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From YouTube: September 27, 2021 Transgender Equity Council Policy Subcommittee 20210927 130703 Meeting Recording
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A
And
I
will
now
start.
I
will
now
call
to
order
the
meeting
of
the
transgender
equity
council
policy
subcommittee
for
september
27th,
and
I
will
call
the
roll
to
verify
the
presence
of
a
quorum
melissa,
berner.
B
B
B
A
B
A
And
then
starting
to
talk
through
next
steps.
Kenzie,
do
you
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
presentation
not
to
put
you
on
the
spot?
But
since
you
and
hunter
presented
it
and
then
we
can
start
to
go
into
like
the
meetings
with
council
offices
that
have
happened
and
so
on.
A
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
I'm
out
of
it
this
week.
Yes,
first,
we
need
a
motion
to
adopt
today's
agenda
and
last
month's
minutes.
C
A
C
Yes,
okay,
so,
let's
see
last
wednesday
we
gave
a
little
presentation
to
city
council
me
and
hunter
to
I
mean
if,
if
you've
read
our
recommendation
document,
it's
essentially
a
script
that
we
read
word
for
word
to
counsel
and
we,
I
don't
think
there
were
any
last
minute
edits
or
anything,
but
immediately
after
our
presentation,
actually,
council
member
schrader.
C
Now
I'm
a
little
fuzzy
on
exactly
what
he
did.
But
did
he
like
propose
to
get
moving
on
the
like
at
least
one
gender-neutral
restroom
in
all
new
builds.
A
Actually
slightly
different,
so
he
brought
forward
a
staff
direction,
which
is
essentially
like
a
formal
instruction
from
council
that
staff
from
certain
offices
have
to
do
something:
to
bring
together
staff
from
all
the
relevant
departments
to
form
a
work
group
to
research.
The
like
feasibility
implementation
process
of
requiring
that
all
single
stall
bathrooms.
C
A
Okay,
I'm
gonna
say
that
again
more
slowly.
Based
on
that
not
so,
he
brought
forward
a
staff
direction
instruction
to
staff
that
staff
from
all
the
relevant
departments,
finance,
attorney's
office,
civil
rights,
community
planning
and
economic
development,
etc.
B
C
Yes,
so
my
my
apologies
on
that,
I
was
getting
confused
with.
I
think,
like
a
bullet
point
before
that,
but
yes,
so
yeah.
It
was
very
cool
to
see
action
on
that
literally
immediately
after
our
presentation-
and
we
also
got
a
lot
of
good
feedback
about
our
recommendations
in
how
they
were
specific
and.
C
Just
specific,
I
think,
yeah
yeah
and
just
the
way
we
formatted
everything
but-
and
I
forget
which
council
member
said
this
exactly,
but
they
said
that
our
recommendations
should
be
like
a
model
for
other
boards
and
commissions
to
give
their
recommendations
as
well.
So
basically,
we
did
a
great
job
and
very
very
proud
of
us,
and
I
don't
think
there
were
any
questions
or
any
concerns
raised
at
that
time.
A
No,
when
councilmember
schroeder
brought
forward
his
staff
direction,
cbp
jenkins
was
kind
of
like
we
could
also
use
the
trans
issues.
Work
group
for
this
that
already
exists-
and
I
feel
like
that
was
the
biggest
question
that
was
raised
was
like
what
internal
mechanism
are
we
using
to
do
this
and
I'm
following
up
with
her
to
talk
through
what
makes
sense
and
if
there
is
capacity
in
the
issues,
work
group
or
if
this
needs
to
happen
more
outside
of
that,
but
I
don't
think
yeah.
C
Perfect
yeah
and
then
I
think,
though
our
presentation
is
over.
We
are
still
well
after
we
presented
that
reminded
a
lot
of
council
members
that
track
reached
out
and
asked
for
kind
of
like
one-on-one
meetings
with
council
members
or
staff.
So
we
could
talk
through
recommendations
individually,
so
right
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I'm
thinking
about
there's
a
tentative
meeting
with
council
member
paul
masano,
where
we
will
be
essentially
going
more
in
depth
with
those
recommendations
and
kind
of
the
concerns
or
questions
that
she
has
just
talking
through
that.
