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B
B
The
city
will
be
recording
and
posting
this
meeting
to
the
city's
website
and
youtube
channel
as
a
means
of
increasing
public
access
and
transparency.
This
meeting
is
public
and
subject
to
the
minnesota
open
meeting
law.
For
the
record,
my
name
is
matt
perry
and
I'm
one
of
the
co-chairs
of
the
charter
commission's
redistricting
rules
work
group.
I
will
now
call
this
meeting
to
order
and
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
role
so
that
we
may
verify
the
presence
of
quorum.
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B
F
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B
B
G
H
I
B
That
we
have,
I
think,
it's
important
to
have
something
in
there,
and
I
think
this
what
commissioner
rubenstein
is
proposing
and
chair
clegg
and
commissioner
abbott
have
agreed
is
a
good
idea.
I
also
think
is
a
good
idea
to
have
included
so
that
we
have
some
continuity
between
the
commissioners
and
the
members
of
the
advisory
group.
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E
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F
D
B
And
that
motion
passes,
so
we
will
update
the
rules
appropriately
and,
as
commissioner
rubenstein
co-chair
rubenstein
said,
we'll
circulate
it
to
the
members
of
not
only
the
I.
I
think
we
should
not
only
circulate
it
with
this
body,
but
also
with
the
full
commission,
so
they
can
be
prepared
when
we
get
to
our
may
meeting
that
they
can
see
that
change
so
on
to
item
four
dot.
Two:
the
agenda
and
the
agenda.
Considering
revisions
and
recommendations
to
the.
D
J
Yeah
with
number
13,
I
thought
that
number
13
could
be
combined
with
number
three
and
you
just
update
what
the
what
the
recommended
principles.
Whatever
title
you
use
on
that,
I
think
13
and
3
could
be
combined
so
everything's
in
three,
because
that
lists
the
work
of
the
redistricting
group
and
all
the
parameters
that
they
have
to
use
as
they're
doing
that
work,
and
I
think
it
would
make
more
sense
to
combine
it,
and
I
do
just
to
let
you
know.
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H
B
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B
J
Yes,
the
next
issue
would
be
number
eight
under
number.
Eight,
that's
really
old
language.
It
doesn't
take
into
consideration
the
the
meetings
that
we're
having
remotely
now
and
I
did
bring
this
up
to
casey
and
casey
thoughts,
something
more
like
voting
as
required
by
law
using
some
basic
language
like
that,
or
maybe
we
just
don't,
don't
need
it
just
it
just
needs
to
be
changed.
That's
all.
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G
B
Yeah,
I
actually
this
item
as
it
was
updated
last
summer.
Whenever
we
last
met,
I
think
we
had
good
language
in
there
and
I
would
stick
with
that
language,
so
I'm
I'm
not
supportive
of
reducing
it
to
something
simpler
and,
as
mr
carl
has
said,
either
way
works.
I
would
err
on
the
side
of
commissioner
rubinstein's
original
language
and
she
made
that
change.
J
J
G
Okay,
it
was
changed,
it
says
now
the
redistricting
group
may
use
all
appropriate
means,
including
the
minneapolis
website
and
other
electronic
media,
to
communicate
with
the
public
and
we
added
and
to
provide
access
to
the
public
remotely
by
appropriate
virtual
means
in
the
pandemic,
environment.
Okay,.
J
J
J
J
J
Well,
technically,
we
have
to
hold
four
hearings
and
we
have
to
hold
at
least
two
of
those
hearings
after
giving
a
seven
day
notice
and
inviting
comments
from
each
neighborhood
organization,
and
I
think
that's
similar
to
what
we
have
to
do
with
the
park
board
before
holding
the
last
two
hearings.
The
park
board
is
more
specific
before
here
holding
the
last
two
hearings.
J
We
have
to
know
that
the
commission
has
to
notify
the
park
board
and
then
consider
any
recommendations
by
the
board,
and
it's
kind
of
I
would
say
that's.
The
commission
is
supposed
to
consider
the
recommendations
potentially
before
the
last
two
public
hearings,
but
the
charter
is
a
little
bit,
not
it's
not
as
clear
as
I
would
like
it
to
be.
