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From YouTube: December 15, 2021 Board of Estimate and Taxation
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B
As
we
begin
I'll
note
for
the
record
that
this
meeting
has
remote
participation
by
members
as
authorized
by
minnesota
statutes,
section
13d
.021
due
to
the
declared
local
health
pandemic,
the
city
will
be
recording
and
posting
this
meeting
to
the
city's
website
and
youtube
channel
as
a
means
of
increasing
access
and
transparency.
This
meeting
is
public
and
subject
to
the
open
meeting
law.
B
B
B
C
B
D
B
I
understand
the
mayor
is
trying
to
join
the
meeting
by
phone
because
he's
having
prob
computer
problems,
so
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
that's
in
process.
The
next
is
the
acceptance
of
minutes
from
the
december
eighth
meeting.
May
I
please
have
a
motion
to
accept
the
minutes.
B
B
E
Thank
you,
president,
wheeler
and
good
afternoon
fellow
board
members.
My
name
is
ryan,
patrick
I'm,
the
internal
audit
director
for
the
city
of
minneapolis,
and
I
was
approached
to
provide
a
very
brief
description
of
a
potential
resource
sharing
agreement
between
the
board
and
internal
audit
to
the
first
line.
E
We
have
a
unique
situation
in
both
the
bt
and
the
internal
audit
committee
in
that
we're
both
independent,
independent
boards
outside
of
the
normal
city
structure.
The
audit
committee,
to
which
I
report
is
comprised
of
a
minority
of
council
members
majority
non-elected
officials
who
are
appointed
by
the
council.
So
generally
it's
two
and
two
council
members,
potentially
three
community
members,
but
they're
they're,
a
blend
of
community
and
council
appointees.
E
E
E
There
is
a
check
and
balance
and
conducting
risk
assessment,
the
importance
of
which
has
been
elevated
over
the
past
year
and
we're
charged
with
providing
enterprise
coverage.
So
internal
audit
is
asked
to
provide
this
type
of
oversight
and
audit
activities
for
the
entirety
of
this
interactive
city
enterprise.
E
We're
currently
staffed
with
a
city
auditor
me
and
two
internal
audit,
one
employees
we're
in
the
process
of
hiring
addition.
Two
additional
auditor
one
ftes
in
the
coming
months,
totaling
five
total
full-time
employees
to
provide
enterprise
coverage,
move
to
the
next
slide.
E
I
was
approached
to
speak
to
this
proposal
and
that
it
would
allow
the
board's
employee
to
work
part-time
with
internal
audits,
supplementing
our
current
staff
in
looking
at
the
skill
sets
and
requirements
for
your
your
staff.
It
looks
like
it
lined
up
well
with
audit's
needs
and
really
the
kind
of
most
important
part
of
this
is
audit,
doesn't
isn't
able
to
work
share
with
other
departments.
E
Specifically
because
our
governing
body
does
not
allow
employees
to
work
for
internal
audit
who
also
work
for
other
departments
in
the
city,
because
the
bt
is
unique
in
its
independence,
the
sharing
of
resources
could
be
possible
and
allow
us
to
still
comply
with
our
own
iaa
red
book.
That's
our
that's
our
governing
body
standards!
E
So
when
it
was
brought
to
me,
it
seemed
like
a
potential
opportunity
to
to
share
some
resources,
given
the
needs
of
the
city
in
the
coming
year.
So
I
wanted
to
speak
briefly
as
to
why
why
those
why
this
lined
up?
That
was
a
proposal
that
was
brought
to
me
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
about
audit.
B
I've
seen
none,
I
I
think
we
can
move
on
to
the
to
the
next
next
piece,
which
is
actually
the
budget
amendment
resolution.
B
C
I
would
like
to
propose
an
amendment
to
this,
basically
deleting
the
last
sentence.
The
impact
of
that
would
be
to
take
the
half
time
position
that
we
have
from
halftime
to
full
time.
It
would
not,
however,
designate
beyond
use
of
the
board.
Investment
needs.
What
other
alternatives
that
position
could
be
used
for.
My
understanding
is
that
in
the
next
three
months,
there's
going
to
be
a
robust
discussion
within
the
city
of
what
sort
of
analytical
and
financial
and
policy
staffing
is
needed.
