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From YouTube: May 17, 2021 Civil Rights Commission
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A
B
C
The
regular
meeting
of
the
minneapolis
civil
rights
commission
will
now
begin.
It
is
603
pm
on
may
17
2021.
good
evening.
Everyone,
my
name
is
mackenzie
colas.
I
am
the
chair
of
the
civil
rights
commission
and
I'm
going
to
call
this
meeting
for
may
17
2021
to
order.
I
want
to
welcome
everyone
joining
us
this
evening.
C
As
we
begin,
I
will
note
for
the
record
that
this
meeting
has
remote
participation,
members
of
the
commission
and
city
staff
as
authorized
under
minnesota
statutes,
section
13d
0.021
due
to
the
declaration
due
to
the
declared
local
public
health
emergency.
The
city
will
be
recording
and
posting
this
meeting
to
the
city
website
and
youtube
channel
as
a
means
of
increasing
public
access
and
transparency.
C
C
E
A
Yes,
there
is
maybe
there's
a
audio
issue
like
janelle
vice
chair,
shoemaker
you're,
the
hero
right.
D
Oh
okay,
so
swift.
C
Just
running
right
now
he
just
joined,
and
then
it
looked
like
commissioner
devin
divinish
also
joined.
D
J
D
D
K
D
L
M
D
N
C
Stephen
actually
is
no
longer
with
the
commission,
and
I
was
going
to
let
the
commission
know
that
as
well
and
then
we
had
commissioner
davis
yep.
D
Jessie
swift,
we
have
davis,
yes,
okay,
what's
up.
D
D
C
C
Commissioners,
the
agenda
for
today's
meeting
is
before
us
and
was
updated
in
the
addendum
packet
for
as
well.
May
I
please
have
a
motion
to
adopt
the
agenda.
This.
C
Thank
you.
We
have
a
proper
motion
before
us
by
commissioner
definish
and
seconded
by
commissioner
shumake.
Is
there
any
discussion
before
the
clerk
calls
the
role.
E
O
H
J
D
D
P
D
C
That
motion
passes
and
the
agenda
is
adopted
for
item
three
of
the
election
of
the
agenda.
We
have
the
election
of
the
civil
rights
commission
secretary.
C
As
I
noted
earlier,
commissioner
stevens
had
to
step
away
from
the
commission.
She's
really
excited
for
the
work,
that's
happening
and
is
hopeful
for
being
able
to
collaborate
with
the
commission
in
the
future,
but
we
do
need
to
do
a
new
election
first
secretary.
C
Oh
wait,
sure
I'm
sorry,
I'm
looking
at
the
script
and
it
says
election
of
secretary,
but
it
says
the
acceptance
of
minutes
underneath
so
my
apologies.
I
will
go
to
the
acceptance
of
the
minutes.
C
C
P
My
item
is
that
I
retrieved
the
minutes,
which
were
actually
headed
the
20th
of
april
online.
Not
the
19th
and
the
minutes
don't
actually
reflect
the
fact
that
there
was
a
motion
at
the
last
meeting
to
include
in
the
motions
that
have
been
passed
at
the
previous
meeting,
and
I
know
that
you're
all
sick
of
my
termination
and
the
actions
that
were
taken
to
fix
that
issue.
But
the
actual
minutes
that
we
have
before
us
say
that
we
are
including
the
motions
that
were
passed
at
the
march
15th
meeting.
P
I'm
kind
of
frustrated
by
why
we
specifically
read
into
the
minutes
the
motions
that
were
passed
and
that
isn't
reflected
in
the
minutes
that
have
come
back
and
I'm
also
frustrated
that
this
was
specifically
about
amending
the
previous
minutes.
And
when
I
withdrew
those
today
online,
those
haven't
been
amended
either.
I
don't
know
what
the
proper
response
to
that
is,
but
I'm
not
prepared
to
vote
for
accepting
those
minutes
while
they
contain
those
two
basic
errors.
C
Thank
you,
commissioner
ferrar.
So
I
wonder
if,
because
the
city
has
taken
a
or
they've
decided
to
step
away
from
their
role
with
our
commission,
so
now
we
are
going
to
be
working
with
diana
roman
who's
here
with
the
from
the
city,
and
so
through
that
I'm
wondering
if
maybe
we
can
have
a
meeting
with
diana
to
to
make
sure
that
those
things
are
reflected
in
the
new
minutes
as
well
or
like
we
can
amend
them
as
well,
but
make
sure
that
what
concerns
you
have
for
previous
minutes
are
also
addressed.
C
Can
talk
to
diana
clark,
the
city
clerk's
office?
Their
role
with
the
commission
is
no
longer.
C
A
Yes,
so
the
the
administ,
like
the
administrative
work
around
commission
meetings,
has
moved
away
from
the
clerk's
office
and
back
to
the
civil
rights
department,
so
diana
roman
has
very
graciously
accepted
to
help
us
out
with
doing
the
administrative
tasks
of
the
commission.
So
we,
the
civil
rights
department
staff,
were
not
the
ones
that
wrote
those
previous
minutes,
but
what
I
can
do
is
just
make
sure
that
we
go
back
and
make
sure
they
were
properly
properly
edited
so
that
they
reflect
what
was
voted
on.
A
P
Certainly,
you
know
if
particularly
if
we
record
that
in
the
minutes
from
tonight's
meeting,
because
I
don't
want
to
be
frustrated.
But
I
clearly
am
and
if
we
say
that's
what
we're
going
to
do
I'll
be
happy
to
work
with
diana
or
with
kayla
or
whomever
just
to
make
sure
that
we
get
the
record
straight
for
the
next
meeting
that
we
come
to.
K
Yeah,
I
I
would
just
like
to
point
out
in
the
minutes
that,
in
the
section
regarding
the
task
force
on
the
accountability
of
the
killing
of
george
floyd,
that
trial
is
misspelled
in
all
instances
in
that
section
as
trail.
So
you
might
just
want
to
change.
H
C
Okay,
well,
I
will
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
roll
on
the
motion
to
adopt
them
and
it's
on
the
april
17th
meeting.
D
I
have
made
notes
for
both
of
those
items
that
you
spoke
about
and
I
will
check
on
that
in
the
morning
and
then
get
back
to
you,
commissioner.
Colas.
C
B
I
don't
think
we
got
a
second
to
move
forward.
Did
we.
N
C
Q
O
I
D
D
D
P
D
P
C
C
We
we
had
emotions.
Did
we
I'm
sorry,
because
I
believe
that
we're
gonna
work
with
diana
and
kayla
to
get
those
minutes
from
the
previous
meetings
amended
the
people
the
meeting
before
the
last?
Was
it
the
march
meeting.
C
C
I
I
believe
the
motion
on
the
table
was
that
we
were
going
to
accept
the
minutes
and
then
a
part
of
the
discussion
you
had
brought
that
up,
but
there
was
no
motion
to
amend
the
minutes.
P
So
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
some
problem
with
the
procedure
that
I
don't
understand,
but
it
appears
that
we
just
again
voted
for
something
to
be
accepted
and
we're
agreeing
for
changes
to
be
made.
But
that
isn't
reflected
in
the
resolution
or
the
motion
that
we
just
took
we're
voting
to
accept
the
minutes
as
presented.
L
C
P
Thank
you
and
then
just
as
a
point
of
order,
when
I
think
kayla
and
or
diana
has
said,
and
I
will
check
back
with
you-
was
that
you
referring
to
the
chair
or
was
that
referring
to
me
because
it
was
my
point
of
order
and
resolution
that
had
been
missed.
