
street
grants.
If
it's
awarded,
we
can
process
everything
internally
and
we
can
go
implement
them
and
buy
them
and
install
them.
B
So
that
is
one
way
that
some
districts
have
been
able
to
purchase
those
or
expedite
the
purchase
of
trash
and
or
recycling.
Receptacles
is
through
the
through
the
business
district
support
grant
program
so
and
that
isn't
something
the
service
district
cannot
directly
apply
for,
because
a
non-profit
entity
does
need
to
be
the
entity
applying
for
it.
G
B
B
B
B
C
C
C
I
just
wanted
to
have:
let's
see,
you
know
kind
of
what
the
discussion
was
hear
from
dean
and
jane
if
that
one,
if
they
liked
even
the
that
checkered
trash
can
or
do
we
want
to
investigate
further
for
different
types.
And,
secondly,
you
know:
how
soon
would
they
be
open
to
doing
a
phase
approach,
whether
it's,
if
you
said
12,
1250,
a
piece
per
per
situation
in
a
sense.
B
G
E
D
G
B
Application,
because
I
think
you
got
a
federal,
a
grant
from
a
national
organization
for
that.
As
I
recall
and
james,
I
think
the
answer
is
wb.
Someone
with
wbc
would
have
to
go
back
and
look
at
the
agreement
to
see
if
what
there
had
to
have
been
some
kind
of
agreement
with
the
artist
in
order
to
compensate
them
and
to
see
what,
if
any
stipulations
there
were
about
removal
of
the
the
items
you
know
it
and
I'm
going
out
on
a
limb
here.
In
my
experience
it
tends
to
be.
B
You
know
things
that
are
like
functional
like
a
trash
that
are
decorative
in
nature,
a
trash
receptacle
or
a
planter.
In
your
case,
they
tend
not
to
have
those
requirements
about
de-assessing
them,
whereas,
like
actual
sculptural
things
that
are,
you
know
meant
to
be
interpreted,
you
know
for
the
by
the
public.
They
can
sometimes
have
those
types
of
rules,
the
the
and
to
me,
I
would
say,
there's
other
ways
to
I
mean.
Essentially
what
happened
when
is
the
the
wbc
donated
those
to
to
the
city?
B
I
think
is
the
technical
way
to
describe
that,
though
I
might
not
be
on
base
there,
so
you
could
still
buy
trash
receptacles
and
have
them
out
there.
So
there's
nothing
that
was
ex.
I
got
to
believe,
there's
nothing
exclusive
about
that
relationship.
You
also
they
they
are
only
in
a
certain
part
of
your
district,
so
they
aren't
throughout
the
entire
span
of
your
district.
So
you
you
definitely
have
the
ability
to
purchase
trash
receptacles
independent
of
that.
But
it
is.
We
went
it's
nothing.
B
G
G
D
You
showed
us
a
picture
of
one
in
another
district
that
is
inaccessible
to
the
general
public
to
reach
them,
and
we
had
talked
about
perhaps
adding
some
of
those
can
we
can.
We
take
a
combination
of
an
addition
of
trash
receptacles
and
some
of
those
planter
items
and
put
like
a
I.
What
was
the
cost
on
those
planter
installations.
B
So
the
planter
themselves
delivered
and
installed
is,
is
probably
going
to
be
in
the
350
range,
the
that's
not
with
plants
and
watering
and
stuff
like
that,
I'm
just
giving
you
sort
of
the
the
the
fixture
costs.
It's
probably
where
we
would
land
again.
It
depends
on
the
quantity
you
know
if
it's
10
versus
40,
you
know
there'd
be
some
price
savings
there,
but
you
know
350
is
probably
a
good
rule
of
thumb
and
then
or
yeah.
So
this
is
not
minneapolis.
B
This
is
in
georgetown,
I
believe
in
in
dc,
but
you
get
an
example
of
this
is
a
clamshell
style
hanging
basket
that
is
pole
mounted
and
we
we
do
have
two
districts
that
we
will
be
are
in
the
process
of
putting
an
order
in
for
these
and
it
you
know
right
now.
The
goal
is
that
the
plan
is
to
have
these
installed
by
next
spring
for
install
you
know
for
for
next
growing
season
for
the
growing
season
next
year.