C
I
know
there's
been
discussions
of
it
fitting
in
with
finance
and
with
the
council
that
that
conversation
happened
in
that
next
three
months,
but
that,
right
now
that
we
move
to
change
this
from
a
half-time
position
to
a
full-time
position.
That
would
be
my
proposal.
B
I'll
second,
for
a
sake
of
discussion
and
throw
it
open,
a
motion
has
been
made
and
seconded
that
we
strike
the
line
following
the
execution
of
an
agreement
by
both
the
board
and
the
city.
The
senior
advisor
will
report
half
time
to
the
board
of
estimated
taxation
and
half
time
to
the
city
auditor.
We
would
remove
that.
B
Well,
I
thank
you.
I'm
sorry,
I
did
not
see
yes,
mr
fletcher.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
can
you
clarify,
I
understand
that
there
was
some
back
and
forth
with
staff
today
and
some
some
agreed
upon
language
can.
Can
you
clarify
what
language
we're
discussing?
Is
it
it's
now
the
language
on
the
screen,
yeah.
B
The
link
language,
that's
on
the
screen,
it
has
to
do
with
the
with
the
appropriation
and
that's
what's
in
the
screen.
What
I
understand
ms
becker's
requesting
is
that
we
remove
that
final
sentence,
so
it
will
just
read
that
2022
expenditures
be
increased
by
ninety
two
thousand
two
hundred
and
twelve
dollars
to
the
use
of
as
board
investment
taxation
fund,
balance
to
move
the
position
of
senior
advisor
and
finance
administration
from
part-time
to
full-time.
D
D
C
Oh,
that's
exactly
correct
board
member
fletcher.
We
had
a
full-time
staff
for
the
last
30
some
years.
We
did
get
cut
in
the
budget
budget
issue
a
year
or
two
ago,
but
this
would
return
that
back
to
that
there's
there
seems
to
be
so
much
demand
for
this
person.
That
makes
sense
to
increase
the
budget
now
and
then
we
know,
as
going
into
those
conversations
that
it's
a
full-time
position
as
opposed
to
a
half-time
position.
There's
money
already
in
the
board
of
estimate
fund
balances
to
fund
this.
C
So
there's
no
impact
on
the
city
budget,
but
exactly
what
that
role
would
be
would
then
be
worked
out
within
this
conversation,
but
going
into
it
we
would
assume
it's
a
full-time,
not
a
part-time
position.
That's,
and
I
think
that
that's
the
in
the
interest
of
the
city
council.
I
think
that's
in
the
interest
of
the
mayor.
I
think
it's
in
the
interest
of
everyone
that
this
be
a
full-time
position,
and
I
see
that
mayor
frye
would
like
to
speak.
B
Mayor
frye,
are
you,
are
you
able
to
share
with
us.
F
Great
great,
thank
you
so
so
my
understanding
is
that
this
amendment
to
the
original
amendment
would
make
this
position
full-time
and
bring
it
specifically
under
the
bep.
F
You
know
I
would
I
would
based
on
that-
and
maybe
I'm
misunderstanding
it,
but
based
on
that,
I
would
advocate
against
the
amendment
because
it
would
be
pre-determining
an
outcome
and
setting
up
with
one-time
funds
the
obligation
that
we
continue
the
position
ongoing,
which
may
be
the
way
we
ultimately
go,
and
it
may
not
be
the
way
we
ultimately
go
after
the
the
comprehensive
review
and
recommendations
come
out
in
this
next
year.
B
You
know
where
I
I
just
want
to
say
a
quick
word:
we're
we're
sort
of
in
a
conundrum
on
this,
because
we
very
much
wanted
to
have
a
full-time
person
succeed
jack,
because
the
board
of
vestment
taxation
used
to
have
two
full-time
people.
They
had
the
auditor
city
auditor
12
years
ago,
so
that
the
audit
function
and
and
and
and
ryan's
presentation
that
I
mean
they
all
sort
of
fit
together.
B
But
it
seems
like
there's
all
kinds
of
sort
of
concerns
or
roadblocks
and
right
now,
they're
asking
the
our
staff
person
to
do
additional
work
to
help
provide
a
computer
system
for
the
city
and,
and
so
there
seems
to
be
a
lot
of
demand
and
need
for
the
skills
that
that
that
our
staff
person
has.