C
C
It's
just
a
very
critical
time
in
the
election
kind
of
process,
where
you
know
the
outgoing
folks,
or
maybe
they
don't
even
know
if
they're
gonna
be
outgoing
or
or
re-elected,
but
they're
trying
to
get
a
lot
of
stuff
done
to
make
themselves
look
good
and
things
like
that.
So,
just
a
very
critical
time-
and
I
I
know
we
wanted
to
talk
about
what
recommendations
do
we
want
to
focus
on?
What
kind
of
things
do
we
really
want
to
push
for
and.
A
If
not,
I
will
just
give
a
couple
more
updates
on
like
what
is
currently
moving
that
there's
already
space
to
take
action
on,
and
then
we
can
kind
of
use
the
rest
of
this
time
to
figure
out
like
okay
strategically.
What
are
the
other
next
steps?
A
A
We
I
and
often
at
least
one
other
member
of
the
tec
either
one
of
the
co-chairs
or
a
constituent
of
that
ward
have
met
with
a
couple
of
the
council
offices
already
with
ward
one
councilmember
reich
ward,
two
councilmember,
gordon
ward,
10
council,
president
bender
ward,
4,
council,
member
cunningham,
ward,
8,
cbp,
jenkins,
ward,
11,
councilmember,
schroeder
and
ward
12,
councilmember
johnson,
either
with
them
directly
or
with
one
of
their
staff.
A
And
so
we've
learned
a
couple
other
interesting
things.
In
terms
of
like
what
it'll
take
to
move
some
of
the
recommendations
forward
and
I'm
gonna
kind
of
summarize
those
as
well,
so
we
can
pull
from
all
of
that
to
start
thinking
through
next
steps,
with
the
hopes
that
you
all
can
bring
some
sort
of
like
not
like
proposal
but
like
more
thought
through
idea
of
where
to
maybe
go
next
to
the
next
tdc
meeting.
A
So
one
thing
we
heard
was
on
the
tenant
opportunity
to
purchase
ordinance,
which
some
of
you
all
were
on
the
tec.
When
staff
came
to
present
on
it,
but
like
very
high
level
summary
for
folks
who
weren't
on
the
tec.
Yet
it
would
essentially
allow
when
a
developer
goes
to
or
when
a
landlord
property
owner
goes
to
sell
a
building
that
is
currently
being
rented
out.
A
The
tenants
would
have
the
first
right
of
first
refusal
first
opportunity
to
purchase
the
building
before
it
gets
sold
to
a
developer
and
they
maybe
lose
access
to
renting
there.
It
is
not
really
moving
forward
right
now,
because
there
is
kind
of
a
tension
between
two
ways.
It
could
be
done
one
that
would
give
the
tenants
much
more
power
than
the
other
and
not
enough
clarity
in
terms
of
which
of
those
policies.
This
city
is
trying
to
draft
and
therefore
staff
have
not
been
instructed
to
draft
it.
A
What
I
heard
from
council
member
gordon
is
that
things
that
would
be
useful
are
like
just
council
members,
hearing
community
and
patience
about
how
long
the
process
is
taking
a
kind
of
like.
Can
you
get
this
moving
forward?
Please
and
specifically,
community
voice,
saying
we
want
the
more
thorough
version
that
is
more
helpful
to
renters,
and
then
it
would
be
useful
to
get
a
read
on
the
perspectives
of
all
of
the
all
of
the
council.
A
Members
have
their
constituents
contact
them
and
see
which
version
of
the
ordinance
they're
supportive
of
because
councilmember
gordon
was
like.
I
don't
actually
know
what
the
votes
are
yet,
like
I
don't
know
who
would
vote
which
way,
yet
I
don't
know
where
that's
at
so
that
is
one
in
terms
of
next
steps
on
moving
forward.
One
of
your
recommendations
that
is
kind
of
the
concrete
piece
that
was
spelled
out
to
me.
A
There
I'm
gonna
pause
and
see
if
anyone
has
any
questions
on
that
or
like
things,
they
would
want
to
see
the
tec
do
with
that.
A
With
I
guess,
part
of
the
question
being
like
the
things
he
proposed
of
getting
tec
folks
to
council
contact
their
council
members
and
say
we're
interested.
We
recommended
this.
What's
your
vote,
is
that
something
you
want
to
bring
to
the
tec
as
a
suggestion.