B
So
that's
purchase
the
fixture
install
it
buy
the
the
liner
that's
needed,
buy
plants
both
a
summer
plant
complement
as
well
as
a
winter
sort
of
spruce,
tip,
decor
and
sort
of
the
removal
and
watering.
The
big
cost
is
is
really
watering
in
the
summer
months,
as
you
can
imagine
so
our
you
know,
it's
not
a
hard
and
fast
rule,
but
just
a
general
rule
from
a
budgetary
perspective
is
think
about
a
thousand
bucks
for
year,
one
and
then
it
ongoing
is
probably
750
a
year.
B
B
Don't
have
to
go
to
georgetown
to
see
these
if
you
wanted
to
see
them
up
close,
but
one
of
the
benefits
are
that
they
are
up
above
and
sort
of
out
of
arm's
reach,
but
still
provide
that
set
seasonal
decor
and
that
greening,
so
our
growing
season
is
obviously
a
little
different
than
georgetown.
So
we
can't
guarantee
our
results.
Just
like
your
401k
investments.
B
D
B
D
D
Right
and
and
to
be
more
on
point,
it's
not
actually
26
weeks,
it's
only
it's
five
months
if
we
go
to
november
30th
with
good
weather.
Otherwise
it's
only
four
months,
so
we
could
be
in
that
eighteen
to
twenty
thousand,
that
still
leaves
approximately
thirty
thousand
dollars.
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
spend
twenty
thousand
dollars
on
allocating
eight
new
trash
receptacles
and
ten
new
planters
throughout
the
the
avenue
so
that
we
get
some
visible
impact
of
improvements
coming
to
the
avenue
in
the
spring
of
next
year.
C
B
B
C
B
Great
question:
so
let's
take
that
last
one
first,
we
definitely
would
have
the
ability
to
add
spruce
tips
and
other
winter
decor
in
the
winter,
and
it
looks
really
nice.
That's
what
the
downtown
does
or
that's
what
the
did
does
downtown
so
don't
have
to
you.
We
would
still
leave
them
up
because
it's
not
worth
the
labor
cost
to
pull
them
down.
We
would
pull
the
plant
material
out
regardless,
but
they
could
be
left
empty
for
the
winter
or
we
could
buy
spruce
tip
material
that
we
would
already
be
doing.
B
Spruce
tips
in
your
sidewalk
planters.
We
would
just
buy
some
additional
material
and
and
put
them
in
there
is
what
we
would
recommend
since
we're
already
doing
it.
Your
question
about
full
flower
arrangements
is
an
interesting
one
and
it
is
something
we
have
talked
about
with
some
other
districts.
I
personally,
and
I
can't
find
it
fast
enough
on
my
phone,
but
I
have
found
locally
some.
What
I
would
describe
as
remarkably
attractive
full
flower
hanging
basket.
B
B
This
is
my
life
gentleman.
This
is
what
I
do.
What
michael
does
in
his
spare
time,
but
I
just
I
it
it
looked
really
nice.
You
know
I
mean
you:
could
you
could
probably
at
some
level,
read
that
it
was
maybe
not
a
real
plant,
but
it
wasn't
like.
Oh
these
garish
plastic
plants
out
here
it
it
looked
nice
so
so
that
is
certainly
something
if
that
group
wanted
us
to.
G
Will
these
all
get
pulled
out
and
thrown
away
because
the
lamp
posts
are
all
going
to
get
swapped
out
and
the
sidewalks
are
all
going
to
get
its
served
and
so
asking
only?
Is
it
a
wise
investment
to
spend
thirty
thousand
dollars
at
this
point
until
we
know
whether
or
not
or
would
they
unbolt
them
stole
them
and
put
them
back
yeah?
Once.
B
That
the
project
is
done
great
question
james.
It
is
definitely
where
we
would
collect
these
items
and
remove
them
prior
to
construction,
and
that
is
exactly
what
we
did
in
stadium,
village
and
candidly.
It's
what
we
do
anywhere,
where
there's
construction
of
a
project
where
you
know
some
redevelopment
they'll
go
out
to
the
back
of
curb
and
there
might
be
some
existing
streetscape
elements.