J
J
J
J
J
Once
the
proposed
redistricting
maps
are
completed,
the
charter
commission
will
hold
at
least
two
city-wide
public
hearings
for
the
purpose
of
reviewing
the
proposed
redistricting
plans
and
securing
the
public's
input.
Maybe
you
add
a
sentence
after
that
saying
before
these
two
public
hearings,
there
must
be
a
seven
day
notice
of
the
hearings.
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J
G
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J
B
K
K
So
it's
a
little
tough
in
in
the
void
to
really
vote
on
these
things,
and
so
I
would
not
be
adverse
to
having
you
know
a
meeting
later.
You
know
in
our
next
meeting
to
go
through
this
after
everybody's
had
a
chance
to
review
the
revised
rules.
Much
like
we
have
the
the
guiding
principles.
So
I'm
not
saying
if
there's
anything
wrong
with
with
what's
being
proposed
by
ms
bushoon,
but
it's
difficult
to
contextualize
it
without,
in
the
absence
of
the
actual
revised
rules,.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner
ginder.
Yes,
one
of
the
the
things
as
a
result
of
today's
work
is
whether
we
approve
the
principles
and
the
rules,
and
I
would
say,
given
what
you
just
said,
whether
we
recommend
these
for
consideration
by
the
full
commission
which
we
have
committed
to
do
before.
The
main
meeting
suggests
that
we
have
to
have
another
meeting,
albeit
maybe
a
short
one,
before
the
may
meeting.
L
Mr
chair,
it's
casey
and
if
I
could
just
jump
in,
I
did
put
into
the
chat
I'm
going
to
call
commissioner
rubenstein's
attention
to
the
chat
area.
Clearly
she
has
a
copy
of
updated
rules
that
I
just
as
staff.
Don't
have
so,
commissioner,
if
you
can
send
those
to
me
I'll
work
with
the
team
on
this
end.
You
know
ms
norgaard
and
ms
weber,
and
also,
of
course,
our
assistant
city
attorney
carol
bashoon
to
make
sure
that
we've
reviewed
those
also
any
discussion
today
and
we
can
put
that
out
in
short
order.
B
So
much
commissioner
ginder,
I
just
want
some
clarification.
Are
you
saying
that
we
shouldn't
go
ahead
and
vote
on
these
without
seeing
those
before
or
those
changes
before
the
the
the
changes
that
we
made
from
last
summer?
Or
are
you
saying
that,
yes,
that
we
do
so
maybe
provisionally
or
what
is
what
is
your
suggestion.
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L
H
B
B
L
B
Okay,
so
with
that,
let's
move
on
to
let's
table
any
further
discussion
and
move
on
to
item
4.2.
The
of
the
agenda,
which
is
getting
considering
revisions
and
recommendations
to
the
guiding
principles
of
the
redistricting
pr
process.
Did
people
have
a
chance
to
see
the
redlined
version
that
came
out
very
last
minute
today.
B
Okay,
so
what
I'm
going
to
suggest
is
that
we
go
through
like
we
did
for
the
rules
we
go
through
these
and
if
anybody
has
any
additional
suggestions
or
comment
that
we
take
them
one
at
a
time
and
if
not
we'll
we'll
just
move
on
rather
than
going
into
explaining
and
reading
them.
So
we'll
start
out
with
guiding
principles
for
the
city
of
minneapolis
redistricting
group,
any
any
changes
with
section,
a
all
members.
J
Yeah
I
mean
it's,
it's
a
minor
change
and
you
can
consider
it
technically.
The
minnesota
legislature
might
not
do
the
redistricting
and
that's
typical
that
the
courts
end
up
doing
it.
So
I
didn't
know
if
you
wanted
to
just
update
that
to
say
after
the
minnesota
legislature
or
the
court
has
completed
the
legislative
reapportionment
process.
J
B
B
B
B
J
Yeah
d1,
technically
the
city
clerk
has
set
out
the
timelines
for
redistricting
and
I
think
some
of
those
are
have
been
approved
periodically.