C
I'm
in
favor,
I
think
this
could
be
one
of
those
things
where
we
even
come
up
with
like
a
little
script.
C
So
it's
like
nobody
even
has
to
think,
but
it's
like
you
know,
call
and
leave
a
message
saying
like
we
support
this
thanks
as
we
see
with
other
actions
too,
you
know
calling
your
local
representative
is
very
helpful
in
that
way.
So
I
think
that
could
be
something
that
we
do.
A
I've
been
trying
to
figure
out
what
we
do
and
don't
need
to
vote
on
in
sub-committee
meetings,
so
this
pause
is
partially
me
thinking,
but
I'm
wondering
if
it's
use
worth
like
proposing
that
as
an
action
to
take
forward
and
propose
to
the
tec.
I
think
that
is
technically
a
thing
that
requires
a
vote.
I
don't
have
a
ton
of
clarity
on
subcommittee
voting
transparently.
D
So
what
you're
doing
is
you're
taking
a
recommendation
from
us
to
committee
correct,
that's
what
you're
doing
you're
saying
this
is.
This
is
our
this
is
our
great
idea
and
we're
taking
it
to
committee
right.
B
A
D
Then
you're
fine,
when
you
get
over
there,
that's
when
you
need
the
vote.
Okay,.
A
D
A
A
Great,
so
that's
one
piece,
then
another
update,
I
got
so
ward
10.
Let
me
know
about
a
policy
that's
coming
for
that.
I
was
not
aware
of
called
right
to
counsel
which
ensures
that
low
income
renters,
who
are
going
into
eviction
court,
get
access
to
legal
counsel,
which
is
not
currently
the
case.
There
is
a
public
hearing
for
it.
This
thursday
and
just
the
ward
10
staffers
were
basically
just
like.
If
anyone
wants
to
testify
and
it's
available
thursday
afternoon,
public
hearing
is
going
to
start
somewhere
after
1
30.
A
It's
always
a
little
clear
where
things
unclear
where
things
will
be
in
a
council
committee
agenda
as
kenzie
knows,
from
waiting
multiple
hours
to
present
last
week,
but
if
anyone
is
available
to
testify
for
that,
that
is
just
one
direct
ask
that
they
made
it's
not
something
that
was
in
your
recommendations,
because
I
did
not
know
about
it
until
they
told
me
I
think
last
week,
but
wanted
to
flag
that
for
you
all.
A
If
you
are
interested-
and
if
you
are,
I
can
get
you
the
link
to
sign
up
to
testify
and
then
the
other
kind
of
updates.
I
have
on
things
that
are
moving
forward,
so.
A
We've
talked
about,
and
you
all
recommended
getting
the
panic
defense
ban
into
the
legislative
agenda.
I
am
in
the
policy
liaison
team
that
intergovernmental
relations
pulls
together
to
draft
their
legislative
agenda
each
year,
so
I've
presented
that
proposal.
A
What
they
said
to
me
was
essentially
the
legislative
agenda
dictates
what
the
city's
lobbyists
like
can
and
cannot
push
for,
and
so
they
were
like
do
we
need
explicit
language
calling
out
the
panic
defense
ban,
or
do
we
just
need
the
legislative
agenda
to
be
structured
like
we
are
going
to
push
for
things
that
will
benefit
trans
commute
like
things
that
explicitly
support
trans
communities
and
push
against
explicitly
transphobic
legislation,
because
apparently
the
language?
A
That's
what
the
language
has
looked
like
in
the
past,
it's
been
more
open
and
that
has
allowed
them
to
support
the
panic
defense
ban
when
it's
come
up,
and
my
response
in
the
moment
was
essentially
like
you
all
have
been
doing
this
for
years.
I
trust
you,
if
there's
any
benefit
to
spelling
it
out,
exactly
go
for
it,
if
not,
if
spelling
it
out
explicitly
or
using
the
more
open
language
still
end
up
with
us
being
involved
in
the
exact
same
way,
then
whatever
is
fine,
but
that
is
where
that's
at
I'll.
A
Keep
you
updated
on
how
that
keeps
moving
forward,
but
my
assumption
is:
it
will
be
on
the
city's
legislative
agenda
based
on
how
those
conversations
are
going
if
anyone
has
a
different
opinion
than
me
in
response
to
that
question
of
like
do,
we
need
to
spell
something
out
explicitly,
though,
would
love
to
hear
that,
because
I
can
bring
that
back
to
them.