B
We
absolutely
go
in
recover
those
items
we
either
move
them
elsewhere
in
the
district
or
in
some
cases
we
just
store
those
during
construction,
and
then
we
redeploy
them
so,
and
that
would
be
true
for
the
the
trash
and
or
recycling
and
certainly
the
hanging
any
hanging
baskets
they
they
we
could
easily
remove
them
and
store
them,
so
it
would
not
be
wasted
dollars.
In
that
sense,
okay,.
G
B
A
week
so
james,
I
appreciate
the
question,
because
that
brings
us
right
back
to
the
to
the
agenda
item
at
ham
with
hand
which
is
the
2022
budget.
So
this
is
where
you
would
recommend
if
you
wanted
to
increase
your
service
charges
to
to
ensure
you
have
dollars
to
increase
service
frequencies
next
year.
This
is
the
meeting.
We
would
need
that
recommendation
so
there's
there
would
not
be
a
way
to
increase
service
charges
a
year
from
now
or
next
spring.
B
Once
the
budget's
already
been
approved,
the
only
mechanism
would
be
any
surplus.
Funds
could
be
carried
forward
and
amended
into
your
2022
budget,
but
that's
only
if
we
have
surplus
funds
based
on
what
we.
If
we
go
buy
these
things,
I
think
it
seems
unlikely
we
would
have
much
of
a
surplus,
because
we
would
based
on
the
guidance
that
we're
hearing
from
the
group
might
have
some.
So
I'm
not
saying
we'll
have
a
deficit,
but
it
it
it
won't
be
fifty
thousand
dollars.
It
would
probably
be.
B
You
know
some
small
few
thousands
of
dollars
if
there
was
one
so
back
to
the
2022
budget
and
I'll
I'll
share
my
screen
again.
This
would
be
you'd
have
to
increase
your
service
charges,
but
this
would
be
the
place
if
you
you
know,
if
you
wanted
to
just
say.
Well,
let's,
let's
add
you
know,
you
know
25
000
for
for
that
additional
third
pain
and
broom.
G
B
C
D
B
Great
question:
at
this
point:
we
have
not
seen
an
increase
in
pricing
for
these
types
of
streetscape
elements.
Our
the
the
trash
and
recycling
pricing
has
been
pretty
consistent.
The
only
thing
that
has
been
really
the
variable
is:
if
we
have
a
really
big
order,
there's
just
you
know
we're
able
to
get
those
shipping
costs
down
on
a
per
unit
basis.
Things
like
that
so
and
what
we
we
we've
reached
out
to
multiple
vendors
regarding
the
hanging
baskets
and
at
this
point,
we're
not
seeing
that
those
costs
have
increased
substantially.
B
C
B
G
B
They're
technically
exempt,
but
the
city
again
by
policy
says:
if
there's
a
service
district,
the
city
will
play
its
part
and
it
will
contribute
as
though
it
were
commercial
property.
That
is
not
so
for,
like
the
school
board,
property
or
other
exempt
like
county
properties.
Things
like
that
other
levels
of
government
aren't
required
to
pay
and
typically
don't.
G
D
And
what
if
we
were
to
split
in
the
middle
somewhere
at
fourteen
to
fifteen
percent,
if
we
were
to
do
a
fifteen
percent
increase
that
would
offer
us
twenty
two
thousand
two
hundred
dollars
worth
of
increase,
which
would
effectively
if
there
was
no
surplus
from
this
year,
would
allow
us
to
still
implement
twenty
thousand
dollars
worth
of
new
fixtures
and
and
then
also
have
west
broadway
coalition,
apply
to
the
great
streets
grants
program
to
get
reimbursed
or
put
assistance
funds
towards
that.
That
would
offset
it
anyway
or
a
portion
of
it.
B
A
B
B
Yeah,
what
I
would
say
is
the
the
upfront
cost
is
definitely
more,
but
your
annualized
cost
goes
way
down.
So
if
I
mean-
and
I'm
saying
this
a
little
bit
from
memory,
but
when
we
opened
it
four
years
ago,
I
think
again,
based
on
a
good
quality
faux
plant,
you
know
complement
of
plants.
I
think
we
were
in
the
range
of
of
like
250
to
300
per
unit.