There
have
been
different
versions
of
that
approved,
so
I
don't
know
that
number
one
is
necessary
and
then
for
number
two
that
could
become
more
generic
outline,
the
legal
requirements
of
redistricting,
so
that
could
cover
numbers,
one
which
sets
out
the
requirement
for
redistricting
and
because
I
could
outline
the
legal
requirements
of
redistricting.
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J
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L
Could
be,
but
not
necessarily,
the
group
that
led
the
census
results
this
time
around
was
the
neighborhood
and
community
relations
department
they'll,
be
the
group
that
receives
the
census
data
that's
transferred
to
us,
as,
as
this
group
is
aware,
we
have
a
very
robust
team
that
will
be
helping
us.
That
represents
multiple
departments.
It
does
include
representation
from
ncr
from
it
and
multiple
departments.
So
if
we
want,
if
we
feel
it's
necessary
to
spell
that
out
in
these
principles,
certainly
we
can
get
a
list.
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B
B
B
K
G
B
B
B
B
So
they
would
be
the
city
attorney's
office,
the
clerk's
office,
the
neighborhood
and
community
relations
department,
the
information
technology
department,
the
coordinators
race
and
equity
division,
the
city
communications
department
and
the
community
planning
and
economic
development
department.
So
that
would
be
the
such
as
everyone,
okay
with
including
those
as
such.
As.
B
J
J
I'm
wondering
if
that
is
a
correct
process
that
you
want
and
I'm
wondering
if
that
would
be
nicole.
If
that's
who
we're
talking
about
I'm,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
understood,
because
that
that
could
be
quite
a
bit
of
work.
I
don't
know
if
you
wanted
to
go
to
the
chair
of
the
chair
of
the
charter
commission,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you're
looking
at
the
current
process.
G
I,
with
due
respect
to
nicole,
I
did
double
check
your
title
when
we
were
when
was
going
through
these
and
that
I
know
that
is
the
correct
title,
and
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
it's
only
talking
about
advisory
group
member,
it's
a
lot
to
ask
in
one
way,
but
also
it's
only.
The
advisory
group
members
are
referring
to
here
and
we're
also
trying
to
ensure
that
they
attend
all
the
meetings
as
they
can,
so
that
this
one
hopes
will
not
come
up.
That
often.
J
B
I
I
I
do
want
to
let
you
know
that
grant
johnson,
who
is
the
main
I.t
resource
for
the
clerk's
office
did
just
have
a
redistricting
specific
email
address,
created
and
as
soon
as
that's
up
and
running,
which
should
be
sometime
today.
That
would
be
what
we
would
use
to
collect
those
types
of
comments
and
myself
and
maddie
will
both
have
access
to
that
email
address.
So
I
would
also
you
know.
I
wouldn't
want
to
speak
for
maddie
and
maddie's
expectations
of
her
responsibilities
either.
I
B
B
B
B
J
Perry
when
I
read
through
this,
the
words
experienced
such
as
but
is
not
limited
to,
I
didn't
really
understand
what
that
meant,
and
then
this
is
written
at
some
point
toward
the
end
it's
written
in
the
to
the
individual.
It
says
from
your
occupational
perspective,
so
I
think
it's
just
worded
a
little
awkwardly
for
from
for
my
taste.
E
E
B
B
So
I
think
what
we
were
trying
to
do
was
give
some
examples
of
the
diversity
that
we
were
seeking
not
only
being
racial
diversity,
but
diversity
in
thought
and
experience.
And
so
we're
trying
to
capture
that.
That's
where
the
such
as
comes
from
and
you're
correct.
Living
in
the
city
is
probably
something
that
can
be
struck
since
you
have
to
be
living
in
the
city
to
be
on
the
advisory
group
in
the
redistricting
group.
G
You
I
this.
This
change
came
from
our
meeting
last
week
with
the
chairs,
the
co-chairs
of
the
advisory
group
work
group,
and
I
I
think
it
just
got
a
little
garbled
when
it
got
written
out,
and
I
think
what
was
perhaps
what
was
meant
to
say
it
was
also.
