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A
B
Thanks
bjorn
all
right,
so
I
am
going
to
try
to
go
in
order
based
on
the
participants
list
that
I'm
able
to
see
on
teams.
If
I
miss
you
at
the
very
end,
know
that
it
was
not
on
purpose
and
please
just
flag
it
for
us
and
when
we
get
towards
the
end.
So
the
first
person
on
here
I
see
is
an
anna
johnson
or
anna
johnson.
C
Hi,
my
name
is
anna
johnson.
I
guess
there's
a
lot
of
things,
I'm
interested
in
and
excited
about,
drawing
down
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
doing
so
in
a
way
that
prioritizes
racial
equity
and
climate
justice
along
the
way,
including
you
know,
access
to
energy
efficiency
and
affordable
energy,
and
I
guess
lots
of
different
things,
also.
Cumulative
impacts
of
pollutants
and
environmental
harms,
including
exposure
to
air
pollution
from
the
herc
and
other
point
source
facilities.
B
Great
thanks
anna
barbara
you're,
currently
on
mute,
barbara.
D
Hi,
I'm
barbara
lundy.
I
think
that
there
aren't
any
other
barbers,
so
I
enjoy
being
on
this
commission
and
I
well
I
put
in
a
statement.
Science
is
real
several
times
in
my
nomination
thing
and
I
think
it
is
in
fact
it
is
so
I
I've
observed
that
there
are.
I
I
too
am
I'm
certainly
aware
of
climate
change
and
think
that
it
does
exist
and-
and
it
would
be
great
to
everybody,
use
less
energy
and
less
other
resources,
make
it
last
for
more
generations.
D
So,
and
it's
good
to
have
goals
by
say
stated
by
excel,
which
means
we
may
not
have
much
to
do
with,
but
in
the
city
and
different
aspects
of
the
city,
and
it's
even
good
to
have
aspirational
goals.
Aspirational
goals
are
those
that
are
not
backed
up
by
science.
D
Such
as
excel
wants
to
use
all
wants
to
use
carbon-carbon-free
by
2050,
and
that
implies
the
use
still
of
nuclear
energy,
and
even
so,
that's
very
it's
pretty
aspirational
because
there's
no
known
practical
way
of
storing
energy,
for
you
know
even
overnight,
all
the
energy
that
we
use
or
certainly
not,
for
you
know
the
month
of
december
and
those
may
be
developed.
They
may
be
developed
in
the
next
few
few
months
but
and
years,
but
right
now
they
don't
exist.
So
science
is
real,
they
don't
exist.
E
D
And
it's
worth
spending
stating
them
as
an
aspirational
goal
and
studying
what
it
would
take
to
to
attain
it,
such
as
storage
of
energy
for
a
certain
period
and
also
supply
of
energy
by
non-carbon
sources
and
so
forth,
but
to
actually
spend
money.
Implementing
changes
in
our
our
whole
energy
system
based
on
aspirational
goals,
is
perhaps
a
waste
of
money,
because
science
is
real
and
they
are
only
aspirational
goals.
There's
no
way
right
now
that
we
know
how
to
even
attain
it.
B
Thanks
barbara
indigo.
F
Hi
my
name's
indigo
and
I
usually
them
pronouns.
I'm
really
excited
to
learn
just
more
about
how
the
city
works
and
see
how
we
can
support
the
the
east
phillips
neighborhood
project,
and
I,
I
think
that's
a
really
cool
project.
People
are
working
on
and
I
would
love
to
see
yeah
how
this
community
could
support
that
and
after
covid
I
would
I'm
really.
I'm
really
excited
honestly
to
probably
just
go
back
to
in-person
classes,
because
I'm
a
student
and
online
has
been
really
hard
for
me.
B
H
G
I'm
looking
forward
to
learning
more
about
the
city,
different
ways
that
I
can
assist.
Just
you
know
being
a
everyday
citizen,
you
don't
I
don't
know
you
don't
have
that
many
ways
to
be
connected,
so
I
look
forward
to
being
connected
with
you
all
through
various
projects.
G
I
also
really
care
about
east
phillips.
I
think
that
that's
a
really
important
initiative
and
I
think
it's
really
important
to
support
specifically
bypoc
youth,
having
green
jobs
and
being
a
part
of
that,
the
future.
Instead
of
being
separate
from
it.
You
know
developing
in
them.
You
know
it
only
helps
us
all.
We
have
a
future
and
they're
they're
the
leaders,
so
it's
really
important
to
invest
in
them,
especially
with
everything
that
they've
been
through.
I
look
forward
to
like
going
to
places
like
I
don't
know.
G
I've
actually
enjoyed
restaurants
with
nobody
in
them.
It's
been
really
nice,
but
I
really
look
forward
to
like
just
like
concerts
like
I
had
a
really
important
concert
I
wanted
to
go
to,
but
it
was
cancelled
and
I
couldn't
give
my
my
insurance
didn't
cover
the
coronavirus
I
was
so
upset,
but
it's
fine
like.
I
hope
that
I
can
go
to
a
different
concert,
but
that's
something
I
look
forward
to
and
thank
you
all
for
your
time
and
I
look
forward
to
getting
to
know
everybody.
I
Hello,
I'm
julia
and
you
see
her
pronouns
and
calling
in
from
word
nine,
and
I
think,
as
was
mentioned
earlier,
I'm
the
new
green
zone
coordinator
with
the
vista
printing
coordinator
with
the
sustainability
division.
I
So
I'm
just
interested
to
yeah
check
out
this
meeting
and
meet
all
of
you
and
see
what's
going
on
in
terms
of
what
I
want
to
do
when
code
is
over.
I
I
I
really
just
want
to
like
have
a
friend
over
to
my
house
and
like
eat
food
together
and
like
sit
near
each
other
on
a
couch.
That
would
be
really
nice.
J
Hi,
I'm
lauren,
I
use
she
her
pronouns,
I'm
interested
in
specifically
like
sustainability
in
buildings
and
zero
energy
and
zero
carbon
buildings
and
and
thinking
about
how
the
city
of
minneapolis,
if
they're,
giving
out
building
permits,
can
make
sure
that
new
and
remodeled
buildings
are
efficient
for
for
our
city
and
like
anna
I'm
looking
forward
to
playing
team
sports
and
hopefully
on
a
team
with
anna,
because
we've
we've
played
on
teams
before
in
the
past.
So
it's
good
to
see
her
here.
B
H
I
see
that
as
a
real
challenge
that
we
need
to
figure
out
one
of
the
big
reasons.
My
wife
and
I
moved
into
minneapolis
five
years
ago.
After
being
suburbanites,
most
of
our
life
was
to
get
more
involved
with
neighborhood
events.
You
know
we
live
in
a
in
a
neighborhood
that
has
great
get-togethers
and
we've
met
a
lot
of
really
super
neighbors,
but
we
just
haven't
been
able
to
get
together
in
the
backyards
and
alleys
like
we
did
before.
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
that.
B
K
Hey
my
name's
matthew,
I
use
he
him
pronouns
and
yeah.
One
environmental
issue
I'm
really
interested
in
is
reducing
energy
burdens
and
using
energy
fish
efficiency
as
a
tool
for
equity
and
making
energy
more
affordable
for
folks
in
minneapolis
and
beyond,
and
one
thing
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
is
just
like
being
in
a
house
with
a
bunch
of
friends
like
like
15
would
be
awesome.
So
looking
forward
to
that.
L
Hey
everyone
max
dalton
here
him.
I
guess
what
I
really
enjoy
environmentally
is.
We
know
how
to
do
certain
things,
but
what
I
really
enjoy
is
thinking
about.
How
can
we
do
them
better?
So
we
know
how
to
recycle.
How
can
we
recycle
better?
We
know
salt
is
bad
for
our
water
resources.
How
can
we
think
about
you
know
reducing
salt
impact,
so
you
know
knowing
what
we
do
well
and
improving
on.
That
is
what
really
drives
me
environmentally
and
something
that
I'm
looking
forward
to
is.
L
M
N
Hello,
I'm
nick
minderman,
I'm
acclimating
to
my
new
life
in
ward
7,
just
moved
a
couple
months
ago
from
word
three
and
my
office
space.
It's
a
work
from
home
necessity.
Now,
unfortunately,
I'm
working
one
of
the
things
I'm
looking
forward
to
is
getting
to
see
my
co-workers
in
person.
My
my
area
of
I
kind
of
have
two
specific
areas
of
interest,
one
that
I'm
kind
of
professionally
suited
for
and
then
my
my
outside
of
day
job
interest
so
professionally.
N
And
then
my
outside
of
the
day.
Job
interest
is
really
attacking
the
non-point
source
of
the
transportation
system.
N
And
so
we
need
to
start
thinking
about
that
now,
so
that
we
can
ultimately
do
this
in
a
way
that
meets
the
triple
bottom
line,
ideal
of
both
social,
economic
and
environmental,
because
I
think
my
my
belief
is
that
it
is
feasible
to
hit
all
three
of
those.
But
you
have
to
be
methodical
and
how
you
approach
it.
N
What
I'm
looking
forward
to!