B
So
if
you
think
of
let's
just
keep
it
if
a
fixture
installed
is
350,
add
another
300
for
the
full
plant
material,
so
you're
at
650
for
year
one.
But
then
you
know
assuming
the
plant
material
doesn't
blow
away.
You
know
your
your
ongoing
costs
go
go
way
down,
as
you
can
imagine.
If
we're
not
buying
plant
material
every
year,
probably
still
you
would
still
need
to
buy.
We
haven't
found
a
good
outdoor,
faux,
spruce
tip.
B
Although
I
have
looked
again
welcome
to
my
world
gentlemen,
but
the
at
least
that
looks
good,
but
so
you'd
still
have
you
know.
If
you
wanted
to
do
the
winter,
greening
you'd
still
have
that
cost.
That's
not
as
much.
Obviously
there's
no
maintenance.
I
mean
when
you
put
it
in
and
you
you
don't
have
to
do
anything
until
you
take
them
down,
so
that
cost
is
a
little
bit
more.
D
C
G
B
B
G
B
B
B
B
And
that
would
bring
you
would
go
from
ten
dollars
and
ninety
cents,
a
lineal
foot
roughly
to
thirteen
dollars,
11
cents,
but
that's
just
that's
without
me-
sort
of
we
haven't
done
the
service
charge
calculations,
so
some
properties
may
have
changed,
which
is
kind
of
where
justin
some
of
the
questions
justin
asked
about.
Some
properties
may
become
eligible
that
weren't
eligible
before
so
that
might
dilute
that
increase
a
little
bit.
D
D
C
C
But
I
don't
know
if
I
see
the
the
flowers
and
the
trash
the
I
don't
see.
I
don't
know
if
I
see
existing
trash
receptacles
that
need
to
be
repaired
and
replaced
in
the
same
category
as
new
beautification
details
as
the
flowers,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
we
need
to
go
vote
on
them
on
the
same
time
or
if
we
need
to
lump
them
together.
I
personally
would
like
to
see
some
of
the
receptacles
and
disrepair
you
know
swapped
out
with
some
new
stuff.
C
C
For
the
next
year,
people
see
some
new
were
activity
or
newer,
refreshing
of
some
of
the
assets
we
have
on
the
avenue
versus
just
a
two
dollar
increase,
all
of
a
sudden,
with
with
just
more
more
pen
broom,
not
necessarily,
you
know,
steady
fixtures
that
we
see
every
day
driving
by
so
again.
I
don't
know
where
that
leaves
us
or
where
that
puts
the
momentum
of
votes
or
proposals,
but
I
just
I'm
kind
of
confused
on
where,
where
we
are.
B
Yeah
so
may
I'll
just
jump
in
on
a
couple
things,
so
we
can
purchase
the
the
trash
decepticles
and
had
suggested
eight
new
trash
receptacles.
We
can
put
the
order
in
now
and
get
those
deployed
yet
this
year,
so
those
you
in
terms
of
visual
impact
that
would
be
a
2021
impact,
meaning
this
year
the
hanging
baskets.
We
would
purchase
them
this
year
with
planned
deployment
for
next
spring
for
the
growing
season.
B
B
What
you're
talking
about
is
having
the
the
the
22
000.
If
you
were
to
go
up
to
178
000,
so
increase
by
30,
just
so
everybody's
clear
what
that
would
buy.
You
is
approximately
eight
thousand
dollars
for
hanging
baskets
and
I'll
leave
it
like
that,
because
if
we
go
faux
it
means
you
could
just
buy
more
hanging
baskets
next
year.
In
addition
to
phase
one
of
the
deployment
that
would
already
be
in
place
in
the
spring
you
we
could.
B
You
know
we
could
buy
more
or
if
you
go
faux,
we
could
add
more
planters.
If
you
don't
go
full,
you
would
have
the
dollars
in
your
budget
to
do
a
full
12
month
of
maintenance
and
plant
material
for
the
the
hanging
baskets
that
we're
going
to
buy
this
year.
So
that's
what
it
that's!
8
000
of
that
30
000
increase
the
remaining
22
000
in
increase
in
this
scenario,
let's
be
clear,
would
buy
you
approximately
24
weeks
of
additional
pain
and
broom
one
time
a
week,
pain
and
broom
services.