We
were
very
pleased
when,
when
we
were
able
to
find
alan,
but
the
city
took
him
away,
we
don't
want
the
city
to
take
to
take
tony
away.
B
We
think
he's
a
great
gift
to
the
board
of
vestment
taxation
to
the
city
of
minneapolis.
So
I
mean
I
understand,
I
understand
your
concern
mayor
fry,
but
I
also
understand
the
need
for
the
board
of
investment
taxation
to
to
to
be
able
to
to
do
its
work
and
do
it
works.
Well,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
have
dropped
by
the
wayside,
with
without
a
full-time
position,
and
a
lot
of
it
had
to
do
with
figuring
out
all
the
the
tax
implications
for
property
taxes
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
B
B
Thanks
for
calling
me
in,
I
just
can't
see
yes,
council,
member
bender.
G
Thanks
mr
chair,
I'm
torn
about
this
because
I
certainly
can
understand
the
desire
for
any
staff
person
to
have
a
full-time
role.
G
G
G
I
know
that
city
staff
have
concerns
about
the
original
proposal.
I
was
actually
more
comfortable
with
that.
Although
I
mean
there
are
a
lot
of
unanswered
questions
about
the
audit
function
and
how
question
one
will
be
implemented.
G
I
had
hoped,
as
I
shared
with
you,
mr
chair,
you
know
I
had
hoped
we
could
be
farther
along
with
that.
But
it
sounds
like
it's
going
to
take
some
time
to
re-establish
an
independent
audit
function
and
and
even
determine
the
staffing
level
that
was
needed
myself
and
I'm,
I
think,
councilmember
fletcher
and
I'm
sure
others.
G
You
know
reached
out
to
our
clerk
and
the
city
coordinator
and
had
some
conversations
about
that
as
we
were
looking
at
the
city's
2022
budget
and
it
would
have
been
my
preference
to
fund
the
audit
department
more
fully
in
the
2022
budget.
But
it
sounded
like
the
recommendations
for
how
to
implement
question.
One
were
not
ready
enough
to
do
that.
G
So
it's
a
long
way
to
say
I
feel
pretty
uncomfortable
voting
today
with
so
many
loose
ends,
and-
and
I
guess
I
would
have
felt
better
about
the
original
proposal,
which
at
least
gave
the
clarity
of
you
know,
half
time
for
a
bet.
Halftime
for
audit,
with
some
of
those
organizational
and
obviously
legal
questions
to
be
worked
out.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair
yeah.
I
share
that
discomfort
and
part
of
what
I'm
uncomfortable
about
is
is
that
I
don't
want
this
conversation
to
reflect
on
mr
sterl
and
his
excellent
work,
and
obviously
his
services
are
in
demand,
there's
people
sort
of
making
plans
to
to
try
to
get
some
of
the
staff
capacity
you
know
through
through
making
this
proposal.
So
I
I
want
to
reflect
that.
I
think
everybody
involved.
D
It
sounds
like
thinks
very
highly
of
the
particular
staff
person
in
question,
and
I
don't
want
him
to
be
caught
in
the
middle
of
any
of
this.
I
also,
I
think,
do
have
some
concerns,
particularly,
I
think,
with
the
proposed
amendment.
D
D
That
would
also
give
the
clerk
an
audit
time
to
figure
out
their
plan
in
terms
of
what
capacity
they
need
to
have
a
clearer
plan
about
what
this
resource
sharing
might
be
to
maybe
even
have
a
resource
sharing
agreement
for
the
next
board
to
to
look
at
to
be
able
to
vote
on,
and
so
I
I
am.
I
am
not
sure
I
can
vote
yes
on
this
today.
D
I
would
wonder
if
there's
a
version
of
this,
where
we
table
it
so
that
it
carries
over
to
the
next
meeting
and
the
next
board,
rather
than
voting
no
on
it
today,
which
would
feel
like
it
has
some
top
spin
on
it
in
relationship
to
the
proposal,
which
I
would
say,
I'm
is
something
that
I'm
open
to,
but
that
just
doesn't
look
ready
for
us
to
vote
on
today.
D
I
know
that
there
are
some
concerns
about
appropriate
use
of
the
levy
in
relationship
to
a
joint
powers,
agreement,
etc
and,
and
some
other
things
that
just
feel
a
little
unresolved
behind
the
scenes.