In
addition
to
seeing
my
co-workers,
I
have
a
daughter
who's
just
about
two
and
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
being
able
to
take
her
to
the
playground
and
not
having
to
do
that.
Awkward
dance
with
the
other
parents
of
like
how
close
can
the
kids
get
with
one
of
the
two
parents
being
uncomfortable
with
proximity.
B
D
D
D
O
That's
all
right,
I
just
wanted
to
say,
welcome
to
ward
7
nick
I'm
toyah
lopez
and
I
work
for
health
professionals
for
healthy
climate
and
that
mostly
revolves
around
educating
both
the
the
community
and
legislators
and
other
decision
bodies,
the
decision-making
bodies
on
the
health
impacts
of
climate
change,
educating
health
professionals
on
environmental
issues
and
climate
change,
and
then
also
working
on
improving
the
footprint
of
the
health
industry
itself.
O
And
I
I
forget
what
the
question
was
again,
but
I
can
tell
you
what
I'm
not
looking
forward
to
is
in-person
meetings.
I've
been
having
a
good
I.
I
know
people
don't
like
zoom
meetings,
but
I
actually
really
like
zoom
meetings
and
I
don't
like
to
have,
because
I
I
use
public
transportation
and
walk
and
bike
and
so
not
having
to
go
across
the
town.
To
go
to
a
meeting
is
like
amazing.
So.
B
I
can
definitely
feel
you
on
that.
One
jacqueline.
E
I'm
excited
to
be
on
this
commission
and
learn
more
about
how
it
works
and
contribute
to
lowering
emissions
and
also
getting
community
involved
and
engaged
in
city
planning
and
decisions
like
that,
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
being
able
to
visit
my
nieces
and
nephews
in
california,
as
well
as
make
meals
for
people
and
share
them
in
person.
M
B
Yeah-
and
I
know
that
I
left
off
the
staff,
but
are
there
any
other
besides
julia?
Are
there
any
other
seac
members
that
I
missed
leslie
leslie,
sorry
about
that
phone
calls
I'm
really
bad
at
remembering
the
names
go
for
it.
Leslie.
P
P
Then,
as
far
as
when
the
covet's
over
we
can
do
stuff,
I'm
I
too
want
to
travel.
I
have
a
passport
and
it's
like
I
need
to
get
stamps
on
there,
so
I
definitely
looking
forward
to
traveling.
Also
I
notice
when
I
look
in
the
notes.
My
name
is
spelled
differently
and
my
name
is
ellie
s,
capital,
l,
e
e
and
it's
one
spelling,
correct
and
then
the
next
it's
not
so.
I
just
want
that
to
be
noted.
B
Q
Thanks
aaron,
so
my
name
is
kim
havey,
I'm
director
of
sustainability
for
the
city
of
minneapolis
and
I'll,
be
the
staff
person
that
supports
seac
and
administers
you
know
the
various
details
in
order
to
make
the
meetings
come
together
and
also
obviously
be
a
conduit
and
resource
from
the
city
around
sustainability.
Q
We
have.
My
area
has
a
number
of
different
organizations
that
we
staff,
including
the
energy
vision,
advisory
committee,
the
clean
energy
partnership,
the
north
and
south
side,
green
zones
and
c.
So
we've
got
quite
a
few
folks.
We've
got
five
staff
members
and,
as
we
know,
we
just
got
a
new
vista
intern
as
well,
so
we've
got
a
lot
of
things
going
on
around
all
of
those
various
different
aspects
that
folks
have
mentioned-
and
I
know
leslie
had
mentioned
storm
water.
Q
We
will
be
having
a
presentation
next
month
on
the
store,
water,
ordinance
and
new
fee
structure,
it's
being
updated
for
the
first
time
in
10
years,
and
I
think
that's
a
really
excellent
topic,
because
we
are
on
the
mississippi
river.
We
are
part
of
one
of
the
largest
watersheds
in
the
world
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
whatever
we're
doing
is
making
a
positive
impact
and
not
causing
harm.
So,
but
we've
that's
one
of
the
things.
Q
I
think
we
want
to
talk
more
about
as
well
in
our
next
meeting
around
the
topics
of
interest
and
what
we
want
to
prioritize
for
2021
and
looking
forward.
So
bjorn
is
here
I'll
turn
it
over
to
him.
Q
He
is
helping
tonight
to
capture
notes
and
make
sure
things
are
flowing
smoothly,
and
I
too
want
to
echo
what
I
want
to
do
after
this
coved,
which
I
made
you
even
though
it
is
going
on,
is
I
I
need
to
get
somewhere
where
I
can
be
outside
and
gather
some
sunshine
and
warmth
for
a
little
while,
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
traveling
again
bjorn,
do
you
want
to
introduce
yourself
sure
thanks.
A
Kim,
hey
everybody,
I'm
bjorn
olson.
I
use
he
him
pronouns,
I'm
a
sustainability
program
coordinator
with
the
city
of
minneapolis,
so
I'm
working
for
kim,
as
he
mentioned
tonight,
I'm
kind
of
here
as
a
backup
taking
notes,
you
know
being
the
second
in
in
command
or
you
know,
recording
and
things
of
somebody's
internet
goes
out.
So
we
have
a.
We
have
a
plan
b
for
that.
A
My
work
is,
is
primarily
around
greenhouse
gas
emission
reduction
in
our
sustainability
or
sustainable
building
policy
that
we're
developing
and
also
our
energy
benchmarking
program
for
a
lot
of
our
over
50
000
square
foot
building.
So
you
know,
approaching
things
with
an
equity
lens
and
an
environmental
justice
lens
is
is
really
something
that
we're
moving
forward
with
and
and
working
internally
as
well
as
externally
on,
and
it
sounds
like
there's
a
lot
of
great
opportunities
to
work
with
folks
here
in
the
future.
Coming
up.
A
So
I'm
super
excited
about
that
post
covid.
We
need
to
get
some
some
babysitters
up
in
our
house.
My
my
wife
and
I
had
twins
in
may
and
we're
the
the
wheels
are
starting
to
come
off.
So
we
just
we
just
anybody
warm
bodies,
anybody
on
the
call,
if
you're
interested,
let
me
know
so
that'll
that'll-
be
what
we're
looking
forward
looking
forward
to.
So
thanks,
everybody.
B
B
So
moving
on
into
the
next
part
of
the
agenda,
I
had
sent
out
a
survey
just
to
get
a
better
sense
of
some
of
the
questions
new
members
had
about
what
seac
is
and
how
we
interact
with
each
other
and
then
about
some
of
the
different
priorities.
So
I
did
just
want
to
run
through
that
and
afterwards,
we'll
run
through
a
question
and
answer
session.
B
B
B
Unless
it's
gonna
die,
okay,
can
everybody
see
this,
and
can
you
still
hear
me
yep
fantastic?
Thank
you.
So
I
know
that
we
just
went
through
and
introduced
ourselves
to
each
other.
I
wanted
to
just
show
this
list,
the
list
of
seat
members
and
how
it's
broken
down
by
ward.
So
you
can
see
that
we
don't
quite
have
the
entire
city's
geography
covered
ward
wise.
B
But
this
is
definitely
something
that's
been
improving.
Over
the
last
several
years
of
the
community
environmental
advisory
commission,
we
used
to
be
very
heavily
leaned
towards
about
three
wards,
so
I
really
appreciate
that
that
there's
been
interest
from
different
parts
of
the
city,
and
this
list
of
members
is
also
on
the
limbs
website.
B
So
the
legislative
information
management
system,
if
that's
what
lim
stands
for
and
it's
where
you
can
find
the
ciac
agendas
meeting
minutes
and
then
find
out
a
list
of
all
the
all
the
folks
who
are
on
c-
and
I
just
wanted
to
go
through
a
few
highlights
about
some
of
the
structural
things
that
are
put
into
place
when
it
comes
to
c.
B
B
Thank
you
nick.
So
we
ended
up
changing
the
enabling
resolution
to
try
to
make
sure
that
membership.
What
should
could
be
more
reflective
of
those
who
live
and
work
within
the
city
of
minneapolis?
B
Previously
ciac
membership
was
allocated
to
four
people
representing
environmental
advocacy
groups,
four
people
representing
businesses
for
technical
advisors,
four
residents
and
then
three
people
who
were
appointed
through
various
government
bodies,
so
the
park
board
hennepin
county
and
then
the
minneapolis
public
schools.
B
So
we
kind
of
like,
through
the
changing
of
the
enabling
resolution,
we
took
away
those
categories
to
just
try
to
make
it
be
more
reflective
of
the
community
aspect
of
the
community
environmental
advisory
commission
and
it's
something
that
we're
continuing
to
work
on
and
change
over
time
per
our
enabling
resolution.
We
can
suggest
environmental
priorities
for
city
policies,
programs
and
projects
using
criteria,
including,
but
not
limited
to
natural
and
built
environmental
impact.
Community
impact
timeliness,
environmental
justice
and
equity
and
seak
is
supported
by
the
sustainability
division.
B
B
All
voting
is
done
with
those
who
are
present.
Voting
by
proxy
isn't
allowed.