C
B
Yeah,
so
we're
we're
actually
doing
two
things:
one.
We
are
going
to
be
bidding
we're
bidding
your
district
in
two
ways.
As
we've
talked
about
in
the
past,
one
is
going
to
be
the
rfp
route
with
the
preferential
requirements
that
the
board
that
we
talked
about
extensively
over
the
last
year.
The
other
ways
we're
going
to
bid
it
on
the
standard
bid
process.
B
We
don't
need
to
go
in
a
lot
of
detail
unless
the
group
wants
to
right
now,
but
we're
doing
that
in
part
because
the
the
rfp
process-
it's
it's,
not
a
guarantee
that
we'll
end
up
with
a
vendor
that,
through
at
the
end
of
that
process,
just
because
of
the
requirements
that
and
the
preferences
that
the
group
has
put
out
there.
So
that's
why
we
want
to
backstop
it
with
a
standard
contract,
so
that
will
be
rebid
actually
later
this
summer.
B
C
B
B
D
I
yeah,
I
I
think
20
is
aggressive,
justin
as
well.
I
I,
I
just
think
it's
a
shock
to
to
the
the
rate
payer
to
see
20
increase.
That's
why
I
was
interested
in
seeing
more
along
the
15
route.
I
know
it
doesn't
seem
like
that.
Much
and
ironically,
I'm
I'm
sort
of
laughing
on
one
end
that
we're
only
talking
about
30
000,
which
is
really
not
that
much
money
for
the
the
length
of
our
avenue
overall.
But
you
know
it
does
impact
those
people
who
aren't
expecting
it
and
I
it
I.
D
D
You
know
from
you
know
those
years,
those
years
that
I
struggled
as
a
as
a
small
operator
to
try
and
make
things
work
and
all
of
a
sudden,
these
you
know
shocks
to
my
system
from
taxes
and
stuff.
I
I
just
I
wanna
I
wanna
try
to
be
mindful
of
that
impact
on
the
small
business
owner
and
the
large
business
too.
I
mean
you
know
the
the
property
owners
that
have
you
know:
2
000,
linear
feet.
You
know
granted
they're
going
to
pass
it
on
to
their
tenants
for
the
most
part,
but
I
just.
G
I
think
I
heard
justin
say
this
and-
and
I
would
agree
with
it-
maybe
this
is
a
phased
proposal
and
let's
do
the
garbage
cans
instead
of
doing
eight.
Maybe
we
do
10
or
12
this
year
and
then
come
back
to
the
planters
next
year
and
continue
on
with
the
planters
and
the
way
we're
doing
them
now
and
then
just
eliminate
that
additional
cost.
G
If
we
did
at
1250,
if
we
did
12
planters,
that
would
be
if
we
have
50
000
surplus
this
year.
We
expect
to
use
half
of
that
on
the
third
day
of
service.
That
leaves
us
with
25
000
left
if
we
spent
1250
of
that
on
garbage
cans,
there's
the
potential
for
an
additional
12.50
to
roll
into
this
budget,
next
year's
budget
into
the
2022
budget,
and
then
we
can
visit
where
they're
not
doing
the
planters.
D
D
B
So
the
only
issue
is,
I
don't
know
what
the
timing
is
on
the
next
great
street
cycle
last
year.
It
got
for
many
years.
It
was
the
deadline
was
in
february,
I
think,
and
then
it
was
funds
deployment
later
that
summer,
so,
five
months
later,
roughly
speaking,
okay,
five
six
months
later,
the
last
year,
I
believe
the
deadline
was
in
august
and
not
in
february.
I
think
they
delayed
it
because
coving
was
starting
to
impact
everything.
B
So
just
as
something
to
think
about
from
a
I
mean,
that's
wbc,
I
mean
I'm
not
saying
it
has
to
be
that
way,
I'm
just
something
to
think
about
where
sometimes
another
non-profit
can
come
in
and
you
know
like
west
broadway
is
a
corridor.
There
are
multiple
great
streets
grants
that
go
to
different
non-profits
in
the
corridor,
as
you
guys
probably
know
so
so
I
just
throw
that
out
as
a
me
trying
to
be
helpful
and
constructive
that
we,
I
don't
presume
today
that
it
has
to
wbc,
but
it
certainly
could
be
so.