Some
of
these
other
items
reflect
what
is
was
on
at
least
last
time,
the
application
for
becoming
an
advisory
group
member.
So
I
would
suggest
that
we
say.
G
Instead,
this
diversity
includes
racial
diversity
and
diversity
of
experience
such
as
and
delete,
but
not
limited
to
knowledge
of
the
city
rather
than
living
in
the
city.
Geographical,
represent
representation
and
or
experience
from
one's
occupational
perspective,
and
that
might
make
it
a
little
clearer.
H
A
You
know,
commissioner
abbott
here
I've
got
my
hand
up
yeah
I
was
I
was
going
to
make
a
suggestion
that
was
almost
identical
to
what
commissioner
rubenstein
made
and
I
also
agree
with
barry's
revision
there.
So
it's
it's
it's
as
it
is
it's
kind
of
an
awkward
kind
of
ungrammatical
sentence,
and
I
think
those
revisions
fix
that.
Okay.
B
B
B
B
J
J
Technically,
it's
under
the
charter
that
new
language
says
it's
neighborhood
organizations
recognized
by
the
city
council,
and
so
I
would
and
it
they
have
to
be
solicited
prior
to
these
two
public
hearings.
So
my
language
for
that
that
sentence
could
read.
Neighborhood
organizations
recognized
by
the
city
council
shall
be
solicited
for
input
prior
to
these
two
public
hearings.
B
B
B
J
B
G
G
J
I
I
think
it
depends.
What
happens
I
mean
if
the
district
court
just
sends
sends
it
back
to
us
and
we
revise
it
and
there's
no
appeal,
then
we
revise
it.
If
there's
an
appeal,
then
probably
that
we
would
be
looking
at
whether
or
not
pending
the
appeal
we
should
be,
you
know
we
should
be
doing
the
work
in
anticipation
of
the
district
court
being
up,
you
know,
order
being
upheld
or
whether
there
would
be
some
kind
of
a
a
state
pending
the
appeal.
So
I
think
it
depends
on
what
happens.
Procedurally.
J
J
J
B
H
H
We
kept
the
to
be
on
the
the
redistricting
group.
You
must
be
an
eligible
voter
in
the
city,
but
we're
not
talking
about
the
bare
minimum
qualification
when
we
refer
to
active
residents.
We
want
somebody
who
is
active
in
their
city
as
a
city
resident
and
we
could
say
active
citizens
if
we
like
that
language
better
because
they
do
have
to
be
registered
voters.
So
that
implies
citizen.
J
That
would
I
guess
when,
when
we
had
that
meeting
I
I
guess
I
was
steering
people
away
from
using
the
word
citizen.
Yes,
you
do
have
to
be
a
voter,
a
registered
or
not
a
registered
voter,
an
eligible
voter,
which
means
you
have
to
be
a
citizen
of
the
united
states.
But
typically
the
city
doesn't
use
the
term
citizen
unless
it
means
like
you
have
to
be
a
citizen
of
the
united
states.
J
B
B
C
K
K
The
process
will
be
done
in
public
meetings
and
to
me
that
includes
the
reviewing
of
all
of
the
applications
being
done
in
public
meetings
and
generally,
all
the
documents
that
are
being
reviewed
during
a
public
meeting
are
open
to
the
public,
and
my
concern
is
that
on
those
applications
that
there
will
be
non-public
information
that
then
we
will
have
to
go
through
and
either
strike
out
the
non-public
or
some
other
issues.
So
my
concern
is
that
it
probably
should
be
more
likely
that
the
selection,
the
final
selection,
will
be
done
in
public
meetings.
L
I
tend
to
concur
and
one
of
the
things
we
talked
about
early
on,
I
think,
with
the
advisory
selection
group
work
group
was
the
idea
that
the
clerk's
office
would
work
with
that
that
group
on
preparing
materials
for
for
the
consideration
of
the
appointment
process,
so
that
if
there
was
the
need
to
do
redactions,
we
could
prepare
those
and
ensure
that
the
only
information
presented
was
truly
public
data.
To
your
point,
commissioner,
ginder.