In
that
case,.
C
I
don't
think
I
feel
the
need
to
go
that
specific
with
it
trek.
I
feel,
like
I
align
with
you
in
your
thinking
that
you
know
the
the
folks
doing
this
work
will
know
it
certainly
better
than
I
do
so.
I
I
feel
good
about
that.
A
Great,
thank
you.
Yes
same
perfect,
okay
I'll
keep
you
posted,
but
that
is
moving
forward
then,
and
that
should
be
simple,
which
is
good
and
then
one
thing
that
came
up
so
a
lot
of
the
council
offices.
I
talked
to
asked
about
like
okay,
which
are
the
little
concrete
budget
asks
in
here,
particularly
because
some
of
these
longer-term
projects,
council
members
may
not
still
be
in
office
for
either
folks
who
aren't
running
again
or
depending
on
how
elections
go,
but
the
budget
happens
before
any
of
them
leave
office
regardless.
A
Those
will
be
things
that
you
all
we
we
should
talk
through
how
to
keep
pushing
and
keep
keeping
on
their
radar
so
that
when
they
get
to
budget
markup
season
in
late
november
early
december,
they
actually
write
amendments
out
of
those
asks
and
remember
them
from
a
conversation
two
months
before
which
I
would
struggle
to
do.
If
I
was
a
council
member
with
that,
much
information
coming
my
way,
but
folks
seemed
like
generally
potentially
open
there.
A
Oh,
I
have
the
capacity
to
be
the
person
to
take
this
on
was
getting
the
city
attorney's
office
to
look
into
the
legality
of
safe
use
sites
in
minneapolis,
essentially,
sites
where
folks
can
use
drugs
in
a
supervised
location
which
reduces
the
risk
of
overdoses,
reduces
the
risk
of
just
like
needles
on
the
street
and
stuff
like
that,
and
also
makes
it
more
likely
for
people
to
be
able
to
access
shelter,
since
a
lot
of
our
shelters
are
explicitly
dry
spaces
because
it
gives
them
a
safe
place
to
use
that
is
not
a
shelter
space.
A
A
The
best
thing
I
can
see
is,
if
you
all
wanted
to
either
have
folks
do
this
individually
or
as
a
whole
tec
like
follow
up
with
some
of
the
offices
who
expressed
interest
and
be
like
great,
so
who's
gonna
introduce
a
staff
direction,
because
that
seems
like
a
thing
that
could
move.
They
were
flagging
it.
For
me,
it
was
not
something
I
was
flagging
for
them,
but
is
going
to
need
a
push
to
actually
happen.
A
Yeah
so
of
the
folks
we've
talked
to
so
far,
which
obviously
isn't
everybody.
The
people
who
called
it
out
were
I'm
triple
checking
my
notes.
So
I'm
correct
on
this
ward,
4,
council,
councilmember
cunningham.
He
very
explicitly
names
that
he
doesn't
have
capacity.
He
didn't
just
like
leave
that
open-ended,
but
he
is
interested
and
would
like
probably
support
it
in
some
way.
If
someone
else
led.
C
A
From
word
one
I
was
talking
to
ryan
the
council
member's
staffer
before
council
member
reich
was
able
to
join
and
ryan
was
like
I'm
very
interested.
I
don't
actually
know
if
my
council
member
is,
I
haven't,
asked
him,
but
I
am
so
there's
like
there's
something
there.
I
don't
know
how
much
but
there's
something
there.
Ward,
two
councilmember
gordon
yes,
so
those
three
are
the
ones
that
have
brought
it
up
directly
to
me.
So
far,.
B
C
A
A
It
could
just
look
like
folks
who
are
either
current
or
past
constituents
or
have
any
relationship
with
those
council
members.
Similarly
doing
like
an
email
or
phone
call
reach
out
to
be
like
hey,
I
knew
you
were
interested
in
this
when
tec
folks
met
with
you
about
our
recommendations,
would
you
be
down
to
write
a
staff
direction
so
kind
of
that
like
one-on-one,
it
could
look
like
the
tec
drafting
a
letter
that
you
send
specifically
to
a
couple
offices
or
something
that
in
any
way,
like
comes
signed
as
the
whole,
to
uc.
