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B
Okay,
hello,
everyone
and
welcome
to
tonight's
community
environmental
advisory
commission
meeting
these
meetings
are
public
and
are
subject
to
the
state's
open
meeting
law.
Recording
will
be
start
start
momentarily.
We
record
the
meetings
to
further
transparency
in
government
and
to
support
folks
who
are
not
able
to
attend
today
to
hear
our
proceedings
under
the
state's
open
meeting
law.
All
votes
during
an
online
meeting
must
be
taken
by
roll
call.
C
A
So
good
evening,
thank
you
all
for
joining
tonight
for
this
community
environmental
advisory
commission
meeting.
My
name
is
erin
niehoff
and
I'm
the
chair
of
seac
and
I'll
be
facilitating
the
the
meeting
tonight
for
those
of
you
who
have
been
with
ciac
for
a
while.
Thank
you
for
bearing
with
my
absence
the
last
three
months.
I'm
excited
to
be
back.
A
So
I'd
also
like
to
start
by
noting
that
this
meeting
includes
the
remote
participation
of
members
as
authorized
under
minnesota
statutes,
section
13d
.021
due
to
the
declared
local
health
pandemic.
Please
keep
yourself
muted
at
all
times
that
you
are
not
speaking
to
keep
the
meeting
moving
along
and
on
schedule.
Please
wait
your
turn
to
speak
and
hold
questions
until
the
end
of
each
speaker's
presentation.
A
F
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B
A
So
should
we
I'm
just
curious,
I
know
that
we
have
a
bunch
of
different
speakers
on
today,
so
especially
since
we're
going
to
be
getting
to
those
presentations
sooner
rather
than
later.
If
you
don't
mind
holding
off
until
we
get
into
things,
it
would
be
great
to
have
your
introductions
at
the
beginning
of
your
presentation.
A
So
thank
you.
Everyone
for
joining
our
first
two
items
of
business
is
the
adoption
of
our
agenda
for
tonight's
meeting,
followed
by
the
acceptance
of
minutes
from
our
august
18th
meeting,
and
we
can
combine
these
two
items
if
we
receive
a
proper
motion,
so
anybody
have
anything
that
they'd
want
to
see
changed
on
either
the
minutes
from
august
or
the
agenda
for
tonight.
A
F
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A
Okay,
so
as
we
get
started
here,
we
typically
start
our
meetings
with
a
land
acknowledgement
statement,
so
I'm
gonna
get
going
with
that
as
we
meet
here
today,
we
are
reminded
that
minneapolis
is
situated
on
the
homelands
of
the
dakota
people,
an
area
that
is
steeped
in
rich
indigenous
history.
It
is
home
to
indigenous
people
from
more
than
30
different
nations.
A
A
F
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
share
that.
The
minnesota
indian
women's
resource
center
is
organizing
a
boarding
school
victims
and
survivors
march
tomorrow
afternoon,
and
you
can
find
that
on
the
minnesota
indian
women's
resource
center
facebook
page
and
I
will
drop
the
link
in
the
chat
for
that
tomorrow.
At
one
o'clock.
A
I
know
that
this
has
broader
implications,
but
following
the
the
case
of
gabby
petito,
just
thinking
about
all
the
indigenous
women
who've
been
missing
and
haven't
had
necessarily
the
same
amount
of
attention
on
their
cases
as
as
gabby
has,
and
just
thinking
about
the
people
who
are
missing.
Who
are
indigenous
or
people
of
color,
who
haven't
necessarily
gotten
the
same
amount
of
media
coverage.
A
B
Okay,
we
do
have
it
the
slide
presentation
you
sent
over
tdep
that
we
could
go
or
if
you
wanted
to.
I
believe
you
are.
You
have
access
to
share
your
own
screen.
If
you
want,
through
the
little
button
just
to
the
left
of
the
up
arrow
to
the
left
of
the
leave
button,
would
you
like
us
to
pull
up
your
presentation,
or
do
you
want
to
do
that.
B
H
All
right,
well,
hi,
everyone,
I'm
colleen,
o'connor
toberman,
with
friends
of
the
mississippi
river
and
I'll,
be
giving
the
first
of
sort
of
a
complimentary
pair
of
presentations
about
things
happening
on
the
mississippi
river
in
minneapolis,
particularly
related
to
the
locks
and
dams
friends
of
the
mississippi
river.
You
may
may
not
be
familiar
with
us.
H
So
when
we're
talking
about
locks
and
dams
that
are
in
minneapolis,
there
are
three
there's
upper
st
anthony
falls
here,
which
is
the
one
you
know
kind
of
under
the
stone
arch
bridge
that
most
of
us
think
of
go
ahead
and
show
the
next
one,
which
is
lower,
said
anthony
falls.
This
one
is
just
downstream
of
upper
said:
anthony
falls,
it's
a
little
bit
more
hidden
down
there
in
the
river,
but
that's
the
35w
bridge
in
the
background.
H
As
you
look
downstream,
and
then
we
have
lock
and
dam
number
one,
which
is
often
called
the
four
dam.
This
one
stretches
between
minneapolis
and
st
paul,
near
minnehaha
falls
and
hidden
falls
park
and
most
people
if
asked
what
they
think
these
locks
and
dams
do
in
the
twin
cities.
They
would
say:
flood
control
is
their
primary
purpose,
but
that's
actually
not
correct.
H
Locks
and
dams
have
minimal
flood
control
functions
for
the
most
part.
Most
of
them
were
actually
built
to
enhance
navigation,
to
make
it
possible
for
commercial
traffic
to
travel
up
and
down
rivers
and
navigate
over
waterfalls
or
other
drops
in
river
elevation
and
right
now,
these
three
locks
and
dams
in
the
twin
cities
are
being
considered
for
different
uses
because
they
no
longer
serve
commercial
navigation.
H
So
in
this
case,
that
purpose
is
navigation,
and
so
congress
is
actually
sorry.
The
army
corps
is
working
through
two
disposition
studies
right
now.
The
first
one
that's
underway
is
for
upper
saint
anthony
falls
and
our
other
team
will
talk
more
about
that
in
a
minute
and
then
the
one
that's
coming
up,
probably
starting
next
year,
will
be
for
lower
st
anthony
falls
and
lock
and
dam
number
one.
H
We'll
have
more
information
about
this
later,
but
I
did
want
to
mention
the
cutoff
wall,
because
this
piece
of
the
issue
was
recently
featured
in
a
really
in-depth
star
tribune
article,
and
so
people
might
have
seen
it
and
have
questions
about
it.
So
san
antonio
falls,
as
you
may
know,
is
held
up
by
a
concrete
apron.
H
The
actual
limestone
under
there
is
a
very
erodible
and
at
risk
of
crumbling
until
years
ago,
150
years
ago,
it
was
stabilized
with
a
concrete
apron,
underneath
that,
and
slightly
upstream
is
what's
called
a
cut-off
wall,
which
is
a
40-foot
high
wall.