So
if,
for
some
reason
I
couldn't
make
a
seat
meeting,
I
couldn't
have
my
friend
step
in
for
me
and
vote
for
me
in
a
meeting
in
time
sensitive,
and
I
also
couldn't
vote
like
ahead
of
time
either
in
time-sensitive
cases.
Draft
comments
can
be
submitted
by
the
chair
or
vice
chair.
As
long
as
the
document
states
that
the
comments
are
subject
to
review
and
acceptance
by
ciac.
B
We
haven't
really
had
to
use
this
much,
but
it
is
a
way
that
we
can
have
some
wiggle
room
if
there
is
something
that
comes
up
really
quickly,
that
we
just
don't
have
a
time
to
put
together
a
meeting
or
have
chance
to
discuss
things
together
in
this
sort
of
a
format
chair
and
vice
chair
shall
be
elected
within
ziac
by
a
majority
vote
of
members
present
at
a
meeting,
and
the
election
shall
be
held
no
later
than
the
second
meeting
of
the
calendar
year.
B
So
that's
part
of
the
reason
why
I
was
saying
I'm
current
chair
at
the
next
meeting.
One
of
the
first
things
that
we'll
be
doing
is
holding
a
vote
to
determine
the
new
chair
and
vice
chair
of
siak
and
so
towards
the
end
of
the
meeting
I'll,
be
describing
a
little
bit
more
about
like
what
the
chair
and
vice
chair
roles
are.
B
I
know
I
sent
that
to
everyone
via
email
and
it
would
be
helpful
to
know
if
anybody
who
is
on
the
call
today
and
then
we
can
also
ask
those
who
might
be
be
not
able
to
be
present
today
who
might
be
running
so
that
we
can
let
everybody
know,
and
at
the
february
meeting
we'll
probably
have
all
those
candidates
have,
like
short,
maybe
two
minute
speeches
just
to
try
to
get
a
sense
of
who
we
would
want
to
vote
for,
since
we're
all
still
getting
to
know
each
other.
D
I
have
a
question
a
couple
short
questions.
Your
staff
is
that
correct
that
your
staff
from
the
city
I.
B
Am
I
am
not,
I
am
well
I'm
erin
nehoff.
I
do
not
work
at
the
city
of
minneapolis,
but
I
have
been
the
chair
for
seac
for
three
years.
D
D
B
Yeah,
but
it
would
be
something
where,
like
everybody
else,
I
would
have
to
state
that
I
was
running
and
I
wouldn't
need
to
be
elected.
D
And
then
I
guess
one
more
question:
it
seemed
like
you're
treating
us
as
if
we're
sort
of
all
new
members-
or
I
certainly
am-
but
are
we
all
new
members
or
how
many
of
us
are
our
holdovers?
You
might
say
here
great.
B
Question
so
the
folks
who
are
hold
up
holdovers,
who
were
members
last
term,
include
sandy
mark
and
nick.
B
It
has
been
over
the
last
few
years,
but
that's
mostly
just
because
of
how
the
the
body
itself
has
been
changing.
Culturally.
B
I
would
say
that
a
lot
of
people
chose
not
to
run
again
from
last
year
into
this
year
because
of
all
of
the
racial
equity
concerns
that
have
been
coming
up
in
the
city
of
minneapolis,
and
they
really
wanted
to
make
sure
that
they,
you
know,
were
prioritized
over
someone
else
who
might
really
want
to
have
a
shop
to
join
seak.
B
It's
also
something
to
wear
city
staff,
so
kim
could
probably
speak
to
this
better
than
I
could
look
through
those
nominations
and
provide
recommendations
to
city
council
and
to
the
mayor's
office
in
terms
of
who
to
move
forward
for
nomin
for
the
positions.
Q
Yeah,
I
was
just
going
to
say
that
all
that
is
true
and
that
you
know
we
did
change
over
the
bylaws
and
and
who
was
part
of
it.
I
mean
prior
to
2018,
we
had
you
know
four
or
five
representatives
from
like
the
school
board
park
board,
hennepin
county.
That
kind
of
thing
so,
and
we
also
had
a
more
you
know,
sort
of
wasn't
minneapolis-based
residence.
Q
B
Yeah
so
great
question,
and
I
would
say
to
like
I
know
that
it
can
sometimes
be
disconcerting
to
be
joining
a
group
when
you
feel
like
everybody
else
has
left
so
why
in
the
world,
would
you
want
to
join
a
place
where
everyone
else
has
been
leaving?
B
And
so
I
do
hope
that
we're
able
to
continue
having
a
a
sort
of
norm
here
on
ciac,
about
being
able
to
to
talk
about
things
that
feel
uncomfortable
or
being
willing
to
talk
about
things
that
we
want
to
be
doing.
You
know,
process
wise
differently
together,
so
in
our
bylaws.
B
Currently
appointed
members
can
be
replaced
if
they
miss
three
consecutive
monthly
meetings
without
contacting
the
ciac
member
chair
vice
chair
or
city
staff
person.
One
of
the
big
difficulties
we
ran
into
like
three-ish
years
ago
was
there
were
a
lot
of
people
who
had
positions
on
sea
ac,
but
weren't
attending
meetings
and
weren't
contacting
the
city
staff
or
the
chair,
or
vice
chair,
and
so
quorums
were
missing,
and
so
it
made
it
really
difficult
to
pass.
Anything
per.
B
Our
bylaws
were
required
to
meet
at
least
quarterly,
and
it
is
something
where
we
are.
We
have
been
meeting
for
once
a
month
and
I
don't
know
exactly
like
how
many
years
that's
been
going
on
for,
but
it's
been
happening
since
I
joined
ciac
and
on
occasion
we
can
call
for
a
special
meeting
per
the
fact
that
we're
all
meeting
virtually
now
our
meetings
are
open
to
the
public
and
are
now
being
recorded
for
the
city's
youtube
channel.
B
So
if
you
ever
hear
me
use
that
that
means
advisory
boards
and
commissions,
and
so
these
bylaws
might
change
at
some
point
during
our
term
this
two-year
term,
but
for
now
these
are
the
bylaws
that
we
are
that
we
need
to
follow.
B
So
speaking
of
other
advisory
boards
and
commissions,
the
city
has
about
50
of
them.
So
kim
talked
about
some
of
the
other
abcs.
That's
that
the
community
environmental
advisory
commission,
you
know,
interacts
with
most
frequently
through
the
sustainability
division.
So
the
northern
and
south
side
green
zones,
the
energy
vision,
advisory
committee,
clean
energy
partnership
and
then
the
food
council
used
to
be
housed
within
the
sustainability
division.
But
it's
now
in
the
health
department,
but
they
are
another
advisory
board
and
commission
that
we
have
interacted
with.
B
So
what
does
seac
do
we
provide
advice
to
city
staff
and
officials
on
the
environmental
effects
of
city
policies,
programs
and
projects,
but
when
it
comes
to
state
legislation,
state
agencies
and
utility
companies,
we
can
provide
recommendations
on
things
outside
of
the
control
of
the
city
of
minneapolis.
But
the
advice
needs
to
be
directed
to
the
city
of
minneapolis
staff
and
many
city
of
minneapolis
elected
officials.
B
We
can't
write
directly
as
a
body
to
state
officials
or
those
outside
the
city
of
minneapolis
structure.
Sometimes
they'll
hear
it
being
called
the
enterprise
so,
but
that
does
not
mean
that
you
can't
send
something
as
an
individual.
You
just
can't
state
that,
like
on
behalf
of
ciac,
I
am
writing
to
you
about
x,
y
and
z,
and
if
you
have
any
particular
questions
about
that,
if
you're
thinking
about
writing
an
op-ed
or
anything
like
that,
I'm
always
happy
to
help
with
navigating
those
sorts
of
guidelines.
P
I
have
a
quick
question.
This
is
leslie,
yes,
and
you
said
that
so
we
advise
the
city
and
and
on
certain
things
now,
not
just
myself,
but
I
heard
other
members
say
what
issues
they
wanted
to
work
on
and
they
spoke
of
hurt
and
that's
a
county
issue.
So
I'm
I
know
I
get
the
the
the
breakdown
of
offices
and
who
controls
what
and
the
county
got
the
garbage
and
metro
got.
You
know.
Metro
council
has
this
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff
now,
because
certain
things
in
the
county
affects
the
city
can't.
B
That's
a
great
question:
typically,
what
we
would
do
is
we
would
send
advice
to
the
city
of
minneapolis
staff
or
elected
officials
about
what
we
would
want
them
to
be
doing
or
managing
with
the
county,
but
I
wouldn't
be
surprised
if
there
has
potentially
been
some
communication
between
ciac
and
the
county
before,
but
I'm
not
100
positive
on
that
kim.
Do
you
have
any
anything
to.
Q
Well
previously,
we
did
have
tony,
you
know
from
the
hennepin
county
that
was
like
the
seat
that
he
had
held.
But
you
know,
one
of
the
things
that
we
can
look
at
with
with
herc
is:
what's
the
city
involvement
too.
So,
for
example,
you
know
we
do
every
you
know
again
it's
kind
of
controlled
by
the
county,
but
you
know
we're
required
to
to
have
our
garbage
go
there
and
that
you
know
everyone's
paying
into
that.