The
last
time
I'm
offering
to
help
either
of
you
make
sure
we
set
the
record
right.
H
C
G
Chair
jeremy,
I
was
just
gonna,
make
a
suggestion
for
your
consideration
that
perhaps
the
the
minutes
from
this
meeting
don't
need
to
be
approved
tonight,
since
it
seems
that
there
are
suggestions
that
changes
should
be
made.
But
I
don't
fully
understand
the
suggestion
that's
being
made.
Perhaps
the
previous
recording
should
be
reviewed
and
the
minute
should
be
approved
at
a
future
meeting.
Of
course
that's
completely
up
to
the
commission,
but
I
just
offered
that
for
your
consideration.
H
C
So
we
have
the
proper
motion
before
us
and
with
miss
andrew
and
eve's
comment.
Do
we
have
any
discussion
or
otherwise
I'll
ask
the
click
to
call
the.
B
Role
so
to
clarify,
could
you
specify
what
we're
voting
on
now.
K
L
C
D
D
Shepherd
not
here
lord
epstein
kirkman,.
D
D
H
P
L
B
Question
call
us-
and
this
is
to
chair-
I
mean
to
commissioner
lord,
our
commissioner-
laura,
did
you
suggest
we
vote
on
something
else?
Are
we
moving
forward
from
this.
K
C
Thank
you
very
quick
question.
Next
is
the
election
of
the
secretary
in
accordance
with
the
commission's
election
procedures,
this
office
is
for
an
unexpired
one-year
term.
Nominations
can
be
made
by
any
commissioner
present
at
the
meeting
and
do
not
require
a
second.
After
nominations.
Are
closed
candidates
will
be
given
a
maximum
of
three
minutes
to
speak
to
why
they
would
like
to
be
considered
for
the
position.
C
After
all,
candidates
have
completed
their
speeches.
A
question
and
answer
period
by
commissioners
will
be
held
for
a
maximum
time
limit
of
five
minutes.
The
q
and
a
shall
involve
all
candidates,
inc,
concluding
with
a
vote
in
order.
The
candidates
were
nominated.
Are
there
any
questions
about
the
process?
As
I've
explained,
it.
F
C
Sorry,
just
writing
that
down.
Okay,
seeing
no
other
nominations
next,
the
nomination
period
is
now
closed.
Next,
each
candidate
will
be
recognized
in
order
to
speak
for
a
period
of
two
minutes.
Commissioner
cobia
you
may
have
the
floor.
M
Okay,
hi
everyone.
I
was
the
secretary
in
2019
for
the
commission
in
my
first
year
and
part
of
what
I
tried
to
do
was
streamline.
M
You
know
well,
first,
take
more
detailed
notes,
which
I
think
commissioner
stevens
did
an
even
better
job
of
continuing
and
to
to
try
to
deal
with
the
absence
absence
issue
which
is
being
dealt
with.
I'm
gonna
say
I
wouldn't
say
it's
ever
complete,
but
you
know
it's
ongoing
and
then
last
year
I
was
on
the
commission
as
a
commissioner
and
this
year
I
am
actually
the
chair
of
the
workforce
and
contract
compliance
subcommittee.
So
we
would
need
a
new
chair.
M
I
believe,
if
you
elect
me
secretary,
I'm
happy
to
do
it,
I'm
quite
a
fast
typer,
but
as
long
as
I
don't
have
to
handwrite
anything,
because
I
have
absolutely
horrible
handwriting,
but
you
know
I'm
I'm
I'm
happy
to
let
someone
else
take
a
leadership
role
as
well,
so
I
will
leave
it
up
to
all
of
you.
C
Thank
you,
commissioner
cobia.
Commissioner
davis,
you
may
have
the
floor
now.
N
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
nomination.
I
would
be
happy
to
take
on
the
role,
though
I've
not
done
it
before
so.
It'd
obviously
be
a
great
learning
experience
for
me,
but
I
can
type
pretty
good,
I'm
pretty
good
at
taking
notes
and
things
like
that,
but
I'm
definitely
not
experiencing
this
as
far
as
this
commission
goes,
since
this
is
my
first
year,
so
I'm
open
for
whatever
you
guys
want,
I'm
ready
for
the
challenge.
If
that
be
the
case,.
C
K
M
Want
me
to
go
first,
I
I
really
enjoyed
doing
it.
Two
years
ago
I
actually
had
the
opportunity
to
share
a
meeting
which
was
sort
of
impressive,
that
all
three
of
the
people,
ranked
ahead
of
me
were
were
out
for
one
meeting,
and
that
was
a
little
stressful,
but
I
I
I
definitely
enjoyed
being
secretary
and
trying
to
take
some
of
the
behind
the
scenes.
M
Work
off
the
plate
of
you
know
the
chair
and
the
vice
chair,
but
I'm
I'm
also
enthusiastic
about
being
the
subcommittee
chair
of
workforce
and
contract
compliance,
and
you
know
I
certainly
can't
do
both.
M
A
N
C
We
have
the
support
for
the
tools
for
secretary,
and
I
know
the
position
may
look
a
little
different
than
it
did
in
the
beginning
of
the
commission,
with
the
role
of
the
city
clerk's
office,
changing,
but
we're
working
on
that
with
diana
as
well,
so
that
will
be
coming
up,
but
it
looks
like
we
don't
have
anything
else,
any
other
questions,
so
we
will
proceed
with
the
election
of
the
commission
secretary.
A
major
majority
vote
is
required
to
elect
an
officer
clerk.
Please
call
the
roll
on
the
nomination
of
commissioner.
C
C
A
C
B
Devinish,
yes,.
D
D
O
H
D
J
R
D
D
P
D
M
A
G
Chair
coalesce,
I
would
be
happy
to
weigh
in
on
that,
if
you
would
like
please
thank
you.
That
would
be
great
sure.
The
rules
provide
that
election
shall
be
by
a
simple
majority
of
the
commissioners
present
and
voting.
So
we
would
not
count
the
folks
who
abstained
and
it
would
be
the
majority
of
those
who
did
vote.
So
I
believe,
if
I
believe
diana
said
it
was
eight
yeses
and
seven
no's
correct
me.
G
If
I'm
wrong
please
so
then
that
would
be
a
majority
of
the
votes
cast
would
be
for
commissioner
cobia
to
become.
C
G
That's
correct
because,
because
the
vote
the
majority
was
for
commissioner
cobia,
then
there
would
not
be
a
majority
for
the
other
candidate.
Okay,
commissioner,.
F
Yeah
question
andrea:
if,
if
the
people
who
abstained
wanted
to
vote
for
the
other
candidate,
would
they
be
allowed
to
do
that.
F
G
Well,
because
of
the
way
the
election
procedure
is
set
up
because
the
the
the
election
is
done,
you
know
in
the
order
of
the
first
candidate,
if
you
chose
not
to
vote
it's
a
little
late
to
now
vote,
I'm
afraid.
G
G
The
the
options
for
voting,
the
only
options
I
am
aware
of
ever
are
yes,
no
and
to
choose
not
to
vote,
which
is
an
abstention
present.
Isn't?
Okay,
isn't
the
vote.
C
So
we
have
eight
yeses
for
commissioner
cobia
that
motion
passes
and
commissioner
cobia
has
been
elected
as
secretary.