That's
underground
made
of
solid,
concrete
meant
to
hold
back
the
falls
from
eroding
further
and
one
thing
that's
been
interesting
discovery
or
realization
in
in
the
process
of
considering
the
future
of
the
locks
and
dams.
H
H
They're,
you
know
the
most
suited
party,
but
in
the
meantime,
we
at
least
hope
to
see
study
of
the
ownership
issue
as
well
study
of
the
walls,
condition
and
make
sure
it's
being
maintained
and
inspected
regularly
and
later
you'll
hear
more
about
how
that
connects
to
some
of
the
other,
lock
and
damn
infrastructure,
but
wanted
to
cover
that
one.
Since
it's
been
in
the
news,
it
was
also
on
a
tpt
almanac.
Last
friday
we
have
jeff
here
from
the
minneapolis
convention
center
jeff.
I
Upper
st
anthony
falls
here
for
the
last
few
years
with
the
mayor's
office,
and
I
think,
similarly,
to
what
was
said.
We
also
believe
the
city
believes
that
the
corps
should
be
continue
to
be
engaged
in
this
area
and
engaged
in
the
cut-off
wall
just
because
of
all
of
the
regional
infrastructure
that
is
at
risk.
I
If
something
bad
were
to
happen,
and
we
actually
just
started
a
meeting
which
will
meet
about
every
six
months
with
all
of
the
different
entities
that
have
some
level
of
observation
or
inspection
at
this
area
so
excel
energy
mndot,
the
city
of
minneapolis,
our
public
works
group
and
many
others
are-
are
engaged
in
this
and
and
making
sure
that
we
understand
who's
watching
what
who's
who
understands
what
and
what
information
and
then
sharing
that
information
between
those
entities.
So
I
feel
like
we're
in
a
good
place.
H
Thanks
jeff:
let's
go
ahead
yeah
and
talk
about
these
disposition
studies
in
a
little
bit,
you'll
hear
more
about
the
current
study
underway
for
upper
saint
anthony
falls
and
why
it's
so
important
that
that
lock
and
dam
remain
in
the
river.
You
know
in
general.
A
lot
of
people
are
really
interested
in
damn
removal
and
we'll
be
talking
about
that
potential
for
these
two
downstream
locks
and
dams.
But
the
infrastructure
at
upper
st
anthony
falls
is
extremely
important.
H
It's
preventing
a
lot
of
erosion
that
would
endanger
our
water
supply,
intakes
endanger
major
infrastructure
like
bridges,
and
so
it
we're
kind
of
talking
about
these
two
different
studies
separately,
because
they
sort
of
have
two
different
tracks,
but
starting
this
coming
year,
the
army
corps
is
going
to
be
doing.
The
disposition.
H
I
think
I
just
covered
this,
so
potential
outcomes
are
really
on
a
range
go
ahead.
So
a
lot
of
people
are
really
intrigued
by
the
concept
of
dam
removal
and
I'll
be
clear
that
friends
of
the
mississippi
river
does
not
have
a
formal
position
on
whether
we
think
these
dams
should
come
out.
There's
a
lot
more
study
and
community
engagement
and
conversation.
H
That
needs
to
be
done,
but
it's
probably
true
that
removing
the
dams
would
have
some
significant
environmental
impacts,
and
so
american
rivers,
which
has
a
very
pro-removal
position
and
does
nationwide
work
on
on
river
health
and
dam
removal,
did
a
bit
of
work
to
figure
out
what
some
of
the
potential
benefits
could
be
if
the
dams
are
removed.
So
if
we
removed
both
lower
st
anthony
falls
and
the
four
dam,
we
would
reconnect
39
miles
of
river
to
more
natural
flow.
H
H
Some
pros
there,
some
cons,
you
know
some
sports
would
become
easier
or
more
appealing,
like
perhaps
you
know,
paddling
or
tubing
on
the
river,
maybe
more
fishing,
but
the
rowing
clubs
would
have
to
be
relocated,
and
so
that
would
be
a
significant
kind
of
loss.
I
think
for
that
part
of
the
river
go
ahead
and
move
on.
H
These
are
a
couple
of
renderings
that
were
done
to
give
you
a
sense
of
what
the
rivers
would
look
like
without
dams.
It's
really
hard
to
envision
the
mississippi
river
being
different
than
the
way
we
know
it
now,
but
historically
was
a
much
more
rapids
type
river,
so
shallower
faster
flowing
had
a
lot
of
rocks
limestone
things
like
that
that
have
now
been
removed
to
facilitate
commercial
navigation
and
so
restoring
that
would
make
the
river
look
pretty
drastically
different.
H
But,
like
I
said
it's
not
necessarily
all
great
or
all
difficult
news
when
it
comes
to
considering
the
future
these
lacks
and
dams.
There
are
a
lot
of
things
to
think
about,
so
one
is,
you
know,
cost
of
course
maintaining
the
existing
infrastructure
has
a
cost.
These
are
aging
pieces
of
concrete
in
a
river
rivers
erode
rivers
are
difficult
on
on
whatever
structures
are
trying
to
withstand
them,
so
there
is
a
cost
to
keeping
it,
but
removing.
It
would
also
be
a
significant
one-time
cost.
H
H
You
know,
how
does
it
relate
to
other
goals
for
the
river
for
the
environment,
for
the
cities,
you
know,
how
do
you
balance
equity
considerations
and
needs
elsewhere
in
the
city
or
in
other
other
parks
and
water
bodies?
So
it's
it's
a
big
question
and
this
is
where
friends
of
mississippi
river
really
hopes
that
there'll
be
a
lot
of
exploring
with
the
community
about
what
these
options
are
and-
and
you
know
what
just
weighing
those
pros
and
cons.
H
As
I
mentioned,
you
know
if
the
dams
were
to
be
removed,
the
flat
water
rowing,
that's
really
valued
by
the
university
of
minnesota
and
minneapolis
rowing
clubs
would
no
longer
be
possible
in
this
section
of
the
river
and
those
clubs
would
need
to
be
moved
either
upstream
of
upper
st
anthony
falls
so
into
north
and
northeast
minneapolis,
or
downstream
closer
to
downtown
saint
paul.
So
and
of
course,
you
know
they
would
need
financial
assistance
to
make
that
possible
for
them.
H
Both
of
these
dams
also
do
produce
some
hydropower,
and
so
that's
another
consideration.
It's
a
relatively
modest
amount.
I
think
that
there
are
probably
you
know
plenty
of
opportunities
to
replace
that
with
other
carbon
free
sources,
especially
in
the
coming
years.
But
it
is
another
calculation
that
we
have
to
consider.