Q
So
looking
at
ways
that
we
can
do
it,
we
also
can
make
requests
to
the
city
to
to
look
at
herc
and
to
make
determinations
about
it,
and
certainly
the
whole
idea
of
getting
educated
understanding
what
the
impacts
are
and
being
able
to
speak
to
it
from
that
kind
of
standpoint
as
well
too.
So
it's
sort
of
gently
in
the
old
days.
You
know
you
would
be
able
to
say.
Q
Well,
I
told
you
know
town
hall
forum
or
something
on
this
situation
or
or
things
like
that,
but
we
can
certainly
look
at
how
you
bring
attention
to
the
impacts
of
a
project
like
that,
so
those
are
all
opportunities
or
actions
or
roads.
That
could
be
taken.
P
So
I
got
a
question
based
on
that,
so
when
you
did
this
presentation
and
you
went
it-
I
mean
they
did
their
presentation-
you
physically
went
in
there.
You
listened
to
everything.
Did
you
see
data
from
the
pollution
control
with
their
monitors
or
any
other
complaints
and
violations?
When
you
went
in
there
from
the
information
they
gave,
you
did
you
see
the
breakdowns
of
one
of
the
machines
that
they
had
wasn't
working
and
how
they
they
cut
down
on
that
and
sent
their
garbage
out
to
plymouth
somewhere?
P
B
N
Since
I
was
since
I
was
part
of
both
meetings,
I'll
say,
of
course,
the
county
presented
the
county's
perspective
and
that's
why
we
also
did
the
meeting
with
representative
ilhan
omar's
office,
because
their
perspective
was
different
and
hearing.
The
information
provided
by
both
groups
helped
us
think
about
what
some
of
those
interpretation
issues
are
or
some
of
the
incomplete
data
issues
are,
and
it
sounds
like.
You
also
have
some
experience
with
some
direct
issues
too.
B
P
It
does
I
I
did
a
while.
I
was
attending
the
university
of
minnesota.
I
did
a
project
on
her
and
I'm
I
have
a
video
but
I'm
working
because
I'm
a
member
of
ejcc2,
I'm
working
with
somebody
there
to
re-edit
it
and
give
and
put
more
current
data
data
into
that
video
that
I
did
and
I
hoping
maybe
it
can
be
used
as
an
educational
format
on
this,
and
I
just
still
getting
my
bearings
out
of
being
out
of
school
and
it
feels
good.
P
So
I
gotta
use
my
passport
so
anyway.
That
was
just
a
question
because
it
was
a
separation
of
county
and
city
and
a
lot
of
the
things
the
county
does
does
affect
us,
not
just
on
the
north
side,
but
the
south
side
as
well,
and
so
I
was
just
wondering
how
that
interacts
with
with
what
we
do,
and
that
was
very
clear
and-
and
I
can
understand
it,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
for
explaining
it
to
me.
B
Of
course
I
mean
that's
what
we
are
here
as
a
group
to
do,
and
so
I
would
say
too,
especially
if
there
are
particular
topics
and
issues
that
we
wrestle
with
as
a
body.
We
should
think
creatively
about
the
ways
that
we
can
fit
within
our
enabling
resolution,
but
put
apply
pressure
in
the
ways
that
we
want
to.
B
Okay,
so
as
a
just
a
quick
look
back,
some
of
the
topics
that
ciac
has
targeted
in
the
past
include
this
image
over.
Here
is
of
crum
rubber,
the
city
of
minneapolis,
all
right
ciac
worked
with
the
park
board
and
public
schools
to
talk
about
crumb,
rubber
and
figure
out.
You
know
the
health
impacts
that
it
has
on
kids
and
about
if
we
should
change
the
policies
around.
What
sort
of
sort
of
cushioning
element
is
put
on
the
base
of
playgrounds
recommendation
was
to
not
use
crumb
rubber.
B
So
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
some
of
that
did
change
a
couple
of
years
ago.
I
have
this
bag
stuck
in
the
fence.
One
of
the
things
that
we
have
done,
especially
in
this
last
year,
was
the
part
of
the
bringing
your
back,
bring
your
own
bag
ordinance
and
working
with
council
member
gordon
on
some
of
the
proposals
that
he
had
on
that
up
here
I
have
just
a
picture
that
I
took
off
the
internet
about
just
to
kind
of
showcase,
sustainable
building
design.
B
So
some
of
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
is
around
policies
regarding
sustainable
buildings,
both
for
the
city
and
thinking
about
what
we
can.
What
sort
of
pressure
we
can
apply
to
others
who
are
building
buildings
that
are
not
the
city
of
minneapolis
down
here
is
roof
depot
I
for
those
who
were
on
the
december
meeting.
B
I
know
that
you
heard
a
little
bit
more
about
this
and
I
don't
want
to
dive
into
too
much
detail
here
in
this
particular
moment,
but
this
is
an
ongoing
thing
that
it
sounds
like
we'll,
probably
be
continuing
to
do
some
work
on
and
then
electric
vehicles,
we've
ciec,
has
recommended
some
different
resolutions
and
policies
regarding
electric
vehicles
and
the
infrastructure
that
goes
in
to
support
them.
B
B
They
used
to
do
more,
like
informational
type
presentations
and
less
so
on
the
advice
front
in
some
respects
the
level
of
formality
we
want
to
use
like
I'm
supposed
to
use
robert's
rules
of
order
or
whatever,
but
I'm
not
that
formal
and
I'm
fine
with
also
just
being
called
aaron.
The
next.
The
new
chair
and
vice
chair
might
have
different
different
opinions
on
that
sort
of
like
level
of
formality,
but
that's
kind
of
how
I've
been
rolling
and
yeah.
B
In
the
past,
year-ish
we've
actually
set
up
a
new
google
form
for
presenters
to
fill
out
prior
to
presenting
to
seac,
to
better
understand
what
it
is
that
they're
hoping
to
get
from
presenting
to
ciac
to
better
weed
out
some
of
those
people
who
wanted
to
present
just
to
give
us
information
that
we
then
felt
like
we
had
no
use
to
actually
do
something
with
it.
So,
but
that's
another
thing
that
you
know
is
not
required
and
it's
just
a
sort
of
norm
that
we
ended
up
creating.
B
So
all
of
these
sorts
of
different
things
can
change,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
I
will
get
into
more
of
a
discussion
on
these
things
in
a
minute
in
terms
of
what
happens
outside
of
meetings.
B
We
have
a
google
drive
that
I
share
all
the
documents
in
so
that
we
can
work
on
writing
letters
and
stuff
in
there
and
just
making
general
plans
through
that,
and
so
after
this
meeting
today,
I
am
going
to
be
sending
an
a
link
or
an
invitation
to
everybody
using
the
email
addresses
that
kim
has
been
using
to
invite
you
all
to
the
meetings
today.
B
We
used
to
have
some
subcommittee
meetings
outside
of
meetings,
but
that's
really
something
that
hasn't
been
happening
since
moving
on
to
this
virtual
platform
and
based
on
some
of
the
interpretations
of
open
meeting
laws
from
by
the
city
clerk.
So
some
of
this
stuff
is
still
really
up
in
the
air.
So
the
main
thing
about
you
know
what
happens
outside
of
meetings
is
often
times
like
email
communications,
occasionally,
phone
calls,
depending
on
who's
working
on
what
and
working
in
the
google
drive
yeah.
So
I'm
actually
going
to
stop
there
for
a
second.
B
P
Well,
I
looked
at
the
agenda
and
the
comparison
to
the
other
agendas
that
I've
been
reading
and
meetings
I've
been
attending.
I
think
the
way
that
everything
is
running
so
far-
and
this
is
my
second
meeting-
I
I'm
I'm
fine
with
the
way
everything
is
right
now
I
don't
know
I
can
only
speak
for
me.
It's
simple
easy.
It's
direct
right
to
the
point
and
links
are
connected
and
I
I
feel
that
everything
just
falls
in
place
order
for
you
know
order
in
I
just
I
I'm
okay
with
it.
I
don't
see
any
changes.
B
B
Leslie
I
see
that
someone
has
their
hand
raised,
but
I
can't
tell
who
it
is
right
now
so.
H
F
H
So
I
think
a
blend
of
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense
and
you
know
I
I
both
would
like
to
have
some
independence
on
what
we
talked
to,
but
also
you
know,
I'd
really
like
to
help
kim
and
his
team
out
on
on
his
hot
issues,
yeah
and
then
last
you
know
when
you
mentioned,
you
know
what
our
preferences
were
about,
pre-read
and
so
on,
and
and
personally
I
I
really
like
having
some
pre-read
in
advance
of
a
of
a
meeting,
so
I
can
do
a
little
bit
of
homework
get
familiar
with
the
topic.
B
Q
The
other
person
who
is
his
test
had
her
hand
up
as
well
too
so
yeah.
M
Yeah,
thanks
kim,
I
was
a
second,
I
think,
pretty
much
the
things
that
mark
said.
As
far
as
my
very
limited
experience
so
far,
I
was
wondering
erin
or
if
anyone
else
would
want
to
elaborate
a
little
bit
on
having
presenters.