C
C
C
Show
thank
you
for
clarifying,
so
for
the
fourth
agenda
item
we
have,
we
will
be
receiving
an
update
on
the
lease,
the
less
lethal
weapon
research
project,
so
item,
there's
an
update
on
the
resolution
opposing
less
lethal
weapons,
which
will
be
given
by
commissioner
mark
zugnani.
I
will
now
invite
commissioner
sunyani
to
give
that
report.
O
Thank
you
so,
just
as
a
backup
there
is
the
resolution
of
city
council
is
in
the
data
packet,
so
I
will
not
review
that
with
anyone,
but
so
what
has
happened
since
that
time?
We
have
been
engaged
with
the
civil
rights
department,
the
mayor's
office
and
and
by
way
of
the
mayor's
office,
trying
to
get
access
to
the
data
of
the
minneapolis
police
department
as
to
their
use
and
logistical
deployment
of
non-lethal
weapons.
O
I
believe
jared
jeffries
from
mayor
fry's
office
is
on
the
line
here
and
I
just
wanted
to
open
the
with
the
with
the
chair's
permission
to
let
jared
introduce
himself
and
just
kind
of
recommit
that
the
the
mayor
is
behind.
This
is
that,
if
jared,
if
you
would
like
to
unblock
your
line,
please
introduce
that.
Q
I
will
be
very
brief
here
then.
Thank
you,
chairman.
Thank
you,
commissioner
stignani.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
here
before
the
commission
today.
I
have
been
working
with
commissioner
stignani
chairmae
and
vice
church
schumic
to
make
sure
that
the
mccr
is
getting
the
data
for
leslie
the
weapons
from
mpd
that
all
of
you
are
requesting.
Q
We
have
that
request
underway
right
now.
Mpd
the
clerk's
office
and
a
few
other
city
departments
are
are
gathering
that
data
now,
as
far
as
the
fields
that
are
going
to
be
available
for
study
and
I'll
be
reconvening
with
chairman
viceroy
schumic
and
commissioner
stignie
here
in
the
near
future,
to
discuss
what
those
fields
are.
So
the
commission
may
make
formal
requests
of
all
the
the
data
around
less
lethal
weapons,
and
I
said
I'll
try
to
be
brief
here,
but
I
am
here
as
an
extension
of
the
mayor's
office.
Q
I
apologize
for
not
being
able
to
turn
on
my
camera
tonight,
but
I
will
be
able
to
do
so
in
the
future
here.
Hopefully,
but
I
am
an
accenture,
the
mayor's
office
and
if
there's
ever
anything
that
any
mccr
commissioner
needs,
please
don't
hesitate
to
reach
out
my
email
contact
information
is
pretty
accessible
on
the
city's
website.
So
I'm
very
pleased
to
be
your
extension
to
the
mayor's
office
and
again,
let
me
know
if
there's
anything
that
you
ever
need.
O
Much
appreciated,
thank
you
so
with
with
that
I'll.
Just
continue
on
there's
three
parts
of
this
research
project,
as
we
have
right
now.
First,
is
the
access
to
the
data
which
we're
discussing
and
kayla,
particularly
in
particular,
has
been
also
helpful.
Getting
information
from
the
procurement
department,
the
dimensions
we're
attempting
to
look
at
is
what
are
the
the
non-later
less
legal
weapons
being
used?
How
much
are
we
buying?
How
much
are
we
using
what
sort
of
records
do
they
keep?
What
sort
of
policies
do
they
have?
O
We
get
the
data,
then
the
next
level
is
engaging
with
the
data
you
know
both
with
experts
and
with
with
the
commission.
We
have
secured
at
least
a
partial
agreement
with
one
of
the
national
experts
in
these
types
of
weapons
out
of
wayne
state
university.
O
Cynthia
beer,
who's
agreed
to
you
know
help
us
interpret
this
data
in
in
a
way.
That's
not,
you
know,
takes
us
above
and
beyond,
where
we
are
as
commissioners
here
we're
also
looking
to
validate
this
data
with
public
information.
High
resolution
photos
from
both
the
media
and
from
the
public,
which
will
lead
us
then
to
the
third
step.
Third
step
is
where
we're
going
to
work
with
the
community
engagement
subcommittee
to
begin
to
do
surveys
of
people
who
have
had
their
civil
rights
impacted
in
some
manner.
O
You
know
by
a
non-lethal
weapon,
or
you
know
the
subject
of
a
non-lethal
weapon.
So
to
that
end
we
will
be
working
with
the
community
engagement
subcommittee
to
push
out
surveys
for
the
people,
I'm
assuming
we
have
media
on
this
call.
So
we
would,
you
know,
welcome,
I
think,
the
engagement
of
the
local
news
media
as
well
to
help
push
that
survey
out
and
have
as
high
high
high
value
response
as
we
can
get
it
for.
O
So
then,
once
we
get
all
out
the
other
way,
we'll
then
they'll
be
able
to
present
a
good
picture
back
to
the
city
council,
as
well
as
the
mayor's
office
of
what
we
have
plus
and
the
you
know.
Most
importantly,
the
impact
to
the
community
and
those
who
have
been
impacted
by
you
know
one
of
these
methodologies
of
less
lethal
weapons.
O
I'll
now
turn
it
back
to
may.
If
you
have
any
concluding
remarks
or
if
there's
any
discussion.
C
Yeah,
thank
you,
commissioner
cignani,
and
thank
you,
mr
jeffries.
It's
been
very
great,
being
able
to
work
alongside
the
mayor's
office
and
with
kayla
and
really
being
able
to
look
into
some
data
and
ask
questions
that
maybe
we
haven't
asked
in
the
past.
So
it's
it's
been
a
an
interesting
journey
requesting
things
that
we
don't
know
if
we're
going
to
get
access
to,
but
things
are
really
moving
along
and
really
fast,
and
commissioner
sunyani
has
been
doing
really
great
work
along
that.
I
do
see
a
hand
up
from
commissioner
ferrar.
P
I
do
have
a
question
if
this
is
the
right
time
to
ask
a
question.
Please
well
my
question:
is
this
the
I
like
the
the
resolution
I
like
evidence-based
stuff?
I
particularly
like
the
fact
there's
a
bunch
of
data
here.
All
of
that
is
great.
What
my
question
relates
to
is
maybe
the
unintended
consequence
of.
If
this
resolution
was
followed
and
by
the
unintended
consequence,
I
mean
there's
an
underlying
problem.
P
The
underlying
problem
is
that
poorly
trained,
poorly
recruited,
poorly
supervised
police
inappropriately
use
force.
That's
like
an
undeniable
fact
that
we've
seen
over
the
last
couple
of
years,
at
least,
and
that
they
used
force
inappropriately
both
lethal
and
non-lethal,
and
what
this
resolution
is
doing
is
not
actually
addressing
the
underlying
problem,
their
inappropriate
use
of
force.
All
it's
doing
is
taking
away
the
non-lethal
force.
P
So
I
wonder
what
is
a
question?
How
do
we
stop
the
unintended
consequence
of
we
still
have
poorly
recruited,
poorly
trained,
poorly
supervised
police
from
whom
we've
taken
away
non-lethal
force,
so
the
only
things
they
can
do
now
is
inappropriately
use
lethal
force.
How
is
that
not
making
things
worse.
O
And
if,
if
I
may,
your
points
are
valid,
commissioner
ferrar,
I
think
what
we're
attempting
to
do
right
now
is
get
data
that
has
been.
You
know,
unavailable
at
this
point
forward.
You
know
whether
something
is
you
know
whether
they
even
follow
their
own
policies
will
come
out
of
this.