K
K
J
The
reason
I'm
saying
that
is,
I
don't
think
advisory
committees
have
to
have
have
to
be
they're.
Not
I
don't
think
they're
subject
to
the
open
meeting
law,
and
so
they
could
review
applications
discuss
them,
but
then,
if
they
make
a
recommendation
of
course
that
must
be
made
in
public,
and
I
don't
know
if
commissioner
ginder
agrees
with
that,
but
that's
might
be
a
way
to
do
it.
H
This
is
clegg.
Yes,
I
was
just
going
to
query
again.
Why
would
the
advisory
group
not
be
subject
to
the
open
meeting
law?
I
mean
we
are
an
advise.
We
are
a
co-committee
equal
to
the
advisory
group
and
we're
subject
to
the
open
meeting
law
and
the
advisory
committee
meetings
have
been
held
publicly,
all
of
them.
So
what
I
was
going
to
suggest,
rather
than
try
and
get
into
that
is
just
say
after
the
word,
the
charter
commission
itself
to
review
all
applications.
J
The
chair
perry
may
respond
to
that
sure.
Yes,
I
mean
technically,
we
could
have
a
public
hearing
where
they,
the
committee,
can
discuss
non-public
data
and
then
we
could
have
available
to
the
public
the
redacted
versions
of
the
documents.
They
do
not
get
the
unredacted
versions,
but
at
the
meeting
they
would
be
discussing
some,
not
public
data
for,
for
example,
people
might
be
talking
about.
J
I
I
know
in
the
back.
I
I
there
might
be
some
things
that
are
not
public
and
I'm
trying
to
think
I
haven't.
I
haven't
looked
at
the
application
for
a
little
bit,
but
there
may
be
some
things
that
are
not
public.
They
may
talk
about
like
how
would
you
bring
diversity
if
they're
discussing
that?
How
would
this
person
bring
diversity?
B
G
J
I
understand
that
all
of
these
committee
meetings,
like
the
one
we're
having
now,
is
public
and
that's
the
safest
bet,
but
that's
why
I
brought
up
the
issue,
but
we
could
we
could
always
just.
We
could
just
make
sure
that
everything
is
redacted
and
we
don't
provide
the
paper
copies
with
unredacted
to
the
public,
and
maybe
that's
why
I
bring
up
this
issue.
Maybe
we
should
leave
it
a
little
bit
more
generic
and
work
work
out
those
issues.
B
H
B
J
Yes,
it's
it's
not
real
clear
and
it
does
talk
about
sitting
together
as
one
group
which
to
me
it's
like
a
visual
thing
of
people
sitting
together,
so
I
I
suggest
that
it
be
made
a
little
bit
more
simple
and
maybe
we
just
say
the
redistricting
group
will
propose
to
the
charter.
Commission,
the
new
minneapolis
warden
park
board.
B
B
F
B
B
F
B
G
Yeah,
I
would
just
add
that
this
is
more
an
informational
item.
I'm
not
sure
it's
anything
we
need
to
vote
on.
I
don't
remember
how
it
came
about.
I
suspect
that
commissioner
schwarzkopf
drafted
it
for
us
last
time
and
I
it's
called
redistricting
timeline,
but
actually
I
changed
the
title
because
it
really
just
talks
about
all
the
steps
that
we
take
in
the
redistricting
process.
G
So
I
think
it's
very
useful
for
the
communications
and
outreach
committee
to
use
and
we
may
just
want
to
pass
it
on
to
them
or
whatever
we
want
to
do
with
it.
We
might
want
to
look
at
it
a
little
more
to
see
if
we
want
to
change
anything,
but
certainly
not
today,
since
our
meeting
is
coming
to
an
end.
J
B
Okay,
so
without
objection,
if
there's
no
objection,
objects
we'll
table
this
until
next
meeting,
and
so
I
think
we
are
at
the
end
of
our
time
and
we
are
at
the
end
of
our
agenda.
So
with
that,
I
think
we've
concluded
all
of
our
business
to
come
before
today's
charter
commission's
redistricting
rule
group
and
without
objection.
We
stand
adjourned
thanks
for
everybody's
time.