How
does
that
typically,
work
do
like
different
organizations,
sort
of
contact
you
or
contact
kim
and
say
we'd
like
to
present,
and
how
does
that
happen?
I
do
appreciate
the
idea
of
not
having
presentations
just
for
the
sake
of
presenting
information
to
us.
B
Primarily
set
by
these
city
staff,
and
it
was
typically
based
on
different
presentations
that
or
people
who
had
come
to
the
former
head
of
sustainability
with
you
know,
saying
that
they
wanted
to
present
to
ziak.
B
B
Now,
though,
over
the
last
year
or
two
we've
been
working
on
trying
to
like
weed
out
some
of
those
different
presentations
that
might
just
be.
You
know
wanting
to
inform
us
about
tce
pollution,
even
though
it's
not
something
that's
through
the
air,
even
though,
if
that's
not
something,
that's
like
a
current
concern
here
in
minneapolis
for
any
of
our
neighborhoods.
They
just
wanted
to.
B
Let
us
know
about
it,
and
that
was
the
sort
of
impetus
for
creating
the
google
form
to
have
presenters
fill
out
to
ask
like
what
it
is
that
they're
looking
to
have
ciac
do
about
their
presentation
and
I
feel
like-
and
I
am
biased
since
this
was
my
idea,
but
I
think
that
it's
really
helped
with
making
sure
that
the
presentations
that
we
do
get
are
things
that
we
can
actually
take
action
on
as
a
body
as
opposed
to
just
learning
about
some.
B
D
B
So
typically,
it
is
something
in
writing
whether
that's
a
letter
or
an
ordinary
suggestion
or
an
ordinance
change
a
resolution.
All
those
sorts
of
things
are
things
that
we
can
work
on
together,
but
typically
it
is
something
that's
done
in
writing
so
that
we
are
able
to
come
to
agreement
together
on
what
the
language
is.
D
Would
we
ever
have
minority
reports
where
some
people
would
want
something
and
other
people
wouldn't-
and
you
know
so-
there'd
be
maybe
a
majority
of
those
voting
that
would,
but
the
minority
feel
strongly
about
it,
that
they
have
some
voice
or
have
you
know
some
reason
to
feel
differently.
B
Yeah,
so
that's
actually
a
really
good
question,
so
back
in
2019,
when
we
had
been
providing
advice
on
the
bring
your
own
bag
ordinance,
we
said
that
in
general,
as
a
body,
we
were
supportive
of
it,
but
we
had
particular
qualms
around
a
few
particular
issues
and
there
were
a
few
people
who
felt
strongly
enough
about
those
qualms
that
they
did
not
want
to
say
to
move
forward
with
the
bring
your
own
bag
ordinance.
And
so
I
ended
up
saying
that
the
vote
was
not
unanimous
and
that
and
then
in
a
footnote.
B
I
did
put
in
like
what
the
concerns
were
of
the
the
people
who
did
not
vote.
Yes,.
B
Yeah,
but
I
will
say
that
it's
kind
of
there's
no
set
rule
on
it,
no
something
that
we
would
need
to
decide
as
a
body
or
have
whoever's
leaving
us
make
that
sort
of
decision,
yeah
and
then
tess.
I
know
that
I
had
moved
on
for
a
second
there,
but
did
I
help
with
answering
your
original
question
about
how
the
agendas
are
set
and
how
we
can
hear
about
presenters.
M
F
B
So
the
final
decision
really
does
rest
with
the
chair,
in
partnership
with
the
sustainability
division
staff
member
for
this
committee.
B
What
I've
been
starting
to
do
and
it's
not
something
that
I've
really
made
a
habit
yet
and
I'm
hoping
that
it's
something
that
we
can
make
a
habit
is
towards
the
end
of
one
month's
meeting
asking
folks.
You
know
who
they
might
want
to
hear
from.
B
If
we
have
received
some
different
presentation
requests,
because
I
do
appreciate
you
know
letting
other
people
say
what
they
want
to
hear
about,
because
I'm
my
own
person
and
so
are
all
of
you
and
I
don't
want
to
be
the
only
one
dictating
who
it
is
we
hear
from
or
what
it
is
about.
B
So
typically,
I
have
been
taking
like
the
last
little
bit
of
time
in
meetings
to
just
ask
about
some
of
the
different
agenda
topics
we
have
coming
up
and
making
sure
that
you
know
what
we
might
do.
The
next
month
sounds
reasonable
to
folks.
P
I
have
one
it
kind,
I
don't
know
how
to
word
it,
but
what
is
the
success
rate
of
the
issues
that
this
committee
had
had
gone
after
or
tried
to
sway
or
change
some
policies
within
the
city
itself?
If
that's
what
happened?
I
don't
know
I
was
just
saying:
what
is
the
success.
B
Q
I
don't
have
any
specifics
that
has
not
been
tracked
and
since
I've
been
leading
the
division,
but
it's
interesting
to
look
at
I
mean
I
can
I
can
anecdotally.
We
can
refer
to
some
things
as
as
aaron
could
as
well,
but
I
think
it
was
a
good
move
forward
with
you
know
our
attempt
to
reduce
the
amount
of
plastic
bags
that
were
being
given
away.
You
know
for
free,
and
we
imposed
the
the
city
wanted
to.
Q
You
know:
get
rid
of
plastic
bags
as
they've
done
in
in
many
developed
countries
and
and
and
many
all
over
the
world,
but
anyway
we
basically
came
up
with
the
concept
of
charging
a
nickel.
I
thought
that
was
a
really
good
proposal
moving
forward
and
then
there's
also
been
a
you
know
like
just
recently
the
green
fleet
policy.
I've
had
really
good
communications
with
our
public
works.
Folks
on
that
and
and
the
language
and
how
it's
being
adopted
based
on
recommendations
from
c,
has
been
very
well
received.
Q
So
that's
you
know
something
that
hadn't
been
updated
for
10
years
and
affects
2
000
cars
that
the
city
owns
and
drives
around.
So
I
mean
there's
some
good
impacts,
especially
when
we're
able
to
work,
I
think
within
you
know,
either
within
the
city
or
intergovernmental
things.
Q
We
do
have
the
ability
to
do
some
really
good
influence
there,
starting
or
creating
a
whole
policy
on
something
it
takes
time,
but
cx
been
around
for
a
long
time,
it's
the
longest
and
serving
advisory
commission
to
the
city
of
minneapolis
of
of
any
you
know,
committee.
So
it's
been
really
active
in
a
lot
of
ways
and
it
ebbs
and
flows
over
time.
B
I
think
just
as
a
counterpoint
and
then
I
will
go
over
to
toya.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
were
experiencing
as
a
body
last
year
was
we've
been
writing
to
the
city
council
on
roof
depot
and
wanting
to
get
answers
back
from
them
about
specific
things
that
were
happening
in
the
process
and
we
were
hearing
nothing
and
so
that
took
a
lot
of
pressure
to
be
able
to
get
any
sort
of
feedback
from
those
council
members.
B
But
we
did,
towards
the
end
of
the
year,
end
up
having
a
presentation,
well
a
conversation
with
council
member
jenkins
and
council
member
bender.
So
there
are
certainly
times
where
we
end
up
hearing
nothing
and
that
can
be
really
frustrating
and
so
it's
kind
of
a
mixed
bag.
Depending
on
what
the
topic
is
and
how
contentious
it
is.
B
O
Yeah,
I
think
that
question
had
me
thinking
just
about
recording
our.
O
I
guess,
like
successes
and
learning
opportunities
would
be
really
great,
especially
for
us
here
currently
and
also
for
future
members,
since
we
really
many
of
us
have
a
very
limited
time
right
to
be
on
c
and
be
able
to
contribute
our
our
thoughts
and
I'm
also
thinking
it
would
be
good
to
well
not
only
kind
of
archive
the
work
we've
done
and
find
some
way
to
you
know
keep
this
in
going
into
the
future
like
by
having
a
librarian
role
or
something,
but
also
maybe
goal
setting
like
what
do
we
like
what
is
like
a
success.
O
Look
like
like,
and
also
some
things
are
obviously
going
to
take
more
than
a
couple
years
to
be
accomplished
and
to
have
us
having
to
restart.
You
know
every
year,
basically
can
really
slow
down
movement
so.
B
Yeah,
those
are
definitely
all
things
that
I
especially
as
we
start
picking
particular
issue
areas.
I
think
it
would
also
be
well
helpful
to
talk
about
what
we
want
really
want
to
see
as
a
body
like
the
sort
of
change
that
we
want
to
be
making
and
then
thinking
more
specifically
about
the
goals
as
they
relate
to
particular
topic
areas.
B
I'd
be
really
interested
kim
in
finding
out
more
about
how
I
can
do
breakouts
and
teams,
because
I
feel
like
that
would
help
and
something
that
was
a
lot
easier
when
we
were
able
to
split
up
in
person
to
talk
about
some
of
these
different
topics
as
opposed
to
having
25
people
trying
to
brainstorm
at
one
time.
Q
Yeah-
and
I
you
know-
I-
I
also
wanted
to
just
bring
up
that.