What
we're
trying
to
do
here
is
bring
as
much
data
forward
so
that
the
unintended
consequences
are
exposed
as
we're
going
to
see.
O
I
don't
think
that
you
know
we
also
have
had
commissioner
gold's
work
and
discussion
on
qualified
immunity,
which
would
then
take
away
the
the
lethal
aspect
as
well.
So
I
don't
think
there's
only
one
path
here.
I
think
a
lot
of
this
is
bringing
data
out
having
experts
address
the
data,
and
you
know
less
than
lethal
weapons,
as
the
mayor's
representative
jared
had
put
forward
is
probably
the
better
term,
because
there's
there's
been
quite
a
number
of
fatalities
and
especially
if
they're
used
in
appropriately
targeting
heads
and
torsos
above
the
waistline.
O
So
the
whole
point
here
is
to
put
as
much
you
know
sunlight
as
we
can
on
how
the
true
police
have
used
them
previously
and
then,
if
it
is
clearly
outside
the
boundaries
as
as
posited,
that
should
not
be
something
that's
hidden
and
then
our
goal
is
to
put
the
light
on
to
that.
And
then,
if
we
move
into
the
deadly
force
then
we
have
to.
Then
we
have
the
the
the
next
item
on
qualified
immunity
to
bring
forth
so
attempting
to
eat
this
apple.
O
You
know
a
couple
bites,
but
your
points
are
valid.
I
certainly
don't
want
to
dismiss
them
in
any
fashion
there,
but
I
can
we're
doing
we're
going
as
fast
as
we
can.
I
think
on
this
one,
and
we
want
to
try
to
maintain
an
objectivity
to
this
data
extraction
that
that
would
allow
us
to
stand
up-
and
you
know,
show
the
data,
that's
correct
and
improper
and
then
move
forward
with
our
conclusions.
At
a
later
point,.
C
R
I
I
would
like
to
respond
to
commissioner
farrar's
statement
that
or
comment
that
it's
poorly
trained
police
that
are
killing
people.
I
want
to
remind
the
commission
that
derek
chauvin
who's
now
been
convicted
of
second
and
third
degree.
Murder
had
been
on
the
minneapolis
police
force
for
19
years
that
kimberly
potter,
who
shot
dante,
wright,
had
been
a
police
officer
for
more
than
20
years
and,
in
fact,
was
trained
people
on
the
police
force
herself.
C
I
Actually,
I
think,
can
you
hear
me.
C
N
P
So
can
I
speak
now,
so
I
was
just
misquoted
then
I
did
not
say
more.
Training
was
the
answer.
What
I
said
very
carefully
was
poorly
trained
people.
Who've
been
trained
for
many
years
are
not
necessarily
trained
well,
and
people
who
do
things
that
are
irresponsible
and
criminally
negligent
have
not
been
trained
properly.
P
When
I
said
poorly
trained,
I
stick
by
poorly
trained
and
if
you
want
to
equate
many
years
of
training
with
being
trained
well
then
I
think
that's
a
fault
on
your
part
and
probably
one
of
the
fundamental
errors
that
the
minneapolis
police
department
has
subjected
the
citizens
of
the
city
to
for
year
after
year
coming
in
here
and
telling
us
about
someone
had
19
years
of
training
and
therefore
training
isn't.
The
answer
is
exactly
the
sort
of
thing
that
we
are
trying
to
address.
C
As
a
result,
thank
you,
commissioner.
Gold.
C
I
My
comment
was
to
my
fellow
commissioner,
commissioner:
is
it
hearts
who
was
speaking
before?
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
and
I
second
everything
you
said.
C
Thank
you,
everybody
that
weighed
in,
and
thank
you
to
commissioner
tsunami
for
that
report.
I'm
seeing
another
for
no
further
questions.
I
will
direct
the
clerk
to
receive
and
file
that
report
item.
Five
on
the
agenda
is
an
update
on
the
investigation
into
civil
rights
in
minneapolis,
which
will
be
given
by
commissioner
ferrar.
I
will
now
invite
commissioner
ferrar
to
give
that
report.
You'll
have
10
minutes
for
the
report
and
then
we'll
have
about
five
minutes
for
questions
afterwards.
P
Thank
you.
I
don't
really
have
a
report.
Okay,
what
I
had
distributed
to
everybody
was
a
copy
of
a
report
that
was
released
by
the
international
commission
of
inquiry
on
systemic
racist
police
violence
in
the
united
states,
and
you
all
got
a
copy
of
that
and
it
details
some
horrific
perspectives
on
australia
on
american
policing.
P
P
A
couple
of
years
ago
we
had
representatives
of
an
audit
committee
present
to
us
how
the
city
has
gone
about
recruiting
police
and
our
perspective
on
that,
as
professionals
and
people
interested
in
civil
rights
should
actually
be
presented
to
the
doj.
D
C
C
Oh
and
we
have
to
chair
our
vice
chair,
shoemake.
F
Hi,
thank
you,
commissioner
ferrari.
I
think
that
this
is
excellent
and
I
think
it
actually
goes
really
well
in
line
with
what
we
have
been
doing,
trying
to
get
data
from
different.
You
know
the
police
department
and
procurement
department
with
chair
colas
and
commissioner
sagnani
and
jared
from
the
mayor's
office.
We
have
kind
of
briefly
talked
about
this,
but
I
would
maybe
invite
jared
to
speak
to
this.
Would
we
have
an
opportunity
to
provide
a
report
and
I
guess
to
be
transparent?
F
Q
Sure,
thank
you
vice
versa.
You
make
so
I
will
say.
As
far
as
the
doj
investigation,
I
think
most
of
what
the
department
of
justice
will
be
looking
for
will
be
real.
Everything
should
be
relatively.
I
would
say,
I
don't
want
to
say
surface
level,
but
relatively
straightforward.
Q
I
don't
think
there
will
be
an
analytics
part
that
will
be
that
they
will
need
the
commission
to
do
so,
while
the
city
speaking
for
the
mayor's
office,
while
the
mayor's
office
certainly
appreciates
the
offer,
I
don't
think
that
will
be
necessary.
Q
However,
I
think
that's
maybe
a
point
of
further
conversation
as
to
where
the
mccr
might
kind
of
overlap
with
the
things
that
are
being
looked
at
by
the
doj
from
from
kind
of
a
macro
perspective.
As
far
as
just
the
city
itself,.
K
I
I
did
want
to
remind
our
commissioners
and
gener
general
and
commissioner
ferrar
in
particular,
that
we
did
develop
a
report
with
respect
to
policing,
based
on
approximately
17
different
community
interactions,
including
a
number
of
forums
and
based
on
all
of
those
interactions
throughout
the
community.
K
We
developed
a
set
of
recommendations
and
things
that
we
thought
the
police
department
should
consider
in
terms
of
actions
and
changes,
and
so
you
know,
one
possibility
is
certainly
to
repurpose
that
report,
or
you
know,
share
that
report
with
the
doj
to
provide
a
perspective,
I
mean
we
had
some
very
specific
suggestions
of
things.
The
department
should
consider
and
it
was
based
on
a
lot
of
you
know,
input
and
work.
O
Commissioner,
if
I
have
a
second
one
of
the
things
that
we
may
be
able
to
look
at
here
is,
is
our
commission
has
a
diverse
set
of
connections
outside
the
commission,
and
I
think
we
should
examine
what
relationships
we
do
have
if
that
that
would
offer
us
to
potentially
inquire
above
and
beyond
what
our
role
might
might
possibly
be.