It's
even
possible
that,
for
instance,
brookfield
energy,
which
currently
operates
the
hydropower
plants
at
the
dams,
would
be
interested
in
in
taking
ownership
over
the
lock
and
dam
in
order
to
maintain
their
ability
to
use
it
for
hydropower.
H
H
What
kind
of
alternatives
will
be
on
the
table
and
how
they're
going
to
examine
those
that
will
probably
come
in
early
2022,
but
we
don't
know
for
sure,
and
there
will
be
a
public
comment
period
as
part
of
that,
and
so
friends.
The
mississippi
river,
for
instance,
will
be
encouraging
the
core
to
take
a
really
close.
Look
at
the
pros
and
cons.
H
After
that,
it's
not
like
the
army
corps
can
usually
act
immediately
on
whatever
has
been
recommended,
you
know
oftentimes.
They
will
need
congressional
action
to
follow
through
on
the
recommendations
that
reports
that
might
include
authorization
to
do
something
like
sell
property.
It
might
include
funding,
that's
needed,
so.
H
But
it's
actually
really
really
important
when
it
comes
to
understanding
and
thinking
about
the
future
of
the
mississippi
river.
So
we
also
want
to
be
talking
to
folks.
We
want
to
be
facilitating
conversations
and
carrying
out
community
engagement
to
supplement
what
is
going
to
be
coming
from
the
federal
government.
H
If
you
know,
groups
that
want
to
talk
about
the
future
of
locks
and
dams
want
to
think
about
the
health
of
the
river,
we
would
love
to
talk
to
you.
We
would
love
to
do
presentations
or
hear
community
members
feedback,
especially
if
you
know
folks
who
might
be
affected
by
changes
to
the
river,
but
might
not
be
thinking
about
them
or
have
them
at
top
of
mind.
Please
don't
hesitate
to
reach
out.
This
will
be
a
multi-year
process
and
we
would
definitely
love
to
be
in
touch
with
folks.
H
My
contact
information
is
there
and
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
for
our
other
presentation,
but
we'll
do
some
joint
q
a
at
the
end.
So
if
you
have
questions,
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
information
in
a
short
amount
of
time
here
feel
free
to
put
them
in
the
chat
and
then,
if
they're
not
addressed
in
the
presentation,
we
can
read
them
out
loud
and
answer
them
at
the
end.
Thank
you.
J
J
I've
been
summoned
by
a
city
council
member
to
be
at
an
event
at
six
o'clock,
so
I'm
going
to
have
to
ditch
out
of
here,
probably
before
we're
finished,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
you
know
that
the
project
director
trustee
duvall,
who
has
been
with
a
friend
since
the
very
beginning,
is
here
and
amanda
wiggins
who's.
Our
director
of
communications
is
here
both
of
them
know
a
great
deal
about
this
project
and
maybe
before
I
turn
it
back
to
chursty
and
amanda.
J
I
can
just
say
just
a
couple
of
words
about
the
friends
and
about
our
great
respect
for
the
friends
of
the
mississippi
river.
We
sort
of
work
hand
in
glove
on
several
issues
and
fmr
is
the
premier
mississippi
river
advocacy
group
in
our
part
of
the
country,
and
so
we
are
really
privileged
to
be
able
to
work
with
them
in
common
cause.
J
J
He
was
an
executive
for
a
very
big
company
here
and
when
he
retired,
he
decided
to
commit
the
rest
of
his
working
and
serving
life
to
the
mississippi
river
and
he's
been
a
key
figure
in
the
development
of
the
central
riverfront,
along
with
his
co-founder
mark
wilson.
And
so
we
are.
We
are
here
as
a
result
of
the
large
jeffs
and
inspiration
that
they
have
felt
and
expressed
about
the
importance
of
the
central
riverfront
in
specific
and
the
mississippi
river
in
general.
J
But
in
recent
years
we
have
been
placing
a
great
deal
of
focus
on
a
storytelling
opportunity
here
for
the
indigenous
people
who
came
long
before
literally
since
the
glaciers
receded
some
12
000
years
ago,
and
as
everybody
here
on
this
call
knows,
the
dakota
are
the
indigenous
tribal
community.
There
are
four
dakota
tribes
in
the
state
of
minnesota,
about
seven
tribes
that
are
primarily
chippewa,
anishinabe,
related
tribes
and,
and
we
are
all
working
to
a
certain
extent
to
recapture
the
history
of
this
area.
J
G
G
G
G
Additionally,
a
lot
of
local
stakeholders
have
really
risen
up
as
interested
parties
and
and
we
early
on
built
a
coalition
of
organizations
that
we
could
work
with,
because
we
knew
that
for
this
site
in
particular,
you
know
a
huge
piece
of
this
would
be
legislative
work.
We
needed
to.
You
know:
secure
acts
of
congress
to
move
this
forward
and
so
working
with
the
city
working
with
neighborhood
groups
working
with
enacti,
who
is
our
core
partner,
the
native
american
community
development
institute
to
really
advocate
and
move
forward
as
a
community.
G
Some
of
what
we
wanted
to
secure
for
a
public
interest
outcome
on
the
site
and
then
the
next
next
slide.
So
we
we
did
secure
two
acts
of
congress
so
far.
Maybe
there
will
be
more,
but
in
2018
in
the
water
resources
and
development
act,
congress
directed
the
army
corps
to
cleave
the
upper
lock
off
of
the
disposition
study
that
was
going
to
be
for
all
three
locks.
You
heard
about
the
other
two
from
colleen:
they
cleaved
it
off
and
said.
G
So
the
city
of
minneapolis
had
to
step
up
and
really
consider
that
and
participate
in
that
process,
we're
still
working
with
the
city,
I'm
speaking
to
you
now
to
move
the
process
forward,
as
well
as
with
the
park
board,
and
we
also
secured
language
identifying
that
there
really
would
be
a
public
interest
outcome
on
this
site.
All
of
us
who
are
participating
in
this
locally
agree
that
the
core
should
retain
ownership
and
management
of
the
lock.
G
You
know,
none
of
us
are
lock
masters
and
there
is
a
huge
regional
significance
and
importance
to
the
site
might
be
the
next
slide.
Yeah,
maybe
first
this.
So
this
the
pat
that
last
image-
I
don't
know
if
any
of
you
guys
have
been
down
to
the
lock.
But
this
is
the
parking
lot.
There's
a
fence
there
between
what
is
still
kind
of
the
core
of
engineers
parking
and
then
what
is
leased
to
the
park
board
as
parking
on
the
inside
of
that
stone,
arch
bridge.
G
G
G
The
the
invasive
species
that
these
invasive
species
that
were
the
reason
for
halting
commercial
navigation
could
move
upstream
into
the
great
lakes.
There
could
be.
You
know,
issues
related
to
excel
and
the
power
generation
that's
happening
there.
There
could
be
flooding
issues,
so
the
the
core
on
occasion
has
to
release
flood
water,
and
so
we
don't
want
them
to
go
away
and
have
something
terrible
occur.