We
are
very
interested
in
starting
a
process
of
updating
our
climate
action
plan
in
the
third
quarter
of
this
year
and,
of
course
we
would.
We
are
going
to
be
looking
at
all
the
different
topics
that
are
part
of
that
and,
of
course,
want
seak
to
be
intricately
involved
in
looking
at
that.
So
again,
the
work
teams
and
and
understanding
how
we
can
balance
all
that.
But
we
are
we're.
Q
I
think
this
is
why
it's
like
there's
a
lot
of
different
topics
to
go
over,
but
next
month.
I
think
two
will
start
talking
about
some
of
the
things
that
we
see
as
part
of
sustainability
division
to
be
working
on
as
we
go
forward
and
what
we're
engaged
in
right
now
and
then
how
we
can
integrate
and
support,
not
only
the
work
that
we're
doing
at
sustainability,
but
across
the
city
and
in
other
areas.
Q
But
of
course,
we
have
to
be
realistic
and
understand
capacity
and
time,
and
you
know
how
things
move,
but
we
want
to
have
as
much
engagement
and
much
of
your
expertise
is
absolutely
possible
to
help
guide
our
our
actions
on
climate
and
now
that
we're
coming
out
of
covid
and
we're
seeing
what
the
health
impacts
have
been
of
pollution
and
for
air
quality
and
all
kinds
of
stressors
related
to
heat
and
cold
and
as
a
result
of
inefficiencies.
Q
All
of
this
starts
to
make
a
very
connected
way
to
look
at
the
health
of
our
community
and
the
health
of
our
environment
being
intricately
connected
so
yeah.
I
I
think
we'll
be
having
an
opportunity
to
talk
more
about
those
kind
of
things
starting
our
next
meeting
and
going
forward.
B
And
just
with
the
changeover
that
we've
had
in
terms
of
membership
and
stuff
and
because
liz
stout
who
works
with
public
works,
doesn't
often
come
to
seac
asking
to
be
able
to
present
anything
related
to
water.
It
is
something
where
we
just
decided
to
move
forward
with
having
that
presentation
in
february.
So
thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
make
that
sort
of
executive
decision.
B
I
am
hoping
that
you're
able
to
see
the
screen
that
I'm
sharing
right
now,
based
on
the
survey
that
I
sent
out.
This
is
just
a
sampling
of
some
of
the
different
topics
that
were
suggested,
and
I
will
say
that
this
is
more
than
we
would
obviously
be
able
to
kind
of
handle
in
in
a
year.
B
It's
especially
been
more
difficult
in
this
sort
of
virtual
format
to
be
working
on
many
different
things
at
one
time,
and
so
I
think
that
that's
still
a
process
that
we're
working
on
figuring
out
how
we
can
make
ourselves
more
like
make
the
body
more
efficient
and
and
how
we
work
through
these
sorts
of
things
together.
B
B
So
it's
on
storm
water,
it's
an
ordinance
around
storm
water
and
around
storm
water
fees
structure.
Something
kim
do
you
wanna
elaborate.
Q
Yeah,
there's
it's
it's
around
storm
water
and
the
fees
and
then
also
there's
a
storm
water
fee
credit
based
on
how
much
green
space
and
water
infiltration
on
a
particular
site.
You
get.
You
know
up
to
100
percent
cred.
Well,
it's
not
going
to
be
100.
It's
going
to
be.
It
was
100.
It's
going
to
be
now
75
based
on
water
infiltration.
Q
So
it's
going
to
be
an
explanation
of
of
how
the
city
is
going
to
bring
more
storm
water
into
you,
know,
being
cleaned
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff
too.
The
type
of
green
space.
Q
B
So
between
now
and
the
february
meeting,
or
even
at
the
february
meeting
I'll,
certainly
be
thinking
about
what
sort
of
process
we
might
use
to
help
with
narrowing
in
on
particular
topics
and
figuring
out
where
we
might
want
to
start
focusing
our
efforts
on
first-
and
I
would
say,
particularly
in
this
time
of
large
transition,
if
you
have
particular
questions
about
things,
cx
cac
has
done
in
the
past
or
what
sort
of
letters
we've
written
about
particular
topics.
B
F
Oriented
like
how
often
are
you
like,
reaching
out
to
the
city,
council
and
stuff.
M
Tests
yeah
on
that
topic,
I
would
just
like
to
bring
up
that.
The
upper
harbor
terminal
is
something
that
folks
talked
about
at
the
last
meeting.
M
B
I
would
say
that,
just
in
terms
of
the
fact
that
we
haven't
gotten
all
the
oaths
of
office
in
and
stuff,
we
unfortunately
aren't
able
to
vote
on
things
as
a
body.
Yet
so
I
don't
think
that,
as
a
body
will
be
able
to
send
anything
to
council
in
time
for
that
meeting
unless
it
gets
postponed,
which
I
know
it's
already
been
postponed.
B
But
if
I
get
postponed
even
more,
who
knows
so
in
the
meantime,
if
we
aren't
able
to
do
something
as
a
body
feel
free
to
obviously
as
an
individual,
send
out
some
comments.
But
if
you're
interested
in
talking
about
this
particular
issue
as
a
a
small
group
or
something
and
thinking
about
how
you'd
want
to
phrase
your
comments
to
counsel
as
an
individual,
that's
definitely
something
that
we
can
work
on
together
too.
H
Say
aaron:
this
is
mark
dennett.
So
last
year
we
had
a
couple
of
presentations
at
seaac
from
community
action
groups.
F
H
B
Yeah,
well,
I
don't
have
a
particular
answer
to
any
of
that.
I
think
what
it
did
spark
for
me
is
just
a
reminder,
because
it's
in
my
brain
doesn't
mean
that
it's
in
everybody
else's
brain
reminder
that
if
there
are
particular
topics
that
you're
really
interested
in
getting
a
presentation
on,
if
you
hear
from
community
groups
that
you're
connected
with
or
something
you
hear
about
in
your
particular
award,
please
feel
free
to
bring
it
forward
and
suggest
it
as
an
agenda
item.
B
Typically
in
advance
of
the
meeting
is
preferred,
but
it
is
something
that
is
the
main
way
that
we've
been
hearing
from.
Some
of
these
different
community
voices
is
from
seak
member
recommendations
and
from
just
connections
that,
as
members
we've
been
making
into
some
of
the
different
wards
and
neighborhood
groups,.
B
Hearing
nothing,
I'm
gonna
say
that
we
can
move
on
to
the
next
little
piece
of
the
agenda
doesn't
mean
that
you
can't
come
up
with
questions
later
or
in
other
meetings,
and
I
would
say
too,
especially
if
there's
something
that's
that
doesn't
feel
like
it's
working
well
for
you
in
a
meeting.
B
That's
definitely
something
that
is
helpful
feedback
for
kim
and
for
the
leadership
of
the
commission,
just
to
make
sure
that,
if
we're
able
to
make
this
time
productive
for
people
who
are
volunteering,
their
time.
E
E
B
B
So
the
next
part
on
our
agenda
right
now
is
about
nominations
for
chair
and
vice
chair
for
2021,
and
I
just
want
to
read
through
like
what
the
chair
and
vice
chair
roles
are,
and
also
note
too,
that
again
these
are
norms
and
they
are
not
written
down
in
in
any
sort
of
formal
way.
So
if
there
are
particular
things
that
like,
if
you
run
for
chair
and
then
become
chair-
and
there
are
changes
that
you
want
to
make
to
the
way
different
things
work,
that
is
your
prerogative.
B
Okay,
so
briefly
again,
the
chair
helps
with
setting
the
monthly
agenda.
Liaisons
with
city
staff
in
preparation
for
meetings
sends
letters
on
behalf
of
the
commission
to
city
staff,
council
and
or
the
mayor
depending
on
the
topic,
and
then
the
chair
also
facilitates
the
meetings
and
tries
to
keep
the
pace
moving
and
can
call
special
meetings
as
needed
as
a
body
if
we
have
more
than
a
quorum.
That
calls
for
a
special
meeting.
B
B
If
the
vice
chair
wants
to
in
the
past,
some
of
the
vice
chairs
haven't
necessarily
wanted
to
participate
in
the
agenda
setting
meetings,
but
I
would
say
that
that
is
definitely
something
that
has
happened
in
the
past,
so
a
vice
chair
could
participate
in
some
of
those
agenda-setting
kind
of
conversations
and
again,
both
positions
are
malleable.
B
So
with
that,
I'm
curious
if
there
are
any
questions
about
those
particular
positions
and
then
after
answering
any
questions,
we
will
open
the
floor
for
nominations
for
chair
and
vice
chair.
So
any
questions.
F
G
B
I
personally
would
like
to
run
for
chair
again,
but
I
also
recognize
that
I
have
been
in
this
position
for
three
years
so
opening
it
up
for
other
nominations,
for
the
chair
and
vice
chair.
F
B
Hearing
none,
what
I
will
do
is
just
make
sure
to
follow
up
with
everyone
via
via
email
and
also
making
sure
to
flag
those
folks
who
are
not
in
the
meeting
today,
just
to
see,
if
there's
anybody
else
who
wants
to
run
for
those
two
positions.