So
I
I
think
that
you
know
post
meeting.
O
You
know,
I
think
each
of
us
should
look
to
our
own
links
and
our
own
connections
see
if
there's
other
other
ways
to
address
this,
but
you
know,
I
think
that
we
should.
We
need
to
you
know,
figure
out
what
our
brief
is
with
respect
to
you
know
whether
or
not
the
city
council
wants
us
to
engage
with
that
or
the
you
know
again,
as
the
mayor's
office
has
spoken,
probably
not
so,
but
I
think
that
there's
an
opportunity
to
you
know
see
what
we
have
extra
extra
city
to
see.
C
I
see
your
hand
the
commissioner
ferrara,
but
I
did
we
have
another
question
from
commissioner
rance.
If
you
wanted
to
comment
on
mark
and
then
we'll
have
commissioner
rands
ask
a
question.
P
Well,
the
point
that
I
was
going
to
make
with
respect
to
mr
jeffries
and
what
the
mayor's
office
may
want.
As
I
understand
our
role,
our
role
is
to
provide
leadership
in
the
areas
of
civil
rights
and
that
that
may
not
necessarily
be
the
same
as
only
providing
advice
to
the
mayor's
office
when
the
mayor's
office
requests
it.
I
think
those
may
be
two
different
things,
and
I
also
think
that,
in
terms
of
interaction
with
the
doj
inquiry,
we
have
come
up
with
a
report
in
the
past
about
things
we
have
recommended.
P
P
J
Have
them
explain
what
this
process
is
for
this
potential
consent
decree,
and
then
we
can
explore
what
information
or
provide
information
to
them
to
be
able
to
help
them
better
assess
what's
going
on,
so
let's
invite
them
to
the
meeting.
Let
them
know
what
we
have
and
we're
willing
to
share
with
them
and
provide
it
to.
C
F
Does
anyone
have
an
in.
C
O
P
And
while
we're
discussing
this,
I
will
just
say
that
the
whole
point
of
my
bringing
this
up
tonight
was
entirely
to
have
somebody,
like
commissioner
rance,
put
forward
a
motion
that
we
have
some
direct
channel
with
the
doj
investigation.
So
I
am
very
happy
to
support
that,
and
that
is
the
whole
of
the
reason
why
I
brought
this
material
up
tonight.
So
thank
you,
commissioner.
P
C
Seeing
no
further
discussion
can
we
have
the
clerk
call
the
role
on
the
emotion
please.
D
Okay,
okay,
commissioner
colas;
yes,
schumac,
yes,
nick,
I'm
sorry,
crowder.
O
D
J
R
P
D
P
C
Thank
you
that
motion
has
passed
and
we
will
do
some
digging
and
invite
the
u.s
justice
department
to
our
june
meeting
and
then
explain
the
process
that
we've
discussed
and
oh
yeah.
C
Thank
you.
Diana
is
that
possible.
C
Commissioner
whitseth
did
was
unmuting
and
wasn't
able
to
vote
yes,
but
he
would
like
to
vote
yet.
Yes,.
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you
if
there's
no
other
further,
if
there's
no
further
discussion
for
a
commissioner
for
our
report,
I
will
direct
the
clerk
to
file
and
receive
the
report.
C
Then
item
six
on
our
agenda
is
the
public
comments.
So
the
next
word
of
business
is
the
acceptance
of
public
comments.
I
will
open
the
floor
and
invite
comments
from
the
community.
Each
speaker
will
be
allowed
two
minutes
so
with
that.
Are
there
any
community
members
on
the
line
who
would
wish
to
address
the.
C
I
This
is
commissioner,
gold,
hello.
We
unfortunately
had
our
last
commission
meeting
rescheduled
due
to
a
scheduling
conflict
on
this.
I
think
the
city's
end,
but
we're
not
mad
at
them,
so
we're
gonna
be
meeting
next
week,
but
I
wanted
to,
I
don't
know,
make
a
motion-
and
this
is
the
motion
is
about.
We
want
to
commissioner
from
the
subcommittee
cindy
devenish.
I
She
had
this
great
idea
to
give
out
an
award
for
community
members
who
have
gone
above
and
beyond
for
their
community
work
so,
for
example,
eliza
wesley
aka,
the
gatekeeper
down
at
george
floyd
memorial,
and
so
in
order
to
do
that,
we
would
need
it's
a
pass
for
the
or
the
commission.
We
need
to
vote
on
it.
I
We
would
need
to
pass
it,
and
so
my
motion,
if
cindy
devenish
commissioner
devin,
is
you
want
to
hop
on
and
explain
a
little
more
about
your
idea
before
we
do
a
motion
that
would
be
awesome.
B
Sure
so
it's
everything
that
you
said,
commissioner
gold,
is
that
I
think
a
lot
of
our
community
members
do
some
work
that
may
not
get
recognized
just
to
help
our
community
build.
I
think
eliza
is
a
great
example.
B
Who's
been
basically
donating
her
time,
she's
been
mentioned
on
by
the
star
tribune
care
11,
some
others
would
include
rakia
abdi,
who
does
work
at
the
city,
riverside
community,
there's
just
some
great
community
members
who
go
above
and
beyond,
and
don't
re
ask
for
any
compensation,
but
just
to
recognize
them
for
their
hard
work
and
dedication
for
things
that
they
don't
have
to
do,
but
they
choose
to
do
so.
I
was
just
thinking
about
a
simple
certificate
which
I
provided
to,
commissioner
golda
just
says.
Thank
you.
B
You
know
we
appreciate
you
and
you
are.
You
are
a
great
example
of
what
a
community
member
should
be
of
of
action.
If
you
want
to
see
change,
this
is
action
and
movement,
so
I
I
just
appreciate
all
their
hard
work,
and
so
I
just
want
to
recognize
them.
E
Hey
this,
this
is
commissioner
crowder
just
to
follow
up
on
that
point
in
part,
because
commissioner
devin
has
sent
me
an
email
that
I
never
responded
to
about
the
budget.
E
So
that's
beyond
our
reach,
but
we
do
have
3
000
bucks
and
right
now
it's
issues
like
this
and
then
the
the
letter
writing
campaign.
So
it
might
be
fun
to
include
a
25
amazon
gift
card
or
something
like
that
I'll
just
throw
it
out
there,
but
I
I
do
think
we
should
start
using
the
money.
We've
got,
or
at
least
earmarking
it
for
certain
things.
B
B
I
Thank
you,
commissioner
devanesh.
Oh
commissioner,
staniani.
O
Well,
thank
you
who
approves
their
budget.
Kayla
is
probably
a
direction.
A
question
directed
to
kayla
because
I
mean
you
know
is
it
is
it?
Is
it
untoward
for
us
to
go
back
and
ask
for
more
money
for
special
purpose
items?
Simply
because
there
is
a
you
know,
three
thousand
dollars?
O
Yes,
that's
we
can
that's
enough
money
to
do
something,
but
you
know
I
think,
when
we
get
to
special
purpose
projects,
I
think
that
we
should
be
able
to
go
back
and
you
know
at
least
ask
for
funds
for
for
things
that
are
important.
So,
yes,.
A
So
the
the
thing
is,
the
commission's
budget
is
a
part
of
the
larger
civil
rights
department
budget.
So
it
needs
to
be
balanced
and
is
you
know
taken
out
of
the
money?
That's
for
the
entire
department,
so
we'd
be
willing
to
reevaluate
as
needed.