G
You
know
without
their
their
watch,
so
it's
important
that
that
they
remain
and
what
we
and
the
city
and
the
national
parks,
conservation,
association
and
fmr.
You
know
and
others
have
observed,
as
we
really
need
the
army
corps
to
stay
and
continue
to
be
the
steward
of
the
site.
They
really
need
to
be
the
ones
and
if
we
can
move
forward
again
yeah,
so
the
public
comments
from
the
upper
lac
disposition
study
overwhelmingly
opposed
full
disposition.
G
Nobody
wants
the
corps
to
just
abandon
the
property
that
is
still
in
draft
form.
So,
although
the
public
comment
period
has
ended,
they're
still
working
on
it,
they're
doing
some
of
the
nepa
required
studies,
including
a
106
process,
and
we're
expecting
the
release
of
the
final
study
and
recommendations
in
early
2022
and
next.
G
G
A
There
were
a
few
questions
that
came
in
through
the
chat,
and
I
saw
that
colleen
started
to
answer
at
least
one
of
them,
so
just
to
start
with
the
one
that
I'm
seeing
first
here.
What
would
this
mean
for
asian
carp?
I
know
the
locks
were
closed
to
prevent
the
spread
of
carp
up
the
mississippi
river.
So
I'm
wondering
whether
that's
still
a
consideration.
H
Yeah,
I
can
take
that
one
and
answer
more
thoroughly,
so
I
did
put
a
link
in
the
chat
to
some
articles
for
those
who
can
see
the
chat.
If
you
go
to
fmr.org
and
use
our
search
box
and
search
for
carp,
that
would
be
another
way
to
find
those.
If
you
can't
see
the
link
invasive
carp
that
originated
in
asia
are
creeping
up
the
mississippi
river
upstream
and
they
are
incredibly
destructive
to
both
ecosystems
and
recreation.
H
Right
now,
the
current
population
has
only
made
it
to
southern
minnesota
near
la
crosse.
There
are
populations
down
there
that
have
been
caught
tracked,
monitored.
It's
not
quite
clear
if
they're
the
density
needed
for
breeding
in
minnesota,
yet
but
they're
a
really
serious
threat
to
the
river
and
if
they
get
further
upstream
and
into
you,
know
almost
every
tributary
in
the
state
we're
talking
about
some
really
really
significant
destruction.
H
As
you
know,
as
we
mentioned
the
very
beginning
of
our
show
presentation,
the
one.
The
reason
for
closing
a
bursting
anthony
falls
lock
was
to
prevent
those
invasive
carp
from
making
it
into
the
headwaters
area
of
the
state
if
they
make
it
that
far
upstream,
a
person
anthony
falls
is
a
taller
lock,
a
taller
structure
than
most
of
the
other
locks
and
dams
in
the
river,
and
so
it
can
block
carp
in
a
way
that
most
of
the
other
structures
cannot.
H
A
C
G
Yeah,
I
can
take
that
one
and
you
know,
actually
I
don't
think
we'll
even
have
to
purchase
the
property.
I
think
the
core
is
is
gonna,
convey
that
land
around
the
upper
lock
directly
at
no
cost.
I
will
say
in
terms
of
the
lock
itself:
they
would
love
it.
They
would
absolutely
love
it
if
someone
would
would
take
it
off
their
hands,
but
it's
such
a
a
huge
responsibility-
and
I'm
sure
jeff
may
want
to
speak
to
this
as
well.
G
It's
just
so
hard
to
imagine
anyone
being
more
suitable
than
the
federal
government
to
ensure
that
that
kind
of
infrastructure
remains
in
good
condition
and
is
operated
safely,
and
you
know
kind
of
with
a
regional
perspective
having
to
do
with
flood
water
and
so
on.
So
I
think
you
know
that
that
we
really
view
that,
as
as
something
that
the
corps
is
really
well
equipped
to
do
at
the
upper
lock.
Now
I
I
will
say
I'll
add
this:
the
lower
lock
there
is
a
significant
and
very
attractive.
G
G
H
H
The
the
next
two
downstream
locks
really
don't
have
a
lot
of
flood
control
function,
they're,
holding
back
water
and
making
the
river
deeper
and
kind
of
a
more
still
pool
than
they
would
if
they
didn't
exist,
but
the
the
flood
control
ability
of
upper
saint
anthony
falls
would
be
sufficient
to
make
sure
the
twin
cities
continues
to
be
served
with
that
need
that's
where
most
of
it's
happening
right
now
and
it's
actually
fairly
minimal.
It
does
get
used
for
that,
but
not
as
often
as
one
might
imagine.
A
H
That's
a
good
question
it
could
depend.
The
army
corps
could
indeed
be
the
body
to
conduct
that
work.
There
is
also
a
tactic
that,
like
I
said,
american
rivers
who
does
dam
removal
work
across
the
country
has
used
where
they
buy
dams,
that
the
army
corps
is
looking
to
sell,
hold
them
in
a
trust
and
then
raise
the
money
to
fund
and
carry
out
removal
on
their
own.
So
it's
a
little
hard
to
say
exactly
how
that
would
happen,
because
there's
a
few
different
ways
that
it's
happened
elsewhere.
H
E
Thank
you
all
for
your
presentations.
It's
super,
informative
and,
and
just
really
good
to
know.
This
is
all
going
on.
I'm
just
thinking
about
the
I.
I
really
appreciate
the
incorporation
and
working
directly
with
tribes
to
figure
out
a
vision
that
they
fully
support
for
the
river
and
I'm
just
thinking
about
like
the
process
and
the
risk
for
things
to
go
sideways
and,
for
you
know,
developers
to
win
the
day
again
in
minneapolis
and
I'm
curious
about
what
you
see
as
sort
of
like
the
biggest
risks
in
the
process.
G
You
know
robert
lilligren,
who
leads
enactee,
formerly,
was
a
city
council
member
he's
now
a
met
council
member
he's
an
amazing
bridge
builder.
You
know
kind
of
and
we're
working
with
a
facilitator
carried
aspinwall
who
used
to
be
a
city
employee.
Like
me,
she
was
with
neighborhood
and
community
relations,
so
there
there's
just
such
an
incredible
wealth
of
knowledge
on
our
team
about
about
how
to
build
bridges,
and
so
you
know,
will
we
encounter
turbulence.
G
A
H
H
From
what
I
understand
right
now,
no
dredging
is
taking
place
upstream
of
that,
because
there
is
no
commercial
navigation,
so,
for
instance,
they
used
to
dredge
up
into
north
minneapolis
and
up
to
upper
harbor
terminal
and
that
no
longer
takes
place.
So
there
is
sediment
being
held
back
by
the
locks
and
dams,
and
we
don't
know
exactly
what,
and
so
that
would
have
to
be
one
of
the
things
that
gets
studied.