A
Yeah,
I
would
say
that
you
probably
have
a
better
chance
if
it
is
a
different
non-profit,
because
they
wbc
typically
does
ask
for
the
full
amount
of
that
grant
when,
when
it's
available,
so
if
there
was
a
different
non-profit
that
came
in
you're,
probably
gonna
have
a
better
chance
of
getting
money
towards
these.
These
items.
D
F
D
Okay,
do
you
think
that's
something
that
your
organization
would
consider
applying
for
some
of
that
it
would
certainly,
and
that
way
you
could
use
it
literally
on
on
your
block.
Is
that
what
would
is
that
a
safe
statement
that,
with
especially
with
your
new
development,
that
something
you
would
consider
well.
G
G
B
Yeah
yeah
james,
just
and
I
know
we're
just
kind
of
talking
about
this.
Generally
there
there
there
potentially
is
a
way
where
it
could
be
a
pass-through
where
there's
there's
there
wouldn't
be
any
implied,
ongoing
responsibility
to
the
applicant
and-
and
I
say
that
you
know
when
we've
had
neighborhood
groups-
apply
for
great
street
grants
on
behalf
of
ssds
like
we
just
did
it
all
internally.
B
We
bought
the
stuff
transferred
the
funds
internally
and
we
just
went
out
and
bought
the
stuff
and
put
it
out
the
service
district,
just
serviced
them
from
that
point
forward.
So
then
the
neighborhood
group,
you
know
other
than
applying.
Almost
I
mean
they
had
as
much
involvement
as
they
wanted,
but
it
it
it
was
limited
just
because
it
didn't
need
to
be
more
extensive,
yeah
on.
A
B
B
You
know
I'm
making
this
up
18
to
20
weeks
of
wednesday
pain
in
broom
next
year,
okay,
subject
to
re-bidding
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
and
then
the
that
maybe
there's
a
five
thousand
dollars
out
of
that
or
seven
thousand
out
of
that
22.
That
goes
in
the
landscape,
maintenance
and
repair
line
item
to
buttress.
That
with
the
idea
that,
while
we
won't
what
I
hear
is
not
buying
hanging
baskets
this
year,
but
at
least
having
the
dollars.
If
you
wanted
to
buy
some
next
year,.
B
D
B
B
The
line
item
number
one
for
litter
and
debris
management
would
move
to
128
thousand
dollars.
The
landscape,
maintenance
and
repair
line
item
would
become
twenty
one
thousand
dollars.
The
streetscape
maintenance
and
repair
would
remain
at
twelve
thousand,
and
the
seasonal
decorations
would
remain
at
nine
thousand.
If
you
add
those
up,
I
get
170
000.
and
that
would
be
approximately
a
15
or
so
percent
increase
in
the
service
charges.
Is
that
what
I'm
hearing.
D
B
Good
any
further
discussion
specifically
on
the
budget,
and
I
want
to
come
back
and
cover
up
a
cover,
not
cover
up
cover
a
few
quick
details
and
things
we
just
talked
about.
If
there's
no
further
discussion,
I'll
call
the
role
on
the
motion
to
adopt
the
2022
budget
and
work
plan
recommendation
is
revised.
Justin
baylor.
E
B
Scott
and
tara
watson
is
not
present.
That
budget
recommendation
is
adopted.
Thank
you
and
the
clarifying
piece,
the
what
we
will
do
is
so,
let's
come
back
to
what
you
want
to
buy
this
year.
So
thank
you.
We've
got
a
budget
recommendation
for
next
year
that
will
go
to
council
in
september,
just
like
in
prior
years
operating
plan.
B
Coming
back
to
the
2021
expenditures,
I've
heard
a
couple
different
things,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
what
I'm
hearing
is
consensus
to
purchase
some
number
of
trash
receptacles
at
least
eight,
perhaps
more
so,
let's
talk
about
what
that
number
is.
That
would
be
purchased
and
deployed
yet
this
year,
and
I'm
also
hearing
that
there
is
a
desire,
at
least
at
this
point,
to
not
buy
any
hanging
baskets
with
the
aspirational
goal
that
maybe
one
or
more
non-profits
may
apply
for
great
streets
funds
to
provide
those
funds.