So
I
I
I
I
would
suggest
that
this
might
not
be
positioned
to
pass
today.
D
I
think,
in
light
of
the
mayor's
comments,
you
know
arguing
for
flexibility
as
they
figure
out
how
they're
implementing
the
government
structure
charter
changes
that
this
might
not
be
the
day
to
do
to
to
make
this
move
and
that
we
should
think
about
whether
we
might
want
to
table
this
and
carry
it
over
to
the
next
board.
B
Thank
you,
mr
fletcher,
and
I
want
to
remind
everybody
we're
only
voting
on
striking
the
last
sentence.
That's
the
it's
not
the
whole
piece,
it's
just
the
last
sentence.
So
do
we
have
anybody
who
wants
to
speak
to
the
to
the
amendment
to
the
resolution?
Yeah
leave
that
up
there
please.
I
appreciate
that
ms
becker.
C
Councilmember
fletcher
councilman
brenner.
I
hear
both
of
you
on
the
question
of
resource
sharing.
I
would
note
that
council
president
bender
is
also
board
member
bender
and
she's
the
same
person,
and
she
has
every
right
as
a
board
member,
to
ask
our
staff
the
board
of
estimate
staff
to
do
things,
and
so
the
question
of
resource
sharing
is
a
very
I.
C
It
may
not
be
the
right
way
to
even
think
about
this
because,
like
council,
member
fletcher
is
board
member
fletcher
and
if
you
ask
the
the
staff
of
the
board
of
best,
but
you
have
every
right
to
do
that
because
you're,
the
same
people
and
so
the
question
of
of
who
and
what
jurisdiction.
When
they're
staffing,
you
seems
to
me
a
little
difficult.
C
My
second
concern
is
that
we
have
council
members
who
are
going
to
be
coming
in.
They
have
a
two-year
term
and
they're
not
going
to
have
resources
to
go
to
for
their
first
three
to
six
months
of
being
in
office.
Yet
we
have
a
position
already
that
exists
in
this.
This
structure,
where
council
members
are
on
both
boards
and
have
a
right
to
access
that,
and
so
part
of
this,
is
the
concern
about
the
next
board
and
and
needing
resources
that
already
exist
and
are
available
to
them.
C
But
I
appreciate
that
not
everybody
holds
that
opinion
and
people
are
going
to
vote
how
they
vote
on
this.
G
B
Yeah,
okay,
so
clerk,
would
you
please
call
the
roll
yes
or
no.
F
B
So
we
now
have
the
entire
resolution
before
us.
B
It's
been,
the
motion
has
been
made
and
it's
been
seconded.
Is
there
any
further
discussion
about
this
resolution.
D
G
A
Board,
member
fry,
I'm
sorry,
could
you
just
clarify?
Can
you
hear
me
yeah,
yes,
board?
Member
french,
yes,
board
member
bender
aye
board
member
fletcher
bye!
B
The
the
resolution
has
been
tabled.
We
now
have
before
us
the
a
shared
staffing
resolution.
B
B
B
I
always
listen
to
everybody
else
who
may
be
obviously
sharper
than
me,
so
I'm
just
going
to
read
this
authorizing
agreement
between
the
sub-minneapolis
staffing
resolved
by
the
board
of
investment
taxation
that
the
board
does
hereby
authorize
an
agreement
city
media's
for
shared
staffing
of
a
senior
advisor
which
will
be
executed
by
the
president
of
the
board.
The
senior
advisor
shall
report
halftime
to
the
board
of
vestment
taxation.
B
Half
time
to
the
internal
audit
department,
senior
advisors
shall
provide
ongoing
staff
support
of
the
city
auditor,
conducting
risk-based
audit
work,
financial
analysis
and
other
activities
for
the
city
of
minneapolis.
That's
needed.
The
senior
advisor
shall
be
paid
out
of
the
2022
board
of
estimate
taxation
budget.
This
agreement
shall
continue
until
such
time
either
party
decides
to
rescind,
as
exercise
by
majority
vote
at
his
legislative
body.
B
Somebody
motion
after
we
have
a
motion:
yes,
you've
moved
it
so
moved.
Is
there
a
second.