Otherwise
we'll
have
a
very
short
vote
and
we'll
we
haven't
figured
out
how
to
do
the
vote
via
teams
yet
because
we've
never
done
elections
virtually.
Q
Yeah,
we'll
we'll
work
on
figuring
that
out,
but
we
can
always
make
a
similar
vote.
You
know
by
especially
if
it's
an
easy
slate
forward,
but
also
just
want
to
know
that
you
know
if
you're
interested
in
running
for
the
chair,
you
can
certainly
talk
to
me
about
it,
be
very
happy
to
spend
some
time
talking
it
over
getting
providing
an
information
background.
You
need
as
well
too
and
we'll
be
what
we'd
like
to
be
able
to
do.
Q
Is
you
know,
obviously
a
week
before
our
next
meeting,
which
we
haven't
officially
said?
But
let's
say
it's
the
same
third
wednesday,
the
february
17th
we'd
like
to
have
if
you
are
interested
in
a
nomination
or
your
your
hat
in
the
ring,
so
to
speak
by
the
week
before
that
meeting.
Q
B
B
O
Hi,
maybe
this
is
already
written
somewhere,
and
this
might
be
like
a
like
a
redundant
question.
But
is
there
like
a
like
a
duties,
description
for
the
chair
role
somewhere
or
like
estimated
time,
commitment.
B
Yeah,
so
the
only
thing
that
we
have
in
writing
is
that
the
chair
facilitates
the
meetings
and
sets
the
agenda
with
the
staff
contact
for
ciac
they're,
like
I
said,
it's
kind
of
been
more
hands-on
or
hands-off,
depending
on
who
the
chair
has
been.
I
will
say
that,
for
myself,
I've
been
more
hands-on
and
so
outside
of
meetings
on
a
monthly
basis.
B
It
could
be.
You
know,
five
to
ten
hours,
depending
on
like
how
many
topics
there
are
that
we've
been
talking
about
as
yeah.
But
again
I've
been
very
hands-on
in
terms
of
helping
with
writing
things,
and
you
know
then
sending
sending
information
on
to
council
members
and
coordinating
different
things.
B
P
P
Q
Sure
yeah,
basically
you
know
we
thank
you
so
much
to
all
of
you
who
have
taken
the
ethics
training
and
also
submitted
your
notarized
oaths.
We
do
need
to
have
those
in.
Ideally,
we
have
everything
in
in
advance
of
our
next
meeting,
so
we're
able
to
take
the
votes
on
the
vice
chair
and
and
and
chair
and
agenda
setting,
etc.
So.
Q
Exactly
yes,
so
there'll
be
recommendations
and
typically
that's
that's
voted
on
and
passed
as
part
of
you
know,
sort
of
official
action
of
the
of
the
organization.
Q
Q
So
I
did
include
a
link.
That's
there
as
well.
The
upper
harbor
terminal
coordinated
plan
was
basically
as
of
last
friday,
sort
of
closed.
But
if
folks
have
other
comments
on
it
or
wanted
to
have
questions
about,
it
feel
free
to
contact
me,
I
can
pass
them
along
to
staff,
but
we
wouldn't,
as
unless,
there's
more
opportunity
to
comment
if
it
is
going
to
city
council
fairly
quickly,
there's
and
so
anyway,
it's
all
a
matter
of
timing
and
which
stuff
we
can
work
on
on
that.
Q
So
that
continues
to
be
it
and
then
actually
an
interesting
thing.
That's
going
on
for
the
environmental
initiative
is
next
week,
they're
having
an
environmental
initiative
session.
P
I
Q
A
legislative
preview
on
the
environmental
folks
so
to
have
both
the
chair
of
the
state
senate
committee
and
the
environment,
who
is
senator
senjem
of
rochester
and
then
also
representative
long
of
minneapolis
chairs,
the
energy
and
environment
committee
in
the
house
and
they'll,
be
in
there
as
well,
and
then
there's
one
other
person.
Now,
I'm
forgetting
off
the
top.
My
head,
aaron,
that's
on
the
panel
anyway,.
B
Admit
that
I
don't
remember
who
all's
on
but
is
bringing
this
up
is
because
my
my
day,
job
is
with
environmental
initiative,
which
is
a
environmental
nonprofit
that
really
primarily
focuses
on
how
we
bring
people
together
to
talk
about
environmental
issues
and
how
we
can
bridge
across
differences
to
find
solutions
that,
hopefully
are
able
to
be
more
equitable
and
just
for
our
community.
Q
Q
And
one
of
the
big
things
that
the
city
is
pursuing
and
we're
actually
in
our
third
year
now
of
pursuing
it
is
our
better
building's
code
which
basically
is
going
to
put
in
place.
Hopefully
if
it
gets
passed
and
has
been
supported
by
the
department
of
labor
and
industry
and
commerce,
as
well
as
the
governor's
office
and-
and
we
have
both
senator
senju
and
representative
long
as
our
chief
authors,
so
we'll
see
if
we
can
get
it
done.
But
it's
been
tough.
Three
years
now
we
have
support
from
the
national
resources
defense
council.
Q
It's
part
of
the
bloomberg
american
cities,
climate
challenge,
to
help
us
on
that
and
work
with
us.
We
have
a
great
coalition
of
major
cities
representing
1.2
million
people
in
the
city
state
of
minnesota,
so
it's
been
really
great,
but
it
just
hasn't
been
able
to
move
in
the
senate.
So
we're
really
excited
about
that
as
a
top
priority
for
the
city,
which
would
basically
require
part
of
the
code
to
move
all
new
building
constructions
of
a
certain
size
to
net
zero
energy
by
2036.
B
So
I
can
make
sure
to
send
a
link
to
the
legislative
preview
to
kim
and
typically
what
happens
after
our
meetings
are
done,
usually
by
friday-ish.
You
know
some
grace
period
in
there,
depending
on
everything
else.
That's
happening
in
the
world
kim
will
send
out
an
email
with
any
announcements
and
updates
that
came
out
of
the
wednesday
meeting
so
by
friday,
he'll
probably
be
sending
out
an
email
and
we'll
make
sure
that
that
link
is
included
in.
F
B
Okay,
so
I
think
other
than
that,
what
we
have
at
this
point
is
that
our
next
meeting,
based
on
the
scheduling
poll
and
based
on
turnout,
we
are
going
to
be
continuing
to
keep
the
meeting
on
the
third
wednesdays
of
the
month
from
five
to
seven.
B
If
there
are
particular
individuals
who
have
a
consistent
conflict
with
that
I'll
be
working
on
following
up
with
them
and
also
coordinating
with
kim
to
see
how
we
could
make
sure
that
they
can
stay
involved
also,
if
there
are
ever
any
time
constraints
that
end
up
popping
up
for
you
this
year.
If
there
are
particular,
you
know
again
things
that
you
want
to
see
change
during
meetings,
any
of
that
sort
of
jazz
feel
free
to
reach
out.
B
I
it's
something
where
again,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
making
good
use
of
everyone's
fault
into
your
time.
So
I
think
with
that,
there's
not
really
much
else.
Unless
kim
you
have
anything.
B
You
so
with
that
we
can
adjourn
if
it's
okay
with
kim
and
bjorn,
I'm
okay,
with
staying
on
for
another
10
minutes
in
case
there
are
any
questions
that
people
might
have
for
me,
specifically,
especially
as
one
of
the
longer
term
seac
members,
so
otherwise
I
would
say:
go
off
enjoy
your
evening
if
you
haven't
eaten
dinner,
yet
hope
you
get
something
yummy
and
thank
you
all
and
I'll
get
better
over
time
of
learning.
Everybody's
voices
someday
I'll
be
able
to
get
better
at
learning
people's
faces.
E
P
Aaron
yeah,
are
you
still
there?
This
is
leslie.
I
got
a
question
so
as
far
as
this
the
park,
the
park
plan
are,
you
are,
have
you
guys
put
any
concerns
or
your
input
of
that
plan.
Yet.
B
A
B
Yeah,
so
I'm
fairly
certain
that
when
they
were
first
starting
on
putting
it
together
that
they
came
to
us
for
some
comments,
and
I
think
that
we
submitted
some
comments,
but
I
will
have
to
dig
back
and
see
if
I
can
find
that
information.
B
But
we
haven't
done
any
comments
on
it.
Since
it's
been
more
developed.
P
Okay-
because
I
just
have
my
I
I'm
sorry,
I'm
just
so
into
this
soil
and
storm
water
management-
is
that
it's
a
great
plan,
but
my
thing
with
the
park
board.
If
you
go
to
any
of
these
lakes
and
all
the
connections
and
streams
that
we
have
around
the
whole
complete
city,
they're
poorly
managed
the
people
that
work
there,
they
drive
those.
P
P
They
just
I
mean
they're,
not
even
taking
care
of
what
they
already
have
and
for
them
to
put
in
all
this
new
stuff,
I'm
very
confused
if
they're
not
taking
care
of
the
land
that
they're
already
on
how
how
are
they
going
to
add
more
stuff
to
the
mess
they
already
have?