But
because
you
know
the
commission
is
not
necessarily
a
designated
line
item
we
obviously
would
need
to.
You
know,
take
other
needs
of
the
department
into
into
our
thoughts
as
well,
but
it's
certainly
something
that
we
could
have
further
conversation
about.
If
there
was
a
specific
need
or
project.
B
And
I
saw
a
commissioner
ferrara's
question:
will
the
commission
take
a
vote
on
proving
individuals?
I
was
hoping
that
as
a
subcommittee,
we
could
nominate
individuals
within
the
subcommittee,
but
I'm
open
to
ideas
just
to
save
people,
time
and
energy,
because
that
might
be
taken
away
from
the
commission's
time.
So
I
think
it'd
be
more
appropriate
if
the
subcommittee
community
engagement
took
that
on,
but
I'm
open
to
ideas.
B
B
G
Yes,
chair
coalesce,
chair
sub.
G
Yes,
if
you're
going
to
issue
a
certificate
that
has
the
commission's
name
on
it
to
a
specific
individual,
the
list
of
individuals
should
come
back
for
the
commission's
approval.
It.
How
you
get
it
here,
for
the
commission's
approval
is
entirely
up
to
you,
whether
they
you
wanted
to
discuss
names
in
executive
committee
or
in
one
of
the
subcommittees.
That
would
be
fine,
but
the
whole
commission
should
vote
on
the
names.
C
Thank
you,
and
so
do
we
have
a
second
to
the
motion
that
commissioner
photos
brought
upon
us.
I
would
like
to
second
it
thank
you.
So
we
have
a
proper
emotion
before
us.
If
there's
no
other
discussion
we'll
have
the
clerk
call
the
role.
B
That's
basically
it
and
then
once
we
come
up
with
the
list
in
the
subcommittee,
we
bring
it
back
to
the
commission
for
approval
and
I'm
not
sure
on
you
know.
If
we
would
just
you
know,
provide
the
whole
list
and
then,
if
all
the
names
would
get
approved
or
would
we
need
to,
you
know,
go
through
each
individual.
So
that's
something
that
we'll
have
to
discuss.
M
L
H
M
B
Saying
come
up
with
the
list
and
bring
it
to
the
committee
commission
next
time
we
meet.
C
So,
yes,
absolutely,
I
think
that
the
project
is.
It
sounds
like
there's
overall,
pretty
good
feedback
regarding
that,
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
being
able
to
see
the
nominations
and
how
we're
able
to
celebrate
those
individuals.
I
Going
to
run
down
the
the
update
for
the
community
engagement
committee,
so
commissioner
harkman
has
reached
out
to
just
deeds
founders,
so
we're
gonna.
Have
two
speakers
come
talk
to
us
regarding
housing
next
tuesday,
which
also
brings
me
to
there's
an
anniversary
of
the
murder
of
george
floyd,
the
remembrance
on
tuesday,
the
25th
at
george
floyd
square.
I
So
I
just
wanted
to
invite
any
of
the
commissioners
to
come
to
that
I'll,
be
there
like
making
food
handing
out
food,
so
you
can
just
email
me
and
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
know
about
that
volunteer
opportunity,
then
we're
also
working
on
juneteenth
with
a
community
member
commissioner
devenish's
contact
we're
working
with
vice
chair
shoemaker
on
the
crown
act.
We
also
have
a.
I
If
you
see
something
say
something:
do
something
stop
discrimination
brought
on
by
once
again
guess
who
commissioner
devenish
and
we
are
also
working
on
educating
the
public
on
ending
qualified
immunity.
I'm
really
passionate
about
that,
and
so
looking
forward
to
educating
more
folks
and
getting
the
word
out
and
then
also.
The
last
thing
I
want
to
say
is
like
to
all
my
fellow
commissioners
in
this
body.
You
guys
ghosted
me:
I
have
received
received
zero
of
your
photos
and
bios
to
put
online
it's
cool.
I
I
get
it,
but
that
be
said
we
said,
may
17th
by
may
17th.
So
I
guess
I
just
yeah,
I'm
not
going
to
get
them.
Am
I
I.
H
I
Get
them
to
me,
that's
cool,
I
can
put
it
up
on
facebook
and
then
what
else
was
I
gonna
say
yeah
and
we're
also
we're
gonna
be
going
to
juneteenth.
You
know
some
of
the
commissioners
on
the
subcommittee
so
we're
going
to
try
to
really
get
out
in
the
field,
and
so,
if
you're
interested
in
joining
us
meeting
in
person
safe
distance,
whatever
you
just
can
email
one
of
us
directly
and
we
can
let
you
know
about
future
events,
and
that
is
my
update.
Thanks.
C
Thank
you.
It
looks
like
we
have
a
few
hands
up,
commissioner
or
andrea
nafe
deuce
of
random.
G
I
do
if
I
may,
for
just
a
moment
chairmae.
I
had
actually
asked
to
go
on
the
agenda
this
month,
just
to
comment
on
commissioner
gold's
request
for
pictures
and
in
our
bio
information,
and
I
was
too
late,
so
I
got
told
to
wait
until
next
month.
If,
but
with
your
permission,
I
would
just
jump
in
for
a
real
quick
moment
here
regarding
the
pictures
and
the
requests
for
bio
information.
G
I
think
it's
a
great
idea
from
a
public
relations
perspective,
but
I
do
have
to
give
you
like
a
little
data
practices
advisory
just
first
to
pursuant
to
state
law,
and
basically
it's
what
I'm
telling
you
is.
You
don't
have
to
put
up
your
picture
and
you
don't
have
to
provide
any
bio
information.
It's
purely
voluntary.
G
Your
position
on
the
commission
doesn't
depend
on
it.
You
won't
lose
out
on
any
opportunities
or
anything
like
that.
So
because
it's
a
picture
and
personal
information-
and
we
just
want
to
be
very,
very
clear
on
the
record
that
this
is
completely
voluntary
on
each
commissioner's
part,
and
that's
all
I
had
to
say
thanks
for
your.
C
R
E
Yeah
so
one
one
side
issue,
we
talked
about
last
meeting
related
to
the
aclu
that
seems
relevant
to
what
we're
talking
about
now
with
the
community
engagement
stuff.
I
emailed
julia
decker,
the
policy
director
at
the
aclu
and
she
wants
to
come
talk
to
us
about
qualified
immunity
as
a
part
of
our
qualified
immunity
programming,
and
so
we
just
need
to
get
her
a
date
lined
up
and
figure
out
others
that
we
may
want
to
invite
as
well,
but
she's
in.
E
So
I
just
want
to
let
senor,
signoni
and
others
know
that
she's
lined
up
and
ready
to
take
next
steps
as
soon
as
we
get
a
date.
C
Thank
you,
that's
awesome.
So
next
for
updates,
we
have
the
standards
and
procedures
subcommittee.
E
This
is
commissioner
crowder.
I
don't
know
if
commissioner
fine
is
still
on
the
line,
but
he
sent
a
note.
That
said,
he
had
to
drop
off
for
a
minute
and
we
haven't
actually
met
since
we're
gonna
meet
on
a
as
requested
basis,
and
we
had
initially
thought
about
trying
to
amend
the
procedures
to
allow
for
the
waiver
of
the
fees.
But
then,
after
kayla
said,
we
couldn't
do
that.
We
abandoned
the
meeting,
so
we.
C
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Crowder
the
workforce
and
contract
compliance
subcommittee.