E
A
We
are
currently
talking
about
how
to
nudge
all
the
council
offices
that
are
interested
in
safe
use
sites,
but
no
one
actually
wanted
to
write
the
staff
direction
to
get
someone
to
write
the
staff
direction
as
context,
but
awesome
yeah.
I
think
sorry
you're
totally
good.
A
It
is
the
work
day
things
happen,
but
I
think
the
other
thing
it
could
look
like
if
you
wanted
to
do
more
one-on-one
outreach-
and
nobody
like
is
a
constituent
or
has
relationship
with
them-
is
to
go
through
your
networks
and
figure
out
who
you
know
who's
in
those
wards
and
push
like
folks
or
do
that
in
addition
to
one-on-one
outreach
but
kind
of
push
alike.
C
A
Post
summit,
I'm
gonna
follow
up
with
any
council
office
who
hasn't
reached
out
to
me
yet
and
see
if
they
want
to
they,
I
mean
they.
They
are
not
required
to
in
any
way-
and
I
think
some
just
won't
have
capacity
at
this
point
in
the
year,
but
we're
going
to
try
I'm
just
yeah,
I'm
gonna
do
that
follow-up
post
summit-
oh
the
other
one,
I
forgot
to
say
we
didn't
get
to
meet
with
them
this
round.
A
But
when
the
tc
last
presented
recommendations,
I
know
ward
5
was
also
interested
in
safe
use
sites,
so
they
go
on
that
list
as
well.
A
C
I
think
that
we
should
draft
a
letter,
and
that
would
be
something
that
I
could
help
write.
C
And
then,
once
we
have
this
letter,
I'm
thinking
if
slash
one
were
able
to
meet
with
council
members
like
sitting
down
and
saying
like
hey.
This
is
a
letter
like
and
I'm
hand
delivering
it
to
you,
as
opposed
to,
like
you
know,
just
emailing
out
into
the
ether
and
then
yeah,
seeing
seeing
if
somebody
is
interested
in
taking
that
on
as
a
result
yeah.
But
so
that's
what
I'm
thinking
immediately.
A
I
can
definitely
support
on
that
post
summit.
If
folks,
at
the
general
tec
meeting,
want
to
go
that
route.
A
Me
a
week
which
I
mean
we
wouldn't
decide
until
after
the
tec
meeting
anyway.
So
that's
fine
yeah
and
I
think
I
would
also
just
recommend,
like
for
those
offices
that
you've
already
met
with
who
are
interested.
If
there's
not
a
follow-up
meeting
making
sure
you
have
a
like
one-on-one,
email
or
phone
call
delivery
of
that
letter.
That
still
happens.
A
A
great
proposal
to
bring
forward
to
the
tec
the
other
update
I
wanted
to
give
so
council
member
cunningham
was
actually
both
council
members,
cunningham
and
reich,
were
really
excited
about
the
work.
The
trans
issues
work
group
has
already
been
doing
around
getting
like
trans
equity
guidelines
attached
to
our
contracts
with
shelters
and
other
social
service.
Orgs
trying
to
increase
regulation
enforce
enforce
equity
is
a
weird
phrase
and
not
the
phrase
I
was
aiming
for,
but
like
enforce
better
treatment
of
trans
residents
via
our
funding
of
those
orgs.
A
Since
that
is
the
only
regulatory
measure
we
really
have
there.
Thank
you
for
going
through
that
whirlwind
of
a
sentence
with
me.
Well,
I
tried
to
figure
out
what
I
was
saying,
and
that
is
work.
That's
already
in
progress
kind
of
in
just
a
like.
A
Figuring
out
with
the
individual
contract
managers
level,
but
we
don't
have
a
good
way
to
institutionalize
it
because
we're
not
changing
the
city's
entire
standard
contract,
because
that
also
applies
to
a
lot
of
types
of
contracts
where
the
specific
things
we've
written
up
wouldn't
be
relevant.
It
would
make
it
would
force
us
to
make
our
requirements
much
more
general
in
a
way
that
would
be
counter
productive
and
so
council
member
reich
was
very
interested
in
being
like
okay
yeah.