How
much
is
there?
What
would
happen
if
it
were
released?
H
You
know
is
what
what
is
in
that
sediment
that
could
be
potentially
harmful
to
the
river
there's.
A
significant
amount
of
sediment
that
we
believe
is
being
held
back
by
a
burst
in
anthony
falls,
which
is
another
good
reason
to
make
sure
it
stays
in
place
and
stays
well
maintained
to
prevent
that
release
of
sediment
downriver,
which
would
then
require
more
dredging
to
keep
the
river
navigable.
C
Sorry,
it's
interesting
that
you
say
you
have
these
experts
of
managing
this
flow
and
this
new
plan
that
you
have
for
the
river
when
the
people
that
are
managing
the
land
outside
of
the
river
aren't
managing
it.
We
have
buffer
laws,
people
aren't
aren't
even
complying
to
any
of
these
rules
and
regulations
for
the
management
of
the
land.
H
C
The
combination
of
both
because
the
question
came
up
was
going
to
be,
I
was
wondering
about
the
settlement
and
the
movement
of
it
and
the
toxics
and
yada
yada,
which
will
be
coming
downstream.
So
I'm
just
looking
at
the
bigger
picture
of
both
projects
and
how
people
want
to
manage
the
land.
I
wonder
how
people
really
look
at
it.
Everybody
has
these
great
ideas,
but
nobody
really
knows
the
impacts
of
it.
But
then
you
say
you
have
people
working
and
you
trust
these
people
and
I'm
wondering
who
these
people
are
and
how
much
measurements
are.
C
Will
you
people
will
your
team
be
doing
when
it
comes
to
the
amount
of
sediment?
If
you
do
work
where
to
remove
it,
and
I'm
just
piggybacking
off
the
last
question
that
I
believe
mark
said
about
the
the
settlement
and
things?
So
that's
just
my
question
in
and
when
you
know,
when
you're
going
to
have
these
accurate
numbers
and
stuff
about
how
much
this
and
that
is
going
to
cost
environmental
statement.
That's
all.
H
That's
a
great
question,
so
the
army
corps
process
before
they
make
any
recommendations
about
the
future,
does
have
to
include
environmental
review,
and
you
know
we
we
expect
that
before
any
decisions
are
made.
All
of
those
things
are
given
close
attention.
We
don't
have
the
answers
yet
because
no
one
has
studied
it,
because
no
one
has
yet
really
studied
this
potential
future
of
the
river.
This
is
just
kind
of
a
new
opportunity
to
even
consider
removing
dams.
I
mean
it
isn't
something
you
know
those
dams
are
in
the
river
for
100
years
already
or
more.
H
So
we
just
it's
just
not
the
future
that
that's
ever
been
thought
about
before
it
would
also.
You
know,
potentially
be
at
that
time
that
other
independent
folks
who
who
wanted
to
might
also
have
an
opportunity
to
conduct
some
of
their
own
work
to
understand
what
the
impacts
would
be
costs
and
benefits,
etc.
H
This
is
all
my
friends.
The
mississippi
river
doesn't
even
have
a
formal
position
on
this.
Yet
dam
removal
is,
of
course,
a
really
intriguing
concept.
It's
exciting
to
imagine
a
different
feature
for
the
river,
but
there
are
so
many
potential
impacts
that
we
just
don't
understand.
Yet
that
need
a
lot
of
careful
study
and
a
lot
of
community
dialogue
before
any
decisions
are
made.
G
And
I
would
just
say
it
probably
is
less
applicable
to
the
friends
of
the
falls
project.
Who
and
friends
of
the
falls
also
does
not
have
a
position
on
dam
removal,
but
we
would
completely
agree
with
you
that
it
would
be
critically
important
to
study
the
impacts
of
removal
thoroughly
and
in
particular
that
toxic
sediment
and
you
know
that
they're
not
going
to
have
a
choice,
but
to
do
it
because
nipah
will
require,
I
think,
for
something
as
substantial
as
dam
removal
there
they
would.
G
G
C
When
you
do
do
one,
I
hope
you're
not
using
the
uar,
because
that's
just
basic
in
general
and
I
like
to
see
stuff,
that's
more
detailed
like
the
upper
terminal
harbor
and
I'm
just
just
wondering
how
you
know:
people
analyze
things.
It's
just
amazing
and
that's
all.
I
have
to
say
I'm
just
amazed
by
things,
I'm
that
geek,
that
searches,
research
and
fault
not
falling
rabbit
holes
but
stand
on
the
edges
of
them.
A
G
H
G
B
That's
great,
thank
you
I
I
did
want
to
just
also
just
you
know
put
out
there
like
what
is
the
sort
of
ask
of
the
city
and
and
how?
What
do
you
think?
Are
you
looking
for
support
for
a
plan
or
a
letter
of
support,
or
is
there
something
coming
up
that
is
significant?
Regards
to
you
know
lobbying
state
federal
local
government.
So
what's
your
ask
for
tonight,
if
you
have
one
or
we're
on
an
information
tour
which
is
fine
too
so.
G
G
They
traveled
they
were
with
us
when
we
went
to
meet
with
the
four
elected
leaders
of
the
dakota
tribes.
This
was
a
couple
months
ago.
You
know
committing
the
city.
To
this
I
mean
what
I
would
call
intergovernmental
collaboration.
You
know,
because
the
tribes
don't
typically
work
with
municipal
government.
You
know
they
work
with
the
federal
to
federal
and
and
then
there's
kind
of
frameworks
that
are
set
up
so
that
they
can
work
tribal
to
state.
G
You
know,
so
it's
a
very,
very
unique
opportunity
and
precedent
setting
opportunity
for
the
city
to
lead
on
an
issue
of
rising
importance
for
the
nation
and
and
this
I
think
this
project
will
be
really
significant
in
that
way.
You
know
this,
this
partnership,
so
we're
just
you,
know
the
little
non-profit
that
could
helping
to
cover
some
costs
and
move
the
process
forward,
but
the
city
is
is
centrally
important.
Yeah.
I
I
It
doesn't
make
sense
that
one
entity
that
has
has
you
know
only
looking
out
for
their
city
or
one
corporate
entity
that
is
only
looking
out
for
its
shareholders
are
the
ones
that
are
managing
that
lock
and
damn
the
locks
specifically
because
they
could
make
poor
decisions
that
would
affect
millions
and
millions
of
others
downstream,
all
the
way
through
the
central,
united
states
and
so
from
from
day
one.
The
city
has
said
we
we
do
not
manage
blocks.
F
C
G
H
Friends
of
mississippi
hasn't
tackled
that
issue,
yet
it's
something
that
we
hope
to
do
in
this
very
early
engagement
phase
is
to
build
those
relationships
with
tribal
nations.
Of
course
you
know,
fmr
is
not
the
decision
maker.