Is
that
accurate.
B
D
C
C
B
C
D
B
G
B
Oh
yeah
yeah,
fair
question,
so
absolutely
in
the
districts
that
have
one
sort
recycling
that
material
is
absolutely.
We
use
a
separate
color
bag.
So
that's
why,
with
one
truck
they're
able
to
distinguish
what's
recycling
versus
trash,
we
we
do
find
and
we
have
a
number
of
districts
in
it
with
different
business
characteristics.
B
By
and
large,
we
have
had
good
success
with
a
what
I
would
describe
as
a
low
contamination
level
contamination
being
trash
in
recycling
receptacles.
When
it
does
happen,
it
tends
to
be
sort
of
wish
cycling.
If
you
will
people
think
something
is
recyclable
when
in
fact
it
isn't
so
the
we've
actually
had
good
luck
in
districts
that
have
the
one
sort
recycling
receptacles.
B
I
would
throw
out
that
just
and
I
I'm
gonna
speak
a
little
out
of
school
here
because
I
don't
know
the
details,
but
we
have
had
some
districts
in
the
past
that
have
been
able
to
take
advantage
of
a
hennepin
county
recycling
grant
program
to
help
offset
the
purchase
of
those
one
sort
recycling
reception,
so
that
you
know
just
hearing
kind
of
the
way
the
conversation
has
gone
here.
We
we
could
my
thinking
I'll
just
throw
this
out.
B
Let's
buy
the
10
trash
receptacles
this
year
and
we
could
look
into
whether
that
there's
still
any
hennepin
county
program
type
dollars
that
might
be
available
for
one
sort,
receptacles
and
maybe
at
the
next
meeting.
We
could
just
report
out
to
the
group
what
we've
learned
and
then
you
could
make
a
decision.
If
there
is
a
grant
program,
you
know
there's
usually
a
match
requirement,
so
we
could
have
a
discussion
about
that.
If
there's
not,
if
there
aren't
grant
dollars
available
for
it,
then
we
can
still
have
the
conversation.
B
We
can
it's
pretty
straightforward
for
us
to
buy
these
receptacles
so
that
that's
not
a
hard
thing
for
us
to
do
sometimes
new,
adding
new
stuff.
We
have
to
write
new
specs
and
it
gets
a
little
bit
more
time
consuming
and
in
the
bid
process.
But
as
I
mentioned,
because
we
can
buy
the
recycling
through
the
state
contract
as
well,
so
we
can
buy
these
things
pretty
in
a
pretty
straightforward
manner.
So
so
that
might
be
one
idea.
B
The
other
thing
is:
if,
if
there
is
a
group
or
more
one
or
more
groups,
that
is
willing
to
apply
for
great
streets
dollars,
it
could
be
a
complement
of
things.
It
could
be
hanging
baskets,
it
could
be
trash
receptacles
and
it
could
be
recycling
receptacles
as
well.
So
it
could
just
be
a
streetscape
furniture
type,
great
streets
application,
for
example.
B
B
You
can
use
other
dollars
just
to
be
clear.
Great
streets
is
just
an
obvious
one,
the
districts,
but
if,
if
there's
other
corporate
interests
or
other
mechanisms
that
that
the
business
community
is
aware
of
to
apply
for
those
dollars,
you
know
by
all
means
those
can
be
applied
for
and
we
can
deploy
the
dollars,
we're
very
good
at
deploying
other
people's
money.
If
that's
helpful,
to
know
so
the
so
there's
a
kind
of
layers
of
jokes
in
there
isn't
there
here's
a
humor,
but
so.
G
B
That
that
definitely
may
be
we
won't.
We
won't
take
any
action,
we've
kind
of
been
able
to
do
some
other
stuff
with
hennepin
county,
so
we'll
find
it
we'll
confirm
if
that
would
apply
to
an
ssd.
But
let's,
based
on
this
conversation,
why
don't
we
just
come
back
to
that
once
we
are
confirmed
on
what
that
looks
like
and
then
again.