A
There
should
definitely
be
reporting
back
to
council
on
this
at
least
annually,
if
not
more
often,
by
the
staff
involved
on
like
how
it's
going
and
procurement,
even
if
we're
not
changing
the
overall
standard
contract
should
definitely
be
in
charge
of
like
coordinating
that
report
back
to
council
like
this
still
falls.
A
This
is
in
their
court
end,
so
he
is
interested
in
kind
of
getting
more
procurement
involvement.
B
A
And
his
office
has
already
kind
of
reached
out
to
some
staff
and
procurement
just
to
be
like
where's.
This
at
I'm
excited
soft
nudge
and
then
councilmember
cunningham
is
interested
in
introducing
a
staff
direction
that
would
essentially
just
allow
for
more
staff
to
make
this
a
bigger
part
of
their
work
plan
and
devote
more
time
to
it,
because
the
staff
direction
is
what
shapes
staff
work,
plans
to
a
big
degree,
and
it's
trying
to
figure
out
how
he
can
introduce
something,
since
he
doesn't
actually
sit
on.
A
The
most
relevant
committee
that
it
would
need
to
be
introduced
to
his
office
is
one
of
the
ones
that's
currently
down.
One
council
staff,
and
so
his
capacity
is
really
limited
and
all
the
council
members
who
are
campaigning
right
now
have
really
limited
capacity
in
general,
because
that's
essentially
two
jobs,
but
I
think
malaysia
from
ward
4
has
been
attending
most
of
the
past
few
gtac
meetings
since
she
started
at
the
city
and
is
like
supporting
on
a
lot
of
the
like
actual
policy
drafting
work
that
happens
there.
A
So
I
think
this
would
be
a
thing
that
you
all
could
kind
of
follow
up
with
her
about
to
figure
out
like
what
does
she
need
from
the
tec?
One
of
his
next
steps
in
making
this
happen
make
sure
the
idea
made
it
from
councilmember
cunningham's
brain
to
like
his
and
malaysia's
collective
to-do
list
and
yeah.
So
that
is,
that
is
the
only
next
step
that
I
clearly
saw
there
was
just
like.
A
A
Oh
and
then
actually
that's
a
lie.
There
are
one
or
two
more
things.
Council
members
flagged
for
me
that
I
forgot
council
member
schroeder
is
also
is
also
interested
in
that
same
thing
was
just
like
yeah.
I
need
to
know
more
of
what
the
next
steps
are.
Let
me
know
once
you
have
a
sense
of
what
the
next
steps
are
and
then
councilmember
schroeder
and.
A
A
None
of
us
feel
clear
on
the
next
steps,
because
the
position
in
the
mayor's
office
who
would
handle
this
is
still
vacant,
and
so
my
job
is
just
to
report
back
to
them
once
that
position
is
hired
for
and
we
are
able
to
meet
with
whoever
the
new
staff
is
and
they're
like
on-boarded
enough
that
we
can
start
to
figure
this
out
together.
But
that
is
the
other
thing
that
offices
are
interested
in
picking
up
and
we
just
need
to
figure
out
where
to
move
with.
A
I
for
things
like
the
budget
that
happen
before,
like
offices
actually
change
over
the
election,
will
tell
us
basically
how
much
like
space
people
have
to
do
unpopular
things
because
they're
not
worried
because
they
already
lost
their
re-election
bid
or
not,
but
it
will
not
change.
Who
are
the
players
involved?
So
yes,
and
not
really,.
C
Sorry
I
was
just
pulling
up
the
the
agenda
where
I
can
like
see
all
of
your
notes
track
and
I
feel
like.
C
I
mean
if
we
have
the
ball
rolling
and,
of
course,
I'm
I'm
open
to
what
everyone
else
is
thinking,
but
if
we
have
the
ball
rolling
on
a
couple
of
these
pieces,
like
the
I'm
thinking
of
like
the
safe
use
sites
and
supplier
diversity,
which
already
has
like
piqued
the
interest
of
a
couple
of
council
members,
I
think
if
we
like
help
that
along
that
seems
to
be
pretty
pretty
effective.
C
Obviously,
because
you
know
we
presented
a
whole
list
of
recommendations
and
the
fact
that
there
are
council
members
picking
out
these
few,
I
feel
like
we
should
take
those
and
run
with
them
so
yeah.
I
think.