C
B
Yes,
we're
fine,
I'm
running
the
meeting
carol,
it's
okay!
I
I've
got
it
so
any
discussion,
any
discussion.
If
not,
I
may
ask
clerk
to
call
the
role.
B
So
there
we
have
some
honorary
resolutions
for
departing
board
members.
I
don't
know
if
you
took
time
to
read
those
but
they're.
They
seem
to
be
very
well
done
and
make
us
all
look
really
probably
better
than
we
should.
B
We
have
to
pass
those
honorary
resolutions,
so
I
think
we
need
a
motion
to
to
do
that.
Would
somebody
like
to
so
move
so
move?
Is
there
a
second.
G
G
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
and
board
member
becker
for
your
service,
and
you
know
the
board
of
investment.
Taxation
is
one
of
these
quirky
pieces
of
our
sprawling
government
in
minneapolis,
but
you've
both
put
in
many
years
of
service
and
they're
captured
in
the
resolutions.
G
So
I
just
wanted
to
take
the
time
to
thank
you
both
and
you
know,
there's
going
to
be
a
huge
turnover
in
this
board.
So
I
know
both
of
you
will
still
be
here
and
able
to
share
your
experience
with
the
city
and
what
the
folks
will
be
on
this
commission
in
the
future,
but
just
wanted
to
make
sure
to
take
the
time
to
say.
Thanks
to
both
of
you.
B
Okay,
yes,
I
can
hear
you
mayor
fry.
F
I
I
also
wanted
to
thank
all
of
the
bet,
members,
outgoing
that
and
you
know,
especially
a
bit
big.
Thank
you
to
david
and
carol.
F
I
know
how
much
you
have
have
done
for
this
particular
board
how
you've
advocated
on
behalf
of
these
important
roles-
and
I
know
there
is
a
massive
experience
gap
you
know
coming
from
losing
the
council
members
that
are
well
always
outgoing
and
incoming
every
year,
but
also
losing
your
talents
from
that
you've
garnered
over
many
years,
and
so
I
just
really
appreciate
your
work
really
appreciate
all
of
you
and
thank
you.
B
Thank
you
so
much.
Anybody
else
want
to
say
something
before
we
adopt
these
resolutions.
A
B
28
years
ago
I
was
first
elected
to
public
office
in
duluth
minnesota.
I
served
as
a
city
council
member
ran
for
mayor.
Thankfully
I
lost
that
job
I
didn't
win
and
it
would
have
been
a
tough
job
to
do.
B
But
when
I
moved
here
to
the
cities
my
life
settled
down,
I
decided
that
I
wanted
to
give
something
back
to
the
city
and
it
was
suggested.
I
run
for
the
board
of
vestment
taxation,
which
I
knew
almost
nothing
about.
B
C
B
It
has
been
great
to
to
know
our
staff
people
on
the
board
of
estimated
taxation.
It's
been
great
to
work
with
city
council
members
and
with
three
different
mayors.
It's
it's.
It
was
a
a
great
opportunity
and
I'm
very
grateful
that
the
citizens
of
minneapolis
selected
me
three
times
city-wide
to
serve
on
their
board
of
estimate
taxation,
and
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
that
opportunity
and
I
believe
I
have
a
friend
who
wants
to
say
something
too.
C
Yeah
david,
it's
been
an
honor,
it's
been
an
honor
to
serve
with
all
of
you.
It's
been
an
honor
david,
you
and
I
don't
always
agree,
but
we
work
things
out.
You
know
you
can
take
people
that
you
disagree
with
and
still
make
wonderful,
amazing
things
and
that's
a
gift
and
I've
done
five
mayors.
I've
worked
with
five
mayors
instead
of
three,
but
my
hope
is
always
that
we
leave
a
better
city.
C
Our
citizens
deserve
it,
and
thank
you
to
everybody
and
thank
you
especially
to
the
staff,
the
clerk's
office,
jackie
jack,
quali,
alan
tony
everybody,
who's
worked
with
us
and
help
make
us
look
good
and
make
this
city
a
better
place.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
and
your
efforts.
It
matters
and
then,
thanks
to
everybody
on
this
board,
puts
in
the
time
and
as
hard,
it
is
as
it
is,
and
how
hard
we
make
our
families
keep
up
things
it.