B
In
the
meantime,
we
we
would
not
be
lead
on
any
again
just
to
be
clear
on
the
on
the
great
streets
grant,
so
that
would
be
the
business
community,
finding
a
non-profit
and
and
submitting
that
that
application,
so
that
so
just
to
to
tie
up
that.
That
item
a
long
conversation.
So
one
other
thing
just
and
we're
really
long
here,
but-
and
maybe
I
can
just
kind
of
plant
the
seed
unless
the
group
wants
to
do
something
else.
B
But
we
do
have
a
concern
about
the
the
the
age
of
your
some
of
your
holiday
decor.
We
from
our
perspective,
you
have
definitely
gotten
the
useful
life
out
of
some
of
your
holiday
decor,
specifically
those
items
that
they
were
kind
of
like
the
the
snowflakes
and
they
were
kind
of
mylar
and
they
kind
of
look.
I
call
them
fuzzy
because
they
they
were
kind
of
had
a
soft
texture
to
them.
They
they
used
to
be
white.
They
are
no
longer
a
white
mylar,
so
we
can.
B
If
that
is
something
the
group
I
mean
you
don't
have
to
do
the
snowflakes
to
be
clear
or
the
fuzzy
ones,
there's
other
snowflake
or
other
holiday
decor,
but
just
wanted
to
ask
the
group
if
there's
a
at
least
a
consensus
here
today
on
put
up
what
we
have
get
one
more
year
out
of
it
think
about
next
spring.
You
know,
depending
on
the
outcome
of
some
of
these
other
conversations,
it
is
something
we
could
potentially
buy
next
summer
for
installation
in
the
fall
of
2022
is
another
sort
of
time
window.
B
B
E
D
B
F
Agreed
it
in
you
know
things
like.
I
don't
know.
If
great
streets
would
fund,
you
know
street
decor
decorations
again,
you
know
to
michael's
point
we're
you
know.
Is
these
one-time?
You
know
asset
type
purchases.
Are
you
know
a
lot?
It's
a
big
lump
sum
up
front,
but
service
district
is
pretty
good
at
budgeting
to
you
know,
install
them
maintain
them.
Take
them
down,
store
them.
Do
all
that
stuff,
so
possible
request.
You
know
more
more.
The
kind
of
streetscape
assets
that
might
might
fall
into
that
grant.
F
B
D
B
D
How
about
that
gentlemen,
I
I
just
want
to
bring
up
one
topic
that
has
the
the
conversation
has
been
ongoing
about
the
wbc
retaking
or
reclaiming
its
business
improvement
district.
I
don't
want
to
have
any
further
discussion
during
this
meeting.
I
just
want
it
brought
up
so
that
you're
aware
that
we
would
like
to
have
those
discussions
in
the
future
and
understand
what
will
be
necessary
for
that
to
occur,
just
to
put
it
on
the
radar.
F
Yeah
sounds
good,
and
you
know
if
there's
an
update
in
terms
of
if
there
are
new
people
at
the
wbc,
that
we
need
to
at
some
point
get
to
know
and
meet.
You
know
we
can
start
with
some
of
those
introductions
that
you
know
that
would
be
nice
to
to
meet
some
of
the
folks
working
there
to
at
least
build
a
rapport
before
we,
you
know
meet
for
the
first
time
and.
D
E
D
E
C
A
B
We
don't
when
you
go
in
and
do
it
it's
actually
the
it's
the
city
attorney's
office,
that
tracks
that,
along
with
the
city
clerk-
and
we
don't
have
direct
access
to
when
people
do
the
training.
So
that's
why
we
kind
of
have
to
hedge,
because
we
don't
we
don't
have
great
line
of
sight.
We
just
have
to
remind
people
to
do
it.
A
D
A
F
G
B
I
think
the
fairest
way
to
say
is
if,
if
wbc
is
interested,
I
think
it
would
be
best
by
the
end
of
the
first
quarter
of
2022,
and
that
would
give
the
city
some
time
to
evaluate
in
the
second
quarter
of
2022,
so
that
the
because
you
know
by
the
end
of
the
second
quarter
is
when
we're
preparing
the
budget
for
the
next
year.
So
that
would
be
the
timing
for
like
a
2023,
so
that
that
would
be
my
general
guidance
is.