B
B
If
we
have
any
letters
that
we
wrote
to
the
park
board
regarding
their
comprehensive
plan
and
then
I
can
make
sure
to
send
that
along
to
you
and
then
make
sure
that
that's
shared
with
everybody
as
we
start
making
that
more
of
a
topic
at
some
point
in
the
future
and.
P
And
another
thing
I
was
just
wondering
because
of
the
mass
expansion
that
we
have
going
across
the
whole
city
are,
we
are:
are
they
planning
on
hiring
any
more
inspectors,
because
you
can
just
drive
down
the
streets
and
just
see
stuff
just
happening
and
for
four
inspectors?
I
don't
know
how
they're
hitting
all
these
different
sites.
B
Yeah,
that's
something
I
have
no
idea
about,
and
so
I
will
follow
up
with
kim
on
that
and
see
like
what
sort
of
intersections
we
can
have
as
a
body
with
that
sort
of
inspection
component.
P
Okay,
well,
those
are
just
the
only
questions
I
have
right
now,
but
yeah,
I'm
that
geek,
I'm
sorry,
that's
the
questions
that
I
have
for
for
right
now
and
and
seeing.
L
P
B
Okay
and
then
this
is
much
more
of
like
a
me
erin
like
we're
just
trying
to
draw
connections
leslie.
I
think
that
some
of
my
co-workers
have
talked
to
you
recently,
like
malia
houseconnect
and
mike
harley,
potentially
or
at
least
a
few
months
ago.
B
P
Yeah,
probably
because
I
sit
on
a
lot
of
meetings-
and
I
just
you
know
since
colbert,
I'm
more
at
home,
and
so
I'm
like
sitting
and
just
seeing
how
our
city
is,
is
changed
and
how
everything
is
really
connected.
When
you
get
older
because,
like
me,
being
a
kid
and
I
see
the
pile
of
dirt,
I'm
gonna
climb
up
in
that
pile
of
dirt
and
get
yelled
at
when
I
get
home,
but
I'ma
climb
up
in
that
dirt.
P
You
know,
and
so
that
was
my
life,
but
now
I
see
what's
going
on
with
it
and
things
and
how
it's
really
affecting
everybody
from
the
north
side
to
the
south
side
and
southeast
and
in
all
these
little
pockets
and
the
health
of
our
community
and
not
really
understanding
what
has
impacted
us
from
the
mosquito
spring
when
you
had
to
be
in
the
house
at
five
to
everything
else,
and
I
just
it's
just
amazing
when
you
get
older
to
see
exactly
how
everything
is
interconnected
and
how
it
affects
us
as
humans,
when
you
don't
think
that
when
you're
younger
yeah
but.
P
Yeah,
but
I
don't
the
names
that
you
say
to
me:
I
do
know
trice
and
and
and
sam
grant
because
of
the
committee
I'm
on,
but
those
other
names.
I
don't
know
earlier.
Okay,
I
don't
know,
but
I
know
when
they
were
talking
about
the
upper
harbor
lights,
the
planning
committee,
who
who
orchestrated
it
and
told
me
to
look
back
at
their
soils-
and
I
said:
there's
no
soil
management
here
only
storm
water
and
you
need
to
implement
that
in
there
and
then
he
came
back.
P
He
kept
coming
back
at
me
about
the
soil
and
I
thought
it
was
kind
of
funny,
because,
if
you're
going
to
say
the
storm
water
management,
then
you
need
to
have
the
soil
because
you're
moving
the
soil
to
get
the
project
done,
and
I
just
think
that.
Well,
I'm
sorry,
I
got
trained
after
you
and
they
ride
it
like
a
rodeo
there.
So
yeah,
that's
my
education
there
and
at
augsburg.
So
I
graduated
from
two
schools
at
this
in
the
state
of
minnesota.
P
So
I
just
wanted
to
yeah.
So
I
just
I
thank
god
and
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
be
on
this
committee
and
I
don't
know
these
other
people,
but
just
listening
to
the
two
meetings
I
did
attend,
I
would
keep
you
in
the
position
that
you're
in
because
you're
more
aware,
and
I
would
vote
for
you-
I'm
just
telling
you
right
off
the
bat.
I
don't
know
these
other
people
or
their
background,
but
for
what
you're
doing
and
what
I've
heard
and
how
it's
being
conducted
and
and
ran.
I'm
very
happy
with
you.
P
I
don't.
I
don't
know
these
other
people,
I
can't
say
anything
about
them,
but
I
can't
vote
for
something
I
or
somebody
I
don't
know
nothing
about,
and
I
can't
do
research
on
them
because
you
know
google
lies
and
who
knows
you
know
I
can
make
myself
a
an
ambassador
and
you'll
be
like
oh
she's,
an
ambassador.
B
P
Questions,
no,
that's
it!
I'm
gonna!
Let
you
go
and
thank
you
for
the
time
that
you
gave
me
to
give
a
clear
understanding
in
my
head
and
yeah.
That's
my
my.
I
say
what
I
say
and
I
stand
on
what
I
say
and
I
just
a
firm
believer
that
everybody
has
the
right
to
have
clean
air,
water
and
soil.
C
I
had
a
policy
question
for
kim
and
bjorn.
If
curious,
I
know
that
sustainable
building
policy
was
gonna
be
coming
out.
I
think
early
january
was
sort
of
the
timeline.
I'm
curious
if
there's
been
any
update
on
that.
Q
Yeah
we
are,
we,
we
had
three
different
components
of
it.
One
one
component
was
the
one
to
three
unit:
housing
ones,
that's
part
of
minneapolis
homes
that
when
has
gone
forward,
it
is
part
of
the
current
rfp,
that's
open
till
the
end
of
the
month,
the
enterprise
one
we
are
planning
to
bring
forward,
it's
very
for
more
public
comment,
but
it's
close
to
being
done
and
it's
what
we
brought
forward
and
talked
a
bit
with
seac,
but
we
will
be
looking
at.
Q
You
know
having
that
open
at
least,
and
it
could
be
a
particular
topic.
But
yes,
that's
gonna,
be
there
the
economic
development
one
which
I
want
to
continue
to
keep
the
pressure
up
is
going
to
be
more
probably
late,
quarter,
two
and
that
that
we're
working
with
cped
to
get
finalized
and
they
have
like
some.
They
have
many
different
programs
at
different
sizes
and
so
there's
a
little
more
complication
on
what
that
applies
to.
Q
But
you
know,
obviously
we
want
to
get
it
out
there
as
soon
as
possible,
so
it
has
the
most
positive
impact
with
the
upper
harbor
terminal,
as
well
as
the
kmart
site.
Some
of
the
other
big
developments
around
southwest,
potentially
as
the
lrt
gets
done
so
all
of
those
will
likely
have
investment
by
the
city
and
then,
of
course,
with
the
enterprise.
Q
We
want
to
be
able
to
keep
the
program
going
to
get
to
basically
constructing
netser
energy
buildings
by
2030.,
so
that'll
be
the
standard,
and
you
know
ultra
efficient
until
then,
and
using
as
much
maxing
out
as
much
renewable
energy
and
and
also
you
know,
trying
to
do
the
best
it
possibly
can,
and
so
we
can
certainly
talk
more
about
that
or
bring
that
forward.
But
again
that's
another
topic
that
takes
a
little
bit
of
time
but
yeah.
That's
that's
kind
of
how
it's
rolling
out
right
now.
B
E
N
Kim
is
there
going
to
be
any
sort
of
update
cycle
baked
into
what
is
finally
adopted
for
economic
development
and
enterprise?
Just
knowing
that
you
know
things
like
the
conversation
about
net
zero
and
as
the
electric
grid
changes
and
as
technologies
on
gas
come
around.
Q
Yeah,
absolutely
yes,
it's
a
required
minimum
every
five
years
and
the
other
thing
is.
Is
I'm
trying
to
also
set
the
pathway
forward
to
create
the
glide
path?
You
know,
so
it's
like.
Okay,
let's
shoot
for
city
enterprise
to
be
the
leader
net
zero
energy-
and
this
is
one
thing-
it'd
be
an
interesting
topic
to
have
with
c
act.
Two
is
how
do
we
define
it
net,
zero
energy.
E
Q
Carbon,
you
know
I
mean
which
one
do
you
use
worldwide:
they're
starting
to
move
to
net
zero
carbon
so
and
how
that
works
out.
But
it
has
all
the
issues
with
nuclear
et
cetera,
but
defining
for
us
how
we
want
to
move
forward
without
what
we're
going
to
define
within
the
climate,
action
and
equity
plan
and
in
regards
to
the
also
just
setting
the
goal
out
there.
Q
If
it's
going
to
be
net
zero
energy
by
2036
for
all
buildings
over
a
certain
size,
let's
put
the
glide
path
there,
so
you
don't
have
to
update
it.
It's
kind
of
like
the
built-in
escalator-
or
in
this
case
the
built-in
de-escalator,
to
try
to
get
us
there
and
understand
what
the
pathway
is,
but
it
does
require
also
every
five
years
to
have
the
plans
updated
at
a.
F
N
Q
Thank
you
all,
really
appreciate
it
and
got
lots
of
exciting
things
to
to
talk
about
as
we
go
forward
so
appreciate
it.