A
That
makes
sense,
I
think
the
other
question
I
would
ask
you
all
is
for
some
of
the
budget
asks
like
the
money
for
minneapolis
employment
and
training
to
do
lgbtq,
competency,
training
for
all
of
the
like
employment
orgs
that
they
fund
the
like
position
and
regulatory
services
that
would
do
the
property
owner
training
you're,
going
to
need,
probably
realistically
to
re-push
those
in
front
of
council
over
the
course
of
november
and
very
early
december.
A
In
order
to
make
that
happen,
and
the
other
thing
and
there's
space
to
talk
this
through
next
month
too.
But
the
other
thing
to
start
brainstorming
is:
are
there
any
of
those
you
want
to
prioritize
and
or
push
for
all
of
them
and
see
which
get
picked
up
and
like?
How
do
you
want
to
push
re-push
the
budget
things
as
we
get
closer,
which
again
can
be
a
letter
to
counsel
can
be
some
reminder?
Emails
could
be.
A
Some
one-on-one
meetings
could
be
getting
folks,
either
tc
members
or
other
community
members
to
speak
at
council
public
testimony
or
if
people
are
already
planning
on
speaking
like
getting
them
to
add
that
on
to
whatever
else
they
were
going
to
speak
about,
which
can
be
pretty
effective
because
then
you
don't
have
to
convince
someone
to
speak.
You
just
have
to
ask
them
to
like
add
10
seconds
of
something,
but
I
think
that
is
the
other.
E
I
think
that's
a
good
point
about
the
budget.
I
mean
just
from
the
meeting
with
councilmember
jenkins,
like
it
was
very
clear
to
me
how
much
she
was
like
wait.
You
want
money.
E
Let
give
me
details
convince
me
on
this,
like
so,
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
push
pretty
hard
for
anything
that
requires
money
to
be
set
aside,
especially
given
all
the
different
circumstances
in
the
city
right
now
with
covid
and
everything
else,
that's
happening
so
may,
and
maybe
you
probably
know
this
a
little
bit
better
than
I
do
from
like
past
experience
track.
E
A
Great
question,
I
would
say
the
thing:
the
two
things
the
tec
has
gotten
funded
are:
first
getting
a
part-time
temporary
staff
role
for
trans
equity
and
then,
when
that
position
was
not
in
the
proposed
budget
for
the
next
year,
getting
a
full-time
ongoing
position.
So
it
wouldn't
be
a
fight
every
year
and
that
ended
up
involving
a
lot
of
like
tech
connecting
with
other
community
members
and
getting
more
people
than
just
the
tec
to
testify.
A
E
I
I
mean
that
is,
that
is
a
success
that
that
is
fantastic
but
yeah.
I
was
hoping
there
was
some
more
of
these
similar
sorts
of
one-offs
that
we
had
gotten,
but
that
makes
sense.
A
Yeah
I
mean
the
trans
equity
work
has
had
the
same
budget
since
before
the
tec
existed
at
some
point.
That
budget
changed
from
being
one
time
every
year
to
being
ongoing
and
partially
because
of
the
attention
the
tec
and
the
trans
equity
work
we're
getting.
But
that
is
not
because
that
was
actually
like
an
explicit
ask.
The
tec
made
that
just
actually
happened
on
its
own,
which
was
kind
of
wild.
So
that's
another
place
that
funding
has
happened,
but
not
like
a
tec
explicit,
win
to
measure.
E
Maybe
maybe
we
should
just
like
pick
one
thing
since
we're,
maybe
not
super
confident
or
have
a
lot
of
experience
making
these
sorts
of
things
happen.
Maybe
we
should
just
pick
the
one
that
we
care
about
the
most
and
then
keep
poking
at
people
about
it.
A
The
one
other
thing
I
will
say
that
I
forgot
to
say
is
that
the
year
that
in
the
budget,
the
tec
won
like
a
full-time
ongoing
position,
they
asked
explicitly
for
two
full-time
positions
both
because
they
were
like
this
actually
does
take
two
people
to
staff
to
the
degree
we
want
it
and
in
an
interest
of
kind
of
like
if
we
shoot
for
here
we'll
at
least
get
here.
E
A
The
budget
asks
that
I
have
identified
in
there
that
were
like
obvious
to
me:
are
the
regulatory
services
training
position
that
allows
for
the
property
owner
trainings,
increasing
the
trans
equity
budget
and
like
fully
funding
the
division
of
race
and
equity
in
general?