We
have
commissioned
commissioner,
grant.
M
Yes,
so,
unfortunately,
we
were
not
able
to
meet
either.
I
too
got
ghosted
by
everyone,
except
commissioner
farrar.
I
I
wonder
if
there
is
an
issue
with
the
reporting
of
the
meeting
time
or
if
people
forgot
but
I'll
try
to
provide
a
reminder
for
the
next
meeting.
Our
next
meeting
actually
is
going
to
be
pretty
exciting
and,
commissioner
claus,
I
hope
you
can
join
too.
We
have
two
speakers
lined
up
from
the
city
who
are
going
to
discuss.
M
Let
me
pull
up
my
notes.
We
have
rick
parriso
from
the
target
market
program
and
vendor
manager,
as
well
as
brian
I'm
going
to
not
get
this
name
right.
I
apologize
sahachik,
who
is
a
buyer
for
the
city
and
they're,
going
to
do
do
what
we
had
requested
as
a
subcommittee
they're,
going
to
walk
us
through
what
the
bidding
process
is
like
for
city
contracts
and
how
each
of
the
steps
are
involved
with
different
aspects
related
to
civil
rights.
There
are
a
few
different
things
that
that'll
likely
come
up.
M
There's
a
there's,
an
affirmative
action
plan
that
each
vendor
has
to
supply
and
there
are
some
other
requirements,
and
so
this
should
mostly
target
small
smaller
to
medium-sized
businesses,
because
there's
separate
procedures
for
under
for
suppliers
who
are
supplying
something
under
150
000
and
suppliers
who
are
providing
services
over
that.
So
we
may
get
into
that
a
little
bit
too
and
then
so
that
that
should
be
really
exciting.
And
then
we
also
have
someone
from
the
city
contract
compliance
department
who
has
agreed
to
meet
with
us.
M
Aiden
dunn
will
be
hopefully
joining
us
at
our
next
subcommittee
meeting
to
give
us
an
update,
specifically
about
partial
answers
to
four
of
my
questions,
which
included
how
city
contracts
are
communicated
to
women
in
minority
owned
businesses,
any
known
issues
throughout
the
process
that
cause
bidders
to
drop
out
or
not
win
contracts,
specifically
where
we
could
help
provide
education.
M
Three,
whether
a
list
of
women
and
minority-owned
businesses
exists
and
four
what
definitions
are
used
for,
monitoring
compliance
related
to
women
and
minority-owned
businesses.
So,
hopefully,
we'll
have
a
very
busy
and
exciting
next
subcommittee
meeting
and
hopefully
chair
or
vice
chair
rants,
can
take
over
his
chair
or
we
can.
We
can
figure
out
what
what
further
steps
need
to
be
done
there,
but
yeah
it
should
be.
It
should
be
a
good
meeting,
that's
set
for
june
3rd
and
at
6
00
pm.
M
I
believe-
and
I
probably
will
not
be
able
to
attend
that
subcommittee
meeting.
So
I
very
much
hope
that
commissioner
rants
can
attend.
I
I
can
call
in,
but
I
I'm
I'm
going
to
be
traveling
that
day
so
anyway,
that's
the
update
from
from
for
workforce
contract.
C
Compliance.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Copia.
That
sounds
really
interesting.
I'm
very
excited
to
be
able
to.
I
should
have
that
on
my
calendar
already,
but
that's
a
bummer
that
you
won't
be
able
to
make
it.
So
we
have
the
next
update
from
our.
H
F
Thank
you,
chair
colas,
so
I
don't
have
too
big
of
an
update.
We
have
gotten
through.
Let's
see
I'm,
I
know
that
one
of
the
main
cases
has
been
completed
fully
because
I
was
on
it.
We
have
two
other
may
cases
that
I
think
are
in
the
works.
Ashley
gold
have,
commissioner
gold.
Have
you
all
set
a
time
for
your
panel.
F
F
I
F
Okay,
just
good
to
know
that
y'all
are
working
on
that
wonderful,
so
yeah!
We
are
we're
on
track
with
with
our
panels.
I
have
a
contact
in
the
in
the
department
now
that
I'm
working
with
to
to
plan
out
the
contested
case
hearings.
L
Yeah
I'm
going
to
ask
a
general
question,
then
someone
can
tell
me
if
I
can
be
more
specific,
I'm
I'm
on
one
of
the
upcoming
panels
and
was
getting
ready
to
sign
one
of
the
documents
for
any
conflict
of
interest.
Can
I
say
in
general
what
it
so
I
I
emailed
matthew
twice
to
ask
if
this
was
a
conflict
of
interest,
it's
I
think
it's
general
enough
has
to
do
with
the
minneapolis.
Can
I
publish
tonight,
oh.
A
Yep
I'll
stop,
I'm
just
gonna
jump
in
there's
no
need
to
go
into
any
of
the
details.
So
I've
been
working
with
matthew
to
get
an
answer
to
that
question,
so
we
should
be
able
to
answer.
H
F
Oh
no
problem,
commissioner,
if,
if
there
is
a
conflict,
I
should
be
able
to
swap
you
out
with
someone
else
and
yeah
so
we'll
be
on
we'll
be
on
top
of
that
this
week
to
make
sure
that
everything
is
is
organized
for
june.
C
Sorry
I
was
trying
to
put
down
paul
or
commissioner
herkman.
If
you
want
to
put
down
your
hand,
sorry,
I
was
get
a
little
distracted,
so
yeah
as
I
updated
the
commission
earlier
this
evening,
commissioner
stevens
is
no
longer
with
us.
We
do
have
other
updates
from
kayla
with
the
department.
C
I
wasn't
sure
if
we
had
additional
information,
but
frank
reed
is
no
longer
with
the
department
as
well,
and
so
there's
some
transitions
in
that,
but
we
do
have
some
new
connections
being
made
with
staff
at
the
department
who
I
believe
one
of
them
is
with
us
this
evening,
andrew
we'll
be
working
more
closely
and
as
we
start
to
situate
and
figure
out
what
that
role
looks
like
you
know,
more
more
will
be
to
come
and
then
as
well.
C
You
know
I
had
a
comment
in
here
about
the
policing,
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
in
the
policing,
and
so
I
was
glad
that
it
was
brought
up
tonight
of
how
we
could
really
connect
some
of
the
stuff.
That's
happened
in
the
previous
task
forces
and
really
build
on
the
work
that
we've
done.
Moving
that
we're
planning
on
doing
with
a
lot
of
this
data
and
some
of
the
things
that
were
brought
up
by
commissioner
ferrar
tonight
and
so
just
wanted
to
make
a
note
of
that.
C
But
I
was
glad
that
some
of
those
things
were
brought
up
and
I'm
really
excited
for
all
the
work
that's
happening
and
looking
forward
to
continuing
to
work
together.
I
know
kayla
had
some
updates.
That
seemed
like
some
more
work
that
we'll
be
able
to
do
as
a
commission
and
bring
some
attention
to
the
work
of
the
department
so
I'll.
A
Great
thanks
very
much
yeah,
so
you've
kind
of
started
some
of
the
the
department
updates
that
I
was
going
to
provide.
So,
yes,
sadly,
frank,
has
taken
another
position
and
is
no
longer
with
the
department.
A
A
So
that's
the
new
head
of
the
department
as
chair
may
had
just
explained.