The
army
corps
is,
and
so
tribes
can
certainly
play
a
role
in
this
process
without
talking
to
fmr
at
all.
H
They
should
also
be
engaged,
and
you
know
directly
engaged
by
the
decision-making
agency,
but,
as
we
think
about
you,
know,
understanding,
community
perspectives
and
understanding
what
what's
best
for
the
health
of
the
river
and
eventually
fmr,
taking
its
own
advocacy
position.
Of
course,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
tribal
and
indigenous
perspectives
are
considered
when
we
reach
that
point.
A
A
D
A
E
Yeah,
I
would
agree-
and
I
was
going
to
recommend
that
we
submit
like
when
the
the
study
is
open
for
the
core
to
take
comments
about
what
to
study,
as
I
think
how
how
the
process
is
going,
but
but
I
think
now,
I'm
remembering
that
this
group
is
only
supposed
to
submit
comments
on
like
in
trust
city
stuff,
like
only
city
level
opportunities.
So
I'm
curious
about.
If
I
have
that
corrector.
If
that's
something
we
could
participate
in.
B
F
Yeah,
I
was
just
gonna
follow
up
on
that.
If
I
can
jump
in
and
say,
I
think,
a
role
that
we
could
play
is
you
know
just
keeping
this
on
city
council's
radar
and
being
able
to
keep
track
of
it
and
make
sure
that
we
keep
them
on
points
where
city
council
and
the
mayor
especially,
can
play
a
role
in
other
presentations
that
I've
heard
about
this.
One
thing
that's
come
up.
A
A
B
and
big
picture.
How
we're
I'm
looking
at
doing
it
is
that
we
have
60
percent
coming
from
the
renewable
electricity
grid
itself.
This
is
getting
us
to
basically
lines
up
with
what
excel
energy
is
saying.
They're
gonna
be
at
eighty
percent
carbon
free
by
2030,
but
that
is
actually
including
20
to
23.
B
We
don't
include
them,
because
the
city
has
taken
a
position
not
to
have
nuclear
power
as
mobile,
and
so
that
means
we
get
to
60
renewable
electricity
from
the
grid
and
then
we're
looking
at
doing.
10
renewable
electricity
from
utility-based
grid
programs
like
renewable
connect
or
something
like
that
and
then
we're
looking
at
locally
based
solar,
which
really
is
made
up
of
community
solar
gardens
and
rooftop
solar,
making
up
a
combined
total
of
30
percent
of
our
renewable
electricity
for
the
community.
B
So
that's
kind
of
on
the
high
level
basis.
That's
what
we're
looking
at
doing
from
the
local
level.
But
the
plan
also
goes
into
recommendations
in
regards
to
the
overall
grid
system
and
accelerating
what
excel
energy
is
doing
within
the
integrated
resource
plan.
And
that
includes
shifting
forward
the
amount
of
solar
energy
with
battery
storage.
That's
going
to
be
done,
we're
not
showing
really
much
of
any
of
that
pre-2030,
and
we
really
feel
that
if
they
did
that
one,
they
could
decarbonize
the
grid
faster,
but
two.
B
we're
saying:
accelerate
the
amount
of
utilities
case
scale
solar
from
like
the
mid-2030s
to
27,
to
2030.,
so
obviously
trying
to
get
them
to
move
faster,
better
we're
also
asking
for
more
freedom
within
the
distribution
grid.
So
there's
a
number
of
strategies
really
asking
on
regulatory.
Just
like
net
metering.
We
should
be
able
to
access
excel's
distribution
grid.
B
You
can
have
access
to
it
if
it's
under
one
megawatt,
but
otherwise
excel
basically
has
complete
control
over
to
determining
who
can
access
their
distribution
grid,
which
basically
makes
up
the
entire
seven
county
metro
area.
So
you
cannot
put
anything
in
without
basically
regulatory
or
excel
approval,
we're
trying
to
make
that
a
little
bit
easier
to
get
the
mid-size
committee
solar
garden.
B
So
we're
looking
at
a
couple
of
really
utility
scale
aspects
within
the
renewable
electricity
plan,
we're
looking
at
what
we
can
do
within
the
city
and
how
we
support
renewable
electricity
and
then
we're
looking
at
globally
kind
of
federally.
You
know
supporting
a
a
federal
renewable
electricity
standard
and
a
decarbonization
plan.
A
A
D
D
I
I
like
the
inclusion
of
an
increased
focus
on
energy
efficiency
and
on
electrification
of
residential
and
commercial
and
industrial
processes,
and-
and
I
guess
just
kind
of
the
overall
recognition
that
it's
going
to
take.
You
know
a
wide
range
of
renewable
energy
sources
to
really
be
able
to
to
make
this
happen.
B
D
B
Yeah,
those
are
very
good
points.
Yeah.
I
think
that's
absolutely
right.
We
should
be
clear
about
how
we're
tracking
it
so
yeah
just
to
be
clear,
just
like,
as
we
do
with
how
we
come
up
with
our
actual
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
is
that
we
we
get
all
of
the
kilowatt
hours
that
are
generated,
and
then
we
get
the
amount
of
renewable
energy
that
makes
up
the
grid.
B
We
add
in
local
energy
that
we
take
out
of
the
grid
mix
and
then
add
back
in
as
the
local
entity
component
of
it,
and
then
it's
multiplied
by
the
carbon
intensity
factor
of
of
it.
So
we
come
up
with
our
emissions
that
way
same
with
with
gas,
except
it's
a
little
bit
more
a
little
easier
because
we
just
have
more
or
less
one
calculation,
the
carbon
intensity,
the
btu
of
gas
and
and
multiplied
by
how
much
gas
is
being
used
within
the
city.
B
B
It
doesn't
go
in
closely
so
we
would
be
potentially
using
if
there's
fossil
gas
or
or
coal,
whatever
nuclear
on
the
grid,
we'd
be
using
it
at
the
times
when
we
are
not
being
provided
solar
or
wind
energy,
we
do
what
the
second
point
you
had
made
was
about
the
help
me
remember.
That
was
the
second
point.
B
Oh
right,
storage,
we
didn't,
we
didn't
include
storage
because
which
I'm
we
may
reconsider
at
least
putting
it
in
as
a
caveat,
mainly
because
we
were
talking
about
how
we're
producing
100
renewable
electricity.
But
it's
sort
of
like
it's
storage,
is
not
technically
producing
electricity,
but
it
it's
a
means
to
produce
100
renewable
electricity.
So
some
of
the
comments
we've
been
getting
consistently
around.
We
don't
have
discussion
about
how
battery
storage
you
know
plays
a
role
in
this
and-
and
we
didn't
go
into
the
that,
because
it's
one
it's
still
quite
a
ways
off.
B
B
If
there's
there's,
obviously
a
missing
link
here,
it's
not
like
we
forgot
about
it,
it's
just
we.