There
is
not
a
hard
dollar
number
attached
to
that,
because
we're
still
figuring
out
if
we're
becoming
a
department
and
what
that
department
would
hold.
A
So
there
is
no
way
to
attach
a
dollar
number
to
that
funding,
an
like
admin
role
in
ovp
that
would
give
them
the
capacity
to
then
actually
do
the
other
like
program
management
work.
They
want
to
do.
That
would
be
a
little
more
specifically
trans
targeted
that
they
don't
have
capacity
for
right
now,
because
all
their
program
managers
are
doing
admin.
A
Those
last
two
that
I
just
named
are
definitely
the
cheapest.
If
that's
helpful
info
also.
E
I
think,
given
that
we
don't
have
a
dollar
amount
and
there's
so
much
in
the
air,
about
the
division,
stuff
and
department,
whatever
I
feel
like,
it's
probably
best
that
we
don't
try
and
push
too
hard
on
that,
because
I
feel
like
the
lack
of
detail
comes
across
as
like.
Oh,
you
figure
it
out
and
come
back
to
me
sort
of
situation.
E
A
I
can
say
that
one
if
this
is
helpful,
one
thing
I've
been
emphasizing
and
meeting
with
council
members
is
the
minneapolis
employment
and
training
money,
and
the
regulatory
services
position
are
the
two
things
where,
like
the
work
has
already
started
in
some
form,
and
we
know
the
staff
in
that
office
are
trying
to
do
the
work,
and
this
like
this
chunk
of
money,
is
just
the
barrier
which
could
be
a
useful
like
talking
point
and
or
like
priority
strategy.
E
And
those
are
the
two
that
we
highlighted
with
cvp
right
yeah.
E
D
To
get
said
item
right,
so
that's
what
I
I
would
rely
on
you
to
tell
me,
which
one
is
probably
the
best
to
back.
A
A
It
feels
really
hard
to
predict
the
budget
this
year,
because
we're
still
in
like
covet
scarcity,
budget
and
also
in
the
weirdness
of
american
rescue
plan,
act
funds
and
also
in
an
election
year,
and
one
thing
actually
that
ward
10
said,
which
I
think
was
a
good
point,
was
like
right
now
in
all
the
conversations,
and
definitely
also
in
the
budget
conversation
there,
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
really
big
council
polarization
around
what
are
seen
as
like
the
biggest
conversations
which
is
going
to
be
primarily
primarily
policing
and
public
safety
is
really
going
to
is
rightly
so
in
many
ways
dominating
the
entire
conversation.
A
And
so
if
there
are
ways
that
you
all
can
both
like
make
this
a
part
of
that
conversation.
Like
oh
look,
as
you
said
in
your
recommendations,
like
here's
a
place
that
money
can
come
from
we're
giving
you
a
source
for
it
and
or
like
make
sure
that
that
conversation
does
not
drown
out.
Other
conversations
also
happening
that
there
is
a
way
to
be
like
yup.
A
We
will
tell
you
where
we
stand
on
this,
and
we
will
also
tell
you
other
things
that
are
happening
and
that
can
sometimes
be
when
all
the
council
is
expecting
to
hear
budget
feedback
about
this
year.
Is
the
police
like
that
is
really
what
they're
listening
for,
and
they
already
know
what
they're
gonna
hear
to
some
degree,
getting
even
a
couple
people
to
talk
in
an
organized
way
about
something
else,
whether
they
explicitly
connect
it?
To
that
conversation
and
say
this
is
where
the
funding
should
go
from
or
whether
they
say
also.
A
And
it
is
definitely
possible.
I
know
two
years
ago
the
tec
worked
with
a
lot
of
folks
who
were
already
planning
on
testifying
around
defunding
to
be
like,
can
you
say,
defund
and
fund
the
trans
equity
work
and
that
would
kind
of
catch
council
by
surprise
to
see
those
two
like
separate,
organizing
conversations
clearly
actually
being
in
coordination,
and
I
think
yeah
is
a
way
to
move
any
of
this
as
well.
A
A
B
C
D
Okay
kenzie,
I
love
the
sound
of
your
voice.
Talk
right
on
and
second
thing
is:
I'm
not
sure
I
can
make
october,
but
I'm
willing
to
do
november.