Additionally,
the
civil
rights
department
chief
of
staff,
andrew
hawkins,
is
going
to
be
more
involved
in
commission
work,
moving
forward
and
be
an
additional
resource
to
the
commission
in
the
work
that
they're
doing
so
he's
on
the
line
with
us
tonight
and
will
be
kind
of
moving
forward,
which
we
really
appreciate
his
participation
and
look
forward
to
that
kind
of.
A
On
that
same
note,
so
we
were
actually
having
some
conversations
kind
of
leading
up
to
this
meeting
and
just
about
the
department's
work
with
the
commission
in
general,
and
he
brought
up.
I
think
a
great
idea
that
I
wanted
to
present
to
the
commission
just
to
start
considering,
and
we
can
kind
of
figure
out
the
details
moving
forward
if
this
is
something
that
the
commission
would
like
to
do,
but
one
of
the
things
that
the
complaint
investigations
division
has
noticed
specifically,
is
that
our
numbers
have
been
down
during
covet.
A
Just
our
intake
numbers
we're
just
not
getting
quite
as
many
cases
coming
through.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
reasons
for
that
right.
That
was
a
pandemic
is
a
pandemic.
People
are
focused
on.
You
know
more
immediate
needs
that
they
might
be
needing
to
to
handle.
You
know
people
haven't
been
able
to
walk
into
the
office
things
like
that,
but
we
know,
unfortunately,
that
discrimination
is
continuing
to
to
occur
and
we
certainly
want
to
be
a
resource
to
as
many
residents
in
the
city
as
possible.
A
So
that
being
said,
we
thought
it
might
be
a
a
positive
kind
of
place
where
we
could
partner
with
the
commission,
as
you
all
are
out
in
the
community,
with
all
of
your
connections,
to
just
try
to
get
the
word
out
more
about
what
the
department
and
specifically
the
complaint
investigations
division,
can
do
and
can
offer
as
a
service
to
the
citizens
of
minneapolis.
A
So
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
on
the
table
as
something
that
the
department
would
love
to
partner
with
the
commission
on,
so
we
can
certainly
have
further
discussion
of
what
that
would
look
like
one
of
the
first
things
I
thought
of.
I
remember.
I
think
it
was
probably
close
to
two
years
ago
now.
I
did
an
intake
training
with
members
of
the
research
and
engagement
committee
at
the
time,
and
I
thought
that
was
productive
and
positive.
A
So
we
could,
potentially
you
know,
revive
something
like
that,
so
that
commissioners
have
the
tools
to
to
help
community
members
understand
what's
available,
and
you
know
what
fits
with
the
the
work
that
our
office
does,
but
other
than
that
you
know,
as
usual,
happy
to
continue
partnering
with
the
commission,
we're
still
working
on
cases
and
investigations,
as
always
a
major
focus
on
our
adr
and
mediation
processes.
A
So
that's
continuing
to
move
along
and
trying
to
you
know,
keep
things
moving
even
with
you
know
some
staffs
or
shortages,
and
things
like
that.
But
we're
happy
to
be
here
and
happy
to
continue
to
continue
working
together.
C
A
Yeah
absolutely
so
we
do
definitely
have
materials,
so
what
I'll
do
is
kind
of
go.
This
is
a
new
kind
of
a
new
idea,
so
I
haven't
gone
in
and
dug
through
kind
of
what
we
have
and
if
anything
needs
to
be
updated.
But
yes,
we
absolutely
do
have
materials,
and
we
can
definitely
share
that
with
commissioners.
Great.
C
Thank
you,
okay.
Well,
thank
you,
commissioners
and
staff
for
those
updates
with
that
we've
concluded
all
items
on
our
agenda
for
this
meeting.
B
I'm
sorry
this
is
commissioner
devinish.
For
some
reason
there
wasn't
an
opportunity
to
provide
an
update
on
the
african
american
preservation
act
in
our
letter
supporting
it.
So
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
quick
update.
Is
that
okay,
please
absolutely.
H
B
We
want
to
address
the
fact
that
the
african
american
preservation
act
is
a
long-standing
to
address
inequalities
within
the
child
protection
and
foster
care,
and
so
we're
doing
well
with
the
letter,
I
recently
sent
it
to
miss
houston
for
approval
and
she
agreed
with
it
and
also
we
reviewed
some
documentation
from
hennepin
county
which
also
backed
up
this
preservation
act
and
putting
forth
money
to
support
the
the
changes
as
well.
B
So
we
just
want
to
provide
a
quick
update
and
commissioner
rance
commissioner
hertz,
do
you
have
anything
you
would
like
to
add
about
our.
J
Meeting
I
found
it
to
be
very
productive
and
a
very
necessary
document.
I'm
glad
that
the
commission
is
moving
forward
with
with
the
letter.
B
Absolutely
and
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
provide,
bring
it
to
the
commission
next
time
we
meet
thank.
K
Oh
I
I
did.
I
had
a
question
for
commissioner
devinish.
I
I
I
wasn't
sure
who
you
were
you
were
referring
to
the
individual.
You
said
you
sent
to
for
approval.
Was
that
the
champion
of
this
legislation
who
presented
at
our
last
meeting.
B
Yes,
I
sent
it
to
miss
kellis,
khalis,
houston
from
village
arms
and
also
katie
wallace
had
a
big
county
public
policy
manager.
I've
not
heard
back
from
miss
wallace
yet
well.
Actually,
she
and
I
talked
a
little
bit
today.
She
said
because
of
her
busy
schedule.
She
has
not
had
a
chance
to
review
it,
but
hopefully
she'll
be
able
to
get
review
it
tomorrow
and
get
back
to
me
tomorrow.
So
I'm
just
looking
to
those
who
help
you
know,
promote
it
and
put
it
together.
B
K
Yeah,
I
I
don't
have
a
an
issue
with
that,
just
to
be
clear
at
all
with
us
connecting
with
allies
on
things
like
this.
I
I
guess
just
as
kind
of
like
a
point
of
fact,
though,
I'd
like
to
just
make
the
point
that
we
don't
really
require
the
approval
of
other
folks
and
we're
an
independent
group
that
can
put
out
our
own
point
of
views.
But
with
that
said,
I
I
certainly
don't
object
to
connecting
with
allies
and
getting
their
input.
But.
C
Thank
you,
commissioner,
saying
nothing
else.
We've
concluded
oh
and
I
did
want
to
make
actually
a
point
to
cindy
to
commissioner
lorde's
comment.
Commissioner
devenish,
you
said
you
were
going
to
be
so
you
sent
the
letter
to
miss
houston.
That's
the
she's
she's,
the
one
that
gave
the
presentation
last
week
or
last
month.
B
Correct
that
is
correct
and
the
reason
I'm
just
gonna
put
it
out
there.
The
reason
why
I
asked,
for
you
know
a
review
of
the
letter
is
because
apparently
there
might
be
some
pushback
from
the
city's
office
and
in
anticipation
of
that
pushback
I
just
wanted
some
support,
even
though
this
is
an
independent
body,
it
came
to
my
knowledge
that
so
someone
within
the
city
might
be
trying
to
push
back
on
something
that
passed
with
20
votes
of
so
28.
B
C
Absolutely
I
think
it
20
votes
definitely
is
telling
right,
commissioner
demonish
well,
thank
you
for
that
update.
So
with
that,
we've
concluded
all
items
on
our
agenda
for
this
meeting
I'll,
say
everyone
back
here
next
month
for
the
june
21st
2021
regular
meeting
and
seeing
no
further
business
to
come
before
us
and
without
objects
objection.
I
will
declare
this
meeting
adjourned.