We
don't
include
it
because
it
doesn't
actually
generate
renewable
electricity,
but
that
was
a
decision
that
was
made
some
time
ago
about
how
we
would
look
at
the
blueprints
so
definitely
need
to
reconsider
that
too.
B
A
A
C
Leslie,
it
sounds
fine,
but
I
just
have
a
question.
I
was
able
to
pull
the
plan
back
up.
Is
there
a
plan
to
increase,
because
I
see
at
least
11
city
buildings
that
were
approved
by
this
company?
I'm
wondering
as
time
goes
on
because
you're
giving
a
time
span
for
for
this
electrifying
city?
Is
there
going
to
be
an
increase
in
our?
Is
there
plans
to
increase
these
solar
panels
on
city
buildings
and
different
entities
and
open
spaces
that
are
available,
that
we
can
place
them?
C
B
B
B
So
looking
at
all
kinds
of
new
things
to
be
able
to
get
that
to
get
us
to
that
30
percent
local,
but
it
it
means
maxing
out
the
the
not
maxing
out
the
rough
trust
we
need
to
get
to
about
30
percent
of
all
the
potential
rooftops,
which
still
sounds
like
a
lot.
But
it's
it's.
We've
been
making
a
lot
of
progress
on
it.
Actually,
so.
C
A
quick
question
to
follow
up
with
that-
and
I
heard
you
saying
the
private
sector,
and
so
that
sounds
like
it's
going
to
be
a
competition
with
excel,
and
that
being
said,
is
there
going
to
be
a
better
incentive
for
the
residents
like
excel,
wants
to
give
you
30
to
put
it
on
there
with
no
benefits?
Will
the
city
be
able
to
give
the
residents?
Maybe
well
we'll
give
you
this
incentive,
but
you
will
be
able
to
get
the
benefits
from
the
solar
panels.
C
B
You
know
I
don't
really
have
the
ultimate
details
on
that
I
mean
I
will
say
that
what
we
hope
to
be
able
to
do
is
to
be
offer
a
way
to
access
renewable
energy
that
is
of
benefit
and
and
for
those
who
have
high
energy
burdens
to
reduce
their
energy
burden.
So
I
think,
there's
going
to
be
kind
of
a
scale
between
where
we
might
be
at
based
on
on
income
or
need,
but
I
also
think
we
want
to
create
a
wider
range
of
opportunities
for
for
folks.
B
So
you
know:
we've
got
community
solar
gardens
now,
we've
got
rooftop
solar
and
we
have
all
of
our
rooftop.
Solar
incentives
are
completely
used
up
already,
so
it
becomes
a
situation
where
you
know
we
need
to
have
more
resources
put
into
this
to
be
able
to
grow
it.
So
this
is
why
this
ultimately
needs
to
be
a
plan
that
we
can
work
together
with
the
utilities
as
well
too,
and
so
you
know
what
the
opportunities
may
lie
had.
I
I
know
what
program
you're
talking
about
that
they
presented.
B
B
C
B
With
the
new
solar,
what
percentage
of
your
energy
portfolio
will
be
solar,
renewable
energy?
So
within
the
city
of
minneapolis
enterprise,
the
new
5.1
million
that
is
going
to
be
at
our
community
solar
gardens?
That
would
put
us
above
50
percent
of
our
enterprise,
electricity
from
solar,
we're
actually
long-term,
not
going
to
counter
community
solar
gardens
towards
the
towards
the
city
enterprise,
because
we
don't
control
the
renewable
energy
credits.
A
So
I
guess
back
to
the
question
that
I'd
started
out
with.
Would
other
commissioners
be
okay
with
me,
starting
a
google
doc
for
us
to
put
in
any
thoughts
or
questions
we
have,
and
I
can
work
on
turning
that
into
some
sort
of
comment
letter
that
we
can
that
I
can
send
in
draft
form
to
kim
in
advance
of
the
october
15th
deadline,
but
then
have
a
official
sort
of
review
and
approval.
At
our
october
meeting.
A
B
Yes,
there
is
an
update
on
the
roof
depot,
so
I
think
we
mentioned
at
our
last
meeting
that
there
was
a
staff
direction
that
said
to
stop.
You
know
moving
forward
with
the
development
of
the
roof
depot
into
the
hiawatha
water
maintenance
facility
and
that
directing
staff
to
come
back
with
a
fiscal
note,
analyzing
what
the
costs
are
for.
B
B
But
there
was
a
a
a
substitute
motion
by
council
member
reich
to
basically
move
forward
with
a
plan
to
have
some
expansion
of
the
plan,
but
to
remove
approximately
three
to
three
and
a
half
acres
from
the
southwest
portion
of
the
seven
acre
site
to
be
sold
to
you
know
public
through
some
kind
of
process
to
be
determined,
so
ultimately
it
would
and
that
did
actually
carry
the
day.
Seven
six
yeah,
council,
member
ellison,
is
sort
of
the
swing
boat
on
this.
B
So
he
voted
in
favor
to
stop
the
project,
but
he
didn't
vote
in
favor
last
time
for
the
exclusive
rights
he
was
the
swing
vote
on
that
and
then
this
time
he
did
vote
to
support
this
position
that
councilman,
riccano
and
and
others
councilmember
council
vice
president
jenkins
and
others
did
not
support.
So
again,
it's
it's
a
very
tight
call
here.
So
at
this
point
I
I
haven't
seen
even
what
the
the
sort
of
motion
was
being
drafted
in
the
meeting
more
or
less.
A
F
B
Okay,
I
mean
it,
it
could
be.
I
just
I
mean
like
what
portion
are
they
talking
about?
I
didn't
see
it
wasn't
sort
of
delineated
on
a
map,
at
least
in
anything
I
saw
so
I
don't
know,
but
obviously
that
the
you
know
as
part
of
the
racial
equity
impact
analysis.
We
did
talk
about
tearing
down
that
particular
building
and
said
it
would
have
a
negative
impact,
a
negative
racial
equity
impact
because
of
its
demolition.
B
You
know,
but
I
don't
know
if
the
community
is
going
to
support
that
or
not,
and
it's
still
not
final,
because
it's
supposed
to
go
to
the
council
on
friday
and
I
would
not
be
surprised
if
it
was
delayed
because
they
actually
never
did
move
the
last
staff
direction
to
counsel
for
the
full
final.
Like
vote,
so
it
was
a
sort
of
a
committee
like
return
to
the
committee
staff
direction
so.
F
B
I
would
I'm
just
saying
I
wouldn't
be
surprised
because
they
didn't
bring
the
staff
to
they
didn't
need
to,
but
they
didn't
bring
the
last
staff
direction
out
of
committee
to
the
full
council
so
that
vote
that
went
on
as
committee.
But
it's
not
it's
not
100
solidified.
Yet
so,
let's
see
how
it
goes
out.
So
I
I
don't
know
and
councilmember
khanna
was
was,
you
know
I'll,
say
spitting
tax
but
sort
of
not
being
involved
in
the
in
the
discussions
about
this
substitute
motion
that
came
up.
A
F
Yeah,
I'm
trying
to
remember
what
exactly
happened
with
the
eaw,
because
there
was
some
confusion
about
whether
voting
to
approve
it
meant
accepting
it
as
complete
or
just
accepting
it
into
the
record,
and
I
would
think
if
I
don't
know
if
automatically
this
new
option
be
with
dividing.
The
three
acres
would
require
a
new
environmental
review,
but
I
think
we
should
push
for,
especially
as
ciac
and
the
environmental
aspect
of
being
sure
that
the
environmental
impacts
are
thoroughly
examined
before
anything
moves
forward.
F
B
The
the
the
ew
was
accepted
as
complete
by
the
council,
so
that
was
based
on
the
you
know,
the
previous
plan.
So
a
new
plan
that,
from
what
we
know
now
would
be
sort
of
splitting
things
in
half,
would
require
a
new
eaw
and
the
new
eaw.
Just
last
week
the
eqb
supported
a
addition
to
the
eaw,
which
is
a
greenhouse
gas
inventory
and
mitigation
plan,
and
so
they've
actually
reached
out
to
the
city.
B
E
J
E
F
But
I'm
planning
to
opt
into
that
sorry,
anna.
What
I
had
seen
with
the
news
about
the
eqb
was
that
minneapolis
had
already
signed
on
to
the
pilot
program.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
still
means
they
get
to
pick
and
choose
which
projects,
but
I
would
think
that
would
make
a
pretty
clear
you
know
if
they
didn't
did
keep
doing
environmental
reviews
without
it
sort
of
belies
the
decision
to
join
the
pilot
program
with
eqd
yeah.
It's
also
too.
B
Yeah
yeah,
it
does
relate
to
that
yeah.
We
haven't
chosen
a
project,
there
isn't
one
that's
there.
You
know
we
were
talking
about
it
with
a
kmart
site.
The
aw
has
already
been
done
on
a
proper
terminal.
So
that's
not
you
know,
and
there
we
go
the
aur
thing
too,
but
so
yeah
we'll
we'll
definitely
we've
spoke.
I
I
submitted
two
different
comment
periods
to
in
support
of
putting
that
in
and
lobbied
the
eqb
chair,
margaret
anderson
keller,
to
include
it.
So
it's
very
important
for
us.
B
I
think
to
do
that
because
otherwise
we
don't.
I
mean
part
of
what
we
had
a
issue
with
in
this
project.
Is
it
was
sort
of
unclear
because
we
didn't
look
at
cumulative
impacts
on
this
situation
within
the
eaw,
how
this
project
was
impacting
so
anyway,
but
all
that
is,
we
just
got
to
continue
to
to
be
diligent
and
bringing
it
forward
in
all
these
processes,
because
it's
not
it's
not
taken
for
granted.
B
It's
taken
for
granted
that
it's
sort
of
like
we
don't
need
to
assess
it,
but
we
need
to
bring
this
forward.
We
need
to
look
at
how
we
are
impacting
communities
that
have
already
had
cumulative
impacts
for
generations.
So
anyway,
all
right
enough
said
on
that,
but
yeah
aur
that
I'm
sorry,
you
want
to
go
ahead.
A
Yes,
just
making
sure
I'm
not
on
you,
okay.
So
on
that
on
the
comment
letter
that
I
sent
to
council,
I've
literally
only
gotten
a
response
from
council
member
johnson's
aide
saying
that
they
have
are
reviewing
the
concerns.
But
that's
the
only
person
that
I
had
heard
back
from,
and
I
think
part
of
it
is
because
andrew
johnson
is
the
council
member
for
my
ward.
A
F
Yeah,
I
also
followed
up
personally
and
got
a
response
from
evan
reich
and
someone
else's
office
that
I
can't
remember
but
yeah.
I
just
think
I
mean
I
know
it
has
already
been
voted
on,
but
the
fact
that
within
days
the
eqb
approved
this
pilot
program
and
the
city
signed
on,
I
don't
know
who
exactly.
That
decision
is,
if
it's
just
you
kim,
but
to
have
this
aur
approved.
You
know
just
under
the
wire
with
no
climate
consideration.
F
A
B
So
I'm
it's
coming
under
the
wire,
because
october
1st
is
the
deadline,
but
I
have
four
prospective
new
members
who
are,
I
think,
all
will
bring
some
unique
things
to
the
board.
I'm
gonna
share
them
with
with
our
board
chair
here
and
stuff,
but
I
haven't
had
actually
after
the
meeting,
but
I
haven't
had
a
chance
even
to
send
him
off
to
the
council,
members
and
stuff.
So
I
want
to.
B
I
want
to
kind
of
do
that
internal
due
diligence
first,
but
I
have
spoken
with
all
of
them
and
they're
they're
a
wide
range
of
backgrounds
that
and
and
areas
they
live
in
and
and
professional
expertise.
I
think
they'll
be
a
a
nice
addition
to
the
board
and
I
hope
to
be
able
to
get
them
approved
and
and
on
board
for
our
october
20th
meeting.
F
Okay,
is
that
what
exactly
then
triggers?
Because
I
was
surprised
that
we
have
open
seats,
but
then
we're
not
listed
among
the
boards
when
minneapolis
sent
out
the
application
deadline
of
next
week.
So
what
is
the
sort
of
decision
between
you
know?
Opening
it
up
as
an
open
seats
or
only
considering
the
applications
from
last
year?.
B
So
we
we
can
keep
the
applications
from
last
time
and
utilize
those,
and
I
felt
that
that
would
be
a
better
use
of
time.
I
had
to
actually
go
and
would
have
to
go
to
two
separate
council
actions
to
get
it
done
one.
I
have
to
go
to
council
actions
to
actually
get
the
people
to
be
removed
from
the
board.
Then
I'd
have
to
open
it
up
for
applications,
then
review
the
applications.
B
B
A
Thanks
leslie
recognizing
how
little
time
we
have
left,
I
do
want
to
not
to
put
you
on
the
spot
test,
but
I'm
curious
when
you
were
talking
about
community
engagement.
Are
there
particular
things
that,
like
places
that
you
wanted
to
see,
seak
members
like
participating
in
the
near
future
or
or
anything
regarding,
I
sent
an
email.
F
F
Ciac
has
attended
open
streets
in
the
past
and
we've
sort
of
I
haven't
had
it
on
my
radar
since
importion
events
weren't
happening,
but
they
are
right
now
and
so
there
are
two
more
open
streets
and
I
don't
know
exactly
what
the
process.
So
the
structure
has
been
for
that
before,
but
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
didn't